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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2595608]You pretty much hit the nail on the head, except that ladies come to my place, not tomboys.
Also, most of the ladies aren't former barfines, since in pre-Covid days, they had too many customers, I rarely saw them. They are friends of friends.
..[/QUOTE]In Thailand, a "tomboy" refers to a lady, a genuine natural born female. But one who often chooses to engage in sexual activity with other females, although not necessarily exclusively. It is not the same as a "ladyboy."
It seemed many of your visiting ladies were quick to get naked, rub and lick each other without being prompted or directed to do so by you. I know you said the ones in the know told the newer ones how to get a return invitation and maybe the girl-on-girl stuff was what they were told.
Even so, I don't think there would be many takers for that in Thailand unless they were already into it. I have never requested nor expected two or more girls to rub and lick each other in my room. So maybe that is a much easier line for financially needy Thai girls to cross.
But my experience and observation in Bangkok for the past year and a half of supposedly dire economic conditions is most Thai hookers would rather be 6 months past due on rent, starve and watch their babies starve than engage in something as simple as DFK, trim their hairy pussy or stay Long Time instead of Short Time for as much as 2,000 - 3,000 baht if those are not activities they would have done anyway and they just didn't feel like doing it.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2595767]In Thailand, a "tomboy" refers to a lady, a genuine natural born female. But one who often chooses to engage in sexual activity with other females, although not necessarily exclusively. It is not the same as a "ladyboy."
It seemed many of your visiting ladies were quick to get naked, rub and lick each other without being prompted or directed to do so by you. I know you said the ones in the know told the newer ones how to get a return invitation and maybe the girl-on-girl stuff was what they were told.
Even so, I don't think there would be many takers for that in Thailand unless they were already into it. I have never requested nor expected two or more girls to rub and lick each other in my room. So maybe that is a much easier line for financially needy Thai girls to cross.
But my experience and observation in Bangkok for the past year and a half of supposedly dire economic conditions is most Thai hookers would rather be 6 months past due on rent, starve and watch their babies starve than engage in something as simple as DFK, trim their hairy pussy or stay Long Time instead of Short Time for as much as 2,000 - 3,000 baht if those are not activities they would have done anyway and they just didn't feel like doing it.[/QUOTE]
A Tomboy is pretty recognizable (they mostly look like Kim Jong Un, although there exceptions), and is not the same as a lady who has sex with other ladies. These are kind of rare. I had 2 tonight who do play with other ladies. One crawled over me to play with other lady, who was in distress over it. I had to pull the one lady off the other one. But then the second lady said that she didn't like a lady to lick her pussy, but she could do for another lady. And she did. All this was taking place on a sofa, so the lady had to position herself over me, so I took advantage of her while she licked the pussy of the first Lady. This took place about after two hours of heavy drinking, they started in on me after 2 drinks, after about an hour, they were alternating between BJs and HJs. At one point, I got a combined HJ / BJ from the two ladies.
BTW, one of the ladies who came tonight works massage on Soi Honey, along with 10 other ladies. She says customers are scarce, she gets maybe 1 short time every 3 days.
Along with drinking, I play videos the ladies like. If you are in Thailand now, you know the #1 video is the one with the Mia Noi and the Mia Luang, that generally breaks the ice.
The ladies can be very polite, they ask if they can take off their clothes and even ask permission to do the first BJ.
I know the ladies talk to each, and I am sure there is a form of peer pressure going on.
I had a lady decline me for an appointment next week, she basically said she is not coming for a while. I don't know why, maybe she has a new sponsor, or maybe she just doesn't like me. The problem is that the lady who comes with her is the one with the cop boyfriend, so I want to keep her happy. So, I gave her control of her daytime slot, and she will bring a friend.
No DFK tonight, but plenty from a lady earlier in the day. Maybe 25% force it on me. I woke up with a headache the other day, so I am taking Cipro in case I caught something from kissing or sex.
Tomorrow I take a day off, I just have a lady come all day and night, but no drinking.
I hope I answered your points. Oh, yeah, most ladies here have shaved pussies, and I just had two sets of ladies request that their evening sessions convert to overnighters, so they can drink and have time to recover.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2595608]The guys who don't believe my reports don't seem to understand what it's like in Pattaya now. Or maybe they have never come to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I have been in Thailand since the shitstorm that is Covid began. The entertainment areas have been completely decimated. Pattaya, Nana, Patpong, Cowboy are like ghost towns complete with tumbleweeds blowing down the streets. It is hard to comprehend, I still think I am in the twilight zone every time I pass by one of these areas.
