Rio de Janeiro Reports

Here is their site: [URL]http://onixterapias.com/[/URL].
2235 according to this.


[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2543484]Yesterday I went to RB185/2114 - belprazer at 11 h.

There were 3-4 girls, 5's and 6's, including a cute negra. I will be back.

Onix has moved and is no longer in its suite on the same floor. 2104 I think. There is a new therapy place there.

At RB156, I went through the line to cadastrar (register) to go up. They asked for a CPF. I did not have one, so they just gave me a pass. They didn't ask for ID or anything. So it is harmless. I guess they could be taking your picture, but they can be doing that anytime. In fact, at Gavea Shopping you enter the mall and go past a camera. They don't stop you, but they are clearly taking pictures of everyone.

So, I went up to 3320 - Duda's.

There were 2 girls, one a nice ass, but nothing done.

Then I went on to the previously described TDM33.[/QUOTE]

I saw this babe's profile on escort program in Rio. When I arrived to the spot the girl I thought I was hooking up with handed me off to some other chick. Showed her the WhatsApp, explained that she was the girl was girl I was expecting to see, not the other *****. Got that figured out, but the girl I didn't want to see caught an attitude when I told her, "voce muito chata vai embora. " "You are very very boring, go away. " She kept interrupting, offering wine. Etc. All of which I did not care for, because I was balls deep in the other girl. Understand, I'm getting ready to come. At the the end she tried to triple charge me. WTF!

Curious as to anyone else having a similar experience.

Where when?

They're desperate.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2544023]I saw this babe's profile on escort program in Rio. When I arrived to the spot the girl I thought I was hooking up with handed me off to some other chick. Showed her the WhatsApp, explained that she was the girl was girl I was expecting to see, not the other *****. Got that figured out, but the girl I didn't want to see caught an attitude when I told her, "voce muito chata vai embora. " "You are very very boring, go away. " She kept interrupting, offering wine. Etc. All of which I did not care for, because I was balls deep in the other girl. Understand, I'm getting ready to come. At the the end she tried to triple charge me. WTF!

Curious as to anyone else having a similar experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2544264]Where when?

They're desperate.[/QUOTE]Monday 22/03.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2544023]I saw this babe's profile on escort program in Rio. When I arrived to the spot the girl I thought I was hooking up with handed me off to some other chick. Showed her the WhatsApp, explained that she was the girl was girl I was expecting to see, not the other *****. Got that figured out, but the girl I didn't want to see caught an attitude when I told her, "voce muito chata vai embora. " "You are very very boring, go away. " She kept interrupting, offering wine. Etc. All of which I did not care for, because I was balls deep in the other girl. Understand, I'm getting ready to come. At the the end she tried to triple charge me. WTF!

Curious as to anyone else having a similar experience.[/QUOTE]Was the other girl in the room while you were fucking the main girl? How did she offer you wine while you were balls deep in another girl?

Long story short: I am going to stop using this website due ([URL]Photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]) to an incident that happened tonight at 3 am in Copacabana near my place and for all the fucking bait and switches I've experienced the last 2-3 weeks here. I know a lot of guys like using this or had success but I'm over it and pretty much this is what happened.

I messaged a girl at 2 am to come over and she told me she was getting ready, she was cute and she said that was her in the picture. Cute 22 year old in the pic brown hair light skin. I was at MAB's mongering but I got a message saying she was already there which I found odd, really fast. I got there quick via uber and she came out of a janky white car. He was not the girl in the pic and looked way more gangsta with two star tats on her tits, with the bitchiest attitude.

Within the first few sentences of her talking I immediately decided there was no way she was coming over. Just pure dgaf. Then she asked how many men are in my apartment, when she asked that I looked at the car she came in which was filled with people. I was like why do you need to know how many people there are? Trying to jack me? I told her I'm done and good bye, thanks for coming. She said give me money for uber. I gave her 5. She said 100 brl. I said you're nuts I'm going home. She walks over to the Police which are by the way across the street from us. I try to tell them exactly what happened. That we agreed to chill but I changed my mind.

I told the police 100 is way too much, by the way these guys have bullet proof vests and are talking to me with m16's in front of them. I gave her 20 and was about to walk up to my place, but the police stood in my way. I was like fuck. So lucky you guys have guns I would run. They said give her 50 brl. BTW I'm tripping because she lives just around the corner. I give her 50 and they all laugh and shit. I texted her later saying she was a fucking *****. She says the cops will take me or some shit. I don't know. Fuck but I'm over it, I was scared being surrounded with a manipulative crazy ***** and two policia militar with m16's at 3 am.

It's crazy to say this but I feel 100% safer with girls walking the streets near MAB's. I'm sticking to that, prives / boates, termas big and small, and GOOD references. Be careful the city is locked down for a while and the economy is tanking. In the end I tell myself that they needed the money more than me. I lost like $10 bucks. It wasn't the money but the situation of being helpless really freaked me out. Other than that Rio has been amazing lmao!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2543578]One of my buddies had his phone stolen Saturday in the DR and when he called it, the person demanded 1,000 dollars to get it back. [/QUOTE]Could you please expand more about how they got his phone, the demand, and was there any cops involved? And what city or venue.

Myself and hopefully others could learn from the whole story.

Similar experience.

Two girls in the room is always complicated and maybe dangerous.

I had a dupla with Nina deponca and nia nacci in January.

I paid Nia 600 r and Nina 300 r.

Needless to say, Nina was not happy and got violent when paid.

I had a dupla with Nina deponca and a big titted hard bodied younger negra, I guess I will call her. Jada fire (I am running out of callsigns, haha) at hotel serrano in November 2019.

When jada got annoying after the dupla, I asked her to leave the room while I stayed in the room with Nina to get rid of her annoying mouth.

The first, last and most important thing to any woman is to make noise. At the most basic level for safety. If you engage in bondage play, they will always seek to keep their mouth free so they can at least call for help. And frankly, as a man, I wish I could shut up some of these women like the one who shares the balcony with me. She's like a jabba the hut.

Bottom line I would always keep strict control of who is inside the room with me -- and having two female cariocas in the apartment is a recipe for problems under the best of circumstances.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2544023]I saw this babe's profile on escort program in Rio. When I arrived to the spot the girl I thought I was hooking up with handed me off to some other chick. Showed her the WhatsApp, explained that she was the girl was girl I was expecting to see, not the other *****. Got that figured out, but the girl I didn't want to see caught an attitude when I told her, "voce muito chata vai embora. " "You are very very boring, go away. " She kept interrupting, offering wine. Etc. All of which I did not care for, because I was balls deep in the other girl. Understand, I'm getting ready to come. At the the end she tried to triple charge me. WTF!

Curious as to anyone else having a similar experience.[/QUOTE]

How bad is covid for Young cariocas?

I have reports through the brother of Rihanna Noir, 19, that she is still in the hospital after several weeks.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2544348]Was the other girl in the room while you were fucking the main girl? How did she offer you wine while you were balls deep in another girl?[/QUOTE]She kept coming in the room when I was getting busy!

Yea, onix is 2235, went with livia and larissa this week. 130 hh and 180 HR I believe.

Just booked my flight out of here for tomorrow, city is locked tf down like a typical Sunday. Ofcourse mcdonalds and burgerking can stay open and are packed, every mom and pop restaurant is forced to lock down along with most terapias. I'm sure that will help the homeless problem here. / s. Fun while it lasted, going to go monger somewhere else. Ghost town in rio ATM.

Overall great service, prives are cheap for the quick nut and terapias still cheap but usually 100-120 hh for more GFE and good facilities. BBFS and GFE very easy when you repeat with the garotas.

Will do a full write up with prices / garotas for each place when I get the chance to help w the map.

Ate o proximo.

Jw.

Brazil Wide Screens.

I published some "Brazil wide screens" over on the Brazil main thread (see below).

PA can be OK, but the other screens must get a positive.

To go with a girl, you should at least get a positive review on one of the review sites (gpguia or gparena).

You should say you're a user (forista), and even be able to say your nick (name). You can register for the above sites, and play that game. Some ISG members I knew like sunkistday even made up biz cards with their nick.

I don't do this so much as I have been here, but I do recommend it for first timers or first few trippers.

You want to position yourself as a good customer, valuable customer (without revealing your real name, ideally). That old fake ID you had made in Amsterdam so you could drive as a 15 year old in Hamburg? Perfect!

The motel site is all you need for all 6 's' -- shit, shower, shave, supper, sex, sleep.

You need to be able to play on their home turf, ie, she says, I live in Meier. You whip out your smartphone, look up meier and pick motel megara or cartago, down the street from norte shopping, on the route of the 457 bus from Copacabana to zona norte.

I recommend you take the 457 in the day time, and take it back. For like 8 reais, you get a full tour of zona sul to zona norte and back. Wear a vasco the gama or a bombeiro shirt and mask, and have a taser in your pocket, and you are deaf -- don't say a word, just point at your ear like you are deaf. And don't open your mouth to be dumb.

This is a good report in that it shows, as the other recent report on the girl in the room asking for 3 x compensation that the locals are getting desperate.

Head on a swivel gents, and pick good wingmen, and have a agreed upon plan for these situations.

The immediate action of dealing with the cops is to watch, and if possible to record the event in video. They won't allow this, generally, but it is easier and more likely if you have one of those clear cases to carry a smart phone as a necklace.

Also, I have said this before: Transamerica in barra is way, way safer than mabs at Copacabana, but what do I know.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2193-General-Info&p=2543771&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2543771.

Brazil wide screens.

[URL]https://m.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

[URL]Gpguia.net[/URL]

[URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br/terape...rra-da-tijuca/[/URL]

Rj specific.

[URL]Gparena.net[/URL]

Make your list.

Cross reference.

Breed.

[QUOTE=LRonHoyabembe;2544447]Long story short: I am going to stop using this website due ([URL]Photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]) to an incident that happened tonight at 3 am in Copacabana near my place and for all the fucking bait and switches I've experienced the last 2-3 weeks here. I know a lot of guys like using this or had success but I'm over it and pretty much this is what happened.

I messaged a girl at 2 am to come over and she told me she was getting ready, she was cute and she said that was her in the picture. Cute 22 year old in the pic brown hair light skin. I was at MAB's mongering but I got a message saying she was already there which I found odd, really fast. I got there quick via uber and she came out of a janky white car. He was not the girl in the pic and looked way more gangsta with two star tats on her tits, with the bitchiest attitude.

Within the first few sentences of her talking I immediately decided there was no way she was coming over. Just pure dgaf. Then she asked how many men are in my apartment, when she asked that I looked at the car she came in which was filled with people. I was like why do you need to know how many people there are? Trying to jack me? I told her I'm done and good bye, thanks for coming. She said give me money for uber. I gave her 5. She said 100 brl. I said you're nuts I'm going home. She walks over to the Police which are by the way across the street from us. I try to tell them exactly what happened. That we agreed to chill but I changed my mind.

I told the police 100 is way too much, by the way these guys have bullet proof vests and are talking to me with m16's in front of them. I gave her 20 and was about to walk up to my place, but the police stood in my way. I was like fuck. So lucky you guys have guns I would run. They said give her 50 brl. BTW I'm tripping because she lives just around the corner. I give her 50 and they all laugh and shit. I texted her later saying she was a fucking *****. She says the cops will take me or some shit. I don't know. Fuck but I'm over it, I was scared being surrounded with a manipulative crazy ***** and two policia militar with m16's at 3 am.

It's crazy to say this but I feel 100% safer with girls walking the streets near MAB's. I'm sticking to that, prives / boates, termas big and small, and GOOD references. Be careful the city is locked down for a while and the economy is tanking. In the end I tell myself that they needed the money more than me. I lost like $10 bucks. It wasn't the money but the situation of being helpless really freaked me out. Other than that Rio has been amazing lmao![/QUOTE]

Slipped over to 4 x4 two days in a row for their afternoon special before this day 10 lockdown commences.

Day 1.

Arrived at 4 p. Greeted at the front desk by a lady who speaks very good English and was quite welcoming. Dropped all my things in the locker, changed into the threadbare robe and dollar store flip flops. Kept my phone and 200 rs.

Talent was quite nice, a few stunners (8/10) even by my own higher standards.

Had a few beers to get loosened up followed by a gin and tonic.

Spoke with a couple of girls to get the low down on what's what. It's been 5. 5 years since I have been here. Always helpful to know what is on the menu to order, what I can order that is off menu and what is a no-go. This is a conversation that has changing results from lady to lady.

Found out there is a dupla promo for 700 rs including cabine so my focus immediately turned to figuring out which two. First I picked a taller (1. 67) 23 yo fair skinned carioca Gabriela after having a nice chat with her. She's been at 4 x4 for several years. She said she likes to party with see and open to anal, so that checked off both of my boxes. Went back and forth on who else to pick and we settled on her friend Mari-aela who didn't party but open to anal. Both had bolt ONS, flat tummies and nice asses not too big, just like I like it.

Had a good hour in the room. BBBJ from both at once, anal only w the friend, Gabi balked saying she had not prepared to clean ahead of time. Lots of kissing all ways, and two pops. Haven't done that in a while! Girls had a few drinks at my offering (Gabi did not even want liquor, she just ordered a few coco waters).

Probably about 30-40 girls from what I could tell. Maybe about 15 clients. Nice to see some brothers from the States there. Far as I could tell, all of the clientele was extranjeros.

No one except for me and some of the staff were wearing masks. Both girls I was with said they had covid already, maybe 6 months ago.

Total damage was 1000 rs and told her to charge me an extra 100 rs for the staff tips.

Day 2 - final day before 10 day lock down.

Arrived at 3 p. About half the talent than the day prior when I walked in. Good to see a familiar face from the day prior, cheerful brother from Texas sitting with the same big booty girl from the day prior.

Today I was on a mission to take the Rocina Adriana Lima, the Gorota de Ipanema herself, Safira. She is easily 175 cm without heels. I'm much shorter so this is a treat and a conquest. Before speaking to her though, a very nice pretty young thing comes over to me and introduces herself, Mikaela, - says she is a friend of Mari-aela who I sessioned with the day prior. I like her silhouette-small perky boobs, bunda looking fat in the denim shorts she had on, cute feet and a nice flat tummy. We talk for a bit (she likes to party, but doesn't do anal) and then part ways as I had to take a call. I come back and Mikaela is gone but Adriana Lima (aka Safira) is there. We have a quick chat at the bar, maybe 2-3 minutes, she confirms she does anal but doesn't party. No worries. Let's go up. While we are getting things in order with the front desk, Mikaela prances by and I grab and tell her to join us. Safira and Mikaela give each other a dirty smile and right there I know it is on.

Once in the room. Wow I am REALLY digging Safira. Bigger natural boobs than I expected and a face to die for. We are making out for a while and I can't believe I am enjoying this beauty. She did have a see-section scar and some loose tummy skin but other than that, she is perfect.

Mikaela is also VERY frisky, before even trying the party (which BTW is not that great, compared to what I get in Medellíand. It's grainy and yellow-ish, but it does the job). We all have a GREAT one hour session, right up until the phone rings. I am VERY tempted to spend another hour with Mikaela but know when enough is enough and I need to get back and take care of other business.

I was a bit disappointed when I went to settle the bill and was told the damage was 1100. Same English speaking lady. I tipped her well the day before. I KNEW my bill should be less than yesterday (ordered many less drinks this time). Sure enough, they charged me separately for each girl (450 rs) instead of the 700 rs dupla promo. And then they charged me 50 rs cover which is waived if sessioning before 6 p. They know this and it is a bit annoying they tried to pull a fast one but she quickly corrected it when I pointed it out. Total damage was 890 rs ($160 usd).

Got both of their numbers, but likely will not be able to take advantage unfortunately on this trip.

FYI they are on IG at quatroporquatrowhiskeria.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2544626]Total damage was 1000 rs and told her to charge me an extra 100 rs for the staff tips.

Day 2 - final day before 10 day lock down.

I was a bit disappointed when I went to settle the bill and was told the damage was 1100. Same English speaking lady. I tipped her well the day before. I KNEW my bill should be less than yesterday (ordered many less drinks this time). Sure enough, they charged me separately for each girl (450 rs) instead of the 700 rs dupla promo. And then they charged me 50 rs cover which is waived if sessioning before 6 p. They know this and it is a bit annoying they tried to pull a fast one but she quickly corrected it when I pointed it out. Total damage was 890 rs ($160 usd).
[/QUOTE]Guys have been warned about this time and time again. Let this be a prime example. Giving away money in these places gets you nothing except taken advantage of.

Perola Negra hours, lockdown.

Perola Negra opens at 19 h, as of a few days ago.

I had received a message from a girl there saying the hours were 12 h to 23 h.

That was on 4 March.

Another ISG member went over there and informed me of the updated hours.

The Perola Negra girls are coming over here to Transamerica now.

So I haven't been going over as much.

My contacts at the local mall, Barra Garden, tell me that some shop owner was fined 3000 reais for opening up today. The lock down went into effect. This contact is basically staying working because he needs the income for rent, car payments, etc. Not unlike our professional providers in this forum.

Of course, essential businesses -- supermarkets, eyeglass makers, etc -- are staying open.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2543308]One gripe is the Brazilians never have change for 100 or 200. I even got this on the bus ride home today on the 309 from central. I gave the driver 20, and he was like, just wait and I will get you change later, which is not a big deal, but man is every person, store, etc starved of dinheiro.[/QUOTE]It used to drive me crazy that nobody has any change in this country. How can taxi drivers do business? With Uber, now it's a nonissue.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2544451]Could you please expand more about how they got his phone, the demand, and was there any cops involved? And what city or venue.

Myself and hopefully others could learn from the whole story.[/QUOTE]He didn't chica proof his room and he went right to sleep after she walked out. When he woke up and looked for his phone he saw that it was missing, he called the phone and a man told him it was 1 K for the return. He tried to bargain, but in the end he just met the guy (don't know where) and payed the money in pesos.

[QUOTE=LRonHoyabembe;2544447]L I told her I'm done and good bye, thanks for coming. She said give me money for uber. I gave her 5. She said 100 brl. I said you're nuts I'm going home. She walks over to the Police which are by the way across the street from us. I try to tell them exactly what happened. That we agreed to chill but I changed my mind.

I told the police 100 is way too much, by the way these guys have bullet proof vests and are talking to me with m16's in front of them. I gave her 20 and was about to walk up to my place, but the police stood in my way. I was like fuck. So lucky you guys have guns I would run. They said give her 50 brl. BTW I'm tripping because she lives just around the corner. I give her 50 and they all laugh and shit. I texted her later saying she was a fucking *****. She says the cops will take me or some shit. I don't know. Fuck but I'm over it, I was scared being surrounded with a manipulative crazy ***** and two policia militar with m16's at 3 am.

I![/QUOTE]I am glad nothing happened to you except being 10 bucks poorer. I assume you were in front of your place when this happened. When the girl left you and walked across the street, why didn't you just walk into your building and go to your apartment?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2545030]He didn't chica proof his room and he went right to sleep after she walked out. When he woke up and looked for his phone he saw that it was missing, he called the phone and a man told him it was 1 K for the return. He tried to bargain, but in the end he just met the guy (don't know where) and payed the money in pesos.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification. One thousand US, that's a lot of damn pesos.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2545030]He didn't chica proof his room and he went right to sleep after she walked out. When he woke up and looked for his phone he saw that it was missing, he called the phone and a man told him it was 1 K for the return. He tried to bargain, but in the end he just met the guy (don't know where) and payed the money in pesos.[/QUOTE]I'm confused. Are we speaking about a robbery in Brazil? Pesos? Rio de Janeiro thread?

I'm dating a police girl so I can eventually have her arrest girls haha.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2545035]I am glad nothing happened to you except being 10 bucks poorer. I assume you were in front of your place when this happened. When the girl left you and walked across the street, why didn't you just walk into your building and go to your apartment?[/QUOTE]

It was dr.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2545065]I'm confused. Are we speaking about a robbery in Brazil? Pesos? Rio de Janeiro thread?[/QUOTE]

Hence Google photos.

Auto back up.

Protip.

To get iPhone to Brazil.

Have your sender put left by owner And send it DHL.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2545048]Thanks for the clarification. One thousand US, that's a lot of damn pesos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LRonHoyabembe;2544447]Long story short: I am going to stop using this website due ([URL]Photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]) to an incident that happened tonight at 3 am in Copacabana near my place and for all the fucking bait and switches I've experienced the last 2-3 weeks here. She said give me money for uber. I gave her 5. She said 100 brl. I said you're nuts I'm going home. She walks over to the Police which are by the way across the street from us. I try to tell them exactly what happened. That we agreed to chill but I changed my mind.

I told the police 100 is way too much, by the way these guys have bullet proof vests and are talking to me with m16's in front of them. I gave her 20 and was about to walk up to my place, but the police stood in my way. I was like fuck. So lucky you guys have guns I would run. They said give her 50 brl. [/QUOTE]Whenever I use the website I go to them. You should have went up to the police officers and given them 50 reais then told them the story.

[URL]https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=kei20Et5Kuo&feature=share[/URL]

Does anyone remember Kathleen from 4 x 4.

The mulata redhead in the video.

Last I saw her was 2015 at club mix bar.

Nina deponca is over pernoite and I'm fucking her to Nina deponca scenes.

I think I'm near 70-80 girls for the year so far, and I can only remember about 20 of them haha And half are repeats.

Between being able to build rapport pre sex, finding hidden rooms, showering in bathrooms that have roaches on the wall, mongering is much more of a sport than golf.

Besides Uk women, american women could be the worst in the world with golden pussy syndrome. Already have to pull teeth for a date tomorrow in the states with a non pro, because I can't justify pros here In the usa LOL.

This list is the best certified pussy I had in Rio.

I hate kissing and telling but hey I'm long gone now and maybe anyone on the ground can visit them, more business for these soul snatchers.

I visited them as often as my dick would allow while still maintaining the novelty of finding new girls.

1. bruninha. Rb 185 sala 1722.

That type of girl you fuck where it feels like you're married and deeply in love and she wants your kid. Pussy is the absolute bomb. Top 3 fucks in my life.

2. eeshta. Praca olavo bilac 1417.

Tight morena with killer smile.

3. suzy. Sala 2102 av 13 maio.

Mixed girl maybe 5 ft 100 lbs. Fireball.

4. llivia. Onix 2235 rb 156.

Another morena fireball.

5. jaja. Sala 405 rb 185.

Tight tight morena.

Oh, these are all spinners by the way Barely any fat on them.

I don't buy the whole "thicc" girls fad.

Spinners over everyone ha!

Addendum; best ass jasmin at 3320 rb 156. Just naturally unbelievable for a branca MILF. Sexy face.

Will be back after lockdown, brazilian morena buceta is the best in the world.

Outstanding!

I will be keeping them warm.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2545107]I think I'm near 70-80 girls for the year so far, and I can only remember about 20 of them haha And half are repeats.

Between being able to build rapport pre sex, finding hidden rooms, showering in bathrooms that have roaches on the wall, mongering is much more of a sport than golf.

Besides Uk women, american women could be the worst in the world with golden pussy syndrome. Already have to pull teeth for a date tomorrow in the states with a non pro, because I can't justify pros here In the usa LOL.

This list is the best certified pussy I had in Rio.

I hate kissing and telling but hey I'm long gone now and maybe anyone on the ground can visit them, more business for these soul snatchers.

I visited them as often as my dick would allow while still maintaining the novelty of finding new girls.

1. bruninha. Rb 185 sala 1722.

That type of girl you fuck where it feels like you're married and deeply in love and she wants your kid. Pussy is the absolute bomb. Top 3 fucks in my life.

2. eeshta. Praca olavo bilac 1417..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2545107]I think I'm near 70-80 girls for the year so far, and I can only remember about 20 of them haha And half are repeats.

Between being able to build rapport pre sex, finding hidden rooms, showering in bathrooms that have roaches on the wall, mongering is much more of a sport than golf.

Besides Uk women, american women could be the worst in the world with golden pussy syndrome. Already have to pull teeth for a date tomorrow in the states with a non pro, because I can't justify pros here In the usa LOL.

This list is the best certified pussy I had in Rio.

[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for sharing your recommendations and the girls contact info. Much appreciated!

I paid Nina 300 pernoite mais 10 for bus.

I'm making mocqueca at her place with her father today.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2545097][URL]https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=kei20Et5Kuo&feature=share[/URL]

Does anyone remember Kathleen from 4 x 4.

The mulata redhead in the video.

Last I saw her was 2015 at club mix bar.

Nina deponca is over pernoite and I'm fucking her to Nina deponca scenes.[/QUOTE]

I banged Nina pernoite 300 r.

Thanks JohnnyWalker55. I have a Rio newbie question. Can someone explain what the "Rb" means? The other addresses I manage to locate on the map. And the numbers. These are the number of the room, correct?

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2545107]

4. llivia. Onix 2235 rb 156.

Another morena fireball.

5. jaja. Sala 405 rb 185.

Tight tight morena.

[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2545863]Thanks JohnnyWalker55. I have a Rio newbie question. Can someone explain what the "Rb" means? The other addresses I manage to locate on the map. And the numbers. These are the number of the room, correct?

.[/QUOTE]Correct. And RB is Avenida Rio Branco -- the cradle of Centro fun.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2545866]Correct. And RB is Avenida Rio Branco -- the cradle of Centro fun.[/QUOTE]A "must" for every tourist LOL Thanks, will keep that in mind. My plans are to be there after 3 weeks, but with these constant flight cancellations and covid restrictions, you never know.

Can you please explain about the sala numbers? I mean let's say I'm at Avenida Rio Branco 185. And I'm looking for Bruninha at sala 1722 or the other girl at sala 405. Maybe this is a big building with a lot of rooms with numbers on it? Or at least that is how I imagine it with all the sala numbers.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2545882]Can you please explain about the sala numbers? I mean let's say I'm at Avenida Rio Branco 185. And I'm looking for Bruninha at sala 1722 or the other girl at sala 405. Maybe this is a big building with a lot of rooms with numbers on it? Or at least that is how I imagine it with all the sala numbers.[/QUOTE]Room or suite or office or apartment. Floor 17 suite 22 or floor 4 suite 5. Just like any building in most places.

Is Rio de Janeiro open for Prostitution business?

[QUOTE=TonyMontanaaO7;2545948]Is Rio de Janeiro open for Prostitution business?[/QUOTE]A good question. I'm guessing also that in the event of closures of Prives and Termas much of the action slides over to online escorts. Girls got to earn. Mongers on the ground care to weigh in?

Headed down in May- just curious what Rio girls think of ample facial hair, beards? Asian girls prefer their men to look like teenage Korean boys with smooth dolphin skin hairless bodies, so I trim the beard as a gesture of good will. Haven't heard any intel on this issue if anyone would like to enlighten me.

Thanks for the info. Well, let's hope there will be no nasty surprises like new flight cancelations and the Rio government will not prolong the current restrictions about visiting the beach, bars and tourist attractions.

Yes.

This is a 18 yo from treze de maio.

[QUOTE=TonyMontanaaO7;2545948]Is Rio de Janeiro open for Prostitution business?[/QUOTE]

I woke up early, hit the gym at Transamerica before the pool opens.

The association bus is not working, so I took the city bus downtown.

I personally like riding the local buses. The cost of a uber to centro is a 15 minute session (50 reais), and like Johnny Walker, I like doing a pro forma day with two (2) session of 60 reais each.

I located a terapatia that I liked from one of the sites, as Exec Talent, has recommended, and I made an appointment.

This is recommended in this feriado / lockdown (smart to sell it as 'vacation' ie feriado). Very low percentage of people on the streets compared to normal.

But massage is essential, and I banged the 18 yo negra I posted other pictures of.

I also checked out some of the other normal suspect prives in TDM33, ie, 703, and I found no one there. So, calling ahead / texting ahead is required in these strange times.

I did the hour session and it was great. 18 year olds are only 18 once, and even though it was all covered (I can't tell too much of a difference), it was solid, and 44 minutes of sex for two pops, so I "got the poison out" as a episode of Californication has it.

I got a liter of tea at MegaMatte as I went over to Hotel Lips, which I use as a link up point for girls as it is an easy walk to the pick up point for the association bus. Av Presidente Wilson 147. Professionals study logistics. Girls have to dress well enough to get on the bus, which again saves a 50 r uber. Girls hate taking the bus, but fuck them.

So, I reconned back over to RB156, and up to Onix 2235. No one at home. I had to get a picture taken this time, and they viewed my ID and noted the name.

I went back foot mobile to Metro Uruguiana, and bought some batteries at the outdoor market. I was after some chips (sim cards), but none were to be had.

I did pop into Club 13, and there was good selection of girls -- mainly 4's to 5's. Club 13 is on the traversa PRaca Olavio Bilac.

Club 26 was closed.

Club 116 (the old Secret Terma) was closed.

I walked over to Central and picked up some sim chips.

I took the 309 back to barra and Hotel Transamerica / condo Mediterraneo.

Girls like younger men, and that means shave the beard off.

This is a general truth bestowed upon me by a spiritual adviser, and it is true from Tijuana to Porto Allegre.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2545985]Headed down in May- just curious what Rio girls think of ample facial hair, beards? Asian girls prefer their men to look like teenage Korean boys with smooth dolphin skin hairless bodies, so I trim the beard as a gesture of good will. Haven't heard any intel on this issue if anyone would like to enlighten me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2545985]Headed down in May- just curious what Rio girls think of ample facial hair, beards? Asian girls prefer their men to look like teenage Korean boys with smooth dolphin skin hairless bodies, so I trim the beard as a gesture of good will. Haven't heard any intel on this issue if anyone would like to enlighten me.[/QUOTE]In over 20 years of going to Brazil, I could count on 1 hand the number of times I saw Brazilians with a beard. However, something happened like 5-6 years ago. (I don't know if a famous athlete, singer or actor is responsible) but now you will see men all over Rio rocking goatees, moustaches and beards.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2546142]In over 20 years of going to Brazil, I could count on 1 hand the number of times I saw Brazilians with a beard. However, something happened like 5-6 years ago. (I don't know if a famous athlete, singer or actor is responsible) but now you will see men all over Rio rocking goatees, moustaches and beards.[/QUOTE]The vintage styles are in effect now all over the world. Any new barber shops that you go to these days in damn near any country are themed as such as well.

When you say closed do mean permanently? Or just not open the time you were there?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2546091]

Club 26 was closed.

Club 116 (the old Secret Terma) was closed.

[/QUOTE]

Just not open when I was there.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2546330]When you say closed do mean permanently? Or just not open the time you were there?[/QUOTE]

Better pic.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2546049]Yes.

This is a 18 yo from treze de maio.[/QUOTE]

Can someone that is in Rio right now give real update about the situation with the restrictions? I read that Decreto 48.644 says basically all the bars, restaurants and typical places visited by the tourists are closed till 5 April. I was wondering are they really follows these restrictions or still there are places where you can drink a beer or two? And no going to the beach? Really?

As I wrote earlier this week, you have to call ahead to make appointments at the prives, and walking in during business hours and asking for the apresentacao did not work even at some of the bigger prives like onix at rb156/2235 (thanks to johnny walker again, I will be sampling your recommendation ASAP; BTW, where did you stay? I seems in centro or copa in order to get the afternoon or evening dates with your girls).

The bars, restaurants, etc are mostly closed, but some beaches like at the Sheraton are open, and pools, such as at my hotel Transamerica are open.

More broadly, as the [URL]economist.com[/URL] noted 10 months ago, many workers who rely on in person contact, such as our providers, can't afford to not work, and as I noted from a news item, 70% of favelitas don't have money for food, and government assistance cut off in January. All of which means that there is a huge and slow motion exploding cash crunch happening in Brazil.

It is war, economic war, like in 2011 - 2014, when 500,000 plus would riot over 5 centavos bus fare increases, but on steroids or more precisely, vaccines, because this is a country of have nots in a world where many haves in the rich world are envied, at the risk of lives, including 20 year olds now.

So, expect it to get violent. Nasty. Brutish. Short.

In other words, for those of us who like chaos, fun.

Hunting of pussy and bunda will be good.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2546571]Can someone that is in Rio right now give real update about the situation with the restrictions? I read that Decreto 48.644 says basically all the bars, restaurants and typical places visited by the tourists are closed till 5 April. I was wondering are they really follows these restrictions or still there are places where you can drink a beer or two? And no going to the beach? Really?[/QUOTE]

Headed to Rio this summer if things loosen up. I favor Cartagena over every mongering place I have been so far but of course Rio has to be tried.

Could some advise me what area is best to stay in for finding working girls.

I always stay in an Airbnb and have never had trouble taking women to my room. Is it the same there.

Where is the best place to see a selection. In Cartagena the Clock Tower plaza offered 50 to a 100 girls last January, even with the Covid thing.

About 300 k cop or 80 dollars gets a fine woman.

Every woman I met was willing to do anal. Is that a problem in Rio?

Any advice would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2546655]Headed to Rio this summer if things loosen up. I favor Cartagena over every mongering place I have been so far but of course Rio has to be tried.

Could some advise me what area is best to stay in for finding working girls.

I always stay in an Airbnb and have never had trouble taking women to my room. Is it the same there.

Where is the best place to see a selection. In Cartagena the Clock Tower plaza offered 50 to a 100 girls last January, even with the Covid thing.

About 300 k cop or 80 dollars gets a fine woman.

Every woman I met was willing to do anal. Is that a problem in Rio?

Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Here we go again! RTFF!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2546599] you have to call ahead to make appointments at the prives, and walking in during business hours and asking for the apresentacao did not work even at some of the bigger prives like onix at rb156/2235

<snip> some beaches like at the Sheraton are open, and pools, such as at my hotel Transamerica are open. [/QUOTE]Good info Vagabundo. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2546599] . . . It is war, economic war, like in 2011 - 2014, when 500,000 plus would riot over 5 centavos bus fare increases, but on steroids or more precisely, vaccines, because this is a country of have nots in a world where many haves in the rich world are envied, at the risk of lives, including 20 year olds now.

So, expect it to get violent. Nasty. Brutish. Short.

In other words, for those of us who like chaos, fun.

Hunting of pussy and bunda will be good.[/QUOTE]I don't endorse this scenario or outcome for Brazilians and think they'll resolve their problems, short of civil war.

But dude, be careful what you wish for.

Where do you get 300 Cop for 80 bucks. ?

[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2546655]Headed to Rio this summer if things loosen up. I favor Cartagena over every mongering place I have been so far but of course Rio has to be tried.

Could some advise me what area is best to stay in for finding working girls.

I always stay in an Airbnb and have never had trouble taking women to my room. Is it the same there.

Where is the best place to see a selection. In Cartagena the Clock Tower plaza offered 50 to a 100 girls last January, even with the Covid thing.

About 300 k cop or 80 dollars gets a fine woman.

Every woman I met was willing to do anal. Is that a problem in Rio?

Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2546824]Where do you get 300 Cop for 80 bucks. ?[/QUOTE]It says 300K (300,000).

Pray for war.

Last time I was in Pattaya I was fresh off an embassy relief in Cambodia.


[QUOTE=Spidy;2546816]I don't endorse this scenario or outcome for Brazilians and think they'll resolve their problems, short of civil war.

But dude, be careful what you wish for.[/QUOTE]

Nina deponca is over.

She's a former prive girl.

I am paying her 300.

I hate her substance dependence. Always asking for weed, nicotine, etc. I've decided to stop drinking alcohol.

She looks like a Diana ross / Nina deponca.

BBFSCIP.

All is well in Rio de Janeiro. Sex is good for covid. There's a good article about how it is more cost effective to buy nursing in Thailand for Swiss elderly on [URL]economist.com[/URL].

You may be safe or "safe" in the rich world, but some woman is making your life miserable. The great mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2546760]Here we go again! RTFF![/QUOTE]What do you mean?

I have given advise to many guys heading to places I have visited.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2546874]Nina deponca is over.

She's a former prive girl.

I am paying her 300.

I hate her substance dependence. Always asking for weed, nicotine, etc. I've decided to stop drinking alcohol.

She looks like a Diana ross / Nina deponca.

BBFSCIP.

All is well in Rio de Janeiro. Sex is good for covid. There's a good article about how it is more cost effective to buy nursing in Thailand for Swiss elderly on [URL]economist.com[/URL].

You may be safe or "safe" in the rich world, but some woman is making your life miserable. The great mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.[/QUOTE]What a classic porn star throwback!

[URL]https://theclassicporn.com/actors/2923/nina-deponca/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0220116/bio[/URL]

I went over to Copa to pick up ISG member Bonhead for a centro run.

I texted Onix to set up a session, but I received this in response.

Because of the decree, unfortunately we are not working. Prédio the building is closed, so we only returned on the 9th, Friday, q the city announced the release of everything.

But wait for us.

Por causa do decreto, infelizmente andão estamos funcionando. o prédio esta fechado, aí só voltamos DIA 9, sexta feira mesmo, q a prefeitura anunciou a liberação de tudo.

Mas nos aguarde rs.

So, I headed back to the pool bar at Transamerica where the new hookers come in weekly, and my regulars are competing to get on my dick for the night.

Memento Mori, Carpe Diem.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2547012]What a classic porn star throwback!

[URL]https://theclassicporn.com/actors/2923/nina-deponca/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0220116/bio[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2545107]I visited them as often as my dick would allow while still maintaining the novelty of finding new girls.

1. bruninha. Rb 185 sala 1722.

That type of girl you fuck where it feels like you're married and deeply in love and she wants your kid. Pussy is the absolute bomb. Top 3 fucks in my life.

2. eeshta. Praca olavo bilac 1417.

Tight morena with killer smile.

3. suzy. Sala 2102 av 13 maio.

Mixed girl maybe 5 ft 100 lbs. Fireball.

4. llivia. Onix 2235 rb 156..[/QUOTE]Sorry guy this is a noobie question. I am planning to go very soon and love to know how the hobbying is there.

Are these like massage parlor you just walk in? And is there a flat rate for all location is so what is it?

Thanks guys.

Rio. The pussy of ports. The capital of Brazil.

Well Nina Deponca took a pass tonight. I am holding off on my normal pernoite x2 routine with Monique.

Rio is shaped like a big pussy. The topographical splendor that is Rio is on display with Sugar Loaf and Christo Redentor jutting out like clits on a greluda (Porto for big clit), and the rodoviaria as the de facto g-spot inside the inner pussy, which is the de facto nerve network from the hidden hot spot of the pussy that is rio out to all the other points, as the buses carry the persons like electrical impulses on the nerve dentrils that are the bus routes. Rodiviaria is next to the oil service port center, and the container port center, and those are the points where money flows out like blood, following the nerve impulses of persons -- maybe not the highest tier persons, but the de facto middle managers and blue collar workers of Brazil, who take buses from Rodoviaria Rio, Novo Rio, out on the roads of Brazil to the other cities of Brazil through hourly routes to SP for 25% of the cost of a flight, and to every other city in Brazil. Christo Redentor and Sugar Loaf are the clit sitting out there on the front of Rio the pussy, and inside Rodoviaria is the hidden g-spot, and it is also on the dark side -- IE, the area North of Av Presidente Vargas, a president worthy of study which one can do by watching the movie on Netflix, which I had done once with a fine ass Italian teen on a legit date down in Porto Allegre 5 years ago. Getulio -- the name of the movie about President Getulio Vargas -- was President here in Rio, which is the de facto capital of Brazil.

The possible next presidential candidate fucks a girl across the street from me in Barra, and the kids of the current president control militias out in networks that dine at Olegario Maciel, at Posto 1, where the Grupo Maritimo has a post, their other being in Botafogo. Rio de Janeiro is a microcosm of all Brazil. In the south and west of Rio -- in Barra -- there are gauchos who run the grill at the best condo in Barra (the 7 buildings across the street from Transamerica). In the North and East of Rio is Niteroi and the spiritual and athletic concentratioins of Afro-Brazilian culture, like their distinctive religious institutions, and capoiera clubs, their best negra samba dancers. Rio has the best -- the best hookers, and all that come with it -- of all of Brazil; the best loira branca 18 year old hooker talent from SP comes to Transamerica, the freak long legged blondes like Yasmin on barravipsrio, and before her the other 18 year old, who only stayed up on that site for a day or two at a time.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2547012]What a classic porn star throwback!

[URL]https://theclassicporn.com/actors/2923/nina-deponca/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0220116/bio[/URL][/QUOTE]Looked her up then too; girls take all kinds of working names, here hopefully the girl were not an actress.

[QUOTE=LittleShrimp;2547167]Sorry guy this is a noobie question. I am planning to go very soon and love to know how the hobbying is there.

Are these like massage parlor you just walk in? And is there a flat rate for all location is so what is it?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]You can thank me in advance.

Rio has some of the best Asian massage parlors in the world, but you would never know it unless you know where to look.

Don't tell any of the regulars here, because in all the pages of this forum, I have never seen them mentioned. It will be our little secret.

When you very soon arrive in Rio go immediately to Copacabana. It is pronounced by the locals Coco-Cabana. If at first you are not understood, speak more loudly.

What you are looking for are the juice bars. You will recognize them because there is fruit everywhere. Bananas, pineapples, mangoes. Well, you know, fruit. They make juice out of them.

You can take two approaches. One, you can order a juice and ask the guy (it is always a guy) making it for you, for a double. He will act like he has no idea what you are talking about. He is testing you.

Take out one of those crisp 100 dollar bills you got at the bank before you left (you do know to bring crisp 100's, right) and hand it to him. At this point he should be all smiles. That is how you know you are now on the inside.

Little known, and again, don't discuss this with anyone else here, is that the juice bars have rooms underground. About the second way. The cashiers, if one is around, are always women. They will be the ones giving you the massage. Again, the answer is your best friend, the crisp 100 dollar bill. Hand her one. She also should give you a big smile. You are now officially in the big leagues.

There you go. You are on your way to heaven and you didn't have to bother reading this silly forum. Now, who's your buddy, who's your pal?

[QUOTE=LittleShrimp;2547167]Sorry guy this is a noobie question. I am planning to go very soon and love to know how the hobbying is there.

Are these like massage parlor you just walk in? And is there a flat rate for all location is so what is it?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]But I'm too nice for that. So I'll just kindly recommend you read the last 30-40 pages of this forum, get a better understanding of the city you're planning on visiting, and come back if you still have (more specific) questions.

This is the process. Not here I am, tell me everything.

Good luck to you!

Nina Deponca is my name for her because she is a mulata who resembles Nina D. She pumps my nads in the very important respect that we like the same porn, namely heavy sado masochism. She's a natural dominant personality, but she is submissive for me. I've tied her up. As the bard wrote, mine mistress eyes are nothing like the sun; she is not the youngest, or most beautiful, but she has some great features like her tits, big clit, and a talented throat. We keep talking about doing more threesomes where I have her dominate a branca or ruiva (redhead), and use her fingers, fists, and a strapon to widen the unfortunate lass. We should do that before the moment passes. Like all the working girls, she is one of the usual suspects, IE, the long list of hookers who had the access and motive to take a long list of missing items, like broken burner cell phones, a bottle of adderall, a pocket knife, even a bandana. These stupid bitches hookers cariocas complain that it is just a cheap item, yes, but I bought that thing at the beach, and it is thus my property, and you took it without asking. I mean, between fucking, these cocka-roaches as Tony Montana would say scurry around the room getting their hands into everything, like little rodent scavengers. So, you need a good internal security plan. These experiences have me looking at these videos.

[URL]https://youtu.be/M0GGHIjShh4[/URL]

[QUOTE=Questner;2547203]Looked her up then too; girls take all kinds of working names, here hopefully the girl were not an actress.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I am in Rio now. I arrived here yesterday (Good Friday) morning.

The good news first: 1) The trip down here was a breeze. Getting the Covid 19 RPT test results was easy once I found a small lab that performed the test in house, I had my results in 8 hours. The MIA airport security was fast too since there were so few travelers on a Thursday night. My American Airlines flight was 3/4 empty. I had booked an extra leg room seat and my row was empty, so I had an entire row of 4 seats to recline on. During the dinner service I washed down an Ambien sleeping pill with two small complimentary bottles of vodka and bloody Mary mix and fell asleep while watching some terrible action film.

The next thing I knew the plane was an hour out of RJ. Brazilian Immigration and Customs was fast too, except they questioned every passenger in the "nothing to declare line" and a few lucky passengers had their bags scanned. Not me. So, in and out of the RJ airport in 15 minutes. My hotel had my room ready. They even upgraded me to a room with a view overlooking Copacabana Beach. Since most restaurants are closed by gov't order, I had lunch by the pool at my hotel. The grilled Octopus was great. That's most of the good stuff for day 1.

Oh yeah, Copacabana Beach was not empty. I walked from the Fairmont to the Marriott or about halfway. There were a lot of people out walking, running, and in the ocean. Numbers most likely would have been 10 to 20 times larger if not for the edict, but a lot of people were out and refused to stay at home. I saw a fair number of very nice-looking girls on the beach – pretty face, natural everything, and thin all over. Ha Ha. I was hungry.

The bad news: most everything is closed down. I whatsapped a few Prive's (oily massage parlors to guys who don't want to RTFF) that I thought had some pretty good-looking girls on their web sites. One responded right away, the other two this morning. All three said they were closed, and that they would contact me when they reopened. So maybe on Monday April 5, but I have now heard from several reliable sources in Rio that the closure edict has been extended until the 9th. Damn! I was really looking forward to visiting the top 4 Termas while I was in town. But, Oh Well. All you can do is "Roll with it. " I am still glad I am here.

So, the Good Friday situation was not good. I could have persevered, but I just ran out of steam late Friday afternoon and did not feel like initiating any calls to the escort girls. I had a quiet dinner by the pool in my 5-star hotel overlooking the beach. It was very romantic. Ha Ha. 2 glasses of red wine and a grilled fish was all I needed. I ended my 1st night in Rio watching Netflix, "O Mecanismo," on my laptop computer. It is a movie about the total corruption between the Brazilian government and big business. How apropos! I fell asleep around 10 pm and slept straight through to 8 am.

First day comparisons, although not a fair comparison in any way, here is my take: Copacabana is a much nicer beach than Pattaya beach, but it is much easier to get laid and a lot more fun in Pattaya at the present moment. This is obviously not a fair comparison because nobody can get into Thailand without doing the 14-day quarantine. The Brazilian girls I have seen so on the beach and in my hotel look very good. I repeat, VERY GOOD! So, I remain upbeat and am looking forward to tomorrow.

Saturday – I woke after a real sound sleep. It was a sunny bright new day. After breakfast and another walk up and down Copacabana Beach, I was ready to move forward with my fallback, fallback strategy which is to contact the call girls directly. So, I started with the Barra VIP website first because that site seemed to have the most girls to my liking, and it seems to be fairly reliable escort site.

From my pre-travel planning I found 3 girls there that satisfied my preference type: pretty face, natural breasts, natural butt, and thin all over. So, I Whatsapped the first VIP girl I thought the most attractive and was about to send out two more messages to the other 2 girls, but then numero uno texted back. That was fast and we had a very friendly, light, exchange, not too different than I would have had with a Thai girl on Thai Friendly. So, long story short, she is coming over later tonight around 6 pm and I expect we are going to have a good time. But we will see what happens. As the song goes: "Life is a carnival, two bits a shot. ".

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2547285]So, you need a good internal security plan. These experiences have me looking at these videos.

[URL]https://youtu.be/M0GGHIjShh4[/URL][/QUOTE]Nah, won't work.

Sounds cool, but this security plan would only be good for wannabe spies, LOL. For our goals and purposes, it's useless. I mean you can refuse room service, but, I don't know, I like a clean room and fresh linens and towels changed every day. So if you know that the maid will be in the room anyway, what's the point of all the tricks?

But even if you do decline room service, you do bring girls. If you're inside with a girl, you will at one point or another leave her along in the room. Just because your laptop is slightly misplaced it doesn't mean they've stolen something. Girls are curious. They can (and will) go through your things. Even so-called "good girls" in your rich country do that all the time, LOL.

And if she steals some cheap trinkets, that's the cost of doing business, IMHO. In Thailand they steal fucking toothpaste. I don't know what's wrong with them, but they can't say no to toothpaste. They also love fancy shaving razors in my experience. For their boyfriends to look sharp.

I put everything even mildly valuable into the safe. However, hotels still have a master key to open the safe in case of emergency. And there are plenty of accounts of theft from a room safe on travel forums. They might not steal all your money because you will raise the stink, but they can lift a few bills so you would think you over-counted or something. For that particular purpose, the app in the video might be useful I think 'cause you'll know for sure if someone's been messing with your safe.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2547418]Yes, I am in Rio now. I arrived here yesterday (Good Friday) morning.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. Please keep us posted!

Yeah, I agree.

It's the wrong video for chica proofing a room.

I am looking at moving to another condo in this area, or a house. I'm getting a little bit sick of the constant maintenance headaches here in this condo.

I like this one for packing my bag.

[URL]https://youtu.be/ToonXShDAFk[/URL]

Funny you should mention money, I seem to have come up a few hundred short in my safe today.

Security in Brazil is a tough thing.

The people I can trust are through some real organizations which I won't mention here, and which I need to rely upon more here.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2547518]Nah, won't work.

Sounds cool, but this security plan would only be good for wannabe spies, LOL. For our goals and purposes, it's useless. I mean you can refuse room service, but, I don't know, I like a clean room and fresh linens and towels changed every day. So if you know that the maid will be in the room anyway, what's the point of all the tricks?

But even if you do decline room service, you do bring girls. If you're inside with a girl, you will at one point or another leave her along in the room. Just because your laptop is slightly misplaced it doesn't mean they've stolen something. Girls are curious. They can (and will) go through your things. Even so-called "good girls" in your rich country do that all the time, LOL.

And if she steals some cheap trinkets, that's the cost of doing business, IMHO. In Thailand they steal fucking toothpaste. I don't know what's wrong with them, but they can't say no to toothpaste. They also love fancy shaving razors in my experience. For their boyfriends to look sharp.[/QUOTE]

Good Friday / Easter, and actually all of Holy Week is tough in any Christian / Catholic country. That combined with the Covid lockdowns makes this a really tough time if you don't already have contacts. For guys that have been there many times and have a base of contacts, it's no problem. But I'd never suggest a first-timer to visit during Holy Week.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2547418]Yes, I am in Rio now. I arrived here yesterday (Good Friday) morning.

The good news first: 1) The trip down here was a breeze. Getting the Covid 19 RPT test results was easy once I found a small lab that performed the test in house, I had my results in 8 hours. The MIA airport security was fast too since there were so few travelers on a Thursday night. My American Airlines flight was 3/4 empty. I had booked an extra leg room seat and my row was empty, so I had an entire row of 4 seats to recline on. During the dinner service I washed down an Ambien sleeping pill with two small complimentary bottles of vodka and bloody Mary mix and fell asleep while watching some terrible action film.

The next thing I knew the plane was an hour out of RJ. Brazilian Immigration and Customs was fast too, except they questioned every passenger in the "nothing to declare line" and a few lucky passengers had their bags scanned. Not me. So, in and out of the RJ airport in 15 minutes. My hotel had my room ready. They even upgraded me to a room with a view overlooking Copacabana Beach. Since most restaurants are closed by gov't order, I had lunch by the pool at my hotel. The grilled Octopus was great. That's most of the good stuff for day 1.

Oh yeah, Copacabana Beach was not empty. I walked from the Fairmont to the Marriott or about halfway. There were a lot of people out walking, running, and in the ocean. Numbers most likely would have been 10 to 20 times larger if not for the edict, but a lot of people were out and refused to stay at home. I saw a fair number of very nice-looking girls on the beach pretty face, natural everything, and thin all over. Ha Ha. I was hungry.

The bad news: most everything is closed down. I whatsapped a few Prive's (oily massage parlors to guys who don't want to RTFF) that I thought had some pretty good-looking girls on their web sites. One responded right away, the other two this morning. All three said they were closed, and that they would contact me when they reopened. So maybe on Monday April 5, but I have now heard from several reliable sources in Rio that the closure edict has been extended until the 9th. Damn! I was really looking forward to visiting the top 4 Termas while I was in town. But, Oh Well. All you can do is "Roll with it. " I am still glad I am here.

So, the Good Friday situation was not good. I could have persevered, but I just ran out of steam late Friday afternoon and did not feel like initiating any calls to the escort girls. I had a quiet dinner by the pool in my 5-star hotel overlooking the beach. It was very romantic. Ha Ha. 2 glasses of red wine and a grilled fish was all I needed. I ended my 1st night in Rio watching Netflix, "O Mecanismo," on my laptop computer. It is a movie about the total corruption between the Brazilian government and big business. How apropos! I fell asleep around 10 pm and slept straight through to 8 am.

First day comparisons, although not a fair comparison in any way, here is my take: Copacabana is a much nicer beach than Pattaya beach, but it is much easier to get laid and a lot more fun in Pattaya at the present moment. This is obviously not a fair comparison because nobody can get into Thailand without doing the 14-day quarantine. The Brazilian girls I have seen so on the beach and in my hotel look very good. I repeat, VERY GOOD! So, I remain upbeat and am looking forward to tomorrow.

Saturday I woke after a real sound sleep. It was a sunny bright new day. After breakfast and another walk up and down Copacabana Beach, I was ready to move forward with my fallback, fallback strategy which is to contact the call girls directly. So, I started with the Barra VIP website first because that site seemed to have the most girls to my liking, and it seems to be fairly reliable escort site.

From my pre-travel planning I found 3 girls there that satisfied my preference type: pretty face, natural breasts, natural butt, and thin all over. So, I Whatsapped the first VIP girl I thought the most attractive and was about to send out two more messages to the other 2 girls, but then numero uno texted back. That was fast and we had a very friendly, light, exchange, not too different than I would have had with a Thai girl on Thai Friendly. So, long story short, she is coming over later tonight around 6 pm and I expect we are going to have a good time. But we will see what happens. As the song goes: "Life is a carnival, two bits a shot. ".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;2547552]Good Friday / Easter, and actually all of Holy Week is tough in any Christian / Catholic country. That combined with the Covid lockdowns makes this a really tough time if you don't already have contacts. For guys that have been there many times and have a base of contacts, it's no problem. But I'd never suggest a first-timer to visit during Holy Week.[/QUOTE]+10! A basic mistake that many first timers to Latin America make.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2547418]Yes, I am in Rio now. I arrived here yesterday (Good Friday) morning.

The good news first: 1) The trip down here was a breeze. Getting the Covid 19 RPT test results was easy once I found a small lab that performed the test in house, I had my results in 8 hours. The MIA airport security was fast too since there were so few travelers on a Thursday night.
[/QUOTE]Nice report, I'm curious who checked your test results and was it required to enter Brazil? Did they check it for you to get on the plane or did they check it to enter Brazil? Also please report how the Fairmont handles your guest.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2547559]Nice report, I'm curious who checked your test results and was it required to enter Brazil? Did they check it for you to get on the plane or did they check it to enter Brazil? Also please report how the Fairmont handles your guest.[/QUOTE]Are you give it a date Bob?

Thanks for the report! FWIW, the quarantine period for Pattaya has been cut to 7 days for vaccinated travelers. Still pretty unpleasant, but moving in the right direction at least. And I definitely agree with you that Copacabana beach is way, way nicer than Pattaya beach)).

"The spokesperson for the Prime Minister's office, Anucha Burapachaisri said that in the first phase, which started on April 1, the quarantine period would be cut to seven days in a hotel for inoculated foreign tourists with a vaccine certificate, travelling to five pilot provinces including Phuket, Krabi, Phang-nga, Chiang Mai and Pattaya in Chonburi province. ".

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2547418]Yes, I am in Rio now. I arrived here yesterday (Good Friday) morning.

...

First day comparisons, although not a fair comparison in any way, here is my take: Copacabana is a much nicer beach than Pattaya beach, but it is much easier to get laid and a lot more fun in Pattaya at the present moment. This is obviously not a fair comparison because nobody can get into Thailand without doing the 14-day quarantine. The Brazilian girls I have seen so on the beach and in my hotel look very good. I repeat, VERY GOOD! So, I remain upbeat and am looking forward to tomorrow.

...

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On this holy day I commend to our congregation to consider a cover of being an priest or rabbi haha.

Only a little better than medicines sans frontiers haha.

