Isaan Region (including Udon Thani, KK, Khorat)

[QUOTE=Opebo]'Fie Dang', not Fang Dong. Fie pronounced like 'pie', and 'Dang' like 'dang it' in an old Western.[/QUOTE]
Soi Fang Dong ( ซอยแฝงดง ) ain't easy to find but once you've found the forest you've gone too far.

the owner of day & night bar demands in some places that, sexiest girls for udon they have. i have strolled all along the road from top mansion to the night market at prajak road. seems they are quite right with their demand. on my first entry in this place a wild girl rushed and crossed me was caught my eyes. but i’d taken already three girls before the evening starts, so i leave her to check around more.

while strolling around the bars nothing was fancy to me. loads of avg looking girls in all the bars and i tried hard to book someone but failed to bring any one on my test. as a result couple of beer glasses made me at the edge of drunken and derived me couple of glasses to leave half. retuned back to day & night to find the girl at first was on my eyes. it’s 10.0p.m. and i’m a fool for looking again such an attractive girl should be remain for me on this time. while sipping my glass in a bar middle of left raw (forget the name) seen a girl sitting with two more guys caught my fancy. awaiting for long time but failed to find the girl un-booked any more and decided to visit again the bars beside the alley of night market. here “mission finding nimo” completed surprisingly. the girl was calling another guy and ignored by him. right after that she smelled out of a dog with wet mouth full of salvia, that’s me. she was looking straight but not to me with a keen attention when i will step inside the bar and i did. the girl (see the pic-age21) flew me to the bar counter and start talking, surprisingly a fluent english, even i got no chances to open my mouth. i can’t kiss her to shut her mouth, isn’t it we are meeting first time? instead of that i ordered a san miguel for her. and opened a big smile as i didn’t have from pretty long time.

we drank and talked and my busy palm brushing continuously her revealed round leg. once she asked me hw old r u? i said it’s 50ish, i whispered in her year, still i can fu…she yelled out me too, i want ur.. she knocked on the middle of my two leg. o.k. i had enough, it’s time to barfine. how much? it’s 300bht and 1500bht(lt) for the girl, i agreed, it was 11.30p.m. she put a gogo dark glass on her eyes (she has implanted contact lance) and ordered me to take off my ass. may i buy some food from the night market, i asked her. she was so impatience and unrest on her walking for the wasting of time and me also was keen to enter in my room as early as possible. in the room what i never do, made a deep and hard kiss on her unwashed lips for a long time.

without sounding any word i entered in bathroom and she followed me speechless for wash. i revealed her clothes stopping eyes to her young nipples straight to me and thrown all of them in the room. no towels no shyness just resting her hands on my shoulder and allowed me for a detail wash on her except the eye part of the face. again a deep kiss on her washed spread lips, a hard suck on her nipples after wash. i took her on my hand and she leaned on my chest closing her eyes, just revealing my happiness that the girl is going make my journey to udon unexpectedly.

when i entered in her i feel a roaring grinding, rounding and mounting on me bursting in my head wild, wild and wild. i forget to change positions just ones i pulled her on the edge of the bed and continued what we were doing before.

i’v no complain why i did only once on that night. the truth is we were very tired and got sleep instantly for 8.0a.m. of the next day. a phone call arrived from bkk and it made a full stop for my 24hrs udon trip and i ran out for bus for bkk.

I’v seen a debate on a comment of Opebo “Stick Pattay rather then Udon” for mongering. There were many comments on this issue from many members including Goyave. On my short visit my own conception has been grown about the city. I think relativity in Patt and Udon is not an issue at all. I do agree with some members that if somebody has something to do other than mongering in that region or passing that region may be Udon is the best place for the mongers.

Patt got a permanent existence as one of the top places for mongering in the world. Girls from different nationalities, arriving here for business. Moreover the place is nearer to BKK. Even as a holiday destination peoples from all sector can arrive here within 1.5hrs only.

On the other hand Udon is not a holiday destination at all. I think for the girls the city fully depends on trafficking from the neighboring countries. On my Udon tour I’v meet 5 girls. Two says they are from Laos, two no reply (does Viet?) one says she is half Thai half Lao. There are many reasons to believe that the supply of girls is completely seasonal. For this reason I found Soi 7 is completely empty. The volume of migration making a very good impact on Udon mongering scenes. All the girls are not for Brothels, some are eligible for bar scenes also. So I can say Udon is very much unpredictable regarding qualities, quantities and there prices. When the city got good supply the price goes down and we can get versatile qualities also, but it’s for a time being period only. Because of, may be it’s a backup training city for the larger market in Thailand.

It will be wise to visit the city for mongering after having invitation from some one residing in Udon, who is experiencing the season with full moon.