There are less than 1% of the usual amount of foreign customers here. So if you are a foreigner with cash you can have as many girls over as your dick can handle at a relative bargain price.
The only qualification I would add is that the true stunners probably won't come over at that price. The truly beautiful girls will have probably hooked up with some long term arrangement. She won't be earning the 6 figures she was pre-covid but will be getting by just fine.
So yes, Explorers posts are completely believable.
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Tom vs Tomboy
Correct me if I am wrong but I always thought it was "tom" and not "tomboy". I have given up explaining to Thai girls the origin of the word "tom" as it gets hit by a vacant stare.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2595608]You pretty much hit the nail on the head, except that ladies come to my place, not tomboys..[/QUOTE]Mate we believe you. It's tough in most Asian countries. Unlike in Australia there is little or no gov support for ordinary people. I don't think most guys don't believe your reports. It's just they are jealous of all the fun you are having. Some of us appreciate the effort you are putting in and typing the reports. If it was me the last thing on my mind would be get up the next day and turn the computer on. I would be changing the girl out, get the room cleaned, shower breakfast and back to sleep. Wake up and plan evening entertainment.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2596226]I have been in Thailand since the shitstorm that is Covid began. The entertainment areas have been completely decimated. Pattaya, Nana, Patpong, Cowboy are like ghost towns complete with tumbleweeds blowing down the streets. It is hard to comprehend, I still think I am in the twilight zone every time I pass by one of these areas.
There are less than 1% of the usual amount of foreign customers here. So if you are a foreigner with cash you can have as many girls over as your dick can handle at a relative bargain price.
The only qualification I would add is that the true stunners probably won't come over at that price. The truly beautiful girls will have probably hooked up with some long term arrangement. She won't be earning the 6 figures she was pre-covid but will be getting by just fine.
So yes, Explorers posts are completely believable.[/QUOTE]I am not having stunners come over, just your usual Gentlemens Club variety.
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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2596432]Correct me if I am wrong but I always thought it was "tom" and not "tomboy". I have given up explaining to Thai girls the origin of the word "tom" as it gets hit by a vacant stare.[/QUOTE]The bargirls use the term "tomboy".
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Weighing in.
I was in Pattaya in July for two weeks.
I found it annoying (flakey) enough to get one girl over each day, let alone shifts of two every couple of hours. Even with MonkeyPaw's expert guidance.
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[QUOTE=JohnIsFun;2596437]Mate we believe you. It's tough in most Asian countries. Unlike in Australia there is little or no gov support for ordinary people. I don't think most guys don't believe your reports. It's just they are jealous of all the fun you are having. Some of us appreciate the effort you are putting in and typing the reports. If it was me the last thing on my mind would be get up the next day and turn the computer on. I would be changing the girl out, get the room cleaned, shower breakfast and back to sleep. Wake up and plan evening entertainment.[/QUOTE]Most overnighters leave by 5 am, so I wake up maybe 7 or 8 am, drink coffee, and read the Covid stats. About half the ladies clean my condo to some degree. The big time sink is shopping (I have to buy loads of tequila). Maybe twice a week I have a lady meet me at the supermarket to help get the stuff back to my place. I just started bottled water delivery, so that helps, because I make my own ice (ice factories in Pattaya have Covid). Previously, I was going back and forth for bottled water.
Because there are so many ladies that need money, I am having more overnighters. But not every lady can spend the night, for those with boyfriends or sponsors or customers, it's a no can do. Maybe once a week, I have 2 ladies spend the night. Otherwise, I have 2 visits per day. The first set of ladies show up around 11 am. I can say it's a little difficult to get into party mode that early. Some of the ladies are hot to trot right away, but it takes me a while to get warmed up.
Some ladies come alone, but they don't like that much. It's not unusual for two ladies to give me a HJ while jabbering away at each other. So, for a single lady, they miss the company of another Thai lady. Remember, nobody gets out much here.
Between the two shifts, I get a break. The length of the break depends on when I kick the previous ladies out, and that depends on my sense of the vibe, when the ladies have had enough, or they are drunk and need to home to pass out, or when I am tired of them. I usually have lunch, take another shower, clean up any messes, or check the computer during that break.
The evening shift ladies are generally more top tier, they like to sleep in, so the early shift doesn't work for them. Because they have customers, they are not so "horny" as the day ladies, they don't have to work so hard. Still, there is plenty they do, and some ladies have voracious sexual appetites. When they are really horny, they ask to go to the bedroom, sometimes because they are shy, and sometimes because the sofa isn't that comfortable.
