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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1899322]Are you referring to high class ladies hanging around Hotel bar, but not actually working there? I don't understand why the word freelancers appears so much in your list.

I find the list a bit mystifying myself. There seems to be the assumption that you will get something very special indeed by spending a large sum of money.

The money and quality of the lady may not be closely related. Plenty of Escort sites are offering ladies that are not specially attractive to me. The looks are fake or too plastic.

I think you should try a few alternatives and see where you can find the most appealing ladies, whatever the price is.

Just get it clear if you want looks or PSE performance. Maybe can get both from some Escorts, I don't know. I always want to see the lady before choosing. That is my problem, with escorts. She maybe too fat or too skinny. May have fake tits. Etc.

Oily PSE shops are great for PSE performance and ordinary looks. Other places maybe good for looks, but not getting the PSE.

I am happy to find a stunning girl with a good GFE but not PSE. Mostly I find them in bars, because I get time to check my interaction with a girl is good before buying. I see them relatively undressed or completely undressed. I know where to find very pretty faces, great bodies, and great tits, GFE performance, maybe not all these things on the same girl. LOL Variety.

When I see some girl, really stunning, I will be prepared to pay more, if necessary, but hard to find them available. Even the Escort web sites are not helping much. Maybe I will try some G Clubs, if I have money and time to burn. I know where to find girls that don't fuck too. Not very useful. I recently tried the Thermae, but it was disappointing, lacking real stunners, and most girls dressed too conservatively, hiding a body that may or may not be good.

I am more than happy to try a really stunning Coyote girl, of which there are very few, if she is available for fucking. The problem is finding very most stunning ones to be available. They are usually booked up by their regular customers. A great deal of patience may be needed. I know one such girl I would like to try. I don't know yet if she is willing to have sex after paying the barfine. I do see customers arrive late and barfine her after the barfine price has dropped. Do they get sex? I don't know. Perhaps officially no, but in reality maybe? Depends on how much girl likes the customer. She told one regular customer (uglier than me LOL), that she does not fuck, but I am sceptical if this is always true.

As a monger, just entertaining a girl at a G club, with no sex possibility, does not interest me that much. I spend money, I want the sex too.[/QUOTE]This is just a long winded way of saying you should not spend 10 K Baht on one girl. Thanks for coming out Syzgies!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1898706]I am looking for the opinion of some of you regarding this. If you wanted to spend 10,000 Baht for an encounter with a white skinned model type of provider, where would you source from or who would you choose? Some options I'm thinking of are the following:

1. Model Freelancer from We Chat or other chat app.

2. Outcall escort agency.

3. G Club lady.

4. Freelancer from a high end bar.

5. Sideline girl from website.

6. Coyote from Go go bar.

7. High end massage lady.

Please let me know which option you feel would be the best or if another option is available. P.S. Please don't comment if you are going to refer to being too expensive and so on. I'm looking for a high end model encounter only. This thread is no place for cheap Charlie's so please refrain from commenting if you fall into this category. No offence intended.[/QUOTE]I would go #7. Place like lorde. And if you have a good time and hit it off may be able to arrange something outside of the place. Either on or off the books, but still at a discount to the 75 min rate. I did this last trip with a beauty from northern thailand that I met on the trip before.

[QUOTE=MarkBrown;1898576]Big fan of it here. I'm just wondering what percentage of freelancers do it or is it particularly hard to find a girl who does? I've had some nights in SE Asia where I've been looking for quite a while until I've found it.

Are most girls OK with it? Freelancers on the street more likely?

What's been your experience?[/QUOTE]For best results, try one of the well-known PSE oily massage places (Tulip, Sky, Snow White, Cherry, Bongkot). Ask for anal (A+) in advance when seeing the lineup.

Female freelancers on the street are hit an miss for A+, I'd say most are not eager to do it, but some might be needy enough to agree. Moreover, freelancers on Sukhumwit are not the most attractive bunch these days. BTW, if you're not averse to ladyboys, that's an obvious group where A+ is virtually guaranteed, and they tend to look better too (not my kind of thing, though).