[QUOTE=Mua Tur]I’v seen a debate on a comment of Opebo “Stick Pattay rather then Udon” for mongering. There were many comments on this issue from many members including Goyave.
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I think for the girls the city fully depends on trafficking from the neighboring countries...[/QUOTE]

I don't think that there's a debate here and I don't really disagree with Opebo, as Udon Thani is certainly not a paradise for every monger.

Pattaya is the place to go if you are a newbie or if you want to get laid with minimum hassles at a reasonable price. The P4P scene is very accessible and the atmosphere is usually friendly and relaxed. Actually, it's so easy there that you don't have to fetch a provider, it's the providers who will hunt you (well, mostly). The difficult thing is to try to sleep alone when you stay in this town, even if you don't know shit about Thailand and Thai language.

Bangkok is another great destination for newbies and people who want to get laid easily. Prices are higher than in Pattaya on average and the whole town is not a giant wh0rehouse, but its red districts are well-known and very easy to find.

Other tourist destinations (Phuket, Chiang Mai, Koh Samui, etc.) usually have a Farang-orientated P4P scene, more or less interesting, but where most girls can speak at least some basic English and are already accustomed to the foreigners' needs and requests.

In Udon Thani (and in the Isan region), the Farang-orientated P4P scene is not very interesting (IMHO). If you really want to enjoy the local scene, it's almost mandatory to speak some Thai language. And you have to know where the locals go, because for the most part, protitution is not visible here. Even the local freelancers usually dress themselves very conservatively (just like everybody else actually).

But the P4P girls available in Isan (especially in the local brothels) are usually younger and a lot more attractive (on average) than in Pattaya, Bangkok, and other tourist destinations. To find the same quality in looks elsewhere in Thailand, a foreigner has to pay a lot more money than in Isan.

Alas, most of the time, the quality of service is not on par with what is proposed in Pattaya (and other tourist destinations). The local girls are not very experienced, at least, they are usually not used to service foreign customers. More often than not, they won't allow anything else than a covered fuck, missionary style (even doggy or cow girl positions are not offered by certain providers). It requires some time and investigation to find a decent provider if you favor performance over looks, or some time and patience to teach and train a not very experienced local girl. Some of them are willing to learn and will try new things with a reasonable incentive.

That's why I believe that the Isan scene (especially in Udon Thani) is not that bad, but it is certainly not for every monger.

About [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], you might be surprised, but all the Lao and Khmer (in other parts of Isan) girls that I've met so far in the local brothels went there voluntarily. Ok, maybe they are helping their family in debt to reimburse a loan, but they are free to leave and come back to their country when they want. I don't say that there is no [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], but according to my own experience, it's not as widespread as many people think.

I have on several occasions taken different girls from local brothels to go in a place of my choice instead of doing the deed on premises and that was always possible. They usually have their passport with them when they go out of their working place. I also have several phone numbers of girls who used to work in a brothel in Northeastern Thailand that are now back in their country and who would like me to contact them when I am near their home main city. It's not exactly what would do a victim of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], I suppose.

I've found the bar scene in Udon Thani - particularly the quality and age of girls - to be enormously improved lately, though its still not really my preference. That said, this scene also much much smaller than Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Opebo]I've found the bar scene in Udon Thani. Particularly the quality and age of girls. To be enormously improved lately, though its still not really my preference. That said, this scene also much much smaller than Pattaya.[/QUOTE]there really isn't anything to compare. Pattaya has x million girls, or it at least feels like it. But living in Bangkok, it does little for me, as every time I am there I am constantly struck by the ratio of not in any way close to stunning girls to those who are, and always way to the negative. Pattaya may have cheaper prices, but that said, as someone who lives here and speaks decent Thai, I don't pay more than 1000 baht in Bangkok and have a very steady stream of excellent talent. Whereas for me, Udon is a breath of fresh air. The farang bars are not anything special, there aren't many girls, and not many stunners. But the Lao brothels are another story completely. There are certain houses where in my book, any of the ladies in there would be pulling 3-5000 baht a shot in Taniya Plaza or Rainbow or Baccara, yet in Udon they are available for 4-600 a go, with no bar fines, no drinks, no hassles. I assume if one lived in Udon, the mileage might get even better.

At any rate, Udon is a great spot to go spend a bit of time in, people are nice, food is good, hotels can be great value, and it makes for a very nice change from the overrun scene one often can find in Pattaya, Bangkok, or Phuket.

[QUOTE=Goyave]I don't think that there's a debate here and I don't really disagree with Opebo, as Udon Thani is certainly not a paradise for every monger.

