Monterrey

Wow Porko, although Carlos and USB are my very very good friends, I can not, for the life of me, argue with what you said. <-- Period

One piece of advice, if you must address USB's long posts, you should expect a longer reply from him. I learned that the hard way. But USB is a great writer and many readers look forward to his reports. At the risk of being rude, I'd say, if you do not like his reports, add him to your ignore list. This will cut your search by 60% or 80%. You yourself obviously do read his reports.

Another point, and I am surprised Carlos did not bring it up yet, is that some visitors, get this, print out a report and take it to the club. They will look for the girl in the report and read it to her asking for the same service. Do you think I will ever declare a girl's name knowing what 'others' might do? Especially since I am, I think, the most frequent visitor to MTY and I have my circle of girls? No way my friend. The last thing I want to hear is, ok here it comes, my 'X' girl shaking her finger at me because some dude has a full report of what I did with her. No thanks. If you only knew 'X" you'd understand. She would cut my balls off. I'm sure the group who knows me, and her, will agree.

Anyways, It's refreshing to see other post here. Be it an argument or comments. This is a public board and we are all entitled to our own opinions.

I have yet to try a MP in MTY. I don't even know what they look like on the inside. If others like them, there must be something good about them.

And finally, I will confirm Carlos' comments about 'our' girls. You MUST hang out with us to understand. It is unlike any other mongering adventures you have ever seen. It is, with the full meaning of the word, SPECIAL. For some odd reason, the word ‘Harem’ comes to mind. I mean, come on, during the line up at Prestige last time I was there, all but 3 girls shouted out my name when they realized I was there. The 3 others were new.

Oh, one final-final word. I tried to grab one girl once at the Infinito during the lineup. My girls, on stage, yelled '"No, no, She is Carlos' girl". Does that give you an idea? Of course I knew that but the son of a fish, Carlos, grabbed one of my girls, followed me upstairs and switched girls with me. Grrrrrrr.

Wasted

[QUOTE=Prokofiev]

Carlos,

I thank you for your maps and info. But Ghostbuster, Nibs and many others are bothered by the same thing that I am.

Why are you guys talking in code? "The M girl at the "I" place said that the Y girl at the "M" place was at the "H" place . . . blah, blah, blah" . That is of NO use to ANYONE but your group of 3. This is what private messages are for. Same thing with " I will be there next week and . . . blah, blah". If you have a little club and want to hook up, just PM each other or send E-mails. None of this is of any help or interest to the rest of us.

Also, if you want others to post their info, you need to be respectful of what others post. If someone posts about a MP, you immediately reply that it is a waste of time, despite not having visited the place yourself. We ALL have our favorites and our own ideas as to what is good. But I would have more respect if you guys posted . . . "Went to Signore last night per your recommendation. Hooked up with Theresa for 250 pesos. Was not impressed because . . . and didn't like the room because . . ." etc. Our tastes may vary, but if you Dog my info without having visited or met the girl, you are just negating what I posted. Not cool . . .

What would be useful? How about . . . " Went to Harem last night and met my favorita, Maria. She is a tall, 22yo morena with a a big top. Very sweet girl. Nice CBJ and FS. Asks for 350 pesos but will accept 250p in the privado. Will do a salida for 900p. Treat her right." Why consider them as your personal property? Do you think that these girls are not fucking someone else 5-10 times a night? Isn't the whole idea of the ISG to help others find these girls? So many of these posts are about "your girl" or "my girl". That is the opposite of what this forum is all about. It should be about sharing info, names, locations, prices etc. A certain amount of "I am in love . . ." is to be expected and can lend a bit of humanity to these descriptions. But page after page of this stuff gets old very quickly, and speaking in code only makes things worse. And in the end, 50yo-something guys talking about cheating on their wives with teenaged Mexican hookers and being in love is best left for Jerry Springer (. . . or Carmen Salinas in Mexico!)

I don't want to be rude. I DO appreciate the info. It's just that there is SO little info lately. I'm sure you are all great guys. I have made 4 visits to Monterrey and have enjoyed myself immensely. But I have posted here very little because I am not in your club and do not share your experiences and preferences. Monterey IS a great destination. IMO the BEST in all of Mexico. But different strokes for different folks and we need to be far more inclusive if we want this forum to be of real value.

Peace out . . . -P[/QUOTE]

Me too... I give up too.
Peace and love guys...
By the way... am still waiting for GB's SPECIFIC questions to what he is looking for in Monterrey.
He started the war and then he packs up and leaves... very funny.


