Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1825848]I find Climax to be perfectly awful with loud music, too dark (to see the girls), and quite smoky. For me, it is also a huge fire trap with what appears to be only one legitimate exit, which pours into a narrow corridor, followed by an exit to an underground garage. Be aware of your surroundings whilst inside. It's a catastrophe waiting to happen.[/QUOTE]My hotel was located on Soi 11 during my trip to Thailand, and I stopped in on Climax during my first night in Bangkok. I had all of the same concerns you raise and drew the same conclusions. I didn't stay long because on top of everything else you mention, the place was so over crowded and packed to the gills that you could hardly move in there. God forbid there ever be a fire in that place. We'll turn on the TV one morning and learn that lots of people lost their lives! Do they even have fire marshal regulations with enforcement like we have here in the USA? Sometimes you can even see posted signs indicating the maximum occupancy allowed for a place of business, and the bouncers outside often use hand held click counters to keep track of how many patrons have been admitted. Occasionally an official may even show up to make sure that a business is following the occupancy limits.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1825851] God forbid there ever be a fire in that place. We'll turn on the TV one morning and learn that lots of people lost their lives! Do they even have fire marshal regulations with enforcement like we have here in the USA? [/QUOTE]I'm quite sure there are lots of regulations but as alwayse enforcement is something entirely different.

And speaking of fire traps, what about NEP? With those narrow stairs and only one entry / exit to the street? Imagine fire fighters trying to get in while everyone else is stampeding out? That is of course, if any fire engine can manage to get through the eternal traffic jams of Sukhumvit road.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1825848]Thanks Uncle V. I do remember the Sugar Club as one night I walked by and it was empty so did not enter. Perhaps, I was too early. I enjoy SOI 11 quite a bit and live on an even side SOI across on the other side of Suk. For a time, I stayed in an inexpensive hotel on SOI 11. As such, I am acquainted with Oskars though I have never been to Levels. Perhaps tonight.[/QUOTE]I think you'll enjoy Levels. Though the girls are a bit older than I like there too. It's no Ibar / Insomnia. But I think it may be the best of the FL pick up spots on Soi 11.

Sugar does not get going until very late. I think it really almost an after hours type of spot.

I agree with you about Clmax. The place really is kind of a dump and most of the girls there are nothing to write home about. However, I got very lucky the night I was there and pulled a very attractive girl that works at Lords.

Happy hunting!

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1825936]I think you'll enjoy Levels. Though the girls are a bit older than I like there too. It's no Ibar / Insomnia. But I think it may be the best of the FL pick up spots on Soi 11.

Sugar does not get going until very late. I think it really almost an after hours type of spot.

I agree with you about Clmax. The place really is kind of a dump and most of the girls there are nothing to write home about. However, I got very lucky the night I was there and pulled a very attractive girl that works at Lords.

Happy hunting!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Surprised to know that level is still going strong. Definitely it was one of the best club for me till mid 2014. Those were the days when both the rooms used to be packed to capacity on weekend. There use to be more of normal crowed then WG / FL. I have been there and number of time with my regular date Shut doors of Bed club and Q bar added to its popularity. Now I don't see that class of crowed, even the number has thinned down. It seem all want to be crowed is heading to KU DE TA these days cause all the girls I have dated now prefer to fo to KU DE TA instead to going to levels.

I feel really sorry for the club Sugar. I don't know how many time then name and management of that club has changed. Even the level management try to run it as W or WE club (Not sure of name) for few months but they failed to generate enough revenue.

I guess Level is till the king of Soi 11 if you like good music and good ambiance. Hope you enjoy you evening there and write an updated review about the same.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1825848]Also, I received a few requests for contact info for the Mad. girl I wrote about in prior reports. I should have noted that I would only provide contact info to board members who have written reports to the forum. Two of the requests I received had written one to three reports (also asking for contact info), respectively. With such little to go on with these 'members', I am not comfortable providing additional contact details.[/QUOTE]When I once enabled PMs for the general forum, I also found I got too many annoying requests from unknown people. PMs can be a lot of hassle, unless from your buddies. If someone has a question they should ask the forum, rather than a specific person, in my view.

I never share contact details (it's a private thing). It's easier just to state girl's name and where she can be found, in reports. Bargirls and soapy girls tend to have numbers, but I hardly remember most of them.

