Bangkok Reports

I had a gorgeous, doe eyed, sleek-necked Ethiopian girl out of the CM2 club during it's heydays many moons ago. She was in the company of a greedy old lady who was pimping her out.

Spoke excellent English and made up for her lack of expertise with sheer horniness and a desire to please.

Broke the bank but satisfied an itch that needed scratching.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1928379]I think I met the same girl on the corner of Cowboy and Soi 23 one night. She told me her name was Michelle K from Tanzania. She pronounced Tanzania in a unique way I never heard before. Tan Zanya. Normally I have absolutely no interest in African girls in Thailand as most do not meet my spec, but this girl looked great with her light cafe latte skin color, her very sexy face, and her Thai-esque body type (small natural breasts and a corresponding nice little ass). She gave me her cell number and I texted her a couple of times, but I had only 3 nights left in my trip so I could not and did not want to extricate myself from my scheduled farewell dates with my 4 favorite BKK girls. I guess luck was on my side with this one.

Interestingly, my #1 gal in all of Asia is a mixed race Sudanese / Filipina born and raised in the PI. Lookwise she is a very cute spinner with a very tight little Filipina body. The only giveaway as to her natural origins is her high hair line common with some Ethiopian girls, her darker than ordinary Filipina complexion and her black nipples. Otherwise she is all Filipina in looks and personality. I have been seeing her for 2.5 years now and I am planing on taking her and my #2 favorite gal in all of Asia (LOL) on a beach holiday to Palawan when I return to Asia in 2017..[/QUOTE]

Very well put.

To put things in perspective this whole thing for our of focus on the subject I was trying to figure out. No I won't be buying a house for her, noninwont be buying a diamond ring. Can get exclusivity with her buy paying 1 Month bar fine but that's not the point.

But like Parkville summed it perfectly her joke could hold truth as she was drunk on the first night and asked me to marry her but I guessed this is how these girls would hold a conversation.

But it's not the wet spot that makes one consider a relationship it's the attention they give and they are pros at it. Last week I would wait for a like on my post. But again I can't thank you all enough whether you were rude or concerned it's just I lost the perspective, I am enjoying this long distance relation and the video sex is pretty cool.

But my question minimally I was trying to get at was. And from the answers I got was. Bar girl = working girl in a brothel.

I just thought there is a difference between a girl who goes out with a guy for LT or st and a girl who stays in a room and gets fucked by a large number of men daily.

So if this bar girl goes to diff countries to stay in a room and have guys come in one after the other so why even work in a bar. Deep down I know the answer, it's like the person who was rude said don't get too attached.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1928408]Really guys. Why compromise your standards? Would you buy a woman who has a 6th grade education, does not speak your language, and has a parasitic family a house back in your home country? Probably not. So why do it here? Most of these Isaan gals are as sophisticated as a gal from the West Virginia hollers. Difference is they are cuter, have all their teeth, and are most likely not a product of inbreeding. But dudes come here, stick it in, and in six seconds they are "in love. " And most grow to regret it. Don't get me wrong. I have friends over the years that have had successful long term relationships with bar girls. But all of those gals were motivated to do other things and placed their "farang" above their family. And all but one did not already have a kid.

Honestly ask yourself; what is she bringing to the table? If it just the wet spot between her legs and a nice disposition you are probably headed down the wrong track.[/QUOTE]

Another visit to Thermae today.

Called at Darling Massage first but nothing attracted me. Faces not pretty enough.

Very soon spotted 3 to 4 promising looking girls with cute faces. In amongst a sea of normally fairly good looking girls. Of course my problem is nose jobs turned me off most girls immediately. Focussing on two girls, checking them out from a distance. First had very lovely face but sitting with a bag on her lap. Quite possibly same girl I admired on a previous visit. Very soon was taken by a Japanese man (most likely), and standing up, I could now see her thighs and ass were too big for me. No matter. I turned my attention to another cutie much slimmer standing with her friend. Her friend clearly had nose job and sillies.

