2006 Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Bule,

So I guess that means you are never leaving NYC again, for action? LOL! You mentioned the boasting Aussie, the Rich/Classy Gringo, but you failed to mention the biggest group of all. The whinning, "stop over paying", faction that somehow thinks they know it all. I would not call them cheap charlies, it's something else driving them to speak out. I would say it's anger or disatisfaction with life? LOL! Look, don't take that seriously. Just a friendly jab at those guys, and they know who they are! LOL!

Bule, you must have your reasons for speaking out. I just don't think some of the comments come across very well. Many guys pay $200 to $300 for Caucasian woman in the states. Is that ok? Are caucasian woman twice or three times as good as Asian woman? Or are the punters 2-3 times as stupid? There's a lot of ways this can go. None of them good.

By the way, no offense to Aussie's or Rich/Classy Gringo's. Just using his words. By the way, stereotyping just irritates me.

AT2[/QUOTE]
I am somewhat with AT2 on this topic and even somewhat with Brain666.
Look, I am a generous payer of Thai girls but can pay quite poorly if the service is poor.
I am not wealthy bt I can afford trips to Thailand. I don't waste money on expensive hotels. I use my money for mongering.
My time is limited so I want the best girls even if they cost more.
I don't have any standard payment. It varies from girl to girl, but may pay a single girl a consistent amount for a consistent service so as not to completely confuse her.

IMHO, which I am sure others disagree with, we cannot set a price on a fuck, a ST or a LT because it depends greatly on how much work the girl had to do to get her money and how much of a good time was had by me.

What girl will be motivated to give the best session if she feels the guy is a stingy negotiator?

A standard sex session for me lasts a long time. I am incapable of blowing quickly unless sex deprived for weeks. So I pay according to the length of time and according to how many sessions in a LT.

Most girls do not negotiate a price with me and leave it up to me to pay a fair price which they assume I will know as I can speak Thai well.

I pay fairly and rarely get any complaints.
Occasionally girls ask for more but are just "trying it on" and will usually admit that I have paid fairly.

I have never experienced a girl stealing my stuff and never caused any girl to be angry with me or to seek revenge.

If I really like girls I will want to repeat, so its best to be nice to them.

I have on occasions given girls extra money when I have accidentally put them temporarily out of action with bruised and bleeding uterus, even though I am not a rough player.

All the stingy-bastard cheap-charlies out there are welcome to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off Pattaya or China-town or low class places where the bargain basement prices are available. Some of us want superior girls at a fair price which doesn't have to be bargain basement.

Many P4P girls are not making big bucks. The percentage that own expensive cars is not very high. Others have families to support. Some P4P girls are really stuggling due to not enough customers.

Dear Brai Brai
The reason why some of those girls won't go below 2500 or 3k for you is because YOU and dozens of your non-savvy partners pay them. If some Thai-CHICK quotes you 2500, smile and say no thanks. I GUARANTEE you'll find one as good if not better 10min later for 1/2, HALF that price!!!
We aren't mad at ya, well a little.

Just think about it for a little bit 10% of the females in Thailand work as hookers. I don't care how FAT, SHY, or freaky your are if you can't make a better purchase then that you are a lost cause. GO BACK to where you came from and pay those over priced elephants.

First of all if your paying 2K you should be getting all 3 holes for 24hours, AND a large stack of explicit PICs. She should also clean your room and make several trips getting food & drink keeping you completely satisfied in your room. Last but not least SHE SHOULD BE smoke-N HOT, all of this would be a considered a top-shelf buy. MAXIMUM BUY. Really we are not blowing smoke up your ass, the TG's are doing this not us.

No one likes to be told there being taken advantage of, NO ONE !!! BUT that is why we are here to help each other out. To educate each other, and brag a little bit about our conquests. We aren't here hating one each other, BUT we do get a little pissed when the prices have been posted in English and black and white typed text. BUT yet we still have goof balls being taken to the cleaners.