[QUOTE=FunFilled;1825964]Surprised to know that level is still going strong...I guess Level is till the king of Soi 11 if you like good music and good ambiance. Hope you enjoy you evening there and write an updated review about the same.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. You really do know your BKK club scene! I will have to try those places you mentioned next trip.

It definitely is a WG / FL spot these days. I was a bit surprised as I had heard that it was more of a "normal" club. However there were still a lot of "normal" looking couples and groups there (including farang girls that were mos definitely not working).

Nevertheless, the quality was not all that great. The girls tended to be a bit older 30's and up. Then again maybe I st the bar a bti too high as I was lookign for something like Ibar / Insomnia in Pattaya. I did enjoy myself there and would go back.

Took some pictures of Soi 4 and Nana plaza few months ago. Golden bar below the Nana hotel is no more and hooters has taken over the spot. I still like to spend a night at Soi 4 and Nana plaza. The plaza has changed a lot during the years. The bars at Soi 4 are crowded early afternoon and fun to have a drink and watch the world go by. Later in the night the bars in the plaza fill up.

[URL]https://youtu.be/1H92-XX4i8o[/URL]

Apparently there is a short film on YouTube called Ricochet featuring David Bowie when he was in Bangkok visiting the naughty boy bars during the early 80's.

I should preface my report by first saying that I am not a big night club fan but thought I would stop in Levels Club in the Aloft Hotel at the end of SOI 11. I arrived at approx 10:30 and the crowd was thin except for the outside area. I had retreated outside to find a seat as there are virtually no seats inside unless you are ordering bottle service and reserve a table. I also left the inside portion of the club to escape the incredible din coming from the speakers, which appeared to be everywhere.

There were a few nominally attractive FL's outside and one kept trying to attract my attention. It's unlikely she was anything but a FL as my 'you so handsome' days are in my rear view mirror.

The club gradually filled up with a mixture of expats, random FL's, fat western girls, and what appeared to be quite a few rejects from the extras cast of Hangover II, plus an odd contingent of Iranians or Pakistanis strutting their stuff like it was 1999. By 11:30, I was over and out and slipped down the elevator. Incidentally, I realized while on their outdoor veranda that the Citadines Hotel sits directly across the street. One night I looked at a room there, which faced the street and the noise was deafening. Now I know where it comes from.

For what's it worth, there was no cover at 10:30 though not certain if there is one later in evening.

I also cruised through Oskars across the street. As I noted in another report, it's a decent looking resto type bar. But it seems everytime I visit that there are no places to sit so it's popular. Also, it always seems there are considerably more dudes than gals.

Finally, I decided to check out Sugar Babes a bit more closely. I stood outside peering into the abyss when an attractive blond came over and said the entry fee was 300 baht with one drink included. Since you can't see what's going on inside that was one investment I was not prepared to make.

After this cruise, I returned to my favorite haunts in 7/1. I will be posting a report in next few days.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1826289]Apparently there is a short film on YouTube called Ricochet featuring David Bowie when he was in Bangkok visiting the naughty boy bars during the early 80's.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFrkpZ8i2cI[/URL]

There must be more. But, if so, it probably doesn't make anymore sense than this clip.

It was nice to see Patpong back then. Anybody know which bar that was? It sure looks familiar but I just can't place it.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1826294]I should preface my report by first saying that I am not a big night club fan but thought I would stop in Levels Club in the Aloft Hotel at the end of SOI 11. I arrived at approx 10:30 and the crowd was thin except for the outside area. I had retreated outside to find a seat as there are virtually no seats inside unless you are ordering bottle service and reserve a table. I also left the inside portion of the club to escape the incredible din coming from the speakers, which appeared to be everywhere.

There were a few nominally attractive FL's outside and one kept trying to attract my attention. It's unlikely she was anything but a FL as my 'you so handsome' days are in my rear view mirror.

The club gradually filled up with a mixture of expats, random FL's, fat western girls, and what appeared to be quite a few rejects from the extras cast of Hangover II, plus an odd contingent of Iranians or Pakistanis strutting their stuff like it was 1999. By 11:30, I was over and out and slipped down the elevator. Incidentally, I realized while on their outdoor veranda that the Citadines Hotel sits directly across the street. One night I looked at a room there, which faced the street and the noise was deafening. Now I know where it comes from.

For what's it worth, there was no cover at 10:30 though not certain if there is one later in evening.

I also cruised through Oskars across the street. As I noted in another report, it's a decent looking resto type bar. But it seems everytime I visit that there are no places to sit so it's popular. Also, it always seems there are considerably more dudes than gals.

