Isaan Region (including Udon Thani, KK, Khorat)

[QUOTE=Channy]Well so finaly you find the second window, and from 800 bath to 1000 baths it s not a big inflation. 200 baths more in 10 years. So 20 baths increase per year only.[/quote]

True, but the girls in the 1,000 baht window were really below 'doable'.

[QUOTE=Channy]Anyway no signs of street hookers in front of Roma hotel? I m wondered because roma hotel is opposite to a small soi where a small baan pouying was located. But girls mostly in their 30's. But maybe has gone?[/QUOTE]

I did see some streetwalkers near Roma but they were the same ones I had seen near the bus station. Or rather, some of the worst/oldest from the bus station. I've never seen the small house you describe, but I've never looked. Was it alone on its soi or were there several?

I returned twice to Sois and got precisely what I was looking for, so I'm in love with the place again. Price 400 plus a tip one day and 300 plus the next. I revisited soi 7 where I found the much missed house had in fact not reopened.

We also visited the Oscar and Valentine soapies, where we found a good lineup at Oscar and a so-so one at Valentine. The former had around 20 girls with slightly below par ones at the 1350 level and several very nice ones at the 1,650 and 1,850 levels. The latter had just one very pretty but jaded and exhausted looking Bangkok girl at 1,850 while the other half-dozen priced at 1,450 were all a bit too worn.

Budget for the two days:

Hotels - 350+250= 600 bahts
foodstuffs - 900
girls - 1,500
misc - 600
Total - 3,600 bahts

[quote=channy]this is only your opinion, i like buriram, it s a quiet and relaxing small town, with delicious and cheap isaan food, friendly people. and " speed disco" is not the only place to find girls. just read the archives if you don t trust me.

the only point i agree with you is: the few number of great looking girls in p4p system

but if you have been in buriram only for p4p and high hopes about quality girls and low prices i understand your desillusion.[/quote]this is a p4p forum, hence the comments, if you are promoting buriram as a quiet / relaxing place - buriram expats / trip advisor etc are for you. in comparison to the rest of thailand, completely unremarkable in the scenery and quality of the jungle / sights. it is a small relaxing town and if you read the whole post rather than the short quote, i did say the usual smile, be discreet and it isn't a problem to get girls. you have the usual rule of any bar / pool hall / karo bar etc if you are nice / smile etc but that is same all across asia.

[QUOTE=Pita123]I always figured this part of the country was to be visited with a girl you found in Bangkok. What brings you up there?[/QUOTE]I have travelled extensively over this region, as part of work, researching the temples and also the reports of violence and trouble. This province is listed as one of the parts civil war could start if the king dies. Thas etc There are concerns over the number of Cambodian men in the region.

Buriram is a small town but is the city for people in the region and is very quiet and laidback,

I have been involved in a lot of charity work with families in the region who don't have clean water and electricity Supplying water pumps, water filteration, solar power to charge batteries during the day.

This part of the country is Khymer in history, for the layman Cambodian until recently. It does have friendly expats and the people are friendly. But rural.

Imo nicer parts to visit, nothing you can't see in surin etc, however if you like quiet rural places not a bad place to live. Hence the high number of expats.

But if you are looking for a good thai wife. There are plenty here who would love a farand boyfriend but not interested in working in bars etc.

[QUOTE=Lastman]
But if you are looking for a good thai wife. There are plenty here who would love a farand boyfriend but not interested in working in bars etc.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I have a regular girl from up there. Beautiful women. Maybe if I'm ready for a wife I'll head up and go shopping.

