Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Vector313;2754414] But I'm not in here trying to use that as justification of why pattaya is cheaper because one girl works soi 6 making guys like you pay then uses that money to go grocery shopping and cook breakfast for me the next day. or my other gf who is a restaurant waitress comes from work in the evenings with my dinner from her own pocket money because she enjoys netflix and chill and not being a sex worker.

I have fuck buddies/ friends with benefits back in Atlanta too that I don't pay at all. [/QUOTE]Is anyone else confused why a Mega-Chad Sex God would be complaining in a P4 P forum that Pattaya is too expensive and poor value while supposedly getting endless free sex in Pattaya from "non-sex workers" because- you know. Mega Chad Sex God? Personally I would be hyping the city up if that was my designation. To start with I wouldn't go all the way around the world to date supposed civilian waitresses in a city known for sex workers- but maybe I do things bass-ackwards or am not just looking for an argument. To each their own.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2754297]I'm going to assume you are from California hence your tagline, but in Atlanta where I live $400 per hour is porn star prices. Girls in Atlanta of the quality of soi 6 girls are going to cost you $80 - $150 per hour in ATL. A $400 girl in ATL is basically the same as going to one of those walking street russian gogos and getting the best girl in there. So again, factoring the plane ticket and inconvenience and prices are comparable. I can't speak for the west coast though.

As far as the safety concerns you are correct, but again, I will restate that there are other destinations closer to home in the caribean and latin America that offer the same safety and value as thailand with better looking women.[/QUOTE]ATL ass sounds a lot cheaper than Cali ass. Of course Cali is more expensive than everywhere. The nice thing for guys on the west coast is Tijuana is right there, that's what got me through the pandemic days as the Mexico land border never closed.

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Full of 9's and 10's, all nude all the time, Best bargin in Gentleman s Clubs.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2754419]Is anyone else confused why a Mega-Chad Sex God would be complaining in a P4 P forum that Pattaya is too expensive and poor value while supposedly getting endless free sex in Pattaya from "non-sex workers" because- you know. Mega Chad Sex God? Personally I would be hyping the city up if that was my designation. To start with I wouldn't go all the way around the world to date supposed civilian waitresses in a city known for sex workers- but maybe I do things bass-ackwards or am not just looking for an argument. To each their own.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with this. If you're a Chad / Tyrone getting sex for free in your western country, then why are you a monger abroad?

Let's be honest, most punters are punters because they can't sniff an ass back home, so the only alternative is punting. I'm not ashamed to admit that's why I punt.

But if I was a Chad back home I wouldn't be basing where I travel to on where I can punt.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2754419]Is anyone else confused why a Mega-Chad Sex God would be complaining in a P4 P forum that Pattaya is too expensive and poor value while supposedly getting endless free sex in Pattaya from "non-sex workers" because- you know. Mega Chad Sex God? Personally I would be hyping the city up if that was my designation. To start with I wouldn't go all the way around the world to date supposed civilian waitresses in a city known for sex workers- but maybe I do things bass-ackwards or am not just looking for an argument. To each their own.[/QUOTE]There's always more to these Posts.

[QUOTE=Ehs183;2754294]It's really interesting to me to read the lamenting going on.

OMG. It's called macroeconomics.

Thailand's real GDP has grown from $1900/ per capita to $7500/ per capita since 2001 or about 400%. People are wealthier there now and there is more opportunity for the young women inside and outside the sex industry. The avg western OECD country per capita GDP has grown by 70-100% in the same period.

This isn't hard stuff. It's easy to see that prices will go up, and / or quality will go down for services. The pushing of drinks is a reaction to this. Like you said, rent / overhead / talent prices have increased and to keep margin, the owners have to raise revenue to offset it. They can't go crazy with the barfines or the girls won't come, and raising patron drink prices keep mongers out.

I am lucky, my income has increased 9 X since 2001, so comparatively I still find it obscenely cheap.[/QUOTE]Your post missed the overall point I was making. With the price increases, other countries are eclipsing Thailand as the best destination to visit for our hobby at the moment. If you want to come to Thailand and drop more than you would in an FKK for an average experience with a farm girl from Issan, then be my guest. Thats the point. The quality is way down, the prices are up and the venues themselves are not as fun as they used to be because the entire dynamic has changed.

