Panama City

Hi all.

Is the Le Meridien Hotel chica friendly?

guys. i have been a lurker here for quite a while and i usually don't post much because i don't really have much to offer (sorry!). i have been to costa rica maybe 50 times and have a small house there, so i'm familiar at least with the way things are done there.

that being said, i've ready a ton of information on panama and i'm still lost as far as how to get a game plan together. can someone help me?

i am younger, and my idea of a 8, 9.10 is along the lines of the chicks in transformer movies or on the cover of playboy. thinner model types. i know that's relatively unrealistic, but can someone let me know if they only had 7 days in panama: 1) what is a good city, city-area and name of place to stay if you want to go to dance clubs but not get raped on price. 2) what are the places where the better looking working-girls go? and finally 3) is there a 24-hour bar place (like the del ray in costa rica or the strip clubs in colombia) where you can just head to at 3am if the night clubs don't produce free girls?

again, i've read all the posts here and i'm still feeling like i don't have a solid grasp on how things work here.

Mike, Colombia fits the bill better for what you describe than Panama. Medellin has hot, more professional (like hooker professional) women and is cheap. Cartagena has more of the 24 hour freelancer scene you're looking for and is more expensive. Most of the really hot, model looking professionals in Panama come from Colombia BTW.

If it's going to be Panama though, Calle Uruguay has a lot of clubs. You'd probably be staying in Cangrejo. Las Vegas Suites, Torres de Alba and Hotel Ejecutivo are in the general area and are among the cheaper, nice options. I've gotten a good deal at Plaza Paitilla, which is in the Punta Paitilla area, not Cangrejo, and if the traffic is bad it can be a little slow to get from there to the areas with the clubs and the hookers. Better looking freelancers go to Veneto Casino, Habano, and from some reports here to Club Ache. For the best looking professionals, who won't be freelancers, try Golden Time MP, which is an affordable option, and the strip clubs Le Palace and Elite, which are not affordable unless you line up something for the next day. Late night around 3 AM the selection isn't all that great. Maybe try the Veneto for freelancers or Golden Time for a MP.

There is nothing comparable to the Del Rey. The Veneto Casino maybe comes closest, but it's a poor substitute.

Veneto to Habanos is less than 2 blocks. If you are taking a taxi for $2-$5 for less than 2 blocks, I don't know what to say. I am disappointed to say the least.

I think nothing of tipping $1. Or even $2 if it's raining or if the taxi driver has sex with me without a condom. I know I'm running the price up and spoiling it for everyone else, but I don't care.

[QUOTE=Bobbybjack;1281224]Veneto to Habanos is less than 2 blocks. If you are taking a taxi for $2-$5 for less than 2 blocks, I don't know what to say. I am disappointed to say the least.[/QUOTE]I think your being sarcastic and I like your style but if not- for $3. 00 I am happy to pay a cab for a 5 minute ride, save the sweat, get some ac. Avoid getting hit by a car (as a pedestrian walking in the street) and with the way people in Panama drive getting hit and honked at is a very real possibility and not spill the beer I am carrying while walking.

It shocks me how cheap some people are on this forum. Not just the difference between walking and a cab because that is not a big deal and maybe some people like to walk but I mean to go all the way to a specifice country and just be a freakin cheap skate is pathetic. Don't over pay of course not. Don't accept $200 when $100 will do but is it worth haggling over $5 or $10 when the price gets to $100. Is $90 or $95 going to make you feel that much better. I can't tell you how many hot chicks have walked away over $10 or $20 and I thought I was making a stand. Turns out later that night and the next day I am kicking myself for being stubborn. Go to the market and haggle over trinkets thats normal, or make a deal with a girl and be assertive with what you want cool, but to nickle and dime and feel good that you saved $5 is non sense. A lot of Mongers say don't over pay it spoils the girls. TRUE but so does haggling over pennies. It makes them in the future start higher than normal and it hardens them up. Your on vacation have fun, you can pinch pennies at home. By the way, No disrespect to anyone on this board. Just my Opinion.

