Panama City

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1203680]Kman.

Thanks and I agree, however I like the GFE and try not to be Hard Core and tough. Even when I know I am takin advantage of by these girls.

Panama has such a great set up with all the Indepents and Independent bars but I have basically chosen another country to monger in where these type of rip offs don't happen. Along with all the Imigration raids which if you visit during the wrong week can ruin your vacation. There are exceptions in Panama and sometimes you meet the right Chica and its a great time but few and far between now.

Every now and then a friend wants to go back to Panama and I go with but, since Panama has become so wam bam thank you maam and professional I am avoiding it as a Monger destination. I am just not into the BS anymore.[/QUOTE]I'm with you, Mfins. Have been to PC 5-6 times in the past three years. Girl numbers and quality are down with each visit. Grant it, you can get a decent girl out of most places for $80, but they're all clock watchers. I too have moved on and taken PC off my list of hobby destinations.

I will be back there this weekend and will report how it is. My buddy hasnt been in over two years so who am I to say no.

Also one of my regulars is back from Colombia. She was there 5 or 6 years ago and was one of the fun, happy go lucky, non pro, non clock watchers. It will be good to see her.

I hope for my friends sake we have good luck but, I have pre warned him this isn't the same Panama!

I do have to say the Hotel service and food have gotten marginally better over the years. Although the price has also increased.

Anyone want to please chime in on where your finding $80-$100 prices out of Veneto, Habanas, A Che. I have always understood the price to be $150. 00 for multiple hours.

[QUOTE=Wambo89;1204616]I'm looking for colombian girls in the afternoon very good looking were can I find?[/QUOTE]Boca Torena there no finer place in Pamana and the price is right.

I did a extended in PTY Colombus Day weekend. I was primarily involved in non-hobby activities because I'm considering PTY is a potential relocation option. As far a chica action, I still that the city has some very good, but put more costly options. I'm a Colombia and DR regular so obviously the price structure is different, but I have found that with good Spanish and a little game you can get a GFE / PSE experience at a price still lower than US or Euro costs. After landing and checking into my apartment rental me and my buddy headed out to the Veneto just to check out the action on Friday night. It was early and pretty slow, but the colombianas were in full force. A chatted with a few, but I figured I could get the same chicas at a lower price if I waited few hours. All the visual stimulation had us riled up so we walked down the block to check out Oasis. No luck they were closed. I also noticed that Moulin Rouge and the other SC in the strip center had police crime tape across their doors. I figured they were recently hit for a failure to pay appropriate bribe. No problem. We just walked around the block and caught a cab up to Golden Times. Well as far as the cabbie knew we were going to the Fantastico Casino. LOL. GT had a pretty good line up for 12AM. Their were at least 15 chicas working. As always, all colombianitas. I picked a chaparrita with a nice trasero from Pereira and my buddy took a caleña. Being Colombia veterans we got an excellent vibe from them since we knew so much about Colombia. I've always had luck with the chicas from Pereira and I usually end up picking them for some reason. Eventually, I need to actually visit the city. I had an excellent GFE session (BBBJ) with her that went way over the hour, but the senora really didn't bother us because me and my buddy were the only 2 customers in the place. We paid the standard $87 rate.

We went back to the Veneto and my buddy hit the poker room while I sucked down some Abuelo rum at the bar and danced some salsa and couple of merengues with two waitresses that were off duty and just hanging out. I made sure to the tell them how offended I was by all the Colombiana putas and that I was looking for a good panameña for a serious relationship. They both busted out laughing. Clearly, I have no credibility. The girls left and my buddy came back from poker. We grabbed some late night food from the bar and had a few more drinks. By this time it's 4:30AM and I'm beat and slightly drunk and we get approached by this fine chocolate panameña. She starts giving my buddy the hard sale, but she nice and friendly. She tells him cien and he immediately says sí. Like he always does. She tells me she'll get her friend for me. I tell her no thanks I'm tired and going to bed. She pretends to get all sad saying that it's a shame that morenos (like me) don't like morenas and negras. I told her I love dark women as long as they speak Spanish or Portuguese. I tried to reinforce that I really am beat and need to sleep, but I quickly change my mind when I see her amigas delicious ass.

