Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=TheCane;2505376]Just remember that Spanish is spoken in all of those countries due to Spain's "colonial attitude". Learn Spanish or else I'll kill you! And give me all your gold while you're at it will you?[/QUOTE]Kind of funny but that's actually true about all the English speaking countries outside Europe as well they also had a colonial Attitude as you put it.

There is a Brazilian Portuguese textbook, Portugûes Básico Para Estrangeiros, that you can buy or find online if you're more academically minded. I used it in a class I took at the local college. It also has CDs. I'm also using Duolingo, which is free, to brush up on my vocabulary and grammar.

Say, can anyone recommend a fun Brazilian TV show to watch, something like Friends?

I wish that the Porta Dos Fundos videos came with Portuguese subtitles, so that I could catch the slang.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2505334]I could not agree more!

I checked out a Brazilian language CDS from my library before I made my first trip, and just listened to them and practiced.

If you sit at your house and social isolate and play video games all day, you can do that much.

Now I've been here in Brazil 27 times as much as 10 months at a time.

I still want to learn better Portuguese! I will probably take a class. The bubba boy guide mentions some choices, like at PUC-Rio. BR.

I think I will start reading some books, like FIM by Torres, or the Porto language version of the subtle art of not giving a fuck.

I've been out at least one of the mongers here who thinks that learning Porto is not required for their travel to Brazil, and it sucks being out with such lame people, whom I've dropped.[/QUOTE]

Day 3.

Sunday, slow day. Most of the massage / prive places being closed. Just enjoyed the Copacabana beach and did some strolling around. At night, based on my positive experience of photoacompanhantes, I wanted to see how far I could go down on price but keeping quality. So I messaged a few girls, and found one asking 120 reals for 1 hour for BBBJ / CIM / Rimming. Took uber down to her place, on 583 Av Nossa de Sra. , late night around 11 PM. The girls I met was thick, both body and brain wise. Not like her photo at all, but that was expected. Also probably a new comer. She straight away ask if I wanted a threesome for 200, I declined. The session was very poor, poor inexperienced blowjob, lame sex, no rimming, no CIM. Finished on her boobs. I guess going from 150 reals to 120 reals made a big drop in quality. I was out in 30 min. Experience comparable to what a Rom will give you for 50 £ in UK. Bad.

Day 4.

After some touristy stuff, decided to check out Eden Spa at 583 Av Nossa Sra. , receptionist using translator says it's 200 reals for 1 hour sex + massage. Led to a small room where girls come one by one for presentation. 5 girls shown. Mostly average. I choose Laeticia, because she was acting really slutty when she introduced herself to me, I thought it was funny. Took shower, then she started with a blowjob, unfortunately she was a "Deep cleaner" : one of those girls who will try to clean the dick in every corner, I just find that annoying so I told her ok do a CBJ. The CBJ was good, although I hate CBJ. Sex in various positions, she took it well, acting slutty and all. Finished on her "sealed" lips again. She then tell me using translator that she had a "pigmentation" of her mouth done last week so her mouth is sensitive. Ok whatever. Then she gave a good 30 min massage to finish off. Took shower and left. Not bad overall, kind a comparable to my favorite place Snow White in BKK.

Evening, decided it was time to try something more expensive rather than budget. So I hooked up with a girl from hotside, she asked 400 reals per hour or 1400 reals pernoite. Was expecting to see a white girl based on her pictures, it turns out to be a very light brown girl, that's even better for me. Very cute and innocent looking. No English, communication was difficult. Anyway proposed her a shot of Double black label, then went to bed. Very good BBBJ, sucking balls, gave her a DATY, good kissing, then when it comes to sex she asks me if I have condom, I said no, she try to find in her bag and can't find. She comes back and suck me again, then asks me if it's ok to fuck without. I said ok. BBFS. Very delicious girl, tried to do a creampie but couldn't, prob due to alcohol / tiredness. Asked her to suck me and finished on her face. She then just lays on bed for a few minutes, asking if I wanted to keep her for the night. I explain her since I am on a 1 month trip, I need to manage my budget, and her pernoite rate will drain my money fast. I did hesitate whether to offer her a lower rate or even accept the 1400. However I find that quite expensive, especially compared to the local average salary, and also compared to Asian rates (I am used to 5000 THB LT at gogo's = about 900 reals). However, based on her offering BBFS (I suspect it was a way for her to make me take the pernoite), I might take the bite and take her for pernoite later in the week.

One note: for the first time in all my trips, I feel speaking Portuguese is a big advantage here in Brazil. Not speaking the language does indeed make things difficult here, both with girls and the daily life. Too bad, however I do already speak 5 languages on a daily basis, and just don't have time / motivation to learn a 6th.

[QUOTE=TrueBlue666;2505554]Oh, it's definitely just a personal taste thing. I just didn't feel the attachment I did to say Bangkok. Communication barriers are a little more pronounced in Rio, even in touristy areas, than say Bangkok as well, where really any venue that wants to do business with foreigners can speak at least the very basics. Rio, while being gorgeous, is also not as safe as I'd like, which prevented me from being willing to really explore on my own. I shouldn't have to feel like I have to "blend" to feel safer. Brazilian girls are often gorgeous, but apparently they did not cure my yellow fever. It also doesn't help that they all seem to be on their own understanding of time and it can be hell trying to land one that matches pictures, even after having them confirm with video over whatsapp (they are some godsdamned photoshop/video alteration wizards). Lastly, I just missed Bangkok's restaurants; Rio's food isn't bad, and the steak is pretty good, but it can't compare to the selection of a larger city that has damn near everything. Yeah, it was cheap, but that's not really unique when you take other popular mongering locales into consideration.

Like I said, none of this is an outright condemnation of Rio, I just wasn't thrilled enough to come back anytime soon. I didn't dislike this trip. I will be trying Europe next due to some recommendations from others, but I fully expect to return to Bangkok at some point, having had many many successful trips there. Still, it's a matter of personal taste, so don't let my words dissuade you from visiting, unless for some odd reason you're just like me.

And again, pay no mind to people saying learn the language blah blah, if you're only coming for a short trip and perhaps never again. No one really cares if you don't speak the language. It presents obvious barriers, but translators have come a long way, especially now that you can just talk into the things without ever typing a word. Generally if you're polite and understanding, people will reciprocate, translator or no.[/QUOTE]Very true, despite only being 5 days of my 3 weeks trips here, I feel exactly the same way as you. Rio will not replace a place like BKK, but it does the job somewhat until this pandemic clears out.

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2505614]

I wish that the Porta Dos Fundos videos came with Portuguese subtitles, so that I could catch the slang.[/QUOTE]Many do. You would need to sift through them, but there are quite a few.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg1gQZ4uIMo[/URL]

[QUOTE=TrueBlue666;2505554]Oh, it's definitely just a personal taste thing. I just didn't feel the attachment I did to say Bangkok. Communication barriers are a little more pronounced in Rio, even in touristy areas, than say Bangkok as well, where really any venue that wants to do business with foreigners can speak at least the very basics. Rio, while being gorgeous, is also not as safe as I'd like, which prevented me from being willing to really explore on my own. I shouldn't have to feel like I have to "blend" to feel safer. Brazilian girls are often gorgeous, but apparently they did not cure my yellow fever. It also doesn't help that they all seem to be on their own understanding of time and it can be hell trying to land one that matches pictures, even after having them confirm with video over whatsapp (they are some godsdamned photoshop/video alteration wizards). Lastly, I just missed Bangkok's restaurants; Rio's food isn't bad, and the steak is pretty good, but it can't compare to the selection of a larger city that has damn near everything. Yeah, it was cheap, but that's not really unique when you take other popular mongering locales into consideration.[/QUOTE]Hey TrueBlue,

I feel the same way except the other way around and like you, its a personal taste thing. For me I'm super attracted to Latinas. I look at Asian women and my dick goes limp. I walk around here in SP, on the streets, in the Metro, in the shopping malls and 80% are fuckable to me. In Asia, maybe 5% on a good day. I hear what you are saying about BKK. Through years of trips, I have slowly but steadily improved my Portuguese to the point where now I can understand 70% - 80% of all communications. I love the reaction of amazement from the girls and their compliment of how good my Portuguese is. Yes, Asian cuisine is better than Brazilian food, but I'm here in Brazil to fuck as many girls as possible. I'm not on a culinary tour. If I wanted to that, I'd go to Hong Kong, Singapore, or even Japan. I do, however, have to agree that Rio is not safe at all. But here in SP, I feel very comfortable walking around, even at night. Put it this way, if I was given the choice of fucking a) an average looking brasileira CBJ and covered sex or b) or a threesome with two model-like Asians BBBJ and BBFS and CIP I would choose the Brazilian 10 out of 10 times. My home country, China, have one of the least attractive women in the world. I wouldn't touch 95% of them even if they offered sex for free. Especially with these new generation of girls nowadays, with them being so superficial and fake.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2505672]Many do. You would need to sift through them, but there are quite a few.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg1gQZ4uIMo[/URL][/QUOTE]I just watched the linked video for the first time in my life (damn I didn't know about this show at all). I understood 95% of what the woman said but the guy, damn, he talked way to fast. I didn't get word by word of what he said but I got the jest of it. And the Portuguese subtitle, does not work very well at all. So many dropped or incorrect words.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2504999]Tourists tend to stick out no matter. Some of the Brazilian attire simply doesn't fit well. My casual clothes from home just look different even when I try to blend in. Most Brazilians seem to have narrower frames. They generally don't have broad shoulders and V shape frames.[/QUOTE]There are always, well, let's call them ill-informed tourists who come to Rio to show off their fancy watches, jewelry, phones and designer outfits. Let them have the first dibs at getting mugged.

I'm not being heartless, but I once talked to a guy who was incredulous when I said how much I loved Rio. He hated it. He got his gold chain ripped off his neck in a broad daylight, minutes after exiting the hotel on Atlantica on his first day. I was like, why the fuck did you go out in Rio wearing a gold chain? To which he told me he's going to do what he's got to do.

Well, OK. But criminals are also going to do what they're going to do. They're going to mug. It's up to reasonable people to modify and adjust their behavior when needed.

I was taught to dress down by other Rio veterans when I just started going down there. I mean, maybe the fact I'd never gotten in trouble after all these years is more than just dumb luck. Or maybe not, who knows.

And yes, cheap sandals are also important. That's your only deterrence against the birdshit mafia because you won't see them coming -- they're THAT good! Still got me on more than one occasion.

Comparing Rio and Bangkok is like comparing apples and oranges. Same thing when comparing rates. You got to luv the bunda to enjoy Rio. And the Rio girls also enjoy anal, Thai girls not so much. Yes, it's a little more difficult finding action in Rio vs Bangkok Now. And it's way too easy to find available girls in Pattaya, where I'm currently. (Insert Grin here.) I enjoy Both countries.

I have booked my flight for 8th January and I must say I am very excited. I have been looking at Apartments on Airbnb to book. Loads of excellent value apartments. You get a discount on Airbnb if you book a whole month.

I have been stuck at home doing nothing all year and saved up a lot of money. Hope to blow it all on hookers.

I am not too keen on visiting establishments these days, I'm too lazy. I prefer ordering girls to my hotel room. It's so exciting, lying on the bed with a rock hard boner in anticipation of that knock on the door.

I have been going to Asia since 2011 multiple times a year. Maybe this covid is a blessing in disguise. I might fall in love with Brazil and S. America in general.

I'm going to take a little side trip to Manaus. I told my mother I'm going trekking in the Amazon for a month. So I need to get some jungly pics.

Please send links to your best Brazilian funk videos, and preferably to somewhere I can download MP3 of the audio files.

So I am here with Skin Kira Noir Diamond, we fucked bare three holes all night, she's smoking weed and watching Netflix which means she must want to fuck again.

If you're paying 400 an hour, realize you could be doing that for diaria.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2505327]I agree with the comment of BMo814.

TrueBlue's attitude is arrogant, and not my taste in how to enjoy Brazil.

I sat across the table from ISG TrueBlue at Mabs on Friday and watched him converse with a GDP by this method of passing a cell phone back and forth, agreeing to a program, and ISG TrueBlue didn't even realize that his GDP choice was a Transvestite -- albeit a very passable Trans. There is a lot more to communication that comes from just a computer in your hand.

In the event, ISG TrueBlue was saved by my girl, ex-4 x4 Fanny, pointing out that his "girl" was a boy with a tit job and a wig. For her vigilance, I tipped her 100 reais, as did ISG TrueBlue. To be fair, it's not his fault, rather the fault of Mab's for not screening the "girls" well enough..[/QUOTE]

13. Date a girl who carries a pistol, like a military police girl, or at least a vagabunda that wears a gold pistol neck chain -- who would fuck with that. Billy Carter, the security guy / investigator for that Lapa Irish Bar does workouts for some of the police girls from centro and they are hot AF, and who doesn't like a girl who carries!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2505331]9. Is a taser / electroshock device.

11. Rehearse common self defense scenarios preferably with a local Brazilian martial arts academy, maybe with your best girlfriend.

A) Here's a scenario: she goes into the kitchen after you have a fight about money. She is going for what reason?

B) You start to fight with a girl. Maybe you want to fuck, and she refuses, and you want her to leave. Things start to get heated. The best thing to do is: A) start filming on your smart phone, including maybe putting the phone in a tripod as you say, I want you to leave ("Quiero vc emborra. " B) empty your pockets of all your money including the $5000 reais at her demand; C) call the cops. Why?

12. As suggested by another monger, only carry money and items that you could lose, eg, I went to VM tonight with 200 reais at most, distributed in 3 wallets. I also agree carrying a burner phone is best, but I need to follow this good advice too. (thanks for those good tips).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2505630]Very true, despite only being 5 days of my 3 weeks trips here, I feel exactly the same way as you. Rio will not replace a place like BKK, but it does the job somewhat until this pandemic clears out.[/QUOTE]For point and click guys like you who are too far gone to interact with a female in any way other than purely transactional, then yes Bangkok Pattaya cannot be substituted.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2505789]For point and click guys like you who are too far gone to interact with a female in any way other than purely transactional, then yes Bangkok Pattaya cannot be substituted.[/QUOTE]I do like to interact with females other than just transactional, in fact I have a couple of Asian GF met that way. I can definitely feel that the Brazilian girls are more open to meeting men, however my lack of Portuguese and their lack of English makes things difficult, for now. Maybe I will change my mind in the next few weeks hopefully.

Day 5.

After nice walk on the beach and some seafood, I was in mood for some quick lolly. I saw this ad: [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/copacabana/promo%C3%A7ao-tres-amigas-1h-180-e-uma-e-apartir-60-id-8m3cq[/URL].

They were advertising promotions, I specifically asked on whatsapp how much for oral without condom and CIM for 30 min with 3 girls, I was replied 100 reals. It's [URL]Clube613.com[/URL] on Djalma Ulrich 163 room 701. I was skeptical about getting a good experience at that price, but then I had taken notes before my trip, and one of the popular poster on this forum had said this place had some of best privé talent in Rio. So I went there relatively confident getting a good experience, I have had many threesomes but never a foursome, so I was looking ahead for this one. Once I got there, about 4 PM, after some struggle to communicate with the receptionist, I was presented with about 5 girls, and there were nothing to write about honestly, except one doable light skin chocolate girl (my preference are brown girls followed by white, not into chocolate girls), the others were frankly not good looking. However since I was here just for a blowjob, I choose the 3 girls (the less ugly ones), and went to the room. They started one by one to give BBBJ, which was ok, then I ask them to suck me at 3 together, which they complied for, although for a short time, but it was ok, one other box ticked from my to do list. As I was getting ready to finish, I asked one of the girl to suck me to completion, they said lips ok but not inside mouth. Not ideal, but that will do it. Suddenly the receptionist bang on the door and tell them time is up. I was there only for 15 min. I explain the girls I paid for 30 min, and showed them the whatsapp text, they said you are right, one of the girl go to the receptionist explaining that I had agreed for 30 min, not 10 min. She comes back talking with the other girls, then another girls want to go explain to receptionist by taking my phone showing whatsapp text, I tell her no thanks, please don't take my phone, I will leave. As I hate these kind of BS situation and couldn't see myself continue, I decided to put clothes back on and leave. The girls were apologizing and telling me to complain to the whatsapp operator. As I was exiting, I saw 3 local dudes waiting for presentation, prob the receptionist felt it was ok to cut short the tourist and get priority to the loyal local. I tell the whatsapp girl what happened, she apologize and send voice message which I don't understand of course. I said I would write neg review on the local forum, to which she replied with thumbs up.

I would advise not to go to this privé, not good looking girls even if it's a low price (not the kind of girl one would fly 12 hours to meet) and shorting on time. It very much feel like a "trash" place to me where the cheaper local would go. I afraid what I will see in other privé if this one was supposed to be a good place.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2505849]I do like to interact with females other than just transactional, in fact I have a couple of Asian GF met that way. I can definitely feel that the Brazilian girls are more open to meeting men, however my lack of Portuguese and their lack of English makes things difficult, for now. Maybe I will change my mind in the next few weeks hopefully.[/QUOTE]Some people are simply rude. Don't mind them. I enjoy your reports, and I'm sure many others do too.

I actually can see where you're coming from. I love Bangkok too, but these places couldn't be more different, and each is good in its own unique way. A little tip, if I may: you might not want to look for bargain basements deals in Rio. Do not overpay, but when you see prices THAT low, there is usually a reason for that. Still, I can think of worse things than having my dick sucked by 3 girls for less than $20, even if for only 15 minutes.

When things don't go your way, remember the "this is Thailand" adage. Totally applies to Brazil, too.

Keep these reports coming.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2505874]
I specifically asked on whatsapp how much for oral without condom and CIM for 30 min with 3 girls, I was replied 100 reals. I I choose the 3 girls (the less ugly ones), and went to the room. They started one by one to give BBBJ, which was ok, then I ask them to suck me at 3 together, which they complied for, although for a short time, but it was ok, one other box ticked from my to do list. As I was getting ready to finish, I asked one of the girl to suck me to completion, they said lips ok but not inside mouth. Not ideal, but that will do it. Suddenly the receptionist bang on the door and tell them time is up.
[/QUOTE]Wow, threesome blowjob idea is pretty wild and sorry to hear about knock on the door.

Try some centro massage parlors and termas which I think best bang for your money.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2505874]Day 5.

After nice walk on the beach and some seafood, I was in mood for some quick lolly. I saw this ad: [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/copacabana/promo%C3%A7ao-tres-amigas-1h-180-e-uma-e-apartir-60-id-8m3cq[/URL].

They were advertising promotions, I specifically asked on whatsapp how much for oral without condom and CIM for 30 min with 3 girls, I was replied 100 reals. It's [URL]Clube613.com[/URL] on Djalma Ulrich 163 room 701. I was skeptical about getting a good experience at that price, but then I had taken notes before my trip, and one of the popular poster on this forum had said this place had some of best priv talent in Rio. So I went there relatively confident getting a good experience, I have had many threesomes but never a foursome, so I was looking ahead for this one. Once I got there, about 4 PM, after some struggle to communicate with the receptionist, I was presented with about 5 girls, and there were nothing to write about honestly, except one doable light skin chocolate girl (my preference are brown girls followed by white, not into chocolate girls), the others were frankly not good looking. However since I was here just for a blowjob, I choose the 3 girls (the less ugly ones), and went to the room. They started one by one to give BBBJ, which was ok, then I ask them to suck me at 3 together, which they complied for, although for a short time, but it was ok, one other box ticked from my to do list. As I was getting ready to finish, I asked one of the girl to suck me to completion, they said lips ok but not inside mouth. Not ideal, but that will do it. Suddenly the receptionist bang on the door and tell them time is up..[/QUOTE]The promo hardly makes them money so you were unlucky as another gang came. Otherwise you probably would have had your time. As you said, you're a tourist, and they cater to locals mostly.

Ugly move from them.

Know the place, it's very cramped. Try SHM in Centro, when I've been always big room and nice selection of girls, good performance. But remember, girls at these places can shift day to day.

Good report!

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2505959]Wow, threesome blowjob idea is pretty wild and sorry to hear about knock on the door.

Try some centro massage parlors and termas which I think best bang for your money.[/QUOTE]That depends. If the 3 girls just take turns on the cock then that would hardly qualify as a 3 some BJ. You got to find 3 girls who know how to suck and know how to work as a team. One on the dick and one of each nut and then rotate every couple minutes until each get a share of the load and swallows it down with a smile.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2505874]Day 5.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the valuable firsthand contributions. We all have different tastes and firsthand reports, even when the subjects are not of interest, have value. For example, I do not like pony or horse-assed girls. Others do and report where they found them. That immediately takes that location off my list. Someone reports that the private apartment does not have showers and it is best to bring your own sheet. Again, off my list. As for the best locations in the world to monger. That is based upon your experiences and opinions. What I do object to is people who are too lazy to read the forum and do even a minimal amount of research. Also guys who think their experience is fact, not their experience.

After the bad experience at Clube613, I came back to my hotel room and just chilled in the jacuzzi drinking some local beers, and thinking about the evening plan. I wanted to see a higher end girl, over the last few days I had already messaged girls from hotside which I found interesting. One of the girl said "good morning" and sent me some pictures earlier, she was looking really hot and said she speaks English. I asked her rates: 400 reals per hour or 1300 reals per night. I said let's start with 1 hour. She came bang on time at 8. 30 PM (so far, all girls have been right on time on this trip). She was a solid 8.5/10, nice light brown skin body, although her body would be classified small compared to the big ass girls we see here. But I liked, very cute and fresh. And her face was somewhat Asian looking, but she said she doesn't have any Asian blood. She sat on the sofa, got her a drink and we do some small talk, she tells me that she had been traveling in Europe, her English was good basic. After about 25 min we go to bed, she gave a very good wet BBBJ, kissing, and good fuck. I told her I will finish CIM, and asks her to get on the floor and suck me, at one point after sucking, she started to suck my finger with her wet spitty mouth and cute face, what a sight to see! I finished and she dressed up slowly and sat on sofa. One good thing about the 2 hotside girls I have had, they don't seem to be in any kind of rush, probably due to higher price they get less customers so are more relaxed. Also both of them were very polite and good mannered. We talk, and I ask her about pernoite, she said 1300, I said I would like but not at 1300 since that's going to drain my money fast. After some time she said she can do it for 800 reals, if we are going to meet for a few more times. I said ok, since I feel for a girl of her caliber it's good price and good discount given. I said show me around Rio some good nightclubs, she said we could go to Casablanca (that's the 2nd time a girl recommends me this place). I dressed up, and we first went to eat some sushis at the restaurant just around the corner from Pestana, then took uber down to Casablanca. When we arrived there, about 12 AM, there were two other customers with their own girl. About 10 girls available. But the overall vibe was weak and empty, my girl said they will do striptease, but that didn't happen either. During the 45 min stay there, I only saw 3 other customers coming in, taking a look and getting out again. Every time a customer would come in, the security would ask the girl to get up and gather around the incoming guest. Interesting concept. We left the place, and went to Marrakech (by the way, no need to uber, the yellow taxi in front of Casablanca takes you there for free). Same thing there, there was only 1 other customer and about 8 girls, mostly average. The girl then tell me we can go to a nice place in Barra the Tijuca called Vitrinni Lounge Beer, so we uber down there, it took about 20 min to get there. On the way there she tells me her story about having a German BF, that explaining her trips to Europe. Once we arrived, the place was closed. So uber back again to Copa, and went to see Kalabria. Same thing, very few girls and 1 customer there. I only took a Red Bull there since I was getting shitfaced, at one point I left to go piss and when I come back, I am pretty sure something was added to my drink, because the Red Bull didn't taste the same, like if some liquor or something worse was added. I might have been wrong, but I was not going to take any chances, so I told the girl lets go back to the hotel. Didn't fuck again because I was too wasted, the girl left around 8 AM, she said she has appointment to get her nails done a 9 AM. I might probably repeat with this girl for a 800 pernoite, but next time will not get drunk and do more fucking.

This was my first time exploring the boates here in Brazil, the concept seems nice, but the overall vibe not so much due to them being mostly empty (might have to do with the coronavirus). Casablanca seemed to be the better place with the most girls that night, although I didn't see any stunner there and they seemed mostly bored.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2506079]After the bad experience at Clube613, I came back to my hotel room and just chilled in the jacuzzi drinking some local beers, and thinking about the evening plan. I wanted to see a higher end girl, over the last few days I had already messaged girls from hotside which I found interesting.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to let us know how you are getting on. Wish you had Senior Member status or a membership because I am probably not the only senior member who would like to share some private insider tips with you. Raftaar, for someone like you a paid subscription would definitely pay off because if you ask a question or seek information via PM, you will get answers. FYI, some of us know the owners of establishments like Casablanca which has its benefits.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2506079] Snip. This was my first time exploring the boates here in Brazil, the concept seems nice, but the overall vibe not so much due to them being mostly empty (might have to do with the coronavirus). Casablanca seemed to be the better place with the most girls that night, although I didn't see any stunner there and they seemed mostly bored.[/QUOTE]I may be too suspicious, but seems like a lot of fishy stuff was going on. The places she took you are obviously hooker pick-up places, not regular nightclubs where non-hookers and non-mongerers go to dance and enjoy the music, so you went with a hooker to hooker pick-up places. Not sure why she would do that, other than maybe show you off to the other girls in the clubs, instead of taking you to a regular club. Whatever her motive for the club choices, going out and getting you drunk certainly seems to have been her plan, since it lessened the probability of her having to have sex with you again, and she got an extra 400 real for basically going out and drinking, at your expense. Regarding your drink, there wouldn't seem to be any other person other than her who could have spiked it. Not sure what her plan might have been, but you may want to be extra careful if you have any future meetings with her.

We had a group of four, including ISG Chris H and me.

We met up at Praca XV at 16 h.

We took the boat across the pond to Niteroi.

I walked us down to the Bus Terminal, where we had some good fried shrimp, then to the Fish Market, which was of course closed as I predicted.

We then ubered to one defunct Terma at a address I dug up on gparena or similar.

After a few stops into boxing gyms, and love hotels, we did find a boate 315, which in my view had excellent negra talent. Some of the other guys thought the beers were not cold, etc. Since I'm not a big drinker, I appreciated the fresh negra and Latina bunda on display.

The address was Rio barao do amazonas 315. The cover was 20 reais each.

We took the boat back over to centro.

I had met some good talent at a Club Mix Bar for a local monger mixer (gparena or forumx or one of those), and one of the other guys was planning on a swing bar anyway. The address is rua mercado 25. We did pop in. We got gringo'ed at a price of 140. On the website it is a charge of 90. Anyway, there was a gang bang with a negra with a pretty amazing body. The ground rules were you had to use a condom, blow job included. Since it was my first such experience, it was interesting. I would not recommend it for most mongers, but it was worth doing once. There are several schools of thought in my view for a swinger's night. First, I recall the old saying, "show me a beautiful girl and I will show you a guy who's sick of fucking her. " I get to that point with mini relationships, and I realize taking the girl to a swingers night could address that feeling. Or the other shallow thought is the Cindy Lauper song that was playing, "Girls just want to have fun. " Girls like swingers nights too.

We then went to some darkside termas, and then went to Mab's.

Anyway, I get burned out of too much mongering.

But I digress.

That was the day.

Boates in the Copa area are clip joints. Keep an eye on your bill, (bin.) These places don't start happening til after 2 a, when the locals arrive to drink. Few will take a girl. I don't know Casablanca, but do know Marrakech, which has a ST room. Once in a blue moon, you'll find a Diamond in the rough.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2506079]This was my first time exploring the boates here in Brazil, the concept seems nice, but the overall vibe not so much due to them being mostly empty (might have to do with the coronavirus). Casablanca seemed to be the better place with the most girls that night, although I didn't see any stunner there and they seemed mostly bored.[/QUOTE]She should of taken you to Whiskeria 65 in Centro. Its close to the now defunt 4 x4. From what; can tell, a lot of the crew who were at 4 x 4 are working at this terma now. I was there for several nights and the girl selection is noy bad, always about 15 to 25 girls working. Its packed Tuesday. Thursday. You should check it out. Cover fee is either R70 or R80, all consumable. The price for the girls are clearly stated at the front desk.

One girl I know in Rio told me that the shops not essential will be closed from next Monday because cases of covid very hight in Rio? She didn't know about restaurants and bars, someone can confirm?

Excellent and really helpful reports Raftaar, much appreciated as February will ostensibly be my noob trip. Am seriously considering forfeiting the Bogota leg of my trip and staying the extra week in Rio and doing a 'Vagabundo' by getting a lower rate for a 2/3 day stay. I've messaged a few girls from Privat55 and Rio VIP's all asking for $400 even though their GPArena pages are 200/300 so definitely room to negotiate I guess.

Glad you guys on the ground are enjoying it, save some for me.

I haven't heard anyone mention about things closing. Seems business as usual but they did just have an election and one girl told me they really don't know what will happen. Staying a portobay, no problems coming up with a girl I had met on line that described herself as a sugar baby. As it's my first time in Rio I didn't know I was in between 2 puta palaces, casa Blanca is in the side street next to the hotel and dolce vita is like 20 steps away if that and just down the block is Mabs which looked to be pretty popping. I was with a chick and she wanted to go to casa Blanca. It was maybe like 15 girls there it was slow most was sitting around playing on their phones but a few were in there shaking ass real nice pulling there skirts down and showing that bunda. Entrance was R70 with 2 drink tickets. Left there around 3 with the chick I was with took her upstairs and banged her on the balcony. Decent 1st night in Rio.

I have never been in Rio during New Years (pre-pandemic), let alone during the pandemic. Anyone know of any good spots to hangout at during the countdown, any fireworks spots, or simply any good spots to go partying at during that time? I'll be in RJ and was hoping someone can shine some guidance for that day.

Well, I slept well last night having stocked up on some ambien. There's a place at Barata Ribeiro, not far from Cantagalo Metro where I picked up some.

I got in a good workout this morning at the pool / gym. Hit the heavy boxing bag 10 x 3 minute rounds, clean and jerks, and swimming. Good stress reliever. Need to go find the cheapest coconuts for fresh agua do coco.

I headed over to 583 -- Ave Nossa Senhora Copacabana -- with Chris H and two buddies. The salas with girls are:

206: Good new 19 year old Mulata with no kids, got numbers. Good low key mini boate type of vibe. It was too early at 13 h30, as the girls were just cleaning, etc.

303,401: did not go personally, but my wingmen did.

I headed to Centro to pick up Skin Kira Noir Diamond at Central, but she was late then pushed to next day due to her having some other plans. It was a nice day, so she probably went to a pool with her real friends, or as the title of the appropriate Netflix movie has it "amigos coloridas" . This also answers what are good netflix movies like friends, between fucking a super hot teen mulata / morena.

So, I perfected my bombeiro estrangeiro wardrobe, shopped at that casa do bombeiro which the life guard at the pool here gave me the address for. My girlfriends think I have some gift for humor, more on the slightly demented straight man -- the Dan Akroyd of the Blues Brothers, "we're on a mission from god" delivered with dramatic irony, made all the more funny by my very bad Portuguese. It could have a little Bill Murray from Lost in Translation. Speaking of Porta dos Fundos' "Sobre mesa" Nina Deponca and I have that sketch down, and my twist (since I love me some negra negra negra) is "Eu quiero melancia".

Anyway, I went by the secret termas (hint, hint -- its 80 meters directly north of the DETRAN on Av Pres. Vargas). I couldn't get motivated to fuck another hooker. I actually think of it like "work" plus the mattresses in those secret termas are box springs, not mattresses.

RTFF. I've been corresponding with some ISG members. Look, lad's I'm not IT. I will help, but RTFF. Use google. I said, "Go to metro Uruguiana, and go upstairs to the popular mercado, and there are plenty of people who will sell you a SIM card and used cell phones. " The best thing to do is to come to Brazil with a plan like Google Project Fi, which I've found to be best.

And then new mongers are like, "are there places for finding street walkers?" Look, I posted Bubba Boy's excellent guides, which, although dated, are still accurate, especially on subjects like mini relationships. Not only read this forum, but also Bubba Boy's Guides.

So, the sordid drama that is my time on this Earth goes on.

I linked up with Chris H and his buddies at Mab's at 19 h. Since I was a bit knackered, I caught a city bus to Barra, got off at Barra Garden shopping bought some essentials. I will note that the same 3 bags of granola which can be had at Metro Pavuna for $10 reais cost upwards of $15-25 reais each at the upscale market in Barra. So, logically, the wise and frugal monger will get on the metro jardim oceanico and for $4 reais get up to Pavuna to get his granola and his pussy. Which is what I am doing.

Skin Kira Noir Diamond is from Bangu. And before you ask me, get your google out. It's even further north than Pavuna, or somewhere in that hood.

Monger On garth.

401.

[QUOTE=Mcd2293;2506397]I have never been in Rio during New Years (pre-pandemic), let alone during the pandemic. Anyone know of any good spots to hangout at during the countdown, any fireworks spots, or simply any good spots to go partying at during that time? I'll be in RJ and was hoping someone can shine some guidance for that day.[/QUOTE]The fireworks takes place in Guarabara Bay, so the place to be is Copacabana beach. The fireworks are literally on / over the bay so it can be seen from all of Copacabana.

Not sure if there will be fireworks this year though.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2506426]Anyway, I went by the secret termas (hint, hint -- its 80 meters directly north of the DETRAN on Av Pres. Vargas). [/QUOTE]About 80 m north of Detran is Club 116, on Rua the Conceição 116. A lowend puteiro. You have to be lucky to find something doable at Club 116. If this is the "secret terma", why call it "secret"? It's been there for several decades.

The annual New Year's Eve celebrations that traditionally see millions of people gathered on Copacabana Beach in Rio de Janeiro have been canceled this year as Brazil grapples with surging coronavirus infections, city authorities said.

This was the official posting from the city mayor of Rio de Janeiro posted weeks ago.

Sorry care on.

Hotels are always a big topic. I'm stating in portobay and it's garota friendly, first night I just walked in but was a girl that didn't look like a GP second night took a girl from dolce vita, the dude at the seat had her fill out a paper and copied her ID and we were out. If you a new guy to Rio like I am I would say this a good hotel. As I stated it's right by casa blanca, dolce vita and mabs. I saw a few garotas around cat calling me during the day and tonight one came up to me while I was going to get something to eat pushing her sell pitch on avienda Atlantic just past the restaurant ok. Seems like a good hotel to get ya feet wet if you don't know Rio well. I have did much hunting in Rio, the "sugar baby " has a friend that wants to meet so got a threesome set up for tomorrow and she wants to fuck the girl I met at casa Blanca when went the other night so probably do that Sunday. Plus tryna save for this return to SP, there is just some many Twitter girls I still want to fuck plus got to get Scandallo one time before I get out of Brazil.

Bingo!

Because Fuckamefdig asked me to keep it secret.

Chris H and his friends can comment too, but we found many doable girls, in the last few days.

How is internet porn in Europe, or are you in Brazil now?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2506522]About 80 m north of Detran is Club 116, on Rua the Conceio 116. A lowend puteiro. You have to be lucky to find something doable at Club 116. If this is the "secret terma", why call it "secret"? It's been there for several decades.[/QUOTE]

It's also club 114.

That's why it's the secret termas.

My reason was simply to write a mystery spy thriller sex travel novela.

To make it interesting.

This Friday I banged 19 year old skin Kira noir diamond bareback cream pied in her bare **** 4 or more times.

400 reais pernoite.

Good night.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2506522]About 80 m north of Detran is Club 116, on Rua the Conceio 116. A lowend puteiro. You have to be lucky to find something doable at Club 116. If this is the "secret terma", why call it "secret"? It's been there for several decades.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GValenz;2506542]The annual New Year's Eve celebrations that traditionally see millions of people gathered on Copacabana Beach in Rio de Janeiro have been canceled this year as Brazil grapples with surging coronavirus infections, city authorities said.

This was the official posting from the city mayor of Rio de Janeiro posted weeks ago.

Sorry care on.[/QUOTE]That's a shame. If anyone hears of anything else going on during NYE in either RJ or SP, I'm all ears. I'll be spending my NYE in Brazil so I'm pretty flexible as to where I can be at.

Hey guys,

In a few days I will start my trip to Brazil. Will spend some days in Rio. Thanks to this forum I got a lot of good informations and addresses with prives.

I am searching for prives with tubes or whirlpool. On the website are rarely photos of the rooms. Only at euro rio spa massagem I could see that they have one.

Does anyone of you know prives with tubes or whirlpools?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2506426]I headed to Centro to pick up Skin Kira Noir Diamond at Central, but she was late then pushed to next day due to her having some other plans. It was a nice day, so she probably went to a pool with her real friends, or as the title of the appropriate Netflix movie has it "amigos coloridas" . This also answers what are good netflix movies like friends, between fucking a super hot teen mulata / morena.[/QUOTE]Is that the show you mean? Unfortunately due to licenses for certain shows only being valid in certain countries, many shows are only regionally available on Netflix. There's a Brazilian crime show called 9 mm São Paulo that's not available in the US that I want to see. I looked for DVDs in Brazil but couldn't find any.

Day 6.

After the previous night excessive drinking, spent most of the day recoving from the hangover. I was not in mood to try a new girl, so contemplated whether to see the hotside girl # 2 from previous night or the hotside # 1 from 2 days ago. Decided to take hotside # 1, since she provided an "extra special" service, subject to her offering me a reasonable pernoite rate. I sent her a whatsapp, she replied within seconds. First I made sure that I was talking to the girl itself and not some kind of middle man, and it was the girl itself. Asked her if we could meet this evening, and whether we could have sex the same way as 2 nights ago, she said yes we can do it the same way. She said her rate is 1400 reals pernoite. I then explain her I would like a lower rate, and perhaps we could meet for a few times. She then said 1000 reals. Based on my previous night experience, I offered her 800 reals, which she accepted quite easily. That's nearly half what she asked, and that makes me wonder how much down I can go on the asked rate, without looking like a cheap charlie. She arrived on time at 8:30 PM. We fucked, and it was very good: BBBJ / DATY / LFK / CG / RCG / Doggy / Rimming / COF and she wouldn't have minded CIP if I wanted. She seemed to enjoy herself, and took all time needed to make sure I was satisfied too. Anal was also on offer, but anal doesn't do much for me, and especially not without rubber. We then ordered uber eats, and fucked again. Then just chilled before a last fuck and finished at 4 AM. We slept, and she left at 1:30 PM. Could have probably fucked again in morning, but I am 1 or 2 shot guy, so didn't see myself doing a 4th shot. Even though this girl pretty much did everything I asked for, and took all the time it needed, on my long time meets, I like something more GFE, and the GFE with her was not upto my standards. Still, I will probably repeat with her once before leaving Rio.

Day 7.

After the last night sex feast, and 7 consecutive days of multiple fucks, my body needed a rest. So just took some me time, and relaxed in Copacabana.

Day 8.

After visiting the redeemer statue, I was thinking about trying some centro priv, but decided against it since I wanted to have pernoite with hotside #2. Although some things seemed fishy with her, to be fair she didn't know much about Rio nightlife except Lapa, Casablanca and that one place in Barra. In fact she even thought Vila Mimosa was in SP. And getting drunk was totally my fault. I felt we had a good chemistry and that there was room for more. So I hit her up around 6 PM, and asked her if we can meet at 8 PM for pernoite. Now starts some drama. At the exact same time, Hotside # 1 texts me she wants to see me, I knew they were a gang of 5 girls, but didn't thought they would be communicating with each other that quick. I ended up in a situation where I had to choose, so I choose #2. She said she was very happy to see me and liked me a lot. About 20 min later, hotside #2 text me she has periods, and can't see me for the next few days, and that I should go with one of the other girls. Now that seemed weird, when asked why she is like that she just said sorry, then just deleted her whatsapp (deleted, not blocked). Very fishy. About 20 min later hotside # 1 tells me #2 can't come, so can we meet tonight for the usual? I start to grasp that #1 is probably more senior, and she just blocked #2 from seeing me, so I told her until she resolve the situation and let me see #2, I will not see her either. She said she had a deal with # 2, but that she didn't do her part.

It was a pity. But oh well, I started to make plan about going to Dolce Vita and Whiskeria 65, when suddenly the phone rings, a girl is here to see me. It turns out to be hotside # 2. Surprised. I told her that you said you can't come, but she didn't understand what I was talking about. I showed her the text, and she got annoyed. She said the whatsapp text were also responded by some other girls and the pimp (cafetao), so she isn't the one who replied to me, and that they were trying to hurt her business because she was the newer member. She then proceeded to give me her personal number. We talked, and she seemed to have a certain inclination towards BDSM, I m not much into it, but I am always on the lookout for that elusive sub no limit type girl. We then relax in the jacuzzi for a hour or so, then blowjob and fuck in it. Then went to bed, and what followed was truly amazing. My personal count is 165+ girls, and had my fair share of intense sessions, but this one was hands down among the best, if not the best. It was so intense, so passionate, PSE yet GFE, it would put most porno to shame. BBBJ, balls, Rimming both ways, 69, DFK, deepthroat wet facefuck, intense sex, she was getting a kick out of getting slapped, spit on and hair pulled. The few times she climaxed, she was screaming so hard I was worried the neighbor might feel someone is in trouble. I have never seen that before. I did anal just for the sake of it. We must have fucked 100 min non stop and finished CIM no swallow. We were soaking wet. Just wow. We then lay on the bed, and DFK for what felt an eternity, she wouldn't stop. By the time we get up, it's already 12 AM, so we went to Ipanema to eat and came back, she wanted to dress to impress before going to Lapa / Clubs so scheduled that for another day. I noticed that a lot of men were looking at her, and became quite talkative with her on our 2 nights out. She does make a good impression, and for sure she has some Japanese going on in her, as her small eyes and boobs leads me to believe. As we are on the sofa in each other arms, I told her we should hangout together. For me the best result are yielded when I am long time with a girl for few days or more. Quality quantity and don't have to urge to fuck different women. She was very happy about the idea, she said she needed to pay 800 reals for this pernoite to the pimp, and then she would stop with him, take her suitcase and hang out with me. Later we talked about compensation, said she was leaving to home in Bahia for Christmas, and would appreciate 2000 reals for the week. I said ok no worries. That's 285 reals per noite for a 8.5 girl, 9.5 on sex and 9. 5 on attitude. Also it turns out we are the same age (upper 20's), and the same childish, messing around attitude. If things go smooth, the week will probably get extended.

Day 8.

The girl went to her room, said she argued with the boss, and came to my room with both her suitcases. Put on her sexy g string bikini, time to go to the beach. The fun in Rio has just started.

P.S. Pestana Hotel: When they called me about this girl, the receptionist said a girl wanted to come see me, but that her ID was not the same as the one registered (previous girl). I said so, what's the issue, nobody told me anything since last week despite bringing different girls. He said it's a coronavirus restriction, and that the previous receptionist might not know it. He said he will change the registered girl name this time, but wouldn't be able to do that from now on. No issue for me now since I am staying with the same girl. But keep that in mind a certain receptionist is following procedure to the letter. I would suggest getting in the hotel with the girl and going straight to the lift, since security are chilled, but that particular receptionist is not.

Before my trip, with too much time on hand due to covid19, I made a pdf list of POI for both RJ and SP with over 100+ places, with address and websites gathered from various websites and reports. Nothing new for the experienced guys, but could be helpful for Brazil newbies.

It's attached to the post, for those who can have access to it.

Enjoy.

Well, I waited long enough for LOS to open up. But enough is enough. I am heading down to Brazil! So, I have done my due diligence and I have more than enough info to get me started down the right track in part thanks to all the generous ISG Brazil contributors. You guys know who you are. And I have a good list of the most popular Boates & Clinicas for SP and Termas & Prive's for RJ. My basic plan is to spend 1 week in SP, get my dick wet, see what happens, and who I hook up with, then fly to RJ for a week on the beach, and lastly finish up with a final 2 week stretch back in SP. I am psyched because I know I am going to have a real good time and If I really like the girls, who knows, I might head back for a 2nd helping in the fall of 2021 instead of finally returning to LOS.

So, with the basics all down pat, I could not stop myself from cruising around the internet looking for anything interesting relating to Brazilian girls. I am not a big fan of escort services and almost never use them in SE Asia because I don't like the idea of waiting around in my hotel room for a girl I never met, but, I started checking out photoacompanhantes just for the hell of it and I found a few interesting girls there even though most girls on the site are not my style. They are too top & bottom heavy. Ha Ha. But a few girls did catch my eye, especially after I set the web site filters to verified photo, skinny, and natural breast. Prices seem reasonable too with 200 brl being the average, so I figured I might do something with them one afternoon. Who knows.

But then I checked out Rio Vips & Barra Vips. Ooh la la! I think you guys know what I mean. There are definitely some star quality escorts on these 2 sites! But what is the story? Prices, that is one thing, ha ha, but what about service? Do these girls perform well? For example, I kind of liked this one: [URL]https://www.riovips.com.br/acompanhantes_rio_rj_moniquekosta.[/URL] She looks like a real nice girl. If I were in Rio today, I would give her a call and see what's up. But again, most of these VIP escort girls have that Brazilian top and bottom heavy body which I am not gung ho on. Oh well, I am not going to hold out too long if these Brazilian girls have pretty faces and nice personalities. As Saint Augustine once said, "When in Rome do as the Romans do. " That's me. I am going on a Brazilian pilgrimage.

Well Saturday started in bed with Kira skin diamond noir.

She resembles her namesakes in all the best ways, a 19 year old version.

I creampied her 5 times at night, and then again in the morning.

The highlight was making her cum loudly and uncontrollably with my tongue, a sure sign she is enjoying the night.

We binge watched Skin Diamond in lesbian anal sex slaves 1 or 2, and related skin diamond strapon search content on [URL]evilangel.com[/URL].

I picked this content for her because I told her I want to see her do it to another girl, that is strap on a dildo and fuck the other girl. Sure enough, she volunteered one of her friends, so I have that to look forward too, along with total enlightenment on my deathbed.

I pay Nina DePonca 300 pernoite, and paid Skin 400. The going rate for a top tier talent from the darkside termas is 400, but as I've said, several girls this year (3) have only been asking 200 pernoite for multiple diaria / pernoites for which I also pay unlimited dining at beach cafes, and act as their photographyer. It is hard work, and I hope you can appreciate the sacrifices I make for art.

Seriously, her pretty little morena eyes were locked on the the screen as skin diamond strap on dominates a asian woman in one of those lurid scenes.

This was our sex viewing in between watching amigas coloridas on Netflix and Felipe ret audio on youtube. Men, you need to master your audio visual. You can train for this at home.

So, I was uber-ing skin back to central, and I popped in on Chris H at his Copa apartment.

He and his lads were moving out, so I helped them get into a room at hotel vanity for the afternoon, and we hit the beach for a drink. We found a spot across from MIS -- the old Help.

I'm sick of hearing about the old Help. The spot is nice, but over touristed. The waiter introduced himself as osama bin laden, joking. Funny, haha, ask Osama if he thinks it funny at the bottom of the Indian O.

Anyway, at Santo Dumont, I dropped of the crew, and then loitered around centro a bit, and then messated trade and travel and met him in his Ipanema palace, where we got acquainted. A scholar and a gentleman, I am looking forward to having some adventures in rio with my new friend, who has many similar interests. We are kind of a league of extraordinary gentlemen, we few, we happy few.

Then I had Nina Deponca come over to the Ipanema Crib and from thence we ubered to Fogo do Chao, which is pricy ($225 reais or so per head), where we enjoyed both the best steak house and the best view of Botafogo Harbor, Sugarloaf at night, and the whole pastische.

From thence, Nina and I ubered back to Transamerica. One the way up the little ramp to the drop off, I commented lewdly in Portuguese one the blond hookers getting into the cars in front of us. "Leve ela no um suruba com pretos" even got a real laugh from the driver. My growing comedic talent thus satisfied, Nina and I commenced to our usual hot box yoga to Ana foxxx bondage gangbang porn and related content on [URL]kink.com[/URL], which fits our tastes more precisely than just [URL]evilangel.com[/URL].

Monger on my fellow Texans, Earthlings, and Cowboys.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2506845]But then I checked out Rio Vips & Barra Vips. Ooh la la! I think you guys know what I mean. There are definitely some star quality escorts on these 2 sites! But what is the story? Prices, that is one thing, ha ha, but what about service? Do these girls perform well? For example, I kind of liked this one: [URL]https://www.riovips.com.br/acompanhantes_rio_rj_moniquekosta.[/URL] She looks like a real nice girl. If I were in Rio today, I would give her a call and see what's up.[/QUOTE]There are a lot of pretty girls that come and go from the Brazilian escort websites. The general consensus seems to be that just picking one from a site without a referral or reading a recommendation is hit or miss.

I was also intrigued by Monique Kosta (or Costa). Given there are good videos, you have more confidence that the photos aren't doctored. I found one very recent review in Portuguese which was negative. The local reviewer was very negative and has a history of negative reviews. He said the girl was ugly and a poor performer. I'm not exactly sure how she could be ugly looking at the videos.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2506845]Well, I waited long enough for LOS to open up. But enough is enough. I am heading down to Brazil! So, I have done my due diligence and I have more than enough info to get me started down the right track in part thanks to all the generous ISG Brazil contributors. You guys know who you are. And I have a good list of the most popular Boates & Clinicas for SP and Termas & Prive's for RJ. My basic plan is to spend 1 week in SP, get my dick wet, see what happens, and who I hook up with, then fly to RJ for a week on the beach, and lastly finish up with a final 2 week stretch back in SP. I am psyched because I know I am going to have a real good time and If I really like the girls, who knows, I might head back for a 2nd helping in the fall of 2021 instead of finally returning to LOS.

So, with the basics all down pat, I could not stop myself from cruising around the internet looking for anything interesting relating to Brazilian girls. I am not a big fan of escort services and almost never use them in SE Asia because I don't like the idea of waiting around in my hotel room for a girl I never met, but, I started checking out photoacompanhantes just for the hell of it and I found a few interesting girls there even though most girls on the site are not my style. They are too top & bottom heavy. Ha Ha. But a few girls did catch my eye, especially after I set the web site filters to verified photo, skinny, and natural breast. Prices seem reasonable too with 200 brl being the average, so I figured I might do something with them one afternoon. Who knows..[/QUOTE]I personally vouch for Rio Sex Site. I've personally used it and had good experiences. I'm like you in that I rarely ever use escort services. For a variety of reasons it's just not my thing. But those few times when I do go there, I don't want to deal with any bullshit, starting with "bait and switch". Rio Sex Site is the real deal. Try it. I think you will like it, as far as escort services go. I'm a hard judge when it comes to escort services. This is the only site that carries my personal seal of approval at this time. There are a couple of others in Brazil that come highly recommended, but I have not personally used those yet.

[URL]https://www.riosexsite.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2506798]Before my trip, with too much time on hand due to covid19, I made a pdf list of POI for both RJ and SP with over 100+ places, with address and websites gathered from various websites and reports. Nothing new for the experienced guys, but could be helpful for Brazil newbies.

It's attached to the post, for those who can have access to it.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Thank for your hard work and for sharing, great info.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2506798]Before my trip, with too much time on hand due to covid19, I made a pdf list of POI for both RJ and SP with over 100+ places, with address and websites gathered from various websites and reports. Nothing new for the experienced guys, but could be helpful for Brazil newbies.

It's attached to the post, for those who can have access to it.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Excellent and informative post. One thing you might want to note is that Tijuca and Barra de Tijuca are not the same place. Tijuca is about 25 kilometers from Barra de Tijuca, near Maracana stadium.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2506845]Well, I waited long enough for LOS to open up. But enough is enough. I am heading down to Brazil! So, I have done my due diligence and I have more than enough info to get me started down the right track in part thanks to all the generous ISG Brazil contributors. You guys know who you are. And I have a good list of the most popular Boates & Clinicas for SP and Termas & Prive's for RJ. My basic plan is to spend 1 week in SP, get my dick wet, see what happens, and who I hook up with, then fly to RJ for a week on the beach, and lastly finish up with a final 2 week stretch back in SP. I am psyched because I know I am going to have a real good time and If I really like the girls, who knows, I might head back for a 2nd helping in the fall of 2021 instead of finally returning to LOS.

So, with the basics all down pat, I could not stop myself from cruising around the internet looking for anything interesting relating to Brazilian girls. I am not a big fan of escort services and almost never use them in SE Asia because I don't like the idea of waiting around in my hotel room for a girl I never met, but, I started checking out photoacompanhantes just for the hell of it and I found a few interesting girls there even though most girls on the site are not my style. They are too top & bottom heavy. Ha Ha. But a few girls did catch my eye, especially after I set the web site filters to verified photo, skinny, and natural breast. Prices seem reasonable too with 200 brl being the average, so I figured I might do something with them one afternoon. Who knows.

But then I checked out Rio Vips & Barra Vips. Ooh la la! I think you guys know what I mean. There are definitely some star quality escorts on these 2 sites! But what is the story? Prices, that is one thing, ha ha, but what about service? Do these girls perform well? For example, I kind of liked this one: [URL]https://www.riovips.com.br/acompanhantes_rio_rj_moniquekosta.[/URL] She looks like a real nice girl. If I were in Rio today, I would give her a call and see what's up. But again, most of these VIP escort girls have that Brazilian top and bottom heavy body which I am not gung ho on. Oh well, I am not going to hold out too long if these Brazilian girls have pretty faces and nice personalities. As Saint Augustine once said, "When in Rome do as the Romans do. " That's me. I am going on a Brazilian pilgrimage.[/QUOTE]Wow Natty I remember reading your posts before my first trip to land of smiles. I too gave up on SEA for the near future. I went to rio for halloween. It was a blast. The girls are soooo passionate. I booked a girl with fake tits and ass off barravips. Bruna Rocha. The way it worked was she gave me a time to order her an uber, she messaged me she was ready I sent the Uber and she showed up. Her pictures did not do her justice and they were great pictures. It was 800 reais for 2 hours. Worth every penny to me, she was amazing. I plan on doing a lot more escorts for my new years trip because of the quality. I wish you luck and definitely look forward to your reports! You will have fun and don't worry not only are spinners plentiful I found they are cheaper because they are not in great demand. Not the preferred taste of the locals imo.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2506845]But then I checked out Rio Vips & Barra Vips. Ooh la la! I think you guys know what I mean. There are definitely some star quality escorts on these 2 sites! But what is the story? Prices, that is one thing, ha ha, but what about service? Do these girls perform well?[/QUOTE]If you get bad service from a chick during your month in Brazil, then I will pay for your next chick in Thailand. Brazilian hookers take their craft seriously.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2506845]......... But again, most of these VIP escort girls have that Brazilian top and bottom heavy body which I am not gung ho on. Oh well, I am not going to hold out too long if these Brazilian girls have pretty faces and nice personalities. As Saint Augustine once said, "When in Rome do as the Romans do. " That's me. I am going on a Brazilian pilgrimage.[/QUOTE]Being a lover of the SEA body type, the physique of the Brazilian garotas would not be 100% to your liking but they'll fuck the hell out of you.

Sunday started with Nina Deponca in bed with me, we slept until 1 PM due to the heavy churrascuria meal. We fucked, ate, fucked, went to the beach (Barra Posto 7, easily best in Rio IMHO), went to bob's at Barra Shopping (Liberty statue). With the sales, I gave her some of her money and like a woman, she went shopping crazy. I bought a Chromecast. I paid her 300.

We got back to Transamerica love shack with its great veranda view of the drive up to the front door. Tradeandtravel came by we smoked, then went out on the street and ate at Borda e Lenha, the pizza with gorgonzola blue cheese and bacon is a winner. 5 G Wifi too.

We had gone to Mabs, where a Brit who is here for 3 months hit me up to hike with him this upcoming week, including a patrol of barra, which I am planning for this Monday. The problem with him and many fellow mongers is they want to be dominant, and constantly say things like "you're not listening to me" while we're talking at Mabs. I resist the temptation to throat punch, but slow your roll you needy little woman, I don't work for you.

So, anyway, after pizza tradeandtravel and I went out to VM by uber. I found a 19 yo negra, marked her as a target for later.

We then took a car to mab's where, again, the talent is shit (ex 4 x4 Fanny the other night was good, but she's 29 ish being generous).

At Mabs' we chilled, tradeandtravel had to get his sleep, so I ubered back to VM, got the negra, I shall designate her callsign Ana Foxxx, and took her to my pad and we fucked pernoite. She wouldn't let me cream pie her pussy, but we fucked bare. I paid her 300. We got up the next morning and I ubered her back to VM.

I offered for Tradeandtravel to do a pussy patrol to centro, pick up a soccer shirt, and see the secret terma, darkside termas, and t65, maybe even a trip across the pond to niteroi. If anyone is up for such a pussy patrol PM me, and we will make it a group.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2507008]Well Saturday started in bed with Kira skin diamond noir.

She resembles her namesakes in all the best ways, a 19 year old version.

I creampied her 5 times at night, and then again in the morning.

The highlight was making her cum loudly and uncontrollably with my tongue, a sure sign she is enjoying the night.

We binge watched Skin Diamond in lesbian anal sex slaves 1 or 2, and related skin diamond strapon search content on [URL]evilangel.com[/URL]..[/QUOTE]

First time in Rio and spent about a week there.

I mostly frequented Termas Monte Carlo. The place opens at 3 PM until midnight. There were about 20 garotas after 5 PM. Clean. The staff are friendly. The receptionist and manager both spoke good English. The entire thing with 1 HR with a garota was about 720. You can pay the fee that goes to the garota in cash the rest you can pay on your credit card. I had zero issues there with the bill and it always came out correct. Sessioned multiple hours most nights. Keep in mind it's not 720 reals to the garota. Ask them for their pricing structure and they will present you with a laminated print out showing how it all works. You're paying for access to the venue, and for the room rental.

Otherwise Mabs is open and there's a bar near Mabs that also has hookers. I didn't venture further for garotas as I didn't need any. Solarium is open as well but I think it's more expensive than Monte Carlo. I didn't go there. Between Monte Carlo and Mabs I had everything I needed.

[URL]https://youtu.be/PvKi_udpanI[/URL]

This is best transition from.

Porta dos fundos to porn.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2507275]Being a lover of the SEA body type, the physique of the Brazilian garotas would not be 100% to your liking but they'll fuck the hell out of you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2507124]If you get bad service from a chick during your month in Brazil, then I will pay for your next chick in Thailand. Brazilian hookers take their craft seriously.[/QUOTE]Seriously Mr. E, that's a beautiful thing you're saying, almost brought tears to my eyes. But seriously, I've had my share of Rio tourist fucks. I've also had fucks of my life. My experiences have been that in Rio price has nothing to do with the quality, like AT ALL! Unless it's a pretty expensive fuck. When a fuck gets close to $US100, it's been almost always good to me. Then again, it was often good at $15-20 a pop. But not every time, fuck no.

Talking USA Money since Real has gone to shit and back, and to shit again in the last 20 years.

Well, that's just me.

