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[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1403012]I wrote it in the wrong order. I got in a taxi, told him where my hotel was located but he insisted on taking my to Patpong. After telling him no for the 3rd or 4th time I got out the taxi and slammed the door.[/QUOTE]We once got in a taxi in Patpong about 10pm going back to the hotel in Nana, but he wanted to take us to some other gogo bar close to Patpong. When we didn't want to go he made us get out on a deserted road.
[QUOTE=China 69;1402990]Have not posted in a long time. Just arrived in BKK and I'm staying at Khaosan Road. Hotel is Buddy Lodge, I stayed here about 10 years ago and it was girl friendly then and appears to still be. Front desk can be bypassed just walk straight towards the elevator as if you're going into Brick Bar but go up to the room instead. What is the scene like at KSR these days? I will be hunting in Gullivers Tavern for freelancers but I haven't been here in a few years. Can anyone recommend other places with freelancers? If it is bad I guess I will have to move to Sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]Are you 24, have all your shit in a backpack, tatted up, in a tank top, want cheap drinks, and drink and yell and act like an AH all day?
That is where you are staying, but I guess you know that already.
I would move to Sukhumvit immediately.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1403058]Are you 24, have all your shit in a backpack, tatted up, in a tank top, want cheap drinks, and drink and yell and act like an AH all day?
That is where you are staying, but I guess you know that already.
I would move to Sukhumvit immediately.[/QUOTE]Unless they have no clue about grown-up life in Bangkok.
KS Road is full of backpackers thinking they know it all- and trying to get another back packer into bed in the 20 plus bed dormitories.
Mongering starts in the low number sois an Sukhumvit Road. Soi Nana to Soi 33 and then on to Ekami. More up-market and you hit Ratcha.
When a driver pulls crap like that, I do a really passive-aggressive thing: I get out of the taxi but [b]leave the passenger door open[/b], so the driver has to get out, walk around, and close it. Similarly, if the driver doesn't offer to help me with my bags (all I want is for him to offer) , I just [b]leave the trunk open[/b] so that he has to get out, walk around, and close it. For taxi drivers, time is money, so anything that costs him time also costs him money.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1402674]Had this happen once. Slammed the door as hard as I could hoping it would fall off and walked out of the taxi.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1403058]Are you 24, have all your shit in a backpack, tatted up, in a tank top, want cheap drinks, and drink and yell and act like an AH all day?
That is where you are staying, but I guess you know that already.
I would move to Sukhumvit immediately.[/QUOTE]You forgot dreadlocks and those big baggy sweatpants or whatever the hell they are. BTW, there's nothing wrong with cheap drinks LOL.
This reminds me a few months ago I was walking toward the entrance to Rainbow 4 and there was a drunk backpacker type. Dreadlocks and just a filthy look to him, had his pants down to his ankles and his dirty looking underwear showing and was spewing nonsense out of his piehole. All the Thai body guards just looked at him like he was an idiot, too bad they didn't clobber the guy, one of the very few times I wished ill will towards another foreigner. LOL
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1403149]You forgot dreadlocks and those big baggy sweatpants or whatever the hell they are. BTW, there's nothing wrong with cheap drinks LOL.
This reminds me a few months ago I was walking toward the entrance to Rainbow 4 and there was a drunk backpacker type. Dreadlocks and just a filthy look to him, had his pants down to his ankles and his dirty looking underwear showing and was spewing nonsense out of his piehole. All the Thai body guards just looked at him like he was an idiot, too bad they didn't clobber the guy, one of the very few times I wished ill will towards another foreigner. LOL[/QUOTE]HAHA. Very funny about that dreadlocker. I think they take pride in never showering.
Dear Colleagues,
I apologize if I'm posting my question in a wrong place. I am almost ready for my trip to BKK and need to figure out where to change cash and how to get my smart phone turn into local BKK phone.
- Do I change all the cash in the airport, or only enough to get me to the hotel? Do I change the rest in the bank or at some change point?
- Do I get SIM at the airport? I would need SIM to do some texting, some calls and data (unless the latter is expensive). In short. I'd like my smart phone to work in BKK similar to the way it works in the West. Or should I get the SIM card in the city?
Many thanks for the detailed advice!
A
[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1403240]Dear Colleagues,
I apologize if I'm posting my question in a wrong place. I am almost ready for my trip to BKK and need to figure out where to change cash and how to get my smart phone turn into local BKK phone.
- Do I change all the cash in the airport, or only enough to get me to the hotel? Do I change the rest in the bank or at some change point?
- Do I get SIM at the airport? I would need SIM to do some texting, some calls and data (unless the latter is expensive). In short. I'd like my smart phone to work in BKK similar to the way it works in the West. Or should I get the SIM card in the city?
Many thanks for the detailed advice!
A[/QUOTE]Get your sim at the airport. DTAC has a 199 baht special for 1 Gig of data for a week and they will set up the APN for you. Changing money is fairly reasonable at the airport. But you can find better rates in the city if you are bringing in 100 dollar notes. I would just change enough to get you in the city and then go find a change place or bank. If you get in before 11 or so you can ride the train in the city.
[url]http://www.urbanrail.net/as/bang/bangkok.htm[/url]
I just got back from there last month.
[QUOTE=Seaham1900;1402563]Just wonder why it is ole EHunter gets so bothered about an issue that has zip to do with him.[/QUOTE]Did not think I would have spell it out to you, but ok.
The reason is your clogging up our threads with your over-one-week old petty arguments that I am sure the majority of the people here rather not have to sift through. Maybe the readers here want some juvenileness. But I sure as heck don't so stop heckling the other poster will ya.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1403251]Did not think I would have spell it out to you, but ok.
The reason is your clogging up our threads with your over-one-week old petty arguments that I am sure the majority of the people here rather not have to sift through. Maybe the readers here want some juvenileness. But I sure as heck don't so stop heckling the other poster will ya.[/QUOTE]Takes two to tango, if you truly want it to stop then stop responding to him. No need to respond to this either, just let it go.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1402652]Hear! Hear!
I've taken taxis all over the world, and can think of nowhere except BKK where the drivers just refuse to take you someplace, unless they have a very good reason. It happens more and more.[/QUOTE]Beijing and Shanghai taxi drivers are good for this. Manila too. In Beijing recently, drivers at night lock the passenger door so you have to negotitate through the window. Otherwise I often just get right in, and sit there till the driver moves to where I want to go pretending I don't konw what hes saying.
[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1403240]Dear Colleagues,
I apologize if I'm posting my question in a wrong place. I am almost ready for my trip to BKK and need to figure out where to change cash and how to get my smart phone turn into local BKK phone.
- Do I change all the cash in the airport, or only enough to get me to the hotel? Do I change the rest in the bank or at some change point?
- Do I get SIM at the airport? I would need SIM to do some texting, some calls and data (unless the latter is expensive). In short. I'd like my smart phone to work in BKK similar to the way it works in the West. Or should I get the SIM card in the city?
Many thanks for the detailed advice!
A[/QUOTE]Numerous money exchange booths at airport; all offer same rate. Get a few hundred baht at airport for taxi. Exchange the rest after you arrive at your destination for better rates. The best rates are at Superrich1965. There's one at the Chit Lom BTS station. Best rates are on US$100. Be sure the bills are in [U]perfect[/U] Condition and there are no pen marks on them. None of the money exchange booths accept bills that are old or have marks on them; you'll have to take these to banks who offer lower rates. ATMs are also an option. You'll get hit with a THB150 fee, plus your bank's ATM charge fee and a fee for the currency conversation. Superrich1965 is definitely a better deal after you factor in the cost of these fees. It comes down to how much cash you need and are willing to carry on you while traveling.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1402966]Whether I am paying 500 baht to a Beach Road gal or 2100 for 90 min at an oily, I expect (and negotiate when taking freelancers) a certain level of service and a good attitude. When I get to the room and a gal won't DFK, won't DTY, does not want to be fingered, and won't give a BBBJ, or stops every 15 sec to spit in a tissue, I am not going to be happy with the service. I will call off the session and remunerate a small amount depending on how far the session went. Normally it has not gone very far, so I give the gal 100 baht and leave. I don't get angry at the gal. I tell her that she should not do anything that she does not want to do, but she should not promise "good service." Then I ask her if she has seen a "sex" movie or if she has ever had sex with someone she loves. Of course the answer is always yes. Then I tell her that is the way I expect her to have sex with me, and that this is what many Farangs expect. Now if the attitude is bad and there is no service level, I will probably give nothing, just get out of there the way Tony did. Dudes that pay full price for terrible service are doing no one a favor. The gals will continue to provide cr*p as long as guys accept it.[/QUOTE]Well said!
As I can speak Thai and have been here a very long time I can tell you that many girls deliberatly do things to annoy the monger in the hope he will call off the session but still pay the full tip.
People who pay full price for bad attitidue and bad service are simply playing into the hands of the girls looking for mug punters who will pay full price for bad service.
So remember that next time. More often than not the girl is trying it on hoping to turn you off so you leave early or accept a hand job and pay full tip and go quickly.
If you ever get into a situation where its not going how you want it to go, or she is refusing to DFK etc. Then simply call a halt, say you are leaving, give her a small amount of cash, tell the owner that service no good and leave.
[quote=freebiefan;1403266]beijing and shanghai taxi drivers are good for this. manila too. in beijing recently, drivers at night lock the passenger door so you have to negotitate through the window. otherwise i often just get right in, and sit there till the driver moves to where i want to go pretending i don't konw what hes saying.[/quote]tried this in bogota some years ago. my spanish isn't much to brag about but i understood the driver wasnt to interested in driving me to the zona rosa area of town. i just sat there pretendingni did not know whats beeing said from the front seat (partly true). then he suddenly took off and as he was rather angry at me still sitting in his car so he brought his car to quite high speed. he did not listen to me as i was asking him to stop. when we finaly hit some sort of outskirts of bogota after a quite long drive it started to look rather shanty. people were wearing less and less clothes and were higher and higher on drugs. then the driver suddenly stopped and told me in angry spanish to get the fuck out even mentioning putas but i was very far from my comfortsone and would not touch a girl in that area with a full nbc kit. i did not have a choice but to get out and even if i have been in afghanistan i have never been so afraid before. it felt like i was the only one fully dressed (clubbing outfit) , not on drugs and not carrying guns. luckely i found myself a drugaddicted chica, gave her some pesos and my phone and she called me a new cab. so these days, if from some reason me and the cabby don't come to a sudden agreement, i get the fuck out and try a new one. but never had any real issues regarding this in asia whatsoever.
Keep it simple guys.
Noobs. Negotiate from outside the car, talking through wound down window. If driver does not agree to destination, 'use meter' etc, then either he moves on, or you move on, that is, you do not get in. Normally there is an oversupply of taxis, wherever you go. Your in control when your outside the taxi, out of control if you did not negotiate before entering taxi. Even in Manila its rare to have problem with taxi driver, if you clarify everything before entering his taxi. Same with the girls, clarify before entering her, LOL.
[QUOTE=Mack Dad; 1403249]Changing money is fairly reasonable at the airport. But you can find better rates in the city if you are bringing in 100 dollar notes. I would just change enough to get you in the city and then go find a change place or bank. If you get in before 11 or so you can ride the train in the city.[/QUOTE]That would be like changing $5! Sure you will get a strange look by the lady at the booth (smile). We're talking about a SMALL difference, may be $1 or $2, that you can also minimize looking for who gives the best rate (probably Kasikorn).
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1403280]Well said!
If you ever get into a situation where its not going how you want it to go, or she is refusing to DFK etc. Then simply call a halt, say you are leaving, give her a small amount of cash, tell the owner that service no good and leave.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. Then the issue is that there are places that want you to pay before, and many men not knowing better, will just accept that. Having 'banked' the money already will actually stimulate poor behavoir in some girls. In these case you will be lucky getting Bt 200 back. So, if you want to play it right, [b]do not ever pay before[/b], choose another way to get laid.
[QUOTE=China 69;1402990]What is the scene like at KSR these days?[/QUOTE]If you just go around a little from there, you will find a side with many, many SWs, and low prices (smiles).
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1403058]Are you 24, have all your shit in a backpack, tatted up, in a tank top, want cheap drinks, and drink and yell and act like an AH all day?
That is where you are staying, but I guess you know that already.
I would move to Sukhumvit immediately.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your remarks. The answer to all your questions is no except for the part about cheap drinks. I have stayed on Sukhumvit many many times but I have reasons to stay at KSR right now.
[quote=run mann;1403264]takes two to tango, if you truly want it to stop then stop responding to him. no need to respond to this either, just let it go.[/quote]well said. but i bet ecunter would love some butter in his buttocks, sound like a kinky thang, ok lets get freaky flunky!
patpong or should that read pisspong.
went to meet a client this evening in silom, so have our meeting i head over to patpong, omg! how dire is this place now. it was like backpackers v's koreans, i mean that is all i saw. first stop was sol, but no frigging way, the lovely lassies outside were all eating somtam, so no way was i getting fire dick, so went to a cheeky little soapy i know round the corner called tanika (or something like that) not far from rose bar. went upstairs and saw a lovely choice of fine fillies.
been here many times and always paid 1000 baht for 90 minutes full hardcore fun. it must have new management as they quoted be 2, 000 which i said mai dai. trick is to get up and walk away, but they soon say "ok, wot you pay" just type 1000 baht into their little calculator and off you go with a lady of your choice, oh before you gop to the room, she chants something in thai and hits a wooded cock on a bell, then all the other girs says something, very weird indeed. this place was on a youtube video with same yippon dude that captured [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], sol and dr big jock with his little specs camera, naughty naughty yippon! lol!
now, this place kick annies for quality and price. i mean its the same routine as there but half the price. started of with a nice all over soapie massage, tits in my ass, tits in my face, tits everywhere. after that into the tub for a nice gentle massage, teasing little minx got me so hard. off to the bed for another massage and bbbj. 69, a lot and i mean a lot of ass munching was going on here, both me and her. wowzerrs! then on with jonnie and wham bam thank you mam.
tipped her 500 baht as it was a dam good 90 minutes. total cost was 1000 baht for mamasan. 100 baht for my sprite and 500 baht for her, total 1600 baht and left have very happy and very empty guy. patpong is really a sad place now, but hey, in the words of big arnie " i'll be back!"
[QUOTE=Marcos;1403401]That would be like changing $5![/QUOTE]Yes, correct, about a half day's wages at new Thai Minimum Wage.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1403401]Sure you will get a strange look by the lady at the booth (smile).[/QUOTE]I did just this (although in my case it was some leftover MYR) , and they didn't skip a beat. I made a small joke about it being all I had and THEN they smiled (slightly & politely) though. They didn't seem to care much at all, really. LOL.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1403401]We're talking about a SMALL difference, may be $1 or $2.[/QUOTE]The old it's only 2 bucks, poor boy, argument. Many people in the world subsist on less per day. I'm lucky to make slightly more, but humble enough to appreciate the the fruits of my labor. But if you feel like giving away 2 USD you may PM me for my PayPal addy. I will gladly take it, out of principle. Also I don't like to feed airport scams, like the Coordinated Crappy Rates at BKK Airport.
[QUOTE=Lotus303;1403530]so went to a cheeky little soapy I know round the corner called Tanika (or something like that) not far from Rose Bar.[/QUOTE]So I did Google searches on "Tanika massage parlor Bangkok," turned up a tailor in Klongtoey, and "Rose Bar Bangkok," got zero hits. Be kind and provide more information about how to find this fine establishment.
Thank you for all who provided advice on where is best to get a SIM card and where to exchange cash.
I wonder, if anyone knows of good exchange places near Sukhumvit Soi 12, BTS Asok station? I understand that Superrich1965 or Kasikorn is recommended.
Thanks again!
A
[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1403584]Thank you for all who provided advice on where is best to get a SIM card and where to exchange cash.
I wonder, if anyone knows of good exchange places near Sukhumvit Soi 12, BTS Asok station? I understand that Superrich1965 or Kasikorn is recommended.
Thanks again!
A[/QUOTE]The rates change in those places hourly.
There are a bunch of them around that area. Just walk around and look for the best rate.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut; 1403534]Yes, correct, about a half day's wages at new Thai Minimum Wage.
I did just this (although in my case it was some leftover MYR) , and they didn't skip a beat. I made a small joke about it being all I had and THEN they smiled (slightly & politely) though. They didn't seem to care much at all, really. LOL.
The old it's only 2 bucks, poor boy, argument. Many people in the world subsist on less per day. I'm lucky to make slightly more, but humble enough to appreciate the the fruits of my labor. But if you feel like giving away 2 USD you may PM me for my PayPal addy. I will gladly take it, out of principle. Also I don't like to feed airport scams, like the Coordinated Crappy Rates at BKK Airport.[/QUOTE]I was thinking to be the cheapest bastard in the the world (see my postings in BKK hotel and general) but you beat me to that award.
Try to see things in perspective, eg. For a 4 days stay, changing $400 at airport. It is worth to have to go shopping for the best exchange later on for $2?
This said from someone that actually used to make money on the black market exchange (in another country at another time), for a meager 40 bucks round-trip, but changing various thousands and taking all the risks.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1403584]I wonder, if anyone knows of good exchange places near Sukhumvit Soi 12, BTS Asok station? I understand that Superrich1965 or Kasikorn is recommended.[/QUOTE]There are money changers in the Arab section between Suk soi 5 and soi 7 one block back. They give a good exchange rate for pristine $100 USD bills. They are small shops and some look like travel agents.
SunLover
Saturday night I met up with a friend of mine who lives in Bangkok. We went for a meal at some non-descript production line type restaurant in terminal 21. I really like the open air places better, there seems to be a sterile feel to these mall eateries. About 9 ish we decided to have a look in at some bars in Soi Cowboy. Looked in on suzy Wongs but it was too early for the shows. Popped in to Baccara which we both like and was surprised that it wasnt as busy as I have seen it before. Strained our necks walking to the stairs up to 1st flr. I do like big tits and there are a few girls with nice big silicon beauties. Had a few drinks but didn't see anything I would take out. Next we went to sharks but only stayed for 1 drink as the choice was dire to be honest and didn't like being to buy 3 different girls a drink. Then we hit Cowboy 2 and was quite impressed with a few of the dancers on offer. Bought 1 a few drinks and was taken with her good nature and her great tits. Think she said her name was May but not 100% on that.
She tried her luck for 2. 5K ST but I think 2 is a fair price. Can't fault them for giving it a go as I'm sure they sometimes get it. Had a couple more drinks in the bar as she was a pleasant person the jumped in a taxi (actually 3rd taxi which was the first one to agree to use the meter). The session was OK without being too memorable. The blowjob was good but had to remind her this was without condom as per our converatsion before the barfine. I don't have a big checklist I go through as this spoils the mood but it can be wise to thrash out a few basic ground rules. I have seen some reports laid out in a certain way which I thought was good so will copy the format.
Face. 7/10.
Tits. 7/10.
Body 8/10.
Blowjob 8/10.
Attitude 7/10.
Do again, to the bar yes, with her no.
Value for money, I suppose so. A shag is a shag after all.
This being my first report I would like if people could give me some pointers for future reports. Don't worry about being too negative or harsh if anyone wants to criticize the report as all feedback is welcome.
H
[QUOTE=Marcos;1403681]I was thinking to be the cheapest bastard in the the world (see my postings in BKK hotel and general) but you beat me to that award.[/QUOTE]Haha. Thank you, Sir, for the award. I will wear the badge with Honor (provided I get it for free).
[QUOTE=Marcos;1403681]Try to see things in perspective, eg. For a 4 days stay, changing $400 at airport. It is worth to have to go shopping for the best exchange later on for $2?[/QUOTE]As always, it's really up to you. However, in my case I arrived late, just needed some taxi money (hotel was prepaid) so my leftover ringgits came in handy. Changed the MYRs, grabbed a cab (after agreeing on a B35 flagdown + meter, of course) and went there to crash. Next day, changed crisp Benjamins near hotel at good rate, easy peasy for me in this case. But I agree, and I do occasionally splurge, in fact my previous flight into Thailand was in biz LOL. What I don't like is feeding scams, and BKK airport exchange is one of them. And whatever the board members think of Dante's attitude here, he has a point regarding the ATM Bank Mafia Surcharge in Thailand. (It's actually the same in the Phils now, high local ATM fees, combined with low limits = lots of "free easy poreigner money" for the banks.)
[QUOTE=Marcos;1403681]This said from someone that actually used to make money on the black market exchange (in another country at another time), for a meager 40 bucks round-trip, but changing various thousands and taking all the risks.[/QUOTE]You did something good there, providing liquidity and good rates to the market!
[QUOTE=Mack Dad; 1403249]Get your sim at the airport. DTAC has a 199 baht special for 1 Gig of data for a week and they will set up the APN for you. Changing money is fairly reasonable at the airport. But you can find better rates in the city if you are bringing in 100 dollar notes. I would just change enough to get you in the city and then go find a change place or bank. If you get in before 11 or so you can ride the train in the city.
[url]http://www.urbanrail.net/as/bang/bangkok.htm[/url]
I just got back from there last month.[/QUOTE]What is the best way to get to the city from the airport? Taxi? Or is the train an option?
[QUOTE=Himeros; 1403776]Saturday night I met up with a friend of mine who lives in Bangkok.
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This being my first report I would like if people could give me some pointers for future reports. Don't worry about being too negative or harsh if anyone wants to criticize the report as all feedback is welcome.[/QUOTE]Nice report! I have seen much worse by members of more senior level.
Only one comment: as the girls' names are indeed sometimes very difficult to understand (and / or remember) ; try to get her number and mention that in your report. Most a-gogo girls display their number when dancing. In Suzie Wong they even mention it on your receipt when you pay the bar-fine. I'm not sure if they also mention the name.
Thank you all for the SIM card and exchange info!
A
Can't wait to move in Bangkok in a week. Every month hitting a new place up for less then $200 average. All expensive as fuck, if coming from America. Paid tickets to phnom penh, Jakarta, Singapore, and kuala lumpar. Hoping for Hong kong, ho chi minh and manila after that.
Rented a real shit box in on nut that will also use as storage.
I may move to Pattaya in the future but chose on nut for the cheap rent, cheap massages, cheap good food (night market, Tesco) and easy bts access and easy airport access but know of nowhere in the area to get my dick wet. Can someone help a kid out? Would like a night of finding a girl without sweating my balls off. Tough life.
I got my dick bitten off by mosquitoes in Pattaya and found the food to be expensive and not as good (the jomtien night market is sick though). The bar girls were practically charging the same although the other p4p was cheaper I feel like the rent is actually higher then in some spots in Bangkok. No homo, but there is danger in the air there and felt like some bad shit would happen to me eventually as wild as I can get.
What does "best" mean to you?
[QUOTE=Gg2002;1403904]What is the best way to get to the city from the airport? Taxi? Or is the train an option?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gg2002;1403904]What is the best way to get to the city from the airport? Taxi? Or is the train an option?[/QUOTE]I was there in February. Metered taxis are available at BKK Airport Level 1. Fare to Silom was under 400 baht which includes the 50 baht airport pick up charge, I rounded up to 400 when I paid. When I went back to BKK a week later the hotel ordered me a taxi for a fixed fare of 400 baht. Then when I landed in BKK a week later after been in Phuket I went to Level 1 and paid an all in fare (including airport pick up & tolls) of 1500 baht to Pattaya. On way back to BKK from Pattaya, hotel ordered me a taxi for a fixed fare of 1200 baht.
I used the BTS & MRT a lot when I was in Bangkok, but I didn't fancy the train to/from the airport because of lugging my luggage around. I understand it is a decent service, but the difference between a taxi and the train might only be approx 200 baht, seen I was on holidays I paid the extra. Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1403584]Thank you for all who provided advice on where is best to get a SIM card and where to exchange cash.
I wonder, if anyone knows of good exchange places near Sukhumvit Soi 12, BTS Asok station? I understand that Superrich1965 or Kasikorn is recommended.
Thanks again!
A[/QUOTE]Whether it is good or not, I do not know but theres a currency exchange inside Terminal 21. Their rates looked ok when I briefly passes by yesterday. I may be wrong of course.
[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1403584]Thank you for all who provided advice on where is best to get a SIM card and where to exchange cash.
I wonder, if anyone knows of good exchange places near Sukhumvit Soi 12, BTS Asok station? I understand that Superrich1965 or Kasikorn is recommended.
Thanks again!
A[/QUOTE]Superich 1965 has different rates at different outlets. The best rates are only to be had at the Rachadamri and Silom branches.
At Rachadamri ther is also another Superrich company (website superrichthailand. Com) with sometimes even slighty better rates.
Another option is Vasu on the corner of Sukhumvit at soi 7/1. They offer rates slightly worse than Superrich but better than most others.
Landed around 1am Thursday the 28th. Cleared immigration and customs quickly. Exchanged a few bucks at the airport to have local money. So as you would guess. Not a good rate. A little more than 27 baht to 1 USD. In Bangkok we found a place that was 29. 92 baht to 1 USD. Went outside and found the taxi cabs wanted 1000 baht to take my buddy and I to the nana plaza area. Went down stairs to metered taxi and went with them. The tolls were 25 baht at the first one and the second one was 45 baht. So, just over $2 us for tolls. The taxi was 210 baht. About $7 USD. Taxi fare, tolls and tip. $10 USD for my buddy and I from the BKK airport to the nana plaza hotel area. We checked into our rooms at the white orchid. 700 baht each. It's a dive hotel. But cheap. After getting settled in and cleaning up we headed out and picked up a couple of girls in front of the nana plaza hotel. My girl was in a hurry and kept complaining about being tired. She did have an amazing body and that was one of two factors that kept her in my room. The other was the fact it was close to 3am and the girls were heading home. After I gave here 1000 baht she asked for a tip. I told her no because she was lazy and or tired. So off she went. Went to sleep around 5am.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1404037]Barfined Rainbow 4 girl for the 11th time yesterday.[/QUOTE]I will never understand why someone would bf the same working girl for 11 times. Might as well marry her? This is BKK, correct? But I respect your decision.
Spaceman
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1404132]We checked into our rooms at the white orchid. 700 baht each. It's a dive hotel. But cheap.[/QUOTE]A quick Google tells me that White Orchid is located near Chinatown, so while it may be cheap, but how can it be convenient? I usually use the Dynasty hotel which is (really) next door to NEP. Cheapest room about double the price of White Orchid, but oh-so handy location!
I have tried the Dynasty Grande on soi 6, but this one has the best location.
Spaceman
Up at 7am. Tired, eyes hurt, my mind was wide awake and racing. WTF! Got up and started my day. Only slept 2 hours. We had the breakfast buffet at the nana plaza hotel for 250 baht. It went up in the last two years. Walked around for a couple of hours. Then had a thai oil message for an hour at 400 baht ($12) or there about. Later met May down the road. 26, petite with a shapely body. Great attitude, great service, BBBJ. GFE. This is why I cam to Thailand. She stayed about an hour and a half. I'm all about the short time. Gave her the 1000 baht we agreed to and off she went. Later my buddy and I went to a shopping mall near by and went to the 3rd floor for a late lunch. A large bowl of yum tom soup and a serving of rice was 40 baht. About 9pm we checked out the angel witch bar and as usual they put on a good show. My tiger beer was 150 baht. After a couple of beers we went to rainbow 4. My tiger beer there was 155 baht. Later that night I met Ning. 25, another 4' 10" cutie I met down the road from the nana plaza hotel. I don't normally do the spinners. But this girl was all smiles, warm, friendly. Had to have her. Got back to the room. Cleaned up. Another top performer. Great attitude, great service, no hurry, BBBJ, GFE again. 1000 baht and down the road she went. Yeah, I don't normally tip. If a girl is good enough in my opinion. I'll recommend her to my buddy. Close to 4am lights out.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1404037]The End! The girl kills the GOOSE that lays the golden eggs!
Barfined Rainbow 4 girl for the 11th time yesterday. Got off to a rocky start as she raised the price on me. LOL. I asked for a little extra time and she said 3000 baht. I agreed knowing it would be my last time. I'm not into $120 plus short times!
A bit far off from the 2500 short time price I got at the beginning. LOL.
Being an ez barfine and very much a regular I was surprised at the her concept of milking me for every baht. At least she did me a favor by telling me where I stood. Just another dick in the crowd. LOL.
I could tell she just wasnt into me anymore. She just went thru the motions, not as much fun like before. Body language not so hot either.
Have fun while it lasts guys. These girls have it tough, no way an ordinary pretty girl who is popular can provide top quality service over time. Providing sex for a living just has to wear down a girl mentally, not to mention physically.
In the 4 months I've known this girl she doesn't seem to be as upbeat as she was when I first met her.[/QUOTE]As you said 3 months ago about your fresh farm girl "I'm watching a superstar in the making. I wonder what shell be like in 3 months, etc. So fascinating."
It doesn't take long for them to get jaded.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1402901]I can't pinpoint which part of EHunter's post could be considered idiotic, perhaps you could help me out here?
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]My answer, which I thought reasonable, to your kind invitation to share experiences was
"Great idea my friend you first. Tell us about your 200 baht session in Chinatown and I'll give you one about of my 500 baht session from soi 4 OK."
To which Ehunter comments.
"Hey, Mr 10 posts,
Must you really go back a full week to resurrect one of your petty arguments?
We already know you don't like paying the current going rates for service, but you can at least fork over a $20 for a subscription here can't you? Cheapazz."
Why idiotic?
What has 10 posts got to do with anything. We all started with one.
I don't spend my life on ISG so If I skip a week before catching up should that invalidate my post. Secondly I was'nt resurrecting an argument I was offering an invitation.
I pay going rates for service which means I don't pay 1000 at BJ bars other than the one visit to your place to check it out, a position I explained when I later posted on the experience.
I trust this clarifies the meaning of idiotic.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1404124]Superich 1965 has different rates at different outlets. The best rates are only to be had at the Rachadamri and Silom branches.
At Rachadamri ther is also another Superrich company (website superrichthailand. Com) with sometimes even slighty better rates.
Another option is Vasu on the corner of Sukhumvit at soi 7/1. They offer rates slightly worse than Superrich but better than most others.[/QUOTE]Forget about Vasu exchange! They tried to cheat me with fiddling around with the exchange rate! See my report in BKK places to avoid. Vasu exchange is definitely a place to avoid!
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1404037]The End! The girl kills the GOOSE that lays the golden eggs!
Barfined Rainbow 4 girl for the 11th time yesterday. Got off to a rocky start as she raised the price on me. LOL. I asked for a little extra time and she said 3000 baht. I agreed knowing it would be my last time. I'm not into $120 plus short times!
SNIP
In the 4 months I've known this girl she doesn't seem to be as upbeat as she was when I first met her.[/QUOTE]Hang in there Harold. This is your education unfolding right here right now. You are not THE goose, just A goose to her. Just as you concluded, another dick in the crowd. I also believe this is the result of HER education right here right now. Her friends and co-workers have coached her nonstop for 4 months. By the time you took her for the 6th or 7th time people were telling her that you are easy pickin's. And when you paid the increased price you proved it, in her mind that you are stupid. I'm not saying that about you though. I'm glad to read your reports. I myself like to repeat with my favorite providers but I never lose perspective on our pleasure for business transaction.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1404037]Barfined Rainbow 4 girl for the 11th time yesterday.[/QUOTE]First off harold, and Wolvenvacht, cheers for the feedback / response on my first ever post I was ecpecting to be ignored to be honest. Quick question: when you were taking this girl from Rainbow 4 for shart time fun were you getting other girls as well or was it exclusively her?
H
Hi All,
Have anybody stayed in BKK on the month of May on Buddha's Birthday period (approx. Between 24th. 26th May) , unfortunately my holidays are falling on those days, so would like to know the situation in advance, the availability of GIRLS and Liquor. I'm not a GOGO fan, I'm focusing on Soapies, Oilies and Freelances (Discos, Beer garden, Suk. Area ).
Thanks,
Wismar
[QUOTE=Harold444;1404037]The End! The girl kills the GOOSE that lays the golden eggs![/QUOTE]Well Harold I have to respect the fact that you gave it one more chance. At least now you will have peace of mind and not have to wrestle with the "what if"? scenario.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1404037]At least she did me a favor by telling me where I stood. Just another dick in the crowd. LOL.[/quote]Indeed, but each of our own is always the best one she'll ever get to experience!
[quote]She just went thru the motions, not as much fun like before.[/quote]Familiarity breeds, if not contempt, then at least dulls the shine from my dabblings with mongering.
By the 3rd visit to a great provider, I find going through the motions can start to creep in from myself too, just as much as from their side. Both of us trying to repeat the same formulas / triggers that gave those spectacular highs the first couple of times, and is the reason why Butterflying seems to keep things alive and fresh even if it risks encountering a dire provider now and then.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1404187]Hang in there Harold. This is your education unfolding right here right now. You are not THE goose, just A goose to her. Just as you concluded, another dick in the crowd. I also believe this is the result of HER education right here right now. Her friends and co-workers have coached her nonstop for 4 months. By the time you took her for the 6th or 7th time people were telling her that you are easy pickin's. And when you paid the increased price you proved it, in her mind that you are stupid. I'm not saying that about you though. I'm glad to read your reports. I myself like to repeat with my favorite providers but I never lose perspective on our pleasure for business transaction.[/QUOTE]Rainbow 4 girls may start off with a reasonable attitude, when they first start working there, but doesn't take long for the rot to set in and just plain monetary greed to take over with little thought of providing service, it seems. Many girls there have bad attitude, and I don't refer to just the price, but moreso the intended service approach. Many seem to be looking for 20 min short times and no GFE. This is not the best bar for finding girls who want to do fabulous fun 2 hour plus short times. Not impossible, but choose carefully. Have even had a long time girl from Rainbow 4. Generally I have a lot better experience with Suzie Wong girls for example, even if I have to accept small tits. They know what I expect for the good money and know a great performance will be rewarded and there will be future repeats. They also know I won't take any girl that is pushy, annoying, too much of an actress or fake, too lazy, etc.
11 times the same girl? Holy cow Batman! You spent a small fortune on this girl. You should have made a deal with her and bought her an ipad in exchange for entry to her anus LOL
[QUOTE=Wismar; 1404221]Hi All,
Have anybody stayed in BKK on the month of May on Buddha's Birthday period (approx. Between 24th. 26th May) , unfortunately my holidays are falling on those days, so would like to know the situation in advance, the availability of GIRLS and Liquor. I'm not a GOGO fan, I'm focusing on Soapies, Oilies and Freelances (Discos, Beer garden, Suk. Area ).
Thanks,
Wismar[/QUOTE]Was there on Makha Bucha day. NEP and Cowboy were closed. Some discos were open. Still plenty of freelancers on the street.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1404125]. Well worth the $100 to barfine her. At least once.
[QUOTE]pardon me. 100USA$ for BF? I am miles away from "price police", but ust wondering whether I read it right or there is a typo.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1404368].
Imagine going after $7 last night cost her all this. Mind boggling![/QUOTE]Yep, Harold444,
You are the king of the cheap charlies, and my super-hero.
In reality - you are nothing more than a very very very big asshole. [May be not even that. ]
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
Not much out during the day. Well, as far as street girls. Had my usual 60 baht lunch at the mall nearby. Checked out airline prices to fly to Jakarta, Indonesia. Was quoted $303 with one bag under 20 kilos and one 7 kilo carry on bag at a travel agent on soi 11. A little high I think. I will be flying out of Cambodia anyway, so I will get another quote when I arrive in Cambodia from Cambodia to Indonesia. Found pohn down the street. A little older but a curvy body. Short time, BBBJ. 1000 baht plus 100 baht for ride back to soi. 17 I think it was. Good service, didn't speak much English. Later I picked up another girl in front of the nana hotel. She too was curvy and older. Took her up. 1000 baht, BBBJ, shy, poor English skills. Overall. So so. I can't wait to get to Pattaya. The idea of walking out on the boardwalk and finding a girl at 7 am works for me. Heading there tomorrow. Haha, in about 6 hours actually. Oh yeah, ran across a table on the main drag with a banner stating if you spit, liter or sleep in public parks you will be cited and have to pay a fine. I talked with the officer on duty a little bit. His English wasn't the best. He told be the minimum fine was 500 baht for throwing a cigarette butt on the ground. And it was a maximum fine of 2000 baht. I asked; what if you didn't have the money on you? And he said. You would have to pick up 20 butts. Yes, they were writing up people one after the other. I think as a traveler, we should respect the countries we visit. I also asked; what happen to the elephants that used to walk up and down the streets? The officer told me elephants were not allowed in any city limits in Thailand.
If anybody is wondering. The white orchid I mentioned earlier is on scott street and soi 4. It's two short blocks from the nana plaza hotel. The card I have says there are 4 white orchid locations. There is the white orchid two on this same street I'm on as a matter of fact. There are at least three other hotels on scott street too. The others are asking 1200 baht to 1400baht or there about. For 700 baht, I will stay in the white orchid. It takes me three minutes to walk to the nana plaza hotel. And I walk slow. Any questions folks, feel free to message me. But if I don't respond quickly. Keep in mind that I am still on vacation. Have fun and play safe!
[QUOTE=Lakeside;1404181]Forget about Vasu exchange! They tried to cheat me with fiddling around with the exchange rate! See my report in BKK places to avoid. Vasu exchange is definitely a place to avoid![/QUOTE]Good that you say that. I have heard a story long time ago about wrong counting the dollar bills. I never experienced it myself. I went there to change small amounts when the trip to Superrich was not worth it.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1404433]Yep, Harold444,
You are the king of the cheap charlies, and my super-hero.
In reality. You are nothing more than a very very very big asshole. [May be not even that. ]
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey Big G,
Such a harsh judgement. Harold told a multi part story. Maybe you missed an earlier chapter or two as he has good reason to back away.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1404368]Imagine going after $7 last night cost her all this. Mind boggling!
LOse lose for both parties here. She was on her way to being my all time favorite, which also means big payday for her wo doing anything but being herself. I lose out on tons of fun (and again hot girls are not cheap).[/QUOTE]Sounds to me like you're in love, and worse, the bird knows it. The next 11 sessions are going to cost you big time.
[QUOTE=Western787;1404606]Sounds to me like you're in love, and worse, the bird knows it. The next 11 sessions are going to cost you big time.[/QUOTE]Harold444 in love? I thought he had a wallet in place of a heart? ;)
Took the train to the Bangkok airport. 70 baht for both trains. Then took the bus to our hotel. 250 baht. Left airport 15 minutes after 12 noon. Was in the hotel at 3pm. Had rooms reserved at the Rosie O'Grady hotel on soi 7. Normally 750 baht a night. We asked and one of the managers gave us a 700 baht a night rate if we stayed a week. Deal. Settled in and walked the beach. Ran into a street girl and she quoted me 700 baht for short time. I countered with 500 baht. She replied. 600 baht. I said nice to meet you and continued my search. Ten minutes later I ran into Bee. 26, friendly, chatty, short, shapely, dark, relaxed, BBBJ. 500 baht short time. I asked for nude photos and she agreed. For a tip and for me not to air them. 200 baht tip was worth the photos. The a / see in my room isn't great. Weak actually. When I went to the beach, the manager asked how was everything and I mentioned the weak a / see to him. He said he would send somebody up to look at it. I have not noticed a difference since I returned. It's 6:30 pm.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1404468]Checked out airline prices to fly to Jakarta, Indonesia. Was quoted $303 with one bag under 20 kilos and one 7 kilo carry on bag at a travel agent on soi 11. A little high I think.[/QUOTE]Travel agent? Come on dude this is 2013. I know you know how to use the internet because you posted that report. Cut out the middle man.
Flights from Bangkok, Thailand (BKK) to Jakarta, Indonesia (all airports)
Non-stop flights: 56 per day. 3h 33m duration.
Schedule of non-stop flights.
6:35 am 10:10 am BKK-CGK S M T W T F S Garuda Indonesia 865.
8:20 am 11:55 am BKK-CGK S M T W T F S Thai 433.
11:15 am 2:55 pm BKK-CGK - M T W - - - Mandala 901.
12:05 pm 3:40 pm BKK-CGK - - - - - F - Mandala 901.
12:05 pm 3:55 pm BKK-CGK S - - - T - S Mandala 901.
1:00 pm 4:25 pm BKK-CGK - - T - - F - Business Air 8921.
2:10 pm 5:45 pm BKK-CGK S M T W T F S Garuda Indonesia 867.
5:20 pm 8:55 pm BKK-CGK S M T W T F S Garuda Indonesia 869.
11:35 pm 3:00 am BKK-CGK - - - W - - S Business Air 8921.
Flights from Bangkok, Thailand (DMK) to Jakarta, Indonesia
11:25 am 2:45 pm DMK-CGK S M T W T F S AirAsia 8312.
8:55 pm 12:25 am DMK-CGK S M T W T F S AirAsia 8211
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1404143]I will never understand why someone would bf the same working girl for 11 times. Might as well marry her? This is BKK, correct? But I respect your decision.
Spaceman[/QUOTE]There is a SW I see just about every morning I am in town. She looks for me. Usually about 8am on Nana.
Why I see her? Because she is cute, fun, has a Jlo ass, licks my ass, sucks my cock, fucks me like the devil, and wants me to spray my "coconut juice" into her mouth and she eats it.
Good enough reason?
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1404659]Took the train to the Bangkok airport. 70 baht for both trains. Then took the bus to our hotel. 250 baht. Left airport 15 minutes after 12 noon. Was in the hotel at 3pm. Had rooms reserved at the Rosie O'Grady hotel on soi 7. Normally 750 baht a night. We asked and one of the managers gave us a 700 baht a night rate if we stayed a week. Deal. Settled in and walked the beach. Ran into a street girl and she quoted me 700 baht for short time. I countered with 500 baht. She replied. 600 baht. I said nice to meet you and continued my search. Ten minutes later I ran into Bee. 26, friendly, chatty, short, shapely, dark, relaxed, BBBJ. 500 baht short time. I asked for nude photos and she agreed. For a tip and for me not to air them. 200 baht tip was worth the photos. The a / see in my room isn't great. Weak actually. When I went to the beach, the manager asked how was everything and I mentioned the weak a / see to him. He said he would send somebody up to look at it. I have not noticed a difference since I returned. It's 6:30 pm.[/QUOTE]Do not know why you went to BKK airport. You should have gone to Ekamai and there are direct air con buses going to Pattaya every hour. Cost is about 150 Baht.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1404021]What does "best" mean to you?[/QUOTE]Fair question. I don't mind carrying my bags on a train so I was wondering if the train was faster and as convenient as a taxi. I know it's not door to door service, but if it's faster and cheaper then I would consider it over a taxi.
If a taxi is not much more $$ then I'll go that route.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1404718]Do not know why you went to BKK airport. You should have gone to Ekamai and there are direct air con buses going to Pattaya every hour. Cost is about 150 Baht.[/QUOTE]I'm flying into BKK from Kuala Lumpur in May. Coming directly from BKK to Pattaya (there are 4 people in our group). What is the best / easiest transportation for our group of 4 people?
Thanks, Gumbie
[QUOTE=Gumbie; 1404760]I'm flying into BKK from Kuala Lumpur in May. Coming directly from BKK to Pattaya (there are 4 people in our group). What is the best / easiest transportation for our group of 4 people?
Thanks, Gumbie[/QUOTE]Cheapest option is the bus from the airport to Jomtien and then take the bahtbus to central Pattaya. [url]http://www.airportpattayabus.com/2012/[/url] That will cost you less than 200 baht per person.
Most convenient is to take a taxi, but you will need two taxis for a group of 4. Estimated cost per person about 600 to 800 baht.
[QUOTE=Gumbie; 1404760]I'm flying into BKK from Kuala Lumpur in May. Coming directly from BKK to Pattaya (there are 4 people in our group). What is the best / easiest transportation for our group of 4 people?
Thanks, Gumbie[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.belltravelservice.com/pages/PageHome.aspx[/url]
If you book on the website you save about 75 cents
[QUOTE=Gg2002; 1404723]Fair question. I don't mind carrying my bags on a train so I was wondering if the train was faster and as convenient as a taxi. I know it's not door to door service, but if it's faster and cheaper then I would consider it over a taxi.
If a taxi is not much more $$ then I'll go that route.[/QUOTE]Fast, convenient and cheap: choose any two.
Most times of the day the train + BTS combination is faster unless you have to go to a part of Bangkok that is not easily reachable by BTS. Price about 150 baht.
The taxi is of course more convenient and except during rush hour only slightly slower than the train. From the airport to "our" sukhumvit area between 300 and 400 baht.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1404718]Do not know why you went to BKK airport. You should have gone to Ekamai and there are direct air con buses going to Pattaya every hour. Cost is about 150 Baht.[/QUOTE]124 baht to be exact.
[QUOTE=Gumbie; 1404760]I'm flying into BKK from Kuala Lumpur in May. Coming directly from BKK to Pattaya (there are 4 people in our group). What is the best / easiest transportation for our group of 4 people?
Thanks, Gumbie[/QUOTE]Email one of the taxi services and ask for a van for 2000 baht.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1404718]Do not know why you went to BKK airport. You should have gone to Ekamai and there are direct air con buses going to Pattaya every hour. Cost is about 150 Baht.[/QUOTE]Maybe not All Airlines Fly there
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1404793]Maybe not All Airlines Fly there[/QUOTE]Topic is bus transport to Pattaya, not airplanes.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1404802]Topic is bus transport to Pattaya, not airplanes.[/QUOTE]Can you read and understand this?
[Quote]Do not know why you went to BKK airport. You should have gone to Ekama[/quote][Quote]I'm flying into BKK from Kuala Lumpur in May.[/quote]Topic could even be airport, as far as I can see.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1404808]Can you read and understand this?
Topic could even be airport, as far as I can see.[/QUOTE]Oh boy. One guy said he went to airport to take the bus to Pattaya, another replies he should have took it at Ekkamai station.
We should move on now (smiles).
Yes, I hear you. I would do the same thing, but not 11 times!
However I respect your choice.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1404708]There is a SW I see just about every morning I am in town. She looks for me. Usually about 8am on Nana.
Why I see her? Because she is cute, fun, has a Jlo ass, licks my ass, sucks my cock, fucks me like the devil, and wants me to spray my "coconut juice" into her mouth and she eats it.
Good enough reason?[/QUOTE]
Come back from a 20 day trip tp to yangoon, BKK, Pattaya so for anyones interest I will offer my views regarding and in comparison to with each place.
Yangoon.
Hotels are over priced and for what you get terribly standards, Food wise I don't like the taste is better than laos or Cambodia but because it has a indian influence its not to my likeing. Transport wise its not that great but due to the smaller size its acceptable.
Day time activities, are limited, tried the massage and its not good and not worth the money conpared to vn.
Not many options for ST, but LT is the winner compared to vn, and beats most places except AC. Go to JJ entertainment and you can get 18-20yr old freelancers fro 50k or about 56usd. These girls are very innocent and cute, ud have to be a real ugly troll not to have these girls fight to get your attention. So go yangoon if LT is your thing.
Bangkok.
The usual places I used to stay was around sukumvit, but now as the place is being invaded by girls backpacking and couples and groups on vacations I have now decided to avoid it as the hotel have gone up in price due to all the increased demand.
I checked out nana, and whilst I agree there are alot of cuties in rainbow 4, I wasnt preparted to pay 500BF. 2000st and have the st last 30-45mins due to of the japs and other asians, tho I saw plenty of white guys take from rb4 as well.
The other bars also contained come cuties but nothing that would say exceeded the quality found in SK.
I checked out thermae, the girls ages have gone up and the quality down, the older gals asking 1000St or more I overheard a guy being quoted 2000St.
Beergarden was quite bad with the older girls wanting 1000St def not my tasstes.
I checked out Baccara in soi cowboy, and again like my comments on rb definately some cuties there but nothing that would make me pay 600bf. 2000st, like all the japs and ang moh who left with girls.
Where I spent most of my time was in SK, the biggest club had very similar girls to those found at nana and cowboy, I agree definately not in the same huge numbers but whilst I was in Bangkok I took 4 girls. 1 for LT the otehr ST, I paid between 1500-1800ST, and 2000LT. The st usually lasted 1-1. 5hrs I never felt rushed and I got kissing, DATY a decent BJ wouldn't say the best BJ and as many positions as I wanted. I never feklt rushed. So I would definatly go there again even when the largest club recently increeased it to 2000 ST.
Bangkok soapies 2000-7000 price range again for 1. 5 service not a bad option defe some cuties in the 2000, the higher priced range offers companionship supposedly they uni students part timers or otehr maketing.
Pattaya.
TYhis place is now fulled with Chinese tour gps, Russian holiday makers and generally lots of couples with kids, so this has made accodation choises limited and the cost going up, howver you can still find good guest houses.
The beer bars generally has older and uglier women and supposedly tehy are asking fro 1000+300bf, I saw none that really would make it work me paying that.
The gogo bars the girls are definately BKK standards, in the past BKK gogo bars the girls def better than patttaya but now I would say they are on par. But now the cost of girls has gone up in Pattaya 600bf and 2000St tho I got the feeling I could reduce down to 1500ST.
That being said there isn't much difference between pricing of Pattaya.
The coconut bar. Filled with oldies and ladybodys. The old ones are asking 700ST the cute ones 1000St, again none that really made me feel I should take.
The off duty gogobars found at the discos supposedly at 5-6am you can get girls for 1000LT ie 6-12noon. Again this isn't my style as I'm a bonk moning person and if I have spent the whole nite hunting I wouldn't be in the mood to bonk at that time just so I can save money.
I don't like disco, in my mind nothing is sadder than going into a disco and seeing a 40-50yr old man trying to relive his youth in a disco, regardless if he is with syt or not, call me narrow minded but its not something I think is a good look.
So in Pattaya I spent most of my time in soi 6 with gogo quality gals, sure you have to look to find them, and tehre has to be a measure of luck, but there I got unruished sessions for 700+300barfine and use of their ST rooms. The type of girls I like may not have big tits, may not speak any english, may not be tall and may not be fair, and so often they CMI in ang moh or jap orientated bars, but iof anyone has met me or seen the girls I like, they will no I'm not one to fish from the bottom of the barrell.
Pattay soapies 2000-3000 range in my view the girls same pricing as BKK but lower quality so not worth the effort.
In my time in thai, I got a GFE 90% of the time in vn its 60-70% of the time, LT are expensive in Vn St and BJ are the bargains.
Over all I like the advantages I have here in vn but trips to thai and AC are a definate must. In June ill go to sumatra and revisit indonesian gals and ill report my findings
[QUOTE=Harold444;1404911]2000 st at R2, 2500 st at R4-whats the deal with that. R4 girls are not 25% better in quality! Or anotheor way R2 girls are not 20% less in quality than R4 girls.[/QUOTE]These Rainbow girls are such a bad value these days. About 8-9 years ago, I paid girls 1000 ST, gradually 5 years ago. 1500, then become 2000 since about 3 years ago, and now some girls are pushing 2500, I am sure it will be a trend in all Rainbows in a year or 2.
I was in R1, 2.4 about 2 weeks ago. I talked a few girls, and the 2000 seem to be the standard, except a few cuties in R4, they want 2. 5k, but I think even these cute ones would go at 2k if you bargain for it, because they will be back in the bar in 30 min, they probably won't even want to leave the Nana premise.
I have not bar fined any Rainbow girl for a long time. 3000-4000 total for a ST without much service and usually rushing and mediocre attitude do not really justify the money, these places are now solely for newbie tourists.
The most recent Stickman Weekly article reports that the new owners of NEP are transforming the plaza into ladyboys only. There will be no female go-go dancers at all! Apparently the existing ladyboy establishments are thriving while the bars with girls are having great difficulty finding good looking girls and are languishing. Stickman also reports that about half the guys booking short time hotel rooms are with ladyboys. Supposedly the owners are in discussions with owners of ladyboy bars in other locations to relocate their bar to NEP; and the go-go girls working at NEP will move to Soi Cowboy (which will have only female go-go dancers) , Patpong and even Pattaya.
Has anyone else heard anything about this?
[QUOTE=MutantChicken; 1405083]Come back from a 20 day trip tp to yangoon, BKK, Pattaya so for anyones interest I will offer my views regarding and in comparison to with each place.
Yangoon.
Hotels are over priced and for what you get terribly standards, Food wise I don't like the taste is better than laos or Cambodia but because it has a indian influence its not to my likeing. Transport wise its not that great but due to the smaller size its acceptable.
Day time activities, are limited, tried the massage and its not good and not worth the money conpared to vn.
Not many options for ST, but LT is the winner compared to vn, and beats most places except AC. Go to JJ entertainment and you can get 18-20yr old freelancers fro 50k or about 56usd. These girls are very innocent and cute, ud have to be a real ugly troll not to have these girls fight to get your attention. So go yangoon if LT is your thing.
Bangkok.
The usual places I used to stay was around sukumvit, but now as the place is being invaded by girls backpacking and couples and groups on vacations I have now decided to avoid it as the hotel have gone up in price due to all the increased demand.
I checked out nana, and whilst I agree there are alot of cuties in rainbow 4, I wasnt preparted to pay 500BF. 2000st and have the st last 30-45mins due to of the japs and other asians, tho I saw plenty of white guys take from rb4 as well.
The other bars also contained come cuties but nothing that would say exceeded the quality found in SK.
I checked out thermae, the girls ages have gone up and the quality down, the older gals asking 1000St or more I overheard a guy being quoted 2000St.
Beergarden was quite bad with the older girls wanting 1000St def not my tasstes.
I checked out Baccara in soi cowboy, and again like my comments on rb definately some cuties there but nothing that would make me pay 600bf. 2000st, like all the japs and ang moh who left with girls.
Where I spent most of my time was in SK, the biggest club had very similar girls to those found at nana and cowboy, I agree definately not in the same huge numbers but whilst I was in Bangkok I took 4 girls. 1 for LT the otehr ST, I paid between 1500-1800ST, and 2000LT. The st usually lasted 1-1. 5hrs I never felt rushed and I got kissing, DATY a decent BJ wouldn't say the best BJ and as many positions as I wanted. I never feklt rushed. So I would definatly go there again even when the largest club recently increeased it to 2000 ST.
Bangkok soapies 2000-7000 price range again for 1. 5 service not a bad option defe some cuties in the 2000, the higher priced range offers companionship supposedly they uni students part timers or otehr maketing.
Pattaya.
TYhis place is now fulled with Chinese tour gps, Russian holiday makers and generally lots of couples with kids, so this has made accodation choises limited and the cost going up, howver you can still find good guest houses.
The beer bars generally has older and uglier women and supposedly tehy are asking fro 1000+300bf, I saw none that really would make it work me paying that.
The gogo bars the girls are definately BKK standards, in the past BKK gogo bars the girls def better than patttaya but now I would say they are on par. But now the cost of girls has gone up in Pattaya 600bf and 2000St tho I got the feeling I could reduce down to 1500ST.
That being said there isn't much difference between pricing of Pattaya.
The coconut bar. Filled with oldies and ladybodys. The old ones are asking 700ST the cute ones 1000St, again none that really made me feel I should take.
The off duty gogobars found at the discos supposedly at 5-6am you can get girls for 1000LT ie 6-12noon. Again this isn't my style as I'm a bonk moning person and if I have spent the whole nite hunting I wouldn't be in the mood to bonk at that time just so I can save money.
I don't like disco, in my mind nothing is sadder than going into a disco and seeing a 40-50yr old man trying to relive his youth in a disco, regardless if he is with syt or not, call me narrow minded but its not something I think is a good look.
So in Pattaya I spent most of my time in soi 6 with gogo quality gals, sure you have to look to find them, and tehre has to be a measure of luck, but there I got unruished sessions for 700+300barfine and use of their ST rooms. The type of girls I like may not have big tits, may not speak any english, may not be tall and may not be fair, and so often they CMI in ang moh or jap orientated bars, but iof anyone has met me or seen the girls I like, they will no I'm not one to fish from the bottom of the barrell.
Pattay soapies 2000-3000 range in my view the girls same pricing as BKK but lower quality so not worth the effort.
In my time in thai, I got a GFE 90% of the time in vn its 60-70% of the time, LT are expensive in Vn St and BJ are the bargains.
Over all I like the advantages I have here in vn but trips to thai and AC are a definate must. In June ill go to sumatra and revisit indonesian gals and ill report my findings[/QUOTE]Where is Yangoon, where is SK.
Thanks.
Chris
Just arrived in Bangkok and gave soap massage places and freelance places a closer look. Here is my report (some nice information taken from "BangkokRedEye" online) :
I headed over to Huay Kwang district where I found the better soapy massage parlors. (MRT subway train). The fare cost 22THB and last about 10 minutes. When you reach Huay Kwang station follow the signs to Exit #3. I met all the massage parlors on the main street (Emanuelle, Nataree, The Lord and Alaina). Establishments charged between 2300 and 5500THB for 90min. In Alaina there was only ONE girl at 7pm, although it is supossedly the best time. They said because of Sunday. But this can't be really true as the other places were filled, especially The Lord and Nataree. Nataree was absolutely crazy, like 25 girls sitting on chairs as all the couches were taken, and also the fishbowl had some girls. Although the worst ones.
Got a nice were tiny and skinny girl there for 2600, with no stress and decent 90min. Yet massage was short, unprofessional and no body to body. Had the feeling she wanted to end quickly. The rooms in Nataree are borderline. Not really nice, but I was not there for a hotel experience.
Emanuelle was also good, with some very nice "Large" and "XL" girls (that's the way they term their girls quality). Yet I was unwilling to pay 4000-5000 for a second shot after just coming form Nataree (not fully loaded yet. .
I therefore headed back to Sukhumvit by MRT and checked the famous freelance place "Thermae Bar" in basement of the Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel. Not too many girls there at 8pm (around 15) but at 10pm the place was full and very cute ones were appearing. Unfortunately I already made a pick before when I wanted to leave the place, otherwise I made have chosen differently. Damage was 2000 for very nice GFE and 2hrs staying together taking this and that (actually important to me, don't want to just "unload" and kick her out). LT for tomorrow is set at 4000. Let's see if also want.
Thereafter I also checked Nana Hotel's parking lot in Sukhumvit. And Indeed as suggested by BangkokRedEye there are lots and lots of girls there even around midnight. Just had the feeling that midnight might be too late for a super pick, as girls seemed to come back from other customers. And mixing with lots of ladyboys at Nana. Still you could find the one or other cutie. Didn't ask for prices though. Probably was afraid to not be able to say no then, and finally ending up with an embarassing and expensive massage only in the hotel after 2 shots already.
Will check tomorrow again what I do. Yet, the nice one from Thermae Bar is already following me and I do not dare to already decide for LT with here. Too many cuties of other kind around EVERYWHERE.
I just wonder if I should leave the area at all. Pattaya with sea and beaches is an option. But is it same quality and even better price there? As I prefer freelances I might be better off here in BGK. Right?
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi;1405221]I therefore headed back to Sukhumvit by MRT and checked the famous freelance place "Thermae Bar" in basement of the Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel. Not too many girls there at 8pm (around 15) but at 10pm the place was full and very cute ones were appearing. I just wonder if I should leave the area at all. Pattaya with sea and beaches is an option. But is it same quality and even better price there? As I prefer freelances I might be better off here in BGK. Right?[/QUOTE]I am like you and cater mostly the freelancemarket for p4p experience. Nice to finaly read some nice report from Thermae as well as I lately amongst the ISG crowd in here get the impression Thermae have turned into an all asian monger hub only dealing with chineese, korean and japanese crowd. Not true from my experience as I have had no problem going to Thermae getting girls for LT use even from the left line of women as well. From where inside did you pick your girl? I have never been in Thermae at your early hours I have mostly campaigned the venue in the after midnight hours. But good going. Nice to hear.
I would state that pattis is a tad cheaper for freelancegirls than BKK. But I don't know how pricesensitive you are and how hard you bargain. I hardly ever quote prices but pay at the end some money normaly 2-3000 in Pattaya for LT`s. In BKK I have more or less landed (in my head) a 3000 LT fare for freelancers picked up from nightclubs and a tad less for more streetlookalikepickups (but session have to be from good to excellent). NB! Spasso live its own life and it is a hidden agreement girls are normaly beeing paid around 5000 for LT take outs. Coyotedancinggirls from Mixxclub normaly don't go with customers but can be had for approx same ammount as Spasso. Please note hotties from both places can be had cheaper if you run into them in different locations. But I guess it is also a "each to his own" factor at stake here.
ST sessions I don't use so much with Beergarden beeing an exception for daytime poppings (1-2000 is fine).
In pattis Beachroadgirls runs from 500 to 1500 for ST`s. I have only had 2 Beachroad girls on two separate occations for turbo poppings lasting a maximum of only 10 minutes (pressure relief from my pipeline only) and I believe I just handed 500 or 1000. For each the girls.
The girls operating in typical mongerareas in LOS are mostly from same region so in that way not so big difference. I myself like BKK more as it has the international twist beeing a big big international city and all that crap where you have unlimited opertuneties from the lowest streetwalker to the hi so moviestar models. Pattaya have more beerbars but here you normaly will have to barfine I guess. My impression, and I underline this is my subjective meaning, is that freelancers in BKK in general are a bit more classy and not so hardned in the sexbusiness(maby more part time freelancing as also have daytime job). I feel also in general girls are better looking in BKK but this is a very thin ice statement and almost impossible to give a qualified evaluation regarding this. But I guess fresh farmgirls arrive everyday in both Pattis / BKK. Well my impression anyway. Just go to both places and see for yourself.
Pattaya: a bit cheaper Bangkok: the international bigcity feel (maby I am sensitive as my biggest city is Oslo, hehe)
[QUOTE=Skogis;1405243]I hardly ever quote prices but pay at the end some money normaly 2-3000 in Pattaya for LT`s.[/QUOTE]This can be a dangerous strategy. You get a girl who thinks she is worth more and you might end up with the a smashed up room and a police report.
I've read stories about girls calling the police and demanding something like 10, 000. But honestly, this can happen even if you pre-negotiate price.
My strategy is to make an offer once I know what the going rate is for the area, and not to ask the price. If you ask and she says 3000, and you counter with 2500, she will lose face to accept it.
Thanks a lot for the info. This helps. I almost expected something of that kind. So I will see if I can run on a small pool for a week instead of sea.
Actually I did not pick up my girl IN Therame Bar but on my way out I saw a nice girl preparing and directly took the chance and talked to her. We then went again in together. Actually when you come in from the mainstreet the left line looked really nice later at night. But what`s special about that? I would not have noticed a systematic quality difference left to right to anywhere.
And yes, there are some asian guys in there, but I did not have the impression that THEY run the place. Perhaps some guys are a bit asia-phobic when it comes to guys.
I also noticed that you write of daygame. You mean Beergarden in Soi Sukhumvit 5 is a good option? Any other daygame places around?
[QUOTE=Skogis;1405243]ST sessions I don't use so much with Beergarden beeing an exception for daytime poppings (1-2000 is fine).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi;1405259]I also noticed that you write of daygame. You mean Beergarden in Soi Sukhumvit 5 is a good option? Any other daygame places around?[/QUOTE]Playing daygames in lower Sukhumvit area are best after my experience in Beergarden (BG) Soi 7 and Gullivers Soi? (maby more early afternoon games). On the odd numbered Sukhumvit from 3-15 you can run into a few streetwalkers as well and Elena allways sitting outside Subway. There are also a lot of MP next to Villa Market Soi 11 and I hear people do take outs from these MP's for an advanced lunchbreak, hehe.
In Beergarden you will never find the most stunning beauties in Bangkok. But in my exp it is a decent crowd and you can get lucky and run into a rare 9. I use this place as a middaylocation to relieve some pressure so I am not hunting for the best GFE and only ST ofcourse. Fast in and fast out buying a beer just to be nice. I have actually almost only good sessions from BG and girls are friendly. So for pussypounding only a perfect and easy place. Atleast if you live close by.
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1405259]Thanks a lot for the info. This helps. I almost expected something of that kind. So I will see if I can run on a small pool for a week instead of sea.
Actually I did not pick up my girl IN Therame Bar but on my way out I saw a nice girl preparing and directly took the chance and talked to her. We then went again in together. Actually when you come in from the mainstreet the left line looked really nice later at night. But what`s special about that? I would not have noticed a systematic quality difference left to right to anywhere.
And yes, there are some asian guys in there, but I did not have the impression that THEY run the place. Perhaps some guys are a bit asia-phobic when it comes to guys.
I also noticed that you write of daygame. You mean Beergarden in Soi Sukhumvit 5 is a good option? Any other daygame places around?[/QUOTE]In Thermae, it seems the hotter, younger women are on the left. And the older, worn out women are on the right.
It's not impossible to score a woman in Thermae, but scoring a hot young girl is much more difficult if you are not Asian.
Someone pointed out earlier that it may be a size thing. If you are a big guy (body) , like me, then they are less likely to go with you. However, if you are small and / or young, then they are more likely to go.
The timing might be part of it as well. It sounds like you got a girl that was about to try another venue.
just got in last night.
flight: thai air from lax. this flight stops in seoul for about 1 hour. i usually take united, but wanted to try thai. i was in economy and service is fantastic. they are always feeding you and serving drinks. they served 3 full meals and a snack. they even clean the bathrooms during the flight. the flight arrived 2 minutes early at 1148pm.
immigration: i think they have made big improvements. it use to be a cluster fuck with a huge crowd and twisted unorganized lines.
the place is fully staffed and organized now the dividers for the line. there were several other flights coming in, but i got through there in about 10 minutes!
took a huge shit after all that food on the plane and exchanged some money.
taxi: i looked down from arrival area and saw a big line for taxis. it usually goes fast, but i was not in the mood, so i went to the arrival level and a dude just pulled up with a drop. i asked him."nana" and he said no problem. traffic was light. the fare was my lowest ever. 197 b plus 35 for the toll. gave him 250. he got to dynasty grand on soi 6 in about 23 minutes.
it took me less than an hour from touch down to soi 6. that is very quick from my experience.
pussy: i checked in and hit nana. there were probably 40 girls just near the parking lot. in my opinion, many were young and decent. i was surprised how many there were. i walked by twice and saw a real cutie. very short, petite. probably 4-11 and 95 pounds. her name was nok age 25. i approached and ask her what she would do for me lt. she said,"anything you want but not ass". i clarified the "anything", grabbed her hand and to my hotel we went. she looked so good naked and had a great body and cute face. she took care of me last night and this morning. she held on to me the whole time we slept. very nice girl. she said 1500 and i gave her 2k. i took a photo of her but cannot get the fucking thing to load for some reason.
after nok left, i had some breakfast and headed over to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. it was about 9am and 3 girls were out front. i chose bim.
she is thin and cute. i think one of the cuter girls i have seen at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. she stripped nude and had no problem with full roaming.
slow bbbjcim. 800 b.
i have 2 appts. this afternoon with thai ll girls. just for coffee, so we will see how it goes.
god, i love this town!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1405353]Took a huge shit after all that food on the plane.
![/QUOTE]As in "too much information ".
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1405353]Just got in last night.
Taxi: I looked down from arrival area and saw a big line for taxis. It usually goes fast, but I was not in the mood, so I went to the arrival level and a dude just pulled up with a drop. I asked him."Nana" and he said no problem. Traffic was light. The fare was my lowest ever. 197 B plus 35 for the toll. Gave him 250. He got to Dynasty Grand on Soi 6 in about 23 minutes.
God, I love this Town![/QUOTE]Wondering what way he drove. Usually toll is 25+45. If you get out via Soi 23 it is 25 only. But never heard of a 35b. Toll gate.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1405353]Just got in last night.
I have 2 appts. This afternoon with Thai LL girls. Just for coffee, so we will see how it goes.
God, I love this Town![/QUOTE]Good start! What do you mean with Thai LL girls? Dating site?
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1405193]The most recent Stickman Weekly article reports that the new owners of NEP are transforming the plaza into ladyboys only. There will be no female go-go dancers at all! Apparently the existing ladyboy establishments are thriving while the bars with girls are having great difficulty finding good looking girls and are languishing. Stickman also reports that about half the guys booking short time hotel rooms are with ladyboys. Supposedly the owners are in discussions with owners of ladyboy bars in other locations to relocate their bar to NEP; and the go-go girls working at NEP will move to Soi Cowboy (which will have only female go-go dancers) , Patpong and even Pattaya.
Has anyone else heard anything about this?[/QUOTE]I am not 100% about this. If you notice he did aplogise for not meeting his normal 6pm deadline, but he say that the deadline was 6 hours and 1 minute late = 1 minute past midnight (April Fools Day.)
But hey, I could be wrong. Just think all those LB's in one place heee heeeeeeee
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1405379]Good start! What do you mean with Thai LL girls? Dating site?[/QUOTE]Thai Love Links. Com.
Very popular site.
Some small update, also tried climax yesterday night. Already closed at 2. 30, am.
Got a cheap 1500 last encounter as I had to choose quickly.
Today I tried Beergarden for day game. Indeed some ladies there (20 at 2pm) , yet most in their late twenties and up. Still for a 1000 afternoon nooner it was ok, As she immediately agreed on the offer I wonder if I could have pushed the price any further. But I think I would not even feel good then.
At least the service was nice and without time pressure.
Let's see what's next up.
[quote=luvpuss; 1405353]just got in last night.
flight: thai air from lax. this flight stops in seoul for about 1 hour. i usually take united, but wanted to try thai. i was in economy and service is fantastic. they are always feeding you and serving drinks. they served 3 full meals and a snack. they even clean the bathrooms during the flight. the flight arrived 2 minutes early at 1148pm.
immigration: i think they have made big improvements. it use to be a cluster fuck with a huge crowd and twisted unorganized lines.
the place is fully staffed and organized now the dividers for the line. there were several other flights coming in, but i got through there in about 10 minutes!
took a huge shit after all that food on the plane and exchanged some money.
taxi: i looked down from arrival area and saw a big line for taxis. it usually goes fast, but i was not in the mood, so i went to the arrival level and a dude just pulled up with a drop. i asked him."nana" and he said no problem. traffic was light. the fare was my lowest ever. 197 b plus 35 for the toll. gave him 250. he got to dynasty grand on soi 6 in about 23 minutes.
it took me less than an hour from touch down to soi 6. that is very quick from my experience.
pussy: i checked in and hit nana. there were probably 40 girls just near the parking lot. in my opinion, many were young and decent. i was surprised how many there were. i walked by twice and saw a real cutie. very short, petite. probably 4-11 and 95 pounds. her name was nok age 25. i approached and ask her what she would do for me lt. she said,"anything you want but not ass". i clarified the "anything", grabbed her hand and to my hotel we went. she looked so good naked and had a great body and cute face. she took care of me last night and this morning. she held on to me the whole time we slept. very nice girl. she said 1500 and i gave her 2k. i took a photo of her but cannot get the fucking thing to load for some reason.
after nok left, i had some breakfast and headed over to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. it was about 9am and 3 girls were out front. i chose bim.
she is thin and cute. i think one of the cuter girls i have seen at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. she stripped nude and had no problem with full roaming.
slow bbbjcim. 800 b.
i have 2 appts. this afternoon with thai ll girls. just for coffee, so we will see how it goes.
god, i love this town![/quote]i had the same nice experience on thai air out of lax a few months ago. but, i don't remember anything special about my loaf pinching.
always nice to have luvpuss in town. like daily reports from bukowski.
[QUOTE=RBDave; 1405247]This can be a dangerous strategy. You get a girl who thinks she is worth more and you might end up with the a smashed up room and a police report.
I've read stories about girls calling the police and demanding something like 10, 000. But honestly, this can happen even if you pre-negotiate price.
My strategy is to make an offer once I know what the going rate is for the area, and not to ask the price. If you ask and she says 3000, and you counter with 2500, she will lose face to accept it.[/QUOTE]I have done this for approx 7 years now and except 1 girl and one LB I did not experience any trouble whatsoever. Most girls walk out happy. What I find strange at times is that surprisingly many of them don't even check their bag where I usualy put the money while the girls are having the aftersexshower routine.
I do put some effort in presession interviews and socialice and drink with the girls creating a good mood. Maby that is why I don't have encountered to much trouble doing what I do?
Thailand To Change From Left To Right Hand Driving.
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/630001-thailand-to-change-from-left-to-right-hand-driving/?utm_source=newsletter-20130401-1109&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news[/url]
[QUOTE=TConor; 1405498]Thailand To Change From Left To Right Hand Driving.
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/630001-thailand-to-change-from-left-to-right-hand-driving/?utm_source=newsletter-20130401-1109&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news[/url][/QUOTE]1 of April maby. A special day in some countries. Hehe.
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1405455].
Let's see what's next up.[/QUOTE]Okay, for now two little adventures. First at beergarden (Sukhumvit Soi 7; NOT 7/1 which is the first street coming from Sukhumvit 11) , I wrote about earlier. 1000 damage.
At 19:00 I then went back to Nana parking lot and got another freelance. I checked in the bar for some time and that chose a very tall and thin girl looking cute. When I asked her for the price I was very surprised that she only asked 1200- I tried 1000- which also was no problem (I paid 1200 at the end though, as she honestly told me that she always tries 1200 first.).
Really nice body, super soft skin. But I understood afterwards why. Baby belly and sucked out baby breasts. If you know what I mean. Still a very nice girl, the kind every European would turn if you encounter her at home somewhere. There really is a LUXURY (body) problem here.
Now I will go for another LT for 3000 and see if it is worth it. Just have to take care that the girl does not becoming to "girlfriendy". Already starts asking what I was doing during the day.
Something else guys. Does anybody know if (see) Cialis is the real product which you can buy on the streets. The deal they made was 2000 for ten packages (that is. 40 pills; or 250 one package as first called price). Is that reasonable? No way I can otherwise keep up the current pace.
Are places like the Lord, Copacabana, Long beach and Victorias Secret truly upper end? Or a place reserved to fool farangs and avoided by local thai men?
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi;1405535]Something else guys. Does anybody know if (see) Cialis is the real product which you can buy on the streets. The deal they made was 2000 for ten packages (that is. 40 pills; or 250 one package as first called price). Is that reasonable? No way I can otherwise keep up the current pace.[/QUOTE]I would never buy these kind of products on the streets. Go to the pharmacy instead and buy Kamagra gel instead. Works really quick (15-20 mins).
[QUOTE=Skogis;1405508]1 of April maby. A special day in some countries. Hehe.[/QUOTE]Despite the "article" is written in a way to not be believed, tens of TV forumites did not passed on the occasion to trumpet two of their favorites clicques: How stupid Thais are are, and how poorly they drive. Speaks volumes about the average IQ of the Thailand expats.
Then we say that is "them" having prejudices.
Had a foot message for 180 baht ($6).5:30pm I walked the beach and met the. 29, BBBJ, big smile, good service. 500 baht. The best part was during our time together she smiled and said I made honey and giggled. And when I finished. She said I had big power! Those two comments were worth the $15. Later that night went to club Lucifers and had a beer at 170 baht. Then about 1am we went to the Marine club (techno music). Had a few beers there at I think 120 baht each. Don't know how I did it, but I got flipped off three times by two different girls. Drinking, be-bopping and pow. Hate crime, hehe. Got to love it. Left about 6am. Looked down and Maam. 30, was on my arm. Ok. She asked. Go with you? I said 500 baht. She said 1000. I said 600. She said 700. Ok, deal. So so performance, wanted me to take her out and feed her after we finished (nope). She tried to use my laptop and go online but the internet was down at that moment. It was about 9am or so when I let her out and went to sleep.
Up at 3pm. Exchanged some money at 29. 15 to 1 USD. Picked up laundry from a few days of at 105 baht. Had lunch at the mall. 90 baht. Picked up a Thai book for beginners for 300 baht. Walked the beach and met Pay Pay. 30, BBBJ. 500 baht. So-so service. Just got in from oil message. 250 baht with 30 baht tip. Getting ready to walk the beach.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1405572] I walked the beach and met the. 29, BBBJ, big smile, good service. 500 baht.[/QUOTE]Since when BKK has a Beach? I might have missed it ten days ago, damn!
If you are into chalk or some other inert ingredient (s) than go for it. I'd not touch any street vendors pharmacy crap.
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1405535]SNIPPED.
Something else guys. Does anybody know if (see) Cialis is the real product which you can buy on the streets. The deal they made was 2000 for ten packages (that is. 40 pills; or 250 one package as first called price). Is that reasonable? No way I can otherwise keep up the current pace.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nick Depalma;1405538]Are places like the Lord, Copacabana, Long beach and Victorias Secret truly upper end? Or a place reserved to fool farangs and avoided by local thai men?[/QUOTE]These are examples of the soapy massage parlors that cater primarily to Thai men. The nicest of these are luxurious compared to Annie's, Tulip, Mango and Snow White. The largest are the size of hotels. They contain bars, restaurants, cabarets and nice suites in which several men can be entertained by several ladies. Supposedly the ladies reflect the tastes of Thai men. You will not get a PSE in one of these establishments. Nor will farangs get a GFE. In fact, farangs pay a THB500 to THB1000 surcharge on top of the girls normal rates. The surcharge is supposed to be because farangs are larger than Thai men. Many of the ladies at these establishment have no experience with farangs and are reluctant when they are selected by one. This is not a problem with all the ladies at these establishments. As to rates, they vary. The fish bowl girls are a couple thousand bahts. Other more expensive girls called sideliners, may cost two to three times as much. Here's a useful link.
[url]http://www.bangkokredeye.com/bangkok-soapy-massage.html[/url]
They're worth at least one visit for the experience. Generally I will hit one when I'm in town. Personally, I like Poseidon, Emanuelle and The Lord, but Nataree, which is relatively small and run down has its fans (though I think it is based on past reputation.) Colonze 2 is reputed to be farange friendly.
Good catch! This post should have been in the Pattaya section. Sorry for the mix up!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1405378]Wondering what way he drove. Usually toll is 25+45. If you get out via Soi 23 it is 25 only. But never heard of a 35b. Toll gate.[/QUOTE]Ok. I must of just misunderstood him then. He only took one toll then got off. But it seemed faster than taking the other toll.
Also, yes TLL is Thai love link.
I actually overbooked with these girls and had to cancel one last night I was too tired. (but ended going to Nana anyway) She was cute too, but oh well. I am suppose to meet another at the mall for lunch today.
In my opinion the quality of the SW at Nana is actually getting better. Seems like many young and petite girls out last night. About 40 of them from McDonald's down past the car lot.
I snagged a cute one age 23 for 1k and took her to D1 ST hotel 300 B. Good GFE and cute face small body. Very pleased.
I went to Annie's to check it out. I don't want to bad mouth this place much because it is an institution. I am usually really not overly particular, but the girls were not impressive. There were about 25 I would say. Not one seemed younger than 30. All were big bodied and just not that attractive. Not one was petite and looked in shape. I just think for the price and history of this place there would be better options. I left. Sorry Aey.
Hit up several of the Nana Gogo's. Rainbow's was packed. But, just my opinion, the SW's I saw were as good as these girls. Most of them seemed really bored and disinterested. So how good are they going to fuck then? I don't know, for me it is fun to just have a drink, listen to the music, and watch their tits bounce around.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1405469]Just extended my tourist visa by the 30 days. One more month of BKK non-sense. LOL.
I wonder whats it like to pay 1000 and think you overpaid.
Sometimes I wish I could be attracted to the 1000 and below crowd. LOL. You guys surely must be getting great value for your baht.
Whats up nex you ask. Go barfine some Rainbow girls and give us a report. You got to give it a try. LOL. Never know what you will come up with ther. Wold be nice to hear feedback from a fresh perspective- a straight shooter like yourself.[/QUOTE]I would have no problem taking and paying for a Rainbow gal, but is she going to let me do her multiple times in 90 min, rim me, gargle with my j*zz, f*ck me like she is in a "sex movie" or like a dude she loves, etc? Probably not. Nope, she is going to want to get out as soon as she can. It is getting harder and harder to find gals that look great and are nasty PSE performers. I think many of us would pay whatever would have to to get this experience.
Hi,
I heard Thai girls do not like having sex with girls. But my French girlfriend and I will be in two weeks in BKK and south for 7 days. My girlfriend and me would like to meet a really cute girl Thai that would like to have fun with us. 42yrs old, and may be even come with us in a trip South (but not Pattaya or Phukket). Any idea? Where to look? Any contact? I will be fun.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1405806]I would have no problem taking and paying for a Rainbow gal, but is she going to let me do her multiple times in 90 min, rim me, gargle with my j*zz, f*ck me like she is in a "sex movie" or like a dude she loves, etc? Probably not. Nope, she is going to want to get out as soon as she can. It is getting harder and harder to find gals that look great and are nasty PSE performers. I think many of us would pay whatever would have to to get this experience.[/QUOTE]Many of you will scoff at me for writing this and claim it is not necessary to pay over THB1000 for a SW, but a real option is to call Bangkok Gold and tell Goldie or her husband what you describe above is what you're looking for. It will cost you THB6000 for two hours, but you say you're willing to pay whatever is necessary.
Bangkok Gold has very attractive girls who will give you everything you're looking for.
"let me do her multiple times in 90 min". There are no limits to the number of shots and the girls do not watch the clock. I've booked them for 8 hours and they've stayed a couple hours over without my asking.
"gargle with my j*zz". BBBJ with CIM is standard. You may have to tell the girl you specifically want her to gargle with your cum. I'd tell Goldie this is one of the tricks I'm looking for so she would let the girl know in advance.
"f*ck me like she is in a "sex movie" or like a dude she loves". All the girls offer PSE or GFE as you prefer. Just ask Goldie to tell the girl which you want. With the GFE you will get lots of passionate DFK, real enough to make you believe the girl adores you. You get anal at no extra charge from the girls who offer it (clearly stated on the website.)
"look great". Every girl I've booked has been at least as attractive as the top go-go girls.
On top of all this, they have a great attitude. I have no doubt their goal is to leave you a very satisfied man.
I base these statements on numerous personal experiences.
When I'm in Bangkok I hit the MPs, BF a couple of go-go girls and pick up a couple of FLs because they are so inexpensive; but I also make sure I book a couple of Goldie's girls because while the former are hit and miss, I know everyone of her girls will leave me 100% satisfied.
[QUOTE=TConor; 1405498]Thailand To Change From Left To Right Hand Driving.
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/630001-thailand-to-change-from-left-to-right-hand-driving/?utm_source=newsletter-20130401-1109&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news[/url][/QUOTE]
Great joke, but I am still laughing at Stickman's April fools gag last year, when he reported on supposed pending new "foreign service" regulations.
Among the new rules was this gem:
"The second new regulation which, will also be put in place early in second half of the year, requires hotels to register sex workers accompanying a foreign customer to his hotel. The hotel must register her, meaning she must have a Foreign Service worker's Card. What is interesting is that the hotel is required to include her details, alongside those of the customer when it completes its daily visitor report to Immigration.
Every hotel in Thailand is required to report to the Immigration Department on a daily basis all foreigners staying in the hotel. The report includes the guest's name, nationality and passport number. This system has been in place for a long time. The new regulations mean that the sex worker's details must be recorded to show that she spent time with the foreign national. Essentially, these details are added to the foreign visitor's Immigration record, and not a central database of the Foreign Service Worker Card holders!
These regulations ONLY relate to sex workers engaging with foreign nationals and do not apply to Thai men."
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Naughty-Boys-Hell.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1405738]In my opinion the quality of the SW at Nana is actually getting better. Seems like many young and petite girls out last night. About 40 of them from McDonald's down past the car lot.
I snagged a cute one age 23 for 1k and took her to D1 ST hotel 300 B. Good GFE and cute face small body. Very pleased.
I went to Annie's to check it out. I don't want to bad mouth this place much because it is an institution. I am usually really not overly particular, but the girls were not impressive. There were about 25 I would say. Not one seemed younger than 30. All were big bodied and just not that attractive. Not one was petite and looked in shape. I just think for the price and history of this place there would be better options. I left. Sorry Aey.
Hit up several of the Nana Gogo's. Rainbow's was packed. But, just my opinion, the SW's I saw were as good as these girls. Most of them seemed really bored and disinterested. So how good are they going to fuck then? I don't know, for me it is fun to just have a drink, listen to the music, and watch their tits bounce around.[/QUOTE]The McDonalds that you are referring to is the one that is combined with a 7-11 and gas station on Sukhumvit at the beginning to Soi 4? Which car lot were you referring to? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Gen X Baer; 1395016]Decided to visit Nana Plaza today around 12:00AM.
I then dropped by the some other bars that I can't recall. Some were just for ladyboys and others were completely empty (third floor especially). So I decided to head on to the first floor and gander at the FL. There was a lot of potential and truth be honest, I really am not afraid of ladyboys nor feel awkward around them. As long as they don't have a schlong, I'm cool with the fact that they've chosen to be a woman so I'll look at them that way. Just my perspective of course. But I'd definately prefer a woman! LOL.
As I was bird watching, got a little bit thirsty so walked toward 7-11 on the left side of the exit of Nana Plaza. On my way there, sexy little Joy caught my eye but I was more thirsty. Walked by her, got a Gatorade, and as I was walking back this little sexy thing grabs me and asks if she could be my gf for the night. SCORE!
From all the tips and hints that I've received from everyone, I played it cool and for once the little dude below didn't get the better of me. We talked about what she could provide and what she was expecting to receive. A+, BBBJ, COB, CFS, PIC ok (sharing with face covered) , Multiple pops on the plate for 2, 500BHT (LT). And off we went.
The pics will show a little bit of what happened but I won't get into that detail as there wasn't any special issues as Niu had done the previous night. Well behaved girl. She even showered with me and just had fun. Session lasted approximately 5 hours and 4 romps total. With tip and taxi money, total damage was 2, 700BHT.
Trip to Nana Plaza: Free.
Spending on drinks: 280 BHT.
Taxi back to hotel: 60BHT.
Joy: 2700 BHT.
Total Damage: 3040BHT.
Overall, a good day with some great experience. Tomorrow, I'll be dropping by Annie's as suggested by many. Unfortunately, no pics there and I won't be able to head out at night!
Nonetheless, enjoy gentleman![/QUOTE]Which 7-11 were you referring to? Was it the one on Sukumvit that has the McDonalds in it, or was it the one across the street from the Heidelberg about a couple of blocks to the left of the entrance to NEP? In you description you said that the McDonalds was on the left side of the NEP entrance, but that is in the direction of the Heidelberg. Thanks for clarifying.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1405243]] I myself like BKK more as it has the international twist beeing a big big international city and all that crap where you have unlimited opertuneties from the lowest streetwalker to the hi so moviestar models. ][/QUOTE]Is that the same movie star who picked you up at the airport in her Lamborghini? LOL.
Just joking Mr Skogis, don't take everything I say at face value haha... But I'd be a monkey's uncle if your average sex tourist or even a guy (on brief holiday) with deep pockets is is carousing with the rich and famous in Thailand. Hell, they wouldn't even let Tiger Woods get a sniff of the Thai elite pussy here.
[QUOTE=Western787; 1405847]Great joke, but I am still laughing at Stickman's April fools gag last year, when he reported on supposed pending new "foreign service" regulations.
[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Naughty-Boys-Hell.htm[/url]
[/url][/QUOTE]So in his weekly column this past Sunday he wrote that Nana Plaza is going to be all ladyboy only venues. Is this another April Fool's prank?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1405732]Ok. I must of just misunderstood him then. He only took one toll then got off. But it seemed faster than taking the other toll.[/QUOTE]Happened to me a couple of times too when heading to Soi 33 from BKK. I agreeed on a "all in" fare with the taxi driver and he got out at a large road that ended at Asoke junction (MRT / BTS) from where we then turned into Sukhumvit. So he actually paid 25b. Off his "all in" rate.
Another time the taxi driver did the same and that time I saved 45b. (big deal!) as it was a metered ride.
If you go on higher Sukh (from 21 up) it is indeed a faster route (most likely upon condition the traffic in Thanon Aosk is workable as it is not a short portion on it).
The weird thing is that you do a long portion of motorway from BKK and the first toll is 25b. Then you do a much shorter portion, right into town and that is 45b. Thai toll strategy not measured in mileage but on "town access"?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1405856]Which 7-11 were you referring to? Was it the one on Sukumvit that has the McDonalds in it, or was it the one across the street from the Heidelberg about a couple of blocks to the left of the entrance to NEP? In you description you said that the McDonalds was on the left side of the NEP entrance, but that is in the direction of the Heidelberg. Thanks for clarifying.[/QUOTE]Yeah. It should be the one across Heidelberg, and still."left when you exit NEP". On the other hand. I can't recall (and my memory is two weeks old) a McDonald left when you exit NEP, not even right, unless you count the one on Sukhumvit turning left when you leave Soi 4 behind.
Nevertheless chances one will deliberately bump into the same girl are thin. Unless one has her phone number to call, one shoul dgo around with a board carrying her name. LOL
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1405862]Hell, they wouldn't even let Tiger Woods get a sniff of the Thai elite pussy here.[/QUOTE]Any link to a story on this? Fascinating. A little hard to believe.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1405888]Any link to a story on this? Fascinating. A little hard to believe.[/QUOTE]I was being facetious. However, many Thai's I've talked to have a negative attitude toward him. From what I've been told they perceived his words as him denouncing his Thai background. I have no idea if this is true. Still, one of the biggest icons in sports you would think they he would get a little love from the Thai people.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1405738]Hit up several of the Nana Gogo's. Rainbow's was packed. But, just my opinion, the SW's I saw were as good as these girls.[/QUOTE]Harold your recent post decrying the quality of the 1000B ST ladies has now been addressed. There is no difference between them and go-go girls so you can stop wasting your money in the Rainbows and start scooping them up from the streets. Only joking gents, as Luvpuss pointed out This observation is only his opinion and the World is a better place that we all have different ones.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1405849]The McDonalds that you are referring to is the one that is combined with a 7-11 and gas station on Sukhumvit at the beginning to Soi 4? Which car lot were you referring to? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Same same.
so i meet this 28 year old from thai lovelink at terminal 21 for lunch. she is fucking hot. much better than photos on site.
we eat then i ask her my usual,"want to see my hotel, it very nice". she says yes and off we go to my room.
i have had pretty much 100% success in the past once i get them to my room. this chick wants to have a beer (she had 3). keeps going outside for a smoke, and is always playing on her phone. but, i want to fuck her. she sits near me on the bed and we kiss and i progress and she says,"maybe later". then she falls asleep. wtf. she wakes up 2 hours later and says "i just want to lay here". she is fricken lame with no energy. i finally get her out of the room and get her a taxi. oh well.
i don't want to name any names on the following. i like these girls and i am not sure if it will cause trouble for them.
i then hit up lollipop. i have seen this girl 3 times now. bbbj, and bbfs with cum in pussy in the booth. she is awesome and very nice to me. lots of kissing, touching, etc. i think she loves me. haha. i always leave her a nice tip.
i get a bite to eat and the flag rises. decide to hit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s with a girl i have seen before. bbbj and bbfs in the booth. i plastered a load on her face and eyes and mouth. she started to breathe after and a cum bubble actually came from her lips. i loved it! she laughed and said,"thank you" when i finished.
back at my hotel now resting for nana tonight.
i love this fucking place.
Will try to breach the japanese castle Thermae tonight. Still. Looking for the hot girl I saw there when I left with another one last time.
BTW; was today in siam shopping mall and MBK but most say not too many really hot. Girls there. I guess the ones looking. Nice know where to. Make. The most money. In nana and sukhumvit area. I also do. Not find that asians get the 9-10 only. Saw some very nice 9s with tourists. But where did they get them? Must cost a fortune for LT or not. As some state here. As look is in the eye of the beholder.
Does any of you know (1) where you also could. Find. Nice indian girls? Saw some. In MBK, but never in sukhumvit area.
And (2) how can I get to Pattaya by bus? I definitely. Also. Want to get some beach (no not *****. Feeling before I leave.
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1405968]Will try to breach the japanese castle Thermae tonight. Still. Looking for the hot girl I saw there when I left with another one last time.
BTW; was today in siam shopping mall and MBK but most say not too many really hot. Girls there. I guess the ones looking. Nice know where to. Make. The most money. In nana and sukhumvit area. I also do. Not find that asians get the 9-10 only. Saw some very nice 9s with tourists. But where did they get them? Must cost a fortune for LT or not. As some state here. As look is in the eye of the beholder. Does any of you know (1) where you also could. Find. Nice indian girls? Saw some. In MBK, but never in sukhumvit area.
And (2) how can I get to Pattaya by bus? I definitely. Also. Want to get some beach (no not. Feeling before I leave.[/QUOTE]Oh man. Let's start from the beginning: Siam Paragon and MBK are shopping malls, not pick uo joints to find a girl to bring back to you rhotel for a ST, or even for a LT.
Some might be lucky there, but hte chances are more or less the same one might have at home (apart some cultural issues back home)
The fact you saw some foreigners with nice looking "nieces" does not mean this is the norm.
Maybe you can go to some go-go bar, pick up a girl of your liking, negotiate a LT deal and she will eventually walk with you in Siam or MBK. So that pays the ego too.
Who make you think the nice girls in the shopping malls are necessarily working girls who knows where to make money?
As far as finding indian girls (your nationality?) there have been quite some debate in here, if you RTFF, on their abouts 8or non abouts. Maybe the Foreign sex workers section will be of helo if you take YOUR time to read it.
As today I feel relaxed I am so friendly to even post the link [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3187-Foreign-Sex-Workers-in-Thailand[/url]
A lot has been written about how to reach Pattaya by bus or by taxi.
And please do soemthing to your keyboard or samrt phone as inserting "fullstops" every three words makes the reading insane
I was reading this thread, there is a mention on the word "Japanese". Many years ago, walking along Sukumvit road BBK, I came across a place which had a sign that said "Japanese only" There were other massages joints around. Could Japanese people impose, in others countries, what they practice at home? Just curious.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1405955]So I meet this 28 year old from Thai lovelink at Terminal 21 for lunch. She is fucking hot. Much better than photos on site.
We eat then I ask her my usual,"want to see my hotel, it very nice". She says yes and off we go to my room.
I have had pretty much 100% success in the past once I get them to my room. This chick wants to have a beer (she had 3). Keeps going outside for a smoke, and is always playing on her phone. But, I want to fuck her. She sits near me on the bed and we kiss and I progress and she says,"maybe later". Then she falls asleep. WTF. She wakes up 2 hours later and says "I just want to lay here". She is fricken lame with no energy. I finally get her out of the room and get her a taxi. Oh well.
I don't want to name any names on the following. I like these girls and I am not sure if it will cause trouble for them.
Snip.[/QUOTE]What's your strategy on TLL? I have a profile and am getting shit loads of Ghana scam girls, a few "nice" girls, and thus far only one party girl.
Would never step foot in one.
Thought that was where the LadyBoys get it in.
I'm not trying to follow dick on dick but more power to you guys that like that.
[QUOTE=Samu Ray;1406032]I was reading this thread, there is a mention on the word "Japanese". Many years ago, walking along Sukumvit road BBK, I came across a place which had a sign that said "Japanese only" There were other massages joints around. Could Japanese people impose, in others countries, what they practice at home? Just curious.[/QUOTE]They don't impose anything. It's the Thai owners that prefer to deal with them rather than Westerners, to reape easier proficts. Many girls also follow this logic. There is many discussions here on why that happens.
[QUOTE=RBDave;1406048]What's your strategy on TLL? I have a profile and am getting shit loads of Ghana scam girls, a few "nice" girls, and thus far only one party girl.[/QUOTE]I get the Ghana scams also. But I figured out 99% do not look Thai. Many white girls sending messages. I just delete.
You just have to show interest and send messages to the girls you like. I just say I am going to be in town and "lets meet for coffee or lunch".
Many will say Yes, if you look decent and are respectful. I guess some guys on here claim to posting fake photos of male models to represent themselves?? Good luck.
But then the work starts as you will have to Skype, email, etc, until you come. My suggestion is to start the process only about 5 days to one week out. Otherwise many lose contact with you.
It is a lot of work. I have met some nice girls I have kept in contact with for 6 months or so. With about 15 now that I have met, I have had success 90% of the time the first day I meet them of taking them to the sack and GFE.
All this really is just another avenue. Bottom line though, P4P is much easier and less complicated.
[QUOTE=Samu Ray;1406032]I was reading this thread, there is a mention on the word "Japanese". Many years ago, walking along Sukumvit road BBK, I came across a place which had a sign that said "Japanese only" There were other massages joints around. Could Japanese people impose, in others countries, what they practice at home? Just curious.[/QUOTE]It's perfectly fine, in LOS, to specify exactly what you want, sex, age, etc, in help wanted ads. It's also OK in LOS (and most other SEA places) to exclude people you don't want coming into your business, whether it's Arabs, white guys or women. It tends to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off westerners, but you're not in the west.
Anyway, the bars in question tend to cater to JP tastes. They tend to look a lot like what a JP businessman might find at home. Sitting, schmoozing, being entertained by hostesses, karaoke maybe, that sort of thing. Definitely not the in-you-face go-go scene, or the sleaze of PTY soi 6 bar. They also often have prices more in line with Tokyo.
Whether or not anybody wants to admit it, Japanese are very racist, as a whole. They're nice about it, but it's still a fact. And many feel more comfortable letting their hair down around others of their own nationality. Having said that, they JP guys I've hung out with in SEA tended to be friendly and decent, but they do tend to be clannish.
[QUOTE=RBDave;1406048]What's your strategy on TLL? I have a profile and am getting shit loads of Ghana scam girls, a few "nice" girls, and thus far only one party girl.[/QUOTE]First, you have to clearly define what you're after. Do you want a nice girl, or a party girl?
If you're just looking for a party girl, it's a lot easier just to go to a bar. Or, as Mr. LP said, contact them a few days before you arrive and just tell them you're coming to party. That'll weed out the non-hos.
I've spent a fair amount of time TLL and other sites and have found several really nice, attractive women 10. 15 years my junior. They have good jobs, good salaries, their own houses and cars, and have never darkened the door of a naughty bar. There were a few party girls, too, but I wasn't really looking in that age bracket and most were no better than girls you might find in lower Sukhumvit.
The biggest single complaint from the girls was that so many guys (the non-Nigerian Scammers, that is) were just looking for cam sex or free hookers. If you just want to whack off on cam, join a site that specializes in that. LOL If you're looking for party girls, I'd suggest trolling the 18 to maybe 25 group, but you'll need to be somewhere very close to that age yourself. The older women aren't into partying as much, and the younger ones don't want to party with their father. If you're looking for a "nice" girl, I can guaran-damn-tee you she won't show up unescorted and hop into bed on your first date, unless you have already built up a relationship with chat / webcam over several months. If she does, then she's one step from a regular bar girl, but probably too lazy to work in a bar.
Bottom line, in any case it will take a fair amount of time to find, interview, weed out the misfits, etc. So, you'll need your objectives clearly defined in your own mind in order to determine if that sort of investment is worth it.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1406186]First, you have to clearly define what you're after. Do you want a nice girl, or a party girl?
If you're just looking for a party girl, it's a lot easier just to go to a bar. Or, as Mr. LP said, contact them a few days before you arrive and just tell them you're coming to party. That'll weed out the non-hos.
I've spent a fair amount of time TLL and other sites and have found several really nice, attractive women 10. 15 years my junior. They have good jobs, good salaries, their own houses and cars, and have never darkened the door of a naughty bar. There were a few party girls, too, but I wasn't really looking in that age bracket and most were no better than girls you might find in lower Sukhumvit.
The biggest single complaint from the girls was that so many guys (the non-Nigerian Scammers, that is) were just looking for cam sex or free hookers. If you just want to whack off on cam, join a site that specializes in that. LOL If you're looking for party girls, I'd suggest trolling the 18 to maybe 25 group, but you'll need to be somewhere very close to that age yourself. The older women aren't into partying as much, and the younger ones don't want to party with their father. If you're looking for a "nice" girl, I can guaran-damn-tee you she won't show up unescorted and hop into bed on your first date, unless you have already built up a relationship with chat / webcam over several months. If she does, then she's one step from a regular bar girl, but probably too lazy to work in a bar.
Bottom line, in any case it will take a fair amount of time to find, interview, weed out the misfits, etc. So, you'll need your objectives clearly defined in your own mind in order to determine if that sort of investment is worth it.[/QUOTE]Some very good words there. I have never done the TLL dating scene, but have some friends who have met some pretty great gals on there. As you said, jobs, cars, houses, aged mainly in their early to mid-30s.
I remember a post on here recently from some dude complaining about a rise in prices saying SW are now 2000 B.
BS.
Everyone I have spoken to (about 15) is asking 1000 B. That should be for BBBJ, kissing and sex (usually covered). But clarify what you want. Don't assume.
Some of the really cute ones might ask 1500, but say 1000 and they will go.
I have hit up two already this morning.
There were a few SW's near Starbuck's on Suk.
Soi 11 MP area is usually good for an early shag. A few of those places have girls at 7am.
The first MP on the right at the first row of them walking from Suk. Girl named waew (pronounce whale). She looks a little goofy, but in a cute way. Probably not everybody's type. Age 29.
1500 B. Kissing, BBBJ, covered sex. Her BBBJ was really outstanding and went for a long time. She has a series of tats on her back that are very sexy.
Went to Starbuck's.
Walked down Nana. There is another early place on the Nana plaza side of the street a ways down across from the farthest Hillary bar. The girls sit out near the street in chairs in an alleyway. There is an Apt. Building behind them they take you to. I have met some nice girls there. I admit maybe 1 in 5 is decent. This morning only 2 girls. One Bom age 30. Ok, she does not look that great but has a nice smile and is very friendly. Her body is slim and decent. It was a love fest. Everything total GF Her pussy gets really tight when you stick your finger in her AH in doggie. It was one of the best sessions I have had. 1500 B.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1406177]You want to know how screwed up people who spend large amounts of time in BKK are. Ill give you an example.
I was willing to let go of a hot Rainbow 4 girl just cause she up my price $7. LOL. I bought into the theory don't spoil the freakin market.
Well guys, superstars set the rules- NOT us.
In the last week I could only chat to my favorite twice, she has customers all over her. Now ill have to use some charm to see if she will even go with me- OMG she might charge me $7 more dollars. LOL.[/QUOTE]Although it is a given that these girls are not as well educated as their Western equivalents they are not stupid either. They also have seasoned bar girls chipping in as a sort of mentor when needed. These ladies quickly pick up the concept of supply and demand. Their customer base increases so they up the asking price, sure a few customers will drop out and go else where but the overall result is that the ladies make more money and at the end of the day this is what they are there to do. Just don't get fleeced or fall for the girl and become a sponsor. A fate which has snared so many people.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1405951]Same same.[/QUOTE]Your wise advice is appreciated.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1406179]Whether or not anybody wants to admit it, Japanese are very racist, as a whole. They're nice about it, but it's still a fact. .[/QUOTE]I don't think the Japanese are "racist", but they are "xenophobic", which is quite different.
And this xenophobia is not an individual trait, but a societal trait.
Meet any Japanese abroad, and they will be most friendly to any foreigner.
Get lost in the middle of Tokyo, and within seconds, somebody will come and ask if you need help (Did you ever got that in, say, Paris or London?).
But, as a society, they are very much clannish, and fearful of the foreigners. They recognise differences in habits, cultures, and, as they hate confrontations, they prefer to prevent any such issues with the well known "Japanese only "sign. When I read some comments on this board on the japanese threads, from some loose cannons, I almost understand the japanese approach. And speaking a few words of japanese, does actually break a lot of "japanese only" barriers, which supports the view that is not racism, but fear fo misunderstandings.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1406081]Would never step foot in one.
Thought that was where the LadyBoys get it in.
I'm not trying to follow dick on dick but more power to you guys that like that.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with this. Each to their own but not for me. I tried the one in the corner of Nana Plaza once about 18 months ago and never again! It was one of the seediest places I have ever visited and bear in mind I have been to Glasgow.
Regards.
BJ
Heading to the airport!
Next stop, Bangkok!
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1406339]I don't think the Japanese are "racist", but they are "xenophobic", which is quite different.
And this xenophobia is not an individual trait, but a societal trait.
Meet any Japanese abroad, and they will be most friendly to any foreigner.
Get lost in the middle of Tokyo, and within seconds, somebody will come and ask if you need help (Did you ever got that in, say, Paris or London?).
But, as a society, they are very much clannish, and fearful of the foreigners. They recognise differences in habits, cultures, and, as they hate confrontations, they prefer to prevent any such issues with the well known "Japanese only "sign. When I read some comments on this board on the japanese threads, from some loose cannons, I almost understand the japanese approach. And speaking a few words of japanese, does actually break a lot of "japanese only" barriers, which supports the view that is not racism, but fear fo misunderstandings.[/QUOTE]I absolutely concur about the xenophobia. Your points are accurate and well taken. Spot on with the lost, looking for directions thing. A friend of mine confirms. The only other place I've had a similar thing happen was in San Francisco, of all places. Other western cities? Fuggedaboudit.