Or as a porn lawyer haha (which I have been, have some sympathy, have some taste).

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2547617]Thanks for the report! FWIW, the quarantine period for Pattaya has been cut to 7 days for vaccinated travelers. Still pretty unpleasant, but moving in the right direction at least. And I definitely agree with you that Copacabana beach is way, way nicer than Pattaya beach)).

"The spokesperson for the Prime Minister's office, Anucha Burapachaisri said that in the first phase, which started on April 1, the quarantine period would be cut to seven days in a hotel for inoculated foreign tourists with a vaccine certificate, travelling to five pilot provinces including Phuket, Krabi, Phang-nga, Chiang Mai and Pattaya in Chonburi province..[/QUOTE]

I also chose the name Nina DePonca for her because she's not a new girl, but, like Nina Deponca, I would still fuck her if she came up to me at a porn convention in Vegas and offered me her holes. As the Netflix series has it, there is "life after porn" and as the 2014 Economist on the subject of legalizing prostitution noted, being a hooker is like being a pro futbol player.

Moreover, she has proven herself to be a real friend often, as in these times of endemic. As the boss wrote about, it is a nice thing when you are invited into a woman's secret garden, however humble it is.

She'll let you in her house.

If you come knockin' late at night.

She'll let you in her mouth.

If the words you say are right.

If you pay the price.

She'll let you deep inside.

But there's a secret garden she hides.

She'll let you in her car.

To go drivin' round.

She'll let you into the parts of herself.

That'll bring you down.

She'll let you in her heart.

If you got a hammer and a vise.

But into her secret garden, don't think twice.

You've gone a million miles.

How far'd you get.

To that place where You can't remember.

And you can't forget.

She'll lead you down a path.

There'll be tenderness in the air.

She'll let you come just far enough.

So you know she's really there.

She'll look at you and smile.

And her eyes will say.

She's got a secret garden.

Where everything you want.

Where everything you need.

Will always stay.

A million miles away.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2547285]Nina Deponca is my name for her because she is a mulata who resembles Nina D. She pumps my nads in the very important respect that we like the same porn, namely heavy sado masochism. She's a natural dominant personality, but she is submissive for me. I've tied her up. As the bard wrote, mine mistress eyes are nothing like the sun; she is not the youngest, or most beautiful, but she has some great features like her tits, big clit, and a talented throat. We keep talking about doing more threesomes where I have her dominate a branca or ruiva (redhead), and use her fingers, fists, and a strapon to widen the unfortunate lass. We should do that before the moment passes. Like all the working girls, she is one of the usual suspects, IE, the long list of hookers who had the access and motive to take a long list of missing items, like broken burner cell phones, a bottle of adderall, a pocket knife, even a bandana. These stupid bitches hookers cariocas complain that it is just a cheap item, yes, but I bought that thing at the beach, and it is thus my property, and you took it without asking.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2547617]Thanks for the report! FWIW, the quarantine period for Pattaya has been cut to 7 days for vaccinated travelers. Still pretty unpleasant, but moving in the right direction at least.[/QUOTE]I started research this a day ago since I found out the 7 days quarantine. The embassy just announced swimming is allowed so it is a viable option for me now.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;2547418]Yes, I am in Rio now. I arrived here yesterday (Good Friday) morning.
[/QUOTE]

Looking forward to your report. I prefer to be in US time zone but I also like the freedom one can enjoy in Covid-free BKK/Pattaya.



[QUOTE=TheCane;2547558]+10! A basic mistake that many first timers to Latin America make.[/QUOTE]I think it depends. I have no problem making the same choice but I am not limited by vacation time. Right now, if my choice is between staying is US doing the same thing I did for the last 3 months, or be in Rio. I want to be in Rio.

[QUOTE=Dpilzbo;2547596]Are you give it a date Bob?[/QUOTE]I think Bob was asking when the result is checked, by airline during check-in or by immigration after arriving.

Bob, normally it should be during check-in.

I am falling dreadfully behind in my trip reports. This always happens. I will try to get something substantial out tomorrow. For now here are the headlines: last night was fun with Barra VIP #1. Almost GFE. And tonight I have Barra VIP #2 in a taxi coming over as I post this.

Got to Go.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2547559]I'm curious who checked your test results and was it required to enter Brazil? Did they check it for you to get on the plane or did they check it to enter Brazil? Also please report how the Fairmont handles your guest.[/QUOTE]There is a security table set up in front of the access point to the American Airlines Brazilian check in counter. All passengers are required to present their passport, their Covid 19 RPT test results, and the Brazilian Consulate's official cover page acknowledging that the passenger has filled out the required electronic questionnaire and submitted it to the consulate within 72 hours of the flight. (Just Go to the Miami Brazilian Consulate's webpage, find the link to the questionnaire, fill it out, submit it, and they email their official cover page with your name on it back to you). Nobody gets on the plane to Brazil without these 3 requirements.

I plan to post a review of all the hotels I stayed at on this trip at the end of my trip report. As to the Fairmont, their protocol is simple: masks are required in the lobby, but not by the 2 pools, he outdoor patios or in the restaurant once seated. There are soap dispensers everywhere. More ominous, there is a digital hand thermometer next to the front door. It scans a instant temperature reading from the palm of your hand. You can't enter the hotel without getting scanned.

Interestingly, the hotel had plenty of guests over the Easter weekend. They were mostly made up of groups of affluent 30 something to 40 something Brazilian couples. Some of these women looked pretty hot. I saw no silicones or oversized butts among them. Many of the men sported beards and it looked like they went to the gym a few times a week. It also looked like they were having a good time eating, drinking and socializing with one another. They were always in close proximity to one another by and in the pool area and none of them wore masks by the pool.

I am changing hotels tomorrow and moving to Ipanema.

I had another good session with Barra VIP girl #2 tonight. I gave both of my call girls 300 br plus a tip. Yesterday evening I received an email message from the manager of one of the Prive's I had contacted earlier saying that his place was going to open tomorrow for clients wishing to make a reservation in advance. I might take him up on his offer Tuesday, but I still am hoping that a couple of Termas open tomorrow too. That would be outstanding. But come what may, I also have a tentative date with another Barra VIP girl who I did not get to Saturday or Sunday. VIP girl # 3.

I am slowly discovering that Rio under the present situation is a renters market and that I am a renter.

Nina DePonca is over pernoite for 300. She says pernoite is 12 hours. I say it is 300 for 24 hours, which is Monique's deal (though I usually buy 300 worth of drinks, food, and beach trinkets too).

Some ISG member's allusion to Kipling has me going back to a classic Kipling ballad, and finding this wisdom.

[URL]http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_youngbrit.htm[/URL]

Kipling is the gift that keeps on giving.

Now, if you must marry, take care she is old -.

A troop-sergeant's widow's the nicest I'm told.

For beauty won't help if your rations is cold.

Nor love ain't enough for a soldier.

'Nough, 'nough, 'nough for a soldier. . .

If the wife should go wrong with a comrade, be loath.

To shoot when you catch 'them. You'll swing, on my oath! -.

Make 'I'm take 'er and keep 'er: that's Hell for them both.

An' you're shut o' the curse of a soldier.

Curse, curse, curse of a soldier. . .

"Millions go hungry in Brazil as pandemic exacerbates poverty".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjjQ67w8JiQ[/URL]

Journalist Glenn Greenwald describes how a gang of masked criminals held him and a policeman prisoner as they ransacked his farm house outside of Rio de Janeiro:

[URL]https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-enduring-terror-of-violent-crime[/URL]

For whoever is interested, this is a great site with images of brazilian girls.

[URL]http://www.forosx.com/internacional/general-agencias-escorts-independientes-fuera-de-espana-etc/14945-brasil-beleza-beleza-pura-162.html[/URL]

Beleza Pura.

Good information.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2548073]"Millions go hungry in Brazil as pandemic exacerbates poverty".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjjQ67w8JiQ[/URL]

Journalist Glenn Greenwald describes how a gang of masked criminals held him and a policeman prisoner as they ransacked his farm house outside of Rio de Janeiro:

[URL]https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-enduring-terror-of-violent-crime[/URL][/QUOTE]

Rio de Janeiro (Reuters) - Police in Rio de Janeiro began an investigation on Wednesday into reports of possible diversions of the coronavirus vaccine after pictures emerged of health care labourers attaching needles to older individuals without infusing them. Police engaged neighbourhood government and wellbeing authorities to help comprehend what befell the dosages, which were proposed for high-hazard gatherings. At least three cases have been reported in Rio state of what local media call "air shots", where health workers administered fake vaccines from empty syringes. Recordings shared via online media show medical care labourers embeddings a needle into individuals' arms with a needle that has effectively been completely squeezed. The Rio State Nursing Council, known as Coren-RJ, said in a note that the staff involved had been fired and the elderly who received the placebo injections were subsequently vaccinated. On the off chance that the police track down that the antibodies have been redirected, those included can be indicted for misappropriation, which conveys a sentence of as long as 12 years in jail.

It is confirmed. All the Termas remain closed until Friday. So I am lining up another call girl for tonight. The only question is her place or mine. She lives in Barra.

She is picking porn on [URL]evilangel.com[/URL].

She doesn't like dark skinned.

She can watch what she wants.

I've been making a nice side living injecting Coconut water for $5000 reais a pop.

Haha.

This is a sick, sick joke.

[QUOTE=UweHertzog459;2548146]Rio de Janeiro (Reuters) - Police in Rio de Janeiro began an investigation on Wednesday into reports of possible diversions of the coronavirus vaccine after pictures emerged of health care labourers attaching needles to older individuals without infusing them. Police engaged neighbourhood government and wellbeing authorities to help comprehend what befell the dosages, which were proposed for high-hazard gatherings. At least three cases have been reported in Rio state of what local media call "air shots", where health workers administered fake vaccines from empty syringes. Recordings shared via online media show medical care labourers embeddings a needle into individuals' arms with a needle that has effectively been completely squeezed. The Rio State Nursing Council, known as Coren-RJ, said in a note that the staff involved had been fired and the elderly who received the placebo injections were subsequently vaccinated. On the off chance that the police track down that the antibodies have been redirected, those included can be indicted for misappropriation, which conveys a sentence of as long as 12 years in jail.[/QUOTE]I wonder how much those vaccines went for on the black market?

It seems so trivial sometimes to report on a little poontang recreational activity when all this serious shit is happening all over Brazil. We are living through some extraordinary pandemic times and I wish it were not so.

Anyway, Barra VIP girl #3 rocked my world tonight. I really liked her. She was a pretty good looker, although I would say her looks were more like that of a sexy girl next door type than model quality and she had a pair of real nice natural tits and a friendly, demure personality. She was a great kisser too. Alright, Alright, I admit it. I have a crush on her.

She kept me waiting an hour, however, and I almost cancelled her visit. Then before the session began, she asked for 500 r and I agreed to it. Don't know why. Just had a feeling. But it turned out she was worth it IMHO. The funniest memory of the night and trip was when she went into the water closet (the toilet / douche room) and unknowingly hit the douche control handle which sent a spray of water right smack into her face. She was obviously very surprised by the sudden wet event, but then she started laughing at it and it became funny. I like a girl that can laugh at herself and not take things so seriously. It shows character and personality.

In bed she was a great kisser and sensual BJ'er and of course I went down and took my time on her tasty vagina. Later on, she brought me to an orgasm in the first position we got into. Cowgirl and not many girls can accomplish that feat. It usually me takes a number of positions.

So, I think I found my first top 10 girl of the trip. I definitely plan to see this one again. Now back to the more serious stuff.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2548240]I wonder how much those vaccines went for on the black market?[/QUOTE]R600 according to local news. Surprisingly low I think.

Centro Patrol.

I headed into centro Monday.

I got to av presidente wilson at 12 h through indriver (like uber) from barra.

I headed to RB156.

The IT sales people are there taking orders in person, but you can't go into the stores.

I had texted a prive at TDM33 but having no response, I walked over to Metro Uruguayan.

I went into casa 13, which was open. A very attractive negra sat at the door.

I marked her as a possible target, she would not give me her number as she had a boyfriend.

I walked over to Boate 116 and 114 which were open.

Both had many good options.

I got some numbers.

I walked over to T31, which was open.

A very nice Morena, Raquel, was there, and I got her number which I had from before.

I walked over to Hotel Atlantico, and was exchanging texts with the TDM33 girl. She is working, as is her prive, on appointments. We marked for a pernoite Saturday.

Many of the popular mercado stores at Uruguiana are open. I bought a battery charger, I also picked up some food from casa pedro nearby. But even stores like sapatellos are closed.

I waked over to 502, which is closed. 4 x4 is closed. ClubMixBar is closed.

I texted Monique on FB. I got an indriver out to her.

On the way, I asked the driver to go by VM.

VM appears to be open. I drove through and didn't stop. On the north side of VM, the streets leading up to the hostels for the short time appointments are open, and have some good looking black street walkers (BSW). Again, I didn't stop.

I picked up Monique in Zona Norte.

We headed back to Barra.

Three orgasms last night, and she's over for pernoite, which I usually pay 250/ night for for 2 nites consecutive. As I mentioned before at some point I average 45 r per orgasm over several days.

So, in summary, in Rio now, prives with appointments and freelancers as Natty Bumpo is reporting are the good options, which are in world class terms, great options.

The death of Rio is greatly exaggerated.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2548073]"Millions go hungry in Brazil as pandemic exacerbates poverty".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjjQ67w8JiQ[/URL]

Journalist Glenn Greenwald describes how a gang of masked criminals held him and a policeman prisoner as they ransacked his farm house outside of Rio de Janeiro:

[URL]https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-enduring-terror-of-violent-crime[/URL][/QUOTE]Hopefully the income from tourism will help alleviate the dire situation which Brazil is facing.

Nice reports Natty. How would you describe the actual appearance of the girls on Barra VIP's versus online versus in person. Also did you negotiate with this girl for a lesser amount prior to the actual appointment? Are you staying in Barra?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2548276]It seems so trivial sometimes to report on a little poontang recreational activity when all this serious shit is happening all over Brazil. We are living through some extraordinary pandemic times and I wish it were not so.

Anyway, Barra VIP girl #3 rocked my world tonight. I really liked her. She was a pretty good looker, although I would say her looks were more like that of a sexy girl next door type than model quality and she had a pair of real nice natural tits and a friendly, demure personality. She was a great kisser too. Alright, Alright, I admit it. I have a crush on her.

She kept me waiting an hour, however, and I almost cancelled her visit. Then before the session began, she asked for 500 r and I agreed to it. Don't know why. Just had a feeling. But it turned out she was worth it IMHO. The funniest memory of the night and trip was when she went into the water closet (the toilet / douche room) and unknowingly hit the douche control handle which sent a spray of water right smack into her face. She was obviously very surprised by the sudden wet event, but then she started laughing at it and it became funny. I like a girl that can laugh at herself and not take things so seriously. It shows character and personality.

In bed she was a great kisser and sensual BJ'er and of course I went down and took my time on her tasty vagina. Later on, she brought me to an orgasm in the first position we got into. Cowgirl and not many girls can accomplish that feat. It usually me takes a number of positions..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Markon;2548474]Nice reports Natty. How would you describe the actual appearance of the girls on Barra VIP's versus online versus in person. Also did you negotiate with this girl for a lesser amount prior to the actual appointment? Are you staying in Barra?[/QUOTE]Hi Markon,

The 3 Barra VIP girls that I hooked up with looked just like their photos and especially like their short videos on their profile page. No surprises / no switcheroos thus far.

The first girl sent me some additional pics and videos of herself without my asking while we were in the flirting / get to know you phase of our WhatsApp interview.

WhatsApping the girls and making a date takes time. The girls respond very quickly to the opening salvo, but then they drop out and drop back into the conversation over the next hour or so. Maybe they are doing other things or what I don't know, but I don't try to rush it. I take it slow. Meanwhile I am texting with 2 or 3 other girls simultaneously. They don't know this, so the process is kind of like a Dutch auction. LOL and the winning bid gets me.

I don't like to talk about money. I know what the going rate is more or less and so do the girls. So, I am not worried about being over charged. If a girl shows up and asks an outrageous amount I show her the door and give her some taxi money to make her leave quietly.

The 1st girl mentioned her price (400 r) while we were still on WhatsApp before we made the date and I told her I thought that was a lot of money. Then I added that I would give her 300 are and if she made me happy, I would make her happy too and she agreed to my proposal. And in the end, we made each other happy. Ha Ha.

There was no mention of money with the 2nd or 3rd girl. We agreed on a time and place. That was all. It was Easter Sunday night when the 2nd girl arrived. She asked if I would buy her a drink at the bar. I said ok and we got real cozy all alone by the pool overlooking Copacabana Beach if you know what I mean, LOL. While we were kissing and fondling in the dark, she said she wanted to spend the night with me, but I nixed that idea saying I preferred short time on the first date. Then we went upstairs and go it on. I gave her 300 are plus a generous tip and she left happy.

I already mentioned #3. She hit me up for 500 are in the room before we got started and I agreed to it but "only if she was worth it," I said. LOL. She laughed too and said she was. And she was, but when I gave her the scratch, I counted out 400 r and made sure she saw that count before I counted out an additional 100 r as her tip. I know it is negligible difference in point of view, but I wanted to make the point, nonetheless. In the final analysis she got asking price and that's the price I am stuck with for her from now until eternity, but I don't care because I like this one. The hot babes always get away with more.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2548534]In the final analysis she got asking price and that's the price I am stuck with for her from now until eternity, but I don't care because I like this one. The hot babes always get away with more.[/QUOTE]I don't think so, I use these sites for many years. Usually on first date I give them what they ask for if it's not too outrageous. Then if things went well a lot of times they will text you just to say Hi and how are you doing. What they are looking for is money, I'll tell them I'm just hanging out, would you like to come over for $xxx and they usually say yes. You're now a known entity to them so they know what they're getting. A lot of these girls are very nervous on first meet, once they get to know you and like you they should take less unless they're a real hot commodity.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;2548534]I don't like to talk about money. I know what the going rate is more or less and so do the girls. So, I am not worried about being over charged.[/QUOTE]
IMO it seems obvious you have not only been overcharged but also tipping the girls way too much. That way you spoil her and might ruin for other customers.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2548597]I don't think so, I use these sites for many years. Usually on first date I give them what they ask for if it's not too outrageous. Then if things went well a lot of times they will text you just to say Hi and how are you doing. What they are looking for is money, I'll tell them I'm just hanging out, would you like to come over for $xxx and they usually say yes. You're now a known entity to them so they know what they're getting. A lot of these girls are very nervous on first meet, once they get to know you and like you they should take less unless they're a real hot commodity.[/QUOTE]Rio Bob was there the day Pedro Cabral's ship landed in Rio and makes an exceptionally important point. Not only are they going to be hanging out with a total stranger, they also will be doing so without their clothes. The more comfortable they are, the better your experience, the more likely they will want to return and the more likely they will have good things to say about you to others. This all translates into what many of you seem to worry about the most, paying less. So, maybe the question is not to ask repeatedly how much someone paid, but to ask why some guys pay little or nothing at all?

Spartan pricing.

I agree.

Fwiw I never pay more than $150 r for a girl in Transamerica which is barravipsrio basically.

But for a short term traveler staying In the Fairmont I guess it is ok, but that's why some of the new girls at Transamerica will do an hour for 150 or even some drinks but after a few weeks or months the top girls insist on 600 an hour.

Which is crazy as 350 pernoite is my normal rate.

But there are top girls on barravipsrio.

Some mongers ask me for referrals in copa.

My response in post here is.

[URL]Gpguia.net[/URL]

And.

Gparena.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2548635]IMO it seems obvious you have not only been overcharged but also tipping the girls way too much. That way you spoil her and might ruin for other customers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2548635]IMO it seems obvious you have not only been overcharged but also tipping the girls way too much. That way you spoil her and might ruin for other customers.[/QUOTE]Hi Sperto,

I appreciate your honest critique, but I notice that you left out of your post what you consider to be the real price range for Barra VIPs girls. Now there are 2 components to it: the price and the tip.

The tip is a personal matter. Some guys don't tip. Period. And that's fine by mean. I tip for good or better service received. I think my tip to #3 was very generous indeed HA HA. In Thailand I generally tip a 1st time encounter with a Go-Go girl that was l really excellent in bed something between 300 baht and 500 bhat (roughly $10 to $17). Thus, a 50 br to 100 br tip in Rio for very good service rendered is in line with my standards and should be considered a very nice tip indeed.

As far as the more important component: the price of ST with Barra VIPs girls, I am assuming the range is between 250 br and 350 br and higher based on the prices I see on competitive web sites like [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] where I see prices quoted anywhere between 90 br to 300 br with most girls asking 100 br to 200 br. The problem I have with photoacompanhantes is 1) I don't find many of their girls attractive and 2) there have been too many stories of fake photos, old photos, and or bad performance. On the times I tried to use the service, I could not find a review of the photoacompanhantes girl that I thought had date potential, so I stopped looking.

Last night I had the pleasure of Barra VIPS girl #4. We never discussed price. The sex was great. I will get to that in a subsequent post. When it was time to pay her, I counted out 300 br and then a little something for round trip taxi fare from Barra to Ipanema, and a healthy tip. So, I gave her 400 br. She was definitely happy with the count and showed her appreciation. Now maybe I overpaid a little. Maybe I didn't. I don't know. But the girl left happy, and I was happy, and I may very likely see her again. I seriously don't think I am spoiling the market. That's my take on it anyway.

Do you speak Portuguese sir?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2548749]Hi Sperto,

I appreciate your honest critique, but I notice that you left out of your post what you consider to be the real price range for Barra VIPs girls. Now there are 2 components to it: the price and the tip.

The tip is a personal matter. Some guys don't tip. Period. And that's fine by mean. I tip for good or better service received. I think my tip to #3 was very generous indeed HA HA. In Thailand I generally tip a 1st time encounter with a Go-Go girl that was l really excellent in bed something between 300 baht and 500 bhat (roughly $10 to $17). Thus, a 50 br to 100 br tip in Rio for very good service rendered is in line with my standards and should be considered a very nice tip indeed.

As far as the more important component: the price of ST with Barra VIPs girls, I am assuming the range is between 250 br and 350 br and higher based on the prices I see on competitive web sites like [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] where I see prices quoted anywhere between 90 br to 300 br with most girls asking 100 br to 200 br. The problem I have with photoacompanhantes is 1) I don't find many of their girls attractive and 2) there have been too many stories of fake photos, old photos, and or bad performance. On the times I tried to use the service, I could not find a review of the photoacompanhantes girl that I thought had date potential, so I stopped looking.

Last night I had the pleasure of Barra VIPS girl #4. We never discussed price. The sex was great. I will get to that in a subsequent post. When it was time to pay her, I counted out 300 br and then a little something for round trip taxi fare from Barra to Ipanema, and a healthy tip. So, I gave her 400 br. She was definitely happy with the count and showed her appreciation. Now maybe I overpaid a little. Maybe I didn't. I don't know. But the girl left happy, and I was happy, and I may very likely see her again. I seriously don't think I am spoiling the market. That's my take on it anyway.[/QUOTE]Dudes. Natty is an experienced guy I know from the Thailand threads. He's no rube messing up the market. He's doing what feels right and it's surely within reason. Girls will price discriminate just like the airlines do. Same girl will go with Sperto at 150 and Natty at 300 very likely and both are happy. If she has to choose she'll choose the better paying dude all things created equal. And that's basic capitalism. Suggest we should all be ok with that concept.

A lot of them Barra VIP girls look amazing. How do the girls at the mid to upper range Termas compare to them?

Crazy how bad the Covid situation seems to be over there now, feel sorry for the Brazilian people.

Hopefully I'll be able to get there by July but not getting my hopes up with the rules in re-entering my country.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2548845]Do you speak Portuguese sir?[/QUOTE]No, not a lick.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2548847]Dudes. Natty is an experienced guy I know from the Thailand threads. He's no rube messing up the market. He's doing what feels right and it's surely within reason. Girls will price discriminate just like the airlines do. Same girl will go with Sperto at 150 and Natty at 300 very likely and both are happy. If she has to choose she'll choose the better paying dude all things created equal. And that's basic capitalism. Suggest we should all be ok with that concept.[/QUOTE]Hey Steve,

How are you doing? I am having a pretty good time here in Rio. The beaches are nearly empty. I spend around 2 hours every morning just beachcombing and jumping into the water / body surfing whenever I get hot. Maybe 10 people walk past me every 30 minutes or so. The closest people to me in the water are 60 or 80 yards away.

I feel like I am Charlton Heston in "the Omega Man," the last man standing in Rio except there are no zombies or walking dead; only Barra VIPs call girls. I would love to turn this idea into a movie. I need a good actor to play me and I think I would use the call girls to play themselves. What a strange time for a vacation. Ha!. But I am liking it! I am supposed to fly to Sao Paulo next week, but if the shutdown is not lifted, I would rather stay here in Rio.

I have no trouble with the reality that guys that live in Rio pay less. If I lived in Rio I would be paying less too or be getting a lot more time. That is as plain as rain.

Here is what Ipanema was like this morning around 11 am. Amazing!

As I posted previously Barra VIPs Girl #4 came over last night. We had been chatting the previous night, but I went with #3 on Monday. Tonight, was this one's turn. We did not discuss money or any sexual related issues before the session or during the session or after the session. She told me she is 18 years old. Here are the highlights.

She arrived around 30 minutes late but looked great. She was of mixed race: part Caucasian / part African with soft curly hair, light café latte skin tone, small round breasts, thin arms, flat tummy and a perky little ass. She was friendly from the outset. I offered her a glass of red wine and we went out onto the balcony overlooking Ipanema. The passionate kissing started pretty soon thereafter. We finished off the wine and went inside where I took off her top and she un zipped my jeans, knelt in front of me and with a naughty little smile on her face began to deep throat me.

The BJ continued on the bed until I pulled her up to me and we began kissing again. After a while I began kissing her tits and slowly licked my way south to her belly button. Her skin was very smooth. I got to her thighs and decided to go all the way downtown. Her pussy tasted sweet, and she became wet very quickly. After a while she began to get really turned on and squeezed her thighs around my head as I continued licking and playing around with her clit. In the last stages she pressed my head with her hands exactly where she wanted it and began humping my face until she came. It got pretty wild.

After things calmed down, I moved up between her legs and began kissing her again very passionately. I was about to enter her when she came out of her trance, laughed a little, and asked for a condom. I gave her one of my Sagami 002's and she applied it to my cock and then she impaled herself.

She had 2 positions in cowgirl: 1st the squat with the palms of her feet on the bed to implement a full in & out motion, and 2nd the parallel to my body position tightly holding on to me while engaged in nonstop kissing. I liked both positions.

Eventually I flipped her over on her back and I moved into mish. At first, she encouraged me pound her, but then she pulled me tight in close to her body and would not release me. We kissed nonstop. I held her very tight as well and it was in this position that I let go of myself. I am not sure if she had a 2nd orgasm or not, but I think it is safe to say we both enjoyed session.

After we cooled off, we showered together. Then she took out her phone and asked me to take pics of her naked around the room. I pulled out my own phone too and shot away on both. She posed herself standing in front of the mirror, laying on the big easy chair, on the bed and standing on the balcony.

When she went to the bathroom to tidy herself up, I counted out the money I planned to give her. As reported before, I gave her 400 br total for the ST, plus car fare, and tip.

So this was another great session. So far I am batting 1000:2 of my sessions were good & the last 2 sessions were pretty awesome. Tonight, I am looking forward to Barra VIPs girl #5. I have 2 girls in the running for this slot. Tomorrow I move to Barra.

I have had fun here in Rio so far and met a couple of great girls, but it is definitely weird here with the shutdown. The beach is really great with no people, however. Just amazing! I will post more on the beach scene tomorrow or the next day. I really hope the bars open Friday.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2548749]Thus, a 50 br to 100 br tip in Rio for very good service rendered is in line with my standards and should be considered a very nice tip indeed.
[/QUOTE]That is an insane tip. In the Help days we used to get chicks all night for 100 reais. I gave the last Tinder chick that I fucked in Rio 100 reais plus 8 reais for Uber.

But I told you service in Brazil is top notch, so I guess I can understand your excitement and anxiousness.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2548888]That is an insane tip. In the Help days we used to get chicks all night for 100 reais. I gave the last Tinder chick that I fucked in Rio 100 reais plus 8 reais for Uber.

But I told you service in Brazil is top notch, so I guess I can understand your excitement and anxiousness.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I am having a god time. I'll get it under control in a little while. 555. Meanwhile I tried the board's recommendations tonight on two Barra VIP's girls. Asked and was hit with 500 br both times and they wouldn't climb down. I think I will stick to my way. No business talk until after.

Take Care, Mr E. And BTW where are you now?

I'm paying 250 pernoite for 3 x nites, and Monique is fine with that. Cooks, cleans, gives me 4-8 orgasms a day on command.

But the barravipsrio girls are top shelf.

They are not better than the top prive girl at onix or the others I found at tdm33, which I may* report like johnny walker when I am done.

Somewhat seriously, I read the novel shantaram and have some reservations about acting as a pornographer or pimp.

But then, I do like doing that.

Who doesn't.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2548888]That is an insane tip. In the Help days we used to get chicks all night for 100 reais. I gave the last Tinder chick that I fucked in Rio 100 reais plus 8 reais for Uber.

But I told you service in Brazil is top notch, so I guess I can understand your excitement and anxiousness.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2548866]Hey Steve,

How are you doing? I am having a pretty good time here in Rio. The beaches are nearly empty. I spend around 2 hours every morning just beachcombing and jumping into the water / body surfing whenever I get hot. Maybe 10 people walk past me every 30 minutes or so. The closest people to me in the water are 60 or 80 yards away.

I feel like I am Charlton Heston in "the Omega Man," the last man standing in Rio except there are no zombies or walking dead; only Barra VIPs call girls. I would love to turn this idea into a movie. I need a good actor to play me and I think I would use the call girls to play themselves. What a strange time for a vacation. Ha!. But I am liking it! I am supposed to fly to Sao Paulo next week, but if the shutdown is not lifted, I would rather stay here in Rio.

I have no trouble with the reality that guys that live in Rio pay less. If I lived in Rio I would be paying less too or be getting a lot more time. That is as plain as rain.

Here is what Ipanema was like this morning around 11 am. Amazing![/QUOTE]And if you are enjoying it now, then imagine how it would be in normal times. And you haven't been to Sao Paulo or other parts of Brazil yet. I hope to return one day, but not right now. And I'm vaccinated. Just not going to risk it. That pussy will still be there. Monger on! As best you can.

I think that is fair pricing for top shelf.

But as I said, the top prive girls are same quality as barravipsrio.

But the prives are mostly not open, unless you call ahead.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2548890]Yeah, I am having a god time. I'll get it under control in a little while. 555. Meanwhile I tried the board's recommendations tonight on two Barra VIP's girls. Asked and was hit with 500 br both times and they wouldn't climb down. I think I will stick to my way. No business talk until after.

Take Care, Mr E. And BTW where are you now?[/QUOTE]

The rich world is going to have to pay for vaxx for Brazil.

That will happen by year end.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2548895]And if you are enjoying it now, then imagine how it would be in normal times. And you haven't been to Sao Paulo or other parts of Brazil yet. I hope to return one day, but not right now. And I'm vaccinated. Just not going to risk it. That pussy will still be there. Monger on! As best you can.[/QUOTE]

So we are going on pernoite 3.

I pay her 250 per.

So wth 5 orgasms a day, it is about 45 per nut.

Plus she cooks cleans all that. Hangs out with my friends when they come over and zoom in.

It makes me look like some kind of dan bilzerian genius as I talk to rich world friends with their ugly ass 50 year + old wives with all kind of kids from other men that the idiot on the video call is paying for while I have a 22 year old negra blow me only a little off camera.

Since we are looking for some redeeming social value, that is what your English teacher would call irony.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/channels/bradmontanaxxx[/URL]

When the local hooker picked porn, this is what she picked.

Nota bene.

Felipe ret or papatino.

Start radio on google play or spotify.

This is the single best reason that now is the optimal time to be in Brazil.

5.61 exchange rate.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2548890]Take Care, Mr E. And BTW where are you now?[/QUOTE]I am in this 90 minute immigration line trying to cross into San Diego from Tijuana.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2548936]This is the single best reason that now is the optimal time to be in Brazil.

5.61 exchange rate.[/QUOTE]OMG. When I was fucking Scandallo hotties in 2018 and 2019 at 4:1 I thought I'the died and gone to heaven. 6:1 is crazy! Enjoy it while you can fellas.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2548862]No, not a lick.[/QUOTE]Thought so, I'm always amazed by this. Have fun. Can't get into Mada so I bought an arrival for o cidade maravilhosa on 5/30. Chão!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2548888]That is an insane tip. In the Help days we used to get chicks all night for 100 reais. I gave the last Tinder chick that I fucked in Rio 100 reais plus 8 reais for Uber.[/QUOTE]It just depended on the always volatile currency situation. From my observations during many nights at Help, fifty bucks could get you an all-nighter with a Brazilian cutie. The top girls held out for more. Given that the Real was under 2 to 1 dollar in the last year's of Help, 100 reais was worth something.

Help was mostly a meat market for foreigners. Prices were somewhat sensitive to currency fluctuations. The experienced top shelf girls always seemed to price off the dollar.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2548944]I am in this 90 minute immigration line trying to cross into San Diego from Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Why don't you declare yourself a "political refugee"? That seems to work coming from the other side.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2548870]As I posted previously Barra VIPs Girl #4 came over last night. We had been chatting the previous night, but I went with #3 on Monday. Tonight, was this one's turn. We did not discuss money or any sexual related issues before the session or during the session or after the session. She told me she is 18 years old. Here are the highlights.....[/QUOTE]Hey Natty, could you post some names of Barravips girls? I realize many of the girls come and go. But it can be a useful reference point.

Also, how is the tattoo situation with the Barravips girls? I'm old school. Large and / or many tattoos are a turn-off for me. The advantage of a termas girl or a prive girl is I can see the tattoo situation in advance. Many of the on-line escorts can cover the tattoos in photos.

Sara is hot, but totally into her own social media bubble. She's off on a trip with some sucker.

Duda freitas is new and 18 yo hot, but she's just a Rio favela girl, you can get the same thing for prive rates.

Yasmin the blond is 18, from SP.

I had Monique over 250 per diaria for 3 days.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2549112]Hey Natty, could you post some names of Barravips girls? I realize many of the girls come and go. But it can be a useful reference point.

Also, how is the tattoo situation with the Barravips girls? I'm old school. Large and / or many tattoos are a turn-off for me. The advantage of a termas girl or a prive girl is I can see the tattoo situation in advance. Many of the on-line escorts can cover the tattoos in photos.[/QUOTE]

Supposedly, the lockdown is over today.

The local mall (barra garden) has stores open today.

I got this information from my friendly local computer store guy.

Prior to Rio's Olympics, it came out that Rio's beaches are polluted and contaminated. Like Pattaya, Rio dumps it's raw sewage. Take a dip into the ocean, you might encounter a turd floating nearby. Rinse off with the showers provided by the barracas, and you'll be rinsing with urine contaminated water. Yeah, the beaches are gorgeous, too bad they're contaminated with ecoli and other things. When I heard about that, I stopped going to Copa and Ipanema beach.
The beach at Recreio dos Bandeirantes has been the cleanest in the area, but it's a haul from Copa.
Btw, With the lack of tourists, Pattaya beach is cleaner now.

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-de-janiero-water-pollution-olympics-2016#:~:text=In%20Rio%2C%20beaches%20are%20considered,limits%20on%20three%20separate%20occasions.[/url]

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2549436]Prior to Rio's Olympics, it came out that Rio's beaches are polluted and contaminated. Like Pattaya, Rio dumps it's raw sewage. Take a dip into the ocean, you might encounter a turd floating nearby. Rinse off with the showers provided by the barracas, and you'll be rinsing with urine contaminated water. Yeah, the beaches are gorgeous, too bad they're contaminated with ecoli and other things. When I heard about that, I stopped going to Copa and Ipanema beach.
The beach at Recreio dos Bandeirantes has been the cleanest in the area, but it's a haul from Copa.
Btw, With the lack of tourists, Pattaya beach is cleaner now.

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-de-janiero-water-pollution-olympics-2016#:~:text=In%20Rio%2C%20beaches%20are%20considered,limits%20on%20three%20separate%20occasions.[/url][/QUOTE]Yeah, and in order to get the games, they made all of these big promises about cleaning the place up (including Guanabara Bay), which of course they didn't do. Stuff is nice to look at, but go swimming at the beach in Rio at your own peril!

That is very good news. I appreciate all the information recently from everyone and field reports by Natty. I admire him for his screw it I'm going now regardless attitude. I'm a little more cautious. I'm getting a 2nd vaccine shot shortly and I'm not particularly fearful of travel to Brazil, its more I want to experience everything open. This would be a first trip over and I hate to have to do it with things shut down, particularly Scandello. The real question is. When is this going to happen? I was planning on a trip in a few months or less. On the up side for people who are traveling now, I can see it as a buyers market.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2549398]Supposedly, the lockdown is over today.

The local mall (barra garden) has stores open today.

I got this information from my friendly local computer store guy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2549397]Duda freitas is new and 18 yo hot, but she's just a Rio favela girl, you can get the same thing for prive rates.

Yasmin the blond is 18, from SP.

I had Monique over 250 per diaria for 3 days.[/QUOTE]It really is a small world. I have only been in town a week and I have been with all three of these girls. I never mention names on an open forum, but it looks like the cat is out of the bag on this lot, so here is my list in chronological order: M was my #3 VIP, the was my #4 & #6 VIP, and why was my #5 VIP.

Thursday afternoon I moved from Ipanema to Barra. Thursday night I thought it would be good to have a repeat with #3, but she said she was busy until around 11 and I did not care to wait that long. So I booked another girl that had been in my runner's up column for a couple of nights. She showed up on time and we had a glass of wine out on the balcony overlooking the beach We kissed a little but she was not very passionate. Back in the room on the bed I made a move and she stopped me and said it was time for me to pay her. I naturally didn't agree and I told her in a friendly straight forward way that it was definitely not the time to pay her. She then insisted, however, and said if I did not pay her in advance she would leave, so I smiled and said, "that is up to you. If you want to leave, leave, but no matter what, I only pay after. " So she got a little vexed and said I did not know the rules. I laughed laughed and then said I have been with a thousand girls all over the world and I never pay in advance. Only bad girls need to be paid in advance and stormed out. Bye Bye.

So I got back on the internet to see who could come over and pinch hit. M, my first choice of the evening was offline. Why was MIA too. But my #4, was online and she was happy to hear from me. I asked if she was free. She said she was and asked when I wanted to see her. I said how about now and she came right over. And we had another great night.

Funny but true, she told me she lived at Transamerica. I fibbed a little and told her I had a friend who lived at Transamerica. She asked what his name was and I since I was not going to talk out of class and say Vagabundo. LOL. I said Jimmy. She said she did not know a Jimmy, then I said that she probably saw him hanging around the pool and hadn't been introduced.

Later after she left I received a text from one of the massage places I had reached out to earlier in the week saying that they were going to be open Friday starting at 10 am. This morning I received another message from them, so I texted back. The manager offered one of his girls for a 10 am appointment, but that girl was not my type. I then inquired about my 1st choice and sadly she was not available until Monday. But he said my 2nd choice is available this afternoon, so I am heading over there in an hour or so. This should be good.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2549436]Prior to Rio's Olympics, it came out that Rio's beaches are polluted and contaminated. Like Pattaya, Rio dumps it's raw sewage. Take a dip into the ocean, you might encounter a turd floating nearby. Rinse off with the showers provided by the barracas, and you'll be rinsing with urine contaminated water. Yeah, the beaches are gorgeous, too bad they're contaminated with ecoli and other things. When I heard about that, I stopped going to Copa and Ipanema beach.
The beach at Recreio dos Bandeirantes has been the cleanest in the area, but it's a haul from Copa.
Btw, With the lack of tourists, Pattaya beach is cleaner now.

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-de-janiero-water-pollution-olympics-2016#:~:text=In%20Rio%2C%20beaches%20are%20considered,limits%20on%20three%20separate%20occasions.[/url][/QUOTE]Some time ago I posted the site that checks the water quality at Brazil beaches.

[URL]http://praialimpa.net[/URL]

It looks legit to me, here is the source - [URL]http://www.inea.rj.gov.br[/URL].

Checking today, Barra is mostly good, Copa, Apraodor and Ipanema are good, Leblon is mostly bad. This situation changes every day, so if you trust the source, you ideally need to check before heading to the beach. Today the site specifically recommends Ipanema and Grumari as the cleanest in Rio.

Just my 2. 25 cents.

This is why every monger needs to book Transamerica / Mediterraneo.

All those girls can be fucked at the pool for 150 or a few drinks.

Protip: bring your DSLR to get some DSL barter.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2549469]It really is a small world. I have only been in town a week and I have been with all three of these girls. I never mention names on an open forum, but it looks like the cat is out of the bag on this lot, so here is my list in chronological order: M was my #3 VIP, the was my #4 & #6 VIP, and why was my #5 VIP.

Thursday afternoon I moved from Ipanema to Barra. Thursday night I thought it would be good to have a repeat with #3, but she said she was busy until around 11 and I did not care to wait that long. So I booked another girl that had been in my runner's up column for a couple of nights. She showed up on time and we had a glass of wine out on the balcony overlooking the beach We kissed a little but she was not very passionate. Back in the room on the bed I made a move and she stopped me and said it was time for me to pay her. I naturally didn't agree and I told her in a friendly straight forward way that it was definitely not the time to pay her. She then insisted, however, and said if I did not pay her in advance she would leave, so I smiled and said, "that is up to you. If you want to leave, leave, but no matter what, I only pay after. " So she got a little vexed and said I did not know the rules. I laughed laughed and then said I have been with a thousand girls all over the world and I never pay in advance. Only bad girls need to be paid in advance and stormed out. Bye Bye.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Markon;2549465]That is very good news.[/QUOTE]
"The lockdown is over today." I didn't know Brazil had a lockdown. Restrictions, yes. Less restrictions today, yes. Nothing is over, Brazil have a record in covid-19 death-tolls.

I think not paying advance in some cases is going to cause you a lot of problems. I've been at this for 50 years. I don't understand how you can say that you only will pay after?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2549469]It really is a small world. I have only been in town a week and I have been with all three of these girls. I never mention names on an open forum, but it looks like the cat is out of the bag on this lot, so here is my list in chronological order: M was my #3 VIP, the was my #4 & #6 VIP, and why was my #5 VIP.

Thursday afternoon I moved from Ipanema to Barra. Thursday night I thought it would be good to have a repeat with #3, but she said she was busy until around 11 and I did not care to wait that long. So I booked another girl that had been in my runner's up column for a couple of nights. She showed up on time and we had a glass of wine out on the balcony overlooking the beach We kissed a little but she was not very passionate. Back in the room on the bed I made a move and she stopped me and said it was time for me to pay her. I naturally didn't agree and I told her in a friendly straight forward way that it was definitely not the time to pay her. She then insisted, however, and said if I did not pay her in advance she would leave, so I smiled and said, "that is up to you. If you want to leave, leave, but no matter what, I only pay after. " So she got a little vexed and said I did not know the rules. I laughed laughed and then said I have been with a thousand girls all over the world and I never pay in advance. Only bad girls need to be paid in advance and stormed out. Bye Bye.

So I got back on the internet to see who could come over and pinch hit. M, my first choice of the evening was offline. Why was MIA too. But my #4, was online and she was happy to hear from me. I asked if she was free. She said she was and asked when I wanted to see her. I said how about now and she came right over. And we had another great night.

Funny but true, she told me she lived at Transamerica. I fibbed a little and told her I had a friend who lived at Transamerica. She asked what his name was and I since I was not going to talk out of class and say Vagabundo. LOL. I said Jimmy. She said she did not know a Jimmy, then I said that she probably saw him hanging around the pool and hadn't been introduced.

Later after she left I received a text from one of the massage places I had reached out to earlier in the week saying that they were going to be open Friday starting at 10 am. This morning I received another message from them, so I texted back. The manager offered one of his girls for a 10 am appointment, but that girl was not my type. I then inquired about my 1st choice and sadly she was not available until Monday. But he said my 2nd choice is available this afternoon, so I am heading over there in an hour or so. This should be good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2549566]I think not paying advance in some cases is going to cause you a lot of problems. I've been at this for 50 years. I don't understand how you can say that you only will pay after?[/QUOTE]At a privê you may pay in advance, but I never heard of someone paying in advance when order a escort girl. That's just asking for problems.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2549566]I think not paying advance in some cases is going to cause you a lot of problems. I've been at this for 50 years. I don't understand how you can say that you only will pay after?[/QUOTE]I have been playing the punting game for a long time too. I only pay afterwards in with regards to all bar girls, go go girls, FL's, SW's and escorts. And throughout my illustrious career only a small hand full of girls have ever objected or asked to be paid in advance. This one from last night was the first that ever walked out and I think I dodged a bullet or at the least a mediocre session with that one.

In certain brick and mortar venues like BKK soapy massage parlors the customer must pay in advance before he can take his girl upstairs. This is a completely different scenario than the one I was speaking about and I always pay in advance when I am in one of these bordellos. Other bordellos like Jakarta lounges & clubs and Macau saunas do not ask for prepayment. But if you try getting out of one of these places without paying the bill you will wind up in the hospital.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2549560]"The lockdown is over today." I didn't know Brazil had a lockdown. Restrictions, yes. Less restrictions today, yes. Nothing is over, Brazil have a record in covid-19 death-tolls.[/QUOTE]I am desperate to travel again and have never been to Rio. I have taken my time and RTFF and thanks to the generous and valuable advice given by members on here, I can't wait to visit! As I am in the UK my problem is Bolsanaro is portrayed as a complete lunatic in the media and because of the low vaccination rates in Brazil, they will be on our 'Red List' for ages yet! This means we get fined if we travel without an approved reason. Unfortunately, fantastic women isn't a good enough reason for our government. CDMX will be open for us next month so I will try there first and visit Rio later in the year. Thanks again for all your advice everyone. Look forward to hopefully meeting up for a few beers when I do eventually make it. Keep safe.

[QUOTE=Walshy;2549712]I am desperate to travel again and have never been to Rio. . . . Unfortunately, fantastic women isn't a good enough reason for our government . . . [/QUOTE]I hear our governments, maybe excepting passage to Brazil, for extreme rare cases of [b] "Blue Balls" [/b].

Just kidding! Hopefully, soon enough...hang-in-there!

[QUOTE=Walshy;2549712]I am desperate to travel again and have never been to Rio. I have taken my time and RTFF and thanks to the generous and valuable advice given by members on here, I can't wait to visit! As I am in the UK my problem is Bolsanaro is portrayed as a complete lunatic in the media and because of the low vaccination rates in Brazil, they will be on our 'Red List' for ages yet! This means we get fined if we travel without an approved reason. Unfortunately, fantastic women isn't a good enough reason for our government. CDMX will be open for us next month so I will try there first and visit Rio later in the year. Thanks again for all your advice everyone. Look forward to hopefully meeting up for a few beers when I do eventually make it. Keep safe.[/QUOTE]Dude if you are in the UK and trying to travel elsewhere you are out of your mind! You are soooo lucky to be there. Just Google Diva Escort and call it a day. Take a well reviewed 150 £ Diva girl and do incall at her flat. It's one of the very best venues in the world! Sure Brasil is my number 1 fave destination but London is number 2! Count your blessings and get a Diva girl!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2549557]This is why every monger needs to book Transamerica / Mediterraneo.

All those girls can be fucked at the pool for 150 or a few drinks.

Protip: bring your DSLR to get some DSL barter.[/QUOTE]Hi Vagabundo, what does DSLR and DSL mean?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2549531]Some time ago I posted the site that checks the water quality at Brazil beaches.[URL]http://praialimpa.net[/URL]It looks legit to me, here is the source - [URL]http://www.inea.rj.gov.br[/URL].[/QUOTE]Take that with a grain of salt. Rio's "standards" are lower. "For instance, an E. Coli count of up to 800 is acceptable in Brazil, whereas European standards typically set E. Coli counts below 500,. E. coli is a bacterial indicator of fecal contamination. "

[URL]https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/what-s-in-rio-s-bay-[/URL]

"Brazil: According to the Brazilian legislation specified in CONAMA's Resolution No. 274/2000, water bodies intended for primary contact (I. E. Swimming, and other full body contact activities) are classified as prpria (suitable) or imprpria (not suitable) for bathing depending on whether they met or exceeded water quality standards. CONAMA does not clearly define the minimum protective standard used to determine its water quality guidelines. ".

[URL]https://www.theswimguide.org/2016/08/10/rio-recreational-water-quality-standards/[/URL]

Praialimpa site, it's better than nothing I suppose.

I read somewhere, around the time of the Olympics, that the Japanese government gave Rio State hundreds of millions of dollars to build a sewage treatment plant in Guanabara Bay. It wasn't completed, and no one knows what happened to the money.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2549557]This is why every monger needs to book Transamerica / Mediterraneo.

All those girls can be fucked at the pool for 150 or a few drinks.

Protip: bring your DSLR to get some DSL barter.[/QUOTE]Bro, you said to tell them vagabundostransamerica sent you when booking on Airbnb. I couldn't find any transamerica postings on airbnb, what gives?

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2549948]

[URL]https://www.theswimguide.org/2016/08/10/rio-recreational-water-quality-standards/[/URL]

Praialimpa site, it's better than nothing I suppose.

I read somewhere, around the time of the Olympics, that the Japanese government gave Rio State hundreds of millions of dollars to build a sewage treatment plant in Guanabara Bay. It wasn't completed, and no one knows what happened to the money.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the link. And, yeah, I agree you should only use that site as a point of reference and not a clean bill of health. But if it says bad -- it's probably really bad.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2550020]Bro, you said to tell them vagabundostransamerica sent you when booking on Airbnb. I couldn't find any transamerica postings on airbnb, what gives?[/QUOTE]Because it's been reflagged or something. It's officially called Mediterraneo Flats from what I understand.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2549902]Dude if you are in the UK and trying to travel elsewhere you are out of your mind! You are soooo lucky to be there. Just Google Diva Escort and call it a day. Take a well reviewed 150 Diva girl and do incall at her flat. It's one of the very best venues in the world! Sure Brasil is my number 1 fave destination but London is number 2! Count your blessings and get a Diva girl![/QUOTE]That's for 1 hour, I presume? Not that these prices are surprising, but I would put quite a few countries between Brazil and paying $200 for a short-term pussy rentals.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2550079]That's for 1 hour, I presume? Not that these prices are surprising, but I would put quite a few countries between Brazil and paying $200 for a short-term pussy rentals.[/QUOTE]Each to their own I suppose but London isn't for me. It's a wonderful city with amazing history and there are girls there if you have the money. But prices at Diva, for example, start at £150 for an hour incall, that's about 1150 Reals! The worse part about that is that it will probably be a mechanical Eastern European girl who rushes you out of the door before your time is up. Even from a distance, Rio appears to offer a much more enjoyable experience? Keep the information coming gentlemen.

It was a joke.

I had a prive girl over pernoite for 300. Covered, so not my usual.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2550020]Bro, you said to tell them vagabundostransamerica sent you when booking on Airbnb. I couldn't find any transamerica postings on airbnb, what gives?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2549557]This is why every monger needs to book Transamerica / Mediterraneo.

All those girls can be fucked at the pool for 150 or a few drinks.

Protip: bring your DSLR to get some DSL barter.[/QUOTE]Dear Vagabundo1,

Thank you for your posts, I love to read you!

I am going to book in August some night in the Hotel. Transamerica / Medit.

Could you tell me more about the Transamerica Hotel? Tips, girls at the pool, restaurant, bar, party. Anything you can think of for my first time at the Transamerica.

Thank you very much as always!

PD. What is DSLR?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2550079]That's for 1 hour, I presume? Not that these prices are surprising, but I would put quite a few countries between Brazil and paying $200 for a short-term pussy rentals.[/QUOTE]Yeah everyone has their faves. But I am fairly price insensitive and enjoy the experience part as much as the sex. The incall scene in London is truly great. The girls are almost all Romanian and have their own flats (maybe a hooker roomate) that are generally tidy but small and you are right there in her bedroom.

Plus it's a nearly guaranteed experience. On [URL]divaescorts.com[/URL] for example they list all of a particular girls services right on her page. They post positive and negative reviews. Want DFK and CIM? Just check her page. Want to see all 150 CIM girls just set the filter. Done right you are guaranteed a good time.

Anyhow point wasn't London is best. I happen to love it. But someone in UK is lucky. I am trying to GET there not get out! It would not surprise me if he doesn't know Diva and other agencies. I am often surprised how little folks know about P6 in their own country.

If u do go peek, dont just view their gallery. They are marketing their higher priced girls. Usually the Reviews section is best cuz it covers whos hot these days. Or choose the from 150 filter. Absolutely no need to pay more than 150. Just gets u a nicer flat IMO.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2550020]Bro, you said to tell them vagabundostransamerica sent you when booking on Airbnb. I couldn't find any transamerica postings on airbnb, what gives?[/QUOTE]Out of curiosity, I looked, and found one listing.

Of course, with AirBnB, one is never sure if guests are allowed in the apartment.

Pernoite 300+indriver.

I did a pernoite with a new prive negra, 18.

She came over at 19 h Saturday, and I sent her on her way at 09 h, Sunday. Fucked three times, Blew two loads, in the latex. I paid her 300, and paid for her cab over from zona norte and back.

I headed down to the pool at Meditarraneo.

The pool is key. One of the main reasons I stay here.

[URL]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DSL[/URL]

DSL is Dick Sucking Lips.

DSLR is a camera. Google DSLR and you get many responses.

OK, let's put that up on the CBS Joke Chalkboard, as Jimmy Tingle a Boston comic used to say.

You're at the pool.

A new hooker from SP (usually) or maybe from Nordeste is looking for some high quality pictures.

You say, I can help you. Whip out your DSLR while looking like a pervert at her DSL's.

You arrange to take some high quality pics of the lass.

She reciprocates by wrapping her DSL's around your dick, and sucking.

Boom. There's the (bad, weak) joke. Back to you Brent.

[QUOTE=TShelby;2550111]Dear Vagabundo1,

Thank you for your posts, I love to read you!

I am going to book in August some night in the Hotel. Transamerica / Medit.

Could you tell me more about the Transamerica Hotel? Tips, girls at the pool, restaurant, bar, party. Anything you can think of for my first time at the Transamerica.

Thank you very much as always!

PD. What is DSLR?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2550180]Out of curiosity, I looked, and found one listing.

Of course, with AirBnB, one is never sure if guests are allowed in the apartment.[/QUOTE]The girls you are going to fuck live there.

[QUOTE=Walshy;2550086]The worse part about that is that it will probably be a mechanical Eastern European girl who rushes you out of the door before your time is up. [/QUOTE]Given that is Steve's recommendation, why do you assume the worst without trying?

[QUOTE=Walshy;2550086]Even from a distance[/QUOTE]

How do you overcome the distance? Take all expenses, airfare, lodging, time, into consideration to compare the price.

Rio de Janeiro early in the 20th century.

Precisely my good man.

Well said.

Look [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue], as Joe Rogan might say.

Here is the move.

OK, we are in a brave new social media world.

So, you go to the pool bar at Transamerica with all your video blogging gear.

And you blog the fuck / zoom / have business meetings / with all your most important contacts.

Because who is not the richest, baddest, most wicked fucking awesome alpha male surrounded by hot Brazilian women who play with sex parts like little kids playing with toys.

And your audience is some 50 year old dude who is "rich" in the "Rich world" (the term the economist uses).

And you, my friend, are now, the dude.

The dude.

I mean, appear in court from he bar at the Transamerica (not legal advice, and maybe not good advice, haha).

[QUOTE=Nounce;2550308]The girls you are going to fuck live there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2549397] . . . Duda freitas is new and 18 yo hot, but she's just a Rio favela girl, . . .[/QUOTE]Just to clarify for those MBs not familiar with Brazilian society/culture. There is a Brazilian saying that goes, [B] "We're from the favela but we're not favelados".[/B]

Meaning: 1. "Favela" - Born/raised in a poorer neighborhood. 2. "Favelado" - Anyone/somebody who acts or exhibits an unruly or undisciplined manner.

