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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]The statement by the PRO was that Mango girls are lesbians. That is pure bull shit, they are not lesbians but most girls at many places will do a girl for the[/QUOTE]Put your glasses on old man. My post says "DO LESBIAN" and not "ARE LESBIAN".What I said means they will do it, yes, getting paid for it.Just like Rin or any other girl.I do not attempt to say they are lesbian, although some are swinging both ways by choice, not for the job only.Doh. Learn how to read before you start your emotional tirades, its very tiring.
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Massage Parlor Questions
Hey everyone,I've always been a big fan of this board, but this is my first time writing in. I'm based in Vietnam but will be making some frequent trips to Bangkok for business in the upcoming months. I was wondering what the scene is like in some of these massage parlors if you just want a BJ and no FS. Is that OK? Obviously the girl wants as much money out of you as she can get, but is there somewhere that gives a decent massage with a nice shower and a full on BJ to finish? Recommendations?I should specify that I've already been to Akana, and while I like it, I've always found the girls to be a bit below par on the looks side of things. Some of these places (Angel, Mango, Snow White) are getting good reviews, and so I was wondering if they would be good places for this kind of activity. One-price places seem out because it wouldn't be very smart on my wallet. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give. And also, what's the story on photographing some of your exploits? Does anyone know a girl that's open to that, in the room? Just something I like to keep a record of when I can. Ha ha.Some great info on this board and I look forward to contributing what I can.
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[quote=photo 79]i was wondering what the scene is like in some of these massage parlors if you just want a bj and no fs. is that ok? [/quote]do a search for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and star of light - they are the two more traveled bj bars. any mp can service you - just talk to the papasan and tell him you want someone will be give you good bj and no fs required.your wallet will be empty either way you go....
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[quote=traveler1234]do a search for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and star of light - they are the two more traveled bj bars. [/quote]thanks for the reply traveler. think i'd rather go to an mp than a bj bar though. at least from what i've read!
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[QUOTE=Photo 79]Hey everyone,I've always been a big fan of this board, but this is my first time writing in. I'm based in Vietnam but will be making some frequent trips to Bangkok for business in the upcoming months. I was wondering what the scene is like in some of these massage parlors if you just want a BJ and no FS. Is that OK? Obviously the girl wants as much money out of you as she can get, but is there somewhere that gives a decent massage with a nice shower and a full on BJ to finish? Recommendations?I should specify that I've already been to Akana, and while I like it, I've always found the girls to be a bit below par on the looks side of things. Some of these places (Angel, Mango, Snow White) are getting good reviews, and so I was wondering if they would be good places for this kind of activity. One-price places seem out because it wouldn't be very smart on my wallet. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give. And also, what's the story on photographing some of your exploits? Does anyone know a girl that's open to that, in the room? Just something I like to keep a record of when I can. Ha ha.Some great info on this board and I look forward to contributing what I can.[/QUOTE]Plenty of guys go to Oily MPs for BJ and don't bother with full sex. But the massage may be a bit ordinary.But its probably difficult to get expert massage and expert BJ in the same place. Can be found though if happen to know the right girl well trained in massage.I have no great interest in massage so I'm not expert.I don't think its a good idea to get a haircut and BJ in same shop! So why not get good massage and good blow job in separate venues too?