My take is that there is also a good dose of "we're a special people." It's not your fault you're not Japanese, so we'll be nice about it. But you'll never be our equal because you're not Japanese. You'll always be a barbarian, or perhaps gaijin is more accurate. You see similar in Mexico, for instance, where many consider themselves part of the "noble race." In LOS you'll always be farang no matter what. So, if that's not racism, it's the next best thing.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1406552]I absolutely concur about the xenophobia. So, if that's not racism, it's the next best thing.[/QUOTE]Slightly different take. Racism is a bias against a specific ethnicity. Whites against blacks, Christians against Muslims. Xenophobia is a general bias against anything that is not identical to you. For instance, Japanese against any non-japanese, whether white, black or other yellow. Just POV
one night . one day in bangkok, j-one, dr. blowjob, som's heaven.
arrived late at bkk, finally it was 22:00 when i left my hotel at soi2 to go for a soapy foam adventure. last time i was here i was well treated, at atami, but this huge placed closed some years go. annies massage was the place i was going for, i was tiered and was not carefully investigating the addresses, asked a few tuktuk, nobody even knew the name, or they wanted me just to have in the vehicle to bring the mongers to a pace of their choice. oh man, annies was at soi 2 and my hotel was at soi 2, but i was just too much dazzled by the time leg of my flight. i had the idea it should be somewhere near soi3 / grace hotel, walked it up, asked all kind of peoples, was sent to all kind of direction. finally one street man pretended to know it, he would walk me there. we walked up all along soi3 until railway lines came, we arrived at a place called plazza entie complex, eurndy / capidy massage (?). mamasan said girls at left side 2500 bhat, girls right side 3500bhat. was not having so much money with me anyhow. asked some other europes about the price here. 'we don't know, maybe 4000? '. i escaped. was desperate, it was already 23:00 these places close at midnight. a tuktuk driver said 'i know'. we landed at j-one massage. big place. i got miss jon (#10) for 3000 (or was it 2500, don't remember?). a cutey, heaven if a young chick, she rubs her soapy body around a man. she had good technique. ok after soap session, sucking session and fu* session, all was ok. she has a baby. she is from isan (of course). felt well after.
sunday lunchtime, there were local election and most bars stayed closed. wanted to check dr. blowjob before i would be heading to cambodia this late afternoon. enough girls were around, i just liked one or two of them i went for the 1000bhat option, the bar manager, a foreigner explained there is no real sharp line between the 800bhat girl and 1000bhat girls. forgot her name, she was kind of tall and her lips looked sexy, cute face and nice attitude. 1st floor they have cabins with curtains and real comfortable king-size chairs. the wash basin is modified in a way to comfort your prick. she gave my best part a good shower. blow work was very well and i enjoyed her licking and sucking my best part. 30 minutes was he sponsored time. looked like i might come in the very beginning, did not cede this feeling as enough time was left. oh yes, i need recovery time of at least 24 hours for a new shot, the last sperm jumping was juts ˝ day ago at midnight with lovely jon. i explained my lady that i would / could not come, but that she should not worry, i reassured she was good. sorry no tip. some hours later i was away in the air towards cambodia.
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tuesday. 23:00 back in bkk again after a week. went for dr. blowjob, soi7/1 again. 2 ladies with a fresh face were sitting in front of the establishment, together with other girls of the bar. one was holding a menu / 700/1000bhat. i went to her with cheerful face and i told her: its her i would like to go. shit, she was not for service, just doing publicity for the bar. ok. 2nd one was cute too. same again, an angry lady showed up and explained that both girls are not available, but all the others. i got angry too, why she sits in front of this bar when she is a fake! went inside, all girls paraded, not one was pleasing me.
continued to famous eden club next doors, had gorgeous moments at this place 5 yers ago. ups 4500 bhat per session. 90 min with 2 girls. but girls where bad, bad, old, nothing fresh and cute. place was completely empty no customers. continued to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] at soi 8. completely empty too. took miss dao, tall girl, round face. holy shit, no cock washing facilities upstairs, she even complained that i wanted to wash my best part. finally she opened the toilet, a bucket of water was there, no soap, she pretended not to understand the word soap. blowing was medium level, no cim, she firmly closed her lips when i came. hey, blowjob bar with no cim, not possible, bad service!
continued to soi cowboy. stepped in at 'ater school bar' they tried to please me with an unattractive young girl. no room for sucking they have, blowjob for 800 would be done in some dark corner of the room. was not tempted, my eggs were empty anyhow. soi cowoy is extremely busy, noisy, the more girls i saw the less i was feeling to go with them. 'come in mister, come in', small talk. i hate, girls you hardly can talk anything with them. checked som's heaven. its on soi10. quiet corner. girls welcomed me and i liked tall miss sa. i was sitting with her. i liked her from the 1st minute, decided to take her for overnight. paid 500 bar fee, it was late, one o clock in the morning, thought there would be no bar fee t that time any more? sa wanted 3000, she came down to 2500, but i gave her 3000 next day, as she was good. we walked to nana hotel. i was curious if she would complain long walking and ask for a taxi, but she did not. sex was great with her, clean and small pussy, we fu. ed long and from all sides, think she came and she called me cool, cool. blow job was weak, just licking with tongue, no real sucking. wonder how in a blow job bar she could stand with this? great gf sex, but not much caressing and technique from her side. nice sleeping next to her. another session in the morning. she is from isan. she did not like i checked her name on her i'd card, she had a christian name andrea? ok all 4 today air plane was leaving in the evening anyhow.
john
not to forget comfortable armchair plus prick-washing-basin at dr. blowjob 1st floor.
(and nothing like this at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]!)
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1406552]The only other place I've had a similar thing happen was in San Francisco, of all places. Other western cities? Fuggedaboudit.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the compliment. As a long time resident of San Francisco I often offer help to confused visitors to the city by the bay. Most of my friends do the same. We feel fortune to live in a fantastic city and take pride in being friendly and welcoming.
What's up with EE: Consultant Name: Take's Itdeep?
700 B, same for take out?
I wouldn't mind adding some protein to her diet when I come later this week.
Day 1: Went to Annies. The place was near my hotel so I was able to walk. It was really hot in Bangkok when I went, I was soaked in sweat when I got there. Language was bit of an issue with mamasan as I tried to understand the menu. I soon realized there's only one item on the menu-everything. Chose my girl (very cute). The room was a little ratty but the two hour session was excellent. You start on a rubber mattress, then a shower, then the bed (massage, etc.). Oh yeah, you get two pops. The best session I had in Bangkok.
Day 2: Went to try the Nuru massage I've been reading so much about. Ended up going to Akane (Chidlom branch). Man, what a waste of money this was. The lineup was some of the least attractive women I've seen in Bangkok. I picked one who was enthusiastic enough before the selection, but enthusiasm ended once we got to the room (which has seen better days). The lotion she used started off slimy and dried quickly. I'm glad I got the cheapest thing on the menu. (60 min lotion massage).
Day 3: For my last day I decided to treat myself and scheduled a girl with Bangkok Gold Escorts. Considering what I've read on this forum my expectations were high. But why not, they're one of the most expensive services in Bangkok. I selected May. That night my front desk called and I had to go down to the hotel lobby and bring her up (a little embarrassing). Anyway, when I saw her I knew things weren't going to work out. Complements to the photographer who took her picture for the website because she doesn't look anything like that. Also, she had spots / pimples all around her mouth and I was definitely not going to kiss that. Anyway, after some smalltalk I broke the bad news. I felt bad about it, but finally gave her cab fare and sent her on her way.
That's my trip: the good, the bad and the ugly.
Have had a good read of the forum and had a bit of time in Bangkok to experience the pleasures, so here is my overview and insight, some comments lift from others:
Quick comment: Not to be discriminating, but as the girls are I'll give a heads up. They know what type of people we are and charge accordingly. Words from the horses mouth from several gives: Westerners shag longer, have larger cocks, haggle more and tip less, especially relative to Asians and Japanese. Therefore the girls will either defer for an Asian (bad luck) or for a freelance, expect to pay 500 baht or so less than a Japanese person and tips less expected (good luck).
1) Soi Cowboy, generally a damn good street. Bacarra is the best, great girls, and the second floor has a glass floor and the girls all wear short skirts and no pants. And every twenty minutes they take their shirts off (no bras) for 10 minutes. Staff not too pushy, beers 140 baht, girl drinks not much more ( 200 baht). Not too much pressure. Bar fine 600, take out 2500 for 2 hours. Girls all 18 (barely).25 ish. Very attractive. No cover charges.
2) Nana plaza. Basically get horny in Soi and come to Nana to have fun. Girls of attractive, though they can be picky (I. E. They charge more to, for example, Japanese, expect more tips and expect less work all relative to Westerners).1500 baht for 2 hours, met a girl called Natalie. 25, great session, GFE works. All decent hotels in the area are GF, they just hand over I'd. Nana starts as early as 6pm, but by 10pm to 1am is in full swing. Quoted Long time for 3000 baht. Obviously no bar fines if you get them on the street, many are fluent in English. The bars in Nana charge the same as Soi Cowboy, but not so fun.
3) Went to Annies. 2500 for 2 hours. As expected, two pops, first in a soapy bath, then long massage, followed by BBBJ, covered sex and then whatever you want to finish. I had number 19, great girl, lots of effort and good fun. Definitely worth it for the bang to buck.
Other options:
- There is 1 more area like Soi Cowboy, but Soi has plenty.
- And massage place that has private rooms can be potentially enlisted for HJ's.
- Annie's (more central) , Cherry, Mango and Tulip in that order.
- EZ1, EZ2 and SnowWhite also options.
EZ will set you back 2400 plus a tip of around 500. Cherry and Mango are 800 plus a tip of around 1600. I think most experienced guys feel they have a better chance of a getting a good PSE at Cherry or Mango.
Other options (price before tips) :
1. Star of Light. 700 Bahts.
2, Lollipop. 700 Bahts.
3. Dr BJ's 700 Baht.
4. Yuki in Akane. While the place is a little sub-standard, the service is simply outstanding, within the regulation of this very special massage place on Soi 33. No chance for any FS, but the prostate / ball massage is really great. Quotes of 1500 for full sex. 1400 of Happy Ending massage.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1406658]What's up with EE: Consultant Name: Take's Itdeep?
700 B, same for take out?
I wouldn't mind adding some protein to her diet when I come later this week.[/QUOTE]One of our most talented ladies. Being a consultant the price of a BJ from her is actually 1, 000 baht. It is the Nurses who cost 700. Our take out or out call prices do not work the same way they do in go-go bars where you pay a bar fine and "negotiate" the price with the lady. We have a flat rate of 5, 000 baht for a consultant (3, 000 for a Nurse) and you are not required to pay the lady any more. Whether a customer gives the lady a tip or not is, as the saying goes "up to you".
Regards,
BJ
I spoke with one of my favorites from Fantasia at NEP and she said the place hasn't been very busy lately and she hadn't been barfined in a couple weeks? She's young, great looking and has a great body. Are all the usual punters off somewhere else in April?
I walked down Soi 6 and almost all the bars were empty and most had a half dozen women outside saying "hi" and trying to entice me inside.
[QUOTE=SexPerimenter; 1406866]I spoke with one of my favorites from Fantasia at NEP and she said the place hasn't been very busy lately and she hadn't been barfined in a couple weeks? She's young, great looking and has a great body. Are all the usual punters off somewhere else in April?
I walked down Soi 6 and almost all the bars were empty and most had a half dozen women outside saying "hi" and trying to entice me inside.[/QUOTE]Yes, they're off somewhere. It's April. The high season is over. Wait until October when the rains pour and the streets flood. The bars really suffer then.
Hello Gentlemen,
I would have a few questions for you. I have been to Bangkok in the past and understand most of the workings.
1. My question si how much does this change during Songkran? I will be there partly during this time. Will all the parlors be closed? Is there anything else I need to be aware of except the water guns?
2. Also would anyone have a recommendations for some adult entertainment that would include a female partner? My girlfriend is not the jealous type and would be interested in seeing some sexy shows etc. Any suggestions where one could do that in Bangkok without ending up in some dodgy place on the 4th floor.
Your suggestions would be most welcome.
Have a good one!
[QUOTE=SexPerimenter; 1406866]I spoke with one of my favorites from Fantasia at NEP and she said the place hasn't been very busy lately and she hadn't been barfined in a couple weeks? She's young, great looking and has a great body. Are all the usual punters off somewhere else in April?
I walked down Soi 6 and almost all the bars were empty and most had a half dozen women outside saying "hi" and trying to entice me inside.[/QUOTE]That's interesting! A couple of weeks ago a senior member specifically asked me on this board if tourist numbers were down in the lower Suk area. I responded that indeed compared to 12 months ago most bars and go-go's were experiencing a big reduction in customer numbers. This was refuted by about 3 people, one even quoted official Thai tourist board figures to contradict my answer. Point being I was not asked about the general number of tourists visiting Thailand but specifically this area. Seems your experience supports what I was saying.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1406852]One of our most talented ladies. Being a consultant the price of a BJ from her is actually 1, 000 baht. It is the Nurses who cost 700. Our take out or out call prices do not work the same way they do in go-go bars where you pay a bar fine and "negotiate" the price with the lady. We have a flat rate of 5, 000 baht for a consultant (3, 000 for a Nurse) and you are not required to pay the lady any more. Whether a customer gives the lady a tip or not is, as the saying goes "up to you".
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]Not bad, I'll make sure to bless her esophagus when I have a nut to spare.
How far is between Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza? And where is Patpong in comparison?
[QUOTE=Creahausi; 1406887]Hello Gentlemen,
I would have a few questions for you. I have been to Bangkok in the past and understand most of the workings.
1. My question si how much does this change during Songkran? I will be there partly during this time. Will all the parlors be closed? Is there anything else I need to be aware of except the water guns?[/QUOTE]Buckets of water, water hoses, trucks with electric pumps that rival a riot police water cannon truck, ... :) Last year I did not see any parlors closed for Songkran. Most were fully staffed but the girls were more in a festive mood and less into their "business".
[QUOTE=Creahausi;1406887]2. Also would anyone have a recommendations for some adult entertainment that would include a female partner? My girlfriend is not the jealous type and would be interested in seeing some sexy shows etc. Any suggestions where one could do that in Bangkok without ending up in some dodgy place on the 4th floor.[/QUOTE]Any a-gogo club in Soi Cowboy. The shows start usually at or after 10PM. The a-gogo clubs in Soi Cowboy are not dodgy, although it can do no harm to check your drink tabs. Errors and mistakes do happen, but if you point it out immediately it will be corrected without undue hassle. I never had anyone charge me outrageous prices, it is all very much ok there.
[QUOTE=Awesome Man;1406939]How far is between Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza? And where is Patpong in comparison?[/QUOTE]One stop on the skytrain or about 20 minutes walking (at a slow pace) between Nana and Soi Cowboy.
Nana to Patpong is too far to walk. Take a taxi or a combination of Skytrain and metro.
[QUOTE=Awesome Man;1406939]How far is between Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza? And where is Patpong in comparison?[/QUOTE]Use Google maps, you even get a street view. I knew how all the places look even before I got there.
BP
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1406852]One of our most talented ladies. Being a consultant the price of a BJ from her is actually 1, 000 baht. It is the Nurses who cost 700. Our take out or out call prices do not work the same way they do in go-go bars where you pay a bar fine and "negotiate" the price with the lady. We have a flat rate of 5, 000 baht for a consultant (3, 000 for a Nurse) and you are not required to pay the lady any more. Whether a customer gives the lady a tip or not is, as the saying goes "up to you".
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]If one takes a consultant for an out call, how many hours does the guy have the girl available?
Thanks, that is why I love this forum, I think we don't appreciate it enough sometimes here when we get good answers!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1406950]Buckets of water, water hoses, trucks with electric pumps that rival a riot police water cannon truck, . Last year I did not see any parlors closed for Songkran. Most were fully staffed but the girls were more in a festive mood and less into their "business".
Any a-gogo club in Soi Cowboy. The shows start usually at or after 10PM. The a-gogo clubs in Soi Cowboy are not dodgy, although it can do no harm to check your drink tabs. Errors and mistakes do happen, but if you point it out immediately it will be corrected without undue hassle. I never had anyone charge me outrageous prices, it is all very much ok there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GentlemanDocto; 1406701]Have had a good read of the forum and had a bit of time in Bangkok to experience the pleasures, so here is my overview and insight, some comments lift from others:
Quick comment: Not to be discriminating, but as the girls are I'll give a heads up. They know what type of people we are and charge accordingly. Words from the horses mouth from several gives: Westerners shag longer, have larger cocks, haggle more and tip less, especially relative to Asians and Japanese. Therefore the girls will either defer for an Asian (bad luck) or for a freelance, expect to pay 500 baht or so less than a Japanese person and tips less expected (good luck).
1) Soi Cowboy, generally a damn good street. Bacarra is the best, great girls, and the second floor has a glass floor and the girls all wear short skirts and no pants. And every twenty minutes they take their shirts off (no bras) for 10 minutes. Staff not too pushy, beers 140 baht, girl drinks not much more (200 baht). Not too much pressure. Bar fine 600, take out 2500 for 2 hours. Girls all 18 (barely).25 ish. Very attractive. No cover charges.
2) Nana plaza. Basically get horny in Soi and come to Nana to have fun. Girls of attractive, though they can be picky (I. E. They charge more to, for example, Japanese, expect more tips and expect less work all relative to Westerners).1500 baht for 2 hours, met a girl called Natalie. 25, great session, GFE works. All decent hotels in the area are GF, they just hand over I'd. Nana starts as early as 6pm, but by 10pm to 1am is in full swing. Quoted Long time for 3000 baht. Obviously no bar fines if you get them on the street, many are fluent in English. The bars in Nana charge the same as Soi Cowboy, but not so fun.
3) Went to Annies. 2500 for 2 hours. As expected, two pops, first in a soapy bath, then long massage, followed by BBBJ, covered sex and then whatever you want to finish. I had number 19, great girl, lots of effort and good fun. Definitely worth it for the bang to buck.
Other options:
- There is 1 more area like Soi Cowboy, but Soi has plenty.
- And massage place that has private rooms can be potentially enlisted for HJ's.
- Annie's (more central) , Cherry, Mango and Tulip in that order.
- EZ1, EZ2 and SnowWhite also options.
EZ will set you back 2400 plus a tip of around 500. Cherry and Mango are 800 plus a tip of around 1600. I think most experienced guys feel they have a better chance of a getting a good PSE at Cherry or Mango.
Other options (price before tips) :
1. Star of Light. 700 Bahts.
2, Lollipop. 700 Bahts.
3. Dr BJ's 700 Baht.
4. Yuki in Akane. While the place is a little sub-standard, the service is simply outstanding, within the regulation of this very special massage place on Soi 33. No chance for any FS, but the prostate / ball massage is really great. Quotes of 1500 for full sex. 1400 of Happy Ending massage.
Have fun![/QUOTE]Great information exactly what a first timer needs.
Chris
I wonder if it is a BAD time going to BKK in June / July is I am going for the girls only?
Is it lowseason in BKK and no good looking girls in the bars?
Damn I have already booked my tickets 25 June. 5 July.
But IF there are as much girls in the bars but not as much customers in the summer it whould be a GOOD time to visit becouse its more good looking girls but not so many gauy after them? .
Hmmmm help me here.
With all my trips to this wonderful town, I never pulled from a Gogo. I wanted to give it a shot.
On Wednesday night I did. Spanky's girl age 22 very cute with nice smile and decent body. She sat next to me and immediately started to deep kiss while I stuck my finger up her ass. So I knew I would take her. The fees here are 600 BF. plus 2000 for girl ST. You pay before you leave the place.
I negotiated what I wanted before I paid and left. She agreed to everything. She asked 2 questions: Can you have baby? (I have vasectomy) and You cum outside, OK? No problem.
She performed as agreed. No issues except a little smokers mouth.
With drinks I paid 3000 B.
But, she was really no different than the SW's.
A SW is a much better option for me. The same service and quality of girl for 1000 B.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1406907]That's interesting! A couple of weeks ago a senior member specifically asked me on this board if tourist numbers were down in the lower Suk area. I responded that indeed compared to 12 months ago most bars and go-go's were experiencing a big reduction in customer numbers. This was refuted by about 3 people, one even quoted official Thai tourist board figures to contradict my answer. Point being I was not asked about the general number of tourists visiting Thailand but specifically this area. Seems your experience supports what I was saying.
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]There are far less "monger" tourists, that is for sure."Regular" tourist numbers continue to rise. I think this trend will continue. Bangkok is not the same s*x destination it used to be and probably won't be again. Really, it has become all hat and no cattle. I see bar owners spending tons of cash on their bars, yet with the exception of a few bars with pricey drinks and gals (most of whom underperform) , the talent level just ain't that great. I even see some of our Asian wh*ring brethren with gals I would have not been caught dead with 10 yrs ago. But the country has developed and gals with half a brain can get a decent paying job and don't have to rent their snapper. So again we will have what we see in the West eventually. Cheap skanks and expensive lookers and that is not why most mongers made the pilgrimage to BKK. Many of my friends who were regulars for over a decade no longer come to BKK. Pattaya, maybe but not BKK.
Another factor is drink costs. 150 plus for a local beer when you can get a pint of Belgian on Soi 15 for 180 or a half liter at some places for 140? Take out the value for money and the fun (which is long gone) and you have a scene in decline and this news certainly makes the internet rounds as well.
Hello colleagues,
I'm coming to BKK in the coming days and wouldn't mind a wingman to go to:
1. High-end soapies.
2. G-clubs
3. Clubs.
PM me, if interested.
A
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1407105]There are far less "monger" tourists, that is for sure."Regular" tourist numbers continue to rise. I think this trend will continue. Bangkok is not the same s*x destination it used to be and probably won't be again. Really, it has become all hat and no cattle. I see bar owners spending tons of cash on their bars, yet with the exception of a few bars with pricey drinks and gals (most of whom underperform) , the talent level just ain't that great. I even see some of our Asian wh*ring brethren with gals I would have not been caught dead with 10 yrs ago. But the country has developed and gals with half a brain can get a decent paying job and don't have to rent their snapper. So again we will have what we see in the West eventually. Cheap skanks and expensive lookers and that is not why most mongers made the pilgrimage to BKK. Many of my friends who were regulars for over a decade no longer come to BKK. Pattaya, maybe but not BKK.
Another factor is drink costs. 150 plus for a local beer when you can get a pint of Belgian on Soi 15 for 180 or a half liter at some places for 140? Take out the value for money and the fun (which is long gone) and you have a scene in decline and this news certainly makes the internet rounds as well.[/QUOTE]Well said. The Thai economy has been booming for the last few years. As you said, anybody with half a brain can get a regular job. In fact, I understand that employers across the board are having a hard time finding personnel.
TH is no longer the value it once was. I've been coming here, more or less yearly, since 1999. I stopped the go-go scene a couple of years back. Now I'm just amazed at the prices and shitty service everybody seems to put up with, and consider normal. Wow. But sorry, $20 bar fines, $100 short times, $6 or $7 beers, are you fucking kidding me? Add to that well over $1, 000 airfare from the USA, and other destinations look a whole lot more attractive. TH used to be a wonderful place for complete GFE at a reasonable rate. Now, with this shitty state of affairs, Tijuana (in some respects) is actually a better alternative, and I thought I'd NEVER say that.
Having said that, I'm typing this from my hotel room near Suk soi 20. Got in last night. I will NEVER take a flight that arrives at 1:30am again. GF (non-BG) and I are heading up north, later today, to pay respects to family.
For all the insanity, Thailand is still a pretty neat place to visit. Now where's my som tam?
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1407132]Well said. The Thai economy has been booming for the last few years. As you said, anybody with half a brain can get a regular job. In fact, I understand that employers across the board are having a hard time finding personnel.
TH is no longer the value it once was. I've been coming here, more or less yearly, since 1999. I stopped the go-go scene a couple of years back. Now I'm just amazed at the prices and shitty service everybody seems to put up with, and consider normal. Wow. But sorry, $20 bar fines, $100 short times, $6 or $7 beers, are you fucking kidding me? Add to that well over $1, 000 airfare from the USA, and other destinations look a whole lot more attractive. TH used to be a wonderful place for complete GFE at a reasonable rate. Now, with this shitty state of affairs, Tijuana (in some respects) is actually a better alternative, and I thought I'd NEVER say that.
Having said that, I'm typing this from my hotel room near Suk soi 20. Got in last night. I will NEVER take a flight that arrives at 1:30am again. GF (non-BG) and I are heading up north, later today, to pay respects to family.
For all the insanity, Thailand is still a pretty neat place to visit. Now where's my som tam?[/QUOTE]You are exactly right. Thailand (especially Bangkok) is so overpriced now. Taking into account that I need a Hotel in Thailand, I am even cheaper and better off in Hong Kong these days. Something I would not have believed a while ago. Let the fools part with their money.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1407133]With the USA in permanent decline for now.[/QUOTE]What? "Permanent decline for now". You might want to rethink / rephrase that one.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1407132]Well said. The Thai economy has been booming for the last few years. As you said, anybody with half a brain can get a regular job. In fact, I understand that employers across the board are having a hard time finding personnel.
TH is no longer the value it once was. I've been coming here, more or less yearly, since 1999. I stopped the go-go scene a couple of years back. Now I'm just amazed at the prices and shitty service everybody seems to put up with, and consider normal. Wow. But sorry, $20 bar fines, $100 short times, $6 or $7 beers, are you fucking kidding me? Add to that well over $1, 000 airfare from the USA, and other destinations look a whole lot more attractive. TH used to be a wonderful place for complete GFE at a reasonable rate. Now, with this shitty state of affairs, Tijuana (in some respects) is actually a better alternative, and I thought I'd NEVER say that.
Having said that, I'm typing this from my hotel room near Suk soi 20. Got in last night. I will NEVER take a flight that arrives at 1:30am again. GF (non-BG) and I are heading up north, later today, to pay respects to family.
For all the insanity, Thailand is still a pretty neat place to visit. Now where's my som tam?[/QUOTE]Hahha! BACK TO SoCal in the 70's! Tijuana for cheap floozies, cerveza & fish taco. As well as skunk-weed.
[QUOTE=Catbird;1407145]What? "Permanent decline for now". You might want to rethink / rephrase that one.[/QUOTE]Is that like Same-same, but different? :D
[QUOTE=SailSingapore;1407147]Hahha! BACK TO SoCal in the 70's! Tijuana for cheap floozies, cerveza & fish taco. As well as skunk-weed.[/QUOTE]LOL. As much as I like Thai food, its got nothing on a Baja Fish Taco!
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1407132]TH is no longer the value it once was. I've been coming here, more or less yearly, since 1999.[/quote]Visited the first time that same year, while on regional travel (China, Laos, Cambodia etc) , and now finding the same.
Only started mongering here in the early 00s though. Interestingly it seems the prices for 'some' things have not risen majorly in that whole time, while for other things we're being gouged. Late 90s was of course the crash time for their economy? So in some ways we were spoilt with the value we were getting back then and into the early to mid 00s. Now it is back to normal, and we're having to be far more disciplined with expenditure, combined with the other factors like our weaker currencies, rising flight costs etc.
Mind blowing sex with pretty Girls in their early 20s is still to be found, but it puts a dent in my wallet that increasingly is putting me on the back foot each time when converting into the total in my own currency. It has meant a slow retreat on this visit to being mainly beach lounging with great food, only 'occasional' visits to WG. In many ways I was spoiled by frequent former meet ups with a GFE BG who didn't want regular payment for daily boom boom, but just the occasional thing bought for her etc.
Recently one of the lookers I visit in the Mini 'naughty' Massage Joints on Ko Samui said that they get a huge amount of young and fit handsome male tourists showing up at the door who either expect a freebie 'because' they are young, fit and handsome, or have swallowed this mythology still doing the rounds back home that pretty young Girls are to be had for about B200 in Thailand, and tend to leave the joint with their saddle bags still fully loaded as a result. What is charged is still far better than Escort prices in the west for sure, but expenditure for Boom Boom (for Falang) seems to be completely unrealistic to other local costs that we pay here. It has become a lifestyle choice for some Girls to make big money fast, rather like Western Escorts. Men get gouged as a result.
[QUOTE]For all the insanity, Thailand is still a pretty neat place to visit. Now where's my som tam?[/QUOTE]Agreed, and this is its fall back. Although it is not ending up as a 'new snatch every day' for me, there has been contentment in the fact that the beach lounging is still blissfull, getting bronzed on the sand, turquoise water, som tam and paneng curry. In so many ways Thailand is a great little holiday destination in itself. If it wasn't, by now I would have called it a day for visits.
Indonesia is looking like my new 'travel+monger' place now though.
Impressed by it for travel last year and had some great sex at reasonable prices I could roll with.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1407152]LOL. As much as I like Thai food, its got nothing on a Baja Fish Taco![/QUOTE]Hahaha! Remember the excellent, cheap & tasty LOBSTER Taco's in Baja? LOL!
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1407131]Get with the present, the here and now.
It aint that bad!
By the time BKK reaches western status you will be long gone. I'm assuming you way past 50. LOL.[/QUOTE]Not even 50 dude. Been here since my mid-30s. The "present" state of affairs is pretty bad.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1407133]With the USA in permanent decline for now. The rest of the world will have a hard time prospering. So goes america the rest of the world will follow! Thai girls will will have to reopen their SNAPPERS to make a living again. LOL.[/QUOTE]Uh, no. The US is and will become less and less relevant as Asian markets develop. And Harold, in many ways Thailand has passed Western Standards.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1407132]Well said. The Thai economy has been booming for the last few years. As you said, anybody with half a brain can get a regular job. In fact, I understand that employers across the board are having a hard time finding personnel.
TH is no longer the value it once was. I've been coming here, more or less yearly, since 1999. I stopped the go-go scene a couple of years back. Now I'm just amazed at the prices and shitty service everybody seems to put up with, and consider normal. Wow. But sorry, $20 bar fines, $100 short times, $6 or $7 beers, are you fucking kidding me? Add to that well over $1, 000 airfare from the USA, and other destinations look a whole lot more attractive. TH used to be a wonderful place for complete GFE at a reasonable rate. Now, with this shitty state of affairs, Tijuana (in some respects) is actually a better alternative, and I thought I'd NEVER say that.
Having said that, I'm typing this from my hotel room near Suk soi 20. Got in last night. I will NEVER take a flight that arrives at 1:30am again. GF (non-BG) and I are heading up north, later today, to pay respects to family.
For all the insanity, Thailand is still a pretty neat place to visit. Now where's my som tam?[/QUOTE]And it is a pretty decent place to live for reasons other than pooty. Yep. 100 USD for a wham bam is a rip off, and I am amazed how many guys are willing to put up with this. Really it is not the girls fault at all. Good on them. It is the fools that come here, stick it in, and in 6 seconds are in love / lust.
And it is not about being cheap. I would have no issue at all paying 100 USD for a good looking gal that scr*ws like a porn star.
[QUOTE=Puttex; 1407062]I wonder if it is a BAD time going to BKK in June / July is I am going for the girls only?
Is it lowseason in BKK and no good looking girls in the bars?
Damn I have already booked my tickets 25 June. 5 July.
But IF there are as much girls in the bars but not as much customers in the summer it whould be a GOOD time to visit becouse its more good looking girls but not so many gauy after them? .
Hmmmm help me here.[/QUOTE]Just go and report back. BKK is good at any time of the year to find girls.
The offer is so wide that even a drop of 20% in availability will not be noticed
[QUOTE=Bishop80;1406990]If one takes a consultant for an out call, how many hours does the guy have the girl available?[/QUOTE]Our policy on out call is any time after 1 pm until 8 am the following morning. Which I think represents very good value for money.
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE=Creahausi; 1406887]Hello Gentlemen,
I would have a few questions for you. I have been to Bangkok in the past and understand most of the workings.
1. My question si how much does this change during Songkran? I will be there partly during this time. Will all the parlors be closed? Is there anything else I need to be aware of except the water guns?
2. Also would anyone have a recommendations for some adult entertainment that would include a female partner? My girlfriend is not the jealous type and would be interested in seeing some sexy shows etc. Any suggestions where one could do that in Bangkok without ending up in some dodgy place on the 4th floor.
Your suggestions would be most welcome.
Have a good one![/QUOTE]As far as I remember everything is normal except that you get a lot of showers.
Guess the pictures illustrate how the City change (more during daytime).
Enjoy and put your valuables in a plastic bag (the are always people who sells this during Songkrang).
[QUOTE=Puttex; 1407062]Is it lowseason in BKK and no good looking girls in the bars?
Damn I have already booked my tickets 25 June. 5 July.[/QUOTE]Don't panic my man. When you get here it is more of a buyers market. Less punters to girls ratio so the likelihood of better bargaining and enhanced performance is higher.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1407096]With all my trips to this wonderful town, I never pulled from a Gogo. I wanted to give it a shot.
On Wednesday night I did. Spanky's girl age 22 very cute with nice smile and decent body. She sat next to me and immediately started to deep kiss while I stuck my finger up her ass. So I knew I would take her. The fees here are 600 BF. Plus 2000 for girl ST. You pay before you leave the place.
I negotiated what I wanted before I paid and left. She agreed to everything. She asked 2 questions: Can you have baby? (I have vasectomy) and You cum outside, OK? No problem.
She performed as agreed. No issues except a little smokers mouth.
With drinks I paid 3000 B.
But, she was really no different than the SW's.
A SW is a much better option for me. The same service and quality of girl for 1000 B.[/QUOTE]Of course you can. You are a sexpat pensioner who practically lives there who sounds like he maybe on a budget. If you and other sexpats can't find cheap / cheaper pussy then who can?
Many of us who have more money than time can't be bothered with that hunt and as you say if the quality turns out to be the same then why would I want to spend all that time and useless energy just to save 30 or 40 bucks for the same thing I can get sitting comfortably with a drink with all that possibility before me?
The only issue that would sway me in the end is service. But as long as I can wrangle excellent service from the Nana girls I choose then life is (at least for that 6-8 hours) heaven!
As you learned recently in the escort thread some of us don't need the cheapest alternative.
[B]One Night in Bangkok. [/B]
Actually I was there around 1 week, but I thought the title sounded better)
Bangkok, Bangkok. What a city. So much fun & energy there.
Before starting, an important advice if you come for short time & don't speak thai :
Forget the dating scene. You will spend lot more money, drink more, sleep less and get probably (99, 9%) sure uglier girls. And at the end you will sponsor them anyway.
So better to focus on venues like Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong or Nataree. You will find there great girls, and if you choose wisely the girl, you will have a nice "girlfriend / boyfriend" treatment with a beautiful girl.
Choosing wisely? Its the difficult part, many times you want the young atomic bomb dancing in front of you, no matter what. And finally sex / treatment is not so good.
Be careful. 50% of the girls at least in these venues are "big money" focus, and prefer to get japanese clients than "farangs". Why? I asked many and all of them answered same : short dick. 5 minutes sex and big tips. Always funny to see these girls going out with the client, and come back 20 minutes after. In one night, they can make lots of $$ without sweating too much.
Best girls must meet these requirements :
- she speak minimum english, always better chemistry for the night / action.
- she want to go to your place, and doesn't mind not going to the venue' cheap hotel.
- she is open minded on short time hours, not only 1h strict.
Now the action.
Massages. No need to list the others, without any doubts Nataree has really the best ratio price / girls, only issue its the rooms, not so clean.
GoGo bars.
- Soi Cowboy, great for starting the night, and have fun with coyotes & gogos. Baccara has many nice girls, but 90% like a lot japanese (see above why.)
- Nana, best place for ratio quality / price, you will find there sometimes nice SW around Nana Plaza too. Inside the plaza, you will always find a girl you like there, there are places for every taste.
- Patpong, it was the first place in Bangkok for hot nightlife long time ago, now its lot more quiet but I like places like Bada Bing & Pink Panther, girls are dancing there at least not like Baccara or Rainbow where they just move the foot fingers at best.
It was a short resume but I think its better not to say too much so you can experience the full Bangkok nightlife by yourself with this few tips.
[QUOTE=Puttex; 1407062]I wonder if it is a BAD time going to BKK in June / July is I am going for the girls only?
Is it lowseason in BKK and no good looking girls in the bars?
Damn I have already booked my tickets 25 June. 5 July.
But IF there are as much girls in the bars but not as much customers in the summer it whould be a GOOD time to visit becouse its more good looking girls but not so many gauy after them? .
Hmmmm help me here.[/QUOTE]BKK is excellent choice as allways. June / July beeing no exception. Don't listen to the moody mongerers viewing BKK going downhill in girls selctions and upwards in prices. BKK is from my point of view extremely cheap from all perspectives (girls incl). Many beautiful girls out there and less punters as stated from some other posters around this time of year. I have been into town 10-15 times per year the last 7 years and I have not seen any dramaticaly changes in any sceene or prices. I think I even notice an increese in FL nightclubgirls and the girls get prettier and prettier. Maby more girls choose this instead of making dancelookalike steps on a go go stage (sometimes both ofcourse).
So good months to travel to BKK but I woull answered the same no matter what month you`the picked.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1407293]Our policy on out call is any time after 1 pm until 8 am the following morning. Which I think represents very good value for money.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]Sounds like very good value for money. I'll definitely give it a try when I come to Bangkok later this year.
How long beforehand would it be recommendable to order a popular girl like EE for a take out?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1407233]I really doubt there are many falling for $100 girls. We know what they are there for and the girls know what they are there for.
Quickies with a pretty girl.
Dr BJ mentioned bargirls may be a bit more in tune with economices thean we give them credit for. I don't think this is the case for the majority. But I do question some of the customer economics theory. LOL. If a 1000 guys pay $100 at a top agogo for a quickie then its a pretty good indication its not a ripoff price-its the price the buyers and sellers have established-a fair price.[/QUOTE]Harold, if you are paying a 600 baht barfine, then 2k for ST, and buying a couple of drinks; guess what? You have spent 100 bucks. If 1000 guys pay that, then there are 1000 fools. And BTW, the quickie thing was not the rule until rather recently.
Do not let low season stop you from going. I am in Thailand two times a year for three months each time. The cool season and the low season. And I am there for the low season because of it being that; the low season. Less farang walking around but still lots of talent in various venues. So go. And enjoy!
[QUOTE=Puttex; 1407062]I wonder if it is a BAD time going to BKK in June / July is I am going for the girls only?
Is it lowseason in BKK and no good looking girls in the bars?
Damn I have already booked my tickets 25 June. 5 July.
But IF there are as much girls in the bars but not as much customers in the summer it whould be a GOOD time to visit becouse its more good looking girls but not so many gauy after them? .
Hmmmm help me here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1407406]Do not let low season stop you from going. I am in Thailand two times a year for three months each time. The cool season and the low season. And I am there for the low season because of it being that; the low season. Less farang walking around but still lots of talent in various venues. So go. And enjoy![/QUOTE]Two times a year for three months each makes 6 months. You cover the whole year more or less, LOL
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1407389]Harold, if you are paying a 600 baht barfine, then 2k for ST, and buying a couple of drinks; guess what? You have spent 100 bucks. If 1000 guys pay that, then there are 1000 fools. And BTW, the quickie thing was not the rule until rather recently.[/QUOTE]I think the reference of the 100$ girls covers that anount going to the girl, not the amount spent during the course of the evening to entartain yourself, including then BF, drinks etc.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1407412]I think the reference of the 100$ girls covers that anount going to the girl, not the amount spent during the course of the evening to entartain yourself, including then BF, drinks etc.[/QUOTE]There's a difference between evening's entertainment, and an almost-mandatory lady drink or two, unavoidable barfine and negotiated fare. For the non-drinkers, also throw in the cost of our drink while we choose. It doesn't matter exactly how much goes to the girl. Punters in Amsterdam or Frankfurt RLDs are not considering the the room rental costs and taxes either (which can be substantial) , what matters is total cost.
Wing man. I will be there on the 11 of April where can we meet up, let me know and I ill be there.
[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1407122]Hello colleagues,
I'm coming to BKK in the coming days and wouldn't mind a wingman to go to:
1. High-end soapies.
2. G-clubs
3. Clubs.
PM me, if interested.
A[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1407412]I think the reference of the 100$ girls covers that anount going to the girl, not the amount spent during the course of the evening to entartain yourself, including then BF, drinks etc.[/QUOTE]No, I made the reference myself. It all adds up to the cost of getting laid. Can't take a gal out of a bar without a BF. Can't really BF without buying at least two drinks: one for you and one for her. That is why I limited it to 100 US. That is about the minimum you will spend to get laid in a gogo, if you are paying the gal 2k for your 15 min wham bam ST.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1407427]There's a difference between evening's entertainment, and an almost-mandatory lady drink or two, unavoidable barfine and negotiated fare. For the non-drinkers, also throw in the cost of our drink while we choose. It doesn't matter exactly how much goes to the girl. Punters in Amsterdam or Frankfurt RLDs are not considering the the room rental costs and taxes either (which can be substantial) , what matters is total cost.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Of course some of this increase is marked by the fall of Western currencies, but 2k for ST is still 100% more than 10 years ago and beer prices in some gogos are 100% more as well. As few as 7 years ago I would spend about 75 USD for dinner, drinks (more than enough to get a buzz) , BF, ST, and ST hotel. Now it would be about twice that, and the main point; the service level has decreased geometrically. If the girls were better looking, gave better service, the drinks were stronger, etc. But hey, that is not the case is it? Quite the contrary. But hey, it is bad in the West and the new and newish dudes are thrilled just to be getting their the*cks wet in something under 85 kilos in weight.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1407389]Harold, if you are paying a 600 baht barfine, then 2k for ST, and buying a couple of drinks; guess what? You have spent 100 bucks. If 1000 guys pay that, then there are 1000 fools. And BTW, the quickie thing was not the rule until rather recently.[/QUOTE]Hear, hear!
That's the minimum. And it's insanity. This ain't the West.
I rarely did short times, but I don't recall any short time that wasn't at least 2 hours. What's the point of a 15 minute quickie? Have the JP ruined the market that badly, or are younger guys just idiots? Why put up with that bullshit?
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1407535]Hear, hear!
That's the minimum. And it's insanity. This ain't the West.
I rarely did short times, but I don't recall any short time that wasn't at least 2 hours. What's the point of a 15 minute quickie? Have the JP ruined the market that badly, or are younger guys just idiots? Why put up with that bullshit?[/QUOTE]With the exception of here, I have never been to any city where 1 payment. 1 shot is not the gold standard. And to stick your dick in a hole, any hole, any where for less than $100 is cheap.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1407535]Hear, hear!
That's the minimum. And it's insanity. This ain't the West.
I rarely did short times, but I don't recall any short time that wasn't at least 2 hours. What's the point of a 15 minute quickie? Have the JP ruined the market that badly, or are younger guys just idiots? Why put up with that bullshit?[/QUOTE]All around you SE Asia is changing- standards of living are rising, incomes are increasing, jobs are easier to get.
It is called economic development.
It is a pity that you, and many others still expect beer to be 20 cents a glass and the ladies to lie down and open their legs for $10.
Get over it and accept the inevitable. Are you still paying 1- and paying Ł5 for a fuck at home?
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1407293]Our policy on out call is any time after 1 pm until 8 am the following morning. Which I think represents very good value for money.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]I have no axe to grind with Dr BJ or his business and I am not as familiar with the Bangkok scene as most members but describing as good value having to wait till 1am then paying 5000 baht for a BJ bar lady to stay untill 8am is a stretch. The most I have paid for LT in Bangkok was 6000 but that was with an exceptionally attractive intelligent woman I met at Mixx who stayed with me till noon next day. Mostly I paid 2500 to 3000. Without sounding too dismissive in my experience the ladies who work BJ bars are on the lower rungs of desirable companions, they may be good for a 30 min experience but paying 5000 to spend time with them sorry not at all "very good value for money".
This is the GFE from Spanky's. Some pretty big fricken lips!
I have mongered in Bangkok many times, last time a couple of years ago. Reading several reports on prices, here is my take:
- There is no list or fixed price everything is very easily pleasantly negotiable most of the time the general policy is 'no valid offer will be refused'.
- I have had 2 great girls for 1500B, singles 600. 1000B (I mean good 6-8 types)
Best prices are
- During the day not too many mongeres
- Or early in the evening. Catch them early for a quick shot / ST extra money for girl.
- Or late night desperation sets in.
Go-Go places and MPs are not the best places for prices at least.
Beer Garten (Soi 7/1) good day place but availability / quality varies a lot be patient buy a drink for yourself and others have fun. Wait and watch.
Soi-3 Around Grace Hotel, the coffee / tea bar in the corner good for afternoon and early evening pickups, some East Europeans occasionally hang out around here, don't hesitate to ask SWs. Best is the Bamboo bar plenty of semi-pros lot of choice the going rate is 3K all night but again negotiable. (Bamboo bar has a great live band + drinks fairly prices + good late night food (Mediterranean) but about tiny 100B cover). I have got the best chicks from Bamboo bar (7. 9).
Bottom line do not pay too much, it spoils / distorts market for all. (Also flying to BKK costs plenty).
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1407550]Exchange rates do matter but not to the girls. Thats our problem. The govts we elect seem to think the only way to solve problems is inflate the money supply.
2003 st Rainbow girls was 2000. Today most still go for 2000.
No offense Mr G but you don't seem to be comparing apples to apples. You need to compare ugly girl prices to ugly girl prices, I doubt they doubled in 10 years time.
Again theres just too much supply of non attractive girls to make price increases stick. If hot girls ask too much guys will just go ugly. LOL.
Mr G has a different perspective than most of us. AGAIN BKK is not as bad a Mr G makes it out to be. Far from it.[/QUOTE]Harold, Ask most long term residents, and they will disagree with you. Attitudes, looks, etc. 2k in '03? Nah, never paid over 1k in the Rainbow bars, back then, even though most gals asked for 1500. Apples to apples Harold, prices were pretty standard in '99 and '03 and for the most part they are today. I was in R4 for the first time in about a year last night about 1030 and must admit I was not that impressed. A few good bodies to be had, but facially (no pun intended) most girls were not that attractive. The ones that I did talk to were not so nice, in a hurry, not so happy that I could speak their language, and add to that the crowd and the bad loud dance music (of course this has always been a feature of the Rainbow bars) ; all in all not so fun. Smiled at one of the better lookers as she returned from a 20 min ST (we were timing gals). Asked "Sanuk mai?" She just scowled. That's really loving your job, eh? Just about sums up much of the GoGo scene these days. If she would have smiled at me, licked her lips, and said something dirty, I would have taken her on the spot.
But it really is all perception. I am sure new guys are thrilled with the scene. Good on 'them.
And yes, it has all increased. Many of the old hags in the BG Soi 7 are asking for 1500. Some even 2k.
You are correct about the supply. With unemployment under 1% fewer and fewer gals go into the "biz." Also gals who speak, read, and write English can do far better on the 'net and hey, who can blame them? Good for them.
Truth be told there are not a whole lot of long term residents that post on forums. Still not sure why I do. That being said, most of the long term residents I know share my opinion. Of course we all grow and change, hopefully. And for many of us the charms of a farm girl with a sixth grade education has worn off a bit; well, if she is a nympho with the skills of a porn star, a great attitude, nice, and a perfect body (not going to get too many perfect faces with Isaan gals) , perhaps not. But the "sort of" good looker who is mediocre in the sack, in a hurry, and not so nice, begins to hold very little charm.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1407588]All around you SE Asia is changing- standards of living are rising, incomes are increasing, jobs are easier to get.
It is called economic development.
It is a pity that you, and many others still expect beer to be 20 cents a glass and the ladies to lie down and open their legs for $10.
Get over it and accept the inevitable. Are you still paying 1- and paying Ł5 for a fuck at home?[/QUOTE]Actually a great craft beer on tap is in most US cities about 5. 6 dollars a pint. In many BKK bars you will pay over 6 USD for poor quality local brew. And, salaries are far higher in the West.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1407583]Actually Mr G and I agree agogos are not the best value. But they are not ripoffs!
Ill bring in another point of view. The Girls point of view. I've told my favorite she is an expensive proposition (bad value) but I do her only because I really like her. Taken by itself maybe agogo barfining is reasonable but not when you compare it to other options out there.
She says she not expensive- can't really argue with that as guys take her everyday. At her price.
Funny tidbit. I barfined my current favorite 6 times in 29 days. And 1 time in the last 18 days. Finally I think she realizes I cut back because of price- not because I don't like her anymore.
She is a star so I wish her well. And yes, I plan to do her more times, never have I fallen for a hooker so BAD, its so much fun though. At the end of the day I know I'm just a customer so thats where the business aspects rear its ugly head, and makes me think twice on how I want to spend my money.
I'm really not into spoiling the market for others. LOL.[/QUOTE]Interesting Harold. Perhaps many of our difference have to do with our different modes of operating. I rarely take a gal, no matter how good a performer she is, more than once. If she is amazing I might do her again a few months later, but rarely have I had gals three times.
Hey, good on the gals. It is the dudes that drive the price, not the gals. One thing that was great about AC was the standardized prices.
[QUOTE=Oidar;1407546]With the exception of here, I have never been to any city where 1 payment. 1 shot is not the gold standard. And to stick your dick in a hole, any hole, any where for less than $100 is cheap.[/QUOTE]And that is exactly what made BKK and other SE Asian cities pretty great. Too bad to see it all ending.
[QUOTE=GerryGa;1407644]I have no axe to grind with Dr BJ or his business and I am not as familiar with the Bangkok scene as most members but describing as good value having to wait till 1am then paying 5000 baht for a BJ bar lady to stay untill 8am is a stretch. The most I have paid for LT in Bangkok was 6000 but that was with an exceptionally attractive intelligent woman I met at Mixx who stayed with me till noon next day. Mostly I paid 2500 to 3000. Without sounding too dismissive in my experience the ladies who work BJ bars are on the lower rungs of desirable companions, they may be good for a 30 min experience but paying 5000 to spend time with them sorry not at all "very good value for money".[/QUOTE]Sorry, got my ams and pms mixed up. The extended time makes it more attractive for sure but 5000 for Lt with a BJ bar girl with all the other possibilities available on the FL scene.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1407588]Get over it and accept the inevitable.[/QUOTE]Valid, but that acceptance will of course have to be by both partners in this arrangement (Falang & Thai).
Every action is going to have an effect.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1408030]Rainbows were never thought of as a place for pse, get over it.
I barfined my favorite again last night. The magic is back. She showered, I watched as usual, she got dressed. She was going out the door with no payment. LOL. I had to remind her she was working. LOL.[/QUOTE]Ya should have taken the freebie!
Had some great PSEs from Rainbow back in 99-02. But now, you are correct sir.
[QUOTE=GerryGa;1407644]I have no axe to grind with Dr BJ or his business and I am not as familiar with the Bangkok scene as most members but describing as good value having to wait till 1am then paying 5000 baht for a BJ bar lady to stay untill 8am is a stretch. The most I have paid for LT in Bangkok was 6000 but that was with an exceptionally attractive intelligent woman I met at Mixx who stayed with me till noon next day. Mostly I paid 2500 to 3000. Without sounding too dismissive in my experience the ladies who work BJ bars are on the lower rungs of desirable companions, they may be good for a 30 min experience but paying 5000 to spend time with them sorry not at all "very good value for money".[/QUOTE]Hey mate you obviously didn't read this DR guys original post properly and then went steaming off on one, slagging him off. He said 1PM as in afternoon not 1 am as in morning, LOL. You missed his quote by 12 hours. Thanks for drawing my attention to this as I reckon 5000bt for up to 17 hours doesn't mean "good" value for money it represents "great" value for money. We all make mistakes but I think you owe this Dr an apology. Now I am going to have to visit his place to see what all this fuss is about, cheers for the heads up GerryGa.
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[QUOTE=FrankieT035;1407508]Wing man. I will be there on the 11 of April where can we meet up, let me know and I ill be there.[/QUOTE]HAHAHA. I am laughing at some of these posts. Just funny really no harm.
So you are going to be his wingman with 2 posts? Let me guess, you have been coming here for many years. If you did not know, a wingman usually has some knowledge of a place to assist. But go for it and I am looking forward to the 2 of you making reports on your experiences. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1407998]And that is exactly what made BKK and other SE Asian cities pretty great. Too bad to see it all ending.[/QUOTE]HAHA. You really?
What is all ending?
I am here now and everything is the same. Maybe better. 500B in Pattaya for great GFE. 1000 B for 24 hour GFE.
BKK. 1000 B or less for GFE.
You talking Gogo's or Escorts? Yeah, they are tourist rip off places. I am sure you know that.
I have been coming to Thailand for awhile and am finding it better than ever.
[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1407959]I have mongered in Bangkok many times, last time a couple of years ago. Reading several reports on prices, here is my take:
- There is no list or fixed price everything is very easily pleasantly negotiable most of the time the general policy is 'no valid offer will be refused'.
- I have had 2 great girls for 1500B, singles 600. 1000B (I mean good 6-8 types)
Best prices are
- During the day not too many mongeres
- Or early in the evening. Catch them early for a quick shot / ST extra money for girl.
- Or late night desperation sets in.
Go-Go places and MPs are not the best places for prices at least.
Beer Garten (Soi 7/1) good day place but availability / quality varies a lot be patient buy a drink for yourself and others have fun. Wait and watch.
Soi-3 Around Grace Hotel, the coffee / tea bar in the corner good for afternoon and early evening pickups, some East Europeans occasionally hang out around here, don't hesitate to ask SWs. Best is the Bamboo bar plenty of semi-pros lot of choice the going rate is 3K all night but again negotiable. (Bamboo bar has a great live band + drinks fairly prices + good late night food (Mediterranean) but about tiny 100B cover). I have got the best chicks from Bamboo bar (7. 9).
Bottom line do not pay too much, it spoils / distorts market for all. (Also flying to BKK costs plenty).
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]HI. HAHAHAHA.
So you have not been here for a few years and you are giving us advice about places and your expertise on prices?
Thanks, I agree, I think everyone should listen. Thank you so much.
[QUOTE=GerryGa;1407644]I have no axe to grind with Dr BJ or his business and I am not as familiar with the Bangkok scene as most members but describing as good value having to wait till 1am then paying 5000 baht for a BJ bar lady to stay untill 8am is a stretch. The most I have paid for LT in Bangkok was 6000 but that was with an exceptionally attractive intelligent woman I met at Mixx who stayed with me till noon next day. Mostly I paid 2500 to 3000. Without sounding too dismissive in my experience the ladies who work BJ bars are on the lower rungs of desirable companions, they may be good for a 30 min experience but paying 5000 to spend time with them sorry not at all "very good value for money".[/QUOTE]Really? So you have taken them?
I have taken 2 LT from Dr. BJ at the 3000 B rate. I picked them up in the afternoon, not 1am.
They were awesome 3 holers who were great fucks and nice girls. One took me to her house and cooked me dinner.
The girls get 1/2 of of the 3K. So if you tip, base it on that.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;1407959]I have mongered in Bangkok many times, last time a couple of years ago. Reading several reports on prices, here is my take.[/QUOTE]Quite frankly wasted space as far as your information is concerned. The world, SE Asia, Thailand and in particular Bangkok have moved on.
The 10p / pint and the Ł5 f*ck are long gone in the UK and you prices are useful for historical comparison but useless for today's newbie.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1407996]Interesting Harold. Perhaps many of our difference have to do with our different modes of operating. I rarely take a gal, no matter how good a performer she is, more than once. If she is amazing I might do her again a few months later, but rarely have I had gals three times.[/QUOTE]That is a very Thai approach, mainly practiced by Thais because they often don't want to get too attached to any one girl. For me its hard to cast a girl aside, when I know how great she can be, and potentially waste time on a total flop. Many of us want the best girl available and don't find that to be boring. Some of us want a sure thing since our time is more valuable. Hence like to collect several no-risk regulars. No much time wasted hunting. Of course its the hunt that some guys enjoy. Too much spare time on the hands.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1408162]HAHA. You really?
What is all ending?
I am here now and everything is the same. Maybe better. 500B in Pattaya for great GFE. 1000 B for 24 hour GFE.
BKK. 1000 B or less for GFE.
You talking Gogo's or Escorts? Yeah, they are tourist rip off places. I am sure you know that.
I have been coming to Thailand for awhile and am finding it better than ever.[/QUOTE]Speaking of big cities Luv, not the Patters. Pattaya is still ok for chicks, if you can tolerate the horrid tourist demographic it attracts these days.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1408174]That is a very Thai approach, mainly practiced by Thais because they often don't want to get too attached to any one girl. For me its hard to cast a girl aside, when I know how great she can be, and potentially waste time on a total flop. Many of us want the best girl available and don't find that to be boring. Some of us want a sure thing since our time is more valuable. Hence like to collect several no-risk regulars. No much time wasted hunting. Of course its the hunt that some guys enjoy. Too much spare time on the hands.[/QUOTE]I get the no-risk regular thing, but have found after a few encounters the service tends to drop off a bit and I start having to hear about the "family."
No worries about getting attached here. For me, once I have shot my wad, I can't get out of there fast enough. Well, might try to reload on a 90 min oily and fire off another shot. The reality hits after the white is out. These are simple girls with very little education and a very limited world view. They are wonderful for an hour, but really if you are an educated dude, what else you going to get out of it? Why in the world would you want to "take care" of a girl?
IMHO, most of these working girls have very little to offer besides their holes. Really, are you going to be able to have an in depth discussion about anything with them? Are they going to help foster your career? What are they themselves actually going to contribute? What are they bringing to the table besides sex? Normally the burden and expectations of taking care of them and their families is what they bring. No thanks. I'll take the holes on an hourly basis.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1407583]Funny tidbit. I barfined my current favorite 6 times in 29 days.[/QUOTE]That sounds more like a girlfriend instead of a hooker. If I wanted to fuck the same girl over and over then I would just get a girlfriend. The fun of mongering is the variety of going from girl to girl. I've never paid a bar fine in Thailand before, but I'm curious as to why a person would still be paying a bar for the same girl after the first time. It seems to me that when you fuck her the first time you would exchange numbers with her and just call her to come on her own. It's like asking the parents' permission to date their daughter each time before you take her out instead of only doing it the first time. If you already have your foot in the door with the source, why keep going back to the middle man?
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1408201]No worries about getting attached here. These are simple girls with very little education and a very limited world view. They are wonderful for an hour, but really if you are an educated dude, what else you going to get out of it? Why in the world would you want to "take care" of a girl?
IMHO, most of these working girls have very little to offer besides their holes. Really, are you going to be able to have an in depth discussion about anything with them? Are they going to help foster your career? What are they themselves actually going to contribute? What are they bringing to the table besides sex? Normally the burden and expectations of taking care of them and their families is what they bring. No thanks. I'll take the holes on an hourly basis.[/QUOTE]Report of Distinction! (Besides that they are hookers and this ain't Pretty Woman.)
First day here. Damage 25 baht. Girl didn't want to go right to room so did the Thai version of dinner and a movie. Bought her a kiwi soda (tasted like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] when I asked her a sip) around the corner, then took her home and blew a huge load in her mouth. No spit. Good girl. About to kick her out and ask her to kiss my dick for good luck, felt a little life and get her to suck, lead to anal and load number 2 over her chest and then kick out. Offer her taxi money, but refused. Bangkok rules. Thai girls are cool. Not sure if the girl has sold her pussy but a very good performer. Think the girl just loves dick and not looking for more. If you want a friend with benefits or no p4p lay, would love to pass her off to a guy or 2 here. Looking for good valuable info in return (saving money is always a good one).
P. S. First time taking sideagra. Stuff works. Well done Thailand.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1408201]Normally the burden and expectations of taking care of them and their families is what they bring.[/QUOTE]You mean, you are not interested in the dead grandmothers and the sick waterbuffaloes? Weird ... ;)
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1408243]P. S. First time taking sideagra. Stuff works. Well done Thailand.[/QUOTE]I have heard about this from friends who live in Pattaya. Where did you buy it and how much did it cost? Last question how long do you think the effect lasts?
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1407996]I rarely take a gal, no matter how good a performer she is, more than once. If she is amazing I might do her again a few months later, but rarely have I had gals three times.[/QUOTE]1000 percent agree. I find the dreaded "GFE" is my worst friend. I want the good hooker experience. She knows why she's there and does what I tell her when I tell her. Period."Girlfriends" are entitled to be treated like girlfriends meaning they can say "no" or even "later" which is altogether unacceptable. Thats what the money is for.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1408214]Very interesting approach. I don't see anything wrong getting attached to a hooker. LOL. It adds a lot more fun to the experience.
Although if you told me before I came to BKK that people get hooked regularly on hookers I would have said you are out of your mind. No longer do I think this. LOL.
The flip side is if you can't handle falling for a hooker then I can see a world of problems for the guy.
Take the business out of the transaction the girls wouldn't touch us with a 10 foot pole. Knowing this keeps a person grounded no matter how bad you fall for a HOOKER![/QUOTE]One of my friends once said,"Guys don't come to Thailand to f*ck hookers, they come to Thailand to date hookers." In many cases this is true and leads to lots of despair and the loss of lots of cash. Bet there are very few guys who "date" the hookers in Ams. Hookers are hookers. The only difference is the venue.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1408390]One of my friends once said,"Guys don't come to Thailand to f*ck hookers, they come to Thailand to date hookers." In many cases this is true and leads to lots of despair and the loss of lots of cash.[/QUOTE]Not to mention loss of life when the guy jumps off a balcony.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1408243]First day here. Damage 25 baht. Girl didn't want to go right to room so did the Thai version of dinner and a movie. Bought her a kiwi soda (tasted like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] when I asked her a sip) around the corner, then took her home and blew a huge load in her mouth. No spit. Good girl. About to kick her out and ask her to kiss my dick for good luck, felt a little life and get her to suck, lead to anal and load number 2 over her chest and then kick out. Offer her taxi money, but refused. Bangkok rules. Thai girls are cool. Not sure if the girl has sold her pussy but a very good performer. Think the girl just loves dick and not looking for more. If you want a friend with benefits or no p4p lay, would love to pass her off to a guy or 2 here. Looking for good valuable info in return (saving money is always a good one).
P. S. First time taking sideagra. Stuff works. Well done Thailand.[/QUOTE]Wow. Got to commend you. You apparently found the only girl in all of LOS who does CIM, Anal, has no interest in money and may have never sold her pussy before. Really? And for 25 baht? (perhaps that's a typo). AND she refused taxi money?
Let me guess. Your next TR will be how you found a leprechaun and the Easter Bunny bonking under the stairs at the Nana BTS station.
Not sure why you're looking for "good valuable info" because you already have it all figured out.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1408407]Not to mention loss of life when the guy jumps off a balcony.[/QUOTE]The Pattaya Flying Club seems to always be adding members. Really, would you date a girl with a 6th grade education from a very poor family in your home country? Probably not. You might not even have sex with her.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1408311]I have heard about this from friends who live in Pattaya. Where did you buy it and how much did it cost? Last question how long do you think the effect lasts?
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]Pharmacy hopping in BKK. Cheap for 4 tablets. Maybe you find better price then me and can report. Probably a little weaker then Viagra but still respectable.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1408413]Wow. Got to commend you. You apparently found the only girl in all of LOS who does CIM, Anal, has no interest in money and may have never sold her pussy before. Really? And for 25 baht? (perhaps that's a typo). AND she refused taxi money?
Let me guess. Your next TR will be how you found a leprechaun and the Easter Bunny bonking under the stairs at the Nana BTS station.
Not sure why you're looking for "good valuable info" because you already have it all figured out.[/QUOTE]Not sure if this is sarcasm but I am younger, decent looking guy, with lots of confidence and game and still a pain in the dick to get a girl in America, so a nice step up. If I'm fucking a bar girl, she is going to have be the hottest. Freelancer prices and she is going to have to have a redeemable quality like big tits. Average girls, I'm only going to spend lunch money and this girl was just average in my opinion and older them I like them (20-26). I'm sure many of guys would love a girl like this on their team but I am trying to form a dream team out here. Never have it all figured it out and succeed by interacting with many, many, many, many girls.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1408201]I get the no-risk regular thing, but have found after a few encounters the service tends to drop off a bit and I start having to hear about the "family."
No worries about getting attached here. For me, once I have shot my wad, I can't get out of there fast enough. Well, might try to reload on a 90 min oily and fire off another shot. The reality hits after the white is out. These are simple girls with very little education and a very limited world view. They are wonderful for an hour, but really if you are an educated dude, what else you going to get out of it? Why in the world would you want to "take care" of a girl?
IMHO, most of these working girls have very little to offer besides their holes. Really, are you going to be able to have an in depth discussion about anything with them? Are they going to help foster your career? What are they themselves actually going to contribute? What are they bringing to the table besides sex? Normally the burden and expectations of taking care of them and their families is what they bring. No thanks. I'll take the holes on an hourly basis.[/QUOTE]This statement is so true) but I can understand why some guys get confused, the line between hookers and "normal" girls is very slim in this country.
If you don't speak thai and don't work there, then 99. 9% of the girls you will meet & get access are WG, ex-WG or part time WG : bars, clubs, malls, etc.
The "real" normal girls will never go out with a foreigner that don't meet these 2 requirements above. So better be realistic,"walking ATM" is how these girls see you, no feelings, just business)
Funny story. Don't underestimate these girls.
First, I am a pretty intelligent guy. Had profitable business for 7 years at young age. Used to be good at video and board games. Was ranked number 1 in world in particular online game.
Was at Pattaya bar and playing strategy games with the bar girls. Well, they smashed my face in 7 games in a row. I was shocked.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1408474]don't know the demogrpahics and the activities of a sex touriist. But are there really that many guys who date 6th grade edukated girls from poor familiees? Real dating, not guys who pay girls and call them their girlfriends when all they are are customers. I surely don't and probably never will.
Now if my country's 6th grade edukated girls from poor families looked like my current Rainbow 4 favorite I just might romance her. LOL.
I just refuse to believe the majority of guys who come to enjoy Thailand farm girls are that stupid. We take what the girls offer. We not trying to rescue them or revive their sick buffalos. On the flip side I refuse to believe the girls are stupid either, spreading their legs is just a job to them. They know whats up.
Its another situation where its win win. I f it wasnt I surely wouldn't come here. I really don't need thai culture. LOL.
Very pretty Rainbow 2 girl. 2000 +600 bf=2600 or $85. Not a bad deal if you get can get an hour out of her (easier said than done). I just might give it a try as my fav. In is nong khai for 10 days. Only red flag is she really does look in the mirror too much in the bar, always messing with her hair.[/QUOTE]Harold, you would be surprised. I know dudes with PHDs that have married uneducated farm girls. They stick it in and in sex seconds they are in love. The majority of bar girls have finished Po-6, sixth grade, fewer have finished Mo-3, eight grade, and fewer still Mo-6, or high school. Most all of the guys who are dating and marry bar girls are getting just this, and most of the older family members have even less education.
They do know what's up. Normally far more than their customers.
85 USD, well when you add in drinks and ST hotel that becomes more like 110 USD. I would say that is expensive for an hour. 2k baht, well that is 66 USD per hour. That is a huge wage when it comes down to it. Pretty good for a sixth grade "edumacation." Then again most squander it on their "families" and retire from the biz with nothing.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1408201]These are simple girls with very little education and a very limited world view.[/quote]My experience too. In many ways the asian equivalent of the simple blonde barbie girl who likes all things pink.
Well, she can have the 'pink' from me, but she won't be interested in discussing the current North Korea situation.
[QUOTE=Bishop80; 1407387]Sounds like very good value for money. I'll definitely give it a try when I come to Bangkok later this year.
How long beforehand would it be recommendable to order a popular girl like EE for a take out?[/QUOTE]Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I would recommend about one week in advance to make a booking, especially for a lady like EE who is one of our most popular ladies. You can make a booking either by email or by calling (both can be found on our web site).
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1408513].I know dudes with PHDs that have married uneducated farm girls. They stick it in and in sex seconds they are in love. The majority of bar girls have finished Po-6, sixth grade, fewer have finished Mo-3, eight grade, and fewer still Mo-6, or high school. Most all of the guys who are dating and marry bar girls are getting just this, and most of the older family members have even less education. They do know what's up. Normally far more than their customers.[/QUOTE]My guess is that there are cases of 'opposites attract' going on there.
Basic and lighthearted will be experienced as a 'relieving' medicine by intellectual types.
Which is ok until the point where common ground is looked for, and is nowhere to be seen.
It's fun to fuck a Barbie Girl, and sometimes the ones offering services in Thailand are like that. Or maybe a better description is the 'street smart' type who are clever in their own field of operations but whos outlook is limited beyond new mobile phones and cartoon watching.
decided to hit it big today.
1. sw named pim. on nana against the wall near car lot at annie's. 1000 b. took her to my hotel. good gfe, friendly smile awesome time.
2. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. took ploy. nice gfe made me very happy.
3. aviva massage soi 8. nikki. very cute face. she has an athletic body. great gfe. very aggressive fuck. highly recommend.
4. dr. bj nuru. my first time here. nice place. took the 2k nuru. cute young thing age 23. i did not see her braces until we were in room. but she bbbj great. they pour nuru gel on you as you lay on a mattress. then she get naked and rubs her tits, pussy, and ass on front and back. bbbj, kissing and fs. a great time.
5. sw named fon. standing right in front of starbucks. sweet young surin pussy new in town. full gfe. man was she fun.
i snapped as many shots as possible. it is difficult during while i am fucking. dr bj girl said no, against policy. no problem.
what a great fucking day! i am beat, but i think i can get one more later. we will see. i love this town!!
ps: i know i should have called an escort. i tried but they did not answer. hahahaha.
[quote=luvpuss; 1408543]decided to hit it big today.
1. sw named pim. on nana against the wall near car lot at annie's. 1000 b. took her to my hotel. good gfe, friendly smile awesome time.
2. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. took ploy. nice gfe made me very happy.
3. aviva massage soi 8. nikki. very cute face. she has an athletic body. great gfe. very aggressive fuck. highly recommend.
4. dr. bj nuru. my first time here. nice place. took the 2k nuru. cute young thing age 23. i did not see her braces until we were in room. but she bbbj great. they pour nuru gel on you as you lay on a mattress. then she get naked and rubs her tits, pussy, and ass on front and back. bbbj, kissing and fs. a great time.
5. sw named fon. standing right in front of starbucks. sweet young surin pussy new in town. full gfe. man was she fun.
i snapped as many shots as possible. it is difficult during while i am fucking. dr bj girl said no, against policy. no problem.
what a great fucking day! i am beat, but i think i can get one more later. we will see. i love this town!
ps: i know i should have called an escort. i tried but they did not answer. hahahaha.[/quote]i think i saw you today. were you wearing a blue suit with a red cape and an s on your chest? hahahahahhaaha.
how do you do it man? what a machine lol
While you're at it can you please hit up Elena from Subway Soi 7. 1? Short blond haired Russian chick sitting outside. We are in lack of any FR's of her. Soon I am thinking of doing her myself just to ease my curiosity but I feel you are in a much better aiming possition (beeing in BKK and all) to repair this gaping hole in girlsreporting inside here.
Seems like you have a blast. Stay tuned and remember when shit hits the fan you allways have some escort you could call. All this written with a humoristic twist I may add. Love your work!
[quote=luvpuss; 1408543]decided to hit it big today.
1. sw named pim. on nana against the wall near car lot at annie's. 1000 b. took her to my hotel. good gfe, friendly smile awesome time.
2. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. took ploy. nice gfe made me very happy.
3. aviva massage soi 8. nikki. very cute face. she has an athletic body. great gfe. very aggressive fuck. highly recommend.
4. dr. bj nuru. my first time here. nice place. took the 2k nuru. cute young thing age 23. i did not see her braces until we were in room. but she bbbj great. they pour nuru gel on you as you lay on a mattress. then she get naked and rubs her tits, pussy, and ass on front and back. bbbj, kissing and fs. a great time.
5. sw named fon. standing right in front of starbucks. sweet young surin pussy new in town. full gfe. man was she fun.
i snapped as many shots as possible. it is difficult during while i am fucking. dr bj girl said no, against policy. no problem.
what a great fucking day! i am beat, but i think i can get one more later. we will see. i love this town!
ps: i know i should have called an escort. i tried but they did not answer. hahahaha.[/quote]dude! impressive. your p*cker should be bronzed and enshrined.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1408543]Decided to hit it big today. PS: I know I should have called an escort. I tried but they did not answer. HAHAHAHA.[/QUOTE]Of course they did not answer. They were all busy hitting the streets to be able to meet you!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1408513]2k baht, well that is 66 USD per hour. That is a huge wage when it comes down to it. Pretty good for a sixth grade "edumacation." Then again most squander it on their "families" and retire from the biz with nothing.[/QUOTE]It always depends how many of these hours they work a day.
My car servicing is charging pretty much that amount per hour, but they fill 8hrs a day at that rate, so do the math. Will a BG do as an average 3-4 ST at that rate?
Some, but only few will, so one cannot generalize of high income. Still 2k baht a day can be a lot for their standard, no doubt.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1408579]It always depends how many of these hours they work a day.
My car servicing is charging pretty much that amount per hour, but they fill 8hrs a day at that rate, so do the math. Will a BG do as an average 3-4 ST at that rate?
Some, but only few will, so one cannot generalize of high income. Still 2k baht a day can be a lot for their standard, no doubt.[/QUOTE]It's great money for someone in Thailand without an education (or even with an education). People can talk about a booming economy all they like, but in the end most people are still getting at best a few bucks an hour.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1408413]Wow. Got to commend you. You apparently found the only girl in all of LOS who does CIM, Anal, has no interest in money and may have never sold her pussy before. Really? And for 25 baht? (perhaps that's a typo). AND she refused taxi money?
Let me guess. Your next TR will be how you found a leprechaun and the Easter Bunny bonking under the stairs at the Nana BTS station.
Not sure why you're looking for "good valuable info" because you already have it all figured out.[/QUOTE]Too funny man. One never knows because mongers operate at different levels, some could be chick magnet younger guys that the girls love, (I now see below he mentions he's a younger guy) or regular Brad Pitt types, or real charmers. In any case I am still laughing at his classic and entertaining post a few weeks back:
(Quoting NeverGetsOld)
"My best resource has been an ok looking nana bar girl who " likes me?" and has given me free pussy 20 times with no end in sight. More importantly, is my hang out buddy who speaks decent enough English and has taught me many important things about Thailand (customs, where to eat, shop, massage, travel etc.) Not sure I quite get it if anyone has any opinions. Girl has even paid for a couple of my meals and turned down a big money offer to stay with a guy for 2 weeks to lick my asshole for free? I'm not complaining.
My worst experience was a tall blonde, aggressive girl with fake tits and tattoo on her shoulder blade at Rainbow 4 nana who speaks decent English. BEWARE! I will now never take an aggressive girl to my room again. First, she strangely seemed to be angry about a couple nice possessions I had in the hotel room like my luggage laying around. But onto my bed; 2, 3 minutes into fucking she was telling me to finish and closing her legs. Not liking her sex I offered her 1000 of the 2000 bar fine even though we just started fucking. She declined and told me to fuck and finish or something like that. We began to fuck again and I got a little aggressive pinning her down with my chest when she started squirming again but nothing crazy. Then she just slaps me hard without saying anything. Acting like it was too long and to pay her now (we just started!) Maybe a mistake? But after she hit me and basically didn't allow me to fuck her I wasn't giving her 1 baht and not budging. Well she wrecked my room and threw a hard object in my face. Made all kinds of threats including police. I was trying to teach her a lesson to not pull that on someone else but don't think it was worth the risk on my part. When I warned my hotel that she just wrecked my room and to look out for her and not let her come back to my room, they didn't seem to give two shits.
My other bad experience, I was stupid. I picked up a freelancer in Pattaya with giant tits for 1000 baht to stay for awhile. Her middle was a train wreck so I offered her 500 to leave after 10 mins. She didn't want to and got very mad and slammed the door when I stuck to my guns. Any advice on the best way to play this? I know I don't want to make anymore enemies or waste money.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1408468]Not sure if this is sarcasm but I am younger, decent looking guy, with lots of confidence and game and still a pain in the dick to get a girl in America, so a nice step up. If I'm fucking a bar girl, she is going to have be the hottest. Freelancer prices and she is going to have to have a redeemable quality like big tits. Average girls, I'm only going to spend lunch money and this girl was just average in my opinion and older them I like them (20-26). I'm sure many of guys would love a girl like this on their team but I am trying to form a dream team out here. Never have it all figured it out and succeed by interacting with many, many, many, many girls.[/QUOTE]You are probably not typical by monger standards in this region. Since you're a younger guy, do you find american girls (same as UK) are especially demanding these days? It used to be if the bloke had confidence and was a little bit of a dick, that would suffice, now they seem to want the money flying all over the place also, whether she's an amateur, semi pro, or pro.
I think Chris Rock got it right that 90% of the women want 10% of the guys. That is the case in America. I am not top 10% looks so I have to put in a tonnn of work to get pussy there. So first I started fucking around with American escorts and strip clubs. Make me sick when I think what I wasted on that. Then I started fucking around in the Caribbean (another small fortune) and ran through over 50 Colombianas and Dominicans. Latinas sexy as hell but never got close to the love that I'm getting from Thai girls.
You guys want porn star experience from bar girls? Smile at everyone and take the one that gives you most genuine (not fake) smile. I admit bar girls suck. Next time I'm craving a 10, I will blow some loot on an escort.
Some of you guys must have more power then me though because 36 hours in and my dick is already sore. 24 hour breather. Going to trade stocks now.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1408548](re : luvpuss) How do you do it man? What a machine LOL[/QUOTE]My theory is that he was a Celibate Monk in a former life, and now it is 'payback time'.
[QUOTE=Marky1;1408602]It's great money for someone in Thailand without an education (or even with an education). People can talk about a booming economy all they like, but in the end most people are still getting at best a few bucks an hour.[/QUOTE]We agree on this, no doubt!
BTW another free PSE from girl today that works in diamond shop.
Newest (2nd) member of my team but could easily cut. Shows up at my door, says she's "very hot" I say my room has ac.
Get right down to the biz. She actually wags my dick over her, Porn Star style when I pull it out to bust on her. Liked a little finger in the asshole but not too much and no dick (this time) 30 years old but cute. DO NOT like the hairy Asian pussy though. The few I've been in, were the largest pussies I seen down here.
Normal girls giving way better service then pros. Fucking bizarro world here. Crazy role reversals. Refused taxi money and cried when I kicked her out, wrote me 4 ignored emails since.
BTW decent looking guy but looked like shit last 2 days on no sleep. Scary the damage I am going to do here. Will probably get stabbed by crazy x thai boyfriend 1 of these time though.
Next time girl smiles at you after you order chicken satay is probably your free PSE you are missing out on.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1408543]PS: I know I should have called an escort. I tried but they did not answer. HAHAHAHA.[/QUOTE]Enjoyed the report and especially the pictures. I'm impressed. You have stamina! However, a good escort probably would have left you exhausted and fully satisfied, so you would have time on your hand to visit some temples. As to the above remark, sometimes the best agencies do not answer the phone when they are 100% booked.
Very very true, most girls hardly make any money at all. And the demand supply is completely out of whack. Anywhere you see. Girls to customer would be at least 3:1.
If you ask the girls. They would tell you. They barely can make rent.
At the end of the night you can very easily observe how many girls got business and home many are going empty handed.
Whole talk of booming economy and all that is hogwash. Reality is right in front of you. Too many girls everywhere all the time.
So monger on. Negotiate well, tip well, have lots of fun. That is what is BKK. Easy, cheap, hassle free.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1408603]I love Mr G. He brings up a lot of good observations.
But he also twists thing about in many many ways. $66 an hour is a great gig. If you can get it. I'm telling you most can't. The majority of girls are not commanding 2500 twice a night. I bet the majority are LUVPUSS's type girls having to survive on 700 a session. And they happy to get that.
To back me up the minimum to get full salary is ONLY 9 barfines in a month. Such a low number means most arent raking in big numbers of barfines.
The ez way to tell us how girls are doing is if we knew the median income of a hooker. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1408690]You guys more fun than a barrel of sick water buffaloes. LOL.
I bet being a successful stock trader is on par with being a big time prostitute!
Hows this. For advice- If you want porn star experince go where they work. LOL. Smiling aint going to get you a porn star. LOL.[/QUOTE]Naah, man. You've got it all wrong. Dude's got mad skills.
Only his second time in country, doesn't speak the language, doesn't know som tam from nam som, and already all the "allegedly" civilian chicks are falling all over themselves to do freebies.
In a culture where a smile means anything from friendship, to an apology, to embarrassment, to I want to slit your throat, the guy's got all that figured out as well. If the vendor smiles back at you, next thing you're screwing her brains out. I know we all believe him, right? I know I'm convinced.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1408494]Funny story. Don't underestimate these girls.
First, I am a pretty intelligent guy. Had profitable business for 7 years at young age. Used to be good at video and board games. Was ranked number 1 in world in particular online game.
Was at Pattaya bar and playing strategy games with the bar girls. Well, they smashed my face in 7 games in a row. I was shocked.[/QUOTE]They just probably knew the games tricks, and alcohol & emotion are always important factors (see casinos). I doubt all these bar girls were clones of Garry Kasparov) LOL)
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1408603]I love Mr G. He brings up a lot of good observations.
But he also twists thing about in many many ways. $66 an hour is a great gig. If you can get it. I'm telling you most can't. The majority of girls are not commanding 2500 twice a night. I bet the majority are LUVPUSS's type girls having to survive on 700 a session. And they happy to get that.
To back me up the minimum to get full salary is ONLY 9 barfines in a month. Such a low number means most arent raking in big numbers of barfines.
Theres one girl at Rainbow 4- I call her the MUTT of the bunch. LOL. She 's been there for years. The only way she gets called off stage is if she falls off the stage or the set ends. I think I only seen her barfined only once or twice- and that probably because she was part of a group. No way she she gets barfined on her own. I got to believe she is more representative of what goes on in the hooker business. Its so freakin hard to make it!
Another EX. The majority of major league baseball are not earning Alex Rod. Or Albert Pujols money. You cannot use them to give an accurate picture of what baseball players make.
The ez way to tell us how girls are doing is if we knew the median income of a hooker. LOL.[/QUOTE]But Harold, we are not interested in the MUTTS! LOL. Perhaps they are in the wrong biz.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1408579]It always depends how many of these hours they work a day.
My car servicing is charging pretty much that amount per hour, but they fill 8hrs a day at that rate, so do the math. Will a BG do as an average 3-4 ST at that rate?
Some, but only few will, so one cannot generalize of high income. Still 2k baht a day can be a lot for their standard, no doubt.[/QUOTE]Even at 2k every three days they are way above the Thai minimum wage of 300 baht a day. Most Uni grads are lucky to get 20k a month starting. Most get a little less.
if you don't believe me, you can come over and clean the cum off the girls after i bust on them if you like.
you got to pay me 500 baht for the privilege though and get to witness my other tricks i don't mention.
ain't no tycoon but scraping up $200 ain't hard and go a long way here.
could not hit #6 last night. drank and, and talked to a bunch of sw, and went to bed.
any of you have a monger bucket list? i do and have crossed off a few things. different races, etc. i am serious and not trying to make fun.
i fucked a midget in vegas for $300. she obviously did not have to get on knees for bbbj.
i also fucked a parapeligic in socal off one of the websites. not easy to fuck a girl in a wheel chair.
last night i met a sw here who is deaf. i saw her earlier doing sign language with another girl, so i believe it is legit. but, could be sex change from man who does not want to talk. anyway, she was signing me bbbj, fucking, etc. put up one finger, then made a k with her other finger for 1000 b. never had one on my list, but i think i might try to find her tonight.
this morning hit up [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for bbbj. ploy and bim are the best from my experience.
then was walking down 7/1 heading for dr. bj. but a girl on the right just after you enter the soi offers me massage. jlo ass.
it is not really a mp, but just a bunch rooms upstairs.
1500 b and stellar service and cum in pussy. at the money shot i said,"i am cumming", she said "inside". i did not know if that meant go ahead or don't. i said it again and she fucked faster and i fired away. she just smiled and wiggled.
photo below.
[quote=luvpuss; 1408921]could not hit #6 last night. drank and, and talked to a bunch of sw, and went to bed.
any of you have a monger bucket list? i do and have crossed off a few things. different races, etc. i am serious and not trying to make fun.
i fucked a midget in vegas for $300. she obviously did not have to get on knees for bbbj.
i also fucked a parapeligic in socal off one of the websites. not easy to fuck a girl in a wheel chair.
last night i met a sw here who is deaf. i saw her earlier doing sign language with another girl, so i believe it is legit. but, could be sex change from man who does not want to talk. anyway, she was signing me bbbj, fucking, etc. put up one finger, then made a k with her other finger for 1000 b. never had one on my list, but i think i might try to find her tonight.
this morning hit up [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for bbbj. ploy and bim are the best from my experience.
then was walking down 7/1 heading for dr. bj. but a girl on the right just after you enter the soi offers me massage. jlo ass.
it is not really a mp, but just a bunch rooms upstairs.
1500 b and stellar service and cum in pussy. at the money shot i said,"i am cumming", she said "inside". i did not know if that meant go ahead or don't. i said it again and she fucked faster and i fired away. she just smiled and wiggled.
photo below.[/quote]another good read. by the way, the first three sentences of my previous post were in earnest. then i used punctuation marks to create an emotive icon to make it clear everything after that was in jest. for some reason the moderator deleted these. i'm sure he did not intend to distort the motivations behind the post.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1408921]Last night I met a SW here who is deaf. I saw her earlier doing sign language with another girl, so I believe it is legit. But, could be sex change from man who does not want to talk. Anyway, She was signing me BBBJ, fucking, etc. Put up one finger, then made a K with her other finger for 1000 B. Never had one on my list, but I think I might try to find her tonight.[/QUOTE]It's legit. There are quite a few deaf-mutes working lower Suk. Most of the ones I've encountered were working as vendors.
A fave used to work at Rififi, and all the old timers probably knew her. She was long gone prior to it becoming Electric Blue. There's noting particularly different about them. It's just really hard to communicate outside the bedroom.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1408949]It's legit. There are quite a few deaf-mutes working lower Suk. Most of the ones I've encountered were working as vendors.
A fave used to work at Rififi, and all the old timers probably knew her. She was long gone prior to it becoming Electric Blue. There's noting particularly different about them. It's just really hard to communicate outside the bedroom.[/QUOTE]OK, thanks, I will got ry to find her tonight.
Just got back from a new adventure. I have read about the Skytrain action (haha) so thought I would give it a go. I caught it from Nana to Bearing. Not much potential at first. I was all the way to OH Nut and many ins and outs. I was looking for a tall girl with a shear dress. I wore my thin shorts with no underwear.
At Oh Nut, she walks on. Perfect. I am 6-3 and she was 5-9. Maybe LB. Anyway, alot of people got on and I maneuvered myself to her backside. Close quarters. The Skytrain kind of moves and shakes around as it goes, so no problem moving and rubbing my cock against her ass. Nothing after the next stop. Then with a little more maneuvering, I started to get hard. I could feel my cock between her ass crack. She looked back over her shoulder a few times, but never tried to move away. This went on for the next several stops until she got off the stop before Bearing. Fun time. If I was 18 again, I probably would have let go.
No action on the way back to Nana as trains were light traffic.
Time for lunch.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1408964]OK, thanks, I will got ry to find her tonight.
Just got back from a new adventure. I have read about the Skytrain action (haha) so thought I would give it a go. I caught it from Nana to Bearing. Not much potential at first. I was all the way to OH Nut and many ins and outs. I was looking for a tall girl with a shear dress. I wore my thin shorts with no underwear.
At Oh Nut, she walks on. Perfect. I am 6-3 and she was 5-9. Maybe LB. Anyway, alot of people got on and I maneuvered myself to her backside. Close quarters. The Skytrain kind of moves and shakes around as it goes, so no problem moving and rubbing my cock against her ass. Nothing after the next stop. Then with a little more maneuvering, I started to get hard. I could feel my cock between her ass crack. She looked back over her shoulder a few times, but never tried to move away. This went on for the next several stops until she got off the stop before Bearing. Fun time. If I was 18 again, I probably would have let go.[/QUOTE]Is this for real?
[QUOTE=Skogis;1408562]While you're at it can you please hit up Elena from Subway Soi 7. 1? Short blond haired Russian chick sitting outside. We are in lack of any FR's of her. Soon I am thinking of doing her myself just to ease my curiosity but I feel you are in a much better aiming possition (beeing in BKK and all) to repair this gaping hole in girlsreporting inside here.[/QUOTE]To read about Elena you need to check out the Foreign Sex Workers thread. There are 2 field reports about her, though not in much detail. One was posted Feb 24, and the other is from March 21.
Feb 24:
"Elena.
If I remember correctly, her apartment was on soi 19 (I think) close to honey hotel, not bad little place.
Overall the service was good, she made me feel safe and right at home and it was another check mark on my TDL (non asian in Thailand)."
March 21:
"I did the short hair blonde two times, in both my two trips to Bangkok. In my first trip I asked her name and she said "Lana". After my first trip I read from ISG that this short hair blonde is Elena. Then during the second trip, I just checked in my hotel, and went to seven eleven to buy a sim card, There I met Lana and asked her, are you elena? She said "no". Then I asked you Sit in subway soi7/1. She said no. Then I said her I'm sorry I misunderstood you as other person, and she left. Then the next day night I saw her sitting in subway and it was the same women there, then I approached her and asked her that I met you today early morning, you said your not elena, to which she replied" I am Lana, not elena", then I asked her do you remember me, we met a month and a half before, she said " there are so many customers, and I don't rememebr U". I think she is lying. Then she took me to the short time room and finished with the deed. She declined to come to my hotel."
[quote=luvpuss; 1408921]any of you have a monger bucket list? i do and have crossed off a few things. different races, etc. i am serious and not trying to make fun. i fucked a midget in vegas for $300. she obviously did not have to get on knees for bbbj.
i also fucked a parapeligic in socal off one of the websites. not easy to fuck a girl in a wheel chair.
last night i met a sw here who is deaf. .[/quote]on my bucketlist i keep track of girls i have done and which country they come from. it starts to build up a pretty decent international crowd. 2 times i have done legless (and wheelchaired) girls. 1 time in sweden and lately during last years paraolympics in london (actually a female athleete in the athleete village). the only thing you miss out is the legs wrapped around you in mish and the obvious trouble of standing on all fours like in doggy. there are ofcourse minor logistic issue if you plan to hang out with them. i also did the fiji bushwoman. bigger "female" than me and angry. she took me into the woods close to nadi. that is the worse bush i ever saw (felt at first) covering up a pussy, wow. it was pitch dark, she was pitch black and pussy hair dark. took me a while to find that opening. a lot of bugbites after i managed to do her. when morning broke i saw that mighty bush untouched by humans hands.
i have done deaf and that was a delightful quite moment. this was in shanghai. i am not sure if she was chineese or mongolian i did not bother to ask.
[quote=luvpuss;1408964]i have read about the skytrain action (haha) so thought i would give it a go. i caught it from nana to bearing. i wore my thin shorts with no underwear. at oh nut, she walks on. perfect. i am 6-3 and she was 5-9. maybe lb. the skytrain kind of moves and shakes around as it goes, so no problem moving and rubbing my cock against her ass. nothing after the next stop. then with a little more maneuvering, i started to get hard. i could feel my cock between her ass crack. she looked back over her shoulder a few times, but never tried to move away. this went on for the next several stops until she got off the stop before bearing. fun time. if i was 18 again, i probably would have let go. no action on the way back to nana as trains were light traffic.time for lunch.[/quote]haha you are insane. nice going.
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Took a good nap today, then headed to Patpong. You can take Skytrain from Nana, just one switch at Siam.
I usually hit this place once each trip. BBBJ bar and FS.
There were 7 girls out front. 2 cute which was a surprise. The quality here is usually poor.
I picked the cutest one. Name Peam? Nice smiley Isaan girl age 25 with very smooth skin. We started out in the bar area. This is a public area with 2 booths and some chairs. I got a Coke.
The manager lady was fixing her hair. Girls walking past. All this time my girl is sucking my cock and making slurping noises.
But I wanted FS also, so we went into the bathroom. This is seedy but no matter. Very small room, sticky cum on the floor, a toilet, sink, bathing area for the girls, a stool, and it stinks.
She continued BBBJ, then got condom for FS. That's fine. She turned and we fucked stand up doggie, with a pull out wad shot on her back.
This place will do the job, but that is about it. 1000 B for BBBJ and FS. This is the less expensive FS spot of the BJ bars from what I know.
I have to share this with you guys. Instead for going for freelances like usually (currently got one, really nice, with 3000LT damage, which keeps returning. For the money I am afraid. But a young and fresh lady, appearing very innocent and insecure. And from Isan of course. I went today to the massage parlor ANNIE's, where so many people talk about.
Here is my report, and I really believe it should also be seen by BGK report people not "Annie's fanatics" only so that's why I post here:
What a sad and "cheap looking" place. Really. I was astonished about the bad quality all over.
Annie's appears like a frustrated slave driver and so do the girls, let's better say middle-aged women. As posted earlier, the pictures on the homepage and walls appear really outdated to a good part and when I was there (5pm, supposedly a good time) there were plenty of girls (around 10-15) but none really nice, and most definitely over 25.
The thing which shocked me most was that the atmosphere in the house as well as in the fish bowl appeared really sad. The girls frustrated and worn out.
Okay whatever, I took the best looking one (later were told she is 27,"Lala" or so; #6) as I wanted to make the experience and as so many here write so positively about Annies.
The girls appeared nice, the first 5min. Then I already waited 10min alone in room until she came back. She washed me on a special mattress, rubbing her body on me. Was nice, but after she but her away (to not get wet) and after undressing I was not much attracted anymore. Hanging breasts, and face which now also could be a lady boy. Whatever. What already turned me off here was the obvious standard routine of a completely bored and really worn out woman. I never saw such a sad "working lady", and I saw a lot, believe me. Yet, she did not appear to be an exception at that place.
Well after having some wash session on the mattress I was put to the bathing tube. Was okay, and she made a nice hand job. The blow jobs actually were all pretty bad, I could feel her teeth. And she was going to stress my little Boy too much from time to time. The touch simply was not gentle, but very mechanic.
Well I came with her hand job. Was good, but nothing special as she did not touch me except on my dick.
Well then we went on the bed to continue with another massage (remember that they promise 2hrs for 2500- all included). We both made a 10min break small talking. The girl was nice, but she was desparate so my feeling. She asked for a "water". For THB 120. I was lauging and said no. I myself was frustrated by then and was again disappointed by the cheap policies of that place. 120- I do not even pay for a beer in most gogo places. (Pattaya is 65-)
I wondered what was coming next. It was an okay normal massage on the back and then on the front. With again lots of monotonolus blow jobs (which again hurted more than they were nice, because she was going too far with her hands from time to time). She then desperately tried that I quickly come, shake my little Friend like crazy. I alsmost came a few times but then always something hurt. Again, everything appeared very mechanical (just as a side note, I had a normal massage in Pattaya and was asked at some point for "full service"? I said yes, got a super-hand job with oil from a middle-aged average looking woman. Did not matter. At least she had a very good touch and gave a great feeling; the damage there was THB 700-). Well I did not come a second time although she tried badly. I said at some point I have enough because I was worried that she really hurts me at some point. With permanent damage which would be a desaster for the remaining BGK days. .
I left after 90min, greatly disappointed and slightly disgusted by the place. The girls, and the business.
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1409079]I have to share this with you guys. Instead for going for freelances like usually (currently got one, really nice, with 3000LT damage, which keeps returning. For the money I am afraid. But a young and fresh lady, appearing very innocent and insecure. And from Isan of course. I went today to the massage parlor ANNIE's, where so many people talk about.
I left after 90min, greatly disappointed and slightly disgusted by the place. The girls, and the business.[/QUOTE]The fact the place needs a refurbishing is out of question.
I think any fishbowl, looked in some way, will appear as you described. Bit of a meat market. But I don't think there is one not being so.
The performance of the ladies is often a matter of chemistry and their approach to the job, to the guy, to the day. And the same thing the other way around. Maybe the 10' waiting out you in a bad state of mind (it would do to me).
What never ceases to amaze me, but it is not a peculiarity of Annie's but a lot of places, bars, etc, is when you walk in front of Annie's and you see something that loooks like the office canteen, with girls eating, some in full make up, some with a reminiscence of working clothing (or stockings). In some bars, if the business is calm and not many customers around, the girls lay on the couches and have a nap.
That doesn't help to the standard of a "professional" place. Again, it is quite common so I am not specifically addressing to Annie's, it is Thai for sure, but it is a turn off.
I like Annie's, had mixed results, friends of mine, newbies really love it, but it doesn't trigger me anymore. Maybe as, anyhow, it is pretty much a routine (again, in this case it is not Annie's itself, it is the concept).
I much prefer the unexpected (up to some level) and not work as part of a (timed) script.
But hey, it is P4P not a romance, LOL
[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1408831]Whole talk of booming economy and all that is hogwash. Reality is right in front of you. Too many girls everywhere all the time.
So monger on. Negotiate well, tip well, have lots of fun. That is what is BKK. Easy, cheap, hassle free.[/QUOTE]Really? Not booming? Try to hire employees in Bangkok. See what the current salaries are compared to 5 years ago. Unemployment is less than 1. There are 80 high rises over 30 stories under construction in BKK. Yes, the economy is booming, in many different sectors. There are far fewer girls on the game than there were 13 years ago when I moved here, due mainly to the fact that they can make enough at legit jobs. Before that was not the case.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1409095]The fact the place needs a refurbishing is out of question.[/QUOTE]Its a dump!
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1409111]Remember this day guys, it freaking monumental, not only did m. Thatcher (good lady I hear-believe in freedom. Not * ass socialsism) die.
But it is the day the BRITISH (farangs) took over Rainbow 4. I told you guys it was a trend. Farangs were slowly but surely increasing in numbers. I f somehow it is not stopped we will have another Angelwitch on our hands. Who needs that. LOL.
I swear for a full hour the farangs outnumbered the asians!
Now if the light skin hot girls move to Rainbow 2- it wouldn't be so bad. But I wonder would they.
This close contact on BTS is not rare. I was on from Nana to siam today. 3 stations apart- A hot working farang lady stopped right where my genitalia was hanging- she must have felt it becomming erect but she did not attempt to move-neither did I. LOL. OMG she felt good. To top it off she was very pretty and had the kind of breasts I crave for.
A while back I went in to Annies for a look. I saw what you guys saw- the girls were doing everything but sitting professionally. And they were kinda ugly too. LOL. You don't see that kind of behavoir in the Ratchada massage parlours.[/QUOTE]Harold your posts are as funny as they are informative but I think you have a severe case of Rainbowitis! I have been to all the Rainbows in Nana and would concede they do have some of the best looking girls in Nana, whether the attitude and level of service hits the same heights I would question. On a serious note do you actually do your hunting anywhere else except the Rainbows?
I personally do like the go-go's but there is a wide spectrum of P4P out there. I am not making a judgement on your likes and desires just asking a serious question which is "where else do you monger"?
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1409116]Really? Not booming? Try to hire employees in Bangkok. See what the current salaries are compared to 5 years ago. Unemployment is less than 1. There are 80 high rises over 30 stories under construction in BKK. Yes, the economy is booming, in many different sectors. There are far fewer girls on the game than there were 13 years ago when I moved here, due mainly to the fact that they can make enough at legit jobs. Before that was not the case.[/QUOTE]Some guys are good at denying reality.
I noticed a couple of years ago that the Thais have a lot more disposable income than in recent memory. Just take a stroll through any mall and you'll find at least one high-end bakery and / or a cupcake shop. Cupcakes are very trendy, and probably the ultimate impulse purchase. Most shops seem to be priced the same as their LA equivalent! Don't tell me things aren't booming.
I'm currently staying in a condo in the Sathorn area. It seems the whole world around here is under construction. And every day I see the hordes of Thai office workers going to and from lunch, or whatever. Don't tell me things aren't booming.
I used to like to visit Nana in the daytime. I realize that the A team doesn't show up until the evening, but there were always some cuties, with good personalities, in the mix. I swore last year was my last visit to that sewer. But, yesterday I had some free time so I got a manicure at my fave little shop down the street and then looked into Nana to check out the remodeling. OMG. All the outdoor joints were chock full of the ugliest, nastiest girls I'd seen in a long time. Most were very dark, and obviously hailing from the outermost regions of Isaan. The ones not occupied with customers were just scowling down at the passers-by. Not a smile among them. The only bubbly ones were the ladyboys hanging around outside Obsessions. A particularly tall and homely one bounced up, asked if I wanted a drink, pointed out that this was a ladyboy bar, and then confided that he had a large cock and wanted to fuck me with it. I stopped at Lucky Lukes and had a quick beer with the "best of the worst." Very petite girl with a nice personality. She was the only one who smiled and said hello. So, she got the biscuit. Sat and watched all the girls showing up for work. This was around 5:00. 5:30. Except I only saw 2 or 3 girls show up. I did see hordes of ladyboys parade past. OMG. One could be excused for thinking there were no longer any women working in Nana. Don't tell me things aren't booming.
It may come as a surprise to a lot of guys, but most girls really don't want to sell their bodies to fat, smelly, sweaty farang. Usually it comes from some economic necessity. Thais, as a whole, tend to live more frugally than Westerners, so it doesn't take tons of money to survive. With wages far higher now than a few years back, supporting oneself with legitimate work is now much more of an option than 10 years ago. Hence, far fewer girls working, and many of those are near the bottom of the quality barrel. Don't tell me things aren't booming.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1409283]Some guys are good at denying reality.
I noticed a couple of years ago that the Thais have a lot more disposable income than in recent memory. Just take a stroll through any mall and you'll find at least one high-end bakery and / or a cupcake shop. Cupcakes are very trendy, and probably the ultimate impulse purchase. Most shops seem to be priced the same as their LA equivalent! Don't tell me things aren't booming.
I'm currently staying in a condo in the Sathorn area. It seems the whole world around here is under construction. And every day I see the hordes of Thai office workers going to and from lunch, or whatever. Don't tell me things aren't booming.
I used to like to visit Nana in the daytime. I realize that the A team doesn't show up until the evening, but there were always some cuties, with good personalities, in the mix. I swore last year was my last visit to that sewer. But, yesterday I had some free time so I got a manicure at my fave little shop down the street and then looked into Nana to check out the remodeling. OMG. All the outdoor joints were chock full of the ugliest, nastiest girls I'd seen in a long time. Most were very dark, and obviously hailing from the outermost regions of Isaan. The ones not occupied with customers were just scowling down at the passers-by. Not a smile among them. The only bubbly ones were the ladyboys hanging around outside Obsessions. A particularly tall and homely one bounced up, asked if I wanted a drink, pointed out that this was a ladyboy bar, and then confided that he had a large cock and wanted to fuck me with it. I stopped at Lucky Lukes and had a quick beer with the "best of the worst." Very petite girl with a nice personality. She was the only one who smiled and said hello. So, she got the biscuit. Sat and watched all the girls showing up for work. This was around 5:00. 5:30. Except I only saw 2 or 3 girls show up. I did see hordes of ladyboys parade past. OMG. One could be excused for thinking there were no longer any women working in Nana. Don't tell me things aren't booming.
