Moscow

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I have no idea if Karma is any good, haven't been there in a long time.
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Karma has sucked the last three times I went there. I don't bother anymore. Coyote Ugly is right up the street from it, and much better talent.

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Che is a good place to pick up chicks and there is usually action there, however most girls run in the 6-7 category. They purposely keep the young kids 18-21 out of there and try catering to a more monied crowd. Still, it is one of the best clubs in Moscow in terms of having a good time. My only major beef there is that it is very well known on the expat circuit, lots of them. The good thing is most of them go home by 2am... just when the party there gets started. :))[/QUOTE]

Che is hit-or-miss. For example, the last time I went there with Skank, we arrived at around 5:30am. Within 30 minutes, we had pulled a couple big-titted 20 y.o. studentki to our table and Doc was playing tonsil-hockey with his as I was doing some dirty dancing with mine. But last week I went there with another friend and discovered a tragedy of 30-something secretaries and obnoxious expats.

I also need to try Up and Down, btw... Group outing?

[QUOTE=Aibolit]This report is about my visit to Charmel few months ago (sorry for the delay).

For the record, I can speak Russian relatively fluently and was very much helped by this forum in zooming on 3 salons: Charmel, Fantasys and Elite Tv. I chose Charmel for some reason and was pleased with it. As this was my first visit to a Moscow salon, I was prepared for the worst. Yet, the service was quite professional in terms of discretion, girls, and amenities. 4000 rubles for an hour, I believe.

I may have been lucky with a girl, as she was friendly. I was put off by a refusal to do uncovered BJ and let my fingers inside her VJJ. Aside from that, she's was quite charming and looked much better than on the photo on their website. Given my preference for fresh-faced, 18-22 year olds with perfect figure and baby face - this is a complement for this salon.

Cons - the entire meeting me on the street and escorting me in routine was a bit off putting. I selected a girl (Masha) from ~7 girls, but no one asked me what I prefer and provided me with recommendations. Given that they did talk to me deliberately after the session to solicit my comments, I was surpirsed that they didn't consider asking a client what he wants BEFORE he sees the girls.

I may be in Moscow soon and consider trying Fantasy's, as they moved to better location I hear. Are there other places that people here would recommend, given my above-mentioned preference of girls?
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Glad you had a good time!

I've had Masha before too (though at Fantasy's, not Charmel). She's a sweetie, for sure. And what a hard body... mmm. One of the few Muslim girls I've fucked. CBJ is standard at those salons (actually, almost ALL salons I've been to in Moscow). But most girls will allow DATY and vaginal/anal finger fucking - if not immediately from the start, then after you get them heated up.

According to their website(s), most of the girls are now working at Fantasy's, at their new digs on Pokrovka 40 (not far from the old Safari). Last time I went there, the lineup was 12+ girls, most in the 8+ range. It's expensive for a Moscow salon, but you really do get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Last place I hit with visiting VIPs had (admittedly stunning) girls to offer for 15K PER HOUR.[/QUOTE]Was that; Dollars, Euros or Rubles?

[QUOTE]But keep it in English. You're mixing your perfect and imperfect verbs.[/QUOTE]Criticizing you always will be making! :D

You are right, however, it's an important issue and something every monger should be aware of. The second a Russian dyevchonka hears you mixing perfect and imperfect verbs, that's the end of it right there. A Russian woman will take a lot of abuse from a man, but that's an absolute deal-breaker. :)

I plan to go to Moscow next week (plus week-end). I'll stay at the hotel Kosmos.
Do you know that hotel? Is there something there? I've seen there's a night club, any info?

Thanks

Hi,

I'll be at the hotel Kosmos next week (and the week-end) in Moscow. How is it? Is there some action there?

I've seen there is a night-club inside. Any info?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Coyote Ugly is right up the street from it, and much better talent.

I also need to try Up and Down, btw... Group outing?[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the sauna and other advice, Pizdyets. Based on the advice, I am inclined to try Fantasy's with the eye on exporting the 1-2 ladies I hopefully will like there to a nice Sauna for 3-4 hours (next day). By the way, my plan is to go alone to sauna with 1-2 nice girls. Any suggestion of a good, clean sauna that would be well-fit for the above-mentioned plan?

I'm potentially up for a "group outing" to Coyote Ugly, Up&Down or other places that you guys know probably much better than I. However, I'll be in Moscow only in ~3 weeks from now and don't yet know my schedule. Let me know if something transpires around that time.

