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[QUOTE=Pizdyets]True, but I'll take 'em over any other women in the world... any day of the week.[/QUOTE]Without a doubt. Their quirks, as frustrating as they might be, are easily outweighed by their raw sexuality and talent for being exceedingly caring and sweet when they see their man really needs it.
Besides, they keep you on your toes. I've never met women more capable of making their men perform in every sense of the word.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Well, as usual, I regret starting some controversy...
Since I have no experience with wives or MILF's, I wasn't trying to include them in my "don't trust them" rant, so I have no clue why GT expected me to chime in about how they age quickly after 25 years.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CA Traveler on 16 June 06]It is pretty common knowledge that Russian and Ukrainian women age in "dog years" once they hit, or come close to, 30 years old. After that it is a rare one who can maintain their youthful appearance.[/QUOTE]
Bez, I misattributed that metaphor. That witty remark was made by another seasoned authority, the long gone and much lamented CA Traveler.
But it was so pithy and poetic that naturally I assumed it to have been one of your priceless epigrams. Can you ever forgive me?
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]
Bez, I menstruated. Can you forgive me?
[/QUOTE]
You bastard! You killed un-born Kenny.
Decided to answer my own question and venture forth into the dating. Ru site. Free registration, access to all ads without a fee (if you pay something you can get chat, see videos, put more parameters into search. Like Mamba). One thing nice about this site is that it has less spam and far fewer scam and agency ads, largely because you have to enter the code they show you to start a message thread with anyone.
Seems to mostly attract milfs, although there are younger ones registered. My ad attracted a teeming horde of Moscow milfs. Very few p4p (or advertising as such). It seems to be a mostly legitimate dating site. A great percentage of the ads confirm the sad observation that the local talent ages in dog years, especially after 30. But there are some real gems (not a lot of English spoken, but some. My Russian is barely adequate but enough to get the conversation started.) Two coffee hook-ups so far. The first wanted a new husband NOW, and wanted to call her mother to come meet me. RUN AWAY!
The second. 32, gorgeous, in great shape (a gym rat), very emotional after her husband of 12 years (and bf since school. And she claims, her one and only partner) walked out on her two weeks ago. 20 minutes of irish coffee and ranting about the bastard, then she practically dragged me back to my apartment, then proceded to boink me within an inch of my life for the next 5 hours (fueled by whiskey breaks which only revved her engine more). Revenge sex! Oxuitel'no! She taught that son of a ***** a lesson, all right! I've never felt so used.
I don't know how many like this are in their system. And as I said the great majority that checked out my ad and sent me the request to "poznakomimsya? " confirm the unfortunate stereotype that the years are not always kind to the local zhenskii population (wonder if it's genes or the stunningly unhealthy diet and customs? ). But there are a good number of promising candidates there. I have another meet and greet lined up this afternoon and will let you know if it's in any way as memorable as my last.
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[QUOTE=Bolshaya Shishka]Decided to answer my own question and venture forth into the dating. Ru site. Free registration, access to all ads without a fee (if you pay something you can get chat, see videos, put more parameters into search. Like Mamba). One thing nice about this site is that it has less spam and far fewer scam and agency ads, largely because you have to enter the code they show you to start a message thread with anyone.
Seems to mostly attract milfs, although there are younger ones registered. My ad attracted a teeming horde of Moscow milfs. Very few p4p (or advertising as such). It seems to be a mostly legitimate dating site. A great percentage of the ads confirm the sad observation that the local talent ages in dog years, especially after 30. But there are some real gems (not a lot of English spoken, but some. My Russian is barely adequate but enough to get the conversation started.) Two coffee hook-ups so far. The first wanted a new husband NOW, and wanted to call her mother to come meet me. RUN AWAY!
The second. 32, gorgeous, in great shape (a gym rat), very emotional after her husband of 12 years (and bf since school. And she claims, her one and only partner) walked out on her two weeks ago. 20 minutes of irish coffee and ranting about the bastard, then she practically dragged me back to my apartment, then proceded to boink me within an inch of my life for the next 5 hours (fueled by whiskey breaks which only revved her engine more). Revenge sex! Oxuitel'no! She taught that son of a ***** a lesson, all right! I've never felt so used.
