Reporting from rl centro area. Botero packed with people and I presume hookers. Checked out club "Conercitas", lots of girls, few to my liking. Prepago girls starting to refrain from gringos (abd catch the virus).
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Reporting from rl centro area. Botero packed with people and I presume hookers. Checked out club "Conercitas", lots of girls, few to my liking. Prepago girls starting to refrain from gringos (abd catch the virus).
Every so often this reminder is necessary. Colombian mongers far outnumber their gringo counterparts, this by a huge margin. The exceptions are small and few (e. G. The Mansion, Gustos, and certain escort sites that actually communicate in English and quote prices in dollars).
It's the same thing with the upscale restaurants. You see very few barrio places shut down but Provenza is a ghost town now. Let's keep our fingers crossed the tide will turn the way it did in China. If that were to happen within a month or two we can avoid wide scale layoffs in Europe and the Americas.
[QUOTE=Combo;2434945]Plenty of Colombian guys will be glad to give them business, but they generally don't pay stupid gringo prices. The girls will survive.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2434660]Given a choice, I'd rather sit this out in Colombia, but that's not an option now. Depending on what further restrictions are placed, I'll either be in the US or Canada. I'll almost certainly be working until everything returns to normal.[/QUOTE]I have gone from a daily routine of walking around El Centro and taking Chicas up to the room for sessions, to now looking for paper products and food in a matter of a few days.
It's all surreal, I can't believe what's going on, and Colombia I believe will be going into shock in the next few weeks when they realize the gravity of things.
Last Friday night I had dinner with a friend in Provenza, and after dinner around 9 PM we decided to spend some time in Parque Lleras. Lots of Chicas on the prowl looking for clients, nicely dressed, not any stunners though, along with all kinds of people hanging out in the eating establishments / bars around the park and as happy as can be.
On Saturday I went to El Centro and hung out in the afternoon, and there was all kind of talent available for sessions with so many new Venezuelan's available along with the Colombians, it was rocking as usual.
On Sunday the 15th I had a flight from Medellin back to LA thru Bogota. I arrive in Bogota, and board the flight for LA, upon boarding I get a Whatsapp Message from a buddy. Colombia is now shutting down the Country to all foreigners, with only citizens and residents allowed in effective Monday the 16th. I may have gotten on one of the last few flights out of the Country back to the USA. So here I am on a seven hour flight from Bogota to LAX wearing an N95 mask which I didn't take off during the entire flight, meaning no food or liquids, pondering what the hell I was coming back to in the USA.
So on Monday morning I decide to start getting supplies for my home. I live within walking distance of five major stores in Southern California which include a Pavillions, a CVS Pharmacy, a Whole Foods, a Gelsons, and a Trader Joes. None of these stores had either paper towels, toilet paper, pasta's, rice, or dried vegetables, and hardly any fresh fruits or vegetables. And no fresh meats except the Gelsons which is a very high priced market but with a very limited supply. Most all frozen food products were out of stock and there were long lines at all the stores. And while walking around, people stayed clear of one another and just kind of smiled while holding their breath when passing one another.
In walking to each of the stores, I also noticed a lot of the eating places were closed along with all the schools and bars as well.
Then in the afternoon I heard that most other Central and South American Countries are shuttering their borders along with the Airlines such as LATAM shutting down 90% of their flights.
All of this within a matter of a few days. I cannot believe what is happening. It's surreal, like night and day.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2434779]Right, if you aren't here you don't have to think about it. For those who are here, a practical measure is to avoid the metro because that seems like a place you could pick it up. Maybe traffic will calm down because of this. I don't know, I have serious doubts about that.[/QUOTE]For those still in Medellin, avoiding the METRO as advised is a must. What is scary about the Metro is that if there is one infected person who coughs and sneeze's that person could potentially infect others being in a confined space and those who become infected infecting others who infect others like a "snowball".
One of the reasons I left Colombia is out of fear of what could occur if there are large breakouts of the virus in Medellin. With everything being shutdown there could be civil unrest, and coming down with the virus, needing medical attention is another issue.
[QUOTE=Combo;2434945]Plenty of Colombian guys will be glad to give them business, but they generally don't pay stupid gringo prices. The girls will survive.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if the girls will survive as you think. I suspect a lot of the Colombian guys will stop mongering being afraid to catch the virus, along with some of the Colombian girls also not electing to work.
I also think there will be plenty of very desperate Venezuelans working, and competing for clients. It will be a buyer's market for sure.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2435002]For those still in Medellin, avoiding the METRO as advised is a must. [/QUOTE]My average cab ride is $2.50 usd. I rarely, if ever, use the Metro LOL.
I've been doing a bit of research and the travel ban announced by Duque this evening is for all land, maritime and river crossings both in and out of Colombia, until the end of May. It does not concern air travel, which was not mentioned. So, in principal, you can still leave Colombia via Bogota airport, according to the report.
