Cali Reports

Sunday Nov 23, 2003 written in Medellin, Colombia

Gentlemen (and I use this term loosely),

There is so much to say about Cali I hope this post does not get too long.

While I had a GREAT time in Cali, I decided that it was not the place I wanted to live on a full time basis. The casas are great and there are many of them. The streetwalkers are great and there are many of them.

However, since Cali is a pueblo (read "small town" in English) I found it exceedingly difficult, impossible, to meet regular non-working women (for anything more than a casual chit-chat) as is so easy to do in other cities throughout the world. Perhaps I am socially inept or just getting older but I do not encounter this in Medellin or other cities. In fact, just this afternoon at the Cali airport I met 2 sweet young ladies from Bogota and we are planning on getting together in the coming weeks. One is even considering coming to Medellin to see me for a couple days. But this is just an example that I believe illustrates what I believe to be true: that women from the larger cities are more inclined to welcome meeting a foreigner.

The weather in Cali gets hot and humid in the afternoon but otherwise is quite pleasant.

Man, as far as apartments, yes I saw several but after deciding on not living in Cali, I did not pursue them further. Today, before leaving, I was shown (an English guy living there insisted on showing it to me) an apartment in Barrio El Penon and it was nice, newly renovated, about 40 square meters (a little small) for an asking price of about US$20,000 or less maybe; I really don´t remember exactly. I earlier saw a 250 square meter penthouse in a nice neighborhood for about US$90,000.

El Colorado, I stayed at Hotel El Penon in Barrio El Penon and I can and do recommend this hotel. Try to get room 1002 as it was really large and real nice. Slow dial-up internet access is available at the hotel but for twice what it will cost at a fast internet cafe and you don´t have the opportunity to meet Calenas while using the internet in the hotel. The hotel cost something like 83,000 pesos per night plus tax for a total or like US$36-40 depending on how you are getting your pesos. Personally, I travel with an ATM card with Cirrus access and get the international exchange rate at the time of the transaction. In my opinion, this is the only way to go.

If you like to play blackjack, I strongly suggest playing in the "21" game at the casino at Unicentro and not playing "blackjack". If you want details why, private message me.

By the way, I did not meet that Calena at the casino that night and it turns out I probably would have had more fun with her than I did otherwise.

In general, Cali is a great little town. I can see it as a great spot to settle down, get married and raise a family, if that is what you want to do.

There is one thing that needs to be said about Cali however and it concerns the myth that Cali has the most beautiful women in Colombia. For sure, there are a few fine looking ladies walking around; there are also lots of not-so-good looking ladies walking around. Give me Medellin or any number of other cities for the sheer number of good looking women out and about.

The people in Cali are universally friendly and the Calenas are extremely sweet girls but they want a traditional life with courtship, marriage, children and all that. That is great and if this is what you are looking for then definitely give Cali a "look-see."

As far as danger, I had not one problem in Cali and I went everywhere.

i am much relieved to hear that studplayer has chosen not to settle in cali. i would be even happier to hear that he had chosen to settle in another country and to never return to colombia because he is, in my opinion, the quintessential "ugly american". people like this make me ashamed to be a hobbyiest and an "american"as they give both a bad name. one expects to encounter this type in cambodia & thailand, but not in my beloved colombia! one of the things i love about colombia is the absence of deviants/predators like this, so it is most distressing to meet one in cali of all places.

i will not specifically state why i (and antifreeze) find his comments so repugnant, unless studplayer chooses to respond in which case i will post his exact comments so everybody here can make their own judgments. i try and be an ambassador of goodwill when i travel overseas to improve the often negative image people have of americans abroad, but one guy like that really undermines those efforts.

wendy at la clinica seemed like a very fresh, sweet, girl and i shudder at the horrors she must have endured with him in room #5.

and, finally, mr. "studplayer" the accent you have is about as far from "castillian spanish" that i have heard outside an intentional parody. but it is the content of that speech, both in comments made to me and in your interaction with the girls, that i find really revolting. and while antifreeze is too polite to post what he thinks of you, if he answers your call i have little doubt that he will not hesitate to tell you directly.

so mr. "stud" the ball is in your court. if you post further in this thread, i will quote you verbatim and let both jackson & the membership make their own judgments. please find another country, any other country, to defile with your presence. but leave colombia alone (it has enough problems with guerillas and criminals).

One reason Cali has the most beautiful girls in the world is because it also has so many plastic surgeons.

I actually dated and screwed a Doctor woman I met at an agency named Latin Connections, since out of business. She had big boobs and was looking for an american to marry her and take to the land of money, US. She was fairly good in bed, but a real pain to be around otherwise, expecting others to be her servant like in the operating room. Turned out her boobs were not real, also she had stab scars from having lipo on her thighs and waist. When they did her boob job they cut AROUND the aurelias and inserted their stuffing that way instead of under the boob. Her scars around the aurelias were quite large still and quite a poor job. I let the girl go and heard later she got another american to marry her. I wish them both well.