Here are a few helpful tips for newbies when visiting the Go-Go bars in Bangkok. First, do not act like a newbie. When you walk into a go-go bar and sit down the Go-Go girls are starting to size you up. How you dress, how you look, how old or young you are.

When a girl comes over and sits down with you and start ask you the standard questions, which are how long you stay in Bangkok, where are you from, where's your hotel, have you been to Bangkok before, what job you do. These questions are all standard bar girl questions designed to determine if you are a newbie and how horny you are. If you tell her that this is your first time to Bangkok and you're a tourist here she knows you do not know your way around the Go-Go bars. Therefore she will always give you high prices.

When I was in one of the bars last night at Nana, a gentleman fresh off the plane from America was sitting next to me. He was wide-eyed and bushy-tailed seeing all the beautiful bar girls dancing topless on the stage. One of the girls came over and sat with him and he was happy to have a beautiful young Thai girl topless sitting next to him. She started in with the standard questions and he answered each question incorrectly.

But Withi 15 minutes, he bar finder paying 2,500 for a girl that would normally go for 1,500 baht to 2000. Other words she took him to the cleaners.

You have to understand that it's just business in Bangkok with selling sex. They will get as much from you as they can. Don't take it personally, but don't overpay. The questions you should be asking her is how old she is, has she ever had a baby, how long she's been in Bangkok. This will give you a chance to size her up. When she ask you the standard questions do not tell the truth. Tell her that you work in Bangkok and that you come to that particular bar many times. She then understands that you know the pricing there and that you're a regular there and that you work in Bangkok and you will notoverpay.

When you negotiate with bar girls always do so in a nice pleasant manner. If the girls for example says here price is 2,500. You can politely reply by saying, last time I was here I found a nice girl and I paid 1500 for short time. She might be surprised at this and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't I use his same line and more than often I've gotten a price in the range of 1500,1700 or 2000 baht. The average is around 1800.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1899600]Here are a few helpful tips for newbies when visiting the Go-Go bars in Bangkok. First, do not act like a newbie. When you walk into a go-go bar and sit down the Go-Go girls are starting to size you up. How you dress, how you look, how old or young you are.

When a girl comes over and sits down with you and start ask you the standard questions, which are how long you stay in Bangkok, where are you from, where's your hotel, have you been to Bangkok before, what job you do. These questions are all standard bar girl questions designed to determine if you are a newbie and how horny you are. If you tell her that this is your first time to Bangkok and you're a tourist here she knows you do not know your way around the Go-Go bars. Therefore she will always give you high prices.

When I was in one of the bars last night at Nana, a gentleman fresh off the plane from America was sitting next to me. He was wide-eyed and bushy-tailed seeing all the beautiful bar girls dancing topless on the stage. One of the girls came over and sat with him and he was happy to have a beautiful young Thai girl topless sitting next to him. She started in with the standard questions and he answered each question incorrectly.

But Withi 15 minutes, he bar finder paying 2,500 for a girl that would normally go for 1,500 baht to 2000. Other words she took him to the cleaners.

You have to understand that it's just business in Bangkok with selling sex. They will get as much from you as they can. Don't take it personally, but don't overpay. The questions you should be asking her is how old she is, has she ever had a baby, how long she's been in Bangkok. This will give you a chance to size her up. When she ask you the standard questions do not tell the truth. Tell her that you work in Bangkok and that you come to that particular bar many times. She then understands that you know the pricing there and that you're a regular there and that you work in Bangkok and you will notoverpay.

When you negotiate with bar girls always do so in a nice pleasant manner. If the girls for example says here price is 2,500. You can politely reply by saying, last time I was here I found a nice girl and I paid 1500 for short time. She might be surprised at this and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't I use his same line and more than often I've gotten a price in the range of 1500,1700 or 2000 baht. The average is around 1800.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice. I would just add RTFF!

Thanks to this forum I managed to skip the newbie phase in my visits to Indonesia, Philippines and Bangkok.

