FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Kstanb;3077645]No, for the simple reason I was there as a tourist, without any expectation to return soon. I won't see them again, so no point on trying to remember their names.[/QUOTE]Remembering names and including them in reports isn't something just for your benefit. This is a place for sharing useful information for all the people here reading what you write, and field reports that include names are more useful to the readership than ones that don't. Maybe you have no intentions of visiting the place again anytime soon, if ever, but plenty of guys reading do. That's why the best field reporters remember that this place isn't just about them, so they are sure to always include names when and where possible. Help a fellow monger out!

[QUOTE=Maxime;3077706]Thanks for the extensive report. Sharks is a nice club, and that you experience the GFE service is much less than escorts, says enough. Compared to many other FKK / Saunaclubs, Sharks is not the place to be if up you look for the best service in the room. Try visit Globe or Aphro (as stated here fore) and see how it goes there (also there the service has declined compared to 10 years ago, but still). Also anal is on the menu there (but be ready to pay big bucks for it there!

In Germany you can find good service providers also, but avoid the large tourist traps like Sharks. Better go to smaller clubs or even the clubs in Dutch Limburg (close to the German border). If you want real porn service, BB sex (sometimes also A-level) go to the small RTCs (see other thread). Don't expect foto models there, but no upselling or princess attitude there from the girls.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]Some of us want optics. Sharks is on the whole the best in Europe if you are passing thru based on all the reports all over the net.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3077728]Remembering names and including them in reports isn't something just for your benefit. This is a place for sharing useful information for all the people here reading what you write, and field reports that include names are more useful to the readership than ones that don't. Maybe you have no intentions of visiting the place again anytime soon, if ever, but plenty of guys reading do. That's why the best field reporters remember that this place isn't just about them, so they are sure to always include names when and where possible. Help a fellow monger out![/QUOTE]In my umpteen number of years here I have rejected the concept of naming names, unless it was bad.

All of these interactions are ymmv. Add the fantasy level from reporters who think some girl milking them for cash is actually in love and IMHO, chasing a girl based on reports is silly.

Especially when looks are ymmv too.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3077745]In my umpteen number of years here I have rejected the concept of naming names, unless it was bad. All of these interactions are ymmv. Add the fantasy level from reporters who think some girl milking them for cash is actually in love and IMHO, chasing a girl based on reports is silly. Especially when looks are ymmv too.[/QUOTE]Who said anything about chasing after a girl based on somebody else's reports? Of course that's silly! In fact, my style is quite literally that of a "non-chaser", meaning I don't approach too many girls. They mostly approach me. No, I'm all about getting out there and making my own memories versus trying to chase after somebody else's. But still, having some names can be just some plain good info to have in your back pocket. Why? Well, you make my case with regard to poor performers and just plain rude hoors. Having those names can help a monger keep his guard up when he runs into a perpetual "offender". I remember when I first started going to FKKs, and "Alexandra" the fake Egyptian (I'm convinced she was fake) was plying her wares at Palace. Because I had been reading here, when I got to Palace and she approached me, I knew who I was dealing with, and therefore prepared to handle her bullshit. At the same time, knowing the names of girls who have been repeatedly mentioned as being "hot" and "great performers" is quite useful too, even to a "non-chaser" like me. So, as another example, when I was still relatively new to the FKK scene, and the oft mentioned "Marketa" who was at Artemis approached me, I knew that I was talking to someone who had been getting stellar reviews on this site, and that was a basis for me to perk up and give her some extra added consideration.