[QUOTE=Wastedgman]I give up .....[/QUOTE]

Not so fast Carlos. I did not know you get kickbacks. I want a refund. Or you can make it up to me next time by letting me have, what's her face, the one at the O place? She's cute.

Wasted

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Me too... I give up too.
Peace and love guys...
By the way... am still waiting for GB's SPECIFIC questions to what he is looking for in Monterrey.
He started the war and then he packs up and leaves... very funny.[/QUOTE]

mj,

this statement is really totally uncalled for, and...well, i am speechless, if that's possible :-)

"i also suspect that maybe you have a little more interest in getting the gringos to the clubs than just wanting to "protect" us stupid gringos. maybe your interest is a lot more selfish than you would like them to believe. can anyone say "kickback?"

MJ said.

"And with respect to not being a pimp and not being willing to hand out information: Then why are you a member of ISG? I'm sure when you were new here, you reaped the benefits of some helpful posts and some specific information. And now that you got what you wanted, you refuse that same courtesy to the next generation? That's just being selfish. "

Being a member of ISG has nothing to do with pimping girls. I am surprised that you, an austensibly experienced monger, would even feel the need to gleen specific information about any girl in particular. No experienced monger requires that kind of information. Furthermore, anyone that knows Monterrey also knows, especially with respect to Massage Parlor recommendations, that the landscape changes constantly with respect to specific girls. On the other hand, there are specific girls that have worked this venue for years, most of which I would not recommend. The best girls are usually newbies, girls that have no track record to recommend. That's why an over-reliance on pimped girls is usually a dead end. They are never as they are represented to be, not because the reporter was lying, but because chemistry varies.

The only information I have ever needed for any mongering venue worldwide, has been logistical in nature. NEVER have I ever felt the need to pimp-up a girl just because some other monger thought she was hot. Frankly, anyone with any reasonable degree of experience would know that every girl's performance varies, usually in direct proportion to every mongers preferences, likes, dislikes, budget, etc.

As for my willingness to provide information, I have never denied a request for information that was specific to logistics. Fact is, I have provided so much specific logistical information that nothing is usually left to the imagination. You must know this merely based upon my extensive responses and the length of my reports to realize as much.

MJ said,

"Then Proko posts a legit report and gets lambasted, basically called an idiot in an indirect way for providing the info because it doesn't gel with what you guys feel is really important"

I welcome Prok's reports. I welcome anyone's reports. But, sometimes the guys doing the reporting, seem to be reporting amateurish conclusions. This is especially obvious to we that know Monterrey well. But, even when we recognize that situation exists, I have never witnessed one instance where any poster was lambasted over what they reported. They may have been told of other options, they may have been corrected in some misconstrued conclusions, etc. But, it has always been done with proper decorum, and in a cordual and helpful manner. Our replies have always been with the member's best interest at heart, along with a desire to guide them to a more rewarding experience.

MJ said,

"The fact that there aren't any specifics EVER mentioned makes me start to think that maybe there are a lot of exaggerations going on. "

I am sorry you feel that we're lying to the forum with our reports. Obviously, if you come to Monterrey again, perhaps there are others participating in this section, others from which you will have a more secure feeling that the information you are being given is legitimate. From my perspective, there is really only a very select few from which I would feel secure in receiving any advice with respect to Monterrey, and you have conversed with all of them today. That's not a slam against any that wish to post their experiences, but I know one thing, I know Monterrey, and I also know the veracity of the individuals that know Monterrey well. I know where I will be going to get any additional information I may need about Monterrey.

MJ said,

"Like I said to USB, all the off topic, inane banter has created an atmosphere not conducive to on topic talk. "

When there is new relevant information, it's posted here for all to see, with the exception of specific information about the girls themselves. My personal policy when visiting Monterrey is to look for logistical changes to report to the board. Frankly, changes in the overall Monterrey scene are far and few between, just as they must also be on your home turf.

If you want to find information in a compartmentalized format, where you can easily determine all of what you want to know, without spending a lot of time researching it, from an area that has as large a scene as Monterrey, I doubt there is another section on this board with information that is as easy to find. Most of the sections on here with scenes as large as Monterrey are just as fragmented, with just as much banter occurring between members, with usually significantly more contention between arguing members, etc. At least with respect to the Monterrey section, all that most members need do is to ask if they are having trouble finding information about Monterrey. We could not be any more FRICKIN' accomodating!

Everyone take a chill pill. Each party seems to have some valid points. People come to these forums to be informed and I believe for some light entertainmet. (some of these post are funny and entertaining). There is no reason to flame one another if don't like someones writing style or comments.

