2006 Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Started out [b]Soi 8: [/b]
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Got her her money and sent her home, she asked me for my phone number (which I never give) but took hers, she asked me if she could come by Tomorrow (today) if she feels lonely, I was very evasive and this is exactly the reason why I hate bringing girls to my condo.

Call me crazy, but I hope she doesn't show up.

But if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do I have to pay her or something? Maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. I know very well about Massage joints and etiquette but what about Bars and these situations? I am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.

All in all, I'd say it was a Good Evening and a GREAT night.
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Hey NicFrenchy,

Not being able to call me an expert in that, but some common sense may reach.

I am sure that you may not need to pay for it next time! But what does it mean?

The girl felt obviously comfortable in your environment. And I guess about 80% of them would feel the same, combined probably with a somehow nice attitude of you, with which I assume.

The girl sees a luxury apartment, a dream to live in. You may have behaved nice to her.
The result is, she will do the utmost to qualify (or come closer) to a ' more girlfriend status'. You are for sure the primary target for a longer relationship for many of the girls. Who of the girls will insist on any short minded money discussion at that time, given that chance? Sooner or later she will see (as she expects) a benefit out of that. Instead of direct payment for sex it would be indirect. Living in nice environment (sometimes), being somehow in another lifestyle (with some clothes occasionally, some diner etc.).
I expect it can be a nightmare and you have to decide which way you go.

If she is so hot that you want to bang her occasionally then I recommend to better pay her each time instead of sum it up. (Payment each time could be reduced by 500 baht - what by the way did you pay?- given a repeitive somehos stable income for her.)

It would indicate that it is still a business relationship and not a private one (for her it would be a business anyhow, just the 'private' would be more indirect payment/ payment in goods). Otherwise it can end in a nightmare.

I think overall experience here is that it is better to complete 'transactions' at a time and avoid any situation that somebody could potentially sum up somehow later.

Let us know your decision

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]...I think overall experience here is that it is better to complete 'transactions' at a time and avoid any situation that somebody could potentially sum up somehow later...[/QUOTE]I second your wise suggestion. If you don't complete transactions you build up obligations. And that's exactly what you don't want.

I once picked up a girl on Sukhumvit at 2 am who actively refused to accept any money I offered her. (Hard to believe, even for me now). It was kind of difficult to get out of this without trouble, but she is really nice and I managed finally without bad feelings from both sides. That only because I told her that I am married when we first met.

I agree with the comments from JB and Brian.

It is completly normal for a bargirl to behave like this in this type of situation. They are always on the lookout for a "boyfriend, but not" type guy who will give them a sense of security in their chaotic bargirl life.

Although for the most part I agree with JB's "when in doubt, pay" philosophy (as that will keep everything business orientated and eliminate any risk). There is a middle area between pure business and a realationship.

She obviously enjoys being around you, so there is a very good chance that if you see her again, money may not come up at all. If she is hot like you said, she makes plenty of money.

Does that mean she's your girlfriend? No

Does that mean you are automatically locked into some sort of commitment? No

I don't think she would just show up at your place without calling, but I suppose there is always a chance.

I deffinetly understand your concern and its warrented, but I'm just saying its completly possible to have a 'friendship' with a BG without things getting out of hand.

Keep us updated

(New here. Nice to meet you all, BTW.)

Thanks for the advance,

Much appreciated, from previous experiences I won't be mongering day and night every day will need to give myself time to recover evry couple of days! Will be booking all hotels etc before I come so spending will just be on the usual stuff. Can't say I would drink black label far to strong for my liking! Rather stick to a few beers!

Any recommendations on where I can go for the DDG girls, I've heard the pent club or hollywood club are quite good, anyone been there? Would like to treat myself and have atleast 1 DDG gal whilst I'm in BKK!

[QUOTE=Fox Two]In my opinion, £1600 will be more than enough for one short time/massage during the day, a LT during the evening and plenty left over for food/travel/incidental expenses, everyday for your entire trip. This assumes your tastes do not require absolute DDG model quality girls every night and your regular drink doesn't include large quantities of Old #7 Black Label or Don Julio Tequila Anejo.

Expect the asking price for LT to range from £31 for moderately attractive to £62 for model quality. What you actually pay will depend on your chemistry and your negotiating skills.