It may come as a surprise to a lot of guys, but most girls really don't want to sell their bodies to fat, smelly, sweaty farang. Usually it comes from some economic necessity. Thais, as a whole, tend to live more frugally than Westerners, so it doesn't take tons of money to survive. With wages far higher now than a few years back, supporting oneself with legitimate work is now much more of an option than 10 years ago. Hence, far fewer girls working, and many of those are near the bottom of the quality barrel. Don't tell me things aren't booming.[/QUOTE]You are spot on. Many things in Bangkok are more expensive than they are in the US. Some of the pubs want almost 400 baht or 13 USD for a burger and fries! Almost 6 USD for a watery drink or a local beer. One can get a pint of great craft beer at most bars in the US for 5 USD. And your assessment of the talent level is right on the money. There are far fewer pretty girls on the game. Ask any bar owner how hard it is to get talent. Yes, most women do not want to be prostitutes. It is quite easy to support oneself with a legit job. That was not the case 10 years ago. The girls on the game now are a bit different from those a decade ago. Rarely do I encounter a gal who has a day job and it out to supplement their income. Now, it is mainly hardened pros, who are either looking for the easy way out or just not that sharp. Hey, not to cast stones here, but it is the truth.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1409292]There are far fewer pretty girls on the game. Ask any bar owner how hard it is to get talent. Yes, most women do not want to be prostitutes. It is quite easy to support oneself with a legit job. That was not the case 10 years ago.[/QUOTE]And also don't forget there are more and more rich Thai men as compared to 10 years ago. More and more cuties can easily find their sugar papas one after one. So a huge portion of these cuter ones dive into the gik and mia noi categories. So how many these cuter leftovers still in the market? I noticed the trend many years ago, and have left for fresher grounds.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1409292]You are spot on. Many things in Bangkok are more expensive than they are in the US. Some of the pubs want almost 400 baht or 13 USD for a burger and fries! Almost 6 USD for a watery drink or a local beer. One can get a pint of great craft beer at most bars in the US for 5 USD. And your assessment of the talent level is right on the money. There are far fewer pretty girls on the game. Ask any bar owner how hard it is to get talent. Yes, most women do not want to be prostitutes. It is quite easy to support oneself with a legit job. That was not the case 10 years ago. The girls on the game now are a bit different from those a decade ago. Rarely do I encounter a gal who has a day job and it out to supplement their income. Now, it is mainly hardened pros, who are either looking for the easy way out or just not that sharp. Hey, not to cast stones here, but it is the truth.[/QUOTE]I agree that a lot things, namely clothes, consumer goods in general, cars, and even a price of a beer in a pub is more than the US, but there's a relatively small number of pubs in Bangkok and their main customers are expats (not english teachers) and thais who think a pub is fashionable. A pub in the US, europe or australia is a place you hang around drunks and degenerates.
I don't think it's changed a whole lot in the last 5 years in terms of girls. I think the proportion of really hot gogo dancers is about the same. It's always been a really small percentage that are really hot. If you're not getting barfined a lot, maybe you have more incentive to work in a factory now. The type of girl that can walk in the bar and has a drink bought within 5 minutes is still around and not going anywhere. Where's a hot, uneducated isan going to work? Getting $2 an hour in a factory instead of $1.30 isn't much of an incentive.
[QUOTE=RCA Knight;1409338].leftovers still in the market? I noticed the trend many years ago, and have left for fresher grounds.[/QUOTE]Do you care to name these fresher grounds?
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1408841]Naah, man. You've got it all wrong. Dude's got mad skills.
Only his second time in country, doesn't speak the language, doesn't know som tam from nam som, and already all the "allegedly" civilian chicks are falling all over themselves to do freebies.
In a culture where a smile means anything from friendship, to an apology, to embarrassment, to I want to slit your throat, the guy's got all that figured out as well. If the vendor smiles back at you, next thing you're screwing her brains out. I know we all believe him, right? I know I'm convinced.[/QUOTE]"I stopped at Lucky Lukes and had a quick beer with the "best of the worst." Very petite girl with a nice personality. She was the only one who smiled and said hello. So, she got the biscuit.". Phordphan.
Looks like the newbie giving good advice to the community and the veteran jealous in envy. Not sure why it's so hard to fathom my reports. Girls having anal sex all over the world. Welcome to Earth.
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi;1409079]I left after 90min, greatly disappointed and slightly disgusted by the place. The girls, and the business.[/QUOTE]Wow this post really resonates with me. It almost exactly mirrors my experience of Annie's. Indifferent providers and shortening session times are the classic tells of a tourist trap. There are SO MANY better choices in BKK.
SunLover
[QUOTE=Marky1; 1409339]I agree that a lot things, namely clothes, consumer goods in general, cars, and even a price of a beer in a pub is more than the US, but there's a relatively small number of pubs in Bangkok and their main customers are expats (not english teachers) and thais who think a pub is fashionable. A pub in the US, europe or australia is a place you hang around drunks and degenerates.
I don't think it's changed a whole lot in the last 5 years in terms of girls. I think the proportion of really hot gogo dancers is about the same. It's always been a really small percentage that are really hot. If you're not getting barfined a lot, maybe you have more incentive to work in a factory now. The type of girl that can walk in the bar and has a drink bought within 5 minutes is still around and not going anywhere. Where's a hot, uneducated isan going to work? Getting $2 an hour in a factory instead of $1. 30 isn't much of an incentive.[/QUOTE]Actually the real measuring stick is to go to places Thai folks go, and let me tell ya, the prices all over the city are up. Bars where mongers don't frequent are quite a bit more expensive. Food costs up as well. Your local Pojana has even seen price increases.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1409307]How many times do I have to tell you prostituting onesself is not easy work. LOL.
Again you are making ridiculous comparisions. You don't use PUBS as a. Basis for comparing anything. I bet Pubs in USA charge a lot for water too.
Hordes of office girls going to lunch. They going to eat their 30 baht som tam. LOL. They not heading to the Sheraton all you can eat buffet for 899 baht.[/QUOTE]Really? Pubs and bars are full all over the city. Ever get down to Thong Lor, Ekkamai? Ever get out to Smith or Quince? Full of Thais. This is not a backwater anymore Harold. It is a thriving economy. See the lines at Starbucks? Don't kid yourself. Thais are making far more money than they did five years ago. Far more. Have you tried to hire skilled employees lately?
The comparison with pubs is between then and now. And no, in the US most of the time water is free.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1409307]How many times do I have to tell you prostituting onesself is not easy work. LOL.
Again you are making ridiculous comparisions. You don't use PUBS as a. Basis for comparing anything. I bet Pubs in USA charge a lot for water too.
Hordes of office girls going to lunch. They going to eat their 30 baht som tam. LOL. They not heading to the Sheraton all you can eat buffet for 899 baht.[/QUOTE]FYI, the water is free in virtually every pub and restaurant in the USA. And I can think of several, off the top of my head, that serve a nice selection of beers, my favorite being anything from the Stone Brewing Co. Mmmmm, Stone IPA <drool> Cost of a pint will run between $5 and $6. Mr. Goat is spot on.
The point about the hordes of office ladies is that hordes of pretty girls can now find that it's possible to make ends meet on an office worker's salary. They don't have to hang out in Farang Gulch shouting "Hallo, hansum maannn" to passersby.
Whether anybody wants to admit it, or not, the number of working girls is down substantially. Bars are having a hard time retaining staff and the pretty ones can practically write their own ticket. This most definitely was not the case 10 years ago. It may be anecdotal, but the girls I saw plying their trade yesterday in and around Nana prove the point. 10 years back, these same girls wuld have been mopping the floors or serving drinks. They would have been hard pressed to get any reasonably sober customers!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1409395]Really? Pubs and bars are full all over the city. Ever get down to Thong Lor, Ekkamai? Ever get out to Smith or Quince? Full of Thais. This is not a backwater anymore Harold. It is a thriving economy. See the lines at Starbucks? Don't kid yourself. Thais are making far more money than they did five years ago. Far more. Have you tried to hire skilled employees lately?
The comparison with pubs is between then and now. And no, in the US most of the time water is free.[/QUOTE]No doubt! In the last couple of years wine has become very, very popular with the locals. And the fucking wine here is outrageously priced. Plonk that goes for under $10 a bottle at home goes for $30. And locals are drinking it up.
I was in Udon and Nong Khai over the weekend, visit the GF's relatives, doing the pre-songkran merit making and pouring water on the dear departed's ashes (which is so weird I will never get used to it). We drove over to a huge shopping center that is fairly new. UD World, or some such. Anyway, you couldn't get a parking spot. The joint was packed. 99. 9% Thais shopping, wining and dining. Quite a few fairly nice places to eat, definitely not the food court at MBK.
Had dinner at a fairly nice joint. Wine Society. A bottle of rather low-end (but drinkable) Malbec was just under 800 baht. So, just under $30 for a $15 bottle of wine. Same bottle in BKK would probably run closer to 1, 000 baht. As the evening wore on and the place filled up, I noticed that it was all Thai clientele. They seemed to have no problem throwing down 200 baht per glass for the house swill.
Salaries are up all over the place, even in a relative backwater like UT. A blind man could see it.
I am going to visit BKK again in the middle of may. I think its three years since I went mongering last time. I have been reading a lot about Star of light and I will visit this place for sure. Look at the picture from google street view, am I right if I presume that the bar stools belongs to
Cleo bar, which I have read is a good place to take a look at the ladies sitting outside? And the area where the ladies sit, is it under the stairs? And the bar, is it in the building next to the street?
There is a clip on youtube showing a little bit from SOL, you find it here:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa3sfPO1QmU[/url]
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1409396]FYI, the water is free in virtually every pub and restaurant in the USA. And I can think of several, off the top of my head, that serve a nice selection of beers, my favorite being anything from the Stone Brewing Co. Mmmmm, Stone IPA <drool Cost of a pint will run between $5 and $6. Mr. Goat is spot on.
The point about the hordes of office ladies is that hordes of pretty girls can now find that it's possible to make ends meet on an office worker's salary. They don't have to hang out in Farang Gulch shouting "Hallo, hansum maannn" to passersby.
Whether anybody wants to admit it, or not, the number of working girls is down substantially. Bars are having a hard time retaining staff and the pretty ones can practically write their own ticket. This most definitely was not the case 10 years ago. It may be anecdotal, but the girls I saw plying their trade yesterday in and around Nana prove the point. 10 years back, these same girls wuld have been mopping the floors or serving drinks. They would have been hard pressed to get any reasonably sober customers![/QUOTE]Yep. All right on the money. I am a Dogfish Head man myself, but love that Stone as well. Want a bottle of good IPA here, Rogue Yellow Snow will set you back about 300 baht, plus plus in most places.
Yea, what I see out there today would be mopping the floors ten years ago. Back in the day you saw really old dudes with young stunners. Not any more. Now you see the older dudes with gals in their 40s and spending a lot to keep those old dragons up as well. The younger gals are going with the younger dudes, who are hansum and willing to spend.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1409402]No doubt! In the last couple of years wine has become very, very popular with the locals. And the fucking wine here is outrageously priced. Plonk that goes for under $10 a bottle at home goes for $30. And locals are drinking it up.
I was in Udon and Nong Khai over the weekend, visit the GF's relatives, doing the pre-songkran merit making and pouring water on the dear departed's ashes (which is so weird I will never get used to it). We drove over to a huge shopping center that is fairly new. UD World, or some such. Anyway, you couldn't get a parking spot. The joint was packed. 99. 9% Thais shopping, wining and dining. Quite a few fairly nice places to eat, definitely not the food court at MBK.
Had dinner at a fairly nice joint. Wine Society. A bottle of rather low-end (but drinkable) Malbec was just under 800 baht. So, just under $30 for a $15 bottle of wine. Same bottle in BKK would probably run closer to 1, 000 baht. As the evening wore on and the place filled up, I noticed that it was all Thai clientele. They seemed to have no problem throwing down 200 baht per glass for the house swill.
Salaries are up all over the place, even in a relative backwater like UT. A blind man could see it.[/QUOTE]Been there. Was amazed at how a wine bar is flourishing up in Udon. Friends who live there say it packs out most nights. So, really guys, wake up and really take a look at what is going on in this country. Get out of the Farang Ghetto a bit!
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1409402]No doubt! In the last couple of years wine has become very, very popular with the locals. And the fucking wine here is outrageously priced. Plonk that goes for under $10 a bottle at home goes for $30. And locals are drinking it up.[/QUOTE]Interesting point about the price of wine here. People have explained that it is due to import tax. What I find confusing is that Whisky, for example, does not bear the same price increase but is also imported. For example a bottle of single malt Glenmorangie will cost around Ł25-30 in the U. K and can be bought for 1, 700 baht or Ł35 in food land. You have to expect an increase for sure. But a Ł5-7 bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon in the U. K can cost between 800-1000 baht and that is not even form a restaurant, which is more than double the price? Is the import tax on wine way higher than it is on Whisky.
To add to the confusion import tariff's are normally used to protect domestic production. I know Thai Whisky exists but I have never come across Thai wine. Could this possibly be Thai logic raising it's distorted head yet again?
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1409342]Do you care to name these fresher grounds?[/QUOTE]Hahaha, I heard there are 3 million readers on this forum, if I reveal my fresh grounds, they will be overrun like Chang Ping by tens of thousands of "don't know how much to pay" "looking for new grounds" newbies.
Well, I have found some hard to get to places that are still very pure and pristine. I hope they stay that way for a little while. But I will give a few hints for free here, (1) Northern Laos (2) China-Vietnam border region on China side, ect, it takes special efforts to get to these places, and you definitely need a wing man for the first trip. But for me it is worth the investments so far.
Talking about the lesser and lesser cuties available on the meat market in Thailand, for me, it is quite obvious. 10 years ago, in any bigger massage parlour or gogo bar in BKK, I would have problem picking one, too many cuties, but now I have problem picking one, cannot find a cutie.
Also the prices never stop rising. 10 years ago, average MP sideline cost about 1200-1800, and cuter gogo girls 10 years ago very happy to take 1000 or even less for ST. And the girls' attitude was generally very good.
I was in BKK for a night the other day, first went to Soi Cowboy, tried to bar fine a girl in Shark that I would not take out 10 years ago, quoted me 2500 ST, and then complained my hotel too far, she wanted to go ST hotel, at first I was going to bargain down to 2000, but 2500 plus insisted on ST hotel was too much for me, I could easily imagine her lazy yawn on the bed. Left and went to Thermae, and did not get any better. I tried to pick up a semi-cutie, and she was actually trying to figure out who to go with, some guy before me tried on her, quoted me 2500, but came down to 2000, but again she wanted to go ST upstairs and hurry down to get her second, maybe third round, I was a little disgusted. All these craps made me reminiscent of the old days in Thailand over a decade ago, and make me long for my green pastures across the horizon.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1409283]I noticed a couple of years ago that the Thais have a lot more disposable income than in recent memory. Don't tell me things aren't booming.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Mr. Phan. Very informative.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1409420]I am going to visit BKK again in the middle of may. I think its three years since I went mongering last time. I have been reading a lot about Star of light and I will visit this place for sure. Look at the picture from google street view, am I right if I presume that the bar stools belongs to .[/QUOTE]Yep, you got it. The video shows entering from the other side of the Soi but you got the right location.
[QUOTE=Marky1;1409339]A pub in the US, europe or australia is a place you hang around drunks and degenerates.[/QUOTE]Occasionally there is a post with such a ridiculously stupid statement that the poster has to be called to account.
Pubs around the world are not the places for degenerates and drunks (those are drinking meths under railway arches and in public parks)
Pubs in many cities, towns and villages are important social centres and where you may even pick up a FL.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1409501]Yep, you got it. The video shows entering from the other side of the Soi but you got the right location.[/QUOTE]Thank you Traveler, then I know exactly how to get there.
[QUOTE=RCA Knight;1409481](snip) but again she wanted to go ST upstairs and hurry down to get her second, maybe third round[/QUOTE]That is why I prefer to engage the girls on LT basis only. It avoids the time-pressure and "hurry up" attitude. Of course it is more expensive, but generally I get three pops out of one LT, so in the end I think it is worth it.
Ok guys, here is my opinion on this girl and after that each to their own. Was in Bangkok 1 month ago and staying close to soi 7. One evening she stopped me early enough maybe 8pm. Quoted what was on offer and the price. It was basically all covered BJ & sex. Could stay the night at her place if it was LT. Price 3000 baht. I didn't take up her offer but two days later I did. Price 3500 baht. Funny thing I just did not have a good feeling about it and I was right. Everything was an issue. Cock too big, she didn't like this, not comfortable with that. All bullshit. Finished me with an oily handjob. Left soon after although she did ask did I want to stay the night but I'm sure that would have cost more at some stage. For me a complete waste of money but not annoyed as I was kind of expecting thats what what it would be. Only satisfaction was telling her it would have cost ne a hell of a lot more in Moscow, not that she cared.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1409476]Interesting point about the price of wine here. People have explained that it is due to import tax. What I find confusing is that Whisky, for example, does not bear the same price increase but is also imported. For example a bottle of single malt Glenmorangie will cost around Ł25-30 in the U. K and can be bought for 1, 700 baht or Ł35 in food land. You have to expect an increase for sure. But a Ł5-7 bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon in the U. K can cost between 800-1000 baht and that is not even form a restaurant, which is more than double the price? Is the import tax on wine way higher than it is on Whisky.[/QUOTE]I have researched the matter a little. Taxes are identical be it pisslight wine or the strongest vodka. For import, the excixe calculation in itself is ridiculous (compounding of duty over duty) , amounts to about 300 percent. For domestic, it is also quite high, can't remember exactly, but that explains why beer is also relatively expensive. Since alchol consumption grows constantly, the governement uses the excuse of protecting public health whileraking up a shitload of money.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1409476]Interesting point about the price of wine here. People have explained that it is due to import tax. What I find confusing is that Whisky, for example, does not bear the same price increase but is also imported. For example a bottle of single malt Glenmorangie will cost around Ł25-30 in the U. K and can be bought for 1, 700 baht or Ł35 in food land. You have to expect an increase for sure. But a Ł5-7 bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon in the U. K can cost between 800-1000 baht and that is not even form a restaurant, which is more than double the price? Is the import tax on wine way higher than it is on Whisky.
To add to the confusion import tariff's are normally used to protect domestic production. I know Thai Whisky exists but I have never come across Thai wine. Could this possibly be Thai logic raising it's distorted head yet again?
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]The tax on wine is an excise tax, Thai wines pay it as well. There is also an import duty on wine, but the main culprit for high prices is the excise tax. Imported beer has a very high duty. Beer is interesting here. Two of the richest men in Thailand are bev guys. Have had some friends look into staring a craft brewery here. Almost impossible with the tax structure. The least amount you can pay tax on is 1 million liters. At that point you can only sell what you brew on premise. You cannot bottle. Think Tawan Daeng or The Londoner. The tax then jumps to 10 million liters at which point you can bottle and sell. Most craft breweries in the US produce less than 5 million but more than 1 million per year. So they have essentially cut this out of the market.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1409486]First thing I noticed when I arrived 10 years a go was the old guys with the ugliest girls one could imagine. Same same today. LOL.[/QUOTE]That was not my experience Harold. In fact, when I arrived here over a decade ago there were very few dudes under 40 in most of the bars.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1409483]The type of girls mopping the floors 10 years ago are still mopping floors today. LOL.
There aint a whole of interest in these type of girsl at over 700 baht. LOL. You guys know that agogos were never full of hot chicks. Some hot, many ok, the rest floor moppers.
Bangkok rocks and it will for a long long time. It don't matter a whole lot if they building 80 new hi rises. LOL.
Its really hard to believe the issan education system in 10 years are suddenly providing capable issan girls for big industry. Them isan girls know its pussy time if they want to make it- and unfortunately very few actually make it- and of those that do, at what cost?[/QUOTE]Actually there is a huge demand for both skilled and unskilled workers in BKK and the rest of Thailand. Construction wages are climbing as Burmese are heading back to work in their own country which will boom soon enough. This is not the Thailand of 10 years ago, it is not even the Thailand of two years ago. The game has changed and so has the P4P scene. And it will continue to change.
[quote=dr bj; 1409476]to add to the confusion import tariff's are normally used to protect domestic production. i know thai whisky exists but i have never come across thai wine. could this possibly be thai logic raising it's distorted head yet again?
regards,
bj[/quote]there is a small thai wine industry.
believe it or not, there is a rather large vineyard just outside of pattaya. go figure. i had no idea decent grapes would grow here. we visited last year. unfortunately, there were no free tastings, as there are in napa, or paso robles. maybe that's changed now? in any case, i wasn't going to lay down $30 for a bottle of thai cabernet sauvignon. so, the excise certainly appears to apply to domestic production, too.
a teacher i used to know in the petchabun area says that there are wineries in that general area, too.
How much of the people are actually benefiting from it? Of course you're going to see many well to do Thais in fine establishments, but that's to be expected in a city of 12 million. I see too many people who should be enjoying their retirement, but instead, are pushing food carts in the sweltering heat, tell them the economy is booming. 1% unemployment sounds great, but like Mark Twain said, Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics. Many of those jobs are where people are making a pittance and includes too many security guards, car parkers, and ipad accessory sellers.
The other day, I was at Chesters and there were 20 employees and maybe 10 diners LOL, most just standing around twiddling their thumbs. I order the Salmon and rice set, and in a few minutes the food arrives by a "server" but they don't give me any silverware haha. 20 employees and they can't even clean the silverware in time! Got to love Thailand!
[QUOTE=Western787; 1408604]My worst experience was a tall blonde, aggressive girl. 2,3 minutes into fucking she was telling me to finish and closing her legs. Not liking her sex I offered her 1000 of the 2000 bar fine even though we just started fucking. Then she just slaps me hard without saying anything. Acting like it was too long and to pay her now.
My other bad experience, I was stupid. I picked up a freelancer in Pattaya with giant tits for 1000 baht to stay for awhile. Her middle was a train wreck so I offered her 500 to leave after 10 mins. She didn't want to and got very mad and slammed the door when I stuck to my guns.
Any advice on the best way to play this?[/QUOTE]Bad experiences are sometimes unavoidable. In both cases, you made a mistake of being too soft at the outset, and then hardening up just as the girl was convinced she can boss you around.
If I sense a genuinely bad attitude early enough, I *immediately* go into damage control mode, with the singular focus of getting them out of the room. Your first step should generally be to halt the session decisively, offering a very small token payment (100 to 200 baht). Offering 1000 baht (full ST fare for a Bangkok FL) or 500 baht (full ST fare for Pattaya) for their bad behavior which didn't even amount to ST, only encourages them to ask for more. If she's physically attacking you or breaking things, it shows that she has zero fear out of your physical reaction. While you should never hit a girl, you're 2 times bigger, and it shouldn't be too hard to give out the vibe convincing them that if they become physical it won't end pretty for them.
In the end, if she's obstinate, you can offer some more severance money (perhaps up to 500/1000), but only when it's clear that she's dressed and standing at the door when you pay her (and not if she was breaking things or hitting you).
I once had a freelancer from hell from Sukhumwit who had a bad attitude, and wouldn't settle for the 200 baht cancellation fee (we didn't have sex yet), and insisted on the full 1000 baht fare. We had an almost 40-minute long standoff in my room, but she remained stationary throughout (lots of various threats, though not much shouting)... and in the end I paid her. If she started getting aggressive or breaking things at any point, it was clear she would come out worse off, so she didn't try (despite all the verbal back-and-forth, mentioning police, pimps and all).
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1409722]How much of the people are actually benefiting from it? Of course you're going to see many well to do Thais in fine establishments, but that's to be expected in a city of 12 million. I see too many people who should be enjoying their retirement, but instead, are pushing food carts in the sweltering heat, tell them the economy is booming. 1% unemployment sounds great, but like Mark Twain said, Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics. Many of those jobs are where people are making a pittance and includes too many security guards, car parkers, and ipad accessory sellers.
The other day, I was at Chesters and there were 20 employees and maybe 10 diners LOL, most just standing around twiddling their thumbs. I order the Salmon and rice set, and in a few minutes the food arrives by a "server" but they don't give me any silverware haha. 20 employees and they can't even clean the silverware in time! Got to love Thailand![/QUOTE]Tony, I think lots of folks are benefiting from it and not just in BKK. Land prices are skyrocketing everywhere in Thailand. The price of farm land in Isaan has quadrupled in many places. Many "poor" farmers are finding some cash upon selling their land. All of these "menial" jobs are paying more and more and will continue to.
Yes, many places are overstaffed, but Thais are working and they are kept working for the most part during eco downturns, in contrast with the US where people are just laid off.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1409476]What I find confusing is that Whisky, for example, does not bear the same price increase but is also imported. For example a bottle of single malt Glenmorangie will cost around Ł25-30 in the U. K and can be bought for 1, 700 baht or Ł35 in food land. You have to expect an increase for sure. But a Ł5-7 bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon in the U. K can cost between 800-1000 baht and that is not even form a restaurant, which is more than double the price? Is the import tax on wine way higher than it is on Whisky. I know Thai Whisky exists but I have never come across Thai wine. Could this possibly be Thai logic raising it's distorted head yet again?[/QUOTE]I haven't done comparison pricing of single malt whiskey, but from what I've seen bourbon does have the same price increase as other liquors. A typical price for 1 Liter of Jim Beam or Jack Daniels is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1200. 1400 baht. That's about double the US price and about quadruple of what you'd pay in Phnom Penh Cambodia. (Oddly you can get American booze cheaper in Cambodia than in the USA.)
You write that you know Thai whiskey exists. Really? Mekong, for instance, sells itself as a whiskey, but is actually a rum. What Thai whiskeys are there? I'd be very surprised if I found there were any Thai bourbons or single malts. I don't think any Thai products are in competition in this market.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1409771]Yes, many places are overstaffed, but Thais are working and they are kept working for the most part during eco downturns, in contrast with the US where people are just laid off.[/QUOTE]Far better to have them working than idling through their lives on benefits. There are great advantages to restricting benefits to those in REAL need rather than those too idle to get a job.
And working in a bar, in front or behind the counter is better than transplanting rice. As long as there are bars there will be bar girls to fuck.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1409768]Bad experiences are sometimes unavoidable. In both cases, you made a mistake of being too soft at the outset, and then hardening up just as the girl was convinced she can boss you around.
If I sense a genuinely bad attitude early enough, I *immediately* go into damage control mode, with the singular focus of getting them out of the room. Your first step should generally be to halt the session decisively, offering a very small token payment (100 to 200 baht). Offering 1000 baht (full ST fare for a Bangkok FL) or 500 baht (full ST fare for Pattaya) for their bad behavior which didn't even amount to ST, only encourages them to ask for more. If she's physically attacking you or breaking things, it shows that she has zero fear out of your physical reaction. While you should never hit a girl, you're 2 times bigger, and it shouldn't be too hard to give out the vibe convincing them that if they become physical it won't end pretty for them.
In the end, if she's obstinate, you can offer some more severance money (perhaps up to 500/1000) , but only when it's clear that she's dressed and standing at the door when you pay her (and not if she was breaking things or hitting you).
I once had a freelancer from hell from Sukhumwit who had a bad attitude, and wouldn't settle for the 200 baht cancellation fee (we didn't have sex yet) , and insisted on the full 1000 baht fare. We had an almost 40-minute long standoff in my room, but she remained stationary throughout (lots of various threats, though not much shouting). And in the end I paid her. If she started getting aggressive or breaking things at any point, it was clear she would come out worse off, so she didn't try (despite all the verbal back-and-forth, mentioning police, pimps and all).[/QUOTE] (Just in case there is any confusion, and as you may already know, THOSE ARE NOT MY WORDS, as in my original post I am quoting "NeverGetsOld") While I see an entertainment value in the style of his posts, I believe any woman, working girl or not, anywhere in the world, London, New York, Bangkok, or living amongst the extreme poverty some of us may have encountered in Burma or the Phils should be treated with the utmost respect. Its a matter of basic human decency, aside from being bad Karma.
Here's my original post
Too funny man. One never knows because mongers operate at different levels, some could be chick magnet younger guys that the girls love, (I now see below he mentions he's a younger guy) or regular Brad Pitt types, or real charmers. In any case I am still laughing at his classic and entertaining post a few weeks back:
(Quoting NeverGetsOld)
"My best resource has been an ok looking nana bar girl." (leaving out the rest)
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1409771]Tony, I think lots of folks are benefiting from it and not just in BKK. Land prices are skyrocketing everywhere in Thailand. The price of farm land in Isaan has quadrupled in many places. Many "poor" farmers are finding some cash upon selling their land. All of these "menial" jobs are paying more and more and will continue to.
Yes, many places are overstaffed, but Thais are working and they are kept working for the most part during eco downturns, in contrast with the US where people are just laid off.[/QUOTE]That's interesting you mention about being laid off or fired. More than one person told me they would rather keep someone on the payroll who was worthless than having to pay his / her unemployment benefits, unlike the western world where they're not so shy about shitcanning you in a New York minute.
Anyhow, I was at Villa Market the other day and made the stroll down Massage Parlor Alley soi 11-13. I spotted a nice young one, named Ann from Issarn. She wanted 1500 for the suckie fuckie deal and with with some very fast painless negotiating, the deal was commenced at 1200 baht. She didn't have any horrible stretch marks, body was pretty nice and had a firm ass. At first she wanted to do blow job with condom and I hate that and wasn't having any of it. I told her I'll leave (this is why you should always pay and do massage AFTER the show is over) and she gets no money. She said ok then gave a pretty lame BJ, lots of not so tantalizing licking and she couldn't go down very far. Nevertheless, I was ready for the main event and this was much much better. She was fit and snug and turned her over doggystyle and her ass was one hell of a sight to behold! After some good poking action, I pulled the rubber off and glazed her back with a generous amount of goo LOL. Paid and left satisfied.
[QUOTE=Bartchamdo; 1409775]I haven't done comparison pricing of single malt whiskey, but from what I've seen bourbon does have the same price increase as other liquors. A typical price for 1 Liter of Jim Beam or Jack Daniels is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1200. 1400 baht. That's about double the US price and about quadruple of what you'd pay in Phnom Penh Cambodia. (Oddly you can get American booze cheaper in Cambodia than in the USA.)
You write that you know Thai whiskey exists. Really? Mekong, for instance, sells itself as a whiskey, but is actually a rum. What Thai whiskeys are there? I'd be very surprised if I found there were any Thai bourbons or single malts. I don't think any Thai products are in competition in this market.[/QUOTE]You're correct. The locals call it "whiskey" but it is a rum, and labeled as such.
I'm sure there is not enough grain production to come up with anything like a single malt. Lao khao would qualify as a whiskey, I think, but of course is made with rice. I also don't think there is enough corn production to justify making a bourbon.
[QUOTE=Bartchamdo; 1409775]I haven't done comparison pricing of single malt whiskey, but from what I've seen bourbon does have the same price increase as other liquors. A typical price for 1 Liter of Jim Beam or Jack Daniels is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1200. 1400 baht. That's about double the US price and about quadruple of what you'd pay in Phnom Penh Cambodia. (Oddly you can get American booze cheaper in Cambodia than in the USA.)
You write that you know Thai whiskey exists. Really? Mekong, for instance, sells itself as a whiskey, but is actually a rum. What Thai whiskeys are there? I'd be very surprised if I found there were any Thai bourbons or single malts. I don't think any Thai products are in competition in this market.[/QUOTE]It could be cheaper in Cambodia than the US because of the taxes. Simply, if Cambodia charges less tax on alcohol than in the States, then it will be cheaper. However, they can simply be counterfeit. Two nights ago, I was talking to one of the mobile bar owners about this. I asked her how much she paid for her Jack Daniels, and it was something like 1200 baht. Then she told me about the much cheaper counterfeit JD. She showed me the genuine bottle and explained how the counterfeit stuff was different. She said the label wasn't as glossy, but more easily detected (once open) was there was no plastic bit in the top. Not sure what the purpose is, but it's probably to allow air into the bottle while pouring so you don't get that "glug glug glug" effect.
Thanks for the advice Crocodile. Looks good and something you would see in a Harvard business negotiations course. Don't act like that with them and kid like I kid about anyone. Frankly, one of the bigger dick moves I did by telling the girls at Mandarin I cummed in the hot one's eye, made the girls way more "wanting me" $$$ I don't think it was lost in translation so you do the math. I hope she didn't want me because I was V'd up and not too delicate with her.
I admit, I got some beginner's luck on the free V. I'm sure some washed up bar girls from back in the day and won't be that easy going forward. Almost as much work as USA.
Went to some of the Bangkok college girl hangouts. Wowww Fucking gorgeous girls, way better then pros.
Sad state of affairs. Caught some bird flu type shit here and going to have to take the night off. Maybe call up one of my freebies if my nose can stop dripping snot. Will open up my wallet later this week with the pros.
[QUOTE=RBDave;1409796]It could be cheaper in Cambodia than the US because of the taxes. Simply, if Cambodia charges less tax on alcohol than in the States, then it will be cheaper. However, they can simply be counterfeit. Two nights ago, I was talking to one of the mobile bar owners about this. I asked her how much she paid for her Jack Daniels, and it was something like 1200 baht. Then she told me about the much cheaper counterfeit JD. She showed me the genuine bottle and explained how the counterfeit stuff was different. She said the label wasn't as glossy, but more easily detected (once open) was there was no plastic bit in the top. Not sure what the purpose is, but it's probably to allow air into the bottle while pouring so you don't get that "glug glug glug" effect.[/QUOTE]And no comments on the actual difference in the product?
Several fish tank massage on pethaburi road. One called angelina near ekamai intersection on petburi has afternoon 1200-1300 deal FS room included and many choices. Better % of nice experience compared with sukumwit lethargic girls.
Amazing how go go dancers want 2000 and up for st plus bar fine. High % low motivation, low interest. Face it they are there NOT because they like sex, but like money. At least act interested for the money.
2600 and up is absurd. For 200 and up theres much better uni like gals at rachada road massage places (start from emerald hotel and walk with traffic and you will see many. Much nicer looking fish and it seems even improved brain function. Lets face it, the brain is connected to the puxxy. Also if not happy with the fish management usually offers a different one. Low motivation fish can get filtered out due to complaints from thai and other patrons.
No way to get sukhumwit FL's fired and expelled from the area LOL.
All in all FL and go go girls are not very interesting due to issues; laziness, scamming, lying, low interest / ability. Sex is better pre-mortem unlike that of high % of these girls.
[QUOTE=RBDave;1409796](once open) was there was no plastic bit in the top. Not sure what the purpose is, but it's probably to allow air into the bottle while pouring so you don't get that "glug glug glug" effect.[/QUOTE]Correct and also one can pour it in a more controlled way as the rather large opening might result in a lot of liquid suddendly going out.
[QUOTE=RBDave;1409796]It could be cheaper in Cambodia than the US because of the taxes. Simply, if Cambodia charges less tax on alcohol than in the States, then it will be cheaper. However, they can simply be counterfeit. Two nights ago, I was talking to one of the mobile bar owners about this. I asked her how much she paid for her Jack Daniels, and it was something like 1200 baht. Then she told me about the much cheaper counterfeit JD. She showed me the genuine bottle and explained how the counterfeit stuff was different. She said the label wasn't as glossy, but more easily detected (once open) was there was no plastic bit in the top. Not sure what the purpose is, but it's probably to allow air into the bottle while pouring so you don't get that "glug glug glug" effect.[/QUOTE]Cambodia has no tax on alcohol.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1409789]That's interesting you mention about being laid off or fired. More than one person told me they would rather keep someone on the payroll who was worthless than having to pay his / her unemployment benefits, unlike the western world where they're not so shy about shitcanning you in a New York minute.
Anyhow, I was at Villa Market the other day and made the stroll down Massage Parlor Alley soi 11-13. I spotted a nice young one, named Ann from Issarn. She wanted 1500 for the suckie fuckie deal and with with some very fast painless negotiating, the deal was commenced at 1200 baht. She didn't have any horrible stretch marks, body was pretty nice and had a firm ass. At first she wanted to do blow job with condom and I hate that and wasn't having any of it. I told her I'll leave (this is why you should always pay and do massage AFTER the show is over) and she gets no money. She said ok then gave a pretty lame BJ, lots of not so tantalizing licking and she couldn't go down very far. Nevertheless, I was ready for the main event and this was much much better. She was fit and snug and turned her over doggystyle and her ass was one hell of a sight to behold! After some good poking action, I pulled the rubber off and glazed her back with a generous amount of goo LOL. Paid and left satisfied.[/QUOTE]Yep, I think the severance pay thing here is great. The first 90 days are probationary. If you let the employee go you pay the current months salary only. From three months to three years you owe them three months salary plus the current month, plus one month of "shock" pay if you do not let them know 30 days in advance. 3 years to 6 years is 6 months plus plus. 6.9 years is 9 months plus plus, and over 9 years is one years pay plus plus. When there is a downturn many companies have staff agree to take a pay cut for a certain amount of time instead of laying people off. Far better for all concerned. Would love to see this in the states!
[QUOTE=RBDave;1409796]However, they can simply be counterfeit. Two nights ago, I was talking to one of the mobile bar owners about this. I asked her how much she paid for her Jack Daniels, and it was something like 1200 baht. Then she told me about the much cheaper counterfeit JD. She showed me the genuine bottle and explained how the counterfeit stuff was different. She said the label wasn't as glossy, but more easily detected (once open) was there was no plastic bit in the top. Not sure what the purpose is, but it's probably to allow air into the bottle while pouring so you don't get that "glug glug glug" effect.[/QUOTE]Some of the JD in Cambodia is fake, but not all. There was a whole thread on spotting fake JD on another forum. Here is (supposedly) the official word from the manufacturer:
"First, look through the back of the bottle, through the whiskey so you can see behind the front label. If there is a code printed on the glass behind the front label, it is a genuine Jack Daniel's bottle. Second, make sure the cap is unopened. If these two criteria are met, the bottle and its contents are genuine."
Thailand's water festival & New Year is from 13 April to 15 April.
Any tips?
[QUOTE=Harold444;1410071]Why do the guys who get FREE alwyas end up wanting to pay?[/QUOTE]Don't believe everything you read on this forum! LOL.
Seems odd that the dude's posts have all disappeared. We could learn a lot from somebody with as much game as he has. Or claims to.
Well, the good news is I got to ogle some of the most beautiful working girls I've ever seen in BKK outside of the Ratchada MPs.
The bad news is that I was strolling down Soi Thaniya while doing it.
Man, talk about feeling invisible. I don't think I could get arrested on that soi. Exactly one girl looked at me, smiled and waved. The rest just looked through me as if I weren't there.
Unfortunately, I wasn't invisible to the touts. One particularly insistent female tout insisted the girls did like farang. But I wasn't a buyer at that time, anyway, so it didn't matter.
It was rather fun, and a reality check. I will say I'll never look at the slappers in Soi Nana the same way again. LOL
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1410183]Well, the good news is I got to ogle some of the most beautiful working girls I've ever seen in BKK outside of the Ratchada MPs.
The bad news is that I was strolling down Soi Thaniya while doing it.
Man, talk about feeling invisible. I don't think I could get arrested on that soi. Exactly one girl looked at me, smiled and waved. The rest just looked through me as if I weren't there.
Unfortunately, I wasn't invisible to the touts. One particularly insistent female tout insisted the girls did like farang. But I wasn't a buyer at that time, anyway, so it didn't matter.
It was rather fun, and a reality check. I will say I'll never look at the slappers in Soi Nana the same way again. LOL[/QUOTE]That whole Patpong area sucks with all the pingpong show clowns and I'm not sure you can get into one of the Soi Thaniya places unless you're 100% Nippon. I might wear a salaryman uniform and see if they'll let me in LOL.
Also many many Peter-Puffers around there too.
I am coming to Bangkok airport at 3:30pm which seems to be the worst time since a lot of other flights will be coming in at the same time therefore I am assuming that customs will be a nightmare. A friend of mine said that since I am flying in Business class that there is a fast track line for business and first class passages.
My question is that is this true that there is a separate custom line for Business and First Class travelers? And if there is such a line, can someone tell me where it is located?
If not, I was also told by someone else that there are actually 2 custom stations and if I see the first custom station with a lot of people, just keep walking and there should be a 2nd custom station about 5 minutes further down which should be shorter.
Thanks for any help.
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1410260]I am coming to Bangkok airport at 3:30pm which seems to be the worst time since a lot of other flights will be coming in at the same time therefore I am assuming that customs will be a nightmare. A friend of mine said that since I am flying in Business class that there is a fast track line for business and first class passages.
Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]There is a VIP fast track and it is located in between the two main immigration area. Yo uwill recognize it as it says VIP and Visa on Demand. Just go to the VIP and then you will see "fast track" above the booth. Keep you Business class boarding card tag at ahnds in case they did not give you, whilst and the plane, the "fast track card.
There are a few customs gate but often only one is mannered. I never seen much que there. If you see one, just skip it as often customs officers send some passengers to the x-ray machine based on profiling hte customers. You will see what I mean. If you are not one of those profiled nationalities, just walk through. Worst case scenario (never happened to me) they will stop you nad ask to pass your luggage thriugh the X-ray machine. Obviously walking through does not mean "running through"
[QUOTE=Pua88;1410166]Thailand's water festival & New Year is from 13 April to 15 April.Any tips?[/QUOTE]Walk around being ready to get wet
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1410260]I am coming to Bangkok airport at 3:30pm which seems to be the worst time since a lot of other flights will be coming in at the same time therefore I am assuming that customs will be a nightmare. A friend of mine said that since I am flying in Business class that there is a fast track line for business and first class passages.
My question is that is this true that there is a separate custom line for Business and First Class travelers? And if there is such a line, can someone tell me where it is located?
If not, I was also told by someone else that there are actually 2 custom stations and if I see the first custom station with a lot of people, just keep walking and there should be a 2nd custom station about 5 minutes further down which should be shorter.
Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]Fast Track on arrival depends on which airline you are travelling on. There is no bad time for immigration (I assume you mean immigration and not customs) at BKK. It always runs pretty smoothly.
Here is more information. I am holding USA passport and my flight will arrive around 3:30pm Eva airline. New to Bangkok and their immigration system. I was told that I should receive a fast track coupon on the plane prior to arrival.
If I understand it, the VIP fast track should be pass the regular immigration line or very close to the immigration line? Thanks
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1410260]I am coming to Bangkok airport at 3:30pm which seems to be the worst time since a lot of other flights will be coming in at the same time therefore I am assuming that customs will be a nightmare. A friend of mine said that since I am flying in Business class that there is a fast track line for business and first class passages.
My question is that is this true that there is a separate custom line for Business and First Class travelers? And if there is such a line, can someone tell me where it is located?
If not, I was also told by someone else that there are actually 2 custom stations and if I see the first custom station with a lot of people, just keep walking and there should be a 2nd custom station about 5 minutes further down which should be shorter.
Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]As Mr Enternational tells you it depends on your airline and if your airline has bothered to buy this service at the airport. Some airlines have this service written on the ticket and some gives you a tag you have to show. But the last couple of years I have rarerly experienced any que in the normal immigration lines so even if I mostly travel on C-class I go through this one. Fast track or not you have to wait for baggage to arrive anyway (atleast most mongers tend to have a checked in bag filled with sextoys I believe). Lately I have had atleast same waiting time in the fasttracklane than in the normal line. You will hit one of the normal immigrationscheckpoints first except if your airline dock approx in the middle of concourse D(where the fast track is located).
I have not managed the last 2 years to spot a time during the day worse than other when we speak of lines crowded by people. I think BKK has become an asian airport with high standards which runs smoothly all day long. If you want to travel back in time you should try go to Manila and you will hit 3 world standards airportwice (maby ex terminal 3).
Happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1410308]As Mr Enternational tells you it depends on your airline and if your airline has bothered to buy this service at the airport. Some airlines have this service written on the ticket and some gives you a tag you have to show. But the last couple of years I have rarerly experienced any que in the normal immigration lines so even if I mostly travel on C-class I go through this one. Fast track or not you have to wait for baggage to arrive anyway (atleast most mongers tend to have a checked in bag filled with sextoys I believe). Lately I have had atleast same waiting time in the fasttracklane than in the normal line. You will hit one of the normal immigrationscheckpoints first except if your airline dock approx in the middle of concourse D (where the fast track is located).
I have not managed the last 2 years to spot a time during the day worse than other when we speak of lines crowded by people. I think BKK has become an asian airport with high standards which runs smoothly all day long. If you want to travel back in time you should try go to Manila and you will hit 3 world standards airportwice (maby ex terminal 3).
Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. Just some of the people that have been traveling to Bangkok scared me pretty good by telling me that I should expect to wait from 60-90 minutes to get through immigration since my flight is coming in during rush hour.
I do have 1 checked in bag so I would need to wait for that to arrive.
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1410332]Thanks for the information. Just some of the people that have been traveling to Bangkok scared me pretty good by telling me that I should expect to wait from 60-90 minutes to get through immigration since my flight is coming in during rush hour.
I do have 1 checked in bag so I would need to wait for that to arrive.[/QUOTE]Ask the airline for the premium pass.
But they have made huge improvements for none pass holders. My last 3 times it took no more than 10 minutes to get thru immigration.
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1410260]I am coming to Bangkok airport at 3:30pm which seems to be the worst time since a lot of other flights will be coming in at the same time therefore I am assuming that customs will be a nightmare. A friend of mine said that since I am flying in Business class that there is a fast track line for business and first class passages.
My question is that is this true that there is a separate custom line for Business and First Class travelers? And if there is such a line, can someone tell me where it is located?
If not, I was also told by someone else that there are actually 2 custom stations and if I see the first custom station with a lot of people, just keep walking and there should be a 2nd custom station about 5 minutes further down which should be shorter.
Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]During my last three trips, my immigration wait times were about 45 minutes. 30 minutes, and 20 minutes. I arrive around noon. It's been much better since they make everyone stand the same queue. And only during my 45 minute wait, was my luggage already on the carousel, so as mentioned before, it didn't really matter that I got through "fast" or not the other two times.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1410334]Ask the airline for the premium pass.
But they have made huge improvements for none pass holders. My last 3 times it took no more than 10 minutes to get thru immigration.[/QUOTE]My last trip Nov 12 was no more than 15 min and I arrived 6 pm
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1410308]As Mr Enternational tells you it depends on your airline and if your airline has bothered to buy this service at the airport. Some airlines have this service written on the ticket and some gives you a tag you have to show. But the last couple of years I have rarerly experienced any que in the normal immigration lines so even if I mostly travel on C-class I go through this one. Fast track or not you have to wait for baggage to arrive anyway (atleast most mongers tend to have a checked in bag filled with sextoys I believe). Lately I have had atleast same waiting time in the fasttracklane than in the normal line. You will hit one of the normal immigrationscheckpoints first except if your airline dock approx in the middle of concourse D (where the fast track is located).
I have not managed the last 2 years to spot a time during the day worse than other when we speak of lines crowded by people. I think BKK has become an asian airport with high standards which runs smoothly all day long. If you want to travel back in time you should try go to Manila and you will hit 3 world standards airportwice (maby ex terminal 3).
Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Does it matter if a person is flying on Thai Air in Business Class? Is the arrival time at 10 pm a "slow" period? When arriving late in the evening, there seems to be a lot of other planes arriving from around the region and the arrival area is rather busy for that time of night. I can't imagine a bigger rush in the afternoon. My average has been about 40-45 minutes from touchdown to getting out of the customs.
I fly first on EVA (premium laurel) and my last trip the fast track people picked me up at the gate as I was leaving the plane with a golf cart and whisked me through. Only delay was the bag off the carousel but that was only a few milutes.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1410348]Does it matter if a person is flying on Thai Air in Business Class? Is the arrival time at 10 pm a "slow" period? When arriving late in the evening, there seems to be a lot of other planes arriving from around the region and the arrival area is rather busy for that time of night. I can't imagine a bigger rush in the afternoon. My average has been about 40-45 minutes from touchdown to getting out of the customs.[/QUOTE]Immigration is same for all airlines, BKK is an airport working nearly 24hrs in immigration. I am often in Nana area appr 1hr after touch down and I fly business class, most of the times, as Isue the fast track. The only critical moment is entering the town at appr 7/9 am, but this has nothing to do with the airport
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1410183]Well, the good news is I got to ogle some of the most beautiful working girls I've ever seen in BKK outside of the Ratchada MPs.
The bad news is that I was strolling down Soi Thaniya while doing it.
Man, talk about feeling invisible. I don't think I could get arrested on that soi. Exactly one girl looked at me, smiled and waved. The rest just looked through me as if I weren't there.
Unfortunately, I wasn't invisible to the touts. One particularly insistent female tout insisted the girls did like farang. But I wasn't a buyer at that time, anyway, so it didn't matter.
It was rather fun, and a reality check. I will say I'll never look at the slappers in Soi Nana the same way again. LOL[/QUOTE]Now that the yen is tanking against the baht, it will be interesting to see how it effects biz at Thaniya. Probably be even more of them in Thermae if that is possible. The number of Non-Japanese Asian dudes participating in the P4P scene has increased geometrically over the last year. I was out and about last night and was stunned at the number of Korean and Chinese guys that were strolling Suk with their working girls in tow. Also amazed at how many of the gals with them were not that good looking. Sad thing is that I am sure most of these guys are paying top dollar. Just wait to see what effect that has on the market and with more and more Chinese coming, yesh! Must mention that the only freelancer place that had lookers was Thermae, but of course the chicks I am interested in are Japanese only and probably would not rim me, or provide the kind of service I expect. Bangkok Beat was awful. Old dudes and older gals. Of course it is Songkhran and lots of gals go home. All in all a pretty dour.
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1410260]If not, I was also told by someone else that there are actually 2 custom stations and if I see the first custom station with a lot of people, just keep walking and there should be a 2nd custom station about 5 minutes further down which should be shorter.
Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]Not customs, but Immigration. They have now installed flat screen monitors at the entrance to the Immigration halls, so you can see how "good" or "bad" the waiting is at the other hall, so you can take an informed decision whether or not to walk to the other hall.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1410436]Just wait to see what effect that has on the market and with more and more Chinese coming, yesh![/QUOTE]Not going to be a major factor. China already has literally millions of prostitutes at every imaginable price level. The experience is usually inferior to Thailand (more quick / mechanical) , but still, you won't see hordes of sex-starved men from China coming down to Thailand specifically for sex. Those at the bottom of the pile are too poor to travel, and those in the middle / upper classes have enough poon already. For them it's more of a side-show if they go to Bangkok on holiday or business.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1410487]Not going to be a major factor. China already has literally millions of prostitutes at every imaginable price level. The experience is usually inferior to Thailand (more quick / mechanical) , but still, you won't see hordes of sex-starved men from China coming down to Thailand specifically for sex. Those at the bottom of the pile are too poor to travel, and those in the middle / upper classes have enough poon already. For them it's more of a side-show if they go to Bangkok on holiday or business.[/QUOTE]I certainly hope that you are right, but with the huge shortage of women in China, well, it could be ugly.
Not related to girls, but a guy's got to eat sometime.
Had a tip that the view was nice at the Residence Arun, so decided to try it yesterday (Friday). Had to Google it and find the address. GF and I decided to taxi over instead of drive. Got there about 7:15 and the place was really busy. Sat upstairs, as the downstairs was full.
Their claim to fame is two decks that overlook the Chao Phraya. The view of what Arun at night is quite nice. And watching the boats cruise up and down the river, while sipping drinks, is enjoyable.
Speaking of drinks, they have a huge specialty cocktail menu. The bartender seems to know his shit. My Daiquiri was done very well, and that's not easy to find here. I don't use Triple Sec, but that's a minor quibble. GF had something with gin and maraschino cherry, forget the name, it was done properly, too. Price was about 170 per. Not bad for a properly mixed cocktail, and light years better than the $20 shit they pawn off on the tourists at Sky Bar. Stupid ass bartender at Sky Bar couldn't mix a mojito if his life depended on it. Of course the view isn't the same, so there is that.
We stayed for dinner. The place has an Italian theme (but plenty of generally farang dishes, too) , and Thai available. We opted for the farang. The guys next to us were eating Thai and it, too, looked really good. We split the grilled mushroom appetizer, which was quite good. Special note. Unlike some farang oriented places in TH, they know to bring the appetizer FIRST, and the entrée second. I had the grilled red snapper with dill cream sauce, she had the duck leg confit. Both were quite good and properly cooked. We split an orange crepe for dessert. I thought the strawberry and nut flavor ice cream clashed a bit with the orange sauce, but overall it was good. Tip. The ice cream is homemade and very tasty.
So. 2 cocktails. 1 appetizer. 2 entrees. 1 dessert. Damage (including service charge and VAT) was just under 1, 800 baht. Not the most expensive meal in BKK, certainly not the cheapest, but very good value for money. I also noted that about half of the clientele were Thai.
That was one end of the spectrum. The other was lunch today (Saturday). We checked out of the condo and drove to her house near Rangsit. We stopped for lunch at her favorite noodle place, which is also my favorite. It's one of those dumpy-ass fake boat looking things in the mosquito breeding ground, err, canal.
Lunch consisted of 2 bowls (the bowls are small) of "boat noodles," two bowls of "dry noodles," one dish of khanom jeen, a plate of pork balls, two bottles of est cola and a couple of tiny dishes of some coconut dessert which I can't spell. The boat noodles are some of the best I've eaten. Left stuffed. Total damage. 150 baht.
I couldn't find the noodle joint on a bet, but if you are looking for a good place to take your GF du jour, you could do worse than the Arun Residence
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1409079]I have to share this with you guys. Instead for going for freelances like usually (currently got one, really nice, with 3000LT damage, which keeps returning. For the money I am afraid. But a young and fresh lady, appearing very innocent and insecure. And from Isan of course. I went today to the massage parlor ANNIE's, where so many people talk about.
Here is my report, and I really believe it should also be seen by BGK report people not "Annie's fanatics" only so that's why I post here:
What a sad and "cheap looking" place. Really. I was astonished about the bad quality all over.
Annie's appears like a frustrated slave driver and so do the girls, let's better say middle-aged women. As posted earlier, the pictures on the homepage and walls appear really outdated to a good part and when I was there (5pm, supposedly a good time) there were plenty of girls (around 10-15) but none really nice, and most definitely over 25.
The thing which shocked me most was that the atmosphere in the house as well as in the fish bowl appeared really sad. The girls frustrated and worn out.
Okay whatever, I took the best looking one (later were told she is 27,"Lala" or so; #6) as I wanted to make the experience and as so many here write so positively about Annies.
The girls appeared nice, the first 5min. Then I already waited 10min alone in room until she came back. She washed me on a special mattress, rubbing her body on me. Was nice, but after she but her away (to not get wet) and after undressing I was not much attracted anymore. Hanging breasts, and face which now also could be a lady boy. Whatever. What already turned me off here was the obvious standard routine of a completely bored and really worn out woman. I never saw such a sad "working lady", and I saw a lot, believe me. Yet, she did not appear to be an exception at that place.
Well after having some wash session on the mattress I was put to the bathing tube. Was okay, and she made a nice hand job. The blow jobs actually were all pretty bad, I could feel her teeth. And she was going to stress my little Boy too much from time to time. The touch simply was not gentle, but very mechanic.
Well I came with her hand job. Was good, but nothing special as she did not touch me except on my dick.
Well then we went on the bed to continue with another massage (remember that they promise 2hrs for 2500- all included). We both made a 10min break small talking. The girl was nice, but she was desparate so my feeling. She asked for a "water". For THB 120. I was lauging and said no. I myself was frustrated by then and was again disappointed by the cheap policies of that place. 120- I do not even pay for a beer in most gogo places. (Pattaya is 65-)
I wondered what was coming next. It was an okay normal massage on the back and then on the front. With again lots of monotonolus blow jobs (which again hurted more than they were nice, because she was going too far with her hands from time to time). She then desperately tried that I quickly come, shake my little Friend like crazy. I alsmost came a few times but then always something hurt. Again, everything appeared very mechanical (just as a side note, I had a normal massage in Pattaya and was asked at some point for "full service"? I said yes, got a super-hand job with oil from a middle-aged average looking woman. Did not matter. At least she had a very good touch and gave a great feeling; the damage there was THB 700-). Well I did not come a second time although she tried badly. I said at some point I have enough because I was worried that she really hurts me at some point. With permanent damage which would be a desaster for the remaining BGK days. .
I left after 90min, greatly disappointed and slightly disgusted by the place. The girls, and the business.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree with your more. Back in the days when it was a 1000 and there were some nice choices it was a fun friendly spot until the owners realised you could target the newbies around Nana use the net and get away with charging 2500. Had they put some of the extra money into the place and recruited some real talent instead of investing in new shops it would have more acceptable to longer term residents. That said they seem to have their admirers and when the ladies are past their best they can head over to Soi7/1 to see out their old age on the P4P scene.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1410531]I certainly hope that you are right, but with the huge shortage of women in China, well, it could be ugly.[/QUOTE]An Adult Toy trade Exhibition is running this weekend in Shangai. Sales and visitors are booming. The number of men using aadult toys is increasing as they out-number the women by 30%
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1410195]Strolling down soi thaniya, the sex girls, not a dark skin in sight. LOL. Just how I like them. I ts just my dna-light skin turns me on.
Anyone notice all those who partake in songkran are Dark skin types. Only white skin are the HOOLIGANS![/QUOTE]Huh, IMO and that of a Japanese expat and Bangkok most of Thaniya girls are Isaan Nana style in Japan dress style. One needs to learn how to differentiate whitening powder / cream from non whiteners.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1410581]It might do you a whole lot of good to get out of Thailand for a few months. You really don't appreciaate what you got.[/QUOTE]No Harold, I really appreciate what we had here. I do get out of the country and find that does not really make the P4P scene here any more attractive. Hell, P4P in almost all places in Asia is a shadow of what it was 10 years ago. Cambo is another example. I certainly would not move here for the P4P now. There are so many other great things about living in Thailand though and those are what keep me here. Hey, it is great to go have an oily a few times a month, but the scene is just not that fun.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1410655]No Harold, I really appreciate what we had here. I do get out of the country and find that does not really make the P4P scene here any more attractive. Hell, P4P in almost all places in Asia is a shadow of what it was 10 years ago. Cambo is another example. I certainly would not move here for the P4P now. There are so many other great things about living in Thailand though and those are what keep me here. Hey, it is great to go have an oily a few times a month, but the scene is just not that fun.[/QUOTE]Why would anyone move to a place just for the P4P?
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi;1409079]Here is my report, and I really believe it should also be seen by BGK report people not "Annie's fanatics" only so that's why I post here[/QUOTE]Right, the only people who read the Annie's thread are fanatics and the open minded people read the other threads. It does not take much intelligence to figure out we read all the threads. Duh. Notice that people who post reports do so on several different threads.
Guys who go to Annie's know it's run down; and anyone who reads the Annie's posts over the preceding few months will learn that is the case. Guys who go to MPs on a regular basis know on any given visit the pickings may be slim and going with a girl they're not familiar with is a crap shoot. However, if you read the Annie's thread over the past year, you'll see there are a number of girls there who get good to excellent reviews.
Your over the top rant appears to be a fanatic effort to disparage Annie's. And it is based on how many visits?
One?
Right.
I have no problem with people who post that number so and so was a starfish, that they found the facilities run down and the mamasan's personality was lacking. Likewise I have no problem when guys gush and wax on about Annie's amazing #24 as though she was a goddess. But when someone appear to have an ax to grind it calls the credibility of the report into question and makes me wonder about the person's real motivation, and who is his employer.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1410677]Why would anyone move to a place just for the P4P?[/QUOTE]A lot do. Look at the patrons of some bars in Pattaya, BKK. Their life is nothng else than sipping beer at 11am and make it through the day with some lady aside them. In some cases youwonder whether she is a bed partner or a nanny.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1410744]A lot do. Look at the patrons of some bars in Pattaya, BKK. Their life is nothng else than sipping beer at 11am and make it through the day with some lady aside them. In some cases youwonder whether she is a bed partner or a nanny.[/QUOTE]Ain't it the truth!
Such a sad spectacle to see some overweight expat propping up the end of some bar with a beer safety wired to his hand. When he finally staggers home it may be to some ex-BG hag. The lure of the P4P scene usually turns out to be fools gold.
[quote=goatscrot;1410655]no harold, i really appreciate what we had here. i do get out of the country and find that does not really make the p4p scene here any more attractive. hell, p4p in almost all places in asia is a shadow of what it was 10 years ago. cambo is another example. i certainly would not move here for the p4p now. there are so many other great things about living in thailand though and those are what keep me here. hey, it is great to go have an oily a few times a month, but the scene is just not that fun.[/quote]cambo is a great example! but with the internet and cheap flights, not to mention every **** and his brother trekking there, it's nothing like it was. heck, a guy over 50 can't even marry a cambo woman any more. way to go, sexpats!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1410677]Why would anyone move to a place just for the P4P?[/QUOTE]Ever been to Angeles City? Just ask some of the guys who live there. Because there isn't anything else there besides that to draw a person to live there.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1410841]Ever been to Angeles City? Just ask some of the guys who live there. Because there isn't anything else there besides that to draw a person to live there.[/QUOTE]I'm sure that most of us who have lived long-term as expatriates, have met the guys whose entire lives are spent glued to bar stools throughout most of the day and night, with intermittent interludes of chasing women. I can remember meeting similar groups all over SE Asia and Africa, and I'm sure had I spent time in South America, I would have met them there as well. This phenomenon isn't limited to P4P places like Angeles City or Pattaya; it also exists in major cities like Jakarta and HCM, Bangkok and Manila.
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1410677]Why would anyone move to a place just for the P4P?[/QUOTE]Lots of guys do, or at least they used to.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1410717]Right, the only people who read the Annie's thread are fanatics and the open minded people read the other threads. It does not take much intelligence to figure out we read all the threads. Duh. Notice that people who post reports do so on several different threads.
Guys who go to Annie's know it's run down; and anyone who reads the Annie's posts over the preceding few months will learn that is the case. Guys who go to MPs on a regular basis know on any given visit the pickings may be slim and going with a girl they're not familiar with is a crap shoot. However, if you read the Annie's thread over the past year, you'll see there are a number of girls there who get good to excellent reviews.
Your over the top rant appears to be a fanatic effort to disparage Annie's. And it is based on how many visits?
One?
Right.
I have no problem with people who post that number so and so was a starfish, that they found the facilities run down and the mamasan's personality was lacking. Likewise I have no problem when guys gush and wax on about Annie's amazing #24 as though she was a goddess. But when someone appear to have an ax to grind it calls the credibility of the report into question and makes me wonder about the person's real motivation, and who is his employer.[/QUOTE]I've reread Ali's report and fail to see where it could call his credibility into question. How mant times do you have to visit a place to know what it is like. I thought he tried to be kind in his description of the service he got but he was disappointed and posted accordingly. This just is just another example of a coordinated concerted campaign by certain establishments to discourage negative reviews. They use the forum extensively to drum up interest by creating an image of high class talent in superior facilities when anybody with a modicum of awareness of the P4P scene in Bangkok knows this is far from the truth. Live and let live.
Last month first week of March 2 days in Bangkok and 2 days in Pattaya. Worth of penny. Bangkok I took 4 in two days. 2 thai 1 african 1 uzbek. All are good.
Service will differ. Best is thai. Uzbek and africa are equall. Thai are so knowledgeable in sex. The history speaks. Woh. Amazing BBBJ. DF. What else you name it they do and pleasure. Uzbek and africa is nice but more money minded. If you are not little stuborn they will starts new payment in between the seasons.
Looks; 7/10.
Service / 9/10.
Damage. That 1. 5k +.5 (little high but I loved I enjoyed so dosnt mind)
Damage. Uzben+afr. 2k +.2.
Thaliand amazing. Pleasureable. May be I am planning next trip soon to BKK and phuket. (any phuket ideas please,)
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1410882]Can anyone tell me what else there is in Thailand that would make one want to live here-Besides the Issan light skin girls. I can't think of any. LOL.
Theres a reason why well rounded rich people are not coming here to retire in droves.[/QUOTE]I agree a thousand percent. Even with great sex I find that these days after 2 or 3 weeks I'm bored and want to be somewhere else.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1411347]RE- older providers.
Yes they are more relaxed and are better at what they do than hot young chicks. The one thing they lack is the fantasy factor- only hot pretty girls can provide this and guys are willing to pay up for it. LOL.
At the massage parlour I frequent girls range in age from 20 to 30. There is so much difference in what an over 25 year old looks like compared to the younger ones. The older ones just don't excite guys. They usually are the ones taken after the young ones are gone.
I've even tried a few late 20s girls and while they are ok, they don't provide the sizzle. The eyes are wrinkly, ass not as firm, etc.
Its a good thing we don't all like the same thing. Prices would be outrageous for that particular subset if we all did.[/QUOTE]Just to present another point of view, I'll start by saying that I'm most likely one of the older contributors here so that may help explain my views. In my experience over at least ten trips to BKK, Pattaya, and other locations my absolutely best experiences have been with older women. Just like in my business, experience is important, including "life experience". One of my current ATFs that I see regularly is 46. And she is absolutely incredible. If you didn't know her age, she could easily pass for 30ish. She's had two kids and she is still slim, trim, and firm in all the right places. Incredible woman.
And she is not an exception to my point. Several others in their late 30s and 40s have been delightful. With the younger ones. By that I mean under 25. I find it to be a hit or miss proposition, more often "miss". In general, they are just "doing a job" and there seems to be no connection. The older ones seem to genuinely enjoy the connection, which makes the entire experience so very much better.
[QUOTE=Guru3; 1410977]Last month first week of March 2 days in Bangkok and 2 days in Pattaya. Worth of penny. Bangkok I took 4 in two days. 2 thai 1 african 1 uzbek. All are good.
Service will differ. Best is thai. Uzbek and africa are equall. Thai are so knowledgeable in sex. The history speaks. Woh. Amazing BBBJ. DF. What else you name it they do and pleasure. Uzbek and africa is nice but more money minded. If you are not little stuborn they will starts new payment in between the seasons.
Damage. Uzben+afr. 2k +.2.
Thaliand amazing. Pleasureable. May be I am planning next trip soon to BKK and phuket. (any phuket ideas please,) [/QUOTE]Guru3,
So, did you get laid in Pataya? Also where you get the usbek girl (in Bangkok)?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1411347]RE- older providers.
Yes they are more relaxed and are better at what they do than hot young chicks. The one thing they lack is the fantasy factor- only hot pretty girls can provide this and guys are willing to pay up for it. LOL.
At the massage parlour I frequent girls range in age from 20 to 30. There is so much difference in what an over 25 year old looks like compared to the younger ones. The older ones just don't excite guys. They usually are the ones taken after the young ones are gone.
I've even tried a few late 20s girls and while they are ok, they don't provide the sizzle. The eyes are wrinkly, ass not as firm, etc.
Its a good thing we don't all like the same thing. Prices would be outrageous for that particular subset if we all did.[/QUOTE]I find girls in their late 20s to have far better bodies (when it comes to Thai women) than the younger early 20 set. The early 20 gals look like 13 yr old choirboys to me for the most part. I like tits, a small waist, and a nice ass. We are all so different. I get very little sizzle from early 20s.
[QUOTE=Sirwilliam4; 1411368]Just to present another point of view, I'll start by saying that I'm most likely one of the older contributors here so that may help explain my views. In my experience over at least ten trips to BKK, Pattaya, and other locations my absolutely best experiences have been with older women. Just like in my business, experience is important, including "life experience". One of my current ATFs that I see regularly is 46. And she is absolutely incredible. If you didn't know her age, she could easily pass for 30ish. She's had two kids and she is still slim, trim, and firm in all the right places. Incredible woman.
And she is not an exception to my point. Several others in their late 30s and 40s have been delightful. With the younger ones. By that I mean under 25. I find it to be a hit or miss proposition, more often "miss". In general, they are just "doing a job" and there seems to be no connection. The older ones seem to genuinely enjoy the connection, which makes the entire experience so very much better.[/QUOTE]Agree with all of the above. I actually have had a gal that is one year older than me. Had her first when she was 43, now she is 48. No kid, rock hard body, and unreal performer. Wants to come and come and come. Loves the act, loved cum, loves to have every one of her holes licked and reciprocates. I thought she was at most 32 and was so stunned I asked to see her I'd. Yep, most of the young 'uns are just going through the motions. If they do happen to enjoy the act it is in a hungry eat, horny f*ck sort of way. They really have very little passion and skill compared to their older counterparts.
In contrast, I find American women are far more switched on when they are in their early 20s. It has always amazed me how many Thai working girls who have had innumerable meters of penis up thier snatches know so little about sex and their own bodies. Most American chicks I have known have sussed out exactly what they like and are proficient with a pecker as well. Older Thai women can be as well, but they still don't seem to be the connoisseurs of sex most Western women are.
[QUOTE=Sirwilliam4;1411368]Just to present another point of view, I'll start by saying that I'm most likely one of the older contributors here so that may help explain my views. In my experience over at least ten trips to BKK, Pattaya, and other locations my absolutely best experiences have been with older women. Several others in their late 30s and 40s have been delightful. With the younger ones. By that I mean under 25. I find it to be a hit or miss proposition, more often "miss". In general, they are just "doing a job" and there seems to be no connection. The older ones seem to genuinely enjoy the connection, which makes the entire experience so very much better.[/QUOTE]Man what are you talking about. I have this new chick that I met in the disco and she is 40 (same as me) and she rocked my fucking world. What I did was got her number and told her I would call her later. But that night I ended up going with some other chick who obviously wasn't worth remembering because I have the slightest idea who it was now. So I called her the next day and she came over about 8pm. When she came in I had the balcony door open. I was in my room drinking, but she took her clothes off and wanted to get straight down to business. When I tried to close the door she asked me why I was closing it. And talk about can take a good ass-pounding. She must have left about 9 the next morning. I almost cried when she went home. 1000 baht. She definitely won a permanent spot on my team.
Then there is my 50 year old school teacher. She comes over with those school teacher glasses all quiet and shy, but when she gets into the bed she is a beast. It appears most people on this board want to fuck the girl who is the youngest and the thinnest. Damn what kind of service they will get. What's the sense of having a Ferrari if it has a Fiat engine and it is going to cause you a lot of problems?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1411486]It appears most people on this board want to fuck the girl who is the youngest and the thinnest. Damn what kind of service they will get. What's the sense of having a Ferrari if it has a Fiat engine and it is going to cause you a lot of problems?[/QUOTE]Ain't it the truth. Must be dealing with middle school frustrations.
Keep in mind I live a little way out the P4P scene.
Fun factor off the charts, despite enormous negatives on paper below.
1. No blowjob.
2. Covered Sex.
3. 34 Y.O. psycho with tattoos.
To start, was sad and depressed over a deteriorating relationship and finally ready to make it rain bahts on a Thai hottie to cope but we all know that never really helps. Before a night of P4P, I make an all out mission to find another one, which is what I always do whenever I lose or have a fall out with a great girl.
Mission accomplished.
Smokkkking hot solid english speaking honey at my apartment at 8:15.
I'm in my cheesy t shirt. She is dressed to the nines dripping in jewelry.
Pretty bad girl face. Tongue Ring. Built and looks like Nicki Minaj. On a thai chick I kid you not. I later find out she kind of has a full body tattoo suit. On a Thai chick I kid you not. Now tattoos on American chicks are gross but Thai tattoos can be very sexy and hers were just right, plus it was first time I was with a girl that had tattoos everywhereee and to my delight it was hot. She used to work in tattoo shop.
The whole night was love / hate and started off horribly and almost lost her early several times. First, I make her wait a little too long in the "courtyard" My plan was to walk up hill and get a beer at night market bar near here. Get there and it is closed. Girl wants to drink and I can't think of where to go on the spot. Can't catch a taxi. Girl is very booshie (urban dictionary bro) and pissed off about many of things. I'm used to hot girls being pissed and thought I might be below her expectations. Finally get the girl playful and giggling and take BTS to Silom 25+25 (50 damage). No to 21 terminal. Hotel bars green light pops up but could get expensive. Stop in the Argentenian steakhouse next door and still don't really feel like fucking with those prices. Cabbagaes & Condoms green light pops up and make it over there. She likes it a lot and I make out real good. I already had dinner and chick just orders fried rice. We have Heinekens that are very surprisingly cheap despite pricey food. Very little damage (280). End of the night is quiet and she is taking too long in the Cabbages & Condom bathroom. I make bold move and go in the women's bathroom to try to kiss her and hopefully fuck her in a stall. She is mortified."Can't do that in Thailand" bla bla bla. Also very mad they took her Heineken away bla bla bla. Unpleasant walk out the restaurant and my attempts at drinking in my room were shot down. Bipolar girl is angry again and about to call it a night again and throws out something like we can have sex for money. Ohhhhhhhhhh it's like to that now. Welcome to Thailand motherfucker. Girl is hottt and I really want to fuck her and just quickly agree when she says 2000 baht all night. Now I could've probably got that down but that is far from sexy and I think I may be able negotiate with my dick and charm on this one which is exactly what I wound up doing later.
Girl is hottt, so I'm popping male enhancement like crazy. Before we meet I pop a pill. In restaurant bathroom and another and 2 more in room later. 400 mg (new record) and no heart attack. Get her Heinekens at 7-11 (250 damage). Back to room, still takes work to fuck her but when I do, I fuck her silly. Make her cum 4 times and finally bust on her. Some good kissing, little missionary & cowgirl, followed by lots and lots and lots of doggie on a big, beautiful tatted up ass. Oral should be mandatory but I'm just going to let it slide this time and having fun. Her bad attitude is erased. Starts talking like a baby. Thinks I'm cute. Fall asleep in her arms. I wake up in a few hours and she is still up, very cranky she did not sleep and sniffling. She looks very tired and not up for the morning sex (dammit!) I'm awake and don't want her falling asleep now so try to wrap it up. She asks for money and says next time free (ughhhhhhh?) I say no blowjob, no morning sex in smoothest way possible but way differently. Then she just asks for taxi money. Even though the service was not great, I enjoyed the banter and gave her 1000 baht and I did agree to 2000 after all. At worst, I don't see her again and 1580 damage on a great night. At best many of under 500 baht (food / drink) potentially free long times with a hottie in the future and think that I will at least once. She is also considering an apartment in my area in the future which would also be a dream.
Innocent girls, model girls, milfs, spinners all great but I just love that sexy bad girl, pin up look. My favorite. Had that look from a gangsta Mexicana chick in South Texas and a Dominicana in Curacao. Great fucking look. Really gets me going.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1411512]"Can't do that in Thailand" bla bla bla.[/QUOTE]Got the same from a past GF / Long Term Rental / Whatever people wish to call the arrangement, on an overnight sleeper train up to Bangkok from Surrathani years ago. Making notes of her concerns and then making a few arrangements such as ensuring that the curtain wouldn't be blown open by the ceiling fan in mid plunge, I then proceeded to bust a load in her snatch on the lower bunk not long after the beds had been made up and people closed their curtains. Being jolted around by the motion of the train added a bit of variety, too. No exactly classy and sophisticated I know, but my saddle bags were wailing to unload and I couldn't wait till Bangkok.
True Story from 4 years ago: Sorry it's long overdue but I wasn't on this forum, I was using Pattaya Addicts and have since switched to ISG as I've expanded my travels beyond Thailand and also had issues becoming a trusted member with PA.
Spent about 3 months in Thailand, mostly in Bangkok, and always bragged I could spot a lady boy and never be fooled because regardless of surgery, even shaved adam's apple, you can tell a dude by the shape of the face.
Well, towards the end of the stay in Thailand, I was in Nana Plaza at one of the go go bars filled with girls, not lady boys. My my experiences mongering in SE Asia to date, my best have always been with girls, whether FL or bar girls or go go bar girls, who come on to you. My friend would always choose the hottest chick in the place and would always complain the next day about service whereas I would get my brains fcked out because I'd take the girl home that would approach me and shared some chemistry with. As I'm sitting there in a pretty dark go go bar in Nana Plaza, one of the "girls" comes straight to me, jumps in my lamp and starts making really vulgur sounds and talking dirty to me. At first I'm thinking, ok here we go, this is a winner, she's going to be a champion in the sack, not a cold fish. Then I'm thinking, despite the tits, pretty face, and tight little body, this kinda looks like a lady boy. So she's trying to get me to BF her. The go go bar is rotating sets of of girls on stage, and they are only wearing g strings, so tell her that I want to watch her dance first and ask her when she is going on stage (so I check to see if she's got a package or not). She goes on stage with the next round, and everything looks kosher. I'm relieved and BF, and just broke my one and only rule, when in doubt, don't take out. We leave, head get a cab back to my hotel and pretty much when the cab door closes and I'm seeing her in the light outside the club, sure she's a lady boy, if for no other reason that I no longer find her attractive at all, and want nothing to do with her. But I don't know what to do at this point except find out for sure. We get to my hotel room, she tries to go for my dick, I stop her and I'm like take off your clothes. She won't take off anything below the waste. I insist and she's not having it saying she's shy. Bull shit, I've already banged dozens of girls in Thailand and SE Asia, even the shy ones will get naked and lay back and take it missionary like a cold fish. So I just straight up say Thank you, I'm not interested, here's your money (we agreed on like 1500 baht I think but it was awhile ago) , just go. She took the money and was like "You want me to leave?" and seemed really surprised. I had to confirm several times and she (he) left with my money. I know other board members would have kicked her (him) out with no $$, but honestly, I was freaked out enough that it was worth paying him to leave, and have the whole thing over with. When she left I felt like I dodged a bullet (no blowjob, no handjob, I can say I've never hooked up with a dude). I headed straight to Pattaya and it took me several nights before I wasn't second guessing any of my decisions again. If you don't want to hook up with a lady boy, its easy, just stick to my rule: If there is any doubt, find someone else, it's Thailand, you can't throw a rock without hitting some young thai girl that wants to fck you for $$.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1410882]Theres a reason why well rounded rich people are not coming here to retire in droves.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately they are. The 50km of coast from Cha-Am to Hua Hin to Pranburi is packed stiff with them, mainly northern Europeans. That's probably the biggest area now but you see the same thing all around Pattaya, Chiangmai, and even (unbelievably) Udon Thani.
[QUOTE=Chris Peterson; 1411812]True Story from 4 years ago: Sorry it's long overdue but I wasn't on this forum, I was using Pattaya Addicts and have since switched to ISG as I've expanded my travels beyond Thailand and also had issues becoming a trusted member with PA.
Spent about 3 months in Thailand, mostly in Bangkok, and always bragged I could spot a lady boy and never be fooled because regardless of surgery, even shaved adam's apple, you can tell a dude by the shape of the face.
Well, towards the end of the stay in Thailand, I was in Nana Plaza at one of the go go bars filled with girls, not lady boys. My my experiences mongering in SE Asia to date, my best have always been with girls, whether FL or bar girls or go go bar girls, who come on to you. My friend would always choose the hottest chick in the place and would always complain the next day about service whereas I would get my brains fcked out because I'd take the girl home that would approach me and shared some chemistry with. As I'm sitting there in a pretty dark go go bar in Nana Plaza, one of the "girls" comes straight to me, jumps in my lamp and starts making really vulgur sounds and talking dirty to me. At first I'm thinking, ok here we go, this is a winner, she's going to be a champion in the sack, not a cold fish. Then I'm thinking, despite the tits, pretty face, and tight little body, this kinda looks like a lady boy. So she's trying to get me to BF her. The go go bar is rotating sets of of girls on stage, and they are only wearing g strings, so tell her that I want to watch her dance first and ask her when she is going on stage (so I check to see if she's got a package or not). She goes on stage with the next round, and everything looks kosher. I'm relieved and BF, and just broke my one and only rule, when in doubt, don't take out. We leave, head get a cab back to my hotel and pretty much when the cab door closes and I'm seeing her in the light outside the club, sure she's a lady boy, if for no other reason that I no longer find her attractive at all, and want nothing to do with her. But I don't know what to do at this point except find out for sure. We get to my hotel room, she tries to go for my dick, I stop her and I'm like take off your clothes. She won't take off anything below the waste. I insist and she's not having it saying she's shy. Bull shit, I've already banged dozens of girls in Thailand and SE Asia, even the shy ones will get naked and lay back and take it missionary like a cold fish. So I just straight up say Thank you, I'm not interested, here's your money (we agreed on like 1500 baht I think but it was awhile ago) , just go. She took the money and was like "You want me to leave?" and seemed really surprised. I had to confirm several times and she (he) left with my money. I know other board members would have kicked her (him) out with no $$, but honestly, I was freaked out enough that it was worth paying him to leave, and have the whole thing over with. When she left I felt like I dodged a bullet (no blowjob, no handjob, I can say I've never hooked up with a dude). I headed straight to Pattaya and it took me several nights before I wasn't second guessing any of my decisions again. If you don't want to hook up with a lady boy, its easy, just stick to my rule: If there is any doubt, find someone else, it's Thailand, you can't throw a rock without hitting some young thai girl that wants to fck you for $$.[/QUOTE]It seems to me like you threw caution to the wind and barfined her (him) , hoping she was actually a girl. Next time just ask them, most will fess up. Having said that, it was a noble gesture of you to pay the fee for nothing, at the very least you should have gotten a BJ out of it, I hear they give the best head hahhaha.
Just kidding.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1411903]It seems to me like you threw caution to the wind and barfined her (him) , hoping she was actually a girl. Next time just ask them, most will fess up. Having said that, it was a noble gesture of you to pay the fee for nothing, at the very least you should have gotten a BJ out of it, I hear they give the best head hahhaha.
Just kidding.[/QUOTE]Exactly right-and if you ask them if they are or are not and the deny.
Then you just send them back without payment just because they tried to trick you.
2 years ago, i posted a newbie guide on this same forum, and as i've had way more experiences in bkk since, i thought i would update it.
introduction 1: i'm a 35-year-old european guy, who has been travelling to bkk for short time stays in the last 3 years, and is now living in the los. i read more than ipost, but i read a lot (i'm on the forum everyday). when i posted my previous 'guide', it was the result of a few short stays in the city, and i made some mistakes. giotto, in particular, was nice enough to correct them.
introduction 2: this guide is intended for newbies only. i know that there's much more to experience in bkk than what i'm going to recommend. i know that it's possible to top some (many?) of my recommendations. my intention only is to give some pointers to someone who's in bkk for a few days and for the first time. of course, if you get to enjoy the city for a longer amount of time, you'll have a chance to discover other and probably better options.
introduction 3: i'm sorry in advance for the writing quality of what is about to follow, as english is not my native language.
ok, so here we go.
general tips
1. you can (and should) get anywhere using the skytrain (bts) : rush hour in bkk (7am until. 9pm!) is so bad that you will want to avoid being stuck in traffic. when looking for a hotel, definitely choose one that's walking distance to the bts, in the 'prime sukumvit' area. that's chitlom until ekamai (type bangkok bts map on google if you don't know what i'm talking about). the heart of the mongering action is going to be at nana, asoke and phrom pong. 80% of the places you heard about or read about on this forum are walking distance to one of theses bts stations.
2. look for online maps: it's very easy to get lost in bkk. and at the same time, most massage / go go places are very close to one another. again, type the search in google, it'll help you out a lot.
3. learn how the street names work: if you follow rule number 1, you will stay close to sukumvit. that's a huge bvd dividing the city in two. north of it are odd numbers. south of it are even numbers. so if you're trying to get to sukumvit soi 7 (soi = street) , you're going to want to go to a street north of the bvd and perpendicular to it.
4. choose your hotel: there are hundreds of hotels in that area. you can find a hotel for less than 1000 bath (25 euros) a night to over 6000 baths (150 euros) a night. i used to stay at the phachara suites, which is bynana bts, and is a service apartment hotel with prices going from 2000 bath to 3200 baths.
mongering tips.
1. go go bars: go go bars are places that are open from 7pm to 2am where 10 to 80 girls dance on stage. entrance is free but you're expected to get a 70 (happy hour).150 baths drink (depending on the place and the time you go). it's a great way to start if you're a newbie in bkk for many reasons: axxxxxx / time: you can order a drink, sit back and relax, no one is going to be very pushy bxxxxxx / looks: if you've been to 3 go go bars, you've seen about 100 thai girls, and you can have a sense of what thai hookers look like, and what particular style does if for you. this will be helpful later on when you're picking up a girl in a massage place, because you will know the hotness level you can expect and be able to make the right choice of girl with less time to make it cxxxxxx / choice: the go go bars are in 3 separate areas in the city (see below) but in each area, there at 12 to 30 bars. don't spend an hour in one bar. just go from one to the other, have a drink in each one, and leave when your beer's empty. only stay if you really like a girl that's in the particular bar you're in dxxxxx / mood: i found it a good way to get the mood of the city, chatting with tourists, mamasans, and random girls during their dancing breaks (who by the way are used to having a guy flirt with them for 15mn and leave it there, so take your time!)
once you did find your dream girl, tell the mamasan (you will know who) , she will have the girl sit with you for a chat. you pay a ladydrink (150 bath) , and have some time to decide if you want to go for her or send her back dancing. if you choose to 'take her', you have to pay the barfine (600 bath) and then you have two options. spend 1 hour with her in a room nearby (usually right above the bar) or take her out for part of or the entire night. in addition to the barfine. 1 hour will cost 300 bath for the room (if you prefer not to take her to your hotel) + about 2000 bath for the girl. that's one pop. long time will cost from 3000 to 4000 bath and you can keep the girl until the next morning around noon. multiple pops aloud. be aware that prices can be more expensive if you look like an unexperienced tourist, that what i'm stating is the maximum you should be willing to pay.
there are 3 places with go go bars in bkk, and each place has many of them.
a. patpong (not in the prime sukumvit are bts sala deng) : 2 parallel streets with a night bazaar in the middle of them and bars, go go bars and ping pong shows (sexual show: go there once if it sounds fun to you, but not worth spending more than 45mn in there). patpong is the historical sexual center, thus looks old and run down. everyone looks sad, girls dance in bikini tops and shorts, i found it to be a bit depressing. if you have a chance to go to nana or soy cowboy, i wouldn't even bother going to patpong. if you do, only go to bada bing and pink panther.
b. soy cowboy: 1 street full of go go bars. about 20 different bars. 50% dance in bikini top and bottom. 30% topless and 20% fully naked. depends on the bar rather than on the girl, so take a quick look inside and leave if what you see is not your thing. best bars imo: baccara (probably the most famous go go in bkk 2 level with a glass floor allowing you to watch under the girl's skirt if you're on ground level a japanese favourite) , tillac and sharks.
c. nana square:. more bars than any other place (50% bikini. 25% topless. 25% fully nude. best bars imo: rainbow 4 (the biggest place, the 1st one to be crowed, but not my personal favourite) , spankys (not the best looking girls, but fun girls spank each other with some sort of plastic tube that doesn't hurt but that makes a hell of a noise. you can also spank them yourself, and even buy the tube. there's also a shower in the bar with 2-3 girls showering together and soaping each other up) , billboard (3 to 6 girls naked taking a batch in a huge jacuzzi with 20+ hot girls dancing on stage) and angel witch (hard rock music and lots of sexual shows).
watch out for the ladyboy go go bars. the information is somewhere on the web (can't recall where) but it's actually quite easy not to be mistaken: if a girl you pass by is very tall and very aggressive with you, groping you and stuff, it's probably a boy. if a go go bar is very empty and the girls wear shorts, just leave.
2. massage places.
a sex : i'll make it easy for you: the most popular ones are cherry, mango and ez (again, imo). they are all right at phrom pong bts, and all have websites. make your selection online, call ahead if you want and go for it. you will pay from 2000 to 3000 bath all inclusive, depending on what you ask for, how long you want to girl for and if it's an incall or an outcall.
b soapie: you have to try a soapie at least once in your life. they are a few (but not a lot) places offering soapie. the most famous one and to my knowledge the only one in the prime sukumvit area is annies. there's a dedicated thread on the forum just for that place. 2500 all inclusive for 90mn. bts nana. it's a bit run down, some people don't like it, but just read the thread and decide if it's your thing.
c- blow jobs : 3 places in the prime sukumvit area: dr bj (bts nana, soi 7/1) , [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] (bts nana, soi 8) , lollipop (bts asoke or nana, soi 10).800 bath for a blowjob. the girls are way less attractive than in any place mentioned before (and most of them a quite ugly) , but if they were better looking, they would do more than just give blowjobs all day. some of them are quite good at it, some of them are just plain mechanical. it's a hit or miss. i find it to be a good place to start with when you go out, so that you're not fully loaded and thus more patient in choosing the right girl in places where you will pay and expect more.
d freelancers: you will find a lot in the areas mentioned above. it'll cost you from 1000 bath to 3000 baths, but people who live here don't usually pay more than 2000 bath. you can find them everywhere. in case you want to find them in clubs, go to soi 11 (nana bts) , a street with 5 clubs and 20+ bars. climax is an all freelance place (a lot of go go girls who didn't find a farang before 2am go there) , bash is the next best thing for mongering only. you will find better looking but more expensive freelancers at levels, bed superclub and q bar (all in the same street) that welcome a majority of expacts. you can also just party and have a good time.
3. everything else!
there are so many areas and options i did not mention, but again, it's a guide intended to newbies with no idea about the city and very little time to monger. please feel free to correct me or to add anything to this post. i'm sure long time mongers will have different opinions. i'm only posting this because i would have loved to find something like this when i first came to bkk i hope it'll help some people out. pm me if you want to hang out or if you want a private tour of the action. i'm usually free and mongering on mondays and wednesdays.
enjoy!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1410677]Why would anyone move to a place just for the P4P?[/QUOTE]The lure of easy inexpensive sex is a powerful drug. But it won't sustain you for many years. You have to develop other interests. I live in Bangkok for most of the year and have done so for about 5 years now. I know a lot of guys who have been burnt out by the sex and then just sort of go into a deep funk because they never thought they would get tired of it. That is Fool's Gold. Almost everybody gets tired of it after a while if taken in large doses. Like most things in life you need balance. My goal as a retiree was as much as possible to recreate the things I liked back home. Ie movies, reading, friends, music, exercising. But add to that occasional sex, a night out hitting the bars and some traveling around Asia. So far so good. I really enjoy my life in Bangkok. That may end some day but more likely than not it will just be aging that may change everything. I am back home now visiting family and I see lots of guys around my age, no longer working, hanging around their home without much to do, never getting laid. And I wonder why anyone would want to live anywhere else but Thailand.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1412142]The lure of easy inexpensive sex is a powerful drug. But it won't sustain you for many years. You have to develop other interests. I live in Bangkok for most of the year and have done so for about 5 years now. I know a lot of guys who have been burnt out by the sex and then just sort of go into a deep funk because they never thought they would get tired of it. That is Fool's Gold. Almost everybody gets tired of it after a while if taken in large doses. Like most things in life you need balance. My goal as a retiree was as much as possible to recreate the things I liked back home. Ie movies, reading, friends, music, exercising. But add to that occasional sex, a night out hitting the bars and some traveling around Asia. So far so good. I really enjoy my life in Bangkok. That may end some day but more likely than not it will just be aging that may change everything. I am back home now visiting family and I see lots of guys around my age, no longer working, hanging around their home without much to do, never getting laid. And I wonder why anyone would want to live anywhere else but Thailand.[/QUOTE]Great comments and I totally agree.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1412142]The lure of easy inexpensive sex is a powerful drug. So far so good. I really enjoy my life in Bangkok. . And I wonder why anyone would want to live anywhere else but Thailand.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your view from Bangkok.
Would you mind sharing more about what you enjoy doing in Bangkok and the LOS, outside of enjoying the ladies?
I'm looking for a pleasant place to spend 3 years or more and Bangkok / LOS is one possibility I'd like to know more about.
IamJohnGalt
[QUOTE=Romannico; 1412113]2 years ago, I posted a newbie guide on this same forum, and as I've had way more experiences in BKK since, I thought I would update it.
Introduction 1: I'm a 35-year-old European guy, who has been travelling to BKK for short time stays...[/QUOTE]This is great information I will be making my first trip to BKK in June and this is the sort of information I need.
Question my flight will not arrive until 1:10 am in the morning and I am staying at a hotel that is in Nana, as a first timer there where would I be able to find a girl for boom boom that late at night. Also where will be the best place for me to exchange my money at that time of night. Will there still be taxis at the airport at that time of night.
Thanks,
Chris
[QUOTE=Betong;1411865]Unfortunately they are. The 50km of coast from Cha-Am to Hua Hin to Pranburi is packed stiff with them, mainly northern Europeans. That's probably the biggest area now but you see the same thing all around Pattaya, Chiangmai, and even (unbelievably) Udon Thani.[/QUOTE]What's wrong with affluent, well-rounded people retiring in Thailand? Hua Hin is on my short list of retirement locations, or at least a second retirement home.
Last night was too wild and would not expect anyone to believe it.
Back to square 1. My 2 recent freebies are cut because they are not attractive. My girlfriend who I came to Bangkok for (knew I had a good city and p4p to fall back on) is away with customer on island for 4 days and caught her in lies. Very hurtful and her stock drops a lot. Hottie last night is really not about getting to know me better.
Thought I wouldn't all year, but jerk off for the first time in Thailand and just going to take it easy for the day, when by luck I get a really sex receptionist girl at my apartment 9:45. Cold as ice. Not 1 smile but wants to go right to room. Is texting a lot and asks me if I have good job.
Awkward attempt into sex. Girl does not want to kiss, no blow job, but start to fuck her. Pussy pierced, she is a freak but "normal girl" wants me to cum soon? Flip it over and [url]wowwww[/url] Maybe the best ass in Asia. 1 in a 30 million ass. I am in heaven. Destroying it. She is gushing and taking all I can give and wants more but also to finish. Never fucked so vigorously and must have lost 3 pounds in the 20 minutes we fucked when out the blue my girlfriend returns unannounced with food in hand that she always brings me. Like a buffoon I forgot to lock my door. Although she would've heard the moaning anyway, she opens door and sees the act. All 3 of us with deer in headlights face. Girlfriend leaves and I'm not going to catch her. Super ass acts mad that I have girlfriend but wanted to end sex anyway. I don't get to finish and she walks out the door. Talk about huge disappointment. At least she didn't ask me for money.
I run / walk fast up street in hopes of seeing girlfriend and go to night market for food or maybe see girlfriend. Order sushi to go when I turn around and the girl I was just fucking 5 minutes ago is actually at table with 2 farang. That's why she was rushing and texting. She made a call in my room as she left. Think the playgirl, gold diggers hunts farang guys at places like Sukhumvit 11 and probably has played many. She mentioned she has a condo near me but also before that she lived in a different part of Bangkok before? She might get paid. The girl leaves those guys too and I chase after her but she does not want anything to do with me? I walk home with blue balls and a great girl who I will probably lose, even though she caught me cheating twice before, including bloody sheets at The Dawin hotel. This time is different. Burning through girls and will probably be spending many of days jerking off soon in budget mode unless I can keep it up. Super ass I pounded for free was so good, I'm going to try and get on some type of p4p arrangement with it but don't even think she will do that. Just a strange, viciously ice cold chick. But I will never forget that super Asian ass. Things are bad with the girlfriend (spent over 200 hours with her). Doubt she will meet me today and I am going to be dumb and go to her gogo bar tonight. Should be interesting. Stay tuned.
Romannico:
What kind of place is this new late night club like? Your previous comment on BASH was cryptic and left me puzzled as to what kind of place it is. Is it filled with only freelancers, or, is it totally opposite, with no freelancers?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1412239]Come on guys patronize the businesses the DR BJ's soi are in.
Seems a few of them are going out of business![/QUOTE] I made a trip to one of the bars there during the day after doing a lot of walking around I hit Subway but needed a place to drink a quick brewskie other than having to drink at Subway lol.. No customers there at the time and the lady said business was bad, not many customers. I asked if it was like this only at night, but she said it was like this at night too. Hope they survive, they seemed like good people, but there didn't seem to a compelling reason to go there again
[QUOTE=Rodwint2; 1412270]Romannico:
What kind of place is this new late night club like? Your previous comment on BASH was cryptic and left me puzzled as to what kind of place it is. Is it filled with only freelancers, or, is it totally opposite, with no freelancers?[/QUOTE]Bash is with Climax the only club on soi 11 that stays open after 3am. Bed Superclub, Qbar and Levels all close at 3. 30 at the latest.
As a result, a lot of expats and tourists (not only sex tourists) will go to Bash late if they want to keep partying. However. 90% of the girls at Bash are thai, and IMO freelancers.
The club being a year old or so, it's in much better shape than Climax. I would say that it's like Climax, but classier. And more expensive (400 bath entry fee that gets you 2 drinks)
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1412210]This is great information I will be making my first trip to BKK in June and this is the sort of information I need.
Question my flight will not arrive until 1:10 am in the morning and I am staying at a hotel that is in Nana, as a first timer there where would I be able to find a girl for boom boom that late at night. Also where will be the best place for me to exchange my money at that time of night. Will there still be taxis at the airport at that time of night.
Thanks,
Chris[/QUOTE]You will have not trouble finding a cab at the airport. It'll take you about 60mn to get out of the airport at that time (luggage, customs.) and a 20 to 30mn drive to your hotel. This means that you will probably be ready to score around 3am. If you get to the city during the weekend, you will have more options than if it's a weekday (lots of places stay open later during the weekend).
Staying in the Nana area, I would recommend you give soi 11 and soi 4 a try.
Soi 11: Climax and Bash will probably still be open, and packed with freelancers (hundreds!). You'll also run into freelancers on the way there.
Soi 4: NEP (Nana Entertainement Plaza with all the go go bars) will be closed, but Hillary 4 will probably still be open. It's a bar with live music, pool and only freelancers. Lots of freelancers to be found directly on the street as well (watch out for LB!)
As for money, just change what you need for the 1st night directly at the airport. During the day, you can change money everywhere in BKK.
[QUOTE=Chris Long;1412210]Question my flight will not arrive until 1:10 am in the morning and I am staying at a hotel that is in Nana, as a first timer there where would I be able to find a girl for boom boom that late at night.[/QUOTE]Parking lot of the Nana Hotel.
[QUOTE=Chris Long;1412210]Also where will be the best place for me to exchange my money at that time of night.[/QUOTE]Front desk of the Nana Hotel, but of course you would have had to pay the taxi already so you might want to change some money at the airport.
[QUOTE=Chris Long;1412210]Will there still be taxis at the airport at that time of night.[/QUOTE]There are always taxis at the airport. Just go to the top floor departures, walk outside, then walk across to the median and pick one. Make them run the meter. You will have to pay the tolls. Total should be about 300 baht.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1412238]In 1 year the yen declined 25. Thats a lot. It took USA dollar 10 years to fall that much to where it is today.
It surely has affected how I spend my money on the girls. I don't spend as much as I used to. LOL. I got the money but its the value thing all over again. Money does matter.
I wonder if the girls who specialize in ippuns will be affected? They have to be, I wonder if to the point where some girls will open their vaginas to the farang. LOL.[/QUOTE]True that. I am sure the falling yen will effect the Japanese. Of course none of us will have any luck trying to explain this to the gals."Sorry honey, prices are down, pay attention to the exchange rate!" LOL
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1412142]The lure of easy inexpensive sex is a powerful drug. But it won't sustain you for many years. You have to develop other interests. I live in Bangkok for most of the year and have done so for about 5 years now. I know a lot of guys who have been burnt out by the sex and then just sort of go into a deep funk because they never thought they would get tired of it. That is Fool's Gold. Almost everybody gets tired of it after a while if taken in large doses. Like most things in life you need balance. My goal as a retiree was as much as possible to recreate the things I liked back home. Ie movies, reading, friends, music, exercising. But add to that occasional sex, a night out hitting the bars and some traveling around Asia. So far so good. I really enjoy my life in Bangkok. That may end some day but more likely than not it will just be aging that may change everything. I am back home now visiting family and I see lots of guys around my age, no longer working, hanging around their home without much to do, never getting laid. And I wonder why anyone would want to live anywhere else but Thailand.[/QUOTE]Good advise. After years of living in South America I arrived in BKK five months ago. I've knocked around a bit, tasted Chiang Mai and Pattaya (as well as Hanoi). Tomorrow I sign a year's lease in BKK. I can't think of many reasons not to.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1412384]I am sure the falling yen will effect the Japanese. Of course none of us will have any luck trying to explain this to the gals."Sorry honey, prices are down, pay attention to the exchange rate!" LOL[/QUOTE]Yes, but less demand for their services will affect the girls behavior towards the shrinking pool of existing customers. It should get better. I just spent 4 weeks in LOS as part of a 6 week tour through South East Asia. I found the girls were more friendly and outgoing than I can remember in the last 7 or 8 years. Prices are not down, but If you have the money, now is a great time to do Thailand and the Philippines. Take my word for it. I will post a trip report as soon as I can get my shit together.
On my last trip to Thailand before this one in late October 2012, 2980 bht = $100.
When I started my trip on Feb 22 2013, 2940 bht = $100.
By the time I left Thailand on April 13 2013, 2880 bht = $100.
[quote=harold444; 1412239]come on guys patronize the businesses the dr bj's soi are in.
seems a few of them are going out of business![/quote]interesting soi but it doesn't do much for me. dr. bj seems a nice fella and i'd like to help out, but his girls just aren't up to snuff looks wise. and, i'm not picky. i hit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and som's place regularly. the looks talent in those two places can be hit and miss, but there are some diamonds in the rough in both places. som's place, in particular, runs hot and cold, but i like the place anyway.
i honestly think dr. bj's soi is just too "open and bright". [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, lollipops and som's haven are more secluded, and inviting. maybe that's just me, but i doubt if i'm alone on that score.
Here is a list.
Anyone know of others?
[url]http://www.sukhumvit-entertainment.com/bangkok-bars/bj-bars/[/url]
[quote=romannico; 1412345]bash is with climax the only club on soi 11 that stays open after 3am. bed superclub, qbar and levels all close at 3. 30 at the latest.
as a result, a lot of expats and tourists (not only sex tourists) will go to bash late if they want to keep partying. however. 90% of the girls at bash are thai, and imo freelancers.
the club being a year old or so, it's in much better shape than climax. i would say that it's like climax, but classier. and more expensive (400 bath entry fee that gets you 2 drinks) [/quote][quote=romannico; 1412113]2 years ago, i posted a newbie guide on this same forum, and as i've had way more experiences in bkk since, i thought i would update it.
introduction 1: i'm a 35-year-old european guy, who has been travelling to bkk for short time stays in the last 3 years, and is now living in the los. i read more than ipost, but i read a lot (i'm on the forum everyday). when i posted my previous 'guide', it was the result of a few short stays in the city, and i made some mistakes. giotto, in particular, was nice enough to correct them.
introduction 2: this guide is intended for newbies only. i know that there's much more to experience in bkk than what i'm going to recommend. i know that it's possible to top some (many?) of my recommendations. my intention only is to give some pointers to someone who's in bkk for a few days and for the first time. of course, if you get to enjoy the city for a longer amount of time, you'll have a chance to discover other and probably better options.
introduction 3: i'm sorry in advance for the writing quality of what is about to follow, as english is not my native language.
ok, so here we go.
general tips
1. you can (and should) get anywhere using the skytrain (bts) : rush hour in bkk (7am until. 9pm!) is so bad that you will want to avoid being stuck in traffic. when looking for a hotel, definitely choose one that's walking distance to the bts, in the 'prime sukumvit' area. that's chitlom until ekamai (type bangkok bts map on google if you don't know what i'm talking about). the heart of the mongering action is going to be at nana, asoke and phrom pong. 80% of the places you heard about or read about on this forum are walking distance to one of theses bts stations.
2. look for online maps: it's very easy to get lost in bkk. and at the same time, most massage / go go places are very close to one another. again, type the search in google, it'll help you out a lot.
3. learn how the street names work: if you follow rule number 1, you will stay close to sukumvit. that's a huge bvd dividing the city in two. north of it are odd numbers. south of it are even numbers. so if you're trying to get to sukumvit soi 7 (soi = street) , you're going to want to go to a street north of the bvd and perpendicular to it.
4. choose your hotel: there are hundreds of hotels in that area. you can find a hotel for less than 1000 bath (25 euros) a night to over 6000 baths (150 euros) a night. i used to stay at the phachara suites, which is bynana bts, and is a service apartment hotel with prices going from 2000 bath to 3200 baths.
mongering tips.