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So on Monday morning I decide to start getting supplies for my home. I live within walking distance of five major stores in Southern California which include a Pavillions, a CVS Pharmacy, a Whole Foods, a Gelsons, and a Trader Joes. None of these stores had either paper towels, toilet paper, pasta's, rice, or dried vegetables, and hardly any fresh fruits or vegetables. And no fresh meats except the Gelsons which is a very high priced market but with a very limited supply. Most all frozen food products were out of stock and there were long lines at all the stores. And while walking around, people stayed clear of one another and just kind of smiled while holding their breath when passing one another.
. It's surreal, like night and day.[/QUOTE]Most grocery stores in my area keep restocking stuff, I have found that it is a matter of being in the right place at the right time. I go out everyday and hit different stores, some days I find some fresh meats, some days I find bread, its a little crazy but yea, you have to keep trying, I think at some point all the shithead hoarders are going to run out of space to put things and the grocer shelves will go back to normal.
Seems like I'm better off here in Bucaramanga! The supermarkets are busier than usual, but there's no shortage of anything! Is it really so different there? What about restaurants / fast food joints etc, are they operating normally?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2434937]However, seems like every "get it all in writing" monger has problems. They spend as much time arguing over the deal as they spend fucking. The girls all want to leave as soon as possible, or want to add extra charges.
Then again, I treat every chica like a human being instead of just something to fuck. They seem to appreciate that approach.[/QUOTE]You have problems also, doesn't matter how nice you are, or how good you are at screening. Bad service happens occasionally to all who deal with a number of hookers. That's for all of us that like strange. One can find a few good ones and stick only with them, but for those out seeking the new, some bad ones are going to slip through the cracks. It's the nature of the beast, and doesn't matter how skilled, in the know, humane, compassionate in response sick perrito stories, or over and above the typical monger one wants to make themselves sound on the internet. If you invite a lot over and negotiate only price, more than a few will insist on a CBJ, and / or are ready to go after one pop. You and others can claim this never happens but no one should believe you. Or perhaps you are content with all that, but some of us here aren't so we go for a bit more negotiation. And in contrast to all the posturing and hyperbole, plenty of us have high success rates while approaching things differently than you. Imagine that.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2434997]I have gone from a daily routine of walking around El Centro and taking Chicas up to the room for sessions, to now looking for paper products and food in a matter of a few days.
It's all surreal, I can't believe what's going on, and Colombia I believe will be going into shock in the next few weeks when they realize the gravity of things.
Last Friday night I had dinner with a friend in Provenza, and after dinner around 9 PM we decided to spend some time in Parque Lleras. Lots of Chicas on the prowl looking for clients, nicely dressed, not any stunners though, along with all kinds of people hanging out in the eating establishments / bars around the park and as happy as can be.
On Saturday I went to El Centro and hung out in the afternoon, and there was all kind of talent available for sessions with so many new Venezuelan's available along with the Colombians, it was rocking as usual.
On Sunday the 15th I had a flight from Medellin back to LA thru Bogota. I arrive in Bogota, and board the flight for LA, upon boarding I get a Whatsapp Message from a buddy. Colombia is now shutting down the Country to all foreigners, with only citizens and residents allowed in effective Monday the 16th. I may have gotten on one of the last few flights out of the Country back to the USA. So here I am on a seven hour flight from Bogota to LAX wearing an N95 mask which I didn't take off during the entire flight, meaning no food or liquids, pondering what the hell I was coming back to in the USA.
So on Monday morning I decide to start getting supplies for my home. I live within walking distance of five major stores in Southern California which include a Pavillions, a CVS Pharmacy, a Whole Foods, a Gelsons, and a Trader Joes. None of these stores had either paper towels, toilet paper, pasta's, rice, or dried vegetables, and hardly any fresh fruits or vegetables. And no fresh meats except the Gelsons which is a very high priced market but with a very limited supply. Most all frozen food products were out of stock and there were long lines at all the stores. And while walking around, people stayed clear of one another and just kind of smiled while holding their breath when passing one another.
In walking to each of the stores, I also noticed a lot of the eating places were closed along with all the schools and bars as well.
Then in the afternoon I heard that most other Central and South American Countries are shuttering their borders along with the Airlines such as LATAM shutting down 90% of their flights.
All of this within a matter of a few days. I cannot believe what is happening. It's surreal, like night and day.[/QUOTE]For the past 3 weeks I've been trying to get people here in the US to take this seriously. There are still people who think it's all "fake news", or who are still trying to compare it to the flu. Makes me want to scream.
We're in virgin territory. My wild guess is that the Dow will hit 15,000 within the next 2 weeks. I won't even pretend to have any idea where it goes from there. I'm also guessing that non-essential industries will be required to shutdown. Worldwide, economies are going to take a beating.
Don't panic. Even though this is a genuine panic situation, don't. Stay at home if possible, conserve your resources and look for alternative solutions.