It's not rocket science. You just need to be confident, and make sure you know what you are doing and what is the going rate.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;1899166]I just looked at images of Club Mixx in Bangkok on Google Images and it doesn't look like any working girls. They all look regular. Is this a good pick up spot for WG's?[/QUOTE]Mixx is 70% WG and 30% normal girls. Its the best pick up club in BKK as of now with the most high end price tags. Women love to go to Mixx for work but on weekends it is 300 bht to go inside for women also.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;1899166]I just looked at images of Club Mixx in Bangkok on Google Images and it doesn't look like any working girls. They all look regular. Is this a good pick up spot for WG's?[/QUOTE]No WG in a place like Mixx is going to sport a label on her forehead that says "Pick Me Up". That happens on the street or in some discos like Climax.

There was a spirited discussion sometime back on the Philippine thread about working girls and their work status. Professional, semi-professional, full-time, part-time, regular girl out to earn some quick money to support some pressing needs, girls looking to have a good time with no cash, but only accepts expensive gifts like jewelry, perfumes, holidays and what not, etc.

IMHO if a girl you just met an hour ago, sleeps with you and you pay (for) her as much as a dime, she is a working girl.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1899796]No WG in a place like Mixx is going to sport a label on her forehead that says "Pick Me Up". That happens on the street or in some discos like Climax.

There was a spirited discussion sometime back on the Philippine thread about working girls and their work status. Professional, semi-professional, full-time, part-time, regular girl out to earn some quick money to support some pressing needs, girls looking to have a good time with no cash, but only accepts expensive gifts like jewelry, perfumes, holidays and what not, etc.

IMHO if a girl you just met an hour ago, sleeps with you and you pay (for) her as much as a dime, she is a working girl.[/QUOTE]I would agree with your comments. Addition, I would like to add that of the group, the most expensive girl in the long run is the one you end up buying gifts for. She will pretend that you and she are dating, and that you're going out for a nice evening. When you're out during the evening she will occasionally ask for little things, then as time goes by she will ask him more things.

For example, when you go to the grocery store she will buy lots of different groceries for her mother or sister. And you think to yourself why are you only buying this when we are together and then when you get it to the checkout stand she look at you as if you were supposed to pay. I can assure you that this type of girl is the most expensive working girl of them all.

That's why most experts that I know that stay in Bangkok prefer to simply pay as they go. In other words, pay for sex and then she's gone.

The Thai girls are a unique breed. They, maybe because of their religion, do not attach any great stigma to having sex for money. In fact, in Thailand, this is a part of the culture that goes back hundreds of years.

I have met and have sex with many freelance working girls that during the week they were working in a bank, office girls, working in retail shops in the mall, and other jobs that would be considered normal jobs for girls. They have no qualms about working a regular job during the week and then on the weekend picking up some extra money by spreading her legs for an expat.

However, they wouldn't not want to be seen with you if they run into one of their coworkers. They would be questioned when they got back to work about how they knew you and where she met you. She will certainly make up some lie and never state that you were a customer.

When you walk through the mall during lunch time and you see all the office girls going out with their buddies to have lunch. Many of these girls look unattainable. But believe me, many of these girls have their price. And if you meet them in the right situation and the right bar and you can pay the right amount of money and she would be happy to spread her legs for you. And come Monday morning she'll be a regular office girl.

I have learned that in Thailand it's not a question of will a regular girl have sex with you, it's a question of how much will you pay her. Just about every girl has their price, some girls have a very low price and these are the common streetwalkers. And some girls prices are a lot higher, these are the girls who work in the office and then party at an expat Club on the weekend and spread their legs for the right amount of money.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1899332]Does she have a letter (identifier) on the Dr. BJ Website? I could very easily do letter Z (exactly my spec ) or letter L. They are very good looking to my taste. I saw letter L plenty of times in the past while taking a different girl. I suppose if I go there now, gossip news will spread very fast indeed to my old regular girl.[/QUOTE]I'd say she looks like Z. But just ask for forget.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1899693]Mixx is 70% WG and 30% normal girls. Its the best pick up club in BKK as of now with the most high end price tags. Women love to go to Mixx for work but on weekends it is 300 bht to go inside for women also.[/QUOTE]I very much agree with both the statistical estimate, as well as the assessment of Mixx by Alex here.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1899796]No WG in a place like Mixx is going to sport a label on her forehead that says "Pick Me Up". That happens on the street or in some discos like Climax.[/QUOTE]True, very true. I would recommend that you restrict your attention to the girls that are showing you some attention. If you just can't get a girl to meet your eye gaze, and you've tried for a good amount of time, then the girl is either there for a non-P4 P party night, or she is there accompanying a friend who is looking for P4 P, or she just is not in to you. In any of those scenarios, I would say the girl is still attainable, but it would require far too much effort and / or money.

