Cali Reports

For you Colombian vets out there: I have mongered in Costa Rica as it has a great variety of latin women (my favorite). I love Colombians and have always thought of hitting Colombia as a destination to monger.

I would love some information as where to stay in Cali and where to monger. I am young so I would be open to go after the non-pros and the locals. My spanish is improving so I know that is a plus.

My biggest detterent is the safety issue. I have heard both sides of the argument.

Is there a person who can give me good guidelines on how to monger in Cali. I will definitely be a newbie and would love instructions on where to stay, where to go and even whether I should just stick to Costa Rica as Colombians are available there (albeit for a much higher price) Also is there a guide or service that is in Cali who can guide me for a fee. I would love some price info as well as the cost of hotels, taxis, girls, clubs.- thank you in Advance.

Maverick207

StudPlayer - Where are you staying? Can you describe the accomodations and tell us what you are paying? What side of Cali had the explosions and gun battle? El Pais said nothing about it today.

Man - How do I get in contact with the American who has the place to stay? What is it like? Is it totally chica friendly?

Here is the link:
http://www.calihotel.com/

16 November 2003 Cali, Colombia

El Colorado, obviously you did not understand that the parts about bombings and a running gun battle were complete jokes. Believe what you want in the fear-mongering government-controlled international media but this place seems no more dangerous and no safer than any city anywhere in the world. At times, if you did not know better, you would think you were in Cannes or Beverly Hills. At other times, you could be in any inner-city burnt-out slum anywhere in the world. Just use some sense and you will be fine.

Avenida 2N Scene - good, definitely some talent available but you need to shop around. Not a bad neighborhood but on the fringe of the good neighborhood so be careful there. The Doctor of Love place is undergoing remodeling but there are other places in this neighborhood.

A comparison of Unicentro and Chipechapa - Chipe has tons of security guards while Uni considerably less. Chipe is close to the Hotel Intercontinental, Uni is far. Women are more abundant at Chipe. There is a casino at Uni. So you can see for me it is a tough choice! (El Colorado, this is another joke in case you miss it.)

This is one of those 3 day weekends so the town is a little empty of nenas (I hope this is the case) but it is still real easy to have fun.

Hey Studplayer. I have heard varying reports about the Casas. One guy said he'd been to 40 casas and could only find 2 women he found attractive. He said that he'd been to 29 countries and Cali was worst city he'd ever been in for P4P. That sounds rather unbelievable considering the reports to the contrary.

Anyways.... I have a personal interest in this as I'm going there in about 13 days!

Poobah, in my experience, the casas are hit and miss. I have been to casas where I politely excused myself as there were no attractive women there and other times I have been to casas (especially the Avenida 2N casas) where there are 2 or 3 attractive women working.

In truth however you need not even go to a casa. The Calenas are very happy to meet and speak with men and especially a gringo. Don´t expect instant service though from a non-pro like you might elsewhere.

My opinions of course are based on only a few days of experience. I am just starting to get the hang of this place. Give me more time here and perhaps I will modify my ideas on this. All in all though Cali seems to be a great town and like I said in another post, here it is safe to hail a cab on the street.

If any Cali locals are around and want to show me around a little, the drink tabs are on me. Just private message me here on this board.

Sunday night report

Went and got a fox of a street walker to gain entrance to the swing club which is Spartacus the rest of the time except Sunday nights. What a mistake that was. Entrance was 50,000 pesos, about US$19 and of course this fox of a streetwalker started talking about getting paid before the end of the night and just generally acted badly. After cautioning her I would pay her afterwards and if she kept it up we would leave, we left. I took her to my hotel for a perfectly satisfactory session including photos afterwards. Expect photos soon as I have yet to enter the digital camera age. I do not recommend going to this swing club. There were 7 other couples there, all middle aged and the facility was hot and humid inside without beds. At 10 oclock in the evening everyone was just sitting around with their spouse/date and not interacting with others.

The scene around Mysti-K is really young and there is another club around the corner called the Podium and that is the club that was hopping tonight. If you happen to be a middle aged guy like myself however, forget trying to connect with any of these younger non-pros, it just doesn't work.

