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Inflation
[QUOTE=Itvajut; 1354059]One thing struck me during the last year of reading and posting forum posts. Inflation of prices.
When there was Graziella, Jennifer etc. Prices used to revolve around the 50 Euro mark. Prices began to rise when we had foreigners giving great services for 100 which could be acceptable sometimes.
But now we're reading about 200 / hr.
The new people posting seem to have no qualms in paying such money. Personally, I would always prefer visiting one of the older girls 4 times than paying 200 for 1 hr. As long as I get something as close as possible to GFE, and clean unrushed, pleasant service.
Trying a 10/10 girl once for 200 might be ok. But then again. Why not go to an FKK club in Germany, or visit Prague if you pay such prices regularly.
In any service, if there is demand. The price will go up. Unfortunately we keep demanding even at 200. So in the next 6 months we will be seeing more of this.
One interesting thought: guys, what is the limit you would pay for a working girl in Malta (foreign or not). My limit is 100. IF she's at least 8/10 and true GFE with great Massage and BBBJ and enthusiastic FS. So far no one has ever fit the bill. Even if some reports may make it seem otherwise.[/QUOTE]I agree with you itvajut. In my younger days I remember calling Ronnie anytime. It was Lm15 with a nice girl, always beautiful the ones I chose hehe. And she would treat you like king, sometimes even kissing. And there were no days in which they would be unavailable or 'closed' like some of the girls. Whenever you felt like fucking you just ringed, went did and paid. Ah and whats with this paying up front! I hate it! Its a gross desrespect to clients! First satisfied then you pay! Thumbs up for working ladies who work this way. Maria Sexoo's 40 euros per session is reminiscent of this and you pay once finished!
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[QUOTE=Itvajut; 1354059]One thing struck me during the last year of reading and posting forum posts. Inflation of prices.
When there was Graziella, Jennifer etc. Prices used to revolve around the 50 Euro mark. Prices began to rise when we had foreigners giving great services for 100 which could be acceptable sometimes.
But now we're reading about 200 / hr.
The new people posting seem to have no qualms in paying such money. Personally, I would always prefer visiting one of the older girls 4 times than paying 200 for 1 hr. As long as I get something as close as possible to GFE, and clean unrushed, pleasant service.
Trying a 10/10 girl once for 200 might be ok. But then again. Why not go to an FKK club in Germany, or visit Prague if you pay such prices regularly.
In any service, if there is demand. The price will go up. Unfortunately we keep demanding even at 200. So in the next 6 months we will be seeing more of this.
One interesting thought: guys, what is the limit you would pay for a working girl in Malta (foreign or not). My limit is 100. IF she's at least 8/10 and true GFE with great Massage and BBBJ and enthusiastic FS. So far no one has ever fit the bill. Even if some reports may make it seem otherwise.[/QUOTE]Simple supply and demand. I rarely visit practitioners here for services in Malta because of the quality.
Maria is excellent value and good service. But available outside of my hours (As I am at work when she is and I usually visit after a tense day at work) 50-60 Euro?
Aliky is great for massage and H / R. But no more (which is fine when that is what my mood requires) 40-50 Euro?
Then there is a huge gap. Most of the practitioners available for 80-120. Just aren't that cute and I'd rather spend the extra at 200 to bed a stunner. For 80-120 invested on dinner / drinks its not that hard to pick up a girl who is better looking and more enthusiastic!
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[QUOTE=Itvajut; 1354059]One thing struck me during the last year of reading and posting forum posts. Inflation of prices.
When there was Graziella, Jennifer etc. Prices used to revolve around the 50 Euro mark. Prices began to rise when we had foreigners giving great services for 100 which could be acceptable sometimes.
But now we're reading about 200 / hr.
The new people posting seem to have no qualms in paying such money. Personally, I would always prefer visiting one of the older girls 4 times than paying 200 for 1 hr. As long as I get something as close as possible to GFE, and clean unrushed, pleasant service.
Trying a 10/10 girl once for 200 might be ok. But then again. Why not go to an FKK club in Germany, or visit Prague if you pay such prices regularly.
In any service, if there is demand. The price will go up. Unfortunately we keep demanding even at 200. So in the next 6 months we will be seeing more of this.
