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[quote=adindas; 1213972]i do not think you could escape so easily, at least you need to pay for their travel, taxi.

also be aware, some escorts do work for agents, pimps, etc. in this case they might force you to pay the whole fee. otherwise you will have the trouble.

i used to travel quite a lot in the past. i have been places that you have mentioned but now i limit my travels due to the fact that nowadays i could find the same rate or even cheaper here in the uk. why bother. also the problem with traveling abroad is that, you need to take your annual leave. also there is a limit of your stamina what you could do in a week or so. you go to germany flat-rate style bordello, and do the whole days, you do 3-4 babes in a day in rld or german style fkk, after 2-3 days you will be running out of energy.

in the uk you could do it whenever you want more slower phase and more relax.

i used to live in nw. in manchester and nw region in general, you could easily find young english babes that offer services for gbp 45-60 for half hour. you could even find a massage parlour that offer gbp35 for half hour. they are oridinary young teens, gals, who want to have newest gadgets, luxiries but realize that they could not effort it just by working in the supermarkets, as a receptionist, etc. so quickest ways to earn cash, escorts.[/quote]i agree with many off your points. however as for me atm i am based in scotland and via websites such as adultwork for me personally i do not see quality looking girls that you get in london or frankfurt or prague. on indipendant escort agency websites there are some very attractive looking girls on the websites pics if genuine. however, they are from 100 quid for 30mins to over 150-200 for 60 mins. whereas a better looking girl is only 30-50 euros abroad it makes this impossible for me to pay despite the convience.

there are cheaper alterantives but as they say you get what you pay for. perhaps in london, manchester, the big english cities you can get very attractive girls for 20-30 or 60mins cheap and quality service but not here as far as i can see.

off course the cons of travel= cost of flights / hotel, holiday time, excseeive sex in short time period. so its really not so great either.

its a shame we don't have similar prostiution set up here as germany? or maybe i need to move city but i'm not going to do that.

also, i feel more embarassed and personally don't like to use prostitutes at home whilst i see and hear my fellow young peers seem to have sex for 'free'. i also really dislike brothels / saunas which seems to be the best option in terms of price / quality. i hear many attractive eastern euro girls work saunas but not see many or any at all on adultwork strangely? for me i just won't use saunas here. its not an option.

so, i'm unsure what to do?

and you would agree visiting an escort at her flat is pretty much safe bet? compared to outcall? though outcall is also safe i'm just extra paranoid?

Hi all,

Just after a quick visit in London and wanted to warn you all from using this company:

[url]http://www.vipasianparadise.co.uk/index.html[/url]

Its a total rip off.

The girls on the ads have fake picture and when I entered the appartment the girl started upselling everything!

Don't waste your time on them. Watch out!

Thanks Face Man, lot of good informations there.

I notice some of the adultwork links already broken. Seem the woman does not stay long, transient?

Shame, there was some you fucked in East End, blonde with tongue technique who looked amazing. Maybe you have her number?

The anal one you mentioned: [url]http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1325966[/url]

Seem like pure filth, I am tempted to fuck her!

edit: I looked more and noticed a trend:

- lots of MILFs or fat chicks with good ratings

- lots of East Euro hotties (slim to average) with no ratings. A real "punt"

- even one house of 5 women who all allow bareback! Even BB anal! lol. I get the feeling that they are trafficked women, why would they just offer bareback for so cheap or even no extra cost, doesn't make any sense.

You could easily recognise, the pictures of ladies on the website have been airburshed / photoshoped in a large extend.
How could people have so perfect silky skin .....????
It might also be taken from other commercial websites.

This is already the first signal. Unless they have got very good feedbacks in the past, this escort service should have been avoided in the first instance.

[QUOTE=Jango12; 1214175]Hi all,

Just after a quick visit in London and wanted to warn you all from using this company:

[url]http://www.vipasianparadise.co.uk/index.html[/url]

Its a total rip off.

The girls on the ads have fake picture and when I entered the appartment the girl started upselling everything!