Note, that there are very few contributers to the Monterrey forum and if it wasn't for a handful of these guys there would be very little posting here. Our Nuevo Laredo group went through some disagreements and now the forum has died down significantly. Bummer indeed.

This is form Jackson himself:

Using Ignore Lists (02-08-06)
I just finished responding to more than 100 reported posts, a task that in itself will give anyone a headache, but this particular batch struck me has having an unusually high number of complaints that essentially amounted to one member not liking another member's writing style or report content, which leads me to offer this general suggestion:

If you don't like another Forum Member's reports, then simply add them to your "Ignore List" and you'll never see their reports again.
You can access your personal "Ignore List" under your User CP. Just login, select "User CP" from the top menu bar, then select "Buddy / Ignore Lists" from the left side column.

To my long winded brothers, could you tone it down a bit, to my more critical brothers, exercise your "ignore list" if you wish that's why Jackson has it.

Just my 2cents. Peace. Mic Jagger.



Note to Carlos: We recognize your contributions and thank you for it, but don't be so sensitive. You the man in Monterrey.

MJ,

GFE sex has nothing to do with naivete. I am getting what I like. It is that simple. As for my experience mongering, I have already covered that ground. Have you mongered outside of Mexico, and do you have any other frame of reference on which to base your conclusions about what is truly available in the world? If so, lets hear it.

As for my own vulnerability, your premise that I am somehow a bumbling, naive, buffoon that could be easily setup is very sadly mistaken. You don't know me other than to read my posts, which contain a signficant amount of unquantifiable, esoteric rhetoric about GFE mongering, no more, no less. Just because I comment in posts with introspective observations, doesn't mean I am some damned fool with no common sense. Fact is, my experience makes me less likely to be the victim. I have seen it all.

As for my being "Sappy," you have no idea the numbers of guys that have commented on their enjoyment of the "Sappy" content of my posts, and the numbers of them that have also revealed to me that they seek something more, emotionally, than to screw a chica on a massage table. There is something more you know, much more...really!

As for my being in "love" with a particular chica, my ramblings are trip reports whether you like the way they are presented or not. Implying there is "Love" between me an any pro, regardless of whether I imply it or you imply it, has little to do with my reporting what I found, and the sphere of my experience, including why I prefer that type of experience to banging some third rate pro on a massage table.

The bottom line there is that if I am in fact reporting my perceptions of my specific circumstances in Monterrey, those comments ARE mongering reports, whether you appreciate the content of their messages, or whether they give you a coronary reading them. You are presently engaged in criticizing the content of reports that I regularly submit to this section. You are out of line, and your preference for one type of report versus another is at odds with many a monger that have told me just quite the opposite. I respect you right to dislike my commentary, but I do not respect your open criticizm of it as not be on topic.

There are just as many mongers out there who's only goal is to see how many chicas they can screw in a day. The girls are simply a piece of meat to them. I understand that perspective, but that kind of mongering doesn't appeal to me. There are other kinds of mongering you know. Based on your comments, I sincerely doubt that you have experienced both kinds of mongering, or perhaps you subscribe to the later version only, which is fine.

I don't criticize that preference generally, but it's become quite obvious that we are from two different camps. You like your massage girls, and I like my GFE quality club girls. You are apparently getting what you like, and I can assure you I am getting what I like in spades.

Admitedly, my posts are introspective, philosophical, and contemplative, but they have also provided significant volumes of information and pertinent mongering advice as well, at least for those that are open minded enough to gleen insight from them.

I make no apologies for the content of my posts. If you don't want to read them, and you don't like the sappy way I present my "stories," then just put me on your ignore list. If my contemplative, sappy approach offends your sensibilities, or convicts you somehow philosophically, mentally, emotionally, or internally, then put me on the ignore list.

At this juncture, I think you need to ask yourself one thing...And, I ask this same question of any that choose to present themselves they way a few of you have over the last 24 hours...

Why are you burning your bridges with the ones in Monterrey that would have formerly helped you gladly with anything? Is it worth it to read a few cum drenched, made-up, bull-shit recommendations about specific girls in the massage parlos scene, a scene that changes weekly in Monterrey?

Besides, in my so called "limited" experience, recommendations such as those are generally not consistently accurate between one monger and another. It is always a "your mileage may vary" proposition. So, what good are those kinds of reports anyway? What advantage have gained as a result of issuing your opinions in such a crass manner?