One interesting thought: guys, what is the limit you would pay for a working girl in Malta (foreign or not). My limit is 100. IF she's at least 8/10 and true GFE with great Massage and BBBJ and enthusiastic FS. So far no one has ever fit the bill. Even if some reports may make it seem otherwise.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with your views. Someone posted a website here with several working women, some Maltese but most foreign it seems. However the prices asked for are quite over the top for me. True some guys seem to pay no problem but is it real value they are getting? I mean the only way I imagine myself paying for example Euro200 for an hour is under 30yr age + looks / body of 9 or 10/10 + GFE + deep BBBJ + passionate FS. And I'm not being stingy here. Just looking at value for the buck. But as long as demand keeps up with supply at these price s then that price becomes market fact.
I think what's needed is a "revamp" of older contacts of established women who still offer clean service at around Euro50 (Like Maria, Chantelle, Rodianne, Jasmine, Elisia and who knows how many more). Alas many others like these seem to have either been forgotten here or have disappeared from the scene (Graziella & friends especially!). Maybe seniors could help the newer guys here get to know about the good established ones that are still active.
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You guys forget that girls on visiting tour in Malta can have huge overhead. Flights, accommodation, food, taxi, advertising, phone credit etc etc. As well we have to deal with the quiet business days in between. So that visiting girls charge those prices is as well to break-even or make a tour profitable at the end. Charging lower prices doesn't guarantee you get more business as well lower prices can attract lower quality clients and trouble. The local ladies can charge lower prices as they live permanent here in Malta and wouldn't have those overheads in a big way. As well they are able to work straight for the whole month while most touring ladies work only a few weeks per month.
And what Chev said about hating to pay upfront and it's disrespectful. Chev you have to keep in mind that a girl meeting a guy for the first time doesn't know if he will be reliable with payment if he pays at the end of the service. What about the guy just walking out and doesn't pay at all? Chev I know you are a very respectful guy and would never do this, but keep in mind that not all guys are like you Chev. Some guys will take advantage, do the service and don't pay or just can say at the end "ooh I am not happy so I won't pay". And in this escort business there are many guys like this trying to take advantage of girls when they get the chance. I am happy not to ask the money upfront when it's a regular client I saw many times and there is a degree of trust. Otherwise I prefer to get the money thing out of the way soon before start of the service so we can relax and don't need to think about it. Sometimes even regular guys scam girls with payment, and I am saying this out of experience.
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As one said lm15 is approximately 40euro. Nowadays with 40euro you barely get anything. Except the one mentions at luxol chargers 20euro for 30mins or the paradise at 50euro. Only HJ or BJ.
If you pay I expect good service and not rushing or without attention.
That is why I asked if there are girls between 18 and 30 because at least you get nice looking young girls and with respect to asians, I did not find a good experience with them.
As regards to paying before hand, if I pay I am trusting her to give me the value for money and not get the money and she can do what she likes as long I am payed.
One user mentioned fkk, their prices are fixed and you really get what you pay for. Age 18-30 maximum
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[QUOTE=JessicaErotica; 1354406]You guys forget that girls on visiting tour in Malta can have huge overhead. Flights, accommodation, food, taxi, advertising, phone credit etc etc. As well we have to deal with the quiet business days in between. So that visiting girls charge those prices is as well to break-even or make a tour profitable at the end. Charging lower prices doesn't guarantee you get more business as well lower prices can attract lower quality clients and trouble. The local ladies can charge lower prices as they live permanent here in Malta and wouldn't have those overheads in a big way. As well they are able to work straight for the whole month while most touring ladies work only a few weeks per month.
And what Chev said about hating to pay upfront and it's disrespectful. Chev you have to keep in mind that a girl meeting a guy for the first time doesn't know if he will be reliable with payment if he pays at the end of the service. What about the guy just walking out and doesn't pay at all? Chev I know you are a very respectful guy and would never do this, but keep in mind that not all guys are like you Chev. Some guys will take advantage, do the service and don't pay or just can say at the end "ooh I am not happy so I won't pay". And in this escort business there are many guys like this trying to take advantage of girls when they get the chance. I am happy not to ask the money upfront when it's a regular client I saw many times and there is a degree of trust. Otherwise I prefer to get the money thing out of the way soon before start of the service so we can relax and don't need to think about it. Sometimes even regular guys scam girls with payment, and I am saying this out of experience.[/QUOTE]I don't agree with Jessica at all as the price shouldn't be determined on the overheads you have. These girls are coming here on a good paid working holiday after all. The only thing that should determine a price is the quality and nothing else. I don't mind paying 200 once in a while for a great experience over all and if I don't afford it simply go somewhere cheaper. So its not fair for us men complaining of these prices either, if you can't afford it simply don't go. You cannot enter a fine restaurant asking for a prime rib eye and then complain about the price when the food is actually good. If you can't afford it regularly go to Burger King instead and then once in a while have a treat and go to the restaurant.
