Bangkok Reports

On soi Nana halfway down the street on the left and right side, you will find lots of Street walkers in the evening especially around 8 pm. I've passed this area many times and really don't pay any attention to the ladies as I am not interested in streetwalkers. But last night as I was walking I saw a lady standing in an area by herself and it was a little dark. As I walked by her she looked at me and gave me a very nervous slight smile. I was surprised because she was actually attractive in her early forties and dress nice. Her toenails and fingernails painted nicely and she had her hair up with glasses on. I didn't know if she was a streetwalker or if she was simply waiting for somebody so I didn't want to stopping and talking with them. As I walk by I walked a few steps and turned around and looked at her and she was still looking at me and gave me a great big smile. As a result I turned around and went back and said hello and spoke with her.

She actually spoke English a little bit but she seemed to be somewhat educated as she did not seem like the typical streetwalker. I asked her a few questions in a nice way and she told me that she is a teacher in Korat and she was visiting Bangkok. I later found out that she comes to Bangkok about once a month and headed to the same spot. I told her I was surprised that she was a teacher and being out here at night time. She said she had two teenage daughters and the the salary as a teacher was not enough to cover all their school expenses and the house expenses as she is a single mother. I felt kinda awkward is that she was nice intelligent and attractive to be in her forties and I felt like I was talking to a school teacher and it was uncomfortable for me to get to the subject of having sex with their. Fortunately she brought up the subject by saying she could give me a massage in my room. It is my general rule never to take a hooker back to my apartment so I gave her an excuse why she couldn't go to my home with me. She counter-offered with going to a short time hotel close by. I asked her how much and she hesitated and said how much I pay her. I hate those type of conversations with women so I just simply asked her again how much would you like. She paused, thought about it, and said 800 baht. I was shocked at the price was so low for a woman of her status. But I quickly agreed as I was quite interested in spending time with her.

We went to a hotel close by and paid 30ob for the room. She was really nice easy-going and sweet. We got to the room I went ahead and hugged her and felt nice hips and nice around breast. She was completely open to letting me touch her wherever I wanted to. I felt like we were on a date. I told her to go take a shower and she said she was shy to undress in front of me. I laughed and said no problem. She took off her clothes and I was a little concerned about the fact she had two kids and what it would look like. But to my surprise she had a nice round ass a nice tits and a nice little pussy with trim hairs. With her standing there getting ready to take a shower looking at her with their fingernails and toenails done their hair up I felt like I certainly had lucked up with a streetwalker. To make a long story short. When we got to the bed she gave me a nice slow blowjob and she let me finger her pussy which was tight wet and warm. She even let me finger her in the ass a little bit and by that time I was quite hard. I told her to lay down and I would get on top of her. She laid down on her back and spread her legs I couldn't help but to look at her pussy. She let me spread your pussy lips and look at our nice little clit. It was actually quite cute for a woman to be as I later found out 43 years old. As I suck her nice big round brown breast and fingered her she became more wet. I finally hopped on top of her and had several different positions with her. After the great sex I was expecting her to try to get more money out of me. Before we left the room I gave her $800 and she thanked me with no additional comments about more money.

During sex, her pussy was quite small and wet. I was surprised that she had two babies because her tummy was not sagging. Later she told me that her husband was a butterfly man and they separated about 4 years ago. And he does not provide any support to the family. So she is forced to look for extra income. It is amazing that so many Thai women in their late thirties forties and fifties will become streetwalkers. Some of them are actually nice ladies that if they were in a western country, they would never think of going to the street. They would have course went to court and force their ex-husbands to pay child support and alimony. But in Thailand, thai men give them babies and leave them to fend for themselves.

If I saw her again in a month or so standing on the street, I would definitely take her back to the room and give her more than 800 and make it an even 1000 b.

I would have to say that that experience was the best experience I had with a lady in her forties. I assume her daughters do not know their mom is spreading her legs in Bangkok. However, I have lots of respect for her doing whatever she can to support her children in hopes they would not have to do the same thing.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1896004]On soi Nana halfway down the street on the left and right side, you will find lots of Street walkers in the evening especially around 8 pm. I've passed this area many times and really don't pay any attention to the ladies as I am not interested in streetwalkers. But last night as I was walking I saw a lady standing in an area by herself and it was a little dark. As I walked by her she looked at me and gave me a very nervous slight smile.

