2006 Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Nic Frenchy,

I have met bargirls whose character was far too good for what I deserve (but rarely).[/QUOTE]Hahaha. I caught myself thinking that many times LOL

Thanks Mick. Your views are always deeply appreciated.

You are right, she is one girl I find is very nice and a little different than the others. Maybe looking for a nice boyfriend (but that's not what I have in mind).

We'll see how it goes. Giving her my Phone number already got use, she sent me 8 SMS. Let's see where that goes; )

Hey again Rob,

If you take the Sky Train, you might want to go 2 stops from Nana & get off at Prom Phong (20bht) and walk back a little. According to this map, it seems closer than getting off at Asoke.

Take a look: [url]http://www.bangkokeyes.com/areamapwash.jpg[/url]

TKP1

[QUOTE=Nufc9]Hey Guys,

I arrive in Bangkok in 2 weeks and will post reports for all.

Can someone please recommend a good place close to soi 4 for a real traditional thai massage.

There so cheap I would like to have one every day but is there a place renowned for being the best or great within 5 mins walk from soi 4?

Thanks in advance,

Rob[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wendella]What type of place is this? Standard disco/nightclub? And what kind of girls are these? I mean aside from DDG -- are they clearly working or is this a spot that would be very difficult for somebody not Thai-fluent to navigate?

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It's a club set-up, but I think it's pretty clear all the girls are there to work. You pay for the lady's drink, there's food. Like a KTV set up. There's a stage area with a live band. Couches in front of the stage. Bar in the front section just behind the couch area. A pool in the middle room and a bar in the back section. I hear it was a Coyote bar type set up in the back, but not when I visited.

The mama will introduce you to a girl or you can walk around and see if you can catch someone's eye. Come to think of it, the crowd seemed entirely Asian. I could be wrong on that one, but I don't recall seeing any Westerners. I believe the girls are all freelancers, but I'm not 100% sure. They are pricey .. 4,000 baht and up.

I hear there are private rooms upstairs.

AT2

Damn... that sounds just right. I've never heard of this place. Sounds like a must see for sure. (Must try, I should say) Is this Hollywood Club the same setup?

Where are these places? Been around long?

Sorry for all the questions. Just when you think you know everything you need to know, along comes something.

[QUOTE=Wendella]Damn... that sounds just right. I've never heard of this place. Sounds like a must see for sure. (Must try, I should say) Is this Hollywood Club the same setup?

Where are these places? Been around long?

Sorry for all the questions. Just when you think you know everything you need to know, along comes something.[/QUOTE]The Pent is on Wireless road, Hollywood on Rachada soi 11.

When I went to the Pent roughly a year ago, the deal was either buy a bottle ( Baht 3500 + mixers) or buy a membership ( 20,000 Baht for which you get 10 bottles and free mixers). Mamasan will approach you and introduce 4-6 girls, should you not like any of them she will bring some more until you find what you are looking for.

Quality of the girls is very good, but expect to pay a high price. I paid 4000 Baht LT, opening bid from the girl was 8000.

Hollywood is an entirely different setup, more like a regular club and has been around for at least 10 years (maybe more). Loads of girls, but not all professionals although the majority are. Went there 3 times and scored 1x for free, 1x 2500 LT (turned out to be a Massage Parlour girl) and 1x no luck.

Both places are worth a visit.

[QUOTE=TKP1]Hey Mich,

Try BarBar in Patpong: [url]http://www.barbar-bangkok.com/home.html[/url]
I've never been there but it looks interesting. If you go, please give a report.

TKP1[/QUOTE]

I was once in BarBar, November last year. This year April it was closed for renovation. There is another bar of that kind somewhere in Sukomvith (soi 50+) called castle or so. There is also a castle bar in Pattaya.