You know what, I have to tell you one thing. As for the other sections of the board, unless I am going to certain venues and need logistical information, I do not even read them for entertainment. Fact is, I do not consult the pages of ISG for necessary information. I have other sources of information where most of the posters are more experienced in the venue. I have never visited your section of the board, nor would I barge onto your turf and start criticizing your presentation of your posted material.

Realize one thing my friend...we are going to maintain our presence here in the manner we choose to do so. We are the only reliable resource in Monterrey, and I don't appreciate your sarcastic comments when I know that we have all been more than accomodating to every monger that has ever inquired about the logistics of successfully enjoying the Monterrey scene.

Most of what we have said over that last 24 hours within this forum has directly related to mongering, all be it an argument between differing philosophies about what kind of information we desire, and how we choose to present it. But it has been totally and completely on point, as is many of our posts, notwithstanding the banter that is also sprinkled within the more austensibly "relevant" material.

If you think our section of the board is a shambles, then retreat back to your little corner of the world, and impose your own brand of moderation on your own board. If you have something to contribute here, then you're free to do so, just as we encourage everyone to do so. But, stop telling us how to contribute to a forum where we are the most knowledgeable, are most reliable in our recommendations, and are the most sought after with respect to inquiries about a venue you know virtually nothing about.

[QUOTE=Mill Just]Uno, I don't need anybody's personal advice on how to monger, but others without our experience might.

And while indirectly doubting my ability, you should look at yourself. A really experienced monger wouldn't be all sappy and fall in love with a prostitute like you do. Man, you are an extortion and/or kidnapping ready to happen. Real, experienced mongers like to trade info on girls if not for personal use, at least to know and get a general feel of the area.

Now get back to that bar hooker who really loves you...;)[/QUOTE]

Wow . . . USB,
I was going to let all this die a not-so-quiet death since no amount of words or reasoning is likely to change things. But some of these last posts are SO dead-on in pointing out what people are complaining about - lack of useful info, respect for the opinions of others and . . . ego.

ISG Forum as a source of information . . .
" Fact is, I do not consult the pages of ISG for necessary information. I have other sources of information where most of the posters are more experienced"
" I am surprised that you, an austensibly experienced monger, would even feel the need to gleen specific information about any girl in particular. No experienced monger requires that kind of information"
Carlos- "Information is indeed placed here on a "need to know" basis"

You guys still don't get it. This is NOT a chat room. It is for sharing useful information. That’s what its purpose is and is EXACTLY why I use it. If you don't consult the forum for “necessary info", why are you posting here?

Respect for the ideas and posts of others . . .
" I welcome anyone's reports. But, sometimes the guys doing the reporting, seem to be reporting amateurish conclusions. This is especially obvious to WE that know Monterrey well"
Carlos -" (By the way, reporting on an MP is a total waste of time and virtual space...)"
" Is it worth it to read a few cum drenched, made-up, bull-shit recommendations about specific girls in the massage parlos scene, a scene that changes weekly in Monterrey? Besides, in my so called "limited" experience, recommendations such as those are generally not consistently accurate between one monger and another. So, what good is it anyway?"

OK. You welcome anyone’s reports, and then call it a waste of time, made-up bullshit and amateurish. What recommendation is EVER consistently accurate among mongers? Taste vary.Look, you are welcome to your personal preferences. But why dog someone else’s info, especially if you have no experience yourself? I don’t mind being challenged about something or presenting an argument to the contrary. But blatant disrespectful for the ideas of others – or writing over the top of them and negating what they took the time to post is NOT cool. If there is a factual error, please correct it. But this is a major reason there are so few posts by others.

Ego and talking down to others . . .
"Let me ask you something to you guys that just come down here for quickies and then go back to the confort of your homes.
Do you think the clubs agree to me assiting "dumb gringos"
USB - "Our replies have always been with the member's best interest at heart, along with a desire to guide them to a more rewarding experience. This is especially obvious to we that know Monterrey well"
"We are going to maintain our presence here in the manner we choose to do so. We are the only reliable resource in Monterrey"
"But, I must also point out that not all the posted blather is worthless meaningless drivel, not if the reader is sharp."
"My posts are introspective, philosophical, and contemplative. They have also provided significant volumes of information"

Guys, PLEASE get over yourselves. This is NOT all about YOU. You are the only reliable resource? You will “guide me to a more rewarding experience”? Why do you feel the need to talk down to other experienced members? We are grown men with a tremendous amount of knowledge. Knowledge and information is Power. And that is the beauty of the internet and the ISG forum – current, up to date info. Because things change rapidly and girls move on is EXACTLY why I post what I do and want the experiences of a wide range of other travelers. The shelf-life for some of this info is only 2-3 weeks, maybe several months. Fine.
I know you consider yourself Shakespeare, but PLEASE try to edit your posts. Think before you write. Focus your ideas. Think about a wider target audience. Don’t write in code. And don’t talk down to other experienced contributors. I want to make this a better resource. A more useable forum for all.
Cheers, -P