If I saw her again in a month or so standing on the street, I would definitely take her back to the room and give her more than 800 and make it an even 1000 b.

I would have to say that that experience was the best experience I had with a lady in her forties. I assume her daughters do not know their mom is spreading her legs in Bangkok. However, I have lots of respect for her doing whatever she can to support her children in hopes they would not have to do the same thing.[/QUOTE]Now this is what you call nice and good heart, these women are left to fend themselves and the babies it is for us to help them as much as we can in the nicest possible manner, give them respect and love.

I admire when you say you have loads of respect for her I truly admire and respect you sire. God bless your kind soul.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1896004]
If I saw her again in a month or so standing on the street, I would definitely take her back to the room and give her more than 800 and make it an even 1000 b.

I would have to say that that experience was the best experience I had with a lady in her forties. I assume her daughters do not know their mom is spreading her legs in Bangkok. However, I have lots of respect for her doing whatever she can to support her children in hopes they would not have to do the same thing.[/QUOTE]You could have tipped her for good service already, if you really wanted to help her. Generally these types of honest girls do not ask for extra money. I would have tipped her if she was worth more than 800 and I know a lot of others would not.

It's actually a very common theme that many hookers are single mothers, and some have other extended family members to support. Also a common theme to meet part time hookers like this, at least it was many years ago, especially in the Thermae and Nana Carpark areas.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1895712]Again, interest in the updates about Nataree are not just in relation to that one particular parlor, but a reflection of how the new authorities are dealing with the P4 P scene in BKK. Things they are a changin' and I for one am glad to get the updates. Have not been to Nataree in over 10 years, but am still interested in how the case against them develops and how it will effect us all. I believe most of the punters are interested as well and the posts tend to back me up on that one.[/QUOTE]I am not finding that girls forced to have sex through servicing contract debts, are the best types of girls for me. Many can be lack lustre, in addition to inexperienced and low skills. This was a common theme for me at Nataree in the past. I often got clueless timid girls, perhaps bad luck. Certainly Nataree was not a great hit rate and very few girls I wanted to repeat, maybe there was one I repeated long ago. I am preferring girls with the freedom to do as they please, maybe work sex to pay for their studies, or other family members, or build a house, or are planning for a different profession when they get too old to be a hooker. Indeed some of my favourites already retired to something better, for them. I stay in touch with some retired girls I was close too.

One of my current hooker favourites now works weekends to fund her studies and younger sister's studies. She is far to beautiful to need to do it in the long term, and plans to quit in a year or two. I don't want her to quit at all, but if she does, I hope she will consider taking some old customers on the side, if she has a good time and the money is still needed, and no husband or boyfriend (I hope for too much at times). Better still I hope she has a few boyfriends, and not faithful to anyone. She claims to like sex a lot, so getting some nice customers is good for her. She can get a customer very easily within a few minutes, so is free to knock back any guys she does not like. That is the advantage of beauty and being one of the stand out girls in the bar. Once these girls get enough regulars, they hardly need to try any new guys that are not clearly to their liking. I can contact her on Line but know she doesn't read messages while concentrating on her studies. I am permitted to ring though. She knows I won't overdo it, and I call rarely.

One Thai girl I still fucked for many years on occasions after she officially retired from the job. She still liked to go out to dinner and a fuck, and make pick up some pocket money. Her boyfriend was more handsome but not exciting in terms of good food restaurants or on the bed. She is 45 now and sadly her face looks have got blotchy and deteriorated more than some girls that are 50. My interest has waned in the end.