1. go go bars: go go bars are places that are open from 7pm to 2am where 10 to 80 girls dance on stage. entrance is free but you're expected to get a 70 (happy hour).150 baths drink (depending on the place and the time you go). it's a great way to start if you're a newbie in bkk for many reasons: axxxxxx / time: you can order a drink, sit back and relax, no one is going to be very pushy bxxxxxx / looks: if you've been to 3 go go bars, you've seen about 100 thai girls, and you can have a sense of what thai hookers look like, and what particular style does if for you. this will be helpful later on when you're picking up a girl in a massage place, because you will know the hotness level you can expect and be able to make the right choice of girl with less time to make it cxxxxxx / choice: the go go bars are in 3 separate areas in the city (see below) but in each area, there at 12 to 30 bars. don't spend an hour in one bar. just go from one to the other, have a drink in each one, and leave when your beer's empty. only stay if you really like a girl that's in the particular bar you're in dxxxxx / mood: i found it a good way to get the mood of the city, chatting with tourists, mamasans, and random girls during their dancing breaks (who by the way are used to having a guy flirt with them for 15mn and leave it there, so take your time!)
once you did find your dream girl, tell the mamasan (you will know who) , she will have the girl sit with you for a chat. you pay a ladydrink (150 bath) , and have some time to decide if you want to go for her or send her back dancing. if you choose to 'take her', you have to pay the barfine (600 bath) and then you have two options. spend 1 hour with her in a room nearby (usually right above the bar) or take her out for part of or the entire night. in addition to the barfine. 1 hour will cost 300 bath for the room (if you prefer not to take her to your hotel) + about 2000 bath for the girl. that's one pop. long time will cost from 3000 to 4000 bath and you can keep the girl until the next morning around noon. multiple pops aloud. be aware that prices can be more expensive if you look like an unexperienced tourist, that what i'm stating is the maximum you should be willing to pay.
there are 3 places with go go bars in bkk, and each place has many of them.
a. patpong (not in the prime sukumvit are bts sala deng) : 2 parallel streets with a night bazaar in the middle of them and bars, go go bars and ping pong shows (sexual show: go there once if it sounds fun to you, but not worth spending more than 45mn in there). patpong is the historical sexual center, thus looks old and run down. everyone looks sad, girls dance in bikini tops and shorts, i found it to be a bit depressing. if you have a chance to go to nana or soy cowboy, i wouldn't even bother going to patpong. if you do, only go to bada bing and pink panther.
b. soy cowboy: 1 street full of go go bars. about 20 different bars. 50% dance in bikini top and bottom. 30% topless and 20% fully naked. depends on the bar rather than on the girl, so take a quick look inside and leave if what you see is not your thing. best bars imo: baccara (probably the most famous go go in bkk 2 level with a glass floor allowing you to watch under the girl's skirt if you're on ground level a japanese favourite) , tillac and sharks.
c. nana square:. more bars than any other place (50% bikini. 25% topless. 25% fully nude. best bars imo: rainbow 4 (the biggest place, the 1st one to be crowed, but not my personal favourite) , spankys (not the best looking girls, but fun girls spank each other with some sort of plastic tube that doesn't hurt but that makes a hell of a noise. you can also spank them yourself, and even buy the tube. there's also a shower in the bar with 2-3 girls showering together and soaping each other up) , billboard (3 to 6 girls naked taking a batch in a huge jacuzzi with 20+ hot girls dancing on stage) and angel witch (hard rock music and lots of sexual shows).
watch out for the ladyboy go go bars. the information is somewhere on the web (can't recall where) but it's actually quite easy not to be mistaken: if a girl you pass by is very tall and very aggressive with you, groping you and stuff, it's probably a boy. if a go go bar is very empty and the girls wear shorts, just leave.
2. massage places.
a sex : i'll make it easy for you: the most popular ones are cherry, mango and ez (again, imo). they are all right at phrom pong bts, and all have websites. make your selection online, call ahead if you want and go for it. you will pay from 2000 to 3000 bath all inclusive, depending on what you ask for, how long you want to girl for and if it's an incall or an outcall.
b soapie: you have to try a soapie at least once in your life. they are a few (but not a lot) places offering soapie. the most famous one and to my knowledge the only one in the prime sukumvit area is annies. there's a dedicated thread on the forum just for that place. 2500 all inclusive for 90mn. bts nana. it's a bit run down, some people don't like it, but just read the thread and decide if it's your thing.
c- blow jobs : 3 places in the prime sukumvit area: dr bj (bts nana, soi 7/1) , [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] (bts nana, soi 8) , lollipop (bts asoke or nana, soi 10).800 bath for a blowjob. the girls are way less attractive than in any place mentioned before (and most of them a quite ugly) , but if they were better looking, they would do more than just give blowjobs all day. some of them are quite good at it, some of them are just plain mechanical. it's a hit or miss. i find it to be a good place to start with when you go out, so that you're not fully loaded and thus more patient in choosing the right girl in places where you will pay and expect more.
d freelancers: you will find a lot in the areas mentioned above. it'll cost you from 1000 bath to 3000 baths, but people who live here don't usually pay more than 2000 bath. you can find them everywhere. in case you want to find them in clubs, go to soi 11 (nana bts) , a street with 5 clubs and 20+ bars. climax is an all freelance place (a lot of go go girls who didn't find a farang before 2am go there) , bash is the next best thing for mongering only. you will find better looking but more expensive freelancers at levels, bed superclub and q bar (all in the same street) that welcome a majority of expacts. you can also just party and have a good time.
3. everything else!
there are so many areas and options i did not mention, but again, it's a guide intended to newbies with no idea about the city and very little time to monger. please feel free to correct me or to add anything to this post. i'm sure long time mongers will have different opinions. i'm only posting this because i would have loved to find something like this when i first came to bkk i hope it'll help some people out. pm me if you want to hang out or if you want a private tour of the action. i'm usually free and mongering on mondays and wednesdays.
enjoy![/quote]going to bkk for 3 days in 2 weeks time. this guide is a lifesaver. tq
[QUOTE=Rob135711;1412472]This guide is a lifesaver.[/QUOTE]I really feel for you.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1412239]Come on guys patronize the businesses the DR BJ's soi are in.
Seems a few of them are going out of business![/QUOTE]. And I thought it was an upcoming neighborhood.
[QUOTE=Romannico; 1412345]Bash is with Climax the only club on soi 11 that stays open after 3am. Bed Superclub, Qbar and Levels all close at 3. 30 at the latest.
As a result, a lot of expats and tourists (not only sex tourists) will go to Bash late if they want to keep partying. However. 90% of the girls at Bash are thai, and IMO freelancers.
The club being a year old or so, it's in much better shape than Climax. I would say that it's like Climax, but classier. And more expensive (400 bath entry fee that gets you 2 drinks) [/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification. Have you been in BASH around 10 or 11 pm? If you have, how does it compare to Climax?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1412239]Come on guys patronize the businesses the DR BJ's soi are in.
Seems a few of them are going out of business![/QUOTE]I will be happily spending some time and Baht on soi 7/1 in a few weeks. Headed to Eden for sure and most likely will pay multiple visits, will probably also check out Dr. BJ's if only to have a go at the lovely miss EE. Will probably end up getting a few massages on that soi also as it is convenient to my hotel location.
Which businesses are going under?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1412519]Thanks for the clarification. Have you been in BASH around 10 or 11 pm? If you have, how does it compare to Climax?[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that Bash does not open before midnight. I have never been there before 3am. Both clubs are almost across from each other on Soi 11 so it's easy to give both places a try.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1412404]Yes, but less demand for their services will affect the girls behavior towards the shrinking pool of existing customers. It should get better. I just spent 4 weeks in LOS as part of a 6 week tour through South East Asia. I found the girls were more friendly and outgoing than I can remember in the last 7 or 8 years. Prices are not down, but If you have the money, now is a great time to do Thailand and the Philippines. Take my word for it. I will post a trip report as soon as I can get my shit together.
On my last trip to Thailand before this one in late October 2012, 2980 bht = $100.
When I started my trip on Feb 22 2013, 2940 bht = $100.
By the time I left Thailand on April 13 2013, 2880 bht = $100.[/QUOTE]You might be right. I was in Thermae a couple of times over the last week and saw some girls who are usually exclusive to Asian dudes go with white guys.
[quote=catbird; 1412407]interesting soi but it doesn't do much for me. dr. bj seems a nice fella and i'd like to help out, but his girls just aren't up to snuff looks wise. and, i'm not picky. i hit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and som's place regularly. the looks talent in those two places can be hit and miss, but there are some diamonds in the rough in both places. som's place, in particular, runs hot and cold, but i like the place anyway.
i honestly think dr. bj's soi is just too "open and bright". [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, lollipops and som's haven are more secluded, and inviting. maybe that's just me, but i doubt if i'm alone on that score.[/quote]i think that applies to all bj bars. several times over the last month, i have been feeling a bit revved up and thought i would head by for a bj. rode my motorbike by som's, lollipop, and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s a few times, and to be honest just did not see one gal that i would pay (or not pay for that matter) for a bj. the gals were old, fat, and / or just plain unattractive. when i am getting blown i want to look down and think wow! ain't going to happen at those places.
[quote=goatscrot;1412607]i think that applies to all bj bars. several times over the last month, i have been feeling a bit revved up and thought i would head by for a bj. rode my motorbike by som's, lollipop, and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s a few times, and to be honest just did not see one gal that i would pay (or not pay for that matter) for a bj. the gals were old, fat, and / or just plain unattractive. when i am getting blown i want to look down and think wow! ain't going to happen at those places.[/quote]i have not seen it as that bad at those places. there were several girls in their 20's and not hags a few weeks ago.
but, it doesn't matter much to me if it is just bbbj. i am mostly looking at the top of their head.
i reported once before that one of the best bbbj i ever had was from a grandma who took out her false teeth before she blew.
no "toothy" action from that one.
[QUOTE=IamJohnGalt; 1412204]Thanks for your view from Bangkok.
Would you mind sharing more about what you enjoy doing in Bangkok and the LOS, outside of enjoying the ladies?
I'm looking for a pleasant place to spend 3 years or more and Bangkok / LOS is one possibility I'd like to know more about.
IamJohnGalt[/QUOTE]Basically what I am trying to say is that pretty much everything I can do back home, I can do here. You like keeping up with certain tv shows. Download them the day after they have shown and watch them on tv. Want to read a book. Download it from Amazon to a reading device it or go to the branches of Kinokuniya and browse for an hour to find something you like. Movies? These days they often open in Bangkok on the same day they do in the states. Bangkok also has movie festivals going on all the time. Music. Bangkok has a lot to offer from jazz to classical to rock. Last year or the year before I saw Clapton and the Eagles perform in concert in the same week. Like relaxing at the beach? Thailand has lots of those. Or trekking around. Go up north. Like to hang out in airconditioned malls and drink coffee and do some girl watching. Bangkok has the best malls and the prettiest girls in them of any place I have ever been. I took up pool a few years ago. More pool tables than you can count and always a willing girl to let you look good. Snooker is around as well. I am not a golfer but I know there are tons of golf courses around with young girl caddies. Grocery stores may not be what they are back home but they are good enough. Lots of restaurants with food from pretty much everywhere. Again maybe not the best but good enough. Friendships are easy to find here. Most of us came for the girls so there is always a common ground to begin with. I like keeping up with current events. Easy. There is CNN and Fox but you can also download a lot of newshows off the Internet + Daily and Colbert + the Herald Tribune is easy to find. If you need a break from Thailand just hop an airplane and you are in Hong Kong or Singapore or KL in a few hours. Life is easy here. They make sure it is for ex-pats.
But what makes Thailand special for me is what I don't have back home. Warm weather all year round, an apartment house that has a lovely pool and a gym, being able within five minutes to go out at night and hang out with a friend or by myself, feeling safe nearly 100% of the time no matter where I go or at what time. And I have been told that girls are also available and easily accessible. But all this isn't enough for a lot of guys because at the end of the day it isn't home and most people want the familiarity they grew up with, their people, their customs, their way of doing things. You won't find that in Thailand. But for now that is ok with me.
Internet is down, can't correspond with my girls and go check out the nana freelancer scene at 6 a. M. Really pitiful, reminded of the crackhead pussy in atlantic city, new jersey. I pick up the closest thing resembling a girl using a freelancer negotiation tip. Listen up fellas. After your low ball price is rejected, start talking to the nearest freelancer. I am a 100% where they come back and accept yours, someone probably know better then me but I am guessing it's like turf / business war between the girls and they want to eat the other ones lunch? So 500 baht short time in BKK. It was good for the hardcore novelty that a lot of girls won't do I guess, bb gagging and deepthroat, wrapped (by choice) ass to mouth but really the last place in Thailand I want to pay for pussy, maybe a different hour when the selection is better. By the way, I am sure every guy here has banged this thing, tattooed girl stays in 600 baht / night room near soi 4 pharmacy. I look it as paying 500 for her shower and my dick was a free gift for her.
Get my eggs benedict while I'm in the area (not around me)
Walk some to my pharmacy where the sideagra is 40% below the others. I offer to buy her entire stock for 10% more discount and I do LOL. A year's worth and she says see you next year. I say you next week, laugh and leave hehe
[QUOTE=DRRonin; 1412620]Basically what I am trying to say is that pretty much everything I can do back home, I can do here.
But what makes Thailand special for me is what I don't have back home. Warm weather all year round, an apartment house that has a lovely pool and a gym, being able within five minutes to go out at night and hang out with a friend or by myself, feeling safe nearly 100% of the time no matter where I go or at what time. And I have been told that girls are also available and easily accessible. But all this isn't enough for a lot of guys because at the end of the day it isn't home and most people want the familiarity they grew up with, their people, their customs, their way of doing things. You won't find that in Thailand. But for now that is ok with me.[/QUOTE]You do an excellent job of describing all that Bangkok has to offer.
I'm using Miami, Florida as a home base for the time being; so I have the warm weather that characterizes Bangkok, a pool, the beaches a good gym five minutes away; and I've also found a couple of cute strippers who I fuck on a regular basis; US$150 for a really good 2 or 3 hour romp with no strings attached, so the price is reasonable. The dancers in the strip clubs in Miami are as good or better than the coyote dancers in Bangkok; and as we all know, what Bangkok's go-go girls do can't even be called dancing. But all things considered, I really miss Bangkok. It has a vibe I don't find here. Bangkok's restaurant scene is so much better than Miami. Exploring Florida is not like exploring Thailand; and a trip to Atlanta is not like a trip to Hong Kong. Though I have fun with my little strippers, there's nothing like Bangkok's mongering scene here, or anywhere else, as far as I'm concerned.
I think your second to the last sentence really speaks to why some men eventually grow tired of Bangkok. However, learning a new language and culture and making new friends is great mental exercise and can rejuvenate an older brain. I look forward to the day I can call Bangkok home for at least a good part of the year.
[QUOTE=Romannico;1412584]I'm pretty sure that Bash does not open before midnight. I have never been there before 3am. Both clubs are almost across from each other on Soi 11 so it's easy to give both places a try.[/QUOTE]It is just that being older than most of you out there, I normally am asleep by 2 am. It looks like Bash may have to wait for a night of insomnia. Thanks for the run down on the clubs.
Where's the best place for afternoon mongering for the best looking girls? Sometimes its the only time I'm free and haven't found much at the usual haunts suggested in this forum like the Beer Garden, Guliver's, the BJ bars, and anywhere along lower Sukhumvit. When I've searched, I've mostly run into mostly girls with that "Predator" look(you know..the movie, where Arnie yells Get to the choppa!!) that's typical among the hoochie mamas in southeast Asia LOL
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1412620]But what makes Thailand special for me is what I don't have back home. Warm weather all year round, an apartment house that has a lovely pool and a gym, being able within five minutes to go out at night and hang out with a friend or by myself, feeling safe nearly 100% of the time no matter where I go or at what time. And I have been told that girls are also available and easily accessible. But all this isn't enough for a lot of guys because at the end of the day it isn't home and most people want the familiarity they grew up with, their people, their customs, their way of doing things. You won't find that in Thailand. But for now that is ok with me.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1412639]I'm using Miami, Florida as a home base for the time being; so I have the warm weather that characterizes Bangkok, a pool, the beaches a good gym five minutes away; and I've also found a couple of cute strippers who I fuck on a regular basis; US$150 for a really good 2 or 3 hour romp with no strings attached, so the price is reasonable. The dancers in the strip clubs in Miami are as good or better than the coyote dancers in Bangkok; and as we all know, what Bangkok's go-go girls do can't even be called dancing. But all things considered, I really miss Bangkok. It has a vibe I don't find here. Bangkok's restaurant scene is so much better than Miami. Exploring Florida is not like exploring Thailand; and a trip to Atlanta is not like a trip to Hong Kong. Though I have fun with my little strippers, there's nothing like Bangkok's mongering scene here, or anywhere else, as far as I'm concerned.
I think your second to the last sentence really speaks to why some men eventually grow tired of Bangkok. However, learning a new language and culture and making new friends is great mental exercise and can rejuvenate an older brain. I look forward to the day I can call Bangkok home for at least a good part of the year.[/QUOTE]You guys have summed up my thoughts about living abroad well. Right now I lead a pretty good life in south Florida. Weather, one factor DR mentioned, is very good here. But I am tired of living in the USA and long for the day when I can spend more than just 6 weeks a year in Asia. I have a business and family to think about, but sometime in the next 10 years I know I will be free to make the break, reverse things, move to Thailand rent a condo, and spend maybe only 6 weeks a year in south Florida.
Why Thailand? And why Bangkok in particular? Because of all the places I know and would consider as a home base in South East Asia, BKK has it all: more than enough friendly, attractive girls (of course) , plus culture, restaurants, things to do, great location (I. E. Close proximity to other great places of interest like fabulous beaches, islands, reefs, other watering holes (different Asian girls) , and relative safety. The last factor, relative safety, is pretty important to me. I know some great Filipinas for example, and quite possibly a Filipina is a better match for me long term, but the thought of living in Manila or Cebu City does not appeal to me at all. And while the idea of renting a beach house in Palawan or some other beach area in the PI and settling down there with one or two girls is very tempting, when I start to think of the risks associated with living anywhere in the PI, I come to the conclusion it just not worth it. I considered Pattaya Jomtien, but came to the conclusion there is not enough there to keep me interested and occupied. Besides the beach there is polluted. So by default BKK becomes the one really viable choice. Perhaps a couple of years after I make the move to BKK, I may decide to move on to a quieter area with a great beach and settle down with a special Thai girl, but for the initial move to Asia, BKK seems to be the logical right choice for me.
And as far as BKK goes, I really like the upper Sukhumvit area. I like the ambiance and mix of high rise condos, houses, small shops, restaurants, massage parlors, and what not. Anywhere from Soi 23 all the way up to Soi 55 looks real good to me as long as the condo I choose has a good swimming pool, security, and close proximity to the BTS. I think it would feel like I was living in the Thai version of the upper west side of Manhattan only better and I think I would be pretty happy here for at least a year or so. DR, we may be neighbors someday. LOL.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1412722]You guys have summed up my thoughts about living abroad well. Right now I lead a pretty good life in south Florida. Weather, one factor DR mentioned, is very good here. But I am tired of living in the USA and long for the day when I can spend more than just 6 weeks a year in Asia. I have a business and family to think about, but sometime in the next 10 years I know I will be free to make the break, reverse things, move to Thailand rent a condo, and spend maybe only 6 weeks a year in south Florida.
Why Thailand? And why Bangkok in particular? Because of all the places I know and would consider as a home base in South East Asia, BKK has it all: more than enough friendly, attractive girls (of course) , plus culture, restaurants, things to do, great location (I. E. Close proximity to other great places of interest like fabulous beaches, islands, reefs, other watering holes (different Asian girls) , and relative safety. The last factor, relative safety, is pretty important to me. I know some great Filipinas for example, and quite possibly a Filipina is a better match for me long term, but the thought of living in Manila or Cebu City does not appeal to me at all. And while the idea of renting a beach house in Palawan or some other beach area in the PI and settling down there with one or two girls is very tempting, when I start to think of the risks associated with living anywhere in the PI, I come to the conclusion it just not worth it. I considered Pattaya Jomtien, but came to the conclusion there is not enough there to keep me interested and occupied. Besides the beach there is polluted. So by default BKK becomes the one really viable choice. Perhaps a couple of years after I make the move to BKK, I may decide to move on to a quieter area with a great beach and settle down with a special Thai girl, but for the initial move to Asia, BKK seems to be the logical right choice for me.
And as far as BKK goes, I really like the upper Sukhumvit area. I like the ambiance and mix of high rise condos, houses, small shops, restaurants, massage parlors, and what not. Anywhere from Soi 23 all the way up to Soi 55 looks real good to me as long as the condo I choose has a good swimming pool, security, and close proximity to the BTS. I think it would feel like I was living in the Thai version of the upper west side of Manhattan only better and I think I would be pretty happy here for at least a year or so. DR, we may be neighbors someday. LOL.[/QUOTE]Hi guys,
I am a asian living in India, Chennai. I saw your post. Nice to see guys come down from US and living here. Woh. I liked very much the normal way of approach of life. Guys you all in BKK now. I am planning to come BKK again (last trip was mar'13). If you guys are there and willing to meet. Then yes. Me too. Have a great days my fellow mongers.
[quote=goatscrot;1412607]i think that applies to all bj bars. several times over the last month, i have been feeling a bit revved up and thought i would head by for a bj. rode my motorbike by som's, lollipop, and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s a few times, and to be honest just did not see one gal that i would pay (or not pay for that matter) for a bj. the gals were old, fat, and / or just plain unattractive. when i am getting blown i want to look down and think wow! ain't going to happen at those places.[/quote]try mew at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. pretty girl and gives much better than average head, though that's about all she's been willing to do with me. i joke with her about her always being on the rag. there have been a few new girls at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s recently as well. one young sweetie that i remember in particular. i didn't get her name.
gin, at som's place gives a tremendous bbbj. she ain't much to look at, that is true, but what a blowjob.
[quote=catbird; 1412768]try mew at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. pretty girl and gives much better than average head.
gin, at som's place gives a tremendous bbbj. she ain't much to look at, that is true, but what a blowjob.[/quote]many thanks for the names. intending to visit a bj bar for the first time when going to bangkok soon.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and dr bj are two that come up on the forum and it had been my intention to soon ask on here if anyone had name recommendations from experience, to make things less of a gamble about performance when visiting. concerns about looks are out the window on this mission, as my concern is to get that cim bbbj really well done. it has been a long time since cim, and whoever gets it is going to get whiplash.
[quote]one young sweetie that i remember in particular. i didn't get her name[/quote]no. if the name ever resurfaces, i'd be gratefull for a follow up.
[quote=catbird; 1412768]try mew at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. pretty girl and gives much better than average head, though that's about all she's been willing to do with me. i joke with her about her always being on the rag. there have been a few new girls at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s recently as well. one young sweetie that i remember in particular. i didn't get her name.
gin, at som's place gives a tremendous bbbj. she ain't much to look at, that is true, but what a blowjob.[/quote]will give 'them a try. thanks for the tips!
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1412661]Good job!
But what I take from your post is Thailand isn't really that great without the girls.[/QUOTE]Well, what place is? I think everyone on these pages likes being around women whether physically or simply as an observer. Without them I am not sure I would continue to remain in Thailand as much as I like the feel of the place. But Thailand does have lots of them and as I have tried to outline lots more than girls if one so choses. It also depends on what stage you are in life. If I still had to work, I doubt very much that I would want to live in Thailand for financial reasons, but if you are done with the working life and are still pretty healthy Thailand can be a great place to live. If I had tons of money perhaps I would prefer living on the Riviera or in Spain and I could ship girls in from the very best *****houses in Europe, but like most of us I would guess I am on limited means and Thailand fits my budgetary restrictions perfectly. But maybe not because I really like Asian women and SE Asian culture and SE Asian weather. But now that I think about it, there really is by definition no "great" place to live. It's all about what you want and what best fits your needs. Some people will be miserable everywhere. I see guys come to Thailand and love it for a while but eventually they start complaining about every little thing. They would do the same in Shangra la. So all I can say is that Thailand is "great" for me right now.
Kick another 1 out without opening the wallet. Works at Baan K, has own car (or parents?)
This 1 different.
Tries to teach me Thai (goes through 1 ear out the other)
Won't even kiss me for 30 minutes unless I separate myself from other farang. I know just enough bullshit to pass her test (8 thai words, a few thai meals, and all the places to go around Bangkok (asiatique, MBK, siam paragon, floating market, j. J. Market.) Act like I hardly know what a bar girl or soi cowboy is hehe which is what she was expecting was all I knew.
Round 1, she's wet instantly and my first premature ejaculation in a real long time. Don't even know if she realized I came in her a pussy, oh well LOL Sleep cuddled for an hour Round 2 girl is timid "I thought we were going to sleep" hahaha don't think she was going to suck my dick so pull the slickest maneuver to get her to. She is laying down, sit on her chest. Keep on putting finger in her mouth and lips for like 3 minutes until she finally suck it. Put her hand on my dick and make quick dash to stick dick in her mouth. She sucks it like a pro but it so disgusted herself, which makes it so much more gratifying to me. Flip It over and cum on her back and you can tell the girl feels soooo dirty. Can't believe she just did that with farang. She won't even move a centimeter. Laying in bed like a mummy whahaha.
Kick her out at 4 a. M. Act like I have to go food shopping, laughing my ass off. Fuck, I need some better excuses. Think I'd rather jerk off to hot girls then fuck these middle of road hoes. Needs some pretty light skin ones shlobbin' my knob but they get expensive and act like American chicks. If I can't find a pretty light skin Thai chick with a GOOD personality this year, will be off to South America next year where I know I can.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1412834]Well, what place is? I think everyone on these pages likes being around women whether physically or simply as an observer. Without them I am not sure I would continue to remain in Thailand as much as I like the feel of the place. But Thailand does have lots of them and as I have tried to outline lots more than girls if one so choses. It also depends on what stage you are in life. If I still had to work, I doubt very much that I would want to live in Thailand for financial reasons, but if you are done with the working life and are still pretty healthy Thailand can be a great place to live. If I had tons of money perhaps I would prefer living on the Riviera or in Spain and I could ship girls in from the very best *****houses in Europe, but like most of us I would guess I am on limited means and Thailand fits my budgetary restrictions perfectly. But maybe not because I really like Asian women and SE Asian culture and SE Asian weather. But now that I think about it, there really is by definition no "great" place to live. It's all about what you want and what best fits your needs. Some people will be miserable everywhere. I see guys come to Thailand and love it for a while but eventually they start complaining about every little thing. They would do the same in Shangra la. So all I can say is that Thailand is "great" for me right now.[/QUOTE]Ronin makes a very valid point. Thailand is not a great place to work. You are not afforded the same path to citizenship that you are in most Western countries. In fact, you are pretty much prevented from competing and participating in the economy as an equal. To me that is the biggest drawback of Thailand.
[quote=catbird; 1412407]interesting soi but it doesn't do much for me. dr. bj seems a nice fella and i'd like to help out, but his girls just aren't up to snuff looks wise. and, i'm not picky. i hit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and som's place regularly. the looks talent in those two places can be hit and miss, but there are some diamonds in the rough in both places. som's place, in particular, runs hot and cold, but i like the place anyway.
i honestly think dr. bj's soi is just too "open and bright". [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, lollipops and som's haven are more secluded, and inviting. maybe that's just me, but i doubt if i'm alone on that score.[/quote]my sentinments exactly. if you're at a soapie or an oilie after you choose your partner you also want a nice room, fresh towels and bedding, some mood music, a cold beer and you're good to go. for a 30 minute bj give me dark and seedy, cheap and sleezy not gleam and clean. personally sol does it for me.
[QUOTE=Linkwray666; 1412570]I will be happily spending some time and Baht on soi 7/1 in a few weeks. Headed to Eden for sure and most likely will pay multiple visits, will probably also check out Dr. BJ's if only to have a go at the lovely miss EE. Will probably end up getting a few massages on that soi also as it is convenient to my hotel location.
Which businesses are going under?[/QUOTE]Don't forget Tarntip massage. Their new place has spa like facilities at regular prices (400 for an oil massage) and is open late. Nominally a straight up massage only spot but things ain't always what they seem.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1412962]I ll try another way. Thailand attracts certain kind of people, I am one of them. But lets not give Thailand too much credit saying theres tons of things to do. All places have the same pool tables, newspapers, malls, etc.
Its the girls![/QUOTE]There are lots of things to do here. Beaches, temples, mountains, hilltribe peoples, caves, amazing varieties of foods, rivers, etc. And traveling and enjoying these things is relatively inexpensive and in many of the places it is not crowded if you travel outside of high season.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1412961]I thought you were into light skin pretty girls. LOL.
Good on you if you lowering your standards-youll have more fun![/QUOTE]I am, but hey, there just aren't that many of them around these days. All places are worth a look see at least. If I don't like, well, can always move on. Now, if I could just find out what the barfine is at Central World or Terminal 21!
[quote=harold444;1412965]barfined a rainbow 2 girl last night. i liked the session very much, will probably do her again in my 3 remaining weeks.[/quote]i liked your report h. it mirrors my go go experiences. i have found that there are a lot of wonderful, fun loving, sexy girls working the go go's that are more than willing to show a guy a good time if they like him and he treats them nice. it sounds to me like you should definitely do her again and if you like her, trade email addresses and cell numbers with her. i have a few go go girls rep001tered around bkk, pat, ac, and subic that i have been seeing for years. they are all great. but, as i am sure you know; variety is the spice of life. whenever i start to spend too much time with the go go girls, it is very rewarding to mix it up and visit a soapy or oily for a slightly different, but no less satisfying experience.
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I am a little surprised that many disco's clubs (like Bangkok Beat and former Insomnia) are already closing at 2 AM.
First I thought this was before the upcoming Songkran festivals but also over the last days I experienced this.
Staff can't give always the best answers its mostly like need to do from police.
At least 5 nights over the last 12 days.
Yesterday (Friday) evening first the lights went on at 2AM on Bangkok Beat and afterwards (2:30 I guess) when I was eating something at the terrace of the former Insomnia the people came an mass out of the club.
New policies or?
Enclosed some of the scores that I made so far.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1413008]Now, if I could just find out what the barfine is at Central World or Terminal 21![/QUOTE]It's waaaaayyyy more than you have. Or at least are willing to part with. :)
I'm back from Thailand, having spent 3 nights in Pattaya and 5 nights in Bangkok. Women can be found in many venues, including beer bars, Go-Gos, clubs and the streets. Some are associated with the establishment in some way, resulting in bar fines to take them out; others are strictly free-lancers. I prefer the beer bars, because their noise level is tolerable and conversation is possible. In other places, the music is so loud as to preclude any conversation, particularly with women with limited English ability. This is the high season, with great (dry) weather and many visitors, but there was no shortage of available women. The currency here is the Baht, but for convenience I'll talk dollars. I usually go for the 'short time; ' I'm a one-pop guy at my age, so overnighters have little appeal.
I booked a girl-friendly hotel strategically located near the infamous 'walking street. ' in Pattaya. On my first night, I found a cutie in a beer bar. She was a good kisser and great fuck, and the price was very good ($30 plus $10 bar fine). I took the second night off to recover from jet lag. On my last night in Pattaya, I couldn't find any in the beer bars that floated my boat, so I broke down and went to a well-reviewed Go-Go. By then it was 1:00 am; the place had very few guys, but 4 women were dancing on the poles and 2 were playing in a tub across the room. One of the tub ladies looked very pretty from a distance, and she was naked, so her body looked good too. I beckoned to her and she dried herself off and joined me. She looked just as good close up and had a bubbly personality, so I made the arrangements. As I expected, she was more expensive: $60 plus a $20 bar fine. She too provided a great time.
On to Bangkok, with a reservation in another girl-friendly hotel between the two famous venues: Nana and Soi Cowboy. (Q: what's the sure sign of a girl-friendly hotel? A: condoms in the minibar!)
On my first night out, I headed up the street to find some action. I didn't get far; I ran into a stunning woman a block from my hotel. I suspect she had just left a client in another hotel, but no matter. Her short-time charge was $60 and she was true GFE. She wanted to stay the night but I declined.
I took a day off, and my third day was a double header. In the late afternoon I visited the famous Annie's soapy massage parlor. I walked in to see about a dozen women on display behind a glass window, all wearing black bikinis, and all solid 8s. I finally chose a slim, long-legged one. She led me to a room equipped with a bathtub, a pad on the floor and a bed. The charge was $75 for two hours, and the menu included a bubble bath, slip and slide nuru style on the pad, an oil massage, and finally full service. Definitely lots of fun. A Thai I see back in Virginia had given me contact information for a friend of hers in Bangkok, so I arranged to see her when I arrived. She showed up at my hotel in the evening, and provided a GFE. She cost a little more, at $90.
It was time to check out some of the local bars, so on my fourth night I visited Thermae, a well-known pick-up bar for free-lancers that was just down the street from my hotel. There were several women standing outside, a good sign. I went inside and was blown away there had be at least 50 women literally standing shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter, and more seated at tables. They vastly outnumbered us guys, who were looking as dazed as I was. How to pick? I finally selected one; her short-time rate was $60, and she had a great personality as well as providing a GFE. She's a hairdresser, and does this for extra income; she clearly enjoyed sex, so it's a winning combination.
On my last night, a return to Thermae was clearly indicated. The scene was the same; if anything, there were more women. The selection process was simplified when a cutie grabbed me and said she had a discount for me only $45. She also spoke decent English, so after a short Q&A to confirm that she was GFE, off we went. She too was a part-timer, selling clothes as her day job. I suspect a lot of the FLs are similar.
So that's a week in the land of smiles; my only challenge is how to get back there soon!
I would not personally invest in this, but I check this site and post this from time to time just for info.
Click on the girl and if it says "she does special service". she will do Bareback, cum in pussy.
It requires a fee of 40,000 B and the 2 of you get an HIV check together before. Looks like Som, Cleo, Beer and Ann are up to it. Beer has some big tits and Ann looks pretty cute.
For one night the total is:
40,000
10,000(escort fee)
3,000 (for test)
[url]http://www.bkkescorts.com/Bangkok[/url]%20escorts%20no%2007 / contact. Htm
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1413215]I would not personally invest in this, but I check this site and post this from time to time just for info.
Click on the girl and if it says "she does special service". She will do Bareback, cum in pussy.
It requires a fee of 40, 000 B and the 2 of you get an HIV check together before. Looks like Som, Cleo, Beer and Ann are up to it. Beer has some big tits and Ann looks pretty cute.
For one night the total is:
40, 000.
10, 000 (escort fee)
3, 000 (for test) [/QUOTE]The sky is the limit. I'm sure they will find some men with more money than brains to take that option.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1413215]Click on the girl and if it says "she does special service". She will do Bareback, cum in pussy.
For one night the total is:
40, 000.
10, 000 (escort fee)
3, 000 (for test)
[url]http://www.bkkescorts.com/Bangkok[/url]
%20escorts%20no%2007 / contact. Htm[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1413222]The sky is the limit. I'm sure they will find some men with more money than brains to take that option.[/QUOTE]Isn't free enterprise great. Some mongers ride bareback. Most men find bareback more pleasurable than wearing a condom. So this enterprising service provider offers "unprotected safe sex" for the small fee of THB40000. What a deal! Wonder how often do they get a taker? I also noticed in the past they have offered virgins. Wonder what is on the unpublished menu? One of the things I love about the sex business is the way it supplies the demand. Anything you want is available for a price.
Of course I'm guessing the guys who ride bareback are getting it at no extra cost or with a little extra added to the tip. I've had it offered at no extra charge or for a small surcharge, and only turned it down because I value my health. However now that there is an FDA approved in-home oral HIV test that gives results in 20 minutes maybe I should revisit this option. A few OraQuick packs and a bottle of antibiotics and I have nothing to fear. Right. I'm being facetious.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1412977]Don't forget Tarntip massage. Their new place has spa like facilities at regular prices (400 for an oil massage) and is open late. Nominally a straight up massage only spot but things ain't always what they seem.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, was wondering about that place and the other massage places in that soi. I enjoy a nice massage whether or not it ends with HE (but prefer that is does!) and usually have at least one massage a day when in SE Asia, will check it out and if it's good probably go multiple times.
been paying for pussy since i was a teen and it's usually better. trying to convince a girl 2 hours to suck your dick and then just lick the tip for 2 minutes is not the most fun thing in the world. however it's just coming too easy in thailand and seems every woman knows how to suck a dick here. money still greater then game in my mind, but due to financial restrictions using game to score in bangkok, even though a woman costs as much as a dvd here.
4/20.
5:30 super sexy 20 why / o spinner with model face on my bed. looking a little crusty and lack of communication is really hurting. only get tongue kissing in before she sprints out the door. painful rejection. probably should've taken her to cinema but also may have saved myself 2 hours of blue balls. just found out today the age of consent is 20 here? whatttt theeee fuckkkk? true?
9:00 resurrection. soon to be 35 year old with most vicious body. 4'11, 98 pounds, quality fake tits, and the plumpest, juiciest ass i have ever seen on a woman that age. speaks good english and come to find out she is super entrepreneur / business woman. owns many businesses, travels the world, speaks good english and has great personality. came from nothing. offers to pay for everything. no kids, works 7 days a week. impressed.
we bar hop in silom / patpong and i have to say i'm a big fan of the nightlife in the area. i can do without the toothless, retarded british gangster looking homos and the spaghetti stained t shirt, pile of shit american wwe fans. in other words, not as low class as pattaya or nana. throwing down well made mixed drinks and beer. singaporeans, malaysians and westerners partying it up. hit another place with live music and i'm feeling it. singing to classic american songs. bars rep001tered with tourists and cute thai hookers in nice dresses bobbing their heads to the music. saw a lot of butt i would feed.
head over to narz club a few blocks behind soi cowboy and the place is dope. world class club. tons of space, isolation, and dark nooks. hooking up with her for 2 hours. try to fuck her on the floor there behind a bar and don't but the opportunity is there. beats the hell out of a jizz stained short time hotel. girl tries to go our separate ways 5 times but i'm not having that. onto the bed and it's the tightest pussy i've seen since high school. she hasn't had sex in a longggggg time and maybe 2 or 3 times in the last 3 years. i luck out again because i'm only 75% hard with all the liquor in me and it still hurts her. actually feel bad cumming in this one's pussy. she really didn't want it and even smells my dick but still doesn't recognize it. quick nut unfortunately. hook up with her some more and she actually give me a footjob that feels good. didn't know that was possible and get hard enough to give her some candy. feeling steve jobs type of accomplished as i walk this one out.
4/21 reunite with the gf. she's been getting paid. 1 old dude gave her 60, 000 baht. supposedly 9 weeks in the game but want to quit and be a waitress. i prefer her to take the shriveled dick so she can keep on buying my meals. dumb front desk pig tells her i've been bringing girls here every night (at least the taxi drivers here like me) she runs of crying. returns an hour later and i get my nut off. sleeping early and maybe go to ayutthaya with the gf tomorrow. 2 weeks til my first cambodian pussy wheeee. might not pay for it til then.
Stopped by the Bangkok classic, the Thermae Coffee Shop on Sukhumvit, this past Saturday night around 11pm. There must have been 100 Thai ladies, standing shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter of the place. For the Japanese mongers, this place is heaven on earth. I'd estimate the women outnumbered the men 2 to 1. I found a 32 year old who had the sense to realize she was up against some tough competition. She asked me for 2500Baht, and I spit my ice back into my drink! Finally settled on 1500 Baht, which I think is a little high, but I failed to do the full interview before we headed back to the hotel. When we started the party, she whipped out a condom. Her message was, no condom, no smoke. That really doesn't work for me, so I didn't enjoy myself as much as I would have liked. She had a pretty decent body for having 2 kids in Burriram. No map of Thailand on her stomach, and her breasts were still in decent shape. She loved having her "hoy" licked, and came before I decided to saddle up for my ride. Another learning experience. Give me Pattaya any time. But I will check out the Thermae before I leave for the USA. I saw 25 budget busters in the Thermae last Saturday night! I will need one for the road.
[QUOTE=HoyArroi;1413714]Stopped by the Bangkok classic, the Thermae Coffee Shop on Sukhumvit, this past Saturday night around 11pm. There must have been 100 Thai ladies, standing shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter of the place. For the Japanese mongers, this place is heaven on earth. I'd estimate the women outnumbered the men 2 to 1. I found a 32 year old who had the sense to realize she was up against some tough competition. She asked me for 2500Baht, and I spit my ice back into my drink! Finally settled on 1500 Baht, which I think is a little high, but I failed to do the full interview before we headed back to the hotel. When we started the party, she whipped out a condom. Her message was, no condom, no smoke. That really doesn't work for me, so I didn't enjoy myself as much as I would have liked. She had a pretty decent body for having 2 kids in Burriram. No map of Thailand on her stomach, and her breasts were still in decent shape. She loved having her "hoy" licked, and came before I decided to saddle up for my ride. Another learning experience. Give me Pattaya any time. But I will check out the Thermae before I leave for the USA. I saw 25 budget busters in the Thermae last Saturday night! I will need one for the road.[/QUOTE]Just a lesson learned.
Just do the Pre sooner next time.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1413143]I spend so much time in BKK I'm thinking about renting IDEO verve for a year 10 seconds from onnut bts station. I really love that condo! Only problem is I doubt girls will want to travel that far from nana for a barfine.[/QUOTE]Going back to your place within a 15 min travel radius is actually a good test to weed out the bad apples just looking for the as-fast-as-possible bang. If she's unwilling to spend 15 min going there, she won't be willing to spend the time to service you properly either. Asking for 2 shots (for slightly more money, perhaps) , is another test that works.
On Nut might be just a tad too far, though. Especially when the BTS is not running (after midnight).
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1413891]Going back to your place within a 15 min travel radius is actually a good test to weed out the bad apples just looking for the as-fast-as-possible bang. If she's unwilling to spend 15 min going there, she won't be willing to spend the time to service you properly either. Asking for 2 shots (for slightly more money, perhaps) , is another test that works.
On Nut might be just a tad too far, though. Especially when the BTS is not running (after midnight).[/QUOTE]So true. It is a great way to weed out the ones that just want to provide wham bam service. If they are willing to travel to On Nut, they are probably willing to stay awhile. Harold, take the place!
[quote=nevergetsold; 1413413]been paying for pussy since i was a teen and it's usually better. trying to convince a girl 2 hours to suck your dick and then just lick the tip for 2 minutes is not the most fun thing in the world. however it's just coming too easy in thailand and seems every woman knows how to suck a dick here. money still greater then game in my mind, but due to financial restrictions using game to score in bangkok, even though a woman costs as much as a dvd here.
4/20.
5:30 super sexy 20 why / o spinner with model face on my bed. looking a little crusty and lack of communication is really hurting. only get tongue kissing in before she sprints out the door. painful rejection. probably should've taken her to cinema but also may have saved myself 2 hours of blue balls. just found out today the age of consent is 20 here? whatttt theeee fuckkkk? true?
9:00 resurrection. soon to be 35 year old with most vicious body. 4'11, 98 pounds, quality fake tits, and the plumpest, juiciest ass i have ever seen on a woman that age. speaks good english and come to find out she is super entrepreneur / business woman. owns many businesses, travels the world, speaks good english and has great personality. came from nothing. offers to pay for everything. no kids, works 7 days a week. impressed.
we bar hop in silom / patpong and i have to say i'm a big fan of the nightlife in the area. i can do without the toothless, retarded british gangster looking homos and the spaghetti stained t shirt, pile of shit american wwe fans. in other words, not as low class as pattaya or nana. throwing down well made mixed drinks and beer. singaporeans, malaysians and westerners partying it up. hit another place with live music and i'm feeling it. singing to classic american songs. bars rep001tered with tourists and cute thai hookers in nice dresses bobbing their heads to the music. saw a lot of butt i would feed.
head over to narz club a few blocks behind soi cowboy and the place is dope. world class club. tons of space, isolation, and dark nooks. hooking up with her for 2 hours. try to fuck her on the floor there behind a bar and don't but the opportunity is there. beats the hell out of a jizz stained short time hotel. girl tries to go our separate ways 5 times but i'm not having that. onto the bed and it's the tightest pussy i've seen since high school. she hasn't had sex in a longggggg time and maybe 2 or 3 times in the last 3 years. i luck out again because i'm only 75% hard with all the liquor in me and it still hurts her. actually feel bad cumming in this one's pussy. she really didn't want it and even smells my dick but still doesn't recognize it. quick nut unfortunately. hook up with her some more and she actually give me a footjob that feels good. didn't know that was possible and get hard enough to give her some candy. feeling steve jobs type of accomplished as i walk this one out.
4/21 reunite with the gf. she's been getting paid. 1 old dude gave her 60, 000 baht. supposedly 9 weeks in the game but want to quit and be a waitress. i prefer her to take the shriveled dick so she can keep on buying my meals. dumb front desk pig tells her i've been bringing girls here every night (at least the taxi drivers here like me) she runs of crying. returns an hour later and i get my nut off. sleeping early and maybe go to ayutthaya with the gf tomorrow. 2 weeks til my first cambodian pussy wheeee. might not pay for it til then.[/quote]so you are being supported by a bar girl?
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1413413]. I can do without the toothless, retarded british gangster looking homos and the spaghetti stained t shirt, pile of shit American wwe fans. Throwing down well made mixed drinks and beer. Singaporeans, Malaysians and westerners partying it up.[/QUOTE]And you, who are living off a girl who fucks for a living like any self respecting pimp does, must percieve yourself as Mr Cool. A hot young buck who clearly has charm so much so his freebies run away. Get a life young fellow, and realise that you have just written yourself into ISG's anals of plonkerdon.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1414081]you have just written yourself into ISG's anals of plonkerdon.[/QUOTE]Haha, FF you are taking the art of F slipping to perfection LOL.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1414066]So you are being supported by a bar girl?[/QUOTE]Nah, but she helps me out immensely. Has 1000 Thai friend rolodex that come in handy in more ways then you could imagine.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1413891]Going back to your place within a 15 min travel radius is actually a good test to weed out the bad apples just looking for the as-fast-as-possible bang. If she's unwilling to spend 15 min going there, she won't be willing to spend the time to service you properly either. Asking for 2 shots (for slightly more money, perhaps) , is another test that works.
On Nut might be just a tad too far, though. Especially when the BTS is not running (after midnight).[/QUOTE]These days many of the girls in Nana Plaza don't even want to leave the Plaza to go down the street to my apt. The short time hotels there do an amazing business. I should have invested in one. I have seen a lot of girls not even bother to change. Right from the go-go in their go-go outfit into a st room and back again within 30 minutes unless they get stuck in foot traffic. I can't imagine there are many Nana go-go girls that would be willing to go further than Asoke unless you had a prior relationship with her, payed her extra or the rent was over due. Soi Cowboy may be different.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1414130]These days many of the girls in Nana Plaza don't even want to leave the Plaza to go down the street to my apt. .[/QUOTE]Many but not all. I have seen some typical go-go cuties (those with a japanese make up and hair-do) walking in tow of a customer on Sukhumvit heading to some nearby (punter's) hotel. Still they are back after some 30'. They are dressed in civil, but the make up shows where they are coming from
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1412962]I ll try another way. Thailand attracts certain kind of people, I am one of them. But lets not give Thailand too much credit saying theres tons of things to do. All places have the same pool tables, newspapers, malls, etc.
Its the girls![/QUOTE]The girls in Thailand are Awsome. Compare to the women back home in Western countries. They are cold, arrogant, overweight, disrespectful, if you manage to get one to go out with you, It is like she is doing you a favor, a feminist, talks down about men behind our backs. Need I go on? Asian women are soooooo much better. There is just no comparison what so ever.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1413215]I would not personally invest in this, but I check this site and post this from time to time just for info.
Click on the girl and if it says "she does special service". She will do Bareback, cum in pussy.
It requires a fee of 40, 000 B and the 2 of you get an HIV check together before. Looks like Som, Cleo, Beer and Ann are up to it. Beer has some big tits and Ann looks pretty cute.
For one night the total is:
40, 000.
10, 000 (escort fee)
3, 000 (for test)
[url]http://www.bkkescorts.com/Bangkok[/url]
%20escorts%20no%2007 / contact. Htm[/QUOTE]You are playing with a loaded gun when doing without condom. Someone is bound to get hurt. Have more will power and self control. Do look into some japanese brand condoms, they are guarantee to be the thinest. Good luck to you.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1412962]I ll try another way. Thailand attracts certain kind of people, I am one of them. But lets not give Thailand too much credit saying theres tons of things to do. All places have the same pool tables, newspapers, malls, etc.
Its the girls![/QUOTE]Its the girls + the infrastructure of a world class city that happens to have relatively low priced 4 and 5 star hotels in abundance, and some of the lowest cost luxury apartment and condo rentals of any major city in the world. If it were just the girls and pool tables and so forth, then Phnom Penh, Myamar, and Angeles City would be just as good, but they are not, because a visitor is forced in those cities to contend on a day to day basis with significant 3rd world type issues.
Now for the extreme hypothetical, if (in the very rare case) money were no object, would a monger chose to primarily live in Bangkok? No, probably not, as he would probably have multiple homes elsewhere, for example perhaps an oceanfront estate or condo in Hawaii and the means to bring in all mainland girls he needed, and perhaps for example a flat in London to enjoy all the top end P4P talent now being imported into that city especially from China and other asian locales, as well as Eastern Europe. The UK in fact has now effectively made not only (non brothel) P4P private (off the street) transactions legal, but now with a recent court case in effect have made agency operations de facto legal as long as the agencies only exercise minimal control over their agency girls. So expect the imported talent to get even better for those that can afford for the top end 3 to 5 times the cost in Bangkok for ST, and up to 10 times the cost in Bangkok for LT.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1414081]And you, who are living off a girl who fucks for a living like any self respecting pimp does, must percieve yourself as Mr Cool. A hot young buck who clearly has charm so much so his freebies run away. Get a life young fellow, and realise that you have just written yourself into ISG's anals of plonkerdon.[/QUOTE]Creative writing or accurate, it doesn't matter, as his posts are entertainining, and also its a fact women worldwide do get turned on by ATTITUDE. Also reminds me of the notorious Buddy Love character.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC6ECo_Ulzs[/url]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1414081]And you, who are living off a girl who fucks for a living like any self respecting pimp does, must percieve yourself as Mr Cool. A hot young buck who clearly has charm so much so his freebies run away. Get a life young fellow, and realise that you have just written yourself into ISG's anals of plonkerdon.[/QUOTE]
(repeat post)
[QUOTE=Vincelee76;1414161]You are playing with a loaded gun when doing without condom. Someone is bound to get hurt. Have more will power and self control. Do look into some japanese brand condoms, they are guarantee to be the thinest. Good luck to you.[/QUOTE]This should be debated here.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1084-Safe-Sex[/url]
So this time I decided to take an escort service for 24 hours. Booked Stephanie from viagara escort services. Now it's a given that pics on websites will be photoshopped etc. So I was prepared for it and didn't expect her to 100% match her pics. In Stephanie's case, I would say expect 15-20% difference. Her English is not up to the mark. But rest of the services are as advertised. I would say it is value for money if you take for longer time like 24 hrs. For short time, I m not sure.
Next day I tried the mango massage parlour. Selected Wan from the lineup. Not much massage but excellent at BJ. Would recommend. But go for take out at your hotel room. The rooms inside are really small and tacky.
Never been to soi cowboy so went to check the famous baccara gogo. If you are Indian, you should forget about visiting this bar to pick up girls. We (Indians) have a bad rep here with these bars and I was already aware of it. (Not complaining since I know majority of Indians which visit Thailand are freeloading sexually repressed bums who have no idea of how to behave in foreign lands). Couldn't make eye contact with any girl. Some of the gorgeous ones were in fact not even there for the taking out I think. They were just eye candy I assume. Also saw not many farangs also getting attention. In fact the joint was prolly 70-80% filled with East Asians (Japanese I presume). Those were the guys getting the attention and the smiles. The rule of 4 at work I think.
Guess one can start splashing money about to show you mean business but I finished my beer and got out of there. Had an early morning flight to catch. Maybe will try it next time and see if it works.
[quote=vincelee76;1414151]the girls in thailand are awsome. compare to the women back home in western countries. they are cold, arrogant, overweight, disrespectful, if you manage to get one to go out with you, it is like she is doing you a favor, a feminist, talks down about men behind our backs. need i go on? asian women are soooooo much better. there is just no comparison what so ever.[/quote]i don't agree with your assessment on western women! the only difference is asian women tend not to be nearly as fat and ugly, but as far as being cold and arrogant, i don't think there's any difference between the two groups. on a brief visit back to my home, i was exiting walgreen's and a black lady smiled and complimented me on my shirt. how often does one get that in non p4p venues in thailand? i'll tell you what fella, try a little experiment and attend a classy joint void of any p4p overtones, go up to high class girls (hell they can be middle class too) and say"hi i like you. you lub me? want come my loom?" and tell me how warm and welcoming thai girls are hahaha.
on a different note, i was in the silom area the other day decided grab a bite to eat at carl's jr. i thought this was the strangest place in all of bkk to put a burger joint in the middle of a little tokyo rld, but whatever. lol the ideal spot to sit is at the window in front and you can look at the hustle and bustle outside, and of course see the girls with their new boyfriend in tow, many nice girls here, does anyone know the price? i finish eating a carl's catch fish sandwich (highly recommended!) and decide to get a blowjob at star of light nearby, which had some excellent review. i find it and there's a few girls outside, very average looking (to put it kindly) and i open the door and walk in and was met by an awful smell, holy shit it was putrid! the room was decrepit and there was a cum bucket on the floor nearby. i peeked around the corner and some very average looking girls sitting on the couch with a blanket, they said you want blow job? it was grimy as hell and made a nana short time room look like the bellagio in las vegas hahaha. i said, no thanks and left.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1414230]I don't agree with your assessment on Western women! The only difference is Asian women tend not to be nearly as fat and ugly, but as far as being cold and arrogant, I don't think there's any difference between the two groups. On a brief visit back to my home, I was exiting Walgreen's and a black lady smiled and complimented me on my shirt. How often does one get that in non p4p venues in Thailand? I'll tell you what fella, try a little experiment and attend a classy joint void of any p4p overtones, go up to high class girls (hell they can be middle class too) and say"hi I like you. You lub me? Want come my loom?" and tell me how warm and welcoming Thai girls are hahaha.[/QUOTE]Agreed Tony. The attitudes in BKK have become awful over the past 10 years. Yes, the women over here are far prettier, but they take materialism to an entirely new level. They only "warm" up when they think it will get them somewhere, and it is not just us Farangs that have to deal with this. The Thais dudes do as well.
In the West you will find a woman who will contribute more than her snatch to the relationship.
Vince, if and when you go out on a date with a gal here ask her what she is bringing to table besides sex. Most of us are bringing an estate of some value, and hey, I am not going to take care of a gal. Why should I? Renting is fine, but to join in a union with a gal who has nothing and will bleed ya dry is she can. No thanks!
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1414119]Living off? Nerd I've been running my own business since a young age and never had a $1 handed to me. Not someone's ***** or slave for 30 years. She just brings me the best food around Bangkok. Vietnamese breakfast yesterday was banging. Don't me mad because I realize a girl can offer you a lot more then pussy if you are smart. Should be thanking me. I am helping a few more poor bastards get their dick wet because of me. I wouldn't put it like that but if fucking hot girls every day with an occasional rejection isn't Mr cool I don't know what is. I am not bragging, only sharing more tips then most and 1/1000 of my success to give back to a forum that has helped me a lot in some of my adventures.[/QUOTE]Hey thanks for that! [url]YAWWWN[/url]
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1414261]Hey thanks for that!
[url]YAWWWN[/url][/QUOTE]He's Buddha's gift to the hobby, and to the entire ISG community. I guess we should be thanking him.
[quote=tony hoeprano; 1414230]i don't agree with your assessment on western women! the only difference is asian women tend not to be nearly as fat and ugly, but as far as being cold and arrogant, i don't think there's any difference between the two groups. on a brief visit back to my home, i was exiting walgreen's and a black lady smiled and complimented me on my shirt. how often does one get that in non p4p venues in thailand? i'll tell you what fella, try a little experiment and attend a classy joint void of any p4p overtones, go up to high class girls (hell they can be middle class too) and say"hi i like you. you lub me? want come my loom?" and tell me how warm and welcoming thai girls are hahaha.
on a different note, i was in the silom area the other day decided grab a bite to eat at carl's jr. i thought this was the strangest place in all of bkk to put a burger joint in the middle of a little tokyo rld, but whatever. lol the ideal spot to sit is at the window in front and you can look at the hustle and bustle outside, and of course see the girls with their new boyfriend in tow, many nice girls here, does anyone know the price? i finish eating a carl's catch fish sandwich (highly recommended!) and decide to get a blowjob at star of light nearby, which had some excellent review. i find it and there's a few girls outside, very average looking (to put it kindly) and i open the door and walk in and was met by an awful smell, holy shit it was putrid! the room was decrepit and there was a cum bucket on the floor nearby. i peeked around the corner and some very average looking girls sitting on the couch with a blanket, they said you want blow job? it was grimy as hell and made a nana short time room look like the bellagio in las vegas hahaha. i said, no thanks and left.[/quote]the thai girls at 7-11 think your shirt is nice, but can speak the english words to tell you.
carl's? where is it i love that place.
sol. that is what makes it a great and different experience for me. the filth, smell and grit. not for everyone i guess.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1414275]He's Buddha's gift to the hobby, and to the entire ISG community. I guess we should be thanking him.[/QUOTE]Oh, so this is the ISG, about paying girls to perform sexual acts and various affiliated items? Thanks for clearing that up, for a moment I thought I had ended up in Pimp Central.
Ok since I know this report is going to be lost into the black hole that is any of the Thailand threads I'm going to make it short and sweet. Maybe not sweet. You be the judge of that.
Day 1.
Landed at noon on the 19th and got to my hotel Citadines on soi 23 at about 2. Took what was supposed to be a short nap. Got up at 7. Oops there goes my late afternoon session. Fuck that was a bad start. Get up and change and head to nana plaza. Have a couple of drinks at stumble inn, with the company of a lady. She was nice but I'd say a 6/10. Then head into the soi. I had a list made up of the places I'd go to. Got it from another website by a guy who does a great short review of nights in Bangkok if you were to do it on a red eye, and has a blog about guest friendly hotels. Thanks buddy. Entering the plaza to the right walked up one level. Mandarin 1 and 2. Waste of time. Up another floor. Nobody in carnival. Back down a floor and around to dc10. Guy seems to not let me in. I don't bother. Stick my head into spankys and angel witch nothing of interest. Go back up and look into billboard. Girls in tub but nothing looking hot. Lasvegas is closed. All the way down. To playschool. I like the place. Have a couple of beers, girls best here so far. Then to rainbow 1. Not allowed in. Members. WTF. Ok I move to lollypop, no interest. Then red lips, and pretty lady, a beer there each. Not bad but not great. Now the rounds are done and I can go to the top on the list to pick up some nice ladies. Ohh yeah holly word was night if I remember correctly. I go to rainbow 2 not let in. Members. So walk up to rainbow 4. Members. Ok now I'm a little fucking annoyed with these thai guy mother fucking racist bouncers. I can be racist too you useless pricks. (I'm indian by the way) I was so hoping to pick up a girl from rainbow 4 or 2 which I remember from my last trip were the best places to go in nana. Fuck it. I always thought soi cowboy was better in terms of atmosphere and girls. And never feltany racism there.
Head to soi cowboy with one of the few honest meter going taxi drivers in BKK. On the main road side now. Make my way to long gun, and raw hide. A beer in each, then to de javu. I like this place. But there is still tilac and baccara which are my favorites. Get to cowboy 2. Worst bar on earth. But I am drunk and the mamasan drags me in. Long story short I have another 10 beers there mayhbe and but the whole place drinks and dance on the stage, and smoke indoors. Basically fuck myself. Bill is 16, 000 its not wrong I really was that stupid. So much for taking a girl home that night. The ugly mamsan is so drunk too she is trying t stick her tongue down my throat and I am pushing her away. She want to come home with me. 500 bhat. I would not do this woman if you gave me a million dollars. Stumble out but some chicken and rice which tastes like heaven walked home and got my sorry ass into bed. Fuck 17 hours in BKK and not 1 lay.
Day 2. Eden club.
Like the idea. Also my first 3 some. Got there had a beer. Feeling like shit from the night before but must champion on. Hve a litre of water and am feeling much better. At eden at 3 was the only one inside at the bar. Then another 2 guys walked in, then a 3. So now I'm calculating. If each guy takes 2 girls. That means there are 6 girls going with these guys, so I better make my choice fast otherwise the good ones will go. Girls line up. On the left of center the do anal, on the right they do standard. I pick the best girl I can see first and she is an 7/10. Have to say I was a bit disappointed with the lineup. Anyways she points to her friend for the 3 some and thank god her friend is probably the next best looking. And off we go. I kind of feel sorry that the other guys were left the not so nice. We go up a couple of floors. Into the room. Smoke and beer. Showerd by girl1 and dried off by girl 2. Then on to the bed and girl 1 is starting to give me a BBBJ and some rimming. Girl 2is done with her shower and comes and continues the BBBJ while girl 1 rims some more. Then I ask girl 2 to sit on my face for a nice meal. She tastes pretty good. Then girl 2climbs aboard for cowgirl while she kisses girl 1. Shit this is getting comfusing. Then I do one of them in doggy while she east the other one out and when I'm ready to burst I do it on her ass. And it is a glorious sight to see. We then shower. Back to the bed for a massage by both. Horrible. Then flip over and they start to wake mr johnson up again. Then they ask in I want to watch them fuck eachother. Yes please. Strap on comes on and while one is fucking the other. The one being fucked is giving me a BJ. Nice. Then I feel like getting in on the action. And I go behind the girl with the strap on and slide into her. Lovely. This is a 3 some I guess. I'm fucking the girl who is fucking the girl. I'm getting ready to come and I get them both to get on their knees. I want to come on both their faces. But end up comming on the one I chose's mouuth. Then to the shower. Then I realise that the girl I chose looks kind of like my cousins girlfriend. Hhhmmm naughty me.
Overview.
Girl 1 7/10.
Girl 2 6/10.
Action 7/10 or both (sad realisation I am not into 3 somes) not that I would deny it if it happened to me outside mongering. Wishful thinking.
Cost 4500 3900 for girls, rest for drinks.
Later realised that there is a deal. 2 girls for 2500. I got fucked again. Haha.
Had some dinner and felt much better. Met a friend and went to bilboard in nana. Nice shows. One reall hottie. Left at 1am and t soi cowboi. This tim going to sip the place from te pevious nit and only hit the favorites. Get to baccara and go upsair. 1 smoke and 1 ber and I'm out. Te place was almost empty. All the god girls gone. Te to shark next do. And get stuck the eyeing 3 girls. Spend about 3 grand on too much alchol. 2 k on tipping, and take 1 girl home. Get to the hotel and breeze past recepton. Not an eyelid batted. In for a shower and onto the bed. 1 viagra taken to counter the affecs of the alcohol. I first start by going down on her and nom nm noming my way for a while. My is she a loud little one. Then she can take no more and keeps telling me to boom boom. Sh is very cute. Kind of remings me of the character amelie. We kiss passionatly. Very passionatly, she is looking deep deep int my eyes. Thenon with the condondom and in missionary. Wo she rally is a loud one. And sh I nicely tight. This position at different angles for a while then int doggy where we kee at it but the viagra is keeping me rock hard, but the alcohol and lac of sleep is making me tired I can't come. So I pull out and tell her I can't. She says no worries, we will try in the morning. I collapse next to her and she snuggles in very very tightly into my arms, her eyes looking into mine, and she looks like she is tearing up. We keep cuddling. And we dift I and out of sleep. Kissing while awake and cuddling while sleeping. Then 2 hours later I get hard again, and I am gently stroking her, I can she she is responding nicely. Then slip my hand down and damn she is soaking wet. Rub her quite a bit. And we are spooning. I guess it gets to a point where she can't tke any more and grabs me and slides me in as she lets out a big ghasp. She then starts moving her hips. I guess I am also a bit worked up because I completely forgot about the condom. Then we switch to missionary. And we are even more passionate this round. Deep eye staring and loving strokes. This goes on for a while a long while and she is loving it. Then I pull out of her and come all over her body to stop me from cumming inside her. Use a towel and I wipe her off, and once again collapse next to her. She cuddles me and kisses me more and more. I am done. After about 3 minutes of coddling she sticks her head beneath the sheets and is inspecting my package and rubbing it gently. I guess because the viagra is still having its effect on me and since I only just came I was sporting a semi. Which she then looks satisfyed with and climbs aboard pushing me back into her and starts grinding me. She really wanted to get off I guess. 2 minutes later she collapses onto me in a heap of sweat. Think she liked it. And we coddle and kiss for about an hour. She has tears in her eyes. And knows I have to work in a couple hours. So she tells me she is going to go. It is be now 7. 30 I get up while she is getting ready to leave. I am handing her 5k for the night and she refuses to take it. I am shocked. She knows I am leaving the next day and askes me to see her after my work. We exchange numbers. I think she really wanted to spend the day with me. As she walked out I force her to take the money.
I go to sleep for a cople of hours. Wake up get my work done. Go to annies and have a soapy with 36. I like her naughty look. Into the tub for the soapy BBBJ action, then on to the bed for massage and round 2. I eat he out and she sucks me off agan. I am fine with ths bcause now I am cumming for the 6t time in 24 hours. I am spent. Later in the evenig drop by shark and say good by to my dear who ater exhanging numbers calleed my 8 times. She was so happy when I walked in. And was tearing while sitting next to me. I gave paid her barfine for the night plus gave her 2000 and left with the promise to keep in touch. I'm not so sure if that is a good idea.
Annies girl
36.
Look 7. 5/10.
Body 8. 5/10.
BBBJ 8/10.
Attitude 9/10.
Soapy massage 6. 5/10 my last soapy at annies setthe bar at 10/10.
My girl.
Look 8/10 cute. Not beautiful but cute.
Body 8/10 to nice and tight could have had slightly bigger tits. And I prefer smaller tits.
Attitude 9. 5/10 I guess she was over eager with the calling after.
Sex 10/10 making love as opposed to sex.
Bangkok trip sucess
This was a long report I'm sorry. And very crass. I'm sorry. I'm normally more poetic thank matter of fact. But I'm in a rush.
Adios till next time.
I hope the rainbow 2, 3.4 change attitude. I'm a big spender. So don't pigeon hole races. And fuck you for now rainbow management.
Ill give them 1 more chance on my next visit.
Finallly I'm tempted by lady boys. Not because I'm tempted by lady boys, but because I saw some who were serioualy beautiful women. That doesn't make me gay right. Anyway I'm not that adventurous.
Stay safe and play safe.
Kkreeac
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1414234]Agreed Tony. The attitudes in BKK have become awful over the past 10 years. Yes, the women over here are far prettier, but they take materialism to an entirely new level. They only "warm" up when they think it will get them somewhere, and it is not just us Farangs that have to deal with this. The Thais dudes do as well.
In the West you will find a woman who will contribute more than her snatch to the relationship.
Vince, if and when you go out on a date with a gal here ask her what she is bringing to table besides sex. Most of us are bringing an estate of some value, and hey, I am not going to take care of a gal. Why should I? Renting is fine, but to join in a union with a gal who has nothing and will bleed ya dry is she can. No thanks![/QUOTE]Right on! Although if you want materialism in spades, hang with a few VN ladies for a while.
Whenever anybody mentions "relationships" with BGs, I always ask the same thing. What do they bring to the party? A pretty body and companionship are nice, but if that's all, it's going to wear thin rather quickly. Personally, I gave up on that nonsense a couple of years ago and started associating with middle class ladies. What a world of difference. Education, English fluency (relatively speaking) , a "real" job, their own money, good families that don't consider a farang a walking ATM. What's not to like? The advantages over their Western sisters, IMHO, are generally better looks and more "feminine" behavior. Most guys like women to be women, not men with boobs.
BGs are fine, in the proper context. But why would anyone wish to hang around one every day?
[quote=tony hoeprano; 1414230]i don't agree with your assessment on western women! the only difference is asian women tend not to be nearly as fat and ugly, but as far as being cold and arrogant, i don't think there's any difference between the two groups. on a brief visit back to my home, i was exiting walgreen's and a black lady smiled and complimented me on my shirt. how often does one get that in non p4p venues in thailand? i'll tell you what fella, try a little experiment and attend a classy joint void of any p4p overtones, go up to high class girls (hell they can be middle class too) and say"hi i like you. you lub me? want come my loom?" and tell me how warm and welcoming thai girls are hahaha.
on a different note, i was in the silom area the other day decided grab a bite to eat at carl's jr. i thought this was the strangest place in all of bkk to put a burger joint in the middle of a little tokyo rld, but whatever. lol the ideal spot to sit is at the window in front and you can look at the hustle and bustle outside, and of course see the girls with their new boyfriend in tow, many nice girls here, does anyone know the price? i finish eating a carl's catch fish sandwich (highly recommended!) and decide to get a blowjob at star of light nearby, which had some excellent review. i find it and there's a few girls outside, very average looking (to put it kindly) and i open the door and walk in and was met by an awful smell, holy shit it was putrid! the room was decrepit and there was a cum bucket on the floor nearby. i peeked around the corner and some very average looking girls sitting on the couch with a blanket, they said you want blow job? it was grimy as hell and made a nana short time room look like the bellagio in las vegas hahaha. i said, no thanks and left.[/quote]you should have tried! its not a resort, they are not all beauties, but the girls definitely know their job and that on a world class level.
mike
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1414234]Yes, the women over here are far prettier, but they take materialism to an entirely new level. They only "warm" up when they think it will get them somewhere, and it is not just us Farangs that have to deal with this. The Thais dudes do as well.
In the West you will find a woman who will contribute more than her snatch to the relationship.[/QUOTE]
True with bargirls, but blatant materialism is hardly a characteristic of regular Thai girls... unless you position yourself as a sponsor (a situation a much higher percentage of Thai girls than Western girls are willing to seek).
For those who speak some Thai, look for a regular Thai GF of similar age and class, try to be presentable, and don't throw silly money around, I find Thai girls less materialistic than those in the west. Of course, if you hook up with a girl from a poor background who's looking for any and all Farang they can get as a meal ticket... you get exactly that. Many Farang go for this, and it's not a bad deal for some. Another category of materialistic girls are the trophy women looking for a sponsor (most Thais go for this type and complain).
Outside of these two categories there are plenty of decent middle-class girls, who don't see their snatch / looks as their most valuable resource / skill. They have plenty to contribute to a relationship, including paying part of the expenses (although no woman actually likes a poor/stingy BF, so the guy still pays ~70% especially if his salary is higher).
I think the skewed impression of Thai girls comes from the fact that most girls actively looking for Farang are in the materialistic category. The truly good Thai girls are not averse to a relationship with a Farang (we have both pros and cons), but don't specifically seek us out, it takes some work to get to them, and they tend to want a generally good, reliable guy (usually that excludes tourists, and for expats speaking Thai is a big plus, even if they do speak English).
Most women in the West (USA specifically) seem to just want their 'gina itch scratched, steady, reliable guys don't do well at all (ignored until it's time to trap the sucker for marriage). They'd rather be screwing a bad boys who give them instant tingles until they're well in their 30s.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1414489]True with bargirls, but blatant materialism is hardly a characteristic of regular Thai girls. Unless you position yourself as a sponsor (a situation a much higher percentage of Thai girls than Western girls are willing to seek).
For those who speak some Thai, look for a regular Thai GF of similar age and class, try to be presentable, and don't throw silly money around, I find Thai girls less materialistic than those in the west. Of course, if you hook up with a girl from a poor background who's looking for any and all Farang they can get as a meal ticket. You get exactly that. Many Farang go for this, and it's not a bad deal for some. Another category of materialistic girls are the trophy women looking for a sponsor (most Thais go for this type and complain).
Outside of these two categories there are plenty of decent middle-class girls, who don't see their snatch / looks as their most valuable resource / skill. They have plenty to contribute to a relationship, including paying part of the expenses (although no woman actually likes a poor / stingy BF, so the guy still pays 70% especially if his salary is higher).
I think the skewed impression of Thai girls comes from the fact that most girls actively looking for Farang are in the materialistic category. The truly good Thai girls are not averse to a relationship with a Farang (we have both pros and cons) , but don't specifically seek us out, it takes some work to get to them, and they tend to want a generally good, reliable guy (usually that excludes tourists, and for expats speaking Thai is a big plus, even if they do speak English).
Most women in the West (USA specifically) seem to just want their 'gina itch scratched, steady, reliable guys don't do well at all (ignored until it's time to trap the sucker for marriage). They'd rather be screwing a bad boys who give them instant tingles until they're well in their 30s.[/QUOTE]Materialism and Envy are the #1 things in the girls I have met. Especially in BKK off the dating sites. The envy thing is huge I think. They go on Facebook and try to outdo each other with their photos and comments.
Yes, some bring salary to the table. But it sure as shit is not much compared to what many of us make.
Bottom line it is all about them taking care of themselves and their families. They want your money and you (farang) and your family play second fiddle.
I would never marry a Thai girl.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1414495]Materialism and Envy are the #1 things in the girls I have met. Especially in BKK off the dating sites. The envy thing is huge I think. They go on Facebook and try to outdo each other with their photos and comments.
Yes, some bring salary to the table. But it sure as shit is not much compared to what many of us make.
Bottom line it is all about them taking care of themselves and their families. They want your money and you (farang) and your family play second fiddle.
I would never marry a Thai girl.[/QUOTE]You are clearly not hanging out with mainstream Thai women. Which is fine, if that's what you choose. No criticism here, but don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and moan when low class women exhibit low class tendencies.
In the last couple of years I have met several mainstream, middle-class Thai ladies. Absolutely ZERO of their families would even consider accepting (let alone asking) money from an outsider. And absolutely ZERO of these ladies would allow some deadbeat shirttail relative to sponge off their BF.
BTW, any Thai girl on a dating site that will jump into bed with a farang she just met is not mainstream. She's done that sort of thing many times before. The women who interest me are in their late 30s. Early 40s. I have been very surprised at how few boyfriends these women have had in their lives.
Yes, their salaries are lower than western salaries, but that's not a fair comparison. The fact that they have a good job and a good, by Thai standards, salary, speaks volumes about their work ethic and character.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1414503]You are clearly not hanging out with mainstream Thai women. Which is fine, if that's what you choose. No criticism here, but don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and moan when low class women exhibit low class tendencies.
In the last couple of years I have met several mainstream, middle-class Thai ladies. Absolutely ZERO of their families would even consider accepting (let alone asking) money from an outsider. And absolutely ZERO of these ladies would allow some deadbeat shirttail relative to sponge off their BF.
BTW, any Thai girl on a dating site that will jump into bed with a farang she just met is not mainstream. She's done that sort of thing many times before. The women who interest me are in their late 30s. Early 40s. I have been very surprised at how few boyfriends these women have had in their lives.
Yes, their salaries are lower than western salaries, but that's not a fair comparison. The fact that they have a good job and a good, by Thai standards, salary, speaks volumes about their work ethic and character.[/QUOTE]Sorry dude, you are wrong in my case.
These are women who work for major corporations, have cars, and apts.
Which is why they are materialistic. Because they have had a taste of it and want more.
But these girls are attractive and successful.
You meet girls in their 30's and 40's who have rarely had a BF? You don't know much about Thai culture and are extremely naive if you believe that. But if it is true, I guess yours must be pretty homely and unattractive. But hey, they have a good work ethic so you are happy I guess.
Yes I agree, many of those desperate ones for you to find in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1414503]You are clearly not hanging out with mainstream Thai women. Which is fine, if that's what you choose. No criticism here, but don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and moan when low class women exhibit low class tendencies.
In the last couple of years I have met several mainstream, middle-class Thai ladies. Absolutely ZERO of their families would even consider accepting (let alone asking) money from an outsider. And absolutely ZERO of these ladies would allow some deadbeat shirttail relative to sponge off their BF.
BTW, any Thai girl on a dating site that will jump into bed with a farang she just met is not mainstream. She's done that sort of thing many times before. The women who interest me are in their late 30s. Early 40s. I have been very surprised at how few boyfriends these women have had in their lives.
Yes, their salaries are lower than western salaries, but that's not a fair comparison. The fact that they have a good job and a good, by Thai standards, salary, speaks volumes about their work ethic and character.[/QUOTE]It'a way too simplistic to catoragise women into low class high class mainstream and whatever the opposite of that is. It is not black or white. Generally speaking most Thai girls not all I agree that are in the P4P life don't have many options unless they want to work for minimum wage and even then they need a high school education which not all of them have. Even graduate level can expect no more than 15, 000 starting. Consequently wanting to meet a farang who will take care of them and their family while it can be considered as exploiting the farang equally I know of several situations where this works perfectly well for both parties particularly where the girl and her family are nice people and greatly appreciate the help they are getting. Mostly when things go wrong the problem I believe lies in the innate cultural differences between East and West. Relationships and this is true for all social strata begin to flounder when both parties discover they really have nothing in common. I despair when I constantly read "they are only after your money". Sure that's part of the equation but only because you are the one with the money and they are the one without and if getting paid for sex is what they do and paying for sex is what we do then of course money is central but they are not all cold hearted Jezebels with a mean streak. That said the vast majority of single Thai women whether "mainstream' 'or not while they may not openly ask for such will gladly accept gifts and if truth be told will expect them.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1414292]The Thai girls at 7-11 think your shirt is nice, but can speak the English words to tell you.
Carl's? Where is it I love that place.
SOL. That is what makes it a great and different experience for me. The filth, smell and grit. Not for everyone I guess.[/QUOTE]Two in BKK. One on Soi 24, its attached to a hotel, I think Davis Hotel. Other one is at Soi Thaniya right by Sala Daeng BTS.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1414292]SOL. That is what makes it a great and different experience for me. The filth, smell and grit. .[/QUOTE]Rather like one of those dark, grimy saloons that Clint Eastwood strolls into on a high desert plain.
I must admit, I'm tempted!
I take offence to being called a pimp daddy. All my stories are P4P. I offer them a 7 baht bottle of water before they come up in my room and blow me.
One thing is for sure, it appears that there are as many opinions on what a "mainstream" Thai woman is as there are people on this board with assholes. As for my experience a mainstream Thai woman has been a woman with a non-sex industry job who is not after your money and does not ask for or accept financial help from a man. She offers to pay for some things when you go out together. She is not materialistic and has not had many boyfriends. Just because they didn't jump into bed with YOU right away does not mean they will not do it with another guy. And just because she does it with another guy does not mean she has done it many times before. A lot of times it has to do with a type of timing that you can neither predict nor control. You just have to chalk it up to being in the right place at the right time when the stars decided to align.
Case in point: I met a chick from tagged a couple of years ago. She was educated and had a job. We met in Carrefour and ate lunch at Subway. After that I called her a couple of times and it seemed she was brushing me off. I stopped trying and I never heard back from her, so I figured she didn't like me. Everybody is not going to like everybody. No harm, no foul.
In the middle of last month I was eating breakfast at my usual spot. A girl eating alone, two tables in front of me, looked like her but I could not be sure. I mouthed to her,"Why you never call me?" She didn't understand and called me over to her table. I had to remind her who I was. I wanted to get back to my breakfast so I told her to call me later. She gave me her basic-ass, unmaterialistic cell phone and told me to put my number into it. I typed the number and gave it back to her. She said,"Oh, your number is already in my phone." Damn from that long ago?
That afternoon she started texting me and I told her to come over. We went back and forth with her asking why I wanted her to come over bla bla bla. She finally came. We chatted for a minute then both got in the bed for a nap. Next thing you know we were fucking like rabbits. We went to sleep, woke up about 8pm, and went outside to our bikes. I told her that I wanted her to come eat with me. She left her bike and we went and ate. We came back and she got on her bike and went home.
That is just one story out of countless. Another girl who I met in a disco came over when she got off work the day after I met her. She was educated and worked in her family's business. I wouldn't be surprised if she had been a virgin before. We had a good time fucking and afterwards she told me she wanted me to teach her things about sex. Aside from this she also wanted to be my girlfriend. I told her that I didn't want a girlfriend. She literally cried and begged and pleaded but I'm not into deceiving anybody. She moved back to Bangkok and soon married an African guy who plays soccer there. They just had a baby two weeks ago. She is very faithful to her man. Whenever I mention naughty things she says she loves her husband and that I did not want her when she was throwing herself at me.
They are all Thai women, but it seems like each Tom, Dick, and Harry on this board is having personal experiences with them that are constant to only themselves and not necessarily experienced by others. Or maybe it is only our expectation and perception that is varying from person to person and causing a particular outcome specific to only ourselves.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1414508]Sorry dude, you are wrong in my case.
These are women who work for major corporations, have cars, and apts.
Which is why they are materialistic. Because they have had a taste of it and want more.
But these girls are attractive and successful.
You meet girls in their 30's and 40's who have rarely had a BF? You don't know much about Thai culture and are extremely naive if you believe that. But if it is true, I guess yours must be pretty homely and unattractive. But hey, they have a good work ethic so you are happy I guess.
Yes I agree, many of those desperate ones for you to find in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Hmm. 500 baht bareback Nana streetwalkers who are attractive and successful? I find that hard to believe. LOL. Methinks your cheap bareback streetwalkers define desperate, no? :D
I will say, unequivocally, that a Thai woman who has had a lot of experience with bonking farang is rarely suitable for a mate, whether or not money was exchanged for the sex. So, if those are who you're hanging with, then your observations about not marrying a Thai girls are correct.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1414581]One thing is for sure, it appears that there are as many opinions on what a "mainstream" Thai woman is as there are people on this board with assholes. As for my experience a mainstream Thai woman has been a woman with a non-sex industry job who is not after your money and does not ask for or accept financial help from a man. She offers to pay for some things when you go out together. She is not materialistic and has not had many boyfriends. Just because they didn't jump into bed with YOU right away does not mean they will not do it with another guy. And just because she does it with another guy does not mean she has done it many times before. A lot of times it has to do with a type of timing that you can neither predict nor control. You just have to chalk it up to being in the right place at the right time when the stars decided to align.[/QUOTE]Your points are very accurate. And I realize there are vast cultural differences between West and East. The Eastern culture uses money in a much different way than the Western. Much of this stems from when women had no real economic opportunities in a strongly male-dominated society.
Now I never said my experiences were reflective of all Thai women, mainstream or otherwise, just as the actions of a bar girl don't represent all Thai women. But, I know what I've seen. As Mr. Goat pointed out in what started this discussion, you have to ask what she brings to the party. So, I was looking for women in that particular age bracket (still young enough to be attractive but not so young that they look like my daughter) , with an education and a career. Sure there are women in that age bracket who are financially successful, and promiscuous. But I do not believe that they are in the majority. Not just based upon my experience, but from what I understand of the culture and religion.
But the overall point I was making was that guys who constantly complain that all Thai women have their hand out, or have relatives who have their hands out, are plainly dealing with some very low class people. Even people with money can be low class (Look at Yingluck!) I have yet to experience that with any of the middle-class Thai ladies I know, and I don't expect it to ever happen. So, if you're tired of ladies who are always demanding money or gold, or who expect you to provide for every relative who wanders into the house, you need to look at a different class of ladies. That's all I'm saying.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1414526]Now for the doom and gloomer! If you want to have fun with prostitutes you cannot assume you are better than them- you are not! So they only have grade school edukation, tha doesn't make them inferior to you. I bet the girls bad attitude you encounter have a lot to do with the condescending attitutde you may give off.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. I've always had good times with BGs, and it's as you say: you don't look down on them and treat them like humans and not pieces of meat.
Having said that, I finally got bored with them. This last trip I had some free time and visited some BGs in Nana and Patpong, including a long-time fave at Pink Panther. The problem was, after about 30 seconds, we were out of things to say, except for my fave because we can discuss old times. I'm tired of "Where you flom," "How many baby." No criticism of the girls, it's the way it is. They have minimal education and it's hard to find a BG who can carry on an intelligent conversation. I've found them, they're just rare.
So, a BG can be a lot of fun, and some can even provide a good bedroom experience. But marrying one? Guys who do deserve what they get.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1414560]I take offence to being called a pimp daddy. All my stories are P4P. I offer them a 7 baht bottle of water before they come up in my room and blow me.[/QUOTE]That is generous. I believe you take the empty bottle back to get the empty refund, do you?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1414526]Phordphan and the 'puss. Which gives a more acurate description of thai girls. LOL.
I got to go with phordphan.
After seeing the girls Luvpuss goes for I doubt he is hanging with mainstream thai girls. LOL.
Now for the doom and gloomer! If you want to have fun with prostitutes you cannot assume you are better than them- you are not! So they only have grade school edukation, tha doesn't make them inferior to you. I bet the girls bad attitude you encounter have a lot to do with the condescending attitutde you may give off.[/QUOTE]Harold, I am all for having a good sesh with a working girl, but a relationship? Nah. And no the attitudes are already there and getting worse, along with the looks. Again, the economy is such that any gal with half a brain and a so-so work ethic can support herself without wh*ring. Most women will take 20k legit over 50+k wh*ring.
Never said they were "inferior." You are putting words in my mouth. I said, most bring little to the table. Sex is not enough when it comes to a relationship, especially when they expect you to take care of their parasitic family. There are lots of gals out there in their early to mid-30s with degrees and who are not looking for a host to support their families.
13 years ago most all working girls were looking for a husband. Methinks that the lookers these days want nothing of the sort. They are making loads of cash from their johns and many have dudes sending them lots of money from overseas. Amazing how daft some of these guys are.
Asian guys get it; working girls are working girls and that is great, but you don't marry one. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
I treat working girls well and expect the same in return. Unfortunately that reciprocation is getting harder to find. I am amazed at how rude many gals are in gogo bars these days. They pull stuff they would never attempt on a Thai guy. Listen to them talking (if you know a little Thai and Isaan it helps) and you will see how little they think about most of their customers. It is all "buy me drink, pay bar, or I go."
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1414520]It'a way too simplistic to catoragise women into low class high class mainstream and whatever the opposite of that is. It is not black or white. Generally speaking most Thai girls not all I agree that are in the P4P life don't have many options unless they want to work for minimum wage and even then they need a high school education which not all of them have. Even graduate level can expect no more than 15, 000 starting. Consequently wanting to meet a farang who will take care of them and their family while it can be considered as exploiting the farang equally I know of several situations where this works perfectly well for both parties particularly where the girl and her family are nice people and greatly appreciate the help they are getting. Mostly when things go wrong the problem I believe lies in the innate cultural differences between East and West. Relationships and this is true for all social strata begin to flounder when both parties discover they really have nothing in common. I despair when I constantly read "they are only after your money". Sure that's part of the equation but only because you are the one with the money and they are the one without and if getting paid for sex is what they do and paying for sex is what we do then of course money is central but they are not all cold hearted Jezebels with a mean streak. That said the vast majority of single Thai women whether "mainstream' 'or not while they may not openly ask for such will gladly accept gifts and if truth be told will expect them.[/QUOTE]15k baht is the low end these days and if a Uni grad hooks up with a Thai guy who is a recent grad and he is making 20k or so, they have plenty to support themselves and purchase a started condo.
I would say that cultural differences do make a difference but socio-economic class differences cause as many problems. Coming from a similar class helps a relationship along. No doubt.
Like you, I know several couples who fit your above description, but they are in the minority.
About money, remove it from the equation and then what do you have? Yes, some will stay with you if you fall on hard times, but still, I think they are in the minority. Given equal circumstances most all Thai women would rather have a relationship with someone from their own culture. Truth be told, sometimes I would as well, especially when it comes to the issue of language. I know some very fluent English speaking Thais (where English is the second language) , and no matter how fluent they are they still lack the ability to pick subtleties, humor, sarcasm, etc. Contrast that to a friend who has a highly educated gal from the 'Pines who gets and can make jokes, and you can take her to an art house film and discuss it with her afterwards. So yes, having things in common is important, and some of those things I would like to have in common with a gal here are really very difficult to find.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1414614]That is generous. I believe you take the bottle back to get the empty refund, do you?[/QUOTE]Nay he's a lot more generous than you give him credit for. I'm sure he gives her the bottle to get the refund.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1414600]Completely agree. I've always had good times with BGs, and it's as you say: you don't look down on them and treat them like humans and not pieces of meat.The problem was, after about 30 seconds, we were out of things to say, except for my fave because we can discuss old times. I'm tired of "Where you flom," "How many baby." No criticism of the girls, it's the way it is. They have minimal education and it's hard to find a BG who can carry on an intelligent conversation. I've found them, they're just rare.[/QUOTE]That is when ST comes to help.
I am not a big lover of ST but on the other hand, LT eventually includes some sort of talking and that is when one gets bored. Conversations at the bar can still keep a certain pace, with jokes, sort of flirting tocheck the chemistry, a bit of fun etc. But once in the room. Even if one does not want to elaborate the world economy some sort of talks have to take place.
Is that the reason why girls switch on TV and watch it, to avoid the need of talking (as they can't)?
[QUOTE=Kkreeac; 1414314]Ok since I know this report is going to be lost into the black hole that is any of the Thailand threads I'm going to make it short and sweet. Maybe not sweet. You be the judge of that.
Day 1.
Landed at noon on the 19th and got to my hotel Citadines on soi 23 at about 2. Took what was supposed to be a short nap. Got up at 7. Oops there goes my late afternoon session. Fuck that was a bad start. Get up and change and head to nana plaza. Have a couple of drinks at stumble inn, with the company of a lady. She was nice but I'd say a 6/10. Then head into the soi. I had a list made up of the places I'd go to. Got it from another website by a guy who does a great short review of nights in Bangkok if you were to do it on a red eye, and has a blog about guest friendly hotels. Thanks buddy. Entering the plaza to the right walked up one level. Mandarin 1 and 2. Waste of time. Up another floor. Nobody in carnival. Back down a floor and around to dc10. Guy seems to not let me in. I don't bother. Stick my head into spankys and angel witch nothing of interest. Go back up and look into billboard. Girls in tub but nothing looking hot. Lasvegas is closed. All the way down. To playschool. I like the place. Have a couple of beers, girls best here so far. Then to rainbow 1. Not allowed in. Members. WTF. Ok I move to lollypop, no interest. Then red lips, and pretty lady, a beer there each. Not bad but not great. Now the rounds are done and I can go to the top on the list to pick up some nice ladies. Ohh yeah holly word was night if I remember correctly. I go to rainbow 2 not let in. Members. So walk up to rainbow 4. Members. Ok now I'm a little fucking annoyed with these thai guy mother fucking racist bouncers. I can be racist too you useless pricks. (I'm indian by the way) I was so hoping to pick up a girl from rainbow 4 or 2 which I remember from my last trip were the best places to go in nana. Fuck it. I always thought soi cowboy was better in terms of atmosphere and girls. And never feltany racism there.
Head to soi cowboy with one of the few honest meter going taxi drivers in BKK. On the main road side now. Make my way to long gun, and raw hide. A beer in each, then to de javu. I like this place. But there is still tilac and baccara which are my favorites. Get to cowboy 2. Worst bar on earth. But I am drunk and the mamasan drags me in. Long story short I have another 10 beers there mayhbe and but the whole place drinks and dance on the stage, and smoke indoors. Basically fuck myself. Bill is 16, 000 its not wrong I really was that stupid. So much for taking a girl home that night. The ugly mamsan is so drunk too she is trying t stick her tongue down my throat and I am pushing her away. She want to come home with me. 500 bhat. I would not do this woman if you gave me a million dollars. Stumble out but some chicken and rice which tastes like heaven walked home and got my sorry ass into bed. Fuck 17 hours in BKK and not 1 lay.
I hope the rainbow 2, 3.4 change attitude. I'm a big spender. So don't pigeon hole races. And fuck you for now rainbow management.
Ill give them 1 more chance on my next visit.
Finallly I'm tempted by lady boys. Not because I'm tempted by lady boys, but because I saw some who were serioualy beautiful women. That doesn't make me gay right. Anyway I'm not that adventurous.
Stay safe and play safe.
Kkreeac[/QUOTE]So it seems gogo bars are definitely getting to be off limits for Indians (read my report. One page back). Though Baccara didn't deny entry, the good service and the smiles from the best girls were reserved for the Japanese clients. The Pattaya syndrome (of walking street gogo's denying entry to Indians) coming to Bangkok as well now. Sigh. Guess it is better to pick up FL's from discos etc than from gogo's. Thanks for the report BTW.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1414616]13 years ago most all working girls were looking for a husband. Methinks that the lookers these days want nothing of the sort. They are making loads of cash from their johns and many have dudes sending them lots of money from overseas. Amazing how daft some of these guys are.[/QUOTE]It is truly amazing. I just got this email from a wingman (I added what is in parentheses) :
"Dude, her friend (mamasan) in Halo has somebody sending money already. Wasn't even 3 days later (from when the boyfriend (who had been sending money) broke up with her). These guys are rich. I want to know where they work and what they do."
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1414586]Hmm. 500 baht bareback Nana streetwalkers who are attractive and successful? I find that hard to believe. LOL. Methinks your cheap bareback streetwalkers define desperate, no? .
I will say, unequivocally, that a Thai woman who has had a lot of experience with bonking farang is rarely suitable for a mate, whether or not money was exchanged for the sex. So, if those are who you're hanging with, then your observations about not marrying a Thai girls are correct.[/QUOTE]You can attack the street workers if you want. They happen to be some of the nicest girls I have met in Thailand. Most have families and are just trying to make a living. I also find that they speak much better English than an office worker.
The Nana SW usually run 1000 B, not 500. But I know you would not know about that because you stick to the 40 year old dough faced office workers. That is fine for you.
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[QUOTE=Kkreeac; 1414314]Ok since I know this report is going to be lost into the black hole that is any of the Thailand threads I'm going to make it short and sweet. Maybe not sweet. You be the judge of that.
Day 1.[/QUOTE]Nice report, thank you. I find the Eden information especially interesting, current Eden reviews do not come along often here.
[QUOTE=Kkreeac;1414314]Later realised that there is a deal. 2 girls for 2500.[/QUOTE]Can you give more details on the 2 for 2500 deal? Is it for a shorter time period than the normal deal, any limits on which girls you can choose etc?
Hmmm, the website says "service for the couple" is B2500, I am guessing this means if you bring your own lady you can get a single Eden girl to join you for 2500. Is this the deal you are referring to?
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[QUOTE=Harold444;1414809]But please stop saying there are 8s or 9s to be found.[/QUOTE]A numeric rating of a SW is meaningless without context. What is a 1 and what is a 10? Is the 10 comparable to the winner of the 2012 Miss Universe title? Or is a 10 the best looking girl you're likely to find in a Bangkok MP? This is an issue in measurement theory, a branch of applied mathematics. To have a useful equal interval scale (such as a 1 to 10 rating scale of physical appearance) it is minimally necessary to define the end points of the scale, and preferably the midpoint as well: a 1 looks like this; a 5 looks like this; a 10 looks like this. In the absence of these anchors all you can conclude is that an 8 is more attractive than a 4. In the absence of context my 8 may be too unattractive to meet your minimal standard for a woman worth fucking.
Rating the beauty of a woman is compounded by cultural differences and personal preferences. A bubble butt is a very desirable feature on a woman in some cultures, and some woman in these culture will have butt augmentations. Personally I like a woman with a smaller and firm ass. But when you read the previous sentence are you certain you know what I mean by a smaller ass? A woman another man describes as having a gorgeous bubble butt I might think has a grossly fat ass. A woman I think has a nice sized firm ass the next man may think has a skinny ass not worth fucking.
I've rarely seen a woman in one of the beer bars that I would rate higher than a 6. But a man who procured his ladies exclusively from beer bars might look at a group of ladies I think are all bunch of 4s and rate some of them as a 4 others as a 6 and some as an 8. Perhaps he's more experienced at judging women who fall within a certain range of beauty and is able to make fine discrimination. Maybe 8s are to be found in a Bangkok beer bar, but because I spend very little time in beer bars I don't have enough opportunities to run into the occasional 8.
I find it most useful when a report describes the woman and how hot the guy found her: "she was pretty hot, kind of short, an okay face, good sized tits and nice big ass." Better yet is when a report says,"She actually looks better than her picture on the website." An 8 tells me next to nothing. What does it mean? That she looks like one of the women who didn't make it beyond the regional competitions for the Miss Colombia title? I have a buddy who occasionally sees a lady in her mid-twenties in Medellin. I couple of years ago she was a regional finalist for Miss Colombia. I'd describe her as a drop dead gorgeous young lady with fantastic boobs and an ass to die for. But perhaps the fact that she didn't have a nice big bubble butt kept her from advancing to the finals.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1414995]Hotel 2 minutes fromm NEP for 17, 000 for 30 days. Recp. Gave me 1000 discount due to no window when I mentioned I wanted one. LOL.
Best wif-fi since my return to BKK the last 10 months. Can watch japanes porn, and MLB baseball and NBA basketball.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good bargain. However, that particular hotel also doubles as a short term hotel, right?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1414733]1. You are being kinda racist thinking taxi drivers are scammers. Most I've dealt w. No problem.
4. 16, 000 for 10 drinks. No wonder mamasan want deep throat you. Those arab bars may have a concept that works fine and dandy. There always new ones coming to town, like barnum and bailey said. Might as well take advantage of them.[/QUOTE]There was no need to quote the whole post.
[QUOTE=Mangoes;1414637]So it seems gogo bars are definitely getting to be off limits for Indians (read my report. One page back). Though Baccara didn't deny entry, the good service and the smiles from the best girls were reserved for the Japanese clients. The Pattaya syndrome (of walking street gogo's denying entry to Indians) coming to Bangkok as well now. Sigh. Guess it is better to pick up FL's from discos etc than from gogo's. Thanks for the report BTW.[/QUOTE]By the way the guy behaved no wonder why some guys get a no-no to enter a place.
The one that welcomed him sucked him hell of a lot of money for a few beers. No wonder!
[QUOTE=Mangoes;1414637]So it seems gogo bars are definitely getting to be off limits for Indians (read my report. One page back). Though Baccara didn't deny entry, the good service and the smiles from the best girls were reserved for the Japanese clients. The Pattaya syndrome (of walking street gogo's denying entry to Indians) coming to Bangkok as well now. Sigh. Guess it is better to pick up FL's from discos etc than from gogo's. Thanks for the report BTW.[/QUOTE]To be honest like my last time in BKK I have never had a race problem in soi cowboy. I failed to mention that before I re-met the girl from shark I did go to baccara again, and there were lots of pretty ladies, and quite a few did approach me. The night I went before I figure all the good ones had left. But I have not experienced problems with approaching and being approached by women at all in soi cowboy.
Bionicman. I am not a ****. I knew exactly how much money I have and how much I could afford to spend. And yes I had a few beers, but no they charged me for the 3 bottles of whiskey I opened, thats where the price came from. Also I do not act obnoxiously in any place I go to. And everywhere I've been has always welcomed me back regardless of my spending. And just because you have 4000+ posts doesn't mean everyone but you is a ****. I personally think you are an ass for insinuating that my behavior is the reason indians are not allowed in. My take on the situation is that majority of indians come to watch with one beer as opposed to take out. Which is why they are not the preferred clientele.
Finally to the other guy who said I was being racist about thai taxi drivers. I wasnt. I think the majority of taxi drivers the world over are cheats. Thats just how things are. In BKK after 11 I found that very very few turn on the meter. I was lucky enough that the first one I got into did turn it on. Which is contrary to my other late night experiences with taxi's in BKK.
To sum up. If you are indian soi cowboy is friendlier. And in my opinion has a better vibe and better looking women. Don't be phased. Just be decent, and good will happen to you. But if you are one of the smelly indians who don't buy drinks (if you can fly to BKK, you can afford proper deodorant and cologne). Might as well stay home because you are ruining our reputation abroad.
On a final note. Aside from the prices I paid. Looking at the average st and lt prices, I think BKK is starting to rival other western countries. Time to seek out Yangon and Vietnam. Or the cheap eastern european girls in london.
Till next time I hope everyone enjoys BKK.
Stay safe and play safe.
Kkreeac
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[quote=lotus303; 1403530]well said. but i bet ecunter would love some butter in his buttocks, sound like a kinky thang, ok lets get freaky flunky!
patpong or should that read pisspong.
went to meet a client this evening in silom, so have our meeting i head over to patpong, omg! how dire is this place now. it was like backpackers v's koreans, i mean that is all i saw. first stop was sol, but no frigging way, the lovely lassies outside were all eating somtam, so no way was i getting fire dick, so went to a cheeky little soapy i know round the corner called tanika (or something like that) not far from rose bar. went upstairs and saw a lovely choice of fine fillies.
been here many times and always paid 1000 baht for 90 minutes full hardcore fun. it must have new management as they quoted be 2, 000 which i said mai dai. trick is to get up and walk away, but they soon say "ok, wot you pay" just type 1000 baht into their little calculator and off you go with a lady of your choice, oh before you gop to the room, she chants something in thai and hits a wooded cock on a bell, then all the other girs says something, very weird indeed. this place was on a youtube video with same yippon dude that captured [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], sol and dr big jock with his little specs camera, naughty naughty yippon! lol!
now, this place kick annies for quality and price. i mean its the same routine as there but half the price. started of with a nice all over soapie massage, tits in my ass, tits in my face, tits everywhere. after that into the tub for a nice gentle massage, teasing little minx got me so hard. off to the bed for another massage and bbbj. 69, a lot and i mean a lot of ass munching was going on here, both me and her. wowzerrs! then on with jonnie and wham bam thank you mam.
tipped her 500 baht as it was a dam good 90 minutes. total cost was 1000 baht for mamasan. 100 baht for my sprite and 500 baht for her, total 1600 baht and left have very happy and very empty guy. patpong is really a sad place now, but hey, in the words of big arnie " i'll be back!"[/quote]is this takara massage parlour which has a stairways out front?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1415485]Whta this tells me is you know darn well girls in beer bars are not hot at all. It is not a BEHOLDER thing. Always exceptions-outlyers. LOL. I f you want confirmation go to a beer bar and ask the hottest 1 you see how much for GFE, shit eating, etc.
If she starts at 1000 you know she doesn't think she hot either. LOL.
Among 3 pretty girls there might be an argument who is hottest. Among 3 ugly girls same same there might not be agreement on who is ugliest. But I bet you most men would place the 6 girls in their appropriate category.[/QUOTE]Then why do some of the guys claim they see 8s at the beer bars? Do you know what they mean by an 8? I sure don't.
Why do the MPs over on Ratchada get so much for some of the sideliners who I personally don't find any more attractive than the better looking girls in the fishbowl. As you might expect the only difference in their appearance is they have fairer skin and look a couple of years younger. We know Asian men will pay large sums of money for these young women.
On various occasions I've been with Black men who will remark that a women I think is just another overweight, average looking blonde with fair skin and blue eyes is attractive. Similarly why do they think a slender black woman I think is hot is too skinny?
Once I was in a bar with a buddy who is Middle Eastern. A drunk lady who I thought was damn ugly came on to me. I ignored her. She started talking to my buddy and suggested the three of us go to her place for a threesome. My buddy started to pester me to go because she had large hanging breasts and large eyes that he found attractive. I didn't even notice her eyes because the rest of her face was so ugly. He later told me that because he came from a culture in which woman wear veils he was drawn to the woman's eyes. He also thought her big sagging boobs made her look very "womanly," whatever that means.
I live fairly close to a high school. I think most of the students attending it range from slightly overweight to obese. I'll sit in a Starbucks not far away and overhear students talking about someone of the opposite sex I think is just another fat teenager as being really cute.
I think there are cultural differences in what is perceived to be an attractive woman. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why I read reports in which guys claim they pick up good looking girls in beer bars. I don't see it, but who am I to tell them the women they find attractive are not when I don't even know what the woman looks like. I can only conclude we have different standards of beauty.