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About [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], you might be surprised, but all the Lao and Khmer (in other parts of Isan) girls that I've met so far in the local brothels went there voluntarily. Ok, maybe they are helping their family in debt to reimburse a loan, but they are free to leave and come back to their country when they want. I don't say that there is no [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], but according to my own experience, it's not as widespread as many people think.

I have on several occasions taken different girls from local brothels to go in a place of my choice instead of doing the deed on premises and that was always possible. They usually have their passport with them when they go out of their working place. I also have several phone numbers of girls who used to work in a brothel in Northeastern Thailand that are now back in their country and who would like me to contact them when I am near their home main city. It's not exactly what would do a victim of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], I suppose.[/QUOTE]

It's a pleasure to hear that the girls r coming vouluntarily and most of them r legal.

[QUOTE=Oldian] But the Lao brothels are another story completely. There are certain houses where in my book, any of the ladies in there would be pulling 3-5000 baht a shot in Taniya Plaza or Rainbow or Baccara, yet in Udon they are available for 4-600 a go, with no bar fines, no drinks, no hassles. I assume if one lived in Udon, the mileage might get even better.

At any rate, Udon is a great spot to go spend a bit of time in, people are nice, food is good, hotels can be great value, and it makes for a very nice change from the overrun scene one often can find in Pattaya, Bangkok, or Phuket.[/QUOTE]


I will be there next month.Can you give me a recommendation of a good value, guest friendly hotel and how I can find the Lao brothels, please.

Thanks to all who posted info about Udon. Just spent a couple of days there as a sidetrip via Air Asia. Mongering wasn't the primary purpose, but nights were pretty much free, so I did some research based on previous postings. Noted places on Adulayet sois 2 & 7 and Soi Sai Faw Deng were still operating...look for barely opened doors and pink lighting inside. Or people eager to show you inside. They were starting at B400 for farangs, but could be talked down to B300 in latter case. Selection sometimes limited; 5+ would be a lot, and 1 or none not uncommon.

Further up the scale, the Banyan on Adulayet soi 7 wants B800 ST for biked-in girls (probably Lao) at their taxi rooms, even if you show up on foot without a tuk-tuk. B100 for room, 700 for lady, they said. Nicer rooms and more farang-oriented, though still a bit downscale. Maybe Thai people or those speaking more Thai than I do can get cheaper price.

Day & Night plaza still fine for a drink, though it looked like there were as many punters as girls on the 2 nights I went. The better lookers also might have semi-regular customers.

To pick up a bit on what others are saying, I think Udon Thani has a real potential niche. Bangkok is already basically ruined on budget mongering. Pattaya pricing is better, but the place is turning into a real monster with traffic and development, and there's still lots of "dumb" money from first-timers putting pressure on pricing (not to mention the occasional Navy shore leave). Something like 1 in 3 people who come to Thailand visit Pattaya on their trip.

Udon offers elbow room, few tourists and a good climate for maybe 3-4 months a year that roughly coincides with high season elsewhere. Costs are lower and there's just enough to do to stave off the terminal boredom found in other burgs.

So I think there's a case to be made for it becoming an alternative seasonal or even year-round base for those in the know.

[QUOTE=Spanish Main]I will be there next month.Can you give me a recommendation of a good value, guest friendly hotel and how I can find the Lao brothels, please.[/QUOTE]Top Mansion is good value at 370 baht a night, they are on the road with Day and Night and all the farang bars. Basically every hotel there is guest friendly. Lao brothels can be found on Adulyadej Road, soi 2, soi 7. Avoid overpaying.

[QUOTE=Oldian] Lao brothels can be found on Adulyadej Road, soi 2, soi 7. Avoid overpaying.[/QUOTE]
What is overpaying?

soi 7 asks 500-700 (depending on house)

soi 2 asks 400

soi fai dang 300

Are these prices right?

Did Top Mansion raise their prices? It was 350 till a few weeks ago.

The prices are as Amjeck lists, though in (actually just off) Soi 2 there is a higher end house which is 600. Slightly better looking girls, and better rooms - many rooms even have air-con and I've been told a few have hot water. It always seems to have a lot of customers.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Did Top Mansion raise their prices? It was 350 till a few weeks ago.
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I was quoted 370 I believe. I'll be there next month.

Does anybody know anything about Koh Chang?

[QUOTE=Ploughman]Thanks to all who posted info about Udon. Just spent a couple of days there as a sidetrip via Air Asia. Mongering wasn't the primary purpose, but nights were pretty much free, so I did some research based on previous postings...So I think there's a case to be made for it becoming an alternative seasonal or even year-round base for those in the know.[/QUOTE]Great report full of useful information. I think I might venture up that way soon!