Being "favelada", is really more about associating any girl/GDP, (albeit negras, mulatas, brancas, orientais, or indias), with "a really bad attitude".

This hottie upon appearances looks far from being [I]"just a Rio favela girl"[/I]. Sure she may have grown up in a neighborhood considered to be a favela, but this girl looks to be head and shoulders above her humble beginnings and by extension, looks to be raising above her station in life. Good for her, if that's her deal.

If you know of this girl and/or have sessioned with her and she really is "favela/favelada", then I stand corrected.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2549397]... you can get the same thing for prive rates. . . .[/QUOTE]Having said all that, what newbie's (who can't wait to get to Brazil) and MBs should take away from much of your extensive reporting on Rio (if they haven't already), is that hotties like Duda, found on Brazilian Escort websites like [URL] BarraVIPs.com [/URL], can also be found at various other venues, like Hotel Transamerica, prives, boites and termas.

Caveat being, "that timing is everything" and hotties like Duda typically don't last long at certain venues, at a different price points, where their value maybe under appreciated.

Although I personally prefer the "old school" brick-and-mortar approach, given the times we're in and the widening P4P possibilities and choices now on the web, it behooves us to adapt as the P4P situation unfolds and benefits us differently, each individually.

TIP: The Brazilian phrase "Favela Chic", is cool to use, though.

Yes I've fucked Duda bare in all her holes pernoite but she lives in the building and it's weird because she lives with her boyfriend and a trans.

She is months out of a favela.

For same quality go to Onix / Livia which johnny walker recommended or Rihanna noir which I found at t31.

Literally dozens same as Duda every day and night.

It's Rio.

You have to be here.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2550347]Just to clarify for those MBs not familiar with Brazilian society/culture. There is a Brazilian saying that goes, [B] "We're from the favela but we're not favelados".[/B]

Meaning: 1. "Favela" - Born/raised in a poorer neighborhood. 2. "Favelado" - Anyone/somebody who acts or exhibits an unruly or undisciplined manner.

Being "favelada", is really more about associating any girl/GDP, (albeit negras, mulatas, brancas, orientais, or indias), with "a really bad attitude".

This hottie upon appearances looks far from being [I]"just a Rio favela girl"[/I]. Sure she may have grown up in a neighborhood considered to be a favela, but this girl looks to be head and shoulders above her humble beginnings and by extension, looks to be raising above her station in life. Good for her, if that's her deal.

If you know of this girl and/or have sessioned with her and she really is "favela/favelada", then I stand corrected..[/QUOTE]

"Duda" is well on her way out of the favela at 400 per hour.

But keep the knives locked up and I'd think twice before pernoite.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2550347]Just to clarify for those MBs not familiar with Brazilian society/culture. There is a Brazilian saying that goes, [B] "We're from the favela but we're not favelados".[/B]

Meaning: 1. "Favela" - Born/raised in a poorer neighborhood. 2. "Favelado" - Anyone/somebody who acts or exhibits an unruly or undisciplined manner.

Being "favelada", is really more about associating any girl/GDP, (albeit negras, mulatas, brancas, orientais, or indias), with "a really bad attitude".

This hottie upon appearances looks far from being [I]"just a Rio favela girl"[/I]. Sure she may have grown up in a neighborhood considered to be a favela, but this girl looks to be head and shoulders above her humble beginnings and by extension, looks to be raising above her station in life. Good for her, if that's her deal..[/QUOTE]

Was looking to book a trip to Rio for the first time for memorial day weekend for my birthday. Will probably stay there a whole week. I just seen a round trip flight from New York to Rio for $250 bucks with Latam airlines. Can anybody vouch for this airlines. I'm a taller guy so are there seats as bad as spirit. Also I'm a read through the board and see where to stay. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2550340]Rio de Janeiro early in the 20th century.[/QUOTE]It's a pity that so much of old Rio is gone. I believe much of it was erased in Brazil's (as well as the rest of the world) March into modernism in the 50's and 60's.

[QUOTE=CkNice11;2550408]Was looking to book a trip to Rio for the first time for memorial day weekend for my birthday. Will probably stay there a whole week. I just seen a round trip flight from New York to Rio for $250 bucks with Latam airlines. Can anybody vouch for this airlines. I'm a taller guy so are there seats as bad as spirit. Also I'm a read through the board and see where to stay. Any advice is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I never flew Latam air but I recently bought a ticket from them. After you buy the ticket you have to pick your seat, of course the better the seat the more the money. Select a seat with more leg room it shouldn't be that much more.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2550340]Rio de Janeiro early in the 20th century.[/QUOTE]I guess they exposed the Copacabana film backwards when they printed it. But with the miracle of modern cell phones, I have fixed it for them.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2550591]I never flew Latam air but I recently bought a ticket from them. After you buy the ticket you have to pick your seat, of course the better the seat the more the money. Select a seat with more leg room it shouldn't be that much more.[/QUOTE]I actually flew LatAm from JFK GRU in December non stop direct. First time flying with them and it was pretty good. Cannot complain. I actually jumped on that rio ticket from JFK. 290 $ RT with latam cannot beat that. Landing in rio 4/29 who want to link up lmk. Will be second time in rio and third time in Brasil.

Ready Players 1, 2, 3.

I was sitting at breakfast, having an omlette, with my boxing heavy bag in my ruck getting ready to PT.

I spied a amigo with a bombeiros shorts and a vasco shirt.

He came up and said, "Vagabundo?

I said I am.

He and player 3 came down.

We caught a uber to centro, Treze de Maio 33.

We cleared from top to bottom.

Highlight was Nicole at 2106, what a tight pussy.

Nicole was banged by Player 2.

I had made an appointment at Onix with Livia, who was recommended by Johnny Walker.

I did in fact bang Livia at 13 h. Player 2 and Player 3 paid, which was nice.

I lead the patrol of me and player 2 and 3 over to Clube 116, the former Secret Terma.

We marked talent, namely Daniela, at 15 h.

We bought some PPE at a store in marachael strasse, then at casa de bombeiros. We picked up more lifeguard local cloths, and Player 3 was already wearing a bombeiro shirt because I had recommended it.

We formed up a 3 man patrol like the buddies in The two deaths of quincas water-bray by jorge amado.

We headed back to TDM33 where I proceeded to bang nicole. OMFG.

What a tight pussy, and the latex kinda slipped off as I finished, so I creamed pied her tight pussy. She had huge tits for such a small frame.

Player 2 and I are thus eskimo brothers.

Then we headed over to Club 116, where Player 3 banged Cereja, who is a morena as hot as Monica mattos, and player banged Daniela. Cereja is top in my list of pernoites, and I had banged her before. Her ass is a work of art. She is from meier. I am in love with her ass. I shall anally fuck her often and with no mercy.

I am such a vagabundo that I get my wingmen laid.

So, Ready Player 1 2 3 is this plotline.

You drop into Rio as a Russian intel agent, or an Israeli, and your mission is to recruit Rio hookers to win world war 4.

[QUOTE=CkNice11;2550408]Was looking to book a trip to Rio for the first time for memorial day weekend for my birthday. Will probably stay there a whole week. I just seen a roun d trip flight from New York to Rio for $250 bucks with Latam airlines. Can anybody vouch for this airlines. I'm a taller guy so are there seats as bad as spirit. Also I'm a read through the board and see where to stay. Any advice is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]No, the seats are nothing like Spirit, and you'll get at least 31" pitch. I've flown them quite a few times including from / to JFK. It's an average airline on the par with AA. By that I mean that the seats are probably tired, the food is shit, and the FAs are indifferent, but who cares! You're flying through the night anyway, so try to get some sleep. $250 RT is an absolute steal.

Here is the tip. I presume you're flying via GRU (LATAM doesn't fly nonstop to Rio from JFK AFAIK). So if you have a long layover in Sao Paulo, try to get a ticket agent to put you on the next available flight. Doesn't cost anything to ask, and you might be able to start partying early.

Hello guys,

I need your help please. I am a 20 year old from America who is planning on traveling to Brazil to hook up with escorts. Do you have any recommendations for places to visit in Brazil such as night scene clubs or bars? Also how reliable would you say escort websites are? I've been browsing through women on the photoprepagnos website and there's numerous amount of women on there I would like to meetup with that also offer BBBJ. Are the women online like their pictures?

AirBnB question: how to know if your AirBnB rental is girl friendly before you rent?

I am looking at renting at the TransAmerica building, but don't want to get stuck in a monastery.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2550930]AirBnB question: how to know if your AirBnB rental is girl friendly before you rent?

I am looking at renting at the TransAmerica building, but don't want to get stuck in a monastery.[/QUOTE]You can ask the owner if it is allowed to have guests in the apartment, I did it before in Cancun one said no and another owner told me no problem.

[QUOTE=VloneCartii;2550895]Hello guys,

I need your help please. I am a 20 year old from America who is planning on traveling to Brazil to hook up with escorts. Do you have any recommendations for places to visit in Brazil such as night scene clubs or bars? Also how reliable would you say escort websites are? I've been browsing through women on the photoprepagnos website and there's numerous amount of women on there I would like to meetup with that also offer BBBJ. Are the women online like their pictures?[/QUOTE]Here are few for you. Where are you from in America? Inner city? Suburbia? Your mother's basement?

When you say hook up with escorts, do you mean you have a hook or are you looking for escorts with hooks? If so, will you require two hooks? No judgement. Just asking.

As for visiting places, there are clubs and bars and clubs with bars, do you have a definite preference? Do suggest, however, that you avoid bars with clubs.

The reliability of the escort websites depends largely on their internet provider and hosting plan. Some are always up, others, up and down.

Do you have a link for photoprepagnos? Are you thinking of ordering a certain amount of women? You do know Brazil uses the metric system, right? You order by the kilo rather than pound.

The women are like their pictures, except most are a bit more lifelike.

Keep the questions coming. We are here to serve.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2550717]Here is the tip. I presume you're flying via GRU (LATAM doesn't fly nonstop to Rio from JFK AFAIK). So if you have a long layover in Sao Paulo, try to get a ticket agent to put you on the next available flight. Doesn't cost anything to ask, and you might be able to start partying early.[/QUOTE]I'm coming down in May on LATAM, Miami to Rio (SDU) with a 2 HR layover in Sao Paulo (GRU). My question to anyone who might've done this route, is the 2 hrs enough to be processed by immigration or with the COVID, etc will it be cutting it close? It's at 5:30 am-7:30 am so I'm hoping traffic will be light and we go through quick. I've missed similar connector flights flying in to Mexico and Colombia so I know it doesn't always go as planned. Anyone have experience?

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2551025]I'm coming down in May on LATAM, Miami to Rio (SDU) with a 2 HR layover in Sao Paulo (GRU). My question to anyone who might've done this route, is the 2 hrs enough to be processed by immigration or with the COVID, etc will it be cutting it close? It's at 5:30 am-7:30 am so I'm hoping traffic will be light and we go through quick. I've missed similar connector flights flying in to Mexico and Colombia so I know it doesn't always go as planned. Anyone have experience?[/QUOTE]A lazy search (type GRU to SDU into your search engine) will show there are many flights between GRU and SDU just as there would be between any two major US cities.

We went to VM on Monday night / Tuesday morning at 01 h30.

There were about 30% the normal girls.

I picked a negra, and did a half hour for 65 r.

As usual the giving of change caused major headache.

My wingmen did not session, but they returned on Tuesday and reported getting numbers of 5 18-19 year old negras and mulatas and morenas, per the recommended procedure at VM by Sperto and others to go at 14 h.

Fresh out of zona norte.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2550383]"Duda" is well on her way out of the favela at 400 per hour.

But keep the knives locked up and I'd think twice before pernoite.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2551147]We went to VM on Monday night / Tuesday morning at 01 h30.

There were about 30% the normal girls.

I picked a negra, and did a half hour for 65 r.

As usual the giving of change caused major headache.

My wingmen did not session, but they returned on Tuesday and reported getting numbers of 5 18-19 year old negras and mulatas and morenas, per the recommended procedure at VM by Sperto and others to go at 14 h.[/QUOTE]I know you like the negras, but are there any brancas and morenas working in VM? If so, what's the rough percentage?

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2551142]A lazy search (type GRU to SDU into your search engine) will show there are many flights between GRU and SDU just as there would be between any two major US cities.[/QUOTE]Exec Talent,

I know how to book a flight using the Internet. I was just trying to gauge the probability of whether it would be necessary. Thanks anyways.

A few years ago while watching Monday night football at Mabs, I met a guy from California. He told me whenever he called an escort over, he would never give his room number in the hotel, instead he would tell the girl to call him when she got to the hotel because "he would have to go down to the lobby to register her". He used to sit in the lobby reading the paper or watching TV (he said the lobby was always fairly busy with people talking, eating or checking in).

He would keep an eye for for any girl who entered the hotel and watched as they either went to the desk or made a phone call. If his phone vibrated, he knew his date had arrived. If she wasn't the girl in the picture or if she was 5 years older /30 pounds heavier, he wouldn't answer the phone. If it was the girl in the picture, he would approach her and just walk to the elevator, she didn't have to register.

He never used his own picture or his real name in his whatsapp profile. He explained that he averaged about 50/50 with the girl looking like her picture. He said the main reason why he did this process was to minimize the girls causing a scene when he turned her away and also prevent having to pay a "cancelation fee".

Very good tradecraft.

At the end of the day, you are a target of a kind of junior league counterintel / shakedown.

The girl gets your name, she can file a lawsuit or criminal complaint, then you are paying her 300 minimum if you're lucky with her police friends taking a little for the trouble.

Like Warren Zevon once wrote so eloquently.

I went home with a waitress.

The way I always do.

How was I to know.

She was with the Russians too.

Send lawyers guns and money.

The shit has hit the fan.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2551198]A few years ago while watching Monday night football at Mabs, I met a guy from California. He told me whenever he called an escort over, he would never give his room number in the hotel, instead he would tell the girl to call him when she got to the hotel because "he would have to go down to the lobby to register her". He used to sit in the lobby reading the paper or watching TV (he said the lobby was always fairly busy with people talking, eating or checking in).

He would keep an eye for for any girl who entered the hotel and watched as they either went to the desk or made a phone call. If his phone vibrated, he knew his date had arrived. If she wasn't the girl in the picture or if she was 5 years older /30 pounds heavier, he wouldn't answer the phone. If it was the girl in the picture, he would approach her and just walk to the elevator, she didn't have to register.

He never used his own picture or his real name in his whatsapp profile. He explained that he averaged about 50/50 with the girl looking like her picture. He said the main reason why he did this process was to minimize the girls causing a scene when he turned her away and also prevent having to pay a "cancelation fee".[/QUOTE]

A lot of talk about how to screen.

I recommend using [URL]GPArena.net[/URL].

You can create a user (may have to use a VPN out of Brazil) (FWIW, You can ask a friend in Brazil to get on a real time conference with you and register a whatsapp number, now how's that for a protip!

Every day, the locals are all over the ass and tits like hungry people at the grocery store.

For example, there is Amora who was at 2414.

I banged her 18 yo pussy two weeks ago and overnighted with her last Saturday.

She's hot.

But there are 4-6 girls in Treze de maio alone who are in the same league, and you could have found Amora on gparena.

As I mentioned, GPguia should be used for all of Brazil, but for us cariocas (carioca the gema, kkk), GParena is top shelf.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2551172]Exec Talent,

I know how to book a flight using the Internet. I was just trying to gauge the probability of whether it would be necessary. Thanks anyways.[/QUOTE]Given the number of flights between GRU and SDU, even if you missed your original flight due to a delay, the wait for the next flight would not be long. One of the things, of which, a seasoned traveler, flying anywhere should be aware is flight schedules. If you cannot avoid risk, find ways to mitigate it. So, instead of worrying about the delay, you are in control of the situation, instead of the other way around.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2551198]A few years ago while watching Monday night football at Mabs, I met a guy from California. He told me whenever he called an escort over, he would never give his room number in the hotel, instead he would tell the girl to call him when she got to the hotel because "he would have to go down to the lobby to register her". He used to sit in the lobby reading the paper or watching TV (he said the lobby was always fairly busy with people talking, eating or checking in).

He would keep an eye for for any girl who entered the hotel and watched as they either went to the desk or made a phone call. If his phone vibrated, he knew his date had arrived. If she wasn't the girl in the picture or if she was 5 years older /30 pounds heavier, he wouldn't answer the phone. If it was the girl in the picture, he would approach her and just walk to the elevator, she didn't have to register.

He never used his own picture or his real name in his whatsapp profile. He explained that he averaged about 50/50 with the girl looking like her picture. He said the main reason why he did this process was to minimize the girls causing a scene when he turned her away and also prevent having to pay a "cancelation fee".[/QUOTE]I have done this around the world when I was staying for short times. I can definitely see how this could bite you in the butt if you are staying at the same hotel often or longer periods and one of the staff catches on. All they would have to do is tell the girl you blew off and the game is over. There used to be a guy who had multiple locks on his door and surveillance cameras everywhere because he pissed off the wrong favelada (s). He was fond of taking pictures and posting them on the internet. Once I passed a guy on the stairs in a favela and jokingly said, what's in the box? It looked about the size that would hold a rifle. He said, in a threatening tone, mind you own business. In Brazil, it does not pay to be too clever.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2551213]A lot of talk about how to screen.

I recommend using [URL]GPArena.net[/URL].

You can create a user (may have to use a VPN out of Brazil) (FWIW, You can ask a friend in Brazil to get on a real time conference with you and register a whatsapp number, now how's that for a protip!

[/QUOTE]Yep. Gparena is fantastic. Gpgia might be good for SP, but I've found their Rio section lacking.

If a dozen or more local mongers recommend the same gal, what are the odds they 're all wrong?

Even without participating in their forum. The monkey see monkey do approach should work.

I intend to use their reviews heavily when on the ground. Of course, when I actually find myself in Rio my organizational skills often fly out the window, and I go for whoever whenever, LOL.

But seriously, following their breadcrumbs might be just the right strategy for avoiding disappointments with unknown actors.

It always cracks me up when people complain about fotoprepagos or milerotica. They are just advertisement engines. Anyone can post anything there, it's your problem if you approach those sites without due diligence (as I have regrettably on more than one occasion, LOL).

[QUOTE=Bravo;2551198]A few years ago while watching Monday night football at Mabs, I met a guy from California. He told me whenever he called an escort over, he would never give his room number in the hotel, instead he would tell the girl to call him when she got to the hotel because "he would have to go down to the lobby to register her". He used to sit in the lobby reading the paper or watching TV (he said the lobby was always fairly busy with people talking, eating or checking in).

He would keep an eye for for any girl who entered the hotel and watched as they either went to the desk or made a phone call. If his phone vibrated, he knew his date had arrived. If she wasn't the girl in the picture or if she was 5 years older /30 pounds heavier, he wouldn't answer the phone. If it was the girl in the picture, he would approach her and just walk to the elevator, she didn't have to register.

He never used his own picture or his real name in his whatsapp profile. He explained that he averaged about 50/50 with the girl looking like her picture. He said the main reason why he did this process was to minimize the girls causing a scene when he turned her away and also prevent having to pay a "cancelation fee".[/QUOTE]Great tip. I will definitely use this.

You could start here to get your bearing.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4138-Rio-de-Janeiro-Map[/URL]

[QUOTE=VloneCartii;2550895]Hello guys,

I need your help please. I am a 20 year old from America who is planning on traveling to Brazil to hook up with escorts. Do you have any recommendations for places to visit in Brazil such as night scene clubs or bars? Also how reliable would you say escort websites are? I've been browsing through women on the photoprepagnos website and there's numerous amount of women on there I would like to meetup with that also offer BBBJ. Are the women online like their pictures?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;2551198]

He would keep an eye for for any girl who entered the hotel and watched as they either went to the desk or made a phone call. If his phone vibrated, he knew his date had arrived. If she wasn't the girl in the picture or if she was 5 years older /30 pounds heavier, he wouldn't answer the phone. If it was the girl in the picture, he would approach her and just walk to the elevator, she didn't have to register.
.[/QUOTE]I used to do something similar. I used to stay in an apartment on Rua Santa Clara. Right next door to the apartment was a restaurant / bar I would get the front table right next to the building front door and wait for the escort to show up but this was during the days when Escort companies like 'CIA' or 'Company girl' were in business. So when the taxi would pull up and a young girl would get out I would call her over and have her sit with me for a minute. I only turned back 2 and told them they just weren't my type and gave them taxi fare so there are no hard feelings. I wouldn't ditch them but maybe ones who lied about their pictures deserve that.

Today I only deal with Hotside or BarraVip and girls don't really lie about their pictures because they are independents and pay a lot of money to get a professional photographer shoot and to advertise on those sites. They need to be upfront and real so they can make the money and they ask for good money too. These other sites like photoaccompiants are probably very cheap to advertise and the pics don't look professional so there is no real commitment to doing straight business, I won't waste my time.

OK guys rookie question here.

I usually do my travels in east Asia but due to the current bans, I've decided to take a trip down south. I'm looking at either Costa Rica or Rio. Costa Rica is 500 dollars cheaper (for flight and hotel) but Rio looks like more fun.

A little about me, I'm 30, I like to party and also experience culture so it's more than just meeting girls.

Any advice on on which location? Also general Info on what to expect is appreciated. Thanks fellas.

So I normally travel in east Asia but due to the current travel restrictions, I've decided to head down south. I'm looking at either San Jose CR or Rio de Janero. Rio is 500 dollars more (flight and hotel package) but oooks more lively and fun. I'm 30 years old so I will be partying and having fun outside of just meet ups. Looking for recommendations on which location to pick. Also any additional information on the differences between the two would be great. Thanks fellas.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2551198]A few years ago while watching Monday night football at Mabs, I met a guy from California. He told me whenever he called an escort over, he would never give his room number in the hotel, instead he would tell the girl to call him when she got to the hotel because "he would have to go down to the lobby to register her". He used to sit in the lobby reading the paper or watching TV (he said the lobby was always fairly busy with people talking, eating or checking in).

He would keep an eye for for any girl who entered the hotel and watched as they either went to the desk or made a phone call. If his phone vibrated, he knew his date had arrived. If she wasn't the girl in the picture or if she was 5 years older /30 pounds heavier, he wouldn't answer the phone. If it was the girl in the picture, he would approach her and just walk to the elevator, she didn't have to register.

He never used his own picture or his real name in his whatsapp profile. He explained that he averaged about 50/50 with the girl looking like her picture. He said the main reason why he did this process was to minimize the girls causing a scene when he turned her away and also prevent having to pay a "cancelation fee".[/QUOTE]I did something similar once in Colombia. I sat in the hotel lobby and waited, only the lobby actually wasn't that crowded. When the woman got there, she actually approached me and asked if I was the one. I said "no", then she looked around kind of confused, and promptly went off in another direction. I got up and caught the elevator back up to my room. Never heard a word from her fugly ass again. Perfect!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2551198]A few years ago while watching Monday night football at Mabs, I met a guy from California. He told me whenever he called an escort over, he would never give his room number in the hotel, instead he would tell the girl to call him when she got to the hotel because "he would have to go down to the lobby to register her". He used to sit in the lobby reading the paper or watching TV (he said the lobby was always fairly busy with people talking, eating or checking in).

He would keep an eye for for any girl who entered the hotel and watched as they either went to the desk or made a phone call. If his phone vibrated, he knew his date had arrived. If she wasn't the girl in the picture or if she was 5 years older /30 pounds heavier, he wouldn't answer the phone. If it was the girl in the picture, he would approach her and just walk to the elevator, she didn't have to register.

He never used his own picture or his real name in his whatsapp profile. He explained that he averaged about 50/50 with the girl looking like her picture. He said the main reason why he did this process was to minimize the girls causing a scene when he turned her away and also prevent having to pay a "cancelation fee".[/QUOTE]That is too much work. If you want to verify if a girl is using real photos. Just do this simple tip: Make her write your name on a piece of paper and have her take a photo with the paper with your name on it. Most girls would not mind doing that. If she declines it usually means she is using fake pics. Also you can Google there phone number, most escorts have a social media / Twitter account (especially because of Covid) so try to search for her recent photos she posted.

[QUOTE=WarrenFahy1991;2551512]So I normally travel in east Asia but due to the current travel restrictions, I've decided to head down south. I'm looking at either San Jose CR or Rio de Janero. Rio is 500 dollars more (flight and hotel package) but oooks more lively and fun. I'm 30 years old so I will be partying and having fun outside of just meet ups. Looking for recommendations on which location to pick. Also any additional information on the differences between the two would be great. Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Let me put it this way. I used to go to Costa Rica all the time. But after I went to Brazil that first time? I never returned to Costa Rica ever again! Read the Reports of Distinction to find out why.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2551464]I fucked a dark dark negra noemie bilas bare in her negra negra negra pussy while smoking ganjah out on the window overlooking the street, and throwing used condoms out if that was you on the street, I am not sorry, haha.
[/QUOTE]You threw your used condoms at people?

Not at people, just out the window, and there were people in the street because there was music.

We were also smoking ganja.

It was like fuck it.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2551571]You threw your used condoms at people?[/QUOTE]

Ok guys, what's the 411? Curfew is over for a few days, is everything back to normal? Termas, prives, clubs, restaurants, beach all back open?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2551702]Ok guys, what's the 411? Curfew is over for a few days, is everything back to normal? Termas, prives, clubs, restaurants, beach all back open?[/QUOTE]Only in your sweet dreams. Restrictions are extended until 27 of April.

[URL]https://www.jb.com.br/acervo/2021/04/1029603-rio-de-janeiro-prorroga-medidas-restritivas-ate-27-de-abril.html[/URL]

Players 1, 2, 3 have been finding that.

The centro prives, IE, TDM33, RB156, are open. Call ahead, reference [URL]GParena.net[/URL] as discussed.

The trash termas, eg Club 116, are open, and probably the bigger ones like 4 x4 are too.

(Just don't stand on the street, haha).

The freelancers and prive girls are attending at the love motels.

Most of the stores are open, eg, the pharma store at barra garden that was closed during the hard core lock down at end of March beginning of April is open, and BTW, the best place to buy ED drugs for that hour long hard on.

Players 2 an 3 are readers but not writers on this board, and are good wingmen as we all walk around as a group of 3 in bombeiros civil / guarda do piscina / grupo maritimo gear. It is cool and fun, and good exercise.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2551702]Ok guys, what's the 411? Curfew is over for a few days, is everything back to normal? Termas, prives, clubs, restaurants, beach all back open?[/QUOTE]

Writing on their forums is not recommended.

Unless your Porto is native quality.

They will pick apart your every word, and mark you as a estrangeiro and maybe cancel your account.

The culture of the novella demands written history of debauchery, in contrast to the puritanical culture in North America.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2551344]Yep. Gparena is fantastic. Gpgia might be good for SP, but I've found their Rio section lacking.

If a dozen or more local mongers recommend the same gal, what are the odds they 're all wrong?

Even without participating in their forum. The monkey see monkey do approach should work.

I intend to use their reviews heavily when on the ground. Of course, when I actually find myself in Rio my organizational skills often fly out the window, and I go for whoever whenever, LOL.

But seriously, following their breadcrumbs might be just the right strategy for avoiding disappointments with unknown actors.

It always cracks me up when people complain about fotoprepagos or milerotica. They are just advertisement engines. Anyone can post anything there, it's your problem if you approach those sites without due diligence (as I have regrettably on more than one occasion, LOL).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2551344]Yep. Gparena is fantastic. Gpgia might be good for SP, but I've found their Rio section lacking.

If a dozen or more local mongers recommend the same gal, what are the odds they 're all wrong?

Even without participating in their forum. The monkey see monkey do approach should work.

I intend to use their reviews heavily when on the ground. Of course, when I actually find myself in Rio my organizational skills often fly out the window, and I go for whoever whenever, LOL.

But seriously, following their breadcrumbs might be just the right strategy for avoiding disappointments with unknown actors.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's foolish to think your going to drop in for a few days and find that new, young starlet. As you said, just follow the breadcrumbs and go with the well-known girls "where many man has gone before". LOL.

I would add don't be fooled by beautiful photos and a series of reviews from reviewers with one or two reviews. Gpguia does a pretty good job of flagging these girls and providing warnings, but there can be a delay. One guy here accused Gpguia moderators of erasing bad reviews in exchange for sex. Who knows if this is true? It's a bit like Tripadvisor who notoriously doesn't regulate its reviews look for reviewers with a long body of work and critical analysis.

[QUOTE=WarrenFahy1991;2551506]OK guys rookie question here.

I usually do my travels in east Asia but due to the current bans, I've decided to take a trip down south. I'm looking at either Costa Rica or Rio. Costa Rica is 500 dollars cheaper (for flight and hotel) but Rio looks like more fun.

A little about me, I'm 30, I like to party and also experience culture so it's more than just meeting girls.

Any advice on on which location? Also general Info on what to expect is appreciated. Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Quick answer: Go to Rio.

Rio is far more cosmopolitan. The working girls are hotter and as has been said over and over again far more sexual. The food is better. The beaches are better (and sexier) and right out your door. No long bus trip or car rental to get to Jaco Beach. I also recommend a day or two of Rio sightseeing for newbies. If you are 30, you might try your hand at clubbing or the famous street parties in Rio.

There are some nice working girls in CR. However, there are many girls who come to Costa Rica from Central America, Colombia and the DR to make a quick buck who don't give a shit about pleasing their male sponsors. Gambling is about the only thing where CR has an advantage. If you enjoy gambling, I would suggest you prioritize that on a separate vacation.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2551794]Yes, it's foolish to think your going to drop in for a few days and find that new, young starlet. As you said, just follow the breadcrumbs and go with the well-known girls "where many man has gone before". LOL.

I would add don't be fooled by beautiful photos and a series of reviews from reviewers with one or two reviews. Gpguia does a pretty good job of flagging these girls and providing warnings, but there can be a delay.[/QUOTE]Excellent point! There are plenty of active users so ignoring new reviewers shouldn't be too hard.

[QUOTE=WarrenFahy1991;2551506]OK guys rookie question here.

I usually do my travels in east Asia but due to the current bans, I've decided to take a trip down south. I'm looking at either Costa Rica or Rio. Costa Rica is 500 dollars cheaper (for flight and hotel) but Rio looks like more fun.[/QUOTE]CR is a sub-standard mongering destination with only two hotspots: Hotel Cocal Casino in Jaco and Hotel Del Rey in San Jose. Jaco has the hotter girls, lots of Colombians-but they are all pretty expensive-comparable to Panama City-and almost none but the most skanky will do BBBJ which is a deal breaker for me. San Jose girls are a little dirtier but not too many lookers in the bunch. Both locations are convenient because you can rent and bang under one roof and as a result can really let it rip- but there's not really much else to do unless you like gambling. Its fun for a 4 or 5 day trip but not much more.

Yep, I've known girls who are clearly positively and negatively coerced by the admins of local forums, specifically forumx.

Girls who are 18-21, who have nothing to sell but their holes, and the mature view is that being a GDP is just being a proctologist.

Like everything, there are "network effects" at work.

There is almost always one big winner and in the Rio market for online info about sex work, the winner now is gparena.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2551794]Yes, it's foolish to think your going to drop in for a few days and find that new, young starlet. As you said, just follow the breadcrumbs and go with the well-known girls "where many man has gone before". LOL.

I would add don't be fooled by beautiful photos and a series of reviews from reviewers with one or two reviews. Gpguia does a pretty good job of flagging these girls and providing warnings, but there can be a delay. One guy here accused Gpguia moderators of erasing bad reviews in exchange for sex. Who knows if this is true? It's a bit like Tripadvisor who notoriously doesn't regulate its reviews look for reviewers with a long body of work and critical analysis.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2551913]CR is a sub-standard mongering destination with only two hotspots: Hotel Cocal Casino in Jaco and Hotel Del Rey in San Jose. Jaco has the hotter girls, lots of Colombians-but they are all pretty expensive-comparable to Panama City-and almost none but the most skanky will do BBBJ which is a deal breaker for me. San Jose girls are a little dirtier but not too many lookers in the bunch. Both locations are convenient because you can rent and bang under one roof and as a result can really let it rip- but there's not really much else to do unless you like gambling. Its fun for a 4 or 5 day trip but not much more.[/QUOTE]The Hotel del Rey has closed I understand. The new main joint in San Jose has moved to a new place that also has a casino (don't recall the name but check the Costa Rica threads). And there were and are always more than two options. There was the Sportsmen Lodge (don't know if it's still around). The strip joints with some real hotties available for takeout. And there were a handful of other places around that I tried. But after you had been to San Jose a few times, it wasn't very interesting. And the service level from the girls (mostly Colombian) simply wasn't up to par with what was available standard in Brazil or in Germany. Costa Rica is an easy introduction to mongering for noobs. Been there, done that.

I'm planning on coming backing to Brazil in either August or September (if things cool down and the lockdowns are gone).

Is there any national or local festivals or holidays that can interfere with seeing girls around those months? I read on the forums when Easter weekend came recently that most of the girls were out and not working so I want to avoid something like that.

I'm coming with a buddy and want to show him all the SP and Rio have to offer!

I will be posting this on the SP Forum too since different cities can have different festivals and stuff like that so sorry to post it twice but I just want to make sure. Thanks you guys are really helpful and it's much appreciated!

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2552208]I'm planning on coming backing to Brazil in either August or September (if things cool down and the lockdowns are gone).

Is there any national or local festivals or holidays that can interfere with seeing girls around those months? I read on the forums when Easter weekend came recently that most of the girls were out and not working so I want to avoid something like that.

I'm coming with a buddy and want to show him all the SP and Rio have to offer!

I will be posting this on the SP Forum too since different cities can have different festivals and stuff like that so sorry to post it twice but I just want to make sure. Thanks you guys are really helpful and it's much appreciated![/QUOTE]I know they cancelled Rock in Rio for 2021, which is usually held in September / October. Hard to say what things will be like in Aug / Sept. Reports I am getting from locals is that things are really not good at the moment.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2552208]I'm planning on coming backing to Brazil in either August or September (if things cool down and the lockdowns are gone).

Is there any national or local festivals or holidays that can interfere with seeing girls around those months? I read on the forums when Easter weekend came recently that most of the girls were out and not working so I want to avoid something like that.

I'm coming with a buddy and want to show him all the SP and Rio have to offer!

I will be posting this on the SP Forum too since different cities can have different festivals and stuff like that so sorry to post it twice but I just want to make sure. Thanks you guys are really helpful and it's much appreciated![/QUOTE]The big holiday during this time would be September 7th their independence day. Other then that I don't see anything from a google search. This timeframe would also be the cooler months which would be OK for some.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2552359]The big holiday during this time would be September 7th their independence day. Other then that I don't see anything from a google search. This timeframe would also be the cooler months which would be OK for some.[/QUOTE]Thanks Rio Bob! I was aiming for August anyways but it would be cool to see how they celebrate their independence day as well so might look into that! Hopefully things get better by then since the dollar is stronger for exchange rate and looks like since most girls haven't been able to go to the clubs and termas and travel has slowed it's a buyers market!

Also it's such a beautiful country with really great people it's really a shame to see it suffer the way it is and hears hoping things get better for everyone everywhere 🙌.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2552384]Thanks Rio Bob! I was aiming for August anyways but it would be cool to see how they celebrate their independence day as well so might look into that! Hopefully things get better by then since the dollar is stronger for exchange rate and looks like since most girls haven't been able to go to the clubs and termas and travel has slowed it's a buyers market!

Also it's such a beautiful country with really great people it's really a shame to see it suffer the way it is and hears hoping things get better for everyone everywhere 🙌.[/QUOTE]They also celebrate Independence day in New York and New Jersey on different days but it's all about September 7th if you're near those parts.

[QUOTE=HKS11;2552354]I know they cancelled Rock in Rio for 2021, which is usually held in September / October. Hard to say what things will be like in Aug / Sept. Reports I am getting from locals is that things are really not good at the moment.[/QUOTE]Damn it's been wild in Brazil.

I came in January and even when I was there it was a bit uneasy. The tvs in the termas had the news on all the time and each time I came it was always bad news. Was risky to go in the first place as other users cancelled their flights. I had a good time and was lucky to have nothing come upon me.

Hopefully 4 months can do a lot of good for everyone in Brazil!

Ready Players 1, 2, 3 - week in baseball.

Player 3 may be leaving. It would be too bad, we enjoy patrolling together.

Last night I banged in the Motel Serrano a old favorite, a porn star from Sao Paulo, which I promised myself never to return to because it does not have a beach.

I picked her up at Copacabana Palace.

We ubered over to Serrano in Largo do Machado.

I love this old motel, where I have had so many good times.

We fucked doggy style, with her offering up her morena ass, then in frango assado.

We moved to the bathroom, where we drew a bath, and she sucked my dick, then she sat on my dick, impaling her asshole on my dick, the highlight of the night.

Then we went back to the bed, fucked again.

The streets are empty, in a nice way.

Largo do Machado is a lovely little carioca the gema neighborhood, like Botafogo.

Much as I hate Copacabana, I love Largo do Machado.

Not surprisingly, she did not actually live at Copa palace, so I ubered her to her centro hotel, and then ubered back to Barra.

On the prior Thursday, 3 days ago now as I write on Monday, I had fucked a old favorite in Motel Sheik, in Centro.

It was such a good fuck that I was very tired, and I slept well that night.

The last week has been good, mainly due to players 1, 2, 3, but our tres bombeiros, like the three musketeers may be breaking up. The VM patrol we did Saturday night was OK. I actually didn't session since I was still high on the buzz of the quality of the ass I had fucked Thursday. There is always bare on offer there, and at Club 116. The best hotel to stay in centro is Hotel Atlantico Tower, and in Barra it is is Transamerica.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2552591] . . . The best hotel to stay in centro is Hotel Atlantico Tower, and in Barra it is is Transamerica.[/QUOTE]Never stayed at the Hotel Atlntico Avenida, but back-in-the-day, when friends and I would do a [i][b]"Rio Run",[/b][/i] and take a few days or a weekend trip from living in Buzios, we would stay at the near by [b]Hotel São Bento. [/b]

The Hotel São Bento for those who are familiar with the hotel and the Praca Mauá area, know it's more of a "short-time sex" motel than hotel. (Mirrors on the walls, ceilings...kkkk). But it was good value and more than ideal for hobbying in the centro/Praca Mauá area, back then.

Couldn't help but chuckle, every time I saw and heard (due to the thin hotel walls), the numerous Brazilian men "on business", that also used this hotel, as their primary business lodgings. Or the hot MILF from Buzios, I'd bumped into on occasion at the Subway boate, earning some extra cash on weekends, who also stayed at the São Bento. Naturally we'd laugh hysterically together, when saw one another.

Definitely had some memorable sessions at that hotel, with some gems FLs or gem girls from Bar Florida, Scandinavia bar, Filipino Bar, 2nd-Tier termas, boates, or just hanging out at the open-air markets stalls and restaurants, Praca Mauá had to offer.

This "ex-right-light district" area has been gentrified now, and over the past several years, has removed, IMHO, much of the charm and charisma the area once had. Ahhh, yes. . . "Order e Progresso", I guess?

I'm curious to know though, if anyone has any recent reports/updates on the Praca Mauá area?

Porto maravalley.

Is an initiative by. Brazil to make it a entrepreneurship hub.

Of porn! Haha.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2552730]Never stayed at the Hotel Atlntico Avenida, but back-in-the-day, when friends and I would do a [i][b]"Rio Run",[/b][/i] and take a few days or a weekend trip from living in Buzios, we would stay at the near by [b]Hotel So Bento. [/b]

The Hotel So Bento for those who are familiar with the hotel and the Praca Mau area, know it's more of a "short-time sex" motel than hotel. But it was good value and more than ideal for hobbying in the centro/Praca Mau area, back then.

Couldn't help but chuckle, every time I saw (and heard, due to the thin hotel walls) at the numerous Brazilian men "on business", that also used this hotel, as their primary business lodgings. Or the hot MILF from Buzios, I'd bumped into on occasion at the Subway boate, earning some extra cash on weekends, who also stayed at the So Bento. Naturally we'd laugh hysterically together, when saw one another.

Definitely had some memorable sessions at that hotel, with some gems FLs or gem girls from Bar Florida, Scandinavia bar, Filipino Bar, 2nd-Tier termas, boates, or just hanging out at the open-air markets stalls and restaurants, Praca Mau had to offer.

The area has been gentrified now, and over the past several years, has removed, IMHO, much of the charm and charisma the area once had. Ahhh, yes. . . "Order e Progresso", I guess?

I'm curious to know though, if anyone has any recent reports/updates on the Praca Mau area?[/QUOTE]

Porto Maravalley.

[URL]https://blogs.oglobo.globo.com/capital/post/porto-maravalley-o-projeto-que-quer-transformar-o-porto-do-rio-em-polo-de-start-ups.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2552736]Porto maravalley.

Is an initiative by. Brazil to make it a entrepreneurship hub.

Of porn! Haha.[/QUOTE]

Nina DePonca is over.

300 pernoite.

I guess.

I am possibly moving up to a room that is higher tomorrow or end of month.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2552736]Porto maravalley.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2552591] The best hotel to stay in centro is Hotel Atlantico Tower, and in Barra it is is Transamerica.[/QUOTE]Anyone who doesn't need a beach, should consider staying in Centro, IMHO. Good 3. 5-star hotels go for around $20-25 WITH breakfast. I stayed at one of those, called Granada hotel I think, a couple year ago in a very nice one-bedroom suite for like $45. Plus you've got quick and immediate access to millions of cheap Centro fucking venues. Of course, as much as I like downtown Rio I do need the beach, but for a budget-oriented monger who doesn't give a shit, this is a promised land.

Nina De Ponca pernoite 300.

So FLCN comes by last night while Vagabundo is smoking ganja and he starts complaining about emotional issues with the local girls playing him. He's taking off in a month, talking about his girls from solarium, etc. I wonder if its the same MMA girl I've been pernoite. Ing, it probably is.

Ready Player 2 and 3 were great wingmen, as they were young, aggressive, and willing to go for the centro prives at TDM33, RB156, and the trash termas club116 -- which, again, I confirmed with one of the late great departed General's friends is a really, really good terma, and for what, 80 reais for a half hour, which is what, like 16 dollars!

But Player 2 got drafted into some kind of modeling gig.

Player 3 I don't know if he will do well without Player 2.

A rich world gringo will get eaten alive in Rio, as a military man once wrote, a man without friends is truly fucked, or words to that effect.

So Nina comes over yesterday afternoon. We bang, I bang her ass. I bang her pussy. Then we went to lapa to the ganja store on rezende, where I got some normal t-shirts. I was looking for some Hawaiian shirts. Then we had Oswaldo arahna to go. She and I took it back to Transamerica, and then we fucked again. Then we went to sleep, and in the morning fucked again.

300 BRL is less than 60 USD. It is nothing. As the motto of this website says, money is the greatest afrodisiac. The daily pro forma of 280 reais a day (call it 300) that johnny walker talked about was true, and is a good benchmark for sustainable fucking haha.

We few, we happy few, we band of brother mongers for he who mongers with me this day shall be my brother.

Gentlemen now abed in England may think themselves prudent, but will think themselves accursed.

But he who mongers with me in Rio on this day shall be my brother, and will remember with advantages what pussy, ass and mouth he violated this day!

Now and until the ending of the world!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2552736]Porto maravalley.

Is an initiative by. Brazil to make it a entrepreneurship hub.

Of porn! Haha.[/QUOTE]Dare to dream! Dream on...Hmmm...."Porn Hub".

Praca Mauá, as a "Porn Hub", would be a nice nod to its former glory.

But somehow, I think the Prefeitura da Cidade do Rio, had something more puritanical and contemporary in mind, to make Praca Mauá, a vibrant area once again.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2552964]Dare to dream! Dream on...Hmmm...."Porn Hub".

Praca Mauá , as a "Porn Hub", would be a nice nod to its former glory.

But somehow, I think the Prefeitura da Cidade do Rio, had something more puritanical and contemporary in mind, to make Praca Mauá, a vibrant area once again.[/QUOTE]Just to be clear, even though the Praca Mauá area has been gentrified to a fair degree, last I checked and knew of, there was still a small P4P scene located there.

So update anyone on the P4P scene at Praca Mauá?.

Less restrictions in Rio.

[URL]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2021/04/6130060-juiza-suspende-decretos-com-restricoes-contra-a-covid-19.html[/URL]#foto=1.

So I hit 116. SMoking hot new negra, 22 year old, no kids.

45 reais for 10 minutes. Busted a quick nut, and made her laugh with "Te Amoooo Nicole" at the top of my lungs.

Picked up Monique for pernoite. She even played Monique scenes on [URL]evilangel.com[/URL].

Now that's why she's the girlfriend!

Monique and I are going to vidigigal bar do pretinhas tomorrow.

But I can't pick up bitches.

The lifeguard here at Transamerica lives in vidigigal, and he has 3 amigas.

I bet he is the alpha male of the favela.

[URL]https://www.vivalocal.com/acompanhante-erotico/bangu/samatha-de-bangu/213986016[/URL]

That's a hour for 80 reais.

Don't overpay.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2552730] I'm curious to know though, if anyone has any recent reports/updates on the Praca Mau area?[/QUOTE]Nothing happening anymore, hasn't been for a long time. Closet action is T31, MV30, or 03/05 Leandro Martins. Atlantico Tower used to be pretty nice 10+ years ago when it was called Sao Francisco. The green marble facade was unique. It's pretty worn now and could definitely use an update but for $20 USD a night you can't complain. Location is great. I recently stayed at Atlantico Prime on Rua Resende in Lapa and it was considerably nicer. Paid about are $650/ week for a deluxe room. Mostly all Brazilian tourists there. Dark and quiet except on weekend nights when I'd hear a little activity. Guest friendly. About a 10 minute walk to Metro Carioca.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2553515]Nothing happening anymore, hasn't been for a long time. Closet action is T31, MV30, or 03/05 Leandro Martins. Atlantico Tower used to be pretty nice 10+ years ago when it was called Sao Francisco. The green marble facade was unique. It's pretty worn now and could definitely use an update but for $20 USD a night you can't complain. Location is great. I recently stayed at Atlantico Prime on Rua Resende in Lapa and it was considerably nicer. Paid about are $650/ week for a deluxe room. Mostly all Brazilian tourists there. Dark and quiet except on weekend nights when I'd hear a little activity. Guest friendly. About a 10 minute walk to Metro Carioca.[/QUOTE]Seems you have some good information to share. If you get a chance, it would be good to hear more about your experiences and insights.

Monique is in bed next to me.

I banged her at 19 h last night, probalby 4 or 5th time a day, diaria 250 r.

Plust I buy luxury food like the Italian at the barra garden which is superb.

And all the ganja, which of course is huge.

So we do our 2 pernoites.

Good to have all you can fuck 22 yo negra.

Good to mix in with the 200 per hour high end pieces of tail.

Everything seems to be reopening.

Maybe the limited shut down had some positive effect?

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2553515]Nothing happening anymore, hasn't been for a long time. Closet action is T31, MV30, or 03/05 Leandro Martins. Atlantico Tower used to be pretty nice 10+ years ago when it was called Sao Francisco. The green marble facade was unique. It's pretty worn now and could definitely use an update but for $20 USD a night you can't complain. Location is great. I recently stayed at Atlantico Prime on Rua Resende in Lapa and it was considerably nicer. Paid about are $650/ week for a deluxe room. Mostly all Brazilian tourists there. Dark and quiet except on weekend nights when I'd hear a little activity. Guest friendly. About a 10 minute walk to Metro Carioca.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your update and peek into the hotel's past. Yes, I do remember it being called the Hotel Sao Francisco and it was used like my all-time favourite, go to centro hotel, back-in-the-day, the Sao Bento.

Like the Sao Bento, it was located directly across the road from the night club/boate, called Subway. Which had it moments as a great late night pickup joint, for GDPs working the area, FLs, MILFs, business men and the late night office centro crowd/lovers, looking for action.

Definitely some old school good times, back then, in the Praca Mauá area.

All the models predict Covid going down almost every place.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2553674]Monique is in bed next to me.

I banged her at 19 h last night, probalby 4 or 5th time a day, diaria 250 r.

Plust I buy luxury food like the Italian at the barra garden which is superb.

And all the ganja, which of course is huge.

So we do our 2 pernoites.

Good to have all you can fuck 22 yo negra.

Good to mix in with the 200 per hour high end pieces of tail.

Everything seems to be reopening.

Maybe the limited shut down had some positive effect?[/QUOTE]

Rua Rezende.

Across the street is Ganja Coffeeshop.

Weed is a high correlation with every good fuck I have had in Brazil.

On the subject of ganja coffeeshop, they also have great t shirts, etc.

On the subject of what to wear, never go full bombeiro, like the movie says, never go full retard.

A great look is bombeiro gear with ganja coffeeshop t shirts.

Hence, bombeiro maconheiro vagabundo.

Riofornication onward.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2553597]Seems you have some good information to share. If you get a chance, it would be good to hear more about your experiences and insights.[/QUOTE]

Praça Mauá.
"Spidy" makes some bells rings. One of the oldtimers that used to report on various cities in Brazil?

Praça Mauá is history. Florida Bar, Scandinavian Bar, Filippino Bar, Puma hotel and Motel Vitoria Regia Hotel is all history.
Praça Mauá is where you went to get prolonged visa at Polícia Federal. That's the place where you went to buy flags of all the 27 brazilian states, aquarium fishes, Policia Militar T-shirts, stun guns, batons and bombeiro T-shirts. Unliked distinguished senhor Vagabundo I would never wear a bombeiro T-shirt in Brazil, but I do have a collection of T-shirts. One is my BOPE-RJ T-shirt and one is my PM-Bahia T-shirt (given to me from a black PM ex-virgin in Bahia).

A big loss is in Rio is the Filippino Bar. It was one of the must fun places in Rio. Cheap beer and you could put Morango do Nordeste by Lairton ten times over in the jukebox. Scandinavian Bar closing was no loss. Florida Bar was a worse loss than Help. Florida used to have live shows, dildo shows, lots of nude dancers and cheap f*cks. The last time I went upstair it cost me and my friend R$65 for for us bringing 2 girls one stair up. All holes allowed and no time limits. The old condom lady, on f*ck floor, was busy knitting a shirt and she forgot the time. Florida Bar used to get full when there were ships in the harbour. It happened several times that the dancer girls went back home to the apartments, f*cking and never charging anything.

Today Praça Mauá is just Museu do Amanhã.

Since it's a working port there must be sailor bars. In mare? Where?

I tried buying a pm shirt but was denied without ID.

Hotel atlanco tower still gets lot of sailors like 3 Colombian military I went out clubing with last March.

When covid hit they were gone.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2553840]Praa Mau.
"Spidy" makes some bells rings. One of the oldtimers that used to report on various cities in Brazil?

Praa Mau is history. Florida Bar, Scandinavian Bar, Filippino Bar, Puma hotel and Motel Vitoria Regia Hotel is all history.
Praa Mau is where you went to get prolonged visa at Polcia Federal. That's the place where you went to buy flags of all the 27 brazilian states, aquarium fishes, Policia Militar T-shirts, stun guns, batons and bombeiro T-shirts. Unliked distinguished senhor Vagabundo I would never wear a bombeiro T-shirt in Brazil, but I do have a collection of T-shirts. One is my BOPE-RJ T-shirt and one is my PM-Bahia T-shirt (given to me from a black PM ex-virgin in Bahia).

A big loss is in Rio is the Filippino Bar. It was one of the must fun places in Rio. Cheap beer and you could put Morango do Nordeste by Lairton ten times over in the jukebox. Scandinavian Bar closing was no loss. Florida Bar was a worse loss than Help. Florida used to have live shows, dildo shows, lots of nude dancers and cheap f*cks. The last time I went upstair it cost me and my friend R$65 for for us bringing 2 girls one stair up. All holes allowed and no time limits. The old condom lady, on f*ck floor, was busy knitting a shirt and she forgot the time. Florida Bar used to get full when there were ships in the harbour. It happened several times that the dancer girls went back home to the apartments, f*cking and never charging anything.

Today Praa Mau is just Museu do Amanh.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2553869]I tried buying a pm shirt but was denied without ID.[/QUOTE]
In front of 1 Distrito Naval you'll find several shops selling uniforms. It used to be easy to buy PM T-shirt etc. Later it became harder as they insist on ID. I have a friend who recently bought a PM T-shirt after charming the owner.
Original BOPE T-shirt and badges is almost impossible to find if you don't know a BOPE. One of the best gifts I got in Brazil was a BOPE beret with the famous faca na caveira. :)

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2553476][URL]https://www.vivalocal.com/acompanhante-erotico/bangu/samatha-de-bangu/213986016[/URL]
That's a hour for 80 reais.
Don't overpay.[/QUOTE]Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. However, I think that it's very tough to find a sexy, attractive woman with real photos for under are $250/ hour. After hunting around all day you might get lucky in a privie someplace.

I forgot the name.

It was right by the beach.

Supposedly it was shut down to build a "museum of sound. ".

It was a great place to pick up providers.

They even did a "Hitler finds out XXXX club will be closed down" Downfall parody of it.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2554046]I forgot the name. It was right by the beach. Supposedly it was shut down to build a "museum of sound. ". It was a great place to pick up providers. They even did a "Hitler finds out XXXX club will be closed down" Downfall parody of it.[/QUOTE]That was either Barril 8000 or Via Show.

I had Monique over for 3 pernoites / diarias, 250 each for 750 total. 4-5 orgasms a day.

Getting PM gear is not a priority, and may be too aggro for everyday wear. My approach is to throw in one or two bombeiro pieces to look like a off duty guy with a vasco shirt, just for prevention, ie, it makes more sense to wait for a easier target.

Also the bombeiro gear is good quality and very fairly priced.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2553957]In front of 1 Distrito Naval you'll find several shops selling uniforms. It used to be easy to buy PM T-shirt etc. Later it became harder as they insist on ID. I have a friend who recently bought a PM T-shirt after charming the owner.
Original BOPE T-shirt and badges is almost impossible to find if you don't know a BOPE. One of the best gifts I got in Brazil was a BOPE beret with the famous faca na caveira. :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2554049]That was either Barril 8000 or Via Show.[/QUOTE]No. It was more of a disco that did not open until 10 or 11 pm, and there would be hundreds of garotas, some or most "on the program", hanging around outside.

You could have dinner on the tables the restaurants set up outside and check out the talent.

Never went inside, because I would just make my selection and go back to my place.

ETA: It was called "Helpe!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2554051]Getting PM gear is not a priority, and may be too aggro for everyday wear. [/QUOTE]Only a fool would wear a PM T-shirt in Brazil. Dangerous and illegal.

Does anyone know which are the best postos on the beach (Ipanema, Copa) to go to flirt and see the best cariocas?

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2554056]No. It was more of a disco that did not open until 10 or 11 pm, and there would be hundreds of garotas, some or most "on the program", hanging around outside.

You could have dinner on the tables the restaurants set up outside and check out the talent.

Never went inside, because I would just make my selection and go back to my place.

ETA: It was called "Helpe!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/QUOTE]No way! As often as it is mentioned here, how would one know. When did that happen?

Why it seems like just 10 years ago I was dancing the night away with the hottest girls this side of the Nova Iguaçyou Volcano.

Thanks, I didn't know it was illegal but I could have figured that out.

You have to show ID to buy a jacket with police ID in the rich world.

Nina Deponca had warned me about wearing the bombeiro shirts, so I minimized them. But I do wear the ballcap with the guardio do piscina on the theory that they are not going to hang me for wearing a lifeguard cap, and a lifeguard is a actual civil servant, which is protected by the state.

Player 2 and 3 went full bombeiro and were similarly warned by po po but not arrested, and the po po actually complimented player 2 and 3 for wearing that gear. Specifically, tbey said bombeiro civil is better than bombeiro militar, which is what nina deponca said too.