The problem sometimes is when you go to Burger King and they charge you like the restaurant but in that case they only do it for a short while and never last. For me there are girls who are worth 100. 120 which is acceptable and reasonable for a good experience considering the risks they take and service they offer. Where I go she doesn't want all sorts of men and to work endless hours so she charges 120 to avoid these types and I think that's fair as well.
In most cases raising the price guarantees a certain level of people and if its a new client its fair as well to ask money upfront. There are plenty of men in this cycle who abuse girls by not paying or paying less, so first build trust with the girl and then see if she continues to ask money up front.
This is how I see it but not everyone is the same either so good luck with whatever you chose to do.
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I can assure you all that Jessica is an honest and nice lady. I been to her once. Only once because I'm on a tight budget and not because the experience was not nice. On the contrary it was great. In fact I spent some more time than the half hour I paid for. However she never asked for more money or rushed me finish quickly.
Guys keep in mind that these ladies spend all day in the apartment waiting for that call so that if you ask to visit in half an hour's time, they can be ready for you, and not have to travel back home from some sightseeing tour or shopping venture, telling you that they need two hours time to arrive and have a shower, only to be too tired during the action part.
These foreigners, especially the ones from western countries usually give good service and are nice people to meet, and have good feedback on AW to prove it. They deserve what they are charging even if usually it's beyond what I can pay. But what's fair is fair. Jessica belongs to this group.
[QUOTE=JessicaErotica; 1354406]You guys forget that girls on visiting tour in Malta can have huge overhead. Flights, accommodation, food, taxi, advertising, phone credit etc etc. As well we have to deal with the quiet business days in between. So that visiting girls charge those prices is as well to break-even or make a tour profitable at the end. Charging lower prices doesn't guarantee you get more business as well lower prices can attract lower quality clients and trouble. The local ladies can charge lower prices as they live permanent here in Malta and wouldn't have those overheads in a big way. As well they are able to work straight for the whole month while most touring ladies work only a few weeks per month.
And what Chev said about hating to pay upfront and it's disrespectful. Chev you have to keep in mind that a girl meeting a guy for the first time doesn't know if he will be reliable with payment if he pays at the end of the service. What about the guy just walking out and doesn't pay at all? Chev I know you are a very respectful guy and would never do this, but keep in mind that not all guys are like you Chev. Some guys will take advantage, do the service and don't pay or just can say at the end "ooh I am not happy so I won't pay". And in this escort business there are many guys like this trying to take advantage of girls when they get the chance. I am happy not to ask the money upfront when it's a regular client I saw many times and there is a degree of trust. Otherwise I prefer to get the money thing out of the way soon before start of the service so we can relax and don't need to think about it. Sometimes even regular guys scam girls with payment, and I am saying this out of experience.[/QUOTE]
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With Jennifer ecc you don't get an hour for €50. You don't even get 30mins. So please compare like with like. Now talk about quality. Is Jennifer ecc same quality as these foreigners who work from 5 star hotels or top class apartments? And what about the beds sheets ecc? Same cleanliness?
Now about FKK. Don't you have to buy a plane ticket and spend money for your hotel to fly to Germany for sex? Is it the same as having a girl a phone call away with 30 mins prior notice and 5 mins drive?
[QUOTE=Itvajut; 1354059]One thing struck me during the last year of reading and posting forum posts. Inflation of prices.
When there was Graziella, Jennifer etc. Prices used to revolve around the 50 Euro mark. Prices began to rise when we had foreigners giving great services for 100 which could be acceptable sometimes.
But now we're reading about 200 / hr.
The new people posting seem to have no qualms in paying such money. Personally, I would always prefer visiting one of the older girls 4 times than paying 200 for 1 hr. As long as I get something as close as possible to GFE, and clean unrushed, pleasant service.
Trying a 10/10 girl once for 200 might be ok. But then again. Why not go to an FKK club in Germany, or visit Prague if you pay such prices regularly.
In any service, if there is demand. The price will go up. Unfortunately we keep demanding even at 200. So in the next 6 months we will be seeing more of this.