Another girl, I cannot contact often in case her boyfriend is around, and he gets suspicious. LOL. She is very honest so doesn't fuck her old customers any more, I believe. Strangely there are some Thai hookers, that relatively very honest girls, despite the generalisation that all are big liars. Its just that we should not believe all the stories we here. They may be true or may not be. I generally don't want to here a lot of stories that may well be bullshit, so ask little about girls' private business. I leave it up to girls to talk about what they want to talk about rather than be the detective asking too much. One girl denied having a fake nose several times but eventually admitted it was a nose job with bone taken from behind the ear, an extremely good nose job, where I was not 100% sure, that looked very good to me (and that is rare). So this is a typical semi-truthful Thai girl. One does not known what is true and what is not. She has no boyfriend any more and pointed out which guy was her ex BF. Was the bar DJ, and she clearly ignored him these days (he has a new girl). LOL So who knows if she really has no BF any more. Just possible.

At Nataree, I got similar stories from several girls, so assumed there might be some truth to it. I speak Thai quite well, so conversation was not hard. I don't recall noticing that many girls spoke Thai badly though, like they might have come from Myanmar. There is a Tha-Yai girl from Burma that know very well for many years and she speaks Thai with strange pronunciation for some words, perhaps closer to northern Thai, but certainly weird tones, and some consonants changed. Like instead of Bat(But) being Thai word for an Id. card she says Wat. My impression was that most Nataree girls that I tried, were really Thai or could speak Thai well. I could be wrong as it is too many years ago now.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1896088]You could have tipped her for good service already, if you really wanted to help her. Generally these types of honest girls do not ask for extra money. I would have tipped her if she was worth more than 800 and I know a lot of others would not.

It's actually a very common theme that many hookers are single mothers, and some have other extended family members to support. Also a common theme to meet part time hookers like this, at least it was many years ago, especially in the Thermae and Nana Carpark areas.[/QUOTE]If you understand the pricing for Freelancers in the area known as the soi Nana, then you'll understand that the 800 I paid her is actually good. For those of you who don't know there is a standard pricing system for Freelancers in Bangkok.

After 18 years of living in Bkk, here are some of my insights. Just outside the Nana Hotel, where the parking lot is you will find younger Freelancers and lady boys. The younger Freelancers will be standing against the sign where it states Nana Hotel. These younger girls generally will ask anywhere from 1500 to 2500. Most will open the bid at 2000 and stand firm if they are young and cute. If the girl is not attractive of course she will be willing to settle for less. If you are old and unattractive, she will generally ask for more. But generally speaking most girls will be happy with 2,000 if they are young and attractive.

If it's late at night and they do not have any customers for that evening some of the younger and attractive girls are willing to settle for 1500. At 1 am or 2 am the bar girls also come out and become freelancers if they did not get a customer that evening in the bar.

As you walk further down Nana on the left and right hand side you will see women who are older. When I first started living here in Bangkok, these women would generally ask for 500 and you could negotiate them down to 300. Those days are long gone. However, the going price for these older Thai women are about 500 to 1000. Some old ones will go for 500. A lot of these women who are much older will settle for 500 and be happy with it. In Thailand, a Thai women who is 37 or older is considered old. I have seen Thai women in there 50s and 60s on soi Nana.

In my particular situation in my last post I stated that I paid her 800. That was her opening bid but she would have taken less. As in most Asian countries when you negotiate, the person selling the service always starts out at a higher price and expecting you to come down to a lower price. As noted in my previous post when she offered 800 and I took the offer without negotiating she was very happy. Therefore, my 800 payment was quite good.

It important to note that long Nana particularly in front of the Nana Hotel, the price of short time is simply ridiculous. However many guys over the years have taken the price the standard price 1,000 for young girls to 2000 or even 2500. I would caution anyone from paying these ridiculous outrageous prices. The only reason these girls ask for these silly prices because foreigners horny come here and throw money at these freelance girls. Bear in mind that for 2000 to 2500 you can have a very attractive lady from a massage parlor who's providing Full Service Plus a bath for up to 2 hours. So the idea of paying a freelancer the same price for one hour sex is silly.

Even though I like the freelancer I had, I will not spoil her for the next guy by throwing money at her and overpaying.