Found Uncle Volodya in there (Not sure I have spelled this right). He was much younger than me. Somehow I had expected someone much older. LOL By the time we finished chatting and I went back to the 2nd girl, she was not there. Her friend told me she had been taken. Okay So I start to realise the girls I really like, are also liked by others. If not acting fast could miss out.

Found a third probably natural beauty type standing with her friend. Decided to chat to her (before was too late). She was so shy she could not even look me in the face, when I asked if she liked Farangs at all. I tried to reassure her not to be shy and she could speak to me in Thai. Anyway she eventually blabbed that she could not go with me. No reason given, which is very Thai way. Her friend had a very long discussion with a Japanese guy and they eventually went. I don't know exactly what was negotiated or discussed. Maybe the girls wanted to be fed first. LOL.

I soon found that the 2nd girl I had admired, had returned. No more than 20 minutes gone I guess. This time I would talk to her. I thought I would stir a little, and say "that was very quick". I then asked again if she liked Farangs at all. She replied that yes she can go with Farangs but that the price is higher. Her manner was not exactly sweet. I wasn't exactly getting a possible GFE type feeling from her. I asked her how much more for Farangs, and she replied with 3500 Baht. I suppose I should not have been surprised, however my previous Thermae girl never discussed the price, and I paid significantly less. I would not repeat her however due to lack of kissing and lack of tolerating DATY, etc. Despite being okay Fuck in doggy position.

I looked over some more girls, but was having trouble finding the right figure unhidden enough to make out the shape properly. One beauty looked disinterested in all proceedings. Eventually I decided I had wasted enough time and moved on. There were girls clearly keen on me, but they were not the ones I liked.

Ended up latching on to a Nana freelancer who only wanted 1200 Baht. She was very sweet compared to the girls I chatted with in Thermae. Much better vibe from her. She was also skinny, so I knew the tits might not be very good at all. Turned out to be saggy mummy tits. She had got pregnant at 15 years old and now claimed to be 24. Thankfully her BBBJ was pretty good, once she understood to go slow. She asked for CBJ but I declined that and promised not to blow in her mouth. Fuck was nice too. Not really fully GFE. Nice pussy though. Repeat? Probably not. Due to the bad tits, and generally too scrawny figure.

Had a drink in Stumble Inn afterwards with an ex Crazy House girl who just started work there. They had a band. It was playing some songs I liked, e. G. "Money for Nothing" (Dire Straits / Sting) but they were really bad. The lead singer was too old and could not sing, the tempo was wrong and sound poor. I suppose a typical shitty Thai band. Did not really spy any stunning girls in there, except for one girl, too well dressed in black sitting with two Farangs. She was with the customers, not working there. Bummer. I would easily have returned for her any time. She was really stunning and that was without even seeing her figure that clearly.

Pretty dull night all up. At least I got a cheap fuck in the end. I failed to mention a few other places where I went looking. I could easily have gone and got my very cute very reliable full on GFE Billboard girl, if all else failed.

I start to get bored with the Thermae already. Not as easy to find the right girl as in a bar with girls undressed, for me. Hidden bodies is a problem for me.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1928481]
Very soon spotted 3 to 4 promising looking girls with cute faces. In amongst a sea of normally fairly good looking girls. [/QUOTE]Apologies, I did not make it clear that this was at the Thermae (not at Darling).

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1928481]Another visit to Thermae today.

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I soon found that the 2nd girl I had admired, had returned. No more than 20 minutes gone I guess. This time I would talk to her. I thought I would stir a little, and say "that was very quick". I then asked again if she liked Farangs at all. She replied that yes she can go with Farangs but that the price is higher. Her manner was not exactly sweet. I wasn't exactly getting a possible GFE type feeling from her. I asked her how much more for Farangs, and she replied with 3500 Baht. I suppose I should not have been surprised, however my previous Thermae girl never discussed the price, and I paid significantly less. I would not repeat her however due to lack of kissing and lack of tolerating DATY, etc. Despite being okay Fuck in doggy position.[/QUOTE]Syzy, did you find out from that girl how much of a "farang upcharge" her requested 3,500 baht represented? Did she indicate it was 1,000 baht more for a farang than for the (most likely) Japanese guy she spent about 20 minutes with earlier? 500 baht more? Or did you have a feeling about it one way or another without her saying it exactly?