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Angels 24/1 - Cherry
After being disappointed (okay, not disappointed, just not had 1st/2nd/3rd choice) on many visits to Angels I finally managed to bag Cherry. From later conversation, today was a low Japanese count day - she is normally taken by Japanese and I was her first farang customer for a long time. Oh lucky day.On first glance, when she appeared at my side, I was a wee bit taken aback, she was not quite what I was expecting from the photos on the website or in the book - shorter and older. Saying that, upstairs after a few minutes, I could see what I was looking for. After some chat I learn that the photos were taken when she started at Angels 4 years ago and were ?close-up? giving the impression of being taller. She is short - 4?6?ish. Saying that, when undressed she has a cracking body on her, a very small belly and very good handful of firm breast.Cherry is good fun and always chatting away. She has some English but that doesn?t stop her chatting. She really is good fun. In the shower she is asking a lot about the water temp. I had to ask her why and she starts telling me about a (Japanese) customer who decided to shower before she got back to the room with her basket of ?stuff?. The room had a dodgy shower thermostat but the girls knew about it -the customer didn?t. After much wailing the said customer was whisked of to hospital missing the top layer of skin from his ?? You can guess the rest.I must admit to laughing a lot at this point but holding my nuts at the same time. She wasn?t too impressed at the laughing so tactfully asked her for no more details.Back to the service. As I have said, Cherry is good fun. She has a fit body on her as well. On this visit to BKK compared to the last 9 months ago, the oily body slide seems to be the norm (good stuff). Cherry does this then leads into the cat-bath (nice as well). Flipped over, more body slide and cat-bath and I thought I was into a BBBJ but looked down to see she had slipped a condom on (skilful). A good few positions follow with happy ending for both, I think, good for me anyway.Some more chat afterwards before the shower and she is asking why farang want to come on her face or chest and not in condom inside her. Seems this is a cultural thing. Only explanation I could offer was porn ??..Looks 8.5Body 8.5Effort 8.5Attitude 9.0Would I repeat - hell yeah!
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]. Guys like me, though fairly knowledgeable and experienced (I am no cherry boy. I have been to BKK at least a dozen times since '89 and cumulatively have spent around 60 days here) can never or almost never get to the graduate level because we don't live in LOS and do not speak the language. The true test is if you are able to have a relationship with a non p4p Thai girl. We all see these beauties working in shopping malls (department stores), restaurants and hotels. Sometimes if they smile at me and make eye contact; I will engage them in pleasant conversation. If that goes well I ask them out for a casual drink, but so far I have not been successful in getting them into my bed. I have had some great sexual adventures in LOS and have no complaints, but the real prize would be getting it on with a regular girl. Anyway, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it..[/QUOTE]Bro,What you are longing for is quite natural. In fact there is little to no excitement in bonking a straight-to-the-point p4p-gal. The real excitement is first to "conquer" a lady by means of conversation/drinks/dinners/whatever. That's the real thing. Bonking a p4p-gal is too easy, you only need a dick and some money. There's nothing wrong with that, but like you already stated: the real prize is getting it on with a regular gal.Don't feel offended but I am always amused by those stories of dudes who talk as if they are great heroes because they bonked some massage-gal.
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You are not missing anything!Its just like anything else, when you cannot have it you want it, when you can have whenever you want it its suddenly not that appetising anymore.Thai girls can be clingy and demanding, and therefore its why the P4P scene is so big here. You pay the girl to "go away". Eg you finish your fun and pay her and she goes. She goes not call you, bother you, SMS you or whatever.When you start in the non-P4P girls you meet lots of clingy girls who want you only, want this and that, want you to do this and that and at the end of the day they have a pussy thats remarkably like a P4P girls pussy.Whilst some men might say its all the "challenge" of bedding a non-P4P girl, you will not find these same men going out with a spear to find their dinner. They buy it.I find the hassle of bedding a non-P4P girl quite boring now, too much effort and at the end of the day it more often than not costs you more money for exactly the same thing, and thats a pussy to dump your load into.And. To be honest. Most Thai non P4P girls are lousy in bed if you are used to having P4P girls.So you will spend all that effort, all that time and end up with something not as good as you can "buy for 1500baht".But, it takes all sorts.[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Guys like me, though fairly knowledgeable and experienced (I am no cherry boy. I have been to BKK at least a dozen times since '89 and cumulatively have spent around 60 days here) can never or almost never get to the graduate level because we don't live in LOS and do not speak the language. The true test is if you are able to have a relationship with a non p4p Thai girl. We all see these beauties working in shopping malls (department stores), restaurants and hotels. Sometimes if they smile at me and make eye contact; I will engage them in pleasant conversation. If that goes well I ask them out for a casual drink, but so far I have not been successful in getting them into my bed. I have had some great sexual adventures in LOS and have no complaints, but the real prize would be getting it on with a regular girl. Anyway, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]...The true test is if you are able to have a relationship with a non p4p Thai girl. We all see these beauties working in shopping malls (department stores), restaurants and hotels.