[QUOTE=Pita123]Yeah, I have a regular girl from up there. Beautiful women. Maybe if I'm ready for a wife I'll head up and go shopping.[/QUOTE]

There's always many to be found in Big C - especially the food hall. Full of smiles for the farang and more than a few "want to try a farang"

[QUOTE=Opebo]
I recently visited the Sois in Udon, and found them thriving
[/QUOTE]

Can confirm. Went to soi 7 for the first time at Christmas. A Thai guy (whom I had just met in a karaoke bar) brought me there.
Visited 4 houses and the line-up was acceptable to good in all of them. In the 4th one I visited it was outstanding: 4 girls, all young, all doable, 2 of them were real cuties. I was quoted 300 bahts in all of them. Was surprised as I went with a Thai guy and expected him to get a commission. Maybe it's because I looked not really horny/eager as it was 3am and I had had quite a few beers.
Went with one of the real cuties. As expected her performance (no BJ, CFS) was so-so but at 300 bahts a shot still very good value especially considering her age and looks... Gave her and the Thai guy a small tip.

Directions: haven't seen any soi sign, neither could I see this soi on my map but basically if you drive on Wattananuwong Rd coming from the hospital and past Adulyadet Rd, it's the first soi on the left after the TV/radio (?) tower (a big red and white tower).

[QUOTE=Mart Cham]...Directions: haven't seen any soi sign, neither could I see this soi on my map but basically if you drive on Wattananuwong Rd coming from the hospital and past Adulyadet Rd, it's the first soi on the left after the TV/radio (?) tower (a big red and white tower).[/QUOTE]

It seems that you've visited Soi Sow Fai Deng actually, not Adulyadet Soi 7 (not exactly the same area, nor the same prices nowadays).

Other members and I wrote a few reports about this place in the past and I even attached the following map with one of them: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=122273[/url]

[QUOTE=Goyave]It seems that you've visited Soi Sow Fai Deng actually, not Adulyadet Soi 7 (not exactly the same area, nor the same prices nowadays).

Other members and I wrote a few reports about this place in the past and I even attached the following map with one of them: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=122273[/url][/QUOTE]

I stand corrected. The Thai guy called it soi jet (without telling me of which 'thanon').

[QUOTE=Mart Cham]I stand corrected. The Thai guy called it soi jet (without telling me of which 'thanon').[/QUOTE]

Adulyadet Soi 7 is also another famous location for our hobby, but have a look at the map and you will see that it's not exactly in the same area.

The red and white tower that you've noticed belongs to the CAT International Telephone Office, and the nearest brothels (from this tower) on the left side of Wattana Nuwong road (coming from the Paolo Hospital) are those of Soi Sow Fai Deng, as other members can confirm, despite what you've understood or what your Thai guide said.

I can describe all the brothels of this soi if needed. I'm a frequent visitor of these fine establishments since year 2002.

[QUOTE=Goyave]Adulyadet Soi 7 is also another famous location for our hobby, but have a look at the map and you will see that it's not exactly in the same area.

The white and red tower that you've noticed belongs to the CAT International Telephone Office, and the nearest brothels (from this tower) on the left side of Wattana Nuwong road (coming from the Paolo Hospital) are those of Soi Sow Fai Deng, as other members can confirm, despite what you've understood or what your Thai guide said.

I can describe all the brothels of this soi if needed. I'm a frequent visitor of these fine establishments since year 2002.[/QUOTE]

I can see Adulyadet soi 7 on my map, I'll give it a whirl next time I'm in town. Thanks for the clarification.

When I was finished at Soi Sow Fai Daeng I had a Leo with my newly found Thai friend and he wanted to show me another place. We rode a looong time (at least 15-20 minutes) and the guy was driving really fast, at some point I lost him and drove back to the city center. Must have been a hell of a good place if he so much wanted to go there despite the distance. Too bad...

I have to say that the scene in Udon is quite lively compared to other Isaan cities I've been to (I lived in UBon for a couple of months). I wasn't too impressed with the Farang orientated scene though, the only very few hot bargirls I've seen were already with expats/long time tourists.

[QUOTE=Mart Cham]... I wasn't too impressed with the Farang orientated scene though, the only very few hot bargirls I've seen were already with expats/long time tourists.[/QUOTE]

You're right. For me, the Farang orientated scene in Udon Thani is not really interesting (girls are usually older, less attractive and more expensive than at the Thai-orientated places).