Now, just because somebody gets high marks in the reviews of others doesn't mean I'm going to take them. But, it can and does impact how much attention I'm willing to give them, at least in the beginning. So you see, this is all a little more complex than you're trying to make it out to be. Know what the names are so that you can then go chase after that girl because somebody else had a good experience with her? No, no, no! That's not what I'm talking about at all. If somebody wants to be "silly" and use knowing the names that way have at it! But, that's not the value that I, again a "non-chaser", get from knowing names. Knowing names is helpful to a guy like me too for the kinds of reasons I've already stated. They're simply additional data points that you can use to help you make a decision regarding choosing to deal with and / or session with a particular girl or not. I don't try to memorize the names from reports or write them down, or anything like that. It's just that if a name gets repeatedly mentioned for whatever reason, well my memory is still very good, and I will hold what I recall stated about the person in my mind, both the good and any bad while of course understanding that YMMV. Just because somebody else had a good session with a girl doesn't mean I will too. And just because they had a bad experience doesn't automatically translate over to me either. It's just that I find that having more information about who you're talking to is better than having less if you can remember the name and what was said about the girl. That's all. Because generally speaking I definitely do not chase a lot.

[QUOTE=Maxime;3077706]Thanks for the extensive report. Sharks is a nice club, and that you experience the GFE service is much less than escorts, says enough. Compared to many other FKK / Saunaclubs, Sharks is not the place to be if up you look for the best service in the room. Try visit Globe or Aphro (as stated here fore) and see how it goes there (also there the service has declined compared to 10 years ago, but still). Also anal is on the menu there (but be ready to pay big bucks for it there!

Enjoy![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3077743]Some of us want optics. Sharks is on the whole the best in Europe if you are passing thru based on all the reports all over the net.[/QUOTE]As someone who travels around the German speaking FKK world regularly, I'd agree that Sharks isn't always the best for service, also it's clearly not the worst. The smaller clubs can be better because many exist in places with fewer tourists. The more you rely on locals, the more often you have to remember to be nice. That said, I've had some of the best rooms in Sharks and plenty of average ones. I would disagree about putting service at Globe above Sharks, at least my experience. The ladies tend to flock to locals.

I believe that Nyezhov is right, again not because Sharks hires the best, but simply volume. You get 75 -100 girls in a room, you expect a few good lookers, you get 10 - 15 and you can be really picky about the overall quality and even if 10% of the girls are amazing. Do the math.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3077615]From my experience in FKKs since 2013, I had many very GFE Romanians and at Sharks, even when was 50 per 30. We get from girls, from what we are.[/QUOTE]In your case because you are there alot. You know all the girls and they know you. But for somebody who goes there once or twice it is impossible to know who is who.

So that leads to less GFE. The girls are pretty and I enjoyed their tight little pussies.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3077722]Many do. I'll be in sharks next month and will report.[/QUOTE]I asked for anal from all of them but was successful with only 2. I was willing to pay too.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3077670]Even paying, but I can t have sex with a piece of meat, without having a name and introducing, even not meaning to get the truth, but for the image of the girl. If I don't have a good image, vulgar from example, then I don t go with this girl. I stopped with regulars when I saw bad image.[/QUOTE]I did asked their names and I introduced myself and had some polite conversation before going into business.

But there were 10 days between the trip and the report. I just simply can't remember their (fake) names. I would had included them if I did.

As for how to get into GFE if you don't know the girls: It is not bullet proof, but sometimes by talking to them you would see if they are or not. Little details like how she smile or if she looks bored or uninterested can give you hints if you will like the session. The most gorgeous woman is not necessarily the best sex

Of course nothing compares to been a local and having the time to meet and filter the good ones, but there are no FKKs in my country, so not possible for me

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3077806]
I believe that Nyezhov is right, again not because Sharks hires the best, but simply volume. You get 75 -100 girls in a room, you expect a few good lookers, you get 10 - 15 and you can be really picky about the overall quality and even if 10% of the girls are amazing. Do the math.[/QUOTE]I agree, with 2 famous quotes:

"quantity has a quality of its own"; and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder":