I do not, unless directly disrespected myself, or through sarcasm, ridicule anyone's reports or commentary...Never have I done that, and I defy you to produce an example of it occurring. If I have any personal opinions with respect to the quality of information posted by "SOME" otherwise well meaning members, I have always kept those opinions to myself, perhaps only occassionally offering additional helpful commentary, but always in a cordule and polite manner...EXCEPT WHEN DIRECTLY CHALLENGED WITH DISRESPECT AND SARCASM! :-)

Prok said...

"OK. You welcome anyone’s reports, and then call it a waste of time, made-up bullshit and amateurish. What recommendation is EVER consistently accurate among mongers? Taste vary.Look, you are welcome to your personal preferences. But why dog someone else’s info, especially if you have no experience yourself? I don’t mind being challenged about something or presenting an argument to the contrary. But blatant disrespectful for the ideas of others – or writing over the top of them and negating what they took the time to post is NOT cool. If there is a factual error, please correct it. But this is a major reason there are so few posts by others."

I do defend my right to post what I choose to post, just as I would stand up for your right to post what you choose to post, regardless of my personal opinions about it's validity or content. I am NOT implying that I am critical of your content or the validity of your posts. To this point, I have no quarrel with the content of your posts, I just think you guys are off base in your attempts to sensor us when you have nothing better to offer as any kind of meaningful replacement. Plus, if my posts offend you, then you have a very simple fix at your finger tips, as do all members.

In your case, Prok, if we (I) offend you, then you should eliminate us (me) by adding us (me) to your Ignore list. Again, I exhibit no blatant disrespect for anyone's opionions unless they are first aimed directly at me with disrespect and sarcasm.

Prok said...
" If you don't consult the forum for “necessary info", why are you posting here?"

I rarely consult the forum for information, Carlos never does, and WastedG rarely does...I do solicit opionions from other members relative to certain circumstances that might be occurring to me from time to time. I always enjoy those responses, and find them entertaining, even when most of the time they scold me for a perceived naivete with respect to my interactions with the girls. So what??? I accept those opionions if they are delivered void of sarcasm, and with sincerity.

In addition, I contribute to the forum with a sometimes admitedly overly prolific explanation of experiences that I've encountered in Monterrey. Whether those "reports" are appreciated by some or not, they're still trip reports. It's just that you are not satisfied with the content covered by those reports. I report on an aspect of mongering that is not typical of most postings...I realize that, but it doesn't make my postings any less valid than what is conventionally posted.

Just because I am standing up to your criticisms does not mean that I disrespect your right to post. I don't appreciate the criticism when it's delivered in a sarcastic and hateful manner, but I accept your right to post it. Frankly, I think I'm significantly more accepting of your right to post opinions I disagree with, than you are at accepting my right to post my opinions and commentary, all of which you obviously disagree with.

As a result of your comments, I have decided to adopt your suggestion, and try a little experiment, at least for a couple of weeks. You guys will be comforted in knowing that the numbers of postings will most assuredly go down, if not because of the bad taste left by your rhetoric, perhaps as a result of our wanting to test your theory that nothing is better than something.

Maybe you guys can come up with something to post her in the next few weeks when there is literally nothing posted here whatsoever. I hope that's not the case, but I suspect the Monterrey board is headed in the same direction as was described by Mic J with respect to the NL board. Only time will tell...but, I am willing to give your theory a try.

[QUOTE=Prokofiev]Wow . . . USB,
I was going to let all this die a not-so-quiet death since no amount of words or reasoning is likely to change things. But some of these last posts are SO dead-on in pointing out what people are complaining about - lack of useful info, respect for the opinions of others and . . . ego.

ISG Forum as a source of information . . .
" Fact is, I do not consult the pages of ISG for necessary information. I have other sources of information where most of the posters are more experienced"
" I am surprised that you, an austensibly experienced monger, would even feel the need to gleen specific information about any girl in particular. No experienced monger requires that kind of information"
Carlos- "Information is indeed placed here on a "need to know" basis"

You guys still don't get it. This is NOT a chat room. It is for sharing useful information. That’s what its purpose is and is EXACTLY why I use it. If you don't consult the forum for “necessary info", why are you posting here?