As I said I am not a budget traveller.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2754415]It's a logical fallacy because your individual points rewards situation does not apply to the average punter traveler's budget. It's not even worth discussing in general cost analysis of the conversation. The only thing I can agree with you on is the shitting where you eat part having a cost but only each individual can quantify that cost depending on their own personal situation.[/QUOTE]Then the average US based punter traveler is clueless, and has no idea how to extract value from credit cards, point travel, and elite status. This is not hard stuff. Apply for a credit card, spend 2-5 k on it, collect 60-100 miles or points. Use those points to travel for close to free to Asia / EU / wherever. In the last 30 months I have racked sign up bonuses amounting to 855 K of amex points, chase points, and airline miles. All for spending $$ on everyday expenses. (And still keeping a 827 FICO 8 score as of today).

A round trip economy class ticket from the US to South Asia will cost 55-70 K round trip in miles / points depending on the program. The EU will cost 45-60 K.

The reasonable average Joe making median wage can most likely get one-two overseas flights for punting trips for the taxes and fees portion by just strategically applying for credit cards and getting bonuses. They just need a FICO above 675 and be able to spend $1 K / month of normal spend on a credit card.

Pattaya has been in a death spiral since 1973. It's the natural condition for Pattaya. Meanwhile you can bang young ladies for $25, and then post that Pattaya is no fun any more.

I am still inviting ladies to my condo for 2000 baht for drinks, other activities up to them. It's interesting when a new lady comes, typically a friend of a previous visitor. Strangely, I am on a streak where ladies want ass fucking, which is rare in Thailand.

One of the benefits of having ladies come drink is they often get to the point where they tell the truth. One lady I know has a customer who pays her by the month, and she is supposed to visit him every day. In reality, she weasels out of her visits when possible, and bragged to me that she only fucks him three times a week. Somehow, she is going to Koh Lipe with me next week for three days, so her customer is paying her to go with me. And her Thai husband will take care of her kids. Nice.

I can't tell you how many bargirls are victims of scams by their customers. They are as stupid in that regard as newbie Farangs in Pattaya. The usual scam is a guy promising to sponsor a bargirl, but paying her tiny money when he is with her in Pattaya. Then he goes home and blocks her.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2754418]I was there last month and I can tell you that the 50 Euros session is a thing of the past. It is now commonly 100 Euros for a 30 min session, plus the extras if one chooses to partake.[/QUOTE]Perusing the FKK forums on ISG, the 30 min rates are indeed now 100 Euros instead of 50 Euros.

I haven't frequented an FKK since pre-Covid, but judging by the commentary online they've gone downhill since based on rates and quality of women. In addition, Germany this time of year is unappealling due to the cold weather and the inflated hotel prices due to the energy crisis and inflation. Germany shouldn't be a consideration for a monger right now given these things IMO.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2754419]Is anyone else confused why a Mega-Chad Sex God would be complaining in a P4 P forum that Pattaya is too expensive and poor value while supposedly getting endless free sex in Pattaya from "non-sex workers" because- you know. Mega Chad Sex God? Personally I would be hyping the city up if that was my designation. To start with I wouldn't go all the way around the world to date supposed civilian waitresses in a city known for sex workers- but maybe I do things bass-ackwards or am not just looking for an argument. To each their own.[/QUOTE]Stating facts is not complaining nor saying its too expensive. Obviously, I travel here for my own reasons outside of sex and bars. I'm just stating the facts of the USA traveler that Pattaya is poor value if you are only coming for sex and bars.

Even if we throw out the free pussy angle, even pay-for-play is comparable. Even quick dirty math from Atlanta you can see for the 2-week millionaire it doesn't add up. Let's just say a round trip flight is $1000 from ATL to BKK. Then between pussy and hotel/room accommodation about $100 per day even without alcohol and food included. That puts you at $1400 for 2 weeks /14 days. That's 2400 total flight/accomdation/girls for two weeks not including alcohol and food. So $200 per day in costs even before eating and drinking.

Stay in USA and sign up for any sugar baby website like seeking or hookup website like Bumble or Tinder that compares to ThaiFriendly. Most young college girls, many of them very hot, are on these sites and will gladly accept $200 per visit to their sugar daddy. You can literally get laid in the comfort of your own home for $200 a day without the hassle of flying to thailand and dealing with soi 6 level girls.