We all have different tastes in women and in the expected services, by having more options it is simply easier to get what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3077771]Who said anything about chasing after a girl based on somebody else's reports? Of course that's silly! In fact, my style is quite literally that of a "non-chaser", meaning I don't approach too many girls. They mostly approach me. No, I'm all about getting out there and making my own memories versus trying to chase after somebody else's. But still, having some names can be just some plain good info to have in your back pocket. Why? Well, you make my case with regard to poor performers and just plain rude hoors. Having those names can help a monger keep his guard up when he runs into a perpetual "offender". I remember when I first started going to FKKs, and "Alexandra" the fake Egyptian (I'm convinced she was fake) was plying her wares at Palace. Because I had been reading here, when I got to Palace and she approached me, I knew who I was dealing with, and therefore prepared to handle her bullshit. At the same time, knowing the names of girls who have been repeatedly mentioned as being "hot" and "great performers" is quite useful too, even to a "non-chaser" like me. So, as another example, when I was still relatively new to the FKK scene, and the oft mentioned "Marketa" who was at Artemis approached me, I knew that I was talking to someone who had been getting stellar reviews on this site, and that was a basis for me to perk up and give her some extra added consideration..[/QUOTE]You are a long time respected poster, but I think you misinterpret the situation I am referring to. Because of your experience you may use a name as a data point, that's fine. Others however, surf these forums just for names, so if someone says, I had a great room with evalita, ok, that's it lets gooo get her. On the day you show up, she had a fight with her pimp and hates men.

Go over to the bkk forum to see folks chasing after the elusive pim at sunshine shop on soi 33, no wait she's giving bjs at kasolong and she's fat and 45.

One of the forums posts sharks line ups and a map. Wonderful. It comes in handy.

But there was a girl named everywhere as being hot, total GFE, no upsell, deep throat gazing deep into your eyes as you pleasured her, blah blah blah. So I looked for her and she had a butt bigger than Cardi be. I vomited my cheese Danish and machine coffee in my mouth.

You also have to consider that IMHO, a good number of reports of sessions contain a fantasy element. I've been on this and other forums for as long as they have existed and can easily tell who is a bullshit fantasy writer, immediately. Not you BTW.

As to me, I don't name names or (numbers like in bkk) because I am an optifucker that has a specific look in mind, unless its bad or unusual.

[QUOTE=Kstanb;3077892]I agree, with 2 famous quotes:

"quantity has a quality of its own"; and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder":

We all have different tastes in women and in the expected services, by having more options it is simply easier to get what you are looking for.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Kstanb;3077888]I did asked their names and I introduced myself and had some polite conversation before going into business.

But there were 10 days between the trip and the report. I just simply can't remember their (fake) names. I would had included them if I did.

As for how to get into GFE if you don't know the girls: It is not bullet proof, but sometimes by talking to them you would see if they are or not. Little details like how she smile or if she looks bored or uninterested can give you hints if you will like the session. The most gorgeous woman is not necessarily the best sex

Of course nothing compares to been a local and having the time to meet and filter the good ones, but there are no FKKs in my country, so not possible for me[/QUOTE]Thats the thing. You want GFE, pay for it. Folks that treat these ladies like gfs are just more easily fooled tricks.

There is a reason that's the term, trick. And then they brag about how they make love to some girl who sees the as an easy ATM.

In my early days of going to FKKs i.e. the years leading up to 2010 and a few years after I used to rely heavily on ISG posts for my visits. The reliance was not for the looks of girls obviously as I can see them for myself but for their performance. Girls who were recommended by guys for good service never disappointed me. I sometimes went with girls who were not recommended (mainly because they were hot) and more often than not the posters were correct. In those days posts detailing names and level of service were abundant (not like today). Special mention to Syriges for those sterling trip reports (he's no longer on ISG). There were others but I can't remember their names now.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3077771]Who said anything about chasing after a girl based on somebody else's reports? Of course that's silly! In fact, my style is quite literally that of a "non-chaser", meaning I don't approach too many girls. They mostly approach me. No, I'm all about getting out there and making my own memories versus trying to chase after somebody else's. But still, having some names can be just some plain good info to have in your back pocket. Why? Well, you make my case with regard to poor performers and just plain rude hoors. Having those names can help a monger keep his guard up when he runs into a perpetual "offender". I remember when I first started going to FKKs, and "Alexandra" the fake Egyptian (I'm convinced she was fake) was plying her wares at Palace. Because I had been reading here, when I got to Palace and she approached me, I knew who I was dealing with, and therefore prepared to handle her bullshit. At the same time, knowing the names of girls who have been repeatedly mentioned as being "hot" and "great performers" is quite useful too, even to a "non-chaser" like me. So, as another example, when I was still relatively new to the FKK scene, and the oft mentioned "Marketa" who was at Artemis approached me, I knew that I was talking to someone who had been getting stellar reviews on this site, and that was a basis for me to perk up and give her some extra added consideration.