[url]http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader/reader1711.htm[/url]

Well, BarBar in Patpong II has the same setup and prices like castle bar in Pattaya. In the castle bar in Bangkok I was never.
You have to pay a entrance fee from 900 Bath, which includes a drink if I am not wrong. Inside are some girls. Mostly not too good looking. Since I was the only guest I was surrounded by many girls as soon I had a sit a the bar. The girls starts a show for me. Spanking each other or play with hot wax.
Well, one asked me to spank a slave girl. First I hesitate since I thought they will expect than that I pay them a drink, but I saw a quite pretty girl and I asked if I can spank her instead. She agreed and I start to spank her, even hard.
Well, she pretend that she liked it. She asked me if I like to go with her upstairs. If I am not wrong she wanted 3000 Bath and the Bar wants also 1000 Barfine. I said that is much too expensive. She told me that she could give me a BJ while I spank her for 1000 Bath. I agreed, so we went to a side room. It was a open room and anybody in the bar could see what we do.
Well she gave me a BBBJ and I spanked her. She was not bad and very devoting and submissive. Just I couldn't come. (I never come just from a BJ). I tried to convince her to meet me after her work, but she didn't came. So, I went again to BarBar next day, because I wanted to sleep with her.
At the entrance I said I don't want pay the 900 Bath entrance fee, also don't want pay the 1000 bath Barfine. I told them I just want pay the 3000 Bath for the girl and have a ST with her upstairs. They agreed and so I went with the girl (don't know her name, just that she was from Bangkok and 19 years old) upstairs. I spanked her a while, than I fucked her ass. She said it was her first, time. Might be true. Well, I didn't enjoyed much, it was a fantasy which I could live out, but I realized that it's better in the fantasy than in real life. She also did not liked it since it was painful for her.
Nevertheless she asked me to come back the next day. But, I did not had the wish to try it anymore.
I am glad that I tried it, but now I know that SM is not that what I like.

I have good experience in Bangkok area Soi Nana, almost always nice women and good prices too. But in this last trip I found a nice female (at least I thought this!!!) and was a Katoy !!!!

I really don’t know how this can happen with my experience and the previous chat with him!!! Only in the room I saw the bad surprise.

Therefore my request or advice to the experts here how can I recognize this? All the signals were from a cute woman and I wonder if with the ID can I realize this in advance and avoid this situation in the future. How is recorded in the IDs? Maybe in Thai language could help us

Thanks in advance for your recommendations

LOL, hey man thats funny.

Had a friend almost do the same thing, I even had one try to snug up on me. LOL HOWEVER I happen to see the adams apple, and then asked "you katoy?" It's reply "yes but I nit-noy". I didn't make a seen, just said no thanks and that was that. My friends story included some thing about Berry White. Funny LOL may be I'll post it later.

If it has Fake-Ns think twice, If its taller then 5' and has Fake-Ns, think twice and ask. If you keep finding that you have to ask, you may need to re-Eval your idea of what a asian women should look like.

Funny, but a good topic for the New-Bees

By the way what were your travel buddies doing, they should have been backing you up??? LOL

[QUOTE=Sponsor74]I have good experience in Bangkok area Soi Nana, almost always nice women and good prices too. But in this last trip I found a nice female (at least I thought this!!!) and was a Katoy !!!!

I really don’t know how this can happen with my experience and the previous chat with him!!! Only in the room I saw the bad surprise.

Therefore my request or advice to the experts here how can I recognize this? All the signals were from a cute woman and I wonder if with the ID can I realize this in advance and avoid this situation in the future. How is recorded in the IDs? Maybe in Thai language could help us

Thanks in advance for your recommendations[/QUOTE]