I think it is really interesting that she (and perhaps more of those girls?) is not buying into the bit about Japanese customers being the ones that pay more than the farangs but rather that farangs ought to pay more than the Japanese or other Asians. I haven't bought into that bit either. So now we have a Thermae girl who feels her looks and "quality" are fine enough to demand more from a farang than from a Japanese customer. And that lofty "farang upcharge" only brings it to, at least to me, a decidedly unshocking 3,500 baht.

Not that I would be just fine and dandy with paying 3,500 baht for ST with her. You weren't either obviously. But from what I've heard and, as I said, not fully bought into, I thought those happily over-paying Japanese guys where throwing around 3,500 baht or more for STs left and right for even middling or just above average Thermae girls much less one that was attractive enough to grab your and so many other customers' interest, perhaps the most attractive girl in the room that night.

But apparently that is not the case at all.

Hi,

I was wondering if staying at hotel Lebua is a total bust for mongering in that area? Is their enough to keep me busy around their until I move to the landmark? Want to try to stay at Lebua for New Years for a few days, and then move on! Any and all info on what to do in that area for 4 days or so would be great and appreciated!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1928521]Syzy, did you find out from that girl how much of a "farang upcharge" her requested 3,500 baht represented? Did she indicate it was 1,000 baht more for a farang than for the (most likely) Japanese guy she spent about 20 minutes with earlier? 500 baht more? Or did you have a feeling about it one way or another without her saying it exactly?
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Regular price at Thermae is 2000-2500 ST. I'm sure there are girls less than 2000 as well, especially near closing time when they want to seal a deal rather than move on to another venue. Seems like this girl wanted 1000 extra. The Farang upcharge may have only been from this girl as I do not believe the previous girls Syzy went with had this upcharge. Girls at Thermae can charge whatever they want. They are freelancers and some non pros.

Not implying this was the case for Syzy but often a girl throwing out a higher number may be because the girl was not interested in going with that particular customer. Did this girl express interest in you before you talked to her, Syzy?

The Farang surcharge isn't the big issue. Even worse is I am finding that many girls limit ST to 1 hour likely because they know they can turn over a Japanese guy in less than that. It is important to ask Thermae girls how long ST is.

Someone with Syzy's taste would definitely have a more difficult time finding a girl at Thermae than I would. Of the younger girls, there are definitely more post facial surgery girls made to look Japanese / Westernized than natural Thai look. It's why I can easily walk into Thermae and find 30-40 girls. I can't say that about any other place in Pattaya or Bangkok. The closest would be a VERY good night at Sensations in Pattaya or Baccara in Pattaya/Bangkok.

Uncle V told me the lineup was better after midnight than when you guys were there earlier.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1928408]Honestly ask yourself; what is she bringing to the table? If it just the wet spot between her legs and a nice disposition you are probably headed down the wrong track.[/QUOTE]Advice of the decade! I wish this could be a sticky right at the top of the thread blinking away for all visitors to Thailand to read and follow.

Goatscrot for President!

[QUOTE=Daebis;1927486]

Do they work in a bar there or provide escort services or get taken a brothel like the Russians at rajah hotel.
[/QUOTE]Yes and yes. It is all possible.

I've bumped into girls from Soi Cowboy's Shark in Impanema in Orchard Towers. They figure they have the possibility of getting perhaps THB 8 K ST in Singapore. After they realize this is rare, they may not go back. Or they may go back because they enjoyed not dancing on a stage. Who knows.

In HKG they may be a 141 girl in a room on a website where guys knock on the door, take a look and come in if they like what they see.

It could be they are taking to a brothel.

It could be that their other boyfriend (s) is taking them to these places so they have a girl by their side when on holiday. By the way, those others also get thank you for the money and gifts they are sending and some of them are contributing to that house your a building for her. It will be magnificent!

Everything is possible.

[QUOTE=Daebis;1927652]Thanks for the reply. Many wouldn't have wasted their time.

