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[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]Darling has a sauna. Don't think so. But hey, who knows...
Utopia, anyone knows the website address?
JB[/QUOTE]
Utopia has a website but its Thai Language.
[url]http://www.utopiabkk.com/[/url]
There are other English Web pages refering to Utopia but I think rules may prohibit me from quoting them (competitors to ISG).
Try this:
[url]http://www.nightlife.thaigirlbride-thaiwomanwife.com/bangkok-soapy-massage-1-asoke-rama9.html[/url]
Then click on the Utopia button.
Thanks for the URL. Mind you, no detailed girl pics and as far I can see, no rates. Damn:-)
JB
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Utopia has a website but its Thai Language.
[url]http://www.utopiabkk.com/[/url]
There are other English Web pages refering to Utopia but I think rules may prohibit me from quoting them (competitors to ISG).
Try this:
[url]http://www.nightlife.thaigirlbride-thaiwomanwife.com/bangkok-soapy-massage-1-asoke-rama9.html[/url]
Then click on the Utopia button.[/QUOTE]
I haven't heard Camfrog mentioned here yet, but I've found it's a great way to chat with and watch girls from Thailand, the Philippines, China and Japan on their webcams. In fact, there are so many Thai girls on there, they've had to establish their own webcam server. lol! And amazingly, I haven't come across any pro webcam sex girls yet either. Some get naked, some just dance around and tease and some just sit there. It's a free download from the website of the same name and you don't have to have a webcam yourself, although it obviously helps in getting the girls to talk to you, cam to cam. Beware of the fat pasty white bitches on the North America server, although the most naked-getting Thais and Pinoys frequent there too in search of "foreign talent." :-)
I've lined up several possibilities for my next trip to Bangkok so we'll see how it goes.
The program is free to download and sign up but you can only watch one cam at a time with the free registration. You CAN, however, pay for a more powerful Camfrog program that allows you to watch as many cams as you want simultaneously. I haven't done that yet...still having quite enough fun one cam at at time at this point.
Anybody else using camfrog?
Yesterday night I came back from Phnom Penh, went to Beergarden Soi7 around 0:30 just to find out they’re closing already 1:00am. Headed then to the Thermae to find out they’re closing already 1:30am. That’s one hour earlier than just one week ago. Someone else have some similar bad experiences in BKK recently?
After spending at least 3 months a year the last 5 years in BKK, it seems to me that BKK serves only as Hub to get to other Asian destinations in the future.
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]
Anybody else using camfrog?[/QUOTE]
I gave it a try, but couldn't get any of the many Thai girls to talk right away. Thanks for the heads up on it though. It looks like it might have some potential, just have to get comfortable with how it works.
[QUOTE=Jethro 69]Yesterday night I came back from Phnom Penh, went to Beergarden Soi7 around 0:30 just to find out they’re closing already 1:00am. Headed then to the Thermae to find out they’re closing already 1:30am. That’s one hour earlier than just one week ago. Someone else have some similar bad experiences in BKK recently?
After spending at least 3 months a year the last 5 years in BKK, it seems to me that BKK serves only as Hub to get to other Asian destinations in the future.[/QUOTE]
To me, this is a good thing. It just means that the ladies become available without a barfine in the Nana parking lot a half hour to an hour earlier. Frankly, I never understood the advantage of having clubs stay open past 2 or 3 AM. At 3 AM, I want to already be in my bed shagging my companion for the evening.
[QUOTE=Thor93]I gave it a try, but couldn't get any of the many Thai girls to talk right away. Thanks for the heads up on it though. It looks like it might have some potential, just have to get comfortable with how it works.[/QUOTE]
No worries...good luck with it. It does take a bit of time but the obvious advantage is you get to see the girl live instead of just a picture. There's definitely potential...I've got two really good looking 21 and 24 yos lined up for my trip to Bangers in a few weeks.
Chok dee! :-)
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]No worries...good luck with it. It does take a bit of time but the obvious advantage is you get to see the girl live instead of just a picture. There's definitely potential...I've got two really good looking 21 and 24 yos lined up for my trip to Bangers in a few weeks.
Chok dee! :-)[/QUOTE]
Since I already have long term TGF, I probably should not bother with looking at the Thai girls. The last time I messed around on the internet with Thai girls, I ended up in deep trouble with the TGF. But sitting here at home, it does get boring at times and that site is a good way to kill a lot of time.
Just be careful though, my experience is that many non-working girls who use the internet to snag a farang will end up much more expensive than any P4P girl, both financially and emotionally. Remember you can't pay them to leave and most of them are there to find someone who won't leave them.
I saw that B/G for a few days each time, during my 2 trips to BKK, this year. She said that she was new (SC hostess; the type that try to get customers inside the bar) to the trade and really seemed like she was. She spoke only a few words of English and did not have the usual routine.
The first time that I barfined her, we went to my hotel and, as the kissing, caressing got pretty hot, we missed the condom step. "Studip!": Yes, I know.
