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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1814063] ..... Bear in mind, my examples involved going back to the bar that very night, as soon as possible after the girl changed her mind about doing what she agreed to do in the bar in order to get me to pay her barfine or to do anything else of interest to me for that matter. I was not talking about returning the next day to request a barfine refund for non-performance. But I have gone back the next day to inform the mamasan that she's got a verified scammer working in her bar who is driving paying and potential repeat customers away.
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Snip ... The fault was mine in not getting an unambiguous "yes" reply from her to what would inspire me to pay her barfine in the bar and take her out.[/QUOTE]Catching up on the discussions here. I know this is the Bangkok thread. The same applies everywhere.

About 2 years back I was in the mood and was cruising the gogos in the LK metro area in Pattaya. I usually don't pay gogo barfines. I prefer freelance girls and don't like the buy me drink (BMD) BS that's found in the gogos. That is unless I am in there to only have fun and grab ass and tits, then by all means, I will buy the girl I like a drink or two before moving on to the next place. However, on this particular night, I was looking for some take out. The girl I liked came over after dancing. We made made small talk and went on with all the getting to know you stuff. She seemed ok and easy to talk with so I asked her if she barfines. She said yes. So I said ok, I want to barfine you and then we will go back to my room for boom boom. She agreed. Since the vibe was going well (and looking at the sexy ladies on stage), I suggested we can have a drink together and then we will go to my room. OK. Ordered a drink, then another. Now it's time to go. I called a lady over to pay the tab. My girl says lets go party on walking st. I said not today, we can go party in my room. I have beer, whiskey, etc. She say no, I want to go to walking st first. We can go do this and that and ... I told her no baby, I want to pay the bafine and we can go back to my room for boom boom. I asked her, you want to go change? She got all pissy and insists on going out. That was her chance the get on board and she blew it. I reminded her what we talked about 20 minutes ago so she could see the light and get with the program. But she wanted shit her way (and she wanted to party with MY money) so forget it. By that time, the waitress comes back with the tab. I told her to call mamasan over. Instead a guy comes over. I explained to him what happened and said I asked the girl first if she wants to go with me for boom boom and she agreed. After she agreed, I said ok I will pay the barfine, we can have a drink then go to my room. Now she wants to go to walking st. I told the guy, I am NOT paying a barfine to go party, I wanted to go party in my room. And I don't want to pay for her drinks because now she changed her mind after I asked her to barfine first! I explained that this is not ok with me. They exchanged words for a minute. The guy walks away and went to the counter. I wasn't sure what was going to happen but I waited a few minutes and finished my drink. In just 2 minutes, he brought me back a new tab without her two drinks. That meant she will have to buy her own drinks for reneging on the deal. I paid for my drinks and left. Now mind you, if the guy brought me the original tab, I would have just paid it and left. I'm not going to lose sleep over 300 baht. But it's the principle of the matter. So sometimes things can work in your favor. But you have to say something. The girl was all pissed off and flashing dirty looks as she sat on the other side of the bar. Funny how she is pissed because of her own BS. Now I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that I had been in that gogo a few times already over the last 2 weeks or so and have spent money on the girls. So the staff knew my face. That may have helped the cause.

Because of this type of crap I always screen the girls first. If she is all about BMD and not giving me straight answers to what I want, I cut them loose. This goes for freelance, bar girls, and the occasional gogo girl that I might want to barfine. If more guys would simply let the staff know what happened, things can sometimes work differently for you and the next guy. But you have to ask upfront for what you want. If it goes to shit, tell them before you go. They will understand that they just lost barfine money and perhaps another customer.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1814826]I remember my first Go Go in '89: Queens Castle on Patpong 1. The total tab came to around 1400 or 1500 bt. That included 1 beer, 1 lady drink, the BF, a short time room across the street, and ST. Did I pay too much? 555. The girl was nice. She was my first Asian chick!
[/QUOTE]Damn the 80's. Some of you guys must have had it pretty it good. I didn't start coming to Asia until 4 years ago. And I didn't start doing this stuff until 9 years ago, back in 2006. First time was in Rio. I kinda wish I had started sooner :). But I learned the ropes pretty fast.