The Western misguided ideas about why the girls in Thailand come to work in Bangkok in the sex trade is still kicking and alive. When I first moved here to Bangkok more than 18 years ago, it was that these girls are forced into contracts and shipped to Bangkok from the countryside to work in the massage parlors.

Even today this is still talked about on this website. There is a simple reality why hundreds of thousands of Thailand girls come to Bangkok to work in the sex industry. It is simply money! A girl from the poor regions of Thailand can hope to make $150 - $200 a month working in a factory 6 days a week. Think about it, would you work in a factory if you get paid $150 to $200 a month working every day and you're only off day is Sunday and you are working 10 hours a day. Of course not.

These girls come to Bangkok because they can make more money in one week than they can make in one month if they stayed home in their own small fram city. Sure, from time to time there are people who sell their daughters or have contracts for the girl to work and pay off the contract. But I would venture to say this is probably less than 1/2 of 1% of the millons of girls working in the sex trade in Thailand. Consider the fact that many girls work in the sex trade are Freelancers. There's obviously no contract involved there. These girls simply get up go out to the street in the evening for the money. They're in business for themselves and there is tons of Freelancers in Thailand.

So whenever I see someone write on this on this website Thai girls are forced to work in the sex trade, I laughed to myself because I know that they have no clue of why women work in the sex trade in Thailand. They are simply repeating what they saw on a western news Outlet. The Western news outlets are famous for rehashing the reasons why these poor country girls are forced to work in the sex trade in Thailand. The Western news outlets pretend as if there is no sex for sale in their own Western Country. Therefore they have to constantly focus on Southeast Asia and the prostitution.

Regarding the topic of girls under 18 working in MP, they have always worked at massage parlors in Bangkok and other massage parlors throughout Thailand. This is no new news. What happened at the massage parlor recently was that they most likely failed to pay their monthly fee to the police and they were raided. Or they refused to pay in incrase fee.

Rich Thai men and government officials enjoy girls under 18 and that's why they're provided in the massage parlors. If you think these girls are provided for your pleasure, you do not understand Thailand culture. You will find these type of girls throughout Thailand and working and all sorts of massage parlors. And many customers of these massage parlors are well-to-do Thailand man, policeman, and politicians. So whenever you hear about a raids because the girl was under 18, itwas because they did not pay the increased monthly fee. Or, a western news Outlet wanted to make a story for themselves so they approach the Thai government with rumors of a massage parlor that had girls under 18.

Of course the government has to follow up on it or the news outlet from the Western Country will write something terrible about the Thailand government. So the Thai government will go through the charade of having a raid to satisfy the Western news media outlet.

If it was left up to the women working in the western news media, westerner men would be restricted from traveling outside your Western Country in search of sex with beautiful young Asian women in Thailand. The Western woman would require you to stay in your own country and put up with their BS and provide them with their alimony and child support on regular basis. You would be required to tell them they are beautiful even though they are gaining weight at an alarming rate and becoming the size of a battleship.

Thanks for the responses I received previously. Very helpful. Another couple of questions if that's OK.

- LD's. Are they optional? IE if I have no intention of taking home the lady who's asking for a LD, am I obliged to buy one anyway?

- Payment. Once a price is negotiated, do the girls want it up front or after the deed is done, so to speak!

Thanks again.

First of all. Props to the contributors of this forum and to Kumbu. The former for great intel and the latter for excellent entertainment and I say this with utmost respect.

My recent trip has left me with a smile on my face that has yet to disappear. Having played in Tijuana, US, Singapore, China, and Taiwan, you can say I am no newbie to this hobby of ours. This is how things unfolded for my personal adventure:

1) BJ Bars.

2) Beer Bars.

3) Gogo Bars.

4) Soapie.

5) Non-Pros.