I have been talking to her even in Malaysia, she is very nice looking, unmarried no baby, lives with a friend, over confident I think she may be even be providing girls as when she leaves she gets busy 2 days before and has told me boss wants me to arrange everything from ticket to other girls. She speaks decent English and has been to college. Has told. Me about the bad and the good men she's been with Manushy she says so no one's kidding anyone.
[/QUOTE]Ask her where she is working in Malaysia. This can help us to explain what she is doing there. Kinky massage or KTV or Thai House. Give me her LINE ID and I'll check in on her for you next week.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1928573]Regular price at Thermae is 2000-2500 ST. I'm sure there are girls less than 2000 as well, especially near closing time when they want to seal a deal rather than move on to another venue. Seems like this girl wanted 1000 extra. The Farang upcharge may have only been from this girl as I do not believe the previous girls Syzy went with had this upcharge. Girls at Thermae can charge whatever they want. They are freelancers and some non pros.

Not implying this was the case for Syzy but often a girl throwing out a higher number may be because the girl was not interested in going with that particular customer. Did this girl express interest in you before you talked to her, Syzy?

The Farang surcharge isn't the big issue. Even worse is I am finding that many girls limit ST to 1 hour likely because they know they can turn over a Japanese guy in less than that. It is important to ask Thermae girls how long ST is.

Someone with Syzy's taste would definitely have a more difficult time finding a girl at Thermae than I would. Of the younger girls, there are definitely more post facial surgery girls made to look Japanese / Westernized than natural Thai look. It's why I can easily walk into Thermae and find 30-40 girls. I can't say that about any other place in Pattaya or Bangkok. The closest would be a VERY good night at Sensations in Pattaya or Baccara in Pattaya/Bangkok.

Uncle V told me the lineup was better after midnight than when you guys were there earlier.[/QUOTE]No the girl did not show interest. I certainly got the impression she likes quick easy customers extrapolating, and that is exactly what I am not. I prefer girls willing to go 90 mins.

When I know where I can find a really passionate bargirl that is very keen abd likes fucking, and possibly better looking as well, I would be looking for the Thermae girl to be cheaper and have a better attitude. Maybe she would have given you a better price I don't know how much.

There are definitely sweeter girls in there. I just approached the wrong ones.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1928637]. Maybe she would have given you a better price I don't know how much.[/QUOTE]Let's test this out.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1928521]Syzy, did you find out from that girl how much of a "farang upcharge" her requested 3,500 baht represented? Did she indicate it was 1,000 baht more for a farang than for the (most likely) Japanese guy she spent about 20 minutes with earlier? 500 baht more? Or did you have a feeling about it one way or another without her saying it exactly?
[/QUOTE]I usually include all important details. So if I had an answer, it would have been written already. Anyway BB points out going rate of 2 K to 2. 5 K. I don't like to get into price wars nor big negotiations with girls, so I did not ask for any further detail.

I will pay more if the girl really seems worth it. In this case she was definitely not special in any way for me other than face moderately cute. Body I don't know. Quite slim.

Vibe was rather too assertive and business like. Once talking to her, I wasn't really liking her anymore. I had pretty much decided against her even before hearing the 3500.

Some girls are probably looking for an easy quickie, simply to return to get the next customer. Some girls are not that way.

We could easily say the same of freelancers on the street, except they might be cheaper. For bar girls, many of my girls have been happy with taking just one customer for the evening, but others are aware they can get a customer so easily, they may as well go for another round if not too tired.

Girls have financial problems to deal with. Some need a certain amount of money on a particular day. This is not always compatible with getting a very relaxed girl for slow GFE. If the girl is a bit less popular, failing to get a customer at all some nights, then she may be willing to give a lot more of her time. If she doesn't get a fuck that often, she may be even horny.

My Billboard girl claimed she did not get to go with a customer all that often. Her look is right for me but not for every customer (small tits, all natural). There is plenty of competition with a significant number of good looking girls, maybe not all are so sweet. She is very lovey dovey in the bar and on the bed. Seems quite a horny type too. So she is very reliable. Never discussed a price with me either. Seems to have been happy. Always eager to see me again.