[quote=paul kausch; 1415077]a numeric rating of a sw is meaningless without context. what is a 1 and what is a 10? is the 10 comparable to the winner of the 2012 miss universe title? or is a 10 the best looking girl you're likely to find in a bangkok mp? this is an issue in measurement theory, a branch of applied mathematics. to have a useful equal interval scale (such as a 1 to 10 rating scale of physical appearance) it is minimally necessary to define the end points of the scale, and preferably the midpoint as well: a 1 looks like this; a 5 looks like this; a 10 looks like this. in the absence of these anchors all you can conclude is that an 8 is more attractive than a 4. in the absence of context my 8 may be too unattractive to meet your minimal standard for a woman worth fucking.
i find it most useful when a report describes the woman and how hot the guy found her: "she was pretty hot, kind of short, an okay face, good sized tits and nice big ass." better yet is when a report says,"she actually looks better than her picture on the website." an 8 tells me next to nothing. what does it mean? that she looks like one of the women who didn't make it beyond the regional competitions for the miss colombia title? i have a buddy who occasionally sees a lady in her mid-twenties in medellin. i couple of years ago she was a regional finalist for miss colombia. i'd describe her as a drop dead gorgeous young lady with fantastic boobs and an ass to die for. but perhaps the fact that she didn't have a nice big bubble butt kept her from advancing to the finals.[/quote]
bringing up some good points here. i don't think the 1-10 system can comprehensively judge a girl's beauty, it's just too narrow a range. you can say a girl who is pretty hot, but maybe a little low class or whatever and judge her an 7 or 8 at face value and that might be a fair enough grade. but match her up against auto show promo girls (just using that as an example, not absolute) and she would be outclassed by a mile. even the less hot promo girl would mop the floor of a typical 7-8 girl on the streets. and where do you class the $15 girls in cambodia and the philippines? they might be an 8 or 9 to a clown who sits all day in his dirty stinky underwear, but if you match those girls up against a hot rb or top tier freelance girl, it would be like secretariat racing a $35, 000 claimer on the first ticket of the daily double at santa anita lol.
if one has to use a numerical value on girls, emulate the beyer speed rating that does a really good job showcasing how fast a horse is on a given track. if anyone knows horse racing and the good ol daily racing form, one look at that beyer speed rating and you generally have a good idea how fast and at what stakes he / she runs at. same system should be applied to girls and is much wider a range than the standard 1-10
[quote=tony hoeprano; 1415549]bringing up some good points here. i don't think the 1-10 system can comprehensively judge a girl's beauty, it's just too narrow a range. you can say a girl who is pretty hot, but maybe a little low class or whatever and judge her an 7 or 8 at face value and that might be a fair enough grade. but match her up against auto show promo girls (just using that as an example, not absolute) and she would be outclassed by a mile. even the less hot promo girl would mop the floor of a typical 7-8 girl on the streets. and where do you class the $15 girls in cambodia and the philippines? they might be an 8 or 9 to a clown who sits all day in his dirty stinky underwear, but if you match those girls up against a hot rb or top tier freelance girl, it would be like secretariat racing a $35, 000 claimer on the first ticket of the daily double at santa anita lol.
if one has to use a numerical value on girls, emulate the beyer speed rating that does a really good job showcasing how fast a horse is on a given track. if anyone knows horse racing and the good ol daily racing form, one look at that beyer speed rating and you generally have a good idea how fast and at what stakes he / she runs at. same system should be applied to girls and is much wider a range than the standard 1-10[/quote]continuing to use measurement theory as a framework for an unnecessarily detailed analysis, what is need is a multi-dimensional scaling system. these require a bit of matrix algebra, but are not too difficult to do now that we have modern computers to perform the countless hours of simple arithmetic calculations required to manipulate large matrices in mulit-dimensional space. each attribute, face, ass, pussy, legs, stomach, tits, skin tone, would receive a rating and these would be combined to calculate an overall physical appearance rating. of course we'd want guys to see the individual components of this score so the ass lovers could hone in on these ladies, same for the tit lovers, etc. then there's the matter of performance. we'd have to evaluate her bj skills and probably apply a weighting coefficient to reflect bare versus covered, cim, cof. ideally we'd want to measure, in centimeters, how deep she swallowed cock, and collect and measure the amount of spit that drooled out of her mouth while doing this. then of course there is the fucking, both pussy and ass, independent ratings on each of the common positions; and we'd want to take the bareback dudes into consideration and again factor in covered versus bare. sluttiness is another attribute as well as the auditory quality of her squeals. and then of course there is context, which probably is largely a function of how much you had to pay. did you pick her up off the street and she only charged 500. did she come from a sukhumvit soapy or was she an expensive sideliner from ratchada. the problem is the model is pretty complicated. and i wouldn't get into whether she does ffm with lesbian action, mmf with dp, gang bangs and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url] (quantity and accuracy of her aim.) that would make it really complicated. the rating system could be created. i'd start by developing a preliminary rating form and circulate it on isg for feedback. no doubt there are things i'm missing that will be immediately obvious to the more depraved members of this forum. it might take a while to complete it on every girl a guy fucks. we'd need hundreds of guys fucking hundreds of girls and even then we wouldn't have enough data. these multivariate analyses require huge data sets to have any validity.
on the other hand, we could spend all the time we waste going through this exercise just fucking the ladies.
i've bookmarked an article on the beyer speed figure to read this weekend. i don't play the ponies so i've never heard of it. but i find this stuff interesting. helps slow down the inevitable advance of the mental decrepitude.
Since womens looks and beauty are in the eyes of the beholders and everyone have their own opinion regarding this, it is hard, if not impossible, to do a 1 to 10 women rating system in general. What is possible is to have our own personal rating system and my system works like this (I hereby declare this to be my subjective ratingsystem and this is how it works for me so no need to argue or disagree).
I devide my ratings upon location meaning if I go to Biergarden (BG) I have rather low expectation of the girls in general located on sceene in BG. If I visit Demo, one of the most exclusive hi so nightclubs in BKK and with the best looking females I ever seen in Thailand. In Other venues in BKK where I mostly do my mongering expectations will run from sth between BG and this top noche venue(and maby a tad towards Demo on the upside). My purpose with visiting the diff venues will also come into play(P4P or picking a girl into my regular fleet).
BG I specificaly use for daytime release sessions (ST and 3somes) where my main point is to just get my pipeline cleaned and serviced without any demands of GFE / PSE play whatsoever. With girls from here even I cover up. For 3somes I ofcourse need girls to participate in my pornmovie playing in my head to fulfill my darkside fantasies so a few small demands are to be had. This irritating (and also amuzing) Harold444 I notice use my 8 to 9 ratings of the girls in BG as an example for downgrading the quality of the ladies present and I have many times agreed 8 to 9's according to my system is not seen everyday in BG but they can be had. Depends also on pure luck I guess. What system Harold444 operates under (except falling in love with this exeptional Rainbow GOGO girl) I don't know and have no interest in knowing bcs that is up to him as looks and body ratings are individual. An 8 to 9 girl in my system I would probably rate down to 6-7 at Demo. So if I met the same girl I thought was a stunner according to my BG standards (comparing to the rest of the crowd, standing out from the crowd present, according to my slightly lower expectation from the place and my use of her / them) she would still be doable but nothing more.
Frequenting medium to medium plus places as Climax, Levels, Q-Bar, Infinity (earlier Insomnia) , Shock69, Mixx, Spasso and more(for LT play) my expectations runs higher. In such places I expect some good girl quality, combi of PSE/GFE and here the girl crowd mostly will find itself on a quite good level and a 8 to 9 girl here would be a 7 to 8 at Demo and then they are more than good enough to session up with.
In Demo(where my rating system is developed from when it comes to looks) you have for Thailand the most stunning beauties imaginable and moviestars, models, rich mixed babes and here they go all the way up to 10 (the real thai 10). A girl rating 5 here would be doable but then probably be a bit chubby. If seen in BG she would have atleast been rated as a 7 to 8 and in Climax a fair 6 to 7. Ofcourse in Demo girls can only be met through normal mechanisms as most girls here are well heeled.
I also have a permance ratingsystem but it works surprisingly simular to the girls rating system. In my younger mongeringyears (mostly in USA, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil) I mostly went for the 9 to 10 girls(developed back then from FHM and simular magazines and later reinvented in Thailand from Demo) back then and often in hi so places. My mongering back then viewed compensating girls for sex was for loosers LOL. Even so it was here I first experienced starfishing so in an odd way a 9 to 10 girl would in some cases run as low as 5 on the performance scale. But the 6, 7, 8 and lowside 9 girls will perform in general around 8 to 9. But lately I see the benefits by paying girls to leave as I don't want to be stringed to any attatchments except from my fleet of regular girls. I leave out one for the crowd through one pic so it is for you guys to rate her? Where do you think we met (Bangkok ofcourse)? Her data is 165cm. 47kg. 29yrs, teached to A+ level (took a while) , lets call her Som, great performer and lives close to Don Muang airport.
[quote=skogis;1415803]since womens looks and beauty are in the eyes of the beholders and everyone have their own opinion regarding this, it is hard, if not impossible, to do a 1 to 10 women rating system in general.[/quote]this is one of the points i was making.
[quote=skogis; 1415803]i divide my ratings upon location meaning if i go to biergarden (bg) i have rather low expectation of the girls in general located on scene in bg. if i visit demo, one of the most exclusive hi so nightclubs in bkk and with the best looking females i ever seen in thailand.
frequenting medium to medium plus places as climax, levels, q-bar, infinity (earlier insomnia) , shock69, mixx, spasso and more (for lt play) my expectations runs higher. in such places i expect some good girl quality, combi of pse / gfe and here the girl crowd mostly will find itself on a quite good level and a 8 to 9 girl here would be a 7 to 8 at demo and then they are more than good enough to session up with.[/quote]another point i was making, an 8 rating for biergarden is not the same as an 8 at one of the g-clubs.
[quote=skogis;1415803]i also have a performance rating system but it works surprisingly similar to the girls rating system.[/quote]i think this is interesting. i would love to learn more about it. a citation or explanation would be appreciated.
[quote=skogis;1415803]i leave out one for the crowd through one pic so it is for you guys to rate her? where do you think we met (bangkok ofcourse)? her data is 165cm. 47kg. 29yrs, teached to a+ level (took a while) , lets call her som, great performer and lives close to don muang airport.[/quote]i'd like to see her naked. it's hard to judge her age. she looks like she might be well north of 30. i could be wrong. judging by the way the dress drapes around her midsection, she may have a bit of a tummy. similarly i'd like to know if her breasts are nice and perky or sort of saggy. on your biergarden scale i'd give her a 10. on your demo scale i'd give her an 8 if her tummy is flat and tight and her breasts are nice and perky. i have no idea where you met her. because she has a classy look about her i'll guess it was not a classy place.
[QUOTE=Kkreeac;1415319]On a final note. Aside from the prices I paid. Looking at the average st and lt prices, I think BKK is starting to rival other western countries. Time to seek out Yangon and Vietnam. Or the cheap eastern european girls in london.[/QUOTE]Yep, that is exactly the point so many longterm residents have been making for awhile now. Guys I know in London and who go to the Spanish coast pay less than many of us here in BKK.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1415803]I leave out one for the crowd through one pic so it is for you guys to rate her? Where do you think we met (Bangkok ofcourse)? Her data is 165cm. 47kg. 29yrs, teached to A+ level (took a while) , lets call her Som, great performer and lives close to Don Muang airport.[/QUOTE]Thanks for having shared your thoughts. About Som, she can be from any where, biergarden included, LOL
[QUOTE=Harold444;1415903]Ex. Goatscroot is one crazy mohter f. Can't see why he living in the past. He a young guy- he should enjoy what BKK has to offer now. Not what he got 10 years ago. LOL[/QUOTE]Harold, actually I find the P4P scene in BKK now to be quite boring. Most of my friends do as well. I would imagine that most dudes who live here for 10 plus years find the scene a bit dull now. All glitz and show. Hey, but when more and more money comes into the picture that is what you get. Less for more!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1415903]Before my current fascination with the rainbow bars, I used to go look and see what the ratchada parlours had to offer. The fihsbowl girls were average at best, very few could be considered good looking. There was a noticeable difference in sideliners, if you couldn't tell the difference. Thats on you![/QUOTE]I haven't been to the Ratchada parlors often enough to claim to be an expert: Poseidon, The Lords, Colonze 2 and Emmanuella a two or three times each. I agree with you, combining all my visits most of the fishbowl girls were average, a few below average, even few above average. So yes, the distribution was skewed towards below average attractiveness. I should have chosen my words more carefully. I didn't find the sideliners to be any more attractive than the best looking fishbowl girls. Taller and fairer, yes. Attractiveness, about the same.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1415903]Funny thing is we think alike but I think you just don't want to agree with me. I get that a lot. I tell it like it is.[/QUOTE]I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you. For the most part my post was a series of personal observations and questions.
I find it interesting that while generally men agree that very attractive women are attractive and very unattractive women are unattractive, I find considerable variation in opinions of the attractiveness of the ladies in between these extremes. I think these variations may occur because we tend to be drawn to specific features. I like ladies with slender and toned bodies, especially a nice tight ass. I don't mind if the tits are small and the face is average, a 5. So I might give a super fit lady with an average face and small breasts a 7 or even an 8. Someone else may look at her and think she's a 5, at best. Take a lady who is plump but has a very pretty face. I might give her a 5 because she's on the fat side while another guy might give her a 7 or 8 because of the pretty face. What particularly intrigues me is that the men who like full figured ladies might give this lady a 9 or 10. Years ago I had an acquaintance whose wife had a pretty face but she was fat, not pleasantly plump, but F A T. He thought she was gorgeous and acknowledged he had a fetish for fat ladies. This guy was average height and weight.
Even more fascinating was a guy I used to know whose idea of foreplay was to be tied up, insulted by a very aggressive bitchy lady and thrown into a dark closet for a few hours. She'd leave, come back, drag him out of the closet, untie him, make him do all sorts of humiliating things and then she'd fuck him. He also found reruns of the original Hawaii Five O to be extremely erotic because many of the episodes contained scenes in which one of the characters was tied up. He said intermittently throughout the remainder of the episode there would be a series of scenes in which she (he said it was almost always an attractive woman) struggles to get free. He would video tape these scenes (I knew this guy back in the 80s) so he could watch them and masturbate whenever he got horny. He swore whoever was writing these episodes had to have a bondage fetish. But this is an entirely different subject. I'll save it for the first time some guy posts a report on BarBar.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1415957]Harold, actually I find the P4P scene in BKK now to be quite boring. Most of my friends do as well. I would imagine that most dudes who live here for 10 plus years find the scene a bit dull now. All glitz and show. Hey, but when more and more money comes into the picture that is what you get. Less for more![/QUOTE]Too much glitter and it is boring. A week of Soi Cowboy / Nana is enough before I get bored and go to, for example, Gullivers* to find a quiet FL office girl type.
Or watch football!
* Even the Beer Garden people watching.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1415957]Harold, actually I find the P4P scene in BKK now to be quite boring. Most of my friends do as well. I would imagine that most dudes who live here for 10 plus years find the scene a bit dull now. All glitz and show. Hey, but when more and more money comes into the picture that is what you get. Less for more![/QUOTE]Nicely put. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
It reminds me a bit of old-school porn tapes. They always had incredible cover art promising the moon. But the content was terrible. Bad lighting, weak performances, etc. The current BKK scene seems similar. Lots of hat, few cattle.
Come on guys. There us only one rating you should use. Fuckable or Not Fuckable. If she is fuckable all other criterias are out of the window. At this stage does it matter how beautiful she is, fat or skinny, tight boobs or no boobs, etc. Etc. There is no more 7 or 10 to contend with.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1416059]Come on guys. There us only one rating you should use. Fuckable or Not Fuckable. If she is fuckable all other criterias are out of the window. At this stage does it matter how beautiful she is, fat or skinny, tight boobs or no boobs, etc. Etc. There is no more 7 or 10 to contend with.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct. A good fuck is a good fuck and if she is a good fuck that is all that matters.
If I pay Baht 1500 or whatever all I want is a fuck to remember. If I remember the fuck she is a 'tick, ' if not she is a cross.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1415803]Frequenting medium to medium plus places as Climax, Levels, Q-Bar, Infinity (earlier Insomnia) , Shock69, Mixx, Spasso and more (for LT play) my expectations runs higher. In such places I expect some good girl quality, combi of PSE / GFE and here the girl crowd mostly will find itself on a quite good level and a 8 to 9 girl here would be a 7 to 8 at Demo and then they are more than good enough to session up with.
In Demo (where my rating system is developed from when it comes to looks) you have for Thailand the most stunning beauties imaginable and moviestars, models, rich mixed babes and here they go all the way up to 10 (the real thai 10). A girl rating 5 here would be doable but then probably be a bit chubby. If seen in BG she would have atleast been rated as a 7 to 8 and in Climax a fair 6 to 7. Ofcourse in Demo girls can only be met through normal mechanisms as most girls here are well heeled.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't include Shock 39 as a medium level place place, it was awful LOL. Like the soldier said in Apocalypse Now at the Do Lung Bridge scene, you're in the asshole of the world, captain! All the rest of them are pretty much same same, but better than Shock (ok I can't vouche for spassos). I would venture the one club you forgot to mention that has better looking girls is Scratchdog, but the girls there tend to gravitate toward the East Asian sex tourists, and especially the Singaporeans are quite popular (many girls I've talked to like them. Not sure if its their charm or wallet haha)
The funky villa / demo clubs are a notch or two above the freelance places because for one, they're not freelance places LOL, but good golly you make it sound like its Paris Hilton's exclusive birthday bash and that couldn't be further from the truth. Yes, you'll find heavy hitter types, and no you won't find motosai drivers or construction workers partying there, but fact of the matter is most of the girls there fit the Thai spec and many are broke as a joke when its all said and done. This place ain't nothin' special. It's ok to bring your own girls there for a good time out on the town, but the absolute worst place to try to try pick up
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1416079]Trying to give you guys the benefit of the doubt. I started cumming here in 2003, things haven't really changed much except back then patpong was an ok place.
The golden week in japan must have the light skin girls foaming at the mouth. R2 was hopping like I've never seen it before. Many of the back-up and filler girls were getting barfined.
R4 always busy so really hard to see effect on customer count.
No offense but people who finds things boring really need to look inward. Its more than likely you are boring. LOL.[/QUOTE]Ah, sorry Harold, I find plenty of fun in BKK, just not so much in the P4P scene any more. There is lots to do here! So no only bored with P4P. And sorry, things are drastically different from '03. I will agree that Nana has not changed much, but Cowboy sure has, as has the freelancer scene, and the demographics of lower Suk. I would say lower Suk is far dirtier than it was in '03. Remember the market ended at Soi 11 then. In 03 you did not have as many of the street bar eyesores either. The economy here was just starting to really recover as well.
Skogis,
Since you frequent the Grand President in you BKK stays, have you had the opportunity to check out the new club across the street above the Australian Pub called BASH?
I would like your opinion as to how it compares to Spasso and Climax. Thanks,
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1415980]? . go to, for example, Gullivers* . * Even the Beer Garden people watching.[/QUOTE]Better than a night at the movies. A student in social sciences will find great material for his studies.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2; 1416144]Skogis,
Since you frequent the Grand President in you BKK stays, have you had the opportunity to check out the new club across the street above the Australian Pub called BASH?
I would like your opinion as to how it compares to Spasso and Climax. Thanks, [/QUOTE]You know what Rod as far as I can remember I have never been to BASH. Every now and then vodka can influence my remembersystem so you never know. But give me a couple of days I will find out. I am heading to BKK in 1 or 2 days. I will mostly look into my regular girlfleet this time (this is my plan but I am great in breaking my own plans) but will for sure try to step inside the place to give you or others som info and compare the place to the others.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1416202]You know what Rod as far as I can remember I have never been to BASH. Every now and then vodka can influence my remembersystem so you never know. But give me a couple of days I will find out. I am heading to BKK in 1 or 2 days. I will mostly look into my regular girlfleet this time (this is my plan but I am great in breaking my own plans) but will for sure try to step inside the place to give you or others som info and compare the place to the others.[/QUOTE]Thanks, looking forward to your "field report" on BASH. Don't work over the crop in BKK too hard, I will be there shortly and I don't want them all to be all worn out by you before I get there! Save some for the rest of us (ha, ha, ha).
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1415980]Too much glitter and it is boring. A week of Soi Cowboy / Nana is enough before I get bored and go to, for example, Gullivers* to find a quiet FL office girl type.
Or watch football!
* Even the Beer Garden people watching.[/QUOTE][url]Http://gulliverbangkok.com/branch.php[/url]
90 day reporting in for Thai Retirement Visa, the A-O Visa, if you live in BKK.
How do any of you living in BKK do it? Do you travel to boarder city?
[QUOTE=TConor; 1416272]90 day reporting in for Thai Retirement Visa, the A-O Visa, if you live in BKK.
How do any of you living in BKK do it? Do you travel to boarder city?[/QUOTE]Perhaps I am not understanding your question. But for 90 day reporting you go to Thai Immigration, the same place you got your visa probably. In BKK I just go to Bumingrad Hospital for 90 day reporting. They will take care of it for a 500 baht fee. Leave the passport with them and pick it up the next day. Much easier than going out to Immigration.
[QUOTE=TConor;1416222][url]Http://gulliverbangkok.com/branch.php[/url][/QUOTE]The Gulliver mentioned in ISG is in Soi 5, Sukhumvit, some 100mtrs into the Soi. A sort of (I repeat "a sort of") upgraded or more classy Bier Garden (Soi 7).
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1416307]The Gulliver mentioned in ISG is in Soi 5, Sukhumvit, some 100mtrs into the Soi. A sort of (I repeat "a sort of") upgraded or more classy Bier Garden (Soi 7).[/QUOTE]And if you're into English football a place to be well aware of.
Yes, and they have free computers you can use while your checking out the scores and the Bangkok bangables.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1416307]The Gulliver mentioned in ISG is in Soi 5, Sukhumvit, some 100mtrs into the Soi. A sort of (I repeat "a sort of") upgraded or more classy Bier Garden (Soi 7).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1416307]The Gulliver mentioned in ISG is in Soi 5, Sukhumvit, some 100mtrs into the Soi. A sort of (I repeat "a sort of") upgraded or more classy Bier Garden (Soi 7).[/QUOTE]That on my last trip I met a potential keeper at Gullivers. Articulate, educated, attractive and fun. Just earning her rent money at the end of the month.
But I had other fish (well one anyway on the hook) so it will have to be another time.
PS- to those who say only the 'young' can score at Gullivers I say. Nonsense!
Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".
I'm having a high hit rate I. E. Piles of emails (granted many one or two liner introductions). The girls are quick to spit out contact details however and are mentioning that we should meet up when I get to Bangkok. I'm a 35 year old European, tall, slim build, which appears to be hitting their buttons.
Just wondering, have any of you guys used this website to line up dates when you land (as an alternative to p4p?
If so, what kind of success rate did you have in terms of getting them into the sack on the 1st date? Don't want to wine & dine a chick for days in order to spread her legs. Or let me rephrase that, I'm not to concerned about spending a bit of money on a hot girl, I just don't want to waste precious time, if the girls won't drop their trousers.
Thanks for any advice you have.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1416284]Perhaps I am not understanding your question. But for 90 day reporting you go to Thai Immigration, the same place you got your visa probably. In BKK I just go to Bumingrad Hospital for 90 day reporting. They will take care of it for a 500 baht fee. Leave the passport with them and pick it up the next day. Much easier than going out to Immigration.[/QUOTE]Where is "out to Immigration"?
In Chiang Rai Immigration comes to us from Mae Sai once a month or we can just go 60km up to Mae Sai?
But if I were to move to BKK how would I handle it?
[QUOTE=TConor; 1416592]Where is "out to Immigration"?
In Chiang Rai Immigration comes to us from Mae Sai once a month or we can just go 60km up to Mae Sai?
But if I were to move to BKK how would I handle it?[/QUOTE]I don't have the address with me but just google it or go to the thaivisa website. It is a big massive building out in the middle of nowhere. That is why it is much easier to just go to Bumingrad Hospital .10th floor in the first building you come to if entering from Soi 3.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1416646]I don't have the address with me but just google it or go to the thaivisa website. It is a big massive building out in the middle of nowhere. That is why it is much easier to just go to Bumingrad Hospital .10th floor in the first building you come to if entering from Soi 3.[/QUOTE][url]Http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/location1.html[/url]
It's in Chaengwattana, hardly the middle of nowhere. Taxi from Lower Sukhumvit about 100 baht and depending on traffic about 30 minutes. I am usually in and out and back in the bar in 2 to 3 hours.
[QUOTE=Proballer; 1416556]Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".
Thanks for any advice you have.[/QUOTE]Your approach is P4P but you don't want to do that. Honestly, I think you might be disappointed. Better "hit the road, Jack" and go for FL's or bar girls and enjoy them in the sack. As much as it can always be a hit or miss, your rate of success will be higher, less time consuming.
[QUOTE=Proballer; 1416556]Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".
I'm having a high hit rate I. E. Piles of emails (granted many one or two liner introductions). The girls are quick to spit out contact details however and are mentioning that we should meet up when I get to Bangkok. I'm a 35 year old European, tall, slim build, which appears to be hitting their buttons.
Just wondering, have any of you guys used this website to line up dates when you land (as an alternative to p4p?
If so, what kind of success rate did you have in terms of getting them into the sack on the 1st date? Don't want to wine & dine a chick for days in order to spread her legs. Or let me rephrase that, I'm not to concerned about spending a bit of money on a hot girl, I just don't want to waste precious time, if the girls won't drop their trousers.
Thanks for any advice you have.[/QUOTE]Well I have been using the datingsitetools for many years now and to some extent I consider myself to have atleast some knowledge what is going on in the datingsiteworld. I have used mostly Dateinasia (DIA) , Thailovelinks (TLL) , Tagged and FilipinoCupid (FC) but also tried your Thaifriendly. Com. NB! As a mongerer I do a combination of meeting datingsitegirls and meeting freelancegirls in typical places for that (they can ofcourse be both and most likely are).
Well back to your case then. You can assume that a good portion of girls frequenting these sites (especially the once that are for free) are P4P girls or atleast not girls who would be offended if you are willing to pay for sex. You can view their profiles and how they write it (atleast it has helped me). If profile has pictures mostly of the girl in bar / pub / disco environment you will most likely run into a socalled freelancegirl (there are many types of them but mostly atleast the ones I have come across often have daytimejob but but do some legspreading for that extra nice to have buck). I have also ran into non P4P girls but then their picture are taken in more normal daytime activities (at work, in uniform / workoutfit with a I'd / securitycard, on holiday / beach etc). More easy girls dress and stand out in bikinis or other tiny tiny bits of clothes hardly covering, I assume our mutual part of interests, their female advantageparts some even dress looking like prostitutes. Decent thaigirls can dress sexy and decent but don't show to much skin (traditional thai is strong in some) in general. Decent girls will also in most cases only wanting serious / longtime relationships but more easy girls will maby skip serious / long time and only want "romance / dating". NB! Some decent girls also press "dating" as they have understood by now that it is normal to date before entering a serious / long time relationship.
But it is an exciting world you enter now. There are no correct answers as girls will behave differently to us. Some like you and some like me. Some are in it for only the money yet others will be deeply offended if offered money. What they almost all have in common is that they want a western guy.
When I sign up a new profile tons of "hello","how are you","how are you doing","want to meet up" (probably p4p girls) and simular msg arrives in my inbox. After a while it calms down. I am a tad older than you recently turned 40. Started come into BKK (approx 10. 15 times per year) in 2006 and have no trouble getting girls back home (in fact I have one). European as well.
One twist I have started doing when creating a new profile (s) is that I tell straight up what I look for and with big letters I write "I AM NOT NOT INTERESTED IN SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP" then atleast in my case only girls who wants to have some fun will contact me. I have this morning arrived into Bangkok from Manila. I have spend 9 days in manila and had a blast with almost only girls from datingsites where I did write profile like I mentione above (even used the word "adultfun"). From some 4 weeks ago my profiles have been up and running and I remeber started out after a few days with 80girls (only Manila) I thought looked decent. I have almost not contacted anyone myself. After scammers and girls with brushed photos were ruled out (screened through webcam sessions) my list narrowed down to 28 attractive girls ranging from 20 to 37yrs. For a week or so approx 30girls seems high but you can add in 25% no shows (girls having second thoughts or simply chooce another punter) as well so you end up with 20 to choosefrom who are good to go (or to be fucked to be honest). Remember allways that these girls we are attrackted to datingsitewice have thousands and thousands of horny guys contacting them promise them gold and money so they can choose themself. But after talking about this to quite a few datingsitegirls I have learned that many many guys are simply rude and "hey I want to fuck you. How much","can I see your tits" and so on. I use a modest but direct language and it tends to attract atleast enough girls for my use.
So my recomandations to you are in short: be polite, don't use rude language, tell what you look for and don't be a cheap charlie. Sometimes a wine and dine is nice but even nicer if you know you can sex her after. If you don't know this the food does not taste the same, hehe.
NB! You can read the Philippine section of this forum and the Manila thread you can see how datingsitegirls can make you a better day:-) I have to admit I like to give the girls a little something even if they dont ask just to keep the record straight(put some money in their purse while thay do shower routine). Makes atleast me feel good. Tons of info to be had here as well(start at page 50 and you will know many things from a mongering perspective).. The philippine section even have its own "PenPal" section where a lot of issues from the datingsiteworld are debated most of the issues ofcourse applies for the thaipart of the datingsiteworld.. Just as a tip..
I will also encourage you to pay the $20 for subscription so you can send and recieve PM`s you also see pics in photothread better. Much info are also shared private as it is not meant out in the open..
Good luck and happy mongering..
[QUOTE=Proballer; 1416556]Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".
I'm having a high hit rate I. E. Piles of emails (granted many one or two liner introductions). The girls are quick to spit out contact details however and are mentioning that we should meet up when I get to Bangkok. I'm a 35 year old European, tall, slim build, which appears to be hitting their buttons.
Just wondering, have any of you guys used this website to line up dates when you land (as an alternative to p4p?
If so, what kind of success rate did you have in terms of getting them into the sack on the 1st date? Don't want to wine & dine a chick for days in order to spread her legs. Or let me rephrase that, I'm not to concerned about spending a bit of money on a hot girl, I just don't want to waste precious time, if the girls won't drop their trousers.
Thanks for any advice you have.[/QUOTE]I'll give you the Real Deal Holllyfield on dating sites. LOL
They're ok if you're here on a long holiday or a permanent stay. Since you said you're after hot girls and not concerned about spending money on them, just skip them unless you're willing to lower your standards. Remember the hot ones are getting 100's of messages daily, even the dogs get attention there. It's not really the money you would be wasting, but the time IMO (especially if you're here on short holiday). Many of those girls don't even resemble their photo. If you insist on meeting online, just set up a quick date near your place and then make it really simple not posh, like a cup of coffee or some cheap noodles. No need to initially spend a lot of money here, just go with the flow and if you like her and she's hot, then by all means go for it, either set up another date or hit a nightclub and have some fun fun.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1416681]Your approach is P4P but you don't want to do that. Honestly, I think you might be disappointed. Better "hit the road, Jack" and go for FL's or bar girls and enjoy them in the sack. As much as it can always be a hit or miss, your rate of success will be higher, less time consuming.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Proballer; 1416556]Hello guys,
Will embark on 1st trip to Thailand in 3 weeks. I've started putting in the spade work, part of which has been signing up to "Thaifriendly. Com".[/QUOTE]Bionicman is absolutely right. A few months ago Stickman published a very long story written by a relatively young guy (at least compared to me) who has been living in Bangkok for years. From the earliest days of TLL, Thaifriendly and similar websites he has used them extensively and has developed a system he has perfected. His story explained how he arrived at his system and how it works. What is notable is that he was adamant that for the average monger who visits Bangkok for a few days or a couple of weeks once and awhile these hookup websites are more time and trouble than they are worth. He strongly recommended doing exactly what Bionicman is suggesting. This was a very long submission and Stickman said in-spite of it's length he included it because in his opinion it was such a thoughtful analysis of the pros and cons of these websites.
The only thing I'd add is that MP girls inhouse or especially on outcall is another good option.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1416799]Bionicman is absolutely right. A few months ago Stickman published a very long story written by a relatively young guy (at least compared to me) who has been living in Bangkok for years. From the earliest days of TLL, Thaifriendly and similar websites he has used them extensively and has developed a system he has perfected. His story explained how he arrived at his system and how it works. What is notable is that he was adamant that for the average monger who visits Bangkok for a few days or a couple of weeks once and awhile these hookup websites are more time and trouble than they are worth. He strongly recommended doing exactly what Bionicman is suggesting. This was a very long submission and Stickman said in-spite of it's length he included it because in his opinion it was such a thoughtful analysis of the pros and cons of these websites.
The only thing I'd add is that MP girls inhouse or especially on outcall is another good option.[/QUOTE]Thanks as I'm in a similar boat as I was considering my first short trip (5 nights) in a few weeks and I find a bar girl with a lot mileage a completely distasteful option. I will look up Stickman reports.
Where is the best clubs to meet some non P4P locals, expat's, tourists, etc?
I was getting places like Q Bar, Levels, Route 66, Bed Supperclub from my research.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1416799]The only thing I'd add is that MP girls inhouse or especially on outcall is another good option.[/QUOTE]Of course! Whatever one does is ok. But "stay away" from dating site for a few day spell in BKK.
There are so many options that I do only 10% of what I have in mind when in BKK, and I count only for P4P and I also tend to reduce the amount of time spent with a sort of GF in BKK as it is like being hand cuffed, although she enjoys visiting some mongering places (bars, but not the go-go's) and always says: "if you want to take a girl back to the hotel do it and I go home: no trouble and no problem"
[QUOTE=Yellowpaul; 1416830]Thanks as I'm in a similar boat as I was considering my first short trip (5 nights) in a few weeks and I find a bar girl with a lot mileage a completely distasteful option. I will look up Stickman reports.
Where is the best clubs to meet some non P4P locals, expat's, tourists, etc?
I was getting places like Q Bar, Levels, Route 66, Bed Supperclub from my research.[/QUOTE]Any (non P4P) girl aht you will apporach and will hear you are there for 5 nights, she will kind of stay away as sh eknows you mainly want to take her to bed and then dump her.
There are some unique chances. To succeeed for a freebie and one night stand, but in 5 days youa re going to waste your time, I am afraid.
Check Bangkok beat from 10. 30pm in Soi 7/1, a mix of girls just out to enjy an evening but also some P4P in the crowd.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1416799]Stickman published a very long story written by a relatively young guy (at least compared to me) who has been living in Bangkok for years. From the earliest days of TLL, Thaifriendly and similar websites he has used them extensively and has developed a system he has perfected. What is notable is that he was adamant that for the average monger who visits Bangkok for a few days or a couple of weeks once and awhile these hookup websites are more time and trouble than they are worth.[/QUOTE]Key words in this post is "average monger." Even before I was living in Thailand I had no trouble hooking up with non-pro chicks on websites when I was only visiting for a few days. As you said, it is very time consuming. A rule of thumb with this as with many issues concerning picking up chicks is that if you can't do it at home or other places then don't expect to be able to do it there. I have been doing that type of thing on the internet since before there were dating sites and only chat rooms. And before the internet I was calling the party line deal picking up chicks. The game has not changed, only the players. As Bionicman said the girls get a lot of freaking responses so you would really have to step your game up. I had lost contact with a gik who I met on tagged. I went back on the site and she had a different profile so I emailed her. She said it was a miracle that we found each other again because she had gotten over 800 emails in 3 days. Guys in the PI thread who use DIA do not go on more than 2 weeks out of when they are arriving in PI. That is a good rule to follow. Any more time than that then the girl will usually lose interest, especially with so many more fish biting on her line.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1416883]Key words in this post is "average monger." Even before I was living in Thailand I had no trouble hooking up with non-pro chicks on websites when I was only visiting for a few days. As you said, it is very time consuming. A rule of thumb with this as with many issues concerning picking up chicks is that if you can't do it at home or other places then don't expect to be able to do it there. I have been doing that type of thing on the internet since before there were dating sites and only chat rooms. And before the internet I was calling the party line deal picking up chicks. The game has not changed, only the players. As Bionicman said the girls get a lot of freaking responses so you would really have to step your game up. I had lost contact with a gik who I met on tagged. I went back on the site and she had a different profile so I emailed her. She said it was a miracle that we found each other again because she had gotten over 800 emails in 3 days. Guys in the PI thread who use DIA do not go on more than 2 weeks out of when they are arriving in PI. That is a good rule to follow. Any more time than that then the girl will usually lose interest, especially with so many more fish biting on her line.[/QUOTE]I almost totaly agree with you. Good report. I don't mind some timespending with occational datingsitesgirls(even for short trips but mostly I do a combo dating/FL/regular) as I also spend some time with freelancegirls as well as in the prescreeningprocess (interviews, chemistrybuilding) before take out. Only Biergarden and sometimes Gullivers are used for quick take outs in my case (not timeconsuming). Having profiles stating straight to the bone what I look for did the trick atleast for me (I have lately done this). Some datingsitegirls you don't even have to wine and dine (my exp from my recent philly visit). The time spend 2-3 weeks infront of travel for buidling a list of available girls I don't mind as I find it fun and interesting (nice pre travel excitement).
[QUOTE=Yellowpaul; 1416830]Thanks as I'm in a similar boat as I was considering my first short trip (5 nights) in a few weeks and I find a bar girl with a lot mileage a completely distasteful option. I will look up Stickman reports.
Where is the best clubs to meet some non P4P locals, expat's, tourists, etc?
I was getting places like Q Bar, Levels, Route 66, Bed Supperclub from my research.[/QUOTE]I don't think Q Bar or Bed Supperclub are good choices. I don't think of them as good pickup spots and if you do pick up a lady in one of these places she's going to be a FL. Last December I took a different "date" to each place. I didn't notice any obvious FL at Bed and only a couple of possibilities at Q Bar, but I wasn't hunting so I may have missed someone.
I just frequent the usual haunts such as the go-go bars, MP, the popular pick-up clubs such as Climax and also book escorts through one agency, Bangkok Gold. So I'm not the best person to make suggestions. If you speak some Thai, are prepared to spend a good bit of time trying to identify the right lady, are not worried about being unsuccessful, and will be happy to get laid once or twice over five days, you might try hitting the night spots that are popular with the Thais, such as RCA. You could also just start talking to clerks, ladies on their lunch breaks and be on the lookout in the malls. However, there are many other guys on the Forum who are much more knowledgeable than I in such matters and may think I'm way off base. I defer to their expertise.
I'm basically a depraved monger who's perfectly happy to fuck one or two BG, MP and FL every day, with an occasional escort thrown into the mix. Other than spending a few minutes looking for an appealing lady at Climax or Gulliver's, or hitting a few go-go bars to see if I find a lady I like, I'd rather walking into an MP, book an MP on outcall or call Bangkok Gold.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1416923]I almost totaly agree with you. Good report. I don't mind some timespending with occational datingsitesgirls(even for short trips but mostly I do a combo dating/FL/regular) as I also spend some time with freelancegirls as well as in the prescreeningprocess (interviews, chemistrybuilding) before take out. Only Biergarden and sometimes Gullivers are used for quick take outs in my case (not timeconsuming). Having profiles stating straight to the bone what I look for did the trick atleast for me (I have lately done this). Some datingsitegirls you don't even have to wine and dine (my exp from my recent philly visit). The time spend 2-3 weeks infront of travel for buidling a list of available girls I don't mind as I find it fun and interesting (nice pre travel excitement).[/QUOTE]Still looking forward to your expert opinion on BASH! When you can find the time. Thanks,
[QUOTE=Skogis;1416923]The time spend 2-3 weeks infront of travel for buidling a list of available girls I don't mind as I find it fun and interesting (nice pre travel excitement).[/QUOTE]That can be filed as entertainment, just as we read and contribute to ISG when we are back home. Or it is just like browsing on Internet. You get to know what is gong on, what type of girls you might find around. But IMHO working actively on dating site to select your bed partners (I underline the plural but it is even worst on "single" basis) for the time you will be in Thailand is indeed a waste of time. It fascinating to jump on the plane and know there will be a girl waiting for you at the other end! But has much as you have spent hours on Skype, mas much as she has even been showing off on cam, the real chemistry is found only on real. If there is none you will be disillusioned, to will have to dump her (after weeks of "preparation") and find an alternative in a bar, on the street, at Gulliver. So back to ground zero. Options there are so many that it is much better start once you arrive. How often the initial good feelings at the bar, in real, are gone when the P4P girl is in the room? Happens often. Just think of that when selecting your bed partner through a dating site. Do you chat for weeks or months for a one night stand? Ehmmmm. Makes sense? Then bring your own ice to Alaska. Might be even better.
I read that in Philippines girls travel for one or two hours on a bus to meet (first time) the DIA monger. For a one night stand.
Sounds to me like buying two rolls of bread through Amazon. I prefer to buy my bread at the shop on the corner, maybe he has different types of bread I am fancy of.
PS, of course, the above "you" is generic, not addressed to Skogis.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1416953]It fascinating to jump on the plane and know there will be a girl waiting for you at the other end! But has much as you have spent hours on Skype, mas much as she has even been showing off on cam, the real chemistry is found only on real. If there is none you will be disillusioned, to will have to dump her (after weeks of "preparation")[/QUOTE]I just came from Colombia and met this chick who is an engineer. I don't know how she found me, but somehow in January when I was in Colombia and she was in Orlando / Miami she added me to her facebook. Three months of trying to converse with her was useless. And it was the same in person this past weekend. All she did was ask questions; the type of questions that lead to more questions. We had fun in the sex department and going out, but when we were alone and no sex was happening it sucked. Last night I decided to turn on the TV for the first time. I went to the toilet and came back and she had taken control of the remote and didn't want to give it up. I jumped in her shit. All weekend she had not thought about the TV, but when I decided to turn it on, geez. And each time we went to sleep she woke up first and would pester me about waking up because she was up. That shit got on my fucking nerves. I got so visibly frustrated with her that by the time she went home late last night we knew we wouldn't be seeing each other again.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1416953]Just think of that when selecting your bed partner through a dating site. Do you chat for weeks or months for a one night stand? Ehmmmm. Makes sense? I read that in Philippines girls travel for one or two hours on a bus to meet (first time) the DIA monger. For a one night stand. Sounds to me like buying two rolls of bread through Amazon. I prefer to buy my bread at the shop on the corner, maybe he has different types of bread I am fancy of.[/QUOTE]I have never tried to meet a woman online in hopes that it would be a one night stand or that we would have sex together (unless somehow it comes up and it is mutual). But 9 times out of 10 nature takes its course and afterwards we remain friends or more. If I want a one night stand then there are plenty of FL to go around. I'm not into wasting my time chatting up and putting in time with someone who is P4P who I have never seen in person. Like you said I would rather pick my P4P chicks in living color.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_StNnA8La7A[/url]
Skogis,
Is your favorite waitress featured in the video?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2; 1416998][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_StNnA8La7A[/url]
Skogis,
Is your favorite waitress featured in the video?[/QUOTE]Hm she has served me on various occations yes (not mongerwice). When I stay at GP and I need my sauerkrat and sausages I eat here. Und trink meine Weissbier.
Warum you ask this question?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1416950]Still looking forward to your expert opinion on BASH! When you can find the time. Thanks,[/QUOTE]Just been to BASH, it was a bit of a HASH, so really must DASH, that BASH was a bit of a GASH, so bye from BASH Mr. PASH.
There you go! Why don't you go for yourself the next time you are in Bangers. I am sure it is just another Disco / Club / Gash.
Regards.
Chuckie the BJ Ned.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1417008]Hm she has served me on various occations yes (not mongerwice). When I stay at GP and I need my sauerkrat and sausages I eat here. Und trink meine Weissbier.
Warum you ask this question?[/QUOTE]Sie erwähnt, dass Sie eine große, attraktive Kellnerin nahm füare eine Fahrt in Ihrem Zimmer. Ich frage mich, ob das attraktiv in dem Video war das Mädchen. (Blame Google if something is lost in translation.)
Makes all sense. Still there is people doing it, with few good scores and lots of disappointments.
I think it is worthwhile to warn the guys (rather than giving phone nos. Or address of our conquests as anyhow YMMV) who dream about that path (making the dating site happy with the traffic, their role is to create illusions and Internet traffic)
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1416972]I just came from Colombia and met this chick who is an engineer. I got so visibly frustrated with her that by the time she went home late last night we knew we wouldn't be seeing each other again.[/QUOTE]That is when the say "we pay them to leave" comes around handy. Chemistry cannot be built artificially. Maybe some WG / P4P give more GFE than a non WG with whom one can occasionally hook through a dating site. If there is no chemistry best is to put some money in the purse and politely say bye bye, if she is a WG. If she is not, things are more difficult, if one has a sort of respect for the other party and the other party doesn't get the point (as your girl and the TV issue). You might party well or you might party on anger.
Of course one can care the less to leave an angry party out of the door, but then, after it might happen a few times (and it will) , one really questions (or should question) himself, why the hell he went through this dating site saga.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1417046]Think it thru Paul-do you think there would be a Bangkok if girls were giving it away for free?[/QUOTE]Probably in the very beginning some were free as enjoyed the opportunity to hook with a farang, giving her some cheap gifts. Then the news spread around and more farangs came to LOS aware of the "free" pussy. Girls realised they could raise some money, some funds.
On the other hand they might enjoy some free drinks, some meal, some pocket money. But you are not making a living out of that. Money is needed in normal life. And whatever one does for a living he / she needs the working hours to earn money for a living. If those hours are spent hanging around with farangs for next to nothing (and don't tell me their existence back at the village is with nothing, the town costs more than the village) , sooner or later they will realise that it's the wrong way to go. Especially if the farangs go away after 5 days or 20 days.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1417049]Never underestimate chemistry. These volume guys have no clue how much it adds to the experience.
Getting sex online is no big deal-they hookers too, for the most part. Don't flatter yourself and think you doing them a favor. LOL.
You can tell the posters with massive egos- I wouldn't put too much stock in what they say. LOL.[/QUOTE]"All women are wh*res and all men are consumers." You could be paying with money, time, emotions, etc. There is always a price to pay.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1417052]Sie erwähnt, dass Sie eine große, attraktive Kellnerin nahm füare eine Fahrt in Ihrem Zimmer. Ich frage mich, ob das attraktiv in dem Video war das Mädchen. (Blame Google if something is lost in translation.)[/QUOTE]Ah I see yes in my last trip me and a greman bloke start talking at the Old german Beerhouse. Then the lady in the video was serving us that is correct. She ended up with meeting the german bloke at Climax when her shift ended at 2am ors sth. What happened after that (him and her) I don't know. It was me and the german bloke going to my room. LOL
[QUOTE=Skogis;1417165]Ah I see yes in my last trip me and a greman bloke start talking at the Old german Beerhouse. Then the lady in the video was serving us that is correct. She ended up with meeting the german bloke at Climax when her shift ended at 2am ors sth. What happened after that (him and her) I don't know. It was me and the german bloke going to my room. LOL[/QUOTE]If you are in town when I am there, I will certainly buy you a pitcher of beer! You have entertained me with your exploits and recommendations.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1417046]I've never seen guys approaching girls in malls- could be a myth. Never seen guys chat up cosmetics or eyeglass girls-could be myth.[/QUOTE]I have done both of these repeatedly and with minimal effort during long stays in PI, not cosmetics and eyeglass girls specifically but clothing shop girls, shoe shop ladies, electronics store girls. I don't have experience with this in Bangkok and probably will not have a chance to try on my next trip due to time constraints but might give it a shot on future extended visits. Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?
[QUOTE=Linkwray666;1417297]Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?[/QUOTE]The obvious difference in regard to shop girl pickups at least, is the Phils is pretty much a third world basket case where the chicks are often looking for a ticket out vs lets say Bangkok where its generally viewed as an amazing world class "happening place to be" megalopolis. Excepting the under 35 charmers who can pick up anywhere anyways, that's a big difference right there.
[QUOTE=Linkwray666;1417297]I have done both of these repeatedly and with minimal effort during long stays in PI, not cosmetics and eyeglass girls specifically but clothing shop girls, shoe shop ladies, electronics store girls. I don't have experience with this in Bangkok and probably will not have a chance to try on my next trip due to time constraints but might give it a shot on future extended visits. Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?[/QUOTE]Another reason why is in the PI, the girls can speak decent English while their Thai Sisters generally speak crap English.
[QUOTE=Linkwray666;1417297]I have done both of these repeatedly and with minimal effort during long stays in PI, not cosmetics and eyeglass girls specifically but clothing shop girls, shoe shop ladies, electronics store girls. I don't have experience with this in Bangkok and probably will not have a chance to try on my next trip due to time constraints but might give it a shot on future extended visits. Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?[/QUOTE]No. But it seems that most guys believe that if they can't do it or haven't done it then it is far-fetched and not possible. And even if they do accomplish it then they guilt themselves into believing that they need to give the girl money. I chatted up a Chonburi eyeglass girl on the plane from Tokyo to Bangkok. Of course I did not know she was an eyeglass girl until we exchanged information.
One non-p4p girl I used to mess with said that when she first went to Bangkok from her home town she worked in a furniture store. She started dating a farang who shopped in the store and ended up losing her virginity to him. Most here would probably say she wasn't a traditional Thai lady, but just a big liar, and chalk her up to being the town hoar (maybe because those are the only type of women they are used to dealing with).
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1417141]"All women are wh*res and all men are consumers." You could be paying with money, time, emotions, etc. There is always a price to pay.[/QUOTE]I never had a rich GF to support me. On a per fuck basis, I always found hookers in Thailand to be cheaper than a real GF or wife even more so. A real GF / wife comes with so many hassles and bills to pay. Many of us find it hard to see the worth in it. Even when I had a well paid Farang wife, it still cost me some money and not much sex. She wasn't even clean down there. She got horny one day per month and was a be*tch the rest of the time. That was when I first found that Thai girls were way better than those of my own country for sex.
Arrived early Monday morning into Bangkok from Manila and went straight to my Bangkok hotel. Was thinking of going out for an initial FL girl at Climax but stayed in room, watched som The Wire episodes and crashed instead.
Monday. Jumped out of bed around 10ish. Went down to Villa Market to shop suplies (alcohol) and building up my stock of Kamagra gel packs, KY tube of lube and some additional antibiothics just incase something is wrong with my little willy. Paid as usual 3000BHT for 50pk of Kamagra. If you buy small ammount you pay 80BHT per pack. I decided to skip the banana flavour and went for black currant, pineapple, vanilla, orange and strawberry. Let the Thai mongergame begin. Headed for BG around 1pm. Decent crowd (girlwice) and according to MY ratingsystem (expectations of the place and so on) only 7 at best present at that time. After shipping a beer ms Mona (lets call her that) walks in and she is atleast very cute, smiley and somewhat sexy (all in all a BG 8) so I follow my willys recomandations and eyeball her in such a nice way so she sits down next to me. Quick prescreening and interviewing and 15min later we head back to my hotel. A+ services agreed. In BG I allways check if that is on the meny if not I will bring in a substitute.
Good session, short and effective, anal play with condom and good BBBJ and I salute her with a CIM. She did the spit out routine after. Can not blame her realy. I usualy don't let BG girls stay but this one I let use my laptop so she can go through some e-mails while I watch some TV. I am thinking of having another go at her as well as she had some good moves. 30min later we commit into romp nr 2 she lies flat on back on table. The table have just the correct height according to me and I don't have to stand on my toes to do her. I change a lot between pumping ass and twat. I salute her with one COA. Gave her 2K for nice performance 8/10 and looks she get 8/10 (BG wice) .155cm. 40kg and 24yrs no occupation. 1 baby but no stretchmarks.
I feel somewhat sick later towards the eve so I decide to call in sick. For company I can not choose from my regular fleet as they think nothing of the lower Suk area and they better not find out I stay in this area (the one who did know / found out are no longer with me from various reasons). I decide to redo a Climax girl (an 8 Climaxwice) instead and she arrives around 10pm. Lets call her Pam. She was analfriendly last time and no surprises where to be had thanks god. I was a bit slimey and trouble breathing so I let her do most of the work (to hard mongering in Phils) in the beginning. She gave good service and assroad me. A very nice view when the ladies lean backwards and you see your willy inside the ass instead of pussy I think. We did a few sessions during the night and I did her at the breakfasttable around noon. I did her bareback last time incl ass and it was hazzlefree but this time I went bareback only in pussy and I did infact cover up in ass. She claimed she hadn`t freelanced for a while (I guess she is only a part time FL as I know for a fact she also carries a regular job in Terminal21) so that is fine. Performance 8/10, looks 8/10, 30yrs. 162cm. 45kg. 1 baby, no stretchs, shaved. Did go through a lot in the sex textbook and I saluted her 3 times but probably did 5-6 sessions in total (a bit on and off) KY empty. Very friendly, a lot of DFK, DATY, BBBJ, rimmings and so on. Gave her 3K and we went both outside as I needed more KY and beers / vodka.
Felt very satisfied for a while and almost well again but around 5ish I started to get restless and in need of some pussy. Called up a TLL date (not screened through webcam for achange) and we agreed to meet up at the big post box at Terminal21 at 7. I have seen some pics of her ofcourse but they proved to be taken from proffesionals. She was not ugly but an even 5. Proved to be very traditional and for you native englishspeakingguys finding my english crappy, well she wasn`t much better. Seems like writing and using translatortools is her advantage. Maby she also was a bit nervous I don't know. And the poor girl seemed to like me so I dined her but later I told her in a nice way I did not think this was going to work due to lack of communicationability (had infact to use some translator tool on my Lumina phone to pass this message or communicate whatsoever. For her it seemed this was no problem). So guys what can we learn from this mistake? Screening screening through webcam.
BTS'ed my way back to Nana and popped inside Soi 8 around 9pm to see if a FL girl I knew was present. She was so happy to see me again. Lets call her Hoy. She has nice tetas and I like silicon valley every now and then and right now I felt the urge. We decided to go to her place which she shares with a few others but atleast it is a decent apartment in Soi 24. We did motobike our way there. No AC though so I was sweating like a pig. Did her mostly in the bathroom as one of her friends was present. Just a quicky for the road. She gave me this one for free since I am such a nice guy and I bought a lot of food for her friends in Soi 8 which she highly appreciated. Gives her good standing. She claimed not to be freelancing so much anymore but if anyone recognize her I recomend her but cover up guys I did not. She is all A+ friendly and good FL girl.
Arrived back at hotel around 11pm showered and shipped some vodkas while doing some online work. Jumped into the night at 1am and jumped in a taxi and headed over to CM2. Some stanigirls present and some black women too. Bought a bottle of Absolute and there were some eyecandy. A couple of Stanis worked their way over to my bottle but they are so direct and low on chemistry so even if they could have been 8/9`s I can picture a bad session. They are to forward with pricesettings as well and one claimed 6K and she would stay all night. I gave her a polite laugh. Met up with lets call her Lis (7/10) instead and she was very friendly and funny too. She became drunk and so did I. She asked if I wanted to join her and she did claim she was only in town for a short visit. I did not buy it but what the heck I am not going to live together with her anyway. We almost finished the hole bottle and off we went to some apt / hotel HoneyHouse in Soi22 (I don't know if this building is a part of HoneyHouse, hehe) so she did infact have a room. She claimed it was 400 a night with ofcourse another girl in the room. This girl woke up and my 3some instinct fired up but she was uglybugly so I politely refused her kind offer having a go at her as well. Atleast it was some sort of AC so the fuck session was ok and she was A+ friendly as well (I covered up in ass). After 2 rounds I felt like leaving for home. The place was not clean enough for my liking so I crawled back to my hotel assisted by a taxi after a while. Lis 25yrs. 160cm. 50kg, DFK, BBBJ, looks 7/10 and performance 8/10 (bcs of ass access).
And now I am in shock as I a couple of hours ago recieved a phonecall from GF back home. She and a friend of her is coming to BKK tomorrow. This was her surprise to me as I, stupid me, did tell her I finish my business in BKK and leave back home on Sunday or Monday so now she have decided to come see her love. GRRR! Well the change of hotel from a monger area to a non monger area was allready planned as I was from tomorrow going to attend to my fleet of regular girls (in Novotel Airport) but know I have to think outside the box and spend time with my GF IN BKK. WTF. I could not come up with an excuse as I was caught off guard. I tried to sound happy. Well Lebua it is.
Gents,
Managed to secure a 2 day pass in BKK away from the missus. Unfortunately I land on May 24th (Visakha Bucha day)!
Trying to work out whether there will be any bars open (I love to booze with FL girls) and any gogo bars open?
If neither are available what will be my best bet for meeting FL girls to bring back to my room (mental note to stock up on booze at Heathrow airport!)
Can't believe my luck.
Cusland
Has anyone ever receive fake money from the money changers? Two of my friends who have been to Thailand quite a few times have 2 different view. One person said that he always go to the bank to exchange money even though they don't have favorable rate because he said that he had received fake money from money changers before. The other friend said that he have been going to Thailand for 10 years, always used money changers and have never received a fake bill.
I told them that I would post the question on the forum and see what the experts here's experiences have been.
[QUOTE=Cusland; 1417699]Gents,
Managed to secure a 2 day pass in BKK away from the missus. Unfortunately I land on May 24th (Visakha Bucha day)!
Trying to work out whether there will be any bars open (I love to booze with FL girls) and any gogo bars open?
If neither are available what will be my best bet for meeting FL girls to bring back to my room (mental note to stock up on booze at Heathrow airport!)
Can't believe my luck.
Cusland[/QUOTE]I was in Bangkok on Makha Bucha day. Nana Entertainment Plaza and Soi Cowboy were closed and dark. However, there were some bars on Soi 4 still open, just not in NEP. Also, some of the discos were open as well. And after midnight, some of the street bars will open.
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1417840]Has anyone ever receive fake money from the money changers? Two of my friends who have been to Thailand quite a few times have 2 different view. One person said that he always go to the bank to exchange money even though they don't have favorable rate because he said that he had received fake money from money changers before. The other friend said that he have been going to Thailand for 10 years, always used money changers and have never received a fake bill.
I told them that I would post the question on the forum and see what the experts here's experiences have been.[/QUOTE]Counterfeit bahts can be a problem:
[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/don-t-spend-fake-thai-baht-thailand[/url]
I've never been given a counterfeit baht since I hardly ever use a money changer. Instead, I get my bahts from an ATM. So far, I haven't been given any counterfeit as change which is probably how most counterfeit gets into circulation. It happened to me in Argentina when a cab driver gave me counterfeit $$ as change.
I read somewhere that the most counterfeited money is the Chinese Yuan. From the country that counterfeits everything, I guess that isn't a real surprise.
[QUOTE=Linkwray666;1417297]Is getting freebies in Thailand somehow more difficult than getting it for free in other countries? If so, why?[/QUOTE]Maybe thru some of the internet services it is possible but your basic pick-up face to face of a regular Thai girl is very hard for most of us. One thing as mentioned is the language, but the big reason I believe is simply perception. When you see a Thai girl with a Farang, the assumption by almost everyone is that she is a working girl or was a working girl. Regular Thai girls don't want people to think that of them. I think this is changing as Thailand gets more Western in some ways and as lots of Farangs are now working here and meeting regular girls thru work and social interaction. But it still is the elephant in the room if you go out with her. And if you are just passing thru what is in it for her? It happens though I am sure. I know a few waitresses in Farangland who have ended up marrying Westerners but I suspect lurking in their past was a period of doing more than taking food orders.
[QUOTE=Yujin; 1417851]Counterfeit bahts can be a problem:
[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/don-t-spend-fake-thai-baht-thailand[/url]
I've never been given a counterfeit baht since I hardly ever use a money changer. Instead, I get my bahts from an ATM. So far, I haven't been given any counterfeit as change which is probably how most counterfeit gets into circulation. It happened to me in Argentina when a cab driver gave me counterfeit $$ as change.
I read somewhere that the most counterfeited money is the Chinese Yuan. From the country that counterfeits everything, I guess that isn't a real surprise.[/QUOTE]So it would be safe to exchange US$ at Thailand banks? So much for using money changers since they are suppose to be everywhere in Bangkok.
I have only been to Thailand once a few years ago so I don't know how to tell a real bill vs a fake bill.
[QUOTE=Csun213;1417862]So it would be safe to exchange US$ at Thailand banks? So much for using money changers since they are suppose to be everywhere in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Also banks have booth every where with extended opening times, Sundays included. Honestly, unless one is changing huge amounts the difference is not worth to walk too far to change money.
Nice report Skogis. However, the Hoy girl looks a little suspect LOL
[QUOTE=Csun213;1417862]So it would be safe to exchange US$ at Thailand banks? So much for using money changers since they are suppose to be everywhere in Bangkok. I have only been to Thailand once a few years ago so I don't know how to tell a real bill vs a fake bill.[/QUOTE]All you should worry about is how much fucking you are going to do. The money is a non-issue. If it was an issue then you would see it posted everywhere. I have never received fake money that I have known about. I bring cash, change it over, then put it into my Thai account. I think if you did receive fake bills then it would be in the 100 baht denomination, which is only over US$3. And you won't receive a stack of them at the same time. Like Yujin said it might be one mixed in with some change you receive. So each time your friend uses the ATM he is paying the $5 the Thai bank is going to charge him plus the money his bank is going to charge him. He will actually save money if he opts to receive a couple of counterfeit bills from money changers instead.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1417904]All you should worry about is how much fucking you are going to do. The money is a non-issue. If it was an issue then you would see it posted everywhere. I have never received fake money that I have known about. I bring cash, change it over, then put it into my Thai account. I think if you did receive fake bills then it would be in the 100 baht denomination, which is only over US$3. And you won't receive a stack of them at the same time. Like Yujin said it might be one mixed in with some change you receive. So each time your friend uses the ATM he is paying the $5 the Thai bank is going to charge him plus the money his bank is going to charge him. He will actually save money if he opts to receive a couple of counterfeit bills from money changers instead.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. I am not worried about getting fake 100B but about the fake 1000B at the money changers. I will be bring cash and will be changing about US$2000 in Bangkok. I never saw anything on the forum about fake money which is why I never gave it a second thought until one friend told me that he had gotten fake 1000B at a money changer. This was the reason why I ask if anyone here have ever received fake money at a money changer.
[QUOTE=Csun213;1418049]Thanks for the response. I am not worried about getting fake 100B but about the fake 1000B at the money changers. I will be bring cash and will be changing about US$2000 in Bangkok. I never saw anything on the forum about fake money which is why I never gave it a second thought until one friend told me that he had gotten fake 1000B at a money changer. This was the reason why I ask if anyone here have ever received fake money at a money changer.[/QUOTE]Change at reputable exchange booths. They're all run by Thai banks, or other large companies. Unlike, say, Myanmar, Bali or Venezuela, you don't have to go into a back room or somebody's jewelry shop to exchange money. There is no black market, it's all above board. The odds of getting fake bills this way are extremely small.
The 1, 000B bill has a silver metallic stripe and a sort of holographic watermark. Look at one. Many times when you pay with one the clerk will do the same. Those are really hard to fake. Check the bills and, if it's there, you're OK.
Stop worrying!
Thanks, just didn't want to keep trying to find a bank when I need to change money.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1417879]If this girl did do anal, it would ruin my perception that only ugly girls do anal. LOL. J[/QUOTE]Over the past 30+ years I've had plenty of anal from many girls, pros and complete amateurs, who were 8s and 9s. Many of the girls were in Bangkok; they were all pros. The amateurs who did and liked anal were all in North America.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1418102]Change at reputable exchange booths. They're all run by Thai banks, or other large companies. Unlike, say, Myanmar, Bali or Venezuela, you don't have to go into a back room or somebody's jewelry shop to exchange money. There is no black market, it's all above board. The odds of getting fake bills this way are extremely small.
The 1, 000B bill has a silver metallic stripe and a sort of holographic watermark. Look at one. Many times when you pay with one the clerk will do the same. Those are really hard to fake. Check the bills and, if it's there, you're OK.
Stop worrying![/QUOTE]Yes! No need to worry about counterfeit Baht. The North Koreans are only printing US$100 LOL. While its true many of the money changers are big companies, such as Supperich1965 which I frequently use because their rates are excellent, in fact there are small independent money changers in Bangkok, and some of these are in jewelry stores. For example there is a jeweler near the Chit Lom BTS on the south side that changes money. Generally these independents offer the poorest rates, though better than the banks. Personally, I'd only use a bank if I have dollars that have a mark on them I missed. The money changers will not accept these. I can't understand why anyone would accept the ridiculously low exchange rates the banks offer. If you're exchanging US$2000 there may be as much as a THB2500 difference between the best and worst rates you'll find. That's almost enough to get 90 minutes of debauchery with Apple over at Cherry's. Even the difference on US$100 is enough to pay for some great street food.
I think a guy on a limited budget would do well to bring dollars, euros or pounds, seek out the best exchange rates, and avoid the ATMs and banks altogether. Doing it this way will save you enough to pay for some extra pussy.
Over time these small differences add up.
[QUOTE=RBDave;1417844]I was in Bangkok on Makha Bucha day. Nana Entertainment Plaza and Soi Cowboy were closed and dark. However, there were some bars on Soi 4 still open, just not in NEP. Also, some of the discos were open as well. And after midnight, some of the street bars will open.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sir. You're a gentleman. I'm staying in the Landmark so not far to go to Soi 4. (had some fun times in Twins bar before with admittedly ropey women!). Here's hoping climax disco is open later on!
Anyone know if DR BJ etc will be open?
Cheers
Arriving Sun May 12 early and had planned a later morning / early afternoon excursion to Cowboy or Nana etc. However, hotel I am put in (Narathiwas) seems to be 4-5 km to south in Chongnonsee. Wonderful! So I guess a taxi is the only way. Questions.
A. Anyone have other thoughts?
Be. Anyone know anything about "friendliness" of Narathiwas if I phone for a visitor?
Well travelled but new to Thailand / Bangkok. And no spring chicken.
Gali
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1417862]So it would be safe to exchange US$ at Thailand banks? So much for using money changers since they are suppose to be everywhere in Bangkok.
I have only been to Thailand once a few years ago so I don't know how to tell a real bill vs a fake bill.[/QUOTE]Vasu on the corner of 7/1 gives the best rate. 1% or more above what banks offer, may not seem a lot but that's where to go. On fake bills, never known anybody who had this problem anywhere in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1418150]Arriving Sun May 12 early and had planned a later morning / early afternoon excursion to Cowboy or Nana etc. However, hotel I am put in (Narathiwas) seems to be 4-5 km to south in Chongnonsee. Wonderful! So I guess a taxi is the only way. Questions.
A. Anyone have other thoughts?
Be. Anyone know anything about "friendliness" of Narathiwas if I phone for a visitor?
Well travelled but new to Thailand / Bangkok. And no spring chicken.
Gali[/QUOTE]Cowboy, Nana and Patpong are evening venues, if you want daytime action try the bars, soapies or oilies. Lots on this and other forums re where to go.
[QUOTE=Cusland; 1418140]Thanks Sir. You're a gentleman. I'm staying in the Landmark so not far to go to Soi 4. (had some fun times in Twins bar before with admittedly ropey women!). Here's hoping climax disco is open later on!
Anyone know if DR BJ etc will be open?
Cheers[/QUOTE]You may want to try BASH as it closes very late from what has been told and is just down the street from Climax. BASH is above the Australian Pub, across the street from the Grand President Hotel.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1418166]Cowboy, Nana and Patpong are evening venues, if you want daytime action try the bars, soapies or oilies. Lots on this and other forums re where to go.[/QUOTE]Agreed there will be most action night time. However, my idea of a midday excursion (apart from the obvious) was to get my bearings of places in daylight so to make things easier at night. Also, once the job starts there will be no other daytime opportunities to see the highlights and the quality of the eye candy. I also need to sort out how to get to places from my hotel and better doing that daytime and at leisure rather than at night / after work when a part of my anatomy is demanding urgent attention.
Gali
Thanks guys for all the feedback on fake bills.
I never thought anything about fake bills until one friend said that he got some from a money changer once. I am glad that no one here on the forum have received fake bills since most of you guys go to Thailand a lot more than my friends.
I will use money changers since they are everywhere the last time I was in Thailand so they would be easier for me. Thanks again in putting my mind at ease.
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1418346]Thanks guys for all the feedback on fake bills.
I never thought anything about fake bills until one friend said that he got some from a money changer once. I am glad that no one here on the forum have received fake bills since most of you guys go to Thailand a lot more than my friends.
I will use money changers since they are everywhere the last time I was in Thailand so they would be easier for me. Thanks again in putting my mind at ease.[/QUOTE]I have changed money at many places in Bangkok over more than 20 years and have never received a note which was later refused by anyone.
You are just as likely to get a fake $ or Ł in my view.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1418209]A prostitutes look- my theory.
I think the main factor is the face followed by the body. Everything else no big deal.
The other night my bf was trying to get her hair just right- she got frustrated she couldn't do it to her satisfaction. I told her your hair really doesn't matter if a guy barfines you or not. LOL. Don't know what she thought of my comments.
I may be getting a bit too comfortable with this girl as I tell her what I really think. LOL. Ex- she tried a push up bra for the first time, I knew right off the bat I didn't like it and told her so. Since she doesn't have much too push up the bra looked like it pushed up a lot of air. LOL.
With her regular tiny bra theres a bit of boobs showing- very sexy considering she not a well endowed girl.
Heavy eyeliner make-up. I told her no good-makes her look like a prostitute. LOL. I didn't really say it makes her look like a prostitute but thats what I thought.
Fake eyelashes- told her no good.
Don't know if the tinkering is because she's not as popular as she was not long ago. Before she was alwasy getting called off stage and getting a barfine while I was there. Now when I'm there she doesn't get called off stage at all.[/QUOTE]I can live with an ok face. Have to have a rockin' body.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1418165]Vasu on the corner of 7/1 gives the best rate. 1% or more above what banks offer, may not seem a lot but that's where to go. On fake bills, never known anybody who had this problem anywhere in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Agree 1000000%
I've fucked about every type of girl you can fuck in Thailand now and still happiest with my nana plaza gogo bar girlfriend. Would take a bullet for me which could come in handy if I'm ever in shootout hehe. A very rare bird, that didn't have a Thai boyfriend. Tells me the most interesting stories on a daily basis, just as if one dated a cop would here the same. Just the other day, her coworker couldn't walk. Some guy from Spain with a giant dick brutalized her pussy all night. Got 5, 000 but has to pay 10, 000 to have her pussy fixed and out of work for a week. On the other end, my innocent, smiley, small boobed, small ass, clean cut girl attracts a lot of pussy types. Cuddlers, baby dicks, minute men from Fortune 500 companies and such, that try to get her to go straight hehe which works out awesome for me. I, well I loosen her asshole up a little by little each day and have the nights to myself searching for side pieces if I have the energy. Everyday I hear different stories but my memory is dog shit right now. You can learn something new from just about anyone.
Regarding my side pieces, couldn't be happier with what Thailand has to offer. Growing up and semi retired with the young, pretty, spinners. Just some incredible thickness here from chicks aged 27 on up and of course way better in the sack. You long time visitors or ex pats think a growing economy has lead to more nourished girls? Because I have been encountering some of the fattest assses and get giddy like a school girl on a daily basis.
You don't get my dick if you are 30 minutes late to meet me.
Love this city. Pussy so accessible you can deny a ***** for being annoying.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1418443]. You long time visitors or ex pats think a growing economy has lead to more nourished girls? Because I have been encountering some of the fattest assses and get giddy like a school girl on a daily basis.[/QUOTE]For sure BKK resident girls have access to more junk food. Just look at how much McDonald expanded as well as (cheap and junky) pizza places (like Domino or home delivery), all these have nothing to do with the natural diet their bodies are used to have by DNA.
I just found this app. It gives you the real time exchange rates. I haven't used it while in Thailand though.
[url]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.megarichcurrencyexchange.thailand[/url]
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1418507]For sure BKK resident girls have access to more junk food. Just look at how much McDonald expanded as well as (cheap and junky) pizza places (like Domino or home delivery), all these have nothing to do with the natural diet their bodies are used to have by DNA.[/QUOTE]And the weight gain for all on Thailand is amazing to witness. Sure there are plenty of thin Thai's but the number of heavy, heavier, and OMG, heaviest Thai's is astonishing. They have had sweet fried foods here forever; it's how much they can afford to each with the good economy that has contributed to Thai fatties. Hasn't done much for the Thai tits though!
[QUOTE=TConor;1418527]And the weight gain for all on Thailand is amazing to witness. Sure there are plenty of thin Thai's but the number of heavy, heavier, and OMG, heaviest Thai's is astonishing. They have had sweet fried foods here forever; it's how much they can afford to each with the good economy that has contributed to Thai fatties. Hasn't done much for the Thai tits though![/QUOTE]I don't think it is the fried and sweet it self. The asian diet is full of fried food, but either the ingredients or what is never heavy as the western food. You can have a significant Asian meal and never feel over heavy as with western food after one dish. More vegtables, maybe? Don't underestimate the lack of cheese and diary products in the Asian cuisine, another fat factor (not to mention cholesterol etc).
I remember my first time in BKK. We always had to be careful about age as very young (too young) girls were proposed. Now they mention on the webpages 18 to 23 but you can add 10 years for the real age.
Any real 18 to be advised for me?
It is time, as promised, to summarize my thoughts on the Asian travels completed today. Here it goes:
The punch line the added value of an Phils / Thai mongering trip grows exponentially to the age of the punter. This value is also decreases with the lengh of stay. In other words, older punters with plenty of time to spare at Phils / Thailand will benefit the most from these places. For young, good looking guys on a relatively short trips it is perhaps worthwhile waiting for 20 years to maximize the value of such a trip (unless, of course, there is a direct introductions form local contacts involved or all expenses paid business trip) and rather focus on German FKKs or their home grounds.
Now in more detail. I've conducted extensive tasting of Manila and Bangkok. Few points on the author, so to speak to understand my perspective. I'm relatively young, not on a budget. I have ample options to f*k for free 7s (in looks) , if not 8s in the West (I know, I know there now such thing 'for free', but I chose not to account here for the investment of time, meals, drinks, etc that female companionship typically require). I understand that most humans are driven to P4P scene by their lack of either companionship or satisfaction of sex fantasies. Or both. In my case, the latter is a strong drive, whereupon my fantasy is to have a porn star experience (PSE) with a model-looking girls. Aside from that fantasy nothing really drives me to P4P (this, I know, may change in 10-20 years). So, this report is most valuable (if at all) to individuals with similar genesis of their P4P drive.
I went to many of the best-regarded soapies, go-goe bars and clubs in both cities. As long as 9s-10s in looks (again, ladies with no kids, fresh adorable baby-face. 18-23 yo. O, very slim legs and the rest, etc) none of these places produced the desired result. I placed particularly great hopes on high-end soapies (Amesterdam, Emanuelle and the likes in BKK; Air Force 1 and the like in Manila). To my astonishment, most talent there did not surpass free options available to me in the West. The were barely ok, at best. And no nothing is wrong with me, aside from high standards.
Once I did find a girl that was 'it'. It was near go-go bar in Soi Cowboy in BKK. After buying her a drink, she told me she's a kayote and can't go out. The rest of my samplings were 7s with meat-processing proclivities. Some even didn't want to go to my hotel, but preferred for quickie upstairs in the club. I can only immagine their attitudes towards less young and attractive!
I did sample the best-looking ladies I could find in each mongering category. The freebies from DIA were the most refreshing in my opinion (and not less good looking that P4P options). But, the scene overall left me unimpressed. From the reports here, I assume that oilies are a good place to provide PSE. This may as well be, but this PSE is provided typically by ladies that I won't touch even if someone pays me. So, I didn't partake much in the oilies, aside from a sampler. Are there astonishingly beautiful ladies in Phils / Thailand of course. But, similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists). Did I have fun on my trip? certainly, but only because of some connections and the fact that I did many other non-P4P activities that I greatly enjoyed.
Post-mortem: Unless you are A) over 45, have months of time to spend (dating, spotting talent, G-clubs, follow ups, translating quantity into quality etc) , and / or B) you are extremely unattractive to Western ladies consider for your sexual needs German FKKs (the most effective P4P option in the world in my opinion) or investing in your home options.
Disclaimer this is my personal opinion and does not represent a judgment or criticism of any of the esteemed members of this forum.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1418530]Tell us more about the customer stories!
I try to get my favorite to tell me about her bad customers but she just won't do it. I gave up a while back and came to the conclusion her other customers is not a topic for discussion.[/QUOTE]I heard this story from a girl in cupidity. Always love chatting with these girls between pops. She told me her most craziest experience. One Special ops guy with body like Rambo took her for two hours. He was on R&R break after some mission. He refused to get in soapy, fucked her six times in different position under 2 hours ie 20 minutes a pop! She was just changing condoms. Her pussy was sore and swollen with intense fucking. She had to take break for one week.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1418530]Tell us more about the customer stories!
I try to get my favorite to tell me about her bad customers but she just won't do it. I gave up a while back and came to the conclusion her other customers is not a topic for discussion.[/QUOTE]Maybe you are the bad customer and she doesn't want you to lose face.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1418672]Funny thing is 3 other guys showed interest in her after me- I've never seen that with this girl. She got barfined with the 4th guy.[/QUOTE]I used to always to talk to the gogo girls and try to run game. Every time I was done talking to them they would get barfined. Lurkers to pussy to make their move.
Same thing in American bars when I got done talking with hotties the guys thought they had balls and would follow. Kind of insulting, cause they thought they were better then me.
I think you went in with preconceived attitudes and noticed things that seemed to confirm these attitudes.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]I understand that most humans are driven to P4P scene by their lack of either companionship or satisfaction of sex fantasies. Or both.[/QUOTE]This statement is an over generalization. Some older men are drawn to the P4P scene because it's an easy way to have uncomplicated sex with a young woman. I'm in my early sixties and I still have opportunities to date and have sex with women ranging from my age to less than half my age. I have no desire to have sex with a woman older than forty; and the younger women I find are among the best looking in their age group; so naturally I'm inclined to gravitate towards them. Obviously, these are not young women looking for a guy their age to marry, at least not at this time. Some are drawn to older men because they are financially and socially secure; and they find men younger than forty dull and immature. They are tired of dating boys their age and are looking for a mature man with a wealth of experiences whom they can learn from and who has the means to give them a taste of the good life. The fact that older men have had more sexual experience with a wider range of women thus making them better lovers is also a factor. Some are gold diggers looking for a meal ticket. Rather than wine, dine and bed these women, and then sort out which category each falls into, it's simpler, easier and cheaper in the long run to just hook up with an SW. Also, by figuring out which women are sexually adventurous and cultivating their appetites, it's not too difficult find women who are not pros who enjoy acting out rather kinky fantasies. Personally, lack of companionship and the fulfillment of sexual fantasies have nothing to do with why I enjoy P4P.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]I went to many of the best-regarded soapies, go-goe bars and clubs in both cities. To my astonishment, most talent there did not surpass free options available to me in the West. The were barely ok, at best. And no nothing is wrong with me, aside from high standards.[/QUOTE]Anyone who has spent any time on ISG should know that in these venues the best you're going to find are 7's and 8's, except the big MP's on Ratchada do occasionally have 9's and 10's in their model category. Often these are women who appear in lingerie, bikini and nude photo shoots. However, it's not likely the papasan would introduce you to one of these women.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]Some even didn't want to go to my hotel, but preferred for quickie upstairs in the club. I can only immagine their attitudes towards less young and attractive![/QUOTE]You have a funny imagination. Generally SW prefer older men. High end escorts often state on their websites that they will not see men younger than 40, preferring men in their late forties and older. In general, SW don't like to have to deal with immature kids. As for your experiences, of course they just wanted a quickie upstairs. Time is money. The age of the John has nothing to do with it.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]The freebies from DIA were the most refreshing in my opinion (and not less good looking that P4P options). But, the scene overall left me unimpressed.[/QUOTE]Do you really think a highly desirable young woman anywhere in the world wants to have a short time dalliance with a guy from half way around the world? You will find either: women who have no good options and foolish hopes of finding a guy who will give them a better life; women who have given up that dream and now just want to hook up with a guy who will spend some money on them; or pros who market themselves on the internet.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]Are there astonishingly beautiful ladies in Phils / Thailand of course. But, similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists).[/QUOTE]When I was spending a lot of time doing business in East Asia I was 'introduced' to 9's and 10's by Asian businessmen. You are correct tourists are not likely to meet these women, but plenty of Asian beauties are available. These ladies were most definitely P4P, and I was paying for them rather indirectly.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]Post-mortem: Unless you are A) over 45, have months of time to spend (dating, spotting talent, G-clubs, follow ups, translating quantity into quality etc) , and / or B) you are extremely unattractive to Western ladies consider for your sexual needs German FKKs (the most effective P4P option in the world in my opinion) or investing in your home options.[/QUOTE]Again age has nothing to do with it. I've met young men pursuing economic opportunities in Southeast Asia who have learned the language and social customs and are dating smart, beautiful young local women; and we all know there are older men living in Bangkok who are in relationships with younger women. Also, the man's physical appearance per se has nothing to do with it. I've known several unattractive men with very attractive wives and girlfriends. Some offered status and money; others were just great guys and an excellent partner. It's common knowledge that a man's physical appearance is not the most important quality women look for. And, one of the things I find endearing about SW is that some will provide an opportunity for men with physical disabilities and disfigurements to have an enjoyable sexual experience with an attractive young lady.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]Disclaimer this is my personal opinion and does not represent a judgment or criticism of any of the esteemed members of this forum. &61514;[/QUOTE]Enjoyed your post. Glad you learned a few things on your trip. Keep traveling and keep an open mind. In another twenty years you may start getting a little bit intelligent. I laugh at myself when I think about how stupid I was when I was in my thirties and forties.
some girl i have been talking to tells me she started at rainbow 2 only five days ago. just broke up with boyfriend. used to work on cruise ship. 29 why / o for 1 week now.
she asks me for money and caught me at my weakest when i just had to cum and my now long list of freebies were not available.
real tight spinner bod with an ass that popped but not really my type in other minute ways and cut the 3000 long time session down to 2000 short. maybe i offered too much but whatever. 25% of time you generous, they generous back. very disappointing expenditure of funds, although the tight, wet pussy was very much to my liking. first round i was lame and went with her request on covered although i tried hard for uncovered. horrible instant ejaculation which i played off well to not be lame in her mind. after the dumby told me she got raped into uncovered i made sure the 2nd round was uncovered much to her initial disliking (light slap) she eventually got into it and said it was the longest she ever fucked which was nothing for me. 1/3 of the time i usually fuck and not even fully hard. probably following a baby dick ex boyfriend and a few bar fines. girl is a newbie and has a tight contracting pussy that gets wet, so if you want to fuck her, let me know, i will help you and her out. oh yeah, there were 2 great bbbj's in there. i just had to get her horny to start doing shit. she laughed when i said don't do that bar girl stuff or shit with me.
girl becomes more and more friendly, thinks i'm attractive and asks for my facebook afterwards. not the most farfetched thing that i could have a much cheaper or free session in future with her. maybe she contact me 6 months from now. i don't really give a fuck. just planting seeds in thailand.
wish i held out to tomorrow in cambodia where i will be paying less and could have an extra nut or 2.
[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1418626]It is time, as promised, to summarize my thoughts on the Asian travels completed today. Here it goes:
The punch line the added value of an Phils / Thai mongering trip grows exponentially to the age of the punter. This value is also decreases with the lengh of stay. In other words, older punters with plenty of time to spare at Phils / Thailand will benefit the most from these places. For young, good looking guys on a relatively short trips it is perhaps worthwhile waiting for 20 years to maximize the value of such a trip (unless, of course, there is a direct introductions form local contacts involved or all expenses paid business trip) and rather focus on German FKKs or their home grounds.
Now in more detail. I've conducted extensive tasting of Manila and Bangkok. Few points on the author, so to speak to understand my perspective. I'm relatively young, not on a budget. I have ample options to f*k for free 7s (in looks) , if not 8s in the West (I know, I know there now such thing 'for free', but I chose not to account here for the investment of time, meals, drinks, etc that female companionship typically require). I understand that most humans are driven to P4P scene by their lack of either companionship or satisfaction of sex fantasies. Or both. In my case, the latter is a strong drive, whereupon my fantasy is to have a porn star experience (PSE) with a model-looking girls. Aside from that fantasy nothing really drives me to P4P (this, I know, may change in 10-20 years). So, this report is most valuable (if at all) to individuals with similar genesis of their P4P drive.
I went to many of the best-regarded soapies, go-goe bars and clubs in both cities. As long as 9s-10s in looks (again, ladies with no kids, fresh adorable baby-face. 18-23 why. O, very slim legs and the rest, etc) none of these places produced the desired result. I placed particularly great hopes on high-end soapies (Amesterdam, Emanuelle and the likes in BKK; Air Force 1 and the like in Manila). To my astonishment, most talent there did not surpass free options available to me in the West. The were barely ok, at best. And no nothing is wrong with me, aside from high standards.
Once I did find a girl that was 'it'. It was near go-go bar in Soi Cowboy in BKK. After buying her a drink, she told me she's a kayote and can't go out. The rest of my samplings were 7s with meat-processing proclivities. Some even didn't want to go to my hotel, but preferred for quickie upstairs in the club. I can only immagine their attitudes towards less young and attractive!
I did sample the best-looking ladies I could find in each mongering category. The freebies from DIA were the most refreshing in my opinion (and not less good looking that P4P options). But, the scene overall left me unimpressed. From the reports here, I assume that oilies are a good place to provide PSE. This may as well be, but this PSE is provided typically by ladies that I won't touch even if someone pays me. So, I didn't partake much in the oilies, aside from a sampler. Are there astonishingly beautiful ladies in Phils / Thailand of course. But, similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists). Did I have fun on my trip? certainly, but only because of some connections and the fact that I did many other non-P4P activities that I greatly enjoyed.
Post-mortem: Unless you are A) over 45, have months of time to spend (dating, spotting talent, G-clubs, follow ups, translating quantity into quality etc) , and / or B) you are extremely unattractive to Western ladies consider for your sexual needs German FKKs (the most effective P4P option in the world in my opinion) or investing in your home options.
Disclaimer this is my personal opinion and does not represent a judgment or criticism of any of the esteemed members of this forum. &61514; [/QUOTE]I think you've added a new criteria, as I don't recall PSE being listed before (which I see above) , as with you before it was more like "passionate" (inferring GFE) along your other minimum criteria: "young 18 to 23" "fresh faced" "gorgeous" "long leg" "slender" "model types". I also see the "no silicone" requirement for the first time, the big problem there is slender girls by definition often need some help in that regard, so that will rule out many girls by itself.
Ok, you say you're "not on a budget", but I presume you do not have unlimited funds, because you're criteria (young gorgeous women in quantity) especially for a 10 to 14 day visit) were more in line with a Saudi oil billionaire or someone extremely wealthy, a rock star, or a young guy having the appeal of a Hollywood movie star, or some combination of the three.
(as a BACKGROUND NOTE, despite commentators in here recently saying the 1 to 10 rating system is subjective, in fact the overall rating system excluding outliers is really not) and its why Victoria's Secret Models, NFL Cheerleaders, Miss World constestants, Miss Universe, Playboy models, Penthouse models, and 1000 different entities around the world FOR THE MOST PART use similar standards, and while not ideal for 100% of males, overall its THE general standard for the vast majority of men in the world (especially the industrialized world) use to judge female beauty. As for beauty among different cultures, there is in fact (despite some differences) a remarkable overall consistency when comparing between differing cultures, and one can easily look up the recent (scientific) literature in support of that premise. Males are generally programmed worldwide to respond to certain fertility cues presented in terms of symmetry markers in females. So while nominally shallow in theory, in reality it has a Darwinian natural selection logic and evolutionary purpose, basically to increase the odds of human survival.
Generally one might call 7's as somewhat "hot" girl next door types, 8's as ultra hot, 9's model level "gorgeous" and (the very rare) 10s as world class level. You can quibble between what a 7.25 is vs a 7.75, but I believe that's the general framework. Yes, some guys like heavier women, girls with stubby legs, girls with huge asses, non symetrical waist ratios and so forth, but MOST men will be generally consistent when defining what a 9 or higher female looks like, and they will certainly know a 10 from a 7.
Now in your case, I understand you only really want 9's and 10's as you said you can sometimes even get 8's and your home country. Referring to these same 9 or higher girls, you also broadbrush (the entire world in fact) by saying "similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists"). That is not an accurate statement.
While you're quest is OK, its too bad you don't simply like "ultra hot" 8's because while short of perfection, they can have offsetting factors making them extremely attractive. In your statement from XGuide a few years ago referring to FKK World Gissen you mentioned even there you only found ONE single (presumptively) 9 or higher female, ("The reason I mention Justina is that she's one of the most gorgeous girls I've seend in FKKs. I'd give her 9-10.") who you then say was in love with herself. Your standards are nearly impossible, because once you hit 9 level, the other criteria such as "passion" or "chemistry" become increasingly more improbable.
(quoting Aibolit from X Guide)
"Just returned from 2 trips to World. Just a few words about myself, as this would allow you to better understand my report. I am relatively young, not bad looking, but I have a serious problem. I can play only with very young girls (18-24) that have a fresh not working girl-looking face, not an ounze of fat, long legs, no silicon. In short, unless I have an optifuck, I can not enjoy myself. It is a limitation. I know. It is further exacerbated by my insistance to have a semblance of chemistry. Robotic fucking with a girl giving me attitude kills it for me.
I have been trying to find what I want during all my world travels. And I had many. I have to say that so far, FKKs and World in particular have been able to provide me with the best opportunity to approach my ideal (to be honest, my ideal is non-pro beaty, but I don't have time and / or skills and / or patience to find one).
Visit #1.
Came in mid-week and found good ratio of girls / gents. My first one was Anna. She's from Warsaw and colors her hair blond. The good thing about her is that she has a very seet smile and personality. She is pleasant talking and seems to like sex. She's playful and provided GFE experience. He body is slim, long legs. Her biggest asset is her mouth. When she's having sex she twists it in a very sexy way that I personally find irresistable. Highly recommend. No anal though.
Next was Melissa. Melissa is 20 whyear old from Bulgaria. She has energy and excellent body. Dark hair. Quite sensual and good kisser. Main problem. Bad teeth, but not too noticable. She's easy going quite playful. No anal.
After Melissa, I repeated with Anna, as she was just a beauty.
Visti #2. Weekend. Much less favorable men / women ratio.
Tried Melissa again. Another good 30 minutes.
Tried Romanian girl with perfect body. She was tiny, tight, beautiful legs. Named Andrea. She was a bit mechanical, but not too bad. Her looks were so hot (she's about 19) that I was done in few minutes to her surprise. I wanted to try her again, but later in the day there were too many man in general and many who wanted Andrea.
So, I went with Anna again. Anna told me about having a reach muslim dude invite her to joing him in a European city for a fuck fest. She also told me that she likes lesbian act. Too bad I was tired and the place was too crowded. I would have asked Anna to arrange the three-some.
I finished the day with another Polish girl, whose name I can't remember. For a reason. She was 1. 75 cm tall, dark hair, sharp nose and great figure. She was an ok fuck, but quite uninterested in the process. Good optical effect though.
I saw one girl at World that calls herself Justina from Warsaw. Her real name starts with R and she wares this letter on a neckless. The reason I mention Justina is that she's one of the most gorgeous girls I've seend in FKKs. I'd give her 9-10. I didn't session with her though. Why? Justina was completely and utterly frozen. She couldn't maintain a conversation to saave her life and was clearly in love with herself. I was convinced that she'd be pretty unpleasant in any respect, aside from looking at her, so I passed on her. It was difficult, as I have a weak spot for beaty like that.
In general, I saw 3-4 fuckable girls in World each day. For me, this is a huge number, as I consider myself lucky to find 1 with my narrow criteria. I think it's a great place to come, see and do the girl you like. This is particularly helpful for people like me that don't have time, trust only their own eyes and do not do well in clubs or other loud environments.
Hope this helps. Aibolit"
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[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1418626]It is time, as promised, to summarize my thoughts on the Asian travels completed today. Here it goes:
The punch line the added value of an Phils / Thai mongering trip grows exponentially to the age of the punter. This value is also decreases with the lengh of stay. In other words, older punters with plenty of time to spare at Phils / Thailand will benefit the most from these places. For young, good looking guys on a relatively short trips it is perhaps worthwhile waiting for 20 years to maximize the value of such a trip (unless, of course, there is a direct introductions form local contacts involved or all expenses paid business trip) and rather focus on German FKKs or their home grounds.
Now in more detail. I've conducted extensive tasting of Manila and Bangkok. Few points on the author, so to speak to understand my perspective. I'm relatively young, not on a budget. I have ample options to f*k for free 7s (in looks) , if not 8s in the West (I know, I know there now such thing 'for free', but I chose not to account here for the investment of time, meals, drinks, etc that female companionship typically require). I understand that most humans are driven to P4P scene by their lack of either companionship or satisfaction of sex fantasies. Or both. In my case, the latter is a strong drive, whereupon my fantasy is to have a porn star experience (PSE) with a model-looking girls. Aside from that fantasy nothing really drives me to P4P (this, I know, may change in 10-20 years). So, this report is most valuable (if at all) to individuals with similar genesis of their P4P drive.
I went to many of the best-regarded soapies, go-goe bars and clubs in both cities. As long as 9s-10s in looks (again, ladies with no kids, fresh adorable baby-face. 18-23 why. O, very slim legs and the rest, etc) none of these places produced the desired result. I placed particularly great hopes on high-end soapies (Amesterdam, Emanuelle and the likes in BKK; Air Force 1 and the like in Manila). To my astonishment, most talent there did not surpass free options available to me in the West. The were barely ok, at best. And no nothing is wrong with me, aside from high standards.
Once I did find a girl that was 'it'. It was near go-go bar in Soi Cowboy in BKK. After buying her a drink, she told me she's a kayote and can't go out. The rest of my samplings were 7s with meat-processing proclivities. Some even didn't want to go to my hotel, but preferred for quickie upstairs in the club. I can only immagine their attitudes towards less young and attractive!
I did sample the best-looking ladies I could find in each mongering category. The freebies from DIA were the most refreshing in my opinion (and not less good looking that P4P options). But, the scene overall left me unimpressed. From the reports here, I assume that oilies are a good place to provide PSE. This may as well be, but this PSE is provided typically by ladies that I won't touch even if someone pays me. So, I didn't partake much in the oilies, aside from a sampler. Are there astonishingly beautiful ladies in Phils / Thailand of course. But, similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists). Did I have fun on my trip? certainly, but only because of some connections and the fact that I did many other non-P4P activities that I greatly enjoyed.
Post-mortem: Unless you are A) over 45, have months of time to spend (dating, spotting talent, G-clubs, follow ups, translating quantity into quality etc) , and / or B) you are extremely unattractive to Western ladies consider for your sexual needs German FKKs (the most effective P4P option in the world in my opinion) or investing in your home options.
Disclaimer this is my personal opinion and does not represent a judgment or criticism of any of the esteemed members of this forum. &61514; [/QUOTE]I fucked quite a few of 9 and 10's. They don't do PSE unless you are Tom Brady or really open up the wallet. They are exceptional. So should you.
Why am I so free giving with my tips. I like to help others. What a softie.
Next time. Go to Baccara real early when they open. Sit right in the middle, where you can see the most girls at the best angles, then be ready to bar fine the first hottie you see instantly. If still nothing on the bottom floor and the top floor starts filling up, run up there and be ready to bar fine quick.
If you don't see a 9 or 10 in Baccara then you need to need to go to Club Tempations, Obsessions, Voodoo, or Casanova or the massage parlors in Silom because you do not have the same DNA as a straight man.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1418903]I fucked quite a few of 9 and 10's. They don't do PSE unless you are Tom Brady or really open up the wallet. They are exceptional. So should you.[/QUOTE]That is true as a general rule, and for this purpose focusing just on "gorgeous model level" 9's (as true 10's are very rare in nature) such rarified P4P hotties generally don't need to debase themselves by offering PSE with any total stranger with a few dollars in his pocket.
If an average (non rock star, not extremely wealthy, non movie star type) monger can routinely obtain (reasonably good at faking it) GFE with P4P 9 level providers, he's doing pretty well already."Chemistry" level GFE (the girl actually enjoying it at some level) is course far more likely with a 8 level or lower provider.
Note the the 1 to 10 scale, despite being imperfect, is by definition a purely visual standard, so the GFE and PSE issue is irrelevant anyways, along with the girl's personality including possible egomania or other character flaws.
It would be nice to have Ferraris and Lamborghinis all over the place and a garage like Tonight show host Jay Leno, but he's worth 180 million, but its not possible for most people, similarly Aibolit's level of standards including all his particular exacting requirements, in reality puts him in direct competition with world class level mongers. Proof of this is right in his X Guide comments in regard to FKK World Gissen where he talks about "Anna" who he's NOT EVEN VERIFIED he deems her a true 9 level or not."So, I went with Anna again. Anna told me about having a (to) reach (a) muslim dude (to) invite her to join him in a European city for a fuck fest."
A "fuck fest" using imports? So the "muslim dude" is flying hotties in? Lets say its London, where everyone knows 5 star hotels are 3 to 5 times the cost of Bangkok. So he's obviously paying for airfare and hotels plus the standard fees. Perhaps he has access to a private jet? (By the way, Tom Brady in fact has Net Jets) The point is a guy, even one moderately wealthy, simply cannot compete with such mongers, its not going to happen.
Lets review the known required standards Aibolit has listed at various times."9s-10s in looks" "ladies with no kids","tall" "fresh adorable baby-face." 18-23 year olds" "slender" "very slim legs" "gorgeous" long legged" "model types", no silicon bolt ons, who are "passionate" preferably where there is also mutual "chemistry" in "quantity" as "variety" is also important, who also offer full GFE and PSE.
What's being described at P4P levels in practical terms would primarily fall within the realm of 1. The ultra famous and / or 2. The ultra rich. Otherwise all bets are off (even young studs with game) of obtaining this level of quality in quantity, especially on a random short trip. Yes, a double digits millionaire net worth type or weathier guy could pull it off, lets say in Manila or elsewhere, but even he would need a staff member running interference ahead of time carrying a huge amount of cash contacting procurers and legit model agencies and so forth. With these types (short of Oil Sheik level wealth) its not likely ever to happen, as the potential legal exposure is a risk they always worry about, so in practical terms he's safer flying in his playthings he's carefully vetted over time.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1418820]I laugh at myself when I think about how stupid I was when I was in my thirties and forties.[/QUOTE]How true. Reminds me of the song:
Ooh-La-La by the Faces.
Poor old granddad.
I laughed at all his words.
I thought he was a bitter man.
He spoke of women's ways.
They'll trap you, then they use you.
Before you even know.
For love is blind and you're far too kind.
Don't ever let it show.
I wish that I knew what I know now.
When I was younger.
I wish that I knew what I know now.
When I was stronger.
The can-can's such a pretty show.
They'll steal your heart away.
But backstage back on earth again.
The dressing rooms are grey.
They come on strong and it ain't too long.
Before they make you feel a man.
But love is blind and you soon will find.
You're just a boy again.
When you want her lips, you get a cheek.
Makes you wonder where you are.
If you want some more and she's fast asleep.
Then she's twinkling with the stars.
Poor young grandson, there's nothing I can say.
You'll have to learn, just like me.
And that's the hardest way.
Ooh la la.
I wish that I knew what I know now.
When I was younger.
I wish that I knew what I know now.
When I was stronger
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1419081]How true. Reminds me of the song:[/QUOTE]To understand the near impossibility of Airbolit's criteria, even by German FKK standards, he's talking only 2% to 4% in that realm (after admitting they are "not top notch there either") at best as meeting his requirements (1 to 2 out of 50 as mentioned in the quote below).
His comments elsewhere on the net a couple years back in regard to discussions initiated by the topic of Lady Marmalade Parties in London are as follows:
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All,
I have not anticipated to stir such a debate! While Emma's response is as predictable as the zeal of the used car salesman's eagerness to sell his lemon at all costs, I was quite charmed by the diverse responses of fellow punters to my post. Let me reiterate that my opinion was not intended to criticize neither LMP devotees, nor the fine LMP establishment (even though Emma's response extinguished its chances to be rated a classy one in my book).
Taste is certainly a very personal thing, so let my opinion of LMP girls not offend anyone at all. I actually envy friends who have wider preferances than I am. I agree with some of you that my tastes are quite narrowly defined. I regret to admit that my spirit (and flash) is inspired solely at the sight of utmost beauty. That is why the sight of flabby leggs that seem to be an attribute of every LMP girl disappointed me greatly. After reading some posts, I even took another close look at the photos (that's all I have to judge, before shedding some money). A look that confirmed my initial opinion. I even reviewed Jewels photo again. With this kind of "beaty" the concept of "ugly" should be redefined! As I'm a skeptic, I wouldn't visit a place with the strange hope that in person the ladies will be better than on pictures. Usually, it's the other way around. Again, no offence, just my personal taste.
All that said, it is quite possible that what I like cannot be found in LMP-like establishments (although, I really hoped this wouldn't be the case). Why would a 20 whyear old beauty with impeccable fresh face and long slim legs would want to partake in LMP activities? FKK in Germany offers stunners, even though FKK talent is also not top notch in my book. I've been able to find what excites me in FKKs, but the choice there is from 50 girls, so 1-2 of them often fit the bill.
To sum up. I can't be happier for all the good people here who enjoy LMP talent. I truly do and there should be more of such establishments (I hear Emma growling.). In fact, there should be many more! (I hear her barking now.). Sadly, for the few of us who are cursed with a very romanticized sense of beauty, FKK remains to be the place.
Best to all of you. Aibolit.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1419081]How true. Reminds me of the song:
Ooh-La-La by the Faces.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed. Now that you mention it, I remember the song. Just tried to give it a listen on YouTube but the label has nixed it. Thanks for sharing the lyrics with all of us.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1418963]Chemistry guy checking in here. LOL.
Barfined that Rainbow 2 girl for 2, 200. Very nice girl. Absolute no chemistry I could sense. Funny thing is of the 3 Rainbow girls I've barfined on my current trip this one had the most bubbly personality, yet chemistry factor. None. Not even worth a 2nd try. LOL.
Like they say you win some, lose some.[/QUOTE]I assume you mean mutual chemistry (the kind that kicks standard GFE up a notch). You're saying she had no chemistry for you yet she has a bubbly personality? You get that at all with the girl that you've done 14 times with from Rainbow 4? Even though she charged you extra.
Where are the better streeet walkers, Bangkok or Singapore?
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[QUOTE=Harold444; 1419088]Just post her number. I want to verify what you have posted. You really think she may go FREE with you in the future. LOL? I pay bar 15 times I don't think I got a miniscule chance to even get a 5% discount on barfine number 16. LOL. What am I doing wrong?
I guess all girls are welcome to work at Rainbow 2. But a 29 year old would have a tough time competing against hot 22 year olds, unless she is one of the many 9s and 10s being spotted recently.[/QUOTE]LOL.
The only thing you did wrong was you forgot your hip waders before venturing into the bullshit.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1419088]Just post her number. I want to verify what you have posted. You really think she may go FREE with you in the future. LOL? I pay bar 15 times I don't think I got a miniscule chance to even get a 5% discount on barfine number 16. LOL. What am I doing wrong?
I guess all girls are welcome to work at Rainbow 2. But a 29 year old would have a tough time competing against hot 22 year olds, unless she is one of the many 9s and 10s being spotted recently.[/QUOTE]Well it wouldn't be the first time I paid a working girl and then became her free fuck buddy, although not advised unless you can fuck a woman better then she has ever been fucked.
She works at Rainbow 2 but I didn't bar fine. She came to my crib. She was willing to fuck for less but I paid her a little more to take off work. There was some physical attraction from her beforehand. I make mistakes and was too financially generous with this 1. Stayed in sick the day before and a rare 48 hours without bustin a nut clouded my judgement.
[QUOTE=Western787;1419126]I assume you mean mutual chemistry (the kind that kicks standard GFE up a notch). You're saying she had no chemistry for you yet she has a bubbly personality?[/QUOTE]Good chemistry has to be somewhat mutual I think and indicates you both liked each other, or appeared to, and she was willing to give you a good time, without star-fish stiff legs.
If the girl is able to give a good GFE sex experience, surely that is implying good apparent chemistry?
Checked Out Suzie Wong. Lineup was a bit weaker than usual despite a lot of girls.
A few too many over-weight girls. It does surprise me that so many girls so young can be carrying spare fat around the waist hips and thighs. A bit too many silicone jobs.
Okay a few nice bodies with rather ordinary faces stuck on them, a couple of stunning faces with crappy bodies attached. I am getting fussier these days. A few girls a bit too young (be careful). Most of my favourite girls were absent. Noi, Nit, Not, Yao all absent. I was thinking I might have to take Maa, the wayward slutty one with raspy voice, no class, but a good body and a good fuck. However the two girls I really wanted, not so young, but very experienced, reliable, and slim were booked by another customer (yes he took both of them). Fortunately it turned out he only needed a 1 hour short time, so it was possible for me to wait till they returned.
These 2 girls are so nice, he has been taking them day in and day out for the last month. LOL. That is going a bit far. Maybe. Apparently he may be like Bill Clinton. To be faithful to his wife, he doesn't have actual "sexual relations" with them meaning his cock is not allowed in the pussy. However they give him a lessy show and probably all sorts of oral is possible (I am just guessing he is like Bill). LOL. I don't know all the details. I hope he is not reading here as he will know exactly what I am talking about. I couldn't resist purely because I thought it was a bit amusing. Anyway I applaud his choice of the right two girls for the special assignment. Couldn't find two nicer bar girls that enjoy doing les things too.
I asked one of the girls, who is the best lessy licker in the bar and she proudly claimed it was herself without doubt. The 2 girls complained to me that they had not had a chance to do the lesbian show in a long while (and they both like it) , meanwhile sexy / erotic shows last night are not really up to former standard. The weird type shows, I don't like to watch anyway.
However, it was good news to me that the girls had been doing all these bookings without getting actually screwed and should have been hot for it by now, and knowing these girls. LOL.
So we had a nice long session of 2 hours or so with lots of positions and including very long DATYs too. They gave me the date that the other customer would leave Thailand. I could wait till then to see them again, or simply go to the bar late evening after the other booking was concluded. They cannot disappoint such a very good customer as him, so I have to be 2nd in the queue. Meanwhile might need to ring some former favourites of the bar, currently up-country, and ask them when they will return to Bangkok, or to make the special trip for guaranteed earnings.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1419327]Checked Out Suzie Wong. Lineup was a bit weaker than usual despite a lot of girls.