One interesting thought: guys, what is the limit you would pay for a working girl in Malta (foreign or not). My limit is 100. IF she's at least 8/10 and true GFE with great Massage and BBBJ and enthusiastic FS. So far no one has ever fit the bill. Even if some reports may make it seem otherwise.[/QUOTE]
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Like with like
Granted. Malter Man. I fully agree that the service with some foreigners is better than with some Maltese or local girls. I hate a bad attitude so when I feel rushed or not greeted well (even with bad sheets etc) I just never go again. But there are some decent lower priced girls out there.
With Maria Sexoo my experience was great for example, and at Paradise I quite liked the Hong Kong maseuse, Nina used to be great and Graziella was not bad.
All I'm saying is that 4 visits to some of these locals which are or were worth going to. Ultimately are a lot more worth it that 1 visit to one of these foreign girls, although try them sometimes could be interesting despite the financial damage caused.
As for foreigners and their prices, for example I like the fact that Jessica offers a cheaper option with 60 Euros / 30 mins Tantra. This is good for people who want to try quality service and maybe are not so willing to spend 100 Euros especially the 1st time. And I do agree that its logical that they charge a bit more for service due to extra costs.
What I do have in critisism to what Jessica said is that. Yes foreigners do have to travel here, but there are cheap ways of travelling here, especially from the UK. Yes they have overhead costs such as flat or Hotel. But again. A 5 star Hotel is not necessary for a 5 star service. A good, clean 3/4 star would do fine.
What I think is. That these foreigners have realized that Malta did not really pass through a financial crisis as many other countries did. And are exploiting the fact that the competition is not so strong to charge prices which allow them to have a good holiday in a 5 star hotel all expenses paid and make some good profit too. Unfortunately, our curiosity allows for this market price.
I know that the last paragraph is a bit harsh. But its because from what I see. There is no attempt by the foreigners to make these services a bit more affordable.
In defence of Jessica also I must say that she is right. It does weed out bad clients. And thats good. But again even at a lower price they'd be weeded out.
I personally liked Helen Czech for example because of her reasonable rates and good service.
Finally, about FKK. Yes ticket etc would cost. But FKK was just an example. Most of us do travel, for work, holiday or anything. What I'm saying is when travelling most countries do have good services at lower rates than foreigners in Malta are charging. I am lucky to travel often so I don't need to visit foreigners in Malta if they are over priced.
Please. Just a note. I in no way intend to be negatively critical to Jessica Erotica or Malter Man. Both of which I respect very much. One as a quality service provider and another as a very valid contributer. I only attempt to give my constructive point of view, based on a logical analysis of the situation.
[QUOTE=Malter Man; 1354597]With Jennifer ecc you don't get an hour for €50. You don't even get 30mins. So please compare like with like. Now talk about quality. Is Jennifer ecc same quality as these foreigners who work from 5 star hotels or top class apartments? And what about the beds sheets ecc? Same cleanliness?
Now about FKK. Don't you have to buy a plane ticket and spend money for your hotel to fly to Germany for sex? Is it the same as having a girl a phone call away with 30 mins prior notice and 5 mins drive?[/QUOTE]
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If I charge a high price I think its fair as well to receive guys in a good and clean location and offer a good service. Mostly upscale hotels or apartments, clean sheets and bedding, clean towels, hot shower facility, cozy background music, convenient parking, even drinks provided if necessary. As well offering a good top and relaxing service and being un rushed. Most girls have as well a choice of toys, clothes, lingerie, uniforms that you can choose from and will receive you dressed nicely, sexy or elegant in high heels and stockings. You will get what you pay for. And most foreign girls visiting Malta will offer a better service for that price as most of them are well travel ladies with good feedback. Of course there are some exceptions. If those ladies have to offer same service and location quality lets say for 50e then there is no point visiting Malta anymore. And you guys will end up with no ladies wanting to come here anymore.
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[QUOTE=JessicaErotica;1354679]If I charge a high price I think its fair as well to receive guys in a good and clean location and offer a good service. Mostly upscale hotels or apartments, clean sheets and bedding, clean towels, hot shower facility, cozy background music, convenient parking, even drinks provided if necessary. As well offering a good top and relaxing service and being un rushed. Most girls have as well a choice of toys, clothes, lingerie, uniforms that you can choose from and will receive you dressed nicely, sexy or elegant in high heels and stockings. You will get what you pay for. And most foreign girls visiting Malta will offer a better service for that price as most of them are well travel ladies with good feedback. Of course there are some exceptions. If those ladies have to offer same service and location quality lets say for 50e then there is no point visiting Malta anymore. And you guys will end up with no ladies wanting to come here anymore.[/QUOTE]Jessica you make very valid arguments and I have no doubt that in your case you are the real deal.