Its frustrating, It sucks I know I have seen the price of poon shy rocket. Its just not worth that much. Jesus, I remember when gold was 375 an Oz, I almost have to pay that much in the states to get half ass service with some METH head. Is that what you want Oooo Brai Brai, you keep paying those prices and that's where were going to end up in 5 years. because that all the time it takes 5 stinking years to drive inflation through the roof.


Be responsible & safe


[QUOTE=Brain666]Ok probably the attitute makes that extra milage only and and not the additional money.
However there are girls out there that will not go below 2500 or 3000. Nice girls, I sometimes don't want to miss. I am ok that you leave them for me.


regards

Brain666[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fish N Chips]

Just think about it for a little bit 10% of the females in Thailand work as hookers. [/QUOTE]



Very interesting statistics, could you tell us the source of your information.?

[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]Very interesting statistics, could you tell us the source of your information.?[/QUOTE]

Yo Mr. Jimmy,
What statistics could be accurate? The point seems well made to me; with the proviso that 10% of the women in Thailand have been, or are prostitutes of one type or another.

Cheers,
Sean

[QUOTE=Fish N Chips]First of all if your paying 2K you should be getting all 3 holes for 24hours, AND a large stack of explicit PICs. She should also clean your room and make several trips getting food & drink keeping you completely satisfied in your room. Last but not least SHE SHOULD BE smoke-N HOT, all of this would be a considered a top-shelf buy. MAXIMUM BUY. Really we are not blowing smoke up your ass, the TG's are doing this not us.[/QUOTE]Now I have seen a lot of irrational comments here before, but this one takes the cake. Just because you are Cheap doesn't mean we all have to be.

Can't you just put in your thick skull that "hookers" (as you call them) are Women and not a vulgar pieces of meat?

Every women has the right to decide at which level she evaluates the price of her body.

Now If you like to Fuck a 500 thb lady @ BG7 or Chinatown, that's your right, but some of us prefer the 2000 or 3000 ones. Why? maybe because we can afford it, and maybe because I prefer to invest 2000 in a lady that will only fuck 1 guy per night rather than a 500 BG7 Freelancer that will screw 5 to 10 times a night.

As you so adequately put it, It is all a matter of Choice. If you don't like the price, smile and go about your business.

Do you also tell people not to buy BMW's? Why buy one if another half price car could take you from point A to point B?

Anyways, the most important thing for me is to have fun and enjoy my time with the ladies as much as possible, I treat them like ladies and they behave like ladies, price is not an issue. I prefer a Good GFE time for 2 or 3k rather than a quick and lousy 500thb fuck.

To each their own. Why is it so difficult for you to accept that?

[QUOTE=Fish N Chips]Dear Brai Brai,

The reason why some of those girls won't go below 2500 or 3k for you is because YOU and dozens of your non-savvy partners pay them. If some Thai-CHICK quotes you 2500, smile and say no thanks. I GUARANTEE you'll find one as good if not better 10min later for 1/2, HALF that price!

We aren't mad at ya, well a little.

Just think about it for a little bit 10% of the females in Thailand work as hookers. I don't care how FAT, SHY, or freaky your are if you can't make a better purchase then that you are a lost cause. GO BACK to where you came from and pay those over priced elephants.

First of all if your paying 2K you should be getting all 3 holes for 24hours, AND a large stack of explicit PICs. She should also clean your room and make several trips getting food & drink keeping you completely satisfied in your room. Last but not least SHE SHOULD BE smoke-N HOT, all of this would be a considered a top-shelf buy. MAXIMUM BUY. Really we are not blowing smoke up your ass, the TG's are doing this not us.

No one likes to be told there being taken advantage of, NO ONE !!! BUT that is why we are here to help each other out. To educate each other, and brag a little bit about our conquests. We aren't here hating one each other, BUT we do get a little pissed when the prices have been posted in English and black and white typed text. BUT yet we still have goof balls being taken to the cleaners.

Its frustrating, It sucks I know I have seen the price of poon shy rocket. Its just not worth that much. Jesus, I remember when gold was 375 an Oz, I almost have to pay that much in the states to get half ass service with some METH head. Is that what you want Oooo Brai Brai, you keep paying those prices and that's where were going to end up in 5 years. because that all the time it takes 5 stinking years to drive inflation through the roof.


