Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2966115]My advice: sell your rubles.[/QUOTE]You do not understand this conflict, or anything related, so I don't know why you're even in this discussion. You have nothing to contribute, you live in a fantasy world.

[QUOTE=Questner;2966153]...interview with American journalist Tucker Carlson...

- Stabilizing the situation in Syria is not easy, it is a complex game involving many actors...[/QUOTE]Tucker is not a journalist in any sense of the word. Your post is simply regurgitated Russian propaganda; however, I do agree with you on the last point. While I'm not exactly rooting for the rebels, I am happy that it is weakening Russia. They are desperate to maintain their military presence in Syria and have been forced to divert military forces there. I don't expect the Syrian conflict to be definitive to the war in Ukraine, but it does help. I am hopeful that they will be able to seize the Russian naval base in Latakia.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2966270] While I'm not exactly rooting for the rebels, I am happy that it is weakening Russia. They are desperate to maintain their military presence in Syria and have been forced to divert military forces there. I don't expect the Syrian conflict to be definitive to the war in Ukraine, but it does help. I am hopeful that they will be able to seize the Russian naval base in Latakia.[/QUOTE]This is why people like you are disgusting and hypocritical. When it suits you, you call them rebels, when in reality they are designated TERRORISTS by all the west. Admit it, you are rooting for them because you think it will weaken Russia.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2966275]This is why people like you are disgusting and hypocritical. When it suits you, you call them rebels, when in reality they are designated TERRORISTS by all the west. Admit it, you are rooting for them because you think it will weaken Russia.[/QUOTE]While many (but not all) of them are terrorists, they're at least not nuclear-armed terrorists like Russia. If they're capable of distracting your failed mafia state terrorist armed forces--even a little bit--that's already a big help.

People are getting fed up. Syria, Georgia, Abkhazia, Armenia. Things are starting to look up. Trump might simply not be able to save his BFF.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2965894]Like I said in another thread, hypocrites are the worst.

Propacondoms providing the murderous Putin regime with the informational fog cover are worse than traditional war criminals like their generals, politicians and frontline sadists and murderers who rape, torture and kill civilians and prisoners of war. Their feigning empathy makes them more despicable than actual killers.[/QUOTE]I'd guess there are only two participants in this thread who've actually lived or spent a lot of time in the FSU, Blood Red and Questner. The rest of us may have spent a few weeks here and there in Russia or Ukraine and read from our favorite media sources, but we really don't understand the situation like they do. We're like the French guy who's currently posting in the American Politics thread.

Here's something I posted some months back.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2927745]This is a message I got today from a western business associate who worked in the FSU for a couple of decades. It's about one of his business partners who was originally from the Donbas. I've omitted places and names so I don't "out" myself or him.

*****s extended family, Aunts and Uncles and cousins live in (Name of city and area in Donbas) under the jack-boot of the Ukrainian Army and last time I heard feed-back about six months ago, they were fearing for their lives daily. Skin-heads patrol the streets and pistol whip any dissenters. They are afraid to speak Russian as they have a mixed Russian and Cossack heritage. *****s aunt and uncles and cousins have been living in their respective basements for a few years now, one cousin died of a heart attack last year (only 30 years old). ***** was devastated, it's all very sad for Ukrainians to be thrust into a major war with one of the most effective yet brutal armies historically and the west pouring weapons in, to 'save Ukraine just increases the misery of the people who can't do much as they don't live in a democracy as we understand it.[/QUOTE]In addition to living in Russia and having the partner who's from eastern Ukraine, he lived through and fought in the struggle that may be the closest thing to the Russia / Ukraine war in the English speaking world during our lifetimes. He's not, as you say, a "useful idiot. " Neither are you. And Questner and Blood Red are not "propacondoms. " Rather, we're posters in a thread on a hooker board that's read by a handful of people.

[QUOTE=Questner;2966153] ... American journalist Tucker Carlson... [/QUOTE]The word journalist is getting abused here.

This is the guy who was amazed by the futuristic shopping cart technology in a Moscow mall (You can lock them with tokens or coins! They don't slide back on a moving walkway!) and swallowed Putins lie that it was the fault of Poland that poor mass murderers Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland in September 1939.

