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Nice place to eat in Cebu if you love italian food at reasonable prize are vienna cafe in mango street (elio is the manager) and la buona forchetta the paolo in acacia street (paolo is the manager) and you can find both in the vikings (1 of the 3) every night after work LOL. Good advices and very good people particularly Paolo called in vikind daddy Pao.
[quote=robbaf]...it was easy 90 degrees f and no air moving. we ordered a round and before the drinks were delivered i called the momma over and she said that the air con was broke...wtf??? i counted 6 a/c units in my first glance around the room...we parted before the drinks arrived. we had already hit 4 bars and we were dropping around 3000p in each bar...to me this is another example of filipino business sense, save 1000p on ac and lose 5000p on sales each day. i am tired of going into a bar that opens at 8-9 pm and find that they turned off their fridge when they closed and just turned them on when they opened and oh by the way, are stocking it now with hot beer.
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agree...however, as you would already know electricity cost in the ph is truly out of this world with very high cost which would easily take a bars income.
not everyone spends 5000 pesos all nights...rarely folks like you or i tourist alike come and spend heavily...rest of the nights..its all the old retire expats who spend not more than 200 to 500 pesos and spend all night in the bar.
even if you would not agree with the above things, it is really unfair that you target every filipino who would have a business.
i enjoy reading your posts, i'm not trying to counter argue...but putting things in perspective...where is the need to bring in all filipinos in one basket just because ac was not on. its like saying all white man are ****s who come to asia. well, one would find it interesting that filipinos business in america is doing very well and they are one of the richest community in america.
on the same note...asian americans earn more than any other community in america including the majority white population. there household personal income is more than white, black and hispanics......they are doing way better in education than the jewish group also which were considered the most educated which the asian community has now surpassed.
if you read about the filipino community in eu or us you would know, they are as successful as japanese or koreans or any other races.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/filipino_american[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/asian_american[/url]
its few rotten apples that screw the whole thing...only few families control majority of business in ph and its laws are screwed to their advantage.....only recently the ph government agreed to kick start nuclear power plant again..which could solve the elec. problems. if you read philippines history...its the spanish chinese hybrid families that control everything here...ordinary filipinas whom we go on a date with or monger are the real pure bred in the ph who suffer the most.
I found Stripes to be awful. I can't remember if I posted about this already.
I'm generally a hard drinker...fast and hard... a barman's best customer. But I had just eaten before my early arrival at Stripes, so I was going much slower than usual. I had my eye on the first dancer I saw (usually only one at a time at this bar?), but she was already with a customer. I was hoping her client would leave, as they sometimes do.
Like I said, I was drinking a bit slower than usual, but was absolutely floored when the waitress (claimed to be the neice of the mamasan) suggested that the owner (she pointed at some fatfuck sitting at the bar) thought I was a poor customer because I wouldn't sit with a girl. Oh? She walked away and I thougt about that for about....oh, five seconds.
Well, since there was only one gal I was interested in, and she was sitting with a customer, and the owner/mgr/waitress had made me felt unwelcome, and the beer wasn't very cold from the git go, I decided to leave. I took another swallow, laid my money on the table, and walked out.
Just after I had gotten to the bottom of the steps, some male staff came out shouting angrily that I hadn't paid. Very aggressive. At that moment, the waitress had a word with him and he walked away, closed the door. No apology.
I could not / would not recommend stripes. I can't remember getting worse service from any bar in the Philippines in the 30 years I've been going there.
On the other hand, Blue Angels customer service was great. Ozzie owner seems like a nice guy. And as Robbaf says, the gals are plenty friendly.
HotRod was plenty cold when I went there, Robbaf, did you ask for some AC?
Since the place is for sale, maybe they are having problems paying the electric bills. Sweaty dancersd-- doesn't sound so bad. X
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Hahaha and I always say that to whoever I am bar hopping with. If it wasn't for my friends never visiting there and ask me...what about this bar:(
After four hard nights of bar hopping Cebu does get a bit small:(
I did finally get to Blue Angel and Stripes this trip. Blue Angel was okay, small but lots of fun girls. Stripes didn't seem as fun. High ceiling and the seating not conductive to group parties.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]I found Stripes to be awful. I can't remember if I posted about this already. [/QUOTE]
Agree:(
[QUOTE=X Man]HotRod was plenty cold when I went there, Robbaf, did you ask for some AC?
