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[QUOTE=FakeIt;3074091]I give it 1 month before they roll back the policy once chaos ensues.[/QUOTE]Towel and sheet policy is grim and will make it less hygienic. Showers and rooms aren't exactly luxurious in any event. When it was worth visiting, Palace girls would be interested in how busy other clubs were and it was usually Sharks. They often commented that they would go there but were put off by the dirty rooms and facilities.
It is a shame that Palace and World went to the dogs as they had the nicest rooms and facilities. World in particular reminded me of a nice country club.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;3074066]Certainly true as it is now stated on the prices page of the official Sharks website.
On the subject of sheets, the main reason so much is consumed is that they are slightly too small. Just increase its length and breadth by half a metre and there would be no need to have more than 1 sheet.[/QUOTE]I can imagine girls use the same sheets for a whole day with lots of guys to save money. Indeed anti-hygiene policy.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;3074098]Towel and sheet policy is grim and will make it less hygienic. Showers and rooms aren't exactly luxurious in any event. When it was worth visiting, Palace girls would be interested in how busy other clubs were and it was usually Sharks. They often commented that they would go there but were put off by the dirty rooms and facilities.
It is a shame that Palace and World went to the dogs as they had the nicest rooms and facilities. World in particular reminded me of a nice country club.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on the overall conditions. But the times I went to clubs in Ecuador, there was a $1 charge for sheets and a condom in the few places I visited. Maybe that's GRINGO charge, as my Spanish is poor at best (and even poor, is being kind).
And if you want a super clean, wonderful FKK, try Sakura in Boblingen outside of Stuttgart. Small, but my favorite.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;3074142]I'm with you on the overall conditions. But the times I went to clubs in Ecuador, there was a $1 charge for sheets and a condom in the few places I visited. Maybe that's GRINGO charge, as my Spanish is poor at best (and even poor, is being kind).
And if you want a super clean, wonderful FKK, try Sakura in Boblingen outside of Stuttgart. Small, but my favorite.[/QUOTE]Yes, Sakura if you are not too demanding for looks. Far below many at Sharks for looks.
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[QUOTE=EdmondJ;3074134]I can imagine girls use the same sheets for a whole day with lots of guys to save money. Indeed anti-hygiene policy.[/QUOTE]Think just a bit: if 2 towels for guys now included in entry, but I can t think other than 3 sheets for each room, impossible for the day. 3 sheets are enough for me, when I'm not into dirty sex. 2 were enough at Penelope with my German who showered me squirting and after I fucked her in swimming pool bed. If I thought she was dirty, I would not have gone with her.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;3074142]I'm with you on the overall conditions. But the times I went to clubs in Ecuador, there was a $1 charge for sheets and a condom in the few places I visited. Maybe that's GRINGO charge, as my Spanish is poor at best (and even poor, is being kind).
And if you want a super clean, wonderful FKK, try Sakura in Boblingen outside of Stuttgart. Small, but my favorite.[/QUOTE]Whiskteria Estark by Diana Plus hotel in Madrid also had a towel fee when I visited in 2017 for one or two euros but that worked efficiently as you would pick a girl in the bar downstairs and before you went to the room upstairs there was the towel woman at the bottom of the stairs. Difference was there was no entrance fee for WE and you wouldn't otherwise need a towel when in the bar as you would be wearing your clothes and the girls were not naked but skimpily dressed. In a FKK the girls definitely need a towel at all times to sit on and for guys some prefer a towel to a gown to relax in especially when it's hot or you want to chill on a lounger outside.
Ultimately it's the quality and quantity of the girls that attracts punters and most including myself will overlook such things but it's a shame the other Hessen FKKs have deteriorated as Sharks could do with some competition to jolt it into improving facilities.