Most of my favourite girls were absent. Noi, Nit, Not, Yao all absent.
However the two girls I really wanted, not so young, but very experienced, reliable, and slim were booked by another customer (yes he took both of them). Fortunately it turned out he only needed a 1 hour short time, so it was possible for me to wait till they returned.[/QUOTE]You mention other girl's names, but not these two. So who are they?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1419153]Where are the better streeet walkers, Bangkok or Singapore?[/QUOTE]I know it's PP but I will answer anyway. It depends on what you mean by better. All the SW in Singapore come with pimps who jack the price up when they see you are not a migrant worker from South Asia. A girl that is available for 35 you automatically get for no less than 100. It also seemed that all the girls were from Indonesia. A SW in BKK is freelance and you can bargain as you wish. They are usually Thai with a Laotian or Cambodian sprinkled in every so often (you can count the eastern Europeans and Africans as well.)
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1419153]Where are the better streeet walkers, Bangkok or Singapore?
][/QUOTE]Singapore wins hands down in both quantity and quality. There's tons of street walkers in the Geylang district. BKK street scene is crap these days
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1419412]Singapore wins hands down in both quantity and quality. There's tons of street walkers in the Geylang district. BKK street scene is crap these days[/QUOTE]Agreed. The street scene is BKK is awful and has been since the floods.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1419481]Agreed. The street scene is BKK is awful and has been since the floods.[/QUOTE]I guess for some.
For me it I find it better than ever.
[quote=harold444; 1419321]sad tale here. lol. ill try to keep it short.
two rainbow 2 girls. one from the past who i barfined multiple times before, all of a sudden with no reason she cut me off-still don't know why-i digress. and one recent one, awesome face- just stands out among her peers.
the one from the past cut me off soon after she got implants. prior to them she had no trubble getting barfined, i vaguely remember having to wait days at a time before it was my turn. lol. now she rarely even gets ladydrinks. i got to believe its the implants that is her problem. even after a few years she still has the same pretty face, same body- not fat.
don't know why good earners do it, never will. i do see why bad earners do it- makes sense.[/quote]most common reason for a girl to dump you completely is if your dick put her out of action for a period where she could not make money. this is a way to accidentally to scare girls off badly. i am not saying this is the only reason but most common one i have experienced. obviously another reason could be she has put her price up and doesn't believe you will pay. another possibility is she has fallen for some guy, and now wants to do real quick jobs only, and perhaps you want more than that.
as for the silly-cones, i agree completely, they are a dime a dozen. unless one of the rarely really professional subtle jobs, they are probably not helping the girl that was previously popular for good natural looks.
i take some girls with completely flat tits, if she otherwise is great. tit size is not that important to me. its more about natural beauty. the fake stuff is no use to me. guys who like everything fake could go lb or buy a doll, right? lol
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1419330]You mention other girl's names, but not these two. So who are they?[/QUOTE]I might reveal later, after "Bill C" completes his holiday in a few days time.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1419491]I guess for some.
For me it I find it better than ever.[/QUOTE]As far as streetwalkers, the ones who stand out on the street, not freelancers at the beer garden, Thermos, or discos. I've only seen one good one in a year and she approached me, to this day I've never seen a better one, and that was more than a year ago. Suffice to say, the other day I was at Terminal 21 waiting to see Ironman 3 and I see her with an older gentlemen LOL. I was with the GF and didn't want her to see me LOL. But whoever the guy was, he was in for a good time!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1419548]I am not saying this is the only reason but most common one I have experienced. Obviously another reason could be she has put her price up and doesn't believe you will pay. Another possibility is she has fallen for some guy, and now wants to do real quick jobs only, and perhaps you want more than that.[/QUOTE]How about if she's being sponsored or is in some other similar arrangement? Then just disrciminates more about who barfines her. Also in regard to Bolts-on, they can 1. Increase confidence 2. Make them feel better about themselves 3. Increase their visual appeal looking across a room at them 4. For some guys can actually be a big plus
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1419412]Singapore wins hands down in both quantity and quality. There's tons of street walkers in the Geylang district. BKK street scene is crap these days[/QUOTE]I've heard reports of SWs of various nationaities there, including China, Thailand, Vietnam, PI, Indonesia, etc. In Bangkok I've only seen mostly Thai & a few African & FSR. I'd figure Singapore is quite a bit more expensive, though, & not just for the ladies. It has also been said a number of times the SW there are pimped out, unlike the general rule around NEP, as Mr Enternational confirmed. When was the last time you were in Singapore? The news has been reporting LE crackdowns on the Geylang night walkers. Still, though, probably much more to offer than, say, Malaysia.
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[QUOTE=Western787;1419624]4. For some guys can actually be a big plus[/QUOTE]Yes I know, I was just stirring a bit. I can't fathom why guys like big silicones. They have no visual appeal to me unless look very natural.
I understand when girls with crappy tits get them modified. I don't understand why girls with really beautiful tits want to mess with them. Its not completely about the size I think.
An american guy in the bar other night was with a pretty Japanese girl. He asked me to help make the waitress understand that they wanted to call over a gogo girl with really big tits so his Japanese girl could see how they felt. Perhaps she was contemplating getting falsies and he was trying to put her off the idea. Anyway when I asked he confirmed that they wanted big silicones to touch to see how strange they were. I translated for the waitress. She then asked "silicone"? (to check) and he replied Yes. Then stupidly, she came back with a girl with big natural tits. So we had to explain again: "A girl with really big silicones please!" This time the silicones came over. In the end, he said that her silicones were underneath quite reasonably soft normal tit flesh and that his Japanese girl thought they were nice. So the plan back-fired I think.
For me it is only of minor importance how a girl arrange her boobs as long as they are not out of porpotion from the rest of her body (flatchested, biggys or everything in between I like to eat them nipples anyway). Silicone or not I don't care as I am not going to handle them on a regular basis anyway. For regular purpose or in GF material I set higher standards than in P4P. I think a girl should do what she feels is right for herself. If a set of bolt ons are good for P4P business or not I don't know I will for sure not be difficult as long as chemistry are to be had. But if they carry bolt ons I appreciate a well done boob job as those nasty scares can be a real turn off.
I remember a few years back in Bogota I brought back a tiny little spinner to my room thinking she did have some bolt ons as her tits looked huge compare to her bodysize. She was very reluctant in removing her bra and I could understand that when I saw those skinfolders falling down when I finaly made her remove it. These skinfolders was supposed to be her tits. They hanged down probably like 10cm or so (looking like a wrenched wet socks or sth). If I had known her under different sircumstances I would for sure treat her a boob job as I guess she would have appreciated one. Felt sorry for her.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1418271]Agreed there will be most action night time. However, my idea of a midday excursion (apart from the obvious) was to get my bearings of places in daylight so to make things easier at night. Also, once the job starts there will be no other daytime opportunities to see the highlights and the quality of the eye candy. I also need to sort out how to get to places from my hotel and better doing that daytime and at leisure rather than at night / after work when a part of my anatomy is demanding urgent attention.
Gali[/QUOTE]Hotel changed. Now in Sofitel Sukhumvit. Could hardly be better.
Gali
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1419632]I've heard reports of SWs of various nationaities there, including China, Thailand, Vietnam, PI, Indonesia, etc. In Bangkok I've only seen mostly Thai & a few African & FSR. I'd figure Singapore is quite a bit more expensive, though, & not just for the ladies. It has also been said a number of times the SW there are pimped out, unlike the general rule around NEP, as Mr Enternational confirmed. When was the last time you were in Singapore? The news has been reporting LE crackdowns on the Geylang night walkers. Still, though, probably much more to offer than, say, Malaysia.[/QUOTE]I'm certainly no expert in Singapore but the girls on the side streets of Geylang quoted me $60-80 SD from what I remember. At night, quality was on par with the better looking Thermae girls and the ones I talked to were mostly Thai. Along the side streets were many short time hotels and small massage parlors. In the hotel I stayed at, I saw a lot of johns bringing in their girls and some were very nice. I'm not sure how migrant workers would be able to afford these girls, I saw a lot of nice cars trolling the area for hookers and also parked at the massage parlors. I walked into one of the nearby massage parlor, I can't remember the price he quoted, but it was reasonable. What was not reasonable was the manager said only CBJ was allowed so I gave it a pass.
During the day along the main road, there were a lot of street walkers. These ones looked mostly Chinese, I didn't ask the price though, but the quality seemed pretty good, not stunning, yet far better than what could be found on the streets of Sukhumvit, especially with all those elderly girls plying their trade LOL.
Yes, there were pimps on site, but they were just regular Joe Chinese guy, not Tony Montana wannabes LOL
Today in Suzie Wong (Soi Cowboy) was Anne with whitish skin. She had a great body when she first started at SW. Then she lost weight and her tits shrunk a bit. Recent enhancement has taken them from very good B cup to now a wide slung D (or double D. I don't know exactly). Nipples seem permanently erect now. They are a bit firm but quite an impressive shaped job costing 75000 Baht. Perhaps she has become more in demand with extra large ones. Who knows? I thought her tits were very beautiful unenhanced. Now they are sort of a shock value.
I did not take Anne. Went with Naam and Not, both small tits but known to me as very good on bed. Not the same 2 as other night. Strangely lineup had improved a bit from Sunday night and I did not show up till well past 11PM. Several reasonable choices available.
Seems to be a lack of field reports. Is no one actually trying any new girls or trying any new places in Bangkok?
Or just not willing to share any intel?
Okay we have some reports coming in, I exaggerate, but its not very many.
Is the forum still worthwhile?
I hope it never goes as bad as the World S*x Guide.
A normal oilmassage is about 300bth but how much extra should we pay just for a simple handjob after the massage?
Is 500bth normal so 800 bth in total for massage and handjob?
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1419967]Seems to be a lack of field reports. Is no one actually trying any new girls or trying any new places in Bangkok?
Or just not willing to share any intel?
Okay we have some reports coming in, I exaggerate, but its not very many.
Is the forum still worthwhile.[/QUOTE]Guess it is the low season and tourists are staying home in Europe and USA?
Mind you all the moans from old lags about newbies paying 'over the odds' may just put people off posting.
To them I say 'get over it'. The 250 baht fine is long gone, the 500 L / T vanished years ago and all the latest crop of ladies look like crap.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1419967]just not willing to share any intel?[/QUOTE]Yup, action and new girls being sampled with now 3 favs for me in the Oilies and 1 in the soapies, but just not bothered to share the intel.
What's the point? To make them popular to the point where I can no longer see them or book them? Thanks but no Thanks.
Remember YOK? That girl was never busy for a couple months but then she became a superstar and some guys were taking her out for days at a time.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1419967]Seems to be a lack of field reports. Is no one actually trying any new girls or trying any new places in Bangkok?
Or just not willing to share any intel?
Okay we have some reports coming in, I exaggerate, but its not very many.
Is the forum still worthwhile?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1420052]Yup, action and new girls being sampled with now 3 favs for me in the Oilies and 1 in the soapies, but just not bothered to share the intel.
What's the point? To make them popular to the point where I can no longer see them or book them? Thanks but no Thanks.
Remember YOK? That girl was never busy for a couple months but then she became a superstar and some guys were taking her out for days at a time.[/QUOTE]Mr. N Frenchy, you are to be commended for your most enlightened attitude. You exemplify the kind of men we want to have contributing to this forum. I have the utmost respect for you. I think we should all offer this gentleman a heartfelt thanks for his contributions to ISG.
All the forums are slow from what I can see. The Singaporean forum seams to have frequent postings but a lot of chatting too. I walked through cowboy yesterday and most of the people there had the thousand yard stare so I never entered any of the places to check inside. Why bother when even the customers outside look like they are in one of Dantes hells?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1417237]If you are in town when I am there, I will certainly buy you a pitcher of beer! You have entertained me with your exploits and recommendations.[/QUOTE]I have recovered from my last trip (as the end of my trip was spend with my Norwegian GF this recovery was not difficult) so I have allready booked myself a new ticket to my fav monger city Bangkok. Are you in town around the 29 of May? Then we could do "the grand exploration tour BASH 2013" together?
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1420107]Mr. N Frenchy, you are to be commended for your most enlightened attitude. You exemplify the kind of men we want to have contributing to this forum. I have the utmost respect for you. I think we should all offer this gentleman a heartfelt thanks for his contributions to ISG.[/QUOTE]Say, you are most welcome my brave sir, I am really trying my hardest to please the Populace
soms is surely sailing up as an obligatory visit place for me. i lacks the nastiness from places like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and lollipop1. the girls are sweet and in to providing service without complaining or teething your dick.
i took the girl next in rotation when i arrived and she was as pleasant as they come. i had tried to make it a luvpuss day so this was place number four and same amount of shots before. i don't quite had it in me today so i had to be satisfied with a dry wimpy little thing of an orgasm. the lady looked exasperated and thought she was providing bad service. i assured her she was super and not to worry. she tried to coax me back down in the sofa so she could get something in the rubber but i know a loosing battle when i see one so i ended it.
damage was 1320+200. fs, a drink and 200bath tip.
[QUOTE=Puttex;1419991]A normal oilmassage is about 300bth but how much extra should we pay just for a simple handjob after the massage? Is 500bth normal so 800 bth in total for massage and handjob?[/QUOTE]I suggest you read the oil massage forum where plenty of infos are available. What you pay to the establishment (the house fee, be it the 300 you mention or more, depending on time and type) has nothing to do with what you pay, separately, to the girl for her services. Her earning comes from what she will mention as tip (or girl fee) and she expects the 500 as a HJ is always on the menu, rising the game at 1000 for a BJ and 1500 for FS. The girls will not mind what we consider a tip 8100 or 200 more) but this is "up to you" and should reward an excellent service, not a normal service.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1420112]I have recovered from my last trip (as the end of my trip was spend with my Norwegian GF this recovery was not difficult) so I have allready booked myself a new ticket to my fav monger city Bangkok. Are you in town around the 29 of May? Then we could do "the grand exploration tour BASH 2013" together?[/QUOTE]Will be arriving June 3 to 8. Haven't settled on a hotel, but will probably be the GP. With BASH open from midnight to dawn, I don't know if can be up that late! The offer still stands, will be glad to buy a pitcher of beer for you or smoke a cigar in front of the GP's Café 11.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1420285]Will be arriving June 3 to 8. Haven't settled on a hotel, but will probably be the GP. With BASH open from midnight to dawn, I don't know if can be up that late! The offer still stands, will be glad to buy a pitcher of beer for you or smoke a cigar in front of the GP's Café 11.[/QUOTE]Ok see you then. I have some mongering to attend to in Manila for a few days but I will be in the neighbourhood within your traveldates. WTF are you an early bird. But I will for sure test BASH with or without you. To make sure there will be no GF mix up in BKK this time I have booked tickets for her and a friend of hers to New York so shopping can keep them busy. I can not afford to take anymore chances.
Hi There!
Just back from my short stay in Bangkok, only couple of nights.
Went to Beer garden. During my last trip before this one, I was able to find a little better gal. Looks and body passable although same as the rest have kids.
This time, went to find again. But the level getting down further. End up going to Annies for some rub.
In Annies, same as the past, first CIM and then some medicore massage then f*k for 2nd time. First visit, girl #39, nice and naughty girl but good interaction. 2nd visit #41, bit old but still okay. Both of them said they cum twice with me. Is this true or SOP for them but actually, I can feel they are telling the truth. .
Cheers,
MD
[QUOTE=Macho Dik]In Annies, same as the past, first CIM and then some medicore massage then f*k for 2nd time. First visit, girl #39, nice and naughty girl but good interaction. 2nd visit #41, bit old but still okay. Both of them said they cum twice with me. Is this true or SOP for them but actually, I can feel they are telling the truth. .
Cheers,
MD[/QUOTE]There is no way for others to know what you experienced. Only the girl really knows for sure. What she says is not really relevant. Working girls never cum! Ha Ha. Just kidding. It's naive to believe they never enjoy it even if is not so frequent. Depends on skill of guy and girl's willingness.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1419481]Agreed. The street scene is BKK is awful and has been since the floods.[/QUOTE]I don't quite agree. I was there last month and staying at a hotel in Soi 7/11 near where Dr BJ is. Apart from the local fls and wls there, there were even russkies (russians plying their wares and trade) and I even managed to hit it off with a Turkish wl whom I found in Soi 7. She looked like she is a tourist shopping for dresses from the stalls there. When she saw me and we made eye contact, she came over and got straight to the point asking me whether I want a BJ or not as she said she gives the best BJ town for 1, 500 Baht. Took her back to my hotel (Maxim Inn) and after a round of a good BJ, she proposed fj for another 1, 000 Baht which I agreed and she went cowgirl first, followed by doggie, offered her ass as well before allowing me to finish off with mish. After that she layed with me in bed and chatted. Found out she is from Turkey, a divorcee with 1 kid back home. She comes to BKK every now and then for 2 weeks before going over to the border for another 2 weeks and come back again for another 2 weeks plying her trade. Sorry no photos but she is slim-sized with B cups boobs, slim hips and a 3 holer.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1420341]Ok see you then. I have some mongering to attend to in Manila for a few days but I will be in the neighbourhood within your traveldates. WTF are you an early bird. But I will for sure test BASH with or without you. To make sure there will be no GF mix up in BKK this time I have booked tickets for her and a friend of hers to New York so shopping can keep them busy. I can not afford to take anymore chances.[/QUOTE]Ok, see you when I see you, as the saying goes.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1420378]Actually divulging favorites does have its risk. LOL.[/QUOTE]I can understand why one would not want to publicize the girls who are good performers; but I thought the point of this forum is to share information about the international P4P scene. If we tell the world a particular go-go girl is a great performer she's going to get more BF and not be as available. That is not an issue with the MP girls as we can always book our favorites in advance. What I don't understand is why someone would post about having identified a favorite girl and then not disclose the girl's name. Why would he bother making the post in the first place?
Bangkok Street: A major change has taken place on Sukum from soi 3 to soi 21. The new stores entrances during the day have remove all the girls in the day time and this is also true for evening until the vendor come on about midnight. The new hotels with drive up have security an also have sent them away. NEP and Soi Cowboy is all that remains. Grace Hotel not the same. And the there were places like Wild Country on Soi 24. Things change.
Not to be negative just want to share this is posted in Phil AC but applies everywhere.
Internet Bulletin Boards & Social Networks.
The internet continues to have both a positive and a negative impact on Angeles City and many destinations around the world.
Through the internet it is now easy to perform a search on a destination and get detailed information about hotels, restaurants, tourist activities, and even nightlife. You can make reservations quickly through email. But, IMO the negative impacts of internet bulletin boards and social media sights far outweighs the positive when it comes to single male tourists visiting the Philippines. Many guys return from a trip to the PI and cannot resist posting explicit photos and details of their trip on the internet without a thought of the impact to the girls or the businesses they name in these posts.
Flash back to the mid 90&65533; s a guy named Rob Valarie posted on a open website that guys could buy a girl on Santos Street for the price of a cheeseburger. It wasn&65533; t long before one of the national newspapers picked up on the story. Within a day, all the national daily papers found the website and wrote more articles condemning him and his web postings. Pressure on the mayor from the President had the police beating the bushes for Rob. He disappeared and his postings stopped. He disappeared and has never been heard from again. But, he had a lasting effect. The pressure on the mayor to clean up the entertainment area led to an extended ban on bikini&65533; s in the clubs even though the girls on Eat Bulaga wore more revealing clothes on daytime TV than was allowed in the clubs of AC.
Over the years other internet posts have led directly to raids on clubs or individuals private residences. Despite very few convictions and incarcerations (most probably because of large sums of money changing hands between the accused and the authorities). One side effect of these raids has been an increased presence of NGO&65533; s with funding to attack the evil nightclubs. In the last few years numerous clubs have been raided on tips that the club employs under-aged girls. In the majority of the raids it turns out that there were no under-aged girls present unless it was the occasional plant by the NGO&65533; s. Still, clubs stay closed for months or even years and some legal employees languish in jail for months or years without any formal charges or hearings before a judge. Still another side effect is increased funding for these NGO&65533; s for making another successful bar closure, even if it is usually temporary.
To combat this problem, many local bulletin boards were converted to pay sites. Most of those that are not pay sites still require a password to access the postings. This has helped shield some of the harmful information from public viewing, but it is only a matter of time before some of these increasingly well funded NGO&65533; s start penetrating local adult sites.
In addition to the NGO&65533; s, there are individuals around Asia putting up websites where people can turn in individuals. These range from: a guy in Cebu that has a &65533; Wall of Shame&65533; about foreigners behaving inappropriately; to the Department of Special Investigation in Thailand which has announced the launch of a facebook page
[QUOTE=Strikesfun;1420542]Bangkok Street: A major change has taken place on Sukum from soi 3 to soi 21. The new stores entrances during the day have remove all the girls in the day time and this is also true for evening until the vendor come on about midnight. The new hotels with drive up have security an also have sent them away. NEP and Soi Cowboy is all that remains. Grace Hotel not the same. And the there were places like Wild Country on Soi 24. Things change.[/QUOTE]Your post as it refers to Angeles sounds informed although my experience from a couple of visits was that it was a wide open cheap (500 baht ST) mongering destination for seniors. However your comments on Sukhumvit are in my opinion somewhat off the mark. It's true that while both Terminal 21 and the new Sofitel hotel have removed vendors from the space in front of their properties the rest of the stretch from 3 to 21 remains the same. The only recent development of note are the men in brown who target tourists lighting up who because there is nowhere to discard it throw the butt on the ground. They are then led back to the "table" and hustled out of up to 2000 baht for littering. Working girls, stalls selling everything from hard core porn to huge dildos (how does your average Thai pussy manage to take one) fake Viagra and a myriad of other performance enhancing pills and jellies are all available. A string of ad hoc booze stalls that spring up from about 10pm on stretching into the surrounding soi's pay the highest kickbacks. The stretch from soi 3 to soi 7 have the highest concentration of and variety of working girls and I for one have not noticed any decline in numbers.
Have not really looked at the non-Thais. I was referring to the Thai scene. \
[QUOTE=Strikesfun;1420542]Bangkok Street: A major change has taken place on Sukum from soi 3 to soi 21. The new stores entrances during the day have remove all the girls in the day time and this is also true for evening until the vendor come on about midnight. The new hotels with drive up have security an also have sent them away. NEP and Soi Cowboy is all that remains. Grace Hotel not the same. And the there were places like Wild Country on Soi 24. Things change.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I understand the major change here. If my eyes were correct, there never were hardly any street walkers on the streets during the day time. There may have been a few desperate ones here and there. When was the last time you were in BKK. 1978?
This is like saying a major change has happened in the NFL, all players are require to wear helmets LOL
field reports.
my first hour on the continent (3 months ago) i scooped a hot light skinned bad girl 19 why / o spinner at bill board a go go right before close. 2 dorks staring shell shocked, stuck with a bunch of 3's. maybe trying to get my girl after work to avoid bar fine. their loss, my gain. pussy was wet and tight and all time best moans, japanese style, just how i like it. day 2 a really nice fat ass but a jacked up belly at mandarin. day 3 met my girlfriend.
customer stories.
my gf is sweet as can be and speaks good english and makes a lot of her income not even through fucking. many of ballers come through those doors and have paid her great money just for talking. it's really incredible, some of these girls are on the online dating sites and guys sending them money, jewels, and electronics and they never even met them. top earners that are attractive and go with any man can make around 200, 000 / mo i believe. unlike most girls, my girl won't fuck guys older then her dad. i thought that would be easy money for her, maybe they lack endurance or something. she insists they are the grossest, try to stick fingers up her ass at work and such, idk. girls steal each other's stuff every night. the bars [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] them sometimes for petty shit. other expenses like transportation, aids tests, and looking pretty. some girls spend 10, 000 / month on hair. the girl's that get the least action will accept 1k at her place. girls get way too drunk and are at their customer's mercy.
In general things do not change much and change very slowly. However it strikes me that Soi Cowboy has been undergoing a fair amount of change. The lease prices have been going up a lot. That caused the closure of Sheba and a new bar (in Shark group) opened. Not sure if it is getting any business at all. Has anyone been in there?
I believe its bad that the LBs are increasing all the time. Not just Cock-a-two, but saw LBs sitting in front of 5-Star today, a bit of a shock, and Deja Vu had a small number of LBs since years.
The worst problem causing jack up of prices is "the Arab" buying up so many bars and moving in largely unwanted Coyote Dancers. I think there is a place for Coyote but that Soi Cowboy is not really the place for it to do well, and we certainly don't need many Coyote bars in same street. Having been into some of the "The Arab's" bars, I note that they are generally not very busy and appear to have no chance of making good money. The rumour goes that making money is not the point at all, but more to launder money and have an excuse as to where the money comes from when the real money is actually being made on other illicit things.
When other bars' leases comes up for renewal, will they be able to afford the new high prices, or will be gradually see the closing of many of the traditional older style of bars? Will Doll's House, Long Gun, Raw Hide, Suzie Wong, Toy Bar etc. All be facing closure in the not too distant future?
Naturally all those who hate bar-girls won't give a shit, but I certainly get some good fun out of bar-girls, and still like to see a set of naked girls on occasions, so I know exactly what the bodies are like, and so I can sit with girls for significant periods to gauge chemistry.
What happens to the famous Thermae? I went there Fri night around 3am and the door was locked.
OS
Where would be best to find a girl for maybe a week to travel with. I'd like to get a girl when I get into BKK then go to an island with her maybe Samui or Phangan or Phi Phi. I was in Bangkok last month and stuck to a few of the massage palors (Annies, Mangos, Cherry) also used Goldies Agency Bangkok Gold. Didn't make it to into Nana or Soi Cowboy for gogo girls. Never asked the massage girls if they would be down for a trip. I What do you think the daily rates would be? Also any of you can recommend an island over the other?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1419751]I'm certainly no expert in Singapore but the girls on the side streets of Geylang quoted me $60-80 SD from what I remember. At night, quality was on par with the better looking Thermae girls and the ones I talked to were mostly Thai. Along the side streets were many short time hotels and small massage parlors. In the hotel I stayed at, I saw a lot of johns bringing in their girls and some were very nice. I'm not sure how migrant workers would be able to afford these girls, I saw a lot of nice cars trolling the area for hookers and also parked at the massage parlors. I walked into one of the nearby massage parlor, I can't remember the price he quoted, but it was reasonable. What was not reasonable was the manager said only CBJ was allowed so I gave it a pass.
During the day along the main road, there were a lot of street walkers. These ones looked mostly Chinese, I didn't ask the price though, but the quality seemed pretty good, not stunning, yet far better than what could be found on the streets of Sukhumvit, especially with all those elderly girls plying their trade LOL.
Yes, there were pimps on site, but they were just regular Joe Chinese guy, not Tony Montana wannabes LOL[/QUOTE]Does any of this look familiar, that is the following video of Geyland SWs in 2008?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWWlXHGkcok[/url]
IMO the looks of those SWs are quite comparable to what I saw working the streets in the NEP area of BKK earlier this year & since 2007.
I doubt much of anything has changed in BKK in the last couple months.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1421025]In general things do not change much and change very slowly. However it strikes me that Soi Cowboy has been undergoing a fair amount of change. The lease prices have been going up a lot. That caused the closure of Sheba and a new bar (in Shark group) opened. Not sure if it is getting any business at all. Has anyone been in there?
I believe its bad that the LBs are increasing all the time. Not just Cock-a-two, but saw LBs sitting in front of 5-Star today, a bit of a shock, and Deja Vu had a small number of LBs since years.
The worst problem causing jack up of prices is "the Arab" buying up so many bars and moving in largely unwanted Coyote Dancers. I think there is a place for Coyote but that Soi Cowboy is not really the place for it to do well, and we certainly don't need many Coyote bars in same street. Having been into some of the "The Arab's" bars, I note that they are generally not very busy and appear to have no chance of making good money. The rumour goes that making money is not the point at all, but more to launder money and have an excuse as to where the money comes from when the real money is actually being made on other illicit things.
When other bars' leases comes up for renewal, will they be able to afford the new high prices, or will be gradually see the closing of many of the traditional older style of bars? Will Doll's House, Long Gun, Raw Hide, Suzie Wong, Toy Bar etc. All be facing closure in the not too distant future?
Naturally all those who hate bar-girls won't give a shit, but I certainly get some good fun out of bar-girls, and still like to see a set of naked girls on occasions, so I know exactly what the bodies are like, and so I can sit with girls for significant periods to gauge chemistry.[/QUOTE]The shophouses on Cowboy are owned by different individuals. If it were one owner, it would have been gone a long time ago as Asoke is one of the most valuable areas in the city. The changes in Cowboy can be partly blamed on "The Arab." Midnight was my hangout for several years till he bought the bar. Ruined it overnight. Higher drink prices, neon,"bait" girls, etc. Sadly many of the other bar owners followed his lead. Cowboy is no longer the ex-pat hangout it was when I moved to BKK. Hangover II did not help either. Sit outside any bar and you will see gawking tourists making their way through the soi. Seeing a Western woman used to be a rarity, now it is common. GoGos are becoming tourist attractions, kind of like Bourbon St in NO or many parts of LV. Back in the day it was the exclusive domain of the monger, not anymore. Hey, that's progress.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1421087]The shophouses on Cowboy are owned by different individuals. .Back in the day it was the exclusive domain of the monger, not anymore. Hey, that's progress.[/QUOTE]History of Soi Cowboy, lifted from another website :
"There are different versions as to how the place came to be known as 'Cowboy'. Here is one of the more accepted ones :
An African American by the name of Edwards was one of the first, if not the first to open a bar in this area, an off shoot of Vietnam R & R, cause Soi Cowboy was there, up and running in the 1970's. His nickname was 'Cowboy' cause he wore cowboy gear and actually rode a horse in and out of that Soi. The popularity of his bar, attracted other punters (bar owners) to the Soi which people then called 'Cowboy'". There should be a monument to honour this gent.
Meet very hot 22 Y.O. strong 9. Sensing little to no initial interest, tried a wild move and told her I had a girlfriend which seemed to excite her and asking me questions. Then we drank our ass off all night & danced at a couple spots. 800 damage to me and she also picked up a few rounds. Taxi driver taking forever to take us home. Thinking he is going to cost me a fuck be / see we are both zombies. Negative. Get it in along with BJ and cum on her in the room. We pass out and walk her out. I love when they fall asleep with my cum on them. So naughty. More nights like this. Think I know how to pull 9's and 10's here now. Fuck yeah.
A few weeks ago, I visted Soi Cowboy once more and went straight to Suzie Wong, my favourite place in that street. I arrived a bit early, around 9PM but the club was aready half filled. The mamasan showed me to a nice spot, close to the entrance on the left side. This is a good spot as all girls have to pass there when going on and off stage.
As usual in Suzie Wong the girls "dance" naked and it seems they have two groups of girls: one group wearing black fishnet stockings and the other group wearing red fishnet stockings. There is something there for everyone: small tits or bigger tits, shaved pussies or trimmed or bushy, younger or older girls, long hair or short hair, tattoos or not. This time I had set my fancy on a small tits, trimmed pussy, long haired lady and there were indeed several to choose from. I made eye contact with some of these, some appeared not to notice me, some other smiled back and one came straight to me after her dance routine, wearing nothing but her fishnet stockings.
Her name is Tun (or Toon) .35 year old (but looking late 20s) , no kids. I could see and feel she has small and firm tits with big nipples (my favourite) , a firm body but not skinny and a nice pussy with its hair trimmed into a landing strip. I offered her a lady drink and she came back with "whiskey" which I suspect was just cola with ice and water because when I kissed her I could taste no alcohol on her.
After some of the usual chatting we negotiated for LT. Her initial offer was 4000 baht but it was easy to bring it down to 3000 baht. I think that she might have gone down even more as she later confessed business has been slow and she had not been barfined for over 2 weeks. But 3000 baht is OK for me.
Back in the hotel we took a shower together (that is already a promising start) and she started with a slow blow job. I stopped her as I did not want to have all the fun in the shower. I gave her pussy a few licks and got a good look at it. It seemed freshly shaved except for the landing strip, and smelled and tasted fresh and clean.
Then it was off to the bedroom and we got into heavy hugging and kissing. DFK was very nice and got us both aroused. Her nipples were erect by now and I nibbled and sucked them softly. She was riding her pussy against my tigh and I could feel her wetness. Time for me to move to her pussy and sample her honey. How sweet it tasted! Licking and fingering her pussy brought her to an orgasm which I think was genuine since for a few minutes afterwards everywhere I touched her would bring her involuntary shivers as she laid with closed eyes. By now I sported a strong erection and after putting on a condom, I started fucking her in mish. Her pussy was really tight but also very wet, so there was no problem entering her. She moved herself in a nice rhytm and it did not take me too long to have my first orgasm too. We both freshened ourselves up a bit and then watched some TV.
After a while I slowly started to stroke her nipples again and when I saw them responding we DFKed. This time she took the lead and started stroking my dick, licking and sucking my nipples whilst I fingered her pussy and got it dripping wet again. I could not resist and licked and fingered her pussy to another orgasm. She opened her legs and asked me to fuck her again. I turned her on her knees and entered her in doggy style. She was very wet and hot and I got my dick very deep in her. I held her tits in my hands and played with her nipples while fucking her. This was one of the best fucks I had in a long time. After my second orgasm we held each other 'GFE'-style and then I slipped out of her, her honey dripping out of her open pussy.
One more round of clean-up and we went to sleep in each other's arms.
Early morning she got up, showered, dressed, collected her 3000 baht fees (and some taxi money) and with a kiss and a hug left me.
This was once more a memorable fuck with a girl from Suzie Wong. All in all, I have never been disappointed by them: just don't negotiate them down to bargain basement prices but give them a fair fee; treat them nicely both inside the club and in your room and there is a good chance they will give you a good time.
[QUOTE=Old South;1421030]What happens to the famous Thermae? I went there Fri night around 3am and the door was locked.OS[/QUOTE]Was it usually opened at that time?
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1421087]Cowboy is no longer the ex-pat hangout it was when I moved to BKK. Hangover II did not help either.[/QUOTE]The world is also not same as before."Once upon a time", expats were the travellers, were those who saw new countries, sort of front line combats, flying to SEA was regarded as being an explorer.
There was no internet spreading news, informing and suggesting.
Today hundred times more people travels around the world. Emirates alone brings in 5 planes a day into BKK and one or two are A380 machines, plus a few european airlines, plus Qatar, plus Ethihad, Turkish, not to mention the increasing traffic from SEA and OZ / USA. Emirates has a daily flight to Phuket.
All these visitors are not the "expat" type, of course. They are tourists, visiting the country and a percentage is still the "monger-tourist", but it is a mass of them now (as much as the recession reduced a bit the numebrs)
It goes without saying it is more of an industry (everything now) , so there is a sort of industrial approach.
[QUOTE=Old South; 1421030]What happens to the famous Thermae? I went there Fri night around 3am and the door was locked.
OS[/QUOTE]LOL. It closes at 1 AM
BTW, a lot of times as I leave Thermae, I see a gal standing outside who looks like she's 60, is she a working girl?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1421151]LOL. It closes at 1 AM
BTW, a lot of times as I leave Thermae, I see a gal standing outside who looks like she's 60, is she a working girl?[/QUOTE]She used to be a waitress in Thermae, but they fired her because she was too old (58 years old) Now she does odd job for FLs doing.
Odd jobs and watching their stuff.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1421141]A few weeks ago, I visted Soi Cowboy once more and went straight to Suzie Wong, my favourite place in that street. I arrived a bit early, around 9PM but the club was aready half filled. The mamasan showed me to a nice spot, close to the entrance on the left side. This is a good spot as all girls have to pass there when going on and off stage.
As usual in Suzie Wong the girls "dance" naked and it seems they have two groups of girls: one group wearing black fishnet stockings and the other group wearing red fishnet stockings. There is something there for everyone: small tits or bigger tits, shaved pussies or trimmed or bushy, younger or older girls, long hair or short hair, tattoos or not. This time I had set my fancy on a small tits, trimmed pussy, long haired lady and there were indeed several to choose from. I made eye contact with some of these, some appeared not to notice me, some other smiled back and one came straight to me after her dance routine, wearing nothing but her fishnet stockings.
Her name is Tun (or Toon).35 year old (but looking late 20s) , no kids. I could see and feel she has small and firm tits with big nipples (my favourite) , a firm body but not skinny and a nice pussy with its hair trimmed into a landing strip. I offered her a lady drink and she came back with "whiskey" which I suspect was just cola with ice and water because when I kissed her I could taste no alcohol on her.
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This was once more a memorable fuck with a girl from Suzie Wong. All in all, I have never been disappointed by them: just don't negotiate them down to bargain basement prices but give them a fair fee; treat them nicely both inside the club and in your room and there is a good chance they will give you a good time.[/QUOTE]Its my favourite too now that Sheba has closed. There are many girls there are okay for me, above average looks without being stunning. If my favourites don't show its tougher though. There are plenty of very young girls that I don't consider, silicones I don't consider, and fatties also stuck off. Good Performers for me: Bo, Not, Dtom, Naam, Ma, and a couple of others. Anne is stuck off due to the double D enhancements, Dteuan struck off as too selfish, and Lai struck off (despite great body) due to too much acting and bullshit. Ex favourites Noi and Nit have been away long time. Might ring Noi to see how she is doing and when she might return.
I don't say this bar has the best looking girls, but it does have a lot of good realiable girls that do not dissappoint, and I prefer to see them naked. I also finfd this the best place to select a double team.
The two names I was supposed to reveal for Paul I think, was Bo and Dtom, both older and very experienced girls, lacking tits but curvy and great lesbian performers and a great double team. I think Bo is away for a few days just now. Bo works well with nearly anybody. She is really into sexy girls and Dtom claims to be the most skilled clit licker in the place. Double team blow jobs are really great. I like some much older girls too. Dtom looks young, slim and has a very tight pussy, but is probably over 30. She worked Sheba for a while before but SW before that.
Some time ago the two groups were the naked group and the not so naked group. Now they are all required to be totally naked apart from stockings, this is improvement. There are an excessive number of very young girls now. This caters to the Japanese who are fantasizing that they take the girl's virginity and make her scream as they ram her tiny pussy. Possibly the two groups may now be split by age group. There are two sisters there. One is "Not" who I like and has a kid but is just barely legal age. I dare not contemplate her younger but slightly bigger sister even though has a great body.
I won't name the excessively cute girl at SW now, as she is far too busy already. I had to BF her in a hurry to be sure she would not get stolen away. They say sometimes she has up to 4 customers coming for her at the same time, and then she has a stress to decide who has to be dissappointed, or maybe its just whoever BFs first, wins. I have her number so can ring her to line her up so to speak, to avoid missing out. She doesn't like to do doubles but is so cute, it doesn't matter.
Some girls drink a lot of Tequillas (as this is a designated lady drink - I think its special sweetened tequila), but possibly whiskey isn't (I'm not sure) , so few girls are into whiskey, I think. A cola is a "lady drink". Sometimes a Side Line girl may not care about drink commision as has no quota to meet (no salary too) and then will drink anything she pleases. Some girls do not like to drink alcohol at all, most days. Others are drunk every day. So I think its better to ask the girl what she wants to drink but not let her have too much alcohol.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1421151]LOL. It closes at 1 AM
BTW, a lot of times as I leave Thermae, I see a gal standing outside who looks like she's 60, is she a working girl?[/QUOTE]I have seen one answering that description, she is a female pimp, who approaches foreigners departing empty handed.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1421150]The world is also not same as before."Once upon a time", expats were the travellers, were those who saw new countries, sort of front line combats, flying to SEA was regarded as being an explorer.
There was no internet spreading news, informing and suggesting.
Today hundred times more people travels around the world. Emirates alone brings in 5 planes a day into BKK and one or two are A380 machines, plus a few european airlines, plus Qatar, plus Ethihad, Turkish, not to mention the increasing traffic from SEA and OZ / USA. Emirates has a daily flight to Phuket.
All these visitors are not the "expat" type, of course. They are tourists, visiting the country and a percentage is still the "monger-tourist", but it is a mass of them now (as much as the recession reduced a bit the numebrs)
It goes without saying it is more of an industry (everything now) , so there is a sort of industrial approach.[/QUOTE]Yep, sad really. Glad I made it here and got to see the end of "pre-industrial" P4P in Thailand. Still love BKK though. So much else besides the P4P, and hey the oilies are still fun for a romp.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1421150]The world is also not same as before."Once upon a time", expats were the travellers, were those who saw new countries, sort of front line combats, flying to SEA was regarded as being an explorer. There was no internet spreading news, informing and suggesting.
Today hundred times more people travels around the world. Emirates alone brings in 5 planes a day into BKK and one or two are A380 machines, plus a few european airlines, plus Qatar, plus Ethihad, Turkish, not to mention the increasing traffic from SEA and OZ / USA. Emirates has a daily flight to Phuket.
All these visitors are not the "expat" type, of course. They are tourists, visiting the country and a percentage is still the "monger-tourist", but it is a mass of them now (as much as the recession reduced a bit the numebrs)
It goes without saying it is more of an industry (everything now) , so there is a sort of industrial approach.[/QUOTE]I remember, just a few short years ago, when there was no internet or even cell phones. I would go to places like Cahuita, Cartegena, Medellin, Cali, Trujillo and Santa Cruz and discover things for myself. I never knew what I was going to find. Sometimes the place was a bust and I would move on quickly and other times the payoff was immense and I would settle in for a while. Working girls were unspoiled back then and free or very inexpensive. There was a thrill and excitement to travel back in the day. Travel was synonymous with exploration and it was much more adventurous pre-internet than it is today. Distant places felt exotic and they were. I think we have lost something. Bangkok in the late 60's and early 70's must have been a really special place. My first visit to BKK was in '89. I also traveled to Phuket then. I had a great time, but I knew I had missed the golden age.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1421282]I think we have lost something. Bangkok in the late 60's and early 70's must have been a really special place. My first visit to BKK was in '89. I also traveled to Phuket then. I had a great time, but I knew I had missed the golden age.[/QUOTE]Interesting views. I for one am glad I was not a part of the 60s or 70s (or even 80s). I like the world the way it is now and as I have enough cash to burn, prices are not a worry. I love having the world at my fingertips. And I am sore folks in the 60s were just happy with a lousy cock-lick. Was the world as raunchy and open as it is today? Don't think so.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1421282]I remember, just a few short years ago, when there was no internet or even cell phones. I would go to places like Cahuita, Cartegena, Medellin, Cali, Trujillo and Santa Cruz and discover things for myself. I never knew what I was going to find. Sometimes the place was a bust and I would move on quickly and other times the payoff was immense and I would settle in for a while. Working girls were unspoiled back then and free or very inexpensive. There was a thrill and excitement to travel back in the day. Travel was synonymous with exploration and it was much more adventurous pre-internet than it is today. Distant places felt exotic and they were. I think we have lost something. Bangkok in the late 60's and early 70's must have been a really special place. My first visit to BKK was in '89. I also traveled to Phuket then. I had a great time, but I knew I had missed the golden age.[/QUOTE]Agreed. The world is far more generic now. And with that, far less exciting. Places with an edge are fun. Cambodia in the late 90s right after the coup was quite fun as well.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1421295]Interesting views. I for one am glad I was not a part of the 60s or 70s (or even 80s). I like the world the way it is now and as I have enough cash to burn, prices are not a worry. I love having the world at my fingertips. And I am sore folks in the 60s were just happy with a lousy cock-lick. Was the world as raunchy and open as it is today? Don't think so.[/QUOTE]Girls were plenty sexed up back in the day and I think more involved in the fantasy of having a white boyfriend. I can't speak of Thailand personally since I was not there, but the South American working girls I knew in the 70's gave it up to me for free back then and they loved to be fucked. I still remember my first SA girl; Mercedes, a beautiful black girl I hung out with in Cartagena for two weeks. The sex was amazing. She taught me how to perform doggy among other things. Now, I am no longer a young man and cannot service a woman like Mercedes 5x in a night like in the old days, but I am better in bed than I ever was and I enjoy female companionship now more than ever too. I have mellowed some. So don't get me wrong. I like it today too. I am not complaining really. I have worked hard over the years and have achieved the financial wherewithal to get what I want when I want it. Nothing can stop me from having a good time and good times can definitely be had in Thailand even today.
In fact, I will probably move to Thailand after certain family obligations allow me to do so. I can't think of a place I would rather be. Still I do have a certain nostalgia for the way things used to be pre internet and pre communication revolution. Aside from hairy pussy, I think we have lost something. Travelling was more adventurous albeit less comfortable than it is now. But you are right. We have gained something too. I remember the first time I came upon the ISG forum. I couldn't believe all the information readily available on my computer screen. What a time saver and a convenience. I am thinking of Mick's soapy parlor review. It would have taken me months to gather all that collective experience the old way. But look out, on top of loss of adventure and over-development of natural areas of beauty like Thai island beaches; we have airport screenings and security delays, swine flu, girls with smartphones on Facebook just to mention a few problems that have cropped up. Modern travel is great, but it comes with a cost.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1421150]It goes without saying it is more of an industry (everything now) , so there is a sort of industrial approach.[/QUOTE]Well said. I think that's what I've noticed the most in the past few years. The "tourist" class showing up en masse looking for short-time (they're on a tight schedule) , the general increase in tourists of all sorts, and the decline in the number of working girls have conspired to make the whole experience very "industrial."
I stopped going to go-gos a couple of years ago. But reading the forums I'm so surprised that many have just turned into fuck factories. 30 minute (or less) short times. Girls competing on how quickly they can make the round trip. Rush, rush, rush. It seems the whole spirit of sanuk is gone.
I'm not going to sit here and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and moan about the loss of "the good old days." Things change and it is what it is. There have been tons of improvements in BKK over the years too. As Dickens said,"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times."
There is still much old-school sanuk to be had in Thailand. I just don't think too much of it is to be found in the P4P scene these days.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1421295]Interesting views. I for one am glad I was not a part of the 60s or 70s (or even 80s). I like the world the way it is now and as I have enough cash to burn, prices are not a worry. I love having the world at my fingertips. And I am sore folks in the 60s were just happy with a lousy cock-lick. Was the world as raunchy and open as it is today? Don't think so.[/QUOTE]The world was certainly far less sofisticated. Taking bar girls Long Time was probably the norm. My first trip to Thailand mid 80s, I was with a Farang wife. What a bummer! Actually I still had a good time. Snuck off to a Soapy twice, first time found one accidentally I think. The soapy girls had very little English if any and I had no Thai. Not being able to communicate was sort of frustrating. Early nineties, a buddy who had experienced the 80s and maybe even the 70s showed me the local play up zones, but not really including any Oilies. He preferred the old times as could speak Thai and liked getting to fuck a girl for just $10 or less. In the early nineties still most Soapy girls had little English and I was learning Thai in a big hurry. I liked the Thermae Soapy MP and also the Thermae Coffee Shop after hours. I liked being to take a girl away for several days at a time, and did not get bored by them so easily. I think only Pat Pong upstairs had full nudity in bars in the early 90s, and of course had to beware of rip-off bars even back then.
In the modern day the internet has helped make me aware of a big range of places.
Not correct, that guys were happy with just a cock lick in the old days. For the most part full sex readily available and largely bareback (pre AIDs being a known thing) , however when I had a wife I was not risking bareback. There were some places where could do anything except FS such as Chawala. Some guys enjoyed the challenge of seeing how much they could accomplish while girl still had her pants on. However was possible to meet these girls after work for Full Service.
In the early nineties it was very true that you had to pay a girl to leave, and even then she might be reluctant to go. Sometimes they had never had it so good, and just did not want to leave at all. You had to work hard to not accidentally end up with a girlfriend every day.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1421343]The world was certainly far less sofisticated. Taking bar girls Long Time was probably the norm.[/QUOTE]I am visiting Thailand twice a year and every time is more than a trip there, coming and going. Doing this since 4-5 years. It took me quite a while, as my initiation to Thailand was in Samui where things are far more relaxed and laid back (1000b for a LT and BF for 300, talking about a normal bar lady) , to understand that the bar fine did not mean the girl was not gone from the bar for the night, regardless if she was going to stay with you ST or LT. Samui has always been LT for me, ie till the morning or for a couple of days. It has been in BKK the concept of multiple BF (for the gilr) and therefore multiple ST came to my knowledge. I thought, worst case scenario, thne girl would have gone FL after the ST, freed from the bar.
It is always a learning curve, thanks also to ISG, where you get a lot of inside information.
[QUOTE=Old South; 1421030]What happens to the famous Thermae? I went there Fri night around 3am and the door was locked.
OS[/QUOTE]How long since you visited BKK. Bars close by 1-2 am.
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[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1421100]Meet very hot 22 Y.O. strong 9. Sensing little to no initial interest, tried a wild move and told her I had a girlfriend which seemed to excite her and asking me questions. Then we drank our ass off all night & danced at a couple spots. 800 damage to me and she also picked up a few rounds. Taxi driver taking forever to take us home. Thinking he is going to cost me a fuck be / see we are both zombies. Negative. Get it in along with BJ and cum on her in the room. We pass out and walk her out. I love when they fall asleep with my cum on them. So naughty. More nights like this. Think I know how to pull 9's and 10's here now. Fuck yeah.[/QUOTE]Morning 2 with my new 22 year old hottie. Fuck. Spent 2000 on drinks last night. This girl can drink her ass off.
Her "I love you" taking it is worth a couple of baht but cheap bottle of Absolut next time.
Passed out next to me with my cum stuck to her. I'm half dead but never felt more alive. Her phone is blowing up 4am. 6am. Over 50 calls. Taken back. Has this kid really been her booty call? 2 calls, let alone 50, is a bad look where I come from. To make matters worse, see his face on her phone. Looks like I should be his babysitter and I look 25. Oh well, may the best man win. Not going to buy her although I could. Let her sleep a few hours and run some errands. No missing items. Good girl.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1421432]I tried to paint a bit of an extreme picture to show the sarcasm in my post, but obviously, for certain people, I failed.[/QUOTE]Maybe not extreme enough. Clearly you or I want more than a lick, but some guys like to go to rub 'n tug joints. I can't figure that really. Its not for me. I can tug my own (when not in Thailand). Sarcasm can be confusing unless made very blatently obvious.
Today was sent to heaven (I hope heaven is like this - LOL) by double trouble from Suzie Wong. Bo and Not. Bo has 5 years experience at SW on and off, almost no tits, but very nice arse with good waist to thigh ratio. Likes doing Lesbian stuff. Her BBBJ is also exquisitely good for those who like slow, soft, deep and slurpy. Not has a similar figure (also small tits), nice face, good smile, and very passionate, the tighter of the two (needed a little stretching out). The two worked well together, both having Lesbian show experience. We got a few styles of daisy chains going. 2 hours of tremendous fun (ST). Full on pussy groping allowed too. I did not ask for anal (Not is quite tight already). I think I should take the two of them away for a few days some time just to see if I could get bored fucking them a lot.
Not's real sister works there too. When look at the two you can easily tell they are sisters. Don't know if the sister double is available. Sister (younger and no baby) has such high firm tits that they look slightly fake but I have been assured they are real.
The excessively cute and pretty Noo Dee was working to day and even saw her dancing. This is rare as she is very heavily booked. Guys like her so much, that they don't even care if her skills on the bed are a bit passive.
Meanwhile for silicone fans, Anne has a very impressive pair of double Ds that actually look like a good quality job (75K Baht) which has made bookings increase dramatically, it seems. Each to their own. They even have young fatties for those who like that.
Many bars seem to have very pretty bait girls out the front, but less pretty inside. Not true of all. Cocktail Club has the ugly mamasan out the front. Five Star has lady boys out the front.
One guy took a LB from Cockatoo to the same ST Hotel that I used. One never knows if the customer knows too. He/she had a high voice. The ST Hotel is called Asoke Place I think and is just round the corner in Soi Asoke (Soi 21). Its cheaper than Penny Black in Soi Cowboy. I paid 450 Baht for two girls. Its only 350 Baht for 1 girl. The customer with lady boy had zero girls. I wonder if that should cost even less?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1421064]Does any of this look familiar, that is the following video of Geyland SWs in 2008?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWWlXHGkcok[/url]
IMO the looks of those SWs are quite comparable to what I saw working the streets in the NEP area of BKK earlier this year & since 2007.
I doubt much of anything has changed in BKK in the last couple months.[/QUOTE]Hard to edit out the LBs on the Geyland video to really tell. I see someone did this one recently at Nana [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M46-vvt7SU[/url]
Hi guys,
Can recommend me any hotel to stay at BKK. Near to the farm or night life area. First time going to BKK. 1 of my friend recommend me to stay at Citin hotel, any feedback or opinion on this hotel. My gay friend say that this is near to nite life area lo. Beside that, can I know the price for booking per night over there? Kindly advise. Thank you.
[QUOTE=King2075; 1421861]Hi guys,
Can recommend me any hotel to stay at BKK. Beside that, can I know the price for booking per night over there? Kindly advise. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Try reading the Bangkok Hotels thread for a start. Internet search for prices on booking. Com, Agoda, or Wotif.
Settled into the Sofitel after some long flights. Sofitel is great in that it is literally 5 mins walk one way to Nana / Eden / Dr BJs area and 5 mins walk the other way to Cowboy.
So how does a 71 year old cope with BKK?
12 May. Despite lack of sleep (I never can on flights) I went for a walkabout on Sukhumvit this afternoon. In the first instance that was to get a local SIM to make it easier to be contacted by folk from home or locally. And of course to be able to phone for an in-call when the opportunity (and stamina) allow. Easy to buy a SIM from 7-11 corner shop type place and with a few nice smiles the lady in the shop did all the card registration for me. That is likely essential unless you can understand Thai language script. Anyway, it works. 99 Bhat for the card and I added some more for calls.
Then on the walkabout I located Nana station and surrounding places like Annie's, Dr BJ's, Eden Club easy enough. Walking the other way Soi Cowboy etc. All just 5 mins walk away. I "just happened" to drop into Eden Club around 3pm. One or two other customers there. One arriving like me and another just leaving. Had a beer, selected from the left and let her select a friend. Had a drink together then up in the lift for a mutual wash & brush up then the usual no holes barred sort of Eden session. Not that I have experienced it before, but I have read the forum.
Now, I have of course forgotten the girls names. Events following the initial introduction tend to push such things out of your head. One was fair-ish hair and slightly plump but also tall so she carried that well. I would have said a 36C and a size 10-12. Her selected pal was more slightly built say 34A and size 8-10. Very limited English but chatty with the bit they knew and with bright and 'professional' attitude. Neither of them were more than average lookers BUT definitely I would not complain. I did a good tongue job on the smaller girl and she did cum. You can can tell from the taste change as well as the muscle clinch. Not so the larger one but she did take it up the rear ever so nicely.
Indeed, a lot is said about the rough look of the Eden girls. Well, I have yet to see what there is around Cowboy tonight but I would say all but maybe a couple of the line up at Eden mid afternoon were as good as I would expect to find in any massage place in UK. And a damned site better than many. Maybe I'm not fussy (when you are over 70 like me your standards may change) or maybe I have not yet seen what else can be on offer from the bars. But I was happy with the girls this afternoon. The night is yet young and I'm off to see what Cowboy can offer.
Having shagged myself out at Eden I simply HAD to go to Cowboy this evening anyway. Had a general wander. Dollhouse to start. Some nice girls in their at around 8pm. All fully nude. Moved on to The Longgun because everyone says you should. Naked again but nothing outstanding apart from one who had the most wonderful gash compared to your average. A real slit. However, went on to Suzi Wong. All naked again and one with nice boobs and nice dance action gave me a real longing (No 40). Bar fined her and took her back to the hotel (2000BHT agreed). Not the most amazing performance unfortunately. Maybe because I am shagged out and she wanted to see lots of cum. Which was never going to happen at my age. Anyway, that is where we are now. It is 20 past 10. And just for the eye candy I think I will go back down to Cowboy. There is no way I can even think of attempting another today. Hasta manana.
Gali
More on 12th but with carry over to early 13th.
How wrong can you be with good intentions?
After the earlier session with No40 I decided I just had to go back to Cowboy to sample the atmosphere. So, shower and freshen and off I went. By now it was 11pm and I have not slept for 2 days other than the odd doze.
Did a quick look-see in several places but most of the girls seemed to be at least part dressed. Exception was Dollhouse so went in and had a beer. Moved back to Suzi Wongs around 12. 15 when the lesbian show was just starting. Interesting. A young spinner (bee) came and sat next to me so we had drinks and. A bit of groping. She slid my fly down and groped a lot inside. Bugger me. I SAID I was not going to try again today but this was getting interesting. The mamasan / waitresses became intrigued and joined in the gropes and did some visual inspecting while Bee went back on stage for another dance session! I'm not small. Meanwhile I gave in and bar fined Bee for LT when she returned.
We walked back to the Sofitel, stopping on the way for a plate of fried pork, vegetables and noodles from a street vendor. Good it was too. 70Bht. Bee is good, but very tight. LOTS of foreplay eased things up. Despite lots of tongue she never came. Unusual that because usually I can bring one on. My guess is she was tired after a long day. So, snuggled down and we went off to sleep. Nice it is to have a young thing (she is 25) to be there beside you.
We woke at 8. 30, me with a good boner that was put to good use. Bee did not want to take the Bht I offered "just taxi" were her words. No way. While other guys may have said 'great, a freebee! ' I insisted because she was such a nice person and she made an old guy happy.
Here endeth my first day in BKK. 2-up at Eden, an ST and a LT from Suzi's. Not bad for 71 years. AND as I type I have another boner because there is a very nice young lady cleaning my room / changing the bedding. However, the thoughts of making an offer have been severely repressed! There are more hours in this day.
I have noted the post below from Syzygies. Who was obviously also in Suzi's at the lesbian show time last night (around midnight?). Maybe we need to meet for a drink?
Gali
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1421901]I have noted the post below from Syzygies. Who was obviously also in Suzi's at the lesbian show time last night (around midnight?). Maybe we need to meet for a drink?
Gali[/QUOTE]Not quite. There is more than one Lesbian show if there are enough customers. I caught the earlier Lesbian show at about 10:30PM. I would have left earlier, but stayed just a little more to allow Bo to do the Les show as she is really into it and she had the excitement of not yet knowing which other girls she was about to sample. Of course not all girls are really into it and some are just going through the motions. By the time you were watching the show there, I was well into my own private session and show with Bo and Not.
You could well catch me there another night. Look for a middle aged Farang (not white hair yet) with multiple girls and whose eyes look like a Panda bear (black rings).
A while ago someone posted a message about Terminal 21 and how during lunchtime their 5th floor Food Court is full of delectable youngThai ladies. I think it was in respect of finding good places to pick-up non-pro girls.
As I was in the neighbourhood today I had to get a look, just out of scientific curiosity, of course. I have no interest in non-pros and my Thai GF would never forgive me.
Anyhow, I can confirm that around noon the place was swarming with young Thai women in their high school uniforms, shop-keeper uniforms (Thai love uniforms, don't they?) and all other kind of sexy dress. The place was so crowded I had to walk around with my plate of food for 10 minutes before finding a free spot.
So the quantity is there indeed, but is it a good spot to pick up someone? I really doubt it. Most tables were fully occupied, so no place to even try to "break in". I did spot a few tables with a single woman sitting by herself, so if you are not a shy person, you could try your luck. Most of them seemed more interested in their smartphones than in a lone farang looking for place to sit, though.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1422000]A while ago someone posted a message about Terminal 21 and how during lunchtime their 5th floor Food Court is full of delectable youngThai ladies. I think it was in respect of finding good places to pick-up non-pro girls.
As I was in the neighbourhood today I had to get a look, just out of scientific curiosity, of course. I have no interest in non-pros and my Thai GF would never forgive me.
Anyhow, I can confirm that around noon the place was swarming with young Thai women in their high school uniforms, shop-keeper uniforms (Thai love uniforms, don't they?) and all other kind of sexy dress. The place was so crowded I had to walk around with my plate of food for 10 minutes before finding a free spot.
So the quantity is there indeed, but is it a good spot to pick up someone? I really doubt it. Most tables were fully occupied, so no place to even try to "break in". I did spot a few tables with a single woman sitting by herself, so if you are not a shy person, you could try your luck. Most of them seemed more interested in their smartphones than in a lone farang looking for place to sit, though.[/QUOTE]Bangkok has over 50 great malls stacked with hotties, great international food and interesting Asian fashion.
I've been to many. Some I've been the only farang.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shopping_malls_in_Bangkok[/url]
Big reason why I live here but still get tired of city life. Never ending playground. You can do something new every day of the year.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1421901]Here endeth my first day in BKK. 2-up at Eden, an ST and a LT from Suzi's. Not bad for 71 years. AND as I type I have another boner because there is a very nice young lady cleaning my room / changing the bedding. However, the thoughts of making an offer have been severely repressed! There are more hours in this day.
Gali[/QUOTE]I really enjoy reading your reports! Hope I will be fit like you when I get 71 (13 years to go)
I will definitly have Suzie Wong's on my todo-list for the coming weekend or maybe next week. My todo-list is getting long.
Keep up the good work!
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1421895]All naked again and one with nice boobs and nice dance action gave me a real longing (No 40). Bar fined her and took her back to the hotel (2000BHT agreed). Not the most amazing performance unfortunately. Maybe because I am shagged out and she wanted to see lots of cum. Which was never going to happen at my age. Anyway, that is where we are now. It is 20 past 10. And just for the eye candy I think I will go back down to Cowboy. There is no way I can even think of attempting another today. Hasta manana.
Gali[/QUOTE]Were her tits real? Any name? I am not good with numbers. My buddy took a girl with big fakes a while back who was not good.
I normally take the ones with little tits if any and get some amazing performances, and maybe only 1 in 8 girls I ever tried was not good. I am ashamed to even mention the bad one as she sort of got selected by someone else for a group session (fortunately there were 2 other girls to enjoy at the same occasion).
Recommended girls: Bo, Dtom, Not, Naam, Yao, Maa (a bit slutty. Wild) , Anne okay (fake double Ds) , Dteuan okay (big real ones) , Noo Dee very cute and very good body (good if you don't mind rather sweet passive girls) , Lai looks very nice and popular (too much acting for my taste). Noi (Dting-Dtong) may be returning soon (talkative, very sexy and a super ass. And a favourite). There are so many really good girls and every girl girl I recommend must a have reasonably good face and good ass (big tits not a priority for me). Its great for me to know all these girls, as they don't always show, but there is likely to be one or two that I know.
By the way, 'Dt' is attempt to make a Thai sound that is like half way between D and a T, also known as "unaspirated T" (like the T in "shuttle-cock" not like the T in "trick").
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1421397]How long since you visited BKK. Bars close by 1-2 am.[/QUOTE]Try queens park plaza, a few bars open until the last guy leaves. Some girls still around
[quote=nevergetsold; 1421860]i bet 1 in 500 girls would report it here but is it really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] if they don't tell anyone.
hey, some girls like it. fuck pregnancy, it's tough being a guy.[/quote]thai culture is a bit sick. date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is common and punishment for guy, and for girl who was raped, is marriage when they are not suited, particularly if she got pregnant. girls don't usually try for the morning after pill and abortion is generally not accepted.
ask some bargirls, how many have been a raped, perhaps before they were a bargirl (to be fair)? a pretty large percentage i think.
A quickie update because I am knackered and have to WORK tomorrow, so if there are any grammar or spelling mistakes I am sure you will cope.
Went to Annies today. First time to a Thai massage in Thailand (the variants in some Thai parlours at home do not compare. Had preselected # 32 (Oh) from a good report given by a previous poster. Brilliant. Than you for the recommendation Sir. Two hours of wet play, mutual exploration and tongue play with a good sex session. Even I could cum. You will appreciate that at my age and with an enlarged prostate the stories on this board about 'cumming on the girl' leave me with envy. Add to that the exploits of the last day or so and frankly it is amazing I can even stand. However, today the session with Oh did the job for me.
Having that success behind me I said to myself. "have a night off". Fair game because work colleagues were taking me out. IT HAPPENED that on the way back we passed the end of Cowboy. Despite there being a female work colleague present we headed down. I THINK their intention was "just to walk through" but at Suzi's I said ' I'm just nipping in here to see a friend'. My colleagues followed. Methinks they were a little amazed at the familiarity with which I greeted a couple of the waitress ladies. And especially my LT friend from the previous day. I work hard I play hard. As we entered (guess 10. 30 or so, I did not have a watch on tonight) the soapy lesbian show was in full swing. My colleagues settled and watched. And continued to watch things until after midnight. I had Bee on my lap and lots of gropes. She wanted to go back to the hotel but. Will power, will power. I said no because I need to be up at 6 for work. I think she was genuinely disappointed. I slipped her some Bhat as compensation and have promised we will have a LT once the job has settled down.
So, work for 6am and it is already 12. 40!
Gali
I have just finished my 4th trip to Bangkok in the last 2 years.
Here is my daily schedule advice for a novice monger.
1-Find a nice hotel withth good view and pool in accordance with your budget;
My favorites are around USD 100 : The Continent, Coloumn Bangkok, Tenface, Lebua, Shereton Orchid.
2-Fill the fridge with your and girls favorite drinks and food.
Cinzano or Martini sparkling wine which are around USD 15.
3-Around 1 oclock wake up have a light breakfast.
4-Around 2 oclock call one or two of your favorite girl from Cherry massage or Tulip for a FS oil massage;
My favorites are Gop from Tulip, Apple, Ploy, Vodka from Cherry massage Costs 2500 baht-USD 85 plus tip.
5-Around 4 oclock go to gym and pool for 1 hour;
My favorites are : Coloumn Bangkok and The Continent with excellent views.
6-Around 6 oclock go to a nice bar to see some FL s and play pool.
My favorite is Hillary 4
7-Around 8 oclock have a good dinner.
My favorite is Isao and Roast Coffee Costs around USD 35.
8- Around 9:30 go to a roof bar for happy hour and possible sisha.
My favorites are Long Table and The continent for sisha.
9-Around 11 oclock go to your favorite gogo and be very picky, offer the girl a lady drink.
My favorites are Tilac, Shark and Baccara in Soi Cowboy.
10-Around 12:30 go to your favorite club at RCA.
11-Around 2 oclock go to your favorite disco for FL.
My favorite is Insomnia.
Till now you should have select your ST lady but be very picy and not drunk
You can be very pick because there are many many available girls in those places.
Then enjoy your late night with your carefully selected girls.
LOS is amazing just no rush and enjoy.
Rgrds.
Then enjoy yo
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1422011]Bangkok has over 50 great malls stacked with hotties, great international food and interesting Asian fashion.
I've been to many. Some I've been the only farang.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shopping_malls_in_Bangkok[/url]
Big reason why I live here but still get tired of city life. Never ending playground. You can do something new every day of the year.[/QUOTE]NeverGetOld,
I never have any luck picking up WG in mall at Bangkok or Pattaya, yes there are many hottie at the mall I only have a few smile and eye contact from average girl Thailand is not as easy as in The Phillippines or Indoensia I have many easy freelance pick up there even at the High end mall.
Fast Eddie 48
BJ Bar : Star of Light, Patpong II.
Price : B700 for BBBJ CIM.
Visited this location in recent weeks as my first BJ Bar, and enjoyed every second of the seedy experience on two visits on different days. What a 'hotspot'. Many thanks for reports here with their descriptions that lured me to that notorious den, a national treasure that the tourism authority of Thailand is unlikely to promote any time soon. During my first visit at evening time, located the place eventually after a few passes and to my initial horror on opening the door, the Bar was busy with other customers. Visiting a BJ Bar, and jumping in at the deep end with this one in particular, was a bit of a personal challenge, and my aim was also to arrive fully sober rather than cheat by being out of it on arrival. Now there was turning back. Commited. Shy, but also determined to experience this.
Glancing sheepishly sideways upon entering, it was a gang of Japanese occupying the Bar seats but seemingly just drinking, and what appeared to be (dim lighting) another falang on one of the sofas with a provider, but in post BJ wind down perhaps.
Cutting the story short, got serviced on one of the sofas facing the bar, unleashing with major satisfaction into the back of her mouth then being teased enough over the next 20 minutes of chatting to make me feel ready to give her another go in a decision to make the best out the visit, her skills adapting to the challenge and bringing me off again which shows just how skilled they are with BJ.
During the second round that same visit, opened my eyes a minute or two after she began and saw another worker standing close by, leaning on the divider between the two sofas in a matter of fact way, watching it all with an interesting combination of a smile on her face and rapt attention. What else could be done except look at her with blissed eyes, a Boyish grin then place my hands on my head and relax into the BJ as if being given a shoe shine?
Enjoyed the full menu of BJ skill that she had to offer from the slow and lingering, to fast, furious, aggressive and utterly seedy. Even more so when she kept working on me and was looking right into my eyes without a flinch while catching rope after rope of load, stored up for days prior to the first experience. Once she'd worked me off, she enquired with surprise if it had been a week since my last cum. Oh how I felt like a naughty cheeky school boy at that moment. Got to love it!
For the second visit (noon time) chose to go with the same service provider as the first time but left it up to her to chose a friend for a Duo BJ, itself a sign of confidence in the BBBJ skill from workers there. Nobody was in the Bar at noon, unlike the first visit during an evening. Quite an experience to have one working the main equipment while the other splayed out their tongue under my balls and got to work while both had their tits out to be played with, switching their roles every so often during it, and what a memorable moment where they both went in for the 'kill' when sensing that the moment of fireworks was fast approaching, to really pump up the intensity and bring me off in one hell of an orgasm that left me seeing stars (the Bar name 'Star of Light' seemed perfect) , it was that intense. Happy times!
Currently in Indonesia, but returning to BKK in coming weeks thist Bar will get more visits from me. For me at least, the kind of orgasm that they could bring me to, was, combined with the psychological reward of CIM, in ways more intense than during FS and well worth B700 (B1400 total for the 2 on that second visit). On a side note, there are one or two there that would be reasonable for FS unless you have high demands, and certainly fine for BBBJ (imo) for those who may have put off visiting.
One of them emerged from that side room next to my sofa on my first visit after she had just finished FS with a Falang (wasn't aware that was going on in the next room at the time while being serviced on the sofa) and another one was seen on the day visit who appeared to be that petite one mentioned here. Didn't get their names, but worth checking out I would say.
My main provider was a tubby and bubbly one with great english. 'Very' friendly and put me at ease right away which was spot on for my first BJ Bar visit where it was an akward feeling walking in. It was her overall friendly attitude that won me over initially, and then her great BBBJ CIM skills that proved her from then on. Big Girls make the effort.
[QUOTE=Western787; 1421739]Hard to edit out the LBs on the Geyland video to really tell. I see someone did this one recently at Nana.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M46-vvt7SU[/url][/QUOTE]I recognized only one lady on the vid, whom I've also taken to my room a few times.
Quite a few I find doable there. Nice clip, thanks.
Went to Nana tonight. Not impressed really. Far more activity / delights in Cowboy in my opinion. Even the shows in Angelwitch seemed a bit tame / stilted. However, sank a few beers & soft drinks at various places then bar fined one from Rainbow 4. #54. Crap performer in the room. Neurotic attitude. I'll stick with Dollhouse, Suzis etc in Cowboy.
Gali
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1422465]Went to Nana tonight. Not impressed really. Far more activity / delights in Cowboy in my opinion. Even the shows in Angelwitch seemed a bit tame / stilted. However, sank a few beers & soft drinks at various places then bar fined one from Rainbow 4. #54. Crap performer in the room. Neurotic attitude. I'll stick with Dollhouse, Suzis etc in Cowboy.
Gali[/QUOTE]I agree completely. Rainbow 4 has some good lookers, but hunting for a great girl is much more difficult and so many of them are in a hurry to try to do a quickie. I have had a good one for whole night but that is probably a low percentage. Suzi girls give me 2 hours ST bliss with no problems, and finding good chemistry seems a lot easier. I have had good luck at Doll's House too in the past.
Even the Cowboy Burger stand is superior to the Nana burger stand despite cooks being from Burma. They have pepper (essential for me to enjoy a burger properly) and other things. I used to be able to say Cowboy had no LBs, but alas that advantage is disappearing.
Had a good ding-dong girl from Baccarat the other night, but I was cheating on selection as already knew her since a long time ago. In fact was so long, perhaps 3 years, she could not remember me, I think (maybe I look different with 14 Kg. Less) , but its just an easy wink and nod (during her naked show) , to make the girl certain that you want her. Name was "Or" (or Awe) , and recently has moved to upstairs plus does special shows. Nice natural curves.
I always remember the fun girls. My big problem is forgetting the bad ones sometimes completely, to the extent that I could easily choose the same bad one again, a long time later, if I'm not careful. I can only remember 3 girls from Baccarat, which means I could have done others but if so, they were forgettable. Sometimes I have had to check my old ISG reports to find out what girls I did previously, or at least get a hint about the names. It would be a good idea to keepa spreadsheet of every girl ever done with details, so as to avoid repeating mistakes. It also could help explain some names and phones numbers in my monger phone, where I cannot think who it might be.
Generally bargirls can forget their old customers quicker than we forget them. Just too many customers for them.
Came in from Pattaya this after noon. Bus was 135 baht and a two hour ride. Settle into my room. Then ventured out. Met a 30 year old that caught my eye. Get back to the room, shoot some photos, clean up, good BBBJ, finish up. 1000 baht and she is down the road. A little later I went for a one hour oil massage. I was spoiled in Pattaya. A one hour oil massage there is 200 baht. And the place was right across the street from my hotel. I know, welcome to BKK. I swallowed the pill and went for it. I need a rub down. Boy was it a big let down. I had to tell her three times to rub harder. She just didn't have it. After, I met up with a couple of buddies at one of the Nana Plaza go-go's. I ordered a tiger for 140 baht. My buddies got red bull and vodka. They both complained there was no vodka in their drinks. We split up and I went looking for another girl. Walked up Sukhumvit and ran into a 28 year old. All smiles, touchy feely, laughing. I asked how much? She said how much you give me? I said 700 baht, in Thai. She said, oh, more. I told her she said. How much you give? I said, ok. 800 baht, in Thai. She smiled and said ok! Yeah, I wasn't expecting that from a free lance girl in BKK. But alright, lets go. Get to the room and pull out the camera and she starts posing for me. We clean up, GREAT BBBJ! The kind that give the girls from BJ alley in Angeles City, Philippines a run for their money. We fool around. Clean up and I went to pay her and I only had 660 baht left. Oops! I didn't get any more out because I am flying home tomorrow. So I offered her a $10 USD and 600 baht. She said how much is this. I told her together it was 880 baht. She smiled, said thank you and was happy as a clam. Nice way to finish off my South East Asia trip. I did notice that the street the Nana Plaza Hotel is on got rid of a lot of the side walk vendors. I also saw a group of city employees taking photos of the side walks where the concrete had lifted up. Looks like BKK is getting a make over. At least in the Nana Plaza Hotel area. Till next time.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1422465]Went to Nana tonight. Not impressed really. Far more activity / delights in Cowboy in my opinion. Even the shows in Angelwitch seemed a bit tame / stilted. However, sank a few beers & soft drinks at various places then bar fined one from Rainbow 4. #54. Crap performer in the room. Neurotic attitude. I'll stick with Dollhouse, Suzis etc in Cowboy.
Gali[/QUOTE]I am curious to see whether your huntings will take you to other spots as bier garden etc. I know. I know. Not young girls there, LOL
Hi,
Thanks for the good info. Going to Bangkok soon. I noticed a 'regular' outcall massage on the Cherry website is listed for 1000 Baht. Does that include a happy ending? Or do they only offer FS outcall massage for the 2500 baht you mention.
Dutch44.
[QUOTE=Lmrzccgs3; 1422123]4-Around 2 oclock call one or two of your favorite girl from Cherry massage or Tulip for a FS oil massage;
My favorites are Gop from Tulip, Apple, Ploy, Vodka from Cherry massage Costs 2500 baht-USD 85 plus tip.
Then enjoy yo[/QUOTE]
I have been travelling almost 3 to 4 time to BKK and usually stay at Majestic Grande as it is closer to NEP and the staff knows me well.
Everytime went to NEP, Raibow 4 is the place that I will not missed. But recently, seeminmg tired to getting there, as the girls are not changing may be a few new but generally old faces, so I think for regular visitors like me will feel the same.
During my recent visit, I bf a girl name pond or pong, looks nice with of coarse fake silicon breast but starfish in bed. Is the quality of BKK sex provider now getting poorer or poorer? I paid them as the normal market price but it seems their standard is not as what I have been getting couple years ago.
Just sharing some thoughts.
Cheers,
MD
[QUOTE=Coconut Cream; 1422220]BJ Bar : Star of Light, Patpong II.
Price : B700 for BBBJ CIM.
Visited this location in recent weeks as my first BJ Bar, and enjoyed every second of the seedy experience on two visits on different days. What a 'hotspot'. Many thanks for reports here with their descriptions that lured me to that notorious den, a national treasure that the tourism authority of Thailand is unlikely to promote any time soon. During my first visit at evening time, located the place eventually after a few passes and to my initial horror on opening the door, the Bar was busy with other customers. Visiting a BJ Bar, and jumping in at the deep end with this one in particular, was a bit of a personal challenge, and my aim was also to arrive fully sober rather than cheat by being out of it on arrival. Now there was turning back. Commited. Shy, but also determined to experience this.
Glancing sheepishly sideways upon entering, it was a gang of Japanese occupying the Bar seats but seemingly just drinking, and what appeared to be (dim lighting) another falang on one of the sofas with a provider, but in post BJ wind down perhaps.
I have made many reports on SOL.[/quote]Glad you enjoyed it. Did you meet Fon? She is the best there by far I think.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1422184]NeverGetOld,
I never have any luck picking up WG in mall at Bangkok or Pattaya, yes there are many hottie at the mall I only have a few smile and eye contact from average girl Thailand is not as easy as in The Phillippines or Indoensia I have many easy freelance pick up there even at the High end mall.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Actually, I never tried to pull there. It does look difficult. There must be some type of stigma going on.
I just bring girls there for daytime dates. Only an hour or 2 of fucking a day is fine with me. Rest of the day I like to explore with a sweet girl by my side.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1422266]I recognized only one lady on the vid, whom I've also taken to my room a few times.
Quite a few I find doable there. Nice clip, thanks.[/QUOTE]Granted I've fucked many better for free but have also paid more for worse.
Some cute girls there for sure. Much better quality then I would've thought and look like the take it dirty type.
Well done guys. You are doing very well for yourselves.
What time would you guess that was?
If I didn't have (free to buy dinner & drinks pussy) lined up until 2015 I'd be there 5 nights a week.
Pass by BKK for work a week ago, tried number 14 for Nuru 2 hours. Bought her a lady drink to make sure she feel great to give me a great service.
The VIP room is very small but warm and comfortable.
The girl is great, she did a very great body slide with her so called Nuru gel, she used a lot pussy massage on my back, feels great and when she turned me over, she finished me off with a BBBJ.
Then over to the bed and she gave me a great oil massage and nearly fell asleep.
We proceed to sex and after a few different positions, I was already tired as I had just flown for the whole day and stuck in Bangkok traffic jam for that day. She finished me off again with a BBBJ. Really great experience. Her GFE is very real although I know it is definitely faking, her moaning was great too though it kind of switched on switched off which is not real, but sounded so genuine.
WIR? If I come back to town I will try other girls at this establishment.
Went to Dream Heaven on Soi 33 a week ago while passing by BKK on business.
Asked for L but she was on leave, sigh. Went for ICE for 90 minute Nuru.
The room was ok, I love the fact that there's a mirror on the side of the bed though the angle is slightly inconvenient to turn my neck to appreciate what's happening.
Started off with a shower and then she proceed to give me soapie massage but her pussy was probably just shaven a few days ago and now there's sharp stubble all over the place. When she slide it onto my exposed dick, it hurts and irritates.
After that we proceed to bed and she pour some gel onto me and slides around. The effort was so so but not too bad. She flipped me over after about 20 minutes and proceed to cap me and ride me, her shape stubble was too prickly. Tried a few positions but in the end due to too many mongering in that last 2 days, I lie on my back and asked her to reverse cowgirl me. Her ass was great to grab and the mirror increase the erotic atmosphere with the dimmed light. I came in that position to her lots of moaning, sounded quite genuine but I suspect those are fake.
Left with a smile on my face.
WIR? If I come by BKK again, I want to try L, that face just begs me to have her.
[QUOTE=Dutch44; 1422563]Hi,
Thanks for the good info. Going to Bangkok soon. I noticed a 'regular' outcall massage on the Cherry website is listed for 1000 Baht. Does that include a happy ending? Or do they only offer FS outcall massage for the 2500 baht you mention.
Dutch44.[/QUOTE]You pay 1000 for the shop and 1500 for the lady for full service with multi pops.
Once I had just 1 hr massage in the shop for 400 baht and tipped the girl 500 baht for HJ.
But for outcall I thing they expect to give full service and paid 1500 baht.
Rgrds
Does any one has experience with a Thai squirting girl? Any place and name to advice me?
As I know the Thai girls, they surely have difficulties to squirt and to accept it. But I'm fun and like very much this pleasure, not just a normal cum or a bit more wet than usual. What I mean is the real explosive squirt and the very specific pleasure face that can not be simulated! Wouaaaa what a reward for a man to see this and to have a real feeling to give something very special to a girl.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1422620]Granted I've fucked many better for free but have also paid more for worse.
Some cute girls there for sure. Much better quality then I would've thought and look like the take it dirty type.
Well done guys. You are doing very well for yourselves.
What time would you guess that was?
If I didn't have (free to buy dinner & drinks pussy) lined up until 2015 I'd be there 5 nights a week.[/QUOTE]I'd guess it was around 11 PM at the beginning. The lineup changes considerably during the course of the video, so I'm wondering if the guy left and came back quite a bit later. Upon another look with a full screen, I recognized a few more ladies I've seen there before.
How much does a "dinner & drinks" go for these days. The NCP ladies generally go for about 30 USD ST, with an STI or two as a possible bonus for the buyer. No need to buy any LD or BF, of course. Perhaps our man can catch one of the infamous LE raids on these girls for his next performance.
[QUOTE=Macho Dik;1422599]I have been travelling almost 3 to 4 time to BKK and usually stay at Majestic Grande as it is closer to NEP and the staff knows me well.MD[/QUOTE]It is indeed a perfect location and Annie's just crossed the road for any urgent need! LOL.
I appointed it as my BKK residence too and the staff is great (reception guys / gilrs not always rememebering even if I was there the week before, but porters and concierge are great folks). So far the breakfast food is not contaminated by the increasing presence of muslims, so no problem in that as long as you are bothered by them (I am not)
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1422743]It is indeed a perfect location and Annie's just crossed the road for any urgent need! LOL.
I appointed it as my BKK residence too and the staff is great (reception guys / gilrs not always rememebering even if I was there the week before, but porters and concierge are great folks). So far the breakfast food is not contaminated by the increasing presence of muslims, so no problem in that as long as you are bothered by them (I am not) [/QUOTE]One criticism of the Majestic Grande for me, is that the front desk is poorly staffed at times. Can be several customers needing attention and only one person busy answering the phone. Not good if you need to check out in a hurry. So its not a criticism of the actual staff but the management failing to staff certain functions adequately. The front desk staff should just let the phone ring if they are busy with customers perhaps, or get a separate switchboard function to handle it. Anyway more desk staff needed!
I think MG was worse than most Hotels in this respect, as it is the only one where I noticed the problem repeatedly.
Also the girl working the bar / cafe area near the front desk was incredibly slow. Sometimes you just want to pay and leave and cannot get attention, or want another coffee.
I got used to "Miss Turbo" service of coffees at Livingstone's Lodge till she unfortunately left to have a baby.
I would still stay at MG but its certainly not perfect.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1422769]One criticism of the Majestic Grande for me, is that the front desk is poorly staffed at times. Can be several customers needing attention and only one person busy answering the phone. Not good if you need to check out in a hurry. So its not a criticism of the actual staff but the management failing to staff certain functions adequately. The front desk staff should just let the phone ring if they are busy with customers perhaps, or get a separate switchboard function to handle it. Anyway more desk staff needed![/QUOTE]I agree, reception needs a bit of staff improvement. As said, I have been there 5 times in 6 weeks and none seemed to remember me and went through the usual paperwork routine and blah blah, that I rate annoying when you just checked out 4 days before. Concierge staff do remember me well, and reception not: how comes? Never rising their eyes from the PC screen? Check out is time consuming as they send someone into the room to check it (minibar? Not only, they found and brought down what I had forgotten in a night table drawer, but not ALL what I had forgotten, nothing precious, anyhow)
I think sometime reception staff are wasting time in running around in circles and not looking above the counter.
Other than that the price is ok, facilities too in general, breakfast is generous, swimming pool a bit too noisy with the constant whirlpool jets in action (don't get a room at pool side below 10th floor as pool is at 7th and you get the noise) so not ideal for just relaxing. I like those jets, but half area would be ok and less noisy.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1422790]I think sometime reception staff are wasting time in running around in circles and not looking above the counter.[/QUOTE]Yeh, I think you nailed it. Need more staff and a bit more efficiency training too. More attention to the customer's needs instead of the inefficient procedures. The front desk works better at many other Hotels.
Still an O.K. Hotel overall with good breakfast. Way better than Citadines 23 in my view. It you are an Annies customer its still ideal, and just put up with the slow front desk.
If you really want to impress the Annies girl, there is the JW Marriot but that is in a completely different price range for the most part. She would rather you spent the extra money on her tip, I'll bet. LOL
There is also Solo small boutique hotel further down the Soi but watch out if your girl is not yet 20 years old. Ha Ha!
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1422735]I'd guess it was around 11 PM at the beginning. The lineup changes considerably during the course of the video, so I'm wondering if the guy left and came back quite a bit later. Upon another look with a full screen, I recognized a few more ladies I've seen there before.
How much does a "dinner & drinks" go for these days. The NCP ladies generally go for about 30 USD ST, with an STI or two as a possible bonus for the buyer. No need to buy any LD or BF, of course. Perhaps our man can catch one of the infamous LE raids on these girls for his next performance.[/QUOTE]$30 and under is my sweet spot. When I see that, I usually get addictive with it. All this $50+ Thai pussy lead me to infusing game.
200-2000 when they hang out with me all day. Varies. I notice Thai chicks mostly eat Thai food which is cheap but get's a little expensive at malls and restaurants. Never finish and I eat the leftovers if it does not taste like cow manure. Sweet tooths can get more expensive, little shit Asian desserts to 100 baht pieces of cake and sorbets. Sodas or fresh fruit juices can add up. I walk around with them and have tried everyone of those disgusting 30 baht street food / snacks. Fish balls and gelatin don't get me excited. Boozers get the most expensive. Transportation costs also add up bouncing from place to place. Day trips and paying for a hotel is not a big deal to me since I would've paid if I stayed by myself anyway but many happy with that. Probably 5 million Thai girls who would fuck me and spend days with me for that 200-2000. Just push their buttons right. Don't get possessive and pathetic with it.
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[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1422925]$30 and under is my sweet spot. When I see that, I usually get addictive with it. All this $50+ Thai pussy lead me to infusing game.
200-2000 when they hang out with me all day. Varies. I notice Thai chicks mostly eat Thai food which is cheap but get's a little expensive at malls and restaurants. Never finish and I eat the leftovers if it does not taste like cow manure. Sweet tooths can get more expensive, little shit Asian desserts to 100 baht pieces of cake and sorbets. Sodas or fresh fruit juices can add up. I walk around with them and have tried everyone of those disgusting 30 baht street food / snacks. Fish balls and gelatin don't get me excited. Boozers get the most expensive. Transportation costs also add up bouncing from place to place. Day trips and paying for a hotel is not a big deal to me since I would've paid if I stayed by myself anyway but many happy with that. Probably 5 million Thai girls who would fuck me and spend days with me for that 200-2000. Just push their buttons right. Don't get possessive and pathetic with it.[/QUOTE]With such an attitude why even bother to come to Thailand. Just stay home and fuck your local pussies and eat your 99cent burgers.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1423235]With such an attitude why even bother to come to Thailand. Just stay home and fuck your local pussies and eat your 99cent burgers.[/QUOTE]Why not? It appears his method is working for him. There is something for everybody. There are some who refuse to pay 2000 / pop then there are others who refuse to pay less than 2000 / pop. Different strokes for different folks. Some like Pepsi and some like Coke.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1423235]With such an attitude why even bother to come to Thailand. Just stay home and fuck your local pussies and eat your 99cent burgers.[/QUOTE]LOL.
A lot of what the OP says has to be taken with a couple handfuls of salt.
Dude visits LOS for the first time a few months back. Loves it so much he moves to LOS permanently a couple months later. But doesn't speak Thai and dislikes the food.
Dude is independently wealthy from an online game, or some such. Yet pisses and moans about the cost of $3 desserts and goes so far as to eat his date's leftovers to save money. WTF?
Dude has more free pussy available than he can count (through 2015 by his estimate). Brags about freebies, then in the same breath complains about the cost of a $50 hooker. When the price hits 1500 baht it's time to break out "game?" LOL.
Am I the only one who sees a major disconnect? I suspect there is a lot less here than meets the eye. The posts are entertaining, but I really don't think they carry much weight.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1423331]LOL.
A lot of what the OP says has to be taken with a couple handfuls of salt.
Dude visits LOS for the first time a few months back. Loves it so much he moves to LOS permanently a couple months later. But doesn't speak Thai and dislikes the food.
Dude is independently wealthy from an online game, or some such. Yet pisses and moans about the cost of $3 desserts and goes so far as to eat his date's leftovers to save money. WTF?
Dude has more free pussy available than he can count (through 2015 by his estimate). Brags about freebies, then in the same breath complains about the cost of a $50 hooker. When the price hits 1500 baht it's time to break out "game?" LOL.
Am I the only one who sees a major disconnect? I suspect there is a lot less here than meets the eye. The posts are entertaining, but I really don't think they carry much weight.[/QUOTE]Yeh, NeverGetsOld, proves that bullshit never gets old. It could be the onset of dementia, which does grow as one gets old. Hey, NeverGetsOld, there are a significant number of us ISG members who know fact from fiction. Try some other forum, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1422609]Glad you enjoyed it. Did you meet Fon? She is the best there by far I think.[/QUOTE]Doesn't ring a bell Luvpuss, no. But as they say in that movie 'Troy,. "I'll remember the name".
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again thank you guys for all the info. you know who you are.
i went to three bj bars in bkk.
soi 8 [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. got a very good service from mew. cute girl. everyone else was not up to par. nice tits and very thorough. the set up is upstairs and they have curtains to hide the deed. dark room upstairs but not bad, ac very good. you can hear the other monger getting services next to me which was an experience. his girls was moaning and slurping and sure he was in heaven. mine began and i blocked my neighbor out and enjoyed her warm mouth. took it deep and was very good. began to play with her breasts. after 10 minutes i stood up and had her sit so i can fuck her mouth standing while drinking my beer. after a few minutes of that i asked for boom boom. no dice. she was on the rag. fuck! i continued to face fuck her and grab her tits until i cim. maybe 25 minutes of bbbj all together. stayed there for a little bit longer she was so gentle with it after i came seemed to just wanted to me fall asleep with me in her mouth. very nice. she spit my babies in a towel, cleaned me off and i gave her 200 baht. damage was 920 for bbbj and beer. would i repeat.yes.
soi 7/1 dr bj. had e. (takes it deep) very cute, tall, busty has fake glasses and thick dsls. however the set up is not as nice. i didn't like the dentist chair & cock washing unit they have. she was good, slurping, wet deep bj. she didn't let me play with her tits though. she said she was sensitive sine she was on her period. wtf! they are all me menstruating at the same time. the walls are white but look dirty from scuff marks. on the second floor they have a mattress, blankets so i guess the girls nap there while waiting. it does have a bar but don't they all? i really wanted e for a nuru since her tits looked amazing but since she was on the rag only bbbj was offered. another thing was when i about to cum she only took the first second, then quickly moved away and said i don't allow cim very dangerous. another wtf! i paid my 1000 bhat no tip for her. would i repeat- no.
don't crucify me good dr. jmho.
went to sol. patpong solon area. after walking around finally found it but saw the quality of girls not up to standards so i passed. i wanted to save my manjuice for my thai hottie anyway later that day so i decided not to partake.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp; 1423572]Again thank you guys for all the info. You know who you are.
Soi 7/1 dr BJ. Had E. (takes it deep) very cute, tall, busty has fake glasses and thick DSLs. She didn't let me play with her tits though. She said she was sensitive sicne she was on her period. I really wanted E for a Nuru since her tits looked amazing but since she was on the rag only BBBJ was offered.[/QUOTE]I mentioned often in here that E's tits are not the best man made ones in BKK, this is the reason why she does not let them out. And play with them.
I feel sorry for her, but she is attracting customers for that feature (big tits) but then. They are not in the program.
Plastic surgeon to be blamed.
[quote=nclpimp;1423572]soi 7/1 dr bj. had e. (takes it deep) very cute, tall, busty has fake glasses and thick dsls. however the set up is not as nice. i didn't like the dentist chair & cock washing unit they have. she was good, slurping, wet deep bj. she didn't let me play with her tits though. she said she was sensitive sine she was on her period. wtf! they are all me menstruating at the same time.[/quote]some of the girls could be working during their period. why not? they only have to blow. others could be fibbing because they only want to blow. if you want full sex, you should ask for it up front i think, if in a bj bar.
you want more than a blow, so i suggest you go to a more traditional place like mango, cherry, sw, tulip, annies, etc. sure its going to cost you a little more but you will get a lot more including the girl being properly naked and enjoying her body properly. i guess you are new and trying out everything to see what its like, but would be interested to hear if you preferred [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] or cherry overall or both. i once went to eden to try, but never really wanted it again as everything too scripted like a play and girls not pretty enough to make me think twice.
my only reason for doing bj bar was i was under time pressure like having 30 mins or so to get everything completed. i managed to finish in under 30 mins at angel once when had to leave urgently, and that was with the girl messing around in the shower far too long. so even for quickie, bj bar is not essential.
others may like bj bar because its cheaper and they are lazy to fuck. if i want a super bbbj, i have a bargirl that can do that and her friend can lick my balls at the same time, and then can fuck them both and do all sorts of things. yes it costs more, but i am merely indicating you need to weigh up whether you want a wide range of services that costs a bit more or a narrow range that is bargain basement. decide up front.
the question is, are you really better off at a bj bar? each to their own preference of course!
in any place, you can have bad luck and run into the girl has sponge stuffed up the pussy. they call it "fong naam" (sponge) or "luuk kai" (meaning baby chicken) for some strange reason, but usually means there is blood around at that time. i find it pretty much impossible to fuck a girl with sponge stuffed in (i am not the shortest) and usually try to get them to take it out. however some are not willing. girls are not given 5 days off in a row at many establishments even though they may have a difficult period. some have the decency to warn you first that they can only do bj. e. g. went to see gaew at pink and was warned "no sex" available. bj only. we had sex anyway as i did not care and wasn't much colour at the time. she was more horny than usual too.
[quote=syzygies;1423585]you want more than a blow, so i suggest you go to a more traditional place like mango, cherry, sw, tulip, annies, etc. sure its going to cost you a little more but you will get a lot more including the girl being properly naked and enjoying her body properly. i guess you are new and trying out everything to see what its like, but would be interested to hear if you preferred [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] or cherry overall or both. i once went to eden to try, but never really wanted it again as everything too scripted like a play and girls not pretty enough to make me think twice.[/quote]i was in cherrys the day before. of course that is much better. i had apple. i was new to bkk and i just wanted to try the bj bars out. it wasn't about money and i did have a couple gorgeous semi pros i like to save for the night time lt fucks so that's why maybe the bj bars appealed to me mid afternoon. next time i will be more prepared. and i will ask up front if boom boom available.
i've had all the same experiences in a blow job bar that i've had at tulips or mangos except a shower. of course it only lasts for 30 to 40 minutes but then i only pay 1, 000 bt. most often at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. it makes for a nice quicky.
I got a couple freebies. One was definitely a freebie since she wasn't even Thai. She was an Aussie I met at the British pub on soi 8. There was some rugby game earlier and she has a little drunk and I danced with her a bit then took her to oskars and then my hotel. Well I bought some drinks does that count. About 700 bhat worth but she stayed all night till about 11am and kept calling for more but I was busy with other women.
The other was a Thai girl I met online so I had to put in leg work before my trip. DIA works for freebies sometimes. I took her to lunch terminal 21 then back to htl for 2 times mid afternoon. Even offered bareback.
Short report from my first and half second day in BKK, short because written on my galaxy tab.
Arrived early in the morning yesterday (Friday) Had booked an early outcall from EZ with Honey. Seemed like she was a bit shy in the beginning, but when I showed her all my tricks she became really hot and GFE. The pics of her at their website shows how she really looks, not fantasy photoshopped. Two pops but no backdoor action. I will give her 8/10 in total. She will not be available for some time as she was going for holiday, I think she said 10 days.
In the evening I went to Suzie Wongs. Spotted a slim tall girl with really small tits. The servant girl could not mistake my eyes and asked if I would like her to sit with me. She came over after her dance number and showed up yo be really nice. Her name is Bow (pronounced like in elbow) and she is 28, but like most thais she looks younger. Bf'd her and went back to my hotel for ST. Had a really good time. Bow was very different to Honey, but a very nice personality. Took her back to Suzie Wong when we were finished. She said she wanted to take a walk at the night market to look for shoes for her daghter. 2.5 years old. Not a trace of having a kid on her body. Bow will also get 8/10 in total.
Today I headed towards Patpong 2, for my first visit to SOL. When I came there only two ladies sitting outside, nothing for me so I decided to kill a couple of hours at MBK and be back. When I came back about 6 or 7 ladies sitting outside. I picked a little bit chubby girl with decsent face and in we entered. A guy was sitting in the bar with a real cutie. My lady pointed to the inner sofa and we sat down, she asked me to undress, and I told her to undress as well. She said her name was Earn. She started BJ and after a while she asked if I wanted boom boom. I said ok and we tried that too. I could feel I came too many times yesterday so it would be hard for me to cum today. But Earn knew her job and made me cum after hard work.
I will be back for sure!
Hi guys,
I know that this might variate according to quality and place but I haven't been I'm Bangkok for a while and I was quoted yesterday 4000 from a FL of course I say NO but I was wondering what is the on going rate for Lt? Any insights? Also for bar fine, thanks and enjoy!
I will report my trip in a few days!
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1423837]The servant girl could not mistake my eyes and asked if I would like her to sit with me.[/QUOTE]Slip of the tongue? Waitress or serving girl. Bo / Bow is a good one with very good BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Primusduvel; 1423840]Hi guys,
I know that this might variate according to quality and place but I haven't been I'm Bangkok for a while and I was quoted yesterday 4000 from a FL of course I say NO but I was wondering what is the on going rate for Lt? Any insights? Also for bar fine, thanks and enjoy!
I will report my trip in a few days![/QUOTE]4, 000 is the going rate. If you took the time to look / search at many reports on these threads you would know it is correct.
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[QUOTE=Duniawala;1423968]4, 000 is the going rate. If you took the time to look / search at many reports on these threads you would know it is correct.[/QUOTE]That's for just any old streetwalker? I wouldn't know, I've never done 'long time' in my life, but it is an astounding figure. Isn't it still 1, 000-1, 500 in Pattaya? Pretty amazing that it is 3 to 4 times as much in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1423968]4, 000 is the going rate. If you took the time to look / search at many reports on these threads you would know it is correct.[/QUOTE]No way. 4000 for a FL long time?
I don't care much for LT, but as late as this February, I've had a FL (met her at McDonalds Soi 5) for 1500 for 5-6h, and she was happy. Recently, a nice 2h ST for 1000 with a regular, again near Soi 5 (plus tip, she deserved it). The going rate did go up, used to be 1000 ST / 1500-2000 LT few years back.
I'm sure some girls ask 4000 (and there are chumps who pay that) , but going rate for LT is 2000-2500 for girls in the street or Beergarden. My impression is that early in the evening girls might be hoping for 2-3 clients, so if you're asking someone at 9pm, the LT price may be different than 2 am.
The good approach is NOT to ask the going rate, but make your offer first. It's called anchoring, a common negotiation tactic. BTW, if you start of at 1500 and up it to 2000, she'll feel way better than if she starts with 4000 and you lower it to 2500.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1423968]4, 000 is the going rate. If you took the time to look / search at many reports on these threads you would know it is correct.[/QUOTE]That's more for a gogo girl.
Friend of mine got a decent FL at bier Garden for 3000. I gave 1000 or maybe 1500 for a mobile bar girl (nothing special, I would have blande myself If I'd paid more) off Low Sukhumvit.
I give 2500 to a regular for each of The 2-3 days she spends with me.
I am no price policee, but I think 4k should not be the norm. Even if it tends to be a demanding price.
FL from clubs BKK LT play. I stick 3K to them when they leave (A+)
FL from Biergarden BKK ST play. 1-2K depends on performance (A+)
Spasso BKK LT play. I stick 5K to them when they leave (A+)
FL Beachroad Pattaya VST (Very Short Time).1K Pipeline pressure release only A+)
FL from clubs Pattaya LT play. I stick 2-3K to them when they leave (A+)
LT ranges from approx 8. 12hrs.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1423884]Slip of the tongue? Waitress or serving girl. Bo / Bow is a good one with very good BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Of course I mean waitress, I just coldnt find the word right then, as english is not my naive language.
[QUOTE=DanGood; 1422669]Does any one has experience with a Thai squirting girl? Any place and name to advice me?
As I know the Thai girls, they surely have difficulties to squirt and to accept it. But I'm fun and like very much this pleasure, not just a normal cum or a bit more wet than usual. What I mean is the real explosive squirt and the very specific pleasure face that can not be simulated! Wouaaaa what a reward for a man to see this and to have a real feeling to give something very special to a girl.[/QUOTE]It happaned to me only once with a girl I met in a club.
She was part of group and she spilled her drink on me, she was so emberessed for that but she was hot as hell skinny type of girl. So I offered to buy her next round. I found myself partying with 6 girls. She was nearly wated when we were leaving the club and told me she want to fuck me and as a gentleman I had to let her. I had no idea that she literally ment that. She trew me to bed and sat on my face, after a while she she began to ride meand couple of minutes later she squirted on me. That was the best sex of my life with no holes barred. I still have no idea if she was WG or not, haven't ask for any money or behave like one and I diddn't offer any to insult her. I guess she had a normal job cause we could only spend the weekend together and she left sayying "I have work tomorrow"
[QUOTE=Harold444;1424011]I miss all those Rainbow bars reports. What happened. LOL.[/QUOTE]We get them from you, no need for others, LOL.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1424017]Here we go again. Prices wo photos mean absolutely nothing. Not everyone wants whats available on the streets, no offense but there is good reason why many girls go for cheap.[/QUOTE]I agree with this statement. Different people have different tastes as well, and it all comes down to your personal taste and standards. Unfortunately, the going rate for the best lookers at go go bars is 4000 to 4000+ these days (these girls know they will get business so will hardly budge on their prices). Obviously, the ones that don't go out often will settle for less, or there may be other factors such as whether you are a loyal customer or they just want to go off with you and not bother waiting or dancing.
Another factor that comes into play is time, or basically how many days you are in Thailand. Personally, I'm only in Thailand for under a week at a time and would like to maximize the utility I get from my trip. This basically means I rather pay a little more to ensure that I get the good looker that I want rather than taking my chances visiting all the different places / or waiting near the end of the night so the girl would drop her price down from 4000-3000 LT. Too many times I have experienced waiting a tad longer and then seeing another clientele take the girl that I wanted and book her for LT. Many would say, well check out another place, but this again comes back to standards and tastes. Often when I go to the supposedly better go go's Rainbow 4 or Bacarra, I see 3-4 girls that I really want to take home, and these girls usually don't settle for less money and some don't even settle for LT.
What I'm trying to say is that there a few factors that dictate the prices. Don't over pay too much but go along with what you think is a fair market price for that specific standard of girl. I'm always envious of the guys that pay 2500-3000 for LT at a go go bar, but usually the people I go with that pay that amount either pay it to the girl thats not my taste or they are in town for much longer time and can afford the wait / not having a girl for a night.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1424013]That's more for a gogo girl.
Friend of mine got a decent FL at bier Garden for 3000. I gave 1000 or maybe 1500 for a mobile bar girl (nothing special, I would have blande myself If I'd paid more) off Low Sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]But you didn't? Perhaps you are like me and struggle to find too many appealing girls at Bier G (sure I don't go there often). I also don't like the clothes covering their bodies and possible hidden bomb sites, saggy tits, whatever.