So away we go to our apartment building. In quickly realized that I had made a mistake in the cab because the amiga is a total perra with an awful attitude. I figured that I'll go ahead and take one for the team since by buddy was really into the other girl. I figured since we have separate apartments, I can just kick her out w / cab fare only if the bad attitude continues. We the attitude continued and she tried to pull an upsale on me. I told her she could leave now or change her attitude quickly. I explained exactly what I expected if she stayed and if she couldn't or wouldn't perform for $100, she could go. We strip and shower together and that little bit of foreplay improved the mood. She gave me a lame BBBJ which certainly didn't help me in my exhausted, drunken state. I went down on her and she gave me the fake moan routine. This is something that I have zero tolerance for. If I lick she MUST cum! So I decided to pull out all my tricks including the g-spot stimulation. I made her squirt. She damn near suffocated me with jugo de chocha and clamped down my neck with her thighs when I tried to come up for air. She layed there shivering and curled up like she was going to sleep. Not a chance that was going to happen. She pissed me off now I'm going to take it out her. I pounded that chica in every conceivable position for the next 1 1/2 hours before I blew. The sheets were drenched with jugo de chocha and sweat, the covers were all on the floor, and the mattress was half way off the bed. She was passed out with a smile on her face and I laid there too tired to sleep and too damn tired to even take the condom off. I was comatose, but highly satisfied that I salvaged a session that was quickly going south. I tell guys all the time. All it takes is asserting some dominance with a latina chic to get her to do what you want. That applies to good girls and hardened putas all the same. When she woke up and left she joked that she was mad at me because she was going to be too sore and tired to get another client Saturday night. I told her "la culpa tuya. Por no te comportabas bien conmigo". She left me her number and being a true caballero and walked her downstairs and got her a cab.

I did no hobby activity on Saturday and I went and repeated with Pereira chica from GT on Sunday. Excellent time again. I was 3 for 3 on this trip. I know alot of guys have written of PTY, as a hobby destination, but a great time can be had if you've got some Spanish skill and some game.

Great report Oscuro! I had a blast in PC in April. Looking forward to getting back!

[QUOTE=Caballero Oscuro;1207540]I told her she could leave now or change her attitude quickly. I explained exactly what I expected if she stayed and if she couldn't or wouldn't perform for $100, she could go.[/QUOTE]Hat off to you brotha.

Went with an open mind as I was with my buddy who can have fun anywhere any time. I will make a long story short if I can. Veneto had plenty of girls. Seems as though Immigration made there statement a couple months ago and has backed off. I did not see anything over a 6 or 7 out of the 75 girls at Veneto both Fri and Sat night.

Went to La Palace just to look. No cover $9. 50 each per beer. Hot girls same $300 for 45 min. We passed.

A che seemed a little slow. Had about 20 girls or so on each Fri and Sat night.

We spent most of our time at Habanos. The most talent was there. About 50-75 girls. Mostly 6's but there were a couple of 8's and some 9's. The problem is that Panama has changed as I have said before. It is all about money and time. As in more money and less time. Every transaction seems to require a business negotiation and then a contract signing. Every name a girl gives you is a Stage name. It gets tiring. They must all go to the same school now that teaches them the art of Negotioations. It is so impersonal. A little bargaining okay but not to the level it is now. It is almost Vegas like.

The other issue is that the 8's and 9's that come in to the place are there five minutes get picked up by the business man on vacation go to there respected hotel come back 30-45 minutes later. Five minutes after that repeat. We litteraly saw one girl leave with 4 different guys in a 2 hourish period and come back. Those girls are getting run through.

Sure the 6's are plentifull and willing. $100 multiple hours but you get what you pay for.

I tried negotiating with a 9 and she wouldn't budge off $350 for two hours. COME ON. One 9 I was talking to just up and left me after 2 minutes. I am not ugly, overweight old or cheap.

My buddy found a Peruvian working there actually she found him a Solid 7 but her personallity was awesome and so were the evening activities from what he told me. SO yes there are diamonds in the rough. They can be found but you have to wade through 50 other girls bullsh* to find one good one. Therer are other and better mongering spots. I stuck with a girl I knew from years before (the gold old days) She had aged but still fun and nice.

On a side note, when we were gambling at the Black Jack tables I must have had a 15 people come up to me at different times asking for a $5 chip. They would stalk me, see me win a hand and figure that was the time to jump in and try to beg as I would be most willing to give. Even our regular cab driver demanded $100 for dropping us at 2 places. Ridiculous. His last client who he drove around for a couple hours gave him a $100 so now he figures thats the going rate. Look Panama can be fun, there are certainly a lot of girls in a concentrated area but I will not be going back anytime soon. (this time I mean it) There are just better places out there now adays. R. I. P Panama.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1207861]There are just better places out there now adays. R. I. P Panama.[/QUOTE]I have not been back to Panama City since last January. From what I read about it recently, I will only do a overnight layover and then onto a 3-city tour in Colombia. Much better value for your money especially for those on a budget. Thank you for the report.