So you have done all of your research. You have read all the previous postings. You have visions of women rushing to satisfy your every fantasy. Let's face it you will get your fantasy fulfilled in Thailand. It is as sure as the sun rising tomorrow. I do not care how old and fat you are the women will want to whisk you away to fulfill your every fantasy (of course at a price). So why bother with Bangkok. I present this thesis. With the new airport you are only about 2 1/2 hours away from Pattaya. Cost about 1200B-1600B taxicab ride away. The Nana area takes 45 minutes and costs 250B. Once you arrive you basically have the hordes of women around the Nana area all screaming to catch your attention or you can hassle with the taxicab drivers and go to Soi Cowboy. That is basically your 2 choices. Now if you are short on time Bangkok is not bad. If you have 3 or more days why not go for the full package. In Bangkok the hotel rooms will cost you more, the bar fines are higher, the girls will ask for more, the service at hotels is lousy, the food choices poor, there are hordes of people, etc. You are basically captive in a very confined area. If you usually shop at the 7/11 for Christmas then go to Bangkok. If you prefer to shop at Walmart where the choices are endless and the pricing is great go to Pattaya. Do not get me wrong. The Nana area has its good points. There is nothing like a visit to Annie's, Eden Club or Lolitta's for their unique specials. But what do you do the rest of the time?

How to spot a katoey: Avoid any of the following:

1) Adams Apple, but nowadays, there is surgery to shave this down, so it's absence is not a sure thing

2) Be wary of voices that sound unusually raspy/breathy

3) Beware of large hands

4) Be especially wary of any "lady" over 5'2" tall, although this is of course not a sure thing - Especially if the tall one has fake boobies.

5) I find that the MOST reliable indicator is the musculature of the upper thighs - it's simply different in women and men. Ladies tend to have at least a slight bit of cellulite - men don't. Katoeys don't - their upper thighs look like male upper thighs, except shaved.

For me, the fact that I like slim, petite spinners with small natural boobies is most helpful in ensuring that I avoid getting my meat with too much bone.

At times katoys come for interviews. When it's for management positions I sometimes conduct interviews myself.

Yes, katoys are somewhat quite integrated in Thai society. I would not mind hiring, after all what counts are results. I found that Gays and Katois are very competitive and get the job done (work related I mean:-).

Point is that some of them are just close to 100% perfect in looks. At times I could not see (or hear) the difference.

Only thing which gave it away was the ID card. Seems though that the Thai staff spots them a mile away.

JB


[QUOTE=Member #2041]How to spot a katoey: Avoid any of the following:

1) Adams Apple, but nowadays, there is surgery to shave this down, so it's absence is not a sure thing

2) Be wary of voices that sound unusually raspy/breathy

3) Beware of large hands

4) Be especially wary of any "lady" over 5'2" tall, although this is of course not a sure thing - Especially if the tall one has fake boobies.

5) I find that the MOST reliable indicator is the musculature of the upper thighs - it's simply different in women and men. Ladies tend to have at least a slight bit of cellulite - men don't. Katoeys don't - their upper thighs look like male upper thighs, except shaved.

For me, the fact that I like slim, petite spinners with small natural boobies is most helpful in ensuring that I avoid getting my meat with too much bone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RetiredForever]So you have done all of your research. You have read all the previous postings. You have visions of women rushing to satisfy your every fantasy. Let's face it you will get your fantasy fulfilled in Thailand. It is as sure as the sun rising tomorrow. I do not care how old and fat you are the women will want to whisk you away to fulfill your every fantasy (of course at a price). So why bother with Bangkok. I present this thesis. With the new airport you are only about 2 1/2 hours away from Pattaya. Cost about 1200B-1600B taxicab ride away. The Nana area takes 45 minutes and costs 250B. Once you arrive you basically have the hordes of women around the Nana area all screaming to catch your attention or you can hassle with the taxicab drivers and go to Soi Cowboy. That is basically your 2 choices. Now if you are short on time Bangkok is not bad. If you have 3 or more days why not go for the full package. In Bangkok the hotel rooms will cost you more, the bar fines are higher, the girls will ask for more, the service at hotels is lousy, the food choices poor, there are hordes of people, etc. You are basically captive in a very confined area. If you usually shop at the 7/11 for Christmas then go to Bangkok. If you prefer to shop at Walmart where the choices are endless and the pricing is great go to Pattaya. Do not get me wrong. The Nana area has its good points. There is nothing like a visit to Annie's, Eden Club or Lolitta's for their unique specials. But what do you do the rest of the time?[/QUOTE]Retiredforever,

When it comes to Bangkok versus Pattaya, we all have a preference.