Don't waste your time on them. Watch out![/QUOTE]

i was in london for a few days this week, and had hoped to visit a party, but just couldn't get the time off. only managed one hour free time, and took a walk around soho in the pissing rain last thursday night 3/11/11.

now i have been to soho loads of times over the years, last time being 2006 and i know the score there with the scams and clip joints and all that. i have never done a walk up hooker there, so i thought i might try that. i had a budget of 30 pound in mind with licking her holes included for a 10 or 15 minute quickie. due to the fact that i am off to germany tomorrow, i wasn't too fussed on whether i got action or not. called to see 5 women in total, all in the upstairs flats that had model written on them right around the heart of soho. all were foreign ladies and all fuckable for sure. had any of those women been working in the type of flat rate environment that i used to in germany i would gladly fuck them. cheapest quote i could get for a very short quickie including licking her holes was £50 pound, and one girl declined the licking! they also quoted £20 for a quick covered blow, and £30 for a quickie fuck. in the end i declined.

i did decide to try the peep show in tisbury court. last time i went in there in 2006, and i recall the girl being horrible looking. went into the cubicle and popped my 2 pound in the slot, and was very surprised at the beautiful blonde at the other side of the window. i mean this girl was cracking hot. she looked russian, blonde late 20's with lovely curves, and great perky titten. she enthusiastically pushed her pussy and anus into the window. i felt myself get stiff, but the 2 pound lasts only around a minute or less. popped another 2 pound into the slot, and started wanking. had only had a few tugs at my cock, before the show was over again. decided i wasnt going to waste 20 quid or more wanking to a girl behind a screen, reckoned i'd wait till i got back to the hotel and do my pulling in the bath there. the bloke behind the counter was russian btw.

i had a look into the revue bar next door, which i was sure was a clip joint. i had read recent reports on other forums that the clip joints are all supposed to be shut down in soho now. there was an old russian sounding lady of around 60 behind the counter, who invited me in for 5 pound.

i said: "i think this is a clip joint?"

her in reasonable english: "was clip joint before but now is honest strip club, only pay 5 pound to entry"

me: "yeah thats what they used to say before too, i still think its a clip joint"

her: "i tell you, not clip joint now, honest business now"

she then pointed to a visa and mastercard sign on the wall and said "if we was clipjoint, we no take credit card. please come inside or go away, up to you?"

i then went to take a photo of the place with my phone and she went beserk and started shouting at me. i put my phone away in case some heavy would come out and cause hassle. then a few young guys came along and paid their fiver in, and walked down the stairs. they certainly didn't look like they were attached to the club in anyway. now if this was a clip joint, it would only take 10 or 15 minutes before the heavies in the club would be looking for hundred of pounds, and the young guys would then be marched to an atm or whatever. so i decided to wait around and see if the guys would come out of the club, either alone and upset looking or in the company of heavies, but after 20 minutes of waiting, they never came out. also 2 more guys paid in that 20 minutes. in the end i got fed up standing in the rain and just left.

so maybe the revue club on tisbury court is a now a regular strip club and not a clip joint. can anybody confirm????

also the drinks menu on the window showed reasonable prices, £3 for a coke, and £5 for a beer or so.

the photo below shows the both the peep show and the revue bar next door that may be still be a clip joint?

[url]http://static.whoseview.com/files/1272490382071img0751101242.png[/url]

I did her about two weeks ago. The picture are hers. But it was probably taken a few year ago. Nowadays she looks older has got a shaggy belly but still attractive and shaggable. For GBP60 an hour you could come twice.

I did not try anal as it was not my cup of tea. She is living together with her other friends from Hungary just a walking distance from Dorris Hills Station.

TBH her service is not very good (just an avarage mI will say) as she does not allow kissing and and some other things that other escorst that I have tried will normally allow.

[QUOTE=Cock Sure; 1214209]Thanks Face Man, lot of good informations there.

I notice some of the adultwork links already broken. Seem the woman does not stay long, transient?

Shame, there was some you fucked in East End, blonde with tongue technique who looked amazing. Maybe you have her number?

The anal one you mentioned:

[url]http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1325966[/url]

Seem like pure filth, I am tempted to fuck her![/QUOTE]

Face Man.

Probably I need to make it clear, in my previous opnion about pimping and body guard is applicable when we invite a girl to visit us in a flat / hotel (So outcall for the ladies to our place not incall).