Me and some of my friends did work for BOPE, but those contracts fell aside as they are not looking for non lethal and video recording technology, quite the opposite. Haha.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2554155]Only a fool would wear a PM T-shirt in Brazil. Dangerous and illegal.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-ana-beatriz[/URL]

I saw Ana the other day with Monique. She asked 600, but I offered 400, and I made her eat out Monique for a half hour on a dog leash while I banged her ass and pussy at will. They we double penetrated her with monique wearing a strapon. Monique fisted her for a while and made her orgasm hard since she also had a powerful professional massager jammed up against her big branca clit.

Sara M is back from Cancun. As I said fucking her is like fucking a god damned sex doll that is constantly taking selfies. If you ask her to stop using her cell phone, she pouts protests, and gets into the goza goza goza routine.

I actually hate the barravipsrio girls as a rule. The sweet spot is the trash termas like 116 and VM, getting the best from there, and bringing them back to Transamerica.

Anyone gone to trinidad and sana.

Trindade, Rio de Janeiro.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/1PdRJempw3EXU9NG7[/URL]

Arraial do Sana.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/YDerJRhYeXzhQhMe9[/URL]

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2554056]No. It was more of a disco that did not open until 10 or 11 pm, and there would be hundreds of garotas, some or most "on the program", hanging around outside.

You could have dinner on the tables the restaurants set up outside and check out the talent.

Never went inside, because I would just make my selection and go back to my place.

ETA: It was called "Helpe!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/QUOTE]Help discoteque. Back in the Day.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2554195]Anyone gone to trinidad and sana.
Trindade, Rio de Janeiro.
[/QUOTE]
Trindade is excellent. Nice place to bring a GF. Nice village, good restaurants, beautiful nature and wonderful beaches (lots of good spots for quickies). Make a stop in Paraty on the way.

This is my top choice for a new pernoite queen.

I credit Players 2 and 3 who pulled her from VM.

They left me this as fellow mongers.

A quick question: are the Termas open now?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2554199]Help discoteque. Back in the Day.[/QUOTE]Wow now that pic is a blast from the past. Now may we all observe ten minutes of silence when it closed many years ago.

I was in Rio twice 21 years ago, made 3 two week trips and stayed in a hotel just a few blocks from HELP, oh the memories.

The Tall Man.

"Sperto", just one old timer to another. Although, its tough to report on Brazilian cities, these days, nostalgia can still be very informative.

Yep! Some memorable moments in Praca Mauá. Always remember the Scandinavian Bar, would hustle you for drinks and the girls loved taking advantage of the sailors when they were in town. Filippino Bar had some infamous cat fights over the sailors and the drama in the square at times, never failed to entertain.

Loved being seated in the open-air, at the (24 HR) Florida Restaurant, just outside / next door to Bar Florida, enjoying a cold beer, some Brazilian treats like, "Bolinho de bacalhau" or my favorite "peixe frito com batata fritas e salada" and capping off the night with a dancer / stripper from Bar Florida or a catch at Subway Club at 2 am to 4 am in the morning. Certainly made for an interesting sex-fueled night, back at the Hotel Sao Bento.

[QUOTE=TShelby;2554185]Does anyone know which are the best postos on the beach (Ipanema, Copa) to go to flirt and see the best cariocas?[/QUOTE]Between Posto 9 and 10 always has a lot of hotties. They were mostly civilian girls with an occasional gamer in the mix. The civilian girls are a tough nut to crack for the older guys. Even if you're young and handsome, don't confuse a friendly smile as an invitation to have sex. A few knuckleheads always think Brazilian girls will immediately jump in bed with any foreigner that shows interest.

The Copa beach scene doesn't seems to be as concentrated as back when Hooker Beach was right in front of the Rio Othon Hotel. It's a nice walk down the beach. Smile as you pass the sexy girls. You never know when you will get that welcoming look. The girls on Copa, as a very general rule, come from humbler backgrounds than Ipanema. Although this has become more challenging over the last ten years, someone might be interested in some excitement and a chance to earn some cash.

P.S. I'm not sure how you and your Romani friends will be received there Mr. Shelby.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2554199]Help discoteque. Back in the Day.[/QUOTE]Anyone look familiar? These fotos are from '05-'07.

[URL]http://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=5427[/URL]

The source.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2553476][URL]https://www.vivalocal.com/acompanhante-erotico/bangu/samatha-de-bangu/213986016[/URL]

That's a hour for 80 reais.

Don't overpay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2554402]Anyone look familiar? These fotos are from '05-'07.[/QUOTE]Parte II.

Found some flash drives in an old backpack I used to take to the beach.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2554453][URL]http://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=5427[/URL]

The source.[/QUOTE]She does seem to charge her Gparena clients more, though. And she charges more in her PA ads than in Vivolocal. Something to keep in mind, too, I guess, LOL.

Can anyone on the ground answer definitively?

1. What are the new curfew hours?

2. Indoor dining allowed?

3. Termas in the daytime?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2553765]Thanks for your update and peek into the hotel's past.[/QUOTE]Sure man, no problem. I remember Subway and Sao Bento. I'd pass through there every so often but never pulled anything. I too liked Praca Maua, especially Florida. I stayed at Puma Motel during Carnaval once for cheap when everything in town was sky-high. Had a camarote at Sambadromo for all 3 days. On Saturday, for Grupo de Acceso I invited 2 waitresses from 4 X4 and Jorginho who was the manager there for many years (now the head honcho at 65). He actually desfilou (paraded) with Renascer de Jacarepagu. I got bored and decided to walk around. It was weird because no matter where I went nobody asked me for credentials. I ended up in the staging area where schools would gather before desfilando (parading) and met a passista (dancer) from samba school Inocentes de Belford Roxo. She was a solid 8. 5-9. Ended up spending the night at Puma with me. Good times.

Do you remember Aquarius on Rua Acre? That's gone too. Club Afrodite which is kitty corner from 210 on Uruguiana between Presidente Vargas and Marechal Floriano is worth a look. 210, 13, Vanessa 05, and 119 Rua Alfandega all have the same owner. I like 13 the best personally but heard 119 has been good lately. Don't like their steep ass stairs though, fall and break your neck like at 03 Leandro Martins. Better not come out of there drunk LOL. There's a newer place at Praa Monte Castelo 26 where I've seen some nice ones. There's a Smart Fit gym on the same street and a per kilo restaurant that's decent.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2553597]Seems you have some good information to share. If you get a chance, it would be good to hear more about your experiences and insights.[/QUOTE]Yeah man, been around the block in Rio more than a few times. Been places and done things I'm sure no other gringo has. What would you like to know?

[URL]https://covid19.healthdata.org/brazil?view=resource-use&tab=trend&resource=all_resources[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2554558]Can anyone on the ground answer definitively?

1. What are the new curfew hours?

2. Indoor dining allowed?

3. Termas in the daytime?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2554476]Parte II.

Found some flash drives in an old backpack I used to take to the beach.[/QUOTE]They would be in the triangle 7 days a week. Its amazing to see who many are still working, how many moved the the states and some who just faded away. Almost every girl in that montage has a cool story about what happened to them since Help closed.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2554655]They would be in the triangle 7 days a week. Its amazing to see who many are still working, how many moved the the states and some who just faded away. Almost every girl in that montage has a cool story about what happened to them since Help closed.[/QUOTE]Ditto,

I've run into to former Helpee girls in Washington, DC, at Brazilian restaurant that was a few blocks from my house. Have also run into them in the NJ area. The NYC Brazilian Day Festival is like a freaking Help reunion!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2554476]Parte II.

Found some flash drives in an old backpack I used to take to the beach.[/QUOTE]Counting photos from left to right, I'm fairly certain the great looking girl on the left shot some porn scenes. Hell, it's likely some others in your photo album did as well. Back in the 2000's, it was common to pick up a Brazilian porn DVD and say "I did that chick in Rio" or "my buddy did that chick". LOL.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I miss those blue sequined walls and all the girls that sat in front of them.

Just curious, where did you take the photo of the stunner in the wedding day garter and g-string ensemble? How did that outfit come to be?

Motel carbonara in bangu is recommended.

Rihanna noir and I had a great afternoon there.

That 80 reais per hour rate is probably for locals in bangu.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2554555]She does seem to charge her Gparena clients more, though. And she charges more in her PA ads than in Vivolocal. Something to keep in mind, too, I guess, LOL.[/QUOTE]

Figured I'd share what I know about getting a COVID test in Rio for return to the USA Unlike Brasil, the USA Only requires an antigen test which is faster and cheaper. I got mine at Pacheco pharmacy in Centro. It's at Rua dos Andradas 41 where it meets Buenos Aires. Nice, stylish old-fashioned type pharmacy with large wood & glass cabinets. Cost is are $120 and you get results in about 10 minutes. Next day and even same-day appointments were available. The USA Entry requirement is 3 calendar days (antigen or PCR) as opposed to 72 hours in Brasil (PCR only). I was tested at 3:00 pm and traveled 3 days later at 11:25 pm which was about 80.5 hours later with no problem. There's an app you can download called VeriFly which allows you to complete check-in requirements in advance. When you're done you get a checkmark screen you can show at the airport to speed things up. Otherwise, you'll need to complete a 1 page attestation at the airport. Also of note is if you plan to use VeriFly, your test needs to be within a 72 hour window rather than 3 calendar days as described above. You upload a photo of your test result in the app and are approved / denied after a quick review. Hope somebody finds this useful.

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2554643][URL]https://covid19.healthdata.org/brazil?view=resource-use&tab=trend&resource=all_resources[/URL][/QUOTE]I was curious what specifically transpired on the 26th when many restrictions were supposed to be lifted in Rio. Thanks though.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554598]Sure man, no problem. I remember Subway and Sao Bento. I'd pass through there every so often but never pulled anything. I too liked Praca Maua, especially Florida. . . .

Do you remember Aquarius on Rua Acre? That's gone too. Club Afrodite which is kitty corner from 210 on Uruguiana between Presidente Vargas and Marechal Floriano is worth a look. 210, 13, Vanessa 05, and 119 Rua Alfandega all have the same owner. I like 13 the best personally but heard 119 has been good lately. Don't like their steep ass stairs though, fall and break your neck like at 03 Leandro Martins. Better not come out of there drunk LOL. There's a newer place at Praa Monte Castelo 26 where I've seen some nice ones. There's a Smart Fit gym on the same street and a per kilo restaurant that's decent.[/QUOTE]Man, your recollection is pretty good!

Aquarius on Rua Acre, was an OK tier-2 terma (in its hayday) and had the odd gem to be found, once in while, but I always thought it was too dark to properly suss out talent. But on the other hand, it did provide some pretty nice cover for groping on occasion. But my Rio buddy, use to session with girls from there all the time.

If you walked along and go west on Av. Marechal Floriano (from the corner of Rua Acre), dotted in and around your stroll west, you'd find several of these 2 or 3-tier "blue collar" boates and termas, even still today. Many of them have no name, just a door number (and not even that at times).

Remember on the corner of Rua Acre and Av. Marechal Floriano, the American Bar?, I think it was called. Don't think it's still there, but the only reason it comes to mind was the gem GDP with the "Dr. Suess Christmas hat", that give an all time great festive session.

Not sure if some of those Centro clubs, where around as far back as Bar Florida, Aquarius on Rua Acre or even (the legendary) 85 Rua Buenos Aires, and if so, perhaps under another named incarnation. Centro de Lazer 13 and 15, U24, U210, MV30 are long standing centro establishments. Leandro Martins 3 and 5 (now called Vanessas).

U210,13, Vanessa 05, and 119 Rua Alfandega, I believe the owners name is Antonio. I think, he may also own, 116/118 Rua Conciecao (the ex-infamous "secret boate".

For most MBs that know many of the P4P centro establishments well, going up and down the stairwells, as always been an ongoing, long standing complaint. Never fallen, but I've come close countless times. And don't get some MBs started on the infamous spiral stairs at 85 Rua Buenos Aires...kkkk.

The Praca Maua luncheonettes (a favorite of mine), were pretty awesome back then, when Praca Maua area had tons of construction work happening. Many of the "blue collar" luncheonettes (if you got there early enough and there was still food), allowed you to load up your plate on carbs (ie. , pasta, potatoes, rice and peas...etc) and then gave you one choice of meat. Which they doled out very sparingly. Sometimes, you didn't need to eat for the rest of the day.

Today, Kilo restaurants have taken over and are way more expensive, but way better quality food. Centro Kilo restaurants, are still a better are R$/kilo option than most Copa or Zona Sul, kilo places during the lunch hours, especially if you happen be sessioning downtown.

FWIW, even today, there may well still be a small number of these "blue collar" venues dotted about, although your YMMV w/r to fun and/or gems to be found.

So the lesson is...for the adventurous, it can be a lot of fun and rewarding, taking some time to suss out, Praca Maua (or Centro) and the surrounding areas.

Many of the boates, termas or clubs, ONLY open early evening to late night. So be careful and mindful of where you are!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2554826]Man, your recollection is pretty good!

Aquarius on Rua Acre, was an OK tier-2 terma (in its hayday) and had the odd gem to be found, once in while, but I always thought it was too dark to properly suss out talent. But on the other hand, it did provide some pretty nice cover for groping on occasion. But my Rio buddy, use to session with girls from there all the time.

If you walked along and go west on Av. Marechal Floriano (from the corner of Rua Acre), dotted in and around your stroll west, you'd find several of these 2 or 3-tier "blue collar" boates and termas, even still today. Many of them have no name, just a door number (and not even that at times).

Remember on the corner of Rua Acre and Av. Marechal Floriano, the American Bar?, I think it was called. Don't think it's still there, but the only reason it comes to mind was the gem GDP with the "Dr. Suess Christmas hat", that give an all time great festive session.

Not sure if some of those Centro clubs, where around as far back as Bar Florida, Aquarius on Rua Acre or even (the legendary) 85 Rua Buenos Aires, and if so, perhaps under another named incarnation. Centro de Lazer 13 and 15, U24, U210, MV30 are long standing centro establishments. Leandro Martins 3 and 5 (now called Vanessas).

U210,13, Vanessa 05, and 119 Rua Alfandega, I believe the owners name is Antonio. I think, he may also own, 116/118 Rua Conciecao (the ex-infamous "secret boate".

For most MBs that know many of the P4P centro establishments well, going up and down the stairwells, as always been an ongoing, long standing complaint. Never fallen, but I've come close countless times. And don't get some MBs started on the infamous spiral stairs at 85 Rua Buenos Aires...kkkk.

The Praca Maua luncheonettes (a favorite of mine), were pretty awesome back then, when Praca Maua area had tons of construction work happening. Many of the "blue collar" luncheonettes (if you got there early enough and there was still food), allowed you to load up your plate on carbs (ie. , pasta, potatoes, rice and peas...etc) and then gave you one choice of meat. Which they doled out very sparingly. Sometimes, you didn't need to eat for the rest of the day.[/QUOTE]Man,

85 BA was my favorite spot in Centro. I was seriously unhappy when they closed. They opened briefly across the street at 80 BA but it didn't last long. Didn't have 5 floors either. I did the Copa / ZS thing many years ago but Centro / ZN has been my realm ever since. Do you remember Face Club on Rua Quitanda / Ouvidor? It only lasted a short time but it was nice. More upscale than Cancun or 65 at the time. Had my birthday there in 2013 and Mr. Catra (RIP) performed, it was dope!

My thinking on all "trash" spots is "on any given day". That's part of the thrill, not knowing who you might see. I've seen girls in VM one day and Monte Carlo the next. Literally. And vice versa!

There are still a few places that are all you can eat (sem balanca) on Rua Sete de Setembro. It's $13 reais with 2 pieces of meat. A steal!

Did you ever go to Niteroi next to Caixa Economica? They called it New Jack City LOL. I miss that place too. Room 326 had some dimes. Straight hood though, we'd all go to baile funks together and have a blast. Good times.

Seems that my field report from just before the pandemic never got sent. I had a great time hitting up the prives. I stayed in a VRBO apt. Right on Atlantic, across from the beach. Almost around the corner was Copa 583. Let me make it clear, I go for quantity, not the highest quality. A guy at the corner was handing out coupons for a short session for 30 RS. I tried it once just to get started. There was a selection of 5 chicas, all young and cute. It was a bit rushed, but Ok. On future trips there, I "splurged" for a 60 Rs session. The other area I tried were the many downtown prives, near Metro Carioca station. I'd never see anything like it, what looked like normal office buildings, 20 stories high, had prives mixed in with normal commercial offices. The room numbers in the forum posts were often still accurate, but several buildings had guys handing out coupons with the exact current office numbers. One escorted me to the 13th floor to make sure I found it. I was a little apprehensive being that the building was a bit deserted above the first few retail floors, but all was good (it was about 11 AM) Typical rate also ran 60 rs. Will be glad to answer questions if you PM me.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2554745]Counting photos from left to right, I'm fairly certain the great looking girl on the left shot some porn scenes. Hell, it's likely some others in your photo album did as well. Back in the 2000's, it was common to pick up a Brazilian porn DVD and say "I did that chick in Rio" or "my buddy did that chick". LOL.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I miss those blue sequined walls and all the girls that sat in front of them.

Just curious, where did you take the photo of the stunner in the wedding day garter and g-string ensemble? How did that outfit come to be?[/QUOTE]The stunner in the wedding outfit was from a Helpee Carnaval Party '06 or '07.

Next is Joyce Oliveira, first met her at Helpee, then she went to QuatroQuatro, and from there she started doing porn. I heard a rumour that she died. Anyone know anything about that?

The third babe is Barbara, first met her at Helpee, then she moved onto QuatroQuatro, while there she did porn (HipHopBadGirls).

Finally are dvd covers for BlackBootyCam & SexyRioGirls. I probably saw all those chicks at either Helpee, Meia Pataca, Terraco Atlantica or Hoe Beach at one time or another. Back in the good ole' days, LOL!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554785]Figured I'd share what I know about getting a COVID test in Rio for return to the USA Unlike Brasil, the USA Only requires an antigen test which is faster and cheaper. I got mine at Pacheco pharmacy in Centro. It's at Rua dos Andradas 41 where it meets Buenos Aires. Nice, stylish old-fashioned type pharmacy with large wood & glass cabinets. Cost is are $120 and you get results in about 10 minutes. Next day and even same-day appointments were available. The USA Entry requirement is 3 calendar days (antigen or PCR) as opposed to 72 hours in Brasil (PCR only). I was tested at 3:00 pm and traveled 3 days later at 11:25 pm which was about 80.5 hours later with no problem. There's an app you can download called VeriFly which allows you to complete check-in requirements in advance. When you're done you get a checkmark screen you can show at the airport to speed things up. Otherwise, you'll need to complete a 1 page attestation at the airport. Also of note is if you plan to use VeriFly, your test needs to be within a 72 hour window rather than 3 calendar days as described above. You upload a photo of your test result in the app and are approved / denied after a quick review. Hope somebody finds this useful.[/QUOTE]Thank you this is very useful but the 72 hours to go to Brazil is a little tight. AA has a flight from Miami to GIG leaves at 11 PM so 72 hours if you leave on a Thursday is Monday at 11 PM which is impossible to do so you have to get the test on Tuesday during the day it doesn't get to the lab until Tuesday night and you get results Thursday morning, very tight especially if you don't live in Miami. But the AA website says 72 hours from when you board the plane on your first leg to GIG. So if you take the test on Monday at 5 PM and your first leg to Miami is at 1:30 PM they will accept this even though it's more than 72 hours from 11 PM your actual flight to Brazil. I just wanted to mention this.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2554965]Finally are dvd covers for BlackBootyCam & SexyRioGirls. I probably saw all those chicks at either Helpee, Meia Pataca, Terraco Atlantica or Hoe Beach at one time or another. Back in the good ole' days, LOL![/QUOTE]I was fucking around on the internet some years ago and saw my buddy's wife on one of those covers. I told him about it but he already knew. Of course he met her at one of the usual Copacabana haunts. I have told his story before. They had 2 kids (one which no way could be his). Warned not to get married. He said they had a strong bond though. Moved her to the States, she cheated on him while he was away working, and he is the one on the hook for payment. By now he only has maybe 3 or 4 more years of payments to go.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554880]Man, 85 BA was my favorite spot in Centro. I was seriously unhappy when they closed. They opened briefly across the street at 80 BA but it didn't last long. Didn't have 5 floors either. I did the Copa / ZS thing many years ago but Centro / ZN has been my realm ever since.[/QUOTE] Yep! the memories were fantastic at 85. Well hopefully over time, you'll share and expand on your ZN exploits and experiences.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554880] Do you remember Face Club on Rua Quitanda / Ouvidor? [/QUOTE]There were so many termas, boates and clubs and so very little time...kkkk

The Face Club (aka. Sagitariu's?) on 74 Rua Quitanda, maybe, but I don't recall. And was Face Club, later reincarnated as the present day Terma 81 on Rua Quitanda?

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554880] My thinking on all "trash" spots is "on any given day". That's part of the thrill, not knowing who you might see. I've seen girls in VM one day and Monte Carlo the next. Literally. And vice versa![/QUOTE]Absolutely! Definitely a "box chocolates".

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554880]Did you ever go to Niteroi next to Caixa Economica? They called it New Jack City LOL. I miss that place too. Room 326 had some dimes. Straight hood though, we'd all go to baile funks together and have a blast. Good times. [/QUOTE]Went a couple times (at the tail end), and it was fun. Sorry to say, I missed out, back it's hayday. Some MBs even considered it as a must visit, top world cat-house.

Last time I went, it must have been about 3-4 weeks, just after it was demolished. What a shock it was, seeing that pile of rumble. Should have probably RTFF. Not a complete loss as I always enjoyed the ferry ride to/from Niteroi.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554880] There are still a few places that are all you can eat (sem balanca) on Rua Sete de Setembro. It's $13 reais with 2 pieces of meat. A steal! [/QUOTE]Wow! Really, I didn't know that. Thanks for the tips and updates.

What's up fellas. Booked my first ever trip to Rio for memorial day. I'll be there 7 days. I've been to Dominican republic a few times in Sosua but never the home of the booty LOL. I've been doing my research on this board but I'm not sure how much has changed since covid. What's the best place to stay. I'm going with my 2 brothers and we're all in our early 30's and love a to party. Somewhere by the beach and all the action that's guest friendly. Also what's some dos and don'ts that I should know and the average price. I don't want to mess up the economy there like there doing in Sosua LOL. And most importantly where do I go to find the big booty ladies. I'm talking stacked like this. Any help is greatly appreciated and I'll be sure to drop a trip report afterwards.

I flew back in Rio from SP on Tuesday morning. Thanks GOL. It was a rainy / cloudy day in RJ. I felt a little drained by the afternoon and decided to take it easy and do a Barra VIP's girl rather than check out my 1st Terma. The girl I chose lives at Transamerica, surprise surprise, which I have heard a lot about thanks to a certain BM, so I decided to see her there at her apartment.

Transamerica was kind of like what I expected. It is a friendly kind of place. I saw a number of what I assume were hookers and other residents. My hooker's apartment had a balcony and seemed ok. So, TA looks like a cool, low cost, residence to hang out at if you want to meet and get to know a lot of girls on their off hours. I will post more on my session with my new BarraVIP girl at TransAmerica later. The girl was alright. She had baby mound tits and I love baby mound tits.

New flash:

Centaurus is open! And I assume the other RJ Termas are open as well.

Centaurus current hours are 4 pm until 2 am. I went there this afternoon around 4:30 pm and enjoyed a memorable session with Morena, a tall, thin, and very nice girl. It set me back 600 br (140 entrance, 140 room, and 320 for the girl) for 40 minutes. On a CC it would have been 700 br. We went about 20 minutes overtime. Nobody called or cared.

Morena was the best looking girl in the place at that point in time. I will write up a more involved report later. Suffice it to say, I liked meeting the girl in the Terma, having a drink with her, and fooling around a little before making a decision to go upstairs way better than cold calling a BarraVips girls, but I must say, the price is in the same ballpark, and girl quality from what I have seen is a win for the VIP call girls I have shagged. No slight to Morena. She was sexy / hot and the best looking girl in the bar, but the other girls available at the time were not that tremendous. And that is the truth.

But I will probably go to Solarium tomorrow.

Lastly, it's great to be back on the beach. I loved the SP clinicas (Prime especially) and liked walking around Jardins and Moema neighborhoods but hanging out on a beach like Barra for a couple of hours each morning is just great.

I had a quick half hour at Club 116, The Not So Secret Terma. 80 reais for the half with a porn star quality negra.

I headed back to barra early to get ready to move rooms.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2555079]

New flash:

Centaurus is open! And I assume the other RJ Termas are open as well.

Centaurus current hours are 4 pm until 2 am. I went there this afternoon around 4:30 pm and enjoyed a memorable session with Morena, a tall, thin, and very nice girl. It set me back 600 br (140 entrance, 140 room, and 320 for the girl) for 40 minutes. On a CC it would have been 700 br. We went about 20 minutes overtime. Nobody called or cared.[/QUOTE]Thanks for updating the termas situation. I've never been to Centaurus, not even once, but with this exchange rate, I guess I might. Just to have been there done that, LOL?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2555079]Centaurus current hours are 4 pm until 2 am. I went there this afternoon around 4:30 pm and enjoyed a memorable session with Morena, a tall, thin, and very nice girl. . . But I will probably go to Solarium tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Well I guess congratulations are in order w/r to your very fist terma session. Sounds like it was fairly successful and next up Solarium. Good Luck!

Thanks for the reporting updates. As always, interesting and entertaining reporting

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554880] Do you remember Face Club on Rua Quitanda / Ouvidor? It only lasted a short time but it was nice. More upscale than Cancun or 65 at the time. Had my birthday there in 2013 and Mr. Catra (RIP) performed, it was dope! [/QUOTE]Speaking of Manhattan / Cancun, birthdays and recent chit-chat about pornstars, one my all time favorite PSE hookups, circa 2006, was Manushe (aka. Manushi, Manesha) at Terma Cancun.

Some birthdays are just so incredible and indelible. Now she was "dope!" (and boy did she love the maconha).

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/models/manuche-1[/URL]#_tabAboutMe.

[QUOTE=CkNice11;2555056]What's up fellas. Booked my first ever trip to Rio for memorial day. I'll be there 7 days. I've been to Dominican republic a few times in Sosua but never the home of the booty LOL. I've been doing my research on this board but I'm not sure how much has changed since covid. What's the best place to stay. I'm going with my 2 brothers and we're all in our early 30's and love a to party. Somewhere by the beach and all the action that's guest friendly. Also what's some dos and don'ts that I should know and the average price. I don't want to mess up the economy there like there doing in Sosua LOL. And most importantly where do I go to find the big booty ladies. I'm talking stacked like this. Any help is greatly appreciated and I'll be sure to drop a trip report afterwards.[/QUOTE]I envy you meu amigo. I started going down to Rio with my buddies in my early thirties. Some things have changed, but the fuck all night, have a late breakfast and nap on the beach routine has not changed. The exception is now I might not fuck all night.

Before senior members snap at you, I would tell you to read back a few months. I don't think you really have. (Millennials don't handle criticism very well. LOL.) You will get more info and varying perspectives that you can synchronize to your style. You can come back and ask precise questions instead of the usual newbie "tell me all about Rio" posts.

I recommend newbies to Rio stay in the middle of Copacabana. If you want a bit nicer neighborhood, you can stay in very close by Ipanema. Both have decent beaches where you can roll out of bed and hit the sand. From the Copa / Ipanema area, you can metro or uber to the Centro termas and prives. You will also find some in Copa, but do check out the scene in Centro. You could also metro to Barra to see a more modern and affluent area. It's nice, but I don't find it as walkable as Copa and Ipanema.

While young guys with some game should try to mix it up with the civilian girls, you should do some research on the current club scene and the Lapa street fest (near Centro) on other non-sex sites. COVID is likely changing the openings and hours. Keep apprised of some street parties when you are on the ground. The situation is fluid. A young guy should befriend a young desk clerk (male or female) or a shop clerk who speaks English and get the down low from a young local. Perhaps people are congregating without official blessing from the city.

As far as "where do I go to find the big booty ladies? The question is really "Where aren't there big booty ladies in Rio?" You can find big booty ladies all over Rio. Some guys might disagree with this next very simple generalization. I would say if you drew a line from Centro, down through Copacabana and Ipanema and on to Barra, the truly big booty women will diminish as you moved from Centro to Barra. As I said, you will find big booty women everywhere in Rio, but my observations tell me there are more of them in Centro at the termas and prives. In fact, the two Copa / Ipanema termas Monte Carlo and Centaurus were known for their slender girls who appealed to many Euro and American tourists. Don't be lazy go to Termas 4 x 4 in Centro instead. Checkout the Centro prives beforehand. And then check out Solarium just north of the lake that Ipanema straddles.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2555231]Some guys might disagree with this next very simple generalization. I would say if you drew a line from Centro, down through Copacabana and Ipanema and on to Barra, the truly big booty women will diminish as you moved from Centro to Barra. As I said, you will find big booty women everywhere in Rio, but my observations tell me there are more of them in Centro at the termas and prives. In fact, the two Copa / Ipanema termas Monte Carlo and Centaurus were known for their slender girls who appealed to many Euro and American tourists. Don't be lazy go to Termas 4 x 4 in Centro instead.[/QUOTE]Funny. Not disagree, but the tiniest, slenderest thing I've ever had a pleasure of banging. Not just in Brazil, ever. Happened to catch my eye in 4 x4 some years back. She was so out of place compared to her meatier colleagues that I just had to take her for a ride, even though I had my doubts. In the room she would pull me on top of her squeezing me tight with her arms and legs just to prove how durable she was, LOL!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2555346]Funny. Not disagree, but the tiniest, slenderest thing I've ever had a pleasure of banging. Not just in Brazil, ever. Happened to catch my eye in 4 x4 some years back. She was so out of place compared to her meatier colleagues that I just had to take her for a ride, even though I had my doubts. In the room she would pull me on top of her squeezing me tight with her arms and legs just to prove how durable she was, LOL![/QUOTE]I've had a few slim booty garotas in 4 X4 over the years. It's certainly not the norm, but there are always a few there.

I am doing; not dreaming. To demonstrate that please see attached details of my flight to Rio on July 20.

Additionally, I plan on booking this airbnb.

[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/326205[/URL]

The address is approximately.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 383 - Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22020-002, Brazil.

My budget for girls for the entire 28 day trip is about are 8000 reals. By they way, I don't anticipate 24/7 orgies on that budget. I will accept plenty of downtime sitting on the beach alone with a good book if that's how it works out.

By the way, other than an occasional beer, I don't drink alcohol. Coffee and soda are fine.

Now here's my question: How do I get the most bang for my buck.

I would be perfectly happy with a girl who is barely legal, brown skinned, pretty face, nice figure without implants and waist length straight black hair. Vaginal with condom. Oral without. Anal not necessary. Educational level and English knowledge are unimportant. She can be as dumb as a brick. Warm, friendly personality and love of sex required.

I am attaching two photos to give a general idea of my type. This is not graven in stone, however this is my basic starting goal.

I am not a huge fan of the 30 year old, white skinned, fake blonde, breast implanted ladies who seem to be the icons of perfection for Brazilian men (no judgement; beauty is in the eye of the beholder, you do you).

So where do I go and when to accomplish my mission, which is maximum number of hours with the type of girl I prefer?

Incidentally, I am a creature of habit and once I meet one girl I really enjoy, I'll stick with her for the rest of the trip if possible.

I am working on learning basic Portuguese and I will have my iPhone with google translate in my hand at all times.

These are my ideas, gathered from the Internet and a few kindle books:

Visit Mab's Bar and try chatting with anyone who looks like my type.

Av. Prado Jnior, 16 a. Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. State of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Visit Copacabana Beach and try chatting with anyone who looks like my type.

Visit the numerous prives in Centro until I locate my type. The epicenter seems to be the area around the Carioca tram stop.

Av. Alm. Barroso, 25 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20031-003, Brazil.

Visit Vila Mimosa and look for my type.

Are. Sotero dos Reis. Praca the Bandeira, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20270-200, Brazil.

Regarding when to go, I am assuming that anything before 2:00 pm is probably too early for a popular girl to be up and around. Regarding Centro and Vila Mimosa, I plan on heading back to Copacabana by about 5:00 pm due to safety issues, hopefully with a suitable girl in tow.

Websites where I just point and click don't seem to be the best solution to my knowledge. Either the photos are fake, the girls are overpriced or both. I have time to do some legwork and shop around.

Any additional advice and information would be gratefully accepted. This is my first real life (not just imaginary) attempt at doing anything like this.

Assuming all goes according to plan, I intend to post a lengthy report afterwards.

My only comment about your July trip is might be a little cool.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555452]My only comment about your July trip is might be a little cool.[/QUOTE]I believe that average daily lows will be 66 and the high 77 Fahrenheit with water temperature around 70. Sounds very comfortable to me. Where I live, Haifa, Israel, July and August can be like a furnace.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2555442]I am doing; not dreaming. To demonstrate that please see attached details of my flight to Rio on July 20.

Additionally, I plan on booking this airbnb.

[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/326205[/URL]

The address is approximately.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 383 - Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22020-002, Brazil.
.[/QUOTE]For $17 a day or even less with a discount be careful as the pictures are very narrow but you can see the mold on the shower. But at that price people can tolerate a lot.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2555455]I accidentally didn't include a screen print of my return flight from Rio to Tel Aviv. This is really happening. Arriving July 21 departing August 17. If anyone plans on being in Copacabana during that time, feel free to DM me.[/QUOTE]Be careful sharing your details.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2555458]For $17 a day or even less with a discount be careful as the pictures are very narrow but you can see the mold on the shower. But at that price people can tolerate a lot.[/QUOTE]I like the location in the heart of Copacabana. Apparently there is a little private rooftop pool which is shared by two other apartments, however with COVID I've got a suspicion that I might be the only tenant, so that sounds good. I can think of worse things than skinny dipping with an 18 year old nymphomaniac. The reviews are good. Additionally, I've private messaged the owner and he is completely on board with my extracurricular activities. He is also American and seems to be on the same page. Many airbnb owners are NOT girl friendly.

It's not 5 stars, but it's a trade off. Every dollar spent on lodging is one less dollar for girls.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2555459]Be careful sharing your details.[/QUOTE]In the past couple of months I have been getting so much hate on this forum for "wasting everyone's time" by asking millions of questions but never really going anywhere. I'm not thrilled about doing that, but I don't see much choice. And by the way "Jacob Stein Haifa Israel" is not too identifying. It's like "John O'Reilly Boston Massachusetts".

[QUOTE=Spidy;2555172]Well I guess congratulations are in order w/r to your very fist terma session. Sounds like it was fairly successful and next up Solarium. Good Luck!

Thanks for the reporting updates. As always, interesting and entertaining reporting[/QUOTE]Thanks Spidy, I am happy to pay back, in the form of my current trip reports, all the solid contributions made by those BM's who went before me. I also appreciate the fact that you understood what I was alluding to in my post about my visit to Centaurus. It was an ambiguous experience. On the one hand I liked the girl and the session with her was first rate, but on the other hand, I was not very impressed with Centaurus itself. There were only 4 or 5 girls in attendance in the bar, mine was the only attractive one, and the bar itself was rather lifeless and dull. Maybe it was an off day, maybe 4:30 was too early, I don't know, but I left the bar thinking there has to be a better Terma in RJ.

So with my 1st Terma experience in mind, my expectations for Solarium were not very high. But surprise surprise, I really liked Solarium. I went there around the same time as I went to Centaurus the day before, but this time I found a lively and very friendly atmosphere. There were around 25 girls in the bar of which there were 2 or 3 stunners and 4 or 5 more were very doable girls. The girls ranged in all types and sizes from thin spinners to Amazon body building queens. Take your pick. I ended up with a sexy, cute, natural redhead to my liking and she turned out to be a very sweet girl in bed. Aside from all the tender kissing and GFE stuff, this one gave me one of the best deep throat BJ's I have had since arriving in Brazil. What a great gal! And she was TALL! 5'9" without her high heels on. Natural "be" cups, slender body type, and very cute / innocent looking face (ha ha). I booked for 40 minutes, but we went into overtime, and that cost me an extra 100 br for the full 60 minutes. Who cares. I had a great time.

Afterwards I hung out in Solarium for a while to get to know some of the girls and plan my strategy for my next visit. I like the place so much, that I am going back tonight. LOL.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2555346]Funny. Not disagree, but the tiniest, slenderest thing I've ever had a pleasure of banging. Not just in Brazil, ever. Happened to catch my eye in 4 x4 some years back. She was so out of place compared to her meatier colleagues that I just had to take her for a ride, even though I had my doubts. In the room she would pull me on top of her squeezing me tight with her arms and legs just to prove how durable she was, LOL![/QUOTE]It always annoys me when anybody comes in here suggesting that all Brazilian women are "big booty babes" and you can't find any slender women in Brazil. It's just not true, and makes no sense when you think about it (Brazil is a huge and diverse nation with 100's of millions of people). So The Cane likes pretty, big booty blondes. OK, well that's just me number 1. And number 2, it's not the only thing I like. As a matter of fact, one of my favorite 4 x 4 tutes of all time was a petite, slender girl who went by "Sher". You could tell that she really enjoyed her job, and I enjoyed it when she would plead with me to "skeet" in her mouth. That's her in the pics. I wonder where she is and what she's doing now?

Slender, small ass branca (white girl) I pulled from Barbarella before it closed. She went by a couple of names, including "Valeria".

[QUOTE=RioBob;2555459]Be careful sharing your details.[/QUOTE]I thought the same, not very wise. Sharing name, city, country and where he used to live before. In less than half a minute anybody can find him on FB.

And my favorite girl of all time in Brazil? Surprise, surprise! It's not what you think! It's a slender morena from Centaurus who went by "Talita". With Talita, I had incredible chemistry. We weren't just fucking. No my fellow mongers, we were making love! In fact, she would tell me while we were having "relations" that she missed me and that she loved me. That she missed my dick and loved my dick, and that she wanted me to cum inside of her. Things progressed to where she was ready to start seeing me outside of the termas. Anybody notice the size of her ass? LOL! Oh, and here's the kicker. Talita did not do anal! And I didn't even care. That pussy was so, so good! And we were. In love. Yes we were!

Here is Talita with a girl who went by "Pietra" in what was my very first dupla ever! I've only done three duplas in my life, each of them outstanding, with this one being the first of the three (the other two were in Spain with Albanian girls, and then a Romanian / Moldovan girl duo). Pietra did anal. I dug her warm butt hole out something good while Talita urged me on, wildly waving her arms around in the air with a, "Go, go, go! Fuck Pietra in the ass"! LOL! I remember that Talita's eyes were huge and round like 50 cent pieces as she encouraged me to cornhole her friend (a big booty blonde type). When I wrote my original report, I recall that I entitled it "Dupla, Dupla" because I did two dupla sessions with these girls. Man! Those were some days! Fuck COVID!

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2555484]Thanks Spidy, I am happy to pay back, in the form of my current trip reports, all the solid contributions made by those BM's who went before me. I also appreciate the fact that you understood what I was alluding to in my post about my visit to Centaurus. It was an ambiguous experience. On the one hand I liked the girl and the session with her was first rate, but on the other hand, I was not very impressed with Centaurus itself. There were only 4 or 5 girls in attendance in the bar, mine was the only attractive one, and the bar itself was rather lifeless and dull. Maybe it was an off day, maybe 4:30 was too early, I don't know, but I left the bar thinking there has to be a better Terma in RJ.[/QUOTE]The last time I went to Centaurus was in 2019, and things had really, really fallen off there. It was rather sad, and I discussed it in my report. As another monger here replied (think it was Vagabundo), "the thrill is gone" at Centaurus. The place comes with a lot of sentiments for me. It was the very first termas I ever went to, and it used to just rock, especially at night. Sometimes they would have live music (blind guitar player who was pretty good), and the place would be packed with hotties (clients too). And like I said below, Centaurus is where I found my favorite Brazilian tute of all time, "Talita" (did you guy see the size of her butt hahaha). I still think about her to this very day. Quatro por Quatro is my favorite termas of all, but I found my best girl (and plenty of other hotties too) at Centaurus. Like I missed the best days of Help, it seems that you may have missed the best days of Centaurus. But, whereas Help has closed, Centaurus is still open. So, keep hope alive!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2555495]I thought the same, not very wise. Sharing name, city, country and where he used to live before. In less than half a minute anybody can find him on FB.[/QUOTE]Actually, I doubt that. And anyway, what then? I'm doing nothing illegal. I'm single. I'm not hurting anyone.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2555465]In the past couple of months I have been getting so much hate on this forum for "wasting everyone's time" by asking millions of questions but never really going anywhere. I'm not thrilled about doing that, but I don't see much choice. And by the way "Jacob Stein Haifa Israel" is not too identifying. It's like "John O'Reilly Boston Massachusetts".[/QUOTE]Harry, I'm glad you have stopped analyzing (to a degree) and actually are taking action. You just ask a lot of inane questions. Then in a strange way, you regurgitate answers back to the board with your own spin as if you had first hand experience. "Obi-Wan Kenobi, I really think it would be better if Jedi held the lightsaber like this."

Girls like the ones in your photos are all over Rio. That is probably the most common look for a Brasileira. They are generally called Morenas. Just go, stop analyzing and you will find these types at termas, prives and escort sites. They are also all over the beach, but not necessarily "working".

That AirBnB looks a little spartan. I myself don't stay in luxury, but I personally would upgrade a bit. I'm always leery when there are more photos of local scenery than the apartment itself. The good thing about traveling there during the Brazilian winter is you won't depend on the air-conditioning. This is the biggest issue for me when renting inexpensive private apartments in the tropics. AirBnB owners often don't replace air-conditioning wall units on a timely basis. No one wants to be fucking and sweating in a hot apartment. In fact, you're more likely to get a girl to hang around longer (no guarantees though) if you have a decent apartment.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2555484]So with my 1st Terma experience in mind, my expectations for Solarium were not very high. But surprise surprise, I really liked Solarium. I went there around the same time as I went to Centaurus the day before, but this time I found a lively and very friendly atmosphere. There were around 25 girls in the bar of which there were 2 or 3 stunners and 4 or 5 more were very doable girls. The girls ranged in all types and sizes from thin spinners to Amazon body building queens. Take your pick. I ended up with a sexy, cute, natural redhead to my liking and she turned out to be a very sweet girl in bed. Aside from all the tender kissing and GFE stuff, this one gave me one of the best deep throat BJ's I have had since arriving in Brazil. What a great gal! And she was TALL! 5'9" without her high heels on. Natural "be" cups, slender body type, and very cute / innocent looking face (ha ha). I booked for 40 minutes, but we went into overtime, and that cost me an extra 100 br for the full 60 minutes. Who cares. I had a great time.

Afterwards I hung out in Solarium for a while to get to know some of the girls and plan my strategy for my next visit. I like the place so much, that I am going back tonight. LOL.[/QUOTE]You should check-out 4 x4 in Centro. It's usually quite festive. (Read my next post in response to The Cane.) As you are probably aware, 4 x4 doesn't get going until 5 or so. You can explore the Centro prives in the afternoon before heading to 4 x4.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2555519]Actually, I doubt that. And anyway, what then? I'm doing nothing illegal. I'm single. I'm not hurting anyone.[/QUOTE]If not FB, I can find you in Rio, I know your name, where you're staying and when plus how much money you have. Now most of us are just paranoid types. I never tell girls the exact day I'm arriving or leaving. I've had girls text me when I'm home for days already that I'm sitting at your pool with a girlfriend why don't you come down and play with us? It hurts sometimes.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2555485]It always annoys me when anybody comes in here suggesting that all Brazilian women are "big booty babes" and you can't find any slender women in Brazil. It's just not true, and makes no sense when you think about it (Brazil is a huge and diverse nation with 100's of millions of people). So The Cane likes pretty, big booty blondes. OK, well that's just me number 1. And number 2, it's not the only thing I like. As a matter of fact, one of my favorite 4 x 4 tutes of all time was a petite, slender girl who went by "Sher". You could tell that she really enjoyed her job, and I enjoyed it when she would plead with me to "skeet" in her mouth. That's her in the pics. I wonder where she is and what she's doing now?[/QUOTE]Sher at 4 x4 was a real cool girl. Five of us were hanging out at 4 x4 on a Friday night near closing time. My bud is macking on Sher. I'm groping the ass of Sher's pretty brunette friend. The two have agreed to come to our apartment after closing. Meanwhile, our other three buds come over and say they want some take-out too. Sher who spoke decent English takes charge. She takes my buddies and starts looking across the bar and dance floor. "No, that one isn't fun. That one is my friend. She's very fun. " We didn't know it at the time, but a festa was brewing.

Sher says that we should go to the apartment and they will be there at 1:00 am. We shouldn't wait for them outside. We stop somewhere for a drink in Copa. We debate whether they will even come, will there be five girls or how late will they be. A Brasileira could show up anytime. We get to the apartment building a little late. 1:05 or so. Sher and her four hot girlfriends are waiting for us in the lobby. The concierge smiles. He has already checked out their identification before we arrived. Sher had marshalled the 4 x 4 troops to arrive precisely on-time at 1:00 am.

Sher had amazing sexuality and a fun nature, The last thing I remember was Sher using her arms to lean on the door frame with one leg in the air. My buddy was working her from behind while she stood on one leg in the doorway.

While Sher was relatively slender, I think you can see in the photos she had that Brazilian pop in her ass. I bet she is a pretty hot MILF now. With her personality and language skills among other things, she could easily be married to someone abroad.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2555529]If not FB, I can find you in Rio[/QUOTE]So find me. I'm not hiding. Are you going to fight me so something LOL. Maybe I'll talk you into buying me a beer. .

Anyway, where do I find my girl?

The fact is the more I hear about Rio, I think I'll first just try hitting up non-pros and see what happens. I think I'm not bad actually. In the modern western sex deserts I may be a loser, but Rio sounds a bit different. And if it's free it's for me.

50r Stephanie.

For 50 r, a great 15 minute bang.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2555519]Actually, I doubt that. And anyway, what then? I'm doing nothing illegal. I'm single. I'm not hurting anyone.[/QUOTE]Breadcrumbs. It's quite possible with the information provided, someone can change your itinerary or cancel it. The same information can lead to more information, perhaps enough to commit identity theft. Here, let me show you. LOL. It's considered Unwise to share your confirmation number on an open forum. Would you share your credit card number, date of birth too?

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2555567]Would you share your credit card number, date of birth too?[/QUOTE]Everyone knows Harry was born yesterday.

This question is for the vets and og's. Me and one of my partners are taking a trip to this part of world sometime this year. My partner has a rule were he doesn't want any girls staying over. Based on your experiences. What's are your rules when it comes to letting girls stay over at your place? Is it something that is encouraged and are there signs to look for? He thinks that it would be a big security hazard and I tell him your saying that now but you may change your mind.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2555543]Sher at 4 x4 was a real cool girl. Five of us were hanging out at 4 x4 on a Friday night near closing time. My bud is macking on Sher. I'm groping the ass of Sher's pretty brunette friend. The two have agreed to come to our apartment after closing. Meanwhile, our other three buds come over and say they want some take-out too. Sher who spoke decent English takes charge. She takes my buddies and starts looking across the bar and dance floor. "No, that one isn't fun. That one is my friend. She's very fun. " We didn't know it at the time, but a festa was brewing.

Sher says that we should go to the apartment and they will be there at 1:00 am. We shouldn't wait for them outside. We stop somewhere for a drink in Copa. We debate whether they will even come, will there be five girls or how late will they be. A Brasileira could show up anytime. We get to the apartment building a little late. 1:05 or so. Sher and her four hot girlfriends are waiting for us in the lobby. The concierge smiles. He has already checked out their identification before we arrived. Sher had marshalled the 4 x 4 troops to arrive precisely on-time at 1:00 am.

Sher had amazing sexuality and a fun nature, The last thing I remember was Sher using her arms to lean on the door frame with one leg in the air. My buddy was working her from behind while she stood on one leg in the doorway.

While Sher was relatively slender, I think you can see in the photos she had that Brazilian pop in her ass. I bet she is a pretty hot MILF now. With her personality and language skills among other things, she could easily be married to someone abroad.[/QUOTE]I recall you telling me this story before. Sher was a lot of fun indeed!

[QUOTE=YaySteez;2555579]This question is for the vets and og's. Me and one of my partners are taking a trip to this part of world sometime this year. My partner has a rule were he doesn't want any girls staying over. Based on your experiences. What's are your rules when it comes to letting girls stay over at your place? Is it something that is encouraged and are there signs to look for? He thinks that it would be a big security hazard and I tell him your saying that now but you may change your mind.[/QUOTE]Easy, my mother does not allow sleepovers.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2555548]The fact is the more I hear about Rio, I think I'll first just try hitting up non-pros and see what happens. I think I'm not bad actually. In the modern western sex deserts I may be a loser, but Rio sounds a bit different.[/QUOTE]
Howcome, the cariocas have bad taste? Considering your 8 photos on FB I would prepare a fat wallet.

I headed into Centro on the 14 h20 bus from Transamerica.

I got off at the stop at Av Presidente Wilson 147, the old Bedoin Cafe.

The walk over to Treze de Maio 33 is a nice one, with a slight sunny day.

I headed up to sala 3206, and went for the 15 minute special at 50 reais with the afore pictured Stephanie.

Really beautiful girl, 19 year old, tall, with natural tits, long legs, and a bundinha, which I prefer. Slender.

Everything was covered, which was not good, but she rode well, then I came bending her over.

I went over North from there.

I had a juice from the street vendor and some protein powder.

I like very much the Rio de Janeiro city center, for all the stress of the times, it is a beautiful city.

I popped into Club 13 near Metro Uruguiana.

There was a little party going on, and the club was packed.

I got a number from a pretty morena, who was sitting on the lap of a black dude.

I dropped by Club 26, which was closed, as it was several weeks ago.

I got to Club 116 by way of the back streets, Alfandega west to Rua the Conceico, then North over Presidente Vargas.

I popped my head into the boate, and it was empty for the most part. On the way back out, I saw Nicole in the locker room getting geared up like a cop in a locker room, except she was a hooker in a room of Rio's finest.

So, I said, come here.

I opted for a quick 10 minute session for 45 reais, and it was predictably bad, technically, all covered, but she's a hot 22 year old who could be Anne Amari.

So I bent her over, and I fucked her just because I could.

And it was 8 dollars. Or 45 reais.

Afterwards I went up the street for a acai at a tropical bar.

I walked back towards centro, and caught the 309 bus towards barra.

As I mentioned earlier after one of Johnny walker's post, we mongers can really budget pro forma, and "glide" as in the swim stroke to gain distance for dollars. 280 reais a day can get 3 fucks a day for 60 reais, 60 reais, and then 140 reais.

I ended up back at Olegario, but headed over to Skinna, the best seafood place a few blocks over, where I had a bowl of bean (feijao) and a crab soup for less than 50 reais. This is a nice little place on a side street where I had gone with ISG member Mandingoblack.

[QUOTE=YaySteez;2555579]This question is for the vets and og's. Me and one of my partners are taking a trip to this part of world sometime this year. My partner has a rule were he doesn't want any girls staying over. Based on your experiences. What's are your rules when it comes to letting girls stay over at your place? Is it something that is encouraged and are there signs to look for? He thinks that it would be a big security hazard and I tell him your saying that now but you may change your mind.[/QUOTE]You can't trust these girls but that shouldn't stop you from having fun with them. Before you go out at night put all your valuables away, lock them up and just keep out enough money you'll need for the night. Then when you have the girls come over you don't have to worry about security just have fun with them and have them stay if you want. The girls may not even want to stay over if it's early enough because they may want to go back out and score again.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2555587]Howcome, the cariocas have bad taste? Considering your 8 photos on FB I would prepare a fat wallet.[/QUOTE]What's the best way to pick up regular women there, and are they attracted to certain looking guys?

[QUOTE=YaySteez;2555597]What's the best way to pick up regular women there, and are they attracted to certain looking guys?[/QUOTE]The same way you pick them up anywhere else in the world. You might want to start hoping you speak the same language.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2555589]As I mentioned earlier after one of Johnny walker's post, we mongers can really budget pro forma, and "glide" as in the swim stroke to gain distance for dollars. 280 reais a day can get 3 fucks a day for 60 reais, 60 reais, and then 140 reais.[/QUOTE]I'm in my mid 40's and would have trouble reliably getting it fully up more than twice in a day (or even once fully covered- ugh).

A little while back I was reading the Medellin page and a poster was relating his weekend trip down which he described as wall to wall fuck-fest with 5-8 girls in one day all in quick sequence- day after day after day- aaand while "partying". Also his buddy was in the same suite doing the exact same thing. Hmm. Am I the only middle age monger in the house who is not some sort of Priapic Olympian? Vagabundo I don't doubt the veracity of your reporting, but it could be some of those Medellin posters are stretching it a bit? If not, guess it's time for me to look into that blue pill.

Regardless, great system you have worked out.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2555522]Girls like the ones in your photos are all over Rio. That is probably the most common look for a Brasileira. They are generally called Morenas. Just go, stop analyzing and you will find these types at termas, prives and escort sites. They are also all over the beach, but not necessarily "working".[/QUOTE]Thank you very much! Well, it sounds like Rio is for me. Morenas, your gringo is on the way! It's interesting that the prostitute websites don't show a lot of this type of girl. I guess they are not considered to be anything special.

About posting my plane ticket information. I thought that by doing that, I would finally get the last few important pieces of intel I need. It's too late for me to delete it now. I wish I could. I get the impression that not everyone visiting this forum knows too much anyway. Sigh.

Regarding identity theft, believe me, you don't want to be me. However if you do steal my identity, then you are keeping it. I don't want it back.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2555587]Howcome, the cariocas have bad taste? Considering your 8 photos on FB I would prepare a fat wallet.[/QUOTE]It's not just the looks. It's the skill, grace, humor, intelligence, the savoir faire, the game, the confidence, how you carry yourself, the complete package. However I will bring money too.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2555519]Actually, I doubt that. And anyway, what then? I'm doing nothing illegal. I'm single. I'm not hurting anyone.[/QUOTE]Now be careful sharing your info so nothing illegal (or unpleasant) can be done to you. The folks here have given your good advice.

Have a blast in Rio.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2555563]50r Stephanie.

For 50 r, a great 15 minute bang.[/QUOTE]She is precisely my type. A slim morena (with some Indian blood in her)?

Goodness!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2555563]50r Stephanie.

For 50 r, a great 15 minute bang. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2555647]She is precisely my type. A slim morena (with some Indian blood in her)?

Goodness![/QUOTE]For a split second, a thought you wrote, "Goddess".

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2555645]Now be careful sharing your info so nothing illegal (or unpleasant) can be done to you.[/QUOTE]I was desperately trying to get some solid, detailed, actionable information out someone in this forum beyond "Cafe Bust A Nut closed. " Or "Took Maria home last night! 100 reals and what a spinner!" with attached photo of any random woman's back.

It's OK. No problem. Live and learn.

I post this on behalf of a Brazilian good friend of mine; he is well know on the forums like GPArena where you can find is TD; keep in mind that neither English nor Portuguese are my mother tongue.

Guys, I am Omegahotside.

True Bohemian and Putanheiro from Rio de Janeiro.

And I always try to give my friend phate ì the best information.

Club 116, is a trash place, that is, badly maintained, smelly and very bad to take girls to the cabin to have sex. The fun and even practices to explore, because sometimes beautiful women appear there.

And club 23 also follows the same pattern mentioned above, it is the rule in Rio that the trash places call CLUB and the street number where it is located; if you find a place with red and lilac neon lights, you can be sure that it is a trash.

I perceive a lot of reports here in a LUDIC way, but don't show the reality of things.

There are values ​8203;below 50 reais and 40 minutes but they are girls that are not worth it, hardly a beautiful and hot garota.

The place in the Transamerica bar was high level, but the pattern is falling more and more.

Soon I will report the true essence of Rio de Janeiro and whoever wants to one day sit at the table with me to have a beer and share the moment will be available.

Come on, I'm the inevitable.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2555700]I was desperately trying to get some solid, detailed, actionable information out someone in this forum beyond "Cafe Bust A Nut closed. " Or "Took Maria home last night! 100 reals and what a spinner!" with attached photo of any random woman's back.