Finally, I decided to check out Sugar Babes a bit more closely. I stood outside peering into the abyss when an attractive blond came over and said the entry fee was 300 baht with one drink included. Since you can't see what's going on inside that was one investment I was not prepared to make.

After this cruise, I returned to my favorite haunts in 7/1. I will be posting a report in next few days.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report Tomasb. I'm sorry that none of those places seemed to work out for you. But I think you may have had a bit better luck if you had hit them in different order: Oskars to start at 10:30, Levels after midnight, and them Sugar for late-late night (2 AM and after).

Oskars is good earlier then seems to fill up with guys as the girls leave for Levels. The other two don't really get started until very late. As for Levels I am sorry for not warning you that there is a lot of dross that you need to wade through there. But gems can be found.

I too am losing patience for the late night club scene. But, like, John Dillinger said when they asked him why he robbed banks -- "Because that's where the money is" -- I suffer through the Clubs because that's where the best FLs congregate.

I look forward to hearing more about your exploits on 7/1.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1826294]I should preface my report by first saying that I am not a big night club fan but thought I would stop in Levels Club in the Aloft Hotel at the end of SOI 11. I arrived at approx 10:30 and the crowd was thin except for the outside area. I had retreated outside to find a seat as there are virtually no seats inside unless you are ordering bottle service and reserve a table. I also left the inside portion of the club to escape the incredible din coming from the speakers, which appeared to be everywhere.

There were a few nominally attractive FL's outside and one kept trying to attract my attention. It's unlikely she was anything but a FL as my 'you so handsome' days are in my rear view mirror.
[/QUOTE]"Incredible Din" is very typical for a lot of Thai discos, and even music venues like Bangkok Beat has a band too loud and distorted to be really enjoyable for old fuddy duddies like me. My problem is I cannot communicate in extremely noisy environments. Inability to separate sound from different sources. I don't like to monger extremely late at night anyway, rarely going much beyond midnight.

So in general I do not use discos. I have tried them but did not enjoy them much. One girl's favorite disco was one of the very worst for me. (it's not music, it's just thump and noise.

Some friends accompanying me to a bar like Crazy House also complained the music was too loud making the place too unpleasant for them, and therefore they left pretty quickly. I tolerate the loud music at CH (less loud than a disco) but be carefully not to sit in front of thumping speakers these days. The choice of music is far more acceptable to me though, than what we find at the discos. The DJ still spoils it a bit by turning up the thumping bass too much, and blending tracks a bit much.

I guess guys wanting freelancers may find those on the street and in beer gardens, etc. Are not of the highest quality, so then it may be necessary to tolerate clubs or discos.

So its amusing to read your complaints about the incredible din, as I find that applies to so many places in the same way. You just are not cut out to be in those type of places, is my assessment. G Clubs may be much quieter and suit you much better, unless you are trying to save money, of course.

If me, I would look for girls in other places. Temporary bars on the street is a possibility, that I have not yet used extensively. Obvious drawback is that these places are trying to sell drinks, just like any other bar or disco. However, potentially may not chew up too much money and valuable time.

Maybe someone can list some relatively quiet music entertainment venues with freelancers. Not my area of expertise at all.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1826289]Apparently there is a short film on YouTube called Ricochet featuring David Bowie when he was in Bangkok visiting the naughty boy bars during the early 80's.[/QUOTE]I think these should be called "naughty girl bars" just to be clear. I go there for girls, anyway!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1826598]"Incredible Din" is very typical for a lot of Thai discos, and even music venues like Bangkok Beat has a band too loud and distorted to be really enjoyable for old fuddy duddies like me. My problem is I cannot communicate in extremely noisy environments. Inability to separate sound from different sources. I don't like to monger extremely late at night anyway, rarely going much beyond midnight.[/QUOTE]And it's just not entertainment venues that are loud in Thailand. Everywhere, malls, outdoor fairs, even in some nicer restaurants, the music, PA, whatever, is way too loud. Thais seem to be able to block this out. Truthfully I have found this all over the developing world. From Latin America to Asia and I am sure the same is true in Africa. Quiet is the realm of developed nations and it is one of the main things I miss about home.

Stickman from his website refers to these bars as 'naughty boy bars' and used that as the reference point.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1826604]I think these should be called "naughty girl bars" just to be clear. I go there for girls, anyway![/QUOTE]