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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2668938]Did you taste it? Most of the time it is just watered down apple juice, unless you make sure it is not. I make them drink Sang Som on ice just like I drink, and I taste it to be sure.[/QUOTE]I never even realized that the bars tried to hide what they are serving to the girls. Last night I bought 3 lady drinks in Nana (1 mamasan, 2 lady) and the receipt clearly said Coke. Is it different in Pattaya?
I pay for her time, not alcohol.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2669006]I pay for her time, not alcohol.[/QUOTE]You are paying the bar for a particular drink. The bar is giving her a commission on said drink. So it only matters if you intend to get what you actually are paying for. You do not have to buy a drink to get her time.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2669013]You are paying the bar for a particular drink. The bar is giving her a commission on said drink. So it only matters if you intend to get what you actually are paying for. You do not have to buy a drink to get her time.[/QUOTE]Well, I am not just paying for her time. I have wasted a lot of time and money in my day having just "paid for time".
I will pay for her time and 1-2 rather specific acts of sex to take place with her in my room during that time. Sure, I suppose I could just walk up to girls standing or sitting in bars, blurt out what I want without even sitting down and see if I get any taker who will grab her purse and join me that very moment.
Interestingly, I posted a report a while back mentioning a decent looking punter the girls on Soi 7 were by then very familiar with who did just that. Walking up to them to get an ok to take them without buying any drinks for himself or them, that is.
I have no idea if he had included a detail about it needing it to be bareback, BBFS+CIP or as I consider it, Real Sex, the way my negotiation with a girl generally leads. But I assume not. The girls who laughed about him whenever he showed up never mentioned that at least. So for just standard, nothing special, Thai P4P fare, he never got any takers, the girls just made an icky face, turned away from him one by one until he walked away in a huff, alone and with the girls sharing their encounter and laughing at him. I saw him going through those same paces on two different nights.
However, in my case and for what I much prefer be agreed to before I take a girl to start spending that time and paying for it, I find a 200 baht investment or two for her drink and about 20 minutes of my time sitting next to her in a bar to ease her into the idea provides a much different and better outcome than I suspect his ever were with those girls.
In fact, I won't even know if the chemistry would be right for me to enjoy and consider the time and money was well spent with a girl without that 20 minute or so drink, touch, kiss and relax interaction. I know a girl simply saying Yes to my 1-2 requirements within 10 seconds in a bar, a club, restaurant or on the street rarely assures it.
As always for everyone out there, YMMV.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2669006]I never even realized that the bars tried to hide what they are serving to the girls. Last night I bought 3 lady drinks in Nana (1 mamasan, 2 lady) and the receipt clearly said Coke. Is it different in Pattaya?
I pay for her time, not alcohol.[/QUOTE]I remember a few years back when I was visiting Phuket, I heard about this trick (non-alcoholic / weak lady drinks). So I took a sip and yes, it was very weak, almost non alcoholic. I told the waitress to take the drink back and bring a real tequila shot.
In your case, it obviously didn't matter as you bought them cokes. But in my case, I like to buy them alcohol so they'll loosen up and do questionable things with me. Or at the very least lower their guard and have fun. I wanted that party kind of atmosphere, and it isn't fun when you're the only one drinking.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2669006]I never even realized that the bars tried to hide what they are serving to the girls. Last night I bought 3 lady drinks in Nana (1 mamasan, 2 lady) and the receipt clearly said Coke. Is it different in Pattaya?
I pay for her time, not alcohol.[/QUOTE]And the girl who latched onto you was one of the cutest little spinners we saw all evening, I might add.
Assuming she was totally sober while she was all over you in the bar, I too would not have felt a need to get her drunk before taking her nor wanted her to be.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2669052]…In your case, it obviously didn't matter as you bought them cokes. But in my case, I like to buy them alcohol so they'll loosen up and do questionable things with me. Or at the very least lower their guard and have fun. I wanted that party kind of atmosphere, and it isn't fun when you're the only one drinking.[/QUOTE]I see your point of getting them to loosen up. The problem is too much alcohol and they are zero fun. In the case of last night's Coca Cola girl, she might have been too young to be served alcohol.
What's the drinking age in Thailand?