Last Saturday had a drink at cowboy. I like to have a drink outside and watch people passing by before calling of in the air-con and having some fun with the girls. I noticed more and more western ladies and backpackers visiting the Soi. At first they are a bit hesitant to enter, have a drink outside and mainly looking confused or judgmental. Some of them dear to go inside to have a look.

I don't mind what they do, as long as I can enjoy my drink and the views. And some of the girls are nice to watch [URL]https://youtu.be/bmbeD9ktWKA[/URL].

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1815303]If I am not visiting a specific girl, at any venue, I would never have a 3 out of 4 success rate in choosing a girl. As you say line ups are not inspiring at all times.

Seeing you don't describe girls very positively, one wonders what caused tou to go there 4 times and pay extra for a bad service. Okay One girl was good enough. Could have booked her again. I.

Anyhow, mystifying that you had 4 visits and stayed 3 times. Why? Your negative impression seems to have arrived very slowly.[/QUOTE]I never saw the same girl in their lineup twice. I returned because of ongoing positive reviews by others. One of those visits was to choose a specific girl that had been recommended highly to me by someone whose opinion I otherwise found to be of value. But she turned out to be one of the impossible to adjust girls.

I love BJ Bars and feel new ones ought to be encouraged and good ones supported whenever possible. Since this was a new one and my first visit was almost immediately after it opened, I was willing to give it an extra shot or two to find their groove, get up to snuff as one might a new restaurant in town. I wouldn't have returned to, say, Lolipop 1 as many times to give it a chance since it has been up and running for ages.

BTW, to another point made by Amjeck, I never saw a Japanese customer entering, exiting or waiting in the lobby of Bit Style any of the times I visited or the several times I've passed by. Has anyone else? But I understand that is supposedly the origin of this BJ Bar's concept.

I spent close to 23 days in Thailand, BKK, Khon Kaen, Udon Thani, Phuket, Hua Hin. Great time and fun with several different ladies. I did not hire anyone since I had a lady almost every place. In BKK, Tinder has a great selection and you can find someone to be be with you in few hours of communicating. I had several ladies. Many 8-9 and one Chinese 5 which I dumped in a Starbucks. (I was the runner).

Hi,

I am coming to South East Asia in January for 3 months. Thailand, Cambodia and The Philippines. Bangkok will be my first stopover for a few days before I move on. I am not really into Soi Cowboy / Nana Go Go Bars, prices attitude and only ST is not a option for me. I much prefer to just sit at a bar, build a rapport with a girl and bar fine her for LT. Boom Boom in the morning before and after breakfast. (I have done this before many times). Whilst looking at the many You Tube video's of Sukhumvit Road I came across Queens Park Plaza. Has anybody got any info on this place, it looks OK, but would appreciate some comments. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1815309]

In 1991, Darling was already in Sukhumvit Soi 12 but could it be there were two of them at the time or did Darling move sometime earlier? [/QUOTE]My office was right next to Robinson's on Silom and I always stayed at Landmark in early 80's. And walked to Darling often. Back then Patpong was the hot spot, never even ventured to Nana or Cowboy Soi. Then as mentioned earlier I stopped visiting for more than a decade.

After many complaints about the bill not being right, CH has implemented a new policy.

Each bill sheet that comes, the customer has sign on it to say he agrees with the number of drinks and their prices. The sheets are then stabled together. At the end, it is totalled up and customer signs again to say he is happy with the total, and to see all the sheets making up the total. I merely count all my drinks and since they are either 160 or 170, I have a very good idea of what the total should be close to. I have not really had any problems, other than once or twice suspecting total seemed wrong (when not keeping track). However any customer can be forgetful if he does not actually count the drinks.

If the girl requests 2 drinks from the waitress, she will check with me. I can either accept or say no, just one drink for the girl.

Hopefully no more scams or suspected scams.

Oom (91?) returned after an absence. Lost weight to go back her sexiest look. Pretty face, small nice tits, but a goer on the bed. Tonight met a girl with flaming red hair and a great body called Mild, a good dancer, on her 1st or 2nd night. Did not BF her, as I had had action earlier already. Overall line up O.K. but not at its absolute best. Paeng and Ging missing, for example.

One night recently saw a couple of Annies girls (I believe) with a customer in CH. One definitely an Annies girl since she said Hello to me.