[quote=mikekelimir; 1279719]guys. i have been a lurker here for quite a while and i usually don't post much because i don't really have much to offer (sorry!). i have been to costa rica maybe 50 times and have a small house there, so i'm familiar at least with the way things are done there.

that being said, i've ready a ton of information on panama and i'm still lost as far as how to get a game plan together. can someone help me?

i am younger, and my idea of a 8, 9.10 is along the lines of the chicks in transformer movies or on the cover of playboy. thinner model types. i know that's relatively unrealistic, but can someone let me know if they only had 7 days in panama: 1) what is a good city, city-area and name of place to stay if you want to go to dance clubs but not get raped on price. 2) what are the places where the better looking working-girls go? and finally 3) is there a 24-hour bar place (like the del ray in costa rica or the strip clubs in colombia) where you can just head to at 3am if the night clubs don't produce free girls?

again, i've read all the posts here and i'm still feeling like i don't have a solid grasp on how things work here.[/quote]1. le palace. pack a very fat wallet. don't take out, set for afterwork.

2. venetto, habanos, ashe and la bodeguita.

3. no 24 hours, we are screwed with the carrot law, however, you can stock on some booze before hand, leave in your room, and you can come back when the law kicks in

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1281782]1. Le Palace. Pack a VERY FAT wallet. Don't take out, set for afterwork.

2. Venetto, Habanos, Ashe and La Bodeguita.

3. NO 24 hours, we are screwed with the Carrot Law, however, you can stock on some booze before hand, leave in your room, and you can come back when the law kicks in[/QUOTE]
Sorry for the double post. As for #1 on dance clubs, stay near calle uruguay area, that means, The Exexcutive, Venetto and its surroundings, Marriot. Best clubs / bars are in this area. If you feel that you are been ripped on the final tab, you can always check with the manager to verify the amount that is been billed. I.E beers would go around 3-4$ depending on club, drink might go between 5-9$ depending on club and liquor, bottles might range between $55 and up, depending on liquor

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1281954]Sorry for the double post. As for #1 on dance clubs, stay near calle uruguay area, that means, The Exexcutive, Venetto and its surroundings, Marriot. Best clubs / bars are in this area. If you feel that you are been ripped on the final tab, you can always check with the manager to verify the amount that is been billed. I.E beers would go around 3-4$ depending on club, drink might go between 5-9$ depending on club and liquor, bottles might range between $55 and up, depending on liquor[/QUOTE]To avoid problems with the final bill, it is best not to keep a running tab but to pay for drinks as you get them.

Remember: Drunken tourists with limited Spanish = padded checks!

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1281782]1. Le Palace. Pack a VERY FAT wallet. Don't take out, set for afterwork.

2. Venetto, Habanos, Ashe and La Bodeguita.

3. NO 24 hours, we are screwed with the Carrot Law, however, you can stock on some booze before hand, leave in your room, and you can come back when the law kicks in[/QUOTE]Hi when I was there a few weeks ago La Bodeguita was closed due to a shooting. Not sure if its still open. Anybody with any new updates of Veneto / Panama city. Was horrible when I went. Thanks

[QUOTE=Bobbybjack;1281224]Veneto to Habanos is less than 2 blocks. If you are taking a taxi for $2-$5 for less than 2 blocks, I don't know what to say. I am disappointed to say the least.[/QUOTE]Maybe when you're drunk it's two blocks, LOL. More in the four block range and having to cross the main thoroughfare on foot is taking your life in your own hands. Walk down a block from the Veneto and and pay no more that $2, you'll find a cab. I would tip a dollar anyway, but that's just me.