Loved Rio and I didn't even get to any termas LOL. I'm not the type of monger that needs to fuck 8 times a day. I met a chick that was super wild on Twitter she is low key called herself a sugar baby but this girl likes to have fun and is bisexual. I had linked up with her first day in Rio and she said she had a friend that wanted to hang with us. So Saturday night I hung out with them all day, we went to sugar loaf then the beach then casa Blanca then to this crazy fuck motel called panda. I don't know Rio well at all but the girl told me it's near jardim botánico, had a pool, jacuzzi, sauna, booming sound system. If you want to go have a wild time with a couple chicks that's the place to go. It's a little pricey tho I think it was like $180 for 6 hours for the 3 of us. They probably got me I was hella drunk after drinking caipivodka on the beach, whiskey and cheap champagne in casa Blanca kkkkk. But was worth the fun. I gave but he the girls R1500 they were with me all day and put on a great show that night. I did take a chick from dolce vita one night but didn't really care for her she spent like an hour trying to explain to me how expensive things are in Rio, boo hoo hoo. Whole time I thinking girl I live in the Bay Area don't tell me anything about being expensive to live. Fucked her raw tho pernoite R800 she charged. Left a lot of things on the plate, I had fucked like 6 GP's in São Paulo before arriving to Rio and had the girl soon as I touched down so didn't make it to any termas or prives. Also spent a lot of time doing tourist stuff going to see Christo, sugar loaf, riding up and down Copacabana on those lime scooters. This one of the best trips. There is something for everybody. A friend of mine was in Rio with his girl and even got to get out of south zone with them and go to north zone and eat some good churrasco and other stuff my man was putting on the girl. I keep seeing guys talk about SA girl body types. There are plenty slim girl in Brazil only differences is they probably got some ass where SA girls got flat asses. I never been to SEA I don't really care for Asian women bcuz to me Latin women can not be beat. These Brazilian girl are hot as fuck, they talk so dirty while you fuck them and it's whatever your want to do, not any of them said you can't do this or you can't do that. Back in SP now tho ready to fuck a few more of my Twitter lovelies, try to make it to Scandallo and check it out one time for I go. If you are even slightly thinking about coming to Brazil come. Oh and try to learn a little Portuguese, you will make your life easier, it's not for them it's for you. Sorry Vagabundo we didn't get to link, partly because I didn't communicate much and partly because I already had so many plans. I didn't know it would be so easy to get what I needed without a Rio vet but it was. I'll be back in Feb. Tho and we definitely got to get up. I'm tryna make some orgies happen kkkk.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2507429][URL]https://youtu.be/PvKi_udpanI[/URL]

This is best transition from.

Porta dos fundos to porn.[/QUOTE]The girl at 4:27 though. That's what I'm talking about.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2507539]Loved Rio and I didn't even get to any termas LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you enjoyed your trip. I'm glad you also managed to get in some of the "normal" tourist stuff. It took me at least 4 trips or so before I did that. I was too busy fucking and getting my nuts sucked LOL! Especially in the termas hahaha!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2507573]The girl at 4:27 though. That's what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]Very, very, very, very few Thai or Filipina girls can compete with that. The only way SEA is better than Brazil is if you just have a thing for Asian girls. Otherwise Latin America, and Brazil in particular, rules! Germany is second with its FKK system.

Yeah.

Apparently the girls in those videos are not even pros. Just regular girls who compete to be in the videos. Shows you the status of the ganja rapper in this culture.

A buddy of mine who is a dual citizen of Brazil and a rich world country passed that video to me, and may know the videographers, which you can find in the links on those videos anyway.

IMHO, American porno producers do not have enough good Brazilian talent. Hint, hint, hint. And that music would be great for the scenes.

Monday:

Monday, I linked with tradeandtravel, we chilled, watched some videos, and we did a pussy patrol.

Our driver, who is a native, first took us to 4 x4, which was closed.

I recommended some dark side termas, but was outvoted.

We went to solarium, where I recused myself to Bar Joao Carioca on Jardim Botanica because I have a mini relationship going with a morena and didn't want to screw up my pricing which is tipping down from 400 peroite / diaria to 300. Tradeandtravel and driver went into solarium and got numbers.

Then we went to monte carlo.

There were 7 girls.

IMHO, girls in talent top to bottom were.

A Mineira. Always the best performers.

A Morena Carioca, 27 -- no kids, beautiful.

A loira -- hard body booty, maybe she is top slot.

Bombom. A negra with 1 kid.

Notes: The long time manager, Ivan was there, got his number. He was sitting in the smoking room the whole time with a man our driver identified as a human trafficking police officer.

Tradeandtravel bought a bottle of whiskey to drink from, which was a good move. I recommend engov recovery drinks which can be bought at any pharmacia.

Amenities as always were good, nice Sauna, which is where I should have started, but I got in there soon enough.

Shaved my balls, which is always a top priority with free razor blades in a tier 1 terma.

We rolled back out, and I ubered to VM, banged out a load, and returned to Barra, glad to sleep alone after 3 straight pernoites.

The girls are super spys, of course, and will always rat fuck whatever is not locked in a room. With the back to back to back pernoites, the girls get all jealous. I hate dealing with girls who get all sad and jealous and so on.

I've been taking more security notes which I will contribute on a separate post. Bubba Boy's guide, our bible, has the definitive guide for security.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2507579]Very, very, very, very few Thai or Filipina girls can compete with that. The only way SEA is better than Brazil is if you just have a thing for Asian girls. Otherwise Latin America, and Brazil in particular, rules! Germany is second with its FKK system.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2507615]Yeah.

Apparently the girls in those videos are not even pros. Just regular girls who compete to be in the videos. Shows you the status of the ganja rapper in this culture. IMHO, American porno producers do not have enough good Brazilian talent. Hint, hint, hint. And that music would be great for the scenes.[/QUOTE]Elisa Sanches told me that she really, really wanted to break into the American porno industry. She believed she would make more money, but the problem is that she doesn't speak English. She was told that without English, there was just no way she was going to become a star in American porn. Wouldn't even be hired to work. And that's a real issue. A key reason why there is a dearth of Brazilian talent in American porn is because the Brazilian girls don't speak English. Learn Portuguese? Somebody better learn some English if they want to work in America. Now me, I'm not trying to work in Brazil. I'm just trying to fuck aahahaha! Totally different story LOL!

General question. What is the Covid situation right now. Its still summer so guessing not bad?

[QUOTE=BMo814;2507539]Loved Rio and I didn't even get to any termas LOL. I'm not the type of monger that needs to fuck 8 times a day. I met a chick that was super wild on Twitter she is low key called herself a sugar baby but this girl likes to have fun and is bisexual. I had linked up with her first day in Rio and she said she had a friend that wanted to hang with us. So Saturday night I hung out with them all day, we went to sugar loaf then the beach then casa Blanca then to this crazy fuck motel called panda. I don't know Rio well at all but the girl told me it's near jardim botnico, had a pool, jacuzzi, sauna, booming sound system. If you want to go have a wild time with a couple chicks that's the place to go. It's a little pricey tho I think it was like $180 for 6 hours for the 3 of us. They probably got me I was hella drunk after drinking caipivodka on the beach, whiskey and cheap champagne in casa Blanca kkkkk. But was worth the fun. I gave but he the girls R1500 they were with me all day and put on a great show that night. I did take a chick from dolce vita one night but didn't really care for her she spent like an hour trying to explain to me how expensive things are in Rio, boo hoo hoo. Whole time I thinking girl I live in the Bay Area don't tell me anything about being expensive to live. Fucked her raw tho pernoite R800 she charged. Left a lot of things on the plate, I had fucked like 6 GP's in So Paulo before arriving to Rio and had the girl soon as I touched down so didn't make it to any termas or prives. Also spent a lot of time doing tourist stuff going to see Christo, sugar loaf, riding up and down Copacabana on those lime scooters. This one of the best trips. There is something for everybody. A friend of mine was in Rio with his girl and even got to get out of south zone with them and go to north zone and eat some good churrasco and other stuff my man was putting on the girl. I keep seeing guys talk about SA girl body types. There are plenty slim girl in Brazil only differences is they probably got some ass where SA girls got flat asses. I never been to SEA I don't really care for Asian women bcuz to me Latin women can not be beat. These Brazilian girl are hot as fuck, they talk so dirty while you fuck them and it's whatever your want to do, not any of them said you can't do this or you can't do that. Back in SP now tho ready to fuck a few more of my Twitter lovelies, try to make it to Scandallo and check it out one time for I go. If you are even slightly thinking about coming to Brazil come. Oh and try to learn a little Portuguese, you will make your life easier, it's not for them it's for you. Sorry Vagabundo we didn't get to link, partly because I didn't communicate much and partly because I already had so many plans. I didn't know it would be so easy to get what I needed without a Rio vet but it was. I'll be back in Feb. Tho and we definitely got to get up. I'm tryna make some orgies happen kkkk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2507539]Loved Rio and I didn't even get to any termas LOL. I'm not the type of monger that needs to fuck 8 times a day. I met a chick that was super wild on Twitter she is low key called herself a sugar baby but this girl likes to have fun and is bisexual. I had linked up with her first day in Rio and she said she had a friend that wanted to hang with us. So Saturday night I hung out with them all day, we went to sugar loaf then the beach then casa Blanca then to this crazy fuck motel called panda. I don't know Rio well at all but the girl told me it's near jardim botnico, had a pool, jacuzzi, sauna, booming sound system. If you want to go have a wild time with a couple chicks that's the place to go. It's a little pricey tho I think it was like $180 for 6 hours for the 3 of us. They probably got me I was hella drunk after drinking caipivodka on the beach, whiskey and cheap champagne in casa Blanca kkkkk. But was worth the fun. I gave but he the girls R1500 they were with me all day and put on a great show that night. I did take a chick from dolce vita one night but didn't really care for her she spent like an hour trying to explain to me how expensive things are in Rio, boo hoo hoo. Whole time I thinking girl I live in the Bay Area don't tell me anything about being expensive to live. Fucked her raw tho pernoite R800 she charged. Left a lot of things on the plate, I had fucked like 6 GP's in So Paulo before arriving to Rio and had the girl soon as I touched down so didn't make it to any termas or prives. Also spent a lot of time doing tourist stuff going to see Christo, sugar loaf, riding up and down Copacabana on those lime scooters. This one of the best trips. There is something for everybody. A friend of mine was in Rio with his girl and even got to get out of south zone with them and go to north zone and eat some good churrasco and other stuff my man was putting on the girl. I keep seeing guys talk about SA girl body types. There are plenty slim girl in Brazil only differences is they probably got some ass where SA girls got flat asses. I never been to SEA I don't really care for Asian women bcuz to me Latin women can not be beat. These Brazilian girl are hot as fuck, they talk so dirty while you fuck them and it's whatever your want to do, not any of them said you can't do this or you can't do that. Back in SP now tho ready to fuck a few more of my Twitter lovelies, try to make it to Scandallo and check it out one time for I go. If you are even slightly thinking about coming to Brazil come. Oh and try to learn a little Portuguese, you will make your life easier, it's not for them it's for you. Sorry Vagabundo we didn't get to link, partly because I didn't communicate much and partly because I already had so many plans. I didn't know it would be so easy to get what I needed without a Rio vet but it was. I'll be back in Feb. Tho and we definitely got to get up. I'm tryna make some orgies happen kkkk.[/QUOTE]Banging latinas is heaven. Love the way you monger bro. Kudos.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2507646]General question. What is the Covid situation right now. Its still summer so guessing not bad?[/QUOTE]Covid is a non-factor. The only time you will encounter it is on a TV screen. There is no better place to be right now than Brazil: with the exchange rate, the value is incredible, best since the very early nineties.

BTW: summer has not yet begun.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2507314]
At Mabs' we chilled, tradeandtravel had to get his sleep, so I ubered back to VM, got the negra, I shall designate her callsign Ana Foxxx, and took her to my pad and we fucked pernoite. She wouldn't let me cream pie her pussy, but we fucked bare. I paid her 300. We got up the next morning and I ubered her back to VM.
.[/QUOTE]Vagabundo, did you have to pay a fee to take the girl out of VM? Or did she leave at the end of her shift. I haven't taken a girl from VM in almost 15 years but I remember back then that the manager asked for money because the house was going to lose money because she was leaving work early. As a mater of fact, I know an Ex pat who got beat up in VM for doing exactly that, taking girls out of the houses and bringing them home for TLN.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2507539]Loved Rio and I didn't even get to any termas LOL. I'm not the type of monger that needs to fuck 8 times a day. I met a chick that was super wild on Twitter she is low key called herself a sugar baby but this girl likes to have fun and is bisexual. I had linked up with her first day in Rio and she said she had a friend that wanted to hang with us. So Saturday night I hung out with them all day, we went to sugar loaf then the beach then casa Blanca then to this crazy fuck motel called panda. I don't know Rio well at all but the girl told me it's near jardim botnico, had a pool, jacuzzi, sauna, booming sound system. If you want to go have a wild time with a couple chicks that's the place to go. It's a little pricey tho I think it was like $180 for 6 hours for the 3 of us. They probably got me I was hella drunk after drinking caipivodka on the beach, whiskey and cheap champagne in casa Blanca kkkkk. But was worth the fun. I gave but he the girls R1500 they were with me all day and put on a great show that night. I did take a chick from dolce vita one night but didn't really care for her she spent like an hour trying to explain to me how expensive things are in Rio, boo hoo hoo. Whole time I thinking girl I live in the Bay Area don't tell me anything about being expensive to live. Fucked her raw tho pernoite R800 she charged. Left a lot of things on the plate, I had fucked like 6 GP's in So Paulo before arriving to Rio and had the girl soon as I touched down so didn't make it to any termas or prives. Also spent a lot of time doing tourist stuff going to see Christo, sugar loaf, riding up and down Copacabana on those lime scooters. This one of the best trips. There is something for everybody. A friend of mine was in Rio with his girl and even got to get out of south zone with them and go to north zone and eat some good churrasco and other stuff my man was putting on the girl.[/QUOTE]How did you find those chicks in Twitter?

Any reviews on termas Cancun? My agent wants to take me there in Thursday night. So let's see how that works out.

Great info. Do you suggest purchasing some special health insurance? I've always wanted to go to Brazil and this looks it could be my last opportunity for a while. I'm really interested in the cultural things as much as the girls at my age which is 70 I'm just not going to be banging that many that often enough to have fun though....I really want to catch on the musical vibe

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2507659]Covid is a non-factor. The only time you will encounter it is on a TV screen. There is no better place to be right now than Brazil: with the exchange rate, the value is incredible, best since the very early nineties.

BTW: summer has not yet begun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2507726] Do you suggest purchasing some special health insurance? [/QUOTE]Seven Corner [URL]https://www.sevencorners.com/[/URL].

Make sure to pick the plan under Liaison Travel Plus which covers the Covid medical bills and cost was only about $20 for the whole week.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2507687]How did you find those chicks in Twitter?[/QUOTE]Make a NSFW Twitter account and just start adding GP's when they suggest people to know add them. Now there really isn't many on Twitter that are in Rio, most of them are in sp and passing through Rio. The one I was with lives in Rio, I lucked up so to speak because she spoke decent English and was a freak. It helped immensely although if there is a will there is a way and any of us can figure this out if we put our mind too it LOL. Sometime we overthink, read this forum and get to work. It's so many options I don't see how anyone could not like Brasil. As Golfhino said in Rio other than the mask you would know there was a pandemic, beaches, restaurants were full. When I left back to São Paulo the airport was full of people.

I picked her up in an uber and never left the car. Texted her on whatsapp the whole way.

I got to say, the talent in VM while rougher in the context is much, much, much better than Monte Carlo, which is generally old AF working girls who are rode hard and put away wet (though, arguably, safer since they are accountable to that house).

So Nina Deponca is over for pernoite, and we are banging the night away. Rio is the best place to be on the planet. Carpe Diem, memento mori.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2507663]Vagabundo, did you have to pay a fee to take the girl out of VM? Or did she leave at the end of her shift. I haven't taken a girl from VM in almost 15 years but I remember back then that the manager asked for money because the house was going to lose money because she was leaving work early. As a mater of fact, I know an Ex pat who got beat up in VM for doing exactly that, taking girls out of the houses and bringing them home for TLN.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2507659]Covid is a non-factor. The only time you will encounter it is on a TV screen. There is no better place to be right now than Brazil: with the exchange rate, the value is incredible, best since the very early nineties.

BTW: summer has not yet begun.[/QUOTE]Truth. I was there for about a week and stayed well under budget. Just be fucking careful. Even in Copacabana I kept my eyes open and took many precautions. I don't care what anyone says about Rio, it's not a safe destination. Stay the fuck out of centro unless you know what you are doing.

Well we should teach them American porno gangsta rap country music English to help the young wenches!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2507645]Elisa Sanches told me that she really, really wanted to break into the American porno industry. She believed she would make more money, but the problem is that she doesn't speak English. She was told that without English, there was just no way she was going to become a star in American porn. Wouldn't even be hired to work. And that's a real issue. A key reason why there is a dearth of Brazilian talent in American porn is because the Brazilian girls don't speak English. Learn Portuguese? Somebody better learn some English if they want to work in America. Now me, I'm not trying to work in Brazil. I'm just trying to fuck aahahaha! Totally different story LOL![/QUOTE]

Eliza Sanches is past her peak, or maybe just grown into it. I remember her at club red light in pra bandeira before she was a porn star.

Yasmin mineira, ditto. At least she really is 23 ish. Eliza is getting up there.

19 year olds are the sweet spot.

These are dog years.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2507048]I personally vouch for Rio Sex Site. I've personally used it and had good experiences. I'm like you in that I rarely ever use escort services. For a variety of reasons it's just not my thing. But those few times when I do go there, I don't want to deal with any bullshit, starting with "bait and switch". Rio Sex Site is the real deal. Try it. I think you will like it, as far as escort services go. I'm a hard judge when it comes to escort services. This is the only site that carries my personal seal of approval at this time. There are a couple of others in Brazil that come highly recommended, but I have not personally used those yet.

[URL]https://www.riosexsite.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2507578]I'm glad you enjoyed your trip. I'm glad you also managed to get in some of the "normal" tourist stuff. It took me at least 4 trips or so before I did that. I was too busy fucking and getting my nuts sucked LOL! Especially in the termas hahaha![/QUOTE]Yeah I woulda been mad with myself if I hadn't but now with that out the way next trip I'm going to get to know some of those termas and fuck some more cariocas.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2507579]Very, very, very, very few Thai or Filipina girls can compete with that. The only way SEA is better than Brazil is if you just have a thing for Asian girls. Otherwise Latin America, and Brazil in particular, rules! Germany is second with its FKK system.[/QUOTE]No doubt Brazil rules. The garotas are tigresses but the Romanians are sweethearts.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2507859]No doubt Brazil rules. The garotas are tigresses but the Romanians are sweethearts.[/QUOTE]I don't know that I would describe all the garotas as "tigresses" and all of the Romanians as "sweethearts". I've met some pretty sweetheart Brasilieras, and some dirty mercenary Romanians (I like).

So it's been a while since I've been to RDJ - 13 years. I stopped going when the exchange rate went to $#!T. I then developed an addiction to LOS & Colombia, and I can drive to Tijuana. Thus the long gap.

But now that the Fx rate is fantastic, I'm thinking about returning because, as you all know, there's nothing quite like a garota in the sack. But from what I've been reading, a lot has changed since 2007. While I did enjoy 4 X4 and some of the escorts, my absolute favorites were the FL's from HELP. I found some diamonds in that place which made for some great memories. Therefore, is there anywhere now in Rio that can compare to Help? It seems like all of the places up Atlantico have poor quality. What I want is a place where you can drink, dance, have fun flirting with the garotas, and then take one back for a TLN. Or is this just wishful thinking? PLEASE HELP!

[QUOTE=BigBopperino;2507991]What I want is a place where you can drink, dance, have fun flirting with the garotas, and then take one back for a TLN. Or is this just wishful thinking? PLEASE HELP![/QUOTE]That's what everyone wants. Work your magic, and make it happen. Reality is the exchange rate puts you in an oceanfront 4-star room for the price of a Motel6 back in your homeland. Find a girl for $12 in a Centro prive and pretend she's a freelancer while she bopperines you estilo namoradinha for as long as you keep paying her.

Thanks so much.

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2507740]Seven Corner [URL]https://www.sevencorners.com/[/URL].

Make sure to pick the plan under Liaison Travel Plus which covers the Covid medical bills and cost was only about $20 for the whole week.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigBopperino;2507991]So it's been a while since I've been to RDJ - 13 years. I stopped going when the exchange rate went to $#!T. I then developed an addiction to LOS & Colombia, and I can drive to Tijuana. Thus the long gap.

But now that the Fx rate is fantastic, I'm thinking about returning because, as you all know, there's nothing quite like a garota in the sack. But from what I've been reading, a lot has changed since 2007. While I did enjoy 4 X4 and some of the escorts, my absolute favorites were the FL's from HELP. I found some diamonds in that place which made for some great memories. Therefore, is there anywhere now in Rio that can compare to Help? It seems like all of the places up Atlantico have poor quality. What I want is a place where you can drink, dance, have fun flirting with the garotas, and then take one back for a TLN. Or is this just wishful thinking? PLEASE HELP![/QUOTE]If you can hang, Club Lux, around the corner from MABS is the place to be for FL's and TLN's at a good price. I say if you can hang, because the place really starts poppin around 4 am and it is open until 7 am.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2506522]About 80 m north of Detran is Club 116, on Rua the Conceio 116. A lowend puteiro. You have to be lucky to find something doable at Club 116. If this is the "secret terma", why call it "secret"? It's been there for several decades.[/QUOTE]This post would be the perfect definition of Fake News and not all accurate information. There is plenty of doable ladies in the "secret Terma". There are ladies there of all flavors and desires to be had, for as low as 60 r. Then at night, it is a straight party atmosphere, with the ladies dancing, drinking, and being joyful with the men in the club. If you want to go "do" one, just take her upstairs.

Try not to believe the Fake News and negative words some people report on this board, because they don't particularly care for a certain spot. Just go see for yourself. Everything is so cheap down there and you have nothing but time!

[QUOTE=Chris H;2508055]This post would be the perfect definition of Fake News and not all accurate information. There is plenty of doable ladies in the "secret Terma". There are ladies there of all flavors and desires to be had, for as low as 60 r. Then at night, it is a straight party atmosphere, with the ladies dancing, drinking, and being joyful with the men in the club. If you want to go "do" one, just take her upstairs.

Try not to believe the Fake News and negative words some people report on this board, because they don't particularly care for a certain spot. Just go see for yourself. Everything is so cheap down there and you have nothing but time![/QUOTE]
You're right on 1 point, "Try not to believe the Fake News".
If you manage to find doable girls at Club116, then that's just fine.
My question to Vagabundo was why he called the puteiro a "secret terma", when it's been around for a very long time. He gave his explanation.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2507758]Truth. I was there for about a week and stayed well under budget. Just be fucking careful. Even in Copacabana I kept my eyes open and took many precautions. I don't care what anyone says about Rio, it's not a safe destination. Stay the fuck out of centro unless you know what you are doing.[/QUOTE]Centro is where Rio de Janeiro works. Every day. What you mean to say is stay away from Centro after business hours, well maybe. Even then, I stayed at a Centro hotel, walked around after dark, dined and wined and still lived to tell the tale. But OK, Centro after dark. Maybe not everyone's cup of tea.

But avoiding Centro altogether is simply dumb. Even if you don't care about cheap Centro prives and termas (you should), it's a pleasure to just walk around, there are beautiful old buildings, churches, the monastery (St. Benedict?) was the most beautiful old thing I've seen outside Europe, not much from the outside but the interiors are stunning. Walk to Lapa, climb the stairs (standalone tourist site, BTW) to Santa Teresa, a run-down but historic neighborhood on the hill, ride the tram down, get lunch in Confeteria Colombo, if just for the ambience. I mean, seriously, take an organized tour if you're that concerned about safety, but don't dismiss Centro. You haven't really been to Rio without seeing the other side.

That Rio is not a safe destination. Totally true, though. Stay alert.

I agree.

This trip I stayed in the hotel at Rua the Inhuama 95 on advice from JimmyBoy99, and on previous trips had a apartment near Uruguiana for 3 months (easy walk to 4 x 4 etc).

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2508061]Centro is where Rio de Janeiro works. Every day. What you mean to say is stay away from Centro after business hours, well maybe. Even then, I stayed at a Centro hotel, walked around after dark, dined and wined and still lived to tell the tale. But OK, Centro after dark. Maybe not everyone's cup of tea.

But avoiding Centro altogether is simply dumb. Even if you don't care about cheap Centro prives and termas (you should), it's a pleasure to just walk around, there are beautiful old buildings, churches, the monastery (St. Benedict?) was the most beautiful old thing I've seen outside Europe, not much from the outside but the interiors are stunning. Walk to Lapa, climb the stairs (standalone tourist site, BTW) to Santa Teresa, a run-down but historic neighborhood on the hill, ride the tram down, get lunch in Confeteria Colombo, if just for the ambience. I mean, seriously, take an organized tour if you're that concerned about safety, but don't dismiss Centro. You haven't really been to Rio without seeing the other side.

That Rio is not a safe destination. Totally true, though. Stay alert.[/QUOTE]

Thanks to Chris H for speaking the truth. Lots of very top tier girls at the Secret Terma.

That said, I also want to say thanks to Sperto, who has thousands of posts, and from which I learned so much.

Looking forward to future reports from both of you.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2508059]You're right on 1 point, "Try not to believe the Fake News".
If you manage to find doable girls at Club116, then that's just fine.
My question to Vagabundo was why he called the puteiro a "secret terma", when it's been around for a very long time. He gave his explanation.[/QUOTE]

Good to know regaring Lux, sounds like a Mosaico for Zona Sul.

Now, tradeandtravel and I did a Paris Cafe recon, and I can't say enough good stuff about the place.

30 reais cover.

Pricing is 420 for a hour, 250 for the half.

Best talent of any terma.

The highlight is a "loira" (blonde) haired light skinned Mulata which is the look that works for me; but I also met a super hot real girl from Portugal!

As Hemingway wrote, "In Portugal, the wives are more beautiful than the mistresses" ("Death in the Afternoon".

Now, I am debating whether to go to Lux or Mosaico.

Whiskey Oscar Five Vagabundo Sends.

[QUOTE=ChrisH;2508052]If you can hang, Club Lux, around the corner from MABS is the place to be for FL's and TLN's at a good price. I say if you can hang, because the place really starts poppin around 4 am and it is open until 7 am.[/QUOTE]

Mosaico.

Zona Norte clubs like Casa de Festa Elite, Meier.

[QUOTE=BigBopperino;2507991]So it's been a while since I've been to RDJ - 13 years. I stopped going when the exchange rate went to $#!T. I then developed an addiction to LOS & Colombia, and I can drive to Tijuana. Thus the long gap.

But now that the Fx rate is fantastic, I'm thinking about returning because, as you all know, there's nothing quite like a garota in the sack. But from what I've been reading, a lot has changed since 2007. While I did enjoy 4 X4 and some of the escorts, my absolute favorites were the FL's from HELP. I found some diamonds in that place which made for some great memories. Therefore, is there anywhere now in Rio that can compare to Help? It seems like all of the places up Atlantico have poor quality. What I want is a place where you can drink, dance, have fun flirting with the garotas, and then take one back for a TLN. Or is this just wishful thinking? PLEASE HELP![/QUOTE]

Long Research has proven to me that the best way to learn American English is:

Tarantino films (some of which, like Django Unchained have plagiarized Mark Twain, "Huck Finn".

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2507761]Well we should teach them American porno gangsta rap country music English to help the young wenches![/QUOTE]

Whenever you go into a new putaria.

1. Get the Wifi.

2. Get the number of the Gerentao / towelboy / DJ.

Here is my interview checklist.

1 vc ten filhos?

2 onde vc mora.

3 vc faz sexo sem camisinha. Sou limpou. Ten ho provas.

4 vc gosta festa de swing? Vc gosta Suruba com Pretos?

Security checklist (continued).

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There are some things you can only do in Brazil.

- register a Brazilian whatsapp number (generally).

- get a login to the above sites (IP address, could use a VPN).

There are things you can do from anywhere.

- use a VPN to cyber stalk the best Miss Bumbum Brazil / Buttman model.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2508059]If you manage to find doable girls at Club116, then that's just fine.[/QUOTE]
Adding: There is a reason that Gpguia, Gparena and other local forums have Club 116 in their trash sections.
There are many trash puteiros in centro. They are fun and sometimes there are gems. Still the percentage of beautiful girls in trash puteiros is much lower than in privées.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2508061]

But avoiding Centro altogether is simply dumb. Even if you don't care about cheap Centro prives and termas (you should), it's a pleasure to just walk around, there are beautiful old buildings, churches, the monastery (St. Benedict?) was the most beautiful old thing I've seen outside Europe, not much from the outside but the interiors are stunning. Walk to Lapa, climb the stairs (standalone tourist site, BTW) to Santa Teresa, a run-down but historic neighborhood on the hill, ride the tram down, get lunch in Confeteria Colombo, if just for the ambience. I mean, seriously, take an organized tour if you're that concerned about safety, but don't dismiss Centro. You haven't really been to Rio without seeing the other side.

That Rio is not a safe destination. Totally true, though. Stay alert.[/QUOTE]I was told by enough locals, including my guide, that Centro should be avoided if I was alone. My guide was willing to take me to Lapa if I left my phone at home. This didn't fill me with confidence, and I had no need given the plethora of clinicas and termas in Copacabana. There's so much pussy in Copacabana and the price so low thanks to the exchange rate that the only time I left is to go to Sugerloaf and the Christ statue. The risk I would take to pay $10 instead of $20 dollars, for example, didn't seem worth it to me and the termas scene (while significantly more expensive) was more to my liking.

Only one local told me he knew places in Centro that would be 150 reals or less. I don't think he even meant brothels but bars with easy women.

Interestingly, my guide insisted favelas were much safer than any other place in Rio. He was going to take me to the Michael Jackson statue. In his view favelas had enough local gang enforcement that no one would touch a tourist because it would just draw attention. I have my doubts about this.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2508106]Adding: There is a reason that Gpguia, Gparena and other local forums have Club 116 in their trash sections.
There are many trash puteiros in centro. They are fun and sometimes there are gems. Still the percentage of beautiful girls in trash puteiros is much lower than in prives.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with Sperto here. I went to all these centro trash clubs last year and this year. The majority of the girls 80-90% are old, out of shape, past their prime hardcore pros. I got lucky last year and stumbled on two gems, one at rua alfândega, 119 and the other at rua Uruguaiana, 210. This year no luck at all. At one of the trash clubs I was literally taken hostige by an ugly fat hardcore pro negra. When I told her no, she asked me to give her R10 and when I ignored her and walked away she cused me out. Most of them have a jaded look to them like they don't care.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2508061]Centro is where Rio de Janeiro works. Every day. What you mean to say is stay away from Centro after business hours, well maybe. Even then, I stayed at a Centro hotel, walked around after dark, dined and wined and still lived to tell the tale. But OK, Centro after dark. Maybe not everyone's cup of tea.

But avoiding Centro altogether is simply dumb. Even if you don't care about cheap Centro prives and termas (you should), it's a pleasure to just walk around, there are beautiful old buildings, churches, the monastery (St. Benedict?) was the most beautiful old thing I've seen outside Europe, not much from the outside but the interiors are stunning. Walk to Lapa, climb the stairs (standalone tourist site, BTW) to Santa Teresa, a run-down but historic neighborhood on the hill, ride the tram down, get lunch in Confeteria Colombo, if just for the ambience. I mean, seriously, take an organized tour if you're that concerned about safety, but don't dismiss Centro. You haven't really been to Rio without seeing the other side.

That Rio is not a safe destination. Totally true, though. Stay alert.[/QUOTE]As note of caution about Centro at night, this was posted in Portuguese on social media by a Carioca in reply to anther who was saying he was ASSALTADO! And 'phone stolen in Lapa.

Violence in Rio is getting worse! 15 days ago, I had the same experience at Largo the Carioca, it was a Monday night, around 21:40, I was tired and heading towards the Menezes Cortes terminal to catch my bus and return home after a long working day. But on the way, I was approached by an FDP who was therefore holding a pistol and had to hand over the cell phone I had just bought. I am using my tablet momentarily as a cell phone, but the revolt still plagues me! At least, I didn't get hurt and it was just a big scare!

For those not in the know, FDP meaning is is filho the puta or son of a *****. Its a know fact thief's the world over get busy this time of year, they need money to buy nice gifts for mom, wife and the amante (side chick).

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2508119]I was told by enough locals, including my guide, that Centro should be avoided if I was alone. My guide was willing to take me to Lapa if I left my phone at home. This didn't fill me with confidence,[/QUOTE]This is said by locals in damn near every big city in the world. Again, never had a problem. If it is beyond your comfort level though, better safe than sorry. Here is a shot of the Cathedral that I took while walking in that area back in February late at night with my Galaxy Note. Seems pretty peaceful to me. But one man's peaceful is another man's dangerous as hell. I get that.

I stayed in Centro my last two trips (Close to the Carioca train station). During the daytime, Centro is awesome!! 5 minute walk from my hotel and I was viewing the lineup in my favorite prives. 10 minute walk to the termas. Many different choices for places to eat and beautiful women walking to work. That being said, at night time, things change. Whenever I left the termas between 10-11 PM, I always had my head on a swivel as I walked back to my hotel. The street lighting is very low and it is quite dark and deserted on many of the main roads. There were a number of streets where I could have very easily have been robbed and there would have been no witnesses! I don't recommend staying / walking around Centro at night alone, unless you know how to carry yourself and know what to look for.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2508207]This is said by locals in damn near every big city in the world. Again, never had a problem. If it is beyond your comfort level though, better safe than sorry. Here is a shot of the Cathedral that I took while walking in that area back in February late at night with my Galaxy Note. Seems pretty peaceful to me. But one man's peaceful is another man's dangerous as hell. I get that.[/QUOTE]Once again, a Wonderful response Mr. E!

Hello everyone,

Plan to go to Rio for the first time in mid-December, have been to Fortaleza three times. I've read a bit about it on this forum but I still have some questions, everything is welcome.

Is there anything to do in the Rio at these strange times?

Am I planning to rent an apartment instead of a hotel, in which area do you recommend me to stay?

Which bar / club do you recommend me to go for a walk? Am someone who would rather not go to sauna / sex clubs and pay by the hour!

All information are welcome. Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Sinbad76;2508303]Hello everyone,

Plan to go to Rio for the first time in mid-December, have been to Fortaleza three times. I've read a bit about it on this forum but I still have some questions, everything is welcome.

Is there anything to do in the Rio at these strange times?

Am I planning to rent an apartment instead of a hotel, in which area do you recommend me to stay?
[/QUOTE]Stay in Copacabana and you can go to the beach every day.

[QUOTE]
Which bar / club do you recommend me to go for a walk? Am someone who would rather not go to sauna / sex clubs and pay by the hour!

All information are welcome. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]So you want free sex? I'm not sure what you're referring to. It's dirt cheap in Brazil. I was pleasantly surprised at how little I paid and how much pussy I was getting.

[QUOTE=Sinbad76;2508303]Hello everyone,

Plan to go to Rio for the first time in mid-December, have been to Fortaleza three times. I've read a bit about it on this forum but I still have some questions, everything is welcome.

Is there anything to do in the Rio at these strange times?

Am I planning to rent an apartment instead of a hotel, in which area do you recommend me to stay?

Which bar / club do you recommend me to go for a walk? Am someone who would rather not go to sauna / sex clubs and pay by the hour!

All information are welcome. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Are you interested in some touristy stuff? Do Sugarloaf, Corcovado, enjoy the beaches, go on some walking tours, etc. If you're not pressed for time, take a day tour to Buzios. Better yet, wife up before going to Buzios. Even stay there for a couple of days. It's a peninsula with some excellent beaches and great nightlife. You can rent a million-dollar-view villa and live like a king for a few days, and its quite affordable. Cariocas call Buzios a paraiso and for a good reason, too.

Back to Rio.

Stay in Copacabana (more touristy) or Ipanema (safer).

As to the rest. I'm not sure what you're looking for. If you don't want to pay "by the hour" you can pay for 30 minutes.

Just kidding. Do you speak Portuguese? Are you young and pretty? For regular, non-pro nightlife, go to Lapa, especially if you like Samba. This is the bedrock of Rio nightlife. Google Lapa clubs to get some ideas.

Keep your wits about you at all times. Don't get drunk on public. Don't leave your drinks unattended. Rio is awesome, but it's not a safe city, no matter how much we love it here.

Enjoy your trip!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2508388]Are you interested in some touristy stuff? Do Sugarloaf, Corcovado, enjoy the beaches, go on some walking tours, etc. If you're not pressed for time, take a day tour to Buzios. Better yet, wife up before going to Buzios. Even stay there for a couple of days. It's a peninsula with some excellent beaches and great nightlife. You can rent a million-dollar-view villa and live like a king for a few days, and its quite affordable. Cariocas call Buzios a paraiso and for a good reason, too.

Back to Rio.

Stay in Copacabana (more touristy) or Ipanema (safer).

As to the rest. I'm not sure what you're looking for. If you don't want to pay "by the hour" you can pay for 30 minutes.

Just kidding. Do you speak Portuguese? Are you young and pretty? For regular, non-pro nightlife, go to Lapa, especially if you like Samba. This is the bedrock of Rio nightlife. Google Lapa clubs to get some ideas.

Keep your wits about you at all times. Don't get drunk on public. Don't leave your drinks unattended. Rio is awesome, but it's not a safe city, no matter how much we love it here.

Enjoy your trip![/QUOTE]Is the Buzios nightlife really that great? I've never been there, and always thought of it as kind of a quiet, sleepy place. Thus, the need to take a girl there with you versus finding somebody there. What's there to do at night in Buzios (non-mongering)?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2508388]Are you interested in some touristy stuff? Do Sugarloaf, Corcovado, enjoy the beaches, go on some walking tours, etc. If you're not pressed for time, take a day tour to Buzios. Better yet, wife up before going to Buzios. Even stay there for a couple of days. It's a peninsula with some excellent beaches and great nightlife. You can rent a million-dollar-view villa and live like a king for a few days, and its quite affordable. Cariocas call Buzios a paraiso and for a good reason, too.[/QUOTE]Buzios is a really nice place. Different beaches on the various fingers of the hilly peninsula. Lots of water activities. Decent restaurants.

You hit the nail on the head. Wifey up before going. Rio working girls love being invited to Buzios. The nightlife generally caters to young, affluent Brazilians. You would need a lot of game to pick-up a civilian in Buzios. The civilian girls are likely with groups which adds more challenge of breaking them away from the pack. While it's only about 100 miles from Rio Centro, it can be very slow getting there. For that reason, I wouldn't recommend a day trip.

As far as safety in Rio, there is no reason not to Uber / taxi door-to-door at night. Periodically, we have these discussions and some members post about their street wits and never ever having an issue. Either have I, but I go the way of being as safe as possible in any city.

Went there last night and here is my review:

We walked in and got an entry card. No cover charge. Go upstairs and change entry card for a locker key with your number. Don't have to change into the robe if you don't want to. Only one level is open — the boate room. Approx 12 Girls standing around and a few guys. Small bar. Good looking women.

Rates start at 270 for 30 mins and go up depending on time and type of room.

I ended up talking to girl and decided to take her for the night. Tall and with short hair, she had quite the face and figure. Damage was 1000 reais without paying a fee to take her out. Drink damage at the place was 170 reais.

We went for some drinks at the posto in front of my hotel and then headed back to the room.

After showering together, we start on the bed with me DATY and then she sits on my face and has her first orgasm. She wants to fuck so she jumps off the bed, digs thru her purse and can't find a condom in her purse or her clothes bag.

After a lengthy discussion, she agreed to do it BB and CIM but not inside her. Agreed and done!

Go to sleep. Wake up and do it again and then she leaves. Packing up my bag and onwards to São Paulo for my weekend with two girls in the room.

I had a colleague in Brazil, he always put his condoms in the window in the sun so they would be really dry and hopefully break when he f*cked a girl. I always thought he was weird. I have anguish when a condom breaks when f*cking a puta.

What I'm reading in the forum it seems like barebacking is popular, even i VM. It makes me wonder if people doesn't know the situation of venereal diseases in Brazil? Never mind, to each his own.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Sperto;2508584]I had a colleague in Brazil, he always put his condoms in the window in the sun so they would be really dry and hopefully break when he f*cked a girl. I always thought he was weird. I have anguish when a condom breaks when f*cking a puta.

What I'm reading in the forum it seems like barebacking is popular, even i VM. It makes me wonder if people doesn't know the situation of venereal diseases in Brazil? Never mind, to each his own.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Sperto, I feel the same way every time I read about a monger who gives oral sex in a terma "DATY". My stomach turns thinking about the herpes sores they will have on their lips in a couple of months!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2508588]Sperto, I feel the same way every time I read about a monger who gives oral sex in a terma "DATY". My stomach turns thinking about the herpes sores they will have on their lips in a couple of months![/QUOTE]Been mongering for six years in Latin America. I don't give DATY. I have 2-3 hookers I will bareback regularly over a calendar year. Haven't caught an STD yet. It's out there but not all that common.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2508588]Sperto, I feel the same way every time I read about a monger who gives oral sex in a terma "DATY". My stomach turns thinking about the herpes sores they will have on their lips in a couple of months![/QUOTE]
No way (or at least rarely) I would daty a GP. I want them fresh. That's why I go Centro-mongering early 10-11 AM.
I remember once in VM. Me and dozen of gringos in one of the corner bars (U-alley). As always I kept my eyes on the girls arriving to VM. A 10-point girl, beautiful , slim and huge natural tits arrived. A Help-girl that worked extra at VM. R$25/30 min. Great f*ck and i finished on her huge tits. She didn't wash her afterwards. She just rubbed the sperm over her tits. When returning to the bar, one guy from US the quickly took her. He soon returned and bragged about how he had sucked and licked those big tits...

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2508388]Are you interested in some touristy stuff? Do Sugarloaf, Corcovado, enjoy the beaches, go on some walking tours, etc. If you're not pressed for time, take a day tour to Buzios. Better yet, wife up before going to Buzios. Even stay there for a couple of days. It's a peninsula with some excellent beaches and great nightlife. You can rent a million-dollar-view villa and live like a king for a few days, and its quite affordable. Cariocas call Buzios a paraiso and for a good reason, too.

Back to Rio.

Stay in Copacabana (more touristy) or Ipanema (safer).

As to the rest. I'm not sure what you're looking for. If you don't want to pay "by the hour" you can pay for 30 minutes.

Just kidding. Do you speak Portuguese? Are you young and pretty? For regular, non-pro nightlife, go to Lapa, especially if you like Samba. This is the bedrock of Rio nightlife. Google Lapa clubs to get some ideas.

Keep your wits about you at all times. Don't get drunk on public. Don't leave your drinks unattended. Rio is awesome, but it's not a safe city, no matter how much we love it here.

Enjoy your trip![/QUOTE]Thanks for information, I will probably find an apartment sometime in the turn of Copaabana or Ipanema. What I mean not pay for, an hour, is that I want to meet girl and after a few drinks take to apartment with me of course with a fee. Do you hear a Mbap bar or Balkony bar are where the girls come, is that right, or do you have the tip somewhere else?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2508460]Is the Buzios nightlife really that great? I've never been there, and always thought of it as kind of a quiet, sleepy place. Thus, the need to take a girl there with you versus finding somebody there. What's there to do at night in Buzios (non-mongering)?[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, the nightlife scene in Buzios is quite cozy compared to Rio, and it's mostly bars with live music that tend to cater to younger and beautiful crowd. There is no open mongering scene in Buzios, although I'm seeing some online options now that weren't available just a few years back.

As to what to do in Buzios? It's a nature paradise. Beach-hopping, boat-cruising. The latter can get quite fun depending on the crowd, and we met some cool people on these sailings. Then there are tiny all-terrain vehicles they call "jippes," there are a lot of fun, can't leave the town limits, though.

Buzios is great for a few days. Anything longer, and I'd get bored.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2508504]Buzios is a really nice place. Different beaches on the various fingers of the hilly peninsula. Lots of water activities. Decent restaurants.

You hit the nail on the head. Wifey up before going. Rio working girls love being invited to Buzios. The nightlife generally caters to young, affluent Brazilians. You would need a lot of game to pick-up a civilian in Buzios. The civilian girls are likely with groups which adds more challenge of breaking them away from the pack. While it's only about 100 miles from Rio Centro, it can be very slow getting there. For that reason, I wouldn't recommend a day trip.

As far as safety in Rio, there is no reason not to Uber / taxi door-to-door at night. Periodically, we have these discussions and some members post about their street wits and never ever having an issue. Either have I, but I go the way of being as safe as possible in any city.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Uber costs next to nothing. No reason to stay inside even after dark.

As to Buzios, yes, you'd definitely need more game there than in Rio. Would be an uphill battle even with Portuguese or Spanish (plenty are tourists from Chile and Argentina). I'd say, 90% of that crowd are couples and families.

To each their own, I just wanted to comment on the irony that almost every monger wants bbj then says ewww to the guy that eats a GP pussy. Funny how they don't think about getting the same herpes on their dick from the girl that has sucked a million dicks with no condom. LOL.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2508732]To each their own, I just wanted to comment on the irony that almost every monger wants bbj then says ewww to the guy that eats a GP pussy. Funny how they don't think about getting the same herpes on their dick from the girl that has sucked a million dicks with no condom. LOL.[/QUOTE]I munch tute puss and ass. I DFK too when the mood strikes. Never got "the herpes" yet. No two-faced hypocrisy here LOL!

[QUOTE=BMo814;2508732]To each their own, I just wanted to comment on the irony that almost every monger wants bbj then says ewww to the guy that eats a GP pussy. Funny how they don't think about getting the same herpes on their dick from the girl that has sucked a million dicks with no condom. LOL.[/QUOTE]Or the chick that makes you put on a condom after she already ate the disease.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2508732]To each their own, I just wanted to comment on the irony that almost every monger wants bbj then says ewww to the guy that eats a GP pussy. Funny how they don't think about getting the same herpes on their dick from the girl that has sucked a million dicks with no condom. LOL.[/QUOTE]Most dicks go into mouths bare and most dicks go into pussies covered yet the same mongers who DFK say ewww to DATY.

The responses from Chris H are most useful, as he was recently actually in Rio, compared to other members of this forum, who have not been here since before the Pandemic.

The market has changed, due to the pandemic. Higher quality girls, for example, are available at the secret terma, than might be in normal times or historically, and thus the intrepid non native monger -- including Fuckamefdig, TrueBlue, Chris H, and several of his friends, have discovered good value (zero cover, 140 for a session) at the secret terma, while some members not in Rio now sit thousands of miles away and snipe.

I see a recent spot quote of 5. 17 for the USD BRL exchange rate. I wonder how far the rate will fall and where it will average / stabilize over the next year.

The best quality talent that I have seen my monger buddies source here in Rio in recent months has been over badoo or tinder. Fuckamefdig found some stunners on badoo, and tradeandtravel found a kira noir quality 18 yo on tinder, reportedly BBFS. I need to up my badoo / tinder game for the non pro, semi pro.

Is it true that the real girl is always more expensive than the non pro?

So I have a dupla lined up for tonight. I am pairing a Nia Nacci who is the only girl I ever pay 600 pernoite with nina deponca who I usually pay 300. Somehow, they conspired and one came back and proposed 450 for each. Obviously, they talked, which is troubling, but understandable.

I get burned out by too much mongering and recharge by boxing / lifting / swimming at the pool.

[QUOTE=ChrisH;2508298]Once again, a Wonderful response Mr. E![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2508758]Or the chick that makes you put on a condom after she already ate the disease.[/QUOTE]LOL. Word up.

Midori, one of my mini relationships this year, got me going in a good practice -- regular testing if you are going to bareback.

Its been discussed here.

That's the answer to the question how one should bareback.

Be a good boy, get tested, and insist on current tests from the playmates.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2508778]LOL. Word up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sinbad76;2508606]Thanks for information, I will probably find an apartment sometime in the turn of Copaabana or Ipanema. What I mean not pay for, an hour, is that I want to meet girl and after a few drinks take to apartment with me of course with a fee. Do you hear a Mbap bar or Balkony bar are where the girls come, is that right, or do you have the tip somewhere else?[/QUOTE]Mabs, dolce vita, they out walking around I stayed in a place close to mabs and dolce vita and they were on Atlantic Ave cat calling, you will have no problems finding what you want. Idk if they charge to take them out of casa blanca one of the other members I'm sure knows but it was one in there sooo fine but I just didn't have enough time to try her out but the 2 nights I went there were some sexy ass girls.

32. Wear safety glasses, even at night to stop bullet fragments.

33. Carry tampons to use as bandages to stop bleeding. Carry boxing wraps / bandages too. Discuss and ideally practice buddy aid, and know self aid for a bullet wound.

34. Best trauma hospital in centro is in the block of rua the republica 13 next to the bombeiros militar (fire department).

35. Not that I have ever done it in real life, only in training, but if a aggressor points gun at you with intent to fire, and it is an automatic, charge him, and push the slide back to dislodge the round from firing position. Then tie him up and leave.

36. Carry zip ties (see 35).

37. You can buy a plate carrier at the cross street of the secret terma. Even a macbook pro in a plate carrier will significantly slow down a 9 mm bullet, if you don't have level 3 trauma plates.

38. always carry multiple wallets, one most handy with lots of $2 reais notes, and give it up right away. If you do carry a valid credit card on you, wrap it in electrical tape or duct tape (also can be used to tie up someone).

39. I always note where the police are, and never walk further than half a block from a cop in centro / lapa. My plan, which I discuss with my wingmen, is: if in a fight or attacked, get to a cop, call a uber, and leave. Always use minimal force, only defensive force.

[QUOTE=MrMatrix;2508184]As note of caution about Centro at night, this was posted in Portuguese on social media by a Carioca in reply to anther who was saying he was ASSALTADO! And 'phone stolen in Lapa.

Violence in Rio is getting worse! 15 days ago, I had the same experience at Largo the Carioca, it was a Monday night, around 21:40, I was tired and heading towards the Menezes Cortes terminal to catch my bus and return home after a long working day. But on the way, I was approached by an FDP who was therefore holding a pistol and had to hand over the cell phone I had just bought. I am using my tablet momentarily as a cell phone, but the revolt still plagues me! At least, I didn't get hurt and it was just a big scare!

For those not in the know, FDP meaning is is filho the puta or son of a *****. Its a know fact thief's the world over get busy this time of year, they need money to buy nice gifts for mom, wife and the amante (side chick).[/QUOTE]

39. Be prepared to get a lawyer. The below is from a advisory for carrying in a rich world country, but it applies in Brazil. If you carry a gun (or even if you have one for home defense).

There are 3 self-defense pillars you must be prepared for.

If you lack any of these, it's like going into battle with a broken shield.

-Be Mentally Prepared.

First and foremost, your mind must be ready.

Take a class.

Think through the difficult choices in advance.

Be situationally aware.

Learn how to defend your home and your loved ones.

Know what to do and what not to do when using a gun in self-defense.

-Be Physically Prepared.

Being physically prepared means training to be ready to avoid a potentially dangerous situation or stop a violent attacker as a last resort.

It means having a reliable gun and knowing how to use it.

Learn how to harden their homes and how to be safer in public.

Because effective training habits keep you sharp and prepared.

-Be Legally Prepared.

Being legally prepared means knowing the laws in your state.

It means knowing where you can and cannot carry.

It means doing everything you can to avoid having to use your gun, such as giving a verbal command and shooting only if you cannot escape and you fear for your life or the lives of innocent people.

And it means thinking through what happens after a legal self-defense incident.

[QUOTE=MrMatrix;2508184]As note of caution about Centro at night, this was posted in Portuguese on social media by a Carioca in reply to anther who was saying he was ASSALTADO! And 'phone stolen in Lapa.

Violence in Rio is getting worse! 15 days ago, I had the same experience at Largo the Carioca, it was a Monday night, around 21:40, I was tired and heading towards the Menezes Cortes terminal to catch my bus and return home after a long working day. But on the way, I was approached by an FDP who was therefore holding a pistol and had to hand over the cell phone I had just bought. I am using my tablet momentarily as a cell phone, but the revolt still plagues me! At least, I didn't get hurt and it was just a big scare!

For those not in the know, FDP meaning is is filho the puta or son of a *****. Its a know fact thief's the world over get busy this time of year, they need money to buy nice gifts for mom, wife and the amante (side chick).[/QUOTE]

Is 4 x 4 open back up yet.

No.

Tradeandtravel hired a driver supposedly knowledgeable who took us by this week past, and it was closed af.

Best centro terma is 65 which is where duda the long time towel girl from 4 x4 who lives in Transamerica and has become my buddy works.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2508835]Is 4 x 4 open back up yet.[/QUOTE]

How many mongers are in the 666 club. 6 digits in the bank, 6 inches, and 6 minutes of sex before you get tired because you are getting old or are old. Are all these women too much even tho you now have the amount of money you wish you had when you started mongering.

Trip Report.

So I spent the last few days with hotside girl # 2. We hit it really good together, and ended up spending a few days together. We stayed 3 days in Copacabana followed by 3 days in Ipanema. We are the same age and fairly like minded, so it didn't felt I was spending time with a garota de programa but rather a good friend. We ended up visiting a few tourists spots in Rio, hitting the beaches, restaurants and shopping malls. We had a lot of fun. Our initial deal was 2000 reals for 1 week, which is a fairly good discount from her normal pernoite of 1300 and even her reduced pernoite of 800. Things went so good, I even decided to cancel my stay at Transamerica Barra and instead go to Buzios with her and stay at one of the most luxurious hotel there in the presidential suite. I believe I am fairly good at judging people and knowing whether we are compatible for longer time or not (GFE or more), I have traveled fairly good over the recent years, and met 150+ girls and a few of them were long multiple days stays and never had any issue whatsoever (SEA Asia). Now this hotside girl #2, I had the best sex with her, period. When drunk, she would do sex in a way I never experienced before, it is wild, spontaneous, dirty, she wants me to slap her and treat her real rough, it became all BBFS pussy, with CIP if I wanted towards the end. CIM / Rimming was no issue for her, and overall felt almost another dimension. I would rate her a good 8. 5/10 for looks and 9. 5/10 for sex. She would sleep by hugging and kissing, and genuinely had fun with me messing around. But, and big but, I noticed rapidly that she had a weird character / attitude when not drunk. I was made aware by her she did some substances before, which I don't touch at all, and she did some green smoking at the beach, which I tolerated although I didn't like (but it's 2020 I guess? I putted her strange character on perhaps over excitation or withdrawal syndrome, but since I am not familiar with that, I didn't think too much about it since most of the day she would act normal and real fun, and the sex was just the best ever. She did irritate me a few times, but I let it pass, however on the 1st day in Buzios things got heated initially, followed by calming down (she was very weird), but we had fun at the pool and amazing sex. At night, as we go to Rua das Pedras for nightclubs, it turns out most of them are closed, so she wanted to eat sushi, which we did. And then she acted very, very weird, saying I didn't trust her and things like that. Long story short, ended up paying her and sending her back to Copa at 1 AM from Buzios. Only rational thing I can think of, this girl is a psycho, and I should have taken the red flags seriously. Call it double personality, addiction withdrawal syndrome or some other mental issue, I don't know. But this girl made my trip to Rio from being an amazing once in a life experience with her to mediocre in just a few moments. All that to just say that every experience is unique, and Rio for one is not the Rio for the others. Psycho girls are everywhere I assume, however I personally didn't met any in SEA yet, but did in Brazil fairly quickly. Unlucky maybe. Be very careful when choosing a girl for long long time, applicable globally not only to Brazil. A bit sad, but life continues and more experiences to come. Going to spend a few days to resource in Buzios before exploring Rio again for couple of days and then off to Sao Paulo. Lesson learned. Peace out.

Nia and Nina canceled, probably due to rain.

I went to centro to check out lapa irish bar, which was ok.

I went to mabs, met up with a friend who likes hiking. Ex 4 x4 fanny was again there, and she looks 27 to my friend, and she is in fact very hot. Huge natural breasts on a pretty black girl, with a super ass.

I went by olegario in barra, which was hopping with non pros, some dancing, other than that just young Brazilians partying. I got a number of a beautiful morena from parana who live in volta redondo of zona norte.

The address for a place to test is.

Av. Dos Italianos, 480 - Rocha Miranda.

Rio de Janeiro. RJ.

Go during working hours with an ID.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2508784]Midori, one of my mini relationships this year, got me going in a good practice -- regular testing if you are going to bareback.

Its been discussed here.

That's the answer to the question how one should bareback.

Be a good boy, get tested, and insist on current tests from the playmates.[/QUOTE]

Just returned back to Rio via sleeper bus from Santa Catarina. Met this chica. 2 k for 7 days. 19 and stacked ass. Every guy in the hotel and street was checking her ass. I couldn't take my hands off. Bubbly personality, 176 cm. We had sex in the pool, cummed inside her pussy. Etc. The women of the South are beautiful. We stayed in the hotel for most of the time, partied with some psychedelics etc. I was upset because I didn't get to fuck her as good as I usually do and had a tough time getting hard initially. For a girl. Like her you need to provide good dick. I took some Cialis and it changes my mood. Sort of more tense, quiet and my anus starts to throb painfully. I smoke too much tobacco these days so that doesn't help. She entered my room at 7 am from a party. Always singing and dancing. She was more mature than 19. I think I had some personal. Conflicts, because I wanted to fuck her longer and her pussy was hurting which was annoying me. She reminded me of Alexis Texas. Anyhow, for some reason she blocked me on Instagram, not sure why because things were very well, expect for maybe the last few days where I probably got a bit weird agitated as I wasn't fucking like I wanted to. This is a chick I would want to go music festivals with and have a good time. She was very well connected. Not speaking the same language creates some conflict over the long duration, but nothing to complain about. Balneario is known for sugar babies I think. Anyhow, the south is a nice getaway. I'm still trying to figure out the appeal of Rio for. Me, but can say this chick was one of the reasons I came to Brazil. To fuck a pretty little thing. She's currently unresponsive on whatsapp (I messaged om various #s). She had left to a beach party and I think there was a big weekend of partying in general. Sadly on would have loved to join her and have a better vibe, but I wasn't feel all that great, plus communicating with her Brazilian friends would have been uncomfortable.

I've had plenty of hot girls that aren't really pros since my stay here and I enjoy that.

As for the mongering in BC there isn't much. I really do believe the sexiest talent is outside Rio in then south or north and would love to explore and travel with a babe for a week or so. Nice way to learn the culture.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2509000]Trip Report.

So I spent the last few days with hotside girl # 2. We hit it really good together, and ended up spending a few days together. We stayed 3 days in Copacabana followed by 3 days in Ipanema. We are the same age and fairly like minded, so it didn't felt I was spending time with a garota de programa but rather a good friend. We ended up visiting a few tourists spots in Rio, hitting the beaches, restaurants and shopping malls. We had a lot of fun. Our initial deal was 2000 reals for 1 week, which is a fairly good discount from her normal pernoite of 1300 and even her reduced pernoite of 800. Things went so good, I even decided to cancel my stay at Transamerica Barra and instead go to Buzios with her and stay at one of the most luxurious hotel there in the presidential suite. I believe I am fairly good at judging people and knowing whether we are compatible for longer time or not (GFE or more), I have traveled fairly good over the recent years, and met 150+ girls and a few of them were long multiple days stays and never had any issue whatsoever (SEA Asia). Now this hotside girl #2, I had the best sex with her, period. When drunk, she would do sex in a way I never experienced before, it is wild, spontaneous, dirty, she wants me to slap her and treat her real rough, it became all BBFS pussy, with CIP if I wanted towards the end. CIM / Rimming was no issue for her, and overall felt almost another dimension. I would rate her a good 8. 5/10 for looks and 9. 5/10 for sex. She would sleep by hugging and kissing, and genuinely had fun with me messing around.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FlcnHvy;2509148]Just returned back to Rio via sleeper bus from Santa Catarina. Met this chica. 2 k for 7 days. 19 and stacked ass. Every guy in the hotel and street was checking her ass. I couldn't take my hands off. Bubbly personality, 176 cm. We had sex in the pool, cummed inside her pussy. Etc. The women of the South are beautiful. We stayed in the hotel for most of the time, partied with some psychedelics etc. I was upset because I didn't get to fuck her as good as I usually do and had a tough time getting hard initially. For a girl. Like her you need to provide good dick. I took some Cialis and it changes my mood. Sort of more tense, quiet and my anus starts to throb painfully. I smoke too much tobacco these days so that doesn't help. She entered my room at 7 am from a party. Always singing and dancing. She was more mature than 19. I think I had some personal. Conflicts, because I wanted to fuck her longer and her pussy was hurting which was annoying me. She reminded me of Alexis Texas. Anyhow, for some reason she blocked me on Instagram, not sure why because things were very well, expect for maybe the last few days where I probably got a bit weird agitated as I wasn't fucking like I wanted to. This is a chick I would want to go music festivals with and have a good time. She was very well connected. Not speaking the same language creates some conflict over the long duration, but nothing to complain about. Balneario is known for sugar babies I think. Anyhow, the south is a nice getaway. I'm still trying to figure out the appeal of Rio for. Me, but can say this chick was one of the reasons I came to Brazil. To fuck a pretty little thing. She's currently unresponsive on whatsapp (I messaged om various #s). She had left to a beach party and I think there was a big weekend of partying in general. Sadly on would have loved to join her and have a better vibe, but I wasn't feel all that great, plus communicating with her Brazilian friends would have been uncomfortable..[/QUOTE]Where did you find her? Escort web site?