Sometimes, things get surrealistic, I had a lady ask me to lick her pussy, but she quickly added that she was a squirter. So, I had to gently decline, because I have learned that I need to prepare for squirters, get towels to cover the sofa or bed, and it was late, and so I told her next time. I hope she forgets.
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[QUOTE=JJanni;2596492]Weighing in.
I was in Pattaya in July for two weeks.
I found it annoying (flakey) enough to get one girl over each day, let alone shifts of two every couple of hours. Even with MonkeyPaw's expert guidance.
Either Explorer is fucking homeless swampdonkies from the beach or he's full of bullshit.[/QUOTE]If you want to see who is coming over, look at the Maggie Mays website.
When a lady misses a shift because she has a customer, she will always send a replacement. Having ladies come in pairs ensures that two ladies come.
There is a big difference between a 2 week millionaire in Pattaya and a permanent resident, and the ladies know it. They don't want to get on my bad side by flaking. In fact, about half show up early. They book ahead of time, sometimes a week in advance, and show up. I am attaching Messenger conversations as an example.
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No, this is not one of the ladies coming over to my place, but I have barfined her in the past. She's not in Pattaya now. Maybe someone here knows her, so I won't say any more about her.
What's your opinion, is she your type?
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Yeah
Totally, cute fit petite and beautiful. Lucky to have barfined her in the past mate.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2596501]No, this is not one of the ladies coming over to my place, but I have barfined her in the past. She's not in Pattaya now. Maybe someone here knows her, so I won't say any more about her.
What's your opinion, is she your type?[/QUOTE]
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Pattaya People
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsSa_xffM5Y[/URL]
I find these current videos very interesting. Getting past the hookers giving the poor money and the hard pressed cops not getting bribes, the outstanding thing in these videos is all the farangs. I get lots of Thais are day visiting to Pattaya now that the "tourists" are not around and I get lots of farang retirees live thereabouts.
But can anyone explain all the comparatively young farang in this and other videos? I get some of them might be mobbed up or might have been teaching English or whatever but surely those guys would have left, with visas expired. I reckon a lot of the inked up babes have sponsors (I take it the guy holding hands is Korean, not Thai) but how come all the young farangs? I get numbers are low compared to normal times but they stand out in almost all these videos.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2597072][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsSa_xffM5Y[/URL]
I find these current videos very interesting. Getting past the hookers giving the poor money and the hard pressed cops not getting bribes, the outstanding thing in these videos is all the farangs. I get lots of Thais are day visiting to Pattaya now that the "tourists" are not around and I get lots of farang retirees live thereabouts.
But can anyone explain all the comparatively young farang in this and other videos? I get some of them might be mobbed up or might have been teaching English or whatever but surely those guys would have left, with visas expired. I reckon a lot of the inked up babes have sponsors (I take it the guy holding hands is Korean, not Thai) but how come all the young farangs? I get numbers are low compared to normal times but they stand out in almost all these videos.[/QUOTE]Well it wasn't in Pattaya but if you read about 'Joe Ferrari' one of the seven cops wanted for murder (that's his nickname because of the Lamborghini he owns (just one of his numerous sports cars). A $360,000 car on a cops salary (no bribes ever taken). Bribes are the norm but once those who can afford to pay the bribes are no longer around then the wallet gets slim. That used to be how you got your retirement visas, slide the envelope across the table and all the steps are completed without issue.
Anyone here remember watching the Pattaya video's a few years before the pandemic? Seeing these guys living in Thailand on basically nothing but getting by just enough to make border runs (or stay illegally in many cases). Will travel ever get back to where these people could manipulate the visa systems? Or are those days over? I used to watch all of the cheap charlie hotel video's as research on places to stay but so many of those videos don't mesh with the current situation in Pattaya on the ground today. So so many of those youtube travel on a budget videos, most of which are now gone.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2597072][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsSa_xffM5Y[/URL]
I find these current videos very interesting. Getting past the hookers giving the poor money and the hard pressed cops not getting bribes, the outstanding thing in these videos is all the farangs. I get lots of Thais are day visiting to Pattaya now that the "tourists" are not around and I get lots of farang retirees live thereabouts.
But can anyone explain all the comparatively young farang in this and other videos? I get some of them might be mobbed up or might have been teaching English or whatever but surely those guys would have left, with visas expired. I reckon a lot of the inked up babes have sponsors (I take it the guy holding hands is Korean, not Thai) but how come all the young farangs? I get numbers are low compared to normal times but they stand out in almost all these videos.[/QUOTE]Due to Covid, Thai Immigration is providing temporary extensions to most visas, 60 days at a time. The borders are closed, so no more border runs.
I came in late April on a 45 day visa exempt basis, and just extended after that.