[quote=mikekelimir; 1279719]i've read a ton of information on panama and i'm still lost as far as how to get a game plan together. can someone help me?

i am younger, and my idea of a 8, 9.10 is along the lines of the chicks in transformer movies or on the. can someone let me know if they only had 7 days in panama: 1) what is a good city, city-area and name of place to stay if you want to go to dance clubs but not get raped on price. 2) what are the places where the better looking working-girls go? and finally 3) is there a 24-hour bar place (like the del ray in costa rica or the strip clubs in colombia) where you can just head to at 3am if the night clubs don't produce free girls?

again, i've read all the posts here and i'm still feeling like i don't have a solid grasp on how things work here.[/quote]you can have a very jazzy week in panama. if i were doing it, i would.

- arrive in the middle of the week and leave in the middle of the next week. that way you can session up front, rest & recover on sunday, and finish strong.

- drop the unrealistic expectations of playboy models and transformer movies. like sir-mix-alot said,"don't talk to me about playboy, because silicon parts are made for toys!" and you will not be able to bring your airbrush with you. there is no "photoshop" feature for ticas.

- get the best rate you can for the veneto hotel. it is like the del rey, but better. in that it is ground zero, chica friendly, the lunch specials in the casino cannot be beat, and the 7's. 8's, and 9's will hang out there in search of the guy that will pay them $150 for short time.

- that said, be adventurous. take a cab less than a mile away to the love hotel across from the hospital and the mall. los arcos. it has everything you need. clean room, comfortable bed, hot water, air con, three porn channels on the cable tv, sound proofing, mood lighting, mood music. for less than $40 a night, but it does not take reservations. you go, and if they have a vacant room, you got a room. otherwise, wait until one empties out. the most i have had to wait is 40 minutes. no chica fee. it is a love hotel. but absolutely no three ways, just couples! it is after all, a "family" joint, one where respectable middle class businessmen and salarymen bring their mistresses, or a married couple can escape an apartment full of inlaws and kids for a romantic afternoon or "date night", or young people can escape their families / college dorm / prying eyes (because they don't own cars). i have stayed there, but walked to the veneto neighborhoood to hang out. save money without crimping your style.

- avoid the taxis in front of the veneto or other 4-star hotel. expensive, and unless you are one of the nerds on "big bang theory", you don't need a mongering tour guide. but do avail yourself of an experienced wingman if you meet one. no taxi ride within town should cost more than $3 during the day, but i have paid $4-5 at night for that 7 mile trek from golden time / the fantastic casino / chinatown to veneto after 10pm.

- do check out habanos at night. if you are looking for "dimes" they will be there. usually they are colombian and have worked their way from the minor leagues to majors to the international circuit. they will ask for "cien" or more if you look like an atm.

- do check out the casino at veneto often, at different times of the night. it could be barren at 9:15pm, but full of great possibilities at 10:30pm.

- do take advantage of the diversity of restaurants: two excellent arab ones (one across the street from habanos) , a good cuban restaurant (and the other middle east restaurant) a block or two away from the river club and relax oriental mp's (both are dumps, but they are usually the gate way for new girls and i have found diamonds in the rough there several times) , and some excellent japanese and sushi places. the food court by the entry to the veneto has a little of everything, from inexpensive local lunches to subway!

- go to golden time. whether it will have a platoon of colombian 9's and 10's on duty from 7pm to 6am has much to do with hemispheric economic conditions, it is the best run mp in the time zone, and i have gone upstairs 90% of the time i have gone, and been very, very pleased 85% of the time i have gone upstairs. a couple of gt girls have become favoritas that i have continued to see outside of gt, even outside of panama. when you go, please have the cabby take you to the casino fantastic in el dorado / chinatown, go inside, wait for him to go away with another fare, and then walk up the hill and across the street to golden time. this will save you $10-30 dollars of "gringo tax" on you $84 dollar session at gt. go from the casino, to the taco bell / kfc, to the mcdonalds, cross the street to the church's fried chicken, and into the strip mall to gt. a blind man could do it with a dog, a cane, and a sense of smell for fast food.

- somebody please go to goldfingers about five blocks away and give a review. two blocks from the fant casino is miami club, a strip club with cabins in the back.