That's a good change. I didn't have any issues at CH and I ordered 21 drinks total. In every club I make it a point to let the waitresses see me checking the bill every time I get it back so it's known up front I'm monitoring closely.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1815595]That's a good change. I didn't have any issues at CH and I ordered 21 drinks total. In every club I make it a point to let the waitresses see me checking the bill every time I get it back so it's known up front I'm monitoring closely.[/QUOTE]What did you think of CH? 21 drinks in one night or was that over a couple of nights?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1815600]What did you think of CH? 21 drinks in one night or was that over a couple of nights?[/QUOTE]I liked it. Most of the girls were decent. Nice to see them full nude. Comparable to some of the better Pattaya gogo clubs but definitely fewer girls than Pattaya clubs. I hung out with Fein #42. If I remember correctly, the other girls who joined us were #60 and #95. I thought the Baccara girls were better than CH but I prefer the Westernized Asian look over traditional look.

21 in about 2 hours. I was there with 2 Gogo girls from Pattaya.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1815606]I liked it. Most of the girls were decent. Nice to see them full nude. Comparable to some of the better Pattaya gogo clubs but definitely fewer girls than Pattaya clubs. I hung out with Fein #42. If I remember correctly, the other girls who joined us were #60 and #95. I thought the Baccara girls were better than CH but I prefer the Westernized Asian look over traditional look.

21 in about 2 hours. I was there with 2 Gogo girls from Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Only a few girls were totally nude last night, most had little skirts. Lately, they are kind of big and even porky. Watch your check and be sure you collect your change. They've begun to forget coming back with the change. I don't like being hustled like that and I'm not going back.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1815663] Watch your check and be sure you collect your change. They've begun to forget coming back with the change. I don't like being hustled like that and I'm not going back.[/QUOTE]One reason I always buy stuff at 7-11 with 1000 baht bills, I like to have a large variety of bills to pay close to what the bar bill is going to total. Also helps to keep a running tab on what your bill is going to add up in a place that gives you a bill for every drink (vs a new total slip). Once a bar lets customers be overcharged and hustled its almost impossible to get rid of that practice.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1815663]Watch your check and be sure you collect your change. They've begun to forget coming back with the change. [/QUOTE]Had this happen to me at Windmill by a waitress who I didn't recognize. Luckily for me the 2 waitresses who knew me went to confront her at my request. I could see one of them literally yelling at her. I had given the waitress 1000 baht on a 680 baht or so bar tab. I likely would have topped up to 800 baht but because the waitress tried to scam me I took her tip, turned around to the stage and gave the balance of the 1000 baht to 2 gogo girls I knew on stage.

Breadman has a point with the smaller bills. I'll add that I also learned to get the final bill from the waitresses you get along with and has been serving you, if possible, rather than a girl who you are not familiar with.

I didn't return to Windmill after that incident. Left a sour taste in my mouth.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1815663]Only a few girls were totally nude last night, most had little skirts. Lately, they are kind of big and even porky. Watch your check and be sure you collect your change. They've begun to forget coming back with the change. I don't like being hustled like that and I'm not going back.[/QUOTE]I disagree on all points. Last night the number of girls wearing skirts (no panties) and bras was not exceeding the number of naked girls. The exception could be at 7. 30 pm before many of the nude girls have arrived. By 8. 30 was fine and also fine at midnight when I returned for a short time. I don't particularly like girls wearing bras, but some are still hiding quite nice tits

Most girls were slim last night. Very few fatties while I was there in fact can't really remember any at all. Maybe a few with ass bigger than my spec. Nothing horrible. That compares to Mercury bar I also visited where all gogo girls bar 3, had fat asses.

I have never had any problems with the change excepting for a fat mamsan who was fired in the past. Change may arrive slowly sometimes. Okay Doesn't mean it could not happen to someone else.

Interesting how Banana Boi likes the westerned Asian look at Bacarra. I don't and like the real Thai look at CH. There are a few nose jobs and tit jobs but it does not dominate. Hair colouring does not bother me. Weird hair hiding the face does bother me but that is rare. Not as many pretty faces as I would like. The standard did drop since CH first started. Hard to find enough really pretty girls. As long as I can find one or two I am happy. I like how almost all the girls on the stage can be seen from a suitable seat.