Why bother with trying to specify the right price? We all know that prices vary tremendously depending on true visual quality, the place she works, and what quality a girl sees herself as or the management see her as, demand for her, and performance is largely not relevant to the price.
More than 90% of the time gogo bargirls are not discussing price with me (not talking Rainbow 4 here) , even the ones I did not go with before. So its purely up to me to come up with a fair price for the quality, the time, and the effort. I guess the other staff tip the girl off that I am an easy going (not too demanding) and fair customer.
I don't take any girl long time unless I know her already and know the chemistry is good. A great ST could be transformed to a LT, if is really good. I also don't take any average or below average looks.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1424025]FL from clubs BKK LT play. I stick 3K to them when they leave (A+)
FL from Biergarden BKK ST play. 1-2K depends on performance (A+)
Spasso BKK LT play. I stick 5K to them when they leave (A+)
FL Beachroad Pattaya VST (Very Short Time).1K Pipeline pressure release only A+)
FL from clubs Pattaya LT play. I stick 2-3K to them when they leave (A+)
LT ranges from approx 8. 12hrs.[/QUOTE]Clear indications of the market prices and useful in that anyone asking for higher rates can be told to be*gg*are off!
No doubt the cheap Charlies will object but those are prices I used last November.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1424162]But you didn't? Perhaps you are like me and struggle to find too many appealing girls at Bier G (sure I don't go there often). I also don't like the clothes covering their bodies and possible hidden bomb sites, saggy tits, whatever.[/QUOTE]I didn't pick up at bier garden as I was already with a girl when we went there (she likes to browse there and look at the scene).
There is always a 20% of doable girls / ladies at BG, I did not pick up yet for other reasons, and for doable I say 7's.
I agree that the dresses might hide a hit.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1424269]There is always a 20% of doable girls / ladies at BG, I did not pick up yet for other reasons, and for doable I say 7's.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Normally posters are highly critical of the BG claiming there are no WGs under 50 and that all weigh over 70 Kgs.
My experience, based on daily visits whenever I am in Bangkok, is that from 11am to 8pm (I am out elsewhere in the late evening) there are always
A few WGs there. Sometimes 10 percent; sometimes 30 percent. No need to leave without if one is interested.
OK guys, my reply to Primusduvel was made in fun. The poster doesn't have the decency to even look for posts on this topic, which have been done to the nth degree. And then he cheekily asks for info?
I am surprised that so many of you took my reply in a literal sense.
sorry about the delay in posting about my activities but some damned thing called work has been interfering. indeed, i have now even left thailand. however, i have kept notes and will recount the tales.
after the disaster of the neurotic one from nana i decided to stick to cowboy. i went to dollhouse on day 4, the wednesday. reasonable show in there and i was attracted by one in particular so asked her to join me. she had reasonable english so we chatted a bit. name is pit. she gets my full recommendation. it was with some trepidation that i invited her back to the hotel because it is so, so easy for an st to slide into becoming a lt and i had a heavy day of work on the thursday, when i knew i would be on my feet all day from a 6. 30am pick up by the company.
back we went to the sofitel. nobody even checks visitors in the sofitel, you just walk in / out with whoever on your arm. mind you i would have loved to have given one to the door-girl at the sofitel. not a cracker but a cheeky smile and i always gave her a huge wink as i brought a new lady visitor in or out and always received a knowing smile in response.
i digress, as usual. pit was a cracker in the room. fully made up for the poor show from nana the night before. we did lots of exploring in many ways although a itself was not on. she was tight, really tight and squeaked a bit. ok, i am not small and i had to take it gently to get first penetration. after that it was ok. she almost squirted from tongue attention. can you almost squirt? i do not know. perhaps she just peed on me a bit but whatever it was very wet and we rolled over giggling like a pair of teenagers. me a teenager that was a long time ago.
i am proud to say that i kept to my resolve to keep to short time and not go on all night. i gave her a nice little present (*) on top of a good fee and then walked her back all the way to dollhouse handing her over to the mamasan at the door with an over-acted flourish and saying how good she had been. yes, i know i am a creep in that sense, but it was all fun.
(*) presents. when i travel i always bring decent branded / tagged marks & spencer / la senza or similar panties, usually a silky type. these cost little (buy in the sales or ebay typically Ł3 a go) are easy to pack and they really are well received. they have resulted in many a 'round 2' or a 'special' on a subsequent visit.
gali
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1424388]Sorry about the delay in posting about my activities but some damned thing called WORK has been interfering. Indeed, I have now even left Thailand. However, I have kept notes and will recount the tales.
Gali[/QUOTE]Ah yes, had to work today. Cooked my own dinner of steak and stir fired-veg at about 9PM. Left the house at 10:30PM and arrived at Suzi Wong just as the downpour struck around 11PM. Was out of there in less than 1 hour with Bow and Dtom, same pair as previously, a few times. They do Les very well together. Sent me to heaven. 1:45AM stopped for a quick mini-supper and drink and home. Surely will sleep well now.
Previous time at Suzi chose Noi and Yao. Tonight Yao was there and could have taken Ma. So plenty of options even though was late.
[quote=galinsoga; 1424388]sorry about the delay in posting about my activities but some damned thing called work has been interfering. indeed, i have now even left thailand. however, i have kept notes and will recount the tales.
after the disaster of the neurotic one from nana i decided to stick to cowboy. i went to dollhouse on day 4, the wednesday. reasonable show in there and i was attracted by one in particular so asked her to join me. she had reasonable english so we chatted a bit. name is pit. she gets my full recommendation. it was with some trepidation that i invited her back to the hotel because it is so, so easy for an st to slide into becoming a lt and i had a heavy day of work on the thursday, when i knew i would be on my feet all day from a 6. 30am pick up by the company.
back we went to the sofitel. nobody even checks visitors in the sofitel, you just walk in / out with whoever on your arm. mind you i would have loved to have given one to the door-girl at the sofitel. not a cracker but a cheeky smile and i always gave her a huge wink as i brought a new lady visitor in or out and always received a knowing smile in response.
i digress, as usual. pit was a cracker in the room. fully made up for the poor show from nana the night before. we did lots of exploring in many ways although a itself was not on. she was tight, really tight and squeaked a bit. ok, i am not small and i had to take it gently to get first penetration. after that it was ok. she almost squirted from tongue attention. can you almost squirt? i do not know. perhaps she just peed on me a bit but whatever it was very wet and we rolled over giggling like a pair of teenagers. me a teenager that was a long time ago.
i am proud to say that i kept to my resolve to keep to short time and not go on all night. i gave her a nice little present (*) on top of a good fee and then walked her back all the way to dollhouse handing her over to the mamasan at the door with an over-acted flourish and saying how good she had been. yes, i know i am a creep in that sense, but it was all fun.
(*) presents. when i travel i always bring decent branded / tagged marks & spencer / la senza or similar panties, usually a silky type. these cost little (buy in the sales or ebay typically Ł3 a go) are easy to pack and they really are well received. they have resulted in many a 'round 2' or a 'special' on a subsequent visit.
gali[/quote]i just sent you a pm. maybe when i get over to the uk again we can look each other up and commensurate. i personally always (almost) go lt with the girl as i am with you when you said there is nothing like waking up with a sweet young thing next to you and a good morning hard on! i agree on the "little" presents-sometimes it is the thought that counts! question for you, you work in thailand and i am looking for a luggage manufacturer as i understand there are several good ones in thailand-any suggestions? if i can find what i need, then i may have a reason to go again.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1424413]arrived at Suzi Wong just as the downpour struck around 11PM. Was out of there in less than 1 hour with Bow and Dtom, same pair as previously, a few times.[/QUOTE]Haha, I saw you yesterday Syzygies. I went to Suzie's early, around 9 PM. Bow saw me when I sat down and jumped off the stage to welcome me. I told her from start that I had promised Little Dextro holiday and early sleep. But she sat with me all the time anyway. Really nice girl. Eventually after a dancing number she came up to me and told me she had a repeat customer, so she had to go and sit with him.
I saw you and the 2 girls Syzygies, I was sitting opposite you on the other side of the stage! Bow came over to say goodbye when I was leaving when rain stopped. On my way home I met Bow's brother and said hi to her from big sister.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol; 1424506]Haha, I saw you yesterday Syzygies. I went to Suzie's early, around 9 PM. Bow saw me when I sat down and jumped off the stage to welcome me. I told her from start that I had promised Little Dextro holiday and early sleep. But she sat with me all the time anyway. Really nice girl. Eventually after a dancing number she came up to me and told me she had a repeat customer, so she had to go and sit with him.
I saw you and the 2 girls Syzygies, I was sitting opposite you on the other side of the stage! Bow came over to say goodbye when I was leaving when rain stopped. On my way home I met Bow's brother and said hi to her from big sister.[/QUOTE]I never saw Bo dance at all last night. I did see her flitting between you and me though.
"On my way home I met Bow's brother and said hi to her from big sister." I'm lost! Lost in Translation?
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1424558]I never saw Bo dance at all last night. I did see her flitting between you and me though.
"On my way home I met Bow's brother and said hi to her from big sister." I'm lost! Lost in Translation?[/QUOTE]And if I tell you I'm not lost in translation, maybe you understand what I mean? . Anyway its a subject we are not supposed to discuss in this forum.
A heavy day of work due on Friday so I thought I would NOT go looking for pussy tonight. The 'best laid plans of mice & men' and all that.
I went through my business papers etc for the next day and then thought oh sod it, and went down to Cowboy / Suzi's.
I cannot remember what time I arrived but there were several good stage shows that evening. Body painting with fluorescent paint / light, ping pong balls, flower strings from up the fannys, some guy doing fire breathing, soapy jobs, and a couple of lesbo shows. All VERY good.
One girl stood out especially in the lesbo shows because my impression was that she really enjoyed the attention. I regret I cannot remember the number but quite tall and VERY athletic with seemingly no inhibitions. I am QUITE sure you more resident / local guys will know who she is from that description. A couple of times I slipped a banknote in her tights top and was repaid with a wide open full frontal and full rear dance display. She was not a looker (in my view) or I may have even tried to bar fine her. I suspect she was so athletic she would have killed me!
Anyway, ALMOST true to my word that I would not go looking for pussy I did not bar fine anyone and went back just on midnight. First night alone since I have been here. I will confess that I was looking for the small girl (Bee / No 7) I had bar fined earlier in the week and if that if she had been there then my resolve would have just collapsed. She is not a mega-looker but she is fun.
. To be continued.
Gali
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1424601]I went through my business papers etc for the next day and then thought oh sod it, and went down to Cowboy / Suzi's.
I cannot remember what time I arrived but there were several good stage shows that evening. Body painting with fluorescent paint / light, ping pong balls, flower strings from up the fannys, some guy doing fire breathing, soapy jobs, and a couple of lesbo shows. All VERY good.
One girl stood out especially in the lesbo shows because my impression was that she really enjoyed the attention. I regret I cannot remember the number but quite tall and VERY athletic with seemingly no inhibitions. I am QUITE sure you more resident / local guys will know who she is from that description. A couple of times I slipped a banknote in her tights top and was repaid with a wide open full frontal and full rear dance display. She was not a looker (in my view) or I may have even tried to bar fine her. I suspect she was so athletic she would have killed me! I[/QUOTE]Not all the shows are good in my opinion.
I hate in order of worst to less bad:
1. Fire show (stinky and nothing to do with naked girls)
2. Needle Show (noisy balloon popping)
3. Ping Pong, or Smoking (ugly but okay as I just don't watch)
I like (beautiful or sexy shows) :
1. Lesbian.
2. Oil
3. Bathing (Aap Naam)
4. Painting
Beer show is half like, half hate, due to flying beer spray.
The least shy girl of all who is into being rather lewd is "Ma" (flat tone or maybe low tone). Your description was not very detailed. Ma is tallish, has reasonably good sized natural tits that sag just a little, slightly scrawny ass but O. K, and light brownish long hair. Very wayward but is a good fuck. Active dancer. I could have the wrong one but 50% chance I am right. Has a very raspy voice which puts one off a little not to mention the extra slutty behaviour compared to the other average girls there. Quite reasonable looking without being really pretty. If she was a little shyer (LOL) , I would probably like her a lot.
On a tangent:
"Lai" is a girl that is very good looking but it seems that hardly any of the other girls like her. It appears that she is not just "over the top" with customers but even when she talks to other girls. She is like a Ladyboy who was accidentally born in a girl's body but cannot bring herself to be a "normal" girl in personality. Instead seems like a hyped up bad actress.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1424634]Not all the shows are good in my opinion.
I hate in order of worst to less bad:
1. Fire show (stinky and nothing to do with naked girls)
2. Needle Show (noisy balloon popping)
3. Ping Pong, or Smoking (ugly but okay as I just don't watch)
I like (beautiful or sexy shows) :
1. Lesbian.
2. Oil
3. Bathing (Aap Naam)
4. Painting
Beer show is half like, half hate, due to flying beer spray.
The least shy girl of all who is into being rather lewd is "Ma" (flat tone or maybe low tone). Your description was not very detailed. Ma is tallish, has reasonably good sized natural tits that sag just a little, slightly scrawny ass but O. K, and light brownish long hair. Very wayward but is a good fuck. Active dancer. I could have the wrong one but 50% chance I am right. Has a very raspy voice which puts one off a little not to mention the extra slutty behaviour compared to the other average girls there. Quite reasonable looking without being really pretty. If she was a little shyer (LOL) , I would probably like her a lot.
On a tangent:
"Lai" is a girl that is very good looking but it seems that hardly any of the other girls like her. It appears that she is not just "over the top" with customers but even when she talks to other girls. She is like a Ladyboy who was accidentally born in a girl's body but cannot bring herself to be a "normal" girl in personality. Instead seems like a hyped up bad actress.[/QUOTE]Your description of Ma is spot on. Undoubtedly that was her. I would love to try her out, so to speak, but as I said I suspect that at my age it would kill me.
Your show preferences and mine agree totally.
I need (desperately) a longer time in BKK to get to know the girls in more detail. In every sense. Back here at an ambient 15oC and a grey sky with a zillion post visit business jobs to do, a house renovation to supervise and an apartment purchase overseas being screwed up by bank fund transfer issues I would give a LOT to be back in BKK.
Cheers Gali
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1424643]Your description of Ma is spot on. Undoubtedly that was her. I would love to try her out, so to speak, but as I said I suspect that at my age it would kill me.
Your show preferences and mine agree totally.[/QUOTE]I don't know your age, but I think Ma would be no problem, and its up to you to control how active you are. Its not hard work to just lie there and have the girl blow you and ride you, if you are not feeling energetic. I seem to recall Ma was exceptionally good for doggy, but I would have to go back to old report to check my memory was not deceiving me.
Lucky I checked. 19th Jan I wrote:
"Fortunately it turned out that Maa was very highly sexed and was a super good fuck on the bed so it worked out extremely well indeed. In fact was so good, I even forgot to get a BJ out of her"
My memory is bad. I was struggling to remember she was that good and actually seemed rather horny and hot for it. Maybe I would not have sufficient energy either. LOL
Walking in Benjasiri Park this morning and scoop up a hott skinny Issan girl 3 days off the rice far. First time in Bangkok. The P4P angle is she is working in 1 of those little outside bars on Sukhumvit 22. Pay 25 baht for her BTS to my crib where I give her a proper pounding and she takes it like a champion. Complete submissive. Stares in my eyes entire blowjob. Wears my t shirt afterwards. Upon her suggestion, head over to buy cleaning supplies so she can clean my room. Beautiful. She helps me discover some hole in the wall, bomb shelter near me with great 20 baht meals I would've never known. Round 2. Both nuts spread over her chest. Skips work to stay with me. In bed studying her English, while I spare her pussy for the time being. Big pimpin'
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1424646]I don't know your age, but I think Ma would be no problem, and its up to you to control how active you are. Its not hard work to just lie there and have the girl blow you and ride you, if you are not feeling energetic. I seem to recall Ma was exceptionally good for doggy, but I would have to go back to old report to check my memory was not deceiving me.
Lucky I checked. 19th Jan I wrote:
"Fortunately it turned out that Maa was very highly sexed and was a super good fuck on the bed so it worked out extremely well indeed. In fact was so good, I even forgot to get a BJ out of her"
My memory is bad. I was struggling to remember she was that good and actually seemed rather horny and hot for it. Maybe I would not have sufficient energy either. LOL[/QUOTE]Syzgies.
I'm 72 next birthday!
If you see No7 / Bee in Suzie's some time (I am sure you will) tell her that the grey haired (what is left of it) and beaded Tony sends his love and will remember her if / when he gets back to BKK some time.
Gali
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1424720]Just once I would like to read someone say they were interested in a pretty (good looking) girl. LOL.
I know chances of pretty girls being fun are slim but hell they are still pretee.[/QUOTE]I you read many of my posts you would know I am a sucker for pretty girls to the extent that I have paid well over the going rates for girls of superior looks.
I tend to choose girls firstly based on a face that appeals and then having a hot ass and good waist to thigh ratio and a bit of sexy between the thigh gap. Then a good chemistry if possible.
Did I not mention that Suzie Wong has a very pretty girl called Noo Dee, not so light skin, that is heavily booked and very popular. There are quite a few others with looks well above average even if not stunning.
We all know Rainbow 4 has some very pretty girls but why go there and be disappointed with a girl who wants to do quickies. Sorry about generalising. There are some good girls there.
A had a very pretty girl at Utopia MP the other day, No. V28, named Noo Naa, one of the few with great all natural looks. Very costly but had a good time too. I would not have paid so much for an ordinary looking girl. My regular Utopia girl was busy as her customer extended to a 2nd session. Utopia is too pricy for westerners but recommended for East Asians (in appearance) who have no Farang Surcharge. Indians still have to pay the surcharge as not "Asians" in Thai way of thinking.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1424558]I never saw Bo dance at all last night. I did see her flitting between you and me though.[/QUOTE]What did you do to poor Bow last night? Did you take her long, long time or what? She didn't come to work tonight. .
So I have to go and check for her tomorrow again.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1424600]And if I tell you I'm not lost in translation, maybe you understand what I mean? . Anyway its a subject we are not supposed to discuss in this forum.[/QUOTE]okay I was a bit dumb. Bo never mentioned anything to me. BTW Girls often introduce us guys to a "brother" or "sister" that really isn't at all, and merely a close friend. Some forbidden subjects like LBs are okay if discussed in a non-sexual way. I mention them all the time without the Admin taking any offense. Like I was complaining about LBs trying to take over the Soi. As long as we stick to completely safe hetero subjects we are okay although talking about "lesbians" seems to be no problem too (as we mostly are talking about bi-sexual girls).
At SW "Not" and younger sister "Pat" are real sisters, but they don't do double bookings together so bad luck to all those guys with the sisters fetish. You will have to do them one at a time. Today I had Not and Yao. Wonderful session (and that is understating it). Several girls there at SW, maybe 7, are very reliable for me. No matter who is missing, I am bound to find someone else good. None of them are at all like Kaintuck's girls. Mine are all very slim in comparison, curvy but with big tits is not a requirement.
While we are on forbidden subjects, be careful to watch out for the "young" girls. I try to avoid them. Yao is about to turn 26, however Not is only 19 despite having a kid already. All the other girls I like are somewhat older.
Funny, when you said little Dextro was having the day off, I immediately thought it was very strange to go to the bar in those circumstances. If not going to have sex, I don't show up to the bar unless intending to drink a fair bit of alcohol. I sometimes have a different sort of day off. I don't go in the bar and just meet the girl outside for sex. That way I pay the BF but don't pay for any drinks and waste less time.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol; 1424768]What did you do to poor Bow last night? Did you take her long, long time or what? She didn't come to work tonight. .
So I have to go and check for her tomorrow again.[/QUOTE]Yes I saw she wasn't there and nor was Dtom. I took them only 2 hours and could not screw both at the same time (only 1 dick). Performed DATYs and received BJs. So probably under 30 mins of screwing each. I don't pop very quick. Bo has a long channel. She is made fine to take big ones so I don't think she is out of action at all.
This is not unusual, that girls fail to show the day after they made some good money. The management did not think I was relevant to them not showing. Yao won't show tomorrow, but nothing to do with the fact she likes to be fucked rather vigourously, and good chance Not will be missing too.
I am told Monday is a day that many girls like to take off and visit their kids or family in another province. Today was a holiday in the country where I work, as I discovered when my workmates did not show up online, so plenty of time for playing up.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1424702]I'm 72 next birthday!
If you see No7 / Bee in Suzie's some time (I am sure you will) tell her that the grey haired (what is left of it) and beaded Tony sends his love and will remember her if / when he gets back to BKK some time.
Gali[/QUOTE]We are sometimes just kids stuck in an older body. I hope I will still be up for plenty at 72, even I might have retired from work by then. I don't remember who Bee is (you indicated not mega-pretty), will try to look for the Number (I have no idea of the numbers of any girls I like) , but honestly I have too many girls at SW already (more than any other bar ever) that all seem to be really into both sex and money, so I have to be careful not to get to know too many more. LOL.
One German guy today looked like a kid, intoxicated or mesmerised by how sexy/pretty was Noo Dee today. He would stand close to where she danced and his eyes could hardly wander from her beautiful face, beautiful pussy and tits. Actually her ass is stupendous for me, too. I arrived really early but not before him.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1424774]Yes I saw she wasn't there and nor was Dtom. I took them only 2 hours and could not screw both at the same time (only 1 dick). Performed DATYs and received BJs. So probably under 30 mins of screwing each. I don't pop very quick. Bo has a long channel. She is made fine to take big ones so I don't think she is out of action at all.
This is not unusual, that girls fail to show the day after they made some good money. The management did not think I was relevant to them not showing. Yao won't show tomorrow, but nothing to do with the fact she likes to be fucked rather vigourously, and good chance Not will be missing too.
I am told Monday is a day that many girls like to take off and visit their kids or family in another province.[/QUOTE]Maybe you were sitting two steps down from me tonight, it was a guy who took out two girls. Time about 11? Same side you sat on yesterday but closer to the entrance.
If I should comment your precious post. Do you really mean SW would use girls that are too young? Not that I'm looking for the youngest. I like Fon when she dances, and she have a nice body too. I was sitting near a guy tonight and he told me she is really fun and nice girl. To me she looks very young but I heard yesterday she is 24-25.
Being in BKK for holiday alone is pretty boring for me I think, at least most of the 24 hours. How many hours can you fuck? Today I had an outcall from Cherry in the morning at 10 AM for 3 hours. I say WOW, I had a great time! But what to do the rest of the day. I pretty envy you guys who are working daytime and can have fun a couple of hours in the evening.
Sleepy now and will go to bed.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol; 1424791]Maybe you were sitting two steps down from me tonight, it was a guy who took out two girls. Time about 11? Same side you sat on yesterday but closer to the entrance.
If I should comment your precious post.
Being in BKK for holiday alone is pretty boring for me I think, at least most of the 24 hours. How many hours can you fuck?[/QUOTE]Don't you remember me from the other night? No, I was in really early and probably left with 2 girls about 9 at the latest. Took the girls to eat at Love Scene about 11PM.
I won't comment further on the forbidden subject. Lets just say its many years now since Thaksin came to power and cleaned out a lot of working girls that were either not Thai nationals or were ....
I am not bored in BKK as have to work most days. There are some touristy things you can do (I did most of them years ago) or go for a day trip somewhere. If you are going to spend time in Thailand in the long run, you could start some Language lessions to use up lots of time.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1408243]First day here. Damage 25 baht. Girl didn't want to go right to room so did the Thai version of dinner and a movie. Bought her a kiwi soda (tasted like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] when I asked her a sip) around the corner, then took her home and blew a huge load in her mouth. No spit. Good girl. About to kick her out and ask her to kiss my dick for good luck, felt a little life and get her to suck, lead to anal and load number 2 over her chest and then kick out. Offer her taxi money, but refused. Bangkok rules. Thai girls are cool. Not sure if the girl has sold her pussy but a very good performer. Think the girl just loves dick and not looking for more. If you want a friend with benefits or no p4p lay, would love to pass her off to a guy or 2 here. Looking for good valuable info in return (saving money is always a good one).
P. S. First time taking sideagra. Stuff works. Well done Thailand.[/QUOTE]2 days ago repeated with this girl who is least attractive Thai girl I've fucked. Unattractive girls like to kiss and feel loved. Whenever I fuck one, I try to keep the kissing under a minute or 2 and the part where they blow me as long as possible. Will be the last time I see her but wanted to make this report a warning to guys with Thai girlfriends who work in Thailand. I think a very large percentage probable cheat on their farang boyfriend.
I send here email "if you can come here in an hour, you can have my dick"
She lives an hour away and made it. Being blunt works beautifully with thai girls.
Find out she has lawyer boyfriend who is always working and cheats on him regularly. What is most disturbing is how dirty this girl is. Ass to mouth and then voluntarily licks my asshole for 25 minutes while jerking me off. Feel sorry for the poor bastard has to kiss this mouth each night. I was literally falling asleep while she gave me a 1 hour non stop blow job. Good technique but annoying when she stopped 5 minutes to asks me if I am sleeping which I had no energy to respond to. Wish a girl could just eat it non stop once til her mouth got filled. After an hour, wake up, pound her into submission, nut and send her on her way.
Woke up this morning with ham kaeng and felt I needed a quick relief. What to do? Headed over to Sala Daeng and SOL at around 11 AM. Walked slowly past Cleo Bar and tried to see how many ladies sitting outside. Could see two, but not what they looked like. Walked 30 meter further and took the mall back. When I came closer I could spot a pair of nice looking legs strech out, so I thought this will be fine! Came up to the ladies and looked at the one with the nice legs and saw a cute face, not a 10/10 but OK for a BJ bar. We went inside and she asked me if I wanted something to drink and I was just going to say Cola when an older lady came in and asked me if I could come back later because they were having some guys for repair their aircon. She said I could take my lady to the hotel near and I did. On the way to Pavillion I asked her name and she said Piang and I told her my name. In the room we undressed and she started BBBJ and it was really great! After a while I wantet boom boom and she took out a condom for me. She rode me cowgirl and it was wonderful, and as they say, wonderful is short so it was all over in a couple of minutes. Good job from Piang and I can really recommend her. I attach a picture of Piang and Pla, Piang is the girl to the right.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1424793]Don't you remember me from the other night? No, I was in really early and probably left with 2 girls about 9 at the latest. Took the girls to eat at Love Scene about 11PM.
I am not bored in BKK as have to work most days. There are some touristy things you can do (I did most of them years ago) or go for a day trip somewhere. If you are going to spend time in Thailand in the long run, you could start some Language lessions to use up lots of time.[/QUOTE]As I was sitting above the guy I had no chance to see him, I only saw the two girls came to sit with him.
Your idea of language lessons sounds like a very good idea, I have taken lessons at home some years ago so it would be great refresh my language skills (all I remember is a few words)
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1424903]2 days ago repeated with this girl who is least attractive Thai girl I've fucked.[/QUOTE]Do you still confirm 25bahts? That is not even change. It is clearing the pocket of a couple of coins.
She might be free, but un attractive?
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1425028]Do you still confirm 25bahts? That is not even change. It is clearing the pocket of a couple of coins.
She might be free, but un attractive?[/QUOTE]Yes, unlike my other freebies I think she would fuck almost anyone free PSE. She is being taken care of and just a horny girl cause her boyfriend always works and probably can't fuck good when he is free. She is always instantly wet. I highly suggest someone take me up on my offer and I will give you her email and you can thank me later. Bluntness and honesty will work fine. She is not a totally ugly girl, maybe a 4. 5, just below what I'm used to fucking. Her ass is pretty good if you can focus on that.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1424882]A lot of reports leave out the most important detail-PRICE. We want to know how much, for ex, how much for 2 flat chested girl for 2 hours?[/QUOTE]I fuck hot girls for free but almost anyone can fuck hot girls for $20-$30 in South East Asia if you are smart and patient. I do that too. Not flat chested either. The girls in Rainbow ain't that hot by the way. Just more expensive make-up.
Work finished at 6. 30. I'm knackered having been on my feet talking for literally 8 hours on each of 2 days. The audience seemed very appreciative and even tried to persuade me to stay over until the middle of the next week (regrettably not possible).
Decided I would give Cowboy another visit and went about 8. 30. I was in the place no more than 5 mins when one of the bar serving girls who I had flirted with heavily earlier in the week came up close, grinned, grabbed my hard 'member' through my trousers and said something in Thai. 2 mins later she came back with Bee / no7 who I had taken LT earlier in the week. It was arms around neck and a DFK.
I told Bee I had come to look for her the night before but could not find her. 'not working. You take other girl'? I (honestly) said no, and that seemed to go down well. Do these girls have rivalries I wonder? We had a few drinks, she went for a dance session but directed to me as I sat up against the dancing floor. Then I paid her barfine and off we went for a LT session. We stopped at MacDonalds next to Robinsons on the way for a bite to eat and THAT led to all sorts of complications in the early hours of the morning. Colloquially known as the sh*s.
Wait for the next episode of 'An old man in Bangkok'
Gali
[QUOTE=Galinsoga;1425103]I told Bee I had come to look for her the night before but could not find her. 'not working. You take other girl'? I (honestly) said no, and that seemed to go down well. Do these girls have rivalries I wonder?[/QUOTE]The short answer is "yes". Many girls get very jealous when their guys go with other women. It's more a territorial thing than jealously. It's really funny. I was in Pattaya and dropped into Roxy to see someone I'd taken before. I didn't immediately see her when I walked in because she was sitting with a customer. And from my seat I couldn't see her. So I bought a drink for another woman, she sat with me, then the original girl went on stage. Looked at me and smiled. At this time, I'd already BFed the new girl (with fantastic tits, but lousy lay).
The next night, I went back and convinced the original girl to sit with me. She was still angry."You butterfly!" This is kind of ironic considering she's a prostitute seeing many many guys. She got over it quickly enough and went with me, but had I had a thin skin, I think I would have left the club.
Many bar owners don't like to put up with that. And if a girl is too bad, he will let her go. In his mind, he runs a bar, and if a girl is driving guys away because of her attitude, she is a liability.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1425103]I told Bee I had come to look for her the night before but could not find her. 'not working. You take other girl'? I (honestly) said no, and that seemed to go down well. Do these girls have rivalries I wonder? We had a few drinks, she went for a dance session but directed to me as I sat up against the dancing floor. Then I paid her barfine and off we went for a LT session. We stopped at MacDonalds next to Robinsons on the way for a bite to eat and THAT led to all sorts of complications in the early hours of the morning.
Gali[/QUOTE]One, the girl will easily find out if you took some other girl, so firstly testing your honesty. 2nd, the girls like to know who they are competing against for your attention. There is an assumption by girls, until you prove otherwise that once you take a girl, you will want to take her again rather than change which is really a silly assumption but does happen. Weak guys will find it hard to escape from the regular girl to another. The girl will try to make you feel guilty about it. For renowned butterflies (like me) , who keep on switching girls to some extent, there is little problem. The word "butterfly" will not even come up, because in my case the girl would look silly, as though she is jealous. There are two types of jealousy, one is the feeling that a guy is cheating on a girl, which makes her not want him any more as feels betrayed, and 2nd when the girl wants something that some other girl has got or is getting. Its the 2nd type that dominates in some bargirls. The 2nd type we call "envy". Some girls just want to be top dog and assumed to be guys' first preferrence in general as this adds to the girl's status. Having said this, there are some exceptionally fantastic character bar-girls (maybe a lowish percentage) , the nicest you could ever meet, that do not suffer from envy or many other mental problems. They just work, have fun, and try to make a bit of money. Its dangerous to think bargirls are all the same. Their characters vary tremendously. Hence, some I like and some I hate. Some are fun but only tolerable for a short time (yack too much LOL). Others would maybe make a great wife (LOL. Realistically less than 1 percent I think).
My buddy (newbie) was approached by one of the worst quality girls in there in my opinion. Girls who arrive unrequested should always be sent away. He was too weak to get rid of her, and ended up taking her away for a rather poor session. The lesson to anyone is, you be in charge and select the girl carefully. Take your time. Having called a girl for a drink, can still call another one and decide later which one you like best. If unsure, give them all a miss.
Generally the girl is very happy if she is your number preference always and only do other girls as a backup. Because I usually take two, then they may still like to be my most regular No. 1 pick. However actually there are at least 8 girls I really like to take away in there. None of them show every day so I keep changing.
I am lucky. I can even ask the best girls and waitresses for assesment of what they think of other girls there and whether the girls might be fun for me. E. G. If Bow has the hots for a particular girl, she is probably bound to be fun for me too. Sometimes the waitress will warn me "no no, not that one, customers never repeat her".
You don't have to stick to one girl. Collect a few good ones, by all means.
You really like to eat Mackas? To me they don't really have anything much truly edible. There are plenty of better options. The hamburger stand at Soi 23 end of cowboy does a really good old fashioned burger, and even have black pepper available for me to enhance it a bit. They do hot dogs, french fries etc. Around the corner in Soi 23 is "Love Scene" a very nice Thai restaurant open very late indeed in fact I think it's 24 hour.
My 2 weeks of playing up are now highly curtailed as GF has returned. Still hope to get a nice one at home tonight.
Thanks guys for the input about the characters of the girls. Pretty much the same as amongst the groups of girls who work the bigger parlours back home.
Syzygies, you say "My 2 weeks of playing up are now highly curtailed as GF has returned. Still hope to get a nice one at home tonight". Humm, I do not know your background ie whether the GF is local or visiting from outside Thailand BUT. Your comment raises a VERY serious question.
I like Thailand, the place and the culture and the people appeal. In the nicest possible senses. A holiday there rather than work would be nice. BUT. Where can I "go" for a holiday in Thailand that is safe to take the Mrs? She is not daft and 2 mins in Sukhumvit would ring a million alarm bells which could, in the worst case, mean I would be accompanied on any future business visits. Dreadful thought.
I have never been elsewhere in Thailand but I suspect the major resorts of Pattaya, Phuket will have a lot of "in your face" bars and street attractions not a lot away from the styles of say Cowboy / Nana and the road between. The Mrs is far from naive and I am sure already has reservations about what may sideline attractions I may find on the last and any future business visits to the country. SO, I look for some holiday destinations that are tame in the context of street / bar attractions or other offered services.
Nice beaches, snorkelling, some organised countryside tours. Boring stuff like that.
Ideas please guys because if we want Christmas / New Year away (as we do this year) then I have to get bookings organised. The alternative is likely to be say a Latin American holiday eg Cartagena / Barranquilla (which is sort of home ground) but I think I would like Thailand.
Gali
"The Love Shack is a little old place where we can get together. Love Shack baby! Love Shack, that's where it's at! Funky little shack! Funky little shack!"
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1424793]Took the girls to eat at Love Scene about 11PM.[/QUOTE]Love Scene: I take my Baccara girls to Love Scene too. What a place! How do you describe the ambiance? I love it. Food is not bad either. The girls and I like the large clams and the som tum for starters. S, if we are ever in town at the same time, we will have to hook up there one night with our girls and have a little party.
On shagging different girls from the same bar: Don't try to hide anything or be dishonest. A Go Go has a thousand eyes and all the girls talk about the latest goings on. It is very important to start out the right way and be yourself so there will be no drama later. There are 4 girls I have been shagging at Baccara for a number of years. "M" is my #1 girl. I plain like her best. She knows it and so do the other girls. So there is no problem when I barfine "M" many times and only occasionally shag #2, #3, or #4. Everybody knows the score. I try to be a good guy. I like to be nice to all my dancing friends.
I dropped by Suzie Wong's a few times while I was in BKK. It is a much smaller bar (a lot less girls) and the vibe is very different here than at Baccara. I like the place. I have not barfined anybody yet, but I will. I am taking it slow and letting the girls get used to seeing me hang around. There are a couple of Suzie girls that caught my eye and they are starting to show some interest in me. I am looking forward to my next visit.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga;1425210]I like Thailand, the place and the culture and the people appeal. In the nicest possible senses. A holiday there rather than work would be nice. BUT. Where can I "go" for a holiday in Thailand that is safe to take the Mrs? She is not daft and 2 mins in Sukhumvit would ring a million alarm bells which could, in the worst case, mean I would be accompanied on any future business visits. Dreadful thought.[/QUOTE]I went backpacking in Northern Thailand with my wife. One of the best vacations we had. When we were back in BKK she asked me about the red-light district. I showed her Patpong, and she said "can't be, there must be more", and lo and behold! She found Nana and Sukhumvit by herself (Lonely Planet) , we had a very interesting walk around the place and the next day we went together to Annie's.
Never been to Phuket, but from what I get as feedback from my fellow countrymen who have been there, it looks like it's quite ok for a family-vacation. Maybe other forum members can elaborate or make other proposals.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga;1425210]I like Thailand, the place and the culture and the people appeal. In the nicest possible senses. A holiday there rather than work would be nice. BUT. Where can I "go" for a holiday in Thailand that is safe to take the Mrs? She is not daft and 2 mins in Sukhumvit would ring a million alarm bells which could, in the worst case, mean I would be accompanied on any future business visits. Dreadful thought.[/QUOTE]I always say that even when arriving in BKK airport a wife can sense what is going on this country. Do not even mention at departure level, check in counters, with young ladies (girls) welcoming or waving bye bye to guys of your age (whatever your age is, I assume you are not the age of the girls, LOL). Scaring too.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga;1425210]Nice beaches, snorkelling, some organised countryside tours. Boring stuff like that.Gali[/QUOTE]Lankawi in Malaysia?
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1425210]a VERY serious question.
I like Thailand, the place and the culture and the people appeal. In the nicest possible senses. A holiday there rather than work would be nice. BUT. Where can I "go" for a holiday in Thailand that is safe to take the Mrs? She is not daft and 2 mins in Sukhumvit would ring a million alarm bells which could, in the worst case, mean I would be accompanied on any future business visits. Dreadful thought.
I have never been elsewhere in Thailand but I suspect the major resorts of Pattaya, Phuket will have a lot of "in your face" bars and street attractions not a lot away from the styles of say Cowboy / Nana and the road between. SO, I look for some holiday destinations that are tame in the context of street / bar attractions or other offered services.
Nice beaches, snorkelling, some organised countryside tours. Boring stuff like that. Gali[/QUOTE]Galinsoga, I think everybody liked your 'old Man' reports. Good stuff. I understand your problem. You liked Thailand in many ways and so you want to share the positive experience (culture, cuisine, shopping, natural beauty) with your wife while at the same time, knowing that she is straight lady (G rated) , you don't want to tip her off about the dark R rated side and make her suspicious about what you might be doing on future trips when she is not with you. Fair enough and easily done.
BKK is a very cultural city. Just stay away from Sukhumvit. There is no need to even go here if you are not looking for girls. I recommend staying at the Oriental or Peninsula Hotel on the river. Show her the cultural sights and have a great couple of days. You won't see one working girl. Then head south and visit the islands.
The islands There are so many good ones it is not funny. Phuket is the most popular and most accessible island. Just stay away from Bangla Street in Patong, that's all. Like Sukhumvit, there is no reason to go to Patong unless you want girls. There are much nicer beaches elsewhere on Phuket Island. Stay on Kamala Beach, Kata Noi Beach, Nai Harn Beach or the private Pansea Beach. These beaches are very beautiful and relaxing and you won't see a Go Go or a hooker ever.
I could go on. There are many beautiful, relaxing, Thai islands with pretty beaches, coral reefs. crystal turquoise clear water, and much less development like Ko Lipe, but we should take this subject to Other Areas thread.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga;1425210][/QUOTE]Geez, G, take her to the numerous temples and go on a boat ride.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1425210]I like Thailand, the place and the culture and the people appeal. In the nicest possible senses. A holiday there rather than work would be nice. BUT. Where can I "go" for a holiday in Thailand that is safe to take the Mrs? She is not daft and 2 mins in Sukhumvit would ring a million alarm bells which could, in the worst case, mean I would be accompanied on any future business visits. Dreadful thought.
I have never been elsewhere in Thailand but I suspect the major resorts of Pattaya, Phuket will have a lot of "in your face" bars and street attractions not a lot away from the styles of say Cowboy / Nana and the road between. The Mrs is far from naive and I am sure already has reservations about what may sideline attractions I may find on the last and any future business visits to the country. SO, I look for some holiday destinations that are tame in the context of street / bar attractions or other offered services.
Nice beaches, snorkelling, some organised countryside tours. Boring stuff like that.[/QUOTE]Great question. So many websites online will tell you where to go, but they mostly don't focus on how to avoid P4P.
Places that have unavoidable P4P: Pattaya; Patong, Phuket; Karon, Phuket; Kata, Phuket; all of Phuket? ; Sukhumvit, Bangkok; Patong, Bangkok; Chaweng, Koh Samui; Lamai, Koh Samui.
You can stay near the river in Bangkok and be okay. Bring her to JJ market on the weekend. Also the floating market is nice as well as a canal tour. Don't forget the Grand Palace, what Arun, and what Po.
You can probably go to Ao Nang in Krabi without running into P4P if you do your research. Likewise, you can go to Phi Phi Island for sure without finding P4P. It's there, but actually quite hard to find. However, this island is being overrun by 20 somethings partying through the night, so maybe not your cup of tea.
I highly recommend the Similan Islands at least for a day trip, but they do have some overnight accommodations. It's rough out there, but the water and beaches are fantastic. Some of the best snorkeling and diving in Thailand and perhaps the world.
Your might be best to stay in an all inclusive resort some place.
Koh Lanta (also in Krabi) can be done without seeing any much P4P. Well, you might see the massage places and karaoke bars with the twinkly lights, but nothing like a beer bar or gogo. So they can easily be overlooked. However, I don't care for the beaches of Lanta.
Further south, you have Trang province. There are some nice islands down there that don't have any P4P and are wonderful if you are looking for secluded places to stay.
Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai in the north can both be done without seeing P4P. Just remember to do your research in advance and avoid the places where it is obvious.
The issue with anywhere you stay will be some guy taking a girl LLT (long-long-time) staying at the same place your are staying. As mentioned previously, seeing an old guy with a young girl will trigger thoughts of prostitution in the most naive. As mentioned as well, you might see this in the airports. I mostly see this not when the guys are leaving or going home in the international terminal, that place is a madhouse and the odd couples are easy to miss. However, when flying domestically is when you will see the odd couples.
During my next trip, I'm planning on doing a LLT with this girl I've grown fond of. I've asked her if she would mind wearing a wedding band. I was doing that to avoid the stares of strangers, but never thought that it might actually help out guys like you with their wives.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1425294]good ones it is not funny. Phuket is the most popular and most accessible island. Just stay away from Bangla Street in Patong, that's all. Like Sukhumvit, there is no reason to go to Patong unless you want girls. There are much nicer beaches elsewhere on Phuket Island. Stay on Kamala Beach, Kata Noi Beach, Nai Harn Beach or the private Pansea Beach. These beaches are very beautiful and relaxing and you won't see a Go Go or a hooker ever.[/QUOTE]I disagree with this. I think in Kata Noi, you will likely go through Kata (Yai?) and see the entertainment complex as well as beer bars along the road. Even my wife commented about the girls in the bars in Kamala as well. But yes, much less subdued.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1425210]I like Thailand, the place and the culture and the people appeal. In the nicest possible senses. A holiday there rather than work would be nice. BUT. Where can I "go" for a holiday in Thailand that is safe to take the Mrs? She is not daft and 2 mins in Sukhumvit would ring a million alarm bells which could, in the worst case, mean I would be accompanied on any future business visits. Dreadful thought.
I have never been elsewhere in Thailand but I suspect the major resorts of Pattaya, Phuket will have a lot of "in your face" bars and street attractions not a lot away from the styles of say Cowboy / Nana and the road between. The Mrs is far from naive and I am sure already has reservations about what may sideline attractions I may find on the last and any future business visits to the country. SO, I look for some holiday destinations that are tame in the context of street / bar attractions or other offered services.
Nice beaches, snorkelling, some organised countryside tours. Boring stuff like that.
Ideas please guys because if we want Christmas / New Year away (as we do this year) then I have to get bookings organised. The alternative is likely to be say a Latin American holiday eg Cartagena / Barranquilla (which is sort of home ground) but I think I would like Thailand.
Gali[/QUOTE]There is so much more to Thailand than girlie bars. It's a big country and it would take a couple of lifetimes to learn about all the little regional oddities and sample all the regional foods.
First order of business would be to stay away from lower Suk and the Silom areas. If you must stay in BKK, stay near the river or in the Sathorn areas. Better still, book a boutique hotel completely off the beaten track. They'll welcome the business and you probably won't encounter any farang, let alone a sex tourist.
Even better, avoid BKK altogether. If you want beach, Kata Noi in Phuket is very pretty. Book a hotel there and avoid soi Bangla in Patong. Just watch the taxi mafia and don't rent a jet ski. Krabi is nice, too. Koh Tao is quiet and pretty. Many other islands. On the gulf, try Koh Chang.
If you prefer outdoors and mountains, Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai are good bets. Stay away from the Loi Kroh area, which is pretty easy to do. You'll find a lot of farang in CM. Flight of the Gibbon is well worth the money.
Prefer something closer to BKK? Check out the boat hotels in Kanchanaburi. The bridge / museum / cemetery is worth a visit. Sukhothai is nice. Book a "local" hotel and eat where the locals eat.
Really off the beaten path? Try Nakhon Phanom. Nice riverside walks, very quiet at night.
I could go on, but you get the picture. Stay out of the farang areas and you'll minimize your encounters with "undesirables." Don't even consider Pattaya :D
[QUOTE=RBDave; 1425316.
The issue with anywhere you stay will be some guy taking a girl LLT (long-long-time) staying at the same place your are staying. As mentioned previously, seeing an old guy with a young girl will trigger thoughts of prostitution in the most naive. As mentioned as well, you might see this in the airports. I mostly see this not when the guys are leaving or going home in the international terminal,
[/QUOTE]You bring back a funny memory. Wife and I were going through tough times (it all fell apart a few weeks later and I've been happily single ever since) so we took a Krabi trip to see if there was any spirit left in us.
Arrived and went to lounge for a cocktail. Theres a 60 years guy, with the most gorgeous 20 years old girl I've seen in years. Slim lithe, pretty, great bod. He was clearly enjoying himself with her. Wife thought that that was what my future would be if I left her and incessantly berated me asking if I had no shame etc. Whereever I went in that hotel, this guy and his gf would appear. On the beach she wore a fabulous gold bikini, in the restaurants, always well made up but looking smoking hot. She was from Pnomh Penh I later found out.
Anyways if your wife sees girls younger and slimmer than she is, for sure jealousy will rear its ugly head, especially if the wife is past her prime.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1425210]Nice beaches, snorkelling, some organised countryside tours. Boring stuff like that.
Ideas please guys because if we want Christmas / New Year away (as we do this year) then I have to get bookings organised. The alternative is likely to be say a Latin American holiday eg Cartagena / Barranquilla (which is sort of home ground) but I think I would like Thailand.
Gali[/QUOTE]If you really want to see unspoiled Thailand come down to Ranong. Nok air and Happy Air fly there. There is just enough tourism to keep you comfortable and not a whiff of P4P. Search bookings for Koh Payam. There are also various hot spring parks in the area. Fresh seafood for such low prices. Most farang passing through Ranong are just doing visa runs and missing out on local charm.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1425336]You bring back a funny memory. Wife and I were going through tough times (it all fell apart a few weeks later and I've been happily single ever since) so we took a Krabi trip to see if there was any spirit left in us.
Arrived and went to lounge for a cocktail. Theres a 60 years guy, with the most gorgeous 20 years old girl I've seen in years. Slim lithe, pretty, great bod. He was clearly enjoying himself with her. Wife thought that that was what my future would be if I left her and incessantly berated me asking if I hd no shame etc. Whereever I went in that hotel, this guy and his gf would appear. On the beach she wore a fabulous gold bikini, in the restaurants, always well made up but looking smoking hot. She was from Pnomh Penh I later found out.
Anyways if your wife sees girls younger and slimmer than she is, for sure jealousy will rear its ugly head, especially if the wife is past her prime.[/QUOTE]Brings back memories of my neurotically jealous ex-wife. Sad thing is, her jealousy was a major reason our marriage ended. Eventually her insecurity caused me to lose respect for her. Stupid me, this trait was apparent in her while we were dating. A few years into the marriage it was also apparent my mother-in-law had the same trait. Like mother, like daughter. I was young and knew next to nothing. I failed to consider what it would be like to spend the rest of my life with an insecure, jealous woman. Like you, I've enjoyed the last twenty years of my life as a single man.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1425321]There is so much more to Thailand than girlie bars. It's a big country and it would take a couple of lifetimes to learn about all the little regional oddities and sample all the regional foods.
First order of business would be to stay away from lower Suk and the Silom areas. If you must stay in BKK, stay near the river or in the Sathorn areas. Better still, book a boutique hotel completely off the beaten track. They'll welcome the business and you probably won't encounter any farang, let alone a sex tourist.
Even better, avoid BKK altogether. If you want beach, Kata Noi in Phuket is very pretty. Book a hotel there and avoid soi Bangla in Patong. Just watch the taxi mafia and don't rent a jet ski. Krabi is nice, too. Koh Tao is quiet and pretty. Many other islands. On the gulf, try Koh Chang.
If you prefer outdoors and mountains, Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai are good bets. Stay away from the Loi Kroh area, which is pretty easy to do. You'll find a lot of farang in CM. Flight of the Gibbon is well worth the money.
Prefer something closer to BKK? Check out the boat hotels in Kanchanaburi. The bridge / museum / cemetery is worth a visit. Sukhothai is nice. Book a "local" hotel and eat where the locals eat.
Really off the beaten path? Try Nakhon Phanom. Nice riverside walks, very quiet at night.
I could go on, but you get the picture. Stay out of the farang areas and you'll minimize your encounters with "undesirables." Don't even consider Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Short comment: I haven't been in Thailand for more years than I can count, but do go to China and Korea on business. In Korea the daughter of my suppliers company is my host and she goes everywhere with me (kind of kills the mongering). To give you an idea, she is very cute and looks about 17 or 18 (in her 30's) , and I am in my 70's. She holds my hand puts her arms around me, etc, and it is not looked upon as anything that I have noticed. In China I have a young lady, slim, beautiful, that takes care of me there, she also works for one of the companies I do business with. Same deal-she is my agent for the business, or the company representative. You could pass off the odd occasional couple as business man and agent? Possible?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1425191]The girls in Rainbow 4 are the best you going to get for the avg sex tourist. There is a good reason why it and Baccara are the top dogs. Guys go where pretty girls are-uncanny isn't it.
And yes a lot of them arent hot at all. Majority are lukewarm to cold, LOL.
One would think Spanky s would be standing room only as there are reports that many hot girls are dancng nude there. Every time I go there I just don't see it, and the market seems to agree as there just isn't much of a crowd considering its rave reviews.[/QUOTE]Spanky's has dogs. Go to their website to see. The one in Pattaya is even worse. Baccara is far more superior then the rainbow's in my opinion. If you have no problem spending money why not invest $5 in each club to find that perfect girl for you. If the girl is pretty she is going to be barfined in 10 minutes. Thankfully for me, my tastes is different then most bar goers. 1) I am fanatical about big natural titties 2) ghetto booty. There is a large percentage of men who this does not appeal to, mostly Asian. If you like close to model looking spinners then I guess this is your best bet they are just the 3rd type of girl I like. Amateurs of all types can be found though for half the price, if you look beyond the salon make over.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1425210]I have never been elsewhere in Thailand but I suspect the major resorts of Pattaya, Phuket will have a lot of "in your face" bars and street attractions not a lot away from the styles of say Cowboy / Nana and the road between. The Mrs is far from naive and I am sure already has reservations about what may sideline attractions I may find on the last and any future business visits to the country. SO, I look for some holiday destinations that are tame in the context of street / bar attractions or other offered services.
Nice beaches, snorkelling, some organised countryside tours. Boring stuff like that.
Ideas please guys because if we want Christmas / New Year away (as we do this year) then I have to get bookings organised. The alternative is likely to be say a Latin American holiday eg Cartagena / Barranquilla (which is sort of home ground) but I think I would like Thailand.
Gali[/QUOTE]I would stay away from Phuket if it was me. I guess its O.K. if not at Patong beach. Too touristy of the wrong type really and definitely avoid Pataya. Close to Bangkok you have Koh Samet. It even has some coral. However some time of year the beach water is not so nice with stuff (seeds or flowers I forget) floating in it at the edges but still okay.
Koh Tao Coral Island is good. A bit hard to get to. Need to select a beach sheltered from the prevailing winds with nice coral. Tricky as the touristy web sites etc. Do not cover this aspect at all well. Avoid bad weather seasons here.
Its a 2 hr boat trip from Koh Samui.
Krabi is good but has a few small bars at Ao Nang. Mrs. might notice them. Railey (spelling?) beach for the hippy types.
Koh Lipe is possibly the best. Absolutely no girlie bars there. Great coral in the region. This is in Satun province. Tourists are mainly Swedish, Danish, etc. more into beautiful nature. Get there by flying to Hat Yai, then van to the port and boat to the coral Islands. Also have other islands Koh Terutao, Adang, etc.
I have not yet been to Koh Lanta but would like to.
In the north I like Mae Hong Son (Kaew Komol cave is hard to get to and tours don't go there but very special Calcite crystal cave) and Chiang Rai. Chaing Mai is popular.
Sukothai and Srisatchanalai (nearby) for the ancient temple ruins.
Someone mentioned Kanchanaburi for war museum and cemetary. For me that is really boring stuff. Instead I liked Erawan Falls but your average tourists don't go there. Not sure why tours are less focussed on natural stuff.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1425336]Arrived and went to lounge for a cocktail. Theres a 60 years guy, with the most gorgeous 20 years old girl I've seen in years. Slim lithe, pretty, great bod. He was clearly enjoying himself with her. Wife thought that that was what my future would be if I left her and incessantly berated me asking if I hd no shame etc. Whereever I went in that hotel, this guy and his gf would appear. On the beach she wore a fabulous gold bikini, in the restaurants, always well made up but looking smoking hot. She was from Pnomh Penh I later found out.[/QUOTE]You could run into this literally anywhere in Thailand. E. G. Could be me with my much younger Thai GF (okay she is over 30 but still pretty, slim, and hot).
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1425103]Work finished at 6. 30. I'm knackered having been on my feet talking for literally 8 hours on each of 2 days. The audience seemed very appreciative and even tried to persuade me to stay over until the middle of the next week (regrettably not possible).
Decided I would give Cowboy another visit and went about 8. 30. I was in the place no more than 5 mins when one of the bar serving girls who I had flirted with heavily earlier in the week came up close, grinned, grabbed my hard 'member' through my trousers and said something in Thai. 2 mins later she came back with Bee / no7 who I had taken LT earlier in the week. It was arms around neck and a DFK.
I told Bee I had come to look for her the night before but could not find her. 'not working. You take other girl'? I (honestly) said no, and that seemed to go down well. Do these girls have rivalries I wonder? We had a few drinks, she went for a dance session but directed to me as I sat up against the dancing floor. Then I paid her barfine and off we went for a LT session. We stopped at MacDonalds next to Robinsons on the way for a bite to eat and THAT led to all sorts of complications in the early hours of the morning. Colloquially known as the sh*s.
Wait for the next episode of 'An old man in Bangkok'
Gali[/QUOTE]The only reason a gogo bar worker is "jealous" of you going with somebody else is missing out on a trick and happens more if you are a big tipper. Imagining she somehow has a fancy for you is just that fanciful. Over time if she comes to believe that there might be a future with you she will become more possessive and warn off competition but for tourists on short trips it's money honey pure and simple and as it's your money you get to choose which honey to spend it on.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1425433]The only reason a gogo bar worker is "jealous" of you going with somebody else is missing out on a trick and happens more if you are a big tipper. Imagining she somehow has a fancy for you is just that fanciful. Over time if she comes to believe that there might be a future with you she will become more possessive and warn off competition but for tourists on short trips it's money honey pure and simple and as it's your money you get to choose which honey to spend it on.[/QUOTE]How many BGs really believe that 'there might be a future with you?" In reality the only future they look at is 'how long can I con this sucker into contributing to my life style?" along with the other suckers. Whilst the BGs may be uneducated they are not stupid and the only reason to go the bar girl route is that it pays better than selling soap in Robinson's.
Over night was awful. Bloody MacDonalds next to Robinsons. Took Bee in there for a burger etc after we left Cowboy / Suzi's. I felt ill (sick) not long after, had the runs and vomited during the night. Before the stomach problem set in we had 'partaken of moments of mutual enjoyment' so to speak and were settling down for the night. Then the stomach noises and feeling set in.
Bee, bless her she is a really nice girl, was as kind / considerate and helpful as she could be. Lots of hugs during the night while I was being ill / running to the loo. I guess eventually I / we just collapsed with tiredness because the pair of us only woke up at near 11am on the Saturday morning. I paid her well, gave her some presents (knicker things I had brought from UK as gifts and that are always appreciated plus a bottle of Scotch that I had not opened) then took her downstairs to see her into a taxi. Sad that we will probably never meet again. I really hope life is kind to her.
If any of you more resident guys meet her (Suzis, No 7) then say the old man Tony will always remember her. I meant to ask her for a personal phone number (in case she moves on from Suzi's before I can return) but with all the traumas of the stomach problems it went out of my head.
Went back to my room and packed the cases ready for the evening flight. It took a while because I was still a bit groggy. A couple of coffees and more stomach tabs, but nothing to eat, sorted things out by 1pm and I was feeling better.
After the success at Annie's earlier in the week I thought I would pay another visit as a 'last fling'. I did not arrive until 2. 30 (and taxi from the hotel to the airport was as at 6). I tried for No 41 who has good reports but not there so with no other guidance took 44. Young girl with quite short hair. She told me a name but I could not understand. After the visit I looked on the website and it seems she has a high rating.
If you want a massage she is good. Really does know how & where to apply the pressures on all bits of the body. She makes excellent use of her bum, which she being young is a bit bony, to apply pressure. That I enjoyed. After one of her wash-downs during the soapy I turned her round to give 69 and she sure jumped around during the tongue on her clit and with a little finger up her bum. SHE said she came and maybe she did.
Off the mat, through the tub and then onto the bed. Lots of fondles and then an oily all over. Nice. However, she was so adept with the oily and associate prostate massage that I came. Now, I am strictly a one-shot (remember my age) AND I have had what may euphemistically be called a 'busy week'. Floppyness set in so we hugged and then we BOTH fell fast asleep. Given the time in the soapy and bath and then initially on the bed I do not actually know for how long we were asleep but all told I was in Annie's 3 ź hours. And nobody came to knock on the door. So, well over time. I am glad I woke (I had to wake the girl up!) because it was getting close to my time for the airport. Quick walk back, shower and change, in the taxi and in the airport nice on time for 6. 30.
It will be a while before I travel again. But an African destination has been mentioned as likely. Been there before. Have a few phone numbers.
Cheers all. I enjoyed Bangkok and being a cunning old git adept at planning I will find some way to persuade the company to invite me back.
As another of my posts has indicated I will anyway likely return (accompanied) for a holiday. I have read and acknowledge all your words of wisdom on the subject of where is safe or at least saferer to take a Mrs so that she will subsequently not have too many reservations if I make unaccompanied business visit (s)
With best wishes and respect to you all.
Gali
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1425419]Someone mentioned Kanchanaburi for war museum and cemetary. For me that is really boring stuff. Instead I liked Erawan Falls but your average tourists don't go there. Not sure why tours are less focussed on natural stuff.[/QUOTE]Good call! I'd forgotten about Erawan. I think I made it about half way up the 7 levels, or whatever they're called. It was a scorching day. And you're right. Very few tourists.
If I would have seen piang I would have stopped in but I went around 3 pm on a Wednesday and everyone I saw were in their 40's and up so I decided to give my baby juice to a younger provider.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol; 1425007]Good job from Piang and I can really recommend her. I attach a picture of Piang and Pla, Piang is the girl to the right.
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[QUOTE=Galinsoga;1425451]If any of you more resident guys meet her (Suzis, No 7) then say the old man Tony will always remember her. I meant to ask her for a personal phone number (in case she moves on from Suzi's before I can return) but with all the traumas of the stomach problems it went out of my head.[/QUOTE]I could probably try to get the number for you. Not sure which day I will be back at Suzie and how often she takes day off, but a fair chance.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1425587]I could probably try to get the number for you. Not sure which day I will be back at Suzie and how often she takes day off, but a fair chance.[/QUOTE]I would be grateful, kind Sir. Last week she was off on Thursday. But I guess that is very variable (depending on the cash inflow from customers I suspect). I appreciate she may not wish to disclose a number. That is of course her right.
Gali
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1425093]I fuck hot girls for free but almost anyone can fuck hot girls for $20-$30 in South East Asia if you are smart and patient. I do that too. Not flat chested either. The girls in Rainbow ain't that hot by the way. Just more expensive make-up.[/QUOTE]I'm lost!
Which Rainbow? Its Rainbow 4 that is normally quoted as having a quite a few girls that are exceptionally pretty. Disregarding the faces there are plenty of hot bodies. They may not all be hot on the bed. Is that what you mean? Your makeup comment, suggests you refer to faces and I guess there is a lot of variation in taste. The reality is girls looks can improve with makeup, but it never makes a huge difference. Some girls are actually spoiled by too much makeup.
We know you are fucking uglies, so why would you claim that the Rainbow girls are not hot? I hope you are not talking late in the night when the good ones are gone already.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1425602]I'm lost!
Which Rainbow? Its Rainbow 4 that is normally quoted as having a quite a few girls that are exceptionally pretty. Disregarding the faces there are plenty of hot bodies. They may not all be hot on the bed. Is that what you mean? Your makeup comment, suggests you refer to faces and I guess there is a lot of variation in taste. The reality is girls looks can improve with makeup, but it never makes a huge difference. Some girls are actually spoiled by too much makeup.
We know you are fucking uglies, so why would you claim that the Rainbow girls are not hot? I hope you are not talking late in the night when the good ones are gone already.[/QUOTE]You know I'm fucking uglies? In that case, you don't know fucking shit. I've fucked 1 or 2 uglies in 70+ days in Thailand and have free hotties that I do not even bother getting in touch with. Try hanging out with your hot rainbow girl the next day without makeup. She will look like 3 million other girls in Bangkok but fuck worse. I live here and see these girls every day and yes sometimes fuck them 1 way or the other $$. Only 10% hot at Rainbow IMO if you have the bravado and know how to bar fine them before Yamato and Haruto. I had my pick of the litter already. Not interested again.
And I always thought it was the fellows from Mumbai and New Delhi who played the "l will negotitate for one girl but my 2 mates will be waiting in the room so we get pay less per pop" trick.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/05/23/3-iranians-ask-police-to-arrest-ladyboy-prostitute-accused-of-mobile-phone-theft/[/url]
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1424757]I you read many of my posts you would know I am a sucker for pretty girls to the extent that I have paid well over the going rates for girls of superior looks.
I tend to choose girls firstly based on a face that appeals and then having a hot ass and good waist to thigh ratio and a bit of sexy between the thigh gap. Then a good chemistry if possible.[/QUOTE]Seems like many Asians share the same sentiment as you. I think Asians are generally intimidated of thicker girls. From what I hear from the girls. 4 inches is the average and most can't last for a few minutes. Afterwards, they are looking for someone to be friend with and play with their hair. Maybe this is where the attitude stems but I don't find it a very masculine attitude. Me on the other hand, bang out those girls too but more attuned to Bodies Built for Fucking. A juicy ass to slap against my dick 900 times and a nice pair of titties to cum on to conclude the festivities. I make them' earn each and every last baht. Take no prisoners, american attitude. The IMO feminine Asian man has lead these big t&a beauties into thinking they are not 10s which works to my advantage day after day. On the other hand, I have to really lay the charm on when I fuck these boy body, pretty face girls because their ego is boosted way higher then it should be.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1425733]And I always thought it was the fellows from Mumbai and New Delhi who played the " l will negotitate for one girl but my 2 mates will be waiting in the room so we get pay less per pop" trick.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/05/23/3-iranians-ask-police-to-arrest-ladyboy-prostitute-accused-of-mobile-phone-theft/[/url][/QUOTE]You got to love some points in the article:
-attractive LB, repeated often in the article.
-price of ST revealed.
-nobody argued about having a LB in th room, it was mainly a financial issue.
-action of police to broker the deal by "letting the two parties negotiate.
-one of the LB not much dressed and asked "to dress properly" before going to police station.
-nobody question the fact there was some prostitution act going on, and prostitution is formally forbidden by law in Thailand.
We can really say " Amazing Thailand"!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1425733]And I always thought it was the fellows from Mumbai and New Delhi who played the " l will negotitate for one girl but my 2 mates will be waiting in the room so we get pay less per pop" trick.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/05/23/3-iranians-ask-police-to-arrest-ladyboy-prostitute-accused-of-mobile-phone-theft/[/url][/QUOTE]I find it amusing that the two guys who didn't pay and didn't have sex with her were demanding 2, 000THB each. She never agreed to it (and I do believe she did not) , so how could they possibly demand money? I can understand had they paid, but didn't get serviced, but this is BS.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1425602]The reality is girls looks can improve with makeup, but it never makes a huge difference.[/QUOTE]To hell you preach. I don't really like makeup on a woman at all, but it can make a huge difference. A friend of mine's wife is an ex porn star and you probably would not touch her with a 10 foot pole without the hair and makeup.
[url]https://www.google.com/search?q=with+and+without+makeup&tbm=isch&tbo=you&source=univ&sa=X&ei=bbudUYXzIpCA9gSx6YCoCg&ved=0CDAQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=643&sei=eLudUfetG5KO9ASMCw[/url]
[QUOTE=RBDave;1425752]I find it amusing that the two guys who didn't pay and didn't have sex with her were demanding 2, 000THB each. She never agreed to it (and I do believe she did not) , so how could they possibly demand money? I can understand had they paid, but didn't get serviced, but this is BS.[/QUOTE] Do any Thai policemen speak FArsi?
And nice touch of journalism,"the mobile Nokia phone is old and cheap, and the ladyboy uses a brand new iPhone 5 which is much better and more expensive". Thanks for the news flash Mr Brokow LOL
This report is a month old but just thought I share. I was in Bangkok for 2 days so I thought I take a stroll down to Nana Plaza. Did a few laps in the GoGo bar but finally settled on a girl from Angelwitch. She's says her name was Ao or something like that. Anyways, the girl in Angelwitch were all pretty stacked up top which was odd. She came to sit down after her round on stage and brushing a few other patrons off. She was pretty frisky waking the little guy up and saying "I only go ST but I horny. Take me. I make you feel good. I make you cum. Cum on baby." Well, the little head took control after awhile we were off to the room. She was enthusiastic but nothing was spectacular. She insisted on CBJ and continuing asking "You finish yet?" Well, that was putting me off so I just got it over with and sent her on her way.
The night was still going so I went to have a few drinks right outside the nana plaza bar. Big Dogs? Anyways, after awhile a nice girl with short hair came on to me and was pulling the same lines. Now I didn't want a repeat performance so I kept telling her no. She was persistant and by 1am, I was tired so I said ok for 1000 baht ST. She said her name was Naan. She was in her 20s and although not skinny but not fat either. It was pretty hot so I went to take a shower. She didn't wait and joined me. Looking good already. She gave me a BBBJ in the shower but I couldn't finish. We moved on to the bed and my god. She was a real trooper. She was insistent I cum after she's already cum a few times. We did it in every position imaginable and finally I had her leaning against the sink as I pounded her to finish. She could barely stand. We took a nap and before she left she tried to blow me to completion but to no avail. I was tired and ready to go to sleep anyways. She left but left her number on the notepad by the phone in case I wanted to see her again. Stupid me, I left it out and when they cleaned the room. So did the.
The next night I was on my way to Soi Cowboy but never made it that far. I was passing by Thermae's and she was outside. She immediately came up to me saying "Hello. Where you go? I come with you?" Long story short. I took her and the night is history as they say. A marathon fuck session aided by Mr. Blue and she was happy as could be. 2500 all in. The only thing she won't allow you to do is try to drill for fudge. I had an early flight but I sure was relieved of any pent up stress after Naan.
After the adventures at annies, eden club was next.
The wife was shopping in chatuchak market which was big enough for me to disappear for the 2 hours that I needed for eden.
I had already been there for a drink a couple of days back after getting my nuts sucked off at dr BJ by a massive lactating consultant.
Marc seemed to be a rather straight forward no nonsense kind of guy.
Eden is a club whuch will charge you for two ladies even if you take one lady. Their reasoning is that it takes atleast two women to fully satisfy a guy.
Well I was prepared to test this theory. I have had my threesomes in delhi but what I was about to experience was way beyond my imagination.
I chose one girl from either side of the line which meant that one of them was open to backdoor entry.
Both of them looked nice, one of the girls was quite tall.
Eden has a no fun no pay policy.
So I went in without paying. The first surprise-amazing room, it may not be the four seasons but it is brilliantly equipped and spotless clean.
The main features of the room were-mirrors all around, including the roof to enjoy the female anatomy from every possible angle.
Blue film playing on a small led screen on the wall in front.
Sex toys on the bed.
Attached showers.
The girls lovingly and thoroughly scrubbed me clean. They left me wondering why could I not clean myself so well everyday.
They showered themselves and proceeded to suck me rim me finger me, both of them together and always with my approval. The rimming was done expertly with the help of a condom barrier.
The BBBJ was absolutely the best I have received, I did not want to cim as I wanted my first session to end inside the lovely posterior of the specialist.
Some ky jelly and hard pounding in mish and cowgirl with me firmly entrenched in that lovely posterior. First cum inside the ass.
Shower, massage followed.
I proceeded to DATY the taller one (non anal). She went crazy, could make out as uptill that point she was a little reserved but the DATY got her all excited. She started facesitting me while the specialist was sucking me off.
Then the specialist put on a strap on and pounded the taller girl.
Soon I took over while she thrust her lubricated condom covered fingure to massage my prostate.
After the terrific sex came and lay down spent with both of them kissing me madly.
Rushed to take shower and dress, paid my dues happily and toot the first train to chatuchak.
Eden club was easily my best sexual experience in life and I just can't recommend it enough.
The girls are mosly silicone chested so if you don't like silicone (I don't) , it might just put you off a little, but notwithstanding that just go to eden ant attain your nirvana
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1425740]I make them' earn each and every last baht. Take no prisoners, american attitude.[/QUOTE]On the China thread, there's a guy just like you, his avatar is BigSwingingDick.
I don't write much here as not in BKK. But when there I try to add a little something. I seem to agree with Sygyies style of lady. Don't like the thick ones either. Pretty face in my opinion is the first criteria. Followed by body (usually thin and good legs ). Don't like big tits as just doesn't appeal to my taste. Adding a personality is what makes all this work. But can get alone without it if feel like it. I will not service an ugly girl, no matter what. After all I have to many choices here to pick an ugly one. Now I am sure most don't give a shit abut what I like so lets move on.
Rainbow was visited by me last January. Personally I didn't see anything that outstanding. Maybe to late at night. Mostly it was like any other decent bar with decent girls. But will say it was crowded with girls and guys. Went to Bacarra and was much better talent in my opinion. Other places in Nana had just as good talent. So it seems it depends on the night and time you arrive.
Sygy, nice to read your coments. Maybe see you in the future in BKK, where we met before.
Around labor day I had the following experience through CL.
I reacted on a CL post around 2 PM and quickly the girl answered on my question what do you expect: I need to get licked, fucked and I want to stay overnight.
My reply was what do you expect because after many emails you mostly get how much THB she wants.
So I replied like: you want to meet me in my apartment, want to get licked / sucked and banged and you want to stay overnight and sleep at my place and no money requested?
She quickly replied with a picture from her titties with nice nipples and belly.
I requested a full body and face picture which she forwarded also immediately.
Women end 30 years, no kids, never married and live outside of Bangkok.
She requested my picture to and replied (around 3:30 PM) that she would leave her job around 4 PM and would drive to Bangkok with an estimated arrival time of 7 PM (she lived somewhere east of Suvarnabhumi airport).
I replied that I would like to meet with her but probably wanted to sleep alone (I needed to have an escape in case of).
But if she couldn't stay with me for the night I would give her sufficient money for a hotel. She replied that she had holiday and did not want to go to a short time hotel. My reply was we will meet first in Terminal 21 and have dinner, afterwards we can go to my apartment. If I would felt that she couldn't stay she could go to another normal hotel and take a room for one night in which she agreed.
I was not sure about this (2, 5 hrs drive, free sex in return for a free overnight) and I did not expect that she would come down.
Around 6:45 PM my phone was ringing and she asked where are you, I drive already in your Soi.
I directed her to Terminal 21 and said that I would be there in 15 minutes (needed to change quickly my clothes and fresh up a little).
When I walked into T21 again a ring from her again. She was in the garage on a certain level. I walked to that floor and guided her to a certain shop.
To my surprise I found a nicely dressed women with short pants and nice shirt. We greeted and we searched for a restaurant not to bussy. We had a nice meal and a lot of chit chat over and over. Found out that she worked in the Finance department of a factory (150 km from BKK) and that she needed to meet someone for another job tomorrow in Bangkok. She drove in a brand new Honda car and she said she didn't want to spend a huge amount for a Hotel. That was her reason to look for some company. She lived alone and wanted to meet someone.
I was not totally convinced and as it was before 8 PM I invited her for a movie first which she with a surprised smile accepted. Forgot the name of the movie but quickly she was laying in my arm and this gave me the possibility to felt her pussy lipps and but, she was quickly wet and gave me a lot of (tongue) kisses. I could felt her small titties too and it gave her the opportunity to feel my dick. She said several times so big, I like.
At around 10:15 we are back in the apartment after parking her car in the apartment garage (free for her including the security watch) and within minutes we stripped each others clothes and we took a long shower together. She was around 5ft5 (I am 5ft7) and this gave me the opportunity to clean her in all parts. Her weigth was around 50 kilo, B-size breast and a nice cute bump. When I tried to put my finger into her bump she politely refused, something that she mentioned before in the emails. She gave me a blow job under the shower and I returned the favor. After drying each other we continued on the bed. After playing with her for around 30 minutes in which time she came at least one time I smelled a certain odor and this was the turn down for me. After we fucked I requested another shower and back on the bed again the strong odor was there again. That did decide me not to lick her pussy again. Around 12:30 she felt asleep and when it was clear to me after some time that she really slept I turned down the lights, put a boxer short on also did a try to go to sleep (early).
Next morning around 7:30 she wake me up and wanted me to fuck her, she was so horny and I had a really big one. She came on top and after some minutes again a strong odor (and that's turns me down).
On me request we had a shower (separated) but the strong smell was there still around. She wanted me to fuck again but I mentioned something like tired and not for me in the early morning so she gave me a long blow job which ended in her mouth.
She took everything and it was clear to her that I didn't want to fuck and kiss. We stayed / lay together for another 30 minutes and she mentioned that she had to leave quickly because her appointment was around 9:30. I replied that I also had some appointments (which was a lie) and 15 minutes later she came out of the bathroom with others clothes (which she had in her purse) , she gave me a kiss, I thanked her for her company and left walked with her to the elevator (to push the garage bottom for her, which was card controlled).
A nice Craigslist experience and beside the food and movie totally free.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1425888]I don't write much here as not in BKK. But when there I try to add a little something. I seem to agree with Sygyies style of lady. Don't like the thick ones either. Pretty face in my opinion is the first criteria. Followed by body (usually thin and good legs ). Don't like big tits as just doesn't appeal to my taste. Adding a personality is what makes all this work. But can get alone without it if feel like it. I will not service an ugly girl, no matter what. After all I have to many choices here to pick an ugly one. Now I am sure most don't give a shit abut what I like so lets move on.
Rainbow was visited by me last January. Personally I didn't see anything that outstanding. Maybe to late at night. Mostly it was like any other decent bar with decent girls. But will say it was crowded with girls and guys. Went to Bacarra and was much better talent in my opinion. Other places in Nana had just as good talent. So it seems it depends on the night and time you arrive.
Sygy, nice to read your coments. Maybe see you in the future in BKK, where we met before.[/QUOTE]Believe me I'm not fucking porkers. I just hunt for the best natural titties in the world. Just have loved them since I was 15. I don't know why. You can't do much with them but they give me a hard on like no other.
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1425451]If any of you more resident guys meet her (Suzis, No 7) then say the old man Tony will always remember her. I meant to ask her for a personal phone number (in case she moves on from Suzi's before I can return) but with all the traumas of the stomach problems it went out of my head.
Gali[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1425589]I would be grateful, kind Sir. Last week she was off on Thursday. But I guess that is very variable (depending on the cash inflow from customers I suspect). I appreciate she may not wish to disclose a number. That is of course her right.
Gali[/QUOTE]I was at SW yesterday and I asked for #7 for you but unfortunately she had take a day off even this Thursday. I will be back in the near future and will try to help you get her number. Strange because I started to ask the waitress for Bee, but she said nobody with that name in SW, but I forgot to ask her what name she has for #7.
BTW. I went to see Boooo, but she had also taken a day off so I had my chance to pick my second choice, Fon, the best dancer at SW in my POW. Cute little spinner, I think she doesn't even weigts 45 kg. She looks terribly young and when I asked Booo about her age in the beginning of the week she said like 24-25. When we arrived at my hotel she went straight up to the reception to show her I'd, for a moment I thought. What if she is too young? Then when I ask her it shows she will be 31 next Monday. Thai women are amazing. Took her LT and it was really LT, I guess we left SW around 11pm yday and she went back home at 2pm today.
BTW 2, Syzyges, you mentioned Love Scene in a post a while back, Fon took me there yesterday on the way to my hotel and what a wonderful restaurant! Amazing food, we had jam wunsen and Oysters, and my god these oysters with nam prik and garlic and some other stuff on was fantastic!
Its no alcohol day until 24:00 tonight. And all I wanted was a steak and a draft. So I had to drink that black american something (red and white can).
PB
[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1426119]Its no alcohol day until 24:00 tonight. And all I wanted was a steak and a draft. So I had to drink that black american something (red and white can).
PB[/QUOTE]This Buddha's birthday doesn't stop to amaze me. In Hong Kong it is a week ahead of Thailand (They had to abandon the queen's birthday after the handover but didn't want to give up a public holiday) , in India it is a day after Thailand (geographically it should be an hour and a half earlier) , and at a spread of 500, they even believe to know the year.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1426152]This Buddha's birthday doesn't stop to amaze me. In Hong Kong it is a week ahead of Thailand (They had to abandon the queen's birthday after the handover but didn't want to give up a public holiday) , in India it is a day after Thailand (geographically it should be an hour and a half earlier) , and at a spread of 500, they even believe to know the year.[/QUOTE]If you're after beer plenty of bars on Soi 4 open. Heading back there now. Hit a club soon after midnight!
I have a pregnancy fetish. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be found? Bar, street worker, red light area?
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1426152]This Buddha's birthday doesn't stop to amaze me. In Hong Kong it is a week ahead of Thailand (They had to abandon the queen's birthday after the handover but didn't want to give up a public holiday) , in India it is a day after Thailand (geographically it should be an hour and a half earlier) , and at a spread of 500, they even believe to know the year.[/QUOTE]The day name is the name of a Lunar month. Its only in 1950 (I read) where they decided to use it to celebrate the birth of the Buddha, so its very clear that it is just a chosen day to make the celebration.
Just the same as 25th December is chosen by Christians. Now Easter is celebrated on vastly different dates each year according to the moon. Does that make any real sense?
Who cares? Wisakha Bucha is just a day for a religious holiday. Not very amazing at all. I spell with an English W (not a German one) as Thai language has no letter / sound equivalent to English V and they can't pronounce it. Just like Sukhumvit road should be pronounced Sukhumwit (and "u" is as in input).
Look at Germany (Frankfurt).4 different separate public holidays in May this year. Does that make a lot of sense? Why not spread them out accross the year better? Okay We just accept the way it is.
Personally I would rather have no public holidays in the year. Its just a nuisance day when I am told I cannot work, whether its convenient to me or not.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1426107]BTW. I went to see Boooo, but she had also taken a day off so I had my chance to pick my second choice, Fon, the best dancer at SW in my POW. Cute little spinner, I think she doesn't even weigts 45 kg. She looks terribly young and when I asked Booo about her age in the beginning of the week she said like 24-25. When we arrived at my hotel she went straight up to the reception to show her I'd, for a moment I thought. What if she is too young? Then when I ask her it shows she will be 31 next Monday. Thai women are amazing. Took her LT and it was really LT, I guess we left SW around 11pm yday and she went back home at 2pm today.[/QUOTE]I have known Bo / Bow for 5 to 6 years. She doesn't look a day older I guess, but is one of the older girls (not oldest). The experience makes for a great BBBJ.
Picking a great dancer increases chances of getting someone who moves well on the bed. The lazy girls are a bit more risky.
In my early days at Suzi Wong I often chose the sexiest dancers. Jaa was one such super dancer in years gone by. She quit to work in a Restaurant and also Karaoke but she was much better dancer than a singer.
To answer your question, it is not the knee caps. But it is the knocked kneed and pigeon toed that sets them off from the others. You can't believe the friction when their legs are wrapped around you. You will screem for joy
[QUOTE=Dewdrops;1426181]I have a pregnancy fetish. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be found? Bar, street worker, red light area?[/QUOTE]Hospital? I mean, P4P is huge in BKK but his can you expect there is an area where there are some preg girls as WG's? Not only in BKK, in any town of the world!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1425906]Eye doctor check up in about 1. 5 weeks and I'm free to get back to my Rainbows, darn it, I miss it so much! Last night I found $1085 rt from USA. Didn't book it as I didn't know if my dentist wanted to do further work on me.[/QUOTE]Are you crazy? Get all your dentistry done in Bangkok. You can get very professional dentists from USA universities. For serious dental work the savings could pay for your flight. I don't have an eye doctor, I just buy generic specs for for long-sightedness. Fortunately both eyes are about the same and I can see how pretty girls are from a fair distance unless lighting is poor.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1426005]Believe me. I am picky too. Many of night turning down girls for 5-6 hours before I go home with one but the moment you start talking about 'between the thigh gap' you mine as well be sucking a dick. What's next, perfect kneecaps?[/QUOTE]Homosexual comments are generally not appreciated in this forum. In fact its a banned subject.
[QUOTE=Dewdrops;1426181]I have a pregnancy fetish. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be found? Bar, street worker, red light area?[/QUOTE]There is a lactating one at dr BJ. Go to her she might have a pregnant friend or two from her local hospital
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1425960]don't click to enlarge the photos guys. Its not a pretty sight. LOL.
I s she a janitor in the finance dept?[/QUOTE]You posted 4 screens of a quote just to add a snarky comment. Please consider editing the quotes. If some one wants to read the whole quote they can click [View Original Post]. Some people read the forums on smart phones and tablets and scrolling through a long quote is a pain. And how can you see what she looks like, no clear shot of her face. Your rep for trolling precedes you.
Slim
I was first customer inside at Suzie Wong today. The reason is, if you want to go with Noo Dee, its "the quick or the dead". She got up to dance first time. I ogle a little but its too early for girls to have got their gear off yet. Another guy walks in. Quickly the mamasan is motioning me to call Noo Dee over for a drink. She knows the score. As a couple more guys are showing up, I have to bar fine her promptly. She sits on my lap, crotch direct on one leg and at 41 Kg. She feels like a snow flake. Its not that she is the best performer going around, but that she has a very winning very pretty smile and a very toned tight body with firm high A cups and stunning ass. Tanned skin colour, certainly not one of the white skinned ones.
Other girls can only ponder how come this girl gets so many customers? In a few months she will be gone forever. She has a guy (or 2) willing to take her away from it all already. Some days. 3 or 4 guys can show up at the same time for her, and then she doesn't know what to do. I would quite like to take her as a site seeing guide for a trip to Siem Riep and Angor what. She speaks the Siem Riep dialect of Khmer fluently.
I ask the waitress Yao about No. 7 Bee. She is very puzzled as clearly Bee is not my type. I always llike the Gazelles with hot asses and inner thigh gap. I explain that I was going to try to get a phone number for Tony. She asks if Tony is balding. This is difficult, as unfortunately I don't even know what Tony looks like other than being more ancient than me even. I am ready to go and perhaps Bee has not even arrived at work yet. Did not spot No. 7. Bo and Dtom would probably show up in an hour, but Noo Dee starts early.
Have a nice short time session with Noo Dee at Asoke Place ST Hotel (350 Baht). She likes an extended DATY a lot. I return her to SW around 9PM or so, in time to do a show and soon collect her next customer. She did not rush the session though in any way. She is a somewhat reserved girl of good character.
Next time, for contrast I might take the wild lewd one, Ma, who is a damn good screw on the bed, but cannot compete with Noo Dee in looks or niceness. I like the variety of really different styles of girls, each enjoyable in their own ways. However I am always a sucker for a pretty face. My big weakness.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1424025]FL from clubs BKK LT play. I stick 3K to them when they leave (A+)
FL from Biergarden BKK ST play. 1-2K depends on performance (A+)
Spasso BKK LT play. I stick 5K to them when they leave (A+)
[u]FL Beachroad Pattaya VST (Very Short Time).1K[/u] Pipeline pressure release only A+)
FL from clubs Pattaya LT play. I stick 2-3K to them when they leave (A+)
LT ranges from approx 8. 12hrs.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Scorchin; 1424250]Clear indications of the market prices.
No doubt the cheap Charlies will object but those are prices I used last November.[/QUOTE]I don't object, and I know only about the one category (which I have underlined for the reader's convenience) , but in that category he's paying [i]double[/i] The 'going rate'. Perhaps the other categories are double-'stick it to them' as well.
Visited Mixx in basement of Intercontinental around 11 pm, dead. I didn't want to spend three or four hours finding a girl, so I moved to CM2 in basement of Novotel, also dead. But around 11:30 or so girls began to pour in. Soon there were 50 girls or more. Almost immediately one recognized me (from almost one year ago, I had a hard time remembering her!). Short Thai, great smile, ass = 10, name is Nauch. As former aquantences we spent one drink hugging and kissing, it was fun and I was glad I would not spend the next hour or more choosing someone, I had been chosen!
Bit of a bummer negotiating the price, and during this process I began to remember Nauch, she demanded THB 4K, I countered with 2. I finally agreed to 3. 5 K and even then she started playing for a tip on top of the 3 K. I had emotionally committed to going forward with her for this night but made a "note to self. Never again".
In my room she quickly stripped, pulled me into the shower and the fun started. Like most WG's she is totally uninhibited about her body, but she is more free than most. I had my hands on her nice tits the entire time, in the shower, drinking water, full thrust, whatever, and she was good with that, even repositioning herself to help me. And what an ass!
After a good bit of foreplay she asked me to kiss her pussy, I was happy to oblige, and this really got her rocking. Following that, FS in every position you can imagine, and after about 1 hour I rolled off and dozed for about 2 hours. Woke up, she was asleep, I slide down for more DATY, she was soon rocking once again and we repeated round 1. Now it's about 3 am.
I did not fully clarify the time she needed to spend with me. Following the second session she jumped out of bed and was in the shower before I stopped breathing hard. As she threw on her chlothes she explained that since I just finished round two she is free to go. OK. I did not really agree with that but at the same time I needed to sleep a few hours and catch a plane. So off she went.
Great sex and a nice lady, but I will not return. Too expensive and she rushed out at the end. I expect more.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1425906]Ugly girls give good service! And cheaper too. So I hear.
Its uncanny how ugly girls don't get barfined- whats up with that? Its just not fair
Eye doctor check up in about 1. 5 weeks and I'm free to get back to my Rainbows, darn it, I miss it so much! Last night I found $1085 rt from USA. Didn't book it as I didn't know if my dentist wanted to do further work on me.[/QUOTE]
good price, i couldn't find anything like that for RT back to the USA! really disappointed EVA Air doesn't offer open dates for the return flight back anymore
[QUOTE=Opebo;1426637]I don't object, and I know only about the one category (which I have underlined for the reader's convenience) , but in that category he's paying [i]double[/i] The 'going rate'. Perhaps the other categories are double-'stick it to them' as well.[/QUOTE]I don't find the beach road rate excessive, but the Spasso 5K is insane. Like ordering an Outback Steak and paying thrice the price at a different restaurant only because of the location and maybe a few nicer light bulbs LOL.
Then again, this is a guy who treats money like toilet paper and has hiso girls picking him up at Swampy in their Bentleys. LOL
[QUOTE=Opebo;1426637]I don't object, and I know only about the one category (which I have underlined for the reader's convenience) , but in that category he's paying [i]double[/i] The 'going rate'. Perhaps the other categories are double-'stick it to them' as well.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Opebo. Last night, as usual, I gave a girl from Lucifer Disco in Pattaya 1000, instead of the 2000-3000 that the poster says he gives. She stayed from 3am until 11am (which meant she was late for her regular job at 10am.)
Once I called myself being generous and gave a girl 1500 the next morning. My dad jumped in my shit. He had her friend in his room and my girl called and told her that I had given her 1500, so the friend asked the same from my dad. He declined and gave her the normal 1000.
On Beach Road 400 ST is my price.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1425960]don't click to enlarge the photos guys. Its not a pretty sight. LOL. I s she a janitor in the finance dept?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Harold444;1426591]People criticizing how a guy posts is one reason so few post here.[/QUOTE]So by your own admission, you should stop being a critic. Or is this a "do as I say and not as I do" thing?
[QUOTE=BushWhack; 1426671]I did not fully clarify the time she needed to spend with me. Following the second session she jumped out of bed and was in the shower before I stopped breathing hard. As she threw on her chlothes she explained that since I just finished round two she is free to go. OK. I did not really agree with that but at the same time I needed to sleep a few hours and catch a plane. So off she went.
Great sex and a nice lady, but I will not return. Too expensive and she rushed out at the end. I expect more.[/QUOTE]I reckon you did pretty well. I don't want to argue over exactly how much she was worth, but you got two rounds and she probably thought that was pretty fair for a girl of good standard of body and performance. You not not shopping at a place where you expect bargain basement either I think.
And seems you had not explained that you need a round at 8AM too, at the start.
In my experience, when you want long time, its always wise to check what time the girl is willing to stay till.
So to my reading of it, she seems reccomended!
looking for a daytime nut and head out for a 2 hour walk to nana. have to keep that heart strong for a my fuck-a-thon's.
love walking around thailand and do what i do, bust a grub and terrorize the women.
near benjasiri park i see some stacked honey at a fruit stand. 100% woman but a brace face. you bet your candy ass i went and talked to her. she is working at a bar under the holiday inn next to boots that won't even open for another month and shows me the inside. it's an open storefront where people look in but i still manage to get a little joob joob and grab tit before getting her number and leaving. she says her boss is coming soon idk.
i bang a left at s22 to see what's cooking and if i can spot that girl i pulled at the park other day, spent 24 hours with, and came on 3 times. she worshipped me but never answered my calls. don't see her or anything else. attempted to talk to another hot girl walking on the street and she didn't even look up at me lol.
head over to nana by way of s8. see nothing. whip by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. nothing, of course. contrary to what i say before i actually do really like the model spinner types but i never, ever, ever turn down a nice pair of titties. some giant boulder holder, bazookas drag me in a massage parlor. walking up i see a little bit of love handles and think i fucked up here but when i got that shirt off later i surely did not. it is very unlike me to pay what i paid but i overpaid and paid 500 to see what all this oily talk was about, never had one and imo an oil massage is fucking retarded. i'm there now with a giant pair of titties in my face and mine as well get a blowjob and am super cheap charlie negotiating 2000 to 600 while kissing, sucking, and fingering. followed by a blowjob and finish with a titty fuck which was 1 of my very finest pieces of work. came on her tits, maneuvered my dick into her mouth and came in their, took it out her mouth and came all over her face, lips, and dripping down her chin. everywhere but the ceiling. with my load spread all over her face, fingered her and sucked where my cum didn't go for a good 7 minutes thereafter. actually was fun but massage parlors are not my style. 1100 ain't a lot a but i can really make it go a whole lot further then that.
walk on the way home and what do you know bumped into my s22 girl i fucked for free the other day. she convincingly tells me she lost her phone. i bring her home and fuck her and she kind of would like a little cheddar this time. now she wouldn't get crazy if i just kicked her ass out but i gave her my piece of shit 450 tesco phone i don't want and we call it a day. i find out her bar charges a 500 bar fine and am taken back by how cheap she is. some old guy is bringing her to pattaya for 3 days with only 1000 / day going to her. her body is tight too. no love for the darkies in thailand. that old dude is making out great imo.
now nighttime and have a bunch of hot girls i could go out with but exhausted. sleep schedule is fucked.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1426594]I ask the waitress Yao about No. 7 Bee. She is very puzzled as clearly Bee is not my type. I always llike the Gazelles with hot asses and inner thigh gap. I explain that I was going to try to get a phone number for Tony. She asks if Tony is balding. This is difficult, as unfortunately I don't even know what Tony looks like other than being more ancient than me even.[/QUOTE]Tony is definitely balding / silver hair (sound better than grey) and has a close cropped beard. Generally carried a small shoulder bag (water, umbrella and a couple of prezzies for girls should the situation arise)
Gali
after two years exploring the pay-for-play scenes in philippines and indonesia, it was time to return to thailand. i had three weeks at my disposal and as well as visiting bangkok and pattaya, i planned to sample the delights of phnom penh in cambodia too. to give you some context, i'm a 36 year old man from england and bar-girls say i'm 'hansum' (and they would never lie about such a thing). although i enjoy massage parlours and gogo bars my motto is 'variety is the spice of life' and i have picked up girls from brothels, nightclubs and even from the street.
welcome to the diary of trip thailand and cambodia.
the flight from england was long but i occupied myself by watching skyfall and perving at the pretty air stewardesses. there was a tall blond who i'd happily allow to be mrs lancelot if she liked. actually forget that. free, single and on the way to thailand. isn't that every man's dream? i felt excited as the plane began its descent in to bangkok.
this was my first trip to thailand for three years, after successfully experimenting with philippines and indonesia. would i meet girls of the quality of my previous trips to thailand? would it still live up to my high expectations? i felt a shiver of anticipation as we touched down at suvarnabhumi airport.
the best way to get in to bangkok from the airport is by train. taxis aren't just more expensive, they get stuck in heavy traffic when nearing the city, adding time to the journey. from arrivals i descended to the lower level where there are two lines to choose from, makkasam or phaya thai. i paid 90 baht for the latter and after a short wait hopped on to the train. the journey took 20 minutes and soon i was in the chaotic urban sprawl of central bangkok, dwarfed by skyscrapers. from phaya thai i took the skytrain to nana which was five stops on the bearing line (25 baht). i was impressed with the train service. the journey from the airport was cheap, quick and easy.
there are plenty of hotels to choose from but for familiarity i opted for nana hotel. from nana's skytrain station i walked a short distance down the busy sukhumvit road before turning left in to soi 4. nana hotel is the first hotel on the right, directly opposite the gogo complex of nana plaza. it's a good place to stay as not only does it have an excellent location but freelance hookers congregate in the car-park and there is also a nightclub on the premises, popular with gogo girls when their shift has finished. there is also a swimming pool and a buffet breakfast.
the receptionist was an elderly woman who i remembered from three years earlier. she didn't smile then and she didn't smile now, not the best advert for the land of smiles! my 'standard room' cost 1490 baht a night and was perfectly adequate, the queen-sized bed making up for the lack of view from the window. the young bell-boy enquired 'you wan massage sir? ' before he left. i thanked him but said no. bangkok is not a city where you need help finding girls.
it was mid-afternoon so i decided to sleep for a few hours to fight off jet-lag. i wanted to be refreshed for my eagerly awaited return to nana plaza, one of my favourite hunting grounds in asia. i've taken some beautiful girls from there in the past and hoped for a 10/10 to get this trip up-and-running in style.
when my alarm beeped i felt more tired than when i fell asleep. i had a shower to wake myself up, got changed and walked to the nearby 7eleven to buy myself water. it was 6. 20pm and the area was much quieter than i remembered. a few men sat in the bars lining soi 4 but it wasn't buzzing with activity and there wasn't the usual exciting atmosphere. even the traffic was quieter. i assumed that i had reset my watch wrongly so i asked for the time at the 7eleven. it was 6. 25pm. why was nana so quiet?
i walked in to nana plaza to have a look around. nana plaza is three storeys of gogo bars, the balconies of each floor overlooking a central court of beer bars. the place has been given a big makeover. not only is there a new sign above the entrance but the walls have been given a much needed lick of paint (the yellow colour scheme makes you wonder whether it should be renamed 'banana plaza'). as a result it doesn't feel as down-trodden and sleazy as it used to. it reminded me of the polished gogo complexes in philippines, like edsa in manila.
the bars open at 7pm and usually by this time lots of girls have arrived and the place is coming alive, but there wasn't anyone around at all. i only had a scrawny stray cat for company. 'what's going on? ' i thought to myself. it was 6. 30pm and one of the most exciting adult playgrounds in the world was completely empty.
as i walked out of nana plaza, a ladyboy with breasts like bowling balls grabbed my arm and said hello. i laughed to myself. if i couldn't find any girls maybe i'd have no choice but to resort to a ladyboy on my first night in bangkok! where was everyone? i politely shrugged her off and walked to a restaurant nearby called bus stop. it serves western food as well as tasty thai dishes. i ordered fried rice but when i tried to order a beer i was told 'no beer tonight, soft drink only'. no girls and no beer? what on earth was going on?
after i had eaten i returned to nana plaza. it was 7pm and every bar was closed. even big dog, the popular bar at the entrance had its grille pulled down. a burly security guard saw me looking lost and told me 'closed tonight, open tomorrow'. i asked him why and he told me 'elections'. i cursed to myself. my first night in bangkok and the place was like a ghost-town. i don't want elections, i want erections! preferably mine, not ladyboys.
i noticed street-walkers congregating on the opposite side of the street in nana hotel car-park. there were 15 in total, aged between 20 and 30 and a few were reasonably attractive. the pick of them, a girl wearing a leopard-print top, smiled to me. she was a 7/10 and had a nice figure. i returned her smile. she could be a good option for later if all else failed.
i remembered that soi cowboy is in a different district. it's a street of gogo bars that is renowned for being more liberal, so i figured there was a chance it might be open. it took 20 minutes to walk there from nana, zig-zagging my way past the tourists who were shopping at the stalls that line sukhumvit road.
soi cowboy is near asok skytrain station, on a street between soi 21 and 23. i turned in to it but was disappointed to see that there wasn't the usual blaze of neon or screaming 'hello girls' outside each bar. the street was dark and eerily silent. not for the first time tonight i cursed to myself.
i considered my options. thermae coffee shop is nearby which in its heyday was renowned as a place to pick up high quality freelancers. but i'm told it has now changed for the worse and the majority of girls only show interest in big spending korean or japanese customers. i wasn't interested in being ignored so took the skytrain back to nana.
it was unthinkable that i'd spend a night in bangkok without a girl. my plan was to see if annie's massage parlour was open and if not i would take a freelancer from nana car-park. some of them were attractive, especially the cutie in the leopard pattern dress. i wondered whether they would be clever enough to raise their prices to take advantage of the fact that the gogo bars were closed. these girls can be very shrewd so i suspected that the answer would be yes!
annie's is located a short walk from nana plaza. i walked down soi 4 away from sukhumvit road and turned right after the 7eleven. ominously the annie's sign at the top of the road was switched off, so i didn't have high expectations as i walked past rajah hotel. but i was surprised and relieved to see three girls sat outside. annie's was open.
i walked up the stairs and entered the small bar area. the fishbowl is located at the end of the room and the girls were lounging around, checking their phones or applying make-up in small mirrors. i was shown to a couch in front of the window and when the mamasan spoke in to a microphone, the girls arranged themselves in an orderly fashion on the steps on the left hand side of the fishbowl. there were 20 girls and all were young and slim. the mamasan said something in to the microphone and all of the girls on the front row stood up. a few seconds later they sat down and the back row stood up. it was a good way to show off their bodies and i saw a few girls i liked the look of.
i like to take my time choosing so i ordered a drink. as i did so, the only other customer (a man about my age and also from england) picked a very pretty girl i had noticed. she walked out of the fishbowl and led him hand-in-hand down the corridor towards their room. he was definitely in for a treat. two minutes later she returned to pick up her basket of products (soap, sponge, mouthwash, condoms). as she was waiting for it to be prepared, she gave me a lap-dance. she had a sexy body, a beautiful face and a sparkle in her eyes. when she was handed her basket, she stood up and kissed me on the cheek before walking away to join the lucky fellow brit. i wished i had picked her.
i examined the fishbowl again. there were some nice girls and the one who caught my eye was straightening her hair in the mirror. she was attractive and had long hair down to her waist. she saw me looking and smiled (the left-hand window is one-way glass but the girls can see through the right window). i waved for her to join me and she walked over. i was immediately pleased with my choice. she had a fun and flirty personality and hugged me as i paid the cashier. she told me that her name was aor and she was 23 years old from isaan.
five years ago annie's was a budget option but it has changed in to a 'soapy' venue with younger girls. as a result, the prices have gone up. it costs 2500 baht to take a girl for two hours, although for that price you get two pops and the levels of service are legendary. if you can't get great sex at annie's, you can't get it anywhere.
she led me down the corridor to the left of the fishbowl. the room had a sleazy feel with the bed overlooked by a grotesque wooden carving of two girls 69-ing each other. next to the bath was an inflatable mattress, a sign that soapies are now on the menu at annie's. aor tied her hair up and ran the bath before leaving to get her basket. i took my clothes off and sat on the corner of the bed. i felt excited that my trip was about to start with a great girl.
when aor returned she poured soap suds over the inflatable mattress and asked me to lie on it. i lay on my stomach and she poured suds over my back before using her slim body to slip and slide all over me. it felt magical and the perfect way to relax after a long day of travel. she asked me to turn over and said 'you handsome man' before sliding up and down again. before long we were kissing. kissing is a big turn-on of mine and she was a great kisser, expertly using her tongue. she then slid down my body and gave me a fantastic blow-job. this girl knew how to please. after five minutes we got in to the bubble-bath and she rubbed her firm tits on my chest and grinded her pussy over my stiff cock as we kissed passionately. by now i was aching to get in her pussy. we dried ourselves and got on to the bed together.
the sex was great. she untied her hair and it fell down her perfectly toned body as she rode me expertly. i flipped her over and fucked her slowly in mish, her fingernails digging in to my back each time i thrust in to her. all the time we were kissing like boyfriend and girlfriend. next she went on to all-fours and i fucked her from behind.
we tried lots of positions before i came. i collapsed next to her on the bed and she said 'you tired? you take long time'. i laughed. i was having so much fun i wanted to make it last as long as possible!
she spoke good english and was very playful. she asked 'you have baby? ' and when i shook my head she joked 'maybe we have baby? '. at one point she sang to me. i'm no simon cowell but she'the definitely get my vote. she started stroking me and soon i was ready for 'round two'. this time i wanted to give her oral, so i kissed my way down her body and when i started licking her pussy she held my head in position and gasped each time i sucked her clit. it was a nice view, looking up at her perfect body writhing about. after 20 minutes i couldn't wait any longer, so put on another condom. the second pop was just as passionate and energetic as the first.
after we got changed we swapped phone numbers. although i like to go with as many girls as possible, it's always good to have the numbers of my favourites stored in my phone. she was a lovely girl and provided great sex, so would be a good option for a daytime meet (for a lot less than 2500 baht). i gave her a well deserved tip and kissed her goodbye.
annie's is open from 10am to midnight. they employ two shifts of girls and a good time to visit is between 5pm and 6pm when the shifts overlap. however, this is also when it is busiest with customers.
on the way back to my hotel, i passed the freelancers in the car-park. an old man with white hair was attempting to negotiate with a girl probably in her late teens. he was trying to get her price down but wasn't having much success. this wasn't a night for negotiation. with the gogo bars closed she had nowhere near as much competition as normal. for one night only she was the prettiest girl on the block and she knew it.
i went to bed happy. despite a disastrous start to the night with the closure of nana plaza and soi cowboy, i had a soapy massage and some great sex. annie's and aor had rescued my night. my trip had started well.
this diary will continue in the bangkok thread tomorrow.
ps. apologies for posting this twice. i accidentally posted it in the wrong thread earlier.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1426766]good price, i couldn't find anything like that for RT back to the USA! really disappointed EVA Air doesn't offer open dates for the return flight back anymore[/QUOTE]I recommend Skyscanner. Com, if you enter the origin / destination info and click on "Whole Year" on the calendar you can find some pretty good deals. Checking right now on some random dates in August I see SFO-BKK for $941, saw some crazy low fares for less than $800 (as I recall $791) about 7 or 8 months ago so if you are flexible with your travel dates it is a good idea to check the site often and grab the deals when they come up.