So I would not worry about who is a working girl and who is not, just focus on who is playing eyesies with you.

[QUOTE=Kumbu;1899901]I very much agree with both the statistical estimate, as well as the assessment of Mixx by Alex here.

True, very true. I would recommend that you restrict your attention to the girls that are showing you some attention. If you just can't get a girl to meet your eye gaze, and you've tried for a good amount of time, then the girl is either there for a non-P4 P party night, or she is there accompanying a friend who is looking for P4 P, or she just is not in to you. In any of those scenarios, I would say the girl is still attainable, but it would require far too much effort and / or money.

So I would not worry about who is a working girl and who is not, just focus on who is playing eyesies with you.[/QUOTE]Places like Mixx are of a different breed only, you have loads of semi-pros who only on the weekend want to earn some more money just by meeting an expat and earning more and then you have the hardcore WGs who visit Mixx almost every night from Spasso or climax or other clubs of BKK to earn that second round or for customers.

Kumbu man: Salute you of the art which I don't know is natural or you have learned and acquired over the years but its awesome. Never ever stop writing and posting:

See you in DXB: If you can or maybe we catch up in LOS:

Cheers,

Alex

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1899805]I have learned that in Thailand it's not a question of will a regular girl have sex with you, it's a question of how much will you pay her. Just about every girl has their price, some girls have a very low price and these are the common streetwalkers. And some girls prices are a lot higher, these are the girls who work in the office and then party at an expat Club on the weekend and spread their legs for the right amount of money.[/QUOTE]This is a common and dangerous misconception. Sure, Thailand is less squeamish about sex for money than the West, and sure, you can meet an occasional "office girl" (all it means is she doesn't work outdoors) and pay her for sex (if you're not too repulsive and have some manners). However, it's by no means the rule, and by no means applies to everyone or at least the majority.

Yes, almost every girls who hangs out in hooker venues (or "expat venues" if you want to put it politely) will be either a hooker or pretending not to be but willing to do it anyway for the right guy / amount, despite having a daytime office job. However, generalizing this and thinking that you could pay any Thai woman for sex, just if the amount and approach is right, is delusional.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1900146]This is a common and dangerous misconception. <SNIP>

However, generalizing this and thinking that you could pay any Thai woman for sex, just if the amount and approach is right, is delusional.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree Croc. This is the same extrapolation that guys make about filipinas (where I have lived for almost 20 years), and it's very wrong and will get those who assume this into serious trouble if they are not careful. Girls who hang around monger type establishments are more than likely "available", but the majority of women (probably 80%) which translates into millions, will run away from sex with any foreigner.

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1895532]Bargain. Lek massage on soi 22, right by the queens park bars, 250 thb for hour thai massage, facilities are as nice as any other regular shop (hot ball massage is a nice option same price or just a little exra) still private room though.

Health land. Behind t21 soi 19, probably highest quality standard and nicer facilities.

Thong lo. Lots of places on soi 55, palm herbal spa was nice and fanciest setup I have seen, you fill out a form on an ipad highlighting areas you want worked on, preferences, ect. Can pay with CC, and can sign up for free discount card and you get like 10% off. Still only 500 thb for hour thai massage.

So in summary for streets, would try 22 and 55. Thong lo can be a nice change from the prime tourist area between nana and asoke. Just as aside, if you like sticky rice and mango a famous popular place is right as you turn onto 55 from suk, you can't miss it. Last trip I got the mango and 3 type rice assortment almost everyday.[/QUOTE]I also want to include Traveler1234 and Wolven! I appreciate the effort.

I spent three days trying as many massage places as I could fit into the schedule, plus a visit to a couple of the off the beaten path places.