When I first arrived, my first mission was to try out a soapie for the first time. Nataree was my primary target, but lucky me. Of all the years in existence, it gets raided shortly before I arrive. Thus, I go to Plan be with Annies. When I arrived at 1:00 in the afternoon, I was very disappointed in the offerings that were available that I elected to wait until something better appeared. Before I had the chance to sit down, a cutie just finished up with a customer and I quickly said 'I want her' (I think it was #71). It was obvious I was dealing with some sloppy seconds, but I had to try her. I wanted a soapie and she was the cutest gal around. The experience was solid, but it did not meet my threshold of something I would need to experience in the future. Consider this a check mark on the bucket list. My fondest memory of the experience was this chick telling me to lay straight on my back which gave her the opportunity to grind on me like no other has grinded on me before. Wow! Although she gave me her phone number for a follow-up, I was quite disappointed when she asked for a tip. Straight up buzz kill!

I moved on, regained my energy, and headed straight to SOL. Aka Star of Light BJ Bar. This place was much smaller than I could have managed. I recall 2 medium sized booths and a bar. I chilled out in one booth and ask for a beer. After receiving the beer, the mamasan of the place timidly asks me if I want 'sucky'. I suggested, 'Why not?' and she offers me the best looking girl hanging around who happened to be in the bar in the time. Meanwhile, I ask for a second girl who can provide a rimjob and guess what, the only other girl in the bar at the time says, 'I do that'. So I say phuck it and let's do it. This was some cool and nasty chit with one girl blowing me and one girl licking my pie hole. This was certainly a pleasurable experience and before too long, I busted a nut for a BBBJ and CIM. Although there were no other customers in the bar at the time, other BJ artists and bartender were there to witness the entire event.

Speaking of BJ bars, I did manage to visit Afterskool and Kasalong. Kasolong had some cuties with the schoolgirl outfits, but I found these gals to be too mechanical. I asked for 2 girls again and one of them had great technique while the other needed a couple more years of experience under her belt. I spent as much as +35 mins before one of them began to hint at time so I turned my imagination on a bit and before you know it, I was busting a nut in her mouth. BBBJ + CIM. In the process, I managed to pull off the bra and play with kitty, but nothing near a GFE. Afterskool happened to be a bit different. Same schoolgirl outfits and cute girls, but a little bit more playful and less mechanical. After a few beers and a bit of time I managed to connect with 2 gals which indicated they were half sisters, but found hard to believe. I elected to request a BJ from the youngest of the 2 which was reported to be 21 years old. This was an amazing experience in the fact that she did not seem to be very experienced and her friends were giving her support along the way. In fact, her "half sister" at one point started playing with me for awhile to help her buddy out which I discovered to be amazing. Meanwhile, this was all out in the open with all those nearby to see, but I never ended up busting a nut this night, mostly due to the fact that I had been so active this week. The other complication for this evening was that I had spotted a cutie in a differently dressed outfit that I was gunning for. Unfortunately, some geeky guy had already established connection with her that evening, making it hard for me to peel her away. She did come up to me at one point, grabbed little Kumbu (homage to the real Kumbu) and gave me a GFE kiss, but it was clear that she was trying to reserve me for the next evening, Unfortunately, I would be leaving the next morning.

Of the BJ Bars, I would rate SOL #1 for the kinkiness, Afterskool #2 for the fun, and Kasalong#3 for at least having young and cute girls.

On to the beer bars. Unfortunately, I did not have a huge sample size, but I managed to check out Beer Garden. I would say +90% were not worth taking home. The girl I did manage to take home was a result of unexpected circumstances. Let me rewind a bit. It was raining hard this night and I was drenched. As I am nearing the bar, I approach a sexy, but professionally looked girl who offered to cover me up with her umbrella which I thought to be extremely generous and kind. We both approach the bar and I thank her for her kind generosity before leaving her to go situate myself. I went to go park myself and land a beer or two. About 30 minutes later, a girl approaches and sits down next to me. It's the umbrella girl. I treat her to a drink to thank her for her generosity and we end up hanging out for the rest of the night. I eventually LT her for $3 k Baht and have some nasty sex all night long. In fact, I had to tell her to chill out because I had to go to work the next day. The one thing unique about this gal was that she was Cambodian which was a first for me. A bit old, but Cambodian and friendly so why not. This gal was certainly GFE. Heck, she even ironed my wrinkly shirt in the morning before I headed out to work.