Cali is generally a pretty laid back place. I went to Tienda Vieja earlier in the evening but was refused admission because I was wearing shorts. No big as discos are really not my thing. Afterwards, I took a long long walk around the neighborhood and it seemed perfectly safe to me.

As far as grabbing a cab is concerned, only use a radio taxi. You can identify them by the radio antenna on the trunk. There are 3 different companies with these phone numbers : 3333333 ; 4444444; and 5555555. Other taxis may or may not give you the run around as happened to me this evening - no big, I told the driver to stop, paid him the US$1 fare and got out and got in one of the radio taxis. A cheap bad experience easily solved.

There is a casino at Unicentro in which 21 is played with the dealer receiving 2 cards before the players act. I prefer this over blackjack here where the dealer receives his second card after all the players have acted. A blackjack is paid immediately even if the dealer also has a blackjack which is a real advantage. There are no 10's in the deck although there are face cards.

There is a beer here called Poker. Guess what brand I drink. Quite fitting I think.

That´s all for now. More tomorrow.

Prices here are absolutely dirt cheap. I just went shopping at a major grocery store here, called Ley (how appropriate) and this is what is was able to buy for US$11 : 2 cans of coke, 3 packs of marlboro, 75 meters of johnson and johnson dental floss, a large package of oreos, a meter tape (a professional measuring tape, remember I plan on buying a place and it is somewhat important to know how big a place is), a liter of premium orange juice and 2 cans of Heineken.

This is one of those famous 3 day weekends so while the town is quiet I still have been able to have fun.

I agree about casas - very hit and miss. In fact, much more miss... but certainly you can find gems. Cali is so great for the non-pros, that I was always ok with the casas only being so-so or hit/miss.

On the other hand, 20 minute casa program is like us$10 - so why not just negotiate a BBBJ/TC CIM with no FS for that us$10? I mean, if you look at it that way, the casas work for you much better... a nice start to an evening searching for non-pros at the clubs... or before hitting the malls at about 5p for non-pros there...

Hey all,

Just come back from Cali. Good place, no safety problem (even when i get back at midnight).

A good place where there are show with girls : la FRESCA ROSA (ask a taxi) it will open at 9 pm but the better time is 10h30 pm.

If you want to meet girls a good link: http://www.allcolombiangirls.com/gallery.php.

Else my friend who live there will open shortly a streap tease casa. I'll give you the adress after.

How can a man grow 20 years younger in one night?

Do what I did last night. There are some hot streetwalkers along Avenida Sexta starting around 9 in the evening. Got a sweet young thang early in the evening and just the memory of that sweet young ass getting in the elevator at the hotel is enough to get me hot again. Total cost about US$15, although you can do it for as little as US$11 but good service demands fair compensation. Later in the evening, returned to Avenida Sexta, another sweet young thang, nice long massage (negotiated before-hand) and another sweet (or is it sweat?) time. So there you have it, here is the formula for growing 20 years younger in one night.

Just got finished having a great sushi lunch with Antifreeze and his sweet wife at Chipechape. We are planning on hitting a couple of casas tomorrow afternoon - but not with his wife.

Report to follow.

Cali rocks!

21 November 2003 Cali, Colombia

Yesterday I did a little casa hopping. There are some hot hot hot casas in the south part of the city.

I ended up at the Doctor of Love with Wendy - I think that was her name. One hour, 34,000 pesos or US$13, more or less. Due the high quality of service, I left a generous 10,000 peso tip (about US$3.50) stating I intended to be generous due to the high quality of her service. From what I could gather, a 5000 peso tip is about normal.

While Wendy´s service was top notch, I realized I got "gringoed" on the room which was room number 5 (to be avoided). It was noisy, the Coke guy came and you could hear him throwing Coke bottles around, everyone talking out in the hall, etc. I don´t know about everyone else but I like peace and quiet, a rare commodity in this increasingly crowded world. To make a long story short, after the excellent session I asked for and spoke with the "jeffe" and told him, in Spanish, exactly what had happened, that I did not appreciate the noise and please not to "gringo" me again. I think he was surprised by my Castillian Spanish.