Be responsible & safe[/QUOTE]Hi Bro,

Possible to advice me the place where you able to enjoy te below 2.5k rate for overnight?

Cheers

Kitty

Went back to Spanky's (in the Nana Plaza) to barfine/longtime the same cutie (Da) that I had shorttimed a few nights earlier. She was even sweeter the second time around, delivering an all-night 5-star girl friend experience. Like we had been dating for a year! I find it remarkable that these girls can develop such strong feelings for their "dates" under the circumstances. I highly recommend going back and bar-fining your girl a second time!

We taxied back to the Shangri-La arriving around 830pm. Here's a tip for those of you staying at the Shangri-La for business (and you don't want your business associates to see you with your new friend): have the taxi driver drop you at the hotel's "Krungthep Wing" entrance (across the street from the Saphan Taksin BTS station). This lobby is practically deserted compared to the hotel's busy main ("Shangri-La Wing") entrance. You should be able to slip into your room without seeing any other hotel guests.

And the hotel staff did not give us any problems when entering the hotel in the evening or leaving the hotel in the morning, in fact most of the staff gave us a big smile as we breezed by. Very girl-friendly.

[QUOTE=Fish N Chips]I GUARANTEE you'll find one as good if not better 10min later for 1/2, HALF that price!!!
We aren't mad at ya, well a little.

First of all if your paying 2K you should be getting all 3 holes for 24hours, AND a large stack of explicit PICs. [/QUOTE]

Fish,

Your views are getting old .. very old. The guys you are talking to have just as much, if not more experience than you. My guess, based on your views and theirs, is that they are also more successful and have more money than you do. Yet, you persist in lecturing these fine gentlemen.

Somewhere along the line, some older gents told you some stories. The way things "ought to be". You bought it hook line and sinker. Now, that's all you preach. What was taught to you by your "Masters". LOL!

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaase! Give me a break! LOL!

I've seen some of your pics. You are getting what you pay for. Everyone has different tastes and different pocket books. Post stories about your adventures .. that's fine. But please spare us the lectures. I'm having too good a time in BKK right now, to have you spoil it! I have spent 1,000 baht, 2,000 baht, 3,000 baht and oh my god! 4,000 baht! All were great and delivered what I expected. No regrets.

AT2

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]To each their own. Why is it so difficult for you to accept that?[/QUOTE]

Yes! Yes! Yes! It's just so damn simple, that some just can't fathom it!

AT2

Here we go Frenchy & the Traveler

Two of the most experienced gentlemen in the room. I must bow to your over powering prowess.
Another perfect example of denial, two poor souls that have been taken advantage of and insist they are at the leading edge of mongering.
These types are the most valued farang, they pull the wool over there own eyes.
Its wonderful to have such diverse opinions, some times I wonder who these posers really are? Why would they promote a .50cent hamburger as a 5.00dollar happy meal, really why. Then continue to brag about there misfortune, and act as if that were the standard?

ONE: A classic reason would be they are in denial, overwhelmed with the LOS poon factor. This mentality manifests itself from being raised in the Western Media driven markets.

TWO: have some type of financial gain by it (not likely)

And you know what frenchy I'm exhausted too, listening to you and traveler's negative approach. I usually try and put a positive spin on my posts, BUT why, why help a num-nuts like you? When you are clearly satisfied in your ignorance. Most rational people would make an effort on there next adventure to come in line with the norm, I wonder what you'll do? Type up another whinny post to support your self esteem, OR support your fellow monger? Hummmm?


By the way Jimmy Red Cab & Sean_Double The statistic i was quoting was from some documentary I had seen a couple months ago. Sorry can't remember the details, that number when quoted kinda stuck out. That's why I remembered it.



Be responsible and stay safe

Best Regards

Chill out Mr Fish N Chips - this forum is a fun way for us to help each other.

No need to get upset if other members have different views.

[QUOTE=Fish N Chips]Here we go Frenchy & the Traveler

Two of the most experienced gentlemen in the room. I must bow to your over powering prowess.