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2669073]I see your point of getting them to loosen up. The problem is too much alcohol and they are zero fun. In the case of last night's Coca Cola girl, she might have been too young to be served alcohol.
What's the drinking age in Thailand?[/QUOTE]I am not sure of the drinking age, but you have to be 20 to work in or go into a bar. 3 years ago was my nephew's first time to Thailand. He was 17 at the time. We went into a gogo on Walking Street and the mamasan chased us around the stage. She said my nephew was not old enough. I said he is 18 (because I thought the age was 18). She said you have to be 20. Since he is big (but has a baby face), we went and bought him a ballcap and I told him that whenever we walk into a place to pull it down over his face. Worked like a charm.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2669073]I see your point of getting them to loosen up. The problem is too much alcohol and they are zero fun. In the case of last night's Coca Cola girl, she might have been too young to be served alcohol.
What's the drinking age in Thailand?[/QUOTE]The drinking age in Thailand is 20. She said she was 20. The girl with me was supposedly 22 and was therefore the voice of authority for what the younger one needed to do regarding check bins and LD commission receipts. Cute.
I have never ordered a LadyDrink for a girl or told her what to order and drink. I just agree or offer to buy her a drink and couldn't care less if she gets straight whiskey or bottled water. It's up to her. I only listen for the 2 LDs in one order scam, "Coke and Tequila" or some variation of it to put a halt to that.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2669073]I see your point of getting them to loosen up. The problem is too much alcohol and they are zero fun. In the case of last night's Coca Cola girl, she might have been too young to be served alcohol.
What's the drinking age in Thailand?[/QUOTE]The legal Drinking age is 20 in Thailand.
I find that it is enforced in the bigger, high profile night clubs. In most bars or restaurants it is not really enforced.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2669088]I am not sure of the drinking age, but you have to be 20 to work in or go into a bar. 3 years ago was my nephew's first time to Thailand. He was 17 at the time. We went into a gogo on Walking Street and the mamasan chased us around the stage. She said my nephew was not old enough. I said he is 18 (because I thought the age was 18). She said you have to be 20. Since he is big (but has a baby face), we went and bought him a ballcap and I told him that whenever we walk into a place to pull it down over his face. Worked like a charm.[/QUOTE]Not quite correct.
The legal drinking age is 20.
However for working, girls only have to be 18 to be able to work in a bar or entertainment venue, including as sex workers.
They can tho actually work in those venues from 16 if they don't serve alcohol or do sex work, IE clearing tables and glasses, delivering food, in kitchens cooking or washing.
I have a friend in a similar situation, who works for a small firm in Europe. He was spending months at a time in Patts even pre covid (working from home was OK in his company). He worked using a VPN to mask his location. He is himself an IT wizz kid, so he probably knew what he was doing.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2665485]I have thought about doing this, because I'm working from home for almost two years now. But I work for a rather small company, and am afraid (or pretty certain actually) that our IT guy can see that I'm logging in from Thailand instead of my own apartment. He might even be able to see that I'm logging in from Pattaya, and that's the last thing I want for obvious reasons.
People who work for a big international company for example are more 'anonymous', and nobody might even notice or care where they are logging in from.
And beside that I'm afraid that the wifi in most hotels in Thailand is too slow or restricted for my company's programs.[/QUOTE]
I had sex again in the morning with the girl I bar-fined last night and she left about 9 am, looking cute in her tiny denim shorts and baseball cap. I went back to sleep for another few hours.
I had a nice English breakfast at a place called The Sports Lounge for just 109 baht, which included a free cup of tea. Proper bacon and a good pork sausage. Just what my stomach craved after all the tom yam and fried rice I've been eating.
My plan was to have a quiet afternoon but at about 3 pm I got itchy feet and decided I didn't want to waste my time in Pattaya. There was only one thing for it. A quick visit to soi 6.
I didn't want to spend too long on soi 6 as I had arranged to meet Sam on Tree Town later. So I did one quick recce down the street and saw a lovely looking girl wearing a tight orange dress outside Where Angels Play, that emphasised her amazing figure. I bought her a drink and she was a lovely girl. She was just 23 and had the kind of fresh-faced innocence I like. She told me she was Vietnamese and she had braces on her teeth. I couldn't resist taking her upstairs. The room was 350 and she asked for 1500 but accepted my usual counter-offer of 1000 plus tip.
