Bangkok Reports

SmooT hiE,

You believe what you want. If you believe everything is so sinister, so be it. I have a positive attitide and look for evidence and logic. Try to be more serene and less paranoid.

We cannot hope to understand or know all about the experience of another as we were not present.

Bars have well behaved girls and badly behaved girls and newbie girls who don't know how to behave and raunchy girls and shy girls and even scared of being groped girls. Annoying girls yes. Selfish girls are there of course. Honest girls are also there.

We have to assess what types of girls we are dealing with. I have a good time. If I get the wrong type of girl ocassionally, I just move on to the better ones. No big deal. Girls don't all behave in exactly the same way. Most girls I meet are behaving okay Otherwise I would not be there. My biggest problem is only what girls turn out to be dick scared on the bed. Using regular girls avoids that risk.

Likewise bars have a broad range of customers. Stingy or generous. Up tight or laid back relaxed. Aggressive or mild. Those who like girls to come to them or those who like to make their own choice. Those who look down on girls or those who treat them like a human. Clean or stinky. etc. blah blah. Girls evaluate the customer and may behave differently too. Many or most girls know it's useless to come to me unless I gave them the signal. I get pestered by dancing girls fairly rarely. Not so much as I cannot handle. One tactic is I am good at ignoring girls and not making eye contact unless I am really interested in a girl. Also do not go straight into grope mode with girls I have only just met. Even nude girls have to get some level of respect, unless they are acting super raunchy.

The bad fat mamasan was long ago fired. Unfortunately they still have some waitresses that are a bit annoying. That is why I use my special regular short waitress Aem who is totally honest and does not annoy me. A good girl. She can even give hints whether other girls are good character or not.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1833899]Hit a few gogo's, rainbow 3, spankies and Bangkok bunnies. My favorite at rainbow 3 isn't working for the last 3 months and the talent is somewhat lacking. The small stage and being constantly bugged by the staff will make this a club I'll avoid the rest of the trip. Spankies on the other hand is just way too crowded although I do enjoy the atmosphere. I did find an old favorite from last trip still working at Bangkok Bunnies, so that visit paid off. Many attractive girls and having two stages with seats that overlook the action is now a favorite of mine. Will probably check out Nataree later tonight and on the way back swing thru soi cowboy.[/QUOTE]Its a long time since I was in RB3. However I experienced the same constant bugging by waitresses and mamasans to choose a girl, rather than take my time to evaluate them. I never returned since I don't recall any other bars with same level of "bugging". I went to Spankies maybe 3 times. I don't recall the overcrowding problem, right now (bad memory? I did not like the slapping noises, the whole concept of Spankies. Disturbs my ears. Line up of girls a bit small.

BFed two girls from Spankies, different occasions. One was very good. She was vey skinny and braces on teeth. The other had a good body but scammed me in that she got a phone call from another customer or mamasan about her regular showing up, and wanted to return to the bar very quickly. So she wanted my ST to be exceedingly short. That pissed me off. I typically take a long time. The experience was very poor.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1833927]Its a long time since I was in RB3. However I experienced the same constant bugging by waitresses and mamasans to choose a girl, rather than take my time to evaluate them. I never returned since I don't recall any other bars with same level of "bugging". [/QUOTE]On a visit to RB3 a couple of years ago I had a bad experience with a member of the staff also; I am normally quite laidback with the staff, but this night I completely lost my temper. One of the waitress was plain rude and ask me to pick a girl or leave (I had 2 drinks at this point). I shouted to her to "fuck off" and mind her own business. It is very rude to push paying customers to choose a girl from the stage. I sit with my beer the whole night if I want to. On my way out I yelled at the manager to fire this waitress because of rude behavior. Nedless to say I have never enter this bar again. And do not plan to in the future (it was quite bad for line-up anyway). My advise; I understand that sometimes staff is instructed by the bar managers to "push", but as customers it is also our right to draw the line for unacceptable behavior from the staff members. Tell the manager if you are not happy with what is going on.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1832448]But my absolute best experiences with Crazy House girls with regard to barfining them out and getting treated well in the room is when I don't buy a Lady Drink at all (or perhaps one after a barfine deal has already been struck and settled), cover the key interview questions the moment they approach me for the customary naked brush against me at my seat and, assuming they pass the key interview question or two, tell them I want to pay the barfine now and let's go. LOL. IMO, that is a much better way to ensure quality ST service with a Crazy House girl than to go along with their Lady Drink Sucker Collection program and easing into the interview process after their drink arrives.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, it's probably a stupid question, but what are recommended interview questions?