Respect for the ideas and posts of others . . .
" I welcome anyone's reports. But, sometimes the guys doing the reporting, seem to be reporting amateurish conclusions. This is especially obvious to WE that know Monterrey well"
Carlos -" (By the way, reporting on an MP is a total waste of time and virtual space...)"
" Is it worth it to read a few cum drenched, made-up, bull-shit recommendations about specific girls in the massage parlos scene, a scene that changes weekly in Monterrey? Besides, in my so called "limited" experience, recommendations such as those are generally not consistently accurate between one monger and another. So, what good is it anyway?"

OK. You welcome anyone’s reports, and then call it a waste of time, made-up bullshit and amateurish. What recommendation is EVER consistently accurate among mongers? Taste vary.Look, you are welcome to your personal preferences. But why dog someone else’s info, especially if you have no experience yourself? I don’t mind being challenged about something or presenting an argument to the contrary. But blatant disrespectful for the ideas of others – or writing over the top of them and negating what they took the time to post is NOT cool. If there is a factual error, please correct it. But this is a major reason there are so few posts by others.

Ego and talking down to others . . .
"Let me ask you something to you guys that just come down here for quickies and then go back to the confort of your homes.
Do you think the clubs agree to me assiting "dumb gringos"
USB - "Our replies have always been with the member's best interest at heart, along with a desire to guide them to a more rewarding experience. This is especially obvious to we that know Monterrey well"
"We are going to maintain our presence here in the manner we choose to do so. We are the only reliable resource in Monterrey"
"But, I must also point out that not all the posted blather is worthless meaningless drivel, not if the reader is sharp."
"My posts are introspective, philosophical, and contemplative. They have also provided significant volumes of information"

Guys, PLEASE get over yourselves. This is NOT all about YOU. You are the only reliable resource? You will “guide me to a more rewarding experience”? Why do you feel the need to talk down to other experienced members? We are grown men with a tremendous amount of knowledge. Knowledge and information is Power. And that is the beauty of the internet and the ISG forum – current, up to date info. Because things change rapidly and girls move on is EXACTLY why I post what I do and want the experiences of a wide range of other travelers. The shelf-life for some of this info is only 2-3 weeks, maybe several months. Fine.
I know you consider yourself Shakespeare, but PLEASE try to edit your posts. Think before you write. Focus your ideas. Think about a wider target audience. Don’t write in code. And don’t talk down to other experienced contributors. I want to make this a better resource. A more useable forum for all.
Cheers, -P[/QUOTE]

No, USb .... Come back, come back ....

ah the hell with it. Why do we even bother? You can post whatever you want and they can do the same. As a matter of fact, I have been looking forward to reading the ISG board in the last couple of days because it has finally gotten exciting. It's cool that we can carry on a mature (somewhat) conversation or an argument once in a while. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing. I am sure your world travel and encountering all these different cultures has taught you that different is not wrong, it's just .... different.

Or am I wrong?

Wasted.


[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]

As a result of your comments, I have decided to adopt your suggestion, and try a little experiment, at least for a couple of weeks. You guys will be comforted in knowing that the numbers of postings will most assuredly go down, if not because of the bad taste left by your rhetoric, perhaps as a result of our wanting to test your theory that nothing is better than something.

Maybe you guys can come up with something to post her in the next few weeks when there is literally nothing posted here whatsoever. I hope that's not the case, but I suspect the Monterrey board is headed in the same direction as was described by Mic J with respect to the NL board. Only time will tell...but, I am willing to give your theory a try.

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Mil says: Also for your information, I didn't get angered until you and carlos started talking down to us like we are newbie idiots when we say something for the betterment of the board.

Talking about betterment...
Well, I don't see you posting anything new on your all your trips to Monterrey... nothing at all. I just checked your posts and yes, you are very active in the Morelia section.
But I just don't see any trip reports from our good city of Monterrey.
Have you been here? Am I wrong or what?
If am wrong and you haven´t been here and you just don't plan in coming to Monterrey, why do you care if we post or don't post?
What is your intrest in Monterrey? business... good. Talk to me and I'll point you in the right direction: good honest lawyers, areas for businesses, who are the strongest ones et al.