Now, just because somebody gets high marks in the reviews of others doesn't mean I'm going to take them. But, it can and does impact how much attention I'm willing to give them, at least in the beginning. So you see, this is all a little more complex than you're trying to make it out to be. Know what the names are so that you can then go chase after that girl because somebody else had a good experience with her? No, no, no! That's not what I'm talking about at all. If somebody wants to be "silly" and use knowing the names that way have at it! But, that's not the value that I, again a "non-chaser", get from knowing names. Knowing names is helpful to a guy like me too for the kinds of reasons I've already stated. They're simply additional data points that you can use to help you make a decision regarding choosing to deal with and / or session with a particular girl or not. I don't try to memorize the names from reports or write them down, or anything like that. It's just that if a name gets repeatedly mentioned for whatever reason, well my memory is still very good, and I will hold what I recall stated about the person in my mind, both the good and any bad while of course understanding that YMMV. Just because somebody else had a good session with a girl doesn't mean I will too. And just because they had a bad experience doesn't automatically translate over to me either. It's just that I find that having more information about who you're talking to is better than having less if you can remember the name and what was said about the girl. That's all. Because generally speaking I definitely do not chase a lot.[/QUOTE]I second The Cane on this issue.

I am an Optifucker too but naming girls also I find very useful in a review. Trip reports without names I generally skip reading.

On the German forums it is an industry. They have sub-categories of reviews for the girls.

Howie.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3077810]I asked for anal from all of them but was successful with only 2. I was willing to pay too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;3077947]In my early days of going to FKKs i.e. the years leading up to 2010 and a few years after I used to rely heavily on ISG posts for my visits. The reliance was not for the looks of girls obviously as I can see them for myself but for their performance. Girls who were recommended by guys for good service never disappointed me. I sometimes went with girls who were not recommended (mainly because they were hot) and more often than not the posters were correct. In those days posts detailing names and level of service were abundant (not like today). Special mention to Syriges for those sterling trip reports (he's no longer on ISG). There were others but I can't remember their names now.[/QUOTE]The anal thing is luck and "Adar" (gaydar for gay, radar for subs, adar for ass?) I find it pretty easily, but if I ask, I'm done. I don't usually go twice in one night, so 2 is 1 more than I need.

The numbers gamet. As I said way down in this Forum, you have a better chance of everything if there are 100 girls. Back to the core of these comments, Name names. Yeah, name names. If you want to write you had a good time and your fantasies, then at least add some data. Night, # girls, ratio girls to men. Pretty much everything else is YMMV. For all I know every lady that a regular poster here claims is a model could look like a cow. BUT TO HIM she's a 9. Fine. Don't care. But tell me that Raquel gives deep throat and endlessly loves to be pounded, I'll make my own judgement about her looks.

[QUOTE=Howie;3077966]I second The Cane on this issue. am an Optifucker too but naming girls also I find very useful in a review. Trip reports without names I generally skip reading.
On the German forums it is an industry. They have sub-categories of reviews for the girls. Howie.[/QUOTE]

I once reported on a German language forum that a certain plump girl kept hounding me all night. I got taken to task for not saying her name- and I didn't even room with her.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3077971]

The anal thing is luck and "Adar" (gaydar for gay, radar for subs, adar for ass?) [/QUOTE]What is this mean??