You Blow Job no-condom? Yes / No.

I like to take time for boom-boom, you rush me? Yes / No.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1833899] Also got to talking about tipping, he mentioned if the girl did fantastic service and your going to leave a tip "for her" that you should take it out of the folder and put the money in her hand. This way the tip is hers, not to be split up with the other wait staff. He said if a girl is seen taking money from the folder and putting it in her pocket, she would probably be fired.[/QUOTE]Guys here for a long time may forget that this is not necessarily well known. Leaving tip in the money folder is a tip to shared among the staff, assuming boss is honest and doesn't take it. This applies to other countries as well, not just a Thai thing. Certainly Thai restaurants in other countries and other places non Thai.

In Thailand, if you intend a tip for a specific person it has to be cash put in the hand and usually done without showing everyone what it is or how much. Sometimes guys tip a dancing girl by putting money in her garter or bra if she has one. No need to be shy about that.

I never give a tip on credit card (e. G. In a Thai restaurant OS) as this will likely be taken by the owner and not given to staff. USA maybe different. I don't live there. I always give tips as cash. If in a group, I keep my tip separate form the group money in the middle, as some guys will underpay if there is too much money in the middle. Effectively some western guys steal from the tip money.

In Thailand P4 P, I am always using cash anyway, and I assume most people do.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1833949]I'm sorry, it's probably a stupid question, but what are recommended interview questions?

You Blow Job no-condom? Yes / No.

I like to take time for boom-boom, you rush me? Yes / No.[/QUOTE]"Are you good on the bed?" LOL "Are you good service? "Are you good fun?

Ha ha. I don't have these interview questions, even I can speak to her in Thai. Some girls might have trouble understanding questions in English, or perhaps they have heard same questions so many times.

One assumes the standard questions are: "You kissing, okay?" or "No condom, okay?" or "You take in back door?" LOL I don't bother to ask. My most important question would be "Are you scared of dick, or Anaconda? However quite honestly, I have rarely asked any of these questions. I want girls to be relaxed and fun. Perhaps I should try it to see how girls react.

I guess the girl should answer the questions something like this: "Sometimes Yes, sometimes no, depends on how much I like the customer. YMMV"

The most important question in reality for me is how long does a ST last, or a LT? What time does the girl need to leave? For me ST has to be up to 90 minutes and LT has to be at least 7 hours minimum for me to get value out of it. I can't fuck like a rabbit for many cums in a short time.

I have a license to pay less if girl doesn't deliver full service. How much to dock the fee would be controversial topic. When girls do not negotiate a fee, I already have power to pay according to service level. If she did specify an amount then I might check what she intended to provide for that fee in particular the duration. If she says less than 60 mins then forget it.

Never really thought of asking anything but it was my buddy's first time in Thailand late last night, he arrived at 1 am. Took him for a very short visit of Nana just to see what the scene was, he asked those type of questions "does she kiss? "is she GFE?" etc. Funny thing is once you get the feeling the girl is either comfortable with you (after buying a drink) or so broke that it doesn't matter, she's the one pushing to be barfined. I find it 'amazing' that so many girls are available at the drop of a hat (or 2000 baht) whichever comes first. In the end, if the girl is attractive and I'm horny I'll give her a shot.

There is a strong rumour from Crazy House waitress that owners have bought the Old Dutch restaurant premises next door. Obviously CH expansion is intended some time in the not too distant future.

Crazy House has multiple floors. When busy some girls are dancing on the 2nd floor, e. G. Girls with green numbers. Tends to be older girls or less pretty girls, maybe fatter ones. The best lookers have Orange-red numbers and dance in floor 1. Not sure about yellow number girls. On floor1 girls are also split into the short girls group and the taller girls group. These two groups alternate sets. CH wants best lookers to be on view for customers looking in the front door. That is why the best girls are not dancing on the 2nd floor.