I had my first trip to LOS in 1994, I'm now a veteran of 20+ trips, most trips are for around 3 weeks, I visited Pattaya in 1994 and out of the next 20 or so trips to LOS I've only been back to Pattaya on 3 occasions, I just hate the place, yet I've heard numerous others rave about it.

What is it I dislike so much about Pattaya? I think the overall standard of girls is lower in Pattaya, also on the few occasions I've been there I've thought that the standard of the average punter left a lot to be desired, don't get me wrong, I've seen the loud/overweight/over 40//balding yobos in Bangkok as well, just don't seem as prevelant in Bangkok.

The other thing is on my first 5 or 6 trips to Bkok I was very fortunate to be shown around by a friend of mine that was domiciled in Bkok, he was a private investigator, and new the city like the back of his hand.

In your post you mentioned nana and cowboy as basically your 2 choices, hell on most trips to bkok I stay in either suk 11 or 19 and I don't even venture into nana, I may poke my nose into cowboy once or twice during a 3 week stay, there are so many other places in bkok that leave nana and cowboy for dead.

I guess I'll always be a fan of bkok.

Good punting.

[QUOTE=Member #2041]How to spot a katoey: Avoid any of the following:

1) Adams Apple, but nowadays, there is surgery to shave this down, so it's absence is not a sure thing

2) Be wary of voices that sound unusually raspy/breathy

3) Beware of large hands

4) Be especially wary of any "lady" over 5'2" tall, although this is of course not a sure thing - Especially if the tall one has fake boobies.

5) I find that the MOST reliable indicator is the musculature of the upper thighs - it's simply different in women and men. Ladies tend to have at least a slight bit of cellulite - men don't. Katoeys don't - their upper thighs look like male upper thighs, except shaved.

For me, the fact that I like slim, petite spinners with small natural boobies is most helpful in ensuring that I avoid getting my meat with too much bone.[/QUOTE]

I still wonder how is the ID of this people? even in Thai language any advice?

[QUOTE=Sponsor74]I still wonder how is the ID of this people? even in Thai language any advice?[/QUOTE]

I was once told to check ID before the name there is MR or MRS

2 thai symbols for MR. or 3-4 for MRS.

Could any of our local expats verify this!

[QUOTE=Rikusa]I was once told to check ID before the name there is MR or MRS

2 thai symbols for MR. or 3-4 for MRS.

Could any of our local expats verify this![/QUOTE]

They can have fake ID's made on Kao San Road. The way they walk and their lack of modesty are dead give aways. LBz are flashy with their privates and when heading up the skytrain stairs they cannot fake the walk as women have different pelvises for having children. Asian girls generally have modesty hard coded into they haidz, while the LB'z are proud of their recent surgically acquired devices and will flash you. You will find that many expats stay in Thailand for the LBz. Dudes get work papers and get jobs over there just to frolic with the catooees. You can see big, bad ass ex military, musclemen wimpering as their cattoee scolds them. A Thai private eye told me of an American that has farhang bicycle "tours" with ladyboys in tow and they even ran ads in a newspaper up here in NYC. Often the catooee mongers will slander other mongers to create a smoke screen. It is sad how the extremely poor people in S.America and Asia will feed birth control pills to their wee lads that are born with pretty faces to help them develop feminine characteristics so they can sell their bodies to support their families. In India there is a whole caste born like that. Hijras (aka Hijaras) have no choice and used to be castrated but now are forced to be gender bent into LBz.