It's OK. No problem. Live and learn.[/QUOTE]There's plenty of information here just in the last few pages. Vagabundo mentions specific addresses in downtown that fit your budget, if you don't understand it ask him. Another poster recently compared 2 top termas Centaurus and Solarium, if solarium costs 500 per session you can go 16 times or every other day. If you're looking for freelancers to pick up there is a bar called Mabs and another called dolce vita. Also ask the administrator to delete your posts, just give him the post number, do it through the app. I've done it before when I posted pictures of girls who saw the pictures and were not happy, he took them down for me. You never know who is looking at these sites and for what reason, protect yourself.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2555568]Everyone knows Harry was born yesterday.[/QUOTE]Admin should take down those two posts as a favor to Harry. There is just a lot of information that is available through PNR that can be used to mine more info.

Kris.

According to Mark Twain, "A cauliflower is nothing but a cabbage with a college education".

I have the numbers of some solarium girls, and have them over for pernoites for 400.

But as twain said, I find the solarium girls are just club 116 girls with a bunch of make up products, and none of the solarium girls are the slim negra negra negras that I prefer, and some of the club 116 girls are better morena clara with bunda boas than the solarium girls, and the solarium girls get the pricing in their pussies like a armored escalade when a honda civic will get the same trip done.

That said, solarium is a good spot, especially to socialize with other friends, but my rule is to just get numbers there.

With the cover of 140 reais at solarium though, the locals will just think you're an idiot.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2555719]There's plenty of information here just in the last few pages. Vagabundo mentions specific addresses in downtown that fit your budget, if you don't understand it ask him. Another poster recently compared 2 top termas Centaurus and Solarium, if solarium costs 500 per session you can go 16 times or every other day. If you're looking for freelancers to pick up there is a bar called Mabs and another called dolce vita. Also ask the administrator to delete your posts, just give him the post number, do it through the app. I've done it before when I posted pictures of girls who saw the pictures and were not happy, he took them down for me. You never know who is looking at these sites and for what reason, protect yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RioBob;2555596]You can't trust these girls but that shouldn't stop you from having fun with them. Before you go out at night put all your valuables away, lock them up and just keep out enough money you'll need for the night. Then when you have the girls come over you don't have to worry about security just have fun with them and have them stay if you want. The girls may not even want to stay over if it's early enough because they may want to go back out and score again.[/QUOTE]Rio Bob is right. That's the drill. You can also try to find apartments with safes.

Now we all have had small things like brushes, toothpaste and cologne taken from our apartments. It doesn't happen all the time, but if you are attached to some little thing hide it or lock it up.

It's not a big deal.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2555617]
A little while back I was reading the Medellin page and a poster was relating his weekend trip down which he described as wall to wall fuck-fest with 5-8 girls in one day all in quick sequence- day after day after day- aaand while "partying". Also his buddy was in the same suite doing the exact same thing.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that Colombia is different because there are a large group of refugees from Venezuela.

I think I know who you are talking about. I know him personally and have hung out with him. He is one of the most generous mongers I have met. His videos help keep some of us sane, haha.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2555698]For a split second, a thought you wrote, "Goddess".[/QUOTE]That too, LMAO.

[QUOTE=Phate;2555706]Soon I will report the true essence of Rio de Janeiro and whoever wants to one day sit at the table with me to have a beer and share the moment will be available.

Come on, I'm the inevitable.[/QUOTE]I know your friend said English was not his mother tongue, but yikes it sounds like the grim reaper "the inevitable" wants to have a drink with us.

Hit Centro yesterday as well.

The usual clubs like 210 Uruguaina.

The place that has the balloons at the door, across the street, was great!

Lots of sexy negras, morenas dancing about.

The so called Secret Club (114 and 116) LOL, I've actually been visiting for years, LOL, had some sexy morenas as well.

The best of the night, drum roll please!

Villa Mimosa was awesome! Lots of new girls!

Enjoyed till 4 am.

It's good to know the ins and outs of VM.

Sometimes, more often than not, the hottest girls are not the best girls.

All about the interview.

We all know that!

Brazil rocks!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2555839]Hit Centro yesterday as well.

The usual clubs like 210 Uruguaina.

The place that has the balloons at the door, across the street, was great!

Lots of sexy negras, morenas dancing about.

The so called Secret Club (114 and 116) LOL, I've actually been visiting for years, LOL, had some sexy morenas as well.

The best of the night, drum roll please!

Villa Mimosa was awesome! Lots of new girls!

Enjoyed till 4 am.

It's good to know the ins and outs of VM.

Sometimes, more often than not, the hottest girls are not the best girls.

All about the interview.

We all know that!

Brazil rocks![/QUOTE]Where the white women at? Hahaha! As I told Breadman, "In my hotel room"! LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2555720]Admin should take down those two posts as a favor to Harry. There is just a lot of information that is available through PNR that can be used to mine more info. Kris.[/QUOTE]I have requested that. Frankly, I'm not that nervous. With no money and no credit rating, I don't think my identity is in much danger of being stolen. And I have a feeling that messing with my plane ticket isn't really all that easy. They've got to send some kind of message to my phone or email to confirm that it's really me, or so I would assume. Also, what's the point in doing that and I'm guessing it's a felony if you get caught.

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[QUOTE=TheCane;2555841]Where the white women at? Hahaha! As I told Breadman, "In my hotel room"! LOLOLOL![/QUOTE]And hopefully they will be in mine when I get there Monday.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2555833]I know your friend said English was not his mother tongue, but yikes it sounds like the grim reaper "the inevitable" wants to have a drink with us.[/QUOTE]Ad also he wrote in capital letters.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554598]Sure man, no problem. I remember Subway and Sao Bento. I'd pass through there every so often but never pulled anything. I too liked Praca Maua, especially Florida. I stayed at Puma Motel during Carnaval once for cheap when everything in town was sky-high. Had a camarote at Sambadromo for all 3 days. On Saturday, for Grupo de Acceso I invited 2 waitresses from 4 X4 and Jorginho who was the manager there for many years (now the head honcho at 65). He actually desfilou (paraded) with Renascer de Jacarepagu. I got bored and decided to walk around. It was weird because no matter where I went nobody asked me for credentials. I ended up in the staging area where schools would gather before desfilando (parading) and met a passista (dancer) from samba school Inocentes de Belford Roxo. She was a solid 8. 5-9. Ended up spending the night at Puma with me. Good times.

Do you remember Aquarius on Rua Acre? That's gone too. Club Afrodite which is kitty corner from 210 on Uruguiana between Presidente Vargas and Marechal Floriano is worth a look. 210, 13, Vanessa 05, and 119 Rua Alfandega all have the same owner. I like 13 the best personally but heard 119 has been good lately. Don't like their steep ass stairs though, fall and break your neck like at 03 Leandro Martins. Better not come out of there drunk LOL. There's a newer place at Praa Monte Castelo 26 where I've seen some nice ones. There's a Smart Fit gym on the same street and a per kilo restaurant that's decent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554880]Man,

85 BA was my favorite spot in Centro. I was seriously unhappy when they closed. They opened briefly across the street at 80 BA but it didn't last long. Didn't have 5 floors either. I did the Copa / ZS thing many years ago but Centro / ZN has been my realm ever since. Do you remember Face Club on Rua Quitanda / Ouvidor? It only lasted a short time but it was nice. More upscale than Cancun or 65 at the time. Had my birthday there in 2013 and Mr. Catra (RIP) performed, it was dope!

My thinking on all "trash" spots is "on any given day". That's part of the thrill, not knowing who you might see. I've seen girls in VM one day and Monte Carlo the next. Literally. And vice versa!

There are still a few places that are all you can eat (sem balanca) on Rua Sete de Setembro. It's $13 reais with 2 pieces of meat. A steal!

Did you ever go to Niteroi next to Caixa Economica? They called it New Jack City LOL. I miss that place too. Room 326 had some dimes. Straight hood though, we'd all go to baile funks together and have a blast. Good times.[/QUOTE]Wow you bring back some good memories, thanks for sharing. I stumbled onto Aquarius by accident in 2007, had a very memorable session with a petite morena too. And I had no idea Mr. Catra passed away.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2554601]Yeah man, been around the block in Rio more than a few times. Been places and done things I'm sure no other gringo has. What would you like to know?[/QUOTE]Tab A, Slot be type posts, me too posts and all the discuss on how it works elsewhere are pretty meaningless to me. Firsthand experiences of where you have been, what you saw or did are helpful.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2555617]I'm in my mid 40's and would have trouble reliably getting it fully up more than twice in a day (or even once fully covered- ugh).

A little while back I was reading the Medellin page and a poster was relating his weekend trip down which he described as wall to wall fuck-fest with 5-8 girls in one day all in quick sequence- day after day after day- aaand while "partying". Also his buddy was in the same suite doing the exact same thing. Hmm. Am I the only middle age monger in the house who is not some sort of Priapic Olympian? Vagabundo I don't doubt the veracity of your reporting, but it could be some of those Medellin posters are stretching it a bit? If not, guess it's time for me to look into that blue pill.....[/QUOTE]The blue pill allows you to point and insert but not to shoot. So the dudes you were referring to I suspect as many have admitted are banging many but coming in few.

I don't regret a day I've spent in Brazil.

On the other hand, I regret spending too much time working in the rich world.

I dose up with 2 ED drugs before going into action.

I do manage 4-5 orgasms a day with some regulars who do BBFSCIP.

I hate latex.

I am no superman.

Just a man using my balls while they still produce semen.

My second load the other day into Nicole was not what it would have been decades ago.

That said, and as I said, I don't regret a girl I've banged in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2556037]The blue pill allows you to point and insert but not to shoot. So the dudes you were referring to I suspect as many have admitted are banging many but coming in few.[/QUOTE]

[URL]barravipsrio.com[/URL]

As discussed is pretty much facebook for Transamerica.

Sara M (not her real name) for example is on 19th floor.

Etc.

That's where all the brancas are.

Brazil has sorted all the porn star / model quality white girls into this building.

Which is why I live here and may for a while.

BTW, here's how to go to the pool at Transamerica.

1. You are a weed dealer back in your home country (even if you aren't pretend to be) (and like safado69, say you are pro ganja, even if you don't smoke, like safado69 which is a wise policy, and be like fucking brazilian women is my drug).

2. You are a pro photographer and are at her service (DSLR for DSL.).

3. Be in your best shape.

4. Be decisive. You see a girl you want, go get her number, and fuck her. Don't give me this I like having a long conversation and getting to know your soul crap. Show her your hardon in your board shorts as aggressively as law permits, and make it happen.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2555942]And hopefully they will be in mine when I get there Monday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2555617]I'm in my mid 40's and would have trouble reliably getting it fully up more than twice in a day (or even once fully covered- ugh). A little while back I was reading the Medellin page and a poster was relating his weekend trip down which he described as wall to wall fuck-fest with 5-8 girls in one day all in quick sequence- day after day after day- aaand while "partying".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2556037]The blue pill allows you to point and insert but not to shoot. So the dudes you were referring to I suspect as many have admitted are banging many but coming in few.[/QUOTE]The Art of Sport fucking: Hold off as long as you can. I did that at the German FKK's. And The Colombian nose candy keeps the party going!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2556065]...I do manage 4-5 orgasms a day with some regulars who do BBFSCIP.....[/QUOTE]When I was in my 20's I used to have 10 orgasms a day. Now in my 60's I fuck 10 a day but come in 1.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2556250]When I was in my 20's I used to have 10 orgasms a day. Now in my 60's I fuck 10 a day but come in 1.[/QUOTE]I fuck 2 to 3 a day, day after day, and nut multiple times in each session. That's cost effective for me in terms of how much money I'm spending, and it matches up well with my drive. What I love about where I'm at now is that I feel no particular "pressure" to choose somebody to fuck. I've fucked so many hot girls at this stage that I'm quite content to wait for one to come along that I like, versus trying to fuck everything that moves in the club. If I see 2 to 3 in a day that I want, great! And if I don't see any, that's fine too. There's always the next day at the next club!

I have Monique over for pernoite.

A ISG member dropped by today. We will monger tomorrow.

I am paying her 250 pernoite.

I have many many more girls lined up at 300 or 400 pernoite. Bare.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2556065]I don't regret a day I've spent in Brazil.

On the other hand, I regret spending too much time working in the rich world.

I dose up with 2 ED drugs before going into action.

I do manage 4-5 orgasms a day with some regulars who do BBFSCIP.

I hate latex.

I am no superman.

Just a man using my balls while they still produce semen.

My second load the other day into Nicole was not what it would have been decades ago.

That said, and as I said, I don't regret a girl I've banged in Brazil.[/QUOTE]What is your dosing for the ED drugs? I plan to hit up 4 x4 on Thursday night and want to enjoy a few girls if possible.

One generic Cialis.

One generic Viagra.

A Brazilian or two.

And endless dinheiro.

Haha.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2556431]What is your dosing for the ED drugs? I plan to hit up 4 x4 on Thursday night and want to enjoy a few girls if possible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2556270]I fuck 2 to 3 a day, day after day, and nut multiple times in each session. That's cost effective for me in terms of how much money I'm spending, and it matches up well with my drive. What I love about where I'm at now is that I feel no particular "pressure" to choose somebody to fuck. I've fucked so many hot girls at this stage that I'm quite content to wait for one to come along that I like, versus trying to fuck everything that moves in the club. If I see 2 to 3 in a day that I want, great! And if I don't see any, that's fine too. There's always the next day at the next club![/QUOTE]If it were ever possible to do a scientific study of the measurable libido and "virility" of the posters on ISG and to measure it against the mean / median of the average population I wonder how many standard deviations we would be from the middle of the bell curve? It has to be true that individuals who become avid working girl-mongers are much more sexually driven that the average guy and have arranged their life accordingly. The "normal" man does not have sex with 2-3 women a day but that seems to be nothing unusual here. I would also guess that the average income would be higher as would the number of children and spouses.

It goes without saying that female SW also self-selects for sexual enthusiasm. Some of these women just love dick and it doesn't even matter how disgusting the dude it's attached too. There is a known fetish among women for men who are grotesquely ugly with large cocks. Being fucked by a monster can be hot.

It's a fascinating world.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2556447]If it were ever possible to do a scientific study of the measurable libido and "virility" of the posters on ISG and to measure it against the mean / median of the average population I wonder how many standard deviations we would be from the middle of the bell curve? It has to be true that individuals who become avid working girl-mongers are much more sexually driven that the average guy and have arranged their life accordingly. The "normal" man does not have sex with 2-3 women a day but that seems to be nothing unusual here. I would also guess that the average income would be higher as would the number of children and spouses.

It goes without saying that female SW also self-selects for sexual enthusiasm. Some of these women just love dick and it doesn't even matter how disgusting the dude it's attached too. There is a known fetish among women for men who are grotesquely ugly with large cocks. Being fucked by a monster can be hot.

It's a fascinating world.[/QUOTE]This post made me laugh out loud! Particularly the last part! LOLOL! I've always been horny and "sexual". Even as a little boy haha!

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Was wondering with all these sperm spewing schlongs, do you have to register them? Do you need a license to spill?

If you went on Jeopardy would you immediately go for the category Potent Potables? Do you get regular emails and mailings from sperm banks seeking donations?

Do girls whom has seen you previously bring slickers and boots?

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2556447]...There is a known fetish among women for men who are grotesquely ugly with large cocks. Being fucked by a monster can be hot....[/QUOTE]And here was I thinking that the fetish was for my money and not my grotesqueness and monstrous dick.

Yesterday I went downtown with Vagabundo because he had to take care of some business. When he left to go home I was about to start walking around a guy hit me up with a flyer. He asked if I wanted him to run me over there and I said sure. It was just across the street. He said that if I added them to whatsapp, then they would send pictures of the chicks and prices and shit.

Entered this stupid ass Brazilian building. You have to walk in circles in order to get to the bottom floor where the elevators are. Who would design, approve, and build some shit like that? Walked in the office and was led to a bedroom. 4 chicks came in 1 at a time. I went with the first chick who was 19, light skinned, and looked straight out of a Penthouse magazine. For a change I was not cheap with the 30 minute plan and instead went with the 1 hour for 150 reais.

It was definitely worth it. I asked her about all night and she said she did not know because she has never done it before. She said it goes by the hour. I said no, separate from here, when you get off work. She just kept thinking and I kept trying to get a price out of her. She said 1000. Time to take a shower and get dressed! I guess like some guys say, it is better to offer them the price you want to pay.

1 hour 150, 40 min 130, 30 min 110, 20 min 80.

Damn.. I just saw they have a website. I was wondering why the receptionist kept saying massage. We didn't do any massaging. I think I might have gotten cheated. Manu was my girl.

Hey,

I'm traveling to Rio at the end of July this year and I have always wanted to get a chance with Darlene Amaro. Does anyone have any contact info on her or know how I could get in contact with her? All help is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2556439]One generic Cialis.

One generic Viagra.

A Brazilian or two.

And endless dinheiro.

Haha.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Will try it out on Thursday and report back. If you care to make it to 4 x4 on Thursday night. First beer is on me!!

I will probably be the only Indian guy speaking Portuguese in that place.

I could use a 4*4 recce.

Count me in.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2556719]Thanks. Will try it out on Thursday and report back. If you care to make it to 4 x4 on Thursday night. First beer is on me!!

I will probably be the only Indian guy speaking Portuguese in that place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2555997]Tab A, Slot be type posts, me too posts and all the discuss on how it works elsewhere are pretty meaningless to me. Firsthand experiences of where you have been, what you saw or did are helpful.[/QUOTE]I've seen your posts / comments and can tell you've been around yourself. I'm sure we've met or at least seen each other around. Would you happen to have a kid in Nova Iguacu?

[QUOTE=BeenBob;2555964]Wow you bring back some good memories, thanks for sharing. I stumbled onto Aquarius by accident in 2007, had a very memorable session with a petite morena too. And I had no idea Mr. Catra passed away.[/QUOTE]Sure man. 2006 - 2013 were pretty much the golden years IMO. The exchange rate is much better now but prices have went way up so the bottom line difference isn't that big. Mr Catra died of stomach cancer in Sept. 2018. Dude left a straight tribe behind. At least 33 kids. Good dude. He'd be performing at 502 one night and Rio's American Bar in Bonsucceso the next. Very humble guy. Wish we'd taken a picture that night at Face Club.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2556738]I've seen your posts / comments and can tell you've been around yourself. I'm sure we've met or at least seen each other around. Would you happen to have a kid in Nova Iguacu?[/QUOTE]From your statement, it does sound like we have met. As for the child, I wish she was my kid. She is an absolute delight. I just happen to know the family well.

One of the benefits of learning Portuguese and spending more than an occasional week in Brazil is that you get to know the locals and if you are lucky, the sharing of a laugh or a drink together. When most of you talk about Help, it is the girls. For me, it was my dear friend, the Chicklet Lady. I would always stop to buy Chicklets and I would always offer her 1 Real. She would make a funny face, offer up a hand gesture and tell me it was 2, 2 Reais. I would pretend to protest a little then reluctantly hand her the 2 Reais and call her a thief. She would just smile and laugh. One of my most treasured photos from Rio is me with my arm around the Chicklet Lady. Brasil Nut, you write like you did not just come, screw and leave but you actually experienced. It is those experiences that interest me.

Rambling On.

I woke up with Monique.

We banged.

I invited Mr. E over, and we three ubered to drop off Monique.

Mr E and I went to TDM33.

3206 - super hot girls like Stephany there.

2414 - good selection, we were referred to 2210.

2210 -- two nice girls, nice music, jazz, very classy.

2106 -- Nicole choice chica there.

703 -- we saw Nicole there, I think.

Anyway, after we ate at the Kuwaiti place downstairs.

We ubered over to VM.

I immediately found a lean morena, 18 year old, she gave me her pussy and ass bare. I paid 85 reais, and tipped her a very generous 100 for her bare asshole. But that's nothing, like 60 dollars, money well spent for a 18 year old ass.

So, then we ubered over to Perola Negra. No chicas on duty, so we walked over to Olegario Maciel where I got to know a top tier operator and we decided to go on a date to the Ganja Coffeeshop, which is like a slam dunk for a fuck.

So happy.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2556742]Sure man. 2006 - 2013 were pretty much the golden years IMO. The exchange rate is much better now but prices have went way up so the bottom line difference isn't that big. Mr Catra died of stomach cancer in Sept. 2018. Dude left a straight tribe behind. At least 33 kids. Good dude. He'd be performing at 502 one night and Rio's American Bar in Bonsucceso the next. Very humble guy. Wish we'd taken a picture that night at Face Club.[/QUOTE]Sad to hear that. I seen him perform at Club Six back in June 2007. You took me back down memory lane with a lot of your earlier posts. Cheers my friend.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2556742]Sure man. 2006 - 2013 were pretty much the golden years IMO.....[/QUOTE]For me the golden years ended circa 2008, that's when I stopped having tears in my eyes when returning home from Brazil.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2556431]What is your dosing for the ED drugs? I plan to hit up 4 x4 on Thursday night and want to enjoy a few girls if possible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2556439]One generic Cialis. One generic Viagra. A Brazilian or two. And endless dinheiro.[/QUOTE]Cialis is good for 36 hrs. Near the 36 HR mark, take 1 viagra. Take another Cialis the next day and repeat.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2556784]From your statement, it does sound like we have met. As for the child, I wish she was my kid. She is an absolute delight. I just happen to know the family well. [/QUOTE]Are you talking about the chiclete lady that's really light skinned with a little afro and always wore a black robe? She's like a witch or something? I remember her. I also remember Suzy the flower lady. Her and her nephew used to clean my place for me. Did a great job for a fair price. Heard she's still around but I don't really go to Mabs so I haven't seen her.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556610]Yesterday I went downtown with Vagabundo because he had to take care of some business. When he left to go home I was about to start walking around a guy hit me up with a flyer. He asked if I wanted him to run me over there and I said sure. It was just across the street. He said that if I added them to whatsapp, then they would send pictures of the chicks and prices and shit.

Entered this stupid ass Brazilian building. You have to walk in circles in order to get to the bottom floor where the elevators are. Who would design, approve, and build some shit like that? Walked in the office and was led to a bedroom. 4 chicks came in 1 at a time. I went with the first chick who was 19, light skinned, and looked straight out of a Penthouse magazine. For a change I was not cheap with the 30 minute plan and instead went with the 1 hour for 150 reais.

It was definitely worth it. I asked her about all night and she said she did not know because she has never done it before. She said it goes by the hour. I said no, separate from here, when you get off work. She just kept thinking and I kept trying to get a price out of her. She said 1000. Time to take a shower and get dressed! I guess like some guys say, it is better to offer them the price you want to pay.

1 hour 150, 40 min 130, 30 min 110, 20 min 80.

Damn.. I just saw they have a website. I was wondering why the receptionist kept saying massage. We didn't do any massaging. I think I might have gotten cheated. Manu was my girl.[/QUOTE]Yep, had a few amazing sessions there with this spinner morena named jaja. Lot of talent. And the building design is so fucking stupid LOL. Walking in circles upon entry. Ask the young elevator dude next time you're there for the good salas, he has a lot of secret ones.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2556880]For me the golden years ended circa 2008, that's when I stopped having tears in my eyes when returning home from Brazil.[/QUOTE]Now that's funny. LMAO.

[QUOTE=Forteixxi;2556638]Hey,

I'm traveling to Rio at the end of July this year and I have always wanted to get a chance with Darlene Amaro. Does anyone have any contact info on her or know how I could get in contact with her? All help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Bruh. Hate to bust your bubble but that ship done sailed a longtime ago LOL. Darlene is 46 and looks every bit of it. You don't want that when you can find something better and half the age. All the porno ho's are pushing 40 or over. Darlene, Luana, Joyce, Monica Santhiago, Aaliah. They were apart of the golden era but that party's over. Start a new one.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2556895]Are you talking about the chiclete lady that's really light skinned with a little afro and always wore a black robe? She's like a witch or something? I remember her. I also remember Suzy the flower lady. Her and her nephew used to clean my place for me. Did a great job for a fair price. Heard she's still around but I don't really go to Mabs so I haven't seen her.[/QUOTE]How do you know she's a witch?

No. The one I am talking about was the original. The little old lady who used to always be right outside the entrance to Help and would ask you wanted to buy Chicklets.

Then there was the guy with the Polaroid camera. Lots of respect for those trying to earn a living instead of looking for a handout.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2556784]When most of you talk about Help, it is the girls. For me, it was my dear friend, the Chicklet Lady.[/QUOTE]Not sure about which lady you are talking about, but if it is the Black lady with the afro, then she still goes up to Mabs but has cut her hair.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2556880]For me the golden years ended circa 2008, that's when I stopped having tears in my eyes when returning home from Brazil.[/QUOTE]Same here! I used to be on the verge of sobbing every time I departed Rio or São Paulo. No other destination had that effect on me.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2556904]Bruh. Hate to bust your bubble but that ship done sailed a longtime ago LOL. Darlene is 46 and looks every bit of it. You don't want that when you can find something better and half the age. All the porno ho's are pushing 40 or over. Darlene, Luana, Joyce, Monica Santhiago, Aaliah. They were apart of the golden era but that party's over. Start a new one.[/QUOTE]I actually got in contact with Darlene Amaro yesterday through WhatsApp, yes she's gained weighted but she still looks good and she's not really in the life anymore (her words) but she gave me her personal number and told me to reach out when I get to Rio.

On my flight back from Rio in 2016, I did literally cry. In sadness. For my dick. Haha. It was just a minute, as we were getting back to rich world airspace.

Ll that precum was backing up and dripped out of my eyeballs, haha.

Rich world pussy prison so sucks when you are a man.

As Hemingway wrote of Paris, when you've been in Rio as a man, it stays with you, for Rio is a movable feast.

[QUOTE=Combo;2556910]Same here! I used to be on the verge of sobbing every time I departed Rio or So Paulo. No other destination had that effect on me.[/QUOTE]

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I'm like shiiiite, get a new talent. Like any of the girls on [URL]bradmontana.com[/URL], like Yasmin mineira.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2556904]Bruh. Hate to bust your bubble but that ship done sailed a longtime ago LOL. Darlene is 46 and looks every bit of it. You don't want that when you can find something better and half the age. All the porno ho's are pushing 40 or over. Darlene, Luana, Joyce, Monica Santhiago, Aaliah. They were apart of the golden era but that party's over. Start a new one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2556908]The one I am talking about was the original. The little old lady who used to always be right outside the entrance to Help and would ask you wanted to buy Chicklets.[/QUOTE]A lovely old lady with a lot of humour. Often made funny faces and once lifted up her dress, which was a bit scary. One time she broke up a fight between two gringos.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2556908]How do you know she's a witch?

No. The one I am talking about was the original. The little old lady who used to always be right outside the entrance to Help and would ask you wanted to buy Chicklets.

Then there was the guy with the Polaroid camera. Lots of respect for those trying to earn a living instead of looking for a handout.[/QUOTE]The Chiclette lady I'm referring to was supposedly heavily into macumba which is essentially voodoo or witchcraft. There were some weird reports on her. I remember the camera guy with the moustache. He was cool. There was another older one who mostly took photos of the girls but I heard he was an arrogant dick. Pretty sure he died. A number of the old guard have passed on. Big Jimmy and his bodyguard Eli, Lou, Marcus, and Ted. My man Owen is still going strong though. They could nuke Rio and he'd crawl out of the rubble with the roaches LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2556880]For me the golden years ended circa 2008, that's when I stopped having tears in my eyes when returning home from Brazil.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Combo;2556910]Same here! I used to be on the verge of sobbing every time I departed Rio or So Paulo. No other destination had that effect on me.[/QUOTE]Well I am leaving RJ tonight and while I am not about to start sobbing, I did shed a tear in 2002 when I left Phnom Penh and headed back to BKK, LOL, but I am a little bummed leaving Brazil. I just getting in the groove down here and another month would be perfect. Even the Barra Praia is saying, "don't go" and it was the calmest most inviting surf I have seen in a month.

But every trip has to end and it is better to leave while still wanting more than to stay until you are glad to get out. When I look back on the last 5.5 weeks I am amazed at what a maniac I was for flying into a locked down RJ in the midst of a variant pandemic surge. But I was fed up with postponing trips and waiting around doing nothing. Anyway this trip has to qualify as the strangest trip I have ever been on and yet it was still great thanks to the Barra VIPs escort girls and in SP the clinicas which somehow managed to stay open when everything else was forced to close down. Code red. BTW, I have never gone the escort route before except for one torrential downpour night in Manila 3 or 4 years ago. I am pretty sure that if everything had been open in RJ and SP when I arrived I would not have used them this trip, but I am glad I did. The ones I met turned out to be very sexy gals and great in bed.

And as far as these last 8 days in RJ with everything open again: it was a great way to end things on a high note. It became a mix of checking out a few Termas and repeating with my favorite call girls. And this is where I will start off on my next visit IE the Termas and a couple favorite call girls. So, right now I calculate the odds of my returning to Brazil vrs heading to Thailand in October at 80% Brazil / 20% Thailand. Sounds good to me. Brazil in Oct. I can't wait.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2556881]Cialis is good for 36 hrs. Near the 36 HR mark, take 1 viagra. Take another Cialis the next day and repeat.[/QUOTE]I tried taking Cialis a couple times in the past. It would make me lightheaded followed by a headache. I rarely have headaches.

The 36 hour efficacy sounds great though.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2556938]A lovely old lady with a lot of humour. Often made funny faces and once lifted up her dress, which was a bit scary. One time she broke up a fight between two gringos.[/QUOTE]Now you are just trying to make me jealous. And, to think of all the Chicklets I bought. LOL.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2556949]Well I am leaving RJ tonight and while I am not about to start sobbing, I did shed a tear in 2002 when I left Phnom Penh and headed back to BKK, LOL, but I am a little bummed leaving Brazil. I just getting in the groove down here and another month would be perfect. Even the Barra Praia is saying, "don't go" and it was the calmest most inviting surf I have seen in a month.

But every trip has to end and it is better to leave while still wanting more than to stay until you are glad to get out. When I look back on the last 5.5 weeks I am amazed at what a maniac I was for flying into a locked down RJ in the midst of a variant pandemic surge. But I was fed up with postponing trips and waiting around doing nothing. Anyway this trip has to qualify as the strangest trip I have ever been on and yet it was still great thanks to the Barra VIPs escort girls and in SP the clinicas which somehow managed to stay open when everything else was forced to close down. Code red. BTW, I have never gone the escort route before except for one torrential downpour night in Manila 3 or 4 years ago. I am pretty sure that if everything had been open in RJ and SP when I arrived I would not have used them this trip, but I am glad I did. The ones I met turned out to be very sexy gals and great in bed.

And as far as these last 8 days in RJ with everything open again: it was a great way to end things on a high note. It became a mix of checking out a few Termas and repeating with my favorite call girls. And this is where I will start off on my next visit IE the Termas and a couple favorite call girls. So, right now I calculate the odds of my returning to Brazil vrs heading to Thailand in October at 80% Brazil / 20% Thailand. Sounds good to me. Brazil in Oct. I can't wait.[/QUOTE]Natty I am so happy you have experienced Brasil. There are so many guys that cling to what they have in Bangkok or FKK and insist it is best. And it IS best. Until you come to Brasil. LOL. And you didn't even do Scandallo. The single best place for girls on planet earth. Next time for that!

But happy to see you join the many who have seen the light of Brasil. It is sooooo bright!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2557004]Natty I am so happy you have experienced Brasil. There are so many guys that cling to what they have in Bangkok or FKK and insist it is best. And it IS best. Until you come to Brasil. LOL. And you didn't even do Scandallo. The single best place for girls on planet earth. Next time for that!

But happy to see you join the many who have seen the light of Brasil. It is sooooo bright![/QUOTE]And he didn't even see it at its best. Nothing close. Think about it.

Are there any areas of Rio with more music I'm really coming down to catch some vibes and maybe jam a little bit on drums. Any suggestions would be welcome.

VM.

I took the bus from Transamerica to TIjuca.

I moved on foot to hotel gallant, got a biz card.

I walked through the area, near the old CLub Red Light, which was in my experience the best.

This was 2013.

For whatever combination of information technology, demographics, economics, the optimal combination of bunda was achieved in that 4 story structure, number 71 perhaps.

The smoking deck on the roof was cool.

The libertines as the locals call it would gather. The best girls would drop in and entertain the clients, mostly locals, many of them nerd writer foristas on the local forums like hotforum.

Anyway, I took that trip down a solitary memory lane.

I walked a block out of the way around motel Malaga, picked up business cards there too.

Malaga is a part of Spain, and an allusion to Europe here in Brazil, and the location of one of the two go to agencies, Karla models or its sister, I forget which.

I never did help, and I don't regret it. Malaga and barao were the equivalents for me, along with mosaico, club red light, the tier 1, tier 2, and trash termas, and of course vila mimosa, which was my target tonight.

I was supposed to get a certain morena that I did yesterday.

I found instead Midori, who I got for a hour for 120 reais.

We fucked for a half hour, all three holes.

She then played the usual games to cheat me out of the other half. But it is what it is. I took her out for a acai afterwards, sometimes that is as good as it gets.

I got a car back to barra.

As always, there are more targets on my list than hours or days in newtonian time. A top pick is a ruiva (redhead) at TDM33. Ruivas and Mulatas, and Negras. It's time to mix it up.

Monger on fellas.

Is a good choice near VM.

50 reais.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2556954]I tried taking Cialis a couple times in the past. It would make me lightheaded followed by a headache. I rarely have headaches.

The 36 hour efficacy sounds great though.[/QUOTE]I liked how Cialis made me feel. For me, it was like a real aphrodisiac unlike Viagra that just gets it up. But a few times I took it, I experienced palpitations. So there are side effects for some of us, better not to push it.

I plan on visiting RIO as part of my mongering reseach. Scandillo? Does it have rooms, take out, like an FKK or what? And how much?

I hope to samplee the rainbow, every hole, threesomes, you name it. Hot chicas sounds like paradise after 16 months in sex prison. Getting from Seattle is quite a hike. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2556949]Well I am leaving RJ tonight and while I am not about to start sobbing, I did shed a tear in 2002 when I left Phnom Penh and headed back to BKK, LOL, but I am a little bummed leaving Brazil. I just getting in the groove down here and another month would be perfect. Even the Barra Praia is saying, "don't go" and it was the calmest most inviting surf I have seen in a month.

But every trip has to end and it is better to leave while still wanting more than to stay until you are glad to get out. When I look back on the last 5.5 weeks I am amazed at what a maniac I was for flying into a locked down RJ in the midst of a variant pandemic surge. But I was fed up with postponing trips and waiting around doing nothing. Anyway this trip has to qualify as the strangest trip I have ever been on and yet it was still great thanks to the Barra VIPs escort girls and in SP the clinicas which somehow managed to stay open when everything else was forced to close down. Code red. BTW, I have never gone the escort route before except for one torrential downpour night in Manila 3 or 4 years ago. I am pretty sure that if everything had been open in RJ and SP when I arrived I would not have used them this trip, but I am glad I did. The ones I met turned out to be very sexy gals and great in bed.

And as far as these last 8 days in RJ with everything open again: it was a great way to end things on a high note. It became a mix of checking out a few Termas and repeating with my favorite call girls. And this is where I will start off on my next visit IE the Termas and a couple favorite call girls. So, right now I calculate the odds of my returning to Brazil vrs heading to Thailand in October at 80% Brazil / 20% Thailand. Sounds good to me. Brazil in Oct. I can't wait.[/QUOTE]LOL Thanks for your reports and your adventures! You're a major part of why I decided to go to Brazil. And I love Thailand, too. So if you're feeling that way (80/20) about Brazil / TH, I can't wait for my experience.

BTW, what's the diff between clinica vs termas?

Again, congrats on a brave and wonderful trip!

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2557107].BTW, what's the diff between clinica vs termas?[/QUOTE]A clinica is set up like a massage therapist office. You go into your own room and are presented chicks. The one you choose comes in and you get right to business. After that you go back to work or continue on with your day.

A termas is like a bar or club. Everyone is gathered into one party area, usually wearing robes and flip flops while chicks are wearing bikinis or lingerie. You are relaxing and drinking and talking shit. At anytime you can take the girl that you choose to a room. Termas are more expensive.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2557107]BTW, what's the diff between clinica vs termas?[/QUOTE]A clinica is a naughty massage place. A termas is set up like a club / bar, the ladies are wearing bikinis or lingerie. They have rooms on site.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2557135]A clinica is a naughty massage place. A termas is set up like a club / bar, the ladies are wearing bikinis or lingerie. They have rooms on site.[/QUOTE]Yep, termas are also different than Sao Paulo boates like Scandallo, Bomboa, etc. The boates give you somewhat of an allusion that you are in a real nightclub. There is no question what a termas is.

While some nicer termas might offer food, massage and sauna, these services are usually poor. Most of us just go to drink, hang out with the termas girls and session with a girl.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2557058]

As always, there are more targets on my list than hours or days in newtonian time. A top pick is a ruiva (redhead) at TDM33. Ruivas and Mulatas, and Negras. It's time to mix it up.

Monger on fellas.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a plan for Friday night. Ruivas (got one lined up for the weekend on SP) so maybe a loira, a morena and a negra!!

Hey fellas,

Going to be doing a 2 week trip in Brazil. Just got back from Costa Rica and it was OK. How do I get to / from Barra de Tujica? I want to check out the beach there and Transamerica. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of info out there. Appreciate it!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2557155]Yep, termas are also different than Sao Paulo boates like Scandallo, Bomboa, etc. The boates give you somewhat of an allusion that you are in a real nightclub. There is no question what a termas is.

While some nicer termas might offer food, massage and sauna, these services are usually poor. Most of us just go to drink, hang out with the termas girls and session with a girl.[/QUOTE]I have fond memories of the buffet they used to put out in that side room at L'uomo. May not have had anything to do w the quality of the food.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2557107] . . . BTW, what's the diff between clinica vs termas? [/QUOTE]Quick note, that clinics are typically associated with SP. Prives are Rio's (RJ) version of SP clinics, albeit a somewhat watered down version, with only a few offering real massage therapeutic services. Also termas are typically synonymous with Rio.

Varying degrees of quality termas (ie. Some w/strip shows), boates and night club/gentlemen clubs (w/P4P action) can be found in both cities. With SP probably having the higher price points for the level of "quality and service", you may want. YMMV on either destination, depending on you preferences.

There is a big difference between SP and RJ.

RJ has hiking to cool waterfalls and beaches in Barra all in the same day, and termas like Perola Negra literally on the beach.

SP is a 20 million soul megacity, financial center, and the pricing on top tier clinicas like Miruna (240 hour?) is almost twice as much as an hour in a prive in Rio, like TDM33, with the same talent, eg, pornstar marcella shultz in RB156 within last few years, or Kamila Werneck in Miruna in SP.

It's a matter of personal choice, but I decided SP is a city I don't really want to go back to.

The top tier talent from SP and from all of Brazil comes to Rio, and the ones that can usually stay at Transamerica in Barra, which tells you what you need to know.

[URL]https://www.associacaomediterraneo.com/[/URL]

Is the condo website. I'm done trying to assist people getting in here, when I don't really have the ability to do so. But good luck. It's IMHO the best spot in Rio, with a luxury bus to centro daily.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2557255]Quick note, that clinics are typically associated with SP. Prives are Rio's (RJ) version of SP clinics, albeit a somewhat watered down version, with only a few offering real massage therapeutic services. Also termas are typically synonymous with Rio.

Varying degrees of quality termas (ie. Some w/strip shows), boates and night club/gentlemen clubs (w/P4P action) can be found in both cities. With SP probably having the higher price points for the level of "quality and service", you may want. YMMV on either destination, depending on you preferences.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2557054]Are there any areas of Rio with more music I'm really coming down to catch some vibes and maybe jam a little bit on drums. Any suggestions would be welcome.[/QUOTE]Lapa as one of suggestions:

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapa[/URL], _Rio_de_Janeiro#Music.

As always know the areas to avoid:

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2021/05/06/tiroteio-deixa-feridos-no-jacarezinho.ghtml[/URL]

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2557072]I plan on visiting RIO as part of my mongering reseach. Scandillo? Does it have rooms, take out, like an FKK or what? And how much?

I hope to samplee the rainbow, every hole, threesomes, you name it. Hot chicas sounds like paradise after 16 months in sex prison. Getting from Seattle is quite a hike. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]Scandalo is in SP, not Rio.

First decide where you want to go. I actually like Sao Paulo, but I'd pick Rio for my first voyage if you want it to feel like a vacation.

If it's Rio, then the simplest choices are American via Miami or United via Houston.

For SP, there are more options. Go here: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A3o_Paulo/Guarulhos_International_Airport[/URL]#Passenger.

Good intel.

On Jacarezinho.

One of the girls from Club 116, the former Secret Terma, said she was at this favela. Tells you where the talent is from, haha.

Mr E and I drove past this in an uber just this week, kinda like Admiral Greer and Jack Ryan with a local source, haha.

[QUOTE=Questner;2557289]Lapa as one of suggestions:

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapa[/URL], _Rio_de_Janeiro#Music.

As always know the areas to avoid:

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2021/05/06/tiroteio-deixa-feridos-no-jacarezinho.ghtml[/URL][/QUOTE]

Recreio is where papatinho lives.

That biz is all online now.

Follow papatino and pineapple music on Instagram.

For that matter, whenever you go into a local where you want to get pussy:

1. get the WIFI.

2. get the girl's Instagram.

You can usually talk to her on IG.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2557054]Are there any areas of Rio with more music I'm really coming down to catch some vibes and maybe jam a little bit on drums. Any suggestions would be welcome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;2557217]Hey fellas,

Going to be doing a 2 week trip in Brazil. Just got back from Costa Rica and it was OK. How do I get to / from Barra de Tujica? I want to check out the beach there and Transamerica. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of info out there. Appreciate it![/QUOTE]As it's been discussed at length, members might not respond. Do a search on Vagabundo1's posts. Read his Rio posts back from January. He spends a lot of time in Barra and writes about it frequently.

If you are a newbie to Rio, you might want to start your trip in the middle of Copacabana. If you are staying for more than a week, you can decide to move to Barra because you want something different after five or six nights in Copa.

There is live music at Perola Negra, fridays late like 22 h to 04 h, and probably other nights.

I doubt they will let you jump in with the main band, but money talks. During the off hours I am certain you could figure a way in.

Generally in barra, near posto 1, there are lots of live bands on the beach.

I would suggest there is more likely to be more and more local live music out towards recreio, where papatinho, a popular local rapper / surfer lives, and where one ISG member who shall remain secret (who had coined the 'secret terma') works for papatinho, who lives in some cheap surfer apartment, and just wants to surf and rap, his success notwithstanding.

This secret ISG member also does work for the pineapple brand of rappers, which is a big influencer.

Count me in to jam on drums. I have always wanted to play more drums which I did for 7 years in the band. We're on a mission from God near Cidade de Deus!

[QUOTE=Kafka;2557054]Are there any areas of Rio with more music I'm really coming down to catch some vibes and maybe jam a little bit on drums. Any suggestions would be welcome.[/QUOTE]

It seems the new opening price by girls on BarraVIP is 500 r. Anyone know if this is the new market price or is negotiable? Is it still possible with 300 R?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2557411]There is live music at Perola Negra, fridays late like 22 h to 04 h, and probably other nights.

I doubt they will let you jump in with the main band, but money talks. During the off hours I am certain you could figure a way in.

Generally in barra, near posto 1, there are lots of live bands on the beach.

I would suggest there is more likely to be more and more local live music out towards recreio, where papatinho, a popular local rapper / surfer lives, and where one ISG member who shall remain secret (who had coined the 'secret terma') works for papatinho, who lives in some cheap surfer apartment, and just wants to surf and rap, his success notwithstanding.

This secret ISG member also does work for the pineapple brand of rappers, which is a big influencer.

Count me in to jam on drums. I have always wanted to play more drums which I did for 7 years in the band. We're on a mission from God near Cidade de Deus![/QUOTE]I arrive 5/31 for a month and bringing my Alto and Flute, feel free to update me any available sessions. Muito obrigado!

The start to my "rock out with your cock out" summer started extremely well and I doubt I will be able to top last night. Would I want to? Not for a while. Will it happen again? Definitely!!

After a long and tiring Wednesday of not getting test results back in time and changing flights to accommodate the results, I finally hopped on a plane to Rio on Thursday. Flying from El Paso to Dallas to Miami and then into Rio. I was tired and had to head straight into the mountains to visit the tannery near Itaipava. Work is finished and I head back to the JW in Copa. Get dressed and showered and leave with my agent to 4 x4 and we arrive between before 6 pm. Yes. That is early and I needed that time to scope out my choices and start getting myself ready for the night ahead. Like I said earlier in the thread. I was going to try to get one of each.

There were a few girls when we walked in. I just put a robe over my clothes and and got a table. Ordered a beer and watched the talent go by. There was some good talent. My agent started talking to a negra and she would be one of the four that I sessioned with by the end of the night. I was talking to a fair skinned 18 ye old and told them about my plans. The girls got excited and helped me find the other. A loira and another mixed tall girl with green eyes and curly dirty brown hair. She was the hottest of the four.

Went with the loira first and had a feeling she wouldn't be that great but I need to shoot my first load and move forward so the stress would be relieved. Got the cheapest room and booked 1 hour. We were done in less than 30 since she was all professional and I just didn't feel the connection.

Sat out with the other two girls and we ended up throwing a bunch drinks down and finally I was ready to go for the second round after the viagra kicked in. Took the negra and curly haired girl to a bigger room and paid a much higher price since I ended up with two girls. But it was definitely worth it. Both agreed to BBFS after I showed them my tests and I was able to interchange. Had a girl sitting on my face, one sucking my dick, and switch. Then one would ride my face while another would ride my dick. SWITCH!! This went on 1. 5 hours and in the end, the girls were pretty strict on time but it was fun.

Went back out to the main room and it got packed. Maybe 50 girls and 20 guys in that small room. I guess I will see if the vaccinations work.

Took the 18 yr old about 1. 5 hrs later after she was a bit tipsy and more open and animated. She also agreed to BBFS and her service was right in the middle. About what you expect from a 18 yr old who is still learning.

Met Vagabundo for a short time since I was both girls at the time and then I took them to a room. Next time, we will meet for a beer outside to chat.

Total damage for the night. Around 3500 reais. Worth it? For me. Yes. I don't have the luxury to spend days in Rio. All my trips to Brazil are for work. So if I get to monger at night. I want to go big and then go home. 🤣.

[QUOTE=Combo;2557247]I have fond memories of the buffet they used to put out in that side room at L'uomo. May not have had anything to do w the quality of the food.[/QUOTE]God I miss this place. It was my first boate experience and still my favourite. There were always a selection of stunning women and they always (IMHO) had an enthusiasm for their work that seemed to be unrivalled in other establishments. Having said that, even though I have been coming to Rio since 2006 I have never been to 4 X 4. Or Vila Mimosa. Not sure why.

[QUOTE=NorthernDancer;2557651]God I miss this place. It was my first boate experience and still my favourite. There were always a selection of stunning women and they always (IMHO) had an enthusiasm for their work that seemed to be unrivalled in other establishments. Having said that, even though I have been coming to Rio since 2006 I have never been to 4 X 4. Or Vila Mimosa. Not sure why.[/QUOTE]I miss it too. Although not my absolute favorite (that would be 4 x4), it was one of my favorites. And it was my Sunday go to in Rio. Had some of my best sessions ever there! And I can honestly say that it was while I was at L'uomo, sitting there between sessions pondering the meaning of life and why men do what they do, that I decided to take a step closer towards freedom and devote my life to mongering. Yes, a session with "Arianne" at L'uomo in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil did that for me.

Friday I:

Fucked a girl at TDM33 for 80 for a half hour.

Got 3 numbers at 4 x 4 for the 50 cover and a 20 tip / "caixinha". Quality new talent.

Good to meet Anaggie, but needless to say, not my match in terms of budgeting.

I did link up with 2 brothers who I had dinner with at Leme. Highlight was the trout with safron rice at Boteca Belmonte.

Weather was bad, and that cast a pall over everything.

Locals are desperate and getting more so for cash.

Highlight of the week was rolling with Mr. E for a day and a half at Transamerica and centro termas and VM.

Like watching a master at work.

I will say this about 4 x 4.

The best bang of my life -- good sex as Saint Bubba of Copacabana would put it -- was Ingra / Alexia Belucci of 4 x4. But it was in an apartment, pernoite, 14 hours of 1-2 hours of fucking / 69 ing, etc, and 1-2 hours of sleeping. For 300. But it was when she was a freelancer. The locals go into 4 x 4 to party, to meet and greet their peers, generally to grab asses and to get numbers to meet outside. Like if a girls says she is from Campo Grande, you say, let's go to Motel Salou. It's psychology. It's playing a full court press and taking the game to their side of the court -- IE zona norte. Maybe even take the supervia from Central. The fuck will be be better in the hotel in their home turf, and the respect even if all the other fucks are in your barra apartment will be better. Can you do it if you are the monger who skys in for 5 days to two megacities stays in the Marriott and has been here for 20 years? Sports fans, I am here to say yes, you can. Work the long term contacts, and when a Ingra / Alexia Belucci, who was remembered by the staff at 4 x4 front desk, be the dick that the woman who might need a change jumps on.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2557646]The start to my "rock out with your cock out" summer started extremely well and I doubt I will be able to top last night. Would I want to? Not for a while. Will it happen again? Definitely!!

After a long and tiring Wednesday of not getting test results back in time and changing flights to accommodate the results, I finally hopped on a plane to Rio on Thursday. Flying from El Paso to Dallas to Miami and then into Rio. I was tired and had to head straight into the mountains to visit the tannery near Itaipava. Work is finished and I head back to the JW in Copa. Get dressed and showered and leave with my agent to 4 x4 and we arrive between before 6 pm. Yes. That is early and I needed that time to scope out my choices and start getting myself ready for the night ahead. Like I said earlier in the thread. I was going to try to get one of each.

There were a few girls when we walked in. I just put a robe over my clothes and and got a table. Ordered a beer and watched the talent go by. There was some good talent. My agent started talking to a negra and she would be one of the four that I sessioned with by the end of the night. I was talking to a fair skinned 18 ye old and told them about my plans. The girls got excited and helped me find the other. A loira and another mixed tall girl with green eyes and curly dirty brown hair. She was the hottest of the four.

Went with the loira first and had a feeling she wouldn't be that great but I need to shoot my first load and move forward so the stress would be relieved. Got the cheapest room and booked 1 hour. We were done in less than 30 since she was all professional and I just didn't feel the connection.

Sat out with the other two girls and we ended up throwing a bunch drinks down and finally I was ready to go for the second round after the viagra kicked in. Took the negra and curly haired girl to a bigger room and paid a much higher price since I ended up with two girls. But it was definitely worth it. Both agreed to BBFS after I showed them my tests and I was able to interchange. Had a girl sitting on my face, one sucking my dick, and switch. Then one would ride my face while another would ride my dick. SWITCH!! This went on 1. 5 hours and in the end, the girls were pretty strict on time but it was fun.

Went back out to the main room and it got packed. Maybe 50 girls and 20 guys in that small room. I guess I will see if the vaccinations work.

Took the 18 yr old about 1. 5 hrs later after she was a bit tipsy and more open and animated. She also agreed to BBFS and her service was right in the middle. About what you expect from a 18 yr old who is still learning.

Met Vagabundo for a short time since I was both girls at the time and then I took them to a room. Next time, we will meet for a beer outside to chat.

Total damage for the night. Around 3500 reais. Worth it? For me. Yes. I don't have the luxury to spend days in Rio. All my trips to Brazil are for work. So if I get to monger at night. I want to go big and then go home. 🤣.[/QUOTE]Wow, what an epic night! 600 US, you could probably get a mediocre 1 HR MFF 3 some BBFS or 2 hrs BBFS with 2 separate chicks (1 HR each), some can be really hot. But sounds like you got 4 really hot Brazil girls, 3 really not sessions for that price. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for reporting. I'll make sure to visit 4 x4 on my trip to RJ.

When you said "I showed them my tests and I was able to interchange", did you show them your COVID test or STD test? What do you mean by "I was able to interchange"?

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2557679]Wow, what an epic night! 600 US, you could probably get a mediocre 1 HR MFF 3 some BBFS or 2 hrs BBFS with 2 separate chicks (1 HR each)...[/QUOTE]
Or he could have banged 25 privé girls or 70 cheap casa-girls. Not complaining about the price, just making a note.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2557679]When you said "I showed them my tests and I was able to interchange", did you show them your COVID test or STD test?[/QUOTE]
Of course a covid test... if you are covid negative you can bareback... :D

[QUOTE=Sperto;2557690]Or he could have banged 25 priv girls or 70 cheap casa-girls. Not complaining about the price, just making a note.

Of course a covid test... if you are covid negative you can bareback... :D[/QUOTE]I can definitely relate to being in a foreign country for a really short time and wanting the best experience it has to offer without having the luxury of time to research or do trial / errors. I'll try to check out the prives and casas, but will definitely check out 4 x4 at least once.

And I might be dull, but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic about the covid test and BBFS. 😀.

Hello Gentlemen,

I'll be down in a couple weeks, starting to sharpen up my Portuguese words relevant to the hobby. Any quick phrases that would be useful during the negotiation come to mind beyond this basic list? Not sure how much admin censors things that get too saucy.

Kisses on the mouth Beijos na bocas.

Body cumshot Ejaculacao corpo.

Girlfriend Experience Namoradinha.

Oral until the end Oral ate o final.

Oral without condom Oral sem camisinha.

Anal sex Sexo anal.

Golden shower Chuva dourada.

Deep throat Garganta profunda.

Sado Sado.

In your mouth na sua boca.

In your pussy na sua buceta.

On your face Na tua cara.

Overnight Pernoite.

Extra money Dinheiro extra.

I pay more Eu pago mais.

Zebrastripes.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2557679]Wow, what an epic night! 600 US, you could probably get a mediocre 1 HR MFF 3 some BBFS or 2 hrs BBFS with 2 separate chicks (1 HR each), some can be really hot. But sounds like you got 4 really hot Brazil girls, 3 really not sessions for that price. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for reporting. I'll make sure to visit 4 x4 on my trip to RJ.

When you said "I showed them my tests and I was able to interchange", did you show them your COVID test or STD test? What do you mean by "I was able to interchange"?[/QUOTE]Showed them STD tests. Able to interchange is be able to fuck one and then switch to another one. Most girls will only let you fuck one at a time or switch condoms when you switch girls. Also, got my COVID antigen test done in São Paulo today and it came back negative 🤣.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2557775]Showed them STD tests. Able to interchange is be able to fuck one and then switch to another one. Most girls will only let you fuck one at a time or switch condoms when you switch girls. Also, got my COVID antigen test done in So Paulo today and it came back negative.[/QUOTE]You should message the girls on WhatsApp.

Sure they will be delighted to know that they have nothing to worry about.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2557739]Hello Gentlemen,

I'll be down in a couple weeks, starting to sharpen up my Portuguese words relevant to the hobby. Any quick phrases that would be useful during the negotiation come to mind beyond this basic list? Not sure how much admin censors things that get too saucy.
Zebrastripes.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be great if the forum had a thread titled:

Portuguese Words and Phrases?

She changed my life that fateful day at L'uomo. Yes sir she did. I wonder who she's loving now?

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2557696]I can definitely relate to being in a foreign country for a really short time and wanting the best experience it has to offer without having the luxury of time to research or do trial / errors. I'll try to check out the prives and casas, but will definitely check out 4 x4 at least once.[/QUOTE]As you should. 4 x 4 is the cheapest major terma with the talent totally comparable to Solarium or Monte Carlo. Termas are all about taking your sweet time.

The single best anal session I ever had in my life was with Natasha. At, you guessed it, L'uomo! Yes, I miss it too!

She gave up that branca butt hole so good that I had to have it again!

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2557794]Wouldn't it be great if the forum had a thread titled:

Portuguese Words and Phrases?[/QUOTE]Ha! I see it now. Looks like some valuable info along with a great many other subjects / topics I didn't know existed including "Bubba Boy's Rio Guide" whoever that is and reports going back to 2003.