Alot better looking girls in Cali, but watch out for their strong temperment. I had one girl from Latin-Internet that I brought to the states 2 years back and she was angry alot, poked me in the eye once and I sent her back. She was also very controlling and critical of me, though she was very attractive.

The woman who ran Latin Connections, also had a boob job, braces on her teeth and was considering lipo. That was a few years, 4-5 years ago, but you can see the pressure the girls are under to look beautiful. One girl showed up at the Latin Connections house with a band aid over her nose, having recently had a nose job.

Hey AF I was in Cali for 2 weeks a while ago. The casas and chicas are incredible, but other than that and hanging at Chipichape and Ave. Sexta, I didn't find much to do. We were warned not to go outside the city to the countryside due to FARC. What the heck do you do when you aren't mongering? Am used to RIO and BA, with lots of coffee-houses, bookstores, movies, museums, etc. Also, altho statistically Cali is very dangerous, paradoxically I never really felt threatened or saw any violence when I was there. It seemed very quiet and peaceful. Have you seen any violence or problems? The Colombianas ARE incredibly nice, considering their hard lives (But 12 is too young except for Scotch whiskey). I think you would be better off marrying your average Colombian SW than marrying your average USA woman!

yeah dude, that's just wrong!

one of the reasons '****' and 'prostitution' get linked so much is because of shit like this.

there are plenty of mongers that like regular aged (albeit on the 18-24 side) women. it pisses me off that i get lumped with this stuff.

i'm probably skirting close to the forum guidelines here so i'll stop.

Antifreeze,

I just wanted to say ... I spend most of my time also in Colombia, though in Medellin.
You are 100 percent correct. The vast majority of 'working chicas' we meet are sweet, nice people. They are working due to hard luck circumstances they deal with everyday.
When you treat these girls with some kindness and respect you can feel how appreciative and sweet they are.

I don't care if a guy is visiting Cali, Medellin, Cartegena, etc ... have fun, meet lots of chicas ... but don't be an ass.

Las Colombianas son preciosas!

I had the opportunity to visit Cali the weekend just after Thanksgiving. It was a GREAT time to enjoy Kaliente. Thye sure had a variety of ladies, all sizes and shapes.

I chose a petite girl that was fantastic! She did everything I asked, and performed the actions just the way that we both can enjoy. She spent 3 hours with me and we had a great time.

I went the next night and chose another lady. She was recommended by another girl and the boss at Kaliente, but I was disappointed. She was a great kisser and that was about it.

I would highly recommend Kaliente.

I just got back from 16 days in Cali. It was great. I managed to rent an apartment in barrio Grenada, right across the street from Casa de Cervesa. I paid $500 for the whole month, but only used 16 days. It still worked out cheaper than a hotel and gave me much more room and comfort.

I tried out Nicole at Kaliente.com. She was great. $100,000 pesos ($37 US) for a non-stop hour. I followed up with several sessions with her over a week’s time. I also tried Dianah at La Masion for a four-hour take out session for $270,000 pesos (around $100 US). She was a pure 10 in looks, attitude and performance.

Using my guide, Andres Morales, I discovered the pleasures of the girls on Ave Sexta. Many seemed to be younger than in the casas and were drug users. They were generally $50,000 to $60,000 pesos for an hour and around $150,000 for all night.

I went to Chipe Chopi and Uni-Centro shopping centers several times for viewing, shopping and money exchange. I was turning my head so often that my neck hurt. Columbian girls are the most beautiful in the world. It was difficult to find an ugly woman.

I went to the most popular discos. While the girls were beautiful, there didn’t seem to be any pros or semi-pros. My guide Andres had numbers for several semi-pros, two of which were part-time models. Their looks were great, but their service wasn’t as good as the pros I had experienced. He brought over two Flores Fresca girls for an afternoon party, which got kind of wild. We ended up playing strip spin the bottle on the balcony after much Aquardiente.

I found ax ex-pat bar called Blues Brothers, which had some amateurs looking for gringos. The music there is great. I found a non-pro there and started dating her in the evening while hitting casas during the day. The non-pros take a long time to crack. After the second date, she wanted me to meet her family. I didn't do it yet; I’ve probably got 5 years on her father.

Some days I went to a pool called Arroyo Honda on the far north outskirts of town. It was only $1,000 or $2,000 pesos to enter (less than a dollar). It had several pools, tennis courts, restaurants and a masseuse. Lots of good-looking girls on the weekends.

We took cabs everywhere. They were plentiful and cheap. The guide kept me out of barrios and streets which were dangerous.

The food was great and cheap. The beef is very good and there was a great selection of seafood. Two steak dinners and 4 drinks cost less than $12 (US) at one place.