Its wonderful to have such diverse opinions, some times I wonder who these posers really are? Why would they promote a .50cent hamburger as a 5.00dollar happy meal, really why. Then continue to brag about there misfortune, and act as if that were the standard?

Most rational people would make an effort on there next adventure to come in line with the norm, I wonder what you'll do? Type up another whinny post to support your self esteem, OR support your fellow monger? Hummmm?

[/QUOTE]

Fish,

The problem is that you see our posts as boasting our prowess. That is not the point. Are you trying to help others? No, I think you are trying to help yourself. You want prices to stay down for you. You talk about the norm? The norm is a tourist who goes to exotic places like Thailand, Hong Kong, Japan and they end up eating those $.50 hamburgers at McDonald's you so cherish.

They can't understand why someone would eat anything else. Well, you missed the point. We DO pay $.50 for a $.50 hamburger, the point you missed is that we also pay $50 for a great steak in a five star restaurant and enjoy that sometimes. Can you understand that? Yeah, you could grill a pretty good steak in your back yard, but that's not the point. It's a different situation. You seem to see all situations the same and life is more complex and interesting than that. Please get out of your backyard sometimes. You may be missing out on a lot.

You are paying 1,000 baht for 1,000 baht level girls. Nothing wrong with that. You get what you pay for. There are those that are more attractive .. a lot more attractive than what I have seen in your pics. They will ask for more and are generally worth more, at least for the "looks" premium. Some are worth it and sometimes I walk away. It's a judgement call. You think inside this tiny box and can't understand why someone who can afford to pay 2,000 or 3,000 baht would do so. You ask them to walk away. Why?

I guess you are telling everyone else not to eat anything but McDonalds, buy only used cars, live only in the cheapest city and only monger in the $.50 cent districts of BKK. I must say, you seem to be the delusional one. And no, you do not need to bow to my prowess. All I'm asking, is just for one minute, understand that we are competent rational people, making competent rational decisions. I do enjoy a cheap burger, but I also enjoy other things too.

We do help others. We post info on where we have been, stuff we have heard, the going rates, etc. Those are building blocks. Most smart people, move beyond the basic info and begin to work out what works best for them. Each a unique individual. Some end up making a stack of blocks and others create monuments. To each their own and what they do with the basic building blocks is their own business. Have you ever been to the high end Soapies on Ratchadapisek? It will cost you at least 2,000 baht for about 2 hours. Based on your views, my guess is that you would never recommend any of those. Not when you can get a 1,000 baht girl for all night! LOL!

You don't know us, please don't assume you do. I'm going to bed with a 2,000 baht Nana girl in a few minutes. I guess I screwed up again. Somehow, I don't think I will be all that heart broken in the morning.

AT2

[QUOTE=Fish N Chips]Here we go Frenchy & the Traveler
[/QUOTE]
WOW. For a moment there, I panicked. I thought The Traveler was back in town.
Fish, please, if you want to abbreviate Asia Traveler 2, please do so like this [size=+2]AT2.[/size]
otherwise, some of us might have a heart attack!

[QUOTE=1Ball]WOW. For a moment there, I panicked. I thought The Traveler was back in town.
Fish, please, if you want to abbreviate Asia Traveler 2, please do so like this [size=+2]AT2.[/size]
otherwise, some of us might have a heart attack![/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

LOL :) ! Come for a few days, weeks, month to the Lodge, recover, relax!!!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Fish N Chips]...
By the way Jimmy Red Cab & Sean_Double The statistic i was quoting was from some documentary I had seen a couple months ago. Sorry can't remember the details, that number when quoted kinda stuck out. That's why I remembered it.
...[/QUOTE]Fish N Chips,

The last number I read (Bangkok Post) was an estimation of some "healthcare groups" (want to avoid some old discussions here). The mentioned "realistic" number of sex workers in Thailand was 1.2 Mio women. We all know that the official number of sex workers (government) in Thailand is ... 0 (zero!).

The result of my calculation now is that there are 24 Mio. people living here in Thailand.

Good that I am not alone :) .


Giotto