I don't know how many like this are in their system. And as I said the great majority that checked out my ad and sent me the request to "poznakomimsya? " confirm the unfortunate stereotype that the years are not always kind to the local zhenskii population (wonder if it's genes or the stunningly unhealthy diet and customs? ). But there are a good number of promising candidates there. I have another meet and greet lined up this afternoon and will let you know if it's in any way as memorable as my last.
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I'm in the Philippines, but have some work coming up next year in Moscow and was employing the same strategy as adopted well in PH :) to spend some quality time and mamba.ru banned me first for mailing 100 girls at a time and then after cosistant request opened the account again :)
The problem with mamba is one cannot use copy and paste to translate as faced by many folks here, even though i'm learning Russian online but can't read and write for now, so dating.ru is perfect and scored 3 contacts out of 50 send outs. in three days....seems like a good score.
Anyone knows how good bride.ru is....it seems to have the best girls picture wise but 50 dollar set up fee and 50 per month for contacts is too much when there are free sites like mamba and dating.ru.
[url]www.erotic-massage.com[/url] is now offering variable rate pricing for the "polnaya programma" (1 hr. massage + sex). The dyeffki are choosing the price they will work for; starting at 2,000 руб, 2500 or 3000.
This is a major change in pricing, the crisis must be wearing on them.
[QUOTE=Rjunk]1Russian Women Facts & Myths
What I have done here is given this questionnaire to guys living in Russia more than 2 years. Sorry guys, but it does NOT matter now many letters, phone calls or even trips you make here; until you have lived here, there are some things that you are blind to. I guarantee you that if you take a trip to the FSU, you will love it and the people. Try living there, your opinion will change. Maybe a little, maybe a lot.
Because not everyone has the same opinion, I have also included the percentage of guys that have agreed with these opinions...so you can have a better idea.
Questionnaire
Russian women are beautiful. Fact (100%)
The chances of them keeping their looks after the age of 30 are very low. Fact (80%)
Russian women are slim. Fact (100%)
The chances of them keeping their figure after the age of 30 are very low. Fact (80%)
Russian women make excellent life-long partners. Myth (100%)
Russian women are good to have fun with for a short time. Fact (100%)
Russian women are warm, loving, soft-spoken and wonderful creatures. Myth (100%)
Russian women are whiney, over-sensitive, argumentative nymphos. Fact (75%)
Russian women are masters at turning on the charm until they have their claws in you. Fact (100%)
Russian women are pathological liars. Fact (75%)
Any man would be lucky to have a Russian wife. Myth (100%)
Russian women consider themselves to be highly elite, intelligent princesses. Fact (100%)
Russian women are beautiful on the inside. Myth (75%)
Russian women are arrogant, Soviet-thinking prisses. Fact (75%)
Russian women are open. (Meaning they shout, get angry and do and say anything they want.) Fact (80%)
Russian women, so as not to jinx anything, never tell you about their plans or personal life. Fact (75%)
Russian women seem to like sleeping, resting and doing nothing more than most other things. Fact (75%)
Russian women consider alcohol in hand mandatory for activities such as going to restaurants, cafes, friends’ houses, sitting in parks, walking or breathing. Fact (100%)
The above is from [url]www.agencyscams.com[/url] but I agree totally LoL[/QUOTE]
Accurate for all FSU women... but if you find the right nynpho it's like heaven, specially is she is a nice slim teen blondinka in the Russian style menu 18/165/48/1 or aurund that! :D :D :D
This one is not 18, not blonde, but she is exactly what I would like to find in my bed when I wake up. Avaliable in Moscow up to 50 y.o. :p
[url]http://flirt.com.ua/katesova77/[/url]
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Well, funny topic!
Now I will write my opinion (I'm Russian, I live in Moscow)
Russian women are beautiful. Fact (100%)
- I dont think Russians are more beautiful than Italian or Holland girls. When western guys think of Russian girls they recall the most stunning of them, of course, but when I travel in Moscow subway I see ALL of them..
The chances of them keeping their looks after the age of 30 are very low. Fact (80%)
- yes
Russian women are slim. Fact (100%)
- better than Americans.. but not as slim as Asian girls.
The chances of them keeping their figure after the age of 30 are very low. Fact (80%)
- yes
Russian women make excellent life-long partners. Myth (100%)
- it depends..
Russian women are good to have fun with for a short time. Fact (100%)
- it depends..
Russian women are warm, loving, soft-spoken and wonderful creatures. Myth (100%)
- true, if she really likes you.