And more stupid is the fact that we did not use a condom for any of the numerous following sessions. We kept saying that we had to use one, the next time around, but! She always stayed overnight in my room.
I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.
If a friend of mine had done what I did, I would really get on his case and tell him of how irresponsible that was to do.
Lucky that she did not try to pin this on me (I think that, at this point of her career, she is still honest), but we will see what comes next, as the guy did not respond, (at least, by email).
Abortion is illegal in Thailand, but do you know if it is commonly practised?
I know that many girls are pushed by their family to get kids, so they can get a regular income for the kid's maintenance, back home, but I do not think that it would be the case with her family. Her mother works and she has 2 sisters that are not in the trade; none is aware of her activity.
[QUOTE=Thor93]Since I already have long term TGF, I probably should not bother with looking at the Thai girls. The last time I messed around on the internet with Thai girls, I ended up in deep trouble with the TGF. But sitting here at home, it does get boring at times and that site is a good way to kill a lot of time.
Just be careful though, my experience is that many non-working girls who use the internet to snag a farang will end up much more expensive than any P4P girl, both financially and emotionally. Remember you can't pay them to leave and most of them are there to find someone who won't leave them.[/QUOTE]
You butterfly, you! ;-) I think you're right...it's like the actor Charlie Sheen said about his use of hookers... "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave after we're done and not come back." A girlfriend is much more expensive in the long run, for sure. Just depends on what you're looking for, I guess.
[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]Thanks for the URL. Mind you, no detailed girl pics and as far I can see, no rates. Damn:-)
JB[/QUOTE]
Some girl pics but not good enough to actually choose one.
Expect a steep Farang Surcharge for westerners these days (perhaps 1000 Baht more than Thai price). So the girls really need to be spectacular to be worth it, and perhaps some are.
Yup, thats what I figured. I remember some time ago, when exploring BKK MP's some did not accept non-thai's (or at a surcharge). Interesting experience to be rejected due to ethnic roots.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Some girl pics but not good enough to actually choose one.
Expect a steep Farang Surcharge for westerners these days (perhaps 1000 Baht more than Thai price). So the girls really need to be spectacular to be worth it, and perhaps some are.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Visitusa]...
I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.
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[/QUOTE]Visitusa,
My recommendation would be NOT to get involved in that game. The Japanese guy is most likely expected to have some money, so he is contacted first.
If she will later find out that most likely YOU are the father (of the most likely not existing future baby) ignore the E-Mails and move on.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Visitusa]I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.
If a friend of mine had done what I did, I would really get on his case and tell him of how irresponsible that was to do.
Lucky that she did not try to pin this on me (I think that, at this point of her career, she is still honest), but we will see what comes next, as the guy did not respond, (at least, by email).
Abortion is illegal in Thailand, but do you know if it is commonly practised?
I know that many girls are pushed by their family to get kids, so they can get a regular income for the kid's maintenance, back home, but I do not think that it would be the case with her family. Her mother works and she has 2 sisters that are not in the trade; none is aware of her activity.[/QUOTE]
She could also just be working a scam. Years ago I had messed around with a freelancer who worked Spasso's. I was only with her overnight twice and both times we were so drunk, nothing really happened. I know that is hard to believe but she always was asking for too much money and I would put her off. And then at the end of the evening when we were both stinking drunk, she offered to go with me just to avoid having to go home. And the two times this happened we basically just passed out once we got to the room. Hard to believe but true. Maybe that is why I don't drink so much anymore.
I did trade emails with her though and always thought about trying to really make something happen. Anyway, I get this email from a guy. He said she had sent him an email saying she was pregnant and needed money for an abortion. He said he knew he could not have gotten her pregnant, because he had had a vasectomy. He had a hacker friend get into her email and found out she had sent the same email to 12 other guys. So he copied her entire email address list and sent a warning letter to everyone on it.
I guess since I never got her email telling me I was a father, I really did pass out on the bed with her, not once, but twice. Really a very poor performance on my part.
I actually talked to her about this on a subsequent trip. She claimed she was not really pregnant and she never wrote the emails. I tend to think she did and just got caught. This girl was very smart and also very high end. Never underestimate what a smart TG is capable of.
this was my last lay after two weeks in asia. here is a sex story with info sprinkled in:
ended up on soi cowboy. soi means street. walked in approximately every other go go bar on the strip. time was about 11:30 pm (closing time is 2 am sharp). the girls in each bar on soi cowboy wear number tags on their outfit as they dance. bars are themed and different ambiances. outfits vary from no bottom and stars covering nip to thong bottom and topless (must be a ban on total nude) and in between. aggressive hostesses (very thailand) also dressed in (different) uniforms. some smile and joke. they do not bother me.
worth noting is bacarat bar near the end on the left. nice set up. two stacked dancing floors and the floor is glass in between so you can look up skirts from downstairs. upstairs topless, downstairs dance uniforms. i was joking around, in a good mood for a last night before 18 hours of in air flight time.