[url]http://www.skyscanner.com/flights/sfo/bkk/130821/130925/airfares-from-san-francisco-international-to-bangkok-suvarnabhumi-in-august-2013-and-september-2013.html[/url]
I waited too long to purchase my ticket and missed the super cheap fare, paid $930 for my trip SFO to BKK this month. I purchased ticket directly from China Airlines site around 6 months ago and at the time received a $30 discount for using Paypal. Checking some random dates in November I see SFO. BKK RT for $959 all in, might be lower if you search different dates on their site.
[url]https://calec.china-airlines.com/olb/us/asp/calendar.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1426594]Next time, for contrast I might take the wild lewd one, Ma, who is a damn good screw on the bed, but cannot compete with Noo Dee in looks or niceness. I like the variety of really different styles of girls, each enjoyable in their own ways. However I am always a sucker for a pretty face. My big weakness.[/QUOTE]When you mention Ma. I could be wrong, but its a bell ringing when I hear that name. Can you describe her briefly?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1426591]Some people take this place way to serious.
I think if a guy post a photo of a 300 baht girl, we should be able to point it out, LOL.
People criticizing how a guy posts is one reason so few post here.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's true. Good thing that you don't do that though. LOL
Thanks for the great TR! Enjoyed reading it. She looks very pretty.
Is there a gym in the Nana area near Nana hotel. If so what are the rates.
Thanks,
Chris
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1427109]When you mention Ma. I could be wrong, but its a bell ringing when I hear that name. Can you describe her briefly?[/QUOTE]I described in detail in a previous ppost.
I can't believe that the spelling corrector did not fix "ppost" and change it to post, where it alters other words that I did not want to be altered. The auto speller is just plain stupid!
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1426959]Five years ago Annie's was a budget option but it has changed in to a 'soapy' venue with younger girls. As a result, the prices have gone up. It costs 2500 baht to take a girl for two hours, although for that price you get two pops and the levels of service are legendary. If you can't get great sex at Annie's, you can't get it anywhere.
When Aor returned she poured soap suds over the inflatable mattress and asked me to lie on it. <cut>
The sex was great.
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She spoke good English and was very playful. She asked 'you have baby? ' and when I shook my head she joked 'maybe we have baby? '. At one point she sang to me. I'm no Simon Cowell but she'the definitely get my vote.[/QUOTE]Yes Aor (#24) is very keen on music, singing, discos etc.
I slept well and took advantage of Nana Hotels breakfast buffet. There were lots of elderly gents with their younger Thai companion.
Today I wanted to visit NATAREE, a massage parlour I visited three years ago and had been shocked at the sheer quantity and quality of girls. In all of my visits to Asia, I have never seen so many pretty girls in the same place. Finally today was the day that I'd be returning. Would it live up to my high expectations?
To get to Nataree I recommend using public transport. If you take a taxi you will pay an inflated price due to taxi commission. A way around this would be to take a taxi to Emerald Hotel and walk the short distance to Nataree after the taxi has left. However public transport is easy in Bangkok and you see lots of cute girls to get you in the mood.
From Nana I took the Skytrain to Asok (15 baht, one stop) and walked down the steps to Sukhumvit MTS underground station. From here it costs 22 baht to get to Huay Kwang, the 4th stop on the Bang Sue line. The train was crowded but it was only a 10 minute journey. From Huay Kwang station I took exit 3, signposted Emerald Hotel. When I stepped out of the station I saw the huge sign for Emanuelle which strangely has a blond Western girl smiling down from it. Emanuelle is another massage parlour but online reports suggest that there aren't many girls. Nataree is located on the next block along. There are two entrances and the one to take is closest to the train station.
I entered at 4. 30pm and it was very busy. In the lounge area there were probably 50 girls, each available for 2600 baht. A sparsely populated fishbowl contained eight older girls, available for the cheaper price of 2000 baht. A papasan led me around the room and introduced me to the girls. All were young and there were many pretty faces and sweet smiles. I felt like a kid in a candy shop. The papasan was an elderly Thai man and a master of stating the obvious. He would stroke the legs of the girls or squeeze their tits, telling me information like 'this girl tall' or 'this girl new, she have big boobs'. I think I'd probably get sacked for behaving like that at work!
Although you are encouraged to make a quick decision, I wanted to take my time. I sat down at a free table and ordered a drink. The problem is that lots of girls sit facing away from the tables, so it's not the best viewpoint. It would make more sense if every girl sat in the fishbowl but I suppose part of Nataree's charm is that you get introduced to the girls and can see them up close. Put them in a fishbowl and it's just another massage parlour.
Two things struck me. Firstly there were lots of customers, many more than my previous visit. There were about 20, the majority of whom were middle-aged Japanese men. As a result the girls were getting picked quickly. No sooner had one group of men gone upstairs with their choice of girls, more customers arrived. Nataree is a popular place.
The second thing I noticed was that the quality of girls wasn't as high as my previous visit. Maybe I had built it up too much in my head or perhaps the best lookers were already with customers. That said, there were still lots of pretty girls and I saw half a dozen I considered picking. Sat nearby was a lovely girl in a lime green dress. She had an air of sophistication with short hair and high cheekbones but she was soon picked by a Japanese man. Another girl interested me. She was fair-haired with a curvy figure and she had smiled warmly when we had been introduced. As I was imagining getting my hands on those big boobs of hers, a small middle-aged Korean man walked up to her and asked her to stand up. Koreans pick girls in a cold, businesslike manner. He looked her up and down like a military inspection and decided that he liked what he saw and picked her.
I wasn't in a rush because these places can be like merry-go-rounds. Girls arrive as quickly as they are escorted away so if you bide your time, you can get lucky.
Three young girls with blond hair came in and sat on the seats facing the fishbowl. Within 10 seconds one was picked by a Japanese man and two minutes later her friend was selected too. I don't know why more girls don't dye their hair blond as Japanese and Korean customers can't resist! The third of the blond girls was extremely cute and kept looking over her shoulder and smiling to me. I felt that tingle of anticipation when I know I've spotted my girl.
A group of Japanese men entered. I knew for sure that one of them would pick her unless I acted quickly so I stood up and quickly walked towards her, almost breaking out in to a run. I arrived just seconds before the papasan was about to introduce her to the Japs. I offered her my hand and she giggled as we walked to the counter together. She looked extremely innocent up close and as an added bonus had a promisingly large pair of tits fighting to get out of the tight top she was wearing. I paid 2600 baht at the cashier desk and we took a lift up to the third floor.
The room was tired and the wallpaper was faded. It lacked the luxury feel of other massage parlours. Fortunately I don't go to these places for their interior decor!
Her name was Amy and she was 19 from Chiang Rai. Although she spoke little English, she smiled almost constantly and kept hugging me as we waited for the bath to fill. Three times she held her arm against mine and pointed to my white skin and said 'chocolate' before collapsing in a fit of giggles. I suspect she hadn't been with a white man before!
We undressed and she had a petite figure with firm see-cup breasts. We stepped in to the bath and she carefully soaped and washed my arms, legs and chest. She kept mumbling to herself in Thai and giggling which I found endearing. Sadly Nataree doesn't offer soapy massages but taking a bath with your choice of girl is a good way to break the ice while admiring her naked body. Appropriately for election day, my dick voted 'yes'. When she saw it was hard, it made her giggle for about the 85th time in 15 minutes.
After we dried ourselves I lay on the bed and Amy rubbed her large tits over my chest. It felt great. 'These small' she joked. Because she looked so young I wondered whether she might lack experience but she knew how to please. She placed her tits either side of my dick and, squeezing them together, moved them up and down. It was a great sight seeing such an innocent cutie giving me a tit-wank. She then gave me a surprisingly good blowjob with long, deep sucks. I've never been with a Thai girl who deep-throats but this girl got close.
I couldn't wait to get in to her pussy. She rolled a condom on to my dick and slowly lowered herself on to me. She had a tight pussy but unfortunately had applied too much KY Jelly so it felt a bit sloppy. She rode me in an experienced way, wiggling her hips on mine as I fondled her lovely tits and sucked her nipples. I rolled her on to her back and she said 'slow, not fast' as I fucked her. Sadly she kissed with her mouth closed and her groans were a little too theatrical. When she heard me coming she shouted 'oh yeah! Oh yeah! ' like a prostitute from Amsterdam. Nevertheless it had been an enjoyable session with a 19 year old Thai cutie with big boobs.
I'm a generous tipper but Amy kissed with her mouth closed and disappointingly didn't pose for photos afterwards, so I downgraded her a hundred baht. She was happy though and held my hand as we waited for the lift. We shared it with a white man in his twenties and a pretty girl with curly hair. They stood awkwardly in silence as the lift descended. Amy smiled up to me and squeezed my hand. When the lift reached the bottom floor, the doors opened and there were three more couples waiting to go up. All three men were middle-aged Asians and all three girls were attractive and young.
I like Nataree. It doesn't have the levels of service of Annie's but it's the place to go for young and pretty girls.
I took the underground train back to Sukhumvit. Asok Station is close to SOI COWBOY so I decided to spend the night visiting the gogo bars there. I ate at Bradmans Sports Bar which had good food and friendly staff.
At 8pm I walked on to Soi Cowboy. It's about 200 meters long and is located between Soi 21 and 23. In contrast to the night before, the neon signs shone brightly and young 'hello girls' stood outside each bar, trying to coax customers inside. There was an exciting atmosphere.
I decided to go to BACCARA first. It's described as 'the best bar in Bangkok by a mile' by Stickman, Bangkok's online gogo guru. It was crowded with customers who were almost entirely Asian men.
25 girls were crowded on stage in skimpy white outfits. All were young, slim and half a dozen I'd rate 8/10 or higher. Unfortunately though there was a distinct lack of atmosphere. The girls shuffled on the spot and were more interested in looking at their reflection in the mirror than interacting with customers. There were no smiles and none of the girls paid me, or indeed any other customer, any attention. 76 and 02 were both stunners but, like all of the girls, they looked bored. I wondered whether perhaps it was too early and the girls hadn't warmed up yet. Often bars give girls tequila shots for this very reason.
When a dance shift left the stage the girls walked in procession around the bar to give customers a closer look, just like the Pasha bars in Angeles. I was impressed by how pretty some of them were but they quickly looked away as if the last thing they wanted was to talk to a customer! I didn't take it personally because they were in the same trance-like state with all customers, even the big-spending Japs. How can Baccara be considered the 'best bar in Bangkok' when the girls act like zombies? There were no smiles and no fun. A gogo bar needs more than just pretty girls.
Baccara has two floors and you can see girls dancing above through a glass ceiling. There were 18 girls upstairs and all were topless. I nicknamed this floor 'Silicon Valley' given all of the fake tits on display! Although the girls weren't as pretty as those downstairs, there were still plenty of lookers and, hallelujah, they were smiling and having fun. Instead of the 'two foot shuffle' they danced with lots of energy. Perhaps they were trying to keep warm due to their state of undress? I finished my drink and left. On the way out I noticed a very pretty 'hello girl' wearing a number 280 badge. She had a mesmerising face and an enticing figure so was an option for later.
Soi Cowboy has about 20 bars to choose from, including a ladyboy bar with the amusing name Cockatoo. I decided to go to SHARK. I felt nostalgic when I walked in as it was the first gogo bar I visited on my 'cherry trip' to Thailand. I was shown to a seat along the far wall with a great view of the stage. 13 girls were dancing but I didn't see any to set my pulse racing. Having said that, the girls wore see-through bras and there were some nice bodies on show.
It is always worth hanging around for the second shift of dancers. When the next set of girls got up on stage, I spotted a very pretty girl wearing a number 69 badge. Her cute face was framed by a closely cropped fringe that would have made her look like a Russian femme fatale if she didn't look so innocent. She smiled sweetly to me a couple of times. She was the perfect antidote to all of the pretty zombies I'd seen at Baccara.
I went to take a sip from my coke (no alcohol served tonight either) but missed my mouth with the straw. She found this very funny. She was a sexy mover and dancing next to her was another pretty girl. She was tall and had a conventional Thai beauty with long, straight hair and beautiful golden skin. The girls whispered something to each other and then looked at me and giggled. I don't know what they said but a smile is the biggest aphrodisiac so I gestured for 69 to come and sit next to me. She did a little jig of delight before she left the stage which was a good sign.
Given how adorably cute she was, it was appropriate that her name was Joy. I offered her a lady-drink and a rum and coke (140 baht) went on to my chit. She was 21 from Phetchaburi and held my hand as we chatted. She had a fun personality and was exactly the type I like to go for.
After fifteen minutes she said 'I want to go with you'. I was tempted but didn't want to bar-fine a girl too early as I wanted to visit some more bars. I told her my stock excuse that I had to meet a friend and added 'hopefully I see you later'. She was a strong contender.
Next I went to DOLLHOUSE. There were nine average girls on stage and although none were contenders, several had sexy bodies. There was only one other customer despite the fact that drinks were half-price due to 'happy hour'. Perhaps this bar is experiencing hard times? I'm sure it didn't help that the famous curved neon sign outside wasn't switched on. The second dance shift had 14 girls and although a few got my attention, including one with big tits, there was no-one to rival Joy.
I noticed that whenever a customer walked in, they headed directly for the stairs. I went to investigate. Upstairs there were four round tables on which girls danced, completely naked except for a garter in which 20 baht notes had been stuffed. Although it was much smaller than downstairs, it was crowded with customers. Sadly the room was dark and it was difficult to ascertain how pretty the girls were. I sat at one of the tables and was hypnotised by the naked body gyrating within touching distance in front of me. I couldn't take my eyes off her neatly trimmed Bush and firm tits. She had a number 21 badge attached to her garter and was maybe a 7/10, although it was difficult to tell in the dark. I slipped her a few 20 baht notes before I left.
Another recommended bar on Soi Cowboy is TILAC. It was 9. 55pm when I walked in and the bar was the liveliest so far. 16 girls were dancing with great energy as girls on the sidelines laughed with customers. There was lots of chrome, glass and mirrors so flashing lights reflected around the room. Most girls danced on the stage in the middle but others danced on small tables in the corners. I wondered whether they were knickerless like the last time I visited.
I was impressed with the quality of girls. There were lots of lookers and a few standouts (sadly their badges were too small to note their numbers from a distance). As I was looking, three girls wedged themselves next to me. All three were average but the one sat on my knee was lots of fun. Her name was Boom and given her flirty nature, I imagined she'd be explosive in the bedroom. She was a 6/10 but oozed sex appeal so I bought her a drink. She repaid me with a long, lingering kiss and took my hand and placed it over one of her firm breasts. Inevitably this got me hard and when she noticed she rubbed my dick and fixed me with a sexy stare. The look in her eyes was telling me exactly what she'd like me to do with it. Tilac definitely has an 'anything goes' atmosphere.
A Western couple in their thirties walked in. They sat near the stage but left after a few minutes, the girlfriend looking disgusted. That is the problem when Lonely Planet promotes a 'naughty nightlife' venue (Soi Cowboy was featured in the movie Hangover 2). Tourists go along to 'tick a box' but get a shock when they realise that sex is for sale! Heaven forbid Soi Cowboy going the same way as Patpong, the perfect place for tourists to get ripped off.
The toilets in Tilac are worth visiting. You stand at the urinal and there is a small window at eye level that enables you to see the girls dancing on stage as you do your business. On the down-side there is a toilet attendant handing out warm towels and expecting a tip, a pet hate of mine. I returned to my seat and out of curiosity asked Boom about prices. The bar-fine is 600 baht and she charged 2000 baht for short-time or 3000 for the whole night. She seemed likely to provide great sex so I added her to my shortlist. I was impressed by Tilac. It had lots of pretty girls and a party atmosphere.
It was 10. 50pm and given the fact that I expected jet-lag to catch up with me later, time to bar-fine someone. I had a few girls on my shortlist but there was only one winner. I returned to SHARK but couldn't see Joy at first, so took a seat in the same place as earlier. One of the dangers of gogo-crawls is that sometimes my favourites will get bar-fined before I return. I crossed my fingers that it hadn't happened tonight.
16 girls were dancing to Lady Gaga and there were more lookers than earlier in the night. As I was admiring three hotties on stage, two young girls sat either side of me. I told them that I was looking for Joy and as if by magic, she appeared in front of me. Her face lit up. 'You came back! ' she said with a big grin.
I offered to buy Joy a drink and she asked whether I would like to buy one for the two girls sat either side of me as well. It was admirable that Joy wanted to help her friends but I never buy more than one lady-drink at a time. The girls left and Joy was happy to see me. She had a sweet smile and was very warm and affectionate. We chatted for a while before it was time to talk money. She quoted 2500 for short-time but immediately accepted my counter-offer of 2000, which seems to be the going rate for a pretty girl on Soi Cowboy.
After a few minutes she told me 'must dance now, unless you pay bar-fine'. She was such a sexy mover I wanted to see her dance again. She went up on stage and picked a spot right in front of me, fixing me with a sultry stare as she danced to the music. It was exciting to think that later we'd be doing a different type of dance on my bed. The way that she moved her whole body perfectly in rhythm suggested that she would be a great performer.
I intercepted a waitress walking past and told her I'd like to pay Joy's bar-fine. The waitress informed Joy who skipped off the stage and planted a big kiss on my cheek. It's great when you meet a girl with such enthusiasm. She went to get changed while I stared transfixed at a stunning girl on stage wearing a number 1 badge.
Ironically Joy returned when 'Love Machine' was playing. She was wearing an elegant red dress.
We got a tuk-tuk back to Nana. The night was young so I asked her if she'd like to go for a drink somewhere. She told me that she'd like to see Nana Plaza so we went to a beer-bar on the ground floor. It was a great spot to perv on attractive girls walking to and from the gogo bars. At one point Joy was giving me a hug when she started laughing. She told me that an old man had walked past and when he saw her he did a comedy double-take and mouthed 'wow'. She was definitely a head turner.
She asked me 'you like pool? ' and took me to a bar nearby that she used to work at. We held hands as we walked there and two Western women walking in the opposite direction gave me a disapproving look. It's a sad state of affairs when you have the 'walk of shame' in Nana! We played pool and Joy's ladyboy friend re-racked after each frame. I bought her a drink too, as much to impress Joy. If a girl likes you and senses that you are generous, they are far more likely to perform.
Seeing Joy's petite body leaning over the table had got me horny so I suggested that we go back to my hotel. She agreed and we walked the short distance back to Nana Hotel. She passed her I'd card to the security desk and we took the lift up to my floor. In the room we were chatting on the bed when her phone rang. She spoke in Thai for a few minutes before saying 'this my sister' and handing me the phone. 'Hello, nice to meet you' I said, 'can't talk for long, I'm about to screw your sister'. Okay, I admit, I didn't actually say that but it was what I was thinking!
After we showered we lay naked on the bed. She had tiny breasts. We kissed before she went down on me and gave me a confident blow-job. I closed my eyes as I felt her warm lips wrapped around my cock and heared her muffled mmm's. After a few minutes she asked 'you have condom? ' She wasn't hanging about! I suppose that's to be expected when you take a girl for short-time before midnight. She'd be hoping to get another customer later.
She lay back, spread her legs and I slid in to her and began fucking her slowly. She really got in to it, pulling my face towards hers and kissing me passionately. Next she rode me, rocking her hips back and forth on mine while staring in to my eyes. I rolled her on to her back and fucked her hard and fast in mish as she said 'oh yeah! ' and groaned loudly. It wasn't for theatre like Amy in Nataree, she clearly loved sex as her erect nipples proved. I came to a shuddering climax and collapsed next to her on the bed.
Barely had we got our breaths back when she asked 'we go Nana Liquid? My sister there'. Liquid is Nana Hotel's nightclub where gogo girls try to pick up customers when they've finished work (or returned from a short-time). Although I wanted to visit, I sensed that I'd end up funding their night out. Besides, jet-lag had caught up with me and I needed sleep. We swapped mobile numbers and I gave her a decent tip as well the 2000 baht we'd agreed on.
It had been a great night. Soi Cowboy has lots of attractive girls and Joy had definitely lived up to her name. She was that magical combination of sweet and innocent, who transformed in to a nympho when her clothes came off. I went to bed with a smile on my face. Two sexy young girls in one day, what would tomorrow bring.
NOTE: This is day 2 of my 21 day diary. I will post the third and final day in Bangkok tomorrow (Nana Plaza) and then switch threads to Siem Reap and then after that Phnom Penh. My diary will end with a week in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1427213]I described in detail in a previous ppost.[/QUOTE]Found your description of her. We must be thinking about the same girl. For your information, you won't see her in a long time, if ever. This is not second hand information, I got it from herself last weekend.
According to a Master Card survey, Bangkok is to become the most visited city in the world this year, narrowly beating out London. I saw this on CNBC Asia. I don't know what that will mean for you guys living there, but I thought traffic was bad enough before. Business and the economy in the region must be picking up.
If you build it, they will cum
Fucked the shit out of Jessica Rabbit body passed out On my bed. Hope I didn't actually fuck her to death.
You can measure the quality of my nights by the songs I play from worst to best.
1) Huk noum fai fah (play this for the little farm girl, isaan shits)
2) Calvin harris (worldwide feel good music for girls that own a shirt more then 100 baht)
3) flo rida (playing now for the hourglass figure in a coma. For girls that do a little clubbing, a little spicy, tattoos etc.)
4) Miguel (this is for when it's on and popping, not as frequently as I'd like)
King of Thailand signing off.
Enjoy the Tips
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1427233]Found your description of her. We must be thinking about the same girl. For your information, you won't see her in a long time, if ever. This is not second hand information, I got it from herself last weekend.[/QUOTE]If I see her I will let you know. Did not spot her on Saturday.
Meanwhile you left out the reason for her not returning. Surely she told you that too.
I am thinking you are not the one to take her away from it all?
I recall her reasons for working the bar: Get money, support a child, and sex with Farangs. So what has changed? Hopefully not pregnant. She seemed just a little wayward to make a great GF prospect (understatement LOL). Actually very few Bargirls make great GF prospects, even when they are great fucks, but its not totally impossible. I have phone numbers to contact some bargirls but never had a GF from a bargirl. Maybe I wasn't good enough LOL.
Fresh off the assembly line of big booty ho's that want my dick and nothing else in return.
Works at hotel on Sukhumvit 8.
Body ain't for everybody but you are welcome to a peak.
Ass to Mouth to kick her ass out.
Apparently they make thai girls like this too.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1427345]If I see her I will let you know. Did not spot her on Saturday.
Meanwhile you left out the reason for her not returning. Surely she told you that too.
I am thinking you are not the one to take her away from it all?[/QUOTE]No, its not because of me in any way. I just happened to spend Friday and Saturday evening with her and her boyfriend and another girl from SW. He is going to start working in CM next month and M is moving with him. They left BKK yesterday.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1427347]Try telling this to the owners of the miami marlins baseball team who built a new stadium on this premise. LOL.[/QUOTE]They would have cum if Loria hadn't sold nearly all the star players. AGAIN! What a scumbag he is.
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1427208]Is there a gym in the Nana area near Nana hotel. If so what are the rates.
Thanks,
Chris[/QUOTE]There's a gym in the shopping mall part of the Landmark hotel, which isn't far from the Nana hotel. It's called Fitness First and they do sell day passes. I used them last year and prices were 1000 baht for the first day visit, and 500 baht for every day visit thereafter. Alternatively, there's also a gym at the Exchange Tower (True Fitness), near Asoke Station. They also sell day passes but I forgot their prices. Of the two, I thought True Fitness had better equipment, but there was more eye candy at True Fitness.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1427496]I just happened to spend Friday and Saturday evening with her and her boyfriend and another girl from SW. He is going to start working in CM next month and M is moving with him. They left BKK yesterday.[/QUOTE]Wow, an interesting choice. At least she is a brilliant fuck and seems horny. I think his little head is doing the thinking! Maybe she will suddenly become more 'Riap Roy' (refined) , but the raspy voice will still be there (reminds me of my own GF when angry). Still, she seems like an straight forward enough girl rather than a pretender.
Perhaps he will be in heaven on earth. I probably never had a GF with her sex powers. Maybe one for a short while who turned out to be a nutter. Its actually hard to find girls with highly refined behaviour in public, that are brilliant on the bed and want it every day.
Its interesting that the bargirl stereo-type indicates that the girl should be shacked up with a Thai boyfriend / pimp. I think in practice, this is not always the case, for a significant number of working girls, especially those with a child to support.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1426766]I don't find the beach road rate excessive, but the Spasso 5K is insane. Like ordering an Outback Steak and paying thrice the price at a different restaurant only because of the location and maybe a few nicer light bulbs LOL. Then again, this is a guy who treats money like toilet paper and has hiso girls picking him up at Swampy in their Bentleys. LOL[/QUOTE]I fully agree the 5K unwritten Spasso price is rather on the high side as you realy don't get different girls in Spasso than in any of the other nightclubs known for mongering. Some girls may try to dress a tad more classic and less whorish maby but that is it. But even so 5K for a Spasso LT girl is the price and have been so for the last 5 years (I think that is approx when I first went there). I have gotten girls from there for 4K and I remember wagly some reports pulling Spasso girls for 3K outside the Hyatt (not me).
This Bentley pickups gets out of hand Tony H. LOL: I have been picked up in a Bentley with chaffeur though but never mentioned inside here. Owned by an extremely rich guy using this car atleast 1 month a year in total. Atleast he spends money like it was toilet paper having big piles of 1000BHT's throwing it around wherever he goes. He mostly don't go to our normal monger venues so relax people it won't affect prices for mongering in general as he cater the sugar daddy / golddigger market and the hi so clubs. I think I am trying to be a bit modest in my moneyspending all learned from inside here ofcourse (and atleast compare to him). LOL.
Girls have picked me up from various places in following car brands (from nicest to crappy all according to my memory as long as car pick ups in Bentley and Lamborghini comes up every now and then) : Range Rover (sugar daddy girl) , BMW 5 series, Honda CR-V, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Mazda, Ford Fiesta and some other I don't remember. Except the BMW 5 series (I guess it is expensive in Thai standards) I think my fleet of regular operates a quite modest and normal fleet of cars.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1427226]I slept well and took advantage of Nana Hotels breakfast buffet. There were lots of elderly gents with their younger Thai companion.
TodNOTE: This is day 2 of my 21 day diary. I will post the third and final day in Bangkok tomorrow (Nana Plaza) and then switch threads to Siem Reap and then after that Phnom Penh. My diary will end with a week in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Great reports sir. Waiting eagerly for your other reports. Please keep up the good work.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Skogis;1424025][U]FL Beachroad Pattaya VST (Very Short Time)[/U] 1K Pipeline pressure release only A+)[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Opebo;1426637]I don't object, and I know only about the one category (which I have underlined for the reader's convenience) , but in that category he's paying [i]double[/i] The 'going rate'.[/QUOTE]I was in Pattaya last week and can confirm the asking price rise on Beach Road for FL / SW. The more attractive ladies are asking 800-1000 baht firm for VST, and since even a [I]semi-hottie[/I] Sticks out like a sore thumb on BR they were in demand. Did not test the bottom of the market looks wise.
SunLover
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1427496]No, its not because of me in any way. I just happened to spend Friday and Saturday evening with her and her boyfriend and another girl from SW. He is going to start working in CM next month and M is moving with him. They left BKK yesterday.[/QUOTE]Well at least, Arthur (Or Andy, I can't be bothered to check) up in the CNX Forum who is always whining about the lack of good talent will be pleasantly surprised to have a BKK Superstar come his way.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1427561]I was in Pattaya last week and can confirm the asking price rise on Beach Road for FL / SW. The more attractive ladies are asking 800-1000 baht firm for VST, and since even a [I]semi-hottie[/I] Sticks out like a sore thumb on BR they were in demand. Did not test the bottom of the market looks wise.
SunLover[/QUOTE]Anything can be asked. It doesn't mean that is what should be paid. In Thailand the first price is not the final price.
Sir Lancelot,
I enjoyed reading your trip report and I look forward to hearing about your further exploits in Phnom Penh and Pattaya. You have a very good trip lined up. It sounds like you hit Cowboy right although as you write there is a risk inherent in your barhopping approach. Generally when I find a girl I like, I barfine her then and there and leave nothing to chance. There is always tomorrow and another bar, another girl.
Baccara, Shark, and Tilac are great bars and each has a very different atmosphere. I am surprised you found the Baccara girls cold. I know some great girls there. It is up to you to break the ice with a smile. They will smile back if not already spoken for and then you can invite her over for a drink. Tilac has some very attractive girls, but I find this Go Go a hit and miss kind of place. It is always the less attractive Tilac girls that come up and hit on me and rub my dick under the table. The really good looking ones remain more aloof. Shark is a classic example of a Bangkok Go Go. It has everything you want. Good vibe and the girls are very friendly. I like Shark. I know a former Baccara girl that now works in Shark. She says she wasn't making much money in Baccara so she moved. I don't know if that reason is true or not. I don't really care. All I know is she is sexy and very friendly. There is one more Go Go in Cowboy you should check out next time you hit the street and that is Suzie Wong's. It is similar to Shark, but more down and dirty. Nudity is a good thing.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1427568]Well at least, Arthur (Or Andy, I can't be bothered to check) up in the CNX Forum who is always whining about the lack of good talent will be pleasantly surprised to have a BKK Superstar come his way.[/QUOTE]Haha, yes wouldn't he!
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1427315]I slept well and took advantage of Nana Hotels breakfast buffet. There were lots of elderly gents with their younger Thai companion.
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I decided to go to BACCARA first. It's described as 'the best bar in Bangkok by a mile' by Stickman, Bangkok's online gogo guru. It was crowded with customers who were almost entirely Asian men.
25 girls were crowded on stage in skimpy white outfits. All were young, slim and half a dozen I'd rate 8/10 or higher. Unfortunately though there was a distinct lack of atmosphere. The girls shuffled on the spot and were more interested in looking at their reflection in the mirror than interacting with customers. There were no smiles and none of the girls paid me, or indeed any other customer, any attention. 76 and 02 were both stunners but, like all of the girls, they looked bored. I wondered whether perhaps it was too early and the girls hadn't warmed up yet. Often bars give girls tequila shots for this very reason.
When a dance shift left the stage the girls walked in procession around the bar to give customers a closer look, just like the Pasha bars in Angeles. I was impressed by how pretty some of them were but they quickly looked away as if the last thing they wanted was to talk to a customer! I didn't take it personally because they were in the same trance-like state with all customers, even the big-spending Japs. How can Baccara be considered the 'best bar in Bangkok' when the girls act like zombies? There were no smiles and no fun. A gogo bar needs more than just pretty girls.
<cut [/QUOTE]Nana Hotel is not really so great. You might try another one next time.
I ate in Bradman's on Sat night as was watching sport prior to picking up a hot girl. Perhaps you were there too.
I think you have really down well to sample so many places in a short time.
I really agree with you that most of the girls in Baccarat are like zombies and show no interest in the customers whatsoever, staring into space, or at least no interest in the likes of me perhaps. So yes, how this can be rated a top bar is beyond me too. Its more like dolls coming off the assembly line for the Japanese customer. I have managed to find a good girl now and then but its just too crowded and the majority of girls are too "dead-pan" and too boring to interest me. Obviously Japanese taste and mine differ a lot and I am pretty much allergic to silicones and fake noses and Japanese like hairy pussy I think. In some other bars like Dollhouse, and Suzie Wong the girls have got personality (not always good). Shark is probably in between, with girls finding it hard to dance to crappy music, but really wearing too much stuff.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1427714]Nana Hotel is not really so great. You might try another one next time.
I ate in Bradman's on Sat night as was watching sport prior to picking up a hot girl. Perhaps you were there too.
I think you have really down well to sample so many places in a short time.
I really agree with you that most of the girls in Baccarat are like zombies and show no interest in the customers whatsoever, staring into space, or at least no interest in the likes of me perhaps. So yes, how this can be rated a top bar is beyond me too. Its more like dolls coming off the assembly line for the Japanese customer. I have managed to find a good girl now and then but its just too crowded and the majority of girls are too "dead-pan" and too boring to interest me. Obviously Japanese taste and mine differ a lot and I am pretty much allergic to silicones and fake noses and Japanese like hairy pussy I think. In some other bars like Dollhouse, and Suzie Wong the girls have got personality (not always good). Shark is probably in between, with girls finding it hard to dance to crappy music, but really wearing too much stuff.[/QUOTE]From my (very) limited experience. I totally agree with you.
Gali. Sitting at a desk covered in Travel Agent books for Thai holidays and wishing / remembering / wishing. Would be a nice way to spend Christmas
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1427654]I enjoyed reading your trip report and I look forward to hearing about your further exploits in Phnom Penh and Pattaya. I am surprised you found the Baccara girls cold. I know some great girls there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the compliment and I hope you enjoy my later instalments. As for Baccara. It could be explained because it was so early in the night. Sometimes girls take a while to loosen up which is why some bars give their girls tequila shots. Especially the younger girls, newer to the bar, of which Baccara has plenty. I was very impressed with the quality of girls though and upstairs was good fun. I'll definitely pay it a visit next time along with Suzi Wong.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1427714]Nana Hotel is not really so great. I agree with you that most of the girls in Baccarat are like zombies and show no interest in the customers whatsoever, staring into space, or at least no interest in the likes of me perhaps.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think I'll try another hotel next time. I chose it because I was familiar with it and I'm not very fussy when it comes to hotels really. Location is the main thing for me and that's one thing Nana Hotel definitely has. Plus I like walking past the freelancers in the car-park. Regarding the girls in Baccara, the thing that surprised me was that they didn't pay ANY customers any attention. If they only had eyes for the Japanese sugar-daddy types (like in Thermae) I would have understood but they didn't. Like I say, maybe 8pm is too early to visit a bar with so many young girls. Perhaps the time to visit is after 10pm when they've had a few drinks.
[QUOTE=AntiKlpd;1427557]Great reports sir. Waiting eagerly for your other reports.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much. Hopefully I didn't annoy too many people by accidentally posting it twice.
With only three weeks at my disposal, I knew that I needed to leave Bangkok tomorrow if I wanted to visit Cambodia and spent a week in Pattaya. It was a shame because I was having a lot of fun. After breakfast I booked a bus ticket to Siem Reap at the tourist information desk near reception.
Siem Reap is a city in northern Cambodia that not only has the spectacular temples of Angkor what on its doorstep, it has a small pay-for-play scene to explore as well. I planned to spend a few days there and then travel south to Phnom Penh where there are lots of pretty girls to be found for cheap prices. I was interested to see whether Cambodia's girlie scene could rival Thailand or Philippines, or even Indonesia which impressed me a couple of years ago.
I spent the day on the Chao Phraya river cruise. If you like dilute your night-time adventures with some tourism, Bangkok is the place for you. I got back to my hotel and slept for a few hours. I wanted to be fully energised for my trip to Nana Plaza.
As the sun goes down, Bangkok comes alive. Along the same side of the street as Nana Plaza are a number of large beer-bars. Morning & Night and Stumble Inn start to get busy early evening and a little further down are Zen B and Hillary 4. All have lots of older men drinking beer with a Thai girl for company. My favourite is Big Dog because it overlooks the entrance to Nana Plaza. I arrived at 6pm and drank a few Singha beers while watching the gogo girls arrive for work. It's a good tactic because if you see one you like, you can make a note of which bar she goes in to and visit it later.
I watched as tall ladyboys with massive tits tried to latch on to guys as they entered. About 30 freelancers stood on the opposite side of the street in front of Nana Hotel. This is the 'bargain basement' of Nana and although most of these girls are average, a few are pretty and would cost a fraction of the price of the girls from the gogo bars. Of course the usual rules apply with street-walkers, who would be untraceable if something went missing from your room. Lock up your valuables and if 'riding bareback' is your thing, these probably aren't the girls to do it with.
On my very first trip to Bangkok I went with a few of these freelancers when I was with a friend who didn't approve of pay-for-play. After a night out we'd go back to our rooms and I'd wait five minutes before tip-toeing back out and hastily procuring the services of a street-walker. It was exciting covert shagging! I ate at Bus Stop again. I enjoyed the banter with the waitresses and one in particular was sexy with an enticing figure.
Nana has more regular tourists these days after Lonely Planet mentioned it in their latest guide. They fall in to two categories. Firstly there are the backpackers looking for a (not so) cheap thrill, who get a shock when they see men their fathers age walking hand-in-hand with girls half their age. Then there are the curious couples. Usually the male partner will have a look of feigned disgust on his face but will no doubt be thinking 'if only I was single for a night'.
I walked in to Nana Plaza at 8. 30pm and strolled around the bottom floor. Rainbow 1 in the corner is renowned for having lots of talent. I've taken two gorgeous girls from there in the past, including a sweetheart I spent three nights with on my 'cherry trip'. However, sometimes good things don't last and apparently it is now a 'Jap-trap' with higher prices than other bars due to its prime location. I gave it a miss. Other bars have pretty girls without inflated prices.
To the right of the entrance is a static escalator up to the 1st floor. At the top I got mobbed by lots of pretty young 'hello girls' as there are three bars in close proximity. I opted to go to MANDARIN as it impressed me on my last visit. It's in the corner and you have to climb a narrow staircase to enter. 15 girls were onstage and I was impressed by the quality. They were so pretty it took me a minute to notice that they were also topless! There was a friendly atmosphere and girls smiled down at me from the stage.
Three of the girls dancing were very pretty and there were two equally attractive ones sat near the stage. Annoyingly the mamasan saw me looking at one girl and waved her over to sit with me. I hate it when this happens as I prefer to choose my own girl in my own time.
The girl was an 8/10 with long hair and braces on her teeth. Her English was poor though and conversation soon ran dry. Her name was Tan and she was 19 years old. I bought her a drink and the pushy mamasan asked for one as well, another pet-hate of mine. I pretended I didn't understand.
There were two dance shifts. The ones wearing white bikinis were prettier while the other girls were topless. There were some stunners. Number 38 was adorably cute. 78 had pinched Vietnamese features and 49 had short hair and smiled whenever I looked at her. Then number 4 walked on stage. Wow. She had long blond curly hair, a beautiful face and the type of figure that makes men drool. If the mamasan hadn't forced a girl on me, I would have invited her to sit with me and perhaps even bar-fine her too. Aside from the pushy mamasan, Mandarin impressed me. It had great girls and a fun and friendly atmosphere.
SPANKY'S was crowded. As I looked for a seat I was spanked by a girl with a plastic fly-swat. Fair to say it woke me up! There were 15 topless girls on stage who took great pleasure in spanking each other and there was lots of laughter as a result. On the down side I have never visited a bar with such a high ratio of customers. There were three times more customers than girls! It reminded me a gogo bar in Koh Samui. The talent was average with nowhere near as many pretty girls as Mandarin. There were a few pushing 7/10 and I noticed a blond with fake tits gleefully thwacking a customer next to the stage with her foam whip. Given her efforts, I think she had a sado-masochistic streak! A girl lathered herself with soap in a shower next to the stage.
The next set of girls took to the stage and once again I didn't see any that excited me. Even if I saw a 10/10, with so many customers she'd probably get snapped up by someone nearer to the stage. I finished my drink and put a few hundred baht in to my plastic cup. But when I looked up to find a waitress, I was confronted by a large pair of tits in my face. It was the blond S&M queen! 'You not go? ' she said, pretending to be upset. She sat on my lap and it took all of my powers of concentration to look at her face, not her tits. Her name was Ice and she had a mischievous personality. I tend to go for sweet young girls (like Joy the night before) but Ice would undoubtedly deliver great sex. I told her I might see her again later and she spanked me when I stood to walk out. She was an option for later if I was feeling kinky!
BILLBOARD is another bar that enjoys a good reputation. It's a large bar with a round stage, on which two girls were doing a lesbian dance routine to slow music. I ordered a drink and by the time a waitress had bought it over, three sexy girls were topless on stage, doing gymnastics around the silver poles. In Philippines this kind of entertainment is common but not so much in Thailand. I like it because the girls often relish the chance to perform and it's something different to watch. It wasn't all shows though and a short while later 20 girls filled the stage. All were young and several were worthier of closer inspection. Five extremely young looking girls covered each other in suds in the jacuzzi.
A pretty girl in an elegant black dress approached me. She told me 'I saw you outside, I thought you handsome'. Her flattery worked, I bought her a drink. Her name was Nina and I was surprised to find out that she was 34 as she looked younger. She spoke excellent English and I enjoyed sharing a proper conversation instead of the usual gogo talk. She had an air of confidence so I knew she would be a good choice if I chose to bar-fine her. I added her to my shortlist along with Ice from Spanky's and the sexy blond from Mandarin.
I decided to go my favourite bar next, RAINBOW 4. It is located on the 1st floor in the far right corner and has more girls than any other bar in Nana Plaza. I entered at 10. 45pm and it was busy with customers and there was barely a free seat. A young waitress tried to usher me to a table in the corner but luckily I spotted a free stool in the central alley. Rainbow 4 has a strange layout with two L-shaped stages, so the central alley is probably the best place to sit because you can see the most girls. It's also very close to the action. The girls leather boots are in danger of knocking your drink over and you can't help but get hypnotised by all of the jiggling bums. A front row seat at Rainbow 4 is the hottest ticket in town.
There were 40 girls on stage and at least the same number crowded on the sidelines. All were young and the talent levels were exceptionally high. Number 37 was pale-skinned with fair hair but predictably within seconds of me spotting her, she got summoned by a Japanese man. To my right I saw an average girl on stage but her tits were the biggest I've seen in Asia since a brothel in Jakarta a few years ago. It's a shame she wasn't dancing on the 'topless' stage! Number 113 was a 9/10 with a stellar body and perky fake tits. When she saw me looking in her direction, she smiled.
That's one of the best things about Rainbow 4. Given the bars reputation as the best in Nana Plaza, you might expect the girls to be snooty but the atmosphere is excellent and there is lots of interaction between the girls and the customers. The girls smile, wink and wave so it is very easy to build rapport with a girl you like.
I went to the toilet and there were four pretty girls huddled in front of the mirror, carefully applying their makeup. On the way back to my stool number 197 caught my eye. She was extremely pretty and a sexy mover too, comfortably the best dancer on view. I hadn't noticed her earlier because she was dancing on a part of the stage that was obscured from view from my seating position. She flashed me the kind of dazzling smile that makes me go weak at the knees. I knew immediately that she was my girl.
Using the universal sign language for 'would you like a drink? ' I called her down. Up-close she was even sexier than I thought. She was small in stature but big on personality and had the kind of face I couldn't take my eyes off. As an added bonus she had big tits. Her name was Pam, she was 21 and she was yet another Isaan hottie. Without doubt she was a 10/10.
We chatted for ten minutes and when she finished her bacardi and coke, I told her that I would like to bar-fine her. Like Joy she opened with a price of 2500 baht for short-time but immediately accepted my counter-offer of 2000.
I paid the 600 baht bar-fine and she got changed in to a leopard skin dress. 'Where you stay? ' she said as we left Nana Plaza holding hands. When I told her she said 'Nana Hotel is dirty' before adding 'receptionist she never smile'. I found this funny. It proved that it wasn't just me that the receptionist was miserable with!
After we showered I admired her tits. She told me that they were double D's and she'd had them done three months earlier. Although I'm not usually a fan of fake tits, they looked great. She invited me to touch them so I gave them both a squeeze, like I was testing fruit for ripeness at a market stall. They were firm but not too hard and the nipples were pointed, not the fried eggs you often get with fake tits. In the interests of market research, I gave them each a suck.
She knelt down on all fours on the bed and gave me a really good blowjob. It was so good I could have let her finish me but I wanted to fuck her. She lay back and I slid in. Her pussy was tight and she grabbed me tightly as we fucked, thrusting her hips at me. After a few minutes she told me 'you lie down' and she rode me expertly, grinding her hips while clenching her muscles around my dick. She placed her feet on the bed and rode me in 'Asian cowgirl', bouncing up down on my cock at pace, groaning loudly while fondling her own tits.
She said 'you come now, okay? ' I thought it was the old hooker trick of trying to hurry things along but I was wrong. Ten seconds later she groaned loud enough to wake every guest in the hotel, before shuddering violently and collapsing on top of me. 'You come? ' she asked breathlessly but when I told her that I hadn't, she said 'I said I come. We not come together! '. I felt like a naughty schoolkid being told off.
She continued to ride me before I lay her on her back and lifted one of her legs over so that she was on her side, a position Filipino girls love as it means a tighter pussy. I pounded away until I shot my load.
We lay next to each other chatting and she told me that she liked me because of my smile. I was tempted to ask if she wanted to stay all night as I would have enjoyed falling asleep with her in my arms and then fucking her again in the morning. I decided against it though as I had a very early start tomorrow and the last thing I wanted was a big-boobed distraction like her! I gave her a tip and kissed her goodbye.
NOTE: This was my last day in Bangkok. I will continue this diary in the Siem Reap, Phnom Penh, Sihanoukville and Pattaya threads.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1427561]I was in Pattaya last week and can confirm the asking price rise on Beach Road for FL / SW. The more attractive ladies are asking 800-1000 baht firm for VST, and since even a [I]semi-hottie[/I] Sticks out like a sore thumb on BR they were in demand.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I may be a bit out-of-the-loop as I always just call the same few old regulars, and they all charge me 500 baht. However, as often happens one or more of these few can be in jail or absent, so its good to know that in general its not worth going to Pattaya!
[QUOTE=Hobbyist2;1427259]According to a Master Card survey, Bangkok is to become the most visited city in the world this year, narrowly beating out London. I saw this on CNBC Asia. I don't know what that will mean for you guys living there, but I thought traffic was bad enough before. Business and the economy in the region must be picking up.[/QUOTE]The report is 2013 projected visitors. Bangkok = 15.98M & London 15.96M. The report attributes this to the surge in Chinese tourists (83M globally). In 2012 Chinese tourists spent over US$100B, much of it on retail. In Bangkok they are spending an average of US$167 per day during an average stay of 1 week. Most Chinese travel as part of a tour group.
Not my type but liked her tongue kissing in the club, thought I was in for some good service. Anyway.
Would like to thank a couple posters who's posts helped me deal with this situation better.
90 minutes into fucking I get fake cries, shouts "you pay me 1000 now" and throws her purse and shit.
I actually laugh and look at her calm, cool, and collectively and tell her to take this 500 or I will kick her ass out and give you nothing.
2 seconds later she is cuddled with me wanting that longtime. Actually preparing me a nice meal now.
What a difference a little bit of knowledge makes. And I'm out.
I greatly admire Sir Lancelot's reporting. It is factual, impressionistic, well-paced and well-structured. From one writer to another: Congratulations.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1427758]NOTE: This was my last day in Bangkok. I will continue this diary in the Siem Reap, Phnom Penh, Sihanoukville and Pattaya threads.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. Looking forward to reading more of your fine adventures.
SW
[QUOTE=The Hooligan;1427508]There's a gym in the shopping mall part of the Landmark hotel, which isn't far from the Nana hotel. It's called Fitness First and they do sell day passes. I used them last year and prices were 1000 baht for the first day visit, and 500 baht for every day visit thereafter. Alternatively, there's also a gym at the Exchange Tower (True Fitness), near Asoke Station. They also sell day passes but I forgot their prices. Of the two, I thought True Fitness had better equipment, but there was more eye candy at True Fitness.[/QUOTE]1000 baht for one day and 500 baht each day after that? Is that a typo? For that kind of price I want to be blown after my work out.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1427895]Very good writing. Sorry but there are just not that many hot girls working NAna as he claims. LOL.[/QUOTE]Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, it is often said here.
Ughhhh girl sniffed coke in my bathroom last night. Since when is Thailand, Colombia?
When you literally wake a girl up to a dick in her ass it has to come with a price right?
Well now I know. New Rule, check girl's belongings before coming in my room.
Big booty ho showed up at my door looking for some dick and told her to get lost.
Off to find a cheap long time and am long over due for a pretty spinner.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1428057]Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, it is often said here.[/QUOTE]Well to the Optimists its absolutely loaded with hot girls (or LBs). To the pessimists like me, there are a very few really pretty girls, and plenty of others with hot bodies but ordinary faces.
You only have to look at the the Youtube Philippeans Swimsuit video of 100 girls 2011, almost every one of them fuckable and at least 50% very pretty (and surprisingly few fake noses) , to see that the Nana talent is not that special. A lot of guys seem to equate hot to a very young girl with ordinary face but fresh good body. I agree that a few extra good lookers can be found though, especially if showing up early in the evening. Guys that show up late can't expect the best lineup.
In the end, most of us make do with just moderately good looks above average and a good body to our personal taste, but hope to choose girls that are enthusiastic on the bed. The really extra pretty girls that perform well too are really hard to get to. Very heavily booked and usually don't last that long in the business before someone wants to steal them away.
What we are left with, sadly is many ordinary lookers who may or may not perform well, and good lookers available who perform like shit, and the few exceptional girls causing train wrecks ("rot fai chon kan") with so many customers trying to get to them.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1427793]The report is 2013 projected visitors. Bangkok = 15.98M & London 15.96M. The report attributes this to the surge in Chinese tourists (83M globally). In 2012 Chinese tourists spent over US$100B, much of it on retail. In Bangkok they are spending an average of US$167 per day during an average stay of 1 week. Most Chinese travel as part of a tour group.[/QUOTE]Lets not forget that in general Thailand is not a credit card friendly country. So if MasterCard has done the report based on card expenditure and projections it does not reveal all. I am not talking about P4P but a lot of tourist places do not favour credit cards, with a surcharge of 4-5 or more percent. Not much legal, but it is a fact.
Especially in the country side or in establishments different than hotels or high end restaurants.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1428129]Well to the Optimists its absolutely loaded with hot girls (or LBs). To the pessimists like me, there are a very few really pretty girls, and plenty of others with hot bodies but ordinary faces.[/QUOTE]I agree in this and in general with the rest.
On the other hand we are not taking them up to bring back to our family or show to work collegues.
The body counts when on the bed as it is what we look at, and its details.
Face can be secondary as our eyes are somewhere else, as long as "ordinary", of course.
I am too surprised when I see pictures with people rating high points in terms of look.
But then. Do we look at ourselves at the mirror? LMAO
PS anyhow... I rate that comment from Harold un-necessary, as I don't think it was meant to warn other mongerers about the level of Nana.... One can see it himself and judge. I don't think anyone will jump on the plane just by reading that nana has lots of stunners...
[QUOTE=Harold444;1427895]Sorry but there are just not that many hot girls working NAna as he claims. LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Syzygies;1428129]A lot of guys seem to equate hot to a very young girl with ordinary face but fresh good body. I agree that a few extra good lookers can be found though, especially if showing up early in the evening. Guys that show up late can't expect the best lineup.[/QUOTE]As someone said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some of the Filipino's on that video aren't as pretty in my opinion as many I saw on Fields Avenue last year. Some people (and I know Harold you are one given previous posts I have read of yours) go for a certain type of modelesque look. I don't. A 10/10 in my books is a girl with a pretty face, a good body and a great attitude. For me, the biggest aphrodisiac is a girls smile and her willingness to use it. You might not think that Nana Plaza has many pretty girls but I feel confident that the majority of readers of this forum, and indeed the majority of the male population, would be impressed by some of the girls I alluded to in my diary. Nana Plaza definitely has some good looking girls. Soi Cowboy probably had the edge on talent but if I'm honest, Fields Avenue in Angeles, Philippines, beats them both hands down. I should also point out that I've been to Asia many times so I'm not a giddy first-timer!
[QUOTE=Vittu;1427875]I greatly admire Sir Lancelot's reporting. It is factual, impressionistic, well-paced and well-structured. From one writer to another: Congratulations.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirwilliam4;1427884]Thanks for the great report. Looking forward to reading more of your fine adventures.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys, I'm really pleased that you are enjoying the diary. My diaries take a huge amount of time and effort so it's always nice to get positive feedback. I will be continuing my diary in the Siem Reap thread, so please keep reading. Ps I love the Pulitzer comment.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1428172]This has been DEbunked recently by a cupple of posters here recently.
Now the theory that hott girls are just no fun. That has merit. LOL. Though I've come across one or 2 that are actually fun, they are exceptions to the rule.
Personally I like good faces with ok bodies. Good faces with good bodies just have too many customers.[/QUOTE]I like ok faces with great bodies.
[QUOTE=Chris Long;1427921]1000 baht for one day and 500 baht each day after that? Is that a typo? For that kind of price I want to be blown after my work out.[/QUOTE]Nope, no typo. Even went back to my e-mails to find the reply I got back from Fitness First when I initially asked about day passes. Something I didn't try was to ask for a trial membership. Not sure if they offer trial memberships but it might be worth a shot for you.
At mixx last night early and it is stacked with hot girls. Soon as I get there I meet the prettiest god damn girl I've ever met, light skinned, Chinese looking model an inch or 2 taller then me. I spend a whole 3 hours with her. There was some good moments but eventually got tired of her coldness. That and I saw her texting a girl she will be home 5am. I was probably a little too lackadaisical with it but just leave her without getting her number. That one is going to hurt for a long time. Some people swear by persistence but in my experience that is a loser's game. I don't want to grow on someone. During a bathroom break I meet 2 really cute hoes who are about the baht but the chemistry was a little below what I was looking for and my threesome hints were brushed off. Lastly, I go up to the least approachable girl on earth. If ever there was a girl guys would be intimidated to go up to it was her. She may have been an actual plastic doll. Well I go up to her in my t shirt and get my first real ice cold rejection, Paris Hilton style. I look at her cell phone and it has the most disgustingly overly steroid using guy on it that I don't think most girls would be attracted to. Go figure. Maybe she is a rocket scientist. I walk off smiling and see her give me a look like this guy probably ain't that bad but it was too much of a mismatch for her. Vain and shallow are some of the ugliest qualities. I'm aggravated and get the fuck out of there. Taxi driver starts fucking around going with me going out the way and I get loud with him. I eventually get him to give me the ride for practically free cause I'm going to Insomnia and he get's a nice commission off it.
I start dicking around there for about 30 minutes with no luck when thankfully I finally find a winner. A little wild Vietnamese / Cambodian nana girl with a round booty and enormous fake tits. Dancing for an hour or more with her and then get the fuck out. Work my magic to get 1500 long time but still went above my 1000 budget and forget to use a few of my other tricks that would have probably gotten me that 1000. Oh well, next time. Good time and a real hot girl but want that model so hard now. Fuck me.
Leaving for Thailand Sunday morning, will be in Bangkok Monday night, staying in Nana until Friday the 7th then heading to Pattaya, will be staying on LK Metro until the 20th. If any one else is going to be in country at that time send me a PM and we can chase some Thai pussy together.
Chris
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1427561]I was in Pattaya last week and can confirm the asking price rise on Beach Road for FL / SW. The more attractive ladies are asking 800-1000 baht firm for VST, and since even a [I]semi-hottie[/I] Sticks out like a sore thumb on BR they were in demand. Did not test the bottom of the market looks wise.
SunLover[/QUOTE]Bare in mind this VST abbrivation is only sth I came up with as my sessions with Beachroad girls in Pattis for sure hell are not normal ST. This is only substitutes for wanking or release ppipeline pressure. If VST is in the abbrivation field I don't know as I never looked into it. Approx 10 min from leaving until she's gone is my record. LOL
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1428072]Ughhhh girl sniffed coke in my bathroom last night. Since when is Thailand, Colombia?
When you literally wake a girl up to a dick in her ass it has to come with a price right?
Well now I know. New Rule, check girl's belongings before coming in my room.
Big booty ho showed up at my door looking for some dick and told her to get lost.
Off to find a cheap long time and am long over due for a pretty spinner.[/QUOTE]Well I have been my times in Colombia and I don't want to read back of my findings inside here. Meaning if I did write about it or not. But I have had girls many times in Colombia sniffing some sort of shit but hey, as long as I can get the most of a sexual encounter from this I don't try to repaint the colombian picture. I am against all drugs. Some of my best deliveries sexual are in Colombia. Venezuale thereafter.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1428315]. Approx 10 min from leaving until she's gone is my record. LOL[/QUOTE]Is this including shower before and after? LOL
I guess feeling up women on the train got the best of somebody. So who is the culprit?
Man arrested for masturbating in BTS Siam station: [url]http://thai.vi/11cOG4W[/url]
I just met a girl from Rainbow 4 named Ice on the BTS. Just my type blonde with lots of sexy tattoos. Also has a flat stomach and tits bigger then my head. Judging by her looks and rent, she has to be a superstar. Says, she's been working 4 years there but I never saw her the total of 8 hours I spent there when first coming to Thailand. I'm looking alright, the conversation is going wonderfully and I think about to fuck a hottie for free. Then she has the audacity to quote me the highest quote I've ever been quoted 3000 short time and to see her in work. Insert every curse word here. She live's near me too. Says she hits up the disco's every now and then. If I see her there I'm going to grind my dick up her ass for an hour then take home another girl but I sure as fuck ain't breaking the bank on her. Any intel on this 1 would be appreciated. I know there's got to be some guys here that have been with this one.
Every night I take one of these ho's home I cringe. I swear 1 of them is going to get me killed. Initially, they are all over your nuts to make sure you don't have a change of heart. Meanwhile the taxi driver and his blue balls is contemplating burying both of us in a ditch. The 1 I took home 2 nights ago is saying most outrageous shit."Farang have big dicks" "Farang know how to fuck" Driver is understanding all of this and his face is priceless. Last night the 1 starts playing with my dick in the cab like they all do and driver does hardest break stop; lucky I didn't fly through the windshield. Other nights, the drivers take us to back alleys and shit and it gets hairy before I start raising my voice. Ho's & Taxi's.
Bad Service = Best Thing Since Sliced Bread.
Perfect excuse to not give them as much.
On an ok streak of good service though.
Let me share my experience in Nana plaza from a couple of weeks ago.
Went there around 9. My first destination was Rainbow 4 on the second floor. The was some cuties but a lot of guys also. I decided to check out other places.
There is a small go-go called 'Strap's'. I remembered that some guys reported there are many pretty girls there. I went in. Well, there are no pretty girls in that bar. That is for sure. I was the only customer and the dancer didn't even look at me. WTF? I stayed there about 10 minutes, hoping that all the beauties hiding somewhere and will go dance on the next shift. Of course not.
After that I went to Rainbow on the first floor. There was a pretty girl oh the stage. She smiled a lot and kept eye contact with me. That is always a good sign. I invited her to seat with me. I think her name was Ba or something like that. I bought her a couple of drinks than invited to come with me for short time. Paid a bar-fine (600 I think).
She changed into a dress. The girl looked really cute in it.
We went to my place, took a shower together. She was really nice. Gave her 2500. Yea, I know, Bangkok is not a budget place.
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1428310]Leaving for Thailand Sunday morning, will be in Bangkok Monday night, staying in Nana until Friday the 7th then heading to Pattaya, will be staying on LK Metro until the 20th. If any one else is going to be in country at that time send me a PM and we can chase some Thai pussy together.
Chris[/QUOTE]There is a special thread for Travel Announcements
[QUOTE=Harold444;1428267]No No and more no. Say I give you Nana has loads of good face girls with good bodies[/QUOTE]Thank you, that's very kind of you. I was worried that I was completely out of order with my observation that Nana Plaza has some pretty girls but now my taste in girls has your endorsement I can sleep easy.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1428267]no way do the MAJORITY think they have great attitudes.[/QUOTE]I didn't say that Nana girls have great attitudes. I was telling you hypothetically what makes a girl 10/10 in my books.
Ps. I'm not sure I can take an adult seriously who ends every sentence with 'LOL'!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1428139]The body counts when on the bed as it is what we look at, and its details.
Face can be secondary as our eyes are somewhere else, as long as "ordinary", of course.[/QUOTE]Yes I do understand this when I see guys write about how many stunners they saw, that they must have been compromising on the face. I have a different taste to the norm and recognise this well. At soapies the papasan may point a "hot" girl to me, whose face is plain to my taste. Other day the most "beautiful" girl pointed out to me looked semi-Farang, very ordinary, and slightly puffy jowls. Other "beauties" have weird noses (bad nose job). I also like narrow faces and small noses (not broad) and no hook noses. So my specs are ruling lots of girls out. I like the "modelesque" look even if the girls may be a bit short. Shortish is still okay if slim enough, and must be well above my nipple height.
Face always comes first for me, and I can compromise on the body to some extent.
Smile does matter a lot. "Not" in Suzie Wong had a very "down in the dumps" face when arriving one day. No one would give her a 2nd glance. I was sitting outside. As soon as she saw me, the face burst into magnificent killing smile and suddenly she looked pretty (and not much makeup). What a contrast! Face went from a 6 to an 8 in 1 second. White to dark skin, are not part of the criteria at all. The best looker in Suzie Wong is from Cambodia and darkish. Speaks Thai not quite perfectly.
Life would be so much easier if I could just look at the body only. Then I would be selecting a completely different set of girls, probably all with big tits. LOL
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1428339]I guess feeling up women on the train got the best of somebody. So who is the culprit?
Man arrested for masturbating in BTS Siam station:
[url]http://thai.vi/11cOG4W[/url][/QUOTE]A local truck driver. Not Luvpuss!
As a few fellow ISG members (myself incl) asking for reports from BASH I will now be so kind to provide it. After a good pickup in Climax we headed back home for some decent fucking. I could not finish as I was prepped with to much Kamagra gel and approx one bottle with Absolute vodka. I asked her if it was ok I went across the street to hit up BASH (I used a rather lame excuse I did have some friends present, hehe).
BASh I find as a posh nightclub. On the silverblancodoor (pleonasm) next to the Aussie bar it says "upscale late open nightclub". And I would state it as a so so hi so nighclub nothing simular to the best regular ones in BKK like Demo, Slim Fix and its like.. BASH is located directly across from the Grand President hotel in Sukhumvit Soi 11. Inside, atleast for a Thursday (well into the Friday morning though around 3/4am), it was no covercharge. Set up great and as normal mostly western guys and asian beauties populated the premesis. For a decent double vodka redbull it was like 350BHT and it seemed it was like a actual double as well.
Good crowd, good mood and a lot beautiful girls. I hand out som pics from my table accompanied by a few girls. One of mixed thai / american blood according to herself as her monger daddy had pregnated a thaigirl 23 years ago, hehe. Atleast proved by her english fluent and much better than mine..
So Rodwint are you happy now? BASH cleared and checked ok, ok? I will def go back tonight as the girls at my table was ready for a take out so they did infact give me grat motivation. I couldn't though this night though as I had my Climax girl resting in my bed waiting for some more norwegian wood:-)
Is that fella in the middle left photo picking his nose? Lol
If he is that's one hell of a photobomb hahaha
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1428752]BASh I find as a posh nightclub. For a Thursday (well into the Friday morning though around 3/4am) , it was no covercharge. Set up great and as normal mostly western guys and asian beauties populated the premesis.
Good crowd, good mood and a lot beautiful girls. I will def go back tonight as the girls at my table was ready for a take out so they did infact give me grat motivation.[/QUOTE]Skogis, thanks for taking one for the team. Looks like I am going to have to check out Bash next time I visit BKK. Soi 11 is very good.
Went relaxed and newly rested after my Biz flight into BKK. Had no pick up this time in Lambo car only the same girl awaiting me in her BMW530D (nice spinner both she and the car, hehe). She is a Siemens girl working in the head office so oly time for me and her to get a quick pussylook and penetratings. She left around 8am (my flight touched down 0540am).
Biergarden take out: After having a doze 2 hour sleep I woke up around 12 (noonish). Went to Biergarden and in 5 min I met this decent spinner agreeing into A+ at once. I was supposed to go all in covered with rubber but next you know I lie on my back aandshe just sitting down on my pole uncovered. Actually I did try my best tol get a covered session but it seems hard, hehe. She slights down my pole only to retract with her pussy füll of shit. Did not excite any pleasure into the BG tale out whatsoever.
Climax girl I got finaly rid of at 5pm and then I hooked up with some 3 norwegians at Hilary 3 (soi 11 across from President Palace). Had a lot of turns inside from this one and we did exremes and not so extremed all in good combination. Send her off with the usual 3K reward. Happy pappy. Another great day in BKK
Usually save my top shelf pussy for the weekend but dick is very sore, little backed up and tired.
Leave my place at 7 looking for a quick nut with an above average girl under 1000 baht which can be difficult in Bangkok when you emphasize the word quick.
Arrive in Sukhumvit 4 at 7:20 and see this cute, small nosed, light skin Chiang Mai girl near Rajah entrance I chatted it up with a few nights ago at 4am. Smooth talk the shit out of her down to 500 and use my first short time hotel which was better then the previous shithole I exited on the 2nd floor nana when I saw a middle eastern guy and a tranny in the rundown lobby.
First customer of the night and the pussy is really, really, really tight and wet. She is coming off a long motorbike accident recovery and been hustling for a month. Very safe conscious girl and I'm believably her first customer to not use a condom on her which I took off later in her session.
Hard nipples. Good moaning. I'm pleased.
What I was hoping for when I left tonight and home nice and snug with a good meal in me, my semen on her, ready to close my eyes.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1428752]As a few fellow ISG members (myself incl) asking for reports from BASH I will now be so kind to provide it. After a good pickup in Climax we headed back home for some decent fucking. I could not finish as I was prepped with to much Kamagra gel and approx one bottle with Absolute vodka. I asked her if it was ok I went across the street to hit up BASH (I used a rather lame excuse I did have some friends present, hehe).
BASh I find as a posh nightclub. On the silverblancodoor (pleonasm) next to the Aussie bar it says "upscale late open nightclub". And I would state it as a so so hi so nighclub nothing simular to the best regular ones in BKK like Demo, Slim Fix and its like. BASH is located directly across from the Grand President hotel in Sukhumvit Soi 11. Inside, atleast for a Thursday (well into the Friday morning though around 3/4am) , it was no covercharge. Set up great and as normal mostly western guys and asian beauties populated the premesis. For a decent double vodka redbull it was like 350BHT and it seemed it was like a actual double as well.
Good crowd, good mood and a lot beautiful girls. I hand out som pics from my table accompanied by a few girls. One of mixed thai / american blood according to herself as her monger daddy had pregnated a thaigirl 23 years ago, hehe. Atleast proved by her english fluent and much better than mine.
So Rodwint are you happy now? BASH cleared and checked ok, ok? I will def go back tonight as the girls at my table was ready for a take out so they did infact give me grat motivation. I couldn't though this night though as I had my Climax girl resting in my bed waiting for some more norwegian wood.[/QUOTE]Many thanks. The photos were a bonus as well. Will buy you a beer or cigar next week.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1428833]Your girls look a lot hotter clothed. LOL. Maybe you or puss of love same same![/QUOTE]I believe I am up for the challenge every day Sir atleast as long as your girls is pretty much hidden all in the darkness? Don't know if this dimmed lights are due to pussyscarment or simply bcs you never outside your wanking room back home in the US? Atleast I got a good deal with Elena and the other chubby Russian / stani. The chubby one told she is from Ukraine and Elena is all in Russian. I bought them both a bigfoot from Subway with some stinking ham (did not pay to much attention realy). My goal was to do Elena but I am proud to say I caved in. When looking closely at her she is at the best according to my standards a even steven 4. Others will prob question this and I would damn not try to lower her business qualities only simply not for me.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1428814]Many thanks. The photos were a bonus as well. Will buy you a beer or cigar next week.[/QUOTE]don't care much for cigars but you can fire up any time you like ok? Hehe. Beer seems nice though and I will ofcourse provide you with a bottle of some sort, hehe. I arrive from Manila (I am still in BKK though as I write) Friday 7 of June in the late afternoon around 5ish or sth. But I sure hell want to meet up and get a fast preview of your take outs / ins during your trip. By the way our girl at the Old German Bierhouse is on vacation until I believe around next Friday. She can come "inside" handy if you catch my driftings?
After last night take out from Climax and visits in BASH across the street from my hotel I was lowered into believe I was home free visiting Climax once again last night. Well said and done. Met up with a swedish speaking thai girl I find rather sexy (she is sleeping in bedroom as I write this report after wetting, squirting all over my bedcovers after a goodigood tungjob from mr Skogis). Well back to Climax the usual bottle of Absolute and 300bhts or sth in cover was paid (bottle still 2500 as it was also 5 years ago no inflation here).
Me and "sweden" hang out and I got kicked by my previous girl (the one sleeping while I visited BASH). She kicked me twice so I called up the managment and they kicked her out due to this. I feel no remorse whatsoever as she started this kicking game. I did not promise her a "rose garden" by any kind the night before but she sure was a great a fuck and as far as I remember never promised her I would stay true to her (I don't even stay true to my GF back home so why this girl?).
Me and ms Sweden went an all in after coming back from Climax my dick hurts and I provide some medics soon. Atleast after a lot of squirts my dick tends to get soar. I need some gentle touch for a few days. Maby I call in "sick" today just take a regular gilr for a Lembua spin we'll see.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1428967]don't care much for cigars but you can fire up any time you like ok? Hehe. Beer seems nice though and I will ofcourse provide you with a bottle of some sort, hehe. I arrive from Manila (I am still in BKK though as I write) Friday 7 of June in the late afternoon around 5ish or sth. But I sure hell want to meet up and get a fast preview of your take outs / ins during your trip. By the way our girl at the Old German Bierhouse is on vacation until I believe around next Friday. She can come "inside" handy if you catch my driftings?[/QUOTE]
Looks like we will be passing each other next week. I leave early Sat morning and take a pass on any thing from Friday afternoon on. Too old to party all the time at my age.
One of my side things (gik) of over two years was trying to redefine our relationship a couple of minutes ago. Never that!
Her: I free today want to be with you.
Me: I am eating breakfast now.
Her: I will go to massage and do what I want to do I know you so much busy also. What are you like me or you just see me as a sex object only?
Me: not important. You have a boyfriend.
Her: ok if that good bye na.
Me: bye
Arrived in Bangkok last night. First time here. I went to phuket but that was years ago. Flew in last night from Angeles city. (I'll add reports about my time there later.) The traffic here in Bangkok is horrible. It literally took 1 hour and 45 minutes to get from the airport to my hotel. I am staying at Majestic suites. Pretty nice spot. Can see nana plaza and nana hotel out my window.
Got to the hotel at 8:45. Friday night, this place should be jumping. Plenty of bars and girls all over in addition to the 3 floors of action in the plaza. I took my time and walked into each bar. Quick look see and then leave. I may have stayed for one or two if I saw something I liked.
Its more expensive here than in the Philippines. Prices vary but what I was quoted roughly is. 150 for drinks. 500-600 bar fine. 2000 short time and 4000 for long time.
I chatted with one girl, bought her a drink and dangled the long time "carrot" in front of her. She bit and later into the night the price kept varying by whatever deal she offered but still kept falling. At one point she offered long time with her and her best friend for 2000 each. I passed but by the end of the night just settled on her for 2500 long time.
I passed terminal 21 on the way here. Saw it here mentioned a couple times. May mosey on down and check it out.
Hi,
I'm heading to BKK in a few days and will stay there several weeks or months. I'd be happy to connect with other people eager to explore the city's nightlife and its awesome pussy resorts! Do not hesitate to pm me if interested. I'm European, young professional working with Southeast asia, interested in meeting nice people, hunt partners in the long term.
Other than that I'm also interested in any good tip you'd have for online action.
Thanks again for making this forum another great source of information.
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i am back in the us after an 8 day stay in thailand. i am a newbie to los (second trip) but not to mongering, have spent lots of time and money over the years on p4p in pi, europe, canada, mexico, and us. here is my recent bangkok experience.
first the boring stuff.
flight: booked through china airlines website well in advance, paid $930 us with $60 paypal discount.
room: stayed at star inn on soi 7/1, nothing fancy, just very basic budget accommodation chosen for its prime location, just a few steps from nana bts exit. ac worked well, plenty of hot water, friendly helpful staff, girl friendly (was able to bring 2 girls at a time to my room with no joiner fee). i booked the room on agoda. com around 6 months in advance, paid just over $17 us per night. someone here said they wanted to see pics of the room so i am including a few. no safe in room, kept passport and atm card in safe lockbox at front desk along with some cash, all wrapped in a sealed envelope that would show any signs of tampering. kept some cash in my wallet at all times and hid more in a secret place in my room, figured if one of my 3 stashes was stolen or skimmed i would still have the other two to get me through the trip (yes, i am paranoid about losing my money. as it turns out i didn't lose a single baht, never have lost money while traveling but i still try to protect myself).
food / drink: i ate breakfast every day on the cheap at took lae-dee restaurant at foodland on soi 5, american breakfast for b57 before 9am, english breakfast for b99 24 hours a day, a real bargain. grabbed whatever was handy for dinner, there was so much going on i didn't always remember to eat dinner. i am not much of a drinker so not much spent on alcohol, purchased a couple of cases of bottled water at foodland and some pineapple juice and a bunch of nuts and dried snacks, other than that and a couple of trips to nana plaza and soi cowboy didn't spend much on food or drinks. as i recall i bought maybe 6 beers. 10 cokes and i think 3 lady drinks in the gogo bars over the course of 8 days, most of the massage places i frequented (tulip / cherry / snow white) gave me free water and soft drinks and i was usually carrying a water bottle when i came in so not a lot of money spent there.
currency exchange: changed small amount of usd at lousy airport rate to get to hotel. once at my destination i changed large amounts at vasu, corner of suk & soi 7/1. rate was a decent b29. 7 to $1us (found slightly better rates in pattaya, i think b29. 89 was the best i saw).
transportation: took city line airport rail link on the bottom level at the airport to bts, cheap and fast, took less than 30 minutes from airport to phaya thai bts then maybe 10 minutes from phaya thai bts to nana. my plane landed at 10am and i made it through customs, changed some money, found the city line train (it didn't exist on my last trip to bkk) and made it to my hotel on soi 7/1 by 11:30 am. on the trip back to the airport i took the express line from the bts, i think it was b90, faster trip, nicer padded seats, no crowds, next time i will splurge and take the express from the airport as well.
i purchased the bts 1 day pass for b130 on days i had lots of stuff planned that was spread out around the city (shopping trip to mbk and excursions to patpong and klongsan plaza etc.) and i knew the total fares for the day would add up to more than b130. took motorcycle taxis maybe 4 or 5 times in 8 days, walked around a lot, got mixed up on the bts a few times but by the 3rd day i was able to find my way around wherever i needed to go.
also took a short trip to pattaya, will report more on that in the pattaya thread. notes: took the bus from ekkamai terminal near ekkamai bts station, a quick 2 hour trip on a nice ac equipped bus, b120 each way with buses running all day from early morning til 11pm.
performance enhancement: purchased apcalis (generic cialis) at pharmacy inside foodland, b200 per 4 pill pack. they also had genuine cialis and viagra for b2000 per 4 pill pack available with no prescription (for those who were asking earlier). took apcalis every day and it never failed me, i did have a terribly upset stomach by the 4th day that did not go away until a few days after i stopped taking the pills.
on to the fun stuff: i had a list of places and ladies i wanted to visit, managed to do all but one. was planning to have a crazy kinky session with mistress midori but decided against it as it was the tail end of my trip, i was exhausted, and didn't think i would be able to enjoy it fully enough to justify the expense (b8000 for 2 mistresses. 3 hours). i will probably give midori a try early on in a future visit.
here are the sexual high and low points of my trip:
best overall session = opor at tulip.
on one trip of many to tulip i forgot to take my list of recommended ladies, chose the most attractive one from the lineup and was extremely satisfied with my choice. opor has a very cute face, nice body, beautiful smile, excellent attitude, good sense of humor, a good kisser, she is extremely friendly and sexy, perfect blowjob with deep rimming, tight pussy, tighter ass, multiple pops, she is a well balanced package. she started off with a blowjob in the shower making the fake porno moans they all do, moved to the bed, i laid back and got a perfect blowjob, moved to cowgirl then doggie, back to blowjob and i finished in her mouth, i believe she swallowed. i immediately want down on her, slowly ate her pussy and fingered her g-spot and worked her up until her fake moans turned into real ones then to screams then a long silence as her body tensed up, then slowed down and did it all again but harder and louder. when she came squirted (i find many if not most women do with proper stimulation) so there's that for those who are interested. she soaked my face and fingers. she told me i made her cum 2 times and i am 100% sure it is true, she said it was her lucky day i had chosen her and i told her i felt like it was my lucky day too. she got me hard again and had a nice rough pounding anal fuck after that with her screaming "fuck me! yeah! fuck my ass!". pretty hot scene, finished in her ass.
a great lady, if she lived where i live i would repeat many times.
2 hours, b2300, msog, dfk, daty, bbbj, cim, rim, greek, gfe, pse.
wildest fuck = dao at tulip.
i went to tulip and asked for dao based on a recommendation from a board member, she was not available. asked if i could make a booking and mamasan said no, just come back some other time. took someone else, can't remember the name, was pretty okay but not really memorable.
a few days later i was coming back from pattaya on the bus, got off at ekkamai bts, took bts one stop down to thong lo station and popped into tulip around 9:30 pm and asked for dao again, this time she was available. would never have chosen her out of the lineup, was not attracted to her. got to the room and we made small talk while undressing, she said she knew i had been to tulip many times and asked which girls i had seen. i told her the names i remembered and she said "yeah, xxx is 'okay'. xxxxx is 'okay'. and xxxx is. 'okay'. but dao is fucking great!"
it was pretty funny to hear her say it, but boy oh boy did she live up to it. gave me a crazy hungry slurping blowjob, forced herself down on my cock as deep as she could til she gagged, i held the back of her head and gently forced it into her throat for some nice deepthroat fucking, she gave me the deepest most thorough rimming i have ever experienced, really reaming my ass with her tongue while making noises like she was having the most delicious meal she had ever eaten, and she fucked like an insane animal in heat. i was blown away by her performance and energy, ass fucking her doggie style she was slamming herself against me so hard it was a little scary, moaning and groaning and yelling at me to fuck her harder, and the rougher i with was with her the more she seemed to get off on it. i was pretty sore afterward, it felt like she may have bruised my pubic area when slamming her hot ass against it. she told me i should come back earlier in the day next time when she would have "more power". nope. if she had any more power i seriously think i might have been put out of service for a while.
dao is a really great fuck and i think would do just about anything you want her to, would love to see her again some day and really use her to the fullest. was not prepared for her the first time but now i have lots of ideas for next time.
2 hours, b2300, msog, bbbj, dt, cim, rim, greek, pse.
sweetest memory = momay at snow white.
there are a bunch of really cute girls in the lineup at snow white, most i didn't recognize and don't remember seeing the website. my favorite lady there and the high point of my trip was momay, very cute face, nice body, young looking, braces on her teeth (i love that. turns out hers are real, not "fashion" type braces most thai girls have) , gorgeous smile, sweet warm personality, funny, friendly, excellent blowjob skills, nice cowgirl, fake boobs that look and feel good (said she got them for the customers, b45, 000) , started blowjob in shower then continued on bed, cowgirl then doggie til i came in pussy, the usual. afterward i ate her pussy to two squealing orgasms, after the second she had a familiar look on her face. the look of "what just happened? what's going on here?" she kept saying "oh my god." and squeezing and hugging and passionately kissing me and staring deep into my eyes and i into hers. had what felt like a "magic moment", i felt like i had broken down the wall and had made a real connection, totally unexpected in this place. probably all in my imagination, but maybe not. we laid together for a while kissing and caressing each other, she asked me how long i stay in bangkok, if i see lots of ladies in bangkok, which ladies i have seen etc.
i told her that i wanted to see as many ladies as possible and she seemed sad. i asked how many customers she sees every day and she said "two, three, four." and i said "see? you, me, same same."
she told me i made her cum two times, said "how you know make me cum two times? now i no want go with customers!"
i told her i was sorry and we laughed, then we had sweet gentle missionary sex again to finish, lots of kissing and cuddling and giggling. afterward i told her i had to go and she said "no!" and hugged me tight, i didn't want to leave but i had a threesome lined up with some bisexual ladies from craigslist and it was my last night in bangkok. otherwise i would have probably paid to take momay out for the whole day.
a lovely, sexy, sweet little angel, would love to spend more time with her someday. very nice gfe, what a sweetheart! the only lady from tulip / snow white / cherry i did not do anally, when we started playing i slipped a finger up her ass and it was extremely tight, she did not complain at all but i had a couple of bad experiences with women who were too tight over the previous few days where i could tell it was really hurting them, did not want to cause momay any pain so did not try to fuck her ass but after fingering her bumhole i think she would not have objected to an assfucking.
2 hours, b2300, msog, bbbj, cim, rim, gfe, a real sweetheart.
most sensual experience = #82atnataree.
one day i was in the mood for a nice soapy massage, decided nataree would be the best choice based on what i had read in this forum and others. got directions from the net and took the bts to asok station, transfer to mrt, exit huai khwang station. my first trip to nataree i went too early, should have looked up their hours before i went, figured it would be similar to the other places i had been going so i showed up at around noon. doors were locked, went next door to the other building marked nataree, doors locked. walked to the next business to the left of the natarees, subway massage, went inside. only one lady working and a bartender. asked what time nataree opened, they both said "this is nataree!" i said,"whut? i am looking for nataree, do you know what time they open?" and they repeated "this is nataree!" hahaha they tried, i had a coke and sat under their ac til i cooled off and then walked back to the mrt and went to cherry instead.
later that night i took the trip back to nataree (had an all day pass on the bts and i think the mrt is b44 round trip asok to huai khwang) , walked in to nataree around 6pm and damn, what a bunch of beautiful ladies. the highest concentration of beauties i saw anywhere in thailand, ranging from very cute to absolutely stunning and there had to be at least 100 of them.
sat down and ordered a coke, papa told me the deal, girls in the fishbowl did soapy massage and were b2000, girls outside the fishbowl were more expensive, no massage, bath only then straight to bed and boom boom, i think he said b2800 for sideliners and a few "new girls" sitting on the right were as i recall b3000.
lots and lots of really great looking sideline girls (i am mostly attracted to faces first, after that the body is a secondary consideration but many of these women had truly beautiful faces and incredible bodies) smiling, waving wildly at me and competing for my attention but i really wanted a soapy massage at the time so after around 5 minutes drooling over the eye candy sideliners i focused on the ladies in the fishbowl. the fishbowl girls were not as young as the sideliners and for the most part not as over-the-top hot but two of them looked really good to me, i chose #82 (she later told me her name and i made a note of it but lost my notes on the flight home). very cute face, sexy hair and voluptuous boobs and ass. in the room i found her breasts were all natural, she was very sexy and sensual, gave me a thoroughly enjoyable soapy massage with a great titfuck then bareback blowjob, cowgirl, doggy, back to blowjob and finished in her mouth.
hot sexy lady, very pleasant sensual experience. 100% satisfying. will visit nataree again in the future and will probably try one of their drop-dead gorgeous sideliners next time.
1 hour, b2000, excellent, nataree is awesome!
silliest / funniest = ploy at cherry massage.
she is extremely cute, sexy braces on her teeth, looks young. i think she told me she is 23 and has been at cherry for 6 months. nice slurpy blowjob started in shower and continued on the bed, excellent deep rimming and she seemed to like it when i pulled my asscheeks apart and forced her to rim me deeper. shot number one in her mouth, she asked if i came, i said "oh god yes!" she acted confused and asked where it went, then smiled and rubbed her tummy and said "mmmmmmm, ice cream!" and licked and smacked her lips. i ate her pussy for a good long time, by the end she had squirted all over me. after she calmed down she told me she came twice and i am certain this is true as it was pretty obvious (yes this is my m. o, i cum once, make them cum a couple times then come back for round two of fucking. after they cum i find they are usually more enthusiastic and genuine in their reactions and their fucking the second time).
she sucked me again til i was hard, fucked her in a few positions then put my fingers in her ass, she lubed up her ass and i worked my cock in, nice and tight. played with her clit while i fucked her ass til she was moaning, things got pretty wild and ended up pounding her hard til i came in her ass, she is a very hot little thing. she made lots of jokes, has a great sense of humor and had me laughing for a good part of the session. a really fun session and she is cute as a button!
2 hours, b2300, msog, dfk, daty, bbbj, cim, rim, greek, gfe, pse.
most explosive orgasm = rin at hana massage.
someone was asking if she was still at hana recently, yep, she was still there as of a few days ago.
had been reading about her and her skills for years here, went looking for hana massage and walked all the way up and down soi 22 checking all the side streets but could not find it and had given up. was heading back to bts when some young ladies standing in the middle of a side street called out "massage?". turned to look, they were both fairly cute and i thought i might come back and see them at a different time so asked the name of their place, they said "hana!" and i said "wha? hana? does rin still work there?" they said yes, she does. told them i would definitely come back the next day to see rin and kept walking. walked maybe 20 steps and changed my mind, had to see rin now! when i got back to the side soi the girls were there talking to rin (recognized her from pics on the internet) , i think they were telling her i was asking about her and they got all giddy when they say me walking back and grabbed my hand and led me to rin. i smiled and said hello, she grunted, gave her a big hug, told her i had been waiting a long time to meet her, asked if i could have a balls massage now, she grunted. took me to a room and gave me one of the most powerful orgasms of my life, crazy techniques and strokes i had never felt before, gave me an indescribably delicious rhythmic prostate massage, by the end i felt like my whole body was electric. never had anything like this before (have had plenty of prostate massage but this was crazy) , rin is a true master of her craft and i will repeat every chance i get.
it is b400 for the hour and tip is b500. felt drunk or high afterward but was completely sober. an amazing experience, deep therapeutic massage with an over the top finish, highly recommended!
b900. fbsm, bbhj, therapeutic massage.
most impressive blowjob = ee at dr. bj's salon.
she looks great on the dr. bj's website, she is rated there at 9. 9/10 recommendation level but i would say that score is a little low hahaha.
i knew before i went to bangkok i had to give ee a try, my hotel was on the same soi just a few doors down and i passed by dr. bj's a few times every day to check out the girls and specifically in hopes of seeing miss ee out front. six days into my 8 day trip i still had not seen her at the shop and i was beginning to think i would not get a chance to sample her wares, not surprising she is busy all the time as she is mighty hot looking in those pics.
on night six or seven of my trip after maybe the 20th time passing by the place and not seeing her i emailed dr. bj requesting a booking. a few minutes later i headed out to tarntip across the street from dr. bj's planning to get a nice long oil massage, glancing over at the dr's storefront i finally saw her. sitting at the back of the group of ladies with her back to the street, i think she was texting or reading, obviously not interested in pursuing what would have likely been her 20th customer of the day (just a guess). i stood in front of the place for a couple of minutes waiting for her to turn around but she never did, the other girls asked if i wanted blowjob, i said "yes, from her". they said it would be okay they could get her but i didn't want to disturb her while she was busy so i said i would come back later, walked away for a moment then one of the girls told me to come back, told me i could see ee now if i liked.
i paid the b1000 and a lady took me to a room, i was confused and said i only wanted to see ee, she said yes ee was changing her clothes and would be ready in a moment.
got to the room and there she was, she had changed from the uniform the girls wear to a white marilyn monroe style dress and heels, she looked amazing. all tits and ass and lips and eyes and hair, a walking wet dream (yes i know the boobs are fake and some here have said they are a botch job, don't care. they looked incredible in that dress and she came off like a crazy hot cartoon character, something like a thai jessica rabbit maybe. ka-blammo! a real knockout.
she greeted me with a smile and a laugh, said she was preparing to leave for the night when they told her i wanted to see her. we talked a bit while i was getting undressed and she was cleaning my naughty bits, she is a pretty cool chick. seems like a real hipster, she talked about art a little (!) and can't remember what else then got right down to business.
wow! those lips! she keeps the glasses on for the blowjob and the sight of that sexy mouth wrapping itself around my cock while she gave me a devilish look with those big beautiful eyes was worth the price of admission. she gave a real porn worthy performance, lots of eye contact, just devouring my cock, she looked like a demon, a succubus (suck-you-buss) she would suck my balls, lick my taint, go back to sucking my cock for a bit then pop it out of her mouth, spit on my dick, then do this thing with her tongue, her long, crazy, snake-like tongue, something like a helicopter blade spinning at what seemed like an impossibly high speed around my cock as she jerked it. i have had the swirly tongue action plenty of times before but never with a tongue so long and fast and wild, unbelievable. seriously, as impressive visually as any blowjob i have ever seen either in porn or in real life, this one is a real cock sucking demon temptress from hell. something i will never forget, and if she were ever to make porn she would be one of my all time favorites. dammit, somebody put this girl in the movies! i would looooove to have some hot footage of her to "study", she is a real star just waiting to be put on video. top notch!
all the visual stimulation had me on the verge of cumming pretty quickly (and i think i had already popped 5 times earlier that day) so i changed position and forced her to slow down a bit, she started again and after a few minutes stopped and said in a wicked sing-song voice,"okay, i can see you're going to be difficult" (i was just laying back loving it hahaha) and poured some oil on my cock and started jerking it while doing the helicopter thing with her tongue around the head and fondling my balls, taint and ass with her other hand. the girl was like a crazy blowjob machine set on too high a speed, a dick-mixer set to "frappe", just phenomenal. it didn't take long til i was yelling and cumming hard, she immediately started sucking the head and continued milking me with her hands til i was finished, didn't noticed if she spit, i was pretty oblivious to everything for a minute or so.
when i came back to reality we talked and laughed a little and she cleaned me up, can't remember what we talked about but do remember she was really cool and sexy in a "seen it all, done it all" brazen, sultry sex-pot way. would love to hang out with her for a day and see how she fucks, if it is anything like her blowjobs i would bet she might be the ultimate fun-time toy.
i know people here complain about dr. bj's price being a little higher than the other blowjob bars, i went to all the others i could find in bangkok and did not see anyone as explosively hot as miss ee (okay, peung at sol is quite the lovely young lady with great boobs and good skills and pen at sol is very cute but lacks skills, and lek at mike's place is sexy and gives a very respectable bj but ee is a friggin' sex bomb! ka-boom!) and none of the other blowjobs i had in thailand were anywhere near as visually stimulating, interesting and entertaining as what i experienced with ee. get her while you can, i have a feeling she will be gone soon.
100% satisfied, would repeat and would love to take her out for a day.
b1000. bbbj, cim, pse, wow factor x 10.
favorite go-go bar = shark at soi cowboy.
baccara had more women (half of them topless!) , suzy wong had a decent lesbian show, rainbow 4 had some real cuties, but imo shark had the highest percentage of real beauties of any of the bars i visited in bangkok.
most of the girls at shark were cute or better, some were quite pretty, some very hot, some gorgeous, and quite a few stunning. lots of friendly smiling faces, did tons of flirting here, didn't take any girl from any bar but if i had this would have been the place i would have done it. checked out a bunch of bars in cowboy and np over a two day period, it was nice to look but seemed wasteful to me to pay a barfine when there were so many to choose from on the street with no barfine and much lower prices. went bar to bar, had one beer at each at first til i started feeling a little too buzzed then switched to having a coke at each place, checked out the girls, flirted and got my ego stroked, then moved to the next. usually told the girls who tried to sit with me when i entered that i was only there to take a quick look and would be leaving after one drink and they should go try to get someone else to buy them drinks, for the most part this work out nicely, didn't waste much money buying lady drinks for girls i was not interested in. saw a few bargirls who were beautiful, sexy, flirty and seemed fun enough that i did consider barfining a couple of times (one that i passed on i kind of regret, in hindsight i bet a night with her would have been unforgettable) but i never gave in to the temptation. maybe next time i will do the go-go thing properly, for me this trip was mostly about the multipop massage joints and the blowjob bars for me and i had budgeted my money accordingly and managed to stay focused and get nearly 100% of what i wanted out of my trip.
favorite oily massage. tarntip on soi 7/1.
some cute ladies, never disappointing, a bit expensive at b400 for one hour but well worth it imo and absolutely luxurious compared to some of the downscale cheapo oilies i visited on soi 18 and 22 and in pattaya. no private rooms at tarnttip, just a curtain for privacy. no tipping for extra services requested, just a nice massage transitioning effortlessly to he and then back to blissful massage every time and never any haggling over price, i always tipped b500 for the handy, maybe you could pay less or negotiate for other extras there, i never tried.
very satisfying, recommended!
biggest disappointment = eden club at soi 7/1.
i chose my hotel based on its close proximity to eden (3 doors down, i see 7/1 referred to as soi eden on the internet from time to time). i had visited eden on a previous trip to bangkok and was blown away by the girls, the service, the extremely helpful management, the concept, everything. six or so seven years ago when i first visited eden was the greatest thing i had ever seen or heard of, lots of sexy women when i visited, half of them did anal, all kinds of play was available, all with a money back guarantee if not satisfied.
things have changed.
on my second day in bangkok i showed up at eden just a few minutes after opening at 1pm, was told this is the best time to see the full lineup before girls are taken by other customers and was watching the door from across the street, no customers went in before me.
walked in, people were scurrying, looked like they weren't ready for business, ordered a beer and chatted with the manager mickey. told him i had been there before and had a great time, that i couldn't remember the name of the guy who helped me last time (marc maybe?) but that the manager had helped me with the choice of girls and his recommendation worked out perfectly. he asked what i was looking for and i said i wanted the best girls he had and asked if he could help with a recommendation. he said all of the girls were the best. i said i wanted the two girls best looking girls (in his opinion) who did everything on the menu and worked well together. he told me all the girls worked well together, the girls who line up to the left of the yellow line did anal and those on the right of the line do not and asked if i was ready to see a lineup. i told him i knew about the yellow line / anal thing and wanted wildest, most open to anything girls he had. he said he could not help me choose, that whoever i chose i would be happy with and that all the girls do everything and all are great. i asked which are most popular with the customers and he says different girls are popular with different customers and again asked if i was ready to see a lineup (i had been there maybe 4 or 5 minutes and had only taken a sip of my overpriced beer).
i gave up and said sure, let's see the lineup (should have walked). the girls shuffled in, a couple on the non-anal side of the line looked "okay" and one do-able one on the anal side of the line (should have walked). i picked the do-able one from the anal side and as per eden recommendation let her choose the second lady (if i had it all to do again i would have insisted on choosing the second girl, i know this is allowed but not recommended. the pair of them didn't work well together at all and at least if i had insisted on choosing i would have had someone better to look at for the next 90 minutes) , do-able girl of course chose the least attractive of all of them as our third wheel. ugh (should have walked)
so off to the room to play. the do-able girl (they told me their names and i wrote them down but lost my notes, who cares what their names are, don't waste you money at eden) didn't come to the room with us immediately, when she did show up she took forever to remove her clothes, then forever again in the shower while i was left in bed with the unattractive one giving me a mediocre and unwatchable blowjob. do-able girl finally comes out of the shower and is still frowning, i ask if she is unhappy and she shakes her head now and scowls, says something to the other lady in thai, at this point i am thinking i should call it off and go back down stairs to shoose different ladies but i think too much time had passed, like trying to get a refund on a lousy meal after having eaten too much of it. decided to stick it out and try to enjoy it for what it was (and it was crap).
do-able cranky girl finally comes to bed and joins in on the blowjob, i try to focus on her but she obviously doesn't want to be there. so weak. close my eyes and think sexy thoughts and manage to cum. on my first visit to eden this is when the lesbian show started, but these fine ladies opt to give me a lame "massage" (dry, rubbing my skin like petting a dog, for like 10. 15 minutes) , they said to let my "batteries recharge". after the 10-15 minutes i thought they were going to try to run out the clock so i turned over and said "enough massage! i want lesbian show now." and the grudgingly obliged with a weak pretend pussy licking show. i reached in and spread do-able girl's pussy and pushed unattractive girls face deep into it and rubbed it around in there for a while, then held it in place while i got up on the bed and stuck my cock into do-able girl's mouth and fucked her face a bit. after a while i turned do-able girl over and her friend lubed her up, stuck my cock in her ass and made the unattractive one eat my butthole. it was quite nice to watch the look of unhappiness on do-able girl's face in the mirror while repeatedly shoved my fat cock into her unenthusiastic lazy ass. not quite worth the price they are charging at eden, but some small consolation at least.
finally managed to cum a second time in do-able girl's ass, pulled out, jumped oof the bed and dressed as quickly as possible and left the room with them chasing behind me.
paid my bill (b3900 + 150 for the beer) and almost laughed out loud as the ladies sidled up next to me and waited for their tip. gave them nothing, and they earned it.
after a moment they realized they weren't getting a tip and walked away. i walked over to the manager mickey and told him i was not satisfied and the reasons why (terrible service and attitude from do-able girl). he told me i had chosen poorly! he said i should have chosen the girls who looked at me like they wanted to devour me. i told him i wished he had told me this before i made my choice, when i was asking for his help and advice. i told him i was very disappointed, that i had planned to visit eden many times on this trip and had chosen the star inn just to be close to eden as it was my favorite place in the past but that with the current poor quality of the girls looks and performance-wise i would wait until my next visit in the hope that they had sorted out the problem. i said i had read opinion on the internet saying eden was no longer the great place it once was but had held out hope that it would still be as good as i remebered. he told me many people on the internet say eden is much better than it was in the past (really? has anyone here read anything to this effect? does anyone here think eden is better than it was 6-7 years ago? have never seen or heard this, have seen only one or two positive reviews of eden here in the last few years with the majority saying eden is now a huge waste of time and money, and at this point i agree.)
so i left unhappy, went to tulip or cherry or snow white afterward (many visits to each, can't remember for sure who i saw next that day but i think it was either apple or candy at cherry) and had a great time for most of the rest of my trip.
note: everything i remember eden being years ago is still available for less money, in pattaya at devil's den! with some nice improvements over the original eden model!
will give a full report on my experience at devil's den in the pattaya thread.
more disappointment (tho not as sad and shameful as my horrible eden experience) : annie's.
walked in, ordered a coke, no other customers at the bar at the time. i used the restroom and came back about a minute later, took a sip of my coke and the lady asks if i see anyone i like. i had spent maybe 10 seconds in the room so far, i said i want to go closer to the window to take a look. lady says okay. i walk to the fishbowl window to get a better look, do not recognize anyone from the website, exactly one girl in the fishbowl i would consider to be "cute", the rest of them i do not find attractive at all, some of them look like the place was short handed and they dressed up the cleaning staff in slutty clothes for the night. a really terrible lineup, nowhere near as good as i remember choosing from on my previous visit years ago.
lady says "you choose?" and i say eh, maybe i will come back later, i pay for coke (i think 50 or 60 baht) and leave a 10 baht tip and say "for you" and she laughs at me. huh? i don't get it. is that not enough of a tip? how much did you think you deserved for being so rude and pushy? screw you, annie's lady! plenty of other more pleasant places to take my business.
left and went somewhere more fun. can't remember where i went but i am 100% certain it was more fun, wherever it was. seems like i went to patpong and star of light and mike's place that night but the days and nights and the order i did things in are all kind of a blur in my memory at this point.
as for sol and mike's place, i liked them, especially sol. it was indeed very cool getting a blowjob from the lovely miss peung at sol while drinking a cheap shitty beer, with people walking by and watching and other ladies asking if they could join in. sleazy, naughty, very hot.
people here keep writing that sol smells bad, i did not notice any weird smell when i was there but i was serviced on the couch in the bar and not in the bathroom. i did use the bathroom to get cleaned up and did not notice any weird smell there either, but i did notice the smell of open sewers in the streets as i walked around bangkok in the heat and after it had rained. also, in some public restrooms i noticed weird smells and saw these weird little white balls in the urinals, not sure if the balls were making the horrid smell or if they were there to get rid of it. my theory is some of those buildings have lousy plumbing jobs and that is the smell of the sewer seeping up through the pipes due to lack of p-traps, but who knows?
also, so many complaints about the crummy rooms at tulip in this forum, true the rooms are in bad shape but the rooms were in bad shape almost everywhere i went.
miscellaneous:
went to mango to check out the ladies, had a list of girls who were advertised as "a+ level", looked at the girls but only vaguely recognized one from the pics on the website, and she was stalking me like a jungle cat from the moment i walked in. i asked if she was oil and she smiled and said yes and started speaking in thai and all the girls were laughing wicked laughs. oil looked pretty good and was planning to come back and bang her but never got around to it, never went back to mango at all after i checked out the ladies snow white. will probably hit oil up next trip if she is still around.
had at least one oil massage with handjob every day, visited one bj bar every day, got at least one foot massage every day (a good way to pass time while waiting to recharge for the next round of sex.
cheapest oil massage i found in bangkok was b300 an hour, available at many places on soi 18 and 22.
memory is fuzzy now but i think i was usually paying b200 for foot massage on soi 18 and 22.
one hour foot massage for b99 and one hour oil massage for b200 + 400 he in pattaya, but that is a different story for a different thread, coming soon. i will keep it brief, i promise.
had a threesome with some ladies advertising on craigslist. org, b3000 for 1 hour, pics and video are allowed for a fee, very nice hot authentic passionate lesbian action (i am betting they are lovers in real life) but the girls were not really lookers. pam said she is 30, looks older, i think apple said she was 26, seems believable. apple is cute enough i guess, and she seems to really enjoy eating pam's pussy. they also do a really nice shared blowjob and the old "one girl your sucks cock while the other gives you a nice deep rimjob" bit and are very good at it. the girls have pleasant attitudes and are open to doing whatever i asked for, the blow+rimjob is part of their normal repertoire, really they gave me pretty much everything i wanted from a threesome without much prompting and the price was very fair imo. a hundred times better than what i got at eden for b900 less.
would not repeat as i was not really attracted to them but you might give them a try if you like a nice lez show.
silly story: saw so many girls around the city with braces and even more in pattaya, this is a big turn on for me. asked around and was told most of them were "fashion only". had read about the big fake braces craze in se asia and at some point a few years back read you could buy them in a packet at 7-11, they just slipped on. really wanted to buy some to dress up girls i fuck in my home country, searched forever online to no avail.
so after asking every girl i saw with braces where i could buy them and being sent on a few crazy wild goose chases i happened upon lek at mike's place in patpong. she had the fake braces and they looked great on her. loved cumming on them haha. asked her where i could buy them and she told me "kongsan", asked her to write it down and the next day showed a motorcycle taxi driver what she had written, a pic of the note she wrote is included here in case you want to take a girl there to buy her a nice treat (or maybe get a set for yourself?). he said he knew where the place was and took me to klongsan plaza, showed a few of the vendors there what lek had written and they directed me to the back of the place. found it, a little shop that does manicures and pedicures and hair and it turns out the braces are real orthodontic brackets and wires and really glued to the girls' teeth. later while walking around i found there are actually two shops that do fake braces in the same plaza. decided to get braces myself, always wanted them as a kid but couldn't afford them. price was only b600 total for top and bottom teeth, took around 15 minutes and when the little girl finished and i looked in the mirror i had quite a nice laugh at myself.
went out that night to soi cowboy then to np, had taken a quick look at both a day or two earlier but this time decided to spend some time relaxing and taking it all in. normally i have no trouble getting the attention of bargirls wherever i go but this time was different. when they called out to me "oooh, hansumman! welllcum" and "ooooh, i like you hair!" and such and i smiled a little, as soon as the girls saw the braces they flipped out! hahaha, squealing and giggling and generally peeing their pants, grabbing their friends and dragging them over to me to show them, surrounding me in a feeding frenzy in the street and of course this made me smile even bigger and caused even more squealing haha i felt like justin bieber hahahaha, all the bargirls asking me to show them, asking excitedly where i got them, how much i paid etc, a great icebreaker and a fun gimmick that got me way more attention and flirting from the ladies than i got on the previous night i went out barhopping without the braces. fun, cheap, and exciting for the ladies, of course it's not for everyone but worth a try and for those who are not afraid of looking a little silly (or a lot silly) i recommend it. of course if all of you get fake braces the novelty will quickly wear off for the girls.
twist: after i got home i found someone selling the slip-on style braces, available here for anyone who is interested in dressing their ladies up (i also learned the slip on jobs are illegal in thailand and that is why i couldn't find them!)
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took us$2500 cash with me for the trip (exclusive of airfare and hotel) , had around $500 left when i got home, enough to have some more fun! not sure how many women or pops, had a semi-serious goal before i left but i lost track and lost my notes so don't have an accurate count. i would guess maybe 40 women including premium massage joints, streetwalkers, craigslist finds, blowjob bars, the two losers from eden, the lovely ladies at devil's den, miscellaneous nameless oily / handjob ladies etc.
eh, don't really care what the final tally was, i had fun.
sorry if this report is too long. all in all a great trip, i am already planning the next one. will be staying much longer next time, at least 2 and possibly 3 weeks.