Can anyone recommend a travel / medical insurance provider for a foreign tourist in Brazil?

All travel insurances in the UK are voided because Brazil is on the home office red list of dangerous places, so I need something from another country, preferably Brazil itself.

[QUOTE=FlcnHvy;2509148]Just returned back to Rio via sleeper bus from Santa Catarina. Met this chica. 2 k for 7 days. 19 and stacked ass. Every guy in the hotel and street was checking her ass. I couldn't take my hands off. Bubbly personality, 176 cm. We had sex in the pool, cummed inside her pussy. Etc. The women of the South are beautiful. [/QUOTE]Stayed in Balneario for 3 days years ago. From Iguassu on a sleeper bus to Curitiba (couldn't sleep because he drove like a fucking maniac), boarded a train in Curitiba down to Paranagua. From Paranagua on 2 buses to Blumenau for the Octoberfest, then from Blumenau to Balneario. I loved that little resort town. Reminds me Copa somewhat with its beach line and Avenida Atlantica.

[QUOTE=FlcnHvy;2509148]

As for the mongering in BC there isn't much. I really do believe the sexiest talent is outside Rio in then south or north and would love to explore and travel with a babe for a week or so. Nice way to learn the culture.[/QUOTE]At the time there was one brothel for the whole town -- quite pricey too, but the girl was worth it. My taxista didn't know anything else. Surely, there are more options now.

Give Rio a chance. There are plenty of talent in Rio that comes from outside Rio. You'd be amazed.

How did you find yourself in Balneario?

[QUOTE=IncelSam86;2509205]Can anyone recommend a travel / medical insurance provider for a foreign tourist in Brazil?

All travel insurances in the UK are voided because Brazil is on the home office red list of dangerous places, so I need something from another country, preferably Brazil itself.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.sevencorners.com/coronavirus[/URL]

Actually took a gamble on one of the girl I met on the sugar sites (seeking, tinder (a bit). I was getting a little restless in Brazil after banging quite a bit here over 3 months. I acted pretty quickly, hoped on the night bus. The sleeper is very comfortable and an okay option when immediate flight bookings are sometimes 5-10 x more than if you book in advance. Anyhow, it turned into quite a great experience. She said she'd stay with me for a few more days. Didn't ask for much, when she easily is a lot of worth more. I may post a few photos at the end of trip of some of the girls.

I am actually at this moment learning Portuguese. I think it's a great way to pick up regular chicks and enjoy going out more. I was inspired by the recent trip, and think it would be super attractive to a Brazilian women if you can hold a conversation; and just overall more enjoyable on longer dates.

Plus, IMO it's relatively easy to have a chic live with you for some time and give her a 'small' salary. I went on a hooker banging spree for a bit, but I really enjoy something about that innocent and normal girl vibe. The type of Brazilian chic you meet when you are both travelling in your non-native country. Still on the search for a girl that I can float around with for a bit, but it's also good to keep in contact with some of the woman I've had great experiences with.

Actually, I started to realize the Curitiba area had smoking women, when I met my first smoke show in Rio who was from there. I thought she was a 'baddie' (slang term for those instagram hotties you see). She spoke English well, with an American accent.

Yes, it is a 'resort town' and I felt it had some of that copa charm as well. Supposedly they call it Brazilian Dubai because a lot of Emirati's go down. And it's a hot spot for boating and big parties of that sort. Not sure how much the boats cost to rent, but it looks like a fun time.

Yes, Rio is great and it does get women from everywhere. My type is of the branca so in the southern regions I believe it's more concentrated, probably why I am attracted to the region. Every 'new' experience I have or additional woman I enjoy time with, I realize Brazil has endless amounts of women, it is pretty crazy. They never stop. I need to keep track of how many I've banged in my 3.5 months here. I'd say over 40 confidently. But it could be 60-70, maybe even 80. And there is still more flavors and personalities to explore.

Thanks for the flashback!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2509281]Stayed in Balneario for 3 days years ago. From Iguassu on a sleeper bus to Curitiba (couldn't sleep because he drove like a fucking maniac), boarded a train in Curitiba down to Paranagua. From Paranagua on 2 buses to Blumenau for the Octoberfest, then from Blumenau to Balneario. I loved that little resort town. Reminds me Copa somewhat with its beach line and Avenida Atlantica.

At the time there was one brothel for the whole town -- quite pricey too, but the girl was worth it. My taxista didn't know anything else. Surely, there are more options now.

Give Rio a chance. There are plenty of talent in Rio that comes from outside Rio. You'd be amazed.

How did you find yourself in Balneario?[/QUOTE]

For those on the ground or back from there, is it worth going to Brazil in a couple months, or should I wait till the vaccine is out and available. I was waiting for 4 x4 to open to buy a ticket, but it's still closed. I am someone who likes the termas and that atmosphere and am not interested in the private apartments and looking for that needle in a haystack.

Since I can only bust one time a day now I have no motivation for a cheap experience in a dumpy apartment. I would like something close to the Help experience as far as nightlife goes. Has something like that on a smaller scale ever opened back up. What do you guys suggest.

Hi all,

I have a day long layover in Rio coming up on December 25th. What's the most user-friendly terma that would be open in the morning / early afternoon?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2508996]How many mongers are in the 666 club. 6 digits in the bank, 6 inches, and 6 minutes of sex before you get tired ....[/QUOTE]I am none of these. However, I´m 66.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2509312]For those on the ground or back from there, is it worth going to Brazil in a couple months, or should I wait till the vaccine is out and available. I was waiting for 4 x4 to open to buy a ticket, but it's still closed. I am someone who likes the termas and that atmosphere and am not interested in the private apartments and looking for that needle in a haystack.

Since I can only bust one time a day now I have no motivation for a cheap experience in a dumpy apartment. I would like something close to the Help experience as far as nightlife goes. Has something like that on a smaller scale ever opened back up. What do you guys suggest.[/QUOTE]I'm a lot like you. I also don't have it in me for more than one bust a day (maybe 2, but she'd have to be sweet and stunning). And I also don't want to waste my vacation time on cheap apartments or hotel rooms. And I also loved 4 x4. More than any other terma, actually.

Still, 4 x4 closure wouldn't stop me. But I won't go to Brazil before the vaccine is out and we know it's safe. I mean kudos to brave men who keep going at it no matter what, but I'd rather live vicariously through them at the time being, rsrsrs.

[QUOTE=NMMooreland;2509406]Hi all,

I have a day long layover in Rio coming up on December 25th. What's the most user-friendly terma that would be open in the morning / early afternoon?[/QUOTE]LOL any other day besides Christmas Day you might have some options. The only thing I could suggest is going to Copacabana and get a cheap room and start calling escorts who knows you might find a nice Jewish GDP.

[QUOTE=FlcnHvy;2509295]Actually took a gamble on one of the girl I met on the sugar sites (seeking, tinder (a bit). I was getting a little restless in Brazil after banging quite a bit here over 3 months. I acted pretty quickly, hoped on the night bus. The sleeper is very comfortable and an okay option when immediate flight bookings are sometimes 5-10 x more than if you book in advance. Anyhow, it turned into quite a great experience. She said she'd stay with me for a few more days. Didn't ask for much, when she easily is a lot of worth more. I may post a few photos at the end of trip of some of the girls.

I am actually at this moment learning Portuguese. I think it's a great way to pick up regular chicks and enjoy going out more. I was inspired by the recent trip, and think it would be super attractive to a Brazilian women if you can hold a conversation; and just overall more enjoyable on longer dates.[/QUOTE]Nice story, and one to remember for sure. Certainly try to learn some Portuguese if you're spending that much time in Brazil. Don't have to be fluent, but yes, I believe it can improve the relationship, and girls always appreciate the effort.

The South of Brazil is very different. Blumenau didn't even feel like a Brazilian city, it felt pretty German.

[QUOTE=FlcnHvy;2509295]Actually, I started to realize the Curitiba area had smoking women, when I met my first smoke show in Rio who was from there. I thought she was a 'baddie' (slang term for those instagram hotties you see). She spoke English well, with an American accent.

Yes, it is a 'resort town' and I felt it had some of that copa charm as well. Supposedly they call it Brazilian Dubai because a lot of Emirati's go down. And it's a hot spot for boating and big parties of that sort. Not sure how much the boats cost to rent, but it looks like a fun time.

Yes, Rio is great and it does get women from everywhere. My type is of the branca so in the southern regions I believe it's more concentrated, probably why I am attracted to the region.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info on a new area. Balneario sounds interesting. It looks more glitzier than Copa in photos. Perhaps it's more similar to Barra and / or Miami Beach. Copa has a bit of that rundown look on some parts of the strip.

Please do me a favor. For information and continuity purposes, let us know where you are finding these girls. You seem to be interested in the Southern brancas. Maybe it's me, but I'm not sure if you are finding them in Rio, in the South or both. How did you find them? I am genuinely interested.

My personal favorites are the Mineiras. There are many beautiful women in Belo Horizonte the capital of Minas Gerais. There are also plenty of brancas. It's not the best locale for mongering, but there are pick-up clubs where the local girls are very friendly. And yes, some Portuguese goes a long way.

As a neighboring state, you run into many Mineiras in Rio trying to make a buck. One time, I saw a beautiful Mineira at the old Help Disco. I did not session with her. A week later I randomly saw her and her civilian friends in a classy bar in Belo. I discreetly spoke with her outside the bathroom. She was so pleased that I didn't come up to her group and mention Rio and Help. As luck would have it, I made a lovely friend in Belo.

Meeting the Southern brancas in Rio was sort of hit or miss for me as far as performance. Good by worldwide standards, but not as dependably passionate as other Brasileiras. My branca chasing buddy swore by them. In my experience, the most reliably passionate performers were the local Cariocas. They seem to take on sex as if it were a competition.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2509484]
My personal favorites are the Mineiras. There are many beautiful women in Belo Horizonte the capital of Minas Gerais. There are also plenty of brancas. It's not the best locale for mongering, but there are pick-up clubs where the local girls are very friendly. And yes, some Portuguese goes a long way.
.[/QUOTE]Man, I got to agree with you!

I just met this Mineira in SP a few weeks ago, and damnnnnn is she sweet, beautiful, sexy, hot!

18 years old with big brown Bambi like eyes, just looking back at me saying, teach me! LOL.

Funny thing is that I met her in a cheap place in Centro.

I was on my way to see another girl when I spotted this one, and I thought OMG what I have I stumbled upon here!

IMO, hotter than any garota at Scandallo, etc and way less mileage and soooo sweet, with just a few days in SP.

Sometimes we hit the Monger jackpot, and on this day, I was the lucky one.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2509484]My personal favorites are the Mineiras. There are many beautiful women in Belo Horizonte the capital of Minas Gerais. There are also plenty of brancas. It's not the best locale for mongering, but there are pick-up clubs where the local girls are very friendly. And yes, some Portuguese goes a long way. Meeting the Southern brancas in Rio was sort of hit or miss for me as far as performance. Good by worldwide standards, but not as dependably passionate as other Brasileiras. My branca chasing buddy swore by them. In my experience, the most reliably passionate performers were the local Cariocas. They seem to take on sex as if it were a competition.[/QUOTE]Interesting that you should make this post. During my very first trip to Rio, it seemed like every top girl I was fucking was from Belo Horizonte! So much so that I thought about going there to monger. But, after doing my research, I was not convinced that Belo Horizonte would be a good mongering destination. I know there is a scene there, but I just not have felt enough of a draw to go there. I did start going to Sao Paulo and made it to Porto Alegre once. I have had very, very good luck with the southern brancas or "gauchas" as they like to refer to themselves as. Extremely pretty and very dirty! Just how I like LOL! Had anal sex with almost all of them haha!

Well 777 with goals of 888,999, etc haha.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2508996]How many mongers are in the 666 club. 6 digits in the bank, 6 inches, and 6 minutes of sex before you get tired because you are getting old or are old. Are all these women too much even tho you now have the amount of money you wish you had when you started mongering.[/QUOTE]

I mentioned I've been using SA. I put some work into tinder / instagram and had 3 connections (not worth the work IMO). I also had a few threesomes with legit / chill girls I met through the sites. I've had Brancas mostly in Rio travelling from SP or other regions. This last one I gambled on and took a trip out. It's sparked interest to explore the other vast areas of Brazil when the time comes.

I agree on Minas. I posted earlier that I met a chick and fucked her for 3 hours straight (literally). They have a crew of minas girls that post on photoacomphantes. And they are 18-21 (legit). They've had 3-4 girls roll through on that site, for 200/ HR. Although when I met Manu she was charging 150. Absolute steal. Although what is 50 r to bang a tight cutie. One of the newer girls is Agatha (18) com local in Barra. I have not seen here, but the photos are legit if it's the same crew. Which I'm close to 100% it is (same number as Manu from previous). The same style of photos posted sequentially will be the crew from Minas. I actually fucked up and wish I stayed inn contact with Manu, because they have crews of girls in that region who like to fuck and dance dirty. I think if you figure out the Minas scene it could be a goldmine as well. For my taste of women at least.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2509484]Thanks for the info on a new area. Balneario sounds interesting. It looks more glitzier than Copa in photos. Perhaps it's more similar to Barra and / or Miami Beach. Copa has a bit of that rundown look on some parts of the strip.

Please do me a favor. For information and continuity purposes, let us know where you are finding these girls. You seem to be interested in the Southern brancas. Maybe it's me, but I'm not sure if you are finding them in Rio, in the South or both. How did you find them? I am genuinely interested.

My personal favorites are the Mineiras. There are many beautiful women in Belo Horizonte the capital of Minas Gerais. There are also plenty of brancas. It's not the best locale for mongering, but there are pick-up clubs where the local girls are very friendly. And yes, some Portuguese goes a long way.

As a neighboring state, you run into many Mineiras in Rio trying to make a buck. One time, I saw a beautiful Mineira at the old Help Disco. I did not session with her. A week later I randomly saw her and her civilian friends in a classy bar in Belo. I discreetly spoke with her outside the bathroom. She was so pleased that I didn't come up to her group and mention Rio and Help. As luck would have it, I made a lovely friend in Belo.[/QUOTE]

Mineiras are always best!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2509522]Well 777 with goals of 888,999, etc haha.[/QUOTE]

Never heard of this spot, Blumenau. Didn't know what you guys were talking about until I stumbled upon this video. Look like a place to check out.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hz4CSnPOe70[/URL]

Also Balnerio Cambori - [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balneário_Camboriú[/URL].

Looks like a nice place to visit.

Thanks for mentioning these areas. I guess something to check out on a non-mongering excursion.

[QUOTE=NMMooreland;2509406]Hi all, I have a day long layover in Rio coming up on December 25th. What's the most user-friendly terma that would be open in the morning / early afternoon?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RioBob;2509473]LOL any other day besides Christmas Day you might have some options. The only thing I could suggest is going to Copacabana and get a cheap room and start calling escorts who knows you might find a nice Jewish GDP.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with RB here. Brazilians (Rio) Cariocas specifically are very religious and family oriented and of all days you may be out of luck mongering. You are going to have to do some deep dive in tinder / twitter / Instagram / etc. And escort sites mentioned on forum prior to going and hopefully find a lonely provider who doesn't have family / friends to be with. I really don't think termas would be open. But I could be wrong possibly someone who is on the ground now who is visiting these places may be able to chime in on the open / close schedule of these places.

[URL]https://rove.me/to/rio-de-janeiro/christmas-celebrations[/URL]

That panda motel is in Botafogo excellent place for a dupla, just looked at the website it's like R600 for 6 hours on the weekend. After I sobered up the next day I remembered why the bill was so high, we also ordered a bunch of food and drinks.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2509640]I have to agree with RB here. Brazilians (Rio) Cariocas specifically are very religious and family oriented and of all days you may be out of luck mongering. You are going to have to do some deep dive in tinder / twitter / Instagram / etc. And escort sites mentioned on forum prior to going and hopefully find a lonely provider who doesn't have family / friends to be with. I really don't think termas would be open. But I could be wrong possibly someone who is on the ground now who is visiting these places may be able to chime in on the open / close schedule of these places.

[URL]https://rove.me/to/rio-de-janeiro/christmas-celebrations[/URL][/QUOTE]Ah makes sense they'd be closed for Christmas. Unfortunately only really interested in the Termas. Was in Rio a few years back and did the Tinder thing, and I'll be in Sao Paulo the rest of the week with something off SA / the clinicas so not itching to get a fix like that LOL. What about December 31st though? I can schedule my flight back from SP to get in early if the termas might be open then.

Changed money on Friday at a place where I have been going to for years in Copacabana. Got an rate for $1000 USD at 5.20. Here are the details since I can't post pictures of the business card:

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/8LNyQJ4k84ETAJv58[/URL] San Diego Exchange and Tourism.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 945 - Loja the. Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22060-001, Brazil.

+55 21xxxx116.

Last night creampied Monique 3 times.

Tonight it's skin Kira noir diamond.

It's like 3 creampies for 19 year old Rihanna.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2509522]Well 777 with goals of 888,999, etc haha.[/QUOTE]

Three creampies in Rihanna Jr's 19 year old pussy.

She protests her little pussy hurts after three loads.

It's all good.

Look gents, you got to go find your own, but it's not hard in Rio. I am not passing along deets. Clues, but not numbers, haha.

Here's one clue.

Avoid the high price places. Last week, with all the high spending at Paris, Monte Carlo etc, I got to say, that is not my scene.

The value investor looks for diamonds (skin diamonds) among the dark side termas, and then gets the best to the love shack.

Copacabana, IMHO, sucks. The quality is like warmed over dogshit. Old, jaded, working girls I've seen for over 5 years congregate at Mabs, and cluster in Monte Carlo. Solarium is fresher, but still way over priced, and the girls at Paris, same thing, they are anchored on 500 Reais per hour, go fuck yourself for those prices. I'm paying 400 reais pernoite, BBFSCIP, and ass if I want, but I spare her because I don't like causing pain.

Maybe I am going soft but I didn't fuck her ass.

I guess in terms of mongering I am learning I am best off with a few chosen wingmen, and not everyone.

On the way back from centro, the uber driver was pulled over by 4 military cops with assault rifles (AR variant, and a FN FAL). The girl was smoking on the ride up towards Mare. Anyway, the cops got us out of the car, searched us. Lesson learned? Don't smoke while in uber.

Oh well, all is well in Rio.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2503881]Kira Noir Skin Diamond Rihana, my latest girl, is 19, and took it up the ass with pain, and three creampies in her pussy.

I am compensating her with 400 reais.

What is that 80 dollars.

And I cook her salmon and shrimp.

I do whatever the fuck she wants, as long as she keeps spreading those porn star perfect cheeks.

I am in love.

We all love good pics.

We call this cut of meat mignon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2509733]Changed money on Friday at a place where I have been going to for years in Copacabana. Got an rate for $1000 USD at 5.20. Here are the details since I can't post pictures of the business card:

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/8LNyQJ4k84ETAJv58[/URL] San Diego Exchange and Tourism.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 945 - Loja the. Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22060-001, Brazil.

+55 21xxxx116.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. That's better than the current FX rate (5. 12). Wow!

[QUOTE=NMMooreland;2509723]Ah makes sense they'd be closed for Christmas. Unfortunately only really interested in the Termas. Was in Rio a few years back and did the Tinder thing, and I'll be in Sao Paulo the rest of the week with something off SA / the clinicas so not itching to get a fix like that LOL. What about December 31st though? I can schedule my flight back from SP to get in early if the termas might be open then.[/QUOTE]I have no way of knowing, but logically speaking I think you'll have a better chance on the 29th.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2509629]Never heard of this spot, Blumenau. Didn't know what you guys were talking about until I stumbled upon this video. Look like a place to check out.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hz4CSnPOe70[/URL]

Also Balnerio Cambori - [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balnerio_Cambori[/URL].

Looks like a nice place to visit.

Thanks for mentioning these areas. I guess something to check out on a non-mongering excursion.[/QUOTE]Wow, the Octoberfest seems to have grown leaps and bounds since I visited. I mean, it did have a nice parade, but nothing that huge. Thanks for posting the link.

Now I almost regret that I've already made plans for next October. Octoberfest surely seems like fun.

There is now an airport close to both Balneario and Blumenau. Makes for an easy hop.

Just got back from Brazil for the first time. Had a great trip and was able to visit with four of my friends. Did all the tourist stuff and of course the mongering activities as well. The trip was for two weeks and we traveled from Sao Paulo to Rio then to Floripa. All of us with the exception of one came back with Covid.

Be careful out there gentlemen. With the contact tracing it seems as though the first person on out group caught it the 2nd day that we were there. We wore the mask in public which is required, but around each other the mask were taken off and that is most likely how it has spread so fast amongst the group.

It was passed on to friends and family that we meet while visiting the cities. We all thought it was bullshit and the others were joking. We passed all the temperature checks at the restaurants, malls and airports.

Once getting back to the states we got tested just to make sure. All came back positive. I suffered the most since my covid turned to pneumonia. Others had lost their sense of smell and taste and the other was asymptomatic. I had to go to the hospital for pneumonia, bedrest for 8 days and lost 12 lbs from the ailment.

This virus spreads with continuous exposure to the virus. Be careful who you are around for long periods of time. Rio is a hotbed for the Covid virus.

Finally it is almost happening.

Next Monday will be in Rio.

Was little bit concerned with rising number of cases and potential lockdown there.

Everything still working in Rio?

Bought myself travel insurances for first time in my life, hope will not jinx myself.

Will share experiences as soon as I arrive and bang first chick).

Considering lack of any Portuguese I guess best chances should be within online fishing game.

At the rate some prives come and go, latest information crucial especially when you're planning your day around getting there when they open to be the first one in. In Rio Branco 185 alone recently there was a sign Alugar in one and another no answer. A lot of wasted elevator time without the latest info.

I land in Rio on 11th of January.

Booked Airbnb apartment in Ipanema. I am very excited but nervous at the same time. This will be my first ever time on the S. American continent.

Is Uber 'easy' to take from RIOgaleão airport? One thing that really winds me up and stresses me out is arriving and getting hassled by illegal scamming taxi men. I just want to use uber app straight away. Is there a specified location where they go to pick up?

Can anyone recommend a beautiful, clean and quiet beach to relax on? Ipanema and Copa don't look very much like my scene.

[QUOTE=LooseChange72;2510071]Just got back from Brazil for the first time. Had a great trip and was able to visit with four of my friends. Did all the tourist stuff and of course the mongering activities as well. The trip was for two weeks and we traveled from Sao Paulo to Rio then to Floripa. All of us with the exception of one came back with Covid..[/QUOTE]What were the exact dates of your trip?

I am loading up on Vitamin the + Zinc before I go to Brazil to boost the immune system.

For what it's worth. Here are some studies.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Supplements/comments/k9v24g/41_studies_including_2_randomized_studies_prove/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2509893]Avoid the high price places. Last week, with all the high spending at Paris, Monte Carlo etc, I got to say, that is not my scene. The value investor looks for diamonds (skin diamonds) among the dark side termas, and then gets the best to the love shack. Copacabana, IMHO, sucks. The quality is like warmed over dogshit. Old, jaded, working girls I've seen for over 5 years congregate at Mabs, and cluster in Monte Carlo. Solarium is fresher, but still way over priced, and the girls at Paris, same thing, they are anchored on 500 Reais per hour, go fuck yourself for those prices. I'm paying 400 reais pernoite, BBFSCIP, and ass if I want, but I spare her because I don't like causing pain. Maybe I am going soft but I didn't fuck her ass.[/QUOTE]Are you fucking top shelf brancas for that price? Because if you are OK. That's what I like to butt fuck the most. But seems to me that mongers like you and Sperto prefer the negras. I'm not saying one is better than the other. I'm just talking about finding what one likes at a favorable price. If you can do that in abundance hanging on "the dark side" and at "trash clubs", OK. But remember not everybody else likes what you like. I found one gem just one time at 502, which although I don't think falls into the "trash" category, it's definitely lower end and heading in that direction. So, what kind of tutes are you fucking for 400 reals pernoite? If you tell me hot brancas, then I'm afraid I'm not going to believe you my friend hahaha! Maybe some of us need to choose more expensive options to get what we want in Rio hehehe!

[QUOTE=IncelSam86;2510101]I land in Rio on 11th of January.

Booked Airbnb apartment in Ipanema. I am very excited but nervous at the same time. This will be my first ever time on the S. American continent.

Is Uber 'easy' to take from RIOgaleo airport? One thing that really winds me up and stresses me out is arriving and getting hassled by illegal scamming taxi men. I just want to use uber app straight away. Is there a specified location where they go to pick up?

Can anyone recommend a beautiful, clean and quiet beach to relax on? Ipanema and Copa don't look very much like my scene.[/QUOTE]Uber works great in Rio. Just enter your destination and look for the car that is assigned to you.

[QUOTE=IncelSam86;2510101]I land in Rio on 11th of January.

Booked Airbnb apartment in Ipanema. I am very excited but nervous at the same time. This will be my first ever time on the S. American continent.

Is Uber 'easy' to take from RIOgaleo airport? One thing that really winds me up and stresses me out is arriving and getting hassled by illegal scamming taxi men. I just want to use uber app straight away. Is there a specified location where they go to pick up?

Can anyone recommend a beautiful, clean and quiet beach to relax on? Ipanema and Copa don't look very much like my scene.[/QUOTE]Be careful with the taxis in Rio, I didn't have an honest one the whole time. Uber is the way to go. My Airbnb was in Copa and I regret not taking public transit there. I told taxi to stop at a Cambio because SDU didn't have a cambio, so he conveniently forgot to stop and demanded dollars afterwards. But To his surprise I had a small amount of reals on me tho. Funny how I caught a taxi back to the airport and the fare was more than double the original price, I'm riding the train next time.

A morena clara / very very light mulata.

And there are a number of brancas at the secret terma, one "angel" who Trueblue did in fact do comes to mind.

Like the other mongers you mention, I appreciate your comments. That said, I will say that in comparison to the Monte carlo / solarium zona sul top tier girls, the dark side (IE, North of Av Presidente Vargas) termas top 10% are better, all day long. In part because they are younger, hungrier, and hotter.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2510152]Are you fucking top shelf brancas for that price? Because if you are OK. That's what I like to butt fuck the most. But seems to me that mongers like you and Sperto prefer the negras. I'm not saying one is better than the other. I'm just talking about finding what one likes at a favorable price. If you can do that in abundance hanging on "the dark side" and at "trash clubs", OK. But remember not everybody else likes what you like. I found one gem just one time at 502, which although I don't think falls into the "trash" category, it's definitely lower end and heading in that direction. So, what kind of tutes are you fucking for 400 reals pernoite? If you tell me hot brancas, then I'm afraid I'm not going to believe you my friend hahaha! Maybe some of us need to choose more expensive options to get what we want in Rio hehehe![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;2510164]Be careful with the taxis in Rio, I didn't have an honest one the whole time. Uber is the way to go. My Airbnb was in Copa and I regret not taking public transit there. I told taxi to stop at a Cambio because SDU didn't have a cambio, so he conveniently forgot to stop and demanded dollars afterwards. But To his surprise I had a small amount of reals on me tho. Funny how I caught a taxi back to the airport and the fare was more than double the original price, I'm riding the train next time.[/QUOTE]I never had any problem with a taxi driver being crooked in Rio ever. The same thing can't be said for other cities around the world that I have been to. The problem that I had the last time is Rio is that too many of the dummies didn't seem to know where the hell they were going! I got some idiot who couldn't find Centaurus! It's only one of the most famous cat houses in the entire world! I finally told his dumb ass to let me out. I paid him what I thought was fair (he didn't complain), caught another taxi, and I was putting on a tattered Centaurus robe in a flash! LOL! Had another guy miss a turn when I was trying to get to 4 X 4. We ended up in the worst centro traffic jam ever! I paid him, got the fuck out, and walked to 4 X 4. Steamed that all the best pussy was being taken while I was stuck in a fucking traffic jam due that bozo! I will look into using Uber more the next time. Does Brazil have Lyft as well?

I commend to all of us this documentary on netflix.

I lost a longer post on this but I would post lots of pics of skin kira noir diamond rihanna, but I don't want to fuck up my game with her just yet. Maybe in a PM.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2510152]Are you fucking top shelf brancas for that price? Because if you are OK. That's what I like to butt fuck the most. But seems to me that mongers like you and Sperto prefer the negras. I'm not saying one is better than the other. I'm just talking about finding what one likes at a favorable price. If you can do that in abundance hanging on "the dark side" and at "trash clubs", OK. But remember not everybody else likes what you like. I found one gem just one time at 502, which although I don't think falls into the "trash" category, it's definitely lower end and heading in that direction. So, what kind of tutes are you fucking for 400 reals pernoite? If you tell me hot brancas, then I'm afraid I'm not going to believe you my friend hahaha! Maybe some of us need to choose more expensive options to get what we want in Rio hehehe![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IncelSam86;2510101]Can anyone recommend a beautiful, clean and quiet beach to relax on? Ipanema and Copa don't look very much like my scene.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I can get on this wavelength, but Barra is a cleaner and quieter beach. It's a slight trek to get out there several days from Ipanema, but it's not difficult.

I enjoy the masses on the Copa and Ipanema beaches. Ipanema is perhaps my favorite. The Brasileiras in their tiny bikinis are amazing for the libido. Ipanema in my opinion is a cleaner beach.

Since you are staying in Ipanema, this is what I would suggest. Grab your beach towel and walk to Posto 9 (lifeguard station) in Ipanema. If it's not your scene, keep walking west. Leblon Beach seems to be a bit quieter.

[QUOTE=NMMooreland;2509723]Ah makes sense they'd be closed for Christmas. Unfortunately only really interested in the Termas. Was in Rio a few years back and did the Tinder thing, and I'll be in Sao Paulo the rest of the week with something off SA / the clinicas so not itching to get a fix like that LOL. What about December 31st though? I can schedule my flight back from SP to get in early if the termas might be open then.[/QUOTE]Did you had luck in tinder?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2510183]A morena clara / very very light mulata. And there are a number of brancas at the secret terma, one "angel" who Trueblue did in fact do comes to mind.[/QUOTE]I like to butt fuck those morenas too. Come on Vagabundo help a monger out. Help a fellow senior monger out. I'll buy you some drinks or whatever. A meal. Help a monger out with the "secret terma". I need access to some young, eager, new branca bunda how I used to get when I first started going to Rio. Tell me in private. I won't tell. Other mongers on here told me secrets, and I didn't tell one time. Not once. They're reading right now, and they know I'm telling the truth. Help a monger out hommes aahahaha!

[QUOTE=IncelSam86;2510101]I land in Rio on 11th of January.

Booked Airbnb apartment in Ipanema. I am very excited but nervous at the same time. This will be my first ever time on the S. American continent.

Is Uber 'easy' to take from RIOgaleo airport? One thing that really winds me up and stresses me out is arriving and getting hassled by illegal scamming taxi men. I just want to use uber app straight away. Is there a specified location where they go to pick up?

Can anyone recommend a beautiful, clean and quiet beach to relax on? Ipanema and Copa don't look very much like my scene.[/QUOTE]Unless something has changed in the last several months, getting Uber from GIG is a piece of cake. When you connect to Uber on the airport WiFi, it'll tell you to go to the Departure level. You just choose the pickup point closest to you, and that's it.

The beaches: neither is clean, but Ipanema beach is cleaner, at least looked that way to me.

If the quality of water is important you might want to hop to Barra. Or, as a compromise try Leblon. I enjoyed the beach in front of Sheraton. It's shaped like a cove and even though it looks private, it's not. No young bundas though, there are very few people, mostly families and Sheraton guests. IIRC, there is a bus stop right in front of the hotel.

Well I said already the ISG member Fuckamefdig named it the secret terma because he did not want it overrun by gringos.

You're mocking me which is why valuable contributors like Fuckamefdig don't contribute.

My response again is watch the social dilemma.

By our nature we mongers want to be dominant.

When are you in Rio next to get the poison out?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2510224]I like to butt fuck those morenas too. Come on Vagabundo help a monger out. Help a fellow senior monger out. I'll buy you some drinks or whatever. A meal. Help a monger out with the "secret terma". I need access to some young, eager, new branca bunda how I used to get when I first started going to Rio. Tell me in private. I won't tell. Other mongers on here told me secrets, and I didn't tell one time. Not once. They're reading right now, and they know I'm telling the truth. Help a monger out hommes aahahaha![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LooseChange72;2510071]Just got back from Brazil for the first time. Had a great trip and was able to visit with four of my friends. Did all the tourist stuff and of course the mongering activities as well. The trip was for two weeks and we traveled from Sao Paulo to Rio then to Floripa. All of us with the exception of one came back with Covid.

Be careful out there gentlemen. With the contact tracing it seems as though the first person on out group caught it the 2nd day that we were there. We wore the mask in public which is required, but around each other the mask were taken off and that is most likely how it has spread so fast amongst the group.

It was passed on to friends and family that we meet while visiting the cities. We all thought it was bullshit and the others were joking. We passed all the temperature checks at the restaurants, malls and airports.

Once getting back to the states we got tested just to make sure. All came back positive. I suffered the most since my covid turned to pneumonia. Others had lost their sense of smell and taste and the other was asymptomatic. I had to go to the hospital for pneumonia, bedrest for 8 days and lost 12 lbs from the ailment.

This virus spreads with continuous exposure to the virus. Be careful who you are around for long periods of time. Rio is a hotbed for the Covid virus.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2510224]I like to butt fuck those morenas too. Come on Vagabundo help a monger out. Help a fellow senior monger out. I'll buy you some drinks or whatever. A meal. Help a monger out with the "secret terma". I need access to some young, eager, new branca bunda how I used to get when I first started going to Rio. Tell me in private. I won't tell. Other mongers on here told me secrets, and I didn't tell one time. Not once. They're reading right now, and they know I'm telling the truth. Help a monger out hommes aahahaha![/QUOTE]He gave the address in post #22032 on 11/28. It's 114 Rua de Conceicao, next to the brothel at 116 Rua de Conceicao.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2510224]Help a monger out with the "secret terma". [/QUOTE]I think secret terma is not a secret. It is just a nickname because another member said not to reveal it or something like that.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2510152]Are you fucking top shelf brancas for that price? Because if you are OK. That's what I like to butt fuck the most. But seems to me that mongers like you and Sperto prefer the negras. I'm not saying one is better than the other. ................[/QUOTE]I have found no difference between brancas and negras in Brazil. The body type is the same, similar shape and all firm. The only difference is the color of the skin.

Hi folks,

Considering renting Airbnb or other apartments for my upcoming trip. Thinking of renting in Barra the Tijuca because since a lot of escort sites seem to show that a lot of talent is located in this area. I've never rented Airbnb in Brazil. What are the typical guest policies? Is it possible to bring girls over to Airbnbs? Any recommendations on good upscale apartments in this area where it is possible to get girls over without problems?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2510376]I have found no difference between brancas and negras in Brazil. The body type is the same, similar shape and all firm. The only difference is the color of the skin.[/QUOTE]I have found there to be differences between brancas and negras in Brazil. In general, Brasileiras are definitely curvier than their North American and European counterparts. Chalk it up to DNA and diet perhaps. If you want a curvy branca who does anal, you can easily find them in Brazil. That's the advantage of traveling to Brazil. However in my opinion, on average there are physical differences.

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2510409]Hi folks,

Considering renting Airbnb or other apartments for my upcoming trip. Thinking of renting in Barra the Tijuca because since a lot of escort sites seem to show that a lot of talent is located in this area. I've never rented Airbnb in Brazil. What are the typical guest policies? Is it possible to bring girls over to Airbnbs? Any recommendations on good upscale apartments in this area where it is possible to get girls over without problems?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Airbnbn or Booking or Hotels or private rented apartment issue can only be doorman or receptionist.

Try to take apartment which is in building without reception and problem solved.

Even if it is written no visitors on apartment policy don't see a way it can be controled.

I also booked apartments for upcoming Brasil trip and don't expect any issues there.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2510413]If you want a curvy branca who does anal, you can easily find them in Brazil. That's the advantage of traveling to Brazil.[/QUOTE]And I want that. I want it bad! Yes siree Bob I do!

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2510409]Hi folks,

Considering renting Airbnb or other apartments for my upcoming trip. Thinking of renting in Barra the Tijuca because since a lot of escort sites seem to show that a lot of talent is located in this area. I've never rented Airbnb in Brazil. What are the typical guest policies? Is it possible to bring girls over to Airbnbs? Any recommendations on good upscale apartments in this area where it is possible to get girls over without problems?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If I had to guess, Barra is a residential neighborhood and airbnb hosts in Barra would be even less receptive to outside guests than their counterparts in Copa or Ipanema. And there is no such thing as "typical. " If you don't see any mention of the guests policy in the description, you'll have to either chance it or ask explicitly. I've used both methods in the past with mixed results. Get friendly with the doorman to increase your chances.

Also check the Hotel / Apartments thread. There was a link recently to the website that's friendly to the hobby. Not sure if they have Barra, though.

Barravips dot com.

Is the site for Transamerica girls.

I'm working on fitting the negra with a short blond Afro from Paris in.

As I type Nina deponca is blowing me.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2510487]If I had to guess, Barra is a residential neighborhood and airbnb hosts in Barra would be even less receptive to outside guests than their counterparts in Copa or Ipanema. And there is no such thing as "typical. " If you don't see any mention of the guests policy in the description, you'll have to either chance it or ask explicitly. I've used both methods in the past with mixed results. Get friendly with the doorman to increase your chances.

Also check the Hotel / Apartments thread. There was a link recently to the website that's friendly to the hobby. Not sure if they have Barra, though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2510513]Barravips dot com.

Is the site for Transamerica girls.

I'm working on fitting the negra with a short blond Afro from Paris in.

As I type Nina deponca is blowing me.[/QUOTE]So you're multitasking! I salute your sense of duty, rsrs.

I've already penciled in a short stay at Transamerica during my next trip. The problem is that next trip will happen. Not soon.

I have become interested in the Termas clubs in RIO after reading this thread. My best mongering experiences so far have been through FKK clubs in Switzerland / Germany.

Termas clubs seem a very similar setup. However, I am wondering how the quality of the girls at the best termas clubs compare to the best fkks. Is there anyone who can make this comparison?

[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2510645]However, I am wondering how the quality of the girls at the best termas clubs compare to the best fkks. Is there anyone who can make this comparison?[/QUOTE]There's more eye candy at the FKK's, they're also more luxurious, with better facilities and Big! Said eye candy is walking around nekkid in the FKK's. They're in bikinis in the termas. I disliked the FKK rate of 50 euro per 30 min. Not to mention an additional 50 euro for every sex act. I got annoyed when every FKK babe asked what I wanted. The termas girls know what you want! No need to ask. Where the termas win, at least for me, is in the naughtiness of the Cariocas. I felt the FKK babes were in it for the money, held back, and were a bit clinical. My termas experiences: the girls want to get off with you and enjoy what they're doing. In the FKK's you'll find mostly slender ladies, they're curvier in Brazil, with ASS! I have found eye candy, at least to me, in the termas. Remember, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. BTW, termas are unique to Rio.

[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2510645]I have become interested in the Termas clubs in RIO after reading this thread. My best mongering experiences so far have been through FKK clubs in Switzerland / Germany.

Termas clubs seem a very similar setup. However, I am wondering how the quality of the girls at the best termas clubs compare to the best fkks. Is there anyone who can make this comparison?[/QUOTE]There is a difference between Brazilian brancas and FKK brancas. Brazilians generally have curvier and firmer bodies. FKK girls generally are more slender and have smoother skin and softer bodies. According to a monger's taste he may prefer one over the other.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2510714]There is a difference between Brazilian brancas and FKK brancas. Brazilians generally have curvier and firmer bodies. FKK girls generally are more slender and have smoother skin and softer bodies. According to a monger's taste he may prefer one over the other.[/QUOTE]If one is looking for FKK-type brancas, the best bet is the boate (club) Scandallo in Sao Paulo. There one will find a large selection of girls including the more slender types from Southern Brazil.

That's not to say you won't find a FKK type in a Rio termas here or there. It's just less likely. Centaurus use to be known for slender girls who appealed to some of the tourist crowd. Given Centaurus' declining reputation over the past few years, I wouldn't count on the place. There hasn't been much reported on the place in the last year.

I am dedicated.

My ISG wingmen and I are planning on making lesbian interracial strap on porn epics.

We need white girls and black girls.

Think story of o with a black fem dom theme.

Oh and my take away is it is far to dangerous to travel so I am safer social isolating on a beach in Brazil drinking coconut water, tea and protein powder.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2510622]So you're multitasking! I salute your sense of duty, rsrs.

I've already penciled in a short stay at Transamerica during my next trip. The problem is that next trip will happen. Not soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2510751]If one is looking for FKK-type brancas, the best bet is the boate (club) Scandallo in Sao Paulo. There one will find a large selection of girls including the more slender types from Southern Brazil. That's not to say you won't find a FKK type in a Rio termas here or there. It's just less likely. Centaurus use to be known for slender girls who appealed to some of the tourist crowd. Given Centaurus' declining reputation over the past few years, I wouldn't count on the place. There hasn't been much reported on the place in the last year.[/QUOTE]I've also had good luck in Sao Paulo at Bomboa and Cafe Photo. And I've always objected to mongers telling guys that you have to go to Sampa for thin brancas (not saying you did that). No you don't! Fucked more in Rio than I can count, found at termas all over the city, and I have the photos to prove it too (as I have done many times before). Now, my "kryptonite" is a blonde branca with a pretty face, blue eyes, a narrow waist, and a plump, round, bubble butt. That said, I have fucked many others with the "FKK body type", found in Rio, Sao Paulo, and Porto Alegre the one time I went. Same for morenas. Times do change though. Termas and clubs have closed all over the place, even well before COVID, and that certainly had impacted both the quality and quantity of the game in Brazil.

Best is reception and bar and pool in Transamerica.

See.

[URL]Barravips.com[/URL]

PhotoAcompanhantes.

Screen for white chicks.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2510777]I've also had good luck in Sao Paulo at Bomboa and Cafe Photo. And I've always objected to mongers telling guys that you have to go to Sampa for thin brancas (not saying you did that). No you don't! Fucked more in Rio than I can count, found at termas all over the city, and I have the photos to prove it too (as I have done many times before). Now, my "kryptonite" is a blonde branca with a pretty face, blue eyes, a narrow waist, and a plump, round, bubble butt. That said, I have fucked many others with the "FKK body type", found in Rio, Sao Paulo, and Porto Alegre the one time I went. Same for morenas. Times do change though. Termas and clubs have closed all over the place, even well before COVID, and that certainly had impacted both the quality and quantity of the game in Brazil.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://forumx.com.br/viewtopic.php?t=5523[/URL]

Robertinha Guilmares is a veteran GDP who is a thin branca.

As I've joked with friends from ISG and other local mongers here, once you've had her standing bareback anal (get tested regularly, gents) on the balcony, you've finally arrived in Rio.

That said, the fresher brancas are on [URL]barravips.com[/URL], including one I "caught and released" as the bubba boy guide says.

I used to be in the game of writing up reviews for the girls and posting their pictures, including not just this site, but the local sites.

That is truly where the "social dilemma" documentary on Netflix must be watched and appreciated.

That said, all the cool kids are now using signal instead of zap.

Since there has been some attempts to contact me by people who apparently cannot figure out how to PM on this site.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2510777]I've also had good luck in Sao Paulo at Bomboa and Cafe Photo. And I've always objected to mongers telling guys that you have to go to Sampa for thin brancas (not saying you did that). No you don't! Fucked more in Rio than I can count, found at termas all over the city, and I have the photos to prove it too (as I have done many times before). Now, my "kryptonite" is a blonde branca with a pretty face, blue eyes, a narrow waist, and a plump, round, bubble butt. That said, I have fucked many others with the "FKK body type", found in Rio, Sao Paulo, and Porto Alegre the one time I went. Same for morenas. Times do change though. Termas and clubs have closed all over the place, even well before COVID, and that certainly had impacted both the quality and quantity of the game in Brazil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2510777]I've also had good luck in Sao Paulo at Bomboa and Cafe Photo. And I've always objected to mongers telling guys that you have to go to Sampa for thin brancas (not saying you did that). No you don't! Fucked more in Rio than I can count, found at termas all over the city, and I have the photos to prove it too (as I have done many times before).[/QUOTE]Here is an example of a Centaurus branca that I once hooked up with when Centaurus was on top of their game. She was slender, but she still had a great ass-to-hip ratio. She had an Italian look to me.

Obviously, this photo was not taken at Centaurus. I ran into her after termas hours in a cafe. She had a cool vibe. When she was washing up at the bathroom sink her body lines were great. I wish I took a photo of her standing there.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2510846]Here is an example of a Centaurus branca that I once hooked up with when Centaurus was on top of their game. She was slender, but she still had a great ass-to-hip ratio. She had an Italian look to me.

Obviously, this photo was not taken at Centaurus. I ran into her after termas hours in a cafe. She had a cool vibe. When she was washing up at the bathroom sink her body lines were great. I wish I took a photo of her standing there.[/QUOTE]I've fucked plenty even more slender than that. She still has too much ass for some guys, but not for me LOL.

[QUOTE=TuneFor;2510441]Even if it is written no visitors on apartment policy don't see a way it can be controled.[/QUOTE]The neighbors. They'll complain to the apartment / condo association. It's happened. They don't want putas in their building. LOL.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2511267]The neighbors. They'll complain to the apartment / condo association. It's happened. They don't want putas in their building. LOL.[/QUOTE]True.

I just rcvd home policy for rented apartment and is written no visitors, no parties, loud music.

But if you are staying just few days don't see a problem to bend the rules little bit.

Someone might complain but you are out in day or two anyway.

Off to next one.

I never had problems with visitors through airbnb and with music I was always relatively cautious.

I think visitors are not problem while you are not waking up people around you.

I normally take two or three mongering trips per year, but in 2020 my only trip was to Rio in late November. It was my third trip to Brazil, but I haven't invested enough effort to feel that I'm more than a novice. Outside of the massagems and termas, places that have set prices, I have a hard time knowing what price I should pay for any particular girl. During this trip, I used PA, RioSexSite, and Mabs. Prices that I encountered were 150-250 on PA for an Uber hour, 400-500 per hour on RioSexSite, and 400 per hour to 1000-1250 per noite at Mabs. All prices are in reais.

There seemed too much overlap between quality of looks in the girl and prices. There wasn't an obvious tiered system such that more attractive girls cost more. And Mabs seemed overpriced compared to equivalent girls on RioSexSite.

What are typical prices that other mongers in Rio are paying freelancers per hour and per noite?

[QUOTE=KConstant;2511359]I normally take two or three mongering trips per year, but in 2020 my only trip was to Rio in late November. It was my third trip to Brazil, but I haven't invested enough effort to feel that I'm more than a novice. Outside of the massagems and termas, places that have set prices, I have a hard time knowing what price I should pay for any particular girl. During this trip, I used PA, RioSexSite, and Mabs. Prices that I encountered were 150-250 on PA for an Uber hour, 400-500 per hour on RioSexSite, and 400 per hour to 1000-1250 per noite at Mabs. All prices are in reais.

There seemed too much overlap between quality of looks in the girl and prices. There wasn't an obvious tiered system such that more attractive girls cost more. And Mabs seemed overpriced compared to equivalent girls on RioSexSite.

What are typical prices that other mongers in Rio are paying freelancers per hour and per noite?[/QUOTE]What's MABs?

For the Guys who stay long periods, how do you deal with the visas? I guess it's 90 plus 90 days right.

[QUOTE=KConstant;2511359]I normally take two or three mongering trips per year, but in 2020 my only trip was to Rio in late November. It was my third trip to Brazil, but I haven't invested enough effort to feel that I'm more than a novice. Outside of the massagems and termas, places that have set prices, I have a hard time knowing what price I should pay for any particular girl. During this trip, I used PA, RioSexSite, and Mabs. Prices that I encountered were 150-250 on PA for an Uber hour, 400-500 per hour on RioSexSite, and 400 per hour to 1000-1250 per noite at Mabs. All prices are in reais.

There seemed too much overlap between quality of looks in the girl and prices. There wasn't an obvious tiered system such that more attractive girls cost more. And Mabs seemed overpriced compared to equivalent girls on RioSexSite.

What are typical prices that other mongers in Rio are paying freelancers per hour and per noite?[/QUOTE]Between 200-400 Reals or there abouts in Rio's tourist areas. Some street vendors I got to know told me they could take me to where they lived and at the bars there I would find as cheap as 100 Reals to 150 Reals. They mentioned I would find women for that much even though those venues were normal bars and night clubs. Haven't seen anything cheaper. I never took them up on visiting their neighborhood but at the time I didn't think anything shady about their offer. They just thought I was over paying in Copacabana.

I really believe you don't need to go over 300/400 per hour (or several) for high quality talent. Per noite at Mabs I've only tried once and scored for 400 for all night. I would be fine 500-600 for a girl that was drop dead. 1000 is pushing it for me. I believe you can find talent and make some long term arrangement with plenty of girls. PA at 150 is usually a bust. I'm not a big fan of being overcharged and believe quality doesn't improve, or it's some personal disdain on my part. 300 is my base offer, although I had this cumslut wanting to bang me for 200 HR. She was a cutey and sucked dick like a champ.

Hmmm, really. There are many woman in Rio / Brazil who are in need of $$ Paying 2 k /3 k /4 k mo secured for semi-pros seems right to me.

Just my opinion / preference.

I do think looks / how 'sharp' you look plays somewhat of a role, for a woman to feel safe and comfortable, just make it easier being somewhat well put together.

[QUOTE=KConstant;2511359]I normally take two or three mongering trips per year, but in 2020 my only trip was to Rio in late November. It was my third trip to Brazil, but I haven't invested enough effort to feel that I'm more than a novice. Outside of the massagems and termas, places that have set prices, I have a hard time knowing what price I should pay for any particular girl. During this trip, I used PA, RioSexSite, and Mabs. Prices that I encountered were 150-250 on PA for an Uber hour, 400-500 per hour on RioSexSite, and 400 per hour to 1000-1250 per noite at Mabs. All prices are in reais.

There seemed too much overlap between quality of looks in the girl and prices. There wasn't an obvious tiered system such that more attractive girls cost more. And Mabs seemed overpriced compared to equivalent girls on RioSexSite.

What are typical prices that other mongers in Rio are paying freelancers per hour and per noite?[/QUOTE]

200-400 pernoite is what I pay.

If you're paying more you are over paying and more $ does not equate to better quality.

Lighter skinned girls will charge more.

I hold the line though.

[QUOTE=KConstant;2511359]I normally take two or three mongering trips per year, but in 2020 my only trip was to Rio in late November. It was my third trip to Brazil, but I haven't invested enough effort to feel that I'm more than a novice. Outside of the massagems and termas, places that have set prices, I have a hard time knowing what price I should pay for any particular girl. During this trip, I used PA, RioSexSite, and Mabs. Prices that I encountered were 150-250 on PA for an Uber hour, 400-500 per hour on RioSexSite, and 400 per hour to 1000-1250 per noite at Mabs. All prices are in reais.

There seemed too much overlap between quality of looks in the girl and prices. There wasn't an obvious tiered system such that more attractive girls cost more. And Mabs seemed overpriced compared to equivalent girls on RioSexSite.

What are typical prices that other mongers in Rio are paying freelancers per hour and per noite?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KConstant;2511359]I have a hard time knowing what price I should pay for any particular girl. During this trip, I used PA, RioSexSite, and Mabs. Prices that I encountered were 150-250 on PA for an Uber hour, 400-500 per hour on RioSexSite, and 400 per hour to 1000-1250 per noite at Mabs. All prices are in reais.

There seemed too much overlap between quality of looks in the girl and prices. There wasn't an obvious tiered system such that more attractive girls cost more. And Mabs seemed overpriced compared to equivalent girls on RioSexSite.

What are typical prices that other mongers in Rio are paying freelancers per hour and per noite?[/QUOTE]Thanks for saying reais. Of course there is no system. A chick ends up where she thinks she can make the best and a guy ends up where he thinks he can get the best (price, looks, etc.).

Then you have chicks that you can find in more than one place. You could see her on one site asking for 400 and on another site or brick & mortar place going for 200. Not really any rhyme or reason.

First thing I do though is start off by asking her how much. It could be 10 reais, but I am still going to tell her that sounds ridiculous and try to get her to come down. I can tell you that my Mabs limit is 200 for all night though. I am not giving those raggedy broads more than that. Of course I speak Portuguese and can talk cash shit to them though. YMMV.

(They are saying 1250 now? That is 17 rides in a rip off taxi back and forth to Galeao. 35 rides in an Uber. Who the fuck keeps driving the prices up? Some mf that is thinking in his home currency and not in reais, that is who. If this was back when the exchage for USD was 1.52 that would be 822 fucking dollars.)

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2510846]She was slender, but she still had a great ass-to-hip ratio. She had an Italian look to me.
.[/QUOTE]The correct measurement is waist-to-hip. Ass-to-hip is useless since it is always very close to 1.

[QUOTE=KConstant;2511359]I normally take two or three mongering trips per year, but in 2020 my only trip was to Rio in late November. It was my third trip to Brazil, but I haven't invested enough effort to feel that I'm more than a novice. Outside of the massagems and termas, places that have set prices, I have a hard time knowing what price I should pay for any particular girl. During this trip, I used PA, RioSexSite, and Mabs. Prices that I encountered were 150-250 on PA for an Uber hour, 400-500 per hour on RioSexSite, and 400 per hour to 1000-1250 per noite at Mabs. All prices are in reais.

[/QUOTE]Did you say you were paying 1000-1250 reais for all night from fucking Mabs? DUDE! You didn't speak to anyone before you made your trip? MAX is 100 bucks (520 R) for all night and that is with a top tier terma girl. If a girl at Mabs quotes you 1000 reais for tln, I would just smile and say "Good luck and have a good night" then walk away. I normally give 300-4500 R for all night.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2511404]Did you say you were paying 1000-1250 reais for all night from fucking Mabs? DUDE! You didn't speak to anyone before you made your trip? MAX is 100 bucks (520 R) for all night and that is with a top tier terma girl. If a girl at Mabs quotes you 1000 reais for tln, I would just smile and say "Good luck and have a good night" then walk away. I normally give 300-4500 R for all night.[/QUOTE]Are you sure? It's about 320 reals, if I remember correctly, at Monte Carlo for a terma girl for an hour. Solarium, which I didn't visit, is more expensive. 520 sounds like an hour and a half at the terma itself. I understand there is an opportunity cost and most garotas would probably take 520 to fuck, sleep, and fuck again.

[QUOTE=KConstant;2511359]

What are typical prices that other mongers in Rio are paying freelancers per hour and per noite?[/QUOTE]Between 100 R and 200 R. Never more than that. Don't be a sucka and just negotiate. Remember, we have what they need and there is plenty of pussy out there that will accept the correct donation.

I'm glad this is coming up now as the few girls I been talking to pre-arrival have been asking for 400/500 per hour and 2000/2500 for the pernoite. I'm obviously not going to pay that but sounds like I t's probably best to get on ground and take it from there. I thought I read previously that the Transamerica girls will 'settle' for 300 for the hour if you negotiate though? Really don't want to be one of the ones who break the market.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2511386]Of course there is no system. A chick ends up where she thinks she can make the best and a guy ends up where he thinks he can get the best (price, looks, etc.).[/QUOTE]That's a great point. This is also how civilian meet-up venues work.

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2510409]Hi folks,

Considering renting Airbnb or other apartments for my upcoming trip. Thinking of renting in Barra the Tijuca because since a lot of escort sites seem to show that a lot of talent is located in this area. I've never rented Airbnb in Brazil. What are the typical guest policies? Is it possible to bring girls over to Airbnbs? Any recommendations on good upscale apartments in this area where it is possible to get girls over without problems?[/QUOTE]Why not just consider the Transamerica? While it has been mentioned for longer-term rentals, it looks like you can book by the night?

Like almost any place in the world, if you stay more than a week try to call them and negotiate a rate.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2511368]Some street vendors I got to know told me they could take me to where they lived and at the bars there I would find as cheap as 100 Reals to 150 Reals. They mentioned I would find women for that much even though those venues were normal bars and night clubs. Haven't seen anything cheaper. I never took them up on visiting their neighborhood but at the time I didn't think anything shady about their offer. They just thought I was over paying in Copacabana.[/QUOTE]I would have taken them up on their offer. I've been out with Brazilians and sometimes we will randomly run into semi-pros. I speak some crude Portuguese and that helps. It goes without saying that if a hot semi-pro speaks some English she knows how much she can make in the tourist zones.

Don't.

Pay.

Those.

Prices.

You will screw it up for everyone else.

That is what I hate about hanging out with other gringos.

350 pernoite.

Sim or nao.

Offer that until you get sim.

Do not be over eager.

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2511515]I'm glad this is coming up now as the few girls I been talking to pre-arrival have been asking for 400/500 per hour and 2000/2500 for the pernoite. I'm obviously not going to pay that but sounds like I t's probably best to get on ground and take it from there. I thought I read previously that the Transamerica girls will 'settle' for 300 for the hour if you negotiate though? Really don't want to be one of the ones who break the market.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TuneFor;2510441]Airbnbn or Booking or Hotels or private rented apartment issue can only be doorman or receptionist.

Try to take apartment which is in building without reception and problem solved.

Even if it is written no visitors on apartment policy don't see a way it can be controled.

I also booked apartments for upcoming Brasil trip and don't expect any issues there.[/QUOTE]I almost always stay at vacation rentals in Rio, Airbnb or not, and don't remember the last time there wouldn't be a doorman. Maybe back at the beginning of the 00's.

I also found that being reasonably straightforward works better for me. And sure thing, sometimes there is a firm no, but more often I get a consent. Especially when I assure them that I'm quiet, discreet and respectful (all true). I don't know, but I like to stay in a nice place, and it's a buyer's market in Rio right now.

Monday, I picked up Halle Berry at the Secret -- now not so secret -- Terma.

I had juggled a few other bar maids.

The price quoted is 400 reais.

I have already cum up her ass twice.

I took her out to Olegario, for drinks.

This is major fun.

The bar, R21 is hopping.

I type this on my balcony on the 3 d floor of Transamerica.

Look, if you pay over $400 a night pernoite, the sound the girl makes may sound like an orgasm, but it is really laughter at how f'ing stupid you are.

If you pay over $400 a night you may as well join NAMBLA and give up your manhood.

Your bro card will be revoked.

But go ahead.

Oh yeah, I know there will be those who argue, I have to pay that at some Hi end terma for a branca.

No.

You.

Don't.

Go to the secret terma (rua the conceceiao 116) and ask for angel.

She is a blond, a branca. And she is like 22.

And she is hot.

You want the number of a blond from Centaurus?

Message me.

I will send you one.

But don't over pay.

Or if you do, just consider it a donation to NAMBLA, and consider yourself dammed to Mab's ladyboy hell. Because that's where you belong. Your man card will be revoked if you overpay. You will get worse sex, and you will skew the market.

The Brazilians have made a whole economy of stupid gringos who overpay.

Go ahead.

You have been warned.

And yes, Halle Berry is hot as Halle Berry, but she is 22.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2511762]Don't.

Pay.

Those.

Prices.

You will screw it up for everyone else.

That is what I hate about hanging out with other gringos.

350 pernoite.

Sim or nao.

Offer that until you get sim.

Do not be over eager.[/QUOTE]

I asked about GP prices and the responses were great. They all agreed on one point: I paid more than I should have with the girls that I took from Mab's. In late February after Carnival, I'll have a chance to try again. I'm going back to Zona Sul. I should be able to hold onto my reais more tightly with this new info. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2511778]I almost always stay at vacation rentals in Rio, Airbnb or not, and don't remember the last time there wouldn't be a doorman. Maybe back at the beginning of the 00's.
.[/QUOTE]Looking at heading back in the new year but struggling to find a 2 bedroom apartment on both Airbnb and booking, do you guys use any other sites or any tips?

