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[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Haha! I don't think [i]anyone[/i] in Moscow would mistake Stravinsky for Russian! Hope you don't take offense to that, Strav, but it's the Gods-honest truth.[/QUOTE]LOL! No offense taken, P. :)

However, you may be surprised... While no one would take me for a Russian, no one that I have met in Eastern Europe has ever pegged me as an American. Typically Baltic states, sometimes Poland or maybe German, but never an American.

To be pegged as an American right off the bat, [b]that[/b] would be offensive!

Dear Strav, I thank for your honest reply.

I need to remind prostitution is a business only: there is no rules or morality about that. I didn't decide that. That is what exactly prostitutes think and behave in reality. Tender girls and sweet words are part of the business: who believes them, he is like a person who believes Santa Claus.

Therefore I want to buy a service for a honest price, I want that service is in good quality, I don't want to be cheated.

About swallow blowjobs, the reality is the opposite of what people think. In prostitution history, prostitutes work for (deepthroat) blowjobs above all, in the past there were no condoms, and therefore all blowjobs were swallowed. Now prostitutes are still used to work in that way. And I am very surprised to read here men talking about blowjobs with or without condoms! All my (Italian) married work colleagues when they talk about (and get) blowjobs, they always mean swallow blowjobs "because for a married man it doesn't make sense to get less sex than his wife"! (It is interesting like married men are perverted much more than singles: in fact married men are usually interested in things such as fistings, prolapses and other sadic treatments on prostitutes).

For information of this forum, a young vagina can receive up to three whole hand inside, and a young anus can receive up to two whole hands or half arm (about 35 centimetres) inside (with or without anesthetic cream such as Luan).

I know a logic rule about prostitution: if a woman usually makes swallow blowjobs, it is not sure she is used to uncovered vaginal and anal; instead if a woman usually makes uncovered vaginal and anal, it is sure she is used to swallow blowjobs. Therefore this is an easy rule to understand if a prostitute is surely a lier (about this matter).

At last, I want to remind everything I wrote is my personal statistics from my real experience, that is not a chit-chat or a philosophizing as most of men here.

And I want to reply a question of yours: yes, my first Ukrainian (with a Siberian origin) prostitute, met here in Italy, was young (19 years old), clean, beautiful, smart, sweet, piggish and she was used, from 13 years old, in Ukraine, to make things such as swallows, facials, double and triple penetration, multiple fistings etc. Unfortunately, this is the reality, not what people think.

Moreover, if Ukrainians and Russians always do that abroad, why couldn't they do that in their motherlands??? (Of course, they have learned that in their motherlands.)

I want to explain my last sentence in my previous report: "That's how to ask men: how many of yours always get a karoleski miniet in Moscow for 30$?". The successful of a monger is measured by this "sexual unit", the karoleski miniet aka the deepthroat swallow blowjob, with 1/1.5 blow per second, and for an average duration of 20 minutes (some short pauses are allowed meanwhile). If a man get a karoleski miniet immediately with no bargaining or very little bargaining, then that man is a very successful monger. Otherwise he is just a cheated man.

Anyway, ask pimps about this matter and they will reply you exactly what I wrote.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]

Herein lies the key to your disappointment, friend-o. You're expecting that young, attractive pros will accommodate your fetishes (swallow BJs and fisting) at bargain rates. NFW. Not in Moscow, and most likely, not anywhere - at least anywhere I've engaged in p4p: Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, China, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam, Mexico, Philippians, US, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Germany, Greece...

First off, with rare exception, salons (at least in Moscow) are CBJ only. Tolerate it, despise it, avoid it like the plague... that's just the way it is. As for swallowing - well, I can't say that I've had a single pro here do it. Ironically, offers of BBFS seem to be more common. That said, almost [b]all[/b] my freebie girls have swallowed without my even asking. Might be an avenue for you to consider. Second, girls able to take a guy's fist are usually... how to so it nicely... a bit [i]older[/i]. Finding a beautiful, young, big-titted dyev able to take a guy's fist [i]at any price[/i] will prove to be a challenge. That said, I have found one. Read my posts carefully, and you'll discover who, and where you can find her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]The successful of a monger is measured by this "sexual unit", the karoleski miniet aka the deepthroat swallow blowjob, with 1/1.5 blow per second, and for an average duration of 20 minutes (some short pauses are allowed meanwhile). If a man get a karoleski miniet immediately with no bargaining or very little bargaining, then that man is a very successful monger. Otherwise he is just a cheated man.[/QUOTE]Ah, yes... the Korolevski minyet, "the King's blow job"

OK, I think I understand this. Let's see...