If I visit a lady in her flat and she does not look similar to the picture shown on the website, I could easily and comfortably walk away. What I normally do is that I usually print the picture from the AW website before visitng. So if she does not look like in the website I show her the picture and explain I want to meet this lady and walk away.

[QUOTE=Face Man; 1214167]This is what you should do if you are visiting her :

When you ring the door bell and she opens the door, the girl will always be hiding behind the door so that a passerby can't see her dressed in her underwear. Therefore quickly walk in and let her close the door. Then she can relax and you have a chance to have a look at her. If you are going to leave, now is the time to do it. No pimp is going to run after you demanding money, as the last thing they want is the neighbours finding out. Obviously if you move deeper into the property and spend over a minute talking to her and then decide to leave, then they might find that annoying, especially if they have told another punter to ring back in an hour's time because you are coming.

If she is visiting you then you have less options if you wish to pull out. Personally I don't have much experience of this, so maybe someone else can pitch in with their advice. But as I said before, I reckon that the chances of a "bait and switch" scam happening on an outcall are higher than 50/50. In this case you could legitimately cancel, especially if you have warned them at the time of booking that you will do this. But in my experience, if you warn them that you will do this, then they will say that they have someone who looks similar, but who then turns out not to be. I would imagine that if you agree to pay £5 towards a taxi fair, but arrange this at the time of booking then you are presenting yourself as a more reasonable person to deal with.

Overall though, I would say that you can afford to worry a lot less about this subject than you appear to be now. Aren't you worried about the debt crisis?

Face Man[/QUOTE]

common practice if you are still young, good looking and have the body to die for, you could easily find ladies who want to sleep with you for free or will do a one night stand.

but once you have reached 40s but still want to sleep with a teen or hot young blond babe 20s or something i believe you must be a very lucky bloke if you could get one of this type. unless you are a celebrity, well known figure. but again this is still something to do with money and power.

even a very young bloke need to work hard to get one of this kind.

once you have reached 40, i guess the common option is to get a 30s something ladies on the pubs, etc who want to sleep with you for free but very rare for a 20s hot young blond babe.

[quote=super cum 500;1214173]also, i feel more embarassed and personally don't like to use prostitutes at home whilst i see and hear my fellow young peers seem to have sex for 'free'?[/quote]

[QUOTE=Wanking; 1214450]I was in London for a few days this week, and had hoped to visit a party, but just couldn't get the time off. Only managed one hour free time, and took a walk around Soho in the pissing rain last Thursday night 3/11/11.

Now I have been to Soho loads of times over the years...[/QUOTE]Wanking, great report and entertaining too, but your title: An hour in Soho for £4? I thought you would at least have had a handjob!

Face Man

[QUOTE=Cock Sure; 1214209]Thanks Face Man, lot of good informations there.

I notice some of the adultwork links already broken. Seem the woman does not stay long, transient?

Shame, there was some you fucked in East End, blonde with tongue technique who looked amazing. Maybe you have her number?

The anal one you mentioned:

[url]http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1325966[/url]

Seem like pure filth, I am tempted to fuck her!

Edit: I looked more and noticed a trend:

- lots of MILFs or fat chicks with good ratings.

- lots of East Euro hotties (slim to average) with no ratings. A real "punt"

- even one house of 5 women who all allow bareback! Even BB anal! LOL. I get the feeling that they are trafficked women, why would they just offer bareback for so cheap or even no extra cost, doesn't make any sense.[/QUOTE]Cocksure.

Thanks for complementing my post, but just to be clear, I did not post the above link that you referred to.

Face Man

[QUOTE=Adindas; 1214471]Common practice if you are still young, good looking and have the body to die for, you could easily find ladies who want to sleep with you for free or will do a one night stand.

But once you have reached 40s but still want to sleep with a teen or hot young blond babe 20s or something I believe you must be a very lucky bloke if you could get one of this type. Unless you are a celebrity, well known figure. But again this is still something to do with money and power.

Even a very young bloke need to work hard to get one of this kind.

Once you have reached 40, I guess the common option is to get a 30s something ladies on the pubs, etc who want to sleep with you for free but very rare for a 20s hot young blond babe.[/QUOTE]Well I am slim and young and not bad looking, where and how do you get girls these young hot blonde bombshells that just want easy sex and one night stands? This is reality?