And then there were Gogo bars. Checked out Suzie Wong's, Bacara, Tulip, and Crazy Horse. Never gained traction at Tulip. Bacara had a long line to enter the bar, but I was too impatient to give it a try. Went to Crazy Horse, but found the place to be too 'hard'. Managed to sync up with one cutie who seemed to entertain the idea of a threesome. But soon after I paid for a lady drink, she began flirting with another dude. F that. By the end of the night, both her and I ended up going home alone which I did not completely mind. On a different night, I checked out Suzie Wong and I experienced the unexpected. As others have reported, 10 PM is when they begin some of their shows and I found them to be quite entertaining in an artistic way. Most notably the lesbian shows, the savage islander dances, and the glow-in-the-dark flower painting. Yeah. I'm a softy. Nevertheless, unimpressive gals from a looks perspective, but I managed to spot a cutie named Nan which I end up LT her for $4 k Baht. At first, I was full of regret as she was behaving like a starfish. But for some reason, she began opening up and became one of the greatest sexual adventures of my lifetime. I always tend to approach my gals with GFE in mind, but this gal did not want DFK and in fact I was ready to throw in the towel and not bone this chick at all. But for some reason I said, just 'do it' . You paid $4 k baht numb nuts. So we started the deed and it was good. I eventually led her to the side of the bed and start doing her missionary style while she is lying down on her back and I am standing up. The sex is nice and I can tell she is getting into it. Before you know it, she grabs onto my neck and pulls herself up to climb onto me as I am standing. This is a rare position for me but I go for it and she is just climbing up and down on me as we puck. Soon enough, I hear her nearing orgasm, followed by some moisture pouring down my legs. She squirted! I eventually take care of my business, but I glow in the fact that I made a gal squirt for the first time since college, more than 20 years ago.

Last but not least, the most memorable experience of my stay in Bangkok, was when I befriended a waitress at a reputable restaurant. She was so beautiful and friendly that it is her which has me longing to return back to Bangkok. On my last day, I went to her restaurant and told her that I was disappointed that I did not have enough time to ask her for her number and take her out to dinner. She gave me all the assurance that she would have obliged and I believed her. Why did I have to leave so quickly!

So in summary, I had a great time. Fun can be experienced to suit any interest. I wish I could go back soon to try the non-pro.

[QUOTE=Bunnies;1896902]Thanks for the responses I received previously. Very helpful. Another couple of questions if that's OK.

- LD's. Are they optional? IE if I have no intention of taking home the lady who's asking for a LD, am I obliged to buy one anyway?

- Payment. Once a price is negotiated, do the girls want it up front or after the deed is done, so to speak!

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Lady Drinks for a girl you have no intent of barfining is entirely unnecessary. It gets a bit complicated when you find a girl you are interested in and she turns up with a fugly friends and asks for drinks for both of them. Because once you let them get a foot in the door then there is no end. Before you know it you will have 4 ladies around you with 8 drinks on your table and stash of bills to pay up. Yes, you have to be polite but do not be a wimp. You are the customer and you call the shots. There are enough reports here about how to navigate these shark infested waters. Read and learn more.

Girls might ask for payment upfront. Take that as a red flag and move to the next girl / bar. DO NOT pay ahead of service. It leaves the girl with no incentive to perform. Tell the girl clearly that you will pay only AFTER the deed is done and if happy, you will tip well. Tip well means 100 be ST and 200 THB LT. You can even show her the money and tell her its on the table for her to pick up when she is done but do not give the money to the girl before services are provided. A girl asking for money upfront is most likely a runner. Do not get carried away by any degree of beauty or persuasion.

[QUOTE=Bunnies;1896902]1- if I have no intention of taking home the lady who's asking for a LD, am I obliged to buy one anyway?

2 - Payment. Once a price is negotiated, do the girls want it up front or after the deed is done, so to speak!