Interestingly, I got chatting with the owner, an American guy, and he told me things are picking up. In fact he has employed five new girls in the past few days alone.
My choice of girl led me upstairs to a dark room and we showered together, always a good prelude to sex. She was tall and skinny and had small, pert tits. On the bed we kissed and soon I was sliding in to her tight pussy. I didn't want a long drawn-out session and soon she rode me expertly to a climax as I squeezed her tits.
It was an enjoyable quickie with a pretty young girl.
That evening I met my friend Sam at Blue Sky Bar. There was a birthday party with live music and free food, and we ended up staying there all night. Conversation flowed and so did the lady-drinks.
For most of the night we were joined by two guests. Sam's son was briefly married to a Thai girl and on a previous night he told me about her, describing her as 'the most beautiful girl in Pattaya'. I assumed he was exaggerating as she was family, but when she turned up she was spectacular. She was early 20's and had the face of an angel. In contrast her friend had purple hair and big fake tits.
Interestingly, Sam's daughter-in-law currently works in a beer bar in Tree Town. I won't say which one but it just goes to show that gems can be found, even now. She wasn't a 10/10, she was an 11/10 and had the kind of face you see staring down at you from the billboards that line the motorways in Bangkok.
It was a fun night but I drank too much. At one point the bar gave us free drinks too and I have a hazy recollection that at one point I was dancing with one of the bar-girls to a woman in drag singing Tina Turner. My drinks bill came to 1750 baht but I didn't mind, it had been a great night. Plus I didn't feel under pressure to bar-fine as I'd already had my fun at soi 6.
Incidentally, it was a Friday night and significantly busier than any night I've visited Tree Town. At one point our bar barely had a free seat.
As we parted ways, Sam promised me tomorrow he'd taken me on a tour of Walking Street. I was excited in an investigative sense, but had low expectations as I've read bad things. Stay tuned to find out how it went.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2669124]The legal drinking age is 20.
However for working, girls only have to be 18 to be able to work in a bar or entertainment venue, including as sex workers.
[/QUOTE]It all makes sense now. My Coca Cola girl claimed she was 19 and mamasan confirmed. The bar fine for her was 600 baht, which confirms 19 is old enough for sex work. So delicious, but at that time I needed another couple hours to recover from an earlier session. Timing is everything.
Took a run down to soi 6 today and stopped at Lust and had a 31 y old soi 6 girl with a great ass dance on my dick while I played with her body. I was shocked actually, I guessed her age at around 23. She had a real nice personality to go with a tight pair of shorts without anything under them. These girls do make a decent amount on drinks but the paycheck comes only at the end of the month so they do look for some barfines to keep the money flowing. I hit a few more bars and then went in to do a round with an X Thai Friendly girl who's now back on soi 6 working her magic. We went upstairs and it was a porn star session with deepthroat, rimming and even a bit of anal thrown in. Had a fantastic time. Finished up and went downstairs and bought her a few more drinks. Then the shit hit the fan so to speak, she asked for a shot of tequila and I said yes. She comes back with the shot and I stuck my finger in it and tasted water. I had tested her first few drinks and they were real drinks, why she asked for a shot of water is beyond me. She knew she pissed me off a bit although the extent was diminished with the fantastic session. I do really like the girl and as I'm settling the bill I tell her 'from now on you only do shots of tequila, no more mixed drinks and I will test all of them'. So the money comes and she pushes her tits together and says 'tip for me?
So I counted out some invisible bills and put them between her tits and say 'you drink water you get water for a tip'.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2669273]So I counted out some invisible bills and put them between her tits and say 'you drink water you get water for a tip'.[/QUOTE]Ha ha ha. Perfect! I will remember that one!
Kind of like response to a Prima Dona go go dancer who quoted 3000 baht for ST. I asked her how long and she said 1 hour. I did a quick / approximate calculation and told her that was almost 50 baht per minute. She kind of liked shrugged, so I told her "OK. I'll take 10 minutes."
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