If you believe that guy is a journalist you probably have at home a testicle tanning device.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2966275]This is why people like you are disgusting and hypocritical. When it suits you, you call them rebels, when in reality they are designated TERRORISTS by all the west. Admit it, you are rooting for them because you think it will weaken Russia.[/QUOTE]The rebel group is comprised of many factions: reconstituted Al Qaeda, Druze, Christians, Kurds and random groups that just want to get rid of al Assad. I believe most of the coordination and intelligence for the rebellion comes from Turkey. I am in favor of a pluralistic, democratic Syria and I agree with you that Al Qaeda, regardless of what they call themselves now, are terrorists. I am also against the suffering of the Syrian people; however, I believe a brutal, totalitarian, revanchist Russia is a far greater threat to peace and should be resisted by the forces of Democracy. I don't want to see one dictatorship exchanged for another in Syria, but I do rejoice in anything that weakens an imperialistic, hegemonistic, fascist dictatorship -- Russia. To a lesser extent I feel the same way about Iran, which is a religious dictatorship that recklessly and needlessly interferes in the affairs of neighboring states. I say 'to a lesser extent' because they are not currently engaged in the invasion of another sovereign state and the murder of tens of thousands of its citizens.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2966305]I am in favor of a pluralistic, democratic Syria [/QUOTE]You don't know shit about Syria. It will never be a democracy.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2966301]I'd guess there are only two participants in this thread who've actually lived or spent a lot of time in the FSU, Blood Red and Questner. The rest of us may have spent a few weeks here and there in Russia or Ukraine and read from our favorite media sources, but we really don't understand the situation like they do. We're like the French guy who's currently posting in the American Politics thread.[/QUOTE]If only those who have spent a lot of time in Russia or Ukraine are qualified to speak on this matter, then it's a big tell that you aren't listening to the slew of Ukrainians that are saying the same things as Xpartan. No your "preferred media sources" are unattributed copy and pastes and paraphrases from Russian state media, while spending half your day cuddling your nose in Questner and Blood Red's buttholes. And, at your suggestion, in a forum that hardly anyone reads. What a life, huh? Wink.

[QUOTE=Riina;2966310]You don't know shit about Syria. It will never be a democracy.[/QUOTE]He probably also thinks that Ukraine will get Crimea and the 4 new Russian regions back through diplomacy. He probably also believes in Zelensky's 'Victory Plan'.

[QUOTE=Riina;2966310]You don't know shit about Syria. It will never be a democracy.[/QUOTE]It's aspirational.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2966301]I'd guess there are only two participants in this thread who've actually lived or spent a lot of time in the FSU, Blood Red and Questner. The rest of us may have spent a few weeks here and there in Russia or Ukraine and read from our favorite media sources, but we really don't understand the situation like they do. We're like the French guy who's currently posting in the American Politics thread.[/QUOTE]1. You are obviously a Russophile. Which explains why you're looking for all possible and impossible excuses for Russia's monstrosity.

2. That pair that you revere so much are liars. I don't give a flying duck that they lived and traveled in Russia. Would you have to be a resident or frequent traveler to Germany, China or Cambodia to figure out that Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot did some monumentally shitty things?

3. How hard is it to understand the nature of Russia's aggression? How hard is it to see the unspeakable atrocities committed against civilians by their so-called armed forces? How hard is it to see the extreme level of oppression against their own population? Really, Tiny, you have to be willfully blind.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2966301]In addition to living in Russia and having the partner who's from eastern Ukraine, he lived through and fought in the struggle that may be the closest thing to the Russia / Ukraine war in the English speaking world during our lifetimes. He's not, as you say, a "useful idiot. " Neither are you. And Questner and Blood Red are not "propacondoms. " Rather, we're posters in a thread on a hooker board that's read by a handful of people.[/QUOTE]1. What is that "struggle that may be the closest thing to the Russia / Ukraine war in the English speaking world"? Unless you're talking about Northern Ireland (not even NEARLY the closest thing) I can't think of anything.

2. No one banned or is banning the Russian language even now during the war. There are soldiers WITHIN AFU who don't speak Ukrainian, and no one gives a fuck. All fairytales about suppression of Russian language in Ukraine is Russian propaganda. There is no truth in it.

3. I have 90% confidence that RedBlood is a paid Russian propacondom (and not very good one at that). Questner is (most likely) not a paid propacondom. Just a fanatic who believes in the future of the Russian empire. Russian nationals like him who're in love with Putin yet prefer living in the West they hate so much, are dime a dozen. From what I understand, RedBlood lives outside Russia too. Funny how they go out of their way to stay away from the motherland they love so much.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2966337]If only those who have spent a lot of time in Russia or Ukraine are qualified to speak on this matter, then it's a big tell that you aren't listening to the slew of Ukrainians that are saying the same things as Xpartan. No your "preferred media sources" are unattributed copy and pastes and paraphrases from Russian state media, while spending half your day cuddling your nose in Questner and Blood Red's buttholes. And, at your suggestion, in a forum that hardly anyone reads. What a life, huh? Wink.[/QUOTE]

You've been wrong about this for a long time. Many have died. A majority of Ukrainians want negotiations soon to end the war. They don’t want to continue as cannon fodder in the cause of western Neoconservatives.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2966473]You've been wrong about this for a long time. Many have died. A majority of Ukrainians want negotiations soon to end the war. They dont want to continue as cannon fodder in the cause of western Neoconservatives.[/QUOTE]Now they want to lower the conscription age to 18 years. I bet many here will support that. Those kids will go to the frontline and die for nothing.

Until the last Ukrainian, right?

Horrific.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2966405]It's aspirational.[/QUOTE]Yeah LOL. Remember how the American attempt to export democracy to Iraq turned out?