[/QUOTE]I recommend that you always treat the girls good, but never be a doormat. You are the customer thus you are in charge, just be nice about it. If you invite a Bar Girl to sit down with you, a LD is expected because you are taking her out of circulation. If you don't buy her a lady drink after inviting her over, your reputation will be shit and the girl will not stay very long at your table. But it is an entirely a different matter when a girl sits down next to you uninvited. In this scenario you are under no obligation to buy her a drink unless you find her attractive and want to keep things moving in the right direction with her. Uninvited girls get the message pretty quickly and will move on if you don't encourage them by buying them a drink. There is no foul, no harm done to either party here, just be polite.

Now many times when I meet an attractive Go Go girl for the first time, I just want to check her out and get to know her a little that 1st night. In this scenario I ALWAYS buy her a Tequila or two. This sets the stage for the 2nd time I see her when I do barfine her. BUT let me be perfectly clear here: I am talking about a girl I have an interest in. I NEVER NEVER buy lady drinks for girls I am not interested in. I just politely say no thanks, I am not interested and the girl leaves.

A 3rd scenario is when I have a girl that I intend to barfine on the evening in question or I have already barfined previously and I like her. Invariable while we are sitting together in her bar, a friend, a cousin or a sister will stop buy to see what's up and yes, to pick up a drink commission. In this situation, buying drinks for the friends of my girl is not required, but I highly recommend being friendly and buying a round or two for the sister, cousin, or BFF even if you are not interested in shagging the 2nd or 3rd girl. You can and should limit the number of girls in your party to 1 or 2 or 3 other girls depending on your mood and wallet, but I have found that it pays dividends later to be friendly with one or two of your girl's friends because it helps create the good vibes between you and your girl that often leads to GFE and great sex. Again, you don't have to buy anyone else a drink, but I like to think of it as lubricating the system and ensuring I have a good time later. As an added benefit to this strategy, I sometimes get around to shagging the friend, the cousin, or the sister at a later date, so for me buying a round or two for a my girl's girl friends has become something I just do when I am in a Go Go naturally without really thinking much about it. I like having a good time in the Go Go and in the loom. It's what I do. 555.

On the payment issue: Never pay in advance for sexual favors except in massage parlors where it is sometimes required. That's like a major rule in mongering. Thankfully this hardly ever comes up with Go Go girls. Their default payment schedule is barfine and drink tab paid in the bar and the girl gets hers afterwards. It is a real tell when a Thai working girl asks for payment a head of time. It is a deal breaker as far as I am concerned and I would ultimately reject a gir who insisted on this payment schedule. With independent girls (FL's and SW's) the payment schedule is less set in stone, but again I would strongly advise to never pay in advance. I picked up a Vietnamese girl at the Beach Club in KL one time and she asked for payment in advance once we were in the room. I told her I was a gentleman and that if she treated me good I would treat her real good as well. We started kissing, but she interrupted things twice and asked two more times for prepayment so I finally said, "look if you are unhappy with this arrangement we can call it off and I will take you back to the Beach Club where you can find another customer and I can find another girl." That was the end of the discussion. We took off our clothes, hit the shower, and she showed me a real good time. I ended up giving her a tip because she was really good. I guess some asshole had stiffed her before so she felt vulnerable. I have never had a payment issue arise in LOS. Thai girls know payment comes at the end.

[QUOTE=Hootas;1896925]First of all. Props to the contributors of this forum and to Kumbu. The former for great intel and the latter for excellent entertainment and I say this with utmost respect.

My recent trip has left me with a smile on my face that has yet to disappear. Having played in Tijuana, US, Singapore, China, and Taiwan, you can say I am no newbie to this hobby of ours. This is how things unfolded for my personal adventure:

1) BJ Bars.

2) Beer Bars.

3) Gogo Bars.

4) Soapie.

5) Non-Pros.