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Competition
[QUOTE=BeWilder;3074267]Ultimately it's the quality and quantity of the girls that attracts punters and most including myself will overlook such things but it's a shame the other Hessen FKKs have deteriorated as Sharks could do with some competition to jolt it into improving facilities.[/QUOTE]I agree with this 1,000%. Right now, I don't see a strong competitor in Germany that can take on Sharks. Sharks is the clear number 1, and it's exactly when that happens that club owners start getting greedy and think they can get away with more and more and more, like tacking on fees for towels and sheets, until finally customers have had enough and stop going. Don't think it can't happen owners! Scandalo in Malaga, Spain started doing bullshit like that, and it did hurt their business, particularly because mongers had at least one other good club they could go to. Right now, I'm not seeing a lot of strong competition for Sharks. I'm talking at least one other club that's offering what Sharks is offering on the same scale in all facets of club operations. Maybe Artemis could do it (maybe). Entrance fees at some of these clubs, including at Artemis, have already gotten too damn high! Now a club wants to start charging extra for towels and sheets too? GTFOH! I do recall from many years ago that at one point, World was charging extra if you wanted a robe versus just walking around with a towel wrapped around your waist. Well, we see where World is now don't we? I'm not saying it's all because of that one policy (of course it's not), but that does go into the overall mix.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3074327]... I do recall from many years ago that at one point, World was charging extra if you wanted a robe versus just walking around with a towel wrapped around your waist. ...[/QUOTE]I believed that this used to be the norm in other Hessen clubs as well, including Oase, if robes were available at all. Can't remember if Sharks provided free robes from the start, it's one of the newer clubs. Not sure if World ever dropped the surcharge for robes, same for Mainhattan.
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Clarification
[QUOTE=TheCane;3074327]Now a club wants to start charging extra for towels and sheets too? GTFOH! I do recall from many years ago that at one point, World was charging extra if you wanted a robe versus just walking around with a towel wrapped around your waist. Well, we see where World is now don't we? I'm not saying it's all because of that one policy (of course it's not), but that does go into the overall mix.[/QUOTE]I'm saying that World started doing this years ago, and the last time I was there in 2025, they still had the practice. Plus, they would charge extra if you wanted more than 2 towels.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3074327]I agree with this 1,000%. Right now, I don't see a strong competitor in Germany that can take on Sharks. Sharks is the clear number 1, and it's exactly when that happens that club owners start getting greedy and think they can get away with more and more and more, like tacking on fees for towels and sheets, until finally customers have had enough and stop going. Don't think it can't happen owners! Scandalo in Malaga, Spain started doing bullshit like that, and it did hurt their business, particularly because mongers had at least one other good club they could go to. Right now, I'm not seeing a lot of strong competition for Sharks. I'm talking at least one other club that's offering what Sharks is offering on the same scale in all facets of club operations. Maybe Artemis could do it (maybe). Entrance fees at some of these clubs, including at Artemis, have already gotten too damn high! Now a club wants to start charging extra for towels and sheets too? GTFOH! I do recall from many years ago that at one point, World was charging extra if you wanted a robe versus just walking around with a towel wrapped around your waist. Well, we see where World is now don't we? I'm not saying it's all because of that one policy (of course it's not), but that does go into the overall mix.[/QUOTE]Sharks is number 1 only regarding the quantity of girls, but not quality. I've been disgusted by the number of obese women working there. Also, girls chain smoke all the time (in other clubs, indoor smoking is restricted). This isn't good not just for customers but for girls. As a result, many girls who were good looking years ago age so fast and look unattractive today.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;3074262]Think just a bit: if 2 towels for guys now included in entry, but I can t think other than 3 sheets for each room, impossible for the day. 3 sheets are enough for me, when I'm not into dirty sex. 2 were enough at Penelope with my German who showered me squirting and after I fucked her in swimming pool bed. If I thought she was dirty, I would not have gone with her.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying 3 sheets will be enough for a whole day. Obviously not. But I'm saying some girls will definitely use the same sheets for multiple sessions to save money, which is disgusting.
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[QUOTE=EdmondJ;3074407]I'm not saying 3 sheets will be enough for a whole day. Obviously not. But I'm saying some girls will definitely use the same sheets for multiple sessions to save money, which is disgusting.[/QUOTE]Do you think a bit before writing, did you experience this new rule? So, are you saying girls are taking 3 dirty sheets with them downstairs, when you pay, then in lockers, and when you find a attractive and ask her to go to room, she answer: OK, but wait, I go to lockers to take dirty sheets I use whole day and she goes upstairs with 3 dirty sheets. Do you think many guys will go like this? When many girls are already not so busy, before new rule. I worry more, after covid and Ukraine war, for a new inflation due to this new rule and Ormuz pass because of Trump. But, not only Sharks, but many other clubs with clean sheets.
