Caracas

Hmmm...while I have been going to Colombia for years and love Cartagena as much as anyone, I have never seen a "10" working in LDV. Obviously, this is a subjective call, but I would say that the VAST majorty of LDV mujeres range from pudgy, older women a few years past their prime (I'd rate them about a "4") all the way to young (18-23), new, and lindas chicas who I'd rate in the "8" range. Sometimes, you'll find a couple of 8.5's.

But I certainly wouldn't go to LDV to find the mystical "10" - for if she is truly a "10" (which, IMHO, means flawless), she'll last about 5 minutes in Cartagena before some foreign tourist grabs her or she becomes some narco's novia. The main advantages of LDV chicas are their awesome attitudes and consistent GFE's IF you're a half-way decent guy. Me extrano Colombia y Venezuela muchismo!!

As far as a non-pro pick up bars in Caracas which are more "down market", I would recommend "Alcatraz" Discoteca in Las Mercedes. The girls there are usually middle to lower class and are very approachable. I've had great luck there especially on Monday nights which is ladie's night. By the way, this is Catire's discoteca favorita. :-)

Zippy

I agree with you. I didn't see a 10 in LDV.

It has been my experience that upscale Massage parlors are better to come across the better looking girls. And the girls know how to do what they do better.

I would say that I only saw two tens, maybe three in Bogota. One is the girlfriend of a succesful race car driver [Or, maybe I transferred my fascination with race cars to her.] The other was a Sofia Vergara look-alike [See Rob Hay, "look-alike" ;>)] in a massage parlor. It's insane, I can still go throught the experience frame by frame. Yeah, that what a ten implies.


Ferolga

Thanks for your response. CTG does look tempting. It sounds like nothing in the world compares to the Brasilieras - but I do like to travel, and mongering in different countries is a good objective, I think.

I guess Brazil and Argentina are "easier" and hence my enquiry "is it that good to make the trip to CTG or CCS ?". If I am passing through that's fine, but is it worth targetting CTG or CCS as a destination for getting good looking girls into my bed.

In other words, taking into account the "danger" in both these places (and the touts in CTG) and the additional hassle of getting there, I wonder if the attraction should be because the girls are the best or just because they are different.

BTW, shadow - your mail is full and I could not send you a PM.

Cheers.

Guys,
Actually upon reflection, I would agree with most of your sentiments. I guess I've never seen a "10" in LDV, if you are comparing to maybe a Playboy bunny or Miss Colombia finalist.
Having said that, I have seen the 8's and 8.5's in good supply every time I've been there. (Ok, this is like maybe 8 nights total, so maybe I was lucky.) But I do want to say this is a strict scale, I'm a picky guy when it comes to women and what I'll pay for.
I guess I was just enthusiastic about CTG, I think it's a pretty good place to monger, especially if you're interested in non-pros. The caliber of chica you'll see just walking down the street will keep your head on a swivel your entire trip. The working girls will do their best to make you fall in love, and they're good at it.The touts are annoying, but if you stay away from the beach you'll avoid 90% of them. The cost of everything else is dirt cheap, your money goes a long way there.
The danger in CTG is minimal, no more than any other big city. I could be wrong, but I would rate CCS as much more dangerous from the tales I've heard. I know no one who has been mugged or robbed in CTG, can't say the same for Caracas.
I'll be in CCS the night of the 7th, then on to Puerto La Cruz for 6 days. Hope to have a good report when I get back. I'll be happy if I can find the same quality of chicas in PLC as is in CTG :-)

P.S. I was unaware my PM box was full, I deleted a few to make room for any incoming PM's...

Forget CTG unless your into annoying touts. OK, Tony is riot to hang out with just as long as you keep him in check, but after saying no the 10th tout on the beach it gets a bit annoying.

And then they wait outside bars, cafes, rest. for you.

Unless you don't mind the constant harassment go to Barranquilla! Its one of my favorite spots all time I went there 3 times in 6 months. I can't talk this place up enough.

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Forum,
Can anyone make a recommendation for hotel in Caracas for my one night there? Chica friendly, safety are priorities, also wouldn't mind inexpensive...
Thanks in advance :-)

Good recommendations are the Embassy Suite hotel in Caracas, girl friendly and not too expensive, the Marriott, more expensive and lastly, the Eurobuilding and/or the Tamanaco. Avoid the Hilton at all costs as it is in a very unsafe part of town. The Melia is in a "red light zone" which has its ups and downs, but, IMHO, is not a comparable choice to the other hotels mentioned. "Inexpensive" hotels for your consideration may be 1) Best Western, 2) Paseo las Mercedes, 3) Continental Altamira, 4) Hotel Tampa and 5) Hotel Presidente. I rate these in order of safety and being in a relatively "decent" part of town. I have been robbed in various trips and, believe me, no saving in hotel rate can compensate for the hassle of losing documents and risking your personal safety during an international trip.

Good luck and happy mongering.

Be safe,

Be There

Shadow,

I think you will probably be disappointed with Puerto La Cruz. I have a very good friend who lives there and the P4P opportunities are limited to a few strip bars and a couple of clubs (some in shaddy areas). The scene is better in Caracas (and the P4P scene is Caracas is poor compared to Colombia and old Cuba).

However, PLC (much like many small Venezuelan towns) is a decent place to find a non-pro novias. So hang out at the malls, in the casinos and in the discos and you might just find your own personal Ms. Venezuela...

Zippy,
You're not pumping me up too much 4 days before I leave :-)
I will check out the casinos and clubs for sure, always looking for a non-pro before p4p anyway. Maybe I'll get lucky?
Should have some kind of report for you guys in a couple weeks.
Colombia is hard to top in my book also, but my last 2 trips have been there and my next trip this fall will also be there so wanted to explore a little and do some scuba diving etc.
Still not sure where to stay for my one night in Caracas, will keep reviewing the old posts here but would be nice for a recommendation from one of the Caracas veterans...

obviously you're not reviewing it all that well/thoroughly, since a guy talked about staying at the was it Hotel Cumberland right across the street from one of the American bars (Doral?) at an Internet rate of 60 bucks a nite? The area can be "slightly" dodgy at night, but there's an areperia just below a half a block at the intersection with Francisco Solano that is always full of cabbies, cops. etc

Catire,
You're right. My bad. Tried to take the easy way out, and ask someone to waste a few minutes typing a post, when I could have just spent a couple hours reviewing all 22 pages of this forum. If "a guy" says Hotel Cumberland works for him, then it's the place for me. Just misunderstood what this forum was for. But I got it now, thanks.

Shadow,

Didn't mean to bum you out before your trip! The PLC area has a couple of decent beaches so it's not all bad. And you very well could get lucky by discovering a decent P4P place. Good luck!

Thanks Zippy, will report back in a couple weeks, hopefully with a positive report :-)

What about the Tamanaco Intercont?

Is that chica friendly and a safe area?

Where to go and stay to find young women in Caracas?

Thanks