When I first arrived, my first mission was to try out a soapie for the first time. Nataree was my primary target, but lucky me. Of all the years in existence, it gets raided shortly before I arrive. Thus, I go to Plan be with Annies. When I arrived at 1:00 in the afternoon, I was very disappointed in the offerings that were available that I elected to wait until something better appeared. Before I had the chance to sit down, a cutie just finished up with a customer and I quickly said 'I want her' (I think it was #71). It was obvious I was dealing with some sloppy seconds, but I had to try her. I wanted a soapie and she was the cutest gal around. The experience was solid, but it did not meet my threshold of something I would need to experience in the future. Consider this a check mark on the bucket list. My fondest memory of the experience was this chick telling me to lay straight on my back which gave her the opportunity to grind on me like no other has grinded on me before. Wow! Although she gave me her phone number for a follow-up, I was quite disappointed when she asked for a tip. Straight up buzz kill!.[/QUOTE]On my next trip I hope I can follow your template here. You covered a lot of ground and did well. I was not that happy w / the sellers market in Bangkok (April / May) but you steered around the BS and enjoyed yourself.

Well done and thanks for the ground intel, much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1897085]Lady Drinks for a girl you have no intent of barfining is entirely unnecessary. It gets a bit complicated when you find a girl you are interested in and she turns up with a fugly friends and asks for drinks for both of them. [/QUOTE]Been there, done that. Ha Ha. Why do pretty Go Go girls always have a fugly friend or a DUFF (dumb ugly fat friend)? I don't know, but I am really easy. I will buy the DUFF 1 drink and then I expect her to skedaddle when her dance set comes up and not return. LOL. Many times while I am partying in the Go Go, a sexier girl friend will stop on by and say Hi. It is then the law of natural selection. I got room for one sexy girl on my right and one sexy girl on my left and possibly one more sexy girl on my lap. Sorry nice little DUFF, but you have to go. Its time for you to find yourself a customer. I am not him.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1897141]Been there, done that. Ha Ha. Why do pretty Go Go girls always have a fugly friend or a DUFF (dumb ugly fat friend)? I don't know, but I am really easy. I will buy the DUFF 1 drink and then I expect her to skedaddle when her dance set comes up and not return. LOL. Many times while I am partying in the Go Go, a sexier girl friend will stop on by and say Hi. It is then the law of natural selection. I got room for one sexy girl on my right and one sexy girl on my left and possibly one more sexy girl on my lap. Sorry nice little DUFF, but you have to go. Its time for you to find yourself a customer. I am not him.[/QUOTE]Haha, because the pretty one gets a +2 pretty rating when you see her next to the friend. Whether conscious or sub-conscious the pretty girls always know they look better next to older and uglier friends. For these girls the prettier ones don't want the competition from another hottie. If it's a light night at the bar and she is 1 of 12 and pretty her odds are way better than being in a group of 10 hotties of total 50 girls. Explains some why there are always a few hotties even at less popular bars, as % of successful marks they probably outdo the girls at their level most of the time.

I agree though buying drinks for the friends can come back to benefit you. Just two examples from my most recent trips. My usual girl can get jealous and even though it's ridiculous that we stop at her bar and then she gets upset when she spies looking a bit too hard at a girl on stage, the less attractive friend focuses my attention on my girl and after money attention is what these girls crave the most. The other way it can come back is that in another time she got pissed at me for something and was angry then the friend stops by who I had always bought a drink from and got me out my hole. I think it also helps establish the temporary trust you need with a girl your taking back to a hotel room to do nasty things with. If she has seen you be generous with a friend less likely to be concerned about money later on. The downside is of course she might make you out to be an easy mark. Always got to walk that line.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1897141]Been there, done that. Ha Ha. Why do pretty Go Go girls always have a fugly friend or a DUFF (dumb ugly fat friend)? I don't know, but I am really easy. I will buy the DUFF 1 drink and then I expect her to skedaddle when her dance set comes up and not return. LOL. Many times while I am partying in the Go Go, a sexier girl friend will stop on by and say Hi. It is then the law of natural selection. I got room for one sexy girl on my right and one sexy girl on my left and possibly one more sexy girl on my lap. Sorry nice little DUFF, but you have to go. Its time for you to find yourself a customer. I am not him.[/QUOTE]Well said.

Hi all,

I've run out of Cialis here in Bangkok, does anyone have a recommendation of a trustworthy pharmacy? Doesn't even have to be cheap, just genuine.

Or if there is a generic someone could recommend, I would be interested also.

Thanks if you can help!