Russian women are whiney, over-sensitive, argumentative nymphos. Fact (75%)
- hmmm, what is "whiney"? :)
Russian women are masters at turning on the charm until they have their claws in you. Fact (100%)
- probably.. I dont have claws in me yet... :)
Russian women are pathological liars. Fact (75%)
- well... probably yes.
Any man would be lucky to have a Russian wife. Myth (100%)
- even more: not every man wants to have a wife :)
Russian women consider themselves to be highly elite, intelligent princesses. Fact (100%)
- yes! :) It is a common tale among Russian girls that there are the most beautiful women upon Earth.
But actually self-confidence is not a bad thing.
Russian women are beautiful on the inside. Myth (75%)
- it depends..
Russian women are arrogant, Soviet-thinking prisses. Fact (75%)
- this follows from the point where they count themself as princesses. But Soviet-thinking era has nothing to do with this (on the contrary: Soviet people were paying a great respect and interest to foreigners..)
Russian women are open. (Meaning they shout, get angry and do and say anything they want.) Fact (80%)
- yes, but if a girl wants to keep her dignity she wont ask you for sex, money and time.
Russian women, so as not to jinx anything, never tell you about their plans or personal life. Fact (75%)
- it depends on your relation type
Russian women seem to like sleeping, resting and doing nothing more than most other things. Fact (75%)
- just like all other people on our planet :)
Russian women consider alcohol in hand mandatory for activities such as going to restaurants, cafes, friends’ houses, sitting in parks, walking or breathing. Fact (100%)
- only girls with low education level - just because they dont have enough money for restaurants.
Well, actually, I think every man can write the same about women of his nation.. The defferencies are not as big.
Who cares?
I love them all.
[QUOTE=Dymytry]Well, funny topic!
Now I will write my opinion (I'm Russian, I live in Moscow)
Russian women are beautiful. Fact (100%)
- I dont think Russians are more beautiful than Italian or Holland girls. When western guys think of Russian girls they recall the most stunning of them, of course, but when I travel in Moscow subway I see ALL of them..
The chances of them keeping their looks after the age of 30 are very low. Fact (80%)
- yes
Russian women are slim. Fact (100%)
- better than Americans.. but not as slim as Asian girls.
The chances of them keeping their figure after the age of 30 are very low. Fact (80%)
- yes
Russian women make excellent life-long partners. Myth (100%)
- it depends..
Russian women are good to have fun with for a short time. Fact (100%)
- it depends..
Russian women are warm, loving, soft-spoken and wonderful creatures. Myth (100%)
- true, if she really likes you.
Russian women are whiney, over-sensitive, argumentative nymphos. Fact (75%)
- hmmm, what is "whiney"? :)
Russian women are masters at turning on the charm until they have their claws in you. Fact (100%)
- probably.. I dont have claws in me yet... :)
Russian women are pathological liars. Fact (75%)
- well... probably yes.
Any man would be lucky to have a Russian wife. Myth (100%)
- even more: not every man wants to have a wife :)
Russian women consider themselves to be highly elite, intelligent princesses. Fact (100%)
- yes! :) It is a common tale among Russian girls that there are the most beautiful women upon Earth.
But actually self-confidence is not a bad thing.
Russian women are beautiful on the inside. Myth (75%)
- it depends..
Russian women are arrogant, Soviet-thinking prisses. Fact (75%)
- this follows from the point where they count themself as princesses. But Soviet-thinking era has nothing to do with this (on the contrary: Soviet people were paying a great respect and interest to foreigners..)
Russian women are open. (Meaning they shout, get angry and do and say anything they want.) Fact (80%)
- yes, but if a girl wants to keep her dignity she wont ask you for sex, money and time.
Russian women, so as not to jinx anything, never tell you about their plans or personal life. Fact (75%)
- it depends on your relation type
Russian women seem to like sleeping, resting and doing nothing more than most other things. Fact (75%)
- just like all other people on our planet :)
Russian women consider alcohol in hand mandatory for activities such as going to restaurants, cafes, friends’ houses, sitting in parks, walking or breathing. Fact (100%)
- only girls with low education level - just because they dont have enough money for restaurants.
Well, actually, I think every man can write the same about women of his nation.. The defferencies are not as big.[/QUOTE]
Hi Dymytry,
Good to see some native opinion here!