Almost all my girls are from the first floor taller group. From short group I find less girls attractive.

Last night the line up was at its best for Payday. Oom and Ging were there despite no salary for this particular month. I released both these girls to other customers since I wanted to try another girl. Could have been Naen or Jane (both present) however Donut was possibly the tallest girl in the place and also the prettiest, if you like slim, even with teeth braces.

One guy sitting right below the saucy Jane dancing was almost salivating. Donut and I noticed he had his hand in his left pocket and it was shaking. Looked like was wanking himself. He left bar soon after. I expected he would go to the toilet. LOL.

Donut (number 83) was about 21YO, 170 cm tall, slim curvy, high firm Acups. Small face upturned nose. Very cute for me. Rather shy. Beautiful pussy and ass, not just the face. Hard to see a fault except for braces on teeth.

Interview question was whether she was scared of Farangs. She said she particularly liked Farangs and wasn't scared of them any more.

ST was very good, go with the flow, GFE. Light kissing due to braces. No special skills but good attitude to having fun. Light gentle screams / moans during fucking so quite loud during sex. Reacted well to DATY too but I could not get it right to make her cum. Braces made the BJ difficult for her and not a big mouth. No big deal for me. Her pussy was tight but she could take it deep with no problems. No complaints from her and none for me. Doggy got me to cum. Beautiful ass and great feel. Yes definitely repeat, so I collected her contact number. She was on Instagram but not LINE, so I might have to add Instagram to my phone Apps.

Paeng is a similar beauty although a bit shorter, however was missing last night. Seems to have been away for a few days.

I showed up at 8 pm to CH however Donut arrived close to 9. 30 pm. Any later and I might have chosen a different girl. I am aware that the best girls often show up right up till 9. 30 pm. Showing up early allows to get a good seat easily, before it gets too busy. Could have BFed any one of several girls instead if donut did not show, my regulars or try a new one.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1834259]There is a strong rumour from Crazy House waitress that owners have bought the Old Dutch restaurant premises next door. Obviously CH expansion is intended some time in the nit too distant future.
[/QUOTE]This is a smart business move. CH needs more room. They can easily handle the space. Sometimes I have felt cramped in CH sitting along the wall constantly making room for passerbys. There is very little room in certain areas. The 2nd floor is used to handle the overflow especially on Thurs, Fri and Sat. I have seen the mamasan gage the crowd size, determine that conditions are right, and then open up the 2nd floor, ordering some less popular girls upstairs. I have never barfined a 2nd floor girl, but I know a few as my favorite girl(s) each have a couple of 2nd floor friends .

On special nights I have returned to CH after a shag and my favorite girl(s) will suggest we go upstairs where we can party, drink and do more things privately, ha ha. They have lesbian lick lick shows and SM candle dripping shows up there too. It can be entertaining to watch under the right conditions with the right girl taking care of my needs and plenty of Tequila. There is a different atmosphere upstairs, less people, more raunchy, more private, more space, less attractive dancers, but I am ready to go back up again. Can't wait!

Buddy of mine just picked up a cutie from stumble inn, 4 days in town. Didn't know what "barfine" was. Think he hit gold.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1834401]Buddy of mine just picked up a cutie from stumble inn, 4 days in town. Didn't know what "barfine" was. Think he hit gold.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of the girl I met at the bar, brought me a beer with a glass. I asked her: don't you want to drink something yourself?

She went and got another glass for herself. First day of course, unfortunately I was not free to take her.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1833949]I'm sorry, it's probably a stupid question, but what are recommended interview questions?

You Blow Job no-condom? Yes / No.

I like to take time for boom-boom, you rush me? Yes / No.[/QUOTE]It is not a stupid question at all. In fact, although it is rarely addressed here, it is at the crux of the P4 P scene. Different circumstances call for a different approach, but for me the circumstances generally fall into one of these 3. And in all cases it is assumed I am attracted to the girl enough to want to be with her, not just responding to any girl approaching me:

1. I am so smitten by the girl there is no need to ask anything specific because I honestly do not care if the only thing I get out of the experience this time is DATY, as long as I get her out of the bar and into my room where the real chemistry for how much GFE will be had and time will be spent is ultimately established. It happens. In a case like that, I might even be the one to ask if she wants to go barfine before she asks me, which is rare because I would much rather the girl ask me first, and most do. If this particular type of girl asks me first, I still would probably not ask her about anything specific, just pretend to give it some thought and eventually say yes. LOL.