Regarding overpaying, as below, my view is it is up to the individual and don't think it drives up prices per se. Best that people post what they really pay. I'm just amazed there was someone in mabs worth paying it or taking all night, I've always found girls in mabs to be average looking. But obviously some diamonds out there.

Check out redhead Sophie! Fucked her the last time I was in Rio. Really like her body (even after she gained some weight it looks like), and she was a good fuck. I give her face a 7. Very intelligent, friendly, caring, and kind. Good head on her shoulders. And good head on your dick too!

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-sophia-gaucha[/URL]

Arrived yesterday in Rio.

Was in a mess from a flight but still wanted some action.

Decided to go for dinner on Copa close to my apartment and after few drinks hit the road somewhere.

Decided will go to Dolce Vita, so went back to apartment until opens (kkkk).

It was disappointing to see it closed.

All Copa was quite dead actually, I was expecting more buzz.

There were some people at place close to Dolce Vita but seemed dodgy and empty.

So called it a night and of to sleep.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2511930]Monday, I picked up Halle Berry at the Secret -- now not so secret -- Terma.

I had juggled a few other bar maids.

The price quoted is 400 reais.

I have already cum up her ass twice.

I took her out to Olegario, for drinks.

This is major fun.

The bar, R21 is hopping.

I type this on my balcony on the 3 d floor of Transamerica.

Look, if you pay over $400 a night pernoite, the sound the girl makes may sound like an orgasm, but it is really laughter at how f'ing stupid you are.

If you pay over $400 a night you may as well join NAMBLA and give up your manhood..[/QUOTE]Got to admit, what you say have some truths in it. As proven when you showed me in Whatsapp the girl you were going to be with back in August. She is good looking. But some of these girls like the one I met last year will eventually realize she can charge more, and you won't see her accept the same rate again after awhile.

I'm heading back to Rio in 8 days, after my first trip over Halloween in October. It was dope, obviously, I hit a lot of places on the Google maps link, I'm curious if the "secret termas" is on there?

There is 2 places next to the address provided earlier, is it one of them?

Really enjoyed the prives in Centro, near carioca.

Villa today after lunch was surprisingly lively, it just felt like such a good vibe in today's sun and blue skies. Tight young girls, caramel skin, some topless with cute little black nipples; these people are gorgeous.

Thinking to hit up that club 117 place at some point.

I leave Rio Thursday so it's a shame I didn't get to meet some of the other posters, I told myself that it I was sure to be staying over the holidays I'd get in touch so as to make some friends, but I've been called back to the frigid northern hemisphere climes again.

Rio is a beautiful city, once I'm back home I'll type up a few reports.

I'm returning to Rio in 8 days, after my first trip over Halloween week in October, it was fucking awesome.

I went to a bunch of places on the Google maps link, but I'm curious if this "secret termas" is on there?

The address posted is next door to 2 other places, is it one of those?

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2511983]Looking at heading back in the new year but struggling to find a 2 bedroom apartment on both Airbnb and booking, do you guys use any other sites or any tips?

Regarding overpaying, as below, my view is it is up to the individual and don't think it drives up prices per se. Best that people post what they really pay. I'm just amazed there was someone in mabs worth paying it or taking all night, I've always found girls in mabs to be average looking. But obviously some diamonds out there.[/QUOTE]Check the Hotels and Apartments thread, there was a link of the local rental company.

As to overpaying, believe what you want, but it does drive prices up. And it doesn't make them like us better either. Lose-lose.

New Year's Eve festivities in Rio cancelled. Smart move by Crivella.

[URL]https://www.jb.com.br/rio/2020/12/1027108-reveillon-no-rio-de-janeiro-e-cancelado-por-pandemia-de-covid.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2511930]Look, if you pay over $400 a night pernoite, the sound the girl makes may sound like an orgasm, but it is really laughter at how f'ing stupid you are.[/QUOTE]True and very funny.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2512196]New Year's Eve festivities in Rio cancelled. Smart move by Crivella.[URL]https://www.jb.com.br/rio/2020/12/1027108-reveillon-no-rio-de-janeiro-e-cancelado-por-pandemia-de-covid.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Carnaval sorta cancelled too. They're saying postponed indefinitely. [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-54289845[/URL].

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2512211]Carnaval sorta cancelled too. They're saying postponed indefinitely. [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-54289845[/URL].[/QUOTE]That's right. I heard it's postponed to July.

[QUOTE=KConstant;2511980]I asked about GP prices and the responses were great. They all agreed on one point: I paid more than I should have with the girls that I took from Mab's. In late February after Carnival, I'll have a chance to try again. I'm going back to Zona Sul. I should be able to hold onto my reais more tightly with this new info. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Indeed. From reading some other posts I was thinking $800 pernoite was the rate for BarraVIP girls but you putting it out there has helped clear a lot, so nice one.

The senior members have spoken, are $400 pernoite. Let's learn the lesson from Marrakech. 5-7 years ago US $50 would get you an all nighter, then the British weekend millionaires and guys from the Middle East started acting stupid. It got to the point where girls in the club were asking for US $300 and confidently holding out for it. Street girls wanted US $100 for a short time. It just got out of control if you didn't have regulars.

Let's not ruin a good thing.

My flight is booked to arrive Feb 18th. 9 agonizing weeks!

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH&ll=-22.901726390233186%2C-43.18344839236522&z=20[/URL]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2510279]He gave the address in post #22032 on 11/28. It's 114 Rua de Conceicao, next to the brothel at 116 Rua de Conceicao.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2511762]Don't.

Pay.

Those.

Prices.

You will screw it up for everyone else.

That is what I hate about hanging out with other gringos.

350 pernoite.

Sim or nao.

Offer that until you get sim.

Do not be over eager.[/QUOTE]Exactly! Dudes get on the ground and be behaving all desperate like they never get pussy at home, and be overpaying these girls and totally trying to mess up the market.

[QUOTE=World Travel 69;2512295][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH&ll=-22.901726390233186%2C-43.18344839236522&z=20[/URL][/QUOTE]
Propably you have not checked it out yourself? Google mongering must be fun, copy and paste a lot of addresses on your map is easy. Some of your puterios are gone since 15 years. Personally I never seen Club 114, only Club 116. Senhor Vagabundo or Dante might give more information.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2512295][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH&ll=-22.901726390233186%2C-43.18344839236522&z=20[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you World Travel 69. I have relied on your maps and posts ever since I discovered ISG in 2012. You have, through the years, been of immense assistance to me. I reckon you to be perhaps the best resource ever on ISG.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2512413]Thank you World Travel 69. I have relied on your maps and posts ever since I discovered ISG in 2012. You have, through the years, been of immense assistance to me. I reckon you to be perhaps the best resource ever on ISG.[/QUOTE]I don't know if I would say best ever, but WorldTravel69's information has also been helpful to me over the years. Meanwhile, there are others who have never offered much of use at all, and seem only to find fault.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2512413]Thank you World Travel 69. I have relied on your maps and posts ever since I discovered ISG in 2012. You have, through the years, been of immense assistance to me. I reckon you to be perhaps the best resource ever on ISG.[/QUOTE]I completely agree; well put.

114 and 116 are both trash termas.

116 is better.

IMHO, the quality at 116 is probably going back down to pre covid levels.

A recon of the "darkside' termas is the place to be, not just for negras, but also morenas and loiras.

On the other hand, the upside of the tier 1 termas is the girls generally get DST tests.

116 is kind of like the island of misfit toys or the bar in various sci fi flicks, like Star Wars.

Monte Castelo 26 does have good beds for a trash terma.

Monique is on her way over for a pernoite.

If you don't get a full on bombeiro (military fireman) shirt, I do suggest a red "wife beater" shirt, which will make you look like a lifeguard, which will reduce your chances of getting attacked. Wear it proudly in layers with your vasco shirt. Haha.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2512352]Propably you have not checked it out yourself? Google mongering must be fun, copy and paste a lot of addresses on your map is easy. Some of your puterios are gone since 15 years. Personally I never seen Club 114, only Club 116. Senhor Vagabundo or Dante might give more information.[/QUOTE]

WT69.

My best travel companion hands down were my WT69 maps and lists for several LA countries.

Unfortunately he doesn't get around as much as he used to. Welcome to life and various challenges but even then his contributions are 10 fold compared to most people.

If things don't look right definitely update the info but show respect at the same time.

This is a giving industry. Its iike passing the baton to the next runner during a relay race. Everyone is in charge of keeping the momentum going.

300 reais.

Jameson's Irish whisky 125 reais.

GoPro 7.

Ice in barra.

Picanha.

Brie.

Ice.

Brahma lates (cans).

Soon, jada fire and I will film her fucking a white girl with a strap on.

Feliz natal.

Thank you everyone! Also I should have asked, if I stay in Copacabana, will the girls from Barra the Tijuca come over to hotels in that area?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2510487]If I had to guess, Barra is a residential neighborhood and airbnb hosts in Barra would be even less receptive to outside guests than their counterparts in Copa or Ipanema. And there is no such thing as "typical. " If you don't see any mention of the guests policy in the description, you'll have to either chance it or ask explicitly. I've used both methods in the past with mixed results. Get friendly with the doorman to increase your chances.

Also check the Hotel / Apartments thread. There was a link recently to the website that's friendly to the hobby. Not sure if they have Barra, though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2512004]Check out redhead Sophie! Fucked her the last time I was in Rio. Really like her body (even after she gained some weight it looks like), and she was a good fuck. I give her face a 7. Very intelligent, friendly, caring, and kind. Good head on her shoulders. And good head on your dick too!

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-sophia-gaucha[/URL][/QUOTE]I clicked on the link but she is not there. She was there yesterday but today she is gone. What are the rates for Barravips? I couldn't find them on the site.

[QUOTE=TheWatcher;2512563]I clicked on the link but she is not there. She was there yesterday but today she is gone. What are the rates for Barravips? I couldn't find them on the site.[/QUOTE]Around 400 or so, IIRC.

[QUOTE=TheWatcher;2512563]I clicked on the link but she is not there. She was there yesterday but today she is gone. What are the rates for Barravips? I couldn't find them on the site.[/QUOTE]These girls come and go, especially the one you're looking at for a future date. It happened to me with a girl on RioSexSite. By the time I got around to contacting her, her listing was gone. Now, I'll save their contact just in case.

"Sophia Gaucha".

+55 21 98xxxx511.

Yes, 350 r pernoite.

Max 400.

If you don't get a sim on your zap *whatsapp chats, increase your "market" by clicking more.

I can feel the pressure of rich world dicks wanting back into Rio.

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2512280]Indeed. From reading some other posts I was thinking $800 pernoite was the rate for BarraVIP girls but you putting it out there has helped clear a lot, so nice one.

The senior members have spoken, are $400 pernoite. Let's learn the lesson from Marrakech. 5-7 years ago US $50 would get you an all nighter, then the British weekend millionaires and guys from the Middle East started acting stupid. It got to the point where girls in the club were asking for US $300 and confidently holding out for it. Street girls wanted US $100 for a short time. It just got out of control if you didn't have regulars.

Let's not ruin a good thing.

My flight is booked to arrive Feb 18th. 9 agonizing weeks![/QUOTE]

Yes, 350 r pernoite.

Max 400.

If you don't get a sim on your zap *whatsapp chats, increase your "market" by clicking more.

I can feel the pressure of rich world dicks wanting back into Rio.

The porn we are going to make is "lesbian strap on interracial".

That is what leads to jada fire / Monique, my callsign for Monique.

Haha.

Which is KKK in local parlance.

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2512280]Indeed. From reading some other posts I was thinking $800 pernoite was the rate for BarraVIP girls but you putting it out there has helped clear a lot, so nice one.

The senior members have spoken, are $400 pernoite. Let's learn the lesson from Marrakech. 5-7 years ago US $50 would get you an all nighter, then the British weekend millionaires and guys from the Middle East started acting stupid. It got to the point where girls in the club were asking for US $300 and confidently holding out for it. Street girls wanted US $100 for a short time. It just got out of control if you didn't have regulars.

Let's not ruin a good thing.

My flight is booked to arrive Feb 18th. 9 agonizing weeks![/QUOTE]

Gents,

Do not go by looks alone.

Go by reviews from locals.

Gparena.

Gpguia best since it is SP based.

Forumx.

If you lust after a blond on barravips without getting a local review, you are going to get fucked.

Trust me.

I am banging 20% of barravips for 300 pernoite.

Those bitches message me when they are back from out of town.

Do.

Not.

Overpay.

Even those girls.

400 pernoite max.

Vagabundo.

[QUOTE=KConstant;2512570]These girls come and go, especially the one you're looking at for a future date. It happened to me with a girl on RioSexSite. By the time I got around to contacting her, her listing was gone. Now, I'll save their contact just in case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheWatcher;2512563]I clicked on the link but she is not there. She was there yesterday but today she is gone. What are the rates for Barravips? I couldn't find them on the site.[/QUOTE]Sophie tends to run an ad for just a short period of time, then she will take it down. She already has a client base, but occasionally advertises looking to build that base. She doesn't need to leave her ads up long because she gets swamped! I was going to put her number here because it's in her ad, and she says it's OK, but I see somebody already did that.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2512589]Gents,

Do not go by looks alone.

Go by reviews from locals.

Gparena.

Gpguia best since it is SP based.

Forumx.

If you lust after a blond on barravips without getting a local review, you are going to get fucked.

Trust me.

I am banging 20% of barravips for 300 pernoite.

Those bitches message me when they are back from out of town..[/QUOTE]Vagabundo,

Can you post a link to the best local review sites? Or, is that not allowed on this board? Otherwise, maybe you can tell me by PM then. I don't want to waste time, and only want to know about the best. I know about Gpguia, which you say is good for Sampa, but what about one that covers Rio extremely well?

Guess I am one of the few here who appreciates fact over opinion and misinformation.

Private apartment locations change all the time. The best source of current information is the Brazilian forums and firsthand recent reports here.

This is why firsthand on-the-ground reports by as many guys as possible are important. We all know how Tab A, Slot be works. We don't need blow by blow Penthouse letter reports. What would be nice is the number of girls and overall quality. Posted prices are also helpful (even if they are Gringo prices).

Some guys here feel the need (maybe boredom or boring lives) to post me too opinion comments after every post. Little value added. Then again, maybe I am not a hang out at the bar shooting the shit for hours kind of guy.

It would be a full-time job to correct all the misinformation. Luckily, some members with real, years of months at a time experience in Brazil, try. Like suggesting a freelance girl take you to a Whiskeria instead of a freelance bar. I have taken non-pros into a termas and Whiskeria. I speak Portuguese, know the owners and managers and am a regular patron. Whiskeria's have their own girls who they selected and who must abide by house rules. They are not going to let girls from the outside in.

A friend just sent me text from 4 x 4. It opened today and he is in there right now. I hope to get a full report later.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2512598]Sophie tends to run an ad for just a short period of time, then she will take it down. She already has a client base, but occasionally advertises looking to build that base. She doesn't need to leave her ads up long because she gets swamped! I was going to put her number here because it's in her ad, and she says it's OK, but I see somebody already did that.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your prompt reply and recommendation.

[QUOTE=KConstant;2512570]These girls come and go, especially the one you're looking at for a future date. It happened to me with a girl on RioSexSite. By the time I got around to contacting her, her listing was gone. Now, I'll save their contact just in case.

"Sophia Gaucha".

+55 21 98xxxx511.[/QUOTE]The Administrator obscured her number. Please PM me her number. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2512497]Thank you everyone! Also I should have asked, if I stay in Copacabana, will the girls from Barra the Tijuca come over to hotels in that area?[/QUOTE]"Everything is negotiable" is a cliché, but it's never been more true than with escorts. They might try to get you to pay more, but you should just stick to Uber fare. The girls in Barra are used to going to Copa and Ipanema to meet up with men.

Okay who is this girl Pernoite and how do I get a hold of her she sounds good. ?

[QUOTE=TheWatcher;2512704]A friend just sent me text from 4 x 4. It opened today and he is in there right now. I hope to get a full report later.[/QUOTE]Bravo! Bravo!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2512589]Gents,

Do not go by looks alone.

Go by reviews from locals.

Gparena.

Gpguia best since it is SP based.

Forumx.

If you lust after a blond on barravips without getting a local review, you are going to get fucked.

Trust me.[/QUOTE]Very good advice. Many of these hot girls on websites come and go. If they truly looked like that and were great in bed, locals would be raving about them.

The Watcher: check your inbox.

It's often possible to run a Google search on a girl's zap number and/or name to find her other ads and/or reviews.

Here is a different ad:

Nom de Guerre: "Sophia Gaucha"

Link: [URL]https://www.videoacompanhantes.com/acompanhante-sophia-gaucha-gp/[/URL].

For anyone with more experience than me with garotas can you think of why she was fine with me cumming inside her pussy but when I was ass fucking her she asked me not to come inside? The logic seems to be backward, or am I missing something here?

[QUOTE=TheWatcher;2512704]A friend just sent me text from 4 x 4. It opened today and he is in there right now. I hope to get a full report later.[/QUOTE]Today of all of all days. . . . . It's my birthday too! Just got to Rio yesterday. 4 X4 is my favorite Terma of all time! Heading over there in few!

Cheers everyone!

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2512736]For anyone with more experience than me with garotas can you think of why she was fine with me cumming inside her pussy but when I was ass fucking her she asked me not to come inside? The logic seems to be backward, or am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]You are missing something. She takes birth control pills or has an implant. Easier to get HIV through the ass. Ain't no pills or implant for that.

I don't think there is anything wrong with posting the local review boards.

[URL]http://gparena.net/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/[/URL]

This site IS good for precisely because it is based in SP, therefore the local web masters cannot screw up objective reviews.

[URL]https://forumx.com.br/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.hotforum.com.br/[/URL]

Fucking, fighting, futbol are the Brazilian national sport, and their genre is the novela. The writing some of these locals do is epic, and the muses rate the writing sometimes.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2512648]Vagabundo,

Can you post a link to the best local review sites? Or, is that not allowed on this board? Otherwise, maybe you can tell me by PM then. I don't want to waste time, and only want to know about the best. I know about Gpguia, which you say is good for Sampa, but what about one that covers Rio extremely well?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2512736]For anyone with more experience than me with garotas can you think of why she was fine with me cumming inside her pussy but when I was ass fucking her she asked me not to come inside? The logic seems to be backward, or am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]Ever had an enema? Even girls who go ATM prefer you to end in the M.

Hey guys,

Which district in Rio would be the safest in general to live for 6 months? I want it to be close to the brothels. What are the general hours of these places? I will be working remote between 10 am to 8 pm Rio-time.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2512648]Vagabundo,

Can you post a link to the best local review sites? Or, is that not allowed on this board? Otherwise, maybe you can tell me by PM then. I don't want to waste time, and only want to know about the best. I know about Gpguia, which you say is good for Sampa, but what about one that covers Rio extremely well?[/QUOTE]Vagabundo might have a different answer, but to me it's [URL]Gparena.net[/URL]. It's massive.

Gpgia -- I've found a bit skimpy in Rio.

Don't know about ForumX, since it won't let me read without registering, and to register demands a phone number, so screw it.

[QUOTE=Joyceson;2512738]Today of all of all days. . . . . It's my birthday too! Just got to Rio yesterday. 4 X4 is my favorite Terma of all time! Heading over there in few!

Cheers everyone![/QUOTE]Good news indeed. Please report your experiences.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2512758]Hey guys,

Which district in Rio would be the safest in general to live for 6 months? I want it to be close to the brothels. What are the general hours of these places? I will be working remote between 10 am to 8 pm Rio-time.[/QUOTE]Interesting way to frame a common question. The issue is that the brothels tend to be where safety is an issue at night. Affluent Brazilians are tolerant of brothels as long as they aren't too prominent in their neighborhood.

Best place for termas and prives in my opinion is Centro. (You should learn the lingo. They generally aren't called brothels in Brazil.) Next, I would say Copacabana. After that, I would put Ipanema and Barra a distant third and fourth.

Forget staying in Centro. You don't want to be hanging out there at night. Copa, Ipanema and Barra are all acceptable. Copa and Ipanema are so close together it's not a big difference. Ipanema (and next door Leblon) is a nicer area. Most think the beach is nicer. As far as staying in Barra, this has been discussed extensively the last two months. In a nutshell, Barra is very nice, more modern but it is a bit out of the way and not very walkable.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2512196]New Year's Eve festivities in Rio cancelled. Smart move by Crivella.

[URL]https://www.jb.com.br/rio/2020/12/1027108-reveillon-no-rio-de-janeiro-e-cancelado-por-pandemia-de-covid.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
For those who wants to participate in private parties on New Year there are some options: Morro da Urca, Hotel Pestana Rio Atlantica, Faro Beach Club in Leblon and Clube Monte Líbano.
Pestana charges R$ 800-R$ 2.500 and includes breakfast (and most likely a covid infection)
[URL]https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/festas-particulares-de-reveillon-seguem-marcadas-em-meio-pandemia-24801523?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=O%20Globo&fbclid=IwAR1G26zWGEZrgameDljul2ksn3lDQK038RiujWNWfwLREnOp35xyxAN2mgI[/URL]

1 barra posto 6.

2 Botafogo.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2512758]Hey guys,

Which district in Rio would be the safest in general to live for 6 months? I want it to be close to the brothels. What are the general hours of these places? I will be working remote between 10 am to 8 pm Rio-time.[/QUOTE]

Covid-19 test needed to enter Brazil after the 30:th of Dezember.

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2020/12/18/governo-vai-exigir-exame-negativo-de-covid-19-para-brasileiro-ou-estrangeiro-entrar-no-pais.ghtml[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2512929]Covid-19 test needed to enter Brazil after the 30:th of Dezember.

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2020/12/18/governo-vai-exigir-exame-negativo-de-covid-19-para-brasileiro-ou-estrangeiro-entrar-no-pais.ghtml[/URL][/QUOTE]I looked all over the brazilian government website and no notice posted there. Not at the ministry of tourism or citizenship. A month ago there was news that Colombia would re-instate PCR test requirements but that turned out to be a leaked memo and false. Does anyone have a link to a government source?

Gparena is best.

However my point about gpguia is that it is run by admins in sao paulo.

Therefore it is less influenced by the reindeer games of all the RJ admins (who are working their game with the GDPs).

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2512773]Vagabundo might have a different answer, but to me it's [URL]Gparena.net[/URL]. It's massive.

Gpgia -- I've found a bit skimpy in Rio.

Don't know about ForumX, since it won't let me read without registering, and to register demands a phone number, so screw it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2512945]I looked all over the brazilian government website and no notice posted there. Not at the ministry of tourism or citizenship. A month ago there was news that Colombia would re-instate PCR test requirements but that turned out to be a leaked memo and false. Does anyone have a link to a government source?[/QUOTE]
Just in case all of the brazilian newspapers are lying, here is an official link (took 40 sec of Googling):
[URL]https://www.in.gov.br/en/web/dou/-/portaria-n-630-de-17-de-dezembro-de-2020-294872503[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2512956]Just in case all of the brazilian newspapers are lying, here is an official link (took 40 sec of Googling):
[URL]https://www.in.gov.br/en/web/dou/-/portaria-n-630-de-17-de-dezembro-de-2020-294872503[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. If I google for that I don't get it because I'm not located in Brazil.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2512785]Interesting way to frame a common question. The issue is that the brothels tend to be where safety is an issue at night. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Yes, I realize they are called Termas here, I just wanted to get str8 to the point I guess. How about in call services? Are they a thing in Rio like they are extensively in Medellin for Example? I don't need to visit a Terma at night if I can hit up incall or outcalls, preferably in nicer areas.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2512949]Gparena is best.

However my point about gpguia is that it is run by admins in sao paulo.

Therefore it is less influenced by the reindeer games of all the RJ admins (who are working their game with the GDPs).[/QUOTE]Can you elaborate? Do you believe the reviews may be rigged? That would be a bummer.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2512969]How about in call services? Are they a thing in Rio like they are extensively in Medellin for Example? [/QUOTE]Yes, they are. There are tons of them. For every taste and budget. Just read the last 30 pages of this forum.

Also, for a 6-months stay, DEFINITELY read Vagabundo posts about Transamerica (and contact him too if you haven't already).

Sure, but first a word from our advertiser's Vagabundo's Pussy Patrol.

Monday was Halle Berry, a new girl from the not so secret terma. Pernoite, and drinks at Olegario was 400+ 200.

Highlight was R21, a bar at Olegario with nice hookah pipes.

Tuesday was Nina Deponca, 300 pernoite.

Wednesday was Monique / Jada Fire, 300 pernoite. I ordered ice in from a joint near Olegario, along with Jameson's, red bull, and a 12 pack.

Thursday, was Nina Deponca, 300 pernoite.

Friday, I am sleeping alone thank fully.

I did do a little recce of 4 x 4 at 16 h. I popped in briefly and snuck in the back door to the boate, which is open! Praise the lord. I got a number of a 20 year old negra with 1 kid, and it is game on. I didn't even pay the cover. I will be back next week. It's like Feliz Natal for all the mongers of the world who have passed through Rio.

OK, so, the question was, how do the admins of a site like GParena use their cyber to get girls? Like any geeks anywhere. Let your imagination roam. 5 years ago, I made some effort to write on the local boards, and even used them to gain intel to the extent of making my own list of targets before my trips to Rio (a good practice). So, for the dedicated hacker monger, you can get a VPN and get a Brazilian IP and do your cyber even before your dick is in Rio. Once you are here, the preparation will pay off like a intel agent hunting a high value target. Anyone who thinks Russians are the best pro's in the world is nuts; Brazilians have them beat by a country mile. Notice, the best girls never have pics in their whatsapp profile pictures? Well, so back to the subject at hand, the admins of the local sites will post or take down reviews on demand from their preferred girls, who are likely compensating them somehow. I've been in some of these reindeer games. It is a business. There are legalities, like whether one can really 'pimp' legally. I haven't studied the local law, but I understand pimping is illegal, but being a hooker is legal in Brazil. On the edge of this is the cyber punk -- one of the local cyber guys is a one legged Asian dude, who, I imagine isn't objectively that attractive, but he does have this really huuuuge keyboard. You get the idea. But what does Vagabundo know?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2513068]Can you elaborate? Do you believe the reviews may be rigged? That would be a bummer.

Yes, they are. There are tons of them. For every taste and budget. Just read the last 30 pages of this forum.

Also, for a 6-months stay, DEFINITELY read Vagabundo posts about Transamerica (and contact him too if you haven't already).[/QUOTE]

Senhor Vagabundo, stay safe in Transamerica.

[URL]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2020/12/6049898-barra-da-tijuca-e-o-bairro-do-rio-com-mais-casos-de-covid-19-desde-o-inicio-da-pandemia.html[/URL]

Senhor Sperto, Obrigado.

Thanks for the warning. Here in Barra at Transamerica is my Monday (Friday), as I do real work on Friday-Monday morning, and then go back to heavy duty mongering on Monday, when the best girls come back out for the pernoites.

Yes, your warning is timely and I must report the death of a wingman. He was a friend of Chris H. Without saying too much, he was a soldier, and I hereby offer the words of Kipling.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier.

I've said, "I will raise a whisky and fuck a Brazilian girl for him" to which Chris H replied, "he loved having a good time. " Chris H also says he had bad asthma from smoking.

So, if you do have a preexisting condition, I suggest waiting until after the vaccine gets to 100% penetration and the world is safer.

I made the choice that I am well enough, and took the risk to take advantage of the 5. 1 USD BRL exchange. I assume I've been exposed. I've done short triathlons as recently as January. I went out to shop, and bought 22 liters of fluids (hydrate or die), with suco going for as low as 2.47 reais for a liter (4 liters), 6 liters of coconut juice (6.9 reais), diet coke, schwebs tonic, etc, etc.

That said, probably best to avoid the super spreader drinking (as pictured in the link from sr sperto), but really, if going to a terma is not a super spreader, well, .

As a mentor and teammate has printed on a coin he carries in his pocket:

Memento Mori.

"you could leave life right now".

Carpe diem.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2513091]Senhor Vagabundo, stay safe in Transamerica.

[URL]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2020/12/6049898-barra-da-tijuca-e-o-bairro-do-rio-com-mais-casos-de-covid-19-desde-o-inicio-da-pandemia.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

I think you are also tradeandtravel, so we have met off line.

But for the benefit of the thread, I will take a few sentences about Botafogo.

Botafogo. Jardim Botanica (where Solarium, the best Zona Sul Terma IMHO) - is a middle class neighborhood in Brazil, next to a favela (Santa Marta) in some places. The prime spots are on Rua Sao Clemente and Rua Bambina, west to the location of Solarium.

The key is using city buses, and of course, the metro.

I lived at Sao Clemente for 7 months in 2015-2016 and was maybe the happiest of all my 27 trips to Rio. Indeed, even though I have become a fan of Transamerica in Barra the Tijuca, I would move back to Botafogo, and probably will, when and if I find a good spot.

Why?

Well:

1. It is mixed race (Barra is decidedly not friendly to blacker people, which is my particular interest as far as girls, though I like the Germanic girls like Giselle as much as anyone), and importantly, my best black girls sometimes avoid Barra (as they did Leblon) because it is not friendly to black girls.

2. It is a middle class neighborhood. You've got professors, diplomats, lawyers, and janitors, all co-existing, on central arteries of travel, commerce, and intellectual life of the great megacity of Rio with its 12 million souls. The Brazilian west point is at Urca, nearby. FGV and other Hi power intellectual institutions are nearby. It is on a metro! (You need to get on the metro and stop being driven everywhere, if only because that's how you take in the life of a city). A nice bus from the metro goes west into the best areas of Zona Sul to Gavea, where their is a university, which offers language classes.

3. Everyone who knows Rio can easily get to Botafogo and do sex work there. It's visually awesome -- Christo, sugar loaf, etc.

4. it is not Copacabana. Look, people think they have arrived in Rio if they have a penthouse next to Copacobana Palace. Wrong. The water is a sewer if you swim, which you should, for health. The worst of tourism is on display in Copa -- crime, and all the desperate crap that the lower end of the economy entails.

5. Botafogo, on the other hand has embassies (Portugal), think tanks, centuries old schools for the richest and most powerful of Brazil, and all the good things that come with that.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2512918]1 barra posto 6.

2 Botafogo.[/QUOTE]

She like Jada fire fucking the Redhead on kink dot com.

[QUOTE=TheWatcher;2512704]A friend just sent me text from 4x4. It opened today and he is in there right now. I hope to get a full report later.[/QUOTE]As mentioned earlier in this thread, 4 X4 is indeed open again. I had the opportunity to stop by there this evening for my last night in Rio. I've been going to Rio on frequent basis since 2011 always considered 4 x4 as one of my favorites. Below are some details from my experience at 4 x4 tonight (Friday):

- Everything inside looks basically the same as it did before. Modest updates to the bar front and upholstered seating areas. Rooms are still shit as well as locker rooms and bathrooms. Steam rooms were turned off. You have to ask for toiletries now from the bathroom attendant rather than being able to grab it yourself from the sink area like before.

- Lots of new faces at the front desk, behind the bar, wait staff, locker room, and bathroom attendants. Two of the three front desk staff spoke great English.

- Hours: Mon-Fri 1:30 pm to Midnight.

- Pricing: $70 are entrance (includes a drink or two) and is waived if you session before 6 pm (same as before). $270 are (30 min), $390 are (1 HR / cabine), $450 (1 HR / suite).

- Out of all the Tier 1 termas, I would say 4 x 4 gave the least shit about sanitizing areas. I recommend bringing your own hand sanitizer as it is currently not present inside the terma except behind the bar. Monte Carlo was the best at keeping things sanitized (hand sanitizer on every table and mounted in every hallway, staff regularly spraying down tables and chairs, spraying disinfectant in the rooms after each session).

- I arrived at about 5 pm and there were only about 10 girls and around 12 guys (about half in civilian clothes). I was not impressed and didn't recognize any of the girls from previous visits. However, I wanted to wait a little longer to see if more girls would arrive after 6 pm and a few did.

- At one point I counted 18 girls in the bar area. Assuming I missed a few that may have been upstairs getting fucked, I'd say there were probably around 20-22 girls working.

- As usual, it was an interesting mix of girls. However, based on my preferences, I would have only taken around 5 out of the 22 girls upstairs. I thought one I was hot and would come back for her if I had another day to do so. There were 4 girls that I recognized from previous visits and ended up sessioning with one of them. The remaining girls in my opinion looked pretty rough / favela type.

- The atmosphere tonight was rather calm. Not the usual party / festive environment that I am used to experiencing at 4 x 4. Jorginho has been working at T65 now so there is currently no emcee or stage show like before.

- I'm sure 4 x 4 will get better in the coming weeks. The receptionist mentioned to me as I was paying my bill that more girls would be coming back next week. Unfortunately, I won't be around next week to see it but will be back again in February.

[QUOTE=SameJdc;2513164]As mentioned earlier in this thread, 4 X4 is indeed open again. I had the opportunity to stop by there this evening for my last night in Rio. I've been going to Rio on frequent basis since 2011 always considered 4 x4 as one of my favorites. Below are some details from my experience at 4 x4 tonight (Friday)[/QUOTE]Thanks! I love 4 x4 too and glad it's back. Hopefully the lineup will be even better than before with time.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2513090]Well, so back to the subject at hand, the admins of the local sites will post or take down reviews on demand from their preferred girls, who are likely compensating them somehow.[/QUOTE]OK, that I understand. Can't trust reviews blindly. Sadly, anyone who has ever bought anything off Amazon knows that.

My MO so far has been choosing girls or agencies with a high number of positive TDs from longtime foristas. It mostly works, even though even GDPs can have a bad day every now and then. But it's hard to fake dozens of reviews.

BTW, I don't need a VPN to access Brazilian forums anymore from the USA Used to be the case, but not anymore.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2513134]Senhor Sperto, Obrigado.

Thanks for the warning. Here in Barra at Transamerica is my Monday (Friday), as I do real work on Friday-Monday morning, and then go back to heavy duty mongering on Monday, when the best girls come back out for the pernoites.

Yes, your warning is timely and I must report the death of a wingman. [/QUOTE]That's terrible, especially that the solution is around the corner. Try to stay safe out there!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2512745]You are missing something. She takes birth control pills or has an implant. Easier to get HIV through the ass. Ain't no pills or implant for that.[/QUOTE]Google it bro.

I've been using it for several years.

[QUOTE=TheWatcher;2512704]A friend just sent me text from 4 x 4. It opened today and he is in there right now. I hope to get a full report later.[/QUOTE]Fantastic news!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2512929]Covid-19 test needed to enter Brazil after the 30:th of Dezember.

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2020/12/18/governo-vai-exigir-exame-negativo-de-covid-19-para-brasileiro-ou-estrangeiro-entrar-no-pais.ghtml[/URL][/QUOTE]That is a bummer that a PCR test is needed, have not taken the test before. I might be confused or don't understand what I'm reading correctly, Did it say people are permitted to enter for vacation or travels? And not resident or citizens of Brazil. The article also said at the end it was not enforced.

I am planning to go there in Jan and I'm a US citizen there for vacation and have no Brazilian resident or citizenship.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2512956]Just in case all of the brazilian newspapers are lying, here is an official link (took 40 sec of Googling):
[URL]https://www.in.gov.br/en/web/dou/-/portaria-n-630-de-17-de-dezembro-de-2020-294872503[/URL][/QUOTE]I am have trip planned for Rio Jan 12th.

It takes 3 - 5 days to get the Results for a PCR Tests. It is not possible to ensure I get a test results back in time for I depart. (If you have to test 72 hours before departing).

I had a crazy line up of girls set up! One from the top escort site in Brazil too!

Is entry to Brazil allowed for sightseeing?

[QUOTE=SameJdc;2513164]As mentioned earlier in this thread, 4 X4 is indeed open again.

- I'm sure 4 x 4 will get better in the coming weeks. The receptionist mentioned to me as I was paying my bill that more girls would be coming back next week. Unfortunately, I won't be around next week to see it but will be back again in February.[/QUOTE]Good to know. Not saying it will amount to much (since I'll be coming next week during the holidays) but I'll give a report to see if it's any good then.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2513331]That is a bummer that a PCR test is needed, have not taken the test before. I might be confused or don't understand what I'm reading correctly, Did it say people are permitted to enter for vacation or travels? And not resident or citizens of Brazil. The article also said at the end it was not enforced.

I am planning to go there in Jan and I'm a US citizen there for vacation and have no Brazilian resident or citizenship.[/QUOTE]This is what the decree says in article 7:

[URL]https://www.in.gov.br/en/web/dou/-/p...2020-294872503[/URL]

"The restrictions dealt with in this Ordinance do not prevent foreigners from entering the country by air, provided that the migratory requirements appropriate to their condition are complied with, including having an entry visa, when required by the Brazilian legal system.

1 The traveler of international origin, Brazilian or foreign, must present to the airline responsible for the flight, before boarding:

I. Document proving laboratory tests (RT-PCR), for screening for infection by SARS-CoV-2, with a negative / non-reactive result, performed 72 hours prior to the moment of shipment; and.

II. Traveller's Health Declaration (DSV) completed (in print or digitally) with the agreement on the sanitary measures that must be complied with during the period in the country.

2 The measures provided for in 1 take effect from 12/30/2020.

3 The migratory authority, at the provocation of the health authority, may prevent the entry into national territory of persons not listed in art. 3, when they do not meet the requirements set out in 1. ".

Starting on December 30th, 2021 you will need to bring a negative PCR test to board the plane to Brazil and sign the declaration agreeing to their COVID restrictions.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2513438]This is what the decree says in article 7:

[URL]https://www.in.gov.br/en/web/dou/-/p...2020-294872503[/URL]

"The restrictions dealt with in this Ordinance do not prevent foreigners from entering the country by air, provided that the migratory requirements appropriate to their condition are complied with, including having an entry visa, when required by the Brazilian legal system.

1 The traveler of international origin, Brazilian or foreign, must present to the airline responsible for the flight, before boarding:

I. Document proving laboratory tests (RT-PCR), for screening for infection by SARS-CoV-2, with a negative / non-reactive result, performed 72 hours prior to the moment of shipment; and.

II. Traveller's Health Declaration (DSV) completed (in print or digitally) with the agreement on the sanitary measures that must be complied with during the period in the country.

2 The measures provided for in 1 take effect from 12/30/2020.

3 The migratory authority, at the provocation of the health authority, may prevent the entry into national territory of persons not listed in art. 3, when they do not meet the requirements set out in 1. ".

Starting on December 30th, 2021 you will need to bring a negative PCR test to board the plane to Brazil and sign the declaration agreeing to their COVID restrictions.[/QUOTE]Its an impossible situation. It can take 3-5 days for you to get results, there is no way to bring a test that is only 72 hours old!! If someone arrives with a test that is 5 days old, I wonder if they will send you back?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2513478]Its an impossible situation. It can take 3-5 days for you to get results, there is no way to bring a test that is only 72 hours old!! If someone arrives with a test that is 5 days old, I wonder if they will send you back?[/QUOTE]Are you sure you can't have resuts in 72 hours. In France you get them in maximum 72 hours, often in 24 hours, but one thing Brasil about 50 000 infected people / day. And Christmas and New year in the future so I think mid January it will be worst take care.

I would like to go in Rio but now I prefer waiting.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2513478]Its an impossible situation. It can take 3-5 days for you to get results, there is no way to bring a test that is only 72 hours old!! If someone arrives with a test that is 5 days old, I wonder if they will send you back?[/QUOTE]What impossible? There are others countries (like Thailand) that required the 72 hours RT-PCR test and plenty of travellers got it before their flight without problems. Of course you must to use private clinics.

I'm going to have to get one of these for my trip to Sao Paulo at the end of January.

The costs range is from £100-£150 for a private test in person where I live and results with 24-48 hours.

My flight to Brazil is at night time too, at a time when the clinics will be closed, so will have to do the 24 hour results test two days before I go.

So basically I won't know if I'm actually going until 24 hours before I go. I suffer with bad anxiety and this is going to kill me haha.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2513438]This is what the decree says in article 7:

[URL]https://www.in.gov.br/en/web/dou/-/p...2020-294872503[/URL]

"The restrictions dealt with in this Ordinance do not prevent foreigners from entering the country by air, provided that the migratory requirements appropriate to their condition are complied with, including having an entry visa, when required by the Brazilian legal system.

1 The traveler of international origin, Brazilian or foreign, must present to the airline responsible for the flight, before boarding:

I. Document proving laboratory tests (RT-PCR), for screening for infection by SARS-CoV-2, with a negative / non-reactive result, performed 72 hours prior to the moment of shipment; and.

II. Traveller's Health Declaration (DSV) completed (in print or digitally) with the agreement on the sanitary measures that must be complied with during the period in the country.

2 The measures provided for in 1 take effect from 12/30/2020.

3 The migratory authority, at the provocation of the health authority, may prevent the entry into national territory of persons not listed in art. 3, when they do not meet the requirements set out in 1. ".

Starting on December 30th, 2021 you will need to bring a negative PCR test to board the plane to Brazil and sign the declaration agreeing to their COVID restrictions.[/QUOTE]What is the travelers Heath declaration and where is it available to fill out and sign?

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2513592]What is the travelers Heath declaration and where is it available to fill out and sign?[/QUOTE]It's just a paper or digital form you fill out like other countries. Not sure what exactly it is because it's not December 30th yet. They may end up dropping the PCR test in the future. I think this decree, frankly, is going to get amended.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2513521]What impossible? There are others countries (like Thailand) that required the 72 hours RT-PCR test and plenty of travellers got it before their flight without problems. Of course you must to use private clinics.[/QUOTE]This is the USA, we have the most test in the world, we have the best testing in the world, but 72 hours is not guaranteed. Don't listen too much on the old senile Presidents bullshit talk. At least we don't hear from him no more.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2513604]It's just a paper or digital form you fill out like other countries. Not sure what exactly it is because it's not December 30th yet. They may end up dropping the PCR test in the future. I think this decree, frankly, is going to get amended.[/QUOTE]I hope so, but many other countries did not. I am just worried if I can receive it soon enough. And need to know do pharmacies like CVS count Saturday and Sunday as the days included as their 3-4 days results.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2513604]It's just a paper or digital form you fill out like other countries. Not sure what exactly it is because it's not December 30th yet. They may end up dropping the PCR test in the future. I think this decree, frankly, is going to get amended.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the timing of this just feels "off".

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2513438]This is what the decree says in article 7:


I. Document proving laboratory tests (RT-PCR), for screening for infection by SARS-CoV-2, with a negative / non-reactive result, performed 72 hours prior to the moment of shipment; and..[/QUOTE]Does this mean prior to starting my journey?

My flight goes from Manchester (UK) to Amsterdam (long overnight stopover) then to Rio.

In theory would I be ok with a test that was performed 71 hours before my flight leaves Manchester?

I just went for a swim at the beach today.

On balance, while I like Botafogo because I have many real friends there, Barra posto 6 (Transamerica) wins for me:

1. The beach is really nice, and safe. As a neighbor told me, this is the safest 'hood in Rio. It really is Bolsonaro country. I like the food in Botafogo, like Na Brasa Colombia, but they have a Na Brasa Colombia here in Barra at Olegario district / street, which is near the metro, which brings me to the next point.

2. There is a metro. Metro Jardim Oceanico is not as well known, but it is a metro, and there is therefore cheap and high speed travel to all of Rio, which most of we happy few mongers know well.

3. It appears from Instagram recon of my favorite girls that the beaches in Recreio is where the hottest young ladies go on their beach days. So, I would recommend some recce of the beaches out past Recreio.

Oh, yeah, for what it is worth, I did try to find some Truvada or Truvada generico at the local pharmacia, including Pacheco, where the first referred me to. However, I did not find any. They do have the oral self test kits for $80 reais, as has been discussed on this board earlier. The closest local hospital where there are free tests is Av Ayrton Senna 2000, near Barra Shopping. Be safe, let me know if you are in Rio.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2513142]I think you are also tradeandtravel, so we have met off line.

But for the benefit of the thread, I will take a few sentences about Botafogo.

Botafogo. Jardim Botanica (where Solarium, the best Zona Sul Terma IMHO) - is a middle class neighborhood in Brazil, next to a favela (Santa Marta) in some places. The prime spots are on Rua Sao Clemente and Rua Bambina, west to the location of Solarium.

The key is using city buses, and of course, the metro.

I lived at Sao Clemente for 7 months in 2015-2016 and was maybe the happiest of all my 27 trips to Rio. Indeed, even though I have become a fan of Transamerica in Barra the Tijuca, I would move back to Botafogo, and probably will, when and if I find a good spot...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2513606]This is the USA, we have the most test in the world, we have the best testing in the world, but 72 hours is not guaranteed. Don't listen too much on the old senile Presidents bullshit talk. At least we don't hear from him no more.[/QUOTE]I have been tested. They told me 48 hours for the result. I got it in less than 24!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2513478]Its an impossible situation. It can take 3-5 days for you to get results, there is no way to bring a test that is only 72 hours old!! If someone arrives with a test that is 5 days old, I wonder if they will send you back?[/QUOTE]Plenty of labs, at least in large cities, offer rapid PCR tests. Some require a plane ticket, others a little more money. Sure it's a hassle, but on the bright side, I'd be a little more comfortable knowing that on a 10-hour flight my seatmates are likely not to have the disease.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2513561]I'm going to have to get one of these for my trip to Sao Paulo at the end of January.

The costs range is from 100-150 for a private test in person where I live and results with 24-48 hours.

My flight to Brazil is at night time too, at a time when the clinics will be closed, so will have to do the 24 hour results test two days before I go.

So basically I won't know if I'm actually going until 24 hours before I go. I suffer with bad anxiety and this is going to kill me haha.[/QUOTE]This is a quote in NYC. My friends from other cities tell me that free rapid tests are not available, BUT the paid tests are reasonable (I heard $30-50, nothing like the numbers you've mentioned). The result is also available within 24 hours.

[URL]https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-rapid-testing.page[/URL]

Quote starts-.

You can now make an appointment for a free rapid COVID-19 virus test at the Health Department's COVID Express sites throughout the city. Test results are available within 24 hours or less of your visit. This means that most patients will receive their test results on the same day as their visit. All tests performed at these sites are PCR-based laboratory diagnostic tests, which are the most accurate type of test available. COVID-19 tests performed at COVID Express sites are free to all New Yorkers, regardless of immigration status.

-Quote ends.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2513754]This is a quote in NYC. My friends from other cities tell me that free rapid tests are not available, BUT the paid tests are reasonable (I heard $30-50, nothing like the numbers you've mentioned). The result is also available within 24 hours.

[URL]https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-rapid-testing.page[/URL]

Quote starts-.

You can now make an appointment for a free rapid COVID-19 virus test at the Health Department's COVID Express sites throughout the city. Test results are available within 24 hours or less of your visit. This means that most patients will receive their test results on the same day as their visit. All tests performed at these sites are PCR-based laboratory diagnostic tests, which are the most accurate type of test available. COVID-19 tests performed at COVID Express sites are free to all New Yorkers, regardless of immigration status.

-Quote ends.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info but where I live, north east England, I can't seem to find any under £99.

If I get a negative result and make it to Brazil, I won't care about the cost though.

The D. R tried the same thing and quickly dropped it. I have a trip already paid and booked starting Super Bowl Weekend and where I live it's impossible to do this nonsense. I'm guessing after a month they will drop this like a hit coal, anybody willing to bet?

[URL]https://twitter.com/paradisegirlbr/status/1338629835678224387?s=21[/URL]

Saw this on Twitter, these broads talk I'm sure it's not just foreigners got them asking for what they asking. Maybe so but I think it was would be difficult to maintain if it was only foreigners paying these prices.

1000 brl is still only 250 usd.

A porn star will charge 1000 usd.

That said I had a girl ask 600 brl / hour one time.

I said no.

I am getting 300 or 400 pernoite.

All you need to do is make a market— get 10-20 girls and offer 350 pernoite until you get yes.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2513919][URL]https://twitter.com/paradisegirlbr/status/1338629835678224387?s=21[/URL]

Saw this on Twitter, these broads talk I'm sure it's not just foreigners got them asking for what they asking. Maybe so but I think it was would be difficult to maintain if it was only foreigners paying these prices.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2513919][URL]https://twitter.com/paradisegirlbr/status/1338629835678224387?s=21[/URL]

Saw this on Twitter, these broads talk I'm sure it's not just foreigners got them asking for what they asking. Maybe so but I think it was would be difficult to maintain if it was only foreigners paying these prices.[/QUOTE]Well this is attached to what you posted. The most expensive hookers in Brazil. The cheapest of the most expensive is 600 per hour and the most expensive is 1,000 per hour. What tickles me is that there are guys reporting going to Monte Carlo and other termas and spending more money. AND chicks from Mabs asking these prices.

[URL]https://paradisegirl.com.br/blog/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa-mais-caras-brasil?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=own-tweet[/URL]

The comments are insightful too. One guy says that in Club Platinum in Salvador you will not find a chick under 600. Another guy says that in Sao Paulo these chicks would fetch no more than 250-300 and the first one on the list asking for 600 is worth no more than 150.

Mr E wrote.

"The comments are insightful too. One guy says that in Club Platinum in Salvador you will not find a chick under 600. Another guy says that in Sao Paulo these chicks would fetch no more than 250-300 and the first one on the list asking for 600 is worth no more than 150."

I agree with this completely.

On the thread of local web masters helping girls, I will note that a few years ago when I was actively writing reviews for girls they would often ask me "post on the site that it is X amount, but would accept a lower amount".

If you watch "The Girlfriend Experience" with Sasha Grey (a great cross over hope that never went more than a few movies), there is a scene of the escort played by Sasha who fucks a influencer / web master kind of john, who, clearly she would not fuck unless it were for his influence.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2513985]Well this is attached to what you posted. The most expensive hookers in Brazil. The cheapest of the most expensive is 600 per hour and the most expensive is 1,000 per hour. What tickles me is that there are guys reporting going to Monte Carlo and other termas and spending more money. AND chicks from Mabs asking these prices.

[URL]https://paradisegirl.com.br/blog/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa-mais-caras-brasil?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=own-tweet[/URL]

The comments are insightful too. One guy says that in Club Platinum in Salvador you will not find a chick under 600. Another guy says that in Sao Paulo these chicks would fetch no more than 250-300 and the first one on the list asking for 600 is worth no more than 150.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2513919][URL]https://twitter.com/paradisegirlbr/status/1338629835678224387?s=21[/URL]

Saw this on Twitter, these broads talk I'm sure it's not just foreigners got them asking for what they asking. Maybe so but I think it was would be difficult to maintain if it was only foreigners paying these prices.[/QUOTE]I recognize a few names on this list. They are on the high end for SP escorts, but they are all very attractive, well-known and have solid reviews. Let's just say these girls have "brands". I'm sure the SP locals keep them busy and some also travel to other Brazilian cities.

Which leads me to another point, freelancers often have regulars who pay one price and new clients pay another.

Mr. Enternational, you're right you pay this price at Monte Carlo. That's why Sao Paulo escorts can be a great deal. You can also find SP escorts just as hot and well-reviewed for 400-500 Reais.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2513985]Well this is attached to what you posted. The most expensive hookers in Brazil. The cheapest of the most expensive is 600 per hour and the most expensive is 1,000 per hour. What tickles me is that there are guys reporting going to Monte Carlo and other termas and spending more money. AND chicks from Mabs asking these prices.
[/QUOTE]Monte Carlo doesn't ask for 600 an hour for the garotas. It's about half that if I remember correctly. The room adds to the cost. That's what a terma is for though. They provide you everything and hire hookers who do a good job (or at least that's the idea).

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2513928]1000 brl is still only 250 usd. A porn star will charge 1000 usd.[/QUOTE]Elisa Sanches charged me surprisingly low prices. Like the equivalent of $50 USD per hour. And she absolutely was not a clock watcher, and was really chill. We talked about a lot of stuff as well as had sexual relations. I learned how little she makes from most of her scenes. Like $100! Especially when she was working in Mexico.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2513991]Monte Carlo doesn't ask for 600 an hour for the garotas. It's about half that if I remember correctly. The room adds to the cost. That's what a terma is for though. They provide you everything and hire hookers who do a good job (or at least that's the idea).[/QUOTE]Nope, 600 sounds about right AI.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2513985]What tickles me is that there are guys reporting going to Monte Carlo and other termas and spending more money. [/QUOTE]Sure, but what's R600 today? Around $115? More than a simple fuck in Rio, but I don't go to a terma for a quick fuck. Mingling with almost naked beauties, rubbing against their bodies, them rubbing against you, taking your sweet time, having a drink with their hands all over you before heading out for a practically guaranteed quality fuck. Well, call me a romantic.

I want to avoid being overcharged; however, I'm more than happy to pay to the market price. In my opinion, the best price arbitrage is between countries: for instance, go to PI for the cheapest fucks instead haggling in Dubai. However, the market in RJ is less straightforward than AC, Pattaya, Sosua, etc., especially as an outsider. Its possible to easily find many girls offering a fuck for 100 reais or less in the same market as luxury escorts demanding 600 reais for the same fuck. For my upcoming trip, I've been doing some additional price discovery. I can access two of the GP* forums and read translations of the TDs posted by punters. Also, I've been zapping the girls directly.

The biggest difference that I've noticed is on pernoite. Generally, a garota on BarraVIP, RioSexSite, or P55 will quote 300-600/ HR. But their per noite ranges from 1500 up to 3000 for 6-9 hrs. RJ seems to have a price premium. The quotes are higher than other areas that I've checked, SP and BH, for both hourly and per noite. On the other hand, I know of at least one English-fluent garota in RJ who wants 400/ HR but only 1000/ nt and provides great service and could easily post on an escort site in terms of looks.

It seems that the only way to find deals is to stay in the market. However, price research is its own job that diverts me from my real world priorities. It too has diminishing returns. I've rarely had poor quality service from a Brasileira as compared to a Dominican or Colombian. I'll try again in February, to find something satisfactory (even memorable) w / o breaking the market.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2514048]Sure, but what's R600 today? Around $115? More than a simple fuck in Rio, but I don't go to a terma for a quick fuck. Mingling with almost naked beauties, rubbing against their bodies, them rubbing against you, taking your sweet time, having a drink with their hands all over you before heading out for a practically guaranteed quality fuck. Well, call me a romantic.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. A terma is so much more than a simple fuck. All the things you mentioned that you partake in before and after boning the chick are what make a Terma visit special. Something every guy should experience in their life. Only other place similar is the FKKs which are great (but they don't have Brasilenas).

Hope this helps some.

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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2514041]Nope, 600 sounds about right AI.[/QUOTE]Not for the girl. You don't pay the girl 600 reals. That includes the room and entrance fee. The garota doesn't make that. Her cut is about half that.

Exactly.

Amateurs study sex.

Professionals study logistics.

Real insiders study personnel.

Which is why locals go to termas and get numbers.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2514069]Not for the girl. You don't pay the girl 600 reals. That includes the room and entrance fee. The garota doesn't make that. Her cut is about half that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2514069]Not for the girl. You don't pay the girl 600 reals. That includes the room and entrance fee. The garota doesn't make that. Her cut is about half that.[/QUOTE]Oh, that's what you meant?

Sure, but why unbundle those? Do I care where my money goes after it leaves my wallet?

Admittedly, the locals rarely take girls to the room. They just load on cheap grab-ass entertainment and probably collect numbers from the girls.

[QUOTE=Combo;2514067]Totally agree. A terma is so much more than a simple fuck. All the things you mentioned that you partake in before and after boning the chick are what make a Terma visit special. Something every guy should experience in their life. Only other place similar is the FKKs which are great (but they don't have Brasilenas).[/QUOTE]Yep, and while the FKK quality is higher, so are the prices, and the girls tend to be more mechanical (or so I've heard).

An even cheaper option would be Bogota swing clubs as narrated by Routard. I'm not a swinger, but it seems that their setup would include some house girls, too, so not totally unlike termas.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2514097]Oh, that's what you meant?
Sure, but why unbundle those? Do I care where my money goes after it leaves my wallet?
[/QUOTE]I was making a point that a terma girl does not make 600 reals. She makes half that. So a garota at Mabs asking for 600+ reals is a bit much. Also, if you take two girls to the room you only pay for the one room (I did that a couple of times). Monte Carlo has a laminated sheet they can show you at the reception that details how the fees are broken down.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2514097]
Admittedly, the locals rarely take girls to the room. They just load on cheap grab-ass entertainment and probably collect numbers from the girls.
[/QUOTE]They get one day off a week and pay a fee if they need to take additional days. That fee is to secure their place. Evidently a lot of garotas want to work at termas but don't get to. At least this is what I've been told. I only got to bang a terma girl outside the terma on her day off, otherwise she wanted 200 reals just to cover her day off fee along with whatever else she charged.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2514012]Elisa Sanches charged me surprisingly low prices. Like the equivalent of $50 USD per hour. And she absolutely was not a clock watcher, and was really chill. We talked about a lot of stuff as well as had sexual relations. I learned how little she makes from most of her scenes. Like $100! Especially when she was working in Mexico.[/QUOTE]Porn doesn't pay. Piracy has really diminished what porn actresses get paid. Even American porn actresses have to have side hustles. The top USA Stars can tour strip clubs, hit Dubai for some big escort cash and maybe sell some shit. Many girls just have to hustle as an escort. Some girls just seem to do it for awhile for the fame.

Anyways, private web shows seem like an interesting way for the girls to make some cash.

I always have a blast in termas. I highly recommend them. While it's good to understand the economics, paying 300 reais for a room that you use for an hour is still a premium you pay for the girl at the termas. I don't think anyone would say bar fines in Asia weren't part of the cost for the girl even though it goes to the go-go bar.

The more useful idea is getting phone numbers of termas girls. While logistics and reliability are a factor, inviting termas girls over has been very satisfying for me. Performance is usually very good in the termas cabine. It can be even better if you establish a connection and have multiple sessions outside the termas. I have had a couple termas girls just hang out after and go to lunch or the beach.

By the way, since Termas 4 x 4 was closed on weekends. It was easier to schedule a 4 x4 girl.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2514318]By the way, since Termas 4 x 4 was closed on weekends. It was easier to schedule a 4 x4 girl.[/QUOTE]It seems that the 4 X 4 has reopened? To confirm.

Guys,

I moved to Sao Paolo from Rio yesterday due to already having booked accommodation here.

But looks like in Sao Paolo they have different Covid measures and soon will close everything which is not essential.

Don't know how is situation with termas but already no any alcohol served in bars after 8:00 pm.

So far I prefer Rio much more. Sao Paolo is too hectic, big, dangerous.

[QUOTE=TuneFor;2514619]Guys,

I moved to Sao Paolo from Rio yesterday due to already having booked accommodation here.

But looks like in Sao Paolo they have different Covid measures and soon will close everything which is not essential.

Don't know how is situation with termas but already no any alcohol served in bars after 8:00 pm.

So far I prefer Rio much more. Sao Paolo is too hectic, big, dangerous.[/QUOTE]Well damn, there goes my planned trip in Jan. Please update us on the situations there. Thanks.

I like Elisa,

I had fucked her in flamengo some years back.

Nice girl, good performer, and a good thing about a bona fide porn star is you know she is tested often and is careful to keep up her tests for her work.

Recommended.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2514012]Elisa Sanches charged me surprisingly low prices. Like the equivalent of $50 USD per hour. And she absolutely was not a clock watcher, and was really chill. We talked about a lot of stuff as well as had sexual relations. I learned how little she makes from most of her scenes. Like $100! Especially when she was working in Mexico.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

And 4 x 4 is IMHO the BEST rio terma, all things equal, for cost benefit, location, and the quality of girls.

I did pop my head in there at 4 pm or so last week (and didn't pay a cover, as I just jetted into the rear boate entrance in street cloths) .

It was not yet fully hopping, but I did get a number quickly from a high quality negra.

I will be going back to 4 x4 often and look forward to meeting up with wingmen there.

I had once thought -- and still think -- that if a man could figure out how to run a biz from the steam room at 4 x4, he has truly made it.