So like I said, Pattaya is good for the long-term tourist or retiree. But Pattaya makes no sense for the 2-week millionaire from the USA and that's not even considering the options of Latin America, Africa, and Eastern Bloc Europe.

Don't hate me, hate the economy. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2754418]I was there last month and I can tell you that the 50 Euros session is a thing of the past. It is now commonly 100 Euros for a 30 min session, plus the extras if one chooses to partake.[/QUOTE]OUCH! RIP Sharks and Sakura. Thanks for that update, I'll be sure to adjust my price calculations.

Guys,

I'm visiting thailand for first time and am mostly into MPs, will take Indies if clean, hygiene.

I'm planning to stay for 3 4 days in Thailand.

Kindly suggest on.

1. how many days should I spend in Bangkok and Pattaya where can get good looking, decent place to monger.

2. well known mps.

Any additional suggestions appreciated.

Pm is open.

I am detecting the beginning of High Season, by monitoring the eagerness of ladies to come to my condo. I am seeing some last minute cancelations, as ladies get better customers. And less messages from bargirls asking to come to the condo.

I am sure that this will be the busiest High Season ever. I will admit to the naysayers that the bars may be busier due to there being fewer bars than before Covid, but for those who can't find an open seat at PinUp, that doesn't really matter.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2754469]Stating facts is not complaining nor saying its too expensive. Obviously, I travel here for my own reasons outside of sex and bars. I'm just stating the facts of the USA traveler that Pattaya is poor value if you are only coming for sex and bars.

Even if we throw out the free pussy angle, even pay-for-play is comparable. Even quick dirty math from Atlanta you can see for the 2-week millionaire it doesn't add up. Let's just say a round trip flight is $1000 from ATL to BKK. Then between pussy and hotel/room accommodation about $100 per day even without alcohol and food included. That puts you at $1400 for 2 weeks /14 days. That's 2400 total flight/accomdation/girls for two weeks not including alcohol and food. So $200 per day in costs even before eating and drinking.

Stay in USA and sign up for any sugar baby website like seeking or hookup website like Bumble or Tinder that compares to ThaiFriendly. Most young college girls, many of them very hot, are on these sites and will gladly accept $200 per visit to their sugar daddy. You can literally get laid in the comfort of your own home for $200 a day without the hassle of flying to thailand and dealing with soi 6 level girls.

So like I said, Pattaya is good for the long-term tourist or retiree. But Pattaya makes no sense for the 2-week millionaire from the USA and that's not even considering the options of Latin America, Africa, and Eastern Bloc Europe.

Don't hate me, hate the economy. Don't hate the player, hate the game.[/QUOTE]You are doing a wonderful job of discouraging mongers from coming to Pattaya, so there are more ladies for you.

No matter, the vast majority of mongers who come to Pattaya don't read this forum, so they will come once High Season is upon us in earnest.

You may truly think that mongering in the US is somehow comparable to Pattaya, but I have an excess of cheap pussy at far lower prices than you quote, and I overpay. My problem is lack of time, and lack of ability to fuck all day, not lack of ladies.

Value or Not?

As for the current debate on the value of Pattaya compared to your home country or the parts of the world for mongering. One must not forget about the illusion factor or entertainment factor. Walking around, holding hands, with a 19 year old village girl, thinking you are in love and everything is rosy with world is priceless. Same like being old as dirt and going to a night club with loud Thai techno music you don't recognize, almost seizuring from the lasers, but you still are a Rockstar. Same just like the illusion of being a millionaire when you are only spending 2,000 USD in 2 weeks is also priceless. This is what Pattaya offers. These are how lifetime memories are made. Let us not forget, that regret because naivety is what makes it all memorable. The escape from everyday life has no price.

[QUOTE=ChimpoChinn;2753940]10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1's. We need Photos.

In Aug I walked up and down Soi 6 about 5 time,. Couldn't even spot a 5...[/QUOTE]Everybody knows that Soi 6, you need to walk up and down 6 times, not 5, to spot 9's and 10's. They will magically appear. Thats' why it's called Soi 6, not Soi 5.