Since the place is for sale, maybe they are having problems paying the electric bills. Sweaty dancersd-- doesn't sound so bad. X[/QUOTE]
Of course I asked about the AC. Sad bar need new owner:(
Robb
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Agree...however, as you would already know electricity cost in the PH is truly out of this world with very high cost which would easily take a bars income.
Not everyone spends 5000 pesos all nights...rarely folks like you or i tourist alike come and spend heavily...rest of the nights..its all the old retire expats who spend not more than 200 to 500 pesos and spend all night in the bar.
Even if you would not agree with the above things, It is really unfair that you target every Filipino who would have a business. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the nice words! I live and work here and I understand the Philippine way of life....I wasn't trying to be mean...just stating the facts. I will not stay in any bar without AC. I will be back to Cebu Saturday and I will report on what I find. Here is a tease from Cebu....
[quote=born loser 5] agree. however, as you would already know electricity cost in the ph is truly out of this world with very high cost which would easily take a bars income.
yep. especially aircons which really push the power cost.
[quote=born loser 5]not everyone spends 5000 pesos all nights. rarely folks like you or i tourist alike come and spend heavily. rest of the nights. its all the old retire expats who spend not more than 200 to 500 pesos and spend all night in the bar.[/quote]of course not that's why most of these guys love ermita street walkers and "freebies" so much.
[quote=born loser 5]even if you would not agree with the above things, it is really unfair that you target every filipino who would have a business.[/quote]first bl robbaff is one of the good guys. it' ok to attack "minorities" and host country nationals on this forum. it's not ok to attack the "establishment. " you walking a fine line bl next you will get moderated or the life threatening banned.
[quote=born loser 5]i enjoy reading your posts, i'm not trying to counter argue. but putting things in perspective. where is the need to bring in all filipinos in one basket just because ac was not on. its like saying all white man are ****s who come to asia. well, one would find it interesting that filipinos business in america is doing very well and they are one of the richest community in america.
on the same note. asian americans earn more than any other community in america including the majority white population. there household personal income is more than white, black and hispanics. they are doing way better in education than the jewish group also which were considered the most educated which the asian community has now surpassed.
if you read about the filipino community in eu or us you would know, they are as successful as japanese or koreans or any other races.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/filipino_american[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/asian_american[/url]
its few rotten apples that screw the whole thing. only few families control majority of business in ph and its laws are screwed to their advantage. only recently the ph government agreed to kick start nuclear power plant again. which could solve the elec. problems. if you read philippines history. its the spanish chinese hybrid families that control everything here. ordinary filipinas whom we go on a date with or monger are the real pure bred in the ph who suffer the most.[/quote]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/model_minority[/url]
while some asian americans hold pride in the model minority image, the consensus in academia and the field of asian american studies is that the model minority myth is detrimental to the asian pacific american (apa) community, used to justify the exclusion of needy apa communities in the distribution of assistance programs, public and private, and understate or slight the achievements of apa individuals. communities that are especially affected are south east asian communities, e. g. cambodian-american, and the pacific islander community, e. g. persons with origins in guam and micronesia; these communities have much lower education rates and higher poverty rates. chinese, japanese, korean, filipino and indian americans are over twice as likely to graduate with a bachelor's degree than most members of other asian-american groups. the model minority myth relies on the aggregation of success indicators, hiding the plight of recent first-generation immigrants under the high success rate of more established asian communities.
bl have you heard the model minority myth? most of the asians who immigrate to the western nations were successful in their own countries. a lot of asian immigrates were students or already held professional degrees before immigrating which translate into an easier "adjustment" for them. trust me. there is not a horde of filipino jeepney drivers are going to the us then becoming computer engineers and doctors. as for the aristocratic families who keep pi from prospering well western nationals have these too.
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]Thanks for the nice words! I live and work here and I understand the Philippine way of life....I wasn't trying to be mean...just stating the facts. I will not stay in any bar without AC. I will be back to Cebu Saturday and I will report on what I find. Here is a tease from Cebu....[/QUOTE]
Wow nice pics...I love cebu also, its the best place to get laid on any day. Looking forward to your reports....I hope you give a visit to Juliana disco heard lots of 9er's from Arena and jaguar whom after 2 am go for very low bidding :)
good luck...
There are so many ways to cut the AirCon bills down, mostly by paying atttention to basic details of geometry and architecture. And you know, this information has all been out there since the first oil shocks in 1973.
No one here does any of it. Jisco, everyone in this town is still using electricity to make domestic hot water, for christ's sake. I hope they all go broke, they richly deserve it. Maybe then Darwinism can prevail.