Nong Khai might be worth a visit too after the night has fallen (fun can also be had in the afternoon, but many venues open only later in the evening). The most beautiful P4P girls I've ever seen so far in the Land of Smiles were working in a brothel on Soi Suk Pracha in Nong Khai (but you can't do the deed on premises there, it's just a pick-up joint).

Maybe your Thai friend wanted to go there. Or at a local karaoke place in the province... I know quite a few in this area, but most of them are a waste of time in my humble opinion and the girls are usually way overpriced.

There are several other brothels in Nong Khai that are very similar to those that you can find in Udon Thani, but they are less numerous and the girls are often older and less attractive.

Nong Khai. Nice little city. More than any other in the region it actually has some charm and laid back feel to it. I read about Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 and decided to check it out. I drove by probably a half dozen times at different times of day and I may have seen 1-3 decent looking girls. The vast majority is old and ugly. I also walked by but did not actually go in to take a close look. I was not impressed. This is certainly not the promised land of hot young girls from Laos.

Khon Kaen.

Bus station. I drove by slowly and saw very little action on Thursday evening. The women that were there were all crack***** lookalikes. I think there was one semi-hot one but I'm pretty sure it was a ladyboy. Maybe it is because I drove around that I wasn't approached by pimps that would show me more? IMO, avoid.

Little Soi behind Pullman Hotel. I never actually saw a sign for this Soi but prior reports say it is Song Suphanee. I just circled behind Pullman until I found it. There are 6 little brothels right next to each other. I drove by several times and eventually stopped to take a closer look at a little after 2am (probably too late.) Aside from one or two 'maybes', they were all ugly and old. I did not partake.

Violin Kareoke. I went there around 1130pm. Got a line up of about 8 girls. 2 were decent and actually not bad! One had really messed up teeth. Very bad. So I chose the other one. This was my first karaoke experience. She sang as I groped her a little and she would stop me if I went too far. There is much more groping permitted in Go-gos in my experience. This was pretty tame. I eventually asked if I can take her to my hotel. Nope! Not available, but the guy insisted he can get me another girl. At this point it is approaching 2am. I guess he calls some girls and gets no answers and I go home alone. BTW, 2 hours, I had 1 beer and 1 soda water, the girl had 4-5 lady drinks, came to just shy of 2, 000 baht. Semi-interesting for a first timer like me but definitely not worth it.

General Lessons:

In traveling various smaller cities of Thailand, I think there are two things to remember.

First, get there early. You really can not be too early if you want first pickings. This really hurts me because I'm a night owl and it also takes me a little nerve to take initiative and actually go to these places. For example, the beer bars in Chiang Mai are 85% uglies or low-average girls at 7pm. At 10pm it is 95% uglies.

Second, I am traveling by vehicle but finding places sometimes takes time, circling, and re-researching, etc. Commission be damned. I think having a tuk-tuk driver take you on a loop of places is possibly the best strategy for people who are new in a city. If you don't like selection at one place they can just hurry up to the next place and you are not wasting your time in order to save $10-15. I will start doing this from now on.

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[QUOTE=Dcpublius]... I read about Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 and decided to check it out. I drove by probably a half dozen times at different times of day and I may have seen 1-3 decent looking girls. The vast majority is old and ugly...[/QUOTE]You're right, alas. Quality (in the looks department) of the girls has gone severely downhill in this area. You might find better looking girls in the soi that is located just behind the Nong Khai Grand Hotel, and a lot better, on soi Suk Pracha (at a pick-up joint that is open only when the night has fallen). Prices are higher too (in the 500-700 baht range for a farang, depending on the place and not including the room, while it's only 300 baht at Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 or similar places on Meechai Road, room included).

Anyway, Soi Sow Fai Deng at 300 baht for a ST session, or Adunyadet Soi 2 at 400 baht (for a farang) in Udon Thani are better value (for instance) and the girls here are usually younger and more attractive than in the brothels of Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 in Nong Khai nowadays.

[QUOTE=Dcpublius]I never actually saw a sign for this Soi but prior reports say it is Song Suphanee.[/QUOTE]You probably won't find a sign like that. "Song Suphanee" means *****house.