Bar girls has been my most reliable source of girls, due to several reasons. Able to gauge looks, including the body reasonably well, able to gauge girls level of fun loving and sweetness, no rush to go off and fuck immediately, able to get good GFE (not every time but very lucky this year), not looking for pornstars or exotic services. Not the cheapest of course. However recently at Crazy House not one of my favorite automatic choice girls has been attending. Line up is decidedly down (for me). Level of fake noses is rising to close to 50% (according to one girl who works there long time). Baccara line up is really boring for me. 95% fake noses, many fake tits covered, bored looking shuffling girls, hairstyles less crazy than 2 years ago (fashions change).

So far Thermae has proven a place more difficult to find the right girl for me. Girls tend to be more conservative, less GFE, more business like. Just impression so far. Freelancers tend to be a bit behind bargirls for GFE also, but satisfactory fucks so far. Always clothed girls have the risk of finding bad body in some way underneath the clothing, sometimes designed specially to hide something.

As surgeries have been increasing everywhere, bars, Soapies, Oilies, you name it, it has been getting more difficult for me to find desirable girls. Freelancers have less surgeries I guess, so I start to branch into this area, and hunt for bars with pretty girls all natural. Thermae does have more natural girls than Baccara by a significant margin.

Can someone go over the price structure for sex services in Bangkok. It will be my 1st time and I surely don't want to ruin the market for others.

P.S. Do girls charge extra for extra large cocks-I'm a lot bigger than normal.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1928573]Regular price at Thermae is 2000-2500 ST. I'm sure there are girls less than 2000 as well, especially near closing time when they want to seal a deal rather than move on to another venue. Seems like this girl wanted 1000 extra. The Farang upcharge may have only been from this girl as I do not believe the previous girls Syzy went with had this upcharge. Girls at Thermae can charge whatever they want. They are freelancers and some non pros.

Not implying this was the case for Syzy but often a girl throwing out a higher number may be because the girl was not interested in going with that particular customer. Did this girl express interest in you before you talked to her, Syzy?

The Farang surcharge isn't the big issue. Even worse is I am finding that many girls limit ST to 1 hour likely because they know they can turn over a Japanese guy in less than that. It is important to ask Thermae girls how long ST is.

Someone with Syzy's taste would definitely have a more difficult time finding a girl at Thermae than I would. Of the younger girls, there are definitely more post facial surgery girls made to look Japanese / Westernized than natural Thai look. It's why I can easily walk into Thermae and find 30-40 girls. I can't say that about any other place in Pattaya or Bangkok. The closest would be a VERY good night at Sensations in Pattaya or Baccara in Pattaya/Bangkok.

Uncle V told me the lineup was better after midnight than when you guys were there earlier.[/QUOTE]No, I didn't mean to imply that a "farang upcharge" or "farang surcharge" was a big issue in Thermae or to imply anyone should worry about paying more or less as in a price war discussion. My assessment is the same as yours; Regular price at Thermae is 2000-2500 ST.

And the girl Syzy spoke with that night, the one he was interested in enough to keep an eye on and approach so I assume she wasn't among the most homely girls in the room and more than likely one of the more attractive ones, a girl who had just bagged a (most likely) Japanese customer to boot, who also seemed fairly comfortable and "at home" in the place, pretty much confirmed (imo) with what she said to Syzy that her Japanese customers generally pay her that exact same regular rate as well; 2000-2500 ST. That is all I was trying to point out, unless Syzy had a detail to offer about what she said to him that he hadn't yet included. Looks like he didn't have any more info on it than that.

Good. As I said, at least from that particular Thermae girl's experience and revealed by her in far more fluent Thai than most other farang customers would ever engage with her, she confirmed that she is not aware that, according to the oft repeated complaint on many of these kinds of message boards, Japanese customers are throwing around wildly inflated amounts of baht above the regular 2000-2500 ST rate that almost anyone else who is not a Japanese would ordinarily pay in Thermae. That is all I was interested in exploring and pointing out in this instance.