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Even if you would not agree with the above things, It is really unfair that you target every Filipino who would have a business.[/QUOTE]
I am not trying to target anyone, I am just telling it as it is. I know Filipino business as I deal with it every day:(
I could post story after story about Filipino businesses that would have readers shaking their heads. One major company that I work with every day did not invoice me for $800,000 in two years and they didn't even know it until I told them.
Another way that I see this: Offer a Filipino 10 peso today or one peso each day for the next hundred days and see which one they will take:D
Robb
[quote=born loser 5] agree. however, as you would already know electricity cost in the ph is truly out of this world with very high cost which would easily take a bars income.[/quote]yep. especially aircons which really push the power cost. [quote=born loser 5]not everyone spends 5000 pesos all nights. rarely folks like you or i tourist alike come and spend heavily. rest of the nights. its all the old retire expats who spend not more than 200 to 500 pesos and spend all night in the bar.[/quote]of course not that's why most of these guys love ermita street walkers and "freebies" sogos and eurotels so much.
[quote=born loser 5]even if you would not agree with the above things, it is really unfair that you target every filipino who would have a business.[/quote]first bl robbaff is one of the good guys. it' ok to attack "minorities" and host country nationals on this forum. it's not ok to attack the "establishment. " you walking a fine line bl next you will get moderated or the life threatening banned. [quote=born loser 5]i enjoy reading your posts, i'm not trying to counter argue. but putting things in perspective. where is the need to bring in all filipinos in one basket just because ac was not on. its like saying all white man are ****s who come to asia. well, one would find it interesting that filipinos business in america is doing very well and they are one of the richest community in america.
on the same note. asian americans earn more than any other community in america including the majority white population. there household personal income is more than white, black and hispanics. they are doing way better in education than the jewish group also which were considered the most educated which the asian community has now surpassed.
if you read about the filipino community in eu or us you would know, they are as successful as japanese or koreans or any other races.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/filipino_american[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/asian_american[/url]
its few rotten apples that screw the whole thing. only few families control majority of business in ph and its laws are screwed to their advantage. only recently the ph government agreed to kick start nuclear power plant again. which could solve the elec. problems. if you read philippines history. its the spanish chinese hybrid families that control everything here. ordinary filipinas whom we go on a date with or monger are the real pure bred in the ph who suffer the most[/quote][url]http://en. wikipedia.org/wiki/model_minority[/url]
while some asian americans hold pride in the model minority image, the consensus in academia and the field of asian american studies is that the model minority myth is detrimental to the asian pacific american (apa) community, used to justify the exclusion of needy apa communities in the distribution of assistance programs, public and private, and understate or slight the achievements of apa individuals. communities that are especially affected are south east asian communities, e. g. cambodian-american, and the pacific islander community, e. g. persons with origins in guam and micronesia; these communities have much lower education rates and higher poverty rates. chinese, japanese, korean, filipino and indian americans are over twice as likely to graduate with a bachelor's degree than most members of other asian-american groups. the model minority myth relies on the aggregation of success indicators, hiding the plight of recent first-generation immigrants under the high success rate of more established asian communities.
bl have you heard the model minority myth? most of the asians who immigrate to the western nations were successful in their own countries. a lot of asian immigrates were students or already held professional degrees before immigrating which translate into an easier "adjustment" for them. trust me. there is not a horde of filipino jeepney drivers are going to the us then becoming computer engineers and doctors. as for the aristocratic families who keep pi from prospering well western nationals have these too.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]No Aircon in Hotrods. ...to me this is another example of Filipino business sense,
Robb[/QUOTE]Just to set the facts straight. Hotrods is owned by a Norwegian !
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]heard lots of 9er's from Arena and jaguar
good luck...[/QUOTE]
Where are these two places?
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]heard lots of 9er's from Arena and jaguar
good luck...[/QUOTE]
Where are these two places?
[QUOTE=Web Connect]Just to set the facts straight. Hotrods is owned by a Norwegian ![/QUOTE]
Okay just to set the record straight I don't care who owns it, every time that I have been in there it is MANAGED by a Filipino.
Thanks
Robb
[QUOTE=Web Connect]Just to set the facts straight. Hotrods is owned by a Norwegian ![/QUOTE]
Just wanted to comment on the place. I've only had two women from the place. One I barfined a couple of times and one a meet after work deal. Both were great in the sack and treated me really well. The mamasan, the woman, I forget her name has always been kind to me. I do remember some slight issues with air conditioning but nothing that I couldn't handle at the time. I actually look forward to going to the place, because I've had good luck in there. It's been about 8 months or so since I've been though.