And I believe this is a good biz plan as within the same city block are contacts and networks to run any number of businesses.

The great thing about 4 x 4 is that it is central, not just to zona sul and norte, but within 300 meters of praca xv and the barcas to niteroi, which is where some very upscale cariocas I knew live. Each day they take the boat (which is nice in itself) to centro, do their thing, and come back to niteroi by boat. So you get that crowd accessing 4 x4 (and 65) too.

Speaking of living in certain places, I did actually live in a apartment blocks from 4 x4 for 3 months.

It was great for getting centro girls from the termas and the prives.

The options for dining and entrega were limited.

On the plus side, as I say, pros study logistics.

Many of those centro terma girls sleep at their termas, so a pernoite for 200 is very doable and preferable to their terma.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2514048]Sure, but what's R600 today? Around $115? More than a simple fuck in Rio, but I don't go to a terma for a quick fuck. Mingling with almost naked beauties, rubbing against their bodies, them rubbing against you, taking your sweet time, having a drink with their hands all over you before heading out for a practically guaranteed quality fuck. Well, call me a romantic.[/QUOTE]

Truvada is available in Rio at Pacheco pharmacia. You have to hunt around a little, but they will refer you to stores that have it.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2513272]Google it bro.

I've been using it for several years.[/QUOTE]

I had Nina Deponca over on Monday night. I paid her the usual 300 pernoite.

I took her to a nice sports store, decathalon, and bought her some Christmas gifts.

Decathalon is a really good store for sports gear shopping.

The store brand protein powder is at a good price, about half of a top tier brand name.

I had a bunch of my regulars hitting me up Tuesday, but since I was already nut busted, I was not in a hurry.

So I passed, and I will pick up the whoring next week.

It was the longest day of the year yesterday.

In this covid year, it's good just to be in summer somewhere. I pray for our fallen fellow monger whose asthma should have kept him from taking the risk of travel this time of year. Let it be a lesson on all of us to protect our health. Drink water and hydrate, invest in preventative measures like keeping a healthy weight (he was also overweight, which I am too). I buy up lots of aqua de coco, and I recommend the enjoy for hydration. I've been boxing / lifiting or swimming each day, and eating sushi instead of red meat daily.

Shakespeare's insights about living well come to mind, weirdly appropro of a site for the international sex trade.

Mark it, nuncle.

105 Have more than thou showest.

Speak less than thou knowest.

Lend less than thou owest.

Ride more than thou goest.

Learn more than thou trowest.

110 Set less than thou throwest.

Leave thy drink and thy working girl.

And keep in-a-door.

And thou shalt have more.

Than two tens to a score.

Dreaming of returning paradise on this Christmas Eve.

[URL]https://youtu.be/NezUkx80Sk4[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2514871]Dreaming of returning paradise on this Christmas Eve.

[URL]https://youtu.be/NezUkx80Sk4[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for posting. It was a very relaxing walk. It also brought back great memories.

For our comrades who have been asking about slender Brasileiras. The young woman at 3:22 is a good representation of a slender Brasileira. Typically and thankfully, a slender Brazilian woman still has the trademark pop in her bunda.

Can you find skinny asses in Brazil? You can find anything in a diverse nation of over 200 million.

Hey all,

First, thanks for all of the info. I am debating between Sao Paolo, Rio, and Medellin for the start of a 3 month trek through South America. Also considering Buenos Aires but border restrictions might prevent that. I went to Medellin in 2019 and posted report in that forum if you want to check it out.

I am intrigued by the reports of sessions with these porn stars. Is there a recommended way to go about finding them? I searched for Rio or Sao Paolo or just Brazil porn stars. Then looked around for twitter handles. Seems to be a bit tedious, which is fine. But I am wondering if there is a more efficient way.

Anyway, thanks again for all the great info. I will share what I learn along the way.

Barra from above: [URL]https://youtu.be/D1KIWZqKj6M[/URL].

[QUOTE=Fmc858;2514972]I am intrigued by the reports of sessions with these porn stars. Is there a recommended way to go about finding them? I searched for Rio or Sao Paolo or just Brazil porn stars.[/QUOTE]What is so intriguing about it? Bring an HD digital camera. Find a chick. Get her hair and makeup done. Press record. Start fucking. Pay her $500. Throw it up on some website. You just made a porn star.

When you find one that has already fucked on camera for money, give her 200 or 300 reais and start fucking the same you would do with all the other hookers.

Ipanema at sunset: [URL]https://youtu.be/uRxOelRgtaM[/URL].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2514985]What is so intriguing about it? Bring an HD digital camera. Find a chick. Get her hair and makeup done. Press record. Start fucking. Pay her $500. Throw it up on some website. You just made a porn star.

When you find one that has already fucked on camera for money, give her 200 or 300 reais and start fucking the same you would do with all the other hookers.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your help. Nevermind everyone else, I'm sorted now.

I haven't been to Florianopolis yet. I think I will work it in during my next trip. Also think I will eventually stop going to Germany altogether in favor of Brazil and discovering parts unknown around the world.

[URL]https://youtu.be/fEK53W3Y-vE[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/Tcd8FXAA4Hs[/URL]

So I went over to tradeandtravel's new rental in jacaparagua -- way the fuck up in the mountains -- and it turns out he wanted me to call in all my girls for his place.

Well, I came home to Transamerica, and ordered up Monique jada fire, and thus was born to Mary a virgin child, hahaha.

Man, I hate mongers who can't monger for themselves.

You need a model release.

Unless you are doing it for charity and the art.

If you want to make it a business.

If it's just a hobby, fine, but the girl will still be reluctant to put her face on the net.

Believe me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2514985]What is so intriguing about it? Bring an HD digital camera. Find a chick. Get her hair and makeup done. Press record. Start fucking. Pay her $500. Throw it up on some website. You just made a porn star.

When you find one that has already fucked on camera for money, give her 200 or 300 reais and start fucking the same you would do with all the other hookers.[/QUOTE]

Great report. However, like some other posts on this forum. I'm somewhat dismayed at the reports of BBFS.

Is this common even with girls from well known agencies like riovips, hotside, barravips?

How do you find girls who do not do BBFS if you want to be safe?

Also, any tips on finding girls who are great GFE material if I want to hang out with them, take them out etc. ? I don't speak the language.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2509000]Trip Report.

So I spent the last few days with hotside girl # 2. We hit it really good together, and ended up spending a few days together. We stayed 3 days in Copacabana followed by 3 days in Ipanema. We are the same age and fairly like minded, so it didn't felt I was spending time with a garota de programa but rather a good friend. We ended up visiting a few tourists spots in Rio, hitting the beaches, restaurants and shopping malls. We had a lot of fun. Our initial deal was 2000 reals for 1 week, which is a fairly good discount from her normal pernoite of 1300 and even her reduced pernoite of 800. Things went so good, I even decided to cancel my stay at Transamerica Barra and instead go to Buzios with her and stay at one of the most luxurious hotel there in the presidential suite. I believe I am fairly good at judging people and knowing whether we are compatible for longer time or not (GFE or more), I have traveled fairly good over the recent years, and met 150+ girls and a few of them were long multiple days stays and never had any issue whatsoever (SEA Asia). Now this hotside girl #2, I had the best sex with her, period. When drunk, she would do sex in a way I never experienced before, it is wild, spontaneous, dirty, she wants me to slap her and treat her real rough, it became all BBFS pussy, with CIP if I wanted towards the end. CIM / Rimming was no issue for her, and overall felt almost another dimension. I would rate her a good 8. 5/10 for looks and 9. 5/10 for sex. She would sleep by hugging and kissing, and genuinely had fun with me messing around.Buzios before exploring Rio again for couple of days and then off to Sao Paulo. Lesson learned. Peace out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2515111]Great report. However, like some other posts on this forum. I'm somewhat dismayed at the reports of BBFS.

Is this common even with girls from well known agencies like riovips, hotside, barravips?

How do you find girls who do not do BBFS if you want to be safe?

Also, any tips on finding girls who are great GFE material if I want to hang out with them, take them out etc. ? I don't speak the language.[/QUOTE]BBFS isn't very common. Most girls will insist on a condom. Unless you agree with the girl beforehand during your negotiations and she agrees for a slightly higher price and / or you get tested together. I have been going to Brazil since 2001 for work approx 2-3 times a year in different cities and towns up and down Brazil and so far have had FIVE girls agree to BBFS.

All have been due to my ability to charm them and they just got all hot and bothered and we just fucked. The last one I had was because she forgot a condom and was turned on so bad that she wanted it. I also present myself as a very clean and hygienic person and don't have any diseases.

As for hanging out and the whole GFE experience usually money does the talking. You can try to convince them to do it for free but I believe that they should be compensated for their time so I do it willingly. Look at it this way would you work for more hours for free if your boss asks you? Same mentality.

I usually book a girl for the weekend and everything is covered in one price.

Good Luck!!

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2515232]BBFS isn't very common. Most girls will insist on a condom... All have been due to my ability to charm them and they just got all hot and bothered and we just fucked. The last one I had was because she forgot a condom and was turned on so bad that she wanted it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2515232]BBFS isn't very common. Most girls will insist on a condom... You can try to convince them to do it for free but I believe that they should be compensated for their time so I do it willingly[/QUOTE]
Charm or maybe money? :D
Cheers

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2515111]
How do you find girls who do not do BBFS if you want to be safe?
[/QUOTE]You ever play Russian Roulette? These days BBFS isn't that dangerous as STDs aren't as common thanks to widespread condom use and hookers getting tested. I've fucked for six straight years in Latin America and will usually have 1-3 women a year bareback. I don't do more than that. I avoid doing it in brothels.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2515102]You need a model release.

Unless you are doing it for charity and the art.

If you want to make it a business.

If it's just a hobby, fine, but the girl will still be reluctant to put her face on the net.

Believe me.[/QUOTE]The reason why it intrigues me since, apparently, I need to explain myself to warrant a non-patronizing response from the ISG Gods, is because I like the idea of having anticipation to meet a provider. Being able to see a provider in porn while I am planning my trip would be a turn on. If she happens to be a star with great skills, even better. I am not trying to make a porn video of my own. This is simply about novelty and fantasy, the build-up and anticipation.

I thought it was a harmless question but maybe it comes off like I am looking for hand-holding. Not the case. I just figured this forum was about sharing info with like-minded fellas.

Cheers and Happy Holidays.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2515233]Charm or maybe money? :D
Cheers[/QUOTE]To be honest, I have tried to pay more for BBFS but I have never been successful. I have been more successful with DATY and making them orgasm and then doing the deed. Charm worked on one girl who I am meeting again in January in SP.

First of all: huge thanks to all the info here. Has made my current Rio trip more fun.

I have a question: is anything open today? 4 x 4 is open according to google but all their numbers are dead.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2515251]To be honest, I have tried to pay more for BBFS but I have never been successful. I have been more successful with DATY and making them orgasm and then doing the deed. Charm worked on one girl who I am meeting again in January in SP.[/QUOTE]If you want BBFS, then go to The Philippines. It's easy to get over there.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2515264]If you want BBFS, then go to The Philippines. It's easy to get over there.[/QUOTE]Its also easy to get STDs there as well.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2515409]Its also easy to get STDs there as well.[/QUOTE]Lucky I didn't get any. I didn't bareback a lot of them, but I did a couple. There were plenty who were ready to let a monger finish inside too.

I meant no offense.

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Fmc858;2515241]The reason why it intrigues me since, apparently, I need to explain myself to warrant a non-patronizing response from the ISG Gods, is because I like the idea of having anticipation to meet a provider. Being able to see a provider in porn while I am planning my trip would be a turn on. If she happens to be a star with great skills, even better. I am not trying to make a porn video of my own. This is simply about novelty and fantasy, the build-up and anticipation.

I thought it was a harmless question but maybe it comes off like I am looking for hand-holding. Not the case. I just figured this forum was about sharing info with like-minded fellas.

Cheers and Happy Holidays.[/QUOTE]

Here is an example of a acompanhante who thinks she can ask for more than the market worth. 1000 reais for 1 hour, I would love to whatsapp her send a message saying only hahahaha good luck. Stated she speaks fluent Ingles too. Imo she and her looks is not worth 1000 for 1 hour, and she is not tall enough to worth that much. Where did she find the confidence to put such an overpriced tag on her per hour? She is 7/10 in my standard chart. Crazy times. Hope people ignore her till she be reasonable.

[URL]https://www.private55.com/rio-de-janeiro/acompanhante/melissa-mineira[/URL]

I'm staying in Recreio thru Tuesday and need help figuring out where to monger locally. How's the setup at Paris Cafe and Perola Negra Club? Are there rooms available to bang?

You can somewhat mitigate any (already tiny) chance of getting an STD by making sure there's no cuts or open wounds on your peepee. Also have a shower and clean thoroughly after sex and take a pee to flush out your pipe.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2515442]I meant no offense.

Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Sorry. I quoted the wrong response. My bad.

So let me first start off by saying that I may be in the minority here. I don't have as much experience nor live here like some of the other fellas but I do visit Brazil about 4 x a year for the past 3 years so I've seen it before and post pandemic.

This is my first year in Brazil during the holidays and third time since the pandemic started. I usually bounce around South America as I can work wherever there is internet. So I've had 3-4 terrible sex experiences in the past week alone and I think it's because of the amount of talent around. All the clubs and termas have been closed for the holidays and my usual's are out with their families. Girls don't want to come out and make any money, all the hot ones are staying in until there's a wide release vaccine, and because of this I'm limited to PA. So far none of my girls look like who they're supposed to look like (wow what a shocker) and they all make up these excuses about why their photos are different. I mean I'm not new to PA and know photoshop does wonders but usually I can settle with a point or two deduction. This time around, it's just been completely catfished. So of course, girls already here so I take her up on her offer to fuck because honestly no other places are open and I'm too lazy to keep messaging random hoes on PA.

The past 3 times have got to be the absolute worst sex I've had here in Latin America. The very first girl was nice, but terrible at sex, second one at least had some ginormous tits, and the very last one (who I just finished with about 10 minutes ago) was the worst. This girl had such a stinky pussy that I told her to get on top. She slid on my dick and then wiggled around a bit (not once even bouncing) and then told me she got tired. I told her that's it we are stopping here. I can't finish, your pussy stinks, and I'm not enjoying myself. Take the money and gtfoh. Probably the easiest decision I've made this whole December break.

Note to self (unpopular opinion), stick to luxury escorts and girls from clubs / termas. At least then I know what I'm window shopping with. And don't come back during the holidays. Everything is closed and all the good ones are gone.

[QUOTE=IncelSam86;2515533]You can somewhat mitigate any (already tiny) chance of getting an STD by making sure there's no cuts or open wounds on your peepee. Also have a shower and clean thoroughly after sex and take a pee to flush out your pipe.[/QUOTE]And just to think how many condoms I've put on my peepee over the years instead of just glancing at it and peeing after sex. No one tells me anything, darn it!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2515418]Lucky I didn't get any....[/QUOTE]Good for you, I wasn't so lucky.

Well I'm staying in Transamerica For the foreseeable future.

My expectations of sessioning during holidays is low.

I had two pernoites this week which was better than expected.

Some of my regulars are hitting me up on WhatsApp so I'll probably bang them this week.

[QUOTE=Fmc858;2515545]Sorry. I quoted the wrong response. My bad.[/QUOTE]

Skin Kira noir diamond has confirmed for pernoite with me tomorrow!

400 reais which is what 80 bucks.

So I'm getting the interracial strap on lesbian playlist ready.

Happy times are here again!

19 year old with super tight holes and shuddering orgasms make the world go around.

[QUOTE=Mcd2293;2515591]So let me first start off by saying that I may be in the minority here. I don't have as much experience nor live here like some of the other fellas but I do visit Brazil about 4 x a year for the past 3 years so I've seen it before and post pandemic.
This is my first year in Brazil during the holidays and third time since the pandemic started. I usually bounce around South America as I can work wherever there is internet.[/QUOTE]Let me first start off by saying, 'work? How do you find the time for a job?' when you say you've visited Brazil does that mean you only visited Rio, and did your bouncing around exclusively in Zona Sul?

OK, things can for whatever reason get slow from time to time in one place. When this happens in Rio, what I do is go up to Nova Iguassu or Niteroi, check into a decent hotel for a couple days, locate the best places, and find the talent. There are girls there that are fresher, the right age and looks, some unfamiliar with foreigners and some who gladly agree to come back and visit and stay with you in your beachfront apt. In Copa. Also, their rates and pricing is what you could call outer-borough. While it's a a definite move this time of year, you do have to consider where the highest covid stats are coming from.

[QUOTE=SameJdc;2513164]As mentioned earlier in this thread, 4 X4 is indeed open again. I had the opportunity to stop by there this evening for my last night in Rio. I've been going to Rio on frequent basis since 2011 always considered 4 x4 as one of my favorites. Below are some details from my experience at 4 x4 tonight (Friday):

- Everything inside looks basically the same as it did before. Modest updates to the bar front and upholstered seating areas. Rooms are still shit as well as locker rooms and bathrooms. Steam rooms were turned off. You have to ask for toiletries now from the bathroom attendant rather than being able to grab it yourself from the sink area like before.

- Lots of new faces at the front desk, behind the bar, wait staff, locker room, and bathroom attendants. Two of the three front desk staff spoke great English.

- Hours: Mon-Fri 1:30 pm to Midnight.

- Pricing: $70 are entrance (includes a drink or two) and is waived if you session before 6 pm (same as before). $270 are (30 min), $390 are (1 HR / cabine), $450 (1 HR / suite).

- Out of all the Tier 1 termas, I would say 4 x 4 gave the least shit about sanitizing areas. I recommend bringing your own hand sanitizer as it is currently not present inside the terma except behind the bar. Monte Carlo was the best at keeping things sanitized (hand sanitizer on every table and mounted in every hallway, staff regularly spraying down tables and chairs, spraying disinfectant in the rooms after each session).

- I arrived at about 5 pm and there were only about 10 girls and around 12 guys (about half in civilian clothes). I was not impressed and didn't recognize any of the girls from previous visits. However, I wanted to wait a little longer to see if more girls would arrive after 6 pm and a few did.

- At one point I counted 18 girls in the bar area. Assuming I missed a few that may have been upstairs getting fucked, I'd say there were probably around 20-22 girls working.

- As usual, it was an interesting mix of girls. However, based on my preferences, I would have only taken around 5 out of the 22 girls upstairs. I thought one I was hot and would come back for her if I had another day to do so. There were 4 girls that I recognized from previous visits and ended up sessioning with one of them. The remaining girls in my opinion looked pretty rough / favela type.

- The atmosphere tonight was rather calm. Not the usual party / festive environment that I am used to experiencing at 4 x 4. Jorginho has been working at T65 now so there is currently no emcee or stage show like before.

- I'm sure 4 x 4 will get better in the coming weeks. The receptionist mentioned to me as I was paying my bill that more girls would be coming back next week. Unfortunately, I won't be around next week to see it but will be back again in February.[/QUOTE]I was the one last month who reported that I ran into the owner during one of my Centro adventures where he let me get a peek in at all the new construction etc. and he told me they were reopening "next week". Yes I was skeptical but this is one of the times I'm glad I was wrong.

Thanks for the report.

Cheers!

Does anyone have a recent or somewhat recent account of Centaurus? Never been to Rio so have no idea what to expect. English ok? Safe at night? Do they have a reliable safe to keep cash? Do you wear a robe or normal clothes wandering around? Wish there was more to learn about these places.

I picked up the above asset at Central.

I banged her anally.

She kind of screamed, cried, and begged me to cum, which mercifully, I did.

I banged her again, and creampied her. I was like shooting wads up into Rihanna.

She rolled various tobacco products and watched Netflix interspersed with Skin Diamond machine fucking Asphixia Noir on [URL]Kink.com[/URL].

We talked like lovers -- or more precisely, amigas coloridas / amigos coloridas do.

I played some Rihana four five seconds from wilding.

She asked me not to take nekid pictures of her.

So I complied, even though I had her on a dog leash, bound hands and foot with boxing wraps.

Centaurus. Please. PM me and I will send you a number. It's perfectly safe.

Go to the dark side for the 19 year old Rihanna's.

Hahahahahahahahahahar.

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2516160]Does anyone have a recent or somewhat recent account of Centaurus? [/QUOTE]I visited Centaurus last month, it was my first time there since 2009. I mainly visited out of curiosity and to show a new monger around since he was agnostic for it was his first trip. The talent was decent but the prices were still about as high as I remembered ($R600+). One difference was they no longer make you pay up front like years ago and oh, there was no girl waiting in the locker room to follow you around upon entrance. It was really hit or miss. We both left without sessioning.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2515805]Let me first start off by saying, 'work? How do you find the time for a job?' when you say you've visited Brazil does that mean you only visited Rio, and did your bouncing around exclusively in Zona Sul?

OK, things can for whatever reason get slow from time to time in one place. When this happens in Rio, what I do is go up to Nova Iguassu or Niteroi, check into a decent hotel for a couple days, locate the best places, and find the talent. There are girls there that are fresher, the right age and looks, some unfamiliar with foreigners and some who gladly agree to come back and visit and stay with you in your beachfront apt. In Copa. Also, their rates and pricing is what you could call outer-borough. While it's a a definite move this time of year, you do have to consider where the highest covid stats are coming from.[/QUOTE]I work remotely (aren't we all in this pandemic?) so wherever there's internet, I can work as I see fit. I've never not had a job. Just have to work a bit later as I abide by US hours. So on this particular trip I'm staying in just Rio + SP. I've been to other parts of Brazil on my other trips though.

I wouldn't know where to start to learn for girls in a smaller area up north. Maybe I'll give that a try one of these days but I don't want to go window shopping around on PA / FB as I am super skeptical of those girls. I'm not looking for a budget girl, but rather a quality girl. When you say up north, are there any establishments that you can just pop into?

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2516160]Does anyone have a recent or somewhat recent account of Centaurus? Never been to Rio so have no idea what to expect. English ok? Safe at night? Do they have a reliable safe to keep cash? Do you wear a robe or normal clothes wandering around? Wish there was more to learn about these places.[/QUOTE]Generally, termas have lockers with keys. I use credit cards. Usually an unidentifiable business shows up your credit card statement. I can see some wanting to use cash. Your money and belongings will be safe. There is typically an attendant in the locker room. I would only bring enough cash for what you need though. 1500 BRL should cover almost everything unless you have plans for multiple sessions and threesomes.

Centaurus is in the Ipanema neighborhood. This is one of the safer areas in Rio. Having said that, always keep your wits about you especially at night.

As far as robes, I don't know Centaurus' current policy. They are quite typical for termas. Don't overthink things. Just go and enjoy yourself. They will take care of you.

Thanks for the info! Do you have a favorite one? Best girls one? Most relaxed one?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2516369]Generally, termas have lockers with keys. I use credit cards. Usually an unidentifiable business shows up your credit card statement. I can see some wanting to use cash. Your money and belongings will be safe. There is typically an attendant in the locker room. I would only bring enough cash for what you need though. 1500 BRL should cover almost everything unless you have plans for multiple sessions and threesomes.

Centaurus is in the Ipanema neighborhood. This is one of the safer areas in Rio. Having said that, always keep your wits about you especially at night.

As far as robes, I don't know Centaurus' current policy. They are quite typical for termas. Don't overthink things. Just go and enjoy yourself. They will take care of you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mcd2293;2516362]I work remotely (aren't we all in this pandemic?) so wherever there's internet, I can work as I see fit. I've never not had a job. Just have to work a bit later as I abide by US hours. So on this particular trip I'm staying in just Rio + SP. I've been to other parts of Brazil on my other trips though.

I wouldn't know where to start to learn for girls in a smaller area up north. Maybe I'll give that a try one of these days but I don't want to go window shopping around on PA / FB as I am super skeptical of those girls. I'm not looking for a budget girl, but rather a quality girl. When you say up north, are there any establishments that you can just pop into?[/QUOTE]There is no reason to venture up north if it's your first time in Rio. What for? Stay in Copacabana or Ipanema, venture to Barra the Tijuca and Centro when you get bored, and you'll have your hands full.

I been to Colombia and DR and so I'm no newbie when it comes to this. I had my fair share of international pussy. But I'm a newbie when it comes to Brazil in general but specifically Rio. I always wanted to go to Rio / Brazil because many people treat it as the "mecca" out of the trinity of DR / Colombia / Brazil. But next year I think I may finally give Rio a go sometime during the summer. What I have heard about Rio no lie makes it seem better than not only Sosua but Colombia especially when it comes to the women. Since this is a mongering site, my questions will be mostly be towards the chicas. But a side not, I will have some people on ground (I don't speak Portuguese but they are bilingual) but there will be times when I'm by myself. Anyways.

1. Is it really true that the women are MORE freakier than Dominicans / Colombians? And that they really enjoy sex? Because I heard this a lot LOL. Is it an exaggeration?

2. What is the average price when doing P4P?

3. I know Rio is a huge city (bigger than NYC), I know about Copacabana and the brothels but where else can I met chicas? Is there any specific nightclubs?

4. Like I said I will have people on ground for me however still how much of a MUST is knowing Portuguese?

5. Where specifically in Copacabana should I stay? Or should I stay in Ipanema? The latter which is more affluent and cleaner.

6. Are websites like photoacompanhantes worth it? I heard mixed things about it. Good and bad, but if its not worth it are there better alternatives?

7. Would you rank Rio above or below DR / Colombia?

That's all for now. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Big Zozo Intl;2516620]I been to Colombia and DR and so I'm no newbie when it comes to this. I had my fair share of international pussy. But I'm a newbie when it comes to Brazil in general but specifically Rio. I always wanted to go to Rio / Brazil because many people treat it as the "mecca" out of the trinity of DR / Colombia / Brazil. But next year I think I may finally give Rio a go sometime during the summer. What I have heard about Rio no lie makes it seem better than not only Sosua but Colombia especially when it comes to the women. Since this is a mongering site, my questions will be mostly be towards the chicas. But a side not, I will have some people on ground (I don't speak Portuguese but they are bilingual) but there will be times when I'm by myself. Anyways.

1. Is it really true that the women are MORE freakier than Dominicans / Colombians? And that they really enjoy sex? Because I heard this a lot LOL. Is it an exaggeration?

2. What is the average price when doing P4P?

3. I know Rio is a huge city (bigger than NYC), I know about Copacabana and the brothels but where else can I met chicas? Is there any specific nightclubs?

4. Like I said I will have people on ground for me however still how much of a MUST is knowing Portuguese?

5. Where specifically in Copacabana should I stay? Or should I stay in Ipanema? The latter which is more affluent and cleaner.

6. Are websites like photoacompanhantes worth it? I heard mixed things about it. Good and bad, but if its not worth it are there better alternatives?

7. Would you rank Rio above or below DR / Colombia?

That's all for now. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
1. Yes, golden shower is normal procedure. No, they hate sex.
2. R$87,24.
3. Jacarezinho. Baile funk no Complexo do Chapadão.
4. If you speak out really loud they will understand English.
5. Av. Prado Júnior 16A.
6. No. Yes.
7. Above.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2516702]1. Yes, golden shower is normal procedure. No, they hate sex.
2. R$87,24.
3. Jacarezinho. Baile funk no Complexo do Chapado.
4. If you speak out really loud they will understand English.
5. Av. Prado Jnior 16A.
6. No. Yes.
7. Above.[/QUOTE]I was waiting for him to ask where he should change money, meet girls who speak English and what clubs to go to at night!

[QUOTE=BigZozoIntl;2516620]I been to Colombia and DR and so I'm no newbie when it comes to this. I had my fair share of international pussy. But I'm a newbie when it comes to Brazil in general but specifically Rio. I always wanted to go to Rio / Brazil because many people treat it as the "mecca" out of the trinity of DR / Colombia / Brazil. But next year I think I may finally give Rio a go sometime during the summer. What I have heard about Rio no lie makes it seem better than not only Sosua but Colombia especially when it comes to the women. Since this is a mongering site, my questions will be mostly be towards the chicas. But a side not, I will have some people on ground (I don't speak Portuguese but they are bilingual) but there will be times when I'm by myself. Anyways.

1. Is it really true that the women are MORE freakier than Dominicans / Colombians? And that they really enjoy sex? Because I heard this a lot LOL. Is it an exaggeration?

2. What is the average price when doing P4P?

3. I know Rio is a huge city (bigger than NYC), I know about Copacabana and the brothels but where else can I met chicas? Is there any specific nightclubs?.[/QUOTE]It's usually considered bad form to just pop on a thread for the first time and ask all the same questions every new guy wants to know. If you read a couple months back here, most of your questions are not only answered you will also get some different insights from various travelers.

I will say one thing about Brazilian working girls. They are extremely passionate and fun. For the most part, they DFK like no other working girls. Many of them offer anal sex sometimes as part of the deal and sometimes for extra money. If you tell the Brazilian girls what you want, you will likely find girls who will provide it.

The DR?! Seriously?? It's at the bottom of my list. Those lame DR ladies can't hold a candle to the Women in Rio, (or SP.) Went once, that was enough. If, BIG IF, I would return, I'd bring sand to that Beach. (They're beautiful, BTW.).

[QUOTE=Sperto;2516702]1. Yes, golden shower is normal procedure. No, they hate sex.
2. R$87,24.
3. Jacarezinho. Baile funk no Complexo do Chapado.
4. If you speak out really loud they will understand English.
5. Av. Prado Jnior 16A.
6. No. Yes.
7. Above.[/QUOTE]Noted.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2516721]I was waiting for him to ask where he should change money, meet girls who speak English and what clubs to go to at night![/QUOTE]I asked what nightclubs there are to meet the women.

As Sr Sperto's funny post suggests, RTFF.

And Bubba Boy Guide, which needs to be updated to include that Metro Jardim Oceanico is in Barra, and that is where you should stay, try the hotels near that metro if you wish (like the ever popular Ibis), or my suggestion, Transamerica, av gastao senges 395.

The best Terma is Paris cafe.

30 reais cover, best selection (the real Portuguese girl was the hottest girl I have seen this trip).

Compared to Solarium at 120 reais cover (maybe hottest girls after Paris, but at 4 x the cost -- no way they are 400% better).

It may have been true before Metro Jardim Oceanico that Barra was too far, but now there is no excuse.

And with exchange rates this good the uber costs are negligible.

Invest in your own health. Drink a lot of Agua de coco.

Our monger buddy who died was asthmatic, which should have ruled out his traveling in this covid era, but even so, he stayed out all night, and could have been in better shape. We owe it to our friends and ourselves to keep up our own health.

To that end, I've benefitted from self tests suggested on this board, and thanks for those health tips.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2516571]There is no reason to venture up north if it's your first time in Rio. What for? Stay in Copacabana or Ipanema, venture to Barra the Tijuca and Centro when you get bored, and you'll have your hands full.[/QUOTE]

Nothing special to report, prices are up compared to October on my last trip. Centaurus raised their prices. The quality has gone down. Sessioned the hottest Negra there. Spent 900 or so total, entry was 160, program was 650, and 4 drinks were 160. My threesome and drinks all night was less than 1200 last trip. I am staying on av atlantica in an airbnb. It is a decent area not as crowded as copa which I like during a pandemic. Sessioned a few off photoacomphantes. Nothing special but worth the money. Messaged a girl from niteroi, she was a total *****. She wouldn't come here and when I asked when I should come there she told me she doesn't do phone sex and to put a picture on my whatsapp. LOL. Needless to say I won't be making that trip regardless of how hot and cheap it is. 300 reais an hour for a smoking spinner. Haven't made it to monte carlo or Casablanca yet. Its day 3 of my trip. I contacted a blonde that has been advertising on private55 and barravips off and on. Her body is ok not great but she was on my list so I messaged her. She quoted 1000 reais an hour. 1500 for two. She doesn't show her face in ads so I asked for her to send some. She sent one. She had to have been the ugliest girls I have seen advertise on any Brazilian escort site. Paula Lambertini. After I didn't respond for an hour she asked for my picture. I would post the pic but she deleted it from whatsapp before I could screenshot it. I still haven't responded as I have nothing nice to say. Got two non pros numbers so far. Have yet to seal the deal with either so far but I have time. Went to a terapista just to see what that was about. Picked a smoking hot 19 year old. Nice bees and pretty face. 450 for an hour of nuru. Which is my favorite massage. On the flip she starts a H. E. I start rubbing her ass and you would thought I had covid on my hands as fast as she jumped away. I almost cut the session short but decided to make her work for her money. So I got a 35 minute hand job. It took everything I had to hold back but her frustration was worth it. Before everyone bitches at me. I did it for the experience I know there are choices out there and what they cost. Just wanted to see what it was all about. I haven't tipped any girls because none have gone above and beyond and I haven't done any pernoites yet so am I good on my nambla donation or should I buy some bitcoin to get my donation ready? Is that a percentage or a flat rate? 🤣.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2516800]I contacted a blonde that has been advertising on private55 and barravips off and on. Her body is ok not great but she was on my list so I messaged her. She quoted 1000 reais an hour. 1500 for two. She doesn't show her face in ads so I asked for her to send some. She sent one. She had to have been the ugliest girls I have seen advertise on any Brazilian escort site.[/QUOTE]LOL. LOL. LOL.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2516800]Before everyone bitches at me. I did it for the experience I know there are choices out there and what they cost. Just wanted to see what it was all about. [/QUOTE]Batch about what? That was a good ass report! My only question is where are you saying? You said it was Av Atlantica but not Copacabana. Ipanema? Leme?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2516805]LOL. LOL. LOL.

Batch about what? That was a good ass report! My only question is where are you saying? You said it was Av Atlantica but not Copacabana. Ipanema? Leme?[/QUOTE]I am staying in Leme. I like to stay on the beach and all the airbnbs that were available in Ipanema were a block from the beach.

Gents,

I will be glad to head to VM with fellow ISG members.

PM me your contact.

Look I am just going to kind of put this out as a general note:

Some mongers, like someone I shall not mention asked for numbers of girls. I hate hanging out with guys who want me to give my girls numbers out. Especially if those guys are not pulling quality girls themselves.

Especially when those other mongers are going to pay more and mess up my economics. I mean, fucking a 19 year old Rihanna look alike for 80 dollars. Holy shit, all my catholic school boy fantasies came true. Angel is a centerfold. (see lyrics form my youth, below).

Another monger agreed, writing.

I share that. Same thing on Thai boards. People don't want to put in any of the work. Ans have no respect for relationship management yet want something for free.

Same experience in Thailand. Those girls get big heads so fast because some fool paid 200 for what was an 80 value.

Appropo of the literature of our profession or at least hobby, there is a book, "fim" by torres or more generally some of hemingway's stuff.

Fim is about 5 mongers or "macho's " from 1969 to the present. It's about how to live life as a dude in Rio's sex life, and offers 5 choices about how to live your life. Read it and pick your choice. One sure way to alienate a fellow monger is to actively hit on that dude's girl, when in the mini relationship. Not that I have always obeyed this commandment, but to my credit, I bring some meat to the table. I mean one time when a certain ISG monger was falling in love with his new flame at 502 (who I later pernoited at will) I was pernoiting a earlier conquest from club red light, but then, what goes around comes around.

OK, so, if you are going to come to VM on a patrol, here are the ground rules.

First forget about Covid safety. I mean, if you are fucking a chick in covid, you are sharing germs.

Second and most importantly, don't take pictures. That will get security -- and they have it -- pulled on you.

For the rest of my security notes RTFF. If there is trouble, then call an uber, and keep sight of each other, and get out.

That said, VM is a great source of the best talent, especially mulatas, negras, and morenas.

So too are the "darkside" (North of Av Presidente Vargas, in Centro) termas including the trash termas. If you are going to 4 x 4, you are less than 300 meters from the darkside termas. Again, RTFF, and Read Bubba Boy's Guide.

Does she walk? Does she talk?

Does she come complete?

My homeroom homeroom angel.

Always pulled me from my seat.

She was pure like snowflakes.

No one could ever stain.

The memory of my angel.

Could never cause me pain.

Years go by I'm lookin' through a girly magazine.

And there's my homeroom angel on the pages in-between.

My blood runs cold.

My memory has just been sold.

My angel is the centerfold.

Angel is the centerfold.

My blood runs cold.

My memory has just been sold.

Angel is the centerfold.

Slipped me notes under the desk.

While I was thinkin' about her dress.

I was shy I turned away.

Before she caught my eye.

I was shakin' in my shoes.

Whenever she flashed those baby-blues.

Something had a hold on me.

When angel passed close by.

Those soft and fuzzy sweaters.

Too magical to touch.

To.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2516800]Went to a terapista just to see what that was about. Picked a smoking hot 19 year old. Nice bees and pretty face. 450 for an hour of nuru. Which is my favorite massage. On the flip she starts a H. E. I start rubbing her ass and you would thought I had covid on my hands as fast as she jumped away. I almost cut the session short but decided to make her work for her money. So I got a 35 minute hand job. It took everything I had to hold back but her frustration was worth it. Before everyone bitches at me. I did it for the experience I know there are choices out there and what they cost. Just wanted to see what it was all about. I haven't tipped any girls because none have gone above and beyond and I haven't done any pernoites yet so am I good on my nambla donation or should I buy some bitcoin to get my donation ready? Is that a percentage or a flat rate? 🤣.[/QUOTE]Other than her not letting you touch her ass. Where does she think she is, USA?

Anyhoo, I love massages too, even legit ones, kkkk. If anything, I've always felt that a good massage that takes a lot of hard work should cost more than a simple fuck and not the other way around. A really good tantric from someone who knows what she's doing, can land you on the moon. Way more memorable than your average run of the mill sex, IMHO.

Thank you for the report.

I am behind in getting my reports done, but I can answer all this quick as I just enjoyed 3 nights at centarus in November as a newbie to Rio and SP. I also hit Monte Carlo and Solarium.

As a first timer it was my favorite place in Rio, especially since I was staying in Copa so it was really easy to access. As mentioned in another report it's at the end of copa where it meets ipanema and neighborhood is pretty good thought like anyplace make sure to have your head up. 1 night I strolled and sipped drinks on the way down, 2nd night road a lime scooter as close as I could (you have to park relatively close to the beach) and walked the rest of the way and night 3 took an uber, was staying at JW marriott for reference.

English was mixed, so using translate on a phone was essential sometimes. Would just type and hand it back and forth and worked great. You get a locker and all the money stays in there, entrance fee includes 2 drinks, seemed more than safe like that. I can't quite recall exactly but there was a surcharge for using a card so I paid cash. I am big points person so the math had to be more than 3% for the card is all I can absolutely confirm. I do recall at solarium if you paid entrance in cash up front you got a free drink. Monte Carlo was like a 10% premium. Basically if you have good access to cash then I think that is the way to go. I used my schwab account with the ATMs so I paid no fees. Side note some places it's mixed like scandello in SP, no surcharge for card on entrance or room, but 6% if you use it to pay the girl so I would mix the card and cash.

Here is a tidbit I hadn't read anywhere, all the termas you get a robe, and being only experienced in FKKs and macau saunas I took it all off, but seems that generally guys keep their boxers on which I finally started to do on night 3, haha. But anyway the girls enjoyed me free balling it so I never even put it together until my last night there anyway.

Girl selection was good and changed nightly, some were repeats every night, some where there on night 1 gone on 2 back on 3. First night was a Monday and slimmest selection (all termas I am aware of are closed on Sunday), then I think I was there teusday, and Thursday and selection increased on each of those days. I would say about a dozen on Monday as a base line.

Process for centarus. Pay entry and designate what you want to drink and get 2 tickets. Change right there on first floor and if you want there is hot tub and showers there. Proceed up to lounge on 2nd floor where you get your drinks and the girls are. I was either the only or 1 of 2 customers there so definitely the zebra to the lions when I walked in. You can choose a girl to converse with at this point or let mamasan know you want some time to relax (this was my experience given the lack of customers I expect different when there are many people around). Then if and when ready tell the girl you like you want to go upstairs and choose 40/60 minutes. This is where it diverged on different nights, night 1 and 3 went downstairs to get the girls money and pay her, night 2 we went after the session or maybe just at checkout can't recall exactly.

One point to note that is she goes to refresh herself before the session but you don't shower and there wasn't one in the room so you would want to shower either right before going there, once you get there, or let her know you are going to rinse then you can go upstairs. This was the same at solarium. Monte Carlo had small shower in the room but neither of us used it until after.

Think that pretty much covers it, basic operation was same at solarium and monte carlo.

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2516160]Does anyone have a recent or somewhat recent account of Centaurus? Never been to Rio so have no idea what to expect. English ok? Safe at night? Do they have a reliable safe to keep cash? Do you wear a robe or normal clothes wandering around? Wish there was more to learn about these places.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;2516910]I do recall at solarium if you paid entrance in cash up front you got a free drink. Monte Carlo was like a 10% premium. Basically if you have good access to cash then I think that is the way to go. I used my schwab account with the ATMs so I paid no fees. Side note some places it's mixed like scandello in SP, no surcharge for card on entrance or room, but 6% if you use it to pay the girl so I would mix the card and cash.[/QUOTE]I went to Monte Carlo in November. You pay everything at the end. You can pay the girls fee in cash, and everything else on your credit card if you want. They didn't charge me a premium on my card when I did that.

Thanks for the report.

Callsign Ana foxxx - 300 pernoite.

Callsign Lilly of the west. Balllicker.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2516702].....4. If you speak out really loud they will understand English........[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rl9Cxc7uZA[/URL]

Just got off WhatsApp with a friend from Brazil.

She said the Metro will be closed tonight at 7:00 to keep the people from the North Zone out of Copacabana.

No fireworks, no music, no beach parties.

Just thought I would share something that surprised me. When I got here 4 days ago the cambio at the airport was exchanging for 4. 87. The cambio closest to me was at 5. 05 next day. Just went to ATM. Santander bank ATM was at 5. 11. Didn't expect that. Also this 7 pm curfew tonight sucks. Happy new year everyone!

Hello friends,

I arrive Sunday morning and have a few questions (I read the last 50 pages which is no small task).

I won't have a SIM card (so no Uber for me), do we dare to go for a Sunday walk in the center?

What do you think of motels? I spotted one in the center (Lapa) and it has the advantage of being close to Les Prives.

The other question is how to meet girls on a Sunday (not online)? MAB'S would be alive? I would love to try Vila Mimosa but it might not be safe for someone who does not know the city.

Finally, I would have loved to join someone (Vagabundo?) But my coinbase is blocked for review and I cannot pay my membership to send PMs (and download some of the interesting documents).

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2517105]Just thought I would share something that surprised me. When I got here 4 days ago the cambio at the airport was exchanging for 4. 87. The cambio closest to me was at 5. 05 next day. Just went to ATM. Santander bank ATM was at 5. 11.[/QUOTE]What surprised you about that? The airport is always going to give you the worst rate unless you go to the baggage dudes with the uniforms on. You can even bargain with them for a better rate. The ATM is always going to give you the best rate. XE is showing 5.18 right now. With a Schwab card I am sure you could get a rate even closer to that from the ATM.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2517105]Just thought I would share something that surprised me. When I got here 4 days ago the cambio at the airport was exchanging for 4. 87. The cambio closest to me was at 5. 05 next day. Just went to ATM. Santander bank ATM was at 5. 11. Didn't expect that. Also this 7 pm curfew tonight sucks. Happy new year everyone![/QUOTE]I got the best rate from Bradesco ATMs. Also I could take out 2 k daily no problems (I think the limit is a bit higher). No fees either.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2516800]Nothing special to report, prices are up compared to October on my last trip. Centaurus raised their prices. The quality has gone down. Sessioned the hottest Negra there. Spent 900 or so total, entry was 160, program was 650, and 4 drinks were 160. My threesome and drinks all night was less than 1200 last trip. I am staying on av atlantica in an airbnb. It is a decent area not as crowded as copa which I like during a pandemic. Sessioned a few off photoacomphantes. Nothing special but worth the money. Messaged a girl from niteroi, she was a total *****. She wouldn't come here and when I asked when I should come there she told me she doesn't do phone sex and to put a picture on my whatsapp. LOL. Needless to say I won't be making that trip regardless of how hot and cheap it is. 300 reais an hour for a smoking spinner. Haven't made it to monte carlo or Casablanca yet. Its day 3 of my trip. I contacted a blonde that has been advertising on private55 and barravips off and on. Her body is ok not great but she was on my list so I messaged her. She quoted 1000 reais an hour. 1500 for two. She doesn't show her face in ads so I asked for her to send some. She sent one. She had to have been the ugliest girls I have seen advertise on any Brazilian escort site. Paula Lambertini. After I didn't respond for an hour she asked for my picture. I would post the pic but she deleted it from whatsapp before I could screenshot it. I still haven't responded as I have nothing nice to say. Got two non pros numbers so far. Have yet to seal the deal with either so far but I have time. Went to a terapista just to see what that was about. Picked a smoking hot 19 year old. Nice bees and pretty face. 450 for an hour of nuru. Which is my favorite massage. On the flip she starts a H. E. I start rubbing her ass and you would thought I had covid on my hands as fast as she jumped away..[/QUOTE]What is the name of the Nuru Massage place you went to?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2516943]

Callsign Lilly of the west. Balllicker.[/QUOTE]She has the scars to prove she's a balllicker just look at the calluses or scabs on her knees, what a girl.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2517119]What surprised you about that? The airport is always going to give you the worst rate unless you go to the baggage dudes with the uniforms on. You can even bargain with them for a better rate. The ATM is always going to give you the best rate. XE is showing 5.18 right now. With a Schwab card I am sure you could get a rate even closer to that from the ATM.[/QUOTE]In Asia money changers usually have better rates than ATM. I was able to get 3000 from Santander. I used two cards. The classiest bank in the world. The ones in the front of Walmart and my schwab card. Got paid today so pulled some extra money for the group trip to vm. Drinks and uber on me. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2517126]What is the name of the Nuru Massage place you went to?[/QUOTE]It was at copa 583. On the 5th floor I think. There was a sign down stairs and I saw the ad and pics on the local forum. I went with Thaliita. No lineup they just showed pics from web and chose that way. I think a tantric massage was 250. Probably go somewhere in barra and get one. I do enjoy a nice massage. He or not. I might add that I went to a popular rub and tug in ft Lauderdale area during my layover in Florida. It was $70 for hour massage and $120 for FS. Going rate those fools are paying.

First Chinese chick for me and probably last, not worth the price of admission. Girl was really hot and tight but its just too much money. Thanks have fun.

[QUOTE=Calebasse;2517106]

I won't have a SIM card (so no Uber for me), do we dare to go for a Sunday walk in the center.[/QUOTE]Depending on your carrier it isn't that expensive for international to get you through until you get a card. I have att it is $10 a day. I saw cards at saara market for 6. 50 reais. It was cool to see too. On a non mongering note. Lots of interesting people watching. I wouldn't stick around into the evening though.

Was not Copa 583. They are in the SL floor of the building, which if you go up the stairs, they are on the first floor to your right. In addition you pay right now BR130 for a full one hour session anyway you want it.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2517159]It was at copa 583. On the 5th floor I think. There was a sign down stairs and I saw the ad and pics on the local forum. I went with Thaliita. No lineup they just showed pics from web and chose that way. I think a tantric massage was 250. Probably go somewhere in barra and get one. I do enjoy a nice massage. He or not. I might add that I went to a popular rub and tug in ft Lauderdale area during my layover in Florida. It was $70 for hour massage and $120 for FS. Going rate those fools are paying.

First Chinese chick for me and probably last, not worth the price of admission. Girl was really hot and tight but its just too much money. Thanks have fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2517160]Depending on your carrier it isn't that expensive for international to get you through until you get a card. I have att it is $10 a day. I saw cards at saara market for 6. 50 reais. It was cool to see too. On a non mongering note. Lots of interesting people watching. I wouldn't stick around into the evening though.[/QUOTE]If you're using a VPN you should be able to use your fone in Brasil just as you would in your home country.

Hi,

Do you have any studio Airbnb addresses where I can bring girls?

A claro sim can be bought at a mall, like Gavea Shopping for 100 reais for 50 gb per month.

I've used this to supplement the bad internet at Transamerica.

So, today, LLT came over to checkpoint 1, ie, av gastao senges 395, where I chilled for the superspreader holiday event.

We ubered to Vila Mimosa, checkpoint 2. Nothing was happening. I got a number of a negra, but it was not a target worthy of a warshot.

We ubered to checkpoint 3, 4 x 4, IE, Buenos Aires 44, and sadly, our temple of the procession of the Lady of the fleshy clit was closed. We prayed and changed uber destination to checkpoint 1.

Along the ride we changed destination to checkpoint 4, IE, Olegario Maciel in Barra, which was hopping. Like the place to be. After some foot patrols, we settled in for a meal at Na Brasa Colombia, which is at the intersection of Olegario Maciel and the Atlantic Ocean. For those challenged by map reading, you don't deserve to get laid anyway. As we say, I can fix many things, I can't fix stupid. There we dined like Brazilians. I almost leaned over and got a number from a juicy morena target whose bunda beckoned, but she was with her mother and aunt, and we were not blues brothers enough to ask, "how much for the little girls" while on a "mission from god" (small G). We contemplated trying to sit down with a few juicy bundas but my wingman demurred, "they probably will ask 1000 reais each".

Local intel sources stated a real boate is on the atlantic, to the East. That boate on further patrolling is "Perola Negra" which is a house at _ 400. (forgot the name of the street that is avenida atlantica in Barra).

Then we ubered over to checkpoint 5, IE, Praia dos amadores. I got two negra numbers there. One -- the first -- was a mother with her little kid. My wingman, being ruthless, said, "get her number" like that scene from animal house, the devil on the shoulder saying "fuck her" . She has a very nice little negra bundinha (which I prefer to a bundao). Her friend has big negra seios. Numbers were gained. We then patrolled around praia do amadores. This is a good spot, and within an easy stroll of Ibis.

Then we ubered back to Transamerica, checkpoint 1. Then we ubered to Checkpoint 6, a boate indicated on google maps by the name of panteras dos recreio. It is in a vila mimosa ish area just inland from Posto 12. Wingman and I entered the apartment building and went to the room (109) and there was no answer. There was a room on the 4th floor with the usual colors of a boate visible from the street. Wingman was not in favor of going up to the 5th floor, so I agreed to head back to the street, and patrol to Posto 12. The hopping bar there is the package store / ice (gelo) store on the corner. We spoke to some obvious garota de programas on the street, but my wingman not wanting to ask for numbers from certain targets, we refrained, then ubered back to.

Checkpoint 7, paris cafe, which was closed, so we ubered to.

Checkpoint 4, where we foot patrolled to perola negra boate, which was also closed. From there I ubered back to checkpoint 1, and wingman ubered to Copacabana.

As expected during the holidays, most mongering sites are closed. Which is just as well. Fucking is just work. Have some sympathy, have some taste.

Haha.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2517404]If you're using a VPN you should be able to use your fone in Brasil just as you would in your home country.[/QUOTE]

There are two schools of thought on what to do if you are a man in a rich country during a pandemic.

The first, let's say, majority school of thought is that you should stay in your house, your home country, indeed, maybe even sit in the corner in your room you bad boy (imagine the ultimate nanny state scolding you), perhaps listen to pink Floyd's music while the walls are built around your soul.

The second, let's call it the vagabond's minority, is that you should go to a place where the life saving personal attention of a skilled sperm donor clinic nurse is available at a price that a rich world resident can afford to milk his gonads enough to not only be alive, but happy.

Let's just say, at the critical juncture, vagabundo chose and that as a poet once said has made all the difference.

If you search around you can find [URL]economist.com[/URL] writing about this dilemma for certain Swiss residents appropo Thailand. But Brazil has even better nursing for ones nuts than Thailand.

I've had some requests for her number.

In keeping with my writing style of adventure travel / hemingway (for whom the bell tolls)/ bond (007, the new one, is a negra negra negra, and IMHO a dupla with money penny is clearly required), here are some clues.

1. you can best impress her with.

A) sessioning with her in a love motel near Metro Pavuna.

B) a 25 cm phallus (hint, you can buy one in any good love motel).

C) a vibrator (hint, you can buy one in any sex shop, or better, a really good one in decathlon, which you should use on her clit while she is tied up in boxing wraps which hurt less than hand cuffs while she is ball gagged, which is supplied free of charge for mongers who come prepared, and can do A).

D) you can meet her on the 457 bus line between copa and Norte Shopping, and you should session with her first at Motel Cartago or Megara near Norte Shopping.

E) a pure gold star of David necklace that is really big.

F) a star of David velcro patch on your genuine Rio Fire Department Molle bag while wearing your Grupo Maritime Red Boonie Cover.

G) money, lots of it, because the first thing out of her mouth when you get her back to your room in Transamerica is in the rich world you can make a lot more money, and the second thing is don't cum in my pussy, and the third thing is cum in my ass to avoid getting my sweet young 19 year old pussy which has never born a child preggers.

To which you respond.

A) take it up your ass you money guzzling working girl.

B) gladly, take my seed like a porn star.

C) Go ahead and try talking with that red gag in your mouth.

D) my angel is a centerfold because you have a j geil's play list on your fucking huge speakers bought at Walmart and couriered into Brazil.

E) All of the above because she is tied up like a hog and you are without mercy ploughing her nether holes like a farmer breeding a chattel.

F) that is so fucking in appropriate it hurts while I laugh out loud (LOL) . Who else would have thought that fucking to J Geils audio and watching Ana Foxxx porn could be so much fun.

G) OK, my fellow analysts, where on the route of the 457 from Copacabana to Zona Norte can one select from dozens of negra bundinhas?

Anyone?

I heard the malls are also a good spot in mongering. Is that true?

[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

Half or more of Brazilians were conceived in its sex motels.

A man with cash could stay in Brazil or at least Rio indefinitely with just the above website as reference.

Not only that he could live a better life than he would otherwise life in any rich world puritanical country.

If you have not gotten laid in the above sex motels, then do.

In such sex starved times as holidays, you, young Jedi mongers must get laid in sex motels. Usually in the zona norte. Where most of our beloved working girls in zona sul live.

Concise and Informative. Keep up the good work in future postings.

Can anyone help clear up this one bit of vagueness regarding paying for services rendered / checkout

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;2516910]This is where it diverged on different nights, night 1 and 3 went downstairs to get the girls money and pay her, night 2 we went after the session or maybe just at checkout can't recall exactly.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;2516910]I am behind in getting my reports done, but I can answer all this quick as I just enjoyed 3 nights at centarus in November as a newbie to Rio and SP. I also hit Monte Carlo and Solarium.

As a first timer it was my favorite place in Rio, especially since I was staying in Copa so it was really easy to access. As mentioned in another report it's at the end of copa where it meets ipanema and neighborhood is pretty good thought like anyplace make sure to have your head up. 1 night I strolled and sipped drinks on the way down, 2nd night road a lime scooter as close as I could (you have to park relatively close to the beach) and walked the rest of the way and night 3 took an uber, was staying at JW marriott for reference.

English was mixed, so using translate on a phone was essential sometimes. Would just type and hand it back and forth and worked great. You get a locker and all the money stays in there, entrance fee includes 2 drinks, seemed more than safe like that. I can't quite recall exactly but there was a surcharge for using a card so I paid cash. I am big points person so the math had to be more than 3% for the card is all I can absolutely confirm. I do recall at solarium if you paid entrance in cash up front you got a free drink. Monte Carlo was like a 10% premium. Basically if you have good access to cash then I think that is the way to go. I used my schwab account with the ATMs so I paid no fees. Side note some places it's mixed like scandello in SP, no surcharge for card on entrance or room, but 6% if you use it to pay the girl so I would mix the card and cash.

Here is a tidbit I hadn't read anywhere, all the termas you get a robe, and being only experienced in FKKs and macau saunas I took it all off, but seems that generally guys keep their boxers on which I finally started to do on night 3, haha. But anyway the girls enjoyed me free balling it so I never even put it together until my last night there anyway.

Girl selection was good and changed nightly, some were repeats every night, some where there on night 1 gone on 2 back on 3. First night was a Monday and slimmest selection (all termas I am aware of are closed on Sunday), then I think I was there teusday, and Thursday and selection increased on each of those days. I would say about a dozen on Monday as a base line.

Process for centarus. Pay entry and designate what you want to drink and get 2 tickets. Change right there on first floor and if you want there is hot tub and showers there. Proceed up to lounge on 2nd floor where you get your drinks and the girls are. I was either the only or 1 of 2 customers there so definitely the zebra to the lions when I walked in. You can choose a girl to converse with at this point or let mamasan know you want some time to relax (this was my experience given the lack of customers I expect different when there are many people around). Then if and when ready tell the girl you like you want to go upstairs and choose 40/60 minutes. This is where it diverged on different nights, night 1 and 3 went downstairs to get the girls money and pay her, night 2 we went after the session or maybe just at checkout can't recall exactly.

One point to note that is she goes to refresh herself before the session but you don't shower and there wasn't one in the room so you would want to shower either right before going there, once you get there, or let her know you are going to rinse then you can go upstairs. This was the same at solarium. Monte Carlo had small shower in the room but neither of us used it until after.

Think that pretty much covers it, basic operation was same at solarium and monte carlo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2517167]Was not Copa 583. They are in the SL floor of the building, which if you go up the stairs, they are on the first floor to your right. In addition you pay right now BR130 for a full one hour session anyway you want it.[/QUOTE]It was av nosso rosso 583 copacabana or whatever its called. Same entrance different sala. Thanks for clearing that up. Heading to copa 583 as we speak. It is sala 204 BTW. For those wondering touts hand out cards in peak hours as you walk by. Also want to clarify for those not in the know. Massagem and terapistas are two different things. Massagem is brothel, terapistas are actual massage clinics more like a rub and tug in usa. You can get a massage at massagem but it will not be the same level as terapistas.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2517568]Concise and Informative. Keep up the good work in future postings.

Can anyone help clear up this one bit of vagueness regarding paying for services rendered / checkout

.[/QUOTE]The way centaurus works is you pay an entrance fee when you arrive. They give you key to locker. I take cash for the discount. They have shower, bathroom and locker room on first floor. Bar on 2nd. Once you choose lady you go downstairs and pay. You have session. When you are done you stop again on your way out to turn in key and pay for drinks.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2517610]The way centaurus works is you pay an entrance fee when you arrive. They give you key to locker. I take cash for the discount. They have shower, bathroom and locker room on first floor. Bar on 2nd. Once you choose lady you go downstairs and pay. You have session. When you are done you stop again on your way out to turn in key and pay for drinks.[/QUOTE]You pay an entrance fee upon entering. Brazilians and gringos who they know or who tell them they are not going to enter if they have to pay upfront, pay when exiting. Not sure I am going to go with a girl tonight is usually all it takes. Pre-COVID there was a reason you would see employees hanging around the entrance and girls would help you on with your robe. They were sizing you up. Whether you realize it or not, in life you are constantly being sized up, particularly your ability and willingness to pay. Practice your poker face. Smile. Don't be a jerk, but don't be the fat kid in the donut shop.

Is Rio closing down these days at 7 pm due to covid?

[QUOTE=BigZozoIntl;2517528]I heard the malls are also a good spot in mongering. Is that true?[/QUOTE]Interesting and direct question. I will give you my opinion.

If you learn some basic Portuguese and you have some natural charm, the malls can definitely be places to meet women. You shouldn't immediately treat the women like programa girls especially in front of their co-workers or friends. Get their numbers and you can be direct as you like on the phone or text (with translator app if needed).

Some of the girls in the mall (not all) love the attention from foreign men and some know a little English. I like chatting up pretty store clerks. You have to remember the minimum wage is something around USA $200 per month. I don't think the clerks make much more than that.

I personally invite the girls to a nice lunch or dinner. You can be as direct as you want over the phone. Most of the girls know the score with foreign men. You will find some turn to semi-pros as soon as you contact them. Others need a little of the nuance of dating and pursuit. Granted the latter is a bigger investment in time (and some risk of not closing), but I also like hanging out with pretty local girls when traveling.

As far as approaching girls walking around the mall, I think it pays off to not be overly bold and overly direct. That works for me. I have a buddy who doesn't bother to use any Portuguese and has the attitude "I have money and they don't". He has a terrible success ratio and simply plays the numbers. Treating every Brasileira at the mall like she is a hooker is a plan for failure in my opinion. Of course, that strategy can sift out the pros if you aren't thrown out of the mall first.