Try checking Asian and Hispanic food stores. The big mega markets are getting hit harder. Try shopping in the early morning. We don't have any shortages yet, but the supply chain is overwhelmed. Grocery delivery truck drivers are reporting that the stores have products, but they don't have enough people to get it out and on the shelves. Only buy what you need, except I'd grab a few canned goods each time. Worst case, you can donate them to a food bank when the sky stops falling.
From the time China realized they had a problem, until the number of new cases dropped off was about 30 days. I believe, by the beginning of June, we'll be picking up the pieces and trying to rebuild normal.
I like to think I treat all my chicas as humans and not just as something to fuck. I tip the ones really well that treat me well but I've had lots of issues with FB girls. And yes haha, I have considers that maybe it's just me (I've been blaming it on my lack of Spanish but who knows). I've had both issues where I get it in writing and then the girl makes some kind of excuse / lie to get out of it. And I've had where I didn't get it in writing and the girl will point back to our conversation and tell me she never agreed to something. And when I'm getting it in writing, it's not usually a long discussion or a debate. It's usually just my second or 3rd message says I want you to stay for 2-3 hours, 2 shots and GFE and they usually just say yes and tell me a price. So I don't think I'm killing the mood or vibe with excessive negotiation.
What I have noticed from others reports is that it sounds like most successful fb sessions, people tend to hang out for half an hour with the girl before going into sex (either rappi, dancing, 2 si weed or alcohol etc). I think that may be my problem as I've always went straight into the sex (so I could take a break between my 2 shots). So I'm going to try that next time. I guess I just feel weird talking for a long time when I don't know Spanish and have to google translate everything we're saying. Anyone have any advice on the pre-sex hangout that'll make the girl not want to leave immediately after? Wow I sound like such a puss LOL.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2434937]Have you considered that maybe it's just you?
I've never gotten everything in writing. In fact, I rarely get anything other than a price in writing. And I don't have these problems. Girls aren't trying to change things, girls are almost never trying to leave before I'm ready for them to go. Some don't want to leave then. I never have girls immediately getting dressed to leave, or giving excuses why they need to leave. I've never had a girl try to charge more for something and I rarely have anything to complain about. A few aren't as GFE as I want, but only a few.
I never have issues with the girls I want not responding to my messages. I also don't need more than 6 or 7 messages to set things up. And I never end up needing to argue about things.
However, seems like every "get it all in writing" monger has problems. They spend as much time arguing over the deal as they spend fucking. The girls all want to leave as soon as possible, or want to add extra charges.
Then again, I treat every chica like a human being instead of just something to fuck. They seem to appreciate that approach.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2435104]It's usually just my second or 3rd message says I want you to stay for 2-3 hours, 2 shots and GFE and they usually just say yes and tell me a price. So I don't think I'm killing the mood or vibe with excessive negotiation.
[/QUOTE]Try Grown Man's approach. Tell them how much you will pay them (say 120K) and tell them if they make you think they are your girlfriend then you will give them a good tip. Then you can end up paying your usual price but have better service due to the incentive.
If I am somewhere like Tijuana where I need to be specific, then I always ask the price first. Then once they give me a price I tell them what I want for that price.
[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2435104]I like to think I treat all my chicas as humans and not just as something to fuck. I tip the ones really well that treat me well but I've had lots of issues with FB girls. And yes haha, I have considers that maybe it's just me (I've been blaming it on my lack of Spanish but who knows). I've had both issues where I get it in writing and then the girl makes some kind of excuse / lie to get out of it. And I've had where I didn't get it in writing and the girl will point back to our conversation and tell me she never agreed to something. And when I'm getting it in writing, it's not usually a long discussion or a debate. It's usually just my second or 3rd message says I want you to stay for 2-3 hours, 2 shots and GFE and they usually just say yes and tell me a price. So I don't think I'm killing the mood or vibe with excessive negotiation.
What I have noticed from others reports is that it sounds like most successful fb sessions, people tend to hang out for half an hour with the girl before going into sex (either rappi, dancing, 2 si weed or alcohol etc). I think that may be my problem as I've always went straight into the sex (so I could take a break between my 2 shots). So I'm going to try that next time. I guess I just feel weird talking for a long time when I don't know Spanish and have to google translate everything we're saying. Anyone have any advice on the pre-sex hangout that'll make the girl not want to leave immediately after? Wow I sound like such a puss LOL.[/QUOTE]Mello Latin music, fruit salad, wine, appetizer food. 10 minute small talk, bring to you room give them a decent massage, if you eat pussy, then do that, whip out your dick and she will suck it and do whatever else you ask for the duration of the session. I accomplish this with minimal money, average place. I haven't gone over 200 k yet. And the only time I didn't cum was the condom broke and client got extremely upset since I was taking a long time to cum anyway.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2434466]I answered a specific question he asked..[/QUOTE]Girls from all venues if they can afford transportation work at lleras park. It's the largest and most expensive venue. Doesn't mean she's a 7 coming from el centro.