Thanks for your patience, as I mentioned before I'm usually mongering in SEA which is so easy as to not necessitate any ISG recon, but with the world-wide illness I've got to learn some new tricks and it's a new interface. Do the veterans here notice an uptick in erstwhile hobbyists from lockdown countries?

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2557793]You should message the girls on WhatsApp.

Sure they will be delighted to know that they have nothing to worry about.[/QUOTE]Jealous much 🤣129315;?

I've already contacted and sessioned with one of the girls from 4 x 4 Friday, a 21 yo in Campo grande who met me at motel salou. 250 r for 3 hours.

The negra who was in the boate is the same negra that Mandingoblack wrote about in December or January who he took upstairs only to find a see section scar which caused him not to even have sex.

That's the same negra who was written up as part of the dupla Friday.

My point is that the best method at termas is get numbers and meet outside.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2558125]I've already contacted and sessioned with one of the girls from 4 x 4 Friday, a 21 yo in Campo grande who met me at motel salou. 250 r for 3 hours.

The negra who was in the boate is the same negra that Mandingoblack wrote about in December or January who he took upstairs only to find a see section scar which caused him not to even have sex.

That's the same negra who was written up as part of the dupla Friday.

My point is that the best method at termas is get numbers and meet outside.[/QUOTE]I didn't notice a see section scar but I also wasn't paying that much attention. I was really into the other girl who was more my type.

Depends on the persons availability can one get a girl from a terma to meet outside. Some people have the luxury of time and not of money. Some people have the luxury of money and not of time. To each his own.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2558125]My point is that the best method at termas is get numbers and meet outside.[/QUOTE]Only if you are willing to substitute part of the payment with time I. E. With delayed gratification. The girls all intuitively know this. They understand that their vaginas are a waning asset just like an empty hotel room or airplane seat before takeoff in that every night the value of their only asset goes to zero at the end of the night so naturally, they are willing to lower their price the closer it gets to the zero hour or in their off hours if they like you.

I prefer immediate gratification. I see a girl in a bar, a brothel, massage parlor and if I decide I want her, I want her now not 4 or 5 hours later after closing time or the next afternoon or a few days later on her day off; Now! And I am willing to pay prime time prices in hard currency for my time preference.

I am not criticizing your preference. There was a time in my life when I did exactly as you suggest. I was young (under 30), fit, in good shape, reasonably good looking, and I had plenty of time on my hands, but I was short on cash.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWRmsoBXAUw&t=22s[/URL]

So, I used to arrange to meet the girls after their bars closed and they did me for free back in the day. But fortunately for me, I do not have to do it that way now. At this point in my life, time and immediate gratification is more valuable to me and in shorter supply than money. Ha!

Just pointing out that there is more than one way to shag a working girl and the reasons for the nightly price fluctuations. No one way is right for everybody. What is best for me or what is best for you may not be what is best for the next guy and the hundreds of guys after him.

Paying for it is actually cheaper than dating or being in a relationship. For most of the time that you talk about, at less than the age of 30, and even now, I had and have non pro real girlfriends. And I have plenty of money and time. It's just that the sex is better if you're the bat, not the ball.

But grossly overpaying for it makes the monger look bad -- and anyone who appears to be his friend -- among the locals. That's why you go over to a prive or a casa and blow a load for $70 before you go to a tier 1 terma to get numbers. It's not just me, that's what Johnny Walker was doing, that's what Players 2 and 3 from a few weeks ago were doing.

Paying the girl -- just the girl --250 which is less than $50 dollars is a win for her, and it's better sex in a better environment. Look around. That's what 85% of the locals in 4 x 4 are actually doing. If you want to pay 50% to the old as fuck staff chicks and all the other overhead, well knock yourself out, but that's not my scene, and I'm not interested in socializing with those mongers.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2558241]Only if you are willing to substitute part of the payment with time I. E. With delayed gratification. The girls all intuitively know this. They understand that their vaginas are a waning asset just like an empty hotel room or airplane seat before takeoff in that every night the value of their only asset goes to zero at the end of the night so naturally, they are willing to lower their price the closer it gets to the zero hour or in their off hours if they like you.

I prefer immediate gratification. I see a girl in a bar, a brothel, massage parlor and if I decide I want her, I want her now not 4 or 5 hours later after closing time or the next afternoon or a few days later on her day off; Now! And I am willing to pay prime time prices in hard currency for my time preference.

I am not criticizing your preference. There was a time in my life when I did exactly as you suggest. I was young (under 30), fit, in good shape, reasonably good looking, and I had plenty of time on my hands, but I was short on cash..[/QUOTE]

Buzios with 4 x 4 girl / BarraVipsRio.

The girls who are at 4 x 4 or on BarraVipsRio will go to your room for 150 or 100, if you chat them up at the pool at Transamerica.

They will go to buzios for 400 at the most.

A few years ago I wrote about surfgirl, who I met at 4 x 4. I got her number just like I got the 21 year old's number Friday. We went to Motel Shalimar the first night, it was good. Then she'd come over to my apartment and I put her in the rotation of 4-6 top prive / terma girls who would come over for a few hours, or overnight, and party.

Now, I understand that many ISG members are coming from pandemic lockdowns and are eager to get it on, and have money to burn. I've got plenty of money too. But what happens when you roll in and flash a lot of money by buying bottles for every girl in Paris Cafe, and your driver, or paying the absurd 1000 r cover to take a girl out of a terma on the same night, or 3500 for 4 girls is you make your wingmen if they are with you look like they too support that pricing.

So, fly solo.

Look around. Even if you're in town for just one night. Do you see any local Brazilian dudes doing that?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2558241]Only if you are willing to substitute part of the payment with time I. E. With delayed gratification. The girls all intuitively know this. They understand that their vaginas are a waning asset just like an empty hotel room or airplane seat before takeoff in that every night the value of their only asset goes to zero at the end of the night so naturally, they are willing to lower their price the closer it gets to the zero hour or in their off hours if they like you.

I prefer immediate gratification. I see a girl in a bar, a brothel, massage parlor and if I decide I want her, I want her now not 4 or 5 hours later after closing time or the next afternoon or a few days later on her day off; Now! And I am willing to pay prime time prices in hard currency for my time preference.

I am not criticizing your preference. There was a time in my life when I did exactly as you suggest. I was young (under 30), fit, in good shape, reasonably good looking, and I had plenty of time on my hands, but I was short on cash.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWRmsoBXAUw&t=22s[/URL]

So, I used to arrange to meet the girls after their bars closed and they did me for free back in the day. But fortunately for me, I do not have to do it that way now. At this point in my life, time and immediate gratification is more valuable to me and in shorter supply than money. Ha!

Just pointing out that there is more than one way to shag a working girl and the reasons for the nightly price fluctuations. No one way is right for everybody. What is best for me or what is best for you may not be what is best for the next guy and the hundreds of guys after him.[/QUOTE]Sometimes immediate gratification is important. But what if you see one you got to have but are out of leche? That happens frequently in Termas and the obvious solution (unless you're 20 years old) is to get her number and arrange something for later.

[QUOTE=Combo;2558297]Sometimes immediate gratification is important. But what if you see one you got to have but are out of leche? That happens frequently in Termas and the obvious solution (unless you're 20 years old) is to get her number and arrange something for later.[/QUOTE]Sure, there are always situations like the one you mention when I arrange to get together with a girl later. Sometimes telling a girl you will call her later and then actually doing it convinces her you are a man of your word and as a result she thinks more highly of you. That's psychology.

And there are also times when I am out and about late, late at night just seeing what is going on and I run into a bar girl or Go Go girl (especially in Thailand) after her shift is over. I am not about to pay her 9 pm Go Go fee at 3 am. I love those 2 fer BKK nights.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2558264]Paying for it is actually cheaper than dating or being in a relationship. For most of the time that you talk about, at less than the age of 30, and even now, I had and have non pro real girlfriends. And I have plenty of money and time. It's just that the sex is better if you're the bat, not the ball.

But grossly overpaying for it makes the monger look bad -- and anyone who appears to be his friend -- among the locals. That's why you go over to a prive or a casa and blow a load for $70 before you go to a tier 1 terma to get numbers. It's not just me, that's what Johnny Walker was doing, that's what Players 2 and 3 from a few weeks ago were doing.

Paying the girl -- just the girl --250 which is less than $50 dollars is a win for her, and it's better sex in a better environment. Look around. That's what 85% of the locals in 4 x 4 are actually doing. If you want to pay 50% to the old as fuck staff chicks and all the other overhead, well knock yourself out, but that's not my scene, and I'm not interested in socializing with those mongers.[/QUOTE]Why does it matter to you what another person does or doesn't do? It all depends on the person or time. You get to decide whether to join them or not.

On my way to 4 x4, I asked my agent about VM and he started laughing. I asked him why he was laughing. He said that place is utter trash. Now this is coming from a guy younger than me, a local and doesn't have the income I do. If he says that he would never go to that place. Well I will follow his advice.

You monger on in your way. Other will do what suits best for them. Trust me. The girls will keep coming and going and the prices will fluctuate and so will the guys. It is a never ending cycle. There will be some who are willing to pay 12000 reais for 24 hours (one of the girls told me a European paid her that), there are middle of the road guys like me and there will always be guys who try to average the best price for their fucking and are willing to fuck anything as long as it is cheap enough.

Peace!!

Bubba Boy on why go to tier 2 termas.

This is straight from the Bubba Boy Guide:

"The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places. The only downside is that the cheaper places tend to have less of a choice, this can be overcome by going to 2 or 3 on the same night. Entrance is generally are $ 10 to are $ 20 and the girl maybe are $ 100, hence with a bit of work you can bang some one as hot or even hotter than at the expensive places for just are $ 150, half the price and twice the fun!

As I said, it matters to me only if a ISG member reaches out to me and asks me to meet him at the terma while he is doing the behavior which transfers by reputation to me, which I want no part of.

At one point the staff lady aat 4 x 4 comes up to me on Friday, and is like, "why are you going? Your friend is paying $1000 reais to take a girl out. "

I'm like yeah, no, that's not for me, and it never will be, just like Bubba Boy, who this board would have to agree is a pretty well respected source.

Or you can take it from Mr. E, who is at like 11,500 posts. I had a great time with him at the prives and at VM. He probably has more cred than your agent.

Look, you seem like a very nice guy. You had a long night in Rio after a long year of this pandemic. Congratulations. You can head back to El Paso a happy and satisfied man, I suppose. But I would prefer to just have a meal or beer outside of a venue if we ever meet again. You've got 69 very well written posts that show how committed you are to your own plan. BTW, the food in Rio is not only as good as SP, it is by the beach. I would suggest Na Brasa Colombia or Boteca Belmonte. A view of the Atlantic makes it all taste better. Have a nice flight.

All that said, with a little prior planning, you could have had a girl with you on your trip up to Petropolis. If you've been here 20 years, you must have some contacts?

Given the same amount of time, had I to do that night over, I would have gone to 4 x4, but I would also have gone to 502, t31, and Club 116.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2558368]Why does it matter to you what another person does or doesn't do? It all depends on the person or time. You get to decide whether to join them or not.

On my way to 4 x4, I asked my agent about VM and he started laughing. I asked him why he was laughing. He said that place is utter trash. Now this is coming from a guy younger than me, a local and doesn't have the income I do. If he says that he would never go to that place. Well I will follow his advice.

You monger on in your way. Other will do what suits best for them. Trust me. The girls will keep coming and going and the prices will fluctuate and so will the guys. It is a never ending cycle. There will be some who are willing to pay 12000 reais for 24 hours (one of the girls told me a European paid her that), there are middle of the road guys like me and there will always be guys who try to average the best price for their fucking and are willing to fuck anything as long as it is cheap enough.

Peace!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2558368]Why does it matter to you what another person does or doesn't do? It all depends on the person or time. You get to decide whether to join them or not.

On my way to 4 x4, I asked my agent about VM and he started laughing. I asked him why he was laughing. He said that place is utter trash. Now this is coming from a guy younger than me, a local and doesn't have the income I do. If he says that he would never go to that place. Well I will follow his advice.

You monger on in your way. Other will do what suits best for them. Trust me. The girls will keep coming and going and the prices will fluctuate and so will the guys. It is a never ending cycle. There will be some who are willing to pay 12000 reais for 24 hours (one of the girls told me a European paid her that), there are middle of the road guys like me and there will always be guys who try to average the best price for their fucking and are willing to fuck anything as long as it is cheap enough.

Peace!![/QUOTE]Never been and have no intentions of going. Besides, I like brancas, and that's not a good place to find them. Besides being filthy!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2557671]I miss it too. Although not my absolute favorite (that would be 4 x4), it was one of my favorites. And it was my Sunday go to in Rio. Had some of my best sessions ever there! And I can honestly say that it was while I was at L'uomo, sitting there between sessions pondering the meaning of life and why men do what they do, that I decided to take a step closer towards freedom and devote my life to mongering. Yes, a session with "Arianne" at L'uomo in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil did that for me.[/QUOTE]The white wrap around seats in front of the mirrors, strip pole near entrance, and bar to your left as you walked in, always a good selection, and yes, a great to go place for Sunday fun, buffet in area next door, and of course, the best shower water pressure of all Termas in Rio de Janeiro :-)

Can anyone go over the process for entering and exiting Brazil from the US?

This is what I have so far.

(1) Going to Brazil.

*Need to take COVID-19 test beforehand (Walgreens offers a free 24 HR one, the Rapid test).

*Fill out info sheet from Brazil travel authority.

(2) Leaving Brazil to the US -.

*Take COVID-19 test 3 days before flight.

So my biggest question is. How / where do I schedule a COVID-19 test in Rio? I have no idea as to how that works and have very limited Portuguese skills.

I will be arriving in Rio this Friday.

Reading about these guys who are proud of overpaying the girls. Will the girls admire you and think you are high-rollers? Nope, they will just laugh at you behind your back and have no respect for you.
I think most Rio-mongers can afford to overpay the girls, but there is no reason to do so. As Vagabundo writes, look at how the locals do. Personally I would feel really stupid if I overpayed, it doesn't matter if I buy a coconut or a girl.

Just wondered how things are looking pandemic wise in Rio now? Desperate to break out of UK lockdown but we are only allowed to visit 12 extremely safe countries until next month at least. Have my passport ready as soon as things open up. Brazil as a whole is looking bad regarding COVID in our media but hopefully vaccinations will start kicking in soon.

Before I do eventually arrive I am hoping to reach out to the guys on the ground and enjoy a meal or two and a few beers. I will only be there for 5-6 days and want to experience as much as possible, from VM to up market termas and boates, even if I don't session there. The posts on here reflect the generous nature of the members and I already feel like I know my way around the city. The way things are going at present though, it could be 2022 before Brazil makes it onto the UK's green list of safe destinations. I can't wait!

Hi guys,

Where can I consistently find dirty anal girls for shitty asses?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2558443]Reading about these guys who are proud of overpaying the girls. Will the girls admire you and think you are high-rollers? Nope, they will just laugh at you behind your back and have no respect for you.
I think most Rio-mongers can afford to overpay the girls, but there is no reason to do so. As Vagabundo writes, look at how the locals do. Personally I would feel really stupid if I overpayed, it doesn't matter if I buy a coconut or a girl.[/QUOTE]Are you saying Anaggie is one of those guys?

I am just wondering why do you think he is proud of it? The way I read it, he is just satisfied. Can you point out where he is overpaying? Maybe I miss something. I read that he is just paying the list price which everyone will pay to session at 4 x4. Maybe he overspent, but I don't understand why that is overpaying.

The way I look at it is this, without people who session in termas, there won't be a 4 x4 for me to go get numbers from.

It looks to me that (including me) people overlooked the demise of the reais. It lost a third of it's value versus the Euro alone in the last year or so. For me a game changer. I wanted to do Brasil for a long time. And now with the exchange rates there where I want them to be, my planning is going into overdrive. Time to do Rio. Kenya Uganda still curfew. Not enjoyable. Madagascar still closed. Tansania ok but overall boring. Definitely ok to hole up during the pandemic. But. Shite food. Chicas on the whole no comparison to kenyan fuck machines.

Alas Brazil it is. Flights with TAP from my European home country available from 462 Euros if you're content with hand luggage. Return that is. Hell cheaper than Africa. Hotels at ridiculous prices like 13 euros a day. Hostel in Vidigal for 8 euros. WTF. 50 to 150 reais for linda bunda negra. And ZERO overpaying tourists on the ground. What more can you ask for?? Obrigado Covid-19. And all open for business now.

Neddy.

Who's improving on portugues. Memrise comes highly recommended.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2558505]Are you saying Anaggie is one of those guys?

I am just wondering why do you think he is proud of it? The way I read it, he is just satisfied. Can you point out where he is overpaying? Maybe I miss something. I read that he is just paying the list price which everyone will pay to session at 4 x4. Maybe he overspent, but I don't understand why that is overpaying.

The way I look at it is this, without people who session in termas, there won't be a 4 x4 for me to go get numbers from.[/QUOTE]I paid the price that was listed at 4 x4 and of course the total also included drinks and some snacks for approx 8 hrs spent inside. Could I have done it cheaper? Sure. But then I would be running from place to place trying to find something I want. I had 24 hrs in the city which includes work and some sleep. I don't live there nor do I want to. Places like 4 x4 exist for people like me. Certain cheap fuckers on this site should be happy that people like me keep 4 x4 open so they can do their business the way they want. Similar to people who take their own snacks into a movie theatre. Everyone knows that movie theaters don't make money on the movie tickets but on the overpriced snacks. People still buy the snacks. Does that mean they are stupid? Or ignorant? Or are they paying for the convenience of having a choice of snacks on hand to satisfy their craving?

My agent, a local, also sessions inside 4x4. Why does he do that? Maybe he doesn’t want to risk being seen getting a hotel room by someone who knows his wife. He definitely can’t take the girl to his house so I am sure there are plenty of locals who do this. People in this forum need to understand that there is a market for everything and one persons advice is good for some and won’t work for others. I found about photo accompanates and Scandello after reading the forum. I then went and tried out both to see what I would like and wouldn’t like.

We need to write our reports and let others decide what is best. Look at all sides of the game and decide what you prefer.

Here's another L'uomo girl. I remember that she shoved an unwelcome finger up my ass! Had to give her an extra hard fuck for that transgression LOL!

And here is Donna. I remember that she had a tattoo of a dolphin on her butt. I have a picture of that somewhere. She said that I would know when she was ready to cum because she would go:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGSTRJmN2VQ[/URL]

LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2558443]Reading about these guys who are proud of overpaying the girls. Will the girls admire you and think you are high-rollers? Nope, they will just laugh at you behind your back and have no respect for you.
I think most Rio-mongers can afford to overpay the girls, but there is no reason to do so. As Vagabundo writes, look at how the locals do. Personally I would feel really stupid if I overpayed, it doesn't matter if I buy a coconut or a girl.[/QUOTE]As far as the locals are concerned: locals were the only customers in the Termas when I was visiting. I was the only gringo. It looked to me like they were real relaxed, very familiar with the surroundings, and having a good time and they were definitely doing the girls in-house. If no one were doing the girls in-house, the Termas would not make any money and would all be forced to close down.

So, let us all be crystal clear about this: is it your contention that anyone who goes to a RJ Terma and does a girl or girls in-house is overpaying?

Look, if you are paying a girl for sex then you are a customer and she is a hooker and that is all there is to it. There is no cause for snobbery or reverse snobbery on this issue. You do it your way and I will do it my way. We are all maximizing our pleasures (utility) given our individual preferences and constraints.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2558523]If no one were doing the girls in-house, the Termas would not make any money and would all be forced to close down.[/QUOTE]Did I ever write that anyone shouldn't do the girls in-house? Nope.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2558523]As far as the locals are concerned: locals were the only customers in the Termas when I was visiting. I was the only gringo. It looked to me like they were real relaxed, very familiar with the surroundings, and having a good time and they were definitely doing the girls in-house. If no one were doing the girls in-house, the Termas would not make any money and would all be forced to close down.

So, let us all be crystal clear about this: is it your contention that anyone who goes to a RJ Terma and does a girl or girls in-house is overpaying?

Look, if you are paying a girl for sex then you are a customer and she is a hooker and that is all there is to it. There is no cause for snobbery or reverse snobbery on this issue. You do it your way and I will do it my way. We are all maximizing our pleasures (utility) given our individual preferences and constraints.[/QUOTE]He's the "esperto" (means "expert" in Italian) on all things Brazil. I think that says it all LOL!

[QUOTE=The Cane;2558512]I remember that she shoved an welcome finger up my ass![/QUOTE]
As a anal connoisseur I'm sure you did a thumbs up.
"LOLOLOL!"

[QUOTE=Sperto;2558571]As a anal connoisseur I'm sure you did a thumbs up.
"LOLOLOL!"[/QUOTE]Knew you wouldn't be able to help yourself "esperto".

Now, this L'uomo treat I had to break off relations with. You see, we were getting just too close to going bareback with me cumming inside. No can do! Were supposed to meet up at my hotel where I was sure it was finally going to happen, so blew her off. Being the "anal connoisseur" that I am, I did enjoy her anus over a couple of sessions at the club though (as with Natasha and Arianne).

[QUOTE=Sperto;2558552]Did I ever write that anyone shouldn't do the girls in-house? Nope.[/QUOTE]In the context of the discussion's evolution, one could easily surmise that was your point.

Your comment aside, I think members can make their point about less expensive options and then move on. It's kind of like the periodic Sao Paulo board ritual of dropping a proverbial match into gasoline with the Scandallo / SP boates versus the Sao Paulo clinicas debate. It can be and will be debated endlessly.

I've been very persistent here in advocating getting numbers wherever and whenever. If a girl declines, then that's it. You have your answer. If she gives you her number and responds to your initial phone contact, you are halfway there.

Having said that, strike while the iron is hot certainly applies in a termas. Especially, if you are on a short trip. I think many of us also know the girls we contact aren't always available when we want them. Some of them will flake. Some of the girls are introverted and generally feel more comfortable in the safety of the termas.

In fact, that is your job. Don't be a jerk. Don't be awkward. Make the girls feel comfortable meeting you on the outside. Vagabundo's long term strategy of meeting them close to their home for the first time is brilliant. But then again, it's long-term strategy.

From reading a bunch of posts, it seems that Brazil for the most part is full of pros. I guess a big reason for this is that most don't speak English in the country and the language barrier, so you can't meet non-pros easily.

If I go to Brazil am I going to be basically fucking girls who are pros and who are fucking multiple guys a day for money? Probably who have been with hundreds of guys this year alone?

Is this a concern for any of you or do you guys not really care?

[QUOTE=Pooloo3232;2558417]Can anyone go over the process for entering and exiting Brazil from the US?

This is what I have so far.

(1) Going to Brazil.

*Need to take COVID-19 test beforehand (Walgreens offers a free 24 HR one, the Rapid test).

*Fill out info sheet from Brazil travel authority.

(2) Leaving Brazil to the US -.

*Take COVID-19 test 3 days before flight.

So my biggest question is. How / where do I schedule a COVID-19 test in Rio? I have no idea as to how that works and have very limited Portuguese skills.

I will be arriving in Rio this Friday.[/QUOTE]I made a post specifically about this maybe 3 weeks ago. You can probably search my name or just go back down the timeline. Make sure your COVID test is a PCR test for entry into Brasil, not an antigen test. An antigen test is only okay for USA Entry. Download the VeriFly app, it streamlines everything for you. The app has added new features recently, I'd appreciate a review if you end up using it.

[QUOTE=Edward5;2558650]From reading a bunch of posts, it seems that Brazil for the most part is full of pros. I guess a big reason for this is that most don't speak English in the country and the language barrier, so you can't meet non-pros easily.

If I go to Brazil am I going to be basically fucking girls who are pros and who are fucking multiple guys a day for money? Probably who have been with hundreds of guys this year alone?

Is this a concern for any of you or do you guys not really care?[/QUOTE]If you're there for a short visit and you don't speak Portugués, it's pretty difficult to get it on with a non-pro. If would help immensely if you were in town for say a month or more. And if you're young and very handsome too.

[QUOTE=Edward5;2558650]From reading a bunch of posts, it seems that Brazil for the most part is full of pros.[/QUOTE]This is a board about fucking chicks. The majority of the chicks guys travel around fucking are hookers. If you went on a website about steak, you would not say you guess restaurants don't serve fried chicken. That being said, there are plenty of hookers in almost every country if you know where to look. My first time in Brazil I was married and with my wife and did not need to know where to look, so I never saw them.

[QUOTE=Edward5;2558650]I guess a big reason for this is that most don't speak English in the country and the language barrier, so you can't meet non-pros easily.[/QUOTE]You lie in the bed that you make. If you already have the ability to fuck chicks that are not hookers, then your task is easy. You only have left to learn the language and do what comes naturally. If you have not been one to get regular chicks easily, then you are going to need another lifetime to make a new bed.

[QUOTE=Edward5;2558650]If I go to Brazil am I going to be basically fucking girls who are pros and who are fucking multiple guys a day for money? Probably who have been with hundreds of guys this year alone?[/QUOTE]That tends to be the easy and cheaper way out. If you go to a restaurant to have a meal, then you are going to eat off plates, and use silverware and glasses that hundreds of people this year alone have already used. So what is your point?

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2558666]I made a post specifically about this maybe 3 weeks ago.[/QUOTE]Last week my girlfriend had some nuts at her house besides mine. I told her that in the States we call these Brazil nuts. What are they called here (since the box only said Castanha)? She said they are called Para nuts, being they are from the area around the state of Para. I forgot to take them with me, but ended up seeing a guy on the street in Rio selling them 3 cup scoops for 10 reais.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2558685]If you go to a restaurant to have a meal, then you are going to eat off plates, and use silverware and glasses that hundreds of people this year alone have already used. So what is your point?[/QUOTE]Now isn't that the truth? Seems to me that the more appropriate inquiry would be how well do them tutes "wash their dishes". LOLOLOL!

Class, let's step back and view this as a business school case study.

As the professors write, without assigning blame let us write the case study, the after action review.

No one is to blame here, but I am saying that a monger who pays $3500 reais to fuck 4 Rio hookers in 8 hours in a tier 1 terma should be discussed.

Now, let me draw two analogies, one to derivatives, the other to infantry automatic rifles, two subjects of which I am familiar.

Now, 4 x4 terma is if nothing else an options market. Not unlike the bolsa valores which is 150 meters away towards praca xv (which has excellent food).

When a trader goes into a market, he can place two kinds of orders, a limit order, or a market order.

Now, in the Rio hooker market, the bid ask spread is wide, like 80 reais for a half hour bid at Club 116, to 850 reais for an hour ask at 4 x 4.

Now a market maker -- which is what the ribeiros who own 4 x4 are -- will look at a order that comes in that is a 'market' as red meat, dumb money, a victim.

That's what a monger who just buys the ask price is. This is what Bubba Boy was saying in his quote.

You want to be the trader who always, always, always places a limit order, and places it near the bid price, the lower price, among several securities you want, and have the time to wait. My advice is the minimum trip to rio is a week, otherwise it's a waste.

OK, now on to the infantry automatic rifle. I write as the 4 x 4 21 year old branca from campo grande sits beside me after fucking, which we will do all night, for 250 reais pernoite, plus uber from campo grande.

OK, men, now the military has found that in order to clear a trench, a man can carry either a 20 pound squad automatic weapon with a 200 round linked 5. 56 mm drum, or a 9 pound infantry automatic rifle with a optic and a 30 round magazine.

The scoped rifle will actually hit the actual target more often, and thus is being adopted, with the heavier gun being put in the armory.

When you come into Rio, you want to be accomplishing the mission with the scoped infantry automatic rifle, taking aimed shots, not shooting all your ammo on full auto. Yeah, 600 USD is nothing, we can all afford it -- but what is 600 USD a day for 30 days, or 365 days? And even if 250 grand is nothing, the point is what is the impact on your target? Go out to Campo Grande and see what 250 reais is. Don't be the "ugly american".

Be the BOPE or CORE commando with a suppressed, scoped infantry automatic rifle who takes well aimed shots with Night Vision Gear.

All of which is to say:

Whenever you go to 4 x4, also.

Go to Terma 31 and Club 116.

Monger on you killers!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2558505]Are you saying Anaggie is one of those guys?

I am just wondering why do you think he is proud of it? The way I read it, he is just satisfied. Can you point out where he is overpaying? Maybe I miss something. I read that he is just paying the list price which everyone will pay to session at 4 x4. Maybe he overspent, but I don't understand why that is overpaying.

The way I look at it is this, without people who session in termas, there won't be a 4 x4 for me to go get numbers from.[/QUOTE]

Most termas guests who are locals don't session. They are ass grabbers and get numbers. See the Bubba Boy guide.

I would say the majority of foreign guests do session. That means that the foreigners are subsidizing the locals getting numbers which should tell you something.

When in Rome, do as the romans do.

[QUOTE=Edward5;2558650]From reading a bunch of posts, it seems that Brazil for the most part is full of pros. I guess a big reason for this is that most don't speak English in the country and the language barrier, so you can't meet non-pros easily.

If I go to Brazil am I going to be basically fucking girls who are pros and who are fucking multiple guys a day for money? Probably who have been with hundreds of guys this year alone?

Is this a concern for any of you or do you guys not really care?[/QUOTE]If the name of this website doesn't necessarily imply that it's a mongering board, the line about money being an aphrodisiac surely must, no?

"So, is Brazil full of pros?

No. It's a big folder full of all kinds of women.

"If I go to Brazil am I going to be basically fucking girls who are pros?

I don't know. Are you?

"Who are fucking multiple guys a day for money? Probably who have been with hundreds of guys this year alone?

Yep.

"Do we pay hookers because we don't speak the language?

No, "we" don't pay them for that reason alone. Do you?

Look, this is not a pick up artistry forum.

Even though there are enough guys here who like to delude themselves into believing that they're getting laid for their boyish looks and stallion dicks.

To each their own. I personally don't have a budget for GFE kkkk.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2558710]My advice is the minimum trip to rio is a week, otherwise it's a waste.

Whenever you go to 4 x4, also.

Go to Terma 31 and Club 116.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Vagabundo. While I respect Natty and Anaggie for their recent trips and reports, I also respect your demeanor in these conversations. They're not argumentative. But sound like sound advice for those with the luxury of time. It's easy for these conversations to devolve into arguments about local market price, tourists driving prices up, etc.

I'm planning on visiting RJ for a few days after landing in SP. Do you think your strategy still applies? You preface your post with a minimum week long trip to Rio. So if I'm only visiting for 4 days, should I just go to the boates / termas and session there?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2558710]
Whenever you go to 4 x4, also.

Go to Terma 31 and Club 116.[/QUOTE]If I am able to make my trip, I am going to follow your track. But I will stay near Lapa or Centro first, then go check out Transamerica and may move there to be your neighbor after I have enough of Centro. haha

When a girl asks how long you are staying the answer is always a year.

When a girl asks where you are from the answer is always Salvador.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2558791]Thanks, Vagabundo. While I respect Natty and Anaggie for their recent trips and reports, I also respect your demeanor in these conversations. They're not argumentative. But sound like sound advice for those with the luxury of time. It's easy for these conversations to devolve into arguments about local market price, tourists driving prices up, etc.

I'm planning on visiting RJ for a few days after landing in SP. Do you think your strategy still applies? You preface your post with a minimum week long trip to Rio. So if I'm only visiting for 4 days, should I just go to the boates / termas and session there?[/QUOTE]

Generally, Rio de Janeiro is a suruba.

A suruba is a gangbang.

Everyone walks around in robes like The Dude in the Big Lebowski, or John Belushi in Animal House, or Caligula in Caligula.

Everyone is naked under the robe, except for a bottle of lube in the robe's pocket.

Everyone fucks everyone else.

On the beach.

On the subway.

In the office buildings.

In the stores, the restaurants, the parking lots.

There is a low cloud that sits over the city, it is from the smoke from weed.

LSD is pumped into the water, and Jimi Hendrix, who never died, plays free concerts in Barra, where we gather in large fields, to fuck, play soccer, and fight.

No pussies are allowed.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2558714]If the name of this website doesn't necessarily imply that it's a mongering board, the line about money being an aphrodisiac surely must, no?

"So, is Brazil full of pros?

No. It's a big folder full of all kinds of women.

"If I go to Brazil am I going to be basically fucking girls who are pros?

I don't know. Are you?

"Who are fucking multiple guys a day for money? Probably who have been with hundreds of guys this year alone?

Yep..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2558714]Even though there are enough guys here who like to delude themselves into believing that they're getting laid for their boyish looks and stallion dicks.

To each their own.......[/QUOTE]So true. I've meant so many guys here in the States that try to bullshit about the Brazilian girl they picked up. You say you went for a week and just like that you picked up a girl. Good for you. You were monogamous for that week. Great. You didn't pay her any money. Hmm, but you bought her clothes and gifts. Oh, but that was your choice. Okay.

If you travel around the world, you see that economic disparity between men and women is a big driver of sexual relations whether it's completely transparent or not. My experience is that it's hard to hook-up with a middle class Brazilian girl. You likely need introductions. You likely need to be living in Brazil or have a clear reason to return often (business, friends, etc.)

I remember a situation where a friend actually showed me a photo of his Brazilian "nice girl" friend. He was adamant that she wasn't a pro. He met her on the beach. I showed him some photos of her on a predecessor site of ISG. He seemed genuinely pissed at me for contradicting his delusion.

I think another thing that should be mentioned about what you pay is that I never have a real problem with the price people pay assuming they do their research. Ignoring a quick trip that some here have mentioned where there is no real time to gauge the market (go wild if you must, IMO), you should always try exploring the different price points to see what fits best. I find that many guys search for GFE and that is not always a given with a higher price tag, and I think a lot of the veteran members have rightly made that point. But I am also no fan of garbage hunting; I think back on my days in Thailand and the infamous ACE building where many mongers swore by it, but I could never justify how horrible that place made me feel (I went with a friend and I ended up waiting outside). Sometimes you see mongers gleefully posting about getting off for $50 and when you look at the pictures of the creatures they paid, you feel traumatized.

Mongers also often forget how each person is different. I am still young / single and generally in shape so it can lead to a different situation than some of our older veterans here (who have assuredly enjoyed far more experiences than I have). I have never really been impressed with bargain hunting because I have been lucky enough to pull "good" talent just using Tinder / Whatsapp / etc. That has been comparable to low / mid-tier shops. I'm not trying to stroke my own ego, but just being realistic as to how age and social media savvy can give people different advantages and disadvantages. Additionally, a lot of my experiences are based around SE Asia so Brazil may be a totally different experience, which is the exciting part!

Anyway, I'm coming to Rio and SP for a month towards the end of the June and I always make it a point to try out the different options. See how I feel about the quality of girls, what they provide, and the overall atmosphere. My biggest flag is when it looks like the girl is not happy to be there which I'm sure most mongers are also sensitive to. So I appreciate all of the info that various people have posted. The Clinicas to Scandallo in SP, the prives and termas of Rio, and the online escorts, hopefully I can provide some good reports when the time comes.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2558879]I remember a situation where a friend actually showed me a photo of his Brazilian "nice girl" friend. He was adamant that she wasn't a pro. He met her on the beach. I showed him some photos of her on a predecessor site of ISG. He seemed genuinely pissed at me for contradicting his delusion.[/QUOTE]You did his dumb ass a favor! I hope he finally came to your senses and thanked you for it later.

Any sapien can go to Brazil who has a pocket full of Reis and foge to his heart's content, but it takes finesse to be able to chill comfortably with a brasileira not matter what her profession. 6.

[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2558900]I always make it a point to try out the different options.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you already have some mongering experience in RJ and SP. So I'm guessing you've had an account and TheDerilious is a secondary account? Or are you just new to ISG?

Either way, if you have some info for RJ / SP, care to share? I'll be there in early June for a couple weeks.

This is what I've got so far.

SP:
(world traveler's list) [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.564361890150447%2C-46.614193590780076&z=12[/URL].

RJ:
www.gparena.net/tds-areas.php?a=1
(World Traveler's list) www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-22.95713439702401%2C-43.277909419849045&z=13&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH
4 x4.

Terma 31. - lol I don't know if Vagabundo was trolling, but it looks like Terma 31 is a tranny shop? (www.facebook.com/pages/Club-31/154933171803559). Could be wrong as that FB page hasn't been updated in 3 years.

Club 116.

For Terma 31 and Club 116, I have the same expectations as when I go to Chicago and Tropicana in Tijuana. They're pretty close to the main event (Hong Kong). I drop in and look around to see if there's talent. If there is, great. If not, I just head over to 4 x4.

No, T31 is a tier 2 or trash darkside terma but very much hetero. There are girls and the clients are guys. It's written up in Bubba Boy's Guide.

Address off the top of my head is alcatra machado 31, two blocks down the street from hotel Atlántico tower on rua inhuama number 95 if memory serves, on the North or "darkside" of av presidente vargas.

Tijuana is warmed over refried beans mixed with horseshit.

Mexicans are the poor man's Brazilians. And I know Tijuana very well.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2558994]It sounds like you already have some mongering experience in RJ and SP. So I'm guessing you've had an account and TheDerilious is a secondary account? Or are you just new to ISG?

Either way, if you have some info for RJ / SP, care to share? I'll be there in early June for a couple weeks.

This is what I've got so far.

SP:

(my list) [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/EvUzgK5mipxiCSZG6[/URL].

(world traveler's list) [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.564361890150447%2C-46.614193590780076&z=12[/URL]..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2558879]
If you travel around the world, you see that economic disparity between men and women is a big driver of sexual relations whether it's completely transparent or not. My experience is that it's hard to hook-up with a middle class Brazilian girl. You likely need introductions. You likely need to be living in Brazil or have a clear reason to return often (business, friends, etc.).
[/QUOTE]Exactly! And even when you manage to score, you're forgetting the jealousy. Once I took a non-pro to Buzios after a couple of dates and I couldn't wait till it was over. A couple of stray glances at other women and I was done for. The screaming, the crying, the arm-waving, my god!

No, not my cup of tea, thank you very much.

Danni Suzuki.

[URL]https://youtu.be/NqFunkQ4uMM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2559024]Exactly! And even when you manage to score, you're forgetting the jealousy. Once I took a non-pro to Buzios after a couple of dates and I couldn't wait till it was over. A couple of stray glances at other women and I was done for. The screaming, the crying, the arm-waving, my god!

No, not my cup of tea, thank you very much.

Danni Suzuki...[/QUOTE]I am surprised at folks who want to date non-pros. Even if one is able to overcome the basic stuff, like language barrier, culture barrier, and others, you would not get much from the encounter. Most girls are looking for a permanent relationship, like marriage, with the man paying for everything. To me, that is not something I look forward to.

Even if one can find a fuck buddy with no strings attached, you're likely to get tired of that pussy after some time, then what?, back to looking for another one. Too much work for me.

The mini relationship with a pro is optimal.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2559084]I am surprised at folks who want to date non-pros. Even if one is able to overcome the basic stuff, like language barrier, culture barrier, and others, you would not get much from the encounter. Most girls are looking for a permanent relationship, like marriage, with the man paying for everything. To me, that is not something I look forward to.

Even if one can find a fuck buddy with no strings attached, you're likely to get tired of that pussy after some time, then what?, back to looking for another one. Too much work for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2559084]I am surprised at folks who want to date non-pros. Even if one is able to overcome the basic stuff, like language barrier, culture barrier, and others, you would not get much from the encounter. Most girls are looking for a permanent relationship, like marriage, with the man paying for everything. To me, that is not something I look forward to.

Even if one can find a fuck buddy with no strings attached, you're likely to get tired of that pussy after some time, then what?, back to looking for another one. Too much work for me.[/QUOTE]I can't echo these comments enough. They want you to pay indefinitely for everything and you can never have enough money. Even if the fun wanes the payment must continue. They have no qualms about seeking out the next source of payments if you fail to meet their payment expectations or simply stop paying. When they say they want a relationship that means they want someone to pay everything for them.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2559084]I am surprised at folks who want to date non-pros. Even if one is able to overcome the basic stuff, like language barrier, culture barrier, and others, you would not get much from the encounter. Most girls are looking for a permanent relationship, like marriage, with the man paying for everything. To me, that is not something I look forward to.[/QUOTE]You must know a different Brazil because what you describe is not the normal Brazilian chick that I know. The Brazilian chicks that I know pull their own weight and are not trying to be dependent on a man to pay for everything. Most will not go on trips with you if they can not pay their share.

Do you know how many chicks have come to see me in Rio or Sao Paulo from other cities in Brazil, or have come to see me in the States from Brazil? They have all paid their own way. Hell, the other day in Curitiba a chick paid for my hotel for 2 nights and wanted me to use her car while she was at work. Even a long time ago when I met a chick online that told me she worked in an office, she was paying for everything when we went out together. I did not find out she was actually a hooker until I saw her out in front of Help one night. They are not the freeloaders that you describe. That sounds more like some Dominican Republic shit.

"Quantos dias vai ficar them Curitiba? Posso te ajudar com hotel eu tenho uma vida difcil, alias esta pior com essa Pandemia, mas posso pagar hotel, mais do que isso ando terei condies, posso te emprestar o carro enquanto trabalho".

[QUOTE=TheCane;2558959]You did his dumb ass a favor! I hope he finally came to your senses and thanked you for it later.[/QUOTE]There are posters on this site who believe they're banging non-pros. They'd be hurt if they knew the truth.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2559084]I am surprised at folks who want to date non-pros. Even if one is able to overcome the basic stuff, like language barrier, culture barrier, and others, you would not get much from the encounter.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Brazil is propably one of the easiest countries in the world to meet regular girls. Some might want something serious but most of them are happy with casual sex without money involved.
I like the mixture of pro's and regular girls, but I have many friends who goes to Brazil only to f*ck regular girls. Not to forget that the quality of the sex is often better with regular girls.

Pro's do have some advantages. If I decide "today I want to f*ck a..." black/white/horseass/ponyass/big tits/small tits girl, then this can quickly be solved by going to a privê.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2558994]It sounds like you already have some mongering experience in RJ and SP. So I'm guessing you've had an account and TheDerilious is a secondary account? Or are you just new to ISG?[/QUOTE]This is my first time to Brazil. My experience internationally has been mostly in Argentina and Chile, and in SE Asia. I've known about ISG for a few years now but by the time I found it, I hadn't been as active in international mongering outside of a few quicker trips to SE Asia that wouldn't have been very helpful. I tend to use the highly rated soapies there or online escorts which doesn't seem to be a major focus of the mongers here (most are looking for bar reports or how the gogo scene is). I usually hit up girls on Whatsapp as well which has proven pretty good (supposedly this has changed a bit since I was last there in 2019) for some short relationships. I do have an account on the American version of this site that I post more often in for local reports.

In terms of Rio and SP.

My guaranteed tryouts will be at.

- BarrasVip / private55/ other escort sites.

- Scandallo in SP (high price tag but I want to see if the fuss is worth it) and maybe Bomboa.

- Clinica Abbobora, Clinica Miruna, Enjoy Spa in SP. I need to read further back to find out some other good ones.

- Centauras, Solarium, MC termas in Rio. I want to try out the tier 1 termas.

- Vagabundo / ISG prives in Rio - most of the veterans have posted reports of different places they have tried so I'll go back through the reports and pick a few that seem interesting.

- Social Media - not sure about this yet but I'll see what's available on Tinder / Whatsapp / Twitter or whatever social media is used in Brazil for meeting up. I'm not looking specifically for free or non-pro memes, but rather some chill date nights or companion dating with a little extra that I can compensate them for. It's just a different style of meetup than the normal timed booking, even though they both essentially do the same thing.

Not sure where I'm staying in SP yet, somewhere in Moema to be close to the clinicas or maybe Avenida Paulista to be in a more touristy place (a Brazilian colleague recommended some restaurants in the area).

For Rio, I'm staying in Pestana to make things simple since it's my first trip.

FYI — eight hours in a closed enclosed place like 4 x4 and my test came back negative today. More than enough time for the corona to incubate.

Have been fully vaccinated for those who are still on the fence.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2559104]You must know a different Brazil because what you describe is not the normal Brazilian chick that I know. The Brazilian chicks that I know pull their own weight and are not trying to be dependent on a man to pay for everything. Most will not go on trips with you if they can not pay their share. [/QUOTE]Well, that wasn't my experience (although my non-pro Brazil experience is VERY limited), but I'll meet you halfway. Girls I've dated have never turned down my paying for meals, tours or cabs, but they didn't accept gifts like clothes or accessories and insisted they'd pay for them on their own. Come to think of it, one refused to take my money for the food she brought to cook for me. They're certainly not as money-hungry as their Dominican sisters, IMHO. What more bothersome to me is their inclination for drama.

Of course, there was that older chick from Par Perfeito who came up with an elaborate (in her opinion, LOL) money-squeezing plot. And I'd never even gotten to fuck her, kkkk.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2559127]I disagree. Brazil is probably one of the easiest countries in the world to meet regular girls. Some might want something serious but most of them are happy with casual sex without money involved.[/QUOTE]There's a lot of factors the man's age, language skills, time on the ground, etc. Some of us might have different definitions of pro and let's say, semi-pro.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2559210]There's a lot of factors the man's age, language skills, time on the ground, etc. Some of us might have different definitions of pro and let's say, semi-pro.[/QUOTE]
Many on this board loves to rule out regular girls as impossible just because they had no success. Fine, that's their experience, others have a different experience.

There shouldn't be a need to explain that many factors are important if you gonna score regular girls in Brazil or any country in the world. An old, fat gringo with no charm will have problems.
Portuguese skills helps, score a girl without being able to speak with her is harder.
Some of my friends who scores a lot in Brazil have almost no portuguese skills, but they do have great physics and a lot of charm.
If you're old retired guy you shouldn't expect to score 18 year old regular girls, try with the 30+.
Of course, those who doesn't score easily back home shouldn't expect too much with regular girls in Brazil.

I'm sure we divide the girls different. In my "book" it goes like:
1. Girl without no interest at all in gringos.
2. Girl with interest in gringos just because of the attraction. Just wants a romance or a sexual encounter, nothing else.
3. Girl with interest in gringos. Will be your GF and hoping for marriage.
4. Piranha. Don't charge money, but will expect fancy dinners, expensive presents and shopping.
5. Girl with a regular job. Works occasional as GP to pay her bills.
6. Full-time GP.

I divide them as:
Non-pro: 1, 2 and 3 (no 3 almost falling into next category)
Semi-pro: 4
Pro: 5 and 6

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2559188]FYI eight hours in a closed enclosed place like 4 x4 and my test came back negative today. More than enough time for the corona to incubate.

Have been fully vaccinated for those who are still on the fence.[/QUOTE]You need to give it up to two full days or about 48 hours from exposure to incubate, just like with the flu. Only then will you know if you made it without getting infected. You need to wait 48 hours.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2559275]Many on this board loves to rule out regular girls as impossible just because they had no success. Fine, that's their experience, others have a different experience.
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If you're old retired guy you shouldn't expect to score 18 year old regular girls, try with the 30+.
Of course, those who doesn't score easily back home shouldn't expect too much with regular girls in Brazil.[/QUOTE]We're in general agreement. My limited success with Brazilian civilians came when I was at my peak physical appearance and I had Brazilian wingmen in several cities. (It goes without saying women are generally drawn to the energy of a fun group of guys.) No surprise, this time also corresponded to a period of some success back in the United States.

I also agree with your recommendation to up your target age to 30+. As we jokingly say here, single mommies need love too. Some older guys will bang there heads chasing very young women and are surprised when they reel in a piranha. Latin women are also more appreciative of flirting and more so when they are in their mature years.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2559378]I also agree with your recommendation to up your target age to 30+.[/QUOTE]
There is some hope for the old guys.
Not to forget, if you go to the backwaters in Brazil the chance of scoring is much greater. Brazil have 27 state capitals. Only a handful states are used to see gringos. You'll become a novelty, specially if you have blond hair and blue eyes. Resulting you'll have a wider range of available regular girls than you would have in e.g Rio de Janeiro, and also meaning that the old farts propably can lower their targets from 30+ to 20+. There are some tiny paradise cities spread out in Brazil (both in the Amazon and along the litoral) where gringos are very rare and welcomed with open legs.

If somebody is interested in other brazilian capitals I've made a ranking list of the 27 capitals. The list is 15 years old, but it gives a good idea.
[URL]http://internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?573-Other-Areas&p=532479&viewfull=1#post532479[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2559309]You need to give it up to two full days or about 48 hours from exposure to incubate, just like with the flu. Only then will you know if you made it without getting infected. You need to wait 48 hours.[/QUOTE]It has been a week since my 4 x4 experience.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2559394]There is some hope for the old guys. . .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2559378]. . . Some older guys will bang there heads chasing very young women and are surprised when they reel in a piranha. . .[/QUOTE]Brazil / Latin American has always been a appealing and seductive place, for elder men to date younger women half their age, without any (or very little) societal backlash or becoming a social pariah.

So on the off chance, some of us elder statesmen / mongers happen to score with a nice hot 20+ something, your youthful choices aren't necessarily going to be a social death sentence.

Carry On!

[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2558900]I think back on my days in Thailand and the infamous ACE building where many mongers swore by it, but I could never justify how horrible that place made me feel (I went with a friend and I ended up waiting outside).[/QUOTE]I'm not familiar with that one. Can you enlighten Us? (BTW, I'm currently in Thailand.) TIA.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2559394]There is some hope for the old guys.
Not to forget, if you go to the backwaters in Brazil the chance of scoring is much greater. Brazil have 27 state capitals. Only a handful states are used to see gringos. You'll become a novelty, specially if you have blond hair and blue eyes. Resulting you'll have a wider range of available regular girls than you would have in e.g Rio de Janeiro, and also meaning that the old farts propably can lower their targets from 30+ to 20+....[/QUOTE]In the backwaters of Brazil an old, blond hair, blue eyed fart = Ka-ching. Babe magnet.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2559479]In the backwaters of Brazil an old, blond hair, blue eyed fart = Ka-ching. Babe magnet.[/QUOTE]Go see "Cidade deus", you're the "exceção à regra".

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2559462]I'm not familiar with that one. Can you enlighten Us? (BTW, I'm currently in Thailand.) TIA.[/QUOTE]Rundown building in Bangkok, 100 baht for quick pay for play. Middle-aged ladies wait in tiny rooms, quick cleaning of your junk in a basin, no GFE, no extras, quick pop and you are out. I had a friend who was a major penny pincher and seemed to revel in paying the least amount of money to nut, regardless of what that actually entailed and he took me there on a whim. I don't recommend it and I just waited down the block and ate some food when I saw the place. Search the Bangkok forums for more info since I literally don't even know where it was (just following him). I'm sure some experienced posters will know more, but I have tried wiping it from my mind.

I had a 3 pernoite week with Monique, 250 pernoite plus uber and eats, and there are so many young lasses lined up to take her place in my bed. Good problems.

I went into Rio centro today, but was a little knackered, so I came back to catch up on sleep.

Thanks to the veterans here like Senor Sperto for the list of other cities to visit in Brazil.

For what it is worth, as in the "two deaths of quincas water bray" this is a group not unlike that group, in which I admire the character of the corporal.

Police made raids at 2 puteiros in Niteroi.
One seems to be Club 498 on Rua Barão do Amazonas 498, trash casa.
https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2021/05/6145089-policia-civil-interdita-duas-casas-de-prostituicao-em-niteroi.html

[QUOTE=Spidy;2559445]Brazil / Latin American has always been a appealing and seductive place, for elder men to date younger women half their age, without any (or very little) societal backlash or becoming a social pariah.

So on the off chance, some of us elder statesmen / mongers happen to score with a nice hot 20+ something, your youthful choices aren't necessarily going to be a social death sentence.

Carry On![/QUOTE]I've been going to Rio for 41 years so yeah that makes me an elder statesman too. I'm okay with it but you have to try and keep yourself in shape but it does get harder and harder. On a recent trip I had an 18 year old escort show up at my hotel, they called me down to the reception she didn't have her ID but it was being discussed out loud that she was 18 for everybody in the reception area to hear. Now with me standing there like a broken down suitcase or old pair of shoes, she produces a picture of her ID on her phone and we're good to go. But I was thinking what the families in the lobby were thinking.

15 years ago I could pick up a 25 year old non pro but through the years the number has been rising, last year I picked up a chick who was 37, she worked as a chef in So Paulo. After an hour with me she said you're a safado aren't you? I really didn't expect this hot sex LOL. And she was my second one for the day, I had an escort earlier. You can play this game well into your 60's if you don't look or act or dress like an old man.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2559604]I've been going to Rio for 41 years so yeah that makes me an elder statesman too. I'm okay with it but you have to try and keep yourself in shape but it does get harder and harder. On a recent trip I had an 18 year old escort show up at my hotel, they called me down to the reception she didn't have her ID but it was being discussed out loud that she was 18 for everybody in the reception area to hear. Now with me standing there like a broken down suitcase or old pair of shoes, she produces a picture of her ID on her phone and we're good to go. But I was thinking what the families in the lobby were thinking.

15 years ago I could pick up a 25 year old non pro but through the years the number has been rising, last year I picked up a chick who was 37, she worked as a chef in So Paulo. After an hour with me she said you're a safado aren't you? I really didn't expect this hot sex LOL. And she was my second one for the day, I had an escort earlier. You can play this game well into your 60's if you don't look or act or dress like an old man.[/QUOTE]People have no idea of my age, and will often guess that I'm 20+ years younger than I am! I must be doing something right, but genes clearly have a lot to do with that. No problems getting a boner for hot girls, and still cum multiple times during sessions. Hallelujah!

Does anyone know how easy it is to get testosterone in injection form in Rio or even Sao Paulo?

My friend is looking to go to Brazil and due to the rules coming back into our country might have to stay there a while and he is already on self prescribed trt so will need some if he is there a while.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2559566]Police made raids at 2 puteiros in Niteroi.
One seems to be Club 498 on Rua Baro do Amazonas 498, trash casa.
https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2021/05/6145089-policia-civil-interdita-duas-casas-de-prostituicao-em-niteroi.html[/QUOTE]I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2559621]Does anyone know how easy it is to get testosterone in injection form in Rio or even Sao Paulo?

My friend is looking to go to Brazil and due to the rules coming back into our country might have to stay there a while and he is already on self prescribed trt so will need some if he is there a while.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Not trying to start drama but why did you mention self-prescribed TRT? You might as well just say TRT 😂.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2559394]There is some hope for the old guys.
Not to forget, if you go to the backwaters in Brazil the chance of scoring is much greater. Brazil have 27 state capitals. Only a handful states are used to see gringos. You'll become a novelty, specially if you have blond hair and blue eyes. Resulting you'll have a wider range of available regular girls than you would have in e.g Rio de Janeiro, and also meaning that the old farts propably can lower their targets from 30+ to 20+. There are some tiny paradise cities spread out in Brazil (both in the Amazon and along the litoral) where gringos are very rare and welcomed with open legs.

If somebody is interested in other brazilian capitals I've made a ranking list of the 27 capitals. The list is 15 years old, but it gives a good idea.
[URL]http://internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?573-Other-Areas&p=532479&viewfull=1#post532479[/URL][/QUOTE]Love this topic. Question from a young guy who hasn't travelled to South America to monger yet, if there are talks of the "dangers" of walking around Centro Medellin or Rio and getting robbed, would the chances of those incidents happening be HIGHER in these backwaters of Brazil?

Granted, you are not walking around flashing money like an idiot.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2559669]Not trying to start drama but why did you mention self-prescribed TRT? You might as well just say TRT.[/QUOTE]Because if it was prescribed by a doctor he could take it over in his luggage with his prescription.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2559671] if there are talks of the "dangers" of walking around Centro Medellin or Rio and getting robbed, would the chances of those incidents happening be HIGHER in these backwaters of Brazil?.[/QUOTE]I would say there is close to a 0% chance. The main place that you need to look out in is Rio. The rest of Brazil is nothing like it and most people from other cities are even afraid to go there. The rest of Brazil is nowhere near as dangerous or favela-y. It is pretty laid back and quiet. Of the tons of cities that I have been to in Brazil, Maceio sticks out as one of my favorites and I could see myself living there.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2559604]I've been going to Rio for 41 years so yeah that makes me an elder statesman too. . .[/QUOTE]Amazing! You have me bested by 10 years (off and on over last 31 yrs). Carry On!