[QUOTE=BigZozoIntl;2517528]I heard the malls are also a good spot in mongering. Is that true?[/QUOTE]Mongering in the mall is the absolute best! The best technique would be to go to Rio Sul mall, hang out in the food court. When you see a hot girl, walk up to her, smack her on the ass and say "Vamos fuder! That is the "secret handshake" that all mongers and hookers know. I will give you a tip, the harder you smack her on the ass, the more respect she will have for you and will quote a lower price!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2517682]Mongering in the mall is the absolute best! The best technique would be to go to Rio Sul mall, hang out in the food court. When you see a hot girl, walk up to her, smack her on the ass and say "Vamos fuder! That is the "secret handshake" that all mongers and hookers know. I will give you a tip, the harder you smack her on the ass, the more respect she will have for you and will quote a lower price![/QUOTE]
Actually, a few years back two italian guys did just that in Rio Sul (with a pregnant woman). Both got arrested and ended up in prison.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2517716]Actually, a few years back two italian guys did just that in Rio Sul (with a pregnant woman). Both got arrested and ended up in prison.[/QUOTE]II remember that incident, I was hoping nobody would bring it up. I am so tired of the trolls who create new accounts and flood the board with asinine questions.

Thanks for this. Should I book one of these in advance for a whole day / multiple days or just go in there for a few hours when I have a girl already?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2517549][URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

Half or more of Brazilians were conceived in its sex motels.

A man with cash could stay in Brazil or at least Rio indefinitely with just the above website as reference.

Not only that he could live a better life than he would otherwise life in any rich world puritanical country.

If you have not gotten laid in the above sex motels, then do.

In such sex starved times as holidays, you, young Jedi mongers must get laid in sex motels. Usually in the zona norte. Where most of our beloved working girls in zona sul live.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CrtGame;2517649]Is Rio closing down these days at 7 pm due to covid?[/QUOTE]No, there was a hard lockdown on new years eve. Only a few restraunts were open in copa. They closed ave atlantica and had checkpoints between neighborhoods. I walked av atlantica a while before midnight. Even though the official fireworks were canceled the locals shows were great!

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2517629]You pay an entrance fee upon entering. Brazilians and gringos who they know or who tell them they are not going to enter if they have to pay upfront, pay when exiting. Not sure I am going to go with a girl tonight is usually all it takes. Pre-COVID there was a reason you would see employees hanging around the entrance and girls would help you on with your robe. They were sizing you up. Whether you realize it or not, in life you are constantly being sized up, particularly your ability and willingness to pay. Practice your poker face. Smile. Don't be a jerk, but don't be the fat kid in the donut shop.[/QUOTE]I fail to see the difference in whether or not you pay on the way in or out. They have set rates, you are either going to session or get numbers. You will be buying drinks and spending either way. If somone is that tight on cash a trash terma might be more suited for that situation. They can also be wrong on their assumptions, a local told me just yesterday "you never assume in Rio". My first time I could tell the manager was surprised I sessioned there because I took the advice posted here and did not dress nice to draw unwanted attention. Maybe you could explain more, I am confused by your clarification LOL. Do you not pay any entrance fee? If that is the case I don't think its fair to expect a tourist to get in free. They know their customer base.

The day was quite the adventure, a truly memorable experience. I am glad VM was slow as VB1 reported because that beautiful shithole would have been really overwhelming and probably smelled even worse if it was busy. I would defiantly return now that I know what to expect. Olegario was HiSo Rio. The views at the restraunt were great. Has to be best posto in Rio area. Downtown Recerio posto 12 probably shouldn't be traveled alone. It was a cool local scene though. Transamerica is legit. If it was closer to the praia it would be perfect. It may have been a blessing in disguise many places were closed we got to see and learn more. Also don't try and call any of the termas listed not a single phone number works. LOL. Thanks for the experience Vagabundo.

Started my night after terapista at marrakesh the talent was a lot better than last trip. The door man is a really good guy. He remembered me right off the jump. 50 to get in with 2 free drinks. There were 3 or 4 that any cialis infused peen would enjoy. They were still putting up new years decorations so I bought the random mixed woman next to me a drink. She was far from the hottest but she intrigued me so I bought her a few more drinks and then decided to check out Casablanca. The American guy that works there and most of the girls remembered me from Halloween. Unfortunately all the best talent had been checked out so I bought a couple no gos some drinks just to get intel. Just watch your bill there they tried to over charge me. Went back to marrakesh and sessioned the intriguing girl even though hotter were available. Only because she had a good vibe. The next day Vagabundo and I went out (see his report). After that I went back to marrakesh because a brunette spinner caught my eye the night before. She never got sessioned and only one guy bought her a drink. She runs with a clique that are constantly on their phone messaging Carioca boyfriends to come in. She ignored me all night. I then decided to buy a slim tall older gal a drink for intel. After a while she confronts the spinner about ignoring me. She was actually jealous of my attraction for the other young lady. Turns out the spinner is almost blind. She didn't see me trying to get her attention. I am not really one to chase a worker around a boate. So to show my appreciation I bought some more drinks and used the time to get to know the spinner. Ended up bringing both back to my room we agreed on an hour but they ended up staying from about 3 to 6. I paid 900 including house for a decent threesome that was over an hour. Had to kick them out for sleep they were drunk and lingering at that point. Today I went to a prive I chose randomly off the local forum. Had a great session with a mixed spinner. After she told me she gets off at 6 and gives me her zapp so I invite her to dinner. 4 hours later I am 500 reais poorer but it was the best sex I have had all year! Monger on!

II am disappointed with the Transamerica: I booked yesterday via Booking, received a confirmation and gave an arrival time but no message since. I am there waiting in this place which is actually called "Mediterraneo Flat" and no one can help me. The telephone number of the person there doesn't answer on Whatsapp and cannot be reached by normal telephone.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2517853]I fail to see the difference in whether or not you pay on the way in or out. They have set rates, you are either going to session or get numbers. You will be buying drinks and spending either way. If somone is that tight on cash a trash terma might be more suited for that situation. They can also be wrong on their assumptions, a local told me just yesterday "you never assume in Rio". My first time I could tell the manager was surprised I sessioned there because I took the advice posted here and did not dress nice to draw unwanted attention. Maybe you could explain more, I am confused by your clarification LOL. Do you not pay any entrance fee? If that is the case I don't think its fair to expect a tourist to get in free. They know their customer base.[/QUOTE]Centaurus, as compared to other thermas, makes you pay the entrance fee immediately when you enter. They ideally would also like you to prepay a session when you enter as well, but you can also pay when you decide to session. At other thermas like Monte Carlo, you pay for everything when you leave. I don't like this feeling of not being trusted and having to prepay everything. Foe this reason, in addition to heavy selling pressure and some mediocre sessions and the higher prices, I don't go to Centaurus anymore.

[QUOTE=CrtGame;2517649]Is Rio closing down these days at 7 pm due to covid?[/QUOTE]I was in Copacabana in November. Taxis were off the street by 11 PM. The small bars in front of the beach were shut by midnight at the latest. Monte Carlo I think was open until midnight as well and no later. I'd like to know if the curfew hours changed.

I like that Transamerica is two blocks back from the beach. It is an easy and nice walk, with a little exclusive boat ride in between. On the beach is too noisy and busy for me.

The pool has been closed the last few weeks due to the pandemic. I am told it will open after the new year. It can't be soon enough.

As for bad experiences in Transamerica, I just report my experience, which was prompted by another member, Safado69's experience. It works well for me.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2517885]Went back to marrakesh and sessioned the intriguing girl even though hotter were available. Only because she had a good vibe. [/QUOTE]Most times I follow this rule, I end up with a very good-to-great session. Most times I pick hotness over vibe, it's bad-to-just OK (with a much better ratio in major termas, of course).

Thanks for your reports!

[QUOTE=Calebasse;2518038]II am disappointed with the Transamerica: I booked yesterday via Booking, received a confirmation and gave an arrival time but no message since. I am there waiting in this place which is actually called "Mediterraneo Flat" and no one can help me. The telephone number of the person there doesn't answer on Whatsapp and cannot be reached by normal telephone.[/QUOTE]In fairness, if you book with an individual host rather than the management, that's who you should be disappointed with. You can call Booking and ask them to interfere (in my experience, they've been good resolving issues, but can be difficult to reach) or / and contact Vagabundo who stays there long-term and see if he can help.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2517853]I fail to see the difference in whether or not you pay on the way in or out. They have set rates, you are either going to session or get numbers. You will be buying drinks and spending either way. If somone is that tight on cash a trash terma might be more suited for that situation. They can also be wrong on their assumptions, a local told me just yesterday "you never assume in Rio". My first time I could tell the manager was surprised I sessioned there because I took the advice posted here and did not dress nice to draw unwanted attention. Maybe you could explain more, I am confused by your clarification LOL. Do you not pay any entrance fee? If that is the case I don't think its fair to expect a tourist to get in free. They know their customer base.[/QUOTE]I think what he was referring to was the old policy that required that you pay the entrance and programa upon entry. It didn't matter whether you took one or not. That was common practice, unless you knew someone there or were able to convince them otherwise. I've been there maybe 5 times (haven't returned since mid 2000's), and managed not to pre pay once. One time I went and wasn't feeling it. I tried to get my money back, but they refused. Good thing I was able to go back in and find someone. That was back when $310 r was a lot for a termas, LOL.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2518173]I was in Copacabana in November. Taxis were off the street by 11 PM. The small bars in front of the beach were shut by midnight at the latest. Monte Carlo I think was open until midnight as well and no later. I'd like to know if the curfew hours changed.[/QUOTE]Everything is open the hours stated on google. I left well past midnight several nights so far. Termas, boate, cafe. Restraunts are all open. Dulce vita lights were on when I went past on one night. Don't remember which. For now anyway. A previous report said sao Paolo has curfews. But they probably aren't as reliant on tourism. They are going to feel a crunch with the testing rule. The locals I have spoken to have been unaware of the coming slow down. Many people don't want to risk a vacation interruption on a test.

[QUOTE=Calebasse;2518038]II am disappointed with the Transamerica: I booked yesterday via Booking, received a confirmation and gave an arrival time but no message since. I am there waiting in this place which is actually called "Mediterraneo Flat" and no one can help me. The telephone number of the person there doesn't answer on Whatsapp and cannot be reached by normal telephone.[/QUOTE]I believe what happened here is you went the wrong route. I just booked a play room for two nights at TA through airbnb. Host has several rooms and pictures of all the amenities so I was sure it was it. Upon booking it is TA. Now I have a beach apt and a pleasure hall.

Made the move to barra (pronounced baja) nice apartment hotel at posto 8. Quiet beach area but really nice. Sessioned one off of PA morena 22 years old nice Cs firm bunda. She asked me if I would like her to bring a friend but I declined so I could screen them. Lives at none other than Transamerica. She was very distant so I hit it and asked her to eat with me which she was more than happy to do. She was dressed like a real working girl. Tiny leather shorts and a tube top, so I took her to the nice fancy family restaurant next door. Oh the entertaining looks we got. She had her nose in her phone the whole time so we parted ways after eating. $250 for the hour, her "fancy meal" was $9 USA While I was waiting on the next subject I messaged VB1 to inform of my ignorance for not listening. So I booked a room for 2 nights at transamerica. I will sleep and spend my mornings at the beach apt and afternoons and late evenings at TA most likely. The price was negligible so I think the investment will pay off. The second subject a spinner from barravips finally showed after she finished dinner. Super cute could not have been more my type for a white girl. Good session then she puts her nose in her phone for the last 10 minutes after the deed. I politely tell her if she's bored she can go, she just smiled and sat on her phone. She then had the nerve to ask me for uber money. I will copy and paste my response here. Sinto muito, dei-lhe 600, que um prmio aqui e voc esteve no telefone o tempo todo, o que eu acho rude. Didn't take her long after that to hit the door. Even with the arrogance it was probably worth the money but she did not earn a tip and was ignorant to ask for one. After that the random prive girl messaged about a conversation we had and I decided to have her for a pernoite on Tuesday. We agreed on 450 again. Hopefully I have time for the barra prive hoe from last time with the amazing bunda but at this point I only have two windows to make it happen. Monger on!

I hear that 4 X 4 has reopened in the past couple of weeks, can anyone confirm?

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2518266]Everything is open the hours stated on google. I left well past midnight several nights so far. Termas, boate, cafe. Restraunts are all open. Dulce vita lights were on when I went past on one night. Don't remember which. For now anyway. A previous report said sao Paolo has curfews. But they probably aren't as reliant on tourism. They are going to feel a crunch with the testing rule. The locals I have spoken to have been unaware of the coming slow down. Many people don't want to risk a vacation interruption on a test.[/QUOTE]So pre-COVID taxis were around after 11 PM? I used Uber but I was told and noticed no taxis after 11 PM.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2518269]I believe what happened here is you went the wrong route. I just booked a play room for two nights at TA through airbnb. ...[/QUOTE]Thank you, it seems indeed that the offer on Booking of one of the former owner has remained online. So DON'T BOOK TRANSAMERICA THROUGH [URL]BOOKING.COM[/URL] OR [URL]AGODA.COM[/URL]!

So not to lose everything, I went to EuroRio Spa which open on Sunday ([URL]https://brothel-in.com/rio-de-janeiro/euro-rio-spa/[/URL]). Only one girl, 30 yo overweighted. 2 pops /1 h 200 reals. Rather nice.

Then I got a sim card at TIM at Leblon Shopping center (Claro said the guy was not there and sent me to them).

After that picked-up an older girl at MAB'S in Copacabana and brought her to my place: very nice girl friend experience. Even if she wasn't the best looking, this is what I wanted: kisses, cudlings and good sex (300 reals, I bargained a bit. Probably not enough).

Going to try some prive this morning, later Vila Mimosa, secret Terma, pickup a last girl elsewhere (any recommendation for a location?

[QUOTE=Ee2002;2518210]I think what he was referring to was the old policy that required that you pay the entrance and programa upon entry. It didn't matter whether you took one or not. That was common practice, unless you knew someone there or were able to convince them otherwise. I've been there maybe 5 times (haven't returned since mid 2000's), and managed not to pre pay once. One time I went and wasn't feeling it. I tried to get my money back, but they refused. Good thing I was able to go back in and find someone. That was back when $310 r was a lot for a termas, LOL.[/QUOTE]Ah ok that is very different then. Their system now is ok. Even at solarium you have to talk on the phone to confirm your program in full detail. I like that, it clears up any confusion and keeps from unwanted upsales.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2518403]So pre-COVID taxis were around after 11 PM? I used Uber but I was told and noticed no taxis after 11 PM.[/QUOTE]I cannot speak to pre covid as limited travel is what brought me here. Taxis are out all night now. At least around the nightlife hot spots. Uber is cheaper anyway. Took a taxi from Marrakesh it was 14 reais same trip on uber was 6.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2518381]I hear that 4 X 4 has reopened in the past couple of weeks, can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Wow! You can't search the thread for 4 x 4, it's too common, too short for the search engine. Read post #22269, currently on page 11 from Dec 18. Wow, Time Flies and waits for No Man!

Have been almost 2 weeks in SP (Time is flying when on vacation).

Most days spent with my girlfriend, and was hit by lockdown and sore throat maybe even Covid to explore more.

Now will try to visit Terma for first time before my GF comes visiting me again.

So far I had one visit with PA girl in Barra which was disaster. Was different girl and offered duo with friend which I fullishy accepted.

Anyway overpaid terrible experience.

Another one was Colombiana overnight for 700 reis.

OK but probably not worth so after that decided to keep on going with GF. Safer bet considering these 2 not so successful experiences.

Will try my luck on Tinder (though looks like no much action) and Termas.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2518327]Made the move to barra (pronounced baja) nice apartment hotel at posto 8. Quiet beach area but really nice........ So I booked a room for 2 nights at transamerica. I will sleep and spend my mornings at the beach apt and afternoons and late evenings at TA most likely. The price was negligible so I think the investment will pay off.[/QUOTE]LLT, can you elaborate on why you booked at two locations in Barra? I sense you want to be at the beach and you also want the benefits of staying at TA. I don't think I have really heard anyone expound in great detail on having a place at TA besides Vagabundo. I know many escorts live on-site. Do you run into them at the pool? Otherwise, is there a big advantage of having them drop by?

This is a side note: When the great disco existed, I stayed a few doors down in this crappy apartment. The benefit was the building was full of garota de programas. I would run into them in the lobby, the elevator and the hallway. They were quite willing to do a daytime quickie and whatever else.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2518381]I hear that 4 X 4 has reopened in the past couple of weeks, can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]It's open, but I liked T65 better.

I go to gparena for my prive info. It may be dated but most of it is relevant.

[QUOTE=Sargent50;2518562]It's open, but I liked T65 better.[/QUOTE]It is open.

Just came back from it.

Was not so busy and I was already wasted from buzzing and other stuff to try having sessions but went there just because it was on my way to hotel and was curious about the place.

Entrance 50 are, had 2 drinks and went home but place looks great to have fun.

Shame I was already done and was also empty and closing at 2400 so wasn't feeling vibe.

Anyway great place.

Few interesting morenas.

Started the morning by going to barra shopping to do some sight seeing and get brunch. Decided on Taco Bell for a taste of home.

Lots of good looking women there. I could have easily had 3 store keepers numbers. All three different types. One had some perfect plastic dees. I actually made her blush. Then I saw a smoking spinner at a shoe store so I go in and before I can talk to her, her coworker is running up to me. A really cute thicker 19 to 20 year old. She had all kinds of questions, her intrest peaked the interest of the spinner and she started with the interrogation. I chose not to ask but I am positive all would have been a go for chatting on zap. Then I started looking for the forgotten prive, decided to message the lady and ask where it was. Went turns out it is eros massagem. The technician had lost some weight and looked even better but she must have been new when I got her last time because she was blown out this time. I decided to try the bunda. My first time this trip. It was much better. Well worth the 250 entry fee since she even gave me a decent 10 minute massage. Next I got a message from the dud from transamericas friend. She offered the 200 hour so I headed to my playground over there. Several good looking girls at the tiny bar as I was coming and going. The friend Duda was basic white girl looking especially for here, but my God was she tight. Well well worth the 200. After relaxing for a while I headed to Paris Cafe club in receraio. It was slow when I arrived. Lots of girls and only 3 customers, me being the fourth. I prefer it this way easier shopping. An older blonde with a way below average face and way above average plastic barbie body latched on to me. She was taken back by me speaking english so she asked a friend to come help translate my broken portuguese and after a few minutes she couldn't even understand her friend. I then decided the beetch was dumb as a box of rocks and the friend was cute and smart as fuck so I started buying her drinks. The blonde finally got the hint after the 3rd drink but still sat with us. I sessioned the friend a 22 year old college student girl next door type. No plastic just petite and sweet. Went with 2 hours because I was drunk and didn't want to rush things. It was 1100 with room and a bunch of drinks. The room was pretty sweet. Hot tub, stripper pole, lights, huge bed, curved chair. The whole enchilada. About an hour and a half in she starts to dry out and I can't finish again. They mix their drinks really strong. 4 to 1 ratio of gim to tomica. So I have mercy on her with 10 minutes left. And for the last 30 minutes my phone had been blowing up interrupting the music. It was the Duda from transamerica with 6 messages. Here is the most important one. Pode falar por aqui, ela est do meu lado! Ela faz anal, se voc gosta posso dizer o preo the hora dela com anal! And some pictures. I agree to the 400 hour and head back to Transamerica. This girls bunda was tight session lasted a total of 28 minutes. I was happy I got to finish finally, she was happy I didn't need more. Pretty good night cap really. I tried to upload pics but it didn't work. Maybe once I get home. Monger on!

Oh and I successfully completed my failed mission from last time, I got the door girls zap at Paris. It was a personal victory just given her reaction when was messing with her and asked to take her up between my two sessions last time. She is cute but definitely not hot. Just wanted to flatter her. Hell if its cheap I might hit it. Probably the best pussy in the place. It took a lot of work just to get her number.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2518269]I believe what happened here is you went the wrong route. I just booked a play room for two nights at TA through airbnb. Host has several rooms and pictures of all the amenities so I was sure it was it. Upon booking it is TA. Now I have a beach apt and a pleasure hall.[/QUOTE]I've searched online before and tried to book rooms at TA but with no success. Is there a specific site or method I should be using? I've been in Barra a few times but just ended up booking different hotels online as I cannot speak Portuguese and didn't want the hassle of calling in. It wasn't online through any travel agency so just trying to figure out what's the best method / process of getting a room at TA. Actually kinda surprised you can snag a room through Airbnb.

Well, I picked up the new year with a pernoite with Rihanna Noir. Picked her up at Central today at 5 ish, ubered her back. Two creampies in her pussy. Told her I didn't want to hurt her little ass. She seemed to appreciate that.

I picked up a new hiking bag today at Decathalon. My black chinese bag bought for 180 reais in centro already tore on a trip to the mercado. This is for taking the boxing bag to the gym and back.

The hookers are hitting me up like the swans coming back to capistrano, or some such analogy.

But I am thinking I need to rotate more morenas and loiras into the diet.

I need to get my inner nach vidal on.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2518785]Started the morning by going to barra shopping to do some sight seeing and get brunch. Decided on Taco Bell for a taste of home.

Lots of good looking women there. I could have easily had 3 store keepers numbers. All three different types. One had some perfect plastic dees. I actually made her blush. Then I saw a smoking spinner at a shoe store so I go in and before I can talk to her, her coworker is running up to me. A really cute thicker 19 to 20 year old. She had all kinds of questions, her intrest peaked the interest of the spinner and she started with the interrogation. I chose not to ask but I am positive all would have been a go for chatting on zap. Then I started looking for the forgotten prive, decided to message the lady and ask where it was. Went turns out it is eros massagem. The technician had lost some weight and looked even better but she must have been new when I got her last time because she was blown out this time. I decided to try the bunda. My first time this trip. It was much better. Well worth the 250 entry fee since she even gave me a decent 10 minute massage. Next I got a message from the dud from transamericas friend. She offered the 200 hour so I headed to my playground over there. Several good looking girls at the tiny bar as I was coming and going. The friend Duda was basic white girl looking especially for here, but my God was she tight. Well well worth the 200. After relaxing for a while I headed to Paris Cafe club in receraio. It was slow when I arrived. Lots of girls and only 3 customers, me being the fourth. I prefer it this way easier shopping..[/QUOTE]

Tomorrow: we are doing 4 x 4 and / or vila mimosa.

The reopening of 4 x 4 is a great victory for humans with penises everywhere.

Pm me.

I also plan to just sit in 4 x 4 at the sauna chair with the best view of the girls asses on the way up to their sessions so come and say Hi.

Alternately I will be at the little bar across from mosaico on the northern entrance to the vila mimosa triangle.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2519004]Well, I picked up the new year with a pernoite with Rihanna Noir. Picked her up at Central today at 5 ish, ubered her back. Two creampies in her pussy. Told her I didn't want to hurt her little ass. She seemed to appreciate that.

I picked up a new hiking bag today at Decathalon. My black chinese bag bought for 180 reais in centro already tore on a trip to the mercado. This is for taking the boxing bag to the gym and back.

The hookers are hitting me up like the swans coming back to capistrano, or some such analogy.

But I am thinking I need to rotate more morenas and loiras into the diet.

I need to get my inner nach vidal on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mcd2293;2518993]I've searched online before and tried to book rooms at TA but with no success. Is there a specific site or method I should be using? I've been in Barra a few times but just ended up booking different hotels online as I cannot speak Portuguese and didn't want the hassle of calling in. It wasn't online through any travel agency so just trying to figure out what's the best method / process of getting a room at TA. Actually kinda surprised you can snag a room through Airbnb.[/QUOTE]I'm sure VB1 or LLT can explain the situation better than me, but it appears from my research that TA has been renamed as Mediterranean Barra Flat. Biarritz, and the building owners are now just a management company. The rooms have, or are being leased to individual owners who rent them through Airbnb and other outlets. Easy find on airbnB site and rate was very inexpensive, for March it was 15 UK pounds or US $20 per night. See attached screen shot.

I guess that's all true.

I just came by one day asked for a room and by that night had one.

I have 27 trips and speak Porto ok.

Search on sites for av gastão senges 395.

The top 10% talent is superb.

The attached is a girl I met at pool who pops up on [URL]barravips.com[/URL] for a day and I see getting in and out of cabs.

[QUOTE=MrMatrix;2519130]I'm sure VB1 or LLT can explain the situation better than me, but it appears from my research that TA has been renamed as Mediterranean Barra Flat. Biarritz, and the building owners are now just a management company. The rooms have, or are being leased to individual owners who rent them through Airbnb and other outlets. Easy find on airbnB site and rate was very inexpensive, for March it was 15 UK pounds or US $20 per night. See attached screen shot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2519024]Tomorrow: we are doing 4 x 4 and / or vila mimosa.

Alternately I will be at the little bar across from mosaico on the northern entrance to the vila mimosa triangle.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the Vila Mimosa neighborhood?

Is it dangerous to go there?

You can share a link to the mosaico bar on google map.

Thanks a lot.

And now I am confused as shit. One of my chicks (non-pro) in Rio just hit me up saying she saw on the news that an American was arrested in Copacabana for sexual tourism, which is illegal in Brazil. She said the hotel workers suspected it and called the police. I guess I started asking too many questions because she eventually said:
Por que o interesse? Voc no faz essas coisas n🤷🏽*♀️

Um estadunidense foi preso em Copacabana , turismo sexual.
Ele estava no hotel com uma garota,os funcionrios desconfiou. e chamou a Aqui fala muito sobre o turismo sexual. A a polcia est de olho.
Tem que acabar com isso. ridculo.
No tem prostituta ns ou outros pases no? 🤷🏽*♀️

Nevermind. I just looked it up. Says the girl was 14 and her mom facilitated it. She was talking as if it was a grown woman. [url]https://www.diariodoaco.com.br/noticia/0085027-estadunidense-que-veio-ao-brasil-para-***-relacoes-sexuais-com-menina-de-14-anos-e-preso[/url]

So it's really only 3 monger spots in barra?

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2518785]Started the morning by going to barra shopping to do some sight seeing and get brunch. Decided on Taco Bell for a taste of home.

Lots of good looking women there. I could have easily had 3 store keepers numbers. All three different types. One had some perfect plastic dees. I actually made her blush. Then I saw a smoking spinner at a shoe store so I go in and before I can talk to her, her coworker is running up to me. A really cute thicker 19 to 20 year old. She had all kinds of questions, her intrest peaked the interest of the spinner and she started with the interrogation. I chose not to ask but I am positive all would have been a go for chatting on zap. Then I started looking for the forgotten prive, decided to message the lady and ask where it was. Went turns out it is eros massagem. The technician had lost some weight and looked even better but she must have been new when I got her last time because she was blown out this time. I decided to try the bunda. My first time this trip. It was much better. Well worth the 250 entry fee since she even gave me a decent 10 minute massage. Next I got a message from the dud from transamericas friend. She offered the 200 hour so I headed to my playground over there. Several good looking girls at the tiny bar as I was coming and going. The friend Duda was basic white girl looking especially for here, but my God was she tight. Well well worth the 200. After relaxing for a while I headed to Paris Cafe club in receraio..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2519464]And now I am confused as shit. One of my chicks (non-pro) in Rio just hit me up saying she saw on the news that an American was arrested in Copacabana for sexual tourism, which is illegal in Brazil. She said the hotel workers suspected it and called the police. I guess I started asking too many questions because she eventually said:
Por que o interesse? Voc no faz essas coisas n🤷🏽*♀️

Um estadunidense foi preso em Copacabana , turismo sexual.
Ele estava no hotel com uma garota,os funcionrios desconfiou. e chamou a Aqui fala muito sobre o turismo sexual. A a polcia est de olho.
Tem que acabar com isso. ridculo.
No tem prostituta ns ou outros pases no? 🤷🏽*♀️

Nevermind. I just looked it up. Says the girl was 14 and her mom facilitated it. She was talking as if it was a grown woman. [url]https://www.diariodoaco.com.br/noticia/0085027-estadunidense-que-veio-ao-brasil-para-***-relacoes-sexuais-com-menina-de-14-anos-e-preso[/url][/QUOTE]In all my time in Brazil I have only come across one obviously underage girl. She was working on the streets in Copacabana. I immediately reported her to the police and waited until they took her off the street. Hope that other members of this site would do the same. There is no hole dark or deep enough for those who exploit children.

Well, my trip is over. I will start by thanking vagabundo1 for the good time we had and apologize for not making it to VM and 4 x4 with him. Here is the why. I asked secret prive girl to go on a helicopter ride with me since I didn't want to pay for an empty seat or take some rando that I had no connection with. We did the helicopter tour and ate dinner. Then I asked for BBFS to which she agreed after some thought and talking. 3 sessions of bbfscip, half a fifth of gin, and dusk to dawn later we fell asleep. 450 for pernoite and she was reluctant to take my money but I insisted. She had to work at 10 am so at 9 the alarm woke us. I got her an uber and she was at work around 1020 am. At 11 I get a message saying she is leaving work because she wants to spend my last day with me. I think she quit but I did not inquire to deeply as it is none of my business. I was at TA waiting on a blonde dime at this point and tell her I won't be back to my praia casa until 1. She waits and meets me there. The blonde showed up at 1240 so I blocked her number and ghosted her. Pissed me off because we started talking at 1030. She agreed to 250/ HR. But I had better things ahead and she wasted my time because Duda was ready and agreed to anal but I put her off for the blonde. I checked out of TA and back at Praia casa and my secret is there within 5 minutes of me arriving. We spent the whole day and all evening in the bedroom. The only break was to eat for 40 minutes. It was unreal. I have bruises on my arms from her clinching so tightly during her climaxes. My hip hurts so bad I could hardly walk all day and my shoulder is tweaked from holding her by the hips and bouncing her for so long. My god is it all worth it. When it is time for me to go I ask her how much and she insists on me not paying her. So we agree that I give her a parting gift. We were both happy with that situation. She is a sweet girl and I do not know what lies ahead but she will probably end up in Miami at some point this year (circumstances allowing) since I am not able to swing another trip to Brasil but could do a long weekend in MIA. I am fortunate enough that I have a time issue and no money issues. My trip could not have ended more perfectly.

To answer questions: Barra only has one boate, it is pearla negra. I did not make it there and have not read any reports. Based on its location I think it could be a very very good one. A swing club is in the same building but closed due to the rona. Paris is kind of out of the way at Recerio de Banditos or whatever. But it has a good vibe, They mix their drinks strong and the prices are half of centaurus and solarium. The ladies are not as high a quality but there are some really good looking ones. I also found out that Pantera in Recario is owned by the same people that own Paris. We had no succes finding it though. There are many prives in Barra but the main event is definately Transamerica. Yes it called Mediterano flats now but on google and uber it is transamerica and if you tell girls you are staying there the prices drop quickly for the most part. I paid $100 for two nights for a room with a balcony on the 15th floor. I sessioned 4 ladies from there but only actually called one. After that I had over 10 offers from women and are still receiving them as we speak even though I am back in the midwest and told them that. I did not negotiate on price. I paid what they asked because the service was good and convenient. I did not tip any and after I session one they would refer a friend to me. I had a morena, a latina, and a branca all staying together. Each better than the one before. When I go back I will probably only stay at Transamerica. It is very safe in a super nice neighborhood. I like the beach but you could very easily do 10 of the hottest women on the planet each day and never repeat in a weeks time. There are 500 rooms there and every woman in Rio knows, that's where the top tier women are. My secret prive girl was taken back when she found my room key for there. I showed her the pictures and let her read the whatsapp messages. If nothing else so she could learn because she is very new to the game. Well boys it was fun! Until next time back to the grind. And be careful because there are some sweethearts down there that really tug at the heart strings. This trip, I was reminded how human we all really are. Monger on!

This was my first time to Rio, I went with a friend and we are from Europe, been to Fortaleza twice before.

I used to have some information here about Rio, thank you all.

I booked a good apartment in Copacabana through Airbnb, and had no problem bringing a girl into the house.

I mostly traveled by uber and sometimes by taxi through Rio. Bought a sim card from Tim for a month 30 gb for 200 reals, bought.

At Shopping Rio Sul, and I got the phone number of a girl who works there, but otherwise I did not contact her.

We have been a bit everywhere:

Casablanca mostly the same girls, 10 or so of which 2 look good, nothing special there, we went twice and after half an hour we left, so we did nothing.

Boate Kalabria also been there just like Casablanca, nothing special.

4 x 4 we went there once, about 20 girls of which 5 are good, it is not busy one of the halls are closed, also left after half an hour.

We went evenings to Mabs around 10:30 pm and usually bark until 00:30 and then we went to Dolce Vida until about 3:00 am.

Usually we took girls to apartment almost every night I also had girl where I spent three days, for 1500 reals, but she went to the beach with me, eating, drinking and natural fucking during the day.

Most girls charge 300 reals for an hour and 500 reals for all night, Much the same girls come to Mabs and Dolce Vita every night.

You have everything in between so you have to pay attention to what you bring home, I had good girls and also bad ones who just wanted to see money and a little sex and want go home. Many of those girls use all kinds of drugs.

We often went to the beach during the day, and we met some girls there too. We were in Rio between December 15 and January 5, there were also bad weather days with a lot of rain.

Old new year we celebrated in Lapa because the Copacabana was closed and there was completely full of people I thought that night here I will get the corona but until these days I have not had. And I did pcr test for that I am leaving Brasil otherwise I cannot fly.

I think prices are quite high in Rio and everyone tries to steal you like in restoran, beach, on the street, so you have to check your bill all the time.

I don't know what the times have been like in Rio before the Pandemic but I'm not overwhelmed with Rio, I had a much better time in Fortaleza, indeed that was before the corona, I don't want to come out negative, but I expected more for so big city. I don't know if I will go to Rio again.

That's my story little bit, I hope you understand little bit because my English is not perfect and if you have any questions please let me know.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2519621]Well, my trip is over. I will start by thanking vagabundo1 for the good time we had and apologize for not making it to VM and 4 x4 with him. Here is the why. I asked secret prive girl to go on a helicopter ride with me since I didn't want to pay for an empty seat or take some rando that I had no connection with. We did the helicopter tour and ate dinner. Then I asked for BBFS to which she agreed after some thought and talking. 3 sessions of bbfscip, half a fifth of gin, and dusk to dawn later we fell asleep. 450 for pernoite and she was reluctant to take my money but I insisted. She had to work at 10 am so at 9 the alarm woke us. I got her an uber and she was at work around 1020 am. At 11 I get a message saying she is leaving work because she wants to spend my last day with me. I think she quit but I did not inquire to deeply as it is none of my business. I was at TA waiting on a blonde dime at this point and tell her I won't be back to my praia casa until 1. She waits and meets me there. The blonde showed up at 1240 so I blocked her number and ghosted her. Pissed me off because we started talking at 1030. She agreed to 250/ HR. But I had better things ahead and she wasted my time because Duda was ready and agreed to anal but I put her off for the blonde. I checked out of TA and back at Praia casa and my secret is there within 5 minutes of me arriving. We spent the whole day and a ... ![/QUOTE]Hi,

Great report. Thank you.

Question, I am going to Rio on February for 4 days. Do you think it is better to stay in Barra de Tijuca or Copacabana / Leblon for the time? I already knows Copacabana, been there a few times. We have Dolce Vita and Mabs there, but I never been to Barra de Tijuca. Is it easy to find working girls? Or private?

Thanks in advance.

Aviv.

Good report.

Good hanging out with you.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2519621]Well, my trip is over. I will start by thanking vagabundo1 for the good time we had and apologize for not making it to VM and 4 x4 with him. Here is the why. I asked secret prive girl to go on a helicopter ride with me since I didn't want to pay for an empty seat or take some rando that I had no connection with. We did the helicopter tour and ate dinner. Then I asked for BBFS to which she agreed after some thought and talking. 3 sessions of bbfscip, half a fifth of gin, and dusk to dawn later we fell asleep. 450 for pernoite and she was reluctant to take my money but I insisted. She had to work at 10 am so at 9 the alarm woke us. I got her an uber and she was at work around 1020 am. At 11 I get a message saying she is leaving work because she wants to spend my last day with me. I think she quit but I did not inquire to deeply as it is none of my business. I was at TA waiting on a blonde dime at this point and tell her I won't be back to my praia casa until 1. She waits and meets me there. The blonde showed up at 1240 so I blocked her number and ghosted her. Pissed me off because we started talking at 1030. She agreed to 250/ HR. But I had better things ahead and she wasted my time because Duda was ready and agreed to anal but I put her off for the blonde. I checked out of TA and back at Praia casa and my secret is there within 5 minutes of me arriving. We spent the whole day and all evening in the bedroom. The only break was to eat for 40 minutes. It was unreal. I have bruises on my arms from her clinching so tightly during her climaxes. My hip hurts so bad I could hardly walk all day and my shoulder is tweaked from holding her by the hips and bouncing her for so long. My god is it all worth it. When it is time for me to go I ask her how much and she insists on me not paying her. So we agree that I give her a parting gift. We were both happy with that situation. She is a sweet girl and I do not know what lies ahead but she will probably end up in Miami at some point this year (circumstances allowing) since I am not able to swing another trip to Brasil but could do a long weekend in MIA. I am fortunate enough that I have a time issue and no money issues. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2519621]Well, my trip is over. I will start by thanking vagabundo1 for the good time [/QUOTE]Thanks again but please LLT and others: add white spaces, it's very difficult to read like this.

[QUOTE=Sinbad76;2519630]This was my first time to Rio, I went with a friend and we are from Europe, been to Fortaleza twice before.

I used to have some information here about Rio, thank you all.

I booked a good apartment in Copacabana through Airbnb, and had no problem bringing a girl into the house.

I mostly traveled by uber and sometimes by taxi through Rio. [/QUOTE]Thank you for your report, but don't write off Rio. You haven't seen much, and you need to visit more than once to know whether you like it or hate it.

Out of curiosity, how would you compare Rio and Fortaleza in terms of general ambience, beaches, food and mongering?

[QUOTE=Sinbad76;2519630]This was my first time to Rio, I went with a friend and we are from Europe, been to Fortaleza twice before.

I used to have some information here about Rio, thank you all.

I booked a good apartment in Copacabana through Airbnb, and had no problem bringing a girl into the house.

w.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report.

Is it possible to share your airbnb address or give advise to chose hotel or airbnb which are girlfriendly?

[QUOTE=Sinbad76;2519630]I don't know what the times have been like in Rio before the Pandemic but I'm not overwhelmed with Rio, I had a much better time in Fortaleza, indeed that was before the corona, I don't want to come out negative, but I expected more for so big city. I don't know if I will go to Rio again.[/QUOTE]Interesting report. Many Fortaleza mongers always prefered Fortaleza instead of Rio. Very different mongering. Propably even more now during the corona.

Hello everyone from Valencia, Spain!

I've been reading this forum for some time now and it's really helpful!

I am going to Rio de Janeiro this July with a friend, we are 30 years old and it is our first time in Brazil and Rio de Janeiro. Let's hope that the pandemic will allow it.

The first few days we are going to stay in Ipanema as we also want to do some typical tourism.

For our first night we want to go out in Lapa to see if we can find a Brazilian girl and to have the first contact in these lands, which will be a big impact used to our land. Any recommendation of a disco in Lapa? We will also use Tinder previously. We want to go from less to more.

We want to spend a night in the Hotel Transamerica in Barra the Tijuca, be in the swimming pool, be able to go with some to the beach and make a good feast in our room. Recommendable?

We will also take a night's accommodation near the Mabs Restaurant to try and get on one. How is Mabs doing these days?

Any additional recommendations for "young" people travelling for the first time? We will also go to some thermal baths, perhaps Termas 65.

Thank you very much to everyone and all recommendations are welcome.

[QUOTE=TShelby;2519892]I am going to Rio de Janeiro this July with a friend,

We want to spend a night in the Hotel Transamerica in Barra the Tijuca, be in the swimming pool, be able to go with some to the beach[/QUOTE]It may be too cold for that. July is winter in Brazil.

Can someone who have been in Rio share his thoughts on Tinder and how effective it is in Rio? Since I started using it two years ago, basically 90% of my contacts during traveling around the world are from Tinder or Badoo. And always I had a very, very good time.

I read the reports and it's very rare someone to speak about these apps, it seems that they are non-existing in Brazil. I used them with great success around Asia and Africa and I was wondering why there is almost no reports including Tinder? BTW it was the same in Asia / Africa forums, it seems that people here just don't use them. Are they not a great place to meet freelancers or non-pro girls who are feeling a little adventurous? So can someone share his Rio experience with Tinder / Badoo apps?

[QUOTE=TShelby;2519892]Hello everyone from Valencia, Spain!

We want to spend a night in the Hotel Transamerica in Barra the Tijuca, be in the swimming pool, be able to go with some to the beach and make a good feast in our room. Recommendable?[/QUOTE]Love Valencia, not for mongering, though.

Talk to Vagabundo, but I wouldn't stay in Barra on my first trip. Quite far from everything, but it depends on the duration of your trip.

Rio termas are NOT thermal baths. There is a sauna, but that's it. Baden-Baden they aren't, LOL. Manage your expectations and I'd recommend some more reading.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2519985]It may be too cold for that. July is winter in Brazil.[/QUOTE]To me July in Rio is very comfortable, but I'm a sweating hog. The temp's in high-70, and can still swim in the ocean. Also gives the locals a chance to show off their sweaters and jackets and b*tch nonstop about that bitter cold, LOL.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2520015]Love Valencia, not for mongering, though.

Talk to Vagabundo, but I wouldn't stay in Barra on my first trip. Quite far from everything, but it depends on the duration of your trip.

Rio termas are NOT thermal baths. There is a sauna, but that's it. Baden-Baden they aren't, LOL. Manage your expectations and I'd recommend some more reading.

To me July in Rio is very comfortable, but I'm a sweating hog. The temp's in high-70, and can still swim in the ocean. Also gives the locals a chance to show off their sweaters and jackets and b*tch nonstop about that bitter cold, LOL.[/QUOTE]Thank you, my friend!

In Rio we will spend 5 nights and then go to Pipa and Natal to meet him too. We have to squeeze everything to the max!

So from the 5 nights:

3 nights' accommodation in Ipanema.

1 night in Barra TransAmerica we would only go to spend one night, a whole day in the hotel.

1 night in CopaCabana, near the Mabs and Dolce Vita. How is Barbarella Boite and Kalabria?

If we already know the term Terma: the, we want to choose a good one.

To meet girls on the beach we want to go to the Ipanema beach between posts 9 and 10.

I also don't know if we'll have time for our first Copa583.

Thank you all very much for your help!

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2520004]Can someone who have been in Rio share his thoughts on Tinder and how effective it is in Rio? Since I started using it two years ago, basically 90% of my contacts during traveling around the world are from Tinder or Badoo. And always I had a very, very good time.

I read the reports and it's very rare someone to speak about these apps, it seems that they are non-existing in Brazil. Are they not a great place to meet freelancers or non-pro girls who are feeling a little adventurous?[/QUOTE]Yes Tinder is full of hookers, but unless you have the big package where you can contact them directly, then you will probably be wearing your thumb out and waiting until who knows when for them to swipe on you in order to make the match. For instance, in Colombia me and my friends have experienced already being back home for 3 weeks until a chick swipes back on us. I have not met any non-pros on there. It seems hookers have taken over the majority of the dating apps on the planet.

[QUOTE=Avivis;2519792]...Question, I am going to Rio on February for 4 days. Do you think it is better to stay in Barra de Tijuca or Copacabana / Leblon for the time? I already knows Copacabana, been there a few times. We have Dolce Vita and Mabs there, but I never been to Barra de Tijuca. Is it easy to find working girls? Or private?[/QUOTE]We've gotten a lot of flavor the past few weeks for staying in Barra. It's intriguing. The answer is not black and white. In Barra, you will be Ubering and taking the metro to other parts of the cities. Transamerica sounds good for finding on-line escorts living in your building. It's however not on the beach.

Read LoveLongTime's recent reports. It gives a good impression of staying in Barra. He booked a place on the beach and at TA.

[QUOTE=TShelby;2519892]For our first night we want to go out in Lapa to see if we can find a Brazilian girl and to have the first contact in these lands, which will be a big impact used to our land. Any recommendation of a disco in Lapa?[/QUOTE]The outdoor Lapa street party on Friday and Saturday nights was the focal point of the Lapa scene. The action centered around the plaza next to Arcos the Lapa (Arches). From there, you might find a nearby club worth checking out.

There hasn't been a lot of discussion about Lapa in awhile and particularly during Covid.

[QUOTE=TShelby;2520079] How is Barbarella Boite[/QUOTE]After 44 yrs, Barbarella closed June 26,2020. Due to the covid economic impact.

[QUOTE=Banb92;2519869]Thanks for your report.

Is it possible to share your airbnb address or give advise to chose hotel or airbnb which are girlfriendly?[/QUOTE]I have stayed in two different apartments and I could take girls everywhere, and I think you can bring in any apartment. Booked through booking and Airbnb. I do book for two people!! Regarding hotels I don't know much, just an apartment book because a lot of hotels don't want changing girls every day, and try to stay in Copacabana because usually everything happens there and the beach is close by.

[QUOTE=TShelby;2520079]Thank you, my friend!

In Rio we will spend 5 nights and then go to Pipa and Natal to meet him too. We have to squeeze everything to the max!

So from the 5 nights:

3 nights' accommodation in Ipanema.

1 night in Barra TransAmerica we would only go to spend one night, a whole day in the hotel.

1 night in CopaCabana, near the Mabs and Dolce Vita. How is Barbarella Boite and Kalabria?

If we already know the term Terma: the, we want to choose a good one.

To meet girls on the beach we want to go to the Ipanema beach between posts 9 and 10.

I also don't know if we'll have time for our first Copa583.

Thank you all very much for your help![/QUOTE]I would reconsider. For a 5-day first trip to Rio you'll be moving too much.

Don't you want to do some regular tourist stuff at all?

I obviously don't know you. Young, blue-eyed, great physical shape? Then picking up girls on Ipanema beach is possible.

Otherwise, understand that a normal middle-class carioca is like a Spanish girl. You'll need some time to court her. She won't probably fuck you on the first date, although it's not impossible. But you only have 5 days for everything. I'd stick to a pay-for-play game plan.

And I would stay in Copacabana to be close to everything.

You'd have easy access to Monte Carlo, 583, Mabs, and I've read good things about Lux. Haven't been to Barbarella in ages and never to Calabria, so can't say one way or another.

The nearby Metro stations will quickly take you to cheaper Centro options like 4 x4, 65, and countless prives.

I can't imagine you'll be able to squeeze much else in your 5-day adventure.

Oh, and there is a beach, too.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Sinbad76;2520211]I have stayed in two different apartments and I could take girls everywhere, and I think you can bring in any apartment.[/QUOTE]I can assure you this is not the case. In the very least, one must check the policy on the Airbnb listing page -- some will explicitly prohibit "sex tourism" and unregistered guests in general. And even when no restrictions are listed, the doorman can create a problem for you.

[QUOTE=TShelby;2520079]Thank you, my friend!

In Rio we will spend 5 nights and then go to Pipa and Natal to meet him too. We have to squeeze everything to the max!

So from the 5 nights:

3 nights' accommodation in Ipanema.

1 night in Barra TransAmerica we would only go to spend one night, a whole day in the hotel.

1 night in CopaCabana, near the Mabs and Dolce Vita. How is Barbarella Boite and Kalabria?

If we already know the term Terma: the, we want to choose a good one.

To meet girls on the beach we want to go to the Ipanema beach between posts 9 and 10.

I also don't know if we'll have time for our first Copa583.

Thank you all very much for your help![/QUOTE]IMHO you are moving too many times [U]accommodations wise and wasting time doing so[/U]. Ipanema and Copacabana are essentially the same area totally WALKABLE (and if necessary, for time sake take cab or Uber to get around quickly) the two main Termas Monte Carlo and Centaurus are less than 10 minutes via cab and approx. 30 minutes walking between each other. See [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Termas+Centaurus+-+Rua+Canning+-+Ipanema,+Rio+de+Janeiro+-+State+of+Rio+de+Janeiro,+Brazil/Termas+Monte+Carlo+-+Rua+Hil%C3%A1rio+de+Gouv%C3%AAia,+19+-+Copacabana,+Rio+de+Janeiro+-+RJ,+22040-020,+Brazil/@-22.9769342,-43.1933448,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x9bd517c3c37355:0xa796182f36d5fc63!2m2!1d-43.1949477!2d-22.9850312!1m5!1m1!1s0x9bd55042ae1d55:0x772d11b3125c0df7!2m2!1d-43.1831536!2d-22.9695487!3e2]Google Map[/URL].

Mabs and Dolce Vita are a few blocks walk from Terma Monte Carlo.

To get to most other Termas like 4 x4 in the city you should take a cab or better yet Uber.

As Java Man mentioned Barbarellas is closed.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2520369]I can assure you this is not the case. In the very least, one must check the policy on the Airbnb listing page -- some will explicitly prohibit "sex tourism" and unregistered guests in general. And even when no restrictions are listed, the doorman can create a problem for you.[/QUOTE]This is good advice no matter where in the world you stay in an AirBnB. Even if not on the AirBnB listing page or [U]House Rules[/U] section. For added insurance ask the Host directly if you can have visitors over. Some people have had bad experiences ignoring the Host Rules.

It sounds like if you wanted you don't even have to leave you hotel.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2519621]Well, my trip is over. I will start by thanking vagabundo1 for the good time we had and apologize for not making it to VM and 4 x4 with him. Here is the why. I asked secret prive girl to go on a helicopter ride with me since I didn't want to pay for an empty seat or take some rando that I had no connection with. We did the helicopter tour and ate dinner. Then I asked for BBFS to which she agreed after some thought and talking. 3 sessions of bbfscip, half a fifth of gin, and dusk to dawn later we fell asleep. 450 for pernoite and she was reluctant to take my money but I insisted. She had to work at 10 am so at 9 the alarm woke us. I got her an uber and she was at work around 1020 am. At 11 I get a message saying she is leaving work because she wants to spend my last day with me. I think she quit but I did not inquire to deeply as it is none of my business. I was at TA waiting on a blonde dime at this point and tell her I won't be back to my praia casa until 1. She waits and meets me there. The blonde showed up at 1240 so I blocked her number and ghosted her. Pissed me off because we started talking at 1030. She agreed to 250/ HR. But I had better things ahead and she wasted my time because Duda was ready and agreed to anal but I put her off for the blonde. I checked out of TA and back at Praia casa and my secret is there within 5 minutes of me arriving. We spent the whole day and all evening in the bedroom. The only break was to eat for 40 minutes. It was unreal. I have bruises on my arms from her clinching so tightly during her climaxes. My hip hurts so bad I could hardly walk all day and my shoulder is tweaked from holding her by the hips and bouncing her for so long. My god is it all worth it. When it is time for me to go I ask her how much and she insists on me not paying her. So we agree that I give her a parting gift. We were both happy with that situation. She is a sweet girl and I do not know what lies ahead but she will probably end up in Miami at some point this year (circumstances allowing) since I am not able to swing another trip to Brasil but could do a long weekend in MIA.[/QUOTE]

Do the termas girls tend to grow their pubes out any? It's become an obsession in brothels in europe and women in united states to shave themselves bald. Bushes can be great though. Any centaurus or monte carlo Bush sightings? Hoping to enjoy some soon. Thanks!

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2520869]Do the termas girls tend to grow their pubes out any? It's become an obsession in brothels in europe and women in united states to shave themselves bald. Bushes can be great though. Any centaurus or monte carlo Bush sightings? Hoping to enjoy some soon. Thanks![/QUOTE]That was a 70's and 80's thing. It is not an obsession. It is hygiene and fashion. Maybe if you go to a termas deep in the Amazon you will find what you are looking for. The only chicks I have seen growing out pubic hair these days are ones that do not plan on being with a sex partner or those that are poorly educated and unsophisticated. You are not finding that in modern day city chicks.

Some US girls do grow them. It's rare. It feels like there would be some even if slightly unstylish (doesn't have to be a monster Bush but something is nice). I feel like it is slowly becoming accepted again though. Look at porn. It's starting to come back a little.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2520894]That was a 70's and 80's thing. It is not an obsession. It is hygiene and fashion. Maybe if you go to a termas deep in the Amazon you will find what you are looking for. The only chicks I have seen growing out pubic hair these days are ones that do not plan on being with a sex partner or those that are poorly educated and unsophisticated. You are not finding that in modern day city chicks.[/QUOTE]

Ok even if I were on trip 1 I would stay at.

Transamerica / mediterraneo flat.

Av gastão senges 395.

Indeed I plan to die here 124 years from now maybe at the condo across the street surrounded by my best 300 or 400 concubines and their kids and or clones.

You just need Uber.

The exchange rate is 5.49.

Just came from SP and had a good time. I've been posting alot on the SP forum and will be posting a lengthy post of my experience. First time in Brazil and In Rio so was looking for some advice. I will be posting my experience of course.

I really like Scandello (price tho was pretty high but it was classy) and the Boates in SP. Any places like that in Rio? Also am looking for some petite spinners and / or pale girls. I'm staying in Barra for 1 day and copa til the 18th.

1.

So far used Private55 to get a blond chick named Angel to my Airbnb in Barra. She wanted $600. I gave her $400 + Uber. She agreed.

Cute face with braces and alot of blush make up to give her that sexy doll look. Tanned with tan lines of course. Really nice girl and was very eager. Had a couple of back acne but nothing too bad. Finished on her face and she was happy with that. She did come to my condo with the most obvious clothing which got us some looks as I brought her up thru security.

2.

Went to centaurs and it was ok but comparing it to scandello it was a downgrade I feel. I thought it would be much bigger from all the reports I've read. Sauna, baths and showers on the first floor. Girls on 2nd and rooms on 3/4th floor. Went on Monday so it was me and another guy at 10 pm with 15 or so girls. I had two girls one named Rubi and another I can't remember but she looked like megan fox which was super hot. Paid $600 for entrance + Room + Girl (160+160+280) you pay more if you use a credit card it was like 700 or so. 2nd girl megan fox was $550. I used a credit card for her so the numbers went up. Got some girls some drinks which came out to $280. The first girl rubi was a blond branca who spoke good spanish and was very eager to please and natural. Got her number and might hit her up later. 2nd girl megan fox was super hot but didn't like anything to rough. Fake tits but nice ass and face. Great blowjob but couldn't deepthroat very well. Pretty good just had to be more sensual with her. No english and very broken spanish so could be better. Rooms are just ok. For the money not bad. A lot of good looking girls.

Centaurs was good but the bar where the girls hang out was pretty small and having all the girls preying on you right off the bat is kinda nerve wrecking tbh.

Looking for a more lowkey place like Scandello where you can just eat and drink a bit and walk around looking for your type. or some good boates.
I keep hearing about Prives. what are those? I know termas are like FKKs.
In the SP forum someone made a map of most of the places, does anyone have that for Rio? ive been looking thru the past 20 pages and have not seen it yet but i did see it a few months ago.

Thanks will be posting more as the days go by.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2520098]We've gotten a lot of flavor the past few weeks for staying in Barra. It's intriguing. The answer is not black and white. In Barra, you will be Ubering and taking the metro to other parts of the cities. Transamerica sounds good for finding on-line escorts living in your building. It's however not on the beach.

Read LoveLongTime's recent reports. It gives a good impression of staying in Barra. He booked a place on the beach and at TA.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but what is Transamerica and how does it helps to find on-line escorts? - and what is TA where booked a place?

Thanks.

[URL]https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/brazil/business-brazil/dollar-soars-and-real-sees-largest-slump-in-eighteen-years/[/URL]

What is the outlook?

Thanks for the report! Can you be more specific about pricing at Centaurus? Did each girl have a different price? And how long did you stay with the girl? Did she offer extras or were they included? Thanks! Going to Centaurus for first time soon and getting curious.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2521173]Just came from SP and had a good time. I've been posting alot on the SP forum and will be posting a lengthy post of my experience. First time in Brazil and In Rio so was looking for some advice. I will be posting my experience of course.

I really like Scandello (price tho was pretty high but it was classy) and the Boates in SP. Any places like that in Rio? Also am looking for some petite spinners and / or pale girls. I'm staying in Barra for 1 day and copa til the 18th.

1.

So far used Private55 to get a blond chick named Angel to my Airbnb in Barra. She wanted $600. I gave her $400 + Uber. She agreed.

Cute face with braces and alot of blush make up to give her that sexy doll look. Tanned with tan lines of course. Really nice girl and was very eager. Had a couple of back acne but nothing too bad. Finished on her face and she was happy with that. She did come to my condo with the most obvious clothing which got us some looks as I brought her up thru security.

2.

Went to centaurs and it was ok but comparing it to scandello it was a downgrade I feel. I thought it would be much bigger from all the reports I've read. Sauna, baths and showers on the first floor. Girls on 2nd and rooms on 3/4th floor. Went on Monday so it was me and another guy at 10 pm with 15 or so girls. I had two girls one named Rubi and another I can't remember but she looked like megan fox which was super hot. Paid $600 for entrance + Room + Girl (160+160+280) you pay more if you use a credit card it was like 700 or so. 2nd girl megan fox was $550. I used a credit card for her so the numbers went up. Got some girls some drinks which came out to $280. The first girl rubi was a blond branca who spoke good spanish and was very eager to please and natural. Got her number and might hit her up later. 2nd girl megan fox was super hot but didn't like anything to rough. Fake tits but nice ass and face. Great blowjob but couldn't deepthroat very well. Pretty good just had to be more sensual with her. No english and very broken spanish so could be better. Rooms are just ok. For the money not bad. A lot of good looking girls.

Centaurs was good but the bar where the girls hang out was pretty small and having all the girls preying on you right off the bat is kinda nerve wrecking tbh.

Looking for a more lowkey place like Scandello where you can just eat and drink a bit and walk around looking for your type. or some good boates.
I keep hearing about Prives. what are those? I know termas are like FKKs.
In the SP forum someone made a map of most of the places, does anyone have that for Rio? ive been looking thru the past 20 pages and have not seen it yet but i did see it a few months ago.

Thanks will be posting more as the days go by.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

Thank you all for your information. I haven't found or I overlook some important information.

I will be in Copacabana for a month or two (or three) running from winter in Europe, therefore my questions are for this area.

Could you advise me a bar or terma where are some black girls as well and there is a reasonable chance for English or Spanish? What I've got (I can be wrong), termas like Centaurus or Monte Carlo, where is a reasonable chance for English, are usually quite white.

Is smart to ask doorman / waiter / mamasan (dunno how it looks inside) for an advice which girls speak English or Spanish?

If I prefer bars over termas (I love beeer bars in Thailand), are there bars where girls are checked for STD or only in Termas and strip clubs?

Any advice for a good legit massage?

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2521204]Thanks for the report! Can you be more specific about pricing at Centaurus? Did each girl have a different price? And how long did you stay with the girl? Did she offer extras or were they included? Thanks! Going to Centaurus for first time soon and getting curious.[/QUOTE]No all the girls were 280 and the rooms were 160 but that was for 40 mins and with cash. You used credit card or debit it was like 100 reais or more. 1 hour was also more but I feel 40 is fine honestly. No extras. You just have to ask what she will or won't do. It does seem the girls here want you to buy them a drink so kinda annoying. The girls at scandello or at least the girls I picked only asked for a drink or food after I offered and it was like water and some appetizer that we shared. No bargaining or talking price so it's got that going for it.

Rihanna Noir has a father who was a negro and was a prisoner in Bangu, he's now dead.

Her mother too is dead. Her mother was a branca.

She never knew her old man.

The whole time, I banged her I said.

Vc quer suruba com pretos?

Vc quer 20 paus no seu buceta e cuzinha e boca.

Tudo homen goza endentro seu buceta duas vezes.

400 pernoite.

Priceless: saying shit that would be so incorrect as to make you a outcast, almost a brahma or untermentchen or sand negro in your own country.

/ s / Twain, Mark.