About being a Newbie... yes Mil you are a newbie compared to me.
And Iam proud and love to boast that I have more experience than anyone around me at the clubs. The girls, (they are surprised to hear me talk about 3somes when they weren't even born) the managers, the owners are surprised to hear my stories of old.
I think you didn't read my post that I have been doing clubs since 1981 and up to the 2007, nonstop. That sums up 25 years going on 26.
Not even pausing for a happily marriage that has lasted 15 years last month.
You... 7 years... please. You wern't even here in back in the 80's when the *****houses ruled, when everything was done bareback even with prostitutes. You wern't a witness in the early 90's to the demiss of the *****houses when they were displaced by the strip clubs of today.
You weren't here when American girls came in the mid 90's to work at the Amnesia club cause there was more mony here than in the USA.
You weren't here when I was part of a town hall meeting and I spoke defending the rights of the girls to their jobs and the clubs.
Yes indeed, you can only dream all of what I have seen...

I know I know.. yes Mil, you are going to counter this with: "I just don't care... it is not in my intrest". Nothing is in you intrest... As a matter of fact, nothing posted in the Monterrey Thread is in your intrest, cause nothing ever posted by anyone triggered a Trip Report from you and that's the bottom line.

I'll strike a bargin with you Mil: Post a Monterrey trip report a good one, not yesterday news nor a simple visit to the MPs and I'll personaly convice everyone to move the conversations to PMs.
BUT USB postings stay, cause maybe you hate them, but there are MANY that like his reports... yes many, and they out weight you totally.

Deal?











[QUOTE=Mill Just]No reports are better than the drivel and pap written here sometimes.

And, Uno, for your information I think we pretty much enjoy the same type of mongering with plenty of GFE and what not. As a local in Morelia, I get that service quite often, but I don't feel the need to drone on and on about it. It's just not fair for 99% of the readers out there who can't get that service because they don't live here or don't visit enough to establish relationships. So, then what's the point of commenting on something that you know is atypical and out of the reach of almost everybody? The only reason would be to stroke your own ego. I don't particularly enjoy the massage girls, either, but they are a real economical option for people that don't spend your kind of obsessive time in Mexico.

Also for your information, I didn't get angered until you and carlos started talking down to us like we are newbie idiots when we say something for the betterment of the board. You are the worst type of monger- one who lords his knowledge over others and looks down on the rest. And to be honest, you have to admit that your long drwon-out posts are more about you than trying to educate anybody. Have a nice life.[/QUOTE]

To all you guys that know the Infinito MC, today Friday was kind of wild at the floor, more than at the privados as it is use too.
New girls are coming in, a couple that are really new to the scene, like Sol (in future references she'll be S2) that refuses to be groped at the stage and is really really serious girl at the privados.
Although she sticks to the 300 FS price, she seem not to be content at charging this.
Why do I mention her? Cause she is pretty, nice face and body. I hope she adapts well to the Infinito scene.
And yes there are others... dunno the names yet.
J girl (Janice, to those that just joined us, and not part of my Sacred Flock), was angry that I on the spot found out the names and how they conduct themselves in private... told her that I just adore anything with a big ass (as posted way below).
Tomorrow I'll get the names of the 3 or 4 new girls in town.
Meanwhile, at 8:30 PM they had NINE girls dancing at the 2 stages. 5 and 4. At the stage where they had the 5, there are only 4 poles, so 2 girls were fighting to gain control of one.
Total girls at the club at that time: 35 between the afternoon and night shift girls...
Great to see the Infinito up to grade after being so slow in the month of February....

So, Carlos...were there any new fat assed girls down there last night, and how is my "G" girl doing?

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]To all you guys that know the Infinito MC, today Friday was kind of wild at the floor, more than at the privados as it is use too.
New girls are coming in, a couple that are really new to the scene, like Sol (in future references she'll be S2) that refuses to be groped at the stage and is really really serious girl at the privados.
Although she sticks to the 300 FS price, she seem not to be content at charging this.
Why do I mention her? Cause she is pretty, nice face and body. I hope she adapts well to the Infinito scene.
And yes there are others... dunno the names yet.
J girl (Janice, to those that just joined us, and not part of my Sacred Flock), was angry that I on the spot found out the names and how they conduct themselves in private... told her that I just adore anything with a big ass (as posted way below).
Tomorrow I'll get the names of the 3 or 4 new girls in town.
Meanwhile, at 8:30 PM they had NINE girls dancing at the 2 stages. 5 and 4. At the stage where they had the 5, there are only 4 poles, so 2 girls were fighting to gain control of one.
Total girls at the club at that time: 35 between the afternoon and night shift girls...
Great to see the Infinito up to grade after being so slow in the month of February....[/QUOTE]

WastedG,

Are you through with your "P" girl? If I wasn't locked into "G, " she would be my next candidate. But, I "LOVE" "G" so much. She gives me everything I want, at least for a while. I am not really seriously considering a change, but the "P" girl intrigues me. Perhaps she is not interested in me, a pre-requisite to a decent GFE. If there is no spark from her perspective, I have no interest in her. Actually, I have no interest in her if you are still "attached" to her in any way. I am only interested in the event things fissel with "G" and you want to dispense with your "P" girl gracefully, so she will not be angry. But, I only mention it as a future prospectus.