saw many bangable babes (lots of 6's) at least 4 very tasty (there must be about 400 working girls within the quarter mile.) i made eye contact with a certain number 19 at one bar in the beginning, then a 29 at another (sharkeys bar on the left). i made it back to sharkeys bar for 29 and ordered my water.
i confirmed the procedure. exit fine of 500 (15 usd). my babe gai did not want a drink. some guy bought her a tequila shot – i could tell she did not like it. i sensed she was a showy dancer (good girl inside). i was hoping for dirty girl, but i knew not. i knew "likes to dance more than likes to screw" but. yummy.
she remembered me from the first pass. unfortunately not true love, but good enough.
gai is 5'2 in high heels. 88 pounds. little piece of thai ass.
i did not talk price with her, as is my way if they do not bring it up. as my new friend in cambodia rob noted, that is not always the best way to do it, especially if you are green (you know who you are).
about prices. girls on the street between na na and cowboy (soi 3 – about soi 21) cost 1, 000 (30 usd) short time (but several girls said no to me and wanted 1, 500 baht short time. which i would not pay, so they would not go). ladyboys ask the same prices. i never negotiate long time (a whole shenanigan on its own. one day if i am properly budgeted, i may negotiate long time and just cut 'em lose early, and see how they deal with the trapped (no immediate exit after load blown) angle).
prices are even higher on soi cowboy. i guess you could work it for less if you have time, but after the fine, it is between you and the girl. earlier at dinner, i spoke to a tourist who told me the scene. he had a bit of overpay about himself that he admitted too. he pays what the girls want 2, 000 (60 usd) for short time. he does not like to hassle or haggle.
gai is the classic shy good girl (who has ink and is on the pole. whatever, they are all over asia) *****.
very beautiful (from a northeast province) and a great smile, but low self-esteem issues "i am not beautiful" rap. smokin' body. hard. not too marked. classic girl for hire/american tourist picture perfect photo couple we made as we strolled down soi cowboy for the short taxi ride to my hotel the ruamchitt plaza & hotel near soi 15. [url]http://www.asiatravel.com/ruamchitt/index.html[/url]. it is walking distance, but not with gai in those high heels she broke out when she changed to civies. gai speaks some english. let's say a 4-5. enough to get into a conversation and when we got to something good, she lost the words.
with gai i knew it was all about breaking barriers. how to turn her on within minutes of meeting when she knows i am long gone forever in hours (bla bla bla). a struggle for french kissing, fingers inside, ass play. all battled for and achieved (she did not like assplay at all. surprise). great ass lickie.
sometimes everything is a fun struggle, and is why i take viagra.
i prefer to walk into the room with a tasty girl put her legs up and peel panties or face down on the bed and pull skirt and panties down. tough sometimes. gai is using the shower excuse (very big in asia). clean as a whistle but needs to shower. she is begging me. i am playing hardball. on the bed i get the titties out and go for the suck. get her motor running and she gets scared. happened 4 or 5 times. barriers. i did eat her out pre shower while she was standing on the bathroom floor, her foot on the bowl and then she blew me bare while sitting on the lid. very average bbbj. poor girl needs to relax. she said she liked it.
we settled on showering together. back to the bed, i ate her pussy and ass, she blew me, we 69ed with her on top (mmm and nice view (gai did not bother me about the lights at least.). she did not 69 for long. surprise not.
i talked to her about coming and masturbation and clients. anything to gain knowledge to get her wetter. tough nut.
i gloved up lambskin and jammed her. that is the bottom line for some of the barrier girls. you can get away with good tongue and finger stuff if they are getting it good. i watch the premature ejaculation. that ends the struggle every time. i put her through the positions, battling the whole time. i asked her why she was making a face when she loved it, and she said it hurt a little, but i did not believe her. after lots of schtupp, i asked her to get on top and she made such a face that i burst out laughing. i had to give her the pass.
the best jam on her was on her back with her legs held straight up so she could not push away. i tried to get her to hold her legs on her own in that position so my hands would be free, but she wimped out.
i blew a load with her on her back, i sprayed her hair (i do not do that on purpose), boobs, belly (sooo flat and hard) pubes and **** lips. she was exhausted and ready to get out. she did not come close to coming. pobrecita: (i made ready 1, 500 while she was showering. she did count it without a word, just a nice thank you. goodbye was me grinning and a smiling let me out of here gai. fun hour.
photos were taken at the beginning. she was not into photos and thought she looked ugly. the pics do not do her justice. no nudes. no way, i did not even ask. the sex always must take priority over the photos.
the soi cowboy strip reminded me of angeles city philippines main strip. i prefer angeles, as there is no huge city i. e. bangkok surrounding the strip, also, there are more bars (maybe three times as many) on the angeles strip (say 20-30 on soi cowboy and 60 or so on the angeles strip. in angeles there was more rotation of girls and just more pussy density, although there are obviously many thousands of hos in bangkok within 5 square miles.
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