I am living in Moscow for more than 2 years now, and I have to say that I more or less agree with the opinions expressed below. This is a caricature, so yes, there are women here different from that, I would even say that most of my friends are married with really different russian women from what is described below...But still, there is something really true in it that every foreigner I think has experienced once...
Appart from that, I would like to mentioned that a new bar called UGLY COYOTTE has opened in Moscow. The opening night was quite good. Waitress are stunning and all girsl are dancing on the bar itself. Quite fun as a pre-party I would say - but don't stay here the while night.
The Tall Man just ended a 10 plus year marraige to a tall, slender, stunning russian woman. We also new dozens of others couples (American men maarried to a Russian), so I think I can chime in on this one. This report is remarkably accurate!
Now, even after all of this, I still find myself dreaming of visiting and finding another Russian again. Let me tell you that when it is good (relationship) it is every man dream, when it goes South - RUN FOR COVER.
Be safe,
The Tall Man
[QUOTE=Dymytry]Well, funny topic!
Now I will write my opinion (I'm Russian, I live in Moscow)
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Dymytry....I can bet you never been with an Asian women. I have been trying to get dates from Russian women on my coming travel to Moscow and it has been nothing short of a nightmare.
Once you go Asian you never go Caucasian.....or rather you can't, Russian women are exact opposite of Asian women, your last point is what hit me for years [quote]Well, actually, I think every man can write the same about women of his nation.. The defferencies are not as big.[/quote]
It is only true for certain women not all, go to Philippines, Thailand and other Asian countries, women are NOT AT ALL as you mention.
I think Russian women have an air of eliteness among them that they are the daughters of the earth and untouchable. They abruptly call of a chat or talk or correspondence for no good reason...I mean what the FuuCk...they are silly and think not generally of how worlds thinks and reacts...they will make you crazy.
No doubt they are very beautiful but i don't think they could ever come close to been as trustworthy as Asian women IMO.
I'm spending nearly four hours everyday sending mails to almost 100 girls daily to get some contact, lying sometimes even that i'm already in Moscow and all i get is few sentences, good conversation and then boom abrupt end no correspondance...that drives me crazy...it makes me feel inferior and complex to write to another women as i think i have some innate deficiency to deal with these women.
On the contrary to get confidence back i do the same thing with Asian women in dateinasia.com i get mails from Korea to japan to philiphines which makes sense and top that all I'm from India....not the best kind of race to get a date..yet i'm able to get dates and e-mail address and phone number in 100's yes literally 100's than what i'm getting from Russian women.
Its BULL SHIT...i'm frustrated, highly disappointed but i'm happy i tested the water so early...now all i have to do is P4P and not chase some worthless thing in my mind to date a Russian women....ohh i soo love ISG
[QUOTE=Passepartout]Appart from that, I would like to mentioned that a new bar called UGLY COYOTTE has opened in Moscow. The opening night was quite good. Waitress are stunning and all girsl are dancing on the bar itself. Quite fun as a pre-party I would say - but don't stay here the while night.[/QUOTE]
PPT - can you give the coordinates of this new place? Looking for an alternative to your and my standard hangout on Nikolskaya... :) Which, btw, asked Doc Skank and Roger Mellie recently if they had a CLUB CARD! I've been going to Che for a few years now... last couple years solid, spent untold thousands (USD, mind you) there, invited to drunken birthday parties of the doormen, and never once had them mention a club card.
[QUOTE=Pizdyets] I've been going to Che for a few years now... last couple years solid, spent untold thousands (USD, mind you) there, invited to drunken birthday parties of the doormen, and never once had them mention a club card.[/QUOTE]
Regards the report on 'Che'.
i visited 'La Mur' a month ago (15/2 Lubyansky Pr), it was downstairs.
On the ground level was a club called Che.
Would this be the same Che your writing about?
The Che Website saids 10/2 Nikolskaya ul., which is up the road and left??
Maybe its the Twilight Zone.
Anyway La Mur was OK, lots of different girls and well priced.
Certainly not top end but they were fun. It was more real and friendly than some of those glossy fake clubs.
Interestingly, if you walk out of La Mur, walk 20 metres up the road and turn right onto
Maroseyka Ul there were a few girls following men walking past and offering services.