There are always women around. I was in LoS around July/August last year and the hunting was quite good. There's less competition since it's not the "high season" yet. The following reports describe how I experienced things during my visit:

Part 1:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488232#post488232[/url]

Part 2:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488546#post488546[/url]

Part 3:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=490984#post490984[/url]
Part 3 Addendum:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491340#post491340[/url]

Part 4:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491363#post491363[/url]

Part 5:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=497928#post497928[/url]

Part 5 has a list of my suggestions based on my experience/tastes/interests.

To add to that, I would comment that sex two/three times a day for 12 days straight can be pretty strenuous unless you have the lebido of a teenager or use some sort of "recreational pharmaceutical". You will probably have a day or two in there that you just want to rest alone and "recharge".

Cheers,

Fox Two[/QUOTE]

-But if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do I have to pay her or something? Maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. I know very well about Massage joints and etiquette but what about Bars and these situations? I am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.-

Hey Frenchy,

If you do not pay her EVERYTIME, you will pay a much, much higher price emotionally & maybe physically later.

Hey Mich,

Try BarBar in Patpong: [url]http://www.barbar-bangkok.com/home.html[/url]
I've never been there but it looks interesting. If you go, please give a report.

TKP1

[QUOTE=Mich69]Hi all,

I tried both well known dungeon places in Bangkok, Chateau jade and Midori. Chateau Jade I found much more friendly and more exciting than Midori. However, both places do not offer any sexual practices.

Does anyone know a place where one gets a mixed treatment - painful pleasure combined with sex?

Please let me know. Thanks.

Regards,

Mich69[/QUOTE]

If you want a guarantee DDG, your best bet is to go to MP like Utopia. Go to the high end level and pick a girl. The MP usually close at 11pm. You can always make a side deal with them for after work activity.

Girls are not easy to pick up in places like Hollywood if you can not speak Thai. DDG is a matter of taste. If you are looking for semi pro, the local usually go to the coffee house at the Siam Hotel in Petchaburi or the In Love coffee house in Ratchadapisek area. This is usually where my colleagues take me when I am in BKK.

The Thai men prefer more fair skin girls. If this is your taste then the above recommendation will hold. If you prefer the dark skin girls, then any of the bars in Sukhumvit lower Soi area will be the place to be.

The local Thai girls who like to party usually hangs out in the Soi 55 Thonglor area in Sukhumvit.

Good luck and good hunting.

[QUOTE=Jayk007]Thanks for the advance,

Much appreciated, from previous experiences I won't be mongering day and night every day will need to give myself time to recover evry couple of days! Will be booking all hotels etc before I come so spending will just be on the usual stuff. Can't say I would drink black label far to strong for my liking! Rather stick to a few beers!

Any recommendations on where I can go for the DDG girls, I've heard the pent club or hollywood club are quite good, anyone been there? Would like to treat myself and have atleast 1 DDG gal whilst I'm in BKK![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayk007]
Any recommendations on where I can go for the DDG girls, I've heard the pent club or hollywood club are quite good, anyone been there? Would like to treat myself and have atleast 1 DDG gal whilst I'm in BKK![/QUOTE]

I have been to the Pent. Quite nice and great selection of girls (100+, by rough estimate). Well worth the look. The place is loud, at least in the stage area. There's a band. There's also alot of people talking.

There's a pool area that you past through, to get to a back bar area, where there are many more girls. I have never seen that pool in use. Too bad. Lot's of bodies I would not mind seeing in a Bikini.

AT2

thanks guys. i really appreciate your help.

i saw her a second time and we had as much fun as the first.

it's funny because i initially offered st and she refused, she said she wants lt and insisted we go to my place.

we did and it was great. the guard at the entrance was asleep (mouth open) when we arrived and even the noise from her heels did not even wake him up.

paid her 2000 (same as last time) and she accepted it (normal since i got her from the bar).

we talked a little about each other and i told her i am a big butterfly, she giggled and said she knows because she saw me many times in cowboy, she even told me she saw me go out with some baccara girls.

how the hell do these girls do it? where do they store all the memories? i was speechless but happy she understood this would never go past the client-provider relationship... or maybe she has set herself a goal of trying to corrupt me? lol

i did buy a new 1000 thb crappy cellphone @ mbk and have a prepaid card in it, i gave her the number in case. first time i do this, but i don't care, if it gets out of hand, i’ll just throw away the sim card.

Hey Guys,

I arrive in Bangkok in 2 weeks and will post reports for all.

Can someone please recommend a good place close to soi 4 for a real traditional thai massage.

There so cheap I would like to have one every day but is there a place renowned for being the best or great within 5 mins walk from soi 4?

Thanks in advance,

Rob

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Thanks guys. I really appreciate your help.