[/QUOTE]I've had several serious relationships with Thai women. They were not, however, beauties. On the other hand they were middle class educated women in professional jobs or business, not working in shopping malls, restaurants, or hotels. I think a relationship with those kinds of girls, particularly a beautiful one, will almost certainly cost you more than P4P.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]I've had several serious relationships with Thai women. They were not, however, beauties. On the other hand they were middle class educated women in professional jobs or business, not working in shopping malls, restaurants, or hotels. I think a relationship with those kinds of girls, particularly a beautiful one, will almost certainly cost you more than P4P.[/QUOTE]Two of my closest friends have had long term relationships with educated professional class Thai women so I kind of know what you are talking about. These girls treat their men well.[QUOTE=Satrai2000]The real prize is getting it on with a regular gal.Don't feel offended but I am always amused by those stories of dudes who talk as if they are great heroes because they bonked some massage-gal.[/QUOTE]Satrai, I'm not offended in the least. Bragging about getting laid in BKK is ridiculous. If you can't get laid here something is seriously wrong with you. Still it is a hell of a lot of fun.There are way too many men living under the tyranny of the Vagina back in the Western world. 50 to 60 years of propaganda and brainwashing political correctness has ruined large numbers of western women. They look great. They fuck great. Then they spoil it by berating their men and trying to control them. Too bad. Escaping to Thailand, PI, Macau, and Sao Paulo once or twice a year helps keep my head on straight. Visiting BKK makes me a better lover back home in the USA.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]The true test is if you are able to have a relationship with a non p4p Thai girl. We all see these beauties working in shopping malls (department stores), restaurants and hotels. Sometimes if they smile at me and make eye contact; I will engage them in pleasant conversation. If that goes well I ask them out for a casual drink, but so far I have not been successful in getting them into my bed. I have had some great sexual adventures in LOS and have no complaints, but the real prize would be getting it on with a regular girl. Anyway, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.[/QUOTE]Trust me, I have bedded more than a few of these "department stores, stores, sales" girls and they aren't necessarily better than the P4P ones. They do come with a lot of Drama attached to it. But I agree with you, I also much prefer non-P4P pussy :)
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]But I agree with you, I also much prefer non-P4P pussy :)[/QUOTE]It's the chase / challenge / effort whatever you want to call it. I also like to try to get a P4P to show up after work, before work, or on call / demand for no charge :D
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[QUOTE=Opebo] I think a relationship with those kinds of girls, particularly a beautiful one, will almost certainly cost you more than P4P.[/QUOTE]I agree. Unless GF has a very well paid job, she will often work out to be more expensive, per sex session, than P4P.So what's the point in a GF unless she provides for herself and family and doesn't require expensive presents?Unfortunately, most GFs I have had that were completely self-sufficient, were not so great in the bedroom department, or if they were great in bed, then they were of average looks.Guys who find a very inexpensive GF who is great on the bed and beautiful and sexy, are lucky!Clearly the competition to get these girls is very tough.
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[QUOTE=M P Lurker]I agree. Unless GF has a very well paid job, she will often work out to be more expensive, per sex session, than P4P.So what's the point in a GF unless she provides for herself and family and doesn't require expensive presents?Unfortunately, most GFs I have had that were completely self-sufficient, were not so great in the bedroom department, or if they were great in bed, then they were of average looks.Guys who find a very inexpensive GF who is great on the bed and beautiful and sexy, are lucky!Clearly the competition to get these girls is very tough.[/QUOTE]There are millions of beautiful girls in Thailand. Ones that are not in the P4P trade. Just normal working girls, earning 12-15 k per month. They won't cost you 2000 baht a day for a two hour session and have been fucked by the whole world and its dog!If they are not great in the bedroom, then teach them! How do you think working girls learn?I have just left my wife and started a new life with a real stunning lady from the North. She is a Human Resource Manager, she has all the qualities one would love in a woman, as well as skills that suit my sexual needs.I don't feel I am unique in finding a normal Thai woman. I have friends that have found the ideal match. But then maybe it depends where you are looking for them?Take a look at Thailand, you might be surprised!
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[QUOTE=M P Lurker]..Guys who find a very inexpensive GF who is great on the bed and beautiful and sexy, are lucky!...[/QUOTE]Finding one of this kind is not an impossible mission, but usually, you will have to marry her (which might become expensive in the long term anyway)... and you won't be allowed to (openly) be a "butterfly" anymore (or it might cost you your "dearer asset")! :D