If you want that then Japanese girls and Chinese. You will also get some thai girls who are working either the local or japanese market. In China being shaved, or bald tiger, as they call it is looked at as being unhealthy that she isn't growing hair down there. Beyond that I can't explain it, but that's how its been explained to me. Was definitely common in Macao and Japan in my experience. But Brasil is famous for the brazillian wax, you aren't going to find much there.

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2520869]Do the termas girls tend to grow their pubes out any? It's become an obsession in brothels in europe and women in united states to shave themselves bald. Bushes can be great though. Any centaurus or monte carlo Bush sightings? Hoping to enjoy some soon. Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2521173]
I really like Scandello (price tho was pretty high but it was classy) and the Boates in SP. Any places like that in Rio?
I used a credit card for her so the numbers went up. A lot of good looking girls.
Centaurs was good but the bar where the girls hang out was pretty small and having all the girls preying on you right off the bat is kinda nerve wrecking tbh.
Looking for a more lowkey place like Scandello where you can just eat and drink a bit and walk around looking for your type. or some good boates.
I keep hearing about Prives. what are those? I know termas are like FKKs.
[/QUOTE]Boates vs termas and Rio doesn't have anything compare to Scandallo.

It is my personal preference and you should use cash instead of credit cards in Rio for safety reasons.

Not sure about Copa termas but in Centro termas, you can order food appetizers.

Prives are like massage parlors with sex where in Sao Paulo, it refers as clinicas.

Below is rio map and enjoy your trip.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-22.957134397024%2C-43.277909419849045&z=13&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH[/URL]

Paris Cafe, Solarium.

Both way better.

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2521362]Boates vs termas and Rio doesn't have anything compare to Scandallo.

It is my personal preference and you should use cash instead of credit cards in Rio for safety reasons.

Not sure about Copa termas but in Centro termas, you can order food appetizers.

Prives are like message parlors with sex where in Sao Paulo, it refers as clinicas.

Below is rio map and enjoy your trip.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-22.957134397024%2C-43.277909419849045&z=13&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2521321]Rihanna Noir has a father who was a negro and was a prisoner in Bangu, he's now dead.[/QUOTE]That is not the chick that I saw on youtube the other day is it? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38jgN4ilNjw[/URL].

Well my Rihanna noir is 19 not 28.

And she came to my saying.

Vc quer 20 paus no seu buceta e cuzinha e boca.

And she wears a gold pendant with a miniature AK47, which was preceded by a previous automatic pistol gold pendant.

But no, it's not the same girl. I'd like to have a dupla with the girl in the video, thanks for the link!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2521369]That is not the chick that I saw on youtube the other day is it? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38jgN4ilNjw[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2521362]Boates vs termas and Rio doesn't have anything compare to Scandallo.

It is my personal preference and you should use cash instead of credit cards in Rio for safety reasons.

Not sure about Copa termas but in Centro termas, you can order food appetizers.

Prives are like massage parlors with sex where in Sao Paulo, it refers as clinicas.

Below is rio map and enjoy your trip.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-22.957134397024%2C-43.277909419849045&z=13&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for the info and quick reply!

Shame rio doesn't have anything like Scandello you'd think they would given the very touristy location. SP was nice but all you could really do was go to the malls, eat and fuck while rio seems to offer so much more adventures and scenic locations. Feels very relaxed and a nice upscale place would be a great addition. Just came from an outting and will be posting.

Looking for some non pros, newbies so hopefully I can score something like that here.

Today, I went to pick up the aforementioned rihanna noire.

I poked my head into the club 116. It was popping!

I went to the Hotel Atlantico, and the front desk stopped me from going up to the pool. Oh well.

I went to T31. Only 2 sad looking garotas.

I went to another secret terma (I will look up the address soon enough).

It too was popping.

Then I went to central and collected the 19 year old rihanna doppelganger and came back to Transamerica, and creampied her twice. We ate pizza from the excellent borda e lenha (bacon and gorgonzola rocks).

Look men, you can do what you want, but this is the place to be.

Now, every man who gets his dick wet from Henry the 8th thinks he is breeding a queen of England for all eternity, and is thus the most egotistical person in the world.

But I believe.

I want to believe.

Just came back from another late night exploring: proven worse than the 1st. Thanks to Oldbelly69 that could change so thanks in advance!

1. Monte Carlo.

Heard a lot of great things about this club so got there at 10:30 pm and it was pretty dead. There was 5 girls and like 4 guys and didn't really like any of the girls. I go to the bar and grab a soda because I knew I wasn't going to stay very long and even tho my Portuguese is non existent for the most part I could make out the fact that the girls at the bar were laughing that I ordered a non-alcoholic drink which was pretty rude. There was a branca that looked ok but I didn't like the vibe and wasn't going to settle just because. Left after maybe 10 mins. Really disappointed and don't think I will be returning. The fee to get in was 120 girls were like 400 or so with room for 40 mins. Sorry I completely wrote this off my head after my experience. 100 for just a massage. Was thinking about just getting a massage from the branca as someone else stated here you are better off going to a real massage place or terapistas. 1st floor you get your locker and change to robe. 2nd floor is sauna and bathroom. 3rd floor is bar with girls. Bar area is kinda small again that seems to be the case all over. All you can really do is order drinks, talk to the girls and order them drinks. Seems the girls here only speak portuguese unlike centauros where they spoke some spanish and a bit english. Better selection of girls over there too.

2. 4 x4.

Got some food near monte and headed to 4 x4. Got there around 12:30 am. Entry was 70 and you pay when you leave with any drinks you ordered plus girls. If I remember it was 290? Or so for a girl for 40 mins with the room. Again pretty dead. Only 5 girls and 3 of them were with other guys and the last two weren't exactly my type. Had kinda a nice vibe to it. I can see it being good when it is busy. The bartender went over to one of the girls and made her introduce herself and have her tell me if I had any questions or whatever to let her know. Pretty friendly. Was going to talk to a cute spinner but two guys friends of hers came and she started smoking and drinking and talking to them, so no girls were available. After a few minutes I called it a night and started to leave. I went to pay my entrance fee and the spinner comes running to me asking me why I was leaving. Told her I was tired and she tired her hardest to get me to stay but wasn't worth it to me. I'm in Barra so it's a good ride home and I called my uber already.

Kinda slow but at least the management seems to care that you don't leave completely disappointed. Guess it's better to come around 8 pm or so?

So far it seems that things die down after 11 pm or so. Solarium closes at 12, which I will go tomorrow to check out. Centauros seems to be the best termas so far. All the girls seemed very doable and friendly and they have a girl bring you up and show you the ropes. Good amount of girls too. So far from what I read from LLT and others it's really hit or miss and you have to bounce around sometimes which is a bit frustrating to say the least.

Will be doing more tourist stuff so any recommendations would be nice! Want to explore this beautiful city as well. SP really got me longing for some Sun and Beach.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2521400]
So far it seems that things die down after 11 pm or so. Solarium closes at 12, which I will go tomorrow to check out.
[/QUOTE]Why go so late? Most places start to get busy around 5-6 PM. That's prime time. Or at least it was back in November. Monte Carlo had about 15-20 girls around that time.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2521405]Why go so late? Most places start to get busy around 5-6 PM. That's prime time. Or at least it was back in November. Monte Carlo had about 15-20 girls around that time.[/QUOTE]Didn't know that. I was out at the beach in posto 12 enjoying the beauty of Barra. Got home, took a shower and did some research / posing on the forums and headed out. It was a long day so took a breather before going out. I'm in barra too so it's a 35 min drive. I will be heading out earlier. Looking for petite spinners so idk if you know which termas or prives would be best for that?

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2521400]Will be doing more tourist stuff so any recommendations would be nice! Want to explore this beautiful city as wel.[/QUOTE]For 'tourist stuff', our personal favorite is the Catete Palace, the former Presidential residence from back when, you know, Rio was the capital of Brazil. It's now a Museum, and one with an extraordinary exhibit documenting the death of President Getulio Vargas. The American equivalent of this would be an exhibit from That Day in Dallas, complete with the death car, Jackie's bloodstained dress, and the murder weapon (well, one of them). Unfortunately, while it may not be open at the moment, the grounds are worth checking out. Note: there's a fine little folklore museum right next door. For anyone who collects Brazilian artensenato, the collection here provides a baseline that sets the standard.

Really appreciate you taking the time to share your stories. Looks like Centaurus might be best for me too; I speak mostly only English. Perhaps like the guy below says that going mid day would give you more girls to choose from is a good idea. Did Centaurus have a valuables safe that seemed secure? I am a little concerned about that. It's funny they laughed at you buying non alcoholic drinks. That's exactly what I will be doing too. So far have blowjobs been without condom? I am used to German FKK's so this is going to be all new to me. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2521400]Just came back from another late night exploring: proven worse than the 1st. Thanks to Oldbelly69 that could change so thanks in advance!

1. Monte Carlo.

Heard a lot of great things about this club so got there at 10:30 pm and it was pretty dead. There was 5 girls and like 4 guys and didn't really like any of the girls. I go to the bar and grab a soda because I knew I wasn't going to stay very long and even tho my Portuguese is non existent for the most part I could make out the fact that the girls at the bar were laughing that I ordered a non-alcoholic drink which was pretty rude. There was a branca that looked ok but I didn't like the vibe and wasn't going to settle just because. Left after maybe 10 mins. Really disappointed and don't think I will be returning. The fee to get in was 120 girls were like 400 or so with room for 40 mins. Sorry I completely wrote this off my head after my experience. 100 for just a massage. Was thinking about just getting a massage from the branca as someone else stated here you are better off going to a real massage place or terapistas. 1st floor you get your locker and change to robe. 2nd floor is sauna and bathroom. 3rd floor is bar with girls. Bar area is kinda small again that seems to be the case all over. All you can really do is order drinks, talk to the girls and order them drinks. Seems the girls here only speak portuguese unlike centauros where they spoke some spanish and a bit english. Better selection of girls over there too.

2. 4 x4.

Got some food near monte and headed to 4 x4. Got there around 12:30 am. Entry was 70 and you pay when you leave with any drinks you ordered plus girls. If I remember it was 290? Or so for a girl for 40 mins with the room. Again pretty dead. Only 5 girls and 3 of them were with other guys and the last two weren't exactly my type. Had kinda a nice vibe to it. I can see it being good when it is busy. The bartender went over to one of the girls and made her introduce herself and have her tell me if I had any questions or whatever to let her know. Pretty friendly. Was going to talk to a cute spinner but two guys friends of hers came and she started smoking and drinking and talking to them, so no girls were available. After a few minutes I called it a night and started to leave. I went to pay my entrance fee and the spinner comes running to me asking me why I was leaving. Told her I was tired and she tired her hardest to get me to stay but wasn't worth it to me. I'm in Barra so it's a good ride home and I called my uber already.

Kinda slow but at least the management seems to care that you don't leave completely disappointed. Guess it's better to come around 8 pm or so?

So far it seems that things die down after 11 pm or so. Solarium closes at 12, which I will go tomorrow to check out. Centauros seems to be the best termas so far. All the girls seemed very doable and friendly and they have a girl bring you up and show you the ropes. Good amount of girls too. So far from what I read from LLT and others it's really hit or miss and you have to bounce around sometimes which is a bit frustrating to say the least.

Will be doing more tourist stuff so any recommendations would be nice! Want to explore this beautiful city as well. SP really got me longing for some Sun and Beach.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Avivis;2521174]Sorry, but what is Transamerica and how does it helps to find on-line escorts? - and what is TA where booked a place?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Mediterrâneo Flat (formerly Transamerica) been discussed at length the last few weeks. It's a large building in Barra where you can book rooms for short or long stays. Many escorts live there. So when you are texting with them you might find them right in your building. Some escorts specifically mention their location in their ads. There's also the chance you might find something at the pool that strikes your fancy. I have no direct experience with TA, but I wouldn't simply hang around waiting for girls in the lobby or pool.

Vagabundo recommends it for first-timers. I still think the Copacabana / Ipanema corridor is best for Rio newbies. Most newbies seem to visit for a week or less. I want to walk to the beach and have dozens of restaurants around the corner. There are also easy to get to sex venues.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2521405]Why go so late? Most places start to get busy around 5-6 PM. That's prime time. Or at least it was back in November. Monte Carlo had about 15-20 girls around that time.[/QUOTE]Termas are generally terrible in the afternoon. Sometimes we arrive early, hang out at 4 x 4 drinking and waiting for the girls to arrive. If you see a hotty, grab her so you're her first session. Then of course you can stay and recharge for another round.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2521400]Just came back from another late night exploring: proven worse than the 1st. Thanks to Oldbelly69 that could change so thanks in advance!

1. Monte Carlo.

100 for just a massage. Was thinking about just getting a massage from the branca as someone else stated here you are better off going to a real massage place or terapistas........

Will be doing more tourist stuff so any recommendations would be nice! Want to explore this beautiful city as well. SP really got me longing for some Sun and Beach.[/QUOTE]Yikes! I had a massage at Monte Carlo once. The woman lightly rubbed oil on me then poured warm water on me. A Thanksgiving turkey gets a better rub down. Termas massage never again.

Stick to the tried and true when doing tourist stuff. Corcovado (the Christ statue) is a must in my opinion. Sugarloaf Mountain is fine, but if you choose one choose Corcovado. I like taking the old tram up to the old Santa Teresa neighborhood above Centro for lunch. Bring a date! She will be impressed. If I remember right, some restaurants have views. The now well-known Selaron Steps are in Santa Teresa. The Lapa Arches and the Modern Cathedral are all near where the Santa Teresa historic tram line begins.

Secondary recommendations: The modern Rio Cathedral, the Sambadrome, Niteroi Contemporary Art Museum (a bit far). If you like old cafes you can go to Confeitaria Colombo before hitting Termas 4 x4.

As other members are guiding, prime time at Termas seems to be from 5-6 pm to about 9-10 pm. Their bread and butter clientele (especially outside Copa and Ipanema) tend to be businessmen who drop by after work. They tell their wives and girlfriends they are going out with work colleagues. That is partially true because the locals tend to make termas a social thing with work buddies. They don't mind foreigners.

I would advise hitting up 4 x4 on a Friday evening. You know the girls will have Saturday and Sunday off as 4 x4 is closed.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2521551]Mediterrneo Flat (formerly Transamerica) been discussed at length the last few weeks. It's a large building in Barra where you can book rooms for short or long stays.[/QUOTE]Has the most efficient and effective way of booking rooms in this place been discussed at any length here? Sorry if I missed something, but recollect a recommendation to not use agoda, [URL]hotels.com[/URL] and such.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2521400]Just came back from another late night exploring: proven worse than the 1st.
[/QUOTE]Do not forget to visit solarium. Believe you can sign up for their mailing list and get discount on the entry.

[URL]http://www.solarium.com.br/[/URL]

Can you give us a description of what you've experienced at Solarium?

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2521594]Do not forget to visit solarium. Believe you can sign up for their mailing list and get discount on the entry.

[URL]http://www.solarium.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]

After January 26th, everyone (including American citizens) must have a negative Covid test in order to enter the USA. Does anyone know where in Rio, you can take a rapid test? (I think the results have to be under 72 hours). If you test positive, I assume you must be quarantined in Brazil until you test negative.

Testing positive is going to suck for people who can't work remotely and must cover room and board for 2-3 weeks. We won't even mention the torture of seeing hot girls every day and knowing that you can't indulge because you are supposed to be quarantined.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2521400] ... Will be doing more tourist stuff so any recommendations would be nice! Want to explore this beautiful city as well. SP really got me longing for some Sun and Beach.[/QUOTE]Dude, if you're flying solo w/o a wingman and up for some cool touristy sightseeing, then I'd recommend perhaps considering hooking up with a chica (or two) that you like (and can trust to some degree), then checkout some of the "cidade maravilhosa" (the marvelous city), that is Rio, with them though their eyes, as well. If she's worth her salt as a "carioca" (native woman of Rio), she'll steer you clear of most tourist pitfalls and guide you to some gems.

Granted it works better with some spoken Portuguese, but most guys do just fine with Google Translate on their phones. Plus I find, that if the connection between us is enriched during our excursions, the sex afterwards is usually very very passionate. Anywho... Something to consider.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2521618]After January 26th, everyone (including American citizens) must have a negative Covid test in order to enter the USA. Does anyone know where in Rio, you can take a rapid test? (I think the results have to be under 72 hours). If you test positive, I assume you must be quarantined in Brazil until you test negative.
Testing positive is going to suck for people who can't work remotely and must cover room and board for 2-3 weeks. We won't even mention the torture of seeing hot girls every day and knowing that you can't indulge because you are supposed to be quarantined.[/QUOTE]Lots of places. There's one at Santos Dumont, one on Siquiero Campos near the metro, another on Avenida Nossa S Copacabana near Cassino Atlantico.

I would gladly stay the rest of the winter with the exchange rate being what it is, but changed my flight to get back in the USA on the 25th, just in case something ridiculous like a test result positive for covid, or some other more restrictive rule change gets put into play. By the way, United still has open seats in Polaris, but they're not likely to last much longer.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2521642]Dude, if you're flying solo w/o a wingman and up for some cool touristy sightseeing, then I'd recommend perhaps considering hooking up with a chica (or two) that you like (and can trust to some degree), then checkout some of the "cidade maravilhosa" (the marvelous city), that is Rio, with them though their eyes, as well. If she's worth her salt as a "carioca" (native woman of Rio), she'll steer you clear of most tourist pitfalls and guide you to some gems.

Granted it works better with some spoken Portuguese, but most guys do just fine with Google Translate on their phones. Plus I find, that if the connection between us is enriched during our excursions, the sex afterwards is usually very very passionate. Anywho... Something to consider.[/QUOTE]I like this idea. Definitely something I plan to arrange when I eventually make it to Rio. I was thinking that Tinder would be a good place to start but are you more so suggesting getting numbers from the girls at the termas or PA? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2521618]After January 26th, everyone (including American citizens) must have a negative Covid test in order to enter the USA. Does anyone know where in Rio, you can take a rapid test? (I think the results have to be under 72 hours). If you test positive, I assume you must be quarantined in Brazil until you test negative.

Testing positive is going to suck for people who can't work remotely and must cover room and board for 2-3 weeks. We won't even mention the torture of seeing hot girls every day and knowing that you can't indulge because you are supposed to be quarantined.[/QUOTE]I have done mine at ([URL]https://www.richet.com.br/[/URL]). I used them to do my PCR covid test last Saturday. If you choose the PCR GeneExpert, you should get your results after 24 hours. They are open Monday till Saturday. Contact them for a booking, it is better one week before as they are quickly fully booked.

PCR:

Private examination fee: are $340.00.

Result deadline: 3 working days.

PCR GeneExpert.

Private examination fee: are $420.00.

Result deadline: Next day after collection until 20:00 hs.

IgG / IgM serology:

Private examination fee: are $280.00.

Result deadline: up to 2 working days.

If you choose home collection, you will be subject to a home fee of are $50.00. There is no charge for scheduling in units.

I like being a block from the beach, and so do the many who are at Transamerica.

It is not just the bar here, it is Av Gastao Senges 185 for lunch, dinner, and the stroll in between.

In the beginning there was karlamodels, and it was good. You could stay at Motel Malaga or Motel Barao do Flamengo, and the girls would stroll from their agency, Karlamodels or the other I forgot.

You can do the same at Transamerica.

You look for the girl on the sites.

[URL]barraviprio.com[/URL]

Photoaccompantes.

And you go to their room or vice versa.

OK, I will concede it is probably better for first time Brazil trip persons to be in Zona Sul proper, but I am saying it is possible for the adventurous first timer to stay in Transamerica.

In any case, I have Nina Deponca over tonight.

I don't get anything for promoting Transamerica, I don't own stock or anything. And I was just taking a tip from safado69. I'm not getulio Vargas, just another gringo.

They're cleaning the pool, so hope springs eternal.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2521551]Mediterrneo Flat (formerly Transamerica) been discussed at length the last few weeks. It's a large building in Barra where you can book rooms for short or long stays. Many escorts live there. So when you are texting with them you might find them right in your building. Some escorts specifically mention their location in their ads. There's also the chance you might find something at the pool that strikes your fancy. I have no direct experience with TA, but I wouldn't simply hang around waiting for girls in the lobby or pool.

Vagabundo recommends it for first-timers. I still think the Copacabana / Ipanema corridor is best for Rio newbies. Most newbies seem to visit for a week or less. I want to walk to the beach and have dozens of restaurants around the corner. There are also easy to get to sex venues.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2521563]Yikes! I had a massage at Monte Carlo once. The woman lightly rubbed oil on me then poured warm water on me. A Thanksgiving turkey gets a better rub down. Termas massage never again.

Stick to the tried and true when doing tourist stuff. Corcovado (the Christ statue) is a must in my opinion. Sugarloaf Mountain is fine, but if you choose one choose Corcovado. I like taking the old tram up to the old Santa Teresa neighborhood above Centro for lunch. Bring a date! She will be impressed. If I remember right, some restaurants have views. The now well-known Selaron Steps are in Santa Teresa. The Lapa Arches and the Modern Cathedral are all near where the Santa Teresa historic tram line begins.

Secondary recommendations: The modern Rio Cathedral, the Sambadrome, Niteroi Contemporary Art Museum (a bit far). If you like old cafes you can go to Confeitaria Colombo before hitting Termas 4 x4.

As other members are guiding, prime time at Termas seems to be from 5-6 pm to about 9-10 pm. Their bread and butter clientele (especially outside Copa and Ipanema) tend to be businessmen who drop by after work. They tell their wives and girlfriends they are going out with work colleagues. That is partially true because the locals tend to make termas a social thing with work buddies. They don't mind foreigners.

I would advise hitting up 4 x4 on a Friday evening. You know the girls will have Saturday and Sunday off as 4 x4 is closed.[/QUOTE]Down to Santa Teresa, Niteroi and Confetaria Colombo. The Niemeyer-built Niteroi Museum is a sight to behold, although I loved it more from the outside, LOL. I would take a ferry to Niteroi, it's a joy on a good day.

I agree that Corcovado is more impressive than Sugarloaf, although the views from Sugarloaf are nothing short of spectacular, but it often gets cloudy. So I would go to Corcovado first. The workers will tell you if there are clouds, so you may want to go to Sugarloaf instead. And the interiors of the St. Benedict monastery are shouldn't be missed IMHO.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2521581]Has the most efficient and effective way of booking rooms in this place been discussed at any length here? Sorry if I missed something, but recollect a recommendation to not use agoda, [URL]hotels.com[/URL] and such.[/QUOTE]Vagabundo might help you get in touch with some hosts. If not, there are many listings on Airbnb.

Is anybody returning to the US from Brazil required to quarantine for 14 days? It's required by the CDC but is it enforced?

If you PM me, I will send you the number of my landlord.

I will post it here, but I am not sure if it will be deleted by our faithful moderator.

In airbnb or other similar just look for address av gastao senges 395, and Mediterraneo Flats or Transamerica.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2521807]Vagabundo might help you get in touch with some hosts. If not, there are many listings on Airbnb.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2521822]Is anybody returning to the US from Brazil required to quarantine for 14 days? It's required by the CDC but is it enforced?[/QUOTE]My neighbors came back from Bangladesh last month and the CDC called them 3 times during the 2 week quarantine to make sure that they were home. I don't know what would have happened if they weren't home to answer the phone, but I wouldn't want to find out either.

What are the best options in El Centro for a quick PCR test to be able to board a plane to go back to the US?

If you are mongering at Vila Mimosa or the darkside (north of Av Getulio Vargas in centro), you need a love motel to go to (instead of the shit room at VM), you can go to Motel San Diego, which happens to be closest to the central transportation hub.

Biz card attached, so you can download it to your phone, and text it to your favorite Rihanna sex doll clone.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2521732]I like being a block from the beach, and so do the many who are at Transamerica.

It is not just the bar here, it is Av Gastao Senges 185 for lunch, dinner, and the stroll in between.

In the beginning there was karlamodels, and it was good. You could stay at Motel Malaga or Motel Barao do Flamengo, and the girls would stroll from their agency, Karlamodels or the other I forgot.

You can do the same at Transamerica.

You look for the girl on the sites..[/QUOTE]

How could that even work? Some don't have landline phones.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2521911]My neighbors came back from Bangladesh last month and the CDC called them 3 times during the 2 week quarantine to make sure that they were home. I don't know what would have happened if they weren't home to answer the phone, but I wouldn't want to find out either.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2521928]How could that even work? Some don't have landline phones.[/QUOTE]True, I haven't had a land line in over 10 years. Anyone recently returned to the US from Brazil?

OK, here's my patrol report with my best wingman yet.

I will use the numbering from the previous Barra patrol, which is reference below:

We went first to checkpoint 1 where we started, ie Transamerica.

Next we went to checkpoint 4 and 7, which is Perola Negra boate. It is simply the best boate in Brazil. OK, every man with a penis and fingers loves to debate this shit, but it just is. My wingman, mandingoblack agrees, though Vila Mimosa, which I call checkpoint 8 has better young girls, and of course at a better, lower price point (more on that below). At Perola Negra boate, I got several numbers, and some girls held out for doing a session first at the boate. I will actually go and and do that. Pricing is 250 reais for half hour. They also ask for a high caixina to give out a number in the club, like 50 reais instead of 20. I hate bargaining with young, stupid but stupidly hot women. So, we left and went to.

Checkpoint 9, which is Terma 31, address alcantra machado 31 in centro. We went up, popped our heads in quickly and there were 5 f'uglies, so we left. We didn't even pay the cover of 10 reais. I guess I am a familiar face, and I have taken several of my top girls out of the club.

Checkpoint 10 was the now not so secret terma, Clube 116, rua do concecaio 116. I got some numbers. We blew out of there in 30 minutes.

Checkpoint 8 is the infamous Villa Mimosa. We got several numbers there, including some super hot talent that my wingman had already done.

We patrolled North out of the entrance to the VM triangle. We walked several blocks, in part because there are a lot of super hot street walkers. Obviously they don't have to give up 50% of their price to the house working at VM. My best girls (Ana Foxxx, and Monique Jada Fire, are VM girls, and both have in common that they have lost their cell phones, which tells you how violent this part of town is.).

Checkpoint 11. We walked up as far as a hostel / sex motel, with again, lots of those street walkers out on the front, and using that location. I call that checkpoint 11, Rua Jose Eugenio 24. They have rooms there for 15 reais for the half hour and up.

I had a overnight with Nina Deponca last night, and I am pissed at her for smoking in my room, which of course gets passed on to me. I am on the verge of firing her. It has been a usual week of overnights for me with one on Monday, and then nina deponca on Tuesday. Today, Wednesday night / Thurs was my night off since I already fucked in the morning Wednesday, and I liked the pussy patrol with Mandingo black who is a awesome wingman.

All is well.

Reference.

1. So, today, LLT came over to checkpoint 1, IE, av gastao senges 395, where I chilled for the superspreader holiday event.

2. We ubered to Vila Mimosa, checkpoint 2. Nothing was happening. I got a number of a negra, but it was not a target worthy of a warshot.

3. We ubered to checkpoint 3, 4 x 4, IE, Buenos Aires 44, and sadly, our temple of the procession of the Lady of the fleshy clit was closed. We prayed and changed uber destination to checkpoint 1.

4. Along the ride we changed destination to checkpoint 4, IE, Olegario Maciel in Barra, which was hopping. Like the place to be. After some foot patrols, we settled in for a meal at Na Brasa Colombia, which is at the intersection of Olegario Maciel and the Atlantic Ocean. For those challenged by map reading, you don't deserve to get laid anyway. As we say, I can fix many things, I can't fix stupid. There we dined like Brazilians. I almost leaned over and got a number from a juicy morena target whose bunda beckoned, but she was with her mother and aunt, and we were not blues brothers enough to ask, "how much for the little girls" while on a "mission from god" (small G). We contemplated trying to sit down with a few juicy bundas but my wingman demurred, "they probably will ask 1000 reais each".

Local intel sources stated a real boate is on the Atlantic, to the East. That boate on further patrolling is "Perola Negra" which is a house at _ 400. (forgot the name of the street that is avenida Atlantica in Barra).

5. Then we ubered over to checkpoint 5, IE, Praia dos amadores. I got two negra numbers there. One -- the first -- was a mother with her little kid. My wingman, being ruthless, said, "get her number" like that scene from animal house, the devil on the shoulder saying "fuck her" . She has a very nice little negra bundinha (which I prefer to a bundao). Her friend has big negra seios. Numbers were gained. We then patrolled around praia do amadores. This is a good spot, and within an easy stroll of Ibis.

6. Then we ubered back to Transamerica, checkpoint 1. Then we ubered to Checkpoint 6, a boate indicated on google maps by the name of panteras dos recreio. It is in a vila mimosa ish area just inland from Posto 12. Wingman and I entered the apartment building and went to the room (109) and there was no answer. There was a room on the 4th floor with the usual colors of a boate visible from the street. Wingman was not in favor of going up to the 5th floor, so I agreed to head back to the street, and patrol to Posto 12. The hopping bar there is the package store / ice (gelo) store on the corner. We spoke to some obvious garota de programas on the street, but my wingman not wanting to ask for numbers from certain targets, we refrained, then ubered back to.

7. Checkpoint 7, paris cafe, which was closed, so we ubered to.

Checkpoint 4, where we foot patrolled to perola negra boate, which was also closed. From there I ubered back to checkpoint 1, and wingman ubered to Copacabana.

As expected during the holidays, most mongering sites are closed. Which is just as well. Fucking is just work. Have some sympathy, have some taste.

Haha.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2517496]A claro sim can be bought at a mall, like Gavea Shopping for 100 reais for 50 gb per month.

I've used this to supplement the bad internet at Transamerica.

So, today, LLT came over to checkpoint 1, ie, av gastao senges 395, where I chilled for the superspreader holiday event.

We ubered to Vila Mimosa, checkpoint 2. Nothing was happening. I got a number of a negra, but it was not a target worthy of a warshot.

We ubered to checkpoint 3, 4 x 4, IE, Buenos Aires 44, and sadly, our temple of the procession of the Lady of the fleshy clit was closed. We prayed and changed uber destination to checkpoint 1.

Along the ride we changed destination to checkpoint 4, IE, Olegario Maciel in Barra, which was hopping. Like the place to be. After some foot patrols, we settled in for a meal at Na Brasa Colombia, which is at the intersection of Olegario Maciel and the Atlantic Ocean.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2521822]Is anybody returning to the US from Brazil required to quarantine for 14 days? It's required by the CDC but is it enforced?[/QUOTE]I came back to the US from Brazil over a week and a half ago. No one's checked up on me or bothered me. Once you pass customs, it's smooth sailing.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2521914]If you are mongering at Vila Mimosa or the darkside (north of Av Getulio Vargas in centro), you need a love motel to go to (instead of the shit room at VM), you can go to Motel San Diego, which happens to be closest to the central transportation hub.[/QUOTE]
In the case of VM you also have Hotel Canario on Rua da Cear, very close to VM.

You'll find it on map in this post:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1143546&viewfull=1#post1143546[/url]

Sperto is right, and I appreciate his detailed reports with maps, which I learned to be a RIo monger from in 2011, which was my 4th year coming to Rio and Brazil.

In fact, after my wingman and I left VM last night as I detailed in another report we walked up north on rua ceara, as can be seen on some of the maps I have screenshotted.

We walked towards rua Jose Eugenio, which is where that hostel I detailed in a report is located. THis route of walking north out of Rua Ceara, then left on Rua Jose Eugenio until the hostel has many many many very good quality street walkers (who if they find a client on the street, most in cars which pick them up, do not have to pay half of the money their pussy or ass or mouth makes to the casa in vila mimosa). Many of these street girls are "on their way" literally to VM, but stay on their feet for that extra 50% of their salary which is hard earned of course. Many of these girls are 18 or 19, live in caixis or zona norte, and 50% have at least one child, and 25% have no cell phone (which is why wolves can pick them off by getting their facebook or instagram). Life is nasty brutish and short in the jungle that is all of Brazil.

I also screenshotted the area around VM from several levels of magnification because.

You can see that Hotel San Diego is a far walk but easy uber from VM. The advantage of Hotel San Diego is that it is literally half a block from Central station which has a hub for the supervia light rail to all of Rio and its outlying areas, like Campo Grande, where some of the best girls like Alexia Belucci / ingra of 4 x4 lived, and Central is a central point on all the Metro lines underground, and Central is a hub or rodoviaria for all the surface bus lines.

Yesterday, after the overnight with Nina Deponca, I took a uber back up to Caixis with her. She scored some tabacco substitute. I took a nice bus back to Rio centro, where I got a 20 reais haircut at Central, and reckoned into Hotel San Diego, on a back street, Rua Senador Pompeio. By going to these areas where few gringos go you realize that the amounts of money you pay are really very large amounts of money in Zona Norte. The best prices for all household essentials like very cheap but functional blue tooth speakers for the beach can be had for $35 reais -- the same speakers will be sold by the foot mobile vendor on Copa for two times that.

The other motels near Vila Mimosa can readily be seen. My favorite always is Malaga, which has the best ambiance with the excellent restaurant, Aconchega Carioca, just down the street.

Thanks for the feedback. It would be nice to know the actual number of the street address for motel Canario, Rua Ceara?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2522147]In the case of VM you also have Hotel Canario on Rua da Cear, very close to VM.

You'll find it on map in this post:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1143546&viewfull=1#post1143546[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2522151]It would be nice to know the actual number of the street address for motel Canario, Rua Ceara?[/QUOTE]Rua Ceará 221. It's impossible to miss when leaving VM.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149294&d=1302444512[/URL]

A better PDF-map ("Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map") in:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1143546&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1143546.

P. S If the newbies need to orientate themselfes in VM:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149295&d=1302444580[/URL]

Thanks a lot for your description.

I can't wait to discover vila Mimosa.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2522151]Sperto is right, and I appreciate his detailed reports with maps, which I learned to be a RIo monger from in 2011, which was my 4th year coming to Rio and Brazil.

In fact, after my wingman and I left VM last night as I detailed in another report we walked up north on rua ceara, as can be seen on some of the maps I have screenshotted.

We walked towards rua Jose Eugenio, which is where that hostel I detailed in a report is located. THis route of walking north out of Rua Ceara, then left on Rua Jose Eugenio until the hostel has many many many very good quality street walkers (who if they find a client on the street, most in cars which pick them up, do not have to pay half of the money their pussy or ass or mouth makes to the casa in vila mimosa). Many of these street girls are "on their way" literally to VM, but stay on their feet for that extra 50% of their salary which is hard earned of course. Many of these girls are 18 or 19, live in caixis or zona norte, and 50% have at least one child, and 25% have no cell phone (which is why wolves can pick them off by getting their facebook or instagram). Life is nasty brutish and short in the jungle that is all of Brazil.

I also screenshotted the area around VM from several levels of magnification because.

You can see that Hotel San Diego is a far walk but easy uber from VM. The advantage of Hotel San Diego is that it is literally half a block from Central station which has a hub for the supervia light rail to all of Rio and its outlying areas, like Campo Grande, where some of the best girls like Alexia Belucci / ingra of 4 x4 lived, and Central is a central point on all the Metro lines underground, and Central is a hub or rodoviaria for all the surface bus lines.[/QUOTE]

Many say it is dangerous for a gringo to go to VM. What do you think?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2522203]Rua Cear 221. It's impossible to miss when leaving VM.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149294&d=1302444512[/URL]

A better PDF-map ("Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map") in:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1143546&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1143546.

P. S If the newbies need to orientate themselfes in VM:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149295&d=1302444580[/URL][/QUOTE]

I think you may be incorrect here as to the source of the calls as there is no national quarantine order any such quarantine is handled at the local level. Least that is my read of this information page on the cdc website. If there some type of quarantine for travel after Brazil could you kindly post the source of that? More likely the calls were from some local health official and likely they are being targeted for being "foreign" looking. There are quarantine guidelines for all sorts of states and municipalities but no one is actively enforcing them.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/quarantine.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bravo;2521911]My neighbors came back from Bangladesh last month and the CDC called them 3 times during the 2 week quarantine to make sure that they were home. I don't know what would have happened if they weren't home to answer the phone, but I wouldn't want to find out either.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;2522284]I think you may be incorrect here as to the source of the calls as there is no national quarantine order any such quarantine is handled at the local level. Least that is my read of this information page on the cdc website. If there some type of quarantine for travel after Brazil could you kindly post the source of that? More likely the calls were from some local health official and likely they are being targeted for being "foreign" looking. There are quarantine guidelines for all sorts of states and municipalities but no one is actively enforcing them.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/quarantine.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I am going by what they told me, Whether it was the CDC, NYC or Donald Trump who called, they were checked up on to make sure they were staying in the home.

[QUOTE=Pythagore;2522273]Many say it is dangerous for a gringo to go to VM. What do you think?[/QUOTE]Very dangerous. Some girls are topless, or even nude, and will grab you hard when you pass and say dirty things. Scary.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2522318]Very dangerous. Some girls are topless, or even nude, and will grab you hard when you pass and say dirty things. Scary.[/QUOTE]Once I was walking thru VM with my buddy and a girl grabbed my hand and started slapping her ass with it! Then she started yelling, "fuck-me gringo. " I was so terrified I came back for the next four days in a row!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2522318]Very dangerous. Some girls are topless, or even nude, and will grab you hard when you pass and say dirty things. Scary.[/QUOTE]The scariest part of VM is the girls. Most of them look horrific and are not fuckable even for free. You really have to look hard to find one worth doing.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2522391]The scariest part of VM is the girls. Most of them look horrific and are not fuckable even for free. You really have to look hard to find one worth doing.[/QUOTE]I must admit I was there only once, but I felt the same way. The girls were not doable, the urine smell was overwhelming, the surroundings were beyond depressing, and I felt it wouldn't work out for me even if I found someone fuckable. Which I didn't. Still, I might've been unlucky and one should visit the place at least once. Maybe I'll try it again, but no way in hell would I fuck there. Takeout is the only option IMHO.

For safety:

1 Do online map recon.

2 walk and / or drive the areas during the day.

3 wear a Brazilian soccer shirt.

4 pick and be good wingmen.

In contrast to whom I have met and respect (good recommendation on hotel atlântico tower), there are many super hot girls in vm including not just negras but brancas and ruivas.

Part of the interest for some like me is adventure.

For the more safety minded focus on the prives / Clínicas.

For example the porn star Kamila werneck was at the top Clínicas in moema sp.

This is now dated intel but I banged another newer porn star at the Clínica in moema.

Exec talents recommendation to scan the terapatiaonline site and make appointments with well reviewed girls is a solid piece of advice.

The best girls ate at pérola negra, walking distance to metrô jardim oceânico.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2522318]Very dangerous. Some girls are topless, or even nude, and will grab you hard when you pass and say dirty things. Scary.[/QUOTE]

Sunday, I did the transcarioca hike. If you are in Rio, you should try it. Awesome waterfall. Had lunch after at Na Brasa Colombia in Botafogo.

Then went out and banged Rihanna Noir in Bangu at Motel Carbonara in a suit with hidromassagem and pool.

Priceless: sliding it in in the pool.

Monday night, I am in bed with Ana foxxx, giving it two pokes at night. 300 pernoite for a 19 year old Ana Foxxx who does Muy Thai and BJJ. I am in love. Soon, I will have some of my negras fist a redhead.

Lonesome Dove is the name of a book about mongering. I suggest it to we few, we happy few.

For those of you who dislike VM girls, I'll just say that over the last 20+ years, I personally have found a lot of hotties at VM, but I have to agree the smell and squalorly look of VM, has never made me want to fuck at VM. Takeout and/or taking phone numbers, has mainly been my MOD.

Hard to explain, but VM for me, will always hold a certain funky charm.

I will also say that many of girls I seen and found at VM, I have also met at tier 2 and 3 termas / boites and occasionally in a tier-1 terma. Keep in mind that these are working girls and will show up just about anywhere and no doubt over time, their life circumstances will change, pushing them into perhaps a temporary (or permanent) mode of work at VM.

I have even seen a few Brasileira porn stars at VM.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2523358]Lonesome Dove is the name of a book about mongering. I suggest it to we few, we happy few.[/QUOTE]I looked online, but there seem to be a lot of romance-type novels by this name.

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2523735]I looked online, but there seem to be a lot of romance-type novels by this name.[/QUOTE]Hmmm can’t delete this

McMurtry is author of lonesome dove.

Fernanda Torres, fim is another good novel about mongering in Rio.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2523737]Hmmm cant delete this[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2523791]McMurtry is author of lonesome dove.

Fernanda Torres, fim is another good novel about mongering in Rio.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.amazon.com/End-Fernanda-Torres/dp/163206121X?ref_=nav_signin&returnFromLogin=1&.[/URL] Did you read it in English or Portuguese?

There's a certain system like ranking in baseball from minor leagues to big leagues with lots of tiers.

Pro scouts for the established termas scout at VM.

I've often seen a super hot new negra who lasts a week at VM, become the hot new talent at 4 x4.

Mosaico plays into this.

As did Club Red Light which IMHO was the hey day and best period of Rio mongering that I have seen.

VM's squalor is kind of in keeping with that Rio and RJ state vibe of not giving a fuck -- kind of like the book with a title of a similar name, which was mostly written in Brazil. It's kind of a intentional allusion to the literal shitty and piss smelling life of most Rio residents of the lower classes. At least that is this architecture critic's impression.

Again, the best talent is found in VM, but also in particular in the Prive / Clinicas.

There are two schools of Mongering I will offer for edification.

1. The spartan senor Sperto school. I say this with praise of Senor Sperto, who's maps, detailed reports set the stage for many on this board who followed in his path. This involves listing prives from som recon of the local sites, GPArena, etc. And then going there, on foot, meeting the girls, and sessioning if you want a number, and then getting the talent to your place. Logistics of this are easier the longer you stay.

2. Athens Bubba Boy Executive Snob. Some mongers want to be in a rich world class apartment within a rifle shot of Copacabana Palace, because that's the image they had of success in coming to Rio. They won't go to VM because the beds are so bad, they will go to darkside termas, maybe mosaico, and rarely to prives, and they will be parasites off of other monger's best girls.

Anyway, that's my brief take.

Here's an essential skill.

Open your smart phone to the new contact field.

Walk up to the Brazilian girl you want.

Get the number.

Or do your recce on all the sites.

Anyway, I digress.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2523670]For those of you who dislike VM girls, I'll just say that over the last 20+ years, I personally have found a lot of hotties at VM, but I have to agree the smell and squalorly look of VM, has never made me want to fuck at VM. Takeout and/or taking phone numbers, has mainly been my MOD.

Hard to explain, but VM for me, will always hold a certain funky charm.

I will also say that many of girls I seen and found at VM, I have also met at tier 2 and 3 termas / boites and occasionally in a tier-1 terma. Keep in mind that these are working girls and will show up just about anywhere and no doubt over time, their life circumstances will change, pushing them into perhaps a temporary (or permanent) mode of work at VM.

I have even seen a few Brasileira porn stars at VM.[/QUOTE]

English.

It has still applicable lessons about the socio economic cultural structure of Rio as it relates to sex, not just mongering.

It has literature level lessons about aging, and choices of which type of life a man wants to live.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2524015][URL]https://www.amazon.com/End-Fernanda-Torres/dp/163206121X?ref_=nav_signin&returnFromLogin=1&.[/URL] Did you read it in English or Portuguese?[/QUOTE]

I heard boates in Brazil are kind of like Hong Kong club and Adelitas in Tijuana. What is the similarities and differences between them?

Also what are the similarities and differences between German sauna clubs and Brazilian thermas?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2524056]English.

It has still applicable lessons about the socio economic cultural structure of Rio as it relates to sex, not just mongering.

It has literature level lessons about aging, and choices of which type of life a man wants to live.[/QUOTE]Great book suggestion! Just started reading, and it is fascinating. I saw the author, Fernanda Torres, in a play at Centro Cultural Banco do Brasil in one of my early trips to Rio in 1989. In one scene she is fully nude, and I still remember her full Bush. I had no idea she had written some books.

Is it true that at the Hotel Transamerica in Barra you can alternate in the pool with them? Is it also possible to see them at the hotel bar?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2521906]If you PM me, I will send you the number of my landlord.

I will post it here, but I am not sure if it will be deleted by our faithful moderator.

In airbnb or other similar just look for address av gastao senges 395, and Mediterraneo Flats or Transamerica.[/QUOTE]Hey Vagabundo1,

How could you send me the number of Transamerica landlord? Looks like I cannot send PMs. Would be really helpful for my next trip planning to RJ.

Thanks!

Fim is a great book. Glad you like it.

I had a great week starting last Sunday in the aforementioned session at a love motel in zona norte with Rihana, fucking in the pool. 250 for 3 hours.

She came over for a pernoite this week, and it was great. 19 yo pussy never gets old.

I picked her that night over Ana Foxxx, which is saying something. 400 pernoite.

I had a dupla for the first time in a year. I picked up Nia Nacci at the Niteroi Terminal, and ubered her over to Transamerica, where we waited. And waited. For Nina Deponca. We just banged, and did it covered, and I came up her ass. I am paying her 600 but will be cutting her rate. 23 year old now, not as ripe as 18. Nina finally showed, and the dupla commenced. We tied up Nia, which was fun. I fucked Nina, came twice over the next few hours, and took my family. My family of big titted mulatas out to olegario. The address to set your uber to is Olegario Maciel 135, which is Raval, which is the best bar, central to all the nightlife. There they have hookah. The best patricinhas. I mean the sons of the president of Brazil have their militia operations there. The place is heavily policed, very safe, very white. Nina observed it is only rich pretos negros who are there. Its around the corner from Perolas Negra boate, the best in Brazil. It just is. For those who want to make porn, you meet the manager, and you scout for girls who will do that (put their face on the net), and scout for the new Monica mattos quality talent. It's posto 1 or 2. The bus line for the Spartan senor Sperto monger is 309 from Central.

OK, So after treating her like royalty at Olegario Maciel, I take Nina Deponca back to my pad, and fuck her again. I pay her 300 because she usually gets 400 pernoite, and I refuse to let my lowest tier sex worker's wages inflate. This caused some difficulties, but nothing more than a Bond, James Bond, should be used to.

Next night was the aforementioned Rihanna Skin Diamond Kira Noir.

Then Friday, it was a nice pool day -- where my usual workout is swimming, boxing, and lifting (but they are redoing the weight room, but I sneak a bar out anyway and do some clean and jerks) -- so I invited Monique over. I hadn't seen her since Natal, so she was eager, and she showed up, and we played, grabbed her ass, and took pictures in the pool. If you have a cell phone, go to decathlon and get a waterproof camera bag so you can take pics underwater. The girls will love you for it. I had 3 orgasms that night with Monique. Took her to Olegario Maciel, where again we sat and had drinks in practice, across the street from Raval, and had lady drinks while vagabundo had tonicas and then in raval next to a table of six patricinhas who could easily be porn stars but probably are the college student daughters of the top tier social level in Brazil. We talked romantically about negras and mulatas fisting white women, much as Jake and Elwood Blues sat at a high class restaurant and leaned over and asked, "how much for the little girls'.

Oh, how great it is to be politically incorrect in an age of political correctness on the rise.

Three more orgasms and a trip to the pool again with Monique Saturday morning, and a light dinner with ISG member Mandingoblack at Skinna, the best seafood spot in Barra, Posto 1 near Olegario. I was all sexed out, so I even turned down a overnight offer from Ana Foxxx. Earlier in the day, Ana had invited me down to Posto 3, and I did come (less than a 10 uber ride), but she blew me off as she was with 3 local guys, with light military packs, and who looked like they were in the army. Later she asked me to uber her over for pernoite, but I had a hike on Sunday morning. Now, we're playing zap tag to figure out when to uber her over for another 24 hours of fucking swimming and on and on.

I enjoy talking politics with Mandingoblack who is a smart guy, who among other things is wise about health matters relating to sport banging. But, he's headed out of Rio, maybe back in March.

ISG Tradentravel has a vila over in Niteroi, so I may link up with him, but I am very content here at Transamerica, which unfortunately is pretty full this time of year. I think this is the best spot for me -- especially given that one can take the metro to within 1 kilometer or a less than 10 reais uber ride. My main new locations of interest for patrolling are the nude beach at Praia Grumari, further on down the beach from Barra Posto 12, and the nude beach on Isla Governador.

My fat as fuck next door neighbor who I have made friends with has hot girlfriends that I chat with on the veranda. There is so much pussy here it is amazing.

On days, in the morning, during the week, the hottest new girls sit at the pool at Transamerica. I could point them out to you on barravipsrio dot com. You should come see for your self.

[QUOTE=PopeJohn;2524903]Great book suggestion! Just started reading, and it is fascinating. I saw the author, Fernanda Torres, in a play at Centro Cultural Banco do Brasil in one of my early trips to Rio in 1989. In one scene she is fully nude, and I still remember her full Bush. I had no idea she had written some books.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nomad89;2525048]Hey Vagabundo1,

How could you send me the number of Transamerica landlord? Looks like I cannot send PMs. Would be really helpful for my next trip planning to RJ.

Thanks![/QUOTE]You can send Private Messages (PMs) if you purchase a subscription or become a Senior Member by contributing to the forum.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2525089]Fim is a great book. Glad you like it.

My family of big titted mulatas out to olegario. The address to set your uber to is Olegario Maciel 135, which is Raval, which is the best bar, central to all the nightlife. There they have hookah. The best patricinhas. I mean the sons of the president of Brazil have their militia operations there. The place is heavily policed, very safe, very white. Nina observed it is only rich pretos negros who are there. .[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, there is a club named RAVAL and the address is Olegario Maciel 135? How much does the VIP area cost in Raval? Live music? DJ? I have some American brasilieras I will be meeting seeing next month and I might take them there.

It is just a regular club, not a boate (sex club). I will send some pictures of the menu. Lady drinks are 30 reais, a tonica is 5 reais. You pay for the location and the surroundings, and it is a good spot to smoke Hookah, but as my always observant ladies noted, there are a shit ton of uniformed policia, so the whacky tabaccy is prohibido.

The non pro talent there is off the chart. I mean, 25-50% of the girls there are better than porn star quality, in the league of a Giselle bundschen.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2525211]Just to clarify, there is a club named RAVAL and the address is Olegario Maciel 135? How much does the VIP area cost in Raval? Live music? DJ? I have some American brasilieras I will be meeting seeing next month and I might take them there.[/QUOTE]

The hotel Transamerica / Mediterraneo flats bar is open to the public, and a great pick up spot.

Also open to the public is av Gastao Senges 185, the food center where all the residents go to eat. It's a 100 meter stroll in between. I recommend coming and having meals at 185.

As for the pool, my landlord requires me to register each new guest, and wants to limit me to one. So, here's the protip: Just tell each new girl that you take to the pool to use the name of the girl you registered. The front desk girl will look up the name, and as long as your current guest says "sue smith" and that's the name that's registered, boom, she gest in the pool.

One can also just hop the low fence and sneak into the pool. It's on the street side coming from 185. I am not a lawyer but they probably will not hang a man for sneaking into a pool. I'm a pool crasher, and I like infiltrating the pool at the nearby Riveira condominium and hopping in the pool, which makes the local lifeguards and residents go bonkers, but then I have made some friends there too who will cover for me.

I think the Brazilians call it Jeitinho. Which is something like breaking the rules in a society that puts rules on too high a premium probably because it is a military dictatorship just one or two generations removed. But in the ways that count, in sexual politics, it is very liberal.

[QUOTE=TShelby;2525035]Is it true that at the Hotel Transamerica in Barra you can alternate in the pool with them? Is it also possible to see them at the hotel bar?[/QUOTE]

Having just spent several days in Transamerica, some observations. First about AirBnB, in general: renting sight unseen, paying upfront, and no guarantee to extend if you like the place is not what you want from the renter perspective. In our case, apto 1207.2 wasn't the cleanest, and moldy, maybe about a Brazilian unrenovated 3-star quality, but it did have a balcony. Maid cleaning is a joke: leave a towel on the floor, they merely hang the wet thing back on the rack for you. The building itself as far as I know is comprised of one-room 'apartments' whose owners have abandoned the place and become investment landlords. Naturally in this scenario, the building degrades on the downward slope to slumhood. Worst is no restaurant, unless you want to subsist on pizza, and a hike to breakfast and other eateries which open late and close early. In the entire area are apartment blocks (and gated villas) a model of planning which achieves perhaps only the objective of keeping out the wrong color and class of people. OK, but you're here and have to make the most of it, which you can do by logging on to photoaccompanhates where you quickly discover scads of options, some a mere 11 meters distant. Too easy. And they're easy to spot, too: tattooed most of them, pierced some of them, decidedly not Brazilian tourist class all of them, they really stand out. Just say Hello, in English to any potential target, and you'll be marked and solicited as a client. Too easy. Soon you'll you'll have a wake-up, an afternoon, and a nighttime partner. I especially appreciated the midnight emails offering discount promotions and two-for-one specials.

Can someone please explain what Boates and Thermas are?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2525297]The hotel Transamerica / Mediterraneo flats bar is open to the public, and a great pick up spot.

Also open to the public is av Gastao Senges 185, the food center where all the residents go to eat. It's a 100 meter stroll in between. I recommend coming and having meals at 185.

As for the pool, my landlord requires me to register each new guest, and wants to limit me to one. So, here's the protip: Just tell each new girl that you take to the pool to use the name of the girl you registered. The front desk girl will look up the name, and as long as your current guest says "sue smith" and that's the name that's registered, boom, she gest in the pool.

One can also just hop the low fence and sneak into the pool. It's on the street side coming from 185. I am not a lawyer but they probably will not hang a man for sneaking into a pool. I'm a pool crasher, and I like infiltrating the pool at the nearby Riveira condominium and hopping in the pool, which makes the local lifeguards and residents go bonkers, but then I have made some friends there too who will cover for me.

I think the Brazilians call it Jeitinho. Which is something like breaking the rules in a society that puts rules on too high a premium probably because it is a military dictatorship just one or two generations removed. But in the ways that count, in sexual politics, it is very liberal.[/QUOTE]See the Portuguese Words and Phrases thread for an explanation of how Brazilians use Jeitinho. Coming from a gringo it will catch most Brazilians off guard which can be to your advantage. If you can deliver it with a shrug of the shoulders like you would when saying, Come on, there has to be some way. All the better.

[QUOTE=Bruhbruh;2525584]Can someone please explain what Boates and Thermas are?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Please RTFF! Then somebody might be willing to answer your questions. So far, you have shown a complete lack of effort to read the wealth of information on these pages. For that, few if anybody is going to respond to you regarding such basic inquiries. You can start by reading the Reports of Distinction.

Would you say it's better during the week or weekends?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2525449]Having just spent several days in Transamerica, some observations. First about AirBnB, in general: renting sight unseen, paying upfront, and no guarantee to extend if you like the place is not what you want from the renter perspective. In our case, apto 1207.2 wasn't the cleanest, and moldy, maybe about a Brazilian unrenovated 3-star quality, but it did have a balcony. Maid cleaning is a joke: leave a towel on the floor, they merely hang the wet thing back on the rack for you. The building itself as far as I know is comprised of one-room 'apartments' whose owners have abandoned the place and become investment landlords. Naturally in this scenario, the building degrades on the downward slope to slumhood. Worst is no restaurant, unless you want to subsist on pizza, and a hike to breakfast and other eateries which open late and close early. In the entire area are apartment blocks (and gated villas) a model of planning which achieves perhaps only the objective of keeping out the wrong color and class of people. OK, but you're here and have to make the most of it, which you can do by logging on to photoaccompanhates where you quickly discover scads of options, some a mere 11 meters distant. Too easy. And they're easy to spot, too: tattooed most of them, pierced some of them, decidedly not Brazilian tourist class all of them, they really stand out. Just say Hello, in English to any potential target, and you'll be marked and solicited as a client. Too easy. Soon you'll you'll have a wake-up, an afternoon, and a nighttime partner. I especially appreciated the midnight emails offering discount promotions and two-for-one specials.[/QUOTE]

As a Transamerica resident you have to take charge of your own cleaning if only to the extent of supervising and maybe tipping the cleaning lady.

One of the virtues of Brazilians is they are super clean.

Your girls will clean and cook too. Harem maintenance.

Cleaning is not free in the rich world either.

I rent out my rich world beach condo and swap for Transamerica during the pandemic.

The main advantage of this location is the network effects of all the top working girls living here as this post by Golfino notes.

Orthodox Jewish families from Argentina and MILF with their daughters from Switzerland and all other forms of non pros make up the hotel population.

If you are in the area drop me a line.

As we say bros over ho's.

Talking to another dude is helpful to cut the bullshit from constant exposure to garotas.

Yesterday Mandingoblack and I went to Anna massagem, Bel prazer, and duda massagem by uber and back to barra by metro.

Because no rooms were available in Transamerica he found a spot in [URL]ksportal.com.br[/URL] a few blocks from metro jardim oceânico.

I had Rihanna noir over pernoite 400.

You can find the Transamerica pool / elevator talent on barravipsrio dot.

Just open your smartphone to a new contact and stick it in her face like a 4 x 4 girl sticks her bunda in your face.

Start talking to them on zap from barravipsrio and tell them your in Transamerica.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2525449]Having just spent several days in Transamerica, some observations. First about AirBnB, in general: renting sight unseen, paying upfront, and no guarantee to extend if you like the place is not what you want from the renter perspective. In our case, apto 1207.2 wasn't the cleanest, and moldy, maybe about a Brazilian unrenovated 3-star quality, but it did have a balcony. Maid cleaning is a joke: leave a towel on the floor, they merely hang the wet thing back on the rack for you. The building itself as far as I know is comprised of one-room 'apartments' whose owners have abandoned the place and become investment landlords. Naturally in this scenario, the building degrades on the downward slope to slumhood. Worst is no restaurant, unless you want to subsist on pizza, and a hike to breakfast and other eateries which open late and close early. In the entire area are apartment blocks (and gated villas) a model of planning which achieves perhaps only the objective of keeping out the wrong color and class of people. OK, but you're here and have to make the most of it, which you can do by logging on to photoaccompanhates where you quickly discover scads of options, some a mere 11 meters distant..[/QUOTE]

IMHO keeping out the wrong class of criminals is good. Obviously I'm a fan of negras só I like the darker ladies I bring.

As for the food court at Av gastao Sengés 185 , the sushi is excellent, the pizza at borda e lenha (best is bacon with gorgonzola) in the thin crust is a big big winner.

It is a matter of taste.

If you're a 'city guy' like fukafmedig you live in lapa or copa -- but I don't like that packed apt living. At best I like a verandas sao Clemente at sao Clemente 114 overlooking bambina.

I don't want to lean out a window and see a packed city street and I don't like the foot traffic of criminal threats to protect from.

It'like miami as opposed to downtown New York or LA, which suits some. Including the top garota talent, which tells you something.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2525449]Having just spent several days in Transamerica, some observations. First about AirBnB, in general: renting sight unseen, paying upfront, and no guarantee to extend if you like the place is not what you want from the renter perspective. In our case, apto 1207.2 wasn't the cleanest, and moldy, maybe about a Brazilian unrenovated 3-star quality, but it did have a balcony. Maid cleaning is a joke: leave a towel on the floor, they merely hang the wet thing back on the rack for you. The building itself as far as I know is comprised of one-room 'apartments' whose owners have abandoned the place and become investment landlords. Naturally in this scenario, the building degrades on the downward slope to slumhood. Worst is no restaurant, unless you want to subsist on pizza, and a hike to breakfast and other eateries which open late and close early. In the entire area are apartment blocks (and gated villas) a model of planning which achieves perhaps only the objective of keeping out the wrong color and class of people. OK, but you're here and have to make the most of it, which you can do by logging on to photoaccompanhates where you quickly discover scads of options, some a mere 11 meters distant. Too easy. And they're easy to spot, too: tattooed most of them, pierced some of them, decidedly not Brazilian tourist class all of them, they really stand out. Just say Hello, in English to any potential target, and you'll be marked and solicited as a client. Too easy. Soon you'll you'll have a wake-up, an afternoon, and a nighttime partner. I especially appreciated the midnight emails offering discount promotions and two-for-one specials.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2525594]Please RTFF! Then somebody might be willing to answer your questions. So far, you have shown a complete lack of effort to read the wealth of information on these pages. For that, few if anybody is going to respond to you regarding such basic inquiries. You can start by reading the Reports of Distinction.[/QUOTE]OK. I read through some of the reports. I still have some questions about termas and boates.