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First Time
[QUOTE=AMHobbyist;3072504]I have visited this website infrequently for more years (maybe 20?) than I would care to think about. But I am strictly an amateur at this hobby so my occasional visits were more out of curiosity and sometimes boredom. One of the constant themes I noticed is whenever I check out a given forum it always seems that there is a lament from the posters (who I gather are more regulars) that things have gone down hill. So Pattaya, Angeles, Tijuana, Costa Rica, DR, FKK X, pick your destination is just not as good as it used to be. The girls are uglier, older, greedier and the quality of service is less but the prices are more. Maybe this is just the way of things. But this involves the worlds oldest profession so somehow the customers keep coming.
At any rate I am getting older and trying to tick off some bucket list items while the equipment is still functional. And somehow the Mrs agreed to let me visit Europe solo (I live in US). So I plan to hit Sharks and Globe next week..[/QUOTE]Your post caught my interest as I just lined up my first trip for the fall. Sharks, wellcum and globe in that order. And I've been struggling with some of the things you've been struggling with such as disappointed with the reviews. But no matter where in the world you go people who go there the most will tell you it was better 10 years ago. Prices inevitably go up with inflation and cost of living and vary with the economy. And it's virtually impossible to find someplace in this world where it's more expensive and worse than the United States LOL.
I plan to come back and post my findings after my trip. I hope you do the same. So many people come on here asking for help before their trip and then never come back.
Fortunately, I haven't noticed a huge drop in quality on my travels. It's just more expensive. I was at Pigmalion in Madrid earlier this year. Probably the best lineup I have ever seen there in my 30 years of going but also the most expensive with most girls asking €500-€600, which is almost twice what I paid the last time I was there. But the line up at Vive (RIP) was in line with how Pig used to be as were prices.
It'll be interesting to see how this FKK tour compares to the brothels and bars of Spain. Especially since I do have a preference for Latinas over Romanians.
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[QUOTE=TomTraubert;3074655]Your post caught my interest as I just lined up my first trip for the fall. Sharks, wellcum and globe in that order. And I've been struggling with some of the things you've been struggling with such as disappointed with the reviews. But no matter where in the world you go people who go there the most will tell you it was better 10 years ago. Prices inevitably go up with inflation and cost of living and vary with the economy. And it's virtually impossible to find someplace in this world where it's more expensive and worse than the United States LOL.
I plan to come back and post my findings after my trip. I hope you do the same. So many people come on here asking for help before their trip and then never come back.
Fortunately, I haven't noticed a huge drop in quality on my travels. It's just more expensive. I was at Pigmalion in Madrid earlier this year. Probably the best lineup I have ever seen there in my 30 years of going but also the most expensive with most girls asking 500-600, which is almost twice what I paid the last time I was there. But the line up at Vive (RIP) was in line with how Pig used to be as were prices..[/QUOTE]Spain is better for south Americans than FKKs, but FKKs are on higher quality for me, even Spain have better foods.
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[QUOTE=TomTraubert;3074655]Your post caught my interest as I just lined up my first trip for the fall. Sharks, wellcum and globe in that order. And I've been struggling with some of the things you've been struggling with such as disappointed with the reviews. But no matter where in the world you go people who go there the most will tell you it was better 10 years ago. Prices inevitably go up with inflation and cost of living and vary with the economy. And it's virtually impossible to find someplace in this world where it's more expensive and worse than the United States LOL.
I plan to come back and post my findings after my trip. I hope you do the same. So many people come on here asking for help before their trip and then never come back.
Fortunately, I haven't noticed a huge drop in quality on my travels. It's just more expensive. I was at Pigmalion in Madrid earlier this year. Probably the best lineup I have ever seen there in my 30 years of going but also the most expensive with most girls asking 500-600, which is almost twice what I paid the last time I was there. But the line up at Vive (RIP) was in line with how Pig used to be as were prices.
It'll be interesting to see how this FKK tour compares to the brothels and bars of Spain. Especially since I do have a preference for Latinas over Romanians.[/QUOTE]I first did an FKK in 2001 ish. I have been in and out of Bangkok since the 90's.
The girls were better looking then? Yes and no. Fashions change and fat asses are in, I'm not a fat ass guy. Even the Thai girls are chunkier. Regardless I can find what I want, even though:
Everything is more expensive. Plus there are more rules with the girls.
But when your old, with time flying by, and you have money to burn, a room full of sub 35 year old naked chicks is a great place to be. Its like walking into billboard in nana when 60 wrigglers are on stage and you can have anyone you want.