The men were probably just walking home and took it light heartedly. Then there was some guys in a car who honked and yahooed at this other girl just standing there, who just smiled and waved back. So i guess its safe to assume this was some street action about 9.30 pm. About time Moscow had some of this.
I went onto Bordo afterwards (This was another one of my walkabouts - all these clubs are pretty close to each other - sometimes its quicker to walk - if you know where your going) It has restaurant with club, 2 bars. I saw they had a downstairs area but I didn’t investigate that.
The girls flock as you walk in, a little overwhelming. Saw 2 great girls walk past that I made introductions to, but they had a prior customer at the other bar. Not to much else of interest, I didn’t feel like waiting on the girls I liked, so I split.
I walked onto Oh La La (1 Sretenka) This was a great club when I last visited in 2005. I don’t want to be to harsh, but it has changed a lot. Not as busy as it use to be. I believe 911 Petrovka has taken a lot of there customers. Entry was reasonable and beers well priced.
A variety of girls, one I was interested in, but she and the rest of the girls were obsessed with this group of 4 Russians who were completely pissed and dropping 100 rouble notes all over the place. One of the guys passed out and the other guys poured shots of Vodka on his face, and he’ld wake up and swear, then pass out again.
One of the guys was dancing and throwing large bundles of 100 rouble notes in the air and the girls swept up around him. It was quite a comedy act. Apart from those guys there was only 2 other guys in the club.
I was tipping the girls as well. One time I ran out and had to get change at the bar and this one girl had a tandrum at me. A little pushy. There was an air of desperation of a club in its last throws, facing tough times.
Then I tried to speak to the girl I was interested in but she was now only interested in the guy that passed out, trying to wake him. It was a plain weird night. I made a move to move. As I was leaving the girl now motioned me to stay, but I’ld had enough. As I left the 2 young bouncers starting hassling me for tips. I just walked out and onwards. As I say, there was an air of desperation of a club in its last throws, facing tough times.
Was gonna walk onto Shandra, but decided to call it a night. I wish I went to Shandra first as I never did get there that month. I have fond memories of Shandra when it on that side street off lower Tverskaya. That was a great club. I’ve heard there new premises at north central Moscow are quite good. Has anyone been to the new Shandra?? Do tell. And also a little more about Che??
Might I make a complaint as well. Several times in that month I found myself being the only person in a club i.e. 10 – 15 girls and me, I can’t cope with that, it’s a little overwhelming for me. I mean is that something epresentative of my character? being the only guy in a strip club )) How do you think that feels ? Where the hell were you guys? Get out there now and support your local strip club and the guy in the corner that’s probably me. ))
Cheers Nickc
My next report will be on the amazing 911 Petrovka.
[QUOTE=Nickc]
The Che Website saids 10/2 Nikolskaya ul., which is up the road and left??
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I think you were on the other side of Lubyanka, but yeah, they're all in the same 'hood.
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I walked onto Oh La La (1 Sretenka) This was a great club when I last visited in 2005. I don’t want to be to harsh, but it has changed a lot. Not as busy as it use to be.
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It was pretty sad even in 2008, but after a full year of creesis... I shudder at the thought.
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One of the guys passed out and the other guys poured shots of Vodka on his face, and he’ld wake up and swear, then pass out again.
One of the guys was dancing and throwing large bundles of 100 rouble notes in the air and the girls swept up around him. It was quite a comedy act.
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Sounds more entertaining than the strippers!
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As I left the 2 young bouncers starting hassling me for tips. I just walked out and onwards.
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Yeah, this is familiar shit - hitting up the ignorant foreigners for undeserved tips. You played it well.
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And also a little more about Che??
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Unlike all the clubs you mentioned, Che is a 24-hour resto/bar/club. Its main draw is that it's relatively small/compact by Moscow club standards, has good live music most nights until 12:30am or so, offers some of the best Mexican food in town (which sadly isn't saying much at all), has a reasonable crowd even on weeknights, some truly spectacular waitstaff (esp Andrey and Olya!), awesome mojitos which go down like candy, and regularly hosts a number of foreigners and girls who are keen to meet them. Negatives are that you'll feel like "selyodka v banke" (herring in a can) on crowded evenings, that the bartenders will tend to ignore you if you don't have tits (even if they know you), and that you can forget about getting in after 10pm on a weekend unless you're connected or have put down a cash deposit on a table (1500r/person) in advance. In all likelihood, I'll be there tonight. ;)