Hit the Unicentro casino in the evening, a beautiful young calena estudiante sat down next to me, and even though she was with an amigo, we just had the nicest time together. She is planning on meeting me there again tonight, sin amigo - that is, if I can make it. You get the picture - a beautiful young calena wants to meet me at the casino and I am not sure I can make it! Adios Estados Unidos!

(Yes Jackson, I know this is an English only board but a little Spanish here and there for emphasis is ok, isn´t it?)

This morning my laundry was delivered by a laundry service I had pick up my clothes yesterday. Pants pressed and on a nice plastic hanger, 3 shirts pressed and on nice plastic hangers, a week´s worth of underwear and socks - total price 9000 pesos or about US$3, including pick-up and delivery service.

I know, it´s a tough life but somebody has to live it.

I have a couple of things that will probably not be well received, but here goes. First, Colombia IS a dangerous place. I know many Colombians in Miami who are afraid to visit right now. If you look gringo, your risks are much higher. A friend of mine recently got married in Cali and when he was at the Inter-Continental casino with his future wife, a group of men started harassing him and when he confronted them, one guy showed him a gun right in the casino. The casino security was no help at all. My friend had the impression that these were big narco trafficing guys that were close with the casino owners. My friend left soon after and he noticed one of the men following him out. He literally spent the next 2 weeks waiting for the wedding locked in his hotel room due to his fear. A bit of an over-reaction, but it shows you what can happen. The reason it's worse now than before is the US government is making life extremely difficult for the narco guys.

Second, I know everyone who gives a good tip means well and I'm glad to see people treating the women well, but keep in mind the other side of tipping well. When you give them a good tip, they feel they've been charging too little. So the prices come up. The tips keep coming, and the prices keep rising. After several iterations, we'll be approaching US prices in Colombia. This may seem silly, but it's true. If you talk to the old-timers, they'll tell you it's happened at great sex destinations all over the world.

The deals we make with these women are completely negotiable. To the girl, is sex worth $10, $100, or $200? The answer is it's worth whatever the previous guy was willing to pay.

There are others ways of tipping the girls. You can treat them with respect and kindness, pay attention to their sexual needs, or even take them out for a drink or dinner. None of these will raise the prices and the girls will probably appreciate these things more.

kdog,

Excellent post. I agree that you need to come to Colombia with your brain and your balls (not your brain in your balls). Sometimes you need one, sometimes you need the other. There are plenty of great things happening here, but also some pretty serious stuff. As an example, often during weekends (Friday and Saturday nights), drunks are driving while shooting in the air on my street (a little scary provided that I live on the 9th floor). This is the type of thing that one could imagine that police could fix, but police work is useless in here. Policemen are rich of a situation that provides them with the opportunity to bribe normal people for money, not much more.

El Colorado,

I am happy to meet with anyone that respects minimal decency standards (no hard drugs, not chasing 12 years old kids). If you fit those standards, send me your e-mail address, I'll get in touch with you. If not, do not botter getting in touch with me, we are not made to connect. My experience though is that a lot of people coming to Colombia do not meet those minimal standards and I do not have much respect for that (they just come to Colombia to do the shit they rightfully can't do in the US or else). Consequently, after many encounters with such people, I figured that the statistic was not good in regards to meeting gringos in Colombia. Chasing women is one thing that I can relate to, but they still need to be respected. Those women went through Hell most of the time, and truly could use a break. Colombian men do not treat them well, and they are truly jewels that call for respect. I've met many women that are marriage material even in casas. They just got there by a series of misfortune of life, and are decent people struggling for their lives and often even their family.

Good post Antifreeze.

I too have met some great guys on my trips and some real losers. Personally while I think many men do not fit the stereotypical 'sex tourist' some seem like the definition was written for them. I get a little cautious b/c some seem completely socially inept, have the chick's tits out in a nanosecond, asking in their horribly fractured Spanglish if they can bone her without a condom and then complaining they didn't get the GFE!!

The reason I go to foreign countries is to meet people (with an emphasis on women). I try to learn the language (at least enough to get by) b/c what is fun for me is the adventure, the chance to talk/laugh/joke with a cute chica and enjoy myself. While I've engaged in the 'point and click' shag, I usually find that less interesting. Esp. as I get older.

Anyways, I am going to be there in about 10 days. Can't wait. See you then.

The Poo