EZ

Seems as though Immigration made there statement a couple months ago and has backed off.

Great to hear, looks like things are back to normal at veneto / habanos. There wasnt that many women there when I went back in last sept. Anyone else recently came back from Veneto / Panama? Does anyone know when carnivale will be next year. Planning on going then.

[QUOTE=Snipps; 1208161]Seems as though Immigration made there statement a couple months ago and has backed off.

Great to hear, looks like things are back to normal at veneto / habanos. There wasnt that many women there when I went back in last sept. Anyone else recently came back from Veneto / Panama? Does anyone know when carnivale will be next year. Planning on going then.[/QUOTE]Snipes, Be carefull going during Carnival. Most people flee the city and go to the small towns to drink and celebrate all week. In fact I believe they stop selling alcohol for a 3 day stretch during Carnival. Most if not all of the CLubs and Casinos close. Carnival is fun but not really for Mongering. Same with Easter and Christmas and also Día de los Muertos.

If your dead set on taking a trip and you like the Colombian Chicas (who doesn't) just go to Colombia. There are not any Independent type clubs ie (Habanos-Veneto-A Che) like in Panama but there are plenty of cool spots and I have pulled a free lancer out of a casino in Medellin once.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1208219]Snipes, Be carefull going during Carnival. Most people flee the city and go to the small towns to drink and celebrate all week. In fact I believe they stop selling alcohol for a 3 day stretch during Carnival. Most if not all of the CLubs and Casinos close. Carnival is fun but not really for Mongering. Same with Easter and Christmas and also Día de los Muertos.

If your dead set on taking a trip and you like the Colombian Chicas (who doesn't) just go to Colombia. There are not any Independent type clubs ie (Habanos-Veneto-A Che) like in Panama but there are plenty of cool spots and I have pulled a free lancer out of a casino in Medellin once.[/QUOTE]Thanks, just spoke with a long time friend and he said he just got back from Peru. We were talking about it not that long ago. He said Lima is absolutely beautiful, Clean and safe. He also said there are a lot more spots than Panama (I assume massage parlars) but again not the same set up as veneto. He said flight was expensive but as far as price goes for mongering its about the same as Panama.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1208234]Thanks, just spoke with a long time friend and he said he just got back from Peru. We were talking about it not that long ago. He said Lima is absolutely beautiful, Clean and safe. He also said there are a lot more spots than Panama (I assume massage parlars) but again not the same set up as veneto. He said flight was expensive but as far as price goes for mongering its about the same as Panama.[/QUOTE]Lima is cool. Tequila Rocks is like a Habanos type place. ITs a Huge city so there are a lot of places to go. A lot of freelancers like Panama except Lima has better food, friendly people and better service. The price in Lima is a little cheaper too. Its a good place fairly touristy but, cool.

Hello All. I was wondering if anyone knew of any good dating websites for Panama?

I did a Google search and didn't come up with anything too interesting. Latinamericancupid. Com seemed like a well constructed site, but I did not want to waste my time before getting some expert advice. My goal is to find a nice girlfriend down there, maybe get an apartment and a car or something. I'm not looking for Pros. There's nothing wrong with Pros, but I'm looking for more than just sex. Oh, BTW my Spanish is almost non-existent, I'm starting to work on it, but it will be a while before I can communicate.

Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Mjohnson458; 1209022]Hello, All. I was wondering if anyone knew of any good dating websites for Panama?

I did a Google search and didn't come up with anything too interesting. Latinamericancupid. Com seemed like a well constructed site, but I did not want to waste my time before getting some expert advice. My goal is to find a nice girlfriend down there, maybe get an apartment and a car or something. I'm not looking for Pros. There's nothing wrong with Pros, but I'm looking for more than just sex. Oh, BTW my Spanish is almost non-existent, I'm starting to work on it, but it will be a while before I can communicate.

Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Believe it or not, facebook is a good resource!

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1209096]Believe it or not, facebook is a good resource![/QUOTE]Thanks for the response GauntMan. How would I locate interested girls to talk to on Facebook though?