- both gt and mc are owned by expat chinese. if you can pass for chinese to a panamanian who can't tell the difference between a korean / japanese / singaporean you will get a huge asian discount, half off. just look asian, speak accented but halting spanish, and dress like a local.

- try the oasis mp on the same street as the veneto. go to their web site and print out their coupons. try their lunch special ($50 for an hour befor 2pm). i have found diamonds in the rough, a hot milf, a hot divorcee down on her luck, and college students there.

- there is no such thing as a bad internet cafe in panama. panama has great communications link ups. they have to, the world banks there and half the world's ships are registered there. cheap phone calls and great internet connections for pocket change. on some trips, i did not bring my lap top. i didn't have to pay $10 a night for internet connection when the cafes were open 20 hours a day.

- do buy a cheap local cell phone at the chinese owned shops for less than $15, buy some time, and ask for 4-for-1 days (or better) for buying recharge cards. there a different promotions on different days, so when you get a 3/4/5-for-one day, re-up. you can use your phone to call overseas for little money.

- walk a few blocks away from ground zero to find your neighborhood pharmacy (not a tourist oriented one) to buy your pills. rx's are not needed for most stuff. just 150 meters from the restuarant across the street from the food court near the veneto down a long, unbroken street is a neighborhood laundromat. they charge you by the pound to drop of your laundry, wash, dry, and fold. overnight service, same day if you come early and pick up late. 3-4 lbs for less than $5. 00. bring your soap / dryer sheet and cut that price in half. there are little neighborhood convenience stores (usually chinese owned) where you can buy your fruits, pinapple juice, baked goods, and other sundries and snacks. but a couple of blocks away on the big main street is a huge supermarket that is good too, with a deli! and near there is where i can find not one, but two shoe-shine guys who will give you a spit shine for just $2!

- when you arrive at the airport and have cleared customs / immigration, go upstairs, find a cab that is dropping people off, wait for the cop to be distracted and offer the cabbie $20-25 to take you to the hotel, but insist he take the toll road (unless it is not morning or afternoon rush hour). if he is cool, honest, and has a nice cab, make him "your cabbie" and call him when you need a cab, especially at night.

- touristy things: take a favorita to have lunch by the canal locks and walk through the museum. you can eat and look out the window while a huge ship is going up and down the "water elevator." shop at the mall at the former allbrook air force base. walk around the national university near the veneto during the day (when they are not having a poltiical rally) and try your hand at picking up co-eds.

- if you are going to panama, then you can also do a side trip to medellin. there are direct flights, and if i did have a week, i would spend half a week in panama and half a week in medellin. if i were going for the first time, i would fly into medellin on a sunday and check into one of the casablanca bed / breakfasts (the former medellin mansion) so i wouldn't feel like a paratrooper behind enemy lines. good digs, good breakfast, the company of other guests, conveniently located, tours of the day time casas, quiet at night so you can sleep, there are the "mansion girls" you can have come over, there are day time tours of the "casas" or mps, and at night you can meet the medellin 8's. 9's, and "dimes" while they are still young and "farm fresh" in their natural habitats: parque lleras, discos, night time casas, etc.

I have some points to burn for hotels for a trip coming up in about a week, can someone please confirm if the Miramar Intercontinental is still girl friendly. It sounded ok from some reviews from a few years ago, but could not tell more recently. Thanks for you help.

[QUOTE=Walker076;1282121]I have some points to burn for hotels for a trip coming up in about a week, can someone please confirm if the Miramar Intercontinental is still girl friendly. It sounded ok from some reviews from a few years ago, but could not tell more recently. Thanks for you help.[/QUOTE]I stayed there over a year ago and brought two different girls in late at nite. Wasn't a problem then. I would just ensure she is dressed appropriately. Just be discreet and it shouldn't be an issue.

Was at Golden Fingers last May, basically it's a rip off of Golden Time with a fraction of the chicks and a much smaller venue for the same price. I had a 19 year old who was stunning but definitely not very fun, might be worth looking at since everything is all in the same area.