I just ask the question because I thought you mentioned being somewhat bored with her. I am interested in her. I have seen a look in "P's" eyes, the look that Carlos described to me, the look of a caged hungry animal just waiting to strike. "P" has a demeanor that suggests we might get along quite well. I like her seemingly timid personality. Perhaps she is not really a timid kind of girl, but I like them timid and proper. Uh, with the caged hungry animal look in their eyes;.) I like girls who are ravenous in private, and relatively timid and proper in public. "G" is the perfect example.

Anyway, I am also thinking that I need to keep "G" on her toes at this juncture. I sense that she might start to get just a little lazy, not out of lack of interest, but more out of the same old familiarity disease that all females seemingly catch. I don't know, maybe it's me, but I sense that we are becoming like the married couple, that she is relaxing her amorosa behavior toward me because she feels totally "secure. " I love her amorosa behavior. I love her GFE abilities, I love her pursuits of me. I don't want her to be too "relaxed" that she doesn't feel the need to work to achieve my patronage anymore. Things between us have evolved beyond that plateau, and I fear she will slowly start down the path of complacency.

Carlos, please communicate to "G" for me, not letting her know that I am telling you this. She needs to make sure she keeps the fire burning or I will lose interest. Tell her you know me well, and that if she still wants me, and as long as she keeps it up, she will have me hooked for as long as she wants me.

Tell her that I am easily bored when the fire starts to fissle out. That happens in marriage and lengthy boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. The girls develop a relaxed (lazy) familiarity. They do a little less of this, a little less of that, not as much urgency in their pursuits.

Tell her that is when I start to stray. She will hopefully get the hint. Basically, this is what makes P4P so much more satisfying in many respects. The girls have direct motivations to keep the fire burning, if not motivated by their own affections, then the money starts to take over. Not so different than marriage, but certainly easier to get out of and move on, verdad?

Don't misunderstand, "G" is still dutifully there for me whenever I want her, and usually free of charge, except that I always pay her anyway, usually at the last minute, or even unexpectedly the day after, or in the privados with a large number of dances.

She has no expectation of being paid, she is totally giving when we are together. She acts just like my girlfriend. But, I have sensed that she gravitating toward being too much like my girlfriend, just a slight hint of it, nothing really serious. I usually make a donation so the "fissel" doesn't go out of what motivates her, in addition to any "legitimate" attraction she may have. But, she may need the hint to understand her role better. Also she should be told that if she keeps me happy, that I will remain faithful to her. That is not really true with respect to my visiting other clubs, but it's true with respect to visiting the "I" place. I mean "EL-INFINITO" (for all that do not have a program). :.)

For the life of me, I can't understand how these kinds of comments have nothing to do with mongering. Perhaps they are too specific, too cryptic, I don't know. I mean, I have not really referred to "Sports" here, no "Politics" here, no "Religion" here, no "Recipes" here. I have directly referred to getting into the pants of no less than two girls, the club's name, the strategy I am using. You're right guys, I don't get it.

Finally coming out and writing for the board. For any other newbies to Monterrey or Mexico, the info on the board is very accurate. Trust Carlos, I have met him and he is a good friend and nobody knows the local territory better than Carlos. I have met Wasted thru Carlos, and what a great time hanging out with these 2 pros. Wasted, not sure if you remember but you were with your other friend from work and Carlos & I came to your room at the PDA before going out. You guys will get a kick out of this, the last time I was in town (on short notice, no time to hook up with Carlos), the Infinito girls recognized me as your friends, and they kept coming up to me saying "Hey gringo, where is ___ & ___?" One dark haired girl must have asked for Wasted 5 times before she got the hint that I was not with him that night.

Sponge Bob, your posts are legendary! Never watched soap operas on TV but yours are truly great posts, on the long turbulent ordeals with Angry Girl and others. I think I have had a dance with her, Carlos told me her name once but I do not remember. Your tips have helped me out tremendously. On one of these trips I hope we can meet.

With the help of these guys, my last trip had a salida from Infinito, which turned into an overnighter without any extra costs.

Nothing new to report, just saying thanks to the other guys. I am coming back to town this week, and I have to say I am a little concerned about the increase in police shakedowns, but it appears nothing major to worry about?