[QUOTE=RioBob;2559604]. . . she said you're a safado aren't you? I really didn't expect this hot sex LOL. And she was my second one for the day, I had an escort earlier. You can play this game well into your 60's if you don't look or act or dress like an old man.[/QUOTE]Yep, those are most definitely words to live by. Treat your self well and moments like you describe, happen more often than not, for us such elder statesmen of distinction...kkk.

But why stop at 60? Well, I guess we all have to stop mongering at some point. Just enjoy and continue having fun trying to figure out that enigma.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2559671]Love this topic. Question from a young guy who hasn't travelled to South America to monger yet, if there are talks of the "dangers" of walking around Centro Medellin or Rio and getting robbed, would the chances of those incidents happening be HIGHER in these backwaters of Brazil?s.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2559696]I would say there is close to a 0% chance. The main place that you need to look out in is Rio. The rest of Brazil is nothing like it and most people from other cities are even afraid to go there. The rest of Brazil is nowhere near as dangerous or favela-y. It is pretty laid back and quiet. Of the tons of cities that I have been to in Brazil, Maceio sticks out as one of my favorites and I could see myself living there.[/QUOTE]While I personally have never experienced any problems, walking around in downtown centro (at all hours), in the big cites (Rio, SP, BH, Salv.) or the smaller cites for that matter, it is interesting to note that the highest crime rate / murders per capita, year over year, are always in the smaller Brazilian cities (Natal, Fortaleza, Manaus, Recife, Aracaju even Macei).

[url]https://9jatoday.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world/[/url]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate[/url]

Perhaps a bit puzzling to decipher, why smaller cities have high crime rates, than RJ / SP, but make of it, what you will.

My personal experiences staying in many of these "smaller cities", has been all good, except for the major fluctuations in talent / action from time to time.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2559671]Love this topic. Question from a young guy who hasn't travelled to South America to monger yet, if there are talks of the "dangers" of walking around Centro Medellin or Rio and getting robbed, would the chances of those incidents happening be HIGHER in these backwaters of Brazil?

Granted, you are not walking around flashing money like an idiot.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I believe any big city in Brazil has dangers lurking around when a vacationing gringo is walking down the street without a worry in the world. I've been warned to be careful in the following cities aside from Rio: SP, Manaus, Sao Luiz (multiple times in my two separate 1-night stays including a cabby who told me not to walk 200-300 yards across the central plaza to my hotel late at night), Iguassu (warned repeatedly by the well-meaning locals), Salvador (again warned repeatedly by the well-meaning locals), Porto Allegro (by an expat couple living there for 10 years). Interestingly, denizens of Curitiba seem to be more relaxed about street crime, but that might be just my impression.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2559671]Love this topic. Question from a young guy who hasn't travelled to South America to monger yet, if there are talks of the "dangers" of walking around Centro Medellin or Rio and getting robbed, would the chances of those incidents happening be HIGHER in these backwaters of Brazil?[/QUOTE]
In general the brazilian capitals in the north and northeast are more violent than Rio de Janeiro. Most of the major cities have favelas with the presence of all the usual criminal organizations. Your safety depends on where you go and when. Many of these capitals have centros that are perfectly safe during daytime but are deserted and dangerous at nighttime. Some of the capitals have touristic bairros where you can feel quite safe at night. In 31 years I've never been mugged in Brazil. I think you could feel safe as long as you use common sense. On the other hand if you walk into the wrong street and are unlucky you might get robbed.

Rio is just around the corner!

The discos haven't opened yet, have they? Do you know when they might open?

On the other hand, we will go to the Transamerica but we also want to see the best places for our first time in Rio (thermal baths, discos, clubs, etc.)

Maybe:

X days for Transamerica.

1 day for 4 x 4 or Montecarlo?

1 day for Mabs.

1 day for Copa 583.

Security is something I have written a lot about in the last year and a half. Mainly it comes down to situational awareness. The biggest things are simple, like not being on your cell phone at a outdoor cafe in Copa or in Centro at night where the risk of theft is obvious and high.

Wingmen are key. Talk about security even minimally at first. Plan if there is a threat is go away and get into an uber, or if necessary a cop. Does your wingman have a basic level of fitness, and any martial arts or military experience? Can your wingman dial an uber, the police (190), an ambulance (192), a bombeiro (193) to where you are?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2559772]In general the brazilian capitals in the north and northeast are more violent than Rio de Janeiro. Most of the major cities have favelas with the presence of all the usual criminal organizations. Your safety depends on where you go and when. Many of these capitals have centros that are perfectly safe during daytime but are deserted and dangerous at nighttime. Some of the capitals have touristic bairros where you can feel quite safe at night. In 31 years I've never been mugged in Brazil. I think you could feel safe as long as you use common sense. On the other hand if you walk into the wrong street and are unlucky you might get robbed.[/QUOTE]

Someone added a report a couple of months back, in which they stated that security was looking at photo identification before entering the elevator in No Centro, specifically at Rio Branco 156 building. Can anyone verify if this has become the common practice now? I hope that is not the case. My assumption is that due to people wearing masks, it will deter potential mugging or theft.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2559671]Love this topic. Question from a young guy who hasn't travelled to South America to monger yet, if there are talks of the "dangers" of walking around Centro Medellin or Rio and getting robbed, would the chances of those incidents happening be HIGHER in these backwaters of Brazil?

Granted, you are not walking around flashing money like an idiot.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Fact is if you're a blond blue eyed gringo in a third world country you have to be much more careful than the other guy. They're not racist, they're moneyist.

How popular is SA in Rio? Or Tinder? Where do you find semi-pros or non-pros?

Population of Rio is almost 7 million, however pickings on SA are extra slim, no stunners. Most girls have not been active / online for days, does not make sense to even message them.

Not interested in hardcore pros or brothels / strip clubs, etc because I prefer regular dates that end at my apartment rather than "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of sessions.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2559824]Fact is if you're a blond blue eyed gringo in a third world country you have to be much more careful than the other guy. They're not racist, they're moneyist.[/QUOTE]I use these rules in any urban environment, stateside or otherwise. 1) Act like you know where you're going. Walk with purpose and intention, as if you are on your way to an important appointment. The 1st problem any fucker will have is how to get you to stop / slow down. If you're moving at a good pace, they often decide it's not worth the trouble. 2) Be aware of your environment but don't look people in the eye for a long time or sightsee. 3) Attempt to give off an air of indifference backed with " I'm important & not to be fucked with". Obviously, don't flash fancy clothes, jewelry etc. And if you do find yourself in a bad situation, give it up and live to monger another day. Everybody has had an embarrassing day or two in this game.

Hi,

I will be going to Rio after 10 years.

Can anyone please give me some information.

Where all the action happens?

And the prices of Monte Carlo and Centaurus.

Thank.

You.

Yes, it has become the norm at RB156.

However, you can tell them I don't have my ID. They will take a picture, which accomplishes the deterrence you suggest.

[QUOTE=Mangera;2559816]Someone added a report a couple of months back, in which they stated that security was looking at photo identification before entering the elevator in No Centro, specifically at Rio Branco 156 building. Can anyone verify if this has become the common practice now? I hope that is not the case. My assumption is that due to people wearing masks, it will deter potential mugging or theft.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2559831]I use these rules in any urban environment, stateside or otherwise......[/QUOTE]In Brazil, I also follow a general rule that at night I will Uber and taxi even short distances. Some of my crew start to think they are invincible in Rio and walk back to the apartment or hotel. Me never.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2559829]Not interested in hardcore pros or brothels / strip clubs, etc because I prefer regular dates that end at my apartment rather than "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of sessions.[/QUOTE]How would you know the difference? Hard core hookers go out on dates with guys. Just ask for that service.

The same way that you tell her you want to fuck her ass, you can tell her that you want to go see a play before going back to your place to fuck her in the ass. Back in the day you would see plenty of hard core hookers out on dates at Marius restaurant.

How can hard core mongers expect a site they use not be full of hard core hookers? You want to pay a chick to fuck, but you don't want it to be a chick that gets paid to fuck? Good luck with that one. You are not fucking and paying someone that has not been fucked and paid by someone else before. Just enjoy your turn without trying to trick yourself to believe she is hallowed or seldom-touched ground.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2559814]Wingmen are key.[/QUOTE]
Going out with buddies is always fun, but personally I feel safer when I go alone.

[QUOTE=TShelby;2559790]Rio is just around the corner!

The discos haven't opened yet, have they? Do you know when they might open?

On the other hand, we will go to the Transamerica but we also want to see the best places for our first time in Rio (thermal baths, discos, clubs, etc.)

Maybe:

X days for Transamerica.

1 day for 4 x 4 or Montecarlo?

1 day for Mabs.

1 day for Copa 583.[/QUOTE]First off, 4 x 4 yes. Monte Carlo no. While you're heading down to Centro to check out 4 x4, explore some of the Centro prives mentioned here before 4 x 4 really gets going after 5 pm.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2559829]How popular is SA in Rio? Or Tinder? Where do you find semi-pros or non-pros?

Population of Rio is almost 7 million, however pickings on SA are extra slim, no stunners. Most girls have not been active / online for days, does not make sense to even message them.

Not interested in hardcore pros or brothels / strip clubs, etc because I prefer regular dates that end at my apartment rather than "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of sessions.[/QUOTE]Mr Enternational gave some good advice.

The gents on the Seeking Arrangements thread gave some thoughts on this awhile back. In a country like Brazil where P4 P is open, legal and widely available, it seems SA is not a popular medium for hooking up. Perhaps that will change.

If you want a "date", you might be surprised how a termas girl might react positively to an offer of dinner and a romp. If you are hung-up on this "hardcore" concept, it seems like some guys work various social media real hard for weeks / months before arriving. Of course if a girl agrees to meet with and hints at sexual relations, you never know how many men she is meeting for sex. At least, you are getting the thrill of the chase that you will not have at a brothel or P4 P club. FYI, the ISG guys who play on Brazilian social media generally don't play there at the exclusion of the pro scene.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2559849]How would you know the difference? Hard core hookers go out on dates with guys. Just ask for that service.

The same way that you tell her you want to fuck her ass, you can tell her that you want to go see a play before going back to your place to fuck her in the ass. Back in the day you would see plenty of hard core hookers out on dates at Marius restaurant.

How can hard core mongers expect a site they use not be full of hard core hookers? You want to pay a chick to fuck, but you don't want it to be a chick that gets paid to fuck? Good luck with that one. You are not fucking and paying someone that has not been fucked and paid by someone else before. Just enjoy your turn without trying to trick yourself to believe she is hallowed or seldom-touched ground.[/QUOTE]I'm not tricking myself. If you pay her cash, she is a hooker, period. However hardcore pros in my understanding are those charging by the hour and / or having a price list for extras (BBBJ, etc.). You don't take them out to dinner, why would you? She comes over, you fuck, pay her, she leaves (onto the next guy). This is why I love SA, because I don't discuss extras or set any time limits with SA girls. I just tell them I want to have a good time and I don't like to be in a rush. BBBJ, kissing, etc usually occurs naturally. And chemistry is very important to me, because I want to repeat with the right girl. I consider SA girls low volume hookers, or semi-pros.

Anyways, I was asking board members about their SA experience in Rio, not about the difference between types of hookers.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2559886]I'm not tricking myself. . I consider SA girls low volume hookers, or semi-pros.[/QUOTE]LOL. And that is what I meant by tricking yourself. There is no website that chicks that are looking to get paid go to because they are low volume. You could not seriously think she got on the site to wait on reais from only 1 or 2 guys. Before or after those 1 or 2, what do you suppose she was doing or is going to do?

Like anything else, you dress for the occasion. When on SA they know to present themselves one way. When working at a termas they know to present themselves one way. When working Tinder they know to present themselves one way. A hooker on any other website does just as much fucking.

Higher risk cities on the list in the order: Feira de Santana, Fortaleza, Mossoro, Vitoria the Conquista, Salvador, Rio Branco, Maceio, Recife, Caruaru, Natal and Teresina. As always better to verify in advance which areas of the city to avoid and when. If the venue is in a problematic area then it's your call.

[URL]http://m.associacaomediterraneo.com/[/URL]

The free bus from Transamerica goes right by all three of the locations. You can find the schedule on the condo website.

It goes from Barra P6 to Gavea to Leblon beach, all along the beach to P1 at Leme, takes a left at Mabs, and then to Centro, Va Presidente Wilson 147, or "bedoiun" the Arab restaurant across from the US Consulate.

The bus is a great hack because it is a luxury turismo bus, and as such is much better than the city buses.

A uber fare from Barra to RB156 is a half hour in a prive with a top shelf prive girl.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2559860]First off, 4 x 4 yes. Monte Carlo no. While you're heading down to Centro to check out 4 x4, explore some of the Centro prives mentioned here before 4 x 4 really gets going after 5 pm.[/QUOTE]

Only thing I would add is have a NSFW Social Media profile that doesn't disclose your real name, otherwise you expose yourself to extortion games by the working girls who share their strategies for shakedowns.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2559871]Mr Enternational gave some good advice.

The gents on the Seeking Arrangements thread gave some thoughts on this awhile back. In a country like Brazil where P4 P is open, legal and widely available, it seems SA is not a popular medium for hooking up. Perhaps that will change.

If you want a "date", you might be surprised how a termas girl might react positively to an offer of dinner and a romp. If you are hung-up on this "hardcore" concept, it seems like some guys work various social media real hard for weeks / months before arriving. Of course if a girl agrees to meet with and hints at sexual relations, you never know how many men she is meeting for sex. At least, you are getting the thrill of the chase that you will not have at a brothel or P4 P club. FYI, the ISG guys who play on Brazilian social media generally don't play there at the exclusion of the pro scene.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2559913]LOL. And that is what I meant by tricking yourself. There is no website that chicks that are looking to get paid go to because they are low volume. You could not seriously think she got on the site to wait on reais from only 1 or 2 guys. Before or after those 1 or 2, what do you suppose she was doing or is going to do?[/QUOTE]I think this is really valid. Let's not kid ourselves-at the end of the day if you are paying you are paying. However, to the original posters point-with SA and the "low volume" lifestyle this guy is talking about there is a way in which the *girl* can deny the reality of her profession to *herself*. Many of these women will emphasize that they are "students", etc and envision-however unrealistically-a professional future because they are to some extent ashamed of what they have become.

After we broke up, I used to check in on the social media account of a stripper / working girl I used to date in the US (not a paid relationship) and would always notice how she would try to paint a picture of herself to the world as a sober, serious student with professional aspirations- which might've come true- but I'm sure she always felt like she was trying to hide from her past.

Source of information on Hotel Ceara at VM. This makes all the difference as it is 150 meters from VM, 75 meters from Mosaico.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2522203]Rua Cear 221. It's impossible to miss when leaving VM.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149294&d=1302444512[/URL]

A better PDF-map ("Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map") in:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1143546&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1143546.

P. S If the newbies need to orientate themselfes in VM:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149295&d=1302444580[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2559849]How would you know the difference? Hard core hookers go out on dates with guys. Just ask for that service.

The same way that you tell her you want to fuck her ass, you can tell her that you want to go see a play before going back to your place to fuck her in the ass. Back in the day you would see plenty of hard core hookers out on dates at Marius restaurant.

How can hard core mongers expect a site they use not be full of hard core hookers? You want to pay a chick to fuck, but you don't want it to be a chick that gets paid to fuck? Good luck with that one. You are not fucking and paying someone that has not been fucked and paid by someone else before. Just enjoy your turn without trying to trick yourself to believe she is hallowed or seldom-touched ground.[/QUOTE]Truer words have never been spoken. LOL.

What are all those babes from Tinder and SA doing when they aren't being paid playing girlfriends?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2559940][URL]http://m.associacaomediterraneo.com/[/URL]

The free bus from Transamerica goes right by all three of the locations. You can find the schedule on the condo website.

It goes from Barra P6 to Gavea to Leblon beach, all along the beach to P1 at Leme, takes a left at Mabs, and then to Centro, Va Presidente Wilson 147, or "bedoiun" the Arab restaurant across from the US Consulate.

The bus is a great hack because it is a luxury turismo bus, and as such is much better than the city buses.

A uber fare from Barra to RB156 is a half hour in a prive with a top shelf prive girl.[/QUOTE]Thanks for making it. Easily overlooked in the "is she really a ho?" discussion.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2559714]It is interesting to note that the highest crime rate / murders per capita, year over year, are always in the smaller Brazilian cities (Natal, Fortaleza, Manaus, Recife, Aracaju even Macei).

Perhaps a bit puzzling to decipher, why smaller cities have high crime rates, than RJ / SP, but make of it, what you will.[/QUOTE]This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. Flimsy leadership and and bunch of broke MF'ers is a bad combo.

In smaller city favelas / slums the fear factor is lacking. People are willing to test the waters. In Rio, not so much. If you break laws of the favela you are judged by what's called the tribunal of trafico. If you get the thumbs down you're out of here like in ancient Rome. Right then and there you're done, usually in grotesque fashion. So that's a pretty strong motivation not to vacilar. Smaller cities don't have the same organization and structure to discourage. In the NE in Ceara, it's still like Rio was 30+ years ago. The gangs don't have G3 rifles, mostly 38's and shotguns. So the police kill a lot more bandits. They can enter favelas at will. In Rio, it has to be a planned operation. Also, there are more milicias which are basically dirty cops who also murder a lot. Overall a lot more freelancers not used to answering to anybody. At least that's what I've witnessed.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2560214]This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. Flimsy leadership and and bunch of broke MF'ers is a bad combo.

In smaller city favelas / slums the fear factor is lacking. People are willing to test the waters. In Rio, not so much. If you break laws of the favela you are judged by what's called the tribunal of trafico. If you get the thumbs down you're out of here like in ancient Rome. Right then and there you're done, usually in grotesque fashion. So that's a pretty strong motivation not to vacilar. Smaller cities don't have the same organization and structure to discourage. In the NE in Ceara, it's still like Rio was 30+ years ago. The gangs don't have G3 rifles, mostly 38's and shotguns. So the police kill a lot more bandits. They can enter favelas at will. In Rio, it has to be a planned operation. Also, there are more milicias which are basically dirty cops who also murder a lot. Overall a lot more freelancers not used to answering to anybody. At least that's what I've witnessed.[/QUOTE]You've got bigger balls than me! I've only been to that Favela right up from the Cantagalo metro station and from what I understand that's "Favela-lite. ".

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2560214]This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. Flimsy leadership and and bunch of broke MF'ers is a bad combo.

In smaller city favelas / slums the fear factor is lacking. People are willing to test the waters. In Rio, not so much. If you break laws of the favela you are judged by what's called the tribunal of trafico. If you get the thumbs down you're out of here like in ancient Rome. Right then and there you're done, usually in grotesque fashion. So that's a pretty strong motivation not to vacilar. Smaller cities don't have the same organization and structure to discourage. In the NE in Ceara, it's still like Rio was 30+ years ago. The gangs don't have G3 rifles, mostly 38's and shotguns. So the police kill a lot more bandits. They can enter favelas at will. In Rio, it has to be a planned operation. Also, there are more milicias which are basically dirty cops who also murder a lot. Overall a lot more freelancers not used to answering to anybody. At least that's what I've witnessed.[/QUOTE]Toto,

I don't think we are in the tourist area of Rio anymore.

There was a time when the foreign media was fixated on the pacification of the favelas before the World Cup and Olympics. Those who knew I travelled often to Brazil asked me what I thought. I told them that drug lords in the favelas maintained order particularly over the young thugs (favela rats) who would otherwise be preying on tourists. After they were kicked out, that is exactly what happened. The favela rats were jumping up beside buses taking phones and necklaces. They didn't discriminate. Victims were tourists and natives alike. If you are a gringo visiting a favela one of the reasons you might be there is as a paying customer. Who wants to hurt a paying customer? Another reason is you may be with someone who lives there. Again, no reason to cause you harm.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2559843]Yes, it has become the norm at RB156.

However, you can tell them I don't have my ID. They will take a picture, which accomplishes the deterrence you suggest.[/QUOTE]What a pain in the ass, but it is what it is.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2560214]This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. [/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, what attracts you to favelas?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2559714]Perhaps a bit puzzling to decipher, why smaller cities have high crime rates, than RJ / SP, but make of it, what you will.[/QUOTE]
There is an explaination why many cities in northeast amd north have very high murder rates. The last decades these regions had a quick economic growth. Unfortunately the public security have not grown much. The police forces are way to small and the prisons are crowded.
During the last decade many of the criminal organizations have grown very strong in these regions. Besides the big ones like Comando Vermelho and Primeiro Comando da Capital there are also lots of others like Terceiro Comando Puro, Amigos dos Amigos, Família do Norte and many more local organizations. They fight over territory and control of the drug trafficing. These fights combined with understaffed PM and violent milícias creates chaos and results in many people being killed.

Sunday I linked up with a ISG member.

The non writing readers of ISG are quality.

We met some quality influencers here. Had dinner.

Monday, I was whatsapping with a girl at the former secret terma, who lured me into meeting her with the promise of a bare buceta.

When I got there it became clear it was a run around, so I left for T31.

The little crew of 5 souls was just opening.

I asked after Rihanna Noir, who is no more, alas.

I finally caught a city bus to VM, where I banged for 65 are.

I took a car back to barra and crashed.

In all, the cost of the cars on indriver (recommended, as you can set your price) was more than the girls.

Ana Foxxx who had been distant is messaging me for a pernoite, and I am happy about that.

One of the crew from the General's last patrol is coming in tomorrow, so we shall have an engov and go pick some pernoite candidates together from among the usual suspects.

Both sides carry FN FAL.

Same bullets (7.62 x51 NATO) different magazines from G3.

Something you'd want to not screw up.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2560294]Toto,

I don't think we are in the tourist area of Rio anymore.

There was a time when the foreign media was fixated on the pacification of the favelas before the World Cup and Olympics. Those who knew I travelled often to Brazil asked me what I thought. I told them that drug lords in the favelas maintained order particularly over the young thugs (favela rats) who would otherwise be preying on tourists. After they were kicked out, that is exactly what happened. The favela rats were jumping up beside buses taking phones and necklaces. They didn't discriminate. Victims were tourists and natives alike. If you are a gringo visiting a favela one of the reasons you might be there is as a paying customer. Who wants to hurt a paying customer? Another reason is you may be with someone who lives there. Again, no reason to cause you harm.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2560328]Just out of curiosity, what attracts you to favelas?[/QUOTE]I was two times deeply inside Rocinha with a guide living in this favela, I saw young men strongly armed, I saw old or fresh bullets holes on the walls I like to have adrenaline.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2559685]Because if it was prescribed by a doctor he could take it over in his luggage with his prescription.[/QUOTE]Came through GRU this morning, nobody even looked in my direction. I think its safe to say your friend won't have any trouble bringing his stash in.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2560214]This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. Flimsy leadership and and bunch of broke MF'ers is a bad combo.

In smaller city favelas / slums the fear factor is lacking. People are willing to test the waters. In Rio, not so much. If you break laws of the favela you are judged by what's called the tribunal of trafico. If you get the thumbs down you're out of here like in ancient Rome. Right then and there you're done, usually in grotesque fashion. So that's a pretty strong motivation not to vacilar. Smaller cities don't have the same organization and structure to discourage. In the NE in Ceara, it's still like Rio was 30+ years ago. The gangs don't have G3 rifles, mostly 38's and shotguns. So the police kill a lot more bandits. They can enter favelas at will. In Rio, it has to be a planned operation. Also, there are more milicias which are basically dirty cops who also murder a lot. Overall a lot more freelancers not used to answering to anybody. At least that's what I've witnessed.[/QUOTE]I always thought that if I ever wanted to commit suicide I would not jump off a tall building, drink poison or shoot myself in the head; I'd just walk into a favela.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2560294]that drug lords in the favelas maintained order particularly over the young thugs (favela rats) who would otherwise be preying on tourists. After they were kicked out, that is exactly what happened. The favela rats were jumping up beside buses taking phones and necklaces. They didn't discriminate. Victims were tourists and natives alike. If you are a gringo visiting a favela one of the reasons you might be there is as a paying customer. Who wants to hurt a paying customer? Another reason is you may be with someone who lives there. Again, no reason to cause you harm.[/QUOTE]The favelas are being run the way all of Brazil used to be run back in the days of the Military Government.

So I banged midori at VM for 80 r today, straight to anal, and blew a load.

Then I had fish at the galeto bandeira at praca bandeira, and walked over to motel Malaga and waited for a car at aconchego carioca.

I had headed into centro aiming for a certain ruiva (redhead) but when we messaged back and forth and she said she wanted to be paid before, I laughed (kkk), and went to another option.

From 4 x 4. Made it through the fire, haha.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2560532]I was two times deeply inside Rocinha with a guide living in this favela, I saw young men strongly armed, I saw old or fresh bullets holes on the walls I like to have adrenaline.[/QUOTE]Just thought for a moment maybe those favela alleyways are paved with golden pussies. Good to know it's just about old, good bullet holes, LOL.

[QUOTE=BrasilNut;2560214]This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs . . .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2560349]There is an explaination why many cities in northeast amd north have very high murder rates. . .[/QUOTE]
The conversation on crime rates in RJ / SP vs. Smaller cities, is being continued in [b]"Rio de Janeiro. Crime & Safety" [/b] thread for those wishing to chime-in and add more to the topic.

Just trying to keep the Rio thread from being cluttered with Crime & Safety talk.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2560575]Came through GRU this morning, nobody even looked in my direction. I think its safe to say your friend won't have any trouble bringing his stash in.[/QUOTE]Obrigado, I'll let him know. He does look dodgy though mind haha.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2560490]One of the crew from the General's last patrol is coming in tomorrow, so we shall have an engov and go pick some pernoite candidates together from among the usual suspects.[/QUOTE]Are we talking about General Osório? I heard he comes back from the dead periodically to bonk garotas.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2560613]So I banged midori at VM for 80 r today, straight to anal, and blew a load.....[/QUOTE]I take it that it was sem condom. Good for you!

Yep.

Straight to the core of the guava.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2560822]I take it that it was sem condom. Good for you![/QUOTE]

If you look back through the Canterbury Tales I have spun, you will find a lewd yarn from about 6 months ago referencing The General.

Alas The Admiral did not make it due to his covid tests preventing travel.

So, yesterday, being Wednesday, or my Sunday, God rested.

Have some sympathy, have some taste.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2560757]Are we talking about General Osrio? I heard he comes back from the dead periodically to bonk garotas.[/QUOTE]

I've been here in Copacabana a few days and things are going well. Flight was a red-eye so the day I landed I crashed in my hotel (Royal Rio Palace) and just slept 12 hours through to get caught up. Royal Rio Palace did not, for that matter, appear to be girlfriendly- but was a good crash pad. The next day I got an early check in at an airbnb on Princesa Isabela, close to Atlantico. I will be here a week.

During that first real day I had been messaging a girl, Clara, on Brazilian Cupid and switched over to whatsapp. I aske her if we could meet for coffee, and she said she didn't like coffee, only expensive dinners, to which I laughed. Shortly after the mask came down and she asked if I wanted massage / sex to which I agreed. First she asked for 250, got her down to 200. I'm sure this is considered high but it was my first day and she looked very attractive. She came over to my airbnb later that day- there was no problem with her entering and we got to business. She was a bit taller than I expected (I prefer the mignon), but a very pretty face, beautiful eyes and nice silicone tits- probably in her late 20's early 30's. The oral she gave was amazing- exactly what I like- deep throat, gagging noises, etc etc. I came twice in her mouth and never got around to intercourse- which she would've required camisinha. Very smart girl, good English, gave me the inside scoop on many things. She said she now no longer works at termas but prefers tinder, etc because she has more choice and also has a legit part time job. Very sexy girl, will see her again and propose 150 for only oral.

That night I went out really with the intention of just looking but of course couldn't help myself. Checked out Kalabria, 9 or so decent looking girls, no men, 50 cover got two free drinks. Got a whatsapp of a skinny mulatta with giant tits, 18 yrs old. They said you could smash on premises but it looked costly- I'm still not sure what the procedure for these boates is?! Across the street Barbarella was dark- perhaps closed. What reads on the map as Cafe Sensoo America (is now The Black Cat- a gay bar. Made my way over to Marrakech, talked to a nice half japanese girl for a few minutes- nothing special in there unless you like bunda grande. Walked over to Dolce Vita, free cover- similar situation, seemed pretty empty. Mabs also looked bleak, no lookers but lots of bunda.

Struck up a conversation with Luma, an incredibly hot pardo (is that the correct term for Hispanic / msetizo). Just how I like 'them- very thin, small, incredibly beautiful face. Was asking 300, would do oral no condom, but not sex. I said I was just looking, and got the zapp- but of course once I got to my Airbnb I messaged offering 200, we settled on 250. She came up and we smashed. I was pretty worn out, so not the best performance, and she did not allow cum on face, so I just sort of went limp and gave her lip service to round it out. This girl is 100% what I like, possibly one of the prettiest girls I've done. She was down with kissing and laying on the bed with me for a long while before she went back to Dolce Vita to work some more. Her price is high but I'm sure I will call again. Apparently she's right across the street.

All in all a good start, now sure if I have the juice for an outing tonight- theoretically I will be here for 10 weeks more or so, so I feel no rush. Both my first experiences were fantastic. Seems like there's not a lot of guys around and its a buyers market. Weird how everyone wears a mask everywhere (not in clubs) - in the state I'm from people were pretty much done with all that just as I was leaving.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2561006]If you look back through the Canterbury Tales I have spun, you will find a lewd yarn from about 6 months ago referencing The General.

Alas The Admiral did not make it due to his covid tests preventing travel.

So, yesterday, being Wednesday, or my Sunday, God rested.

Have some sympathy, have some taste.[/QUOTE]Yeah well, sometimes it would be nice is you would just write in straight-forward, modern-day English LOL!

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2561085]I've been here in Copacabana a few days and things are going well. Flight was a red-eye so the day I landed I crashed in my hotel (Royal Rio Palace) and just slept 12 hours through to get caught up. Royal Rio Palace did not, for that matter, appear to be girlfriendly- but was a good crash pad. The next day I got an early check in at an airbnb on Princesa Isabela, close to Atlantico. I will be here a week.

During that first real day I had been messaging a girl, Clara, on Brazilian Cupid and switched over to whatsapp. I aske her if we could meet for coffee, and she said she didn't like coffee, only expensive dinners, to which I laughed. Shortly after the mask came down and she asked if I wanted massage / sex to which I agreed. First she asked for 250, got her down to 200. I'm sure this is considered high but it was my first day and she looked very attractive. She came over to my airbnb later that day- there was no problem with her entering and we got to business. She was a bit taller than I expected (I prefer the mignon), but a very pretty face, beautiful eyes and nice silicone tits- probably in her late 20's early 30's. The oral she gave was amazing- exactly what I like- deep throat, gagging noises, etc etc. I came twice in her mouth and never got around to intercourse- which she would've required camisinha. Very smart girl, good English, gave me the inside scoop on many things. She said she now no longer works at termas but prefers tinder, etc because she has more choice and also has a legit part time job. Very sexy girl, will see her again and propose 150 for only oral.

That night I went out really with the intention of just looking but of course couldn't help myself. Checked out Kalabria, 9 or so decent looking girls, no men, 50 cover got two free drinks. Got a whatsapp of a skinny mulatta with giant tits, 18 yrs old. They said you could smash on premises but it looked costly- I'm still not sure what the procedure for these boates is?! Across the street Barbarella was dark- perhaps closed. What reads on the map as Cafe Sensoo America (is now The Black Cat- a gay bar. Made my way over to Marrakech, talked to a nice half japanese girl for a few minutes- nothing special in there unless you like bunda grande. Walked over to Dolce Vita, free cover- similar situation, seemed pretty empty. Mabs also looked bleak, no lookers but lots of bunda.

Struck up a conversation with Luma, an incredibly hot pardo (is that the correct term for Hispanic / msetizo). Just how I like 'them- very thin, small, incredibly beautiful face. Was asking 300, would do oral no condom, but not sex. I said I was just looking, and got the zapp- but of course once I got to my Airbnb I messaged offering 200, we settled on 250. She came up and we smashed. I was pretty worn out, so not the best performance, and she did not allow cum on face, so I just sort of went limp and gave her lip service to round it out. This girl is 100% what I like, possibly one of the prettiest girls I've done. She was down with kissing and laying on the bed with me for a long while before she went back to Dolce Vita to work some more. Her price is high but I'm sure I will call again. Apparently she's right across the street.

All in all a good start, now sure if I have the juice for an outing tonight- theoretically I will be here for 10 weeks more or so, so I feel no rush. Both my first experiences were fantastic. Seems like there's not a lot of guys around and its a buyers market. Weird how everyone wears a mask everywhere (not in clubs) - in the state I'm from people were pretty much done with all that just as I was leaving.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the FR, Zebra! Sounds like you really hit the ground running. And thanks for listing out the prices, too. That really helps.

Ugh, just my luck, or maybe bad planning on my part. Looks like roundtrip flights from SAO to RIO are about $100 now. I'll probably just enjoy my time in SP then. I was trying to book 3 weeks before the departure date, but prices have gone up from $30 to $120. It was $50 this morning, too. =(I was waiting to get off work before I book the flight.

Well I'm fucking Monique pernoite 250 r.

It would be nice if you wrote about the present not 5+ years ago kkk.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2561120]Yeah well, sometimes it would be nice is you would just write in straight-forward, modern-day English LOL![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2561120]Yeah well, sometimes it would be nice is you would just write in straight-forward, modern-day English LOL![/QUOTE]I don't know. I actually enjoy the storytelling, LOL.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2561085]I've been here in Copacabana a few days and things are going well. Flight was a red-eye so the day I landed I crashed in my hotel (Royal Rio Palace) and just slept 12 hours through to get caught up. Royal Rio Palace did not, for that matter, appear to be girlfriendly- but was a good crash pad. The next day I got an early check in at an airbnb on Princesa Isabela, close to Atlantico. I will be here a week.

All in all a good start, now sure if I have the juice for an outing tonight- theoretically I will be here for 10 weeks more or so, so I feel no rush. Both my first experiences were fantastic. Seems like there's not a lot of guys around and its a buyers market. Weird how everyone wears a mask everywhere (not in clubs) - in the state I'm from people were pretty much done with all that just as I was leaving.[/QUOTE]A good start sounds about right. Thanks for your write-up and keep them coming.

Monique pernoite bareback anal looks just like Hazel in anal connisours tale from the Canterbury Tales.

That's just for my high school English teacher who reads this thread which is cross posted to the literature department at the Russian Embassy, haha.

Actually, I just did Monique a 22 year old negra who has an ass and pussy which looks just like Monique, the porn star, who John Buttman Stagliano thought was the best but was never recognized as such because she was black.

Look, for those of you at home who don't a certain person's posts, there is this ignore feature, which I use a lot.

I am paying 250 reais. I am actually here in Rio. I have a view of the Atlantic from a luxury tower hotel apartment with a big pool. It is going into winter so the weather is not great, but it is as noted by our recent actual arrival, a buyers market.

For 50 USD in a club like Hong Kong in Tijuana you would get maybe a half hour of bad service by some Mexican wench who does not have the positive attitude towards sex. On balance, though, the HK club shaving cream shows are creative, and for a buck you can finger a snatch but so what. Brazil is so much better.

And don't even get me started on the rich world strip clubs. My friends do say Montreal is nice, for North American bound folks.

Monger on. And cane, too bad they took that hazel video down from the internet. Maybe you can go back to the anal connoisseurs thread and pass around the baby wipes again.

200 Real. Or less. For an hour of anal pounding is cool. Nothing like DFK whilst legs in the air and anal missionary. The best girls reach around and hold my balls at the same time. Life is good.

How much do Tinder / SA / Facebook girls usually charge for a multiple hours date? I always negotiate, or just tell them what my budget is, but want to get a sense of going rates in Rio. In Bogota I averaged $75-$100 per date, plus food or drinks if we go out. CDMX was pricier, $125-$150 was my usual expense per date. Some of them stayed overnight, but usually 4-5 hours total is what I'm expecting.

Well gents, it's about that time. Heading to Rio and SP in early June for about 6 weeks. I was planning to go in December / January, but ended up going to Colombia instead since they didn't require a PCR test at the time. Unfortunately, I was only there for about a week this time since the mayor of Bogota put in some pretty stringent restrictions. But I digress.

I did some significant RTFF (well over a hundred pages worth), read reports of distinction, and Bubba's Guide so I don't really have any questions to bother you gentlemen with. I will provide trip reports like I usually do on my Colombia trips.

The plan: Fly into SP then connect on over to Rio. Will start out in Ipanema to get a lay of the land for a few days, then head over to Copa, and possibly Barra later on as I figure things out on ground. I will spend the mornings / afternoons relaxing, reading, and drinking beers. The late afternoons and early evenings will be dedicated to the hobby. As per VB's recs, I will probably spend some time at the pool of Transamerica as well. After 10 days or so I'll likely head over to SP and stay for as long as necessary to compare the two cities. And of course visit Scandello. Depending on how I'm feeling / which city I like best, I'll either head back to Rio or stay in SP.

The women: There's probably some interesting psychoanalysis that can be done on me as a black man with an almost exclusive preference for brancas. In Colombia I have a good time but usually (read: only) go for women with a lighter skin tone than myself, and I'm already pretty light skinned for a black man. Therefore, I will be looking for big booty brancas / light skin morenas in my adventures. I plan to hit all the spots talked about here. Termas through (centro included), prives, and online from BarraVIP, etc. I've used SA and tinder in Colombia in the past with significant success, but it doesn't sound like there's much traction for that in Rio / SP, so will likely stick to what I've read about here.

Budget: I'm planning to be pretty thrifty as far as lodging goes so that I can spend more on the extracurriculars. I've read a lot of interesting posts about top shelf brancas vs. What you can find at places like VM so I'm curious to make the comparisons for myself and report back here just for another data point. If I spend less than 500 are a day on mongering, that'll be good for me. But, if I'm ordering from BarraVIP just for the sake of convenience then I imagine I'll find myself reaching that number pretty quickly. Looking at about 7000 USD or so for roughly 40 days on ground.

Misc: Working on getting Prep here in the US and my god it is an annoying, frustrating, and expensive process. Some board members have previously recommended it and even though I don't participate in BBFS, the tight booty holes of the big butt brancas are calling my name even as I type.

While I don't have questions and am not soliciting for advice, feel free to critique my plan as necessary if it suits your fancy. If anyone wants to meet up on ground from early-June through mid-July, feel free to send a PM. Like members active in the Colombia forum who I have met up with, you may be shocked at why a young (late 20's) good looking man with great social skills like myself is not out pursuing non-pros. Don't worry, I do that too, but to quote my father. A great man of similar age to likely many of the board members here. We all pay for sex in one way or another.

And when you say things like "when I was your age, I could go all night!" we both know you're lying, old man. If you're offended by this statement and we meet up, I'll express my condolences in the form of buying you a beer.

Cheers,

Tiavoyage.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2561085]I'm still not sure what the procedure for these boates is?! Across the street Barbarella was dark- perhaps closed.[/QUOTE]Yes Barbarella is No More. Closed last year, IIRC. Procedure for these boates: get their info and meet later, or take them out. That one might be the only boate in the area with on site room.

I pay 250 r per day diaria, 3-5 pops a day.

Sometimes 400 r pernoite.

Thats 50 to 80 USD.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2561260]How much do Tinder / SA / Facebook girls usually charge for a multiple hours date? I always negotiate, or just tell them what my budget is, but want to get a sense of going rates in Rio. In Bogota I averaged $75-$100 per date, plus food or drinks if we go out. CDMX was pricier, $125-$150 was my usual expense per date. Some of them stayed overnight, but usually 4-5 hours total is what I'm expecting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2561309]Yes Barbarella is No More. Closed last year, IIRC. [/QUOTE]Wow. Only last year? Seems like that place closed like 5 years ago. You would never know because the outside is still the same as when it was open. Signs and everything still up.

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2561274]I did some significant RTFF (well over a hundred pages worth), read reports of distinction, and Bubba's Guide so I don't really have any questions to bother you gentlemen with. I will provide trip reports like I usually do on my Colombia trips.

The plan: Fly into SP then connect on over to Rio. Will start out in Ipanema to get a lay of the land for a few days, then head over to Copa, and possibly Barra later on as I figure things out on ground. I will spend the mornings / afternoons relaxing, reading, and drinking beers. The late afternoons and early evenings will be dedicated to the hobby. As per VB's recs, I will probably spend some time at the pool of Transamerica as well. After 10 days or so I'll likely head over to SP and stay for as long as necessary to compare the two cities. And of course visit Scandello. Depending on how I'm feeling / which city I like best, I'll either head back to Rio or stay in SP.

The women: There's probably some interesting psychoanalysis that can be done on me as a black man with an almost exclusive preference for brancas. In Colombia I have a good time but usually (read: only) go for women with a lighter skin tone than myself, and I'm already pretty light skinned for a black man. Therefore, I will be looking for big booty brancas / light skin morenas in my adventures. I plan to hit all the spots talked about here. Termas through (centro included), prives, and online from BarraVIP, etc. I've used SA and tinder in Colombia in the past with significant success, but it doesn't sound like there's much traction for that in Rio / SP, so will likely stick to what I've read about here..[/QUOTE]Looks like a smart plan. Thank you for RTFF, the reports of distinction and guide. I and I am sure others are glad you didn't post superfluous questions like "I'm going to Rio in a few days. Where do I find hot girls?

I have two basic comments. I'm sure you are going to take some time to do the touristy stuff. Rio is an interesting city and a few days of touring during the day are very cool. A perfect day for a Rio newbie could be Corcovado (Christ Statue), the modern cathedral, the Lapa arches and perhaps lunch up in the old Santa Teresa neighborhood. Then top it off with Termas 4 x4 at the end of the day.

As far as moving from Ipanema to Copacabana, that might be unnecessary. They are so close to each other I don't see the need. I have stayed near the Arpoador rocks. That is the bottom of the V separating Copa and Ipanema. The closer you stay to the point of the V the easier it is to just walk across to the other beach. The hip area of Ipanema Beach is close to Arpoador. Just a suggestion.

As far as going all night long when I was young, do naps count? There was a lot of bonking and short naps. Then there was the naps on the beach. Of course, the beach weather will be limited during the shorter, cooler days coming up.

I look forward to your reports.

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2561274]
Budget: I'm planning to be pretty thrifty as far as lodging goes so that I can spend more on the extracurriculars. I've read a lot of interesting posts about top shelf brancas vs. What you can find at places like VM so I'm curious to make the comparisons for myself and report back here just for another data point. If I spend less than 500 are a day on mongering, that'll be good for me. But, if I'm ordering from BarraVIP just for the sake of convenience then I imagine I'll find myself reaching that number pretty quickly. Looking at about 7000 USD or so for roughly 40 days on ground.[/QUOTE]If you're watching your budget, I wouldn't start in Ipanema. It's more expensive than Barra or Copa. I'd start in Copa since this is your first time, but you have 40 days and plan on perusing the pool at TA anyway, so why not start there and see how you like it?

Now $7 K for 40 days. Is that your total budget, including lodging and food and everything? Might be a little tight, IMHO.

And like WyattEarp suggests: do some obligatory touristy stuff. It would be a shame to spend 40 days in Rio without doing Corcovado, Sugarloaf and a Centro walk at least.

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2561274]Well gents, it's about that time. Heading to Rio and SP in early June for about 6 weeks. I was planning to go in December / January, but ended up going to Colombia instead since they didn't require a PCR test at the time. Unfortunately, I was only there for about a week this time since the mayor of Bogota put in some pretty stringent restrictions. But I digress.

I did some significant RTFF (well over a hundred pages worth), read reports of distinction, and Bubba's Guide so I don't really have any questions to bother you gentlemen with. I will provide trip reports like I usually do on my Colombia trips.

The plan: Fly into SP then connect on over to Rio. Will start out in Ipanema to get a lay of the land for a few days, then head over to Copa, and possibly Barra later on as I figure things out on ground. I will spend the mornings / afternoons relaxing, reading, and drinking beers. The late afternoons and early evenings will be dedicated to the hobby. As per VB's recs, I will probably spend some time at the pool of Transamerica as well. After 10 days or so I'll likely head over to SP and stay for as long as necessary to compare the two cities. And of course visit Scandello. Depending on how I'm feeling / which city I like best, I'll either head back to Rio or stay in SP.

The women: There's probably some interesting psychoanalysis that can be done on me as a black man with an almost exclusive preference for brancas. In Colombia I have a good time but usually (read: only) go for women with a lighter skin tone than myself, and I'm already pretty light skinned for a black man. Therefore, I will be looking for big booty brancas / light skin morenas in my adventures. I plan to hit all the spots talked about here. Termas through (centro included), prives, and online from BarraVIP, etc. I've used SA and tinder in Colombia in the past with significant success, but it doesn't sound like there's much traction for that in Rio / SP, so will likely stick to what I've read about here.

Budget: I'm planning to be pretty thrifty as far as lodging goes so that I can spend more on the extracurriculars. I've read a lot of interesting posts about top shelf brancas vs. What you can find at places like VM so I'm curious to make the comparisons for myself and report back here just for another data point. If I spend less than 500 are a day on mongering, that'll be good for me. But, if I'm ordering from BarraVIP just for the sake of convenience then I imagine I'll find myself reaching that number pretty quickly. Looking at about 7000 USD or so for roughly 40 days on ground..[/QUOTE]Nice plan, I did almost same in December / January.

Came in Brazil before they were asking for PCR bullshit but ok not big of a hussle to do it if needed.

I liked Rio much better but maybe because in SP they had lockdown for weekends.

7 k is more then enough as Brazil is cheaper then Columbia from my experience (Bogota and Cartagena).

Try to find some non pro so will keep costs well bellow 7 k but be aware that Cariocas are (com muito ciumes) very possessive and jealous.

And yeah I agree we all pay for sex in same way of form.

If you find normal girl then expect to be paying with your time, attention lifestyle.

Be aware also of big traffic jams around Barra (don't book apartment from which you can not walk to beach).

I plan to visit Brazil again somewhere between late June. August.

Have fun and write back with experiences.

After kicking around for a few days I think I've got the lay a the land. Here are a few thoughts.

Copacabana- is more grunge and chaotic than I had imagined. Don't get me wrong, the beach is amazing, but as you make your way in a couple streets you begin to see the character of the city. For hobbyists used to a clean, organized American city etc, it will disappoint. It's not immediately logical how to function on the day to day- but certainly can be done. It feels safe enough- don't be an obvious tourist and advertise yourself as a target and you should be fine. Don't accept fliers from guys walking at night on the beach area with no one else around. Don't get fall down drunk and stagger around. I felt fine walking from club to club at night and would feel silly taking a taxi from one to the other. That being said there was a major fracas at 4 am last night outside my window with drunken brawlers and broken car windows that lasted a good 25 minutes before they were chased off. Wouldn't want to walk up on that. The shady characters that are obvious are less dangerous than the shady characters that aren't.

Leblon- I like to walk so yesterday walked from Leblon to Atlantico to see la terre with my own eyes. As mentioned, Leblon is well appointed, clean, safe, expensive. Airbnb's reflect this. If you want an experience "similar" to Santa Monica or Leguna Beach, stay here.

Ipanema- I will be headed to an airbnb there next, it seems like a great mix- organized and clean enough to operate daily tasks, but not so well-heeled as Leblon. There's a nice Starbucks where I can imagine myself writing, etc. And other great facilities- gyms, outdoor cafe's etc. This stuff exists in Copa, but feels more run-down. Will not be able to take out from clubs so easy, but. Trade offs.

Leme- I only discovered this morning. I have a great airbnb on Princesa Isabela and finally walked across Atlantico to are Gustavo Sampaio and having discovered this. Charming. Street, will be doing most of my day to day here. G Sampaio is extremely pleasant, shaded, clean with everything you could want. No point in slogging around in Copa when this is right across the street! The beach on this end is amazing as well, with the Ponta do Leme, a great vantage point to see the city and surfers catch waves (some huge sets rolling in right now).

Now that I know about Leme, my feelings towards my set up have changed and its a shame I already booked two weeks elsewhere. My building is right near all the boates and great for walking garotas back for take out from Mabs, Kalabria, Marrakech, Dolce Vita. And since I am so close to Leme, I can use this superior area for my day to day. My building is very girlfriendly and has many more studios available for budget minded hobbyists who still would like something that is comfortable. PM me and I will give you my rental agents info.

Last night I took a night off but the night before I met with Luma again. It was less fun and she was less hot the second time around as sometimes happens. I just can't get off with this one because she does not allow leite na boca or na cara. She says she is a "negra" which is confusing because she looks like a mix to me. To be honest guys most of these girls looked mixed in some form and how the classification workis aside from the obvious branca and negra is still a mystery. Tonight I will head to Monte Carlo and / or Solarium. Steering clear of Centaurus for the moment because I don't like the idea of paying up front if I'm going to dip out due to poor selection, etc.

The weather is beautiful, the cariocas are beautiful- its worth the trip alone just to watch the waves from the Ponta do Leme. All hobbyists should get down here while the getting is good and the real is strong!

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2561184]Thanks for the FR, Zebra! Sounds like you really hit the ground running. And thanks for listing out the prices, too. That really helps.

Ugh, just my luck, or maybe bad planning on my part. Looks like roundtrip flights from SAO to RIO are about $100 now. I'll probably just enjoy my time in SP then. I was trying to book 3 weeks before the departure date, but prices have gone up from $30 to $120. It was $50 this morning, too. =(I was waiting to get off work before I book the flight.[/QUOTE]No clue on your days, but I see plenty of availability between SP and RJ for under $50 RT and even cheaper as two one ways for the next 2 to 4 weeks.

I plan to go between SP and RJ for a trip in August and I definitely plan to book 2 one ways, as it's 1) usually cheaper 2) more flexible as I don't need to stick with one airline for both flights. And I can just pick the most convenient departure / arrival times.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2561567]...After kicking around for a few days I think I've got the lay a the land. Here are a few thoughts...[/QUOTE]Excellent report! Thanks for taking the time and writing all of these.

7000 usd.

That's 37500 brl.

So you should get a room at Transamerica for 3000 a month (call reception, ask for owners, or show up in person with cash).

Learn the schedule of the free luxury bus from Transamerica to centro / av presidente Wilson 147.

Do the centro termas to warm up so you don't get all crazy and blow stupid money on termas for 3 days. Budget 280 reais a day for 3 prive girls see johnny walker's previous posts and reply's from senor Sperto.

Also go to vm at 14 h, pick the best girls, and fuck them at a real hotel, hotel novo canario, see my previous post on this.

Start getting the best VM and prive girls over to your room at Transamerica.

Pay maximum 400 reais, but offer 250 reais pernoite plus eats etc.

Meanwhile, you will be at the pool at Transamerica with your dslr and tell the girls you support ganja, some will fuck you for free.

Now that you are warmed up after 3 days of prive pussy, which is the best bang for the buck in the market (see [URL]gparena.net[/URL] for current intel).

Start by doing girls at perola negra, which is posto 1 in barra, Transamerica being posto 6. Cover is 30, not the 140 at solarium, which is stupid.

Paris cafe also cover 30 reais.

You are now a carioca.

So your run rate is 100 lodging and 300 pussy a day plus food. 40 x500 is about half of 37000. Keep the rest in the bank, and stay for 75 days next time.

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2561274]Well gents, it's about that time. Heading to Rio and SP in early June for about 6 weeks. I was planning to go in December / January, but ended up going to Colombia instead since they didn't require a PCR test at the time. Unfortunately, I was only there for about a week this time since the mayor of Bogota put in some pretty stringent restrictions. But I digress.

I did some significant RTFF (well over a hundred pages worth), read reports of distinction, and Bubba's Guide so I don't really have any questions to bother you gentlemen with. I will provide trip reports like I usually do on my Colombia trips.

The plan: Fly into SP then connect on over to Rio. Will start out in Ipanema to get a lay of the land for a few days, then head over to Copa, and possibly Barra later on as I figure things out on ground. I will spend the mornings / afternoons relaxing, reading, and drinking beers. The late afternoons and early evenings will be dedicated to the hobby. As per VB's recs, I will probably spend some time at the pool of Transamerica as well. After 10 days or so I'll likely head over to SP and stay for as long as necessary to compare the two cities. And of course visit Scandello. Depending on how I'm feeling / which city I like best, I'll either head back to Rio or stay in SP..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2561425]If you're watching your budget, I wouldn't start in Ipanema. It's more expensive than Barra or Copa. I'd start in Copa since this is your first time, but you have 40 days and plan on perusing the pool at TA anyway, so why not start there and see how you like it?

Now $7 K for 40 days. Is that your total budget, including lodging and food and everything? Might be a little tight, IMHO.

And like WyattEarp suggests: do some obligatory touristy stuff. It would be a shame to spend 40 days in Rio without doing Corcovado, Sugarloaf and a Centro walk at least.[/QUOTE]TiaVoyage is young and says he has game. If he does an overnight with a cool chick, she might be willing to show him the sights for no extra fee. Sometimes these girls just want to be treated nice. That might set up the expectation on her part of another night, but you just see how things flow.

And yes, excellent point about staying in Copa will free up more money for garotas.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2561615]Also go to vm at 14 h, pick the best girls, and fuck them at a real hotel, hotel novo canario, see my previous post on this.

Start getting the best VM and prive girls over to your room at Transamerica.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about Vila Mimosa. TiaVoyage might be sticking to a branca diet.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2561588]No clue on your days, but I see plenty of availability between SP and RJ for under $50 RT and even cheaper as two one ways for the next 2 to 4 weeks.

I plan to go between SP and RJ for a trip in August and I definitely plan to book 2 one ways, as it's 1) usually cheaper 2) more flexible as I don't need to stick with one airline for both flights. And I can just pick the most convenient departure / arrival times.[/QUOTE]If $50 is that significant to you, then you obviously should just stay at home. Don't believe that this is even being discussed. No problem with wanting to save money and have recommended discount motel sites and other discount programs but, seriously. You are worried about a few dollars when it comes to getting from one major destination to another.

I left NY Thursday afternoon with my updated verifly ap, entered my test results PCR, and other pertinent information, the airline website recognized it and then let me check in, when I got to the airport they wanted to see all the hard copies, I said what's the point of the ap then? I took 2 pcr tests one on Monday and another Tuesday, the one from Monday I received Wednesday morning but it had no timestamp on it so the ap said it was past the 72 hour window because it used 8 am as default which pushed me out. The one from Tuesday also came back Wednesday and the ap accepted this one. I arrived in Miami 4 pm my flight to Rio was at 11 pm. I took a taxi to south beach sat at a hotel pool had lunch then walked Collins Avenue and got propositioned 2 times but I moved on. In Miami airport they told me they would have to check my docs again and I could do it in the lounge, I said this is getting crazy but they never did, then smooth flight and arrived early.

I was exhausted when I arrived Friday but at 4 pm went to see what's up at eden spa, they presented 3 girls all very nice, three different shades tall and slender but I wanted to check out copaterapias first so I went up to the 5th floor from the 4th and asked for a nuru massage which is 1 hour of massage where the girl rubs you down with oil naked and she is naked and massages you with her whole body, it was very nice, the room had a zen atmosphere with nice music then she gives you a happy ending, was all good and relaxing.

I went back to my room and chilled still tired and thinking I was going to call it a day, fell asleep and woke up at 1 am, looked out my balcony and can see the girls going in and out of Dolce vita and my juices started to wake up, took a shower and went down stairs, many girls were available, I could have my pick, I found a tall girl falsa magra in her 2 o's, 400 reais, we spent an hour on my balcony completely naked LOL then moved inside for the finale, good time had by all.

[URL]http://copaterapias.com.br/services/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br/[/URL]

There are brancas in vm and mosaico.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2561626]I'm not sure about Vila Mimosa. TiaVoyage might be sticking to a branca diet.[/QUOTE]

Well, due to the pandemic, I have not been to Rio for a while. I have heard from a few Carioca friends that many stores and businesses have closed their doors for good, in various neighborhoods within the city of are. De Jan. Particularly, No Centro. I have only heard of these changes, but I will see first hand once I arrive in a couple of weeks. I have spent much time having fun, and working a bit in that area over the years. Hopefully, I will not be a depressing sight.