Soi 55 was a bit of a bust, but that was because it was raining that night and I didn't have the patience to look around. The Palm Spa closed at 10:00 and it is a little ways off Soi 55, they must have changed their menu, because it was 750 for an hour Thai massage and there was no iPad menu to select the service you wanted. I may have been in the wrong place.

I did get a 90 min massage at Cefle, and it was very good and legit. The lady that gave me the massage was at least 45 years old and probably weighed the same, it was however a very good massage. Her colleagues were smiling as we went to the room, I am sure they were thinking about this small lady pulling my large frame all over the place.

I found a nice place on Soi 22, and had a very good oil massage, the lady that gave it was attractive, but she said they were not allowed to give "happy endings". She did offer her number and told me that she could visit after hours and give me whatever I wanted from her. I wasn't able to try, but will for certain on my next visit.

I visited the Urban Retreat next to Asoke station and had a great massage, in a classy place. It wasn't cheap by Thai standards, but excellent massage if 100% legit. The good thing was that as I was putting my shoes on to leave, I chatted a spectacular looking leggy Korean lass. I wouldn't normally chat up a lady like that in such a setting, but as it turns out it was good I did. I gave her my number and asked her to dinner. She said she was meeting friends that night, but would call me the next day. She did and we went out to dinner and then shared each other for dessert. She was reluctant to share contacts for future opportunities, so I suspect she may be "encumbered" in Korea, but it was a very nice evening with her in Bangkok. She had legs that went for days and knew her way around a man's body.

I did visit Sing Sing on a Tuesday night, if was DOA. At 1:00 am I was one of about 10 people there and 7 of them were guys. I did have a table next to 3 very cute ladies and we chatted, but at least 2 were married and only there to enjoy the music and be admired by the men in attendance. I tried to grant their wish. I did admire them. On at least this night there were exactly 0 FL's that I could see anyway.

My last night, I thought that I would take a look at the SW's at Nana. I went by the sign about 9:00 pm and the pickings were VERY slim. I was just about to head to Oskars, but decided to walk a few more blocks down the street. Glad I did! Saw exactly what I was looking for, a 30' something well formed lady, dressed like she just left the office. I smiled as we passed, and she said Hello, and kept on walking.

I decided to give pursuit and caught up with her and asked where she was heading. She told me she was going to Gulliver's for a drink. I suggested another locale near my hotel and she readily agreed. A couple of glasses of wine later, we found ourselves in my hotel room. What ensued was one of the most passionate lovemaking sessions I have had in some time. She really knew how to use her mouth to my great pleasure.

We rolled around and tried a fair number of positions. I think when I lined up behind her it hit the sweet spot. I was very close to crossing the finish line when she asked to please not finish inside her. I was perplexed and slowed the pace. She said she wanted me to finish in her mouth. Who was I to complain. I got close, she dropped to her knees (Being a gentleman, I did place a pillow on the floor), removed the cover and expertly used her mouth and just a little bit of hands to release me into her mouth. She didn't quit until I was completely spent. Then smiled sweetly as I watched her swallow. It was magical.

We laughed and joked for a while, but since I had an early departure I suggested she go home on this night. I slid a reasonable gratuity in to her pursue and off she went. I will for sure repeat with this one. She was exactly what I had hoped to find for some time now.

All in all a very nice short stay. I will be back soon, but may try Pattaya on the next visit. I've never been, so a new adventure awaits!

Thanks again to everyone that offered some advice, it is appreciated and is the good part of being in this community!

Sky.

Hi guys,

I'm looking for a nice slow sensual massage that slowly edges you to climax, similar to the Tui Jin in Macau or like this video.

[URL]http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1467103906075.webm[/URL]

Are there such providers in Bangkok?

Another question;.

I'll be heading down to Bangkok next week, would like to find out if these are the main points I should cover for the best "see before you pick" experiences in Bangkok (I'm a guy who likes to get the ability to see and pick, so things like Kapoo massage and Mitu massage don't really work for me as the photos tend to end up much better than the actual person);.

- Soaplands like The Lord Palace, Emanuelle, Poisedon (are there better ones?

- Soi Cowboy for Bacarra & Crazy House.

- Thermae Bar.

- Nana Plaza.

Any others that I should be trying out?