The police and military were out in great numbers. It made me feel more secure. You will generally be frisked before entering any bar or disco.

All in all, I had a great time and am thinking of returning in January. The GFE is harder to accomplish here than my usual mongering destination (Cuba), but there are more beautiful women there in greater numbers than Cuba.

El Colorado,

Congratulations on busting your budget so much! You overpaid almost everything during your trip. Kaliente, Flores Frescas, street girls at $50 - 60 000, an appartment for $500/month; Wow! You had thrown those American dollars around during that trip.

You are your own man, but I tell you that you are making, and others that are not price cautious, our lives more difficult down here. Remember Mexico? It used to be good. Remember Thailand? Well, the day might come when we'll say: remember Cali?

People: stop throwing money around like this because you are actually most probably destroying your next trip for the following year. Adapt to where you go. Don't bring America with you. There are prices for the places you go that are a fraction of what you pay for it in America. Pay in local prices.

Flores frescas is an intelligence test for gringos. No locals go there for a reason. It's overpriced, and underpussied. There are so many other places of way better quality for the fraction of the price (many of which I've posted addresses on this forum).

I do not want to attack in any way your character El Colorado, the fact on the matter is that I do not know you at all and you may just be a great guy. I am also pleased that you had a good time in Cali, it is indeed a great place. On the other hand, I do not ever want to say "remember Cali". Having Americans come in here and throw dollars like this doesn't help keeping Cali a cheap and good destination over time. It's actually the worst thing that could happen.

Food for thoughts.

Antifreeze,

Thanks for your good posts re overpaying. It just spoils the market place. I travel quite often to Cali and would like to meet you and perhaps have a beer. How do I contact you in Cali. I am hoping to be there sometime in January for a week or so.

Mongers,

I wonder if any of you are knowledgeable about Columbian Tours. They have a pretty sexy site full of gorgeous Latinas and sounds like a good way to get a solid guided tour of Cali while "Tasting-the-Talent".

One of these women, however, looks like a chica I had while in Costa Rica -- she too was from Columbia. This makes me wonder if the girls are pros. That's fine with me but I would like to know before taking the plunge, any thoughts?

Would appreciate any and all input. The site is: http://www.la.colombiantours.com/cali/tours.htm

Ez

Frijole,

In Medellin go to Loutron on Traversal Inferior near Templo antonio. This is up on the hill not too far from Hotel InterC. Also, Mirador Disco up on Las Palmas RIGHT above Hotel InterC is happening at night (Loutron is a daytime place like 11 to 8 or so).

I've been in Cali for about 10 days now and have some general information to report. Unfortunately, the Christmas holidays kill the sex business in Cali. Most girls are not working and there are many more men looking.

About the casas, there's an incredible number of them. One taxi driver will show you 5 casas, and the next taxi driver will show you a completely different set of 5. I wasn't impressed with the quality of women in most of the casas, but the price is right during the day ($15). At night, the casas I visited had doubled the price ($30) and the quality and quantity of women had dropped. I don't know if this is true in general, but I went to a couple last night and the price had doubled.

Avenue Sexta has a few street walkers out. There were about 15 at 1:00am on Sat night. They were ok quality and seemed friendly. Some may have been on drugs, but not all of them. I was surprised they were asking for $30 and not negotiating. For Cali, that seems expensive. They generally don't have a place to go and are perfectly willing to go to your hotel.

Personally, I feel the best Cali has to offer is the non-pro women. They are more attractive than the pros and are easy to approach.

I'll be here for 3 months and I'll post new info along the way.

-Kdog

Rastaman,

Flora Frescas has the best women. Also, the atmosphere is very nice. The music isn't too loud, the air conditioning works good (a rare thing in Colombia) and the women aren't pushy. One strange thing is there's really only a couple hours per day it's worthwhile to be there. Basically, 10:00pm-midnight. They have a show at 11:00pm. It will cost you 15 mil ($5) to get in, unless you go early (say before 9:00 pm) and the drinks are a little expensive. They charge 90 mil to take a girl for a half hour. As I understand, this includes the room and woman.

Frescas is known as a place where gringo's go and overpay for sex, but I don't entirely agree with this. Sure, it's expensive by colombian standards, but you're paying for high quality women in the nice club.

I believe the location is at the intersection of 20N and 4N.

I got wsg guru Antifreeze to give Frescas a try last night and he was surprised at the quality and quantity of women.

I had to go and see Flores Frescas. After all, I now live in Cali, and it is a destination worthwhile. I was right when I said that it is over-priced, but must admit that I was wrong when I said that it was under-pussied. There are some pretty impressive piece of Colombian art in there. Their show is also pretty good. I've seen 2-3 10's in the line-up.

But, now living in Cali, I really can't afford to do much in there. I just got excited in there and then walked a couple of streets down and get it out in a cheaper setting.