1/1.5 blow/sec for 20 minutes = 1200 seconds = 1200 to (1200/1.5=800) 800 blow for 30.00 = .025 to .0375 dollars/blow, right? But, wait a minute, some short pauses are allowed, so we need to recalculate.

If we assume a 2 sec. pause every, let's say, 20 blows (the King can afford to be generous, after all) what we have then is anywhere from 1200-(2 * 60) = 1080 blows to 800-(2 * 40) = 720 blows, which changes our original calculation to .0277 and .0416 dollars/blow, respectively.

So, then, all I have to do in order to make sure that I am not a cheated monger is to negotiate with the girl for no more than a maximum of .0416 dollars/blow, and I should be getting good value for my money.

I think this will not be a problem, assuming that I still want the blow job by the time I finish the negotiation. :)

With regard to swallowing, I'm not sure I understand your fascination. Certainly you don't believe that the girl is so impressed with your manhood that you are the only man whose cum she will swallow??? If she will swallow yours, then she will, most likely, swallow everyone else's. Even mine! :D

I'm sure you're a wonderful man Aco, very diplomatic, with an angelic face and a pleasant demeanor. Please excuse me, but I'm not sure I want to swap bodily fluids with a girl who has been swallowing your cum, or anyone else's. And you shouldn't either.

Arrividerci

At least, you are lovely.

There is no room to reply about any point of yours, because I have got at least one story for each of them.

Anyway it is sure, all men, every man, each man got a karoleski miniet for the first time, he was shocked for some days. Therefore this is a method to understand who gets real sex and who gets a plastic doll.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Ah, yes... the Korolevski minyet, "the King's blowjob"

OK, I think I understand this. Let's see...

1/1.5 blow/sec for 20 minutes = 1200 seconds = 1200 to (1200/1.5=800) 800 blow for 30.00 = .025 to .0375 dollars/blow, right? But, wait a minute, some short pauses are allowed, so we need to recalculate.

If we assume a 2 sec. pause every, let's say, 20 blows (the King can afford to be generous, after all) what we have then is anywhere from 1200-(2 * 60) = 1080 blows to 800-(2 * 40) = 720 blows, which changes our original calulation to .0277 and .0416 dollars/blow, respectively.

So, then, all I have to do in order to make sure that I am not a cheated monger is to negotiate with the girl for no less than a minimum of .0416 dollars/blow, and I should be getting good value for my money.

I think this will not be a problem, assuming that I still want the blow job by the time I finish the negotiation. :)

With regard to swallowing, I'm not sure I understand your fascination. Certainly you don't believe that the girl is so impressed with your manhood that you are the only man whose cum she will swallow??? If she will swallow yours, then she will, most likely, swallow everyone else's. Even mine! :D

I'm sure you're a wonderful man Aco, very diplomatic, with an angelic face and a pleasant demeanor. Please excuse me, but I'm not sure I want to swap bodily fluids with a girl who has been swallowing your cum, or anyone else's. And you shouldn't either.

Arrividerci[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]I need to remind prostitution is a business only: there is no rules or morality about that. I didn't decide that. That is what exactly prostitutes think and behave in reality. Tender girls and sweet words are part of the business: who believes them, he is like a person who believes Santa Claus. QUOTE]

What do you mean no Santa!?! Who told you that? Its a lie.

Regards "no rules or morality", theres plenty of rules, the girls and clients invent their own rules i.e. no swallowing, kissing, condoms only, no Acolonizer, no kissing etc... Whats right for one girl or client may be wrong for another.

Prehaps if a girl is belligerent or cynical that is a reflection on the client.
Girls often reflect back what the client is like. That can be a positive to.