In my case I was only complaining about the mediocre being offered for inflated prices. Yes they will maybe bite you only once but with a number of them around you need to be careful. Lastly, I also believe that local women, who have less overheads (and may even be less value) , can tend to up their prices too given that the only alternative for Maltese guys would then be the more expensive foreign lady service.
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Re Polish massesue
[QUOTE=Boy21;1351838]Is it in ta paris?[/QUOTE]She is close to HSBC bkara bypass. I wonder if anyone tried her.
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Eliza Hamrun
Hi,
Can someone please help me?
I want to contact Eliza Hamrun.
Can't find any on AW or VS.
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Many who come to me ask for discounts or beg for more time when I charge only 40euro, I am clean, offer unrushed service etc. I have to pay rent and bills for the apartment I work in besides my personal life expenses. But reading here it looks like men prefer to pay high prices to foreign women who come here to squeeze your money. My clients have decreased to a point I am considering to stop working and get a normal job, at least no more rent and will have a steady income. There are days when I have no clients at all.
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Rest assured that no offence was taken Itvatjut. I was just voicing my opinion as you yourself are. I agree that prices are steep for most of us. But I still beleive that not all girls are making a big profit. Big income does not mean big profit. I think the foreigners cannot charge less most of the times. I have noticed that some of them have already reduced their prices. Some of them have reduced the hourly rate from €200 to €150 the next time they came over to the island. Others have visited us only once or twice. And not a single one of them has increased their rate. This all shows that there is competition out there contrary to what a lot of us are arguing to. I beleive that there have been girls who lost money. Obviously the ones who return often are making some profit. But good luck to them. They are the best and deserve it. The prices are dictated by the market. Good market, and prices go up. Bad market and prices go down. The greater the number of girls who visit, the more competition. The more competition, the better the service and the lower the prices. If these girls don't profit enough we risk ending up without these foreigners. And they have a specific market too. Some customers do not want to visit a girl who sees 20 customers a day. Others do not care as far as they do not have to fork out too much money.
But overall this is a healthy discussion. And good to have some girls chime in too.
[QUOTE=Itvajut; 1354655]Granted. Malter Man. I fully agree that the service with some foreigners is better than with some Maltese or local girls. I hate a bad attitude so when I feel rushed or not greeted well (even with bad sheets etc) I just never go again. But there are some decent lower priced girls out there.
With Maria Sexoo my experience was great for example, and at Paradise I quite liked the Hong Kong maseuse, Nina used to be great and Graziella was not bad.
All I'm saying is that 4 visits to some of these locals which are or were worth going to. Ultimately are a lot more worth it that 1 visit to one of these foreign girls, although try them sometimes could be interesting despite the financial damage caused.
As for foreigners and their prices, for example I like the fact that Jessica offers a cheaper option with 60 Euros / 30 mins Tantra. This is good for people who want to try quality service and maybe are not so willing to spend 100 Euros especially the 1st time. And I do agree that its logical that they charge a bit more for service due to extra costs.
What I do have in critisism to what Jessica said is that. Yes foreigners do have to travel here, but there are cheap ways of travelling here, especially from the UK. Yes they have overhead costs such as flat or Hotel. But again. A 5 star Hotel is not necessary for a 5 star service. A good, clean 3/4 star would do fine.
What I think is. That these foreigners have realized that Malta did not really pass through a financial crisis as many other countries did. And are exploiting the fact that the competition is not so strong to charge prices which allow them to have a good holiday in a 5 star hotel all expenses paid and make some good profit too. Unfortunately, our curiosity allows for this market price.
I know that the last paragraph is a bit harsh. But its because from what I see. There is no attempt by the foreigners to make these services a bit more affordable.
In defence of Jessica also I must say that she is right. It does weed out bad clients. And thats good. But again even at a lower price they'd be weeded out.
I personally liked Helen Czech for example because of her reasonable rates and good service.
Finally, about FKK. Yes ticket etc would cost. But FKK was just an example. Most of us do travel, for work, holiday or anything. What I'm saying is when travelling most countries do have good services at lower rates than foreigners in Malta are charging. I am lucky to travel often so I don't need to visit foreigners in Malta if they are over priced.
Please. Just a note. I in no way intend to be negatively critical to Jessica Erotica or Malter Man. Both of which I respect very much. One as a quality service provider and another as a very valid contributer. I only attempt to give my constructive point of view, based on a logical analysis of the situation.[/QUOTE]