I saw her a second time and we had as much fun as the first.

It's funny because I initially offered ST and she refused, she said she wants LT and insisted we go to my place.

We did and it was great. The Guard at the entrance was asleep (mouth open) when we arrived and even the noise from her heels did not even wake him up.

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Nic,

Should have popped a Viagra in his mouth and see if he woke up with a hard-on he couldn't get rid of. LOL!

AT2

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Got her her money and sent her home, she asked me for my phone number (which I never give) but took hers, she asked me if she could come by Tomorrow (today) if she feels lonely, I was very evasive and this is exactly the reason why I hate bringing girls to my condo.

Call me crazy, but I hope she doesn't show up.

But if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do I have to pay her or something? Maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. I know very well about Massage joints and etiquette but what about Bars and these situations? I am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.

All in all, I'd say it was a Good Evening and a GREAT night.
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Nic Frenchy,

Firstly let me that I feel a lot of emphathy with your reports.
I feel that you are a wayward monger like me, but are still a nice guy with the girls, not too stingy, and clearly girls like you.
However I would have fucked her in the morning again because I'm always horny in the morning, not much is open, and a bird in the hand .... :-)

You have got yourself a Mongering phone number so it can be switched off or the SIM disposed of if you have a serious girlfriend and don't want to monger anymore (I'm not serious here :-) Set the ring to buzz so you don't always have to answer or set different rings for different girls if the phone has that feature.

Its very common for girls to want phone numbers.
One massage girl with big tits rang me persistently for days before she finally gave up on last trip, but I was busy and chemistry with her wasn't there (she seemed money hungry).

Not all bar girls are the same. Some can be very nice girls and some could even be looking for a nice boyfriend.
I have met bargirls whose character was far too good for what I deserve (but rarely).

She had a good time with you and made some money. Now clearly she would love to spend more time with you taking her away from the dreary bar life.

I would advise to keep paying her until she refuses to take it.
If she keeps refusing to take the money, you will have to start wondering what is going on then, but these girls obviously need money to pay the bills.

Sometimes they might give the odd freebie to indicate that they really do like you heaps despite being a bargirl.

In general I have found that girlfriends are more expensive in the long run, especially if they don't have a non P4P job, since you would end up supporting them full time. So its easier to pay for services rendered.

Thanks for your reports on Angels. I will certainly try it for the first time on next visit to Thailand end of July, assuming I don't get too carried away with a girl I know well already.

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]I have been to the Pent. Quite nice and great selection of girls (100+, by rough estimate). Well worth the look. [/QUOTE]
What type of place is this? Standard disco/nightclub? And what kind of girls are these? I mean aside from DDG -- are they clearly working or is this a spot that would be very difficult for somebody not Thai-fluent to navigate?

My experience with straight SEA nightclubs is that it's awful tough to mix and mingle with people (and therefore, with the girls) since they're all at separate tables in groups, which makes it awkward to approach, esp. if you don't speak the language. It's also tough to tell which groups are just friends hanging out together, and which are girls who might be available and working. And then often if it is someone who's working, they've often already been taken by someone else, and that's who's at their table.

Usually I just give up on this kind of scene and go elsewhere, just too difficult. But maybe I'm going about it wrong. Or maybe this place isn't like that. Hope so. Sounds interesting.

Hi NIcFrenchy

As I have read in your report you have just got your "Grilie Phone".

I have one since 2 years (not for Thailand - Live in Nigeria).

One tip for the phone, get a camera phone. After a while you will have numerous Lek's, Noi's and what ever. When storing the number take a picture and save it under the number. That way you save a lot of brain power.

Hello Rob,

There's a place in Washington Square right across the street from New Square Pub One called Huttasat 2. Last time I went about a year ago, they charged 250bht for a 2 hour massage. Cheapest I found by far. At this price, of course I tipped my massage girl well.

Washington Square is located just off Sukhumvit Soi 22. I always stay at the Nana Hotel on Soi 4. You can either walk for 10 mins or take the sky train one stop to Asoke, 15bht. 3 mins.

Check out this map: [url]http://www.bangkokeyes.com/mapwash.html[/url]

Enjoy,

TKP1

[QUOTE=Nufc9]Hey Guys,

I arrive in Bangkok in 2 weeks and will post reports for all.

Can someone please recommend a good place close to soi 4 for a real traditional thai massage.

There so cheap I would like to have one every day but is there a place renowned for being the best or great within 5 mins walk from soi 4?

Thanks in advance,

Rob[/QUOTE]