2. It matters what I get in the room tonight, the girl asks me to pay her barfine but she does not bring up an amount of money for her. My interview process would go something like this, keeping it fun and playful:

- Pay your barfine? What will we do in the room?

"Ha ha. Everything. Up to you. "

- Everything, up to me? I like everything, up to me. You do good sa-moke?

"Sa-moke?"

- Blowjob. You give good blowjob, cum in mouth everything, no condom? Will you do that for me?

"Yes, I will do that for you. "

End of interview process. If her response is notably negative, I bail. If it is notably positive, I am in.

I don't ask anything more in this regard unless she brings it up and wants to talk about it more. I now have heard everything of value that I could possibly learn in the bar BECAUSE belaboring the subject longer in the bar accomplishes little and all of the more important matters in terms of how good or how long ANYTHING gets will be established as nature takes its course when we are alone in the room and she has really gotten more comfortable with me. It will not be learned when we are both dealing with a ton of distractions and interruptions in the bar. My question about how she would finish a blowjob is asked only to establish a floor, a fall back position below which I do not want to go if our chemistry, the boom-boom conditions, whatever does not go as well as I want in the room. I may have no intention of going for a blowjob with this girl but I ask the question (that her response elicited, btw) anyway. I wind up boom-booming, my way, girls who give that answer about 65% of the time or more. I go for the blowjob the other 35% of the time. Which is a perfect boom-boom to blowjob ratio for me.

3. It matters what I get in the room tonight, the girl asks me to pay her barfine and at some point brings up an amount of money she wants me to pay her. Some guys take this as a sure sign to bail, the girl bringing up how much money she wants, that is. I used to feel that way too. But I have since learned it is actually a nifty opportunity to get a whole host of important issues hammered down and out of the way long before we get to the room. I welcome it now. Recognize that she has thrown a hardball by citing her dream number baht amount she wants me to give her. So it is time for me to throw a hardball right back. But it won't be a hardball about how much money I will give her. It will be a hardball about the level of pleasure I would expect if I paid her dream amount. It would go something like this:

- 3,000 baht? Hmmm. If I pay a lady 3,000 baht I would need her to (and this is where I ask for the world. Fill in with whatever your best P4 P experience would be; Long Time until noon tomorrow, multiple pops, BB this or that, DFK, shaved pussy, you name it.)

"oh no, I cannot do XYZ. But the other things ok. "

- hmmm. Well, if you don't do XYZ, then I can only give you 2,000 baht. You ok?

"ok"

Maybe it will go back and forth a couple more times until she gets me to another number or she agrees to do something more. But this can still be done playfully and fun. I have had plenty of great, hassle free experiences with very good girls this way because a lot of the stuff I'd rather not have a conversation about in the room has already been settled and now we can work on that chemistry to make it all more relaxed, enjoyable and agreeable.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1834454]It is not a stupid question at all. In fact, although it is rarely addressed here, it is at the crux of the P4 P scene.[/QUOTE]Brilliant advice! I shall print it and carry it in my wallet on my 1st time June visit.

Thanks.

I know this has been mentioned here before, but I can't seem to find the post or posts that refer to the name of the street or area in Bangkok where there are a few go go's and P4P bars primarily for Thai men. I was there once, but it was sometime ago and am thinking of returning to check it out again (with a Thai friend who himself is unfamiliar with the area). Any help with the name of the street or area, as well as any up-to-date information (such as whether it is still there with go go's, etc.) would be appreciated.

Crazy house was a letdown, one smoking hot chick #67 who gave my buddy shitty service. No BJ, no kissing. Rest were average. 9 pm visit, left at 10. Went to the best club I found so far. Bangkok bunnies. Good mix of talent, big enough club, enough eye candy to keep it interesting.