I ran across a few different articles about the possible plans for No Centro in the future (For example, converting currently standing commercial buildings into resident apartments). So I am just sharing, for those who find it interesting. Sorry that it is in Portuguese. For those who can't read the language, just use google translator.

[URL]https://diariodorio.com/prefeitura-prepara-projeto-para-reviver-o-centro-do-rio-e-impulsos-para-converter-imoveis-comerciais-em-residenciais/amp/[/URL]

[URL]https://prefeitura.rio/cidade/prefeitura-lanca-reviver-centro-plano-para-atrair-novos-moradores-e-estimular-a-recuperacao-urbanistica-social-e-economica-da-regiao/[/URL]

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2021/01/28/plano-de-revitalizacao-do-centro-do-rio-deve-ser-votado-na-camara-de-vereadores-no-mes-que-vem.ghtml[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mangera;2561675]I ran across a few different articles about the possible plans for No Centro in the future (For example, converting currently standing commercial buildings into resident apartments). So I am just sharing, for those who find it interesting.[/QUOTE]Very interesting. Sounds good.
Made me think of São Luíz and their Projeto Reviver. Lots of wonderful old buildings in Centro Historico, being reformed.

A couple of years ago in Moscow I remember the experience of discovering most beautiful girl I have ever seen walk by on the street only to have to take those words back as the actual most beautiful girl I have ever seen appeared minutes later. Rinse, repeat. A similar thing keeps happening here in Rio, but replace "seen" with "smash". Worth noting as well is the number of afore-mentioned stunners who will both deepthroat and allow cum in mouth. Maybe its my charm, maybe its the money? Who knows. So far Brazil wins in that category if not is the BBFS column which goes to Philippines.

Anyways, a brief description and call for advice. Monte Carlo, my first terma experience went much as expected. Check in, grab a locker, take a shower, ascend to the boate. Immediately I chose India, another mignon who could best be described as looking Italian- not sure if that's branca, mulatta or what? Hotter by far than the two previous girl I'd done this week, perfect skin, gorgeous face, amazing tight body- thin and mignon with small pert tits just the way I like it. Soon in started kissing with her grabbing the the. We ascended to the cabine.

Should be noted before the action she asked for me to go down to level 1 to get my phone for translation- I had not brought because as it was my first time I was not sure if allowed. ISG posters can correct me if I'm wrong but looks like punters can bring phone if not taking photos- but girls can't. A big improvement again over Thailand where the ladies have a real problem with that.

Session was great- repeatedly amazed that women this hot will full on throat my cock to the verge of puking- actually puking stomach bile- and then keep going and going like a real trooper. Rare to come across that in SEA. Required condom for intercourse but my main fetish is oral, so ended up coming na boca in an amazing finish. Real nice convo and tradutor session after that created a genuine rapport and contact for future visits.

To emphasize, these girls-even the stunners-are dirty and work to please you- at least in the current environment. Just like other visits, I was outnumbered by the women at least 10 to 1. Not sure if it can get better than that. SW, and the average Carioca for that matter, are hungry for your USD and EU, so get the freak down and give it to them.

However- the bill was a bit more than expected at least compared to Bubbas guide and other sources, it's hard to even disclose because I know posters here put a premium on value and I don't want to be the piker that ruins the game- but it was a bit of a surprise. I'm happy to pay, and tip out the staff- this is honestly 1/10 of what Vegas would be and actually cheaper than Bangkok, if not Pattaya. I've been saving for over a year for this very purpose. But, if anyone has any advice how to keep the terma bill down, please let me know. I had 3 beers total, bought her one, and an hour long session in a standard room. It came to roughly $140 USD. I was expecting something more like $80-100. Not speaking Porto- can't really haggle that well nor do I really want to. So what explains the price?

Anyways- India of course wants me to come back Monday, which I'm sure I will. My thought again, how do I control the price here while still having a good time? Clara coming over mid-day again tomorrow for another deepthroat session- my favorite. I'm going to slowly bring her down as far as the amount and depravity my fetishes to see just how far we can get in the net 10 weeks.

What a great scene- better in some ways than SEA so far. Not as easy, but charming and rewarding in other ways. Pattaya as a beach sucks balls my dudes- this beach is world class. The girls here are hot and Ready gents, get your butts down.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2561630]If $50 is that significant to you, then you obviously should just stay at home. Don't believe that this is even being discussed. No problem with wanting to save money and have recommended discount motel sites and other discount programs but, seriously. You are worried about a few dollars when it comes to getting from one major destination to another.[/QUOTE]I think you either quoted the wrong person or misunderstood what I said. I was simply replying to someome else and stating that there are 1) lots of cheap flights between SP and RJ over the next 2-3 weeks and that 2) I would prefer to buy two one way tickets (even if it means different airlines) rather than round trip as it gives you more options / flexibility to take the flight that fits your schedule.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2561724]

However- the bill was a bit more than expected at least compared to Bubbas guide and other sources, it's hard to even disclose because I know posters here put a premium on value and I don't want to be the piker that ruins the game- but it was a bit of a surprise. I'm happy to pay, and tip out the staff- this is honestly 1/10 of what Vegas would be and actually cheaper than Bangkok, if not Pattaya. I've been saving for over a year for this very purpose. But, if anyone has any advice how to keep the terma bill down, please let me know. I had 3 beers total, bought her one, and an hour long session in a standard room. It came to roughly $140 USD. I was expecting something more like $80-100. Not speaking Porto- can't really haggle that well nor do I really want to. So what explains the price?

Anyways- India of course wants me to come back Monday, which I'm sure I will. My thought again, how do I control the price here while still having a good time? [/QUOTE]The price sounds about right to me. IIRC, one hour plus entrada goes for $R600+. Plus 4 beers. They didn't rip you off. For future visits, there is a price menu right on the reception, or at least it used to be. Check it out next time and post here.

For price control -- did you try to get India meet you outside?

In any case, if you like termas but want a cheaper experience, try 4 x 4. Much cheaper but same high quality, and they wave entrada if you take the girl in until 6, I guess?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2561679]Very interesting. Sounds good.
Made me think of So Luz and their Projeto Reviver. Lots of wonderful old buildings in Centro Historico, being reformed.[/QUOTE]The Centro of Sao Luis feels like a medieval city. Pretty decayed medieval city, but still interesting.

You've discovered what most new visitors to Brasil have -- ie. Brasilians are the best performers in the World and it's not even close. FWIW most of us have "overspent" in Termas. The price is fixed so there's not much you can do about it. And Monte Carlo is in the tourist zone so it's going to be more expensive than the Centro Termas. If you want to lower your cost, get the girl's number and her her meet you when she's not working. You can likely pay significantly less and also have less time constraints. Termas are a fantastic experience, but they are generally not real price-effective.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2561724]A couple of years ago in Moscow I remember the experience of discovering most beautiful girl I have ever seen walk by on the street only to have to take those words back as the actual most beautiful girl I have ever seen appeared minutes later. Rinse, repeat. A similar thing keeps happening here in Rio, but replace "seen" with "smash". Worth noting as well is the number of afore-mentioned stunners who will both deepthroat and allow cum in mouth. Maybe its my charm, maybe its the money? Who knows. So far Brazil wins in that category if not is the BBFS column which goes to Philippines.

Anyways, a brief description and call for advice. Monte Carlo, my first terma experience went much as expected. Check in, grab a locker, take a shower, ascend to the boate. Immediately I chose India, another mignon who could best be described as looking Italian- not sure if that's branca, mulatta or what? Hotter by far than the two previous girl I'd done this week, perfect skin, gorgeous face, amazing tight body- thin and mignon with small pert tits just the way I like it. Soon in started kissing with her grabbing the the. We ascended to the cabine.

Should be noted before the action she asked for me to go down to level 1 to get my phone for translation- I had not brought because as it was my first time I was not sure if allowed. ISG posters can correct me if I'm wrong but looks like punters can bring phone if not taking photos- but girls can't. A big improvement again over Thailand where the ladies have a real problem with that.

Session was great- repeatedly amazed that women this hot will full on throat my cock to the verge of puking- actually puking stomach bile- and then keep going and going like a real trooper. Rare to come across that in SEA. Required condom for intercourse but my main fetish is oral, so ended up coming na boca in an amazing finish. Real nice convo and tradutor session after that created a genuine rapport and contact for future visits.

To emphasize, these girls-even the stunners-are dirty and work to please you- at least in the current environment. Just like other visits, I was outnumbered by the women at least 10 to 1. Not sure if it can get better than that. SW, and the average Carioca for that matter, are hungry for your USD and EU, so get the freak down and give it to them.

However- the bill was a bit more than expected at least compared to Bubbas guide and other sources, it's hard to even disclose because I know posters here put a premium on value and I don't want to be the piker that ruins the game- but it was a bit of a surprise. I'm happy to pay, and tip out the staff- this is honestly 1/10 of what Vegas would be and actually cheaper than Bangkok, if not Pattaya. I've been saving for over a year for this very purpose. But, if anyone has any advice how to keep the terma bill down, please let me know. I had 3 beers total, bought her one, and an hour long session in a standard room. It came to roughly $140 USD. I was expecting something more like $80-100. Not speaking Porto- can't really haggle that well nor do I really want to. So what explains the price?

Anyways- India of course wants me to come back Monday, which I'm sure I will. My thought again, how do I control the price here while still having a good time? Clara coming over mid-day again tomorrow for another deepthroat session- my favorite. I'm going to slowly bring her down as far as the amount and depravity my fetishes to see just how far we can get in the net 10 weeks.

What a great scene- better in some ways than SEA so far. Not as easy, but charming and rewarding in other ways. Pattaya as a beach sucks balls my dudes- this beach is world class. The girls here are hot and Ready gents, get your butts down.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2561588]No clue on your days, but I see plenty of availability between SP and RJ for under $50 RT and even cheaper as two one ways for the next 2 to 4 weeks. [/QUOTE]I was finally able to book a flight today for $40 RT. For the last few days, it was showing up as $120. A few frustrating parts in booking the flight via GOL: 1. It asks for my birthday, but I can't tell if I needed to put DD/MM/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY. I put it as the latter. I'll have to call the airline on Monday to confirm. 2. When putting in my billing address, it lists all the states except CA! wth? 3. Phone number seems to be in Brazil format. I put my US number in there, and it didn't error out on me.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2561630]If $50 is that significant to you, then you obviously should just stay at home. Don't believe that this is even being discussed. No problem with wanting to save money and have recommended discount motel sites and other discount programs but, seriously. You are worried about a few dollars when it comes to getting from one major destination to another.[/QUOTE]It really isn't. I could've paid $100 without much burden to my wallet, and that's how much a found RT flight in a cheap / close destination usually is. But I don't like the thought of paying $100 more than I should've. So I would've preferred to just stay in SP if that was the case. The airfares are now back to normal. All is well. I won't tell you how to spend your money.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2561726]I think you either quoted the wrong person or misunderstood what I said. I was simply replying to someome else and stating that there are 1) lots of cheap flights between SP and RJ over the next 2-3 weeks and that 2) I would prefer to buy two one way tickets (even if it means different airlines) rather than round trip as it gives you more options / flexibility to take the flight that fits your schedule.[/QUOTE]I had a similar plan. To book my flight closer to my travel date. Almost got screwed as prices more than doubled the last few days. For some reason, prices came down again today. I'm only on a short 2 week trip, so I don't need that much flexibility. Hope you have safe travels and LOTS of sex! I'm eager to read your reports!

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2561724] My thought again, how do I control the price here while still having a good time?.[/QUOTE]Zebra,

Nice report. Don't worry too much about the spending part. When people complain, it's about what people are overpaying freelancers, not the termas. In termas, the price is the price and there is nothing to do except to do less. I like the termas too. Keep having fun and doing what you are doing!

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2561795]A few frustrating parts in booking the flight via GOL: 1. It asks for my birthday, but I can't tell if I needed to put DD/MM/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY. I put it as the latter. I'll have to call the airline on Monday to confirm. 2. When putting in my billing address, it lists all the states except CA! wth? 3. Phone number seems to be in Brazil format. I put my US number in there, and it didn't error out on me.
[/QUOTE]Those websites are not foreinger friendly. A few weeks ago I was either buying a ticket or checking in for a flight. It kept asking for my CPF (tax ID number). After trying all that I could (making up numbers and shit) I finally just asked my girlfriend for her CPF to plug in and it worked. I had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back. It you are putzing around Brazil for any length of time then you are going to want to have a CPF to make your life much easier.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2561724]A couple of years ago in Moscow I remember the experience of discovering most beautiful girl I have ever seen walk by on the street only to have to take those words back as the actual most beautiful girl I have ever seen appeared minutes later. Rinse, repeat. A similar thing keeps happening here in Rio, but replace "seen" with "smash". Worth noting as well is the number of afore-mentioned stunners who will both deepthroat and allow cum in mouth. Maybe its my charm, maybe its the money? Who knows. So far Brazil wins in that category if not is the BBFS column which goes to Philippines.

Anyways, a brief description and call for advice. Monte Carlo, my first terma experience went much as expected. Check in, grab a locker, take a shower, ascend to the boate. Immediately I chose India, another mignon who could best be described as looking Italian- not sure if that's branca, mulatta or what? Hotter by far than the two previous girl I'd done this week, perfect skin, gorgeous face, amazing tight body- thin and mignon with small pert tits just the way I like it. Soon in started kissing with her grabbing the the. We ascended to the cabine.

Should be noted before the action she asked for me to go down to level 1 to get my phone for translation- I had not brought because as it was my first time I was not sure if allowed. ISG posters can correct me if I'm wrong but looks like punters can bring phone if not taking photos- but girls can't. A big improvement again over Thailand where the ladies have a real problem with that.

Session was great- repeatedly amazed that women this hot will full on throat my cock to the verge of puking- actually puking stomach bile- and then keep going and going like a real trooper. Rare to come across that in SEA. Required condom for intercourse but my main fetish is oral, so ended up coming na boca in an amazing finish. Real nice convo and tradutor session after that created a genuine rapport and contact for future visits..[/QUOTE]Monte Carlo used to have a frequent fucker club where you'd get a free entrance every time you spent $500 which was pretty much every time. I think I remember it being raised to $700 but that's been years ago. Could be higher now or completely done away with. The manager there is Ivan. He speaks English and is cool. Introduce yourself and get cool, he'll probably let you in free here and there. Definitely better to get numbers and have girls come to you before their shift. If you pay for their Uber to ZS they'll definitely come.

Is there a downside to getting a cpf?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561930]Those websites are not foreinger friendly. A few weeks ago I was either buying a ticket or checking in for a flight. It kept asking for my CPF (tax ID number). After trying all that I could (making up numbers and shit) I finally just asked my girlfriend for her CPF to plug in and it worked. I had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back. It you are putzing around Brazil for any length of time then you are going to want to have a CPF to make your life much easier.[/QUOTE]

All the fees (entrance, room, drinks, etc.) add up and you end up paying like 700+ reais, and for that price get to spend only 40 minutes - 1 HR with a girl in a tiny room. From all the reports that I have read it seems like 300-400 reals pernoite is the norm for an outside date and you get to fuck multiple times in the comfort of your hotel or airbnb. And if you pay more than that you are an idiot and you fuck up the market. So, whom do termas cater to? Weekend millionaires? First timers with zero portuguese? Is it the quality of WG that make termas worth visiting and spending that much?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561930] ...had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back...[/QUOTE]Huh! Now that's just annoying. I too was under the impression, that a CPF number was like a lifetime permanent type of tax ID, much like a social insurance number. What a pain in the ass, to have to redo this application.

Oh well, love it, or leave it...Brazilian bureaucracy.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2561953]Is there a downside to getting a cpf?[/QUOTE] If you happen to be making large $$ (dollar) purchase items. Sometimes I have been asked when getting a new SIM card/number.

[url]https://wise.com/gb/blog/cpf-cnpj-meaning-brazil[/url]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2561953]Is there a downside to getting a cpf?[/QUOTE]No, none at all.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2561966]Huh! Now that's just annoying. I too was under the impression, that a CPF number was like a lifetime permanent type of tax ID...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2561953]Is there a downside to getting a cpf?[/QUOTE]Perhaps, just the unfortunate pain of having to redo the application, every so often, if not used often enough.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2561960]All the fees (entrance, room, drinks, etc.) add up and you end up paying like 700+ reais, and for that price get to spend only 40 minutes - 1 HR with a girl in a tiny room. From all the reports that I have read it seems like 300-400 reals pernoite is the norm for an outside date and you get to fuck multiple times in the comfort of your hotel or airbnb. And if you pay more than that you are an idiot and you fuck up the market. So, whom do termas cater to? Weekend millionaires? First timers with zero portuguese? Is it the quality of WG that make termas worth visiting and spending that much?[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.

I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.

But, even if you ignore VM and instead do club 116 and T31, in addition to the prives in central, and Perola Negra and Paris, that is more than enough source for 40 days.

That is the optimal selection.

Yes 4 x 4 too since it only has 50 reais cover.

Ignore the termas with covers over 100 (solarium, MC, centaurus).

Stay in barra not copacabana.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2561655]There are brancas in vm and mosaico.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2561966]Huh! Now that's just annoying. I too was under the impression, that a CPF number was like a lifetime permanent type of tax ID, much like a social insurance number. What a pain in the ass, to have to redo this application.

Oh well, love it, or leave it...Brazilian bureaucracy.

If you happen to be making large $$ (dollar) purchase items. Sometimes I have been asked when getting a new SIM card/number.

[url]https://wise.com/gb/blog/cpf-cnpj-meaning-brazil[/url][/QUOTE]They even ask for it when you make purchases at department stores. Me and my girlfriend bought some new sheets the other week ago and they always ask at that store. The sheets did not fit so we took them back. They do not give refunds, but put the credit in the computer under her CPF. Back in the day we used to need CPF to get the utilities in our names when we rented apartments long term in Rio.

On Saturday early evening I tried to get a girl from barra vip to come over, 2 flaked out on me kept texting back they were going to be late so I canceled. I was getting hungry so I walked over to MAbs to get something to eat and I was texting another barra girl to come over but they all act like they don't need the money, business must be good for these girls and also some are young and beautiful.

So while I was sitting in Mabs planning my next move a woman comes over to me that I met in an Internet cafe many years ago to say Hello,. She said I'm sitting over there with a friend I think you'll like her. I went over and sat with them, not really my type but she seemed fun so I stayed a while. She asked me what my plans were for the night, I had none really but a girl I met last night told me of a new swing club in Barra called Achar. The girl said to me it's a good place and she loves it. I said yeah you want to go? She said yes but I said I didn't want to travel so far let's go to 2 A2 instead. So we went to my place and changed, she put on a dress and I put on pick pocket proof pants.

I didn't really expect much from 2 A2 considering these times, I thought maybe I'll just bang my girl and watch others. But my girl was perfect for this place, her personality plus big bunda and breasts many guys were reaching over to touch her and as soon as they do that gives me permission to touch theirs. I had my fingers in many hot wet bucettas, ate some delicious ones too plus we switched with 3 couples, it was a really good night.

On the way back I'm staying near Dolce Vita and I learned in 2 A2 that my girl likes bucetta too, many girls in the club were after her too. So I said let's go into dolce vita and get a girl for us, she said yes and she'll pick her out. We found this lovely 21 year old with small breasts and big luscious nipples. We all jumped into the bed together and I had both to myself. Good thing those Barra girls flaked on me otherwise I would have missed this great night.

[QUOTE=Combo;2561997]Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.

I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.[/QUOTE]People are always coming up with false, narrow, either or choices. Bunk that! Do it all! I want it all! And I will have it too!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2561960]All the fees (entrance, room, drinks, etc.) add up and you end up paying like 700+ reais, and for that price get to spend only 40 minutes - 1 HR with a girl in a tiny room. From all the reports that I have read it seems like 300-400 reals pernoite is the norm for an outside date and you get to fuck multiple times in the comfort of your hotel or airbnb. And if you pay more than that you are an idiot and you fuck up the market. So, whom do termas cater to? Weekend millionaires? First timers with zero portuguese? Is it the quality of WG that make termas worth visiting and spending that much?[/QUOTE]I wonder how many mongers will actually get that kind of price.

Apart from Mr. Vagabundo of course. ,kudos to him though.

I was in Brazil for 1 month and lowest I got was 800 reias.

It is still less then 200 $ which is great value on world wide scale.

Maybe if you are there longer and speak Portuguese can have those prices of 300/400 but otherwise don't think so.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2561960]All the fees (entrance, room, drinks, etc.) add up and you end up paying like 700+ reais, and for that price get to spend only 40 minutes - 1 HR with a girl in a tiny room. From all the reports that I have read it seems like 300-400 reals pernoite is the norm for an outside date and you get to fuck multiple times in the comfort of your hotel or airbnb. And if you pay more than that you are an idiot and you fuck up the market. So, whom do termas cater to? Weekend millionaires? First timers with zero portuguese? Is it the quality of WG that make termas worth visiting and spending that much?[/QUOTE]Most of the customers in Termas are Brazilians, many rarely take a girl to the room. It's a very fun atmosphere to drink and party.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2561966]Huh! Now that's just annoying. I too was under the impression, that a CPF number was like a lifetime permanent type of tax ID, much like a social insurance number. What a pain in the ass, to have to redo this application.

Oh well, love it, or leave it...Brazilian bureaucracy.

If you happen to be making large $$ (dollar) purchase items. Sometimes I have been asked when getting a new SIM card/number.

[url]https://wise.com/gb/blog/cpf-cnpj-meaning-brazil[/url][/QUOTE]Once upon a time CPF numbers for foreigners did expire if not renewed but I'm almost certain that is no longer the case. I've had my CPF since 2007, I just checked the website and it's still active even though I haven't used it for a number of years now.

[QUOTE=Combo;2561997]Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.

I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.[/QUOTE]Absolutely! That what makes the termas great..."the groping", IMHO.

Brasileira [b]"gropability"[/b] (if that even is a word) in a terma (or boate for that matter), is for me, one of the top crucial indicators for taking a garota, pre-room romp.

The highly anticipated "groping factor", touching and teasing with a Brasileira, is a very high selling point, pre-room romp.

Monte Carlo, was my very first terma (back-in-the-day) and was my first time in Rio (but I did read WSG at the time). I hadn't paid yet to enter and it was suggested by the manager, that I make myself comfortable and take a tour of the facilities. Naturally he provided a super sexy curvy Brasileira, who showed up in a one piece thong bikini. My best personalized tour ever. My hand were all over her nice bubble butt booty.

I just couldn't help myself, during those sexy walks up and down the Monte Carlo stairs and elevator. Her rear end in that thong bikini, with my hands firmly planted on that ass, going up those narrow stairs, well forever be an indelible moment. Although, admittedly it isn't as ubiquitous and prevalent as bygone years.

Again, for the most part groping has always be excellent in termas and boates. At times it is the only thing I, myself, other noted BMs (that have posted about it) and Brazilian dudes, go for and don't always session. That and the collection of phone numbers.

Brazil, probably has the best girls for groping, on the planet, pre-room romp. Okay, Okay. I just recently read Russia (and Germany), may have (or had) a very good groping scene at a few clubs, but I'll let others chime-in on that.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2562038]Once upon a time CPF numbers for foreigners did expire if not renewed but I'm almost certain that is no longer the case. I've had my CPF since 2007, I just checked the website and it's still active even though I haven't used it for a number of years now.[/QUOTE]Thanks, good to know. I hope that's the case. I haven't used mine since 2018/17.

[QUOTE=Combo;2561997]Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.

I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.[/QUOTE]Why not go to a strip club then? Lots of naked girls around to test out. The difference is that you don't have to pay a heavy entrance fee to get in to check out the lineup. Sometimes there is no fee at all.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2562016]...I didn't really expect much from 2 A2 considering these times, I thought maybe I'll just bang my girl and watch others. But my girl was perfect for this place, her personality plus big bunda and breasts many guys were reaching over to touch her and as soon as they do that gives me permission to touch theirs. I had my fingers in many hot wet bucettas, ate some delicious ones too plus we switched with 3 couples, it was a really good night.

On the way back I'm staying near Dolce Vita and I learned in 2 A2 that my girl likes bucetta too, many girls in the club were after her too. So I said let's go into dolce vita and get a girl for us, she said yes and she'll pick her out. We found this lovely 21 year old with small breasts and big luscious nipples. We all jumped into the bed together and I had both to myself. Good thing those Barra girls flaked on me otherwise I would have missed this great night.[/QUOTE]Nice adventure! Nice sessions! Thanks for sharing another one of your hot swinging serendipitous moments, we've all come to enjoy your reports on.

I will also say, contrary to my previous criticisms, that there are some top, top shelf girls who you can't get to bang you outside a terma, and who are really top top shelf.

You have to bang them there, and it may even be worth it. I'm thinking of one hot little 18 year old at 4 x 4 now.

That said, there is so much ass here in Rio that my list is always overflowing.

My "pro forma" days are 3 girls a day at prives, but that alone yields like 4-5 new girls to get over for pernoite each week or two.

And then there are the pro's like the girls at Transamerica, and the porn girls. My latest is one Natasha Rios. OMFG. Sorry to reduce myself to stupid gen z cell phone language, but Oh My Fucking God.

Natasha Rios. Just got her digits through some girls here.

[QUOTE=Combo;2561997]Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.

I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.[/QUOTE]

Is there anything like the German "parties" ie entrance fee and unlimited sex and public orgies? I know Thailand and Germany and FKK's well and a few sex parties in London, Netherlands and Germany and an orgy in Switzerland sponsored by some obscenely rich middle eastern types who liked watching. Very happy to oblige. If not, any public orgy or private threesome will work. My biggest concern is post 12+ month is USA sex prison my mind will explode in BR with so many beautiful women willing to swallow and who think anal is routine. I worry I could become addicted.

Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561930]I had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back.[/QUOTE]Are you sure your CPF expired? I think they are valid for always.

You can do a check here:

[URL]https://servicos.receita.fazenda.gov.br/Servicos/CPF/ConsultaSituacao/ConsultaPublica.asp[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561930]Those websites are not foreinger friendly. A few weeks ago I was either buying a ticket or checking in for a flight. It kept asking for my CPF (tax ID number). After trying all that I could (making up numbers and shit) I finally just asked my girlfriend for her CPF to plug in and it worked. I had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back. It you are putzing around Brazil for any length of time then you are going to want to have a CPF to make your life much easier.[/QUOTE]A number of year ago I went to the Varig office in Manhattan to purchase a ticket from Rio to Curitiba, they wanted 300 damn dollars for a one way ticket. When I told him that I was only paying $375 bucks for my round trip ticket from NYC to Rio, the guy just shrugged his shoulders. I called up my girlfriend in Curitiba and she was able to book a ticket for the same day, same time and same flight from Rio to Curitiba for only 80 bucks!! I was pissed!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2561999]Stay in barra not copacabana.[/QUOTE]It looks like most of the action is near Copacabana. Why do you recommend staying at Barra (the Tijuca?) instead? Looking to book my Rio hotel soon.

I recommend you stay in Copa.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2562189]It looks like most of the action is near Copacabana. Why do you recommend staying at Barra (the Tijuca?) instead? Looking to book my Rio hotel soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2562189]It looks like most of the action is near Copacabana. Why do you recommend staying at Barra (the Tijuca?) instead? Looking to book my Rio hotel soon.[/QUOTE]Most of the night action is in copacabana. From what I can gather mr vagabundo advocates barra and his hotel because many of the escorts on the Barra Vip website live there. The other day not today I counted just how many of the girls actually live in Barra and that was about half with the rest in zona sul including copacabana. So 38 girls lived in Barra, I can't imagine they all lived in the transamerica but lets say at least 25 do. Now in copacabana there are thousands. Now mr vagabundo has posted he fucked several of them but doesn't sound like 25. He gets most of his negras from privis in centro. So let's say you do meet a few of these beauties at the pool, are they going to give you a discount? Who knows? And what will you do at night? Anywhere you go you'll have to get a taxi, in copacabana you just walk out your door and everything is around you, youre there. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2562189]It looks like most of the action is near Copacabana. Why do you recommend staying at Barra (the Tijuca?) instead? Looking to book my Rio hotel soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RioBob;2562197]Most of the night action is in copacabana. From what I can gather mr vagabundo advocates barra and his hotel because many of the escorts on the Barra Vip website live there. The other day not today I counted just how many of the girls actually live in Barra and that was about half with the rest in zona sul including copacabana. So 38 girls lived in Barra, I can't imagine they all lived in the transamerica but lets say at least 25 do. Now in copacabana there are thousands. Now mr vagabundo has posted he fucked several of them but doesn't sound like 25. He gets most of his negras from privis in centro. So let's say you do meet a few of these beauties at the pool, are they going to give you a discount? Who knows? And what will you do at night? Anywhere you go you'll have to get a taxi, in copacabana you just walk out your door and everything is around you, youre there. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]There's more than one reason to stay in Barra. The lodging is cheaper, less hectic, the water is cleaner, and there're still enough GDPs to keep you busy. On the other hand, like Rio Bob said, in Copa, you just walk out of the building and everything is right there (except Centro termas). For convenience Copa can't be beat. Keep in mind that Vagabundo is practically living in Rio. You must watch your budget on a long stay, and you have all the time in the world to spend on transit.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2562212]There's more than one reason to stay in Barra. The lodging is cheaper, less hectic, the water is cleaner, and there're still enough GDPs to keep you busy. On the other hand, like Rio Bob said, in Copa, you just walk out of the building and everything is right there (except Centro termas). For convenience Copa can't be beat. Keep in mind that Vagabundo is practically living in Rio. You must watch your budget on a long stay, and you have all the time in the world to spend on transit.[/QUOTE]I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.

I concur with Rio Bob and Xpartan. For a first or short trip, Copa is the better choice. Vagabundo's situation and experience is far different from that possessed by first-time visitor to Rio de Janeiro. If you want something a little nicer than Copa that would also work well, then first or short-timers can go with Ipanema or "Ipa". Both Copa and Ipa are highly recommended for the first-timer. At least by The Cane they are LOL!

You can literally roll out of bed and on to the beach, when you stay in Copacabana (or Ipanema). I don't think you can do that at Transamerica. There are two reasons to go to Copacabana Beach. It is a crowded beach when the weather is good. I'm not looking for seclusion when I go to the beach. More people, more garotas! The socioeconomic characteristics of Copa also make it more plausible that you will be able to strike up a connection with a local girl. It's not as easy when Hooker Beach was right in front of the Rio Othon, but it is possible. Just smile and say Hello, to every garota.

Barra is a nicer beach, but it is sprawling compared to Copa and Ipanema.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2562224]I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.[/QUOTE]I'm not a water quality expert, but Ipanema seems cleaner. Less sewage run-off and further from the city than Copa. If water quality is the main objective, Barra is better hands down. Ipanema and Leblon (next to it) have good restaurants and cafes.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2562224]I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.[/QUOTE]Depending on where you are in Copacabana and how much you like to walk, walking from Copa to Ipanema is easy. So stay in either and walk to the other. Only if you're in the far part of Copa near Av Princess Isabela, it will be a long walk.

Fwiw the water gets cleaner as you go further South. Ipanema is cleaner than Copa but the current is very strong. If you want a nice swimmable clean beach, Barra may be better yet.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2562175]Are you sure your CPF expired? I think they are valid for always.

You can do a check here:

[URL]https://servicos.receita.fazenda.gov.br/Servicos/CPF/ConsultaSituacao/ConsultaPublica.asp[/URL][/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. I dug through some old paperwork and found my number and plugged it into the website. Still good!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2559999]Truer words have never been spoken. LOL.

What are all those babes from Tinder and SA doing when they aren't being paid playing girlfriends?[/QUOTE]I would venture getting fucked in the ass by their real namarados. Just my $.02.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2562178]A number of year ago I went to the Varig office in Manhattan to purchase a ticket from Rio to Curitiba, they wanted 300 damn dollars for a one way ticket. When I told him that I was only paying $375 bucks for my round trip ticket from NYC to Rio, the guy just shrugged his shoulders. I called up my girlfriend in Curitiba and she was able to book a ticket for the same day, same time and same flight from Rio to Curitiba for only 80 bucks!! I was pissed![/QUOTE]LOL. It is the same way in Colombia with Avianca. When you use the Spanish version of the Colombian website the tickets are cheaper. It is like this in Peru as well, but they have a disclaimer that if you are not in possession of a Peruvian ID when you show up for the flight, then you will be charged the remainder of the foreigner price.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2562224] I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.[/QUOTE]Meh, it is basically the same water. 1 neighborhood over is not making a difference on water quality. The ocean does not know where the neighborhoods divide. I have been getting into both for years with no ill effects.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2561567]After kicking around for a few days I think I've got the lay a the land. Here are a few thoughts.

Copacabana- is more grunge and chaotic than I had imagined. Don't get me wrong, the beach is amazing, but as you make your way in a couple streets you begin to see the character of the city. For hobbyists used to a clean, organized American city etc, it will disappoint. It's not immediately logical how to function on the day to day- but certainly can be done. It feels safe enough- don't be an obvious tourist and advertise yourself as a target and you should be fine. Don't accept fliers from guys walking at night on the beach area with no one else around. Don't get fall down drunk and stagger around. I felt fine walking from club to club at night and would feel silly taking a taxi from one to the other. That being said there was a major fracas at 4 am last night outside my window with drunken brawlers and broken car windows that lasted a good 25 minutes before they were chased off. Wouldn't want to walk up on that. The shady characters that are obvious are less dangerous than the shady characters that aren't.

Leblon- I like to walk so yesterday walked from Leblon to Atlantico to see la terre with my own eyes. As mentioned, Leblon is well appointed, clean, safe, expensive. Airbnb's reflect this. If you want an experience "similar" to Santa Monica or Leguna Beach, stay here.

Ipanema- I will be headed to an airbnb there next, it seems like a great mix- organized and clean enough to operate daily tasks, but not so well-heeled as Leblon. There's a nice Starbucks where I can imagine myself writing, etc. And other great facilities- gyms, outdoor cafe's etc. This stuff exists in Copa, but feels more run-down. Will not be able to take out from clubs so easy, but. Trade offs.

Leme- I only discovered this morning. I have a great airbnb on Princesa Isabela and finally walked across Atlantico to are Gustavo Sampaio and having discovered this. Charming. Street, will be doing most of my day to day here. G Sampaio is extremely pleasant, shaded, clean with everything you could want. No point in slogging around in Copa when this is right across the street! The beach on this end is amazing as well, with the Ponta do Leme, a great vantage point to see the city and surfers catch waves (some huge sets rolling in right now).
[/QUOTE]Since your so close to Leme, check out Bar do David as a cool place to hang out and score some local tail:

Chapyou Mangueira. Ladeira Ary Barroso- Leme, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22010-060, Brazil.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2562224]I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.[/QUOTE]It's not very good.

Like Combo I've always thought that water gets better farther south from Copa. But I'm afraid Mr. E might be right. See for yourself.

[URL]https://praialimpa.net/[/URL]

They rate all the beaches in Rio daily. I wouldn't trust them blindly, but that's some reference. The good thing is you don't have to choose. If you stay close to Arpoador, you can always go left (Copa) or go right (Ipa). Consult the website daily.

By the way: [URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/brazil-privatizes-rio-de-janeiros-water-sewage-utility-77428287[/URL].

We'll see if anything changes in the near future.

My first trip back to Rio in over a year. Can anyone tell me where I can find a 18 year old college student that's desperate for money. I'm looking for a blond about 5 ft 4 in.

OK you can unclench your jaw, loosen your fist and stop pounding your desk. This was my attempt at a little humor. I normally make at least 5 trips to SA a year. I have been spending a lot of time in Colombia. Looks like Columbia may be going into a civil war. Friends that live in Bogota tell me not to come down. They say it is as dangerous as they have ever seen it. Looking around SA, some countries just do not want tourists. Brazil is different. Brazil needs the tourist dollar and the big shots in the government could care less about covid19 deaths. I have had 2 madira shots and what the hell. My little buddy Spike says go for it.

I read this site daylie. If it wasn't for ISG I would of jumped off a bridge long ago. Preparing for this trip I reread about 20 pages just to get caught up. When your planning a trip it's fun to reread at least 20-30 pages. I do have a few questions. While in Rio in the evening I always enjoyed Setting on a walkway bench at the beach watching the young kids play soccer or the one I like the best is when they play volleyball but don't use their hands only their feet or their head. These kids have so much talent. I read some time ago that due to covid 19 the beach for locals playing sports was closed. That would be a disappointment. Anyone have a comment on this.

Also normally I stay at the Real Residents Hotel. I wonder if they are still open. But really it doesn't matter. There are so many great bargains on AIRBNB I may try an entire new area in copa.

Ok if anyone can help me with that little blond I'm looking- aw forget it I will be there in 2 weeks so I Will find a blond myself.

The water is so bad at Copa that it is noticably thicker with shit when it is warmer.

Barra posto 1-7 is where you want to be to swim in the ocean.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2562224]I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2562224]I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.[/QUOTE]Also, if you are looking for warm then you are not going to get it in Rio. You would want to go to Bahia and up for that. But if you are there in December or January like you say, then you may welcome the cold water after being on that burning sand. It literally melted my shoes (Crocs flip flops) one Christmas.

[QUOTE=Yossarian;2562266]Since your so close to Leme, check out Bar do David as a cool place to hang out and score some local tail:

Chapyou Mangueira. Ladeira Ary Barroso- Leme, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22010-060, Brazil.[/QUOTE]
Bar do David is an excellent choice for food. For those who don't like to enter a favela for having lunch, Bar do David has opened another restaurant in the corner of Rua Barata Ribeiro and Rua Prado Junior. It's not the same atmosphere as the original restaurant but the food is about the same.
I consider Bar do David perfectly save to visit, but a Dutch tourist eating at the restaurant got shot in the belly (I think in Dezember 2018) when there were a shootout between PM and bandits. Usually the bandits have a guy with a machinegun keeping watch 10 metres from the restaurant.
Regarding "scoring local tail" in Chapéu Mangueira. There are plenty of pretty girls passing by the restaurant. Smile and say "Oi" but be very careful trying to score "local tails" in favelas. Most pretty girls in the favelas do have boyfriends.

It's been almost 10 years since my last trip to Brazil, and on a whim me and 2 friends are headed down on Thursday for a week. There has been some great posts the last few days showing me what to expect. I really really miss Help. That was like the Mecca of Mongering but I know it's a new Rio now. We were able to rent a 6 bedroom Penthouse with rooftop pool for $320 a night in Arpador. Can't believe how cheap everything is right now. Looking forward to the termas but my question is what bars and clubs are there in Ipanema, Copa, Leme, that are safe for tourists. I'm not stupid. Don't wear expensive shit and stand out. But my lack of Portugese might give it away. LOL. Have 2 newbies coming with me so want to make sure I show them a good time. I've spent a lot of Covid in Jaco Costa Rica but Covid has gotten worse there and now there is a 9 pm curfew. Also what is the story with Tranamerica building in Barra. I heard there are lots of porn pros in there and wondering how to get in. I was also at Hong Kong this weekend in Tijuana and I can confirm Covid is gone in Tijuana. Lol

The optimal hotels are:

Hotel Atlántico tower, rua inhuama 95 (bad spelling), which is in the dark side, two blocks from T31, two blocks from 4 x 4, two blocks from club 116, walking distance to all the centro prives.

Transamerica, av gastao senges 395.

If I were dropping into Rio from the sky last minute, those would be my two checkpoints for shit shower shave supper sex sleep. You can even swim at both, as both have pools. I mean, you can't really swim in a 10 meter by 10 meter pool, but you can go up there with a girl and grab her ass and have fun.

I am thinking of heading to other Brazilian cities, following the ranking that senor Sperto put together. (thanks). Since the ones north are warmer now I am thinking of Belo Horizonte, and Fortaleza.

I will move this discussion over to the travel announcements thread. (once I find Sperto's rankings).

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2561999]But, even if you ignore VM and instead do club 116 and T31, in addition to the prives in central, and Perola Negra and Paris, that is more than enough source for 40 days.

That is the optimal selection.

Yes 4 x 4 too since it only has 50 reais cover.

Ignore the termas with covers over 100 (solarium, MC, centaurus).

Stay in barra not copacabana.[/QUOTE]

I went to RB156 yesterday.

I just gave them my "name" and they pulled it and gave me a card to go into and out of the building.

I just wanted a real massage at onix.

It was 110 r for an hour, and 60 for intimo.

As it turned out a real massage also included a hand job, which is a nice gesture. I was just looking for a deep tissue massage.

[QUOTE=Mangera;2559816]Someone added a report a couple of months back, in which they stated that security was looking at photo identification before entering the elevator in No Centro, specifically at Rio Branco 156 building. Can anyone verify if this has become the common practice now? I hope that is not the case. My assumption is that due to people wearing masks, it will deter potential mugging or theft.[/QUOTE]

I am currently in Rio. I didn't plan on inviting guests during my planned short stay but I have extended my stay by 4 mights, so I would like to book a girl friendly hotel in Copacabana (preferably 0 or 2 blocks from beach). I have stayed in Windsor Palace last 2 nights and staying in Windsor California next 2 nights. I guess both those hotels are not girl friendly. Can some suggest few good girl friendly hotels in Copacabana?

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2562462]I am currently in Rio. I didn't plan on inviting guests during my planned short stay but I have extended my stay by 4 mights, so I would like to book a girl friendly hotel in Copacabana (preferably 0 or 2 blocks from beach). I have stayed in Windsor Palace last 2 nights and staying in Windsor California next 2 nights. I guess both those hotels are not girl friendly. Can some suggest few good girl friendly hotels in Copacabana?[/QUOTE]You're in Copacabana now. Wouldn't it be easier to pass by some hotels and ask them if they allow guests? Don't be shy, it's a perfectly normal question to ask in the hotel receptions.
Another option would be a forum search or check out the thread "Rio de Janeiro - Hotels & Apartments".

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2562462]I am currently in Rio. I didn't plan on inviting guests during my planned short stay but I have extended my stay by 4 mights, so I would like to book a girl friendly hotel in Copacabana (preferably 0 or 2 blocks from beach). I have stayed in Windsor Palace last 2 nights and staying in Windsor California next 2 nights. I guess both those hotels are not girl friendly. Can some suggest few good girl friendly hotels in Copacabana?[/QUOTE]I like the Astoria Palace. It has been some time since I stayed there, but it was girl-friendly. The Promenade Princess Copacabana was also good, but further away from the beach (and more expensive). I'm not a fan of the Pestana since I found a standard room there to be below my expectations. I should be able to get a room that meets basic standards without having to pay for a premium room. The Pestana did not provide me with that.

[URL]https://astoriapalace.com.br/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2562466]You're in Copacabana now. Wouldn't it be easier to pass by some hotels and ask them if they allow guests? Don't be shy, it's a perfectly normal question to ask in the hotel receptions.
Another option would be a forum search or check out the thread "Rio de Janeiro - Hotels & Apartments".[/QUOTE]Thanks, Sperto for quick response and pointers. I always wondered why there are no threads for FAQs. Now I know that sort of info is available under user blogs section, which I rarely pay attention to.

Where is the uniform shop at 1 distrito naval?

Zebra checking in, sitting in the very pleasant Copa Starbucks typing this, watching the world go by. The week has been interesting so far- Sunday Clara cancelled our 3 pm and rescheduled for the next dya at noon, which turned out to be fine because I was hungover and didn't have much energy except to shuffle around the beach and watch this enormous motorcycle parade go by- seemed to be Brazilian themed with lots of flags. Experienced posters can chime in if this was some National Holiday or just a normal Sunday occurrence as Atlantico was closed after to all but foot traffic. Lovely afternoon.

Monday Clara came over for our noon appointment, as usual eager to please. I sucked on the huge titties and busted a nut on and in that pretty face / mouth as she begged for it. Such a nice girl. Freelances at Whiskeria if anyone can't connect or find her on dating apps. Still, I'm not going to call her for a bit- men crave novelty.

I slid over to Monte Carlo a few hours later where India was waiting for me. I summoned some more nut and we hit the cabine after a couple of drinks. She was still eager to please, but after the initial thrill of a new girl wears off you can sort of tell that this is the thousandth dude they've sucked off and its really just a performance. Nevertheless, India has me entranced and has figured out how to use ZebraStripes as an ATM. After fucking, we go back down to the boate and she order food on me. Bill reflected this, but this is the last time I'm going in there to get her now that I've got the zapp, etc. I saw one other dude that night- looked like a Korean businessman, and with all these hot (10+) WG's sitting around looking bored as F pretty much falling asleep in the dim light. Again- I'm amazed at the ratio- how the hell are these girls paying the bills? Maybe I just need to hit up Centro on a weekend and I'll see different crowd.

India asked if she could come over after work and we negotiated a pernoite of 600 (double her session fee of 300). I started low boys, I really did but she just would not budge. Keep in mind as far as the things I like I would consider this girl a 10. Slender, petite, perfect caramel skin, gorgeous face, 21 yrs old- very sweet, allows oral no camisinha, deepthroat, and CIM. All things I require to get off. I'm sure I could find a pernoite in there for 300 or 400, but could I get off? Probably not. Some posters are obviously more able to synthesize good experiences across a broader range of requirements and will be able to keep the costs down.

A poster recently asked what the point of a Terma could be- I think of it as a sort of talent agency and emporium. Over the internet, you just don't know what you are going to get- but here it's all on display and there is an abundance of choices. The opportunity is there to test drive on premises, and once having established a rapport, get the zapp for offsite engagements. I doubt I will be going in there to see India again, we will meet at my place from now on.

Speaking of which we have an outing to Buzios planned tentatively for Thursday- one of her days off. Looks reasonable to me as far as uber fare there, hotels, restaurants etc. The thing is, she doesn't speak English and I don't really speak Portuguese, so its not going to be riveting conversation. I got a taste of this when we had breakfast this morning. By the way, if girl ever asks you to go get her food because she is tired (as happened this morning), that's a shit test you can fail. I said hell no- you're coming with me, and she relented. Anyways, here I am walking around with this girl half my age, the whole thing is a bit ridiculous and you just need to sort of go along with it. Not that I look really old- but as one poster here eloquently wrote a while back- when you see two people of an age difference sitting together not talking, you pretty much know its about the money. I've showed her the things I do in my real life and she was impressed, but this girl is getting paid to be impressed. I think you just got to remember that. Still, I prefer something more along the line of a SA or GFE because its just exhausting to keep filtering through once you find a girl that fits.

I'm sure I will have a story to tell about Buzio, if that happens. Not sure if I'm going to poke around the boates before then- we shall see. I'm pretty satiated at the moment, and moving into a new airbnb tomorrow.

Again, I appreciate this resource and the camaraderie. Conditions on the ground are just about as ideal as it gets, but with SEA and now Colombia closed, its probable a wave of mongers are gathering to crash upon the shores. But it's a free market and the market place determines the price. I remember hearing that what caused the prices in Pattaya to go up was a combination of the girls having access to phones and an influx of Asian mongers that saw bargaining for a lower price as a loss of face. Over the next year as hobbyists make their way into the world market the sweet spot that prices are in now will surely sour- but for the moment they seem decent.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2562468]I like the Astoria Palace. It has been some time since I stayed there, but it was girl-friendly.

[URL]https://astoriapalace.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks, Cane. I called the hotel Astoria to confirm it is guest friendly before booking through a travel site.

As the hotel site is not working for some reason.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2562416]I am thinking of heading to other Brazilian cities, following the ranking that senor Sperto put together. (thanks). Since the ones north are warmer now I am thinking of Belo Horizonte, and Fortaleza.[/QUOTE]BH's winter climate is not that much different than Rio's. Small city with some charming areas. There seems to be a lot of good-looking women, but the "scene" is small.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2562512]Zebra

Speaking of which we have an outing to Buzios planned tentatively for Thursday- one of her days off. Looks reasonable to me as far as uber fare there, hotels, restaurants etc. The thing is, she doesn't speak English and I don't really speak Portuguese, so its not going to be riveting conversation. I got a taste of this when we had breakfast this morning.

.[/QUOTE]1) Make 100% sure (In writing is better) whether or not she expects to get paid for that trip to Buzios! I have seen countless mongers think they were on a "Date" with a working girl, not knowing that the meter was running and she expects payment.

2) Why on earth are you taking an Uber to Buzios? Why not just grab a bus from downtown instead?

3) If you think the age difference stands out in Copa, magnify that by 10 in Buzios.

IMHO, you barely know this girl (you probably don't even know her real name) and besides the fact that she allows you to cum in her mouth, you have nothing in common. Just keep paying her to come over after work and skip the nightmare you will experience taking a trip to a destination 4 hours away with a girl you can't communicate with.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2562578]1) Make 100% sure (In writing is better) whether or not she expects to get paid for that trip to Buzios! I have seen countless mongers think they were on a "Date" with a working girl, not knowing that the meter was running and she expects payment.

2) Why on earth are you taking an Uber to Buzios? Why not just grab a bus from downtown instead?

3) If you think the age difference stands out in Copa, magnify that by 10 in Buzios.

IMHO, you barely know this girl (you probably don't even know her real name) and besides the fact that she allows you to cum in her mouth, you have nothing in common. Just keep paying her to come over after work and skip the nightmare you will experience taking a trip to a destination 4 hours away with a girl you can't communicate with.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your thoughts, Bravo I appreciate the insight. To clarify a little bit-yes we have agreed on a price- I'm definitely not that naive. Honestly it was her suggestion, not something I came up with-and she even showed me images of a hotel, etc. She said she is from Cabo Frio. I don't think visually we look that jarring together- I don't have any grey hairs and am pretty fit, so its not a jaw drop, but I'm sure people will cluck about it to each other at the hotel pool, etc. Since I'm not involved in American politics, I think to the extent there's a scandal it will be judgmental onlookers, and haters going to hate. The uber fare was about $55 USD and looked like 2+ hrs not 4 which sounds do-able and better than being in a bus. You could be totally right and this could easily run off the rails- but then I'll just have a great story to tell you guys. I'm dumping all my stuff at my new airbnb and its just an overnight so if she turns into a mega-***** its not going to be for more than 24 hours that I need to deal with it.

By all means if any more experienced contributors here want to weigh in also, I'd love more advice, these are great considerations and will put me in a better position.

Knowing WG's she'll probably flake last minute anyways (although that would mean missing that payday).

[QUOTE=TheCane;2562468]I like the Astoria Palace. It has been some time since I stayed there, but it was girl-friendly. The Promenade Princess Copacabana was also good, but further away from the beach (and more expensive). I'm not a fan of the Pestana since I found a standard room there to be below my expectations. I should be able to get a room that meets basic standards without having to pay for a premium room. The Pestana did not provide me with that.

[URL]https://astoriapalace.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks, Cane. I booked also. $200 for 4 nights (after tax / fees).

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2562512]Zebra checking in, sitting in the very pleasant Copa Starbucks typing this, watching the world go by. The week has been interesting so far- Sunday Clara cancelled our 3 pm and rescheduled for the next dya at noon, which turned out to be fine because I was hungover and didn't have much energy except to shuffle around the beach and watch this enormous motorcycle parade go by- seemed to be Brazilian themed with lots of flags. Experienced posters can chime in if this was some National Holiday or just a normal Sunday occurrence as Atlantico was closed after to all but foot traffic. Lovely afternoon.

Monday Clara came over for our noon appointment, as usual eager to please. I sucked on the huge titties and busted a nut on and in that pretty face / mouth as she begged for it. Such a nice girl. Freelances at Whiskeria if anyone can't connect or find her on dating apps. Still, I'm not going to call her for a bit- men crave novelty.

I slid over to Monte Carlo a few hours later where India was waiting for me. I summoned some more nut and we hit the cabine after a couple of drinks. She was still eager to please, but after the initial thrill of a new girl wears off you can sort of tell that this is the thousandth dude they've sucked off and its really just a performance. Nevertheless, India has me entranced and has figured out how to use ZebraStripes as an ATM. After fucking, we go back down to the boate and she order food on me. Bill reflected this, but this is the last time I'm going in there to get her now that I've got the zapp, etc. I saw one other dude that night- looked like a Korean businessman, and with all these hot (10+) WG's sitting around looking bored as F pretty much falling asleep in the dim light. Again- I'm amazed at the ratio- how the hell are these girls paying the bills? Maybe I just need to hit up Centro on a weekend and I'll see different crowd.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, Zebra! I'll staying a couple blocks away (Thanks Cane) and will make Monte Carlo one of my first stops.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2562468]I like the Astoria Palace.[/QUOTE]I have not gotten a chance to write any reports but since you mentioned it. I stayed a couple of days at Transamerica in Barra da Tijuca. It was not for me. It is far out and isolated and you have to take an Uber anywhere you want to go. Ubers are readily available, always dropping off and picking up. I did have a beautiful view, but I am used to walking a couple of steps to be at restaurants, grocery stores, bars, beach, whatever. I paid 500 reais for 3 nights there, but did not stay the third.

I moved to Astoria Palace in Copacabana where I had a beachfront king room with jacuzzi on the 10th floor and breakfast buffet included. I paid $40 per night.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562608]I have not gotten a chance to write any reports but since you mentioned it. I stayed a couple of days at Transamerica in Barra da Tijuca. It was not for me. It is far out and isolated and you have to take an Uber anywhere you want to go. Ubers are readily available, always dropping off and picking up. I did have a beautiful view, but I am used to walking a couple of steps to be at restaurants, grocery stores, bars, beach, whatever. I paid 500 reais for 3 days there, but left on the second day.

I moved to Astoria Palace in Copacabana where I had a beachfront king room with jacuzzi on the 10th floor and breakfast buffet included. I paid $40 per night.[/QUOTE]Great and horny minds think alike on this! Hahaha!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562608]I moved to Astoria Palace in Copacabana where I had a beachfront king room with jacuzzi on the 10th floor and breakfast buffet included. I paid $40 per night.[/QUOTE]That's an amazing deal! Did you get those rates due to low season? The same room is now going for almost $100/ night.

Thanks for the report.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2562512]India asked if she could come over after work and we negotiated a pernoite of 600 (double her session fee of 300).[/QUOTE]From her point of view, she took more than double her regular fee because there is no middle man. If you only want to have a same session with her outside of work, the fee can be negotiated down in theory.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2562512] I started low boys, I really did but she just would not budge. Keep in mind as far as the things I like I would consider this girl a 10. Slender, petite, perfect caramel skin, gorgeous face, 21 yrs old- very sweet, allows oral no camisinha, deepthroat, and CIM. All things I require to get off. I'm sure I could find a pernoite in there for 300 or 400, but could I get off? Probably not. Some posters are obviously more able to synthesize good experiences across a broader range of requirements and will be able to keep the costs down.
[/QUOTE]I look at this as batting average. No one has said it is 100% batting average. You only have one opportunity so it is hard to judge but I think 600 for a 10 is a pretty good deal.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2562617]That's an amazing deal! Did you get those rates due to low season? The same room is now going for almost $100/ night.[/QUOTE]That was just at the beginning of this month like the 6th maybe? I booked it the night before or the same day on hotelsdotcom.

I did find this one.

But I am looking for the dress uniform shop. I find these a good source of well priced formal cloths. A black tie is a black tie, a blue sports coat is a blue sports coat.

But along those lines if anyone knows a good place for a suit, please advise. I found some on alfandega, but want something like the tailored suits one can find in Pohang for cents on the dollar compared to London. Something to practice law in, as I also found some of the courts.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2562511]Where is the uniform shop at 1 distrito naval?[/QUOTE]

This is why one must "make a market" by doing centro or tijuca prive girls who are positively reviewed on [URL]gparena.net[/URL] for 50-70 reais a girl, 3 times a day, for the first 3 days (that would be 9 girls, who are paid 60 for their pussy).

Then, message all 9 looking for pernoite. You will surely get them for 300 pernoite plus uber and eats.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2562635]Thanks for the report.

From her point of view, she took more than double her regular fee because there is no middle man. If you only want to have a same session with her outside of work, the fee can be negotiated down in theory.

I look at this as batting average. No one has said it is 100% batting average. You only have one opportunity so it is hard to judge but I think 600 for a 10 is a pretty good deal.[/QUOTE]