1. Do the girls wear lingerie or swimsuits in termas? Or are they fully nude?

2. In boates, are there people that are going there to just dance instead of for sex?

3. What do the girls in boates wear? Normal clothes? Lingerie? Swimsuits?

4. How loud is the music at a boate? Is it as loud as Hong Kong club in Tijuana?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Bruhbruh;2525850]OK. I read through some of the reports. I still have some questions about termas and boates.

1. Do the girls wear lingerie or swimsuits in termas? Or are they fully nude?

2. In boates, are there people that are going there to just dance instead of for sex?

3. What do the girls in boates wear? Normal clothes? Lingerie? Swimsuits?

4. How loud is the music at a boate? Is it as loud as Hong Kong club in Tijuana?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is no nudity in the termas. The girls wear bikinis, very revealing clothing, etc. Kind of like what you might see at the Hong Kong Club in Tijuana. At the boates or nightclubs, people do in fact go to those just to hang out and have fun as well as pick somebody up for sex. In fact, the same thing happens at the termas. Brazilian guys are known for hanging out and copping feels while sessioning with nobody. It's not all about the sex all of the time. At the boates, people wear their normal street clothes. And the music at both boates and termas can indeed be very loud. Some people don't frequent those establishments in part due to the loud party atmosphere that often prevails.

The best Brazilian girl I had in 2018 I met at the Churrascuria in Tijuana, a mulata, who I took to Hotel Ticuan, which has a tower with a nice hot tub on top, a good spot for filming which the Mexicans were doing when I was there with her. We also went to the coast, south of Playas de Tijuana.

Mexicans are the poor man's Brazilians.

The first Brazilian girl I had was also in Tijuana back in 2005 or so. She advertised on some hooker sex site, and I fell in love with that Brazilian booty, that bunda, and I shortly came to the source.

All that the cane writes is true.

You need to go and search on the forum for "bubba boy guide".

I posted Saint Bubba Boy's extensive (like 50 page) word document, which he wrote with a fellow ISG member on the deck of some Copacabana penthouse a rifle shot from Copacabana palace, which, again, I don't prefer because the water in the harbor proper is like swimming in someone's toilet.

It has it all there.

Security.

Mini relationships.

It is all still true, maybe some new apps like whatsapp and whatever comes next, and the metro goes to Barra, but Saint Bubba of Athens, and Senor Sperto of Sparta have already written all you need to know.

RTFF, and make sure to write good useful reports for those who come after.

Tijuana sex is generally pretty bad.

When and if you learn enough Portuguese to pull Brazilians out of the churrascuria in Tijuana, then thou shall have passed into the promised land, the land of bunda.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2525898]There is no nudity in the termas. The girls wear bikinis, very revealing clothing, etc. Kind of like what you might see at the Hong Kong Club in Tijuana. At the boates or nightclubs, people do in fact go to those just to hang out and have fun as well as pick somebody up for sex. In fact, the same thing happens at the termas. Brazilian guys are known for hanging out and copping feels while sessioning with nobody. It's not all about the sex all of the time. At the boates, people wear their normal street clothes. And the music at both boates and termas can indeed be very loud. Some people don't frequent those establishments in part due to the loud party atmosphere that often prevails.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bruhbruh;2525584]Can someone please explain what Boates and Thermas are?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]They are very nice as Borat says.

[QUOTE=Bruhbruh;2525850]OK. I read through some of the reports. I still have some questions about termas and boates.

2. In boates, are there people that are going there to just dance instead of for sex?

[/QUOTE]A boate is actually a night club in Brazil. But there are boates for sex like Lux or Barbarella in Copacabana (currently close), or Perolas Negra in Barra the Tijuca (the one Vagabundo seems to love), Can't tell you more, not really my scene.

Correction:

Hotel lucerna.

K tower.

It's just a matter of personal taste but I find Tijuana and mxn very dirty and I don't like it at all compared to Brazil.

I've made non pro, real friends here who are rich euro zone folks who choose to live in rio. For the people, the culture.

I'm not directly answering your questions about Hong Kong club in Tijuana vs Perola negra club in barra the Tijuca, but it's better to be in rio in all respects. Just do yourself a favor and find a audio course version of basic Portuguese and listen to it and sleep with it on. Over and over.

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2525941]The best Brazilian girl I had in 2018 I met at the Churrascuria in Tijuana, a mulata, who I took to Hotel Ticuan, which has a tower with a nice hot tub on top, a good spot for filming which the Mexicans were doing when I was there with her. We also went to the coast, south of Playas de Tijuana.

Mexicans are the poor man's Brazilians.

The first Brazilian girl I had was also in Tijuana back in 2005 or so. She advertised on some hooker sex site, and I fell in love with that Brazilian booty, that bunda, and I shortly came to the source.

All that the cane writes is true.

You need to go and search on the forum for "bubba boy guide"..[/QUOTE]

Can anyone post the rates at Solarium? I'll be in Rio in a few weeks and wanted to know before going out there since its not in Copacabana where I'm staying. Monte Carlo, which is in Copacabana, had an entrance fee, room fee, and garota fee which came up to about 720 reals if you went in, had a couple of drinks and banged one garota for an hour. What is it at Solarium?

+/- 10% of monte carlo.

But mc is bad, warmed over reheated leftover churrasco.

400% more than perola negra, best boate in Brazil.

On the plus side there are free toothbrushes haha.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2526311]Can anyone post the rates at Solarium? I'll be in Rio in a few weeks and wanted to know before going out there since its not in Copacabana where I'm staying. Monte Carlo, which is in Copacabana, had an entrance fee, room fee, and garota fee which came up to about 720 reals if you went in, had a couple of drinks and banged one garota for an hour. What is it at Solarium?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2526506]+/- 10% of monte carlo.

But mc is bad, warmed over reheated leftover churrasco.

400% more than perola negra, best boate in Brazil.

On the plus side there are free toothbrushes haha.[/QUOTE]I don't remember the numbers, but I believe Solarium has always been slightly more expensive than MC. But they have email specials, so it might be worth it to get on their list.

Can you share any details on Perola Negra? Not much info in this thread. How many girls, prices, rooms onsite?

The girls at Transamerica have a need to learn English.

I'm going to use.

Californication.

Netflix specials on Rocco.

Any other suggestions welcome.

As for perola negras, jeezus come see for yourself. Or search the local sites.

The best mongers on this board graduate and never post. Because they get nothing from this board.

They pull from badoo or otherwise.

See you in Rio maybe.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2526551]The girls at Transamerica have a need to learn English.

I'm going to use.

Californication.

Netflix specials on Rocco.

Any other suggestions welcome.

As for perola negras, jeezus come see for yourself. Or search the local sites.

The best mongers on this board graduate and never post. Because they get nothing from this board.

They pull from badoo or otherwise.

See you in Rio maybe.[/QUOTE]You got me thinking on the term ¨best monger¨. For me that would be someone who consistently mongered in German FKKs.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2526551]The girls at Transamerica have a need to learn English.[/QUOTE]Why? All that is going to do is drive their prices up. If you better their lives they will no longer have a need to be hookers.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2526882]You got me thinking on the term best monger. For me that would be someone who consistently mongered in German FKKs.[/QUOTE]I don't know. FKKs, termas, Scandallo, Night Flight (Moscow), etc. They all seem too easy.

I have hung out with fellow mongers who could smell out a small brothel in some Cambodian backwater.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2526551]The girls at Transamerica have a need to learn English.

I'm going to use.

Californication.

Netflix specials on Rocco.

Any other suggestions welcome.

As for perola negras, jeezus come see for yourself. Or search the local sites.

The best mongers on this board graduate and never post. Because they get nothing from this board.

They pull from badoo or otherwise.

See you in Rio maybe.[/QUOTE]I'll never graduate, LOL. Can't stick to the same country, even if I love Brazil more than any other place on earth. But I also love seeing places I've never seen before. I got this bug when I was traveling on business, and it stuck.

To each their own. My best buddy (not a monger) has been vacationing in the same place for the last 20+ years. Year after year. He thinks I'm nuts. Which is fine, I might be.

Anyway, for now I'm living vicariously through you, fearless warriors, until I'm done with my 2 shots.

If you really want to help your girls (and if they're motivated because it's boring like hell) throw your series out the window and get them Pimsleur American English for Brazilian speakers. I don't remember the exact title, but you've got the gist. It's easy enough and it'll get them started. Movies, videos, porn and pop-music might entertain them, but won't do shit until they're at least a little bit conversant.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2526886]Why? All that is going to do is drive their prices up. If you better their lives they will no longer have a need to be hookers.[/QUOTE]Well, you're 50% right. That will drive the prices up, but they'll still be hookers.

I left rio about a week ago but have been meaning to post as I was having too good of a time to sit down and write. I don't remember all the prices for the places so if you need that info ask a veteran I'm just a first time rookie.

4 x4 Termas.

Went back a few times here as many poster's have stated it's their favorite place and I can see why. I actually went here on my 3rd day here but it seems I went to the bar area on the first floor instead of the actual terma which is on the second floor and who's door is on the left side of the building. Big difference. Same set up as Monte Carlo or Solarium but is pretty cheap or in my opinion best value for money. It was 70 BRL (drinks are included with the price I believe I only ordered water and some soda so I didn't see much of bump in the total) for entrance and 230 BRL for 30 mins with a girl. No difference if you paid cash or card which is really handy as I hated having to carry cash around all the time. The amount of girls in the place seemed to always be +10 but I went around 6-9 pm which I've been told is the best time to go from other posters and seems to be true for all termas. The girls here are pretty decent and very nice. A good amount of decent to hot girls in this place. Had 3 girls in one night here a thick redhead branca, a tall skinny loira and a petite brunette so the variety of girls here is really good. With everything it came to +900 BRL which is pretty good since all the girls I was with were all good performers. Rooms are ok but kinda odd as the toilet is with the shower so if you need to do some business use the bathrooms on the 3rd floor beforehand. Came here my last day as well and again was a good time although I had to leave early to catch my flight back home. I can see why this place get's alot of recommendations.

Solarium Termas.

Went here once but really liked this place. It's out the way from other termas but worth the uber trip. I forget the pricing here but I think it was 90 BRL entrance and 260 BRL for 30/40 mins so just a bit more than 4 x4 but not by much. You can also order some sushi / appetizers so that makes it a bit different from other places. The girls here are really relaxed and two girls came up and chatted with me to explain how the terma worked. None of the girls were asking for a drink or any of that BS. There was a good amount of girls and I had a hard time choosing so the quality was also really good here. I ended up picking this blonde girl with big TA (enhanced. Sigh) she spoke decent english and what got me is that she slid my hand behind her dress and let me finger her in the club. She was a sex crazed nymph so that's all I needed to know! Took her right away. Great session and got her number. Turned out to be a good call as I could hit her up at night for 200 BRL with as many shots I wanted. I was staying at a AirBNB that did not allow girls in the place (I could have brought her up as the doorman didn't seem to care and others seem to bring their girls here but I didn't want to mess with that and possibly get a complaint and BS) she recommended a place called VANITY hotel in copacabana. It was 120 BRL for 3 hour rental and had mirrors all over the place so definitely a good place to check out even if you have a place. She did everything I asked and let me record it all which was the cherry on the top. Really nice and sweet girl. She asked if I would let her get a juice and snack from the minibar which was like $3 USD and when I said sure she was more than thrilled. Really humble girl which was very refreshing to see. I did want to go back to Solarium again but just never got the chance to. Don't remember much of the place but definitely one of the better places in rio.

Monte Carlo Terma.

Went here again after my first bad experience. Came around 6 pm as others have stated that's the best time come. There was only 6 girls and I think one other guy. Girls just approach you unlike the other termas where you have wave them over. Talked to one girl but wasn't really interested. Waited a few minutes and saw a redhead branca that I took. She looked american but didn't speak any english. Great session. The room again was small with no bathroom. It was decent tho compared to the others. MC has to be on my least favorite. Seems to not be as lively as the other termas and the girls seem to want you to buy them a drink and seem pretty bored. Shame as it's the closest one on copa.

Euro Spa Prive.

Found this place on the RIO google map that has all the places marked. It's inside a business complex which seems to be the same for all the PRIVES. It's not listed on the board of workplaces located in the complex but it is there. It has 2 fake flower plants outside it's door. 200 BRL for 1 hour with a girl and 350 for two girls. You get a drink included which is cool. The line up is ok at best. Nothing really outstanding but decent given the price. Came here twice as it opens early and I could get a quick one in the morning before the termas open. It's in barra so good if you're in the area. Room was decent and bigger than the little rooms in the termas. The only thing was the bathroom where you shower was super tight and small. Really hot water only. Honestly that was the worse. I'm not even a big guy so I could only imagine how much worse it would be for others. Both girls gave me a decent massage in the beginning and the performance was definitely worth the money. Would recommend but man that shower still bugs me so just beware of that.

BARRAS VIP.

Found 2 redheads on the site (one of them was called maria salles or something like that) they both were on the site so I asked the salles girl if she knew the other girl and she did. They both were in transamerica hotel in barra. Set it up for 800 BRL (400 each) for 1 hour. The salles girl was a pornstar and she did perform! They both were really great and again I could see why some guys like to stay at this hotel for the convenience. Its got a different name Mediterranean flats but its the place. I was actually thinking of staying here but it's a hit or miss with the quality of the room I've read. Sometimes it's good and sometimes it has mold and other weird stuff. I was on vacation so when I was in barra I got a nice luxury AirBNB that let girls in so I was happy with that. It was a quick 5 min UBER to the hotel so no issues. The escort sites always seem to all over the place in Brazil. Yes there seems to be regular girls that are on the site but the one's I was interested in were always not in town when I was or would appear after a few days. It's really tough to get the one you want unless you check everyday a couple of hours. 300 BRL to 400 BRL seemed to be the norm with UBER if you were in copa when you were in Barra or vice versa.

NOTES.

Didn't go to any of the Boates (Casablanca, perla negra, paris cafe, etc) heard they were a toss up depending on the day and time you go so I just sticked with termas. I didn't go to as many place I would have liked either as I was enjoying the amazing scenery rio had to offer. Great place just to take in the view and explore. I got a girls number in centaruas and she was supposed to take me on a tour of rio but she got tested and found out she got covid. I'm back home but she still zaps me so hopefully when I come back we can make up for lost time. Didn't get to do a pernoite sad to say so that's my goal for next time. Learning up on my portuguese and will try to hit up some worker girls in the mall next time as there was some nice looking chicks there. Would recommend checking the museum of tomorrow located in centro, awesome place with great views. Ipenema beach seems to be the safer beach. I walked the beach at night to the end and it was fairly calm. Copa I walked for a few yards and was already sketched out. Barra was safe but you have to uber everywhere and is only good if you are hitting up girls at transamerica or going to the prives nearby. Copa or ipanema seems to be where you want to be at least for new comers. Centro is definitely the most sketchy part of the city. Almost had my phone taken from me by a guy on a bike but I had strap on it to my hand so he didn't get it but that was the only thing that happened to me. Lots do in this city so I recommend you also check out the many great places all over rio.

If I got anything wrong or missed a few things let me know.

Staying 1 week in both cities although not as extensive as other here on the board has given me some insight that maybe other newcomers will find helpful.

(I came here beginning of Jan so C19 lockdown was in effect and most girls were on vacation / coming back from vacation; so that has to be noted while writing this).

It's hard to compare the two since they are both radically different but the scene is what we really are comparing here.

RIO.

Termas (Suana House / FKKs) / Boates (Clubs) / Prives ("Massages") Acompanhantes (Barras VIP, Private55, etc).

Never been to a Terma or FKK so interesting new experience. It's decent but I was expecting them to be a bit more luxurious. Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaraus, 4 x4 all follow the same format of 2nd floor being the bar area where the girls hang out, 3rd is where rooms are. You change in the 1st usually with a locker to store your stuff. The Bar area is always small so once you enter all eyes are on you especially if you're the only guy there which happened to me a few times. I like to sit down, drink a bit and scan the room and see my options but that's hard to do when all the girls are ready to pounce on you to get you to go with them. You have to be a bit jaded and straightforward with them if you're not interested. I learned that most if not all termas don't let the girls have their phones with them when they are on the job so they really are bored sometimes because all they can do is sit and stand and wait til someone talks to them. Also from talking to some girls there outside the termas some girls only get one guy or 2 on their 8 hour shift so that's like 230 to 460 BRL so getting their number to do more stuff is the key as sometimes they don't get any guys at all some night so they like to get what they can get. Rooms are small and just ok so best to get their number to go to a better love hotel or your hotel / airbnb. Centaurus seems to have the best looking girls but all the girls I talked to wanted a drink but were generally friendly. Also they have a girl escort you upstairs so you have a guide to show you the ropes which is nice. It's the most expensive out of all the termas it's like 600 BRL for entrance, room and a girl for 40 mins and then 400?BRL for girls and room after that, something like that. They charge an extra 120 BRL if you use a card as well so best to bring cash. Got a girls number here and she was super friendly so good girls here. I personally liked Solarium /4 x4 the best for the price and quality of girls.

Didn't go to any Boates here but heard it's a mixed bag so you just have to try your luck.

Prives seems to be the cheapest out of all the options and seems to be ok. 200 BRL for an hour on average. Similar to Clinicas in SP but you can tell these don't get much traffic as the SP clinicas do.

You get a decent massage included.

Would check out for the cheap price and line up is ok.

Acompanhantes here is easy to find as most are in barra in the transamerica hotel. Good selection but the girls are constantly rotating (the ones I found more interesting) so it's hard to find your girl if you have someone in mind sometimes. There are some regular girls here of course but some girls appear for a few days and disappear so you have to be ready to strike when you get your chance. 300 to 600 BRL is the asking. If you're in barra and they are in copa (or vice versa) they will ask for UBER which I find understandable as it is a 35 min drive. If you stick to the trust worthy sites you should be fine I didn't get burn once using barras vip or private55.

SAO PAULO.

Clinicas ("massage"/ Incall escorts) / Boates (Nightclubs) / Online girls (Private55, MClass, etc).

Clinicas are the best value I've seen so far. Miruna, Abbobora, Carinas, enjoy spa are all within walking distance so if you don't like one line up you can walk a few blocks and find another. 230 BRL is the average with 460 BRL for 2 girls. Line ups are usually good with a 8+ girls usually in rotation. Rooms are medium size and decent. Always best to get a girls whatsapp if you're interested. The girls here also have alot of passion which makes it all the more worth it.

Boates I've went to was scandallo and loved it! It definitely is one of / if not the top clubs in the world. It is very luxurious and is really like fantasy movie. 300 BRL to enter with 150 BRL of that going towards food or drink of your choice. Girls can range from 500 to 1000 BRL so it's really how good of a negotiator you are. Room is 230 BRL with a mega room being 260 (never saw that room but for 30 more I would check it out) if you take two girls you have to pay double for your room. Stupid I know. So you're looking at 1100 BRL if you do everything right. Pretty expensive compared to the clinicas where you can get a 3 some for 460 BRL. I will say though, the food and drinks are good and extensive and so are the girls. When you go up the elevator to the 2nd floor there are tons of girls there. There is usally 50+ girls on any given night. Asians girls, brancas, loiras, ruvias, spinners, tall, short, skinny, thick (very few black girls tho) so really it's just a nice diverse crowd. Girls don't approach you, you have to talk or wave them to you. So no one is pressuring you, you can just eat, drink and scan for the right girl. The girls also don't seem to ask for drinks which is cool. I didn't speak any portuguese but they all tried their best to keep the conversation going. You really get to get a sense of their personality which is a real big plus. I'm used to luxurious incall places in Montreal or Barcelona and I find this fantasy nightclub one step further which just enhances your experience. You feel like ryan gosling or george clooney picking up a hot chick who just wants to bang you. It is expensive compared to anything in Brazil but it definitely sells you a one of a kind experience you won't ever get anywhere else (unless you're super hot and rich, then carry on).

I would do the clinicas in the day time and after 10 pm which is when you would want to go to scandollo I go there. A good mix of fun.

Online girls I've found to be all over. They would appear and disappear on and off. It seems the rate was 400 to 600 BRL. I had some luck with MClass, private55 and SPLove. It's really just checking up everyday to see if the girl you want appears or not. Clinica girls usually settle for 300 BRL so honestly if you're looking for something consistent I would go that route. I would luck it out tho you can definitely find some great talent you just have to put the work in and you will be rewarded. Don't use photoacompanhantes they always do a bait and switch. You can still fuck the switch girl but it's never the same girl and it's just being lied to that makes it all scummy. Use the 3 sites I listed to not get scammed out of your time and money.

CONCLUSION.

I found that I liked the SP scene a bit better. The no commitment / entrance fee line ups at the clinicas mixed with the luxury fantasy land of scandollo (plus daytime-clinicas nighttime-scandollo) scenario really makes it a solid play. Plus SP has tons of Luxury high rise AirBNBs that are listed for $40 a night makes it a really top notch experience.

BUT.

There is almost nothing to do in SP (unless you guys can recommend some fun things to do) except eat and shop. Its a huge metropolis so you really have to look.

The girls here seem to be really business minded. Never got to meet a girl for fun or pernoite so was a bummer. I know it happens so I just may have to wish for better luck next time.

I found RIO to be a much better relaxation / vacation location with good girls. You can't beat the views and activities you can do here. Hiking, swimming, sailing, paragliding, etc. You can find a diverse bunch of girls here (not much spinners but black girls for sure than SP) and they are much friendlier and playful. You definitely can spend a whole day with a girl here and have a good time without having sex which says a lot about the city.

BUT.

Not a fan of the small spaces of the termas.

Not many luxury airbnbs in copa / Ipa (there are a ton in barra but that's a 35 min drive plus they are usually not by the beach).

I will come back again and most likely do another week in both cities because they both offer their unique pros which I like and don't want to miss out.

Just my 2 cents if I'm missing anything let me know.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2527072]I left rio about a week ago but have been meaning to post as I was having too good of a time to sit down and write.[/QUOTE]Great report. My brother will be going down for his firsr time next month with me and you gave me some good ideas for that trip.

From what I have read about Rio and the attitudes of the girls there, in Rio de Janeiro being a prostitute is no different than being a waitress or a check out girl in the United States. There isn't much of a stigma to it, which means that the girls are more normal, fun and relaxed about being paid for sex.

Is there truth to this or am I misunderstanding?

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527101]From what I have read about Rio and the attitudes of the girls there, in Rio de Janeiro being a prostitute is no different than being a waitress or a check out girl in the United States. There isn't much of a stigma to it, which means that the girls are more normal, fun and relaxed about being paid for sex.

Is there truth to this or am I misunderstanding?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I would go that far with the idea that there is hardly any stigma. It's a big city with many conservative, Christian types. Like any other city, there is a class hierarchy. Perhaps, a conservative Carioca will be somewhat tolerant of a working girl simply because she is from a low rung on the ladder.

Cariocas (Rio natives) are known for being laidback and more carefree than Paulistas. I suppose you can generally say that about cities with beaches and great climates. My Brazilian friends from other places joke about the Cariocas not giving a damn and being all about having a good time. Of course, these are generalizations.

As far as Carioca working girls not being on the clock and more willing to just hang out, in my experience that would seem to be indicative of the Carioca spirit.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2527088]Staying 1 week in both cities although not as extensive as other here on the board has given me some insight that maybe other newcomers will find helpful.

(I came here beginning of Jan so C19 lockdown was in effect and most girls were on vacation / coming back from vacation; so that has to be noted while writing this).

It's hard to compare the two since they are both radically different but the scene is what we really are comparing here.

RIO.

Termas (Suana House / FKKs) / Boates (Clubs) / Prives ("Massages") Acompanhantes (Barras VIP, Private55, etc).

Never been to a Terma or FKK so interesting new experience. It's decent but I was expecting them to be a bit more luxurious. Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaraus, 4 x4 all follow the same format of 2nd floor being the bar area where the girls hang out, 3rd is where rooms are. You change in the 1st usually with a locker to store your stuff. The Bar area is always small so once you enter all eyes are on you especially if you're the only guy there which happened to me a few times. I like to sit down, drink a bit and scan the room and see my options but that's hard to do when all the girls are ready to pounce on you to get you to go with them. You have to be a bit jaded and straightforward with them if you're not interested. I learned that most if not all termas don't let the girls have their phones with them when they are on the job so they really are bored sometimes because all they can do is sit and stand and wait til someone talks to them. Also from talking to some girls there outside the termas some girls only get one guy or 2 on their 8 hour shift so that's like 230 to 460 BRL so getting their number to do more stuff is the key as sometimes they don't get any guys at all some night so they like to get what they can get. Rooms are small and just ok so best to get their number to go to a better love hotel or your hotel / airbnb. Centaurus seems to have the best looking girls but all the girls I talked to wanted a drink but were generally friendly. Also they have a girl escort you upstairs so you have a guide to show you the ropes which is nice. It's the most expensive out of all the termas it's like 600 BRL for entrance, room and a girl for 40 mins and then 400?BRL for girls and room after that, something like that. They charge an extra 120 BRL if you use a card as well so best to bring cash. Got a girls number here and she was super friendly so good girls here. I personally liked Solarium /4 x4 the best for the price and quality of girls.

Didn't go to any Boates here but heard it's a mixed bag so you just have to try your luck.

Prives seems to be the cheapest out of all the options and seems to be ok. 200 BRL for an hour on average. Similar to Clinicas in SP but you can tell these don't get much traffic as the SP clinicas do.

You get a decent massage included.

Would check out for the cheap price and line up is ok.

Acompanhantes here is easy to find as most are in barra in the transamerica hotel. Good selection but the girls are constantly rotating (the ones I found more interesting) so it's hard to find your girl if you have someone in mind sometimes. There are some regular girls here of course but some girls appear for a few days and disappear so you have to be ready to strike when you get your chance. 300 to 600 BRL is the asking. If you're in barra and they are in copa (or vice versa) they will ask for UBER which I find understandable as it is a 35 min drive. If you stick to the trust worthy sites you should be fine I didn't get burn once using barras vip or private55.

SAO PAULO.

Clinicas ("massage"/ Incall escorts) / Boates (Nightclubs) / Online girls (Private55, MClass, etc).

Clinicas are the best value I've seen so far. Miruna, Abbobora, Carinas, enjoy spa are all within walking distance so if you don't like one line up you can walk a few blocks and find another. 230 BRL is the average with 460 BRL for 2 girls. Line ups are usually good with a 8+ girls usually in rotation. Rooms are medium size and decent. Always best to get a girls whatsapp if you're interested. The girls here also have alot of passion which makes it all the more worth it.

Boates I've went to was scandallo and loved it! It definitely is one of / if not the top clubs in the world. It is very luxurious and is really like fantasy movie. 300 BRL to enter with 150 BRL of that going towards food or drink of your choice. Girls can range from 500 to 1000 BRL so it's really how good of a negotiator you are. Room is 230 BRL with a mega room being 260 (never saw that room but for 30 more I would check it out) if you take two girls you have to pay double for your room. Stupid I know. So you're looking at 1100 BRL if you do everything right. Pretty expensive compared to the clinicas where you can get a 3 some for 460 BRL. I will say though, the food and drinks are good and extensive and so are the girls. When you go up the elevator to the 2nd floor there are tons of girls there. There is usally 50+ girls on any given night. Asians girls, brancas, loiras, ruvias, spinners, tall, short, skinny, thick (very few black girls tho) so really it's just a nice diverse crowd. Girls don't approach you, you have to talk or wave them to you. So no one is pressuring you, you can just eat, drink and scan for the right girl. The girls also don't seem to ask for drinks which is cool. I didn't speak any portuguese but they all tried their best to keep the conversation going. You really get to get a sense of their personality which is a real big plus. I'm used to luxurious incall places in Montreal or Barcelona and I find this fantasy nightclub one step further which just enhances your experience. You feel like ryan gosling or george clooney picking up a hot chick who just wants to bang you. It is expensive compared to anything in Brazil but it definitely sells you a one of a kind experience you won't ever get anywhere else (unless you're super hot and rich, then carry on).

I would do the clinicas in the day time and after 10 pm which is when you would want to go to scandollo I go there. A good mix of fun.

Online girls I've found to be all over. They would appear and disappear on and off. It seems the rate was 400 to 600 BRL. I had some luck with MClass, private55 and SPLove. It's really just checking up everyday to see if the girl you want appears or not. Clinica girls usually settle for 300 BRL so honestly if you're looking for something consistent I would go that route. I would luck it out tho you can definitely find some great talent you just have to put the work in and you will be rewarded. Don't use photoacompanhantes they always do a bait and switch. You can still fuck the switch girl but it's never the same girl and it's just being lied to that makes it all scummy. Use the 3 sites I listed to not get scammed out of your time and money.

CONCLUSION.

I found that I liked the SP scene a bit better. The no commitment / entrance fee line ups at the clinicas mixed with the luxury fantasy land of scandollo (plus daytime-clinicas nighttime-scandollo) scenario really makes it a solid play. Plus SP has tons of Luxury high rise AirBNBs that are listed for $40 a night makes it a really top notch experience.

BUT.

There is almost nothing to do in SP (unless you guys can recommend some fun things to do) except eat and shop. Its a huge metropolis so you really have to look.

The girls here seem to be really business minded. Never got to meet a girl for fun or pernoite so was a bummer. I know it happens so I just may have to wish for better luck next time.

I found RIO to be a much better relaxation / vacation location with good girls. You can't beat the views and activities you can do here. Hiking, swimming, sailing, paragliding, etc. You can find a diverse bunch of girls here (not much spinners but black girls for sure than SP) and they are much friendlier and playful. You definitely can spend a whole day with a girl here and have a good time without having sex which says a lot about the city.

BUT.

Not a fan of the small spaces of the termas.

Not many luxury airbnbs in copa / Ipa (there are a ton in barra but that's a 35 min drive plus they are usually not by the beach).

I will come back again and most likely do another week in both cities because they both offer their unique pros which I like and don't want to miss out.

Just my 2 cents if I'm missing anything let me know.[/QUOTE]I have visited Rio and SP extensively and this is a good comparison between the two.

For me the mongering in both cities is great but the overall experience in Rio is better.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527101]From what I have read about Rio and the attitudes of the girls there, in Rio de Janeiro being a prostitute is no different than being a waitress or a check out girl in the United States. There isn't much of a stigma to it, which means that the girls are more normal, fun and relaxed about being paid for sex.

Is there truth to this or am I misunderstanding?[/QUOTE]I think you are misunderstanding. Although it is tolerated and a woman will not be persecuted, does not mean it does not carry a certain stigma. Nobody is around Brazil praising hookers. They are still talked about behind their backs and carry a negative connotation. There are no Brazilians hoping their kid grows up to be a hooker. People just understand that it is what it is.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2527138]I have visited Rio and SP extensively and this is a good comparison between the two.

I agree - it's an excellent report. Only disagreement is there is a infinity of things to do in Sao Paulo (other than monger). More than 20M people live there. It's like New York as far as things to do. That said, it's not a vacation city like Rio.

For me the mongering in both cities is great but the overall experience in Rio is better.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2527139]I think you are misunderstanding. Although it is tolerated and a woman will not be persecuted, does not mean it does not carry a certain stigma. Nobody is around Brazil praising hookers. They are still talked about behind their backs and carry a negative connotation. There are no Brazilians hoping their kid grows up to be a hooker. People just understand that it is what it is.[/QUOTE]Well said.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2527095]Great report. My brother will be going down for his firsr time next month with me and you gave me some good ideas for that trip.[/QUOTE]I agree. It's an excellent report. The only exception I have is there is an infinity of things to do in Sao Paulo. More than 20 M people live there. It's like New York as far as things to do. That said, it's not a vacation city like Rio.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2527139]I think you are misunderstanding. Although it is tolerated and a woman will not be persecuted, does not mean it does not carry a certain stigma. Nobody is around Brazil praising hookers. They are still talked about behind their backs and carry a negative connotation. There are no Brazilians hoping their kid grows up to be a hooker. People just understand that it is what it is.[/QUOTE]Agreed. There is absolutely a stigma.

Thanks for the English audio recommendation.

Pm me if you can help a bro on gdrive. Especially with the matching pdf files of books.

And.

Seriously the best material would be Hemingway "for whom the bell tolls" which is the only book Castro carried in his pack.

Some pop music (knofler, Jagger) is quality English.

On the subject of working girls, as my best friend from high school said. They're all working girls.

He was my best man but gladly I avoided marriage in the rich world.

I attach a picture of the Transamerica ie barravipsrio dot com pool.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2527070]I'll never graduate, LOL. Can't stick to the same country, even if I love Brazil more than any other place on earth. But I also love seeing places I've never seen before. I got this bug when I was traveling on business, and it stuck.

To each their own. My best buddy (not a monger) has been vacationing in the same place for the last 20+ years. Year after year. He thinks I'm nuts. Which is fine, I might be.

Anyway, for now I'm living vicariously through you, fearless warriors, until I'm done with my 2 shots.

If you really want to help your girls (and if they're motivated because it's boring like hell) throw your series out the window and get them Pimsleur American English for Brazilian speakers. I don't remember the exact title, but you've got the gist. It's easy enough and it'll get them started. Movies, videos, porn and pop-music might entertain them, but won't do shit until they're at least a little bit conversant.

Well, you're 50% right. That will drive the prices up, but they'll still be hookers.[/QUOTE]

From the east.

Best place to fuck during day is west end.

At night hop the fence on east side and fuck anywhere.

Danger is the best aphrodisiac.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2527088] I found RIO to be a much better relaxation / vacation location with good girls. You can't beat the views and activities you can do here. Hiking, swimming, sailing, paragliding, etc. You can find a diverse bunch of girls here (not much spinners but black girls for sure than SP) and they are much friendlier and playful. You definitely can spend a whole day with a girl here and have a good time without having sex which says a lot about the city..[/QUOTE]Nice report and overview of Rio vs. SP! Yes, Rio for me, the women, beaches, scenic outdoor views and adventures are amazing.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2524055] ... VM's squalor is kind of in keeping with that Rio and RJ state vibe of not giving a fuck -- kind of like the book with a title of a similar name, which was mostly written in Brazil. It's kind of a intentional allusion to the literal shitty and piss smelling life of most Rio residents of the lower classes. At least that is this architecture critic's impression.

Again, the best talent is found in VM, but also in particular in the Prive / Clinicas...[/QUOTE]I can't speak to the writers creative depiction of Rio and the RJ State vibe, but it presents an interesting point-of-view and food for throught.

I will say this, it is interesting to note, that Rio de Janeiro, for all it's beautiful squalor (IMHO), still remains one of the most beautiful top 10 cities in the world, on many critics and seasoned travelers' destination lists.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2527268]Nice report and overview of Rio vs. SP! Yes, Rio for me, the women, beaches, scenic outdoor views and adventures are amazing.

I can't speak to the writers creative depiction of Rio and the RJ State vibe, but it presents an interesting point-of-view and food for throught.

I will say this, it is interesting to note, that Rio de Janeiro, for all it's beautiful squalor (IMHO), still remains one of the most beautiful top 10 cities in the world, on many critics and seasoned travelers' destination lists.[/QUOTE]Top three for me would be Rio, Sydney, and Capetown.

I love Sydney.

The red light district there is interesting.

I stayed in it during the Olympics. With a girlfriend. Only hotel we could find without reservations.

I am trying to remember the name of a movie with a hooker which is shot in the Sydney red light district. Starts with her doing a Tupperware show for old women. With some male prostitute / sex worker. Great flick, wish I could find it.

I love some heroic working girls.

[QUOTE=Combo;2527278]Top three for me would be Rio, Sydney, and Capetown.[/QUOTE]

The best a working girl can hope for is a life described in.

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Scorpions-Sweet-Venom-Diary-Brazilian-ebook/dp/B004BDOM2Y[/URL]

There is a movie based on the book, for the less literate among us.

Unless she can produce a sex video with her and Vladimir Putin, or similar. Haha.

A top working girl will incorporate a business, list it as cosmetics. At least it is legal in Brazil, as [URL]economist.com[/URL] argues it should be everywhere. At the end of the day, being a housewife / baby machine is just work too.

[QUOTE=Combo;2527186]I agree. It's an excellent report. The only exception I have is there is an infinity of things to do in Sao Paulo. More than 20 M people live there. It's like New York as far as things to do. That said, it's not a vacation city like Rio.

Agreed. There is absolutely a stigma.[/QUOTE]

IE [URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/[/URL] pool picture

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2527242]From the east.

Best place to fuck during day is west end.

At night hop the fence on east side and fuck anywhere.

Danger is the best aphrodisiac.[/QUOTE]

Is "VM" the area around the VM nightclub and Marisol Bar on Rua Sotero dos Reis? I can't find "Vila Mimosa" on Google maps.

Also are most Rio girls a bit flexible regarding time? If she is having a good time could another hour be added on free after the first hour?

Hi guys.

First I apologize for my English.

I booked with Airbnb a room starting from today in Transamerica.

It is indicating that all people going to the room must register before and can only get to the room if validated by the owner and with extra charge.

In Transamerica does the lobby indeed check all the people going in? Or it is easy to get to the rooms without any control so that if I book a girl she can access to my room without problem?

Thank you very much.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527349]Is "VM" the area around the VM nightclub and Marisol Bar on Rua Sotero dos Reis? I can't find "Vila Mimosa" on Google maps[/quote]It is near Sao Cristovao Metro Station. I don't know street names. I just know how to get there.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527349]Also are most Rio girls a bit flexible regarding time? If she is having a good time could another hour be added on free after the first hour?[/QUOTE]That all depends. Maybe you got her off a hooker website and she has a customer scheduled right after you. Or maybe you picked her up at the hooker disco where they do not state time limits. There are no rules. Just make sure whatever it is that you have established it beforehand if it is something you are adamant about.

[QUOTE=Combo;2527184]Well said.[/QUOTE]Combo. There is a misquote on your part. I did not state this: ¨I agree. It's an excellent report. Only disagreement is there is a infinity of things to do in Sao Paulo (other than monger). More than 20 M people live there. It's like New York as far as things to do. That said, it's not a vacation city like Rio. ¨.

Nevertheless I do believe there are more fun things to do in Rio than SP.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527349]Also are most Rio girls a bit flexible regarding time? If she is having a good time could another hour be added on free after the first hour?[/QUOTE]It's certainly not automatic. Some girls perform like a champ, say goodbye and leave. With others if you establish a vibe and treat them well, it's very possible. If I like a working girl, I like to ask them if they want dinner, drinks or something. The more you treat a Brazilian working girl like a regular girl the more likely she will hang out. And yes, she will probably fuck you again if you're hanging out. However, don't get confused by reports of working girls fucking guys for free. Most of the time you have to periodically feed the meter even if the girl is having a good time.

If I catch a girl on her day off from the termas or prive, I find she is more inclined to not watch the clock. It's really all up to your game to naturally extend the "date". As Mr Enternational said, she might have to meet another client right after you. She might have plans with family later. There are no rules.

[QUOTE=Banb92;2527391]It is indicating that all people going to the room must register before and can only get to the room if validated by the owner and with extra charge.
In Transamerica does the lobby indeed check all the people going in? Or it is easy to get to the rooms without any control so that if I book a girl she can access to my room without problem?.[/QUOTE]For elevator, plastic room key is used to access your floor. Oftentimes, when busy there's a guy hovering around the elevators who may ask, although he's also there ostensibly to ensure covid compliance. Of course, for 'dating' girls who have a room there, no problem, although you may be walking some stairs to get to her floor.

Note: one girl refused to come to Transamerica, saying the place was 'notorious'. Had to laugh at that.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527349]Is "VM" the area around the VM nightclub and Marisol Bar on Rua Sotero dos Reis? I can't find "Vila Mimosa" on Google maps.

Also are most Rio girls a bit flexible regarding time? If she is having a good time could another hour be added on free after the first hour?[/QUOTE]Thank you very much. I am pretty sure Vila Mimosa is Rua Sotero dos Reis which is a 10 minute walk from the Sao Cristovao Metro Station. That's 22°54'29.8"S 43°12'56.8"W.

What if you tell a girl at the beginning "I am paying you now 200 real (or whatever the rate is) and I would be happy if you can stay longer than an hour. " and then see what happens.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527459]What if you tell a girl at the beginning "I am paying you now 200 real (or whatever the rate is) and I would be happy if you can stay longer than an hour. " and then see what happens.[/QUOTE]First of all there is no rate. You pay what you negotiate. Sure a chick might have posted 200 reais, but you can always negotiate that. The only time I take a first price that I am given is if it was already the price I had in my mind that I would pay.

Second of all you take care of time when you are negotiating. What if you finish work at 5 pm but were having a good time and your boss told you to stay longer with no extra pay? I would be like fuck that, pay me or I am going home. I have other shit to do.

It is your fun but it is someone else's job. Much easier to tell the cleaning lady I am going to pay you 200 to clean the floor, wash the clothes, do the dishes, and cook and have her accept that, than to say I am going to pay you 200 to clean then come back and try to add all the other shit to the list for the same price.

Don't try to see what happens. Negotiate for what it is that you want to happen. You are not the only item on people's to-do list.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2527306]IE [URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/[/URL] pool picture[/QUOTE]Sounds like a great place to stay for mongering but what about beach access, restaurants, shopping ect. How hard is it to get to the beach and back?

Its a block walk to the beach and a 10 reais uber to olegario Maciel 135, or a 100 m walk to av gastao senges 395, and the restaurant in the hotel is now open, on Instagram Castelbarra. Something I will look up.

It's the Beverly hills of Rio. I found yesterday Luciano huck lives in a big house across the street.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2527497]Sounds like a great place to stay for mongering but what about beach access, restaurants, shopping ect. How hard is it to get to the beach and back?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2527426]Combo. There is a misquote on your part. I did not state this: I agree. It's an excellent report. Only disagreement is there is a infinity of things to do in Sao Paulo (other than monger). More than 20 M people live there. It's like New York as far as things to do. That said, it's not a vacation city like Rio. .

Nevertheless I do believe there are more fun things to do in Rio than SP.[/QUOTE]Sorry. Trying to post using my phone is hazardous!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2527474]
It is your fun but it is someone else's job. Much easier to tell the cleaning lady I am going to pay you 200 to clean the floor, wash the clothes, do the dishes, and cook and have her accept that, than to say I am going to pay you 200 to clean then come back and try to add all the other shit to the list for the same price.[/QUOTE]I guess I'm hoping that she'll discover that she likes me and wants to hang out. In my humble opinion, I'm not bad company if her alternative is sitting home watching TV. However I see your point. It's a job and she's watching the clock just like I did prior to retirement. Watching that clock hit 5:00 PM and I am out of here! The moaning and orgasming is fake.

I think I'll just stay home with pornhub sigh.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527459]

What if you tell a girl at the beginning "I am paying you now 200 real (or whatever the rate is) and I would be happy if you can stay longer than an hour. " and then see what happens.[/QUOTE]If you want her to stay longer, just be upfront. It's much easier to negotiate extra time than a lower rate.

Otherwise, just play it by ear. Buy 1 hour and see what happens. If you're a good company, you might not even have to ask.

My experience is all over the place. Some girls would rush for the door at the first chance, others -- well, I wish they did.

Who was that guy who said famously. I don't pay them to come in, I pay them to get out?

Some girls would even spend the night for what today would be a 200 reals programa. You have a better chance if you stay in a super-nice rental or a hotel room, and if she doesn't have kids. I'm not a pernoite guy and prefer sleeping alone, but it helps for the morning wood. Although, once a girl had the audacity to hit me for more money in the morning, I tell everyone not to expect anything extra. Just as an extra precaution.

You will find that in general, Brazilian freelancers feel less mercenary than, I don't know, Dominicans, for example.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527680]I guess I'm hoping that she'll discover that she likes me and wants to hang out. In my humble opinion, I'm not bad company if her alternative is sitting home watching TV. However I see your point. It's a job and she's watching the clock just like I did prior to retirement. Watching that clock hit 5:00 PM and I am out of here! The moaning and orgasming is fake.

I think I'll just stay home with pornhub sigh.[/QUOTE]Is there anything in particular you recommend watching on Pornhub? Do I really need to create an account? What about the Premium service? Is it worth it? What if I decide I don't like it? Can I get a refund? Is there a trial membership? What if I want to extend my membership, do they offer a discount?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2527689]

Some girls would even spend the night for what today would be a 200 reals programa. You have a better chance if you stay in a super-nice rental or a hotel room, and if she doesn't have kids. [/QUOTE]I plan on renting a very nice airbnb. It will nice and comfortable with food, drinks, sex toys, etc. Of course air con and hot water.

For some reason I get the feeling that with Rio girls there is a higher chance of the "girlfriend experience" than there is in most other parts of the world, although perhaps I am misunderstanding.

Consider a very young beginner who has come from a village or slum somewhere. Perhaps a tall, white, mature man from New York City who takes care of himself would be sort of a turn on. What could be more glamorous and exciting than a guy from NYC? Even in the US, I've had experiences where pretty women out in the sticks perk up and pay more attention to me when hearing some some stories about my home town.

However I am just speculating.

By the way, in VM are there girls going around topless or nude or not really? It sounds sort of interesting. But where does she put the money?

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527706]I plan on renting a very nice airbnb. It will nice and comfortable with food, drinks, sex toys, etc. Of course air con and hot water.

For some reason I get the feeling that with Rio girls there is a higher chance of the "girlfriend experience" than there is in most other parts of the world, although perhaps I am misunderstanding.

Consider a very young beginner who has come from a village or slum somewhere. Perhaps a tall, white, mature man from New York City who takes care of himself would be sort of a turn on. What could be more glamorous and exciting than a guy from NYC? Even in the US, I've had experiences where pretty women out in the sticks perk up and pay more attention to me when hearing some some stories about my home town.

However I am just speculating.

By the way, in VM are there girls going around topless or nude or not really? It sounds sort of interesting. But where does she put the money?[/QUOTE]Enter a forum with tabula rasa (blank slate) and read from the back starting several months ago. You will get a feel for how things go down with the local girls. Your comment about "watching the clock" misses the mark about Brazil. Yes, the girls want to get paid. Some girls are laidback about time. Rio is likely the better place for finding the "laidback" girl, but you can find them in any Brazilian city.

Many of us are tall, white and from large, popular North American and European cities. (As a point, I've seen many African-Americans hold the interest of Brazilian girls.) Some of these girls have had more experiences than you can imagine. I had a Janet Jackson doppelganger that I met in a boate tell me she slept with a famous basketball player the prior week. Sure enough, quick search and he was in Brazil that week.

If you don't speak Portuguese it's going to be hard to talk about your home city with most girls. I know some basic Portuguese so most of my conversations are. Well basic.

In regards to Vila Mimosa, there are photos and videos on the internet.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527706]For some reason I get the feeling that with Rio girls there is a higher chance of the "girlfriend experience" than there is in most other parts of the world, although perhaps I am misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]You are spot on with that assessment. If there is something in life that you don't want to miss out on, then that would be a Rio experience (Thailand too).

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527706]Consider a very young beginner who has come from a village or slum somewhere. Perhaps a tall, white, mature man from New York City who takes care of himself would be sort of a turn on. What could be more glamorous and exciting than a guy from NYC? Even in the US, I've had experiences where pretty women out in the sticks perk up and pay more attention to me when hearing some some stories about my home town.

However I am just speculating.[/QUOTE]Well you can forget about that. 1960 left the building a long time ago. Exotic means nothing in the 2021 internet age. What is New York to them? They have Sao Paulo and Rio, which I think are both bigger than New York. You do know that Brazil has White people right?

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527706]By the way, in VM are there girls going around topless or nude or not really? It sounds sort of interesting. But where does she put the money?[/QUOTE]Sometimes, but in general no. I do not know what you are picturing, but VM is a slummy neighborhood/street. I think the manager of whatever bar they are working at keeps the money and pays them at the end of the day. If not, then there are lockers to put it in with the rest of their things.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2527439]For elevator, plastic room key is used to access your floor. Oftentimes, when busy there's a guy hovering around the elevators who may ask, although he's also there ostensibly to ensure covid compliance. Of course, for 'dating' girls who have a room there, no problem, although you may be walking some stairs to get to her floor.

Note: one girl refused to come to Transamerica, saying the place was 'notorious'. Had to laugh at that.[/QUOTE]Golfinho,

I meant to ask you what is your overall opinion of Transamerica? You seemed to dislike the rooms, but like the convenience of the working girls right there.

I am an experienced Rio traveler. My usual base is Copa or Ipanema. I like the beach. Do you recommend giving Transamerica a shot?

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2527706]Consider a very young beginner who has come from a village or slum somewhere. Perhaps a tall, white, mature man from New York City who takes care of himself would be sort of a turn on. What could be more glamorous and exciting than a guy from NYC?[/QUOTE]
She'll propably be so excited that she will give you a freebie. You should bring some NYC caps.

At the end of this month I am going to Angra dos Reis with a chick. I told her to find a place for us to stay. She just closed on a new condo, but wrote this to me the other day.

"I said I would make the reservation and pay for the hotel, but now I can't do that. I'm totally broke. I can make reservations and pay by credit card, but I need to know if you could share the amount with me. ".

This is the thing that sets Brazilian chicks apart. I do not remember her saying she was going to pay for the hotel. All I asked her to do was make the reservation. And even though she is broke, she is still trying to pay half.

They will pull their own weight unlike many freeloading chicks in other countries. Getting my ex-girlfriend to go places when she did not have money still is like pulling teeth. That woman refuses to go anywhere if she can not pay her share. I am not worried about that. I have money. I just want to go somewhere and have a good time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2527815]At the end of this month I am going to Angra dos Reis with a chick. I told her to find a place for us to stay. She just closed on a new condo, but wrote this to me the other day.

"I said I would make the reservation and pay for the hotel, but now I can't do that. I'm totally broke. I can make reservations and pay by credit card, but I need to know if you could share the amount with me. ".

This is the thing that sets Brazilian chicks apart. I do not remember her saying she was going to pay for the hotel. All I asked her to do was make the reservation. And even though she is broke, she is still trying to pay half.

They will pull their own weight unlike many freeloading chicks in other countries. Getting my ex-girlfriend to go places when she did not have money still is like pulling teeth. That woman refuses to go anywhere if she can not pay her share. I am not worried about that. I have money. I just want to go somewhere and have a good time.[/QUOTE]I can't get American women to pay half on a vacation and you found a Brazilian one who will? Great discovery!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2527815]At the end of this month I am going to Angra dos Reis with a chick. I told her to find a place for us to stay. She just closed on a new condo, but wrote this to me the other day.

"I said I would make the reservation and pay for the hotel, but now I can't do that. I'm totally broke. I can make reservations and pay by credit card, but I need to know if you could share the amount with me. ".

This is the thing that sets Brazilian chicks apart. I do not remember her saying she was going to pay for the hotel. All I asked her to do was make the reservation. And even though she is broke, she is still trying to pay half.

They will pull their own weight unlike many freeloading chicks in other countries. Getting my ex-girlfriend to go places when she did not have money still is like pulling teeth. That woman refuses to go anywhere if she can not pay her share. I am not worried about that. I have money. I just want to go somewhere and have a good time.[/QUOTE]Once in Sosua (of all places) and another time in Bangkok. The Sosua girl I met on a flight. She was a well-to-do local, not a working girl. She invited me to dinner and insisted (firmly, over my objections) that she'd pay the bill because she did the invite.

Another one was in Bangkok. That girl was a bar owner with excellent English. She was fun, and I really enjoyed talking to her. At the end of the evening, she waived all charges (also over my objections, and I DID drink a lot and had some food, too).

Well, here is a funny thing. I didn't sleep with either one. I'm sure I would, eventually, but that would take dating, and time is one thing I really do value more than money on my short trips.

Hookers have a different mindset. I never expect them to pay for anything, even a glass of water, and they never disappoint, LOL.

Guys,

I am planning a trip to Brazil for 2 weeks this year. Is it "rushing" the trip, if I spend one week in Rio and one week in SP?

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2527860]Guys,

I am planning a trip to Brazil for 2 weeks this year. Is it "rushing" the trip, if I spend one week in Rio and one week in SP?[/QUOTE]I did one week in both cities in the beginning of January and I would say if you have more time maybe do 10 days in each city if you have that luxury but 7 days in each is fine!

Sao Paulo is a very big metropolis so alot of places are scattered around the city.

Do the clinicas during the day 1-4 pm (they open earlier but there will be few girls in the morning as some work the boates and come home late and wake up later) most of the clinicas are located in moema / indianapolis. Abbobora, miruna, Carina's etc and all within walking distance. Very cheap and good amount of girls. Be sure to get a girls number on WhatsApp if you like them as they usually are more likely to meet up for fun or longer time for a good rate than girls from boated.

Check out the boates (scandallo, lotus club, cafe photo, bomboa 40) really relaxed environment with great diversity in girls but much more expensive than clinicas. The best time to go is around 9-10 pm so I heard.

If you want some online girls you're best bet is to contact them maybe a few days or the day you land in whatever city you go to as they travel and take down their page when they get too busy so best to get your foot in the door to see if she's even available. Always best to set something up in advance usually because these girls are always getting requests.

SP imo isn't very much fun compared to RiO but if you can find a girl to show you the city that would be the best route as it seems SP is one of those cities that can be fun if you know someone who knows where the cool places are.

Rio is a beautiful vacation paradise. Highly recommend you do a lot of sight seeing and enjoy the land because it really is a amazing city. As beautiful as the the girls.

Prives are like clincas, they are cheap and open in the day. The online girls here are more reliable as they are mostly in barra de tijuca in transamerica hotel. Some are in Copa too. They are also good for day time or night time fun.

Termas open around 5 pm and the best time to go is 5-9 pm. 4 x4, solarium, monte carlo and centaraus are the biggest and they all are pretty good but I liked MC the least. You go in change to a robe, put your things in a locker and go to the bar upstairs and choose your girl. The termas imo aren't as nice as clinicas or boates in SP as the rooms are small and so is the bar but the girls are very nice and you definitely can find a girl with god GFE who you can even spend some time around Rio with.

First time in Brazil and I had a great time so make the most of your trip and you will too!

Good luck.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2527860]Guys,

I am planning a trip to Brazil for 2 weeks this year. Is it "rushing" the trip, if I spend one week in Rio and one week in SP?[/QUOTE]It's perfect. I can't think of a better way for a hobbyist to spend two weeks. I'd do Sao Paulo the first week and Rio the last.

[QUOTE=Combo;2527940]It's perfect. I can't think of a better way for a hobbyist to spend two weeks. I'd do Sao Paulo the first week and Rio the last.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bearsi;2527924]I did one week in both cities in the beginning of January and I would say if you have more time maybe do 10 days in each city if you have that luxury but 7 days in each is fine![/QUOTE]Thank you guys both for the response. I am just checking Brazil's entry regulations now and they mention have a negative RT-PCR test before you enter. Do they provide testing when you land? Are the test results taken in at the airport before you fly to Brazil?

And when I fly back to my country from Brazil, will there be tests in the Brazil airport for me to take and are these generally free?

Thank you guys again.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2527860]Guys,

I am planning a trip to Brazil for 2 weeks this year. Is it "rushing" the trip, if I spend one week in Rio and one week in SP?[/QUOTE]I've been living in Sao Paulo for almost 6 yrs. Every weekend you can find me in Rio.

IMHO: Sao Paulo only works if you live here and you've cultivated your own fav spots (which can take years). I'd give Sao Paulo a night or two or three, if you don't know the ropes you'll just be spinning your wheels for a week, you'll be bored AF. SP's not worth your time unless you really do your research, you got to really look for your proverbial diamonds in the rough.

Plus, all the super hot working girls in Sao Paulo can be found partying' in Rio on the weekends!

Rio on the other hand is totally different animal, I'd take a fucked up day in Rio over a halfway decent day in Sao Paulo anytime!

Cheers!

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2527943]Thank you guys both for the response. I am just checking Brazil's entry regulations now and they mention have a negative RT-PCR test before you enter. Do they provide testing when you land? Are the test results taken in at the airport before you fly to Brazil?

And when I fly back to my country from Brazil, will there be tests in the Brazil airport for me to take and are these generally free?

Thank you guys again.[/QUOTE]I would imagine you would have to show the test at the airport before you fly and then to immigration once you land in Brasil. About 7 years ago a gate agent was scrutinizing my visa, when I asked in anything was wrong. She explained that if they allowed someone to fly to Brasil who didn't have a valid visa, they would be fined 25,000 dollars for the infraction. I am sure there is some sort of penalty in place for the covid test as well.

The Covid tests in Brasil are not free. You definitely have to pay for them.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2527943]And when I fly back to my country from Brazil, will there be tests in the Brazil airport for me to take and are these generally free?[/QUOTE]When I searched online the other day it seemed that almost every drugstore offers the test. If you make it to the airport without a test then you will just get turned back around to extend your vacation (if your country requires negative test results to enter). You better take the time away from your fun to get tested 2 days before traveling home.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2527943]And when I fly back to my country from Brazil, will there be tests in the Brazil airport for me to take and are these generally free?.[/QUOTE]Here is the actual information (firsthand, not imagined) as of nine days' ago: at Guarulhos departing Brazil there is a complete testing facility in operation, in departures T2 up and running where you may take the test and get the result (providing it's negative, of course) needed to board the flight to your home country. The cost was I believe about 50 US $ equivalent. They were stating it takes 4 hours to get your results, so obviously you would have to be at the airport in plenty of time. I mentioned this in an earlier post. Otherwise, as since people may be talking out their you know what's: drugstore tests advertising too-quick results were said to be not acceptable as some were 'handwritten. ' The results at drive-up testing centers in Barra for this reason were also (at the time, 24 January) not acceptable for entry to USA. For departing Rio, there's a testing center at Santos Dumont. Can't speak to GIG. Clearly, the situation is changeable.

The USCDC began restricting reentry into the US by requiring that travelers possess a negative result from a recent (<72 hours) viral covid test (either PCR or antigen). United Airlines is endorsing the solution found below. The clever idea is to order a test kit while in the US and travel with it to the foreign country. The user preforms the test procedure while being observed remotely via video. In about 20 minutes, the test kit returns the results which are displayed to the remote observer. The observer certifies the result and sends an official document to the user electronically. The user can then use the result document to leave the country.

The kits cost $25/kit. However, the minimum order is 6 kits.

Abbott Covid Test Product Info: [URL]https://www.globalpointofcare.abbott/en/product-details/binaxnow-covid-19-home-test-us.html[/URL].

Abbott Covid Test Procedure Video: [URL]https://youtu.be/OahDJZDfffQ[/URL].

I'm posting this information here only because I'm planning to return to RJ at the end of February.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2527924]I did one week in both cities in the beginning of January and I would say if you have more time maybe do 10 days in each city if you have that luxury but 7 days in each is fine!

Sao Paulo is a very big metropolis so alot of places are scattered around the city.

Do the clinicas during the day 1-4 pm (they open earlier but there will be few girls in the morning as some work the boates and come home late and wake up later) most of the clinicas are located in moema / indianapolis. Abbobora, miruna, Carina's etc and all within walking distance. Very cheap and good amount of girls. Be sure to get a girls number on WhatsApp if you like them as they usually are more likely to meet up for fun or longer time for a good rate than girls from boated.

Check out the boates (scandallo, lotus club, cafe photo, bomboa 40) really relaxed environment with great diversity in girls but much more expensive than clinicas. The best time to go is around 9-10 pm so I heard.

If you want some online girls you're best bet is to contact them maybe a few days or the day you land in whatever city you go to as they travel and take down their page when they get too busy so best to get your foot in the door to see if she's even available. Always best to set something up in advance usually because these girls are always getting requests.

SP IMO isn't very much fun compared to Ro but if you can find a girl to show you the city that would be the best route as it seems SP is one of those cities that can be fun if you know someone who knows where the cool places are..[/QUOTE]Thanks for this man. I'll be in Rio for a month in March for the first time ever in Brazil. What are clinicas, boates, prives, and Termas? Where is the hottest spot to meet girls there and what price ranges should I expect?

Thanks in advance brother.