I thought most girls especially attractive ones are looking for bfs or partners etc?

Young hot babes from new accesion EU countries are not easily trafficked.

They know their right and have the right to stay in the UK. How could you lure them to come to Britain if they could easily just wake up buy a ticket on line and go.

You will find some of them are even work independently operating from a budget hotel in Zone 3-6. Common pattern is that they come to britain for 1-2 months, back home for holiday break and then come back again.
How come the people who are trafficked could come, go and back again?

If I were to notice that they some chicks were traffiicked I will defenitely report it to authorities ....

Apart from Bareback included, there are a lot of escorts offer bareback for additional GBP10. Mostly are in the range of GBP20. In the past I know quite few englsih babes offer bareback for addtional GBP20. But it all depends on their discretion. Normally they do if the dickhead is not too big.

You get englisih top blond babes for GBP 200 an hour working for an agent. But if you notice sometimes the same person work independently for half or even less. Why ? because half of the money will go to the agent ....

You probably notice nowadays you could get young english blond for GBP70 or even GBP60 an hour in London.

People who do their homework could get it for much less. People do their homeworks will pay less than those who do not.

Some people want to spend time some do not, so entirerily up to people.

[QUOTE=Cock Sure; 1214209]edit: I looked more and noticed a trend:

- lots of MILFs or fat chicks with good ratings.

- lots of East Euro hotties (slim to average) with no ratings. A real "punt"

- even one house of 5 women who all allow bareback! Even BB anal! LOL. I get the feeling that they are trafficked women, why would they just offer bareback for so cheap or even no extra cost, doesn't make any sense. [/QUOTE]

This is contradicting to greater extent of what the normal trafficked women really are.

You could see quite a few programs on the TV and reading from the news.

If you were fully aware about the trafficked women were all about, you would have noticed that the statement below are contradicting to reality of the trafficking.

Traffic women are normally the young girls, not MILFs

Why?

Because these types of young ladies are much easier to become cash cow, easy to be sold, less life experience and more accommodating then MILFs.

Quite often there are non-documented immigrants from non EU countries or from poor countries in Asia such as Cambodia, etc.

I think the best way to prove it is to come there and if you notice there were a sign of trafficking then report it to the Authorities.

I get touch with the advertisement:

'Their only hope is you. '

Therefore, If I were to witness there were a sign of trafficking of the escorts that I have visited I would have reported it to authorities.

In my opinion the rate of the female escorts have not reach equilibrium state in term of economy. The rate could event go lower.
If you notice on AW UK there are a lot of male escorts, who the same service with their female counterparts. But they get less pay …..
They offer the same service but less pay. Ideally in the market force they should get the same rate …
There are more female executive nowadays the ever, also the gap between the female and male salary are narrowing in a greater extents …


[QUOTE=Cock Sure; 1214209]I looked more and noticed a trend:

- lots of MILFs or fat chicks with good ratings.[/QUOTE]

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[url]www.karaboon.co.uk[/url]

Walter

[QUOTE=Adindas; 1215173]If you notice on AW UK there are a lot of male escorts, who the same service with their female counterparts. But they get less pay.

They offer the same service but less pay. Ideally in the market force they should get the same rate.

There are more female executive nowadays the ever, also the gap between the female and male salary are narrowing in a greater extents.[/QUOTE]This subject of Male escorts being paid less seems to really be bothering you!

Just a quick note. The reason they are paid less is basic supply and demand which you touch up upon quite a bit. But the fact of the matter is, there are alot of hornier guys out there looking for women then there are women looking for men. So that alone shows demand for women are more. Secondly very few women need male escorts, the majority of women out there no matter who they are or what they look like can easily go out on a night clubbing in london and pull a guy. Basically we guys in general will almost do anything that walks, especially if its for free.

And regarding the pay differential between women and male executives probably really has no bearing on the issue at all.

The few company female company executives who do use male escorts are probably such a small number it doesn't make any real demand in reality and so the price of male escorts wouldn't rise.

Just my 2 cents.

Again please pardon my rant, I'm not trying to start a debate, just explaining my reasoning for the situation.

Till the next report,

Stay safe and play safe.

Kkreeac