Cheers Nickc

[QUOTE=Nickc]Regards "no rules or morality", theres plenty of rules, the girls and clients invent their own rules i.e. no swallowing, kissing, condoms only, no Acolonizer...[/QUOTE]

No Acolonizer... Now that's a rule to live by.

[QUOTE=Nickc]...
Girls often reflect back what the client is like. That can be a positive too...[/QUOTE]

Hey Nickc,

very wise and well said !

That's interesting, people here have no ability in astraction. So it needs a material example.

A typical situation is the following: a young and nice prostitute makes an uncovered deepthroat-blowjob with a "facial", and she licks (and swallows) the cum taking from her fingers, for 10$ from a local "good" 55 years-old customer. After 30 minutes, she meets you, and she gets 100$ from you for a covered blowjob and a pussy fucking. What is the best sex? What is the best deal? It is sure, there are no doubts which one . . . but if you are still thinking "it depends on customer's expectations", then I understand why prostitutes are rich with no effort.

[QUOTE=Nickc][QUOTE=Acolonizer]I need to remind prostitution is a business only: there is no rules or morality about that. I didn't decide that. That is what exactly prostitutes think and behave in reality. Tender girls and sweet words are part of the business: who believes them, he is like a person who believes Santa Claus. QUOTE]

What do you mean no Santa!?! Who told you that? Its a lie.

Regards "no rules or morality", theres plenty of rules, the girls and clients invent their own rules i.e. no swallowing, kissing, condoms only, no Acolonizer, no kissing etc... Whats right for one girl or client may be wrong for another.

Prehaps if a girl is belligerent or cynical that is a reflection on the client.
Girls often reflect back what the client is like. That can be a positive to.

Cheers Nickc[/QUOTE]

By the way, the previous customer could be a dog:

[url]http://www.azbukasexa.ru/view/node-1710.html?tx2[/url]

And it is sure the dog pays less than you. But this is not important because you are glad the same.

[QUOTE=Nickc][QUOTE=Acolonizer]I need to remind prostitution is a business only: there is no rules or morality about that. I didn't decide that. That is what exactly prostitutes think and behave in reality. Tender girls and sweet words are part of the business: who believes them, he is like a person who believes Santa Claus. QUOTE]

What do you mean no Santa!?! Who told you that? Its a lie.

Regards "no rules or morality", theres plenty of rules, the girls and clients invent their own rules i.e. no swallowing, kissing, condoms only, no Acolonizer, no kissing etc... Whats right for one girl or client may be wrong for another.

Prehaps if a girl is belligerent or cynical that is a reflection on the client.
Girls often reflect back what the client is like. That can be a positive to.

Cheers Nickc[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Acolonizer] for 10$ from a local "good" 55 years-old customer.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]
I am a very diplomatic boy, with an angelic face, with a good-manner, on thirties, well-groomed.

[/QUOTE]

Cheers Acoloniser.

Thanks for report. Please do share with us where you receive $10 blow jobs,
that would be a good report.

Cheers Nickc

p.s. how did you age from 'thirties' to '55 years old' in 3 days?

That was a typical example, that was a typical example, that was a typical example, do you understand now?

That's not about me!

[QUOTE=Nickc]Cheers Acoloniser.

Thanks for report. Please do share with us where you receive $10 blow jobs,
that would be a good report.

Cheers Nickc

p.s. how did you age from 'thirties' to '55 years old' in 3 days?[/QUOTE]

I created an account on Mamba, I couldn't before because my understanding of Russian is non-existent. So I have been wondering, have any of you had success in finding girls for short relationships, etc?

Anybody knows where we can find Toshkas in Moscow today?

What's the usual price?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Toptraveler1]Anybody knows where we can find Toshkas in Moscow today?

What's the usual price?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Tochka or neither taxi driver will understand what you want ;)

There are a lot of point ( tochka in russian ) where they are, in this forum to pick up tochka is not so common as it was about 4 years ago, so not much updated info.

However, every taxi driver is updated about it, so start early evening, something as 21h, negotiate in advance with taxi driver the price and take your time to choose the right one you like at the price you think is right too.

And do not forget to report us, even better is you will take some pics of her :D