All the best, Aibolit

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Karma has sucked the last three times I went there. I don't bother anymore. Coyote Ugly is right up the street from it, and much better talent.



Che is hit-or-miss. For example, the last time I went there with Skank, we arrived at around 5:30am. Within 30 minutes, we had pulled a couple big-titted 20 y.o. studentki to our table and Doc was playing tonsil-hockey with his as I was doing some dirty dancing with mine. But last week I went there with another friend and discovered a tragedy of 30-something secretaries and obnoxious expats.

I also need to try Up and Down, btw... Group outing?[/QUOTE]Coyote is a cool place, went there again last Friday. I also think it has somehow replaced Karma as the place to go for expats as every time I am there I hear a lot of English being spoken. Whether that is good or bad is tough to say as such places usually do draw some talent, but the expat factor can also be a negative for obvious reasons.

Friday the talent was mixed, although I wasn't actively looking since I was with a date. What I do like there is all the dancing sluts on the bar and some of the wait staff is quite hot. I really really really wanna fuck the head bargirl with the fake n' bake tan. She's quite a *****, but I've seen her dancing on the bar once doing body shots on some chick and she's got some sizzle.

As for Up an Down, let's give it a go next time I am in town...

I remember the Che outing you mentioned, and yeah, those girls did have some great tits. They were quite fit girls too, nothing wrong with that... )

I would agree Karma sucks.

Went a few times last summer and I also had a tricky incident there. I approached an absolute sex bomb who turned to be a Latvian who could not speak a word of Russian or English, lost her wallet and seemed to be "high" (who knows what business brought her to Moscow). Fuelled by several "vodka s sokom" I managed to break the communication barrier and we ended up outrageously dancing but unfortunately the male local audience did not approve the show. I was pushed around and told not to rob their ladies (even when they found out she was not Russian!) and due to "popular demand" I had to run away but managed to do it with the girl in hand. Sadly she wanted more dancing in Propaganda and unfortunately I run out of cash for the taxi fare. By the time I was drove to the ATM my butterfly had already jumped out the car and lost her. I hope at least some luck bastard could benefit from my early efforts!

I went to Karma again last month (this time with company). There are now go-go dancers an that seems to attracts an ever seedier clientele (lots of loud horny Turkish tourists).

Do not bother either with Bonny & Clyde in Tverskaya, overpriced drinks and very little action going on.

I have to say Moscow seems to be a café place paradise for the quantity, variety and flexibility of time tables however I still have not find a night club I truly like so much to become a regular.

The most fun (without necessarily involving picking up) I have found in retro/underground Russian bars where I have been taken by one-off bar acquaintances. Unfortunately too drunk most of the time to remember how to get there again

Vigilante

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Coyote is a cool place, went there again last Friday. I also think it has somehow replaced Karma as the place to go for expats as every time I am there I hear a lot of English being spoken. Whether that is good or bad is tough to say as such places usually do draw some talent, but the expat factor can also be a negative for obvious reasons.

Friday the talent was mixed, although I wasn't actively looking since I was with a date. What I do like there is all the dancing sluts on the bar and some of the wait staff is quite hot. I really really really wanna fuck the head bargirl with the fake n' bake tan. She's quite a *****, but I've seen her dancing on the bar once doing body shots on some chick and she's got some sizzle.

As for Up an Down, let's give it a go next time I am in town...

I remember the Che outing you mentioned, and yeah, those girls did have some great tits. They were quite fit girls too, nothing wrong with that... )[/QUOTE]

I would be happy to go with you to Up and Down next week too.
or unknown reason, fridays nights are more crowded than saturdays in up and down.

Let me know if you go out lads!

For Coyotte Ugly, i am still not convince. Tons of expats and questionable dievoutchis (means for me: fat) the last 2 times i went... weird.

[QUOTE=Passepartout]For Coyotte Ugly, i am still not convince. Tons of expats and questionable dievoutchis (means for me: fat) the last 2 times i went... weird.[/QUOTE]That's what I meant by the talent is mixed... .) There are definitely a lot of unacceptable devs there, but some of the very fuckable type as well.

What I don't know however is the availability of the hotter ones. There are a lot of groups that come there as well, and groups that come together tend to leave together. Also the club hires some hot girls to dance amongst the crowd as well, to liven things up. They are obviously unavailable as well, at least one would think so.

I still really enjoy it there though, one of only 2 clubs I've been to that plays good music, the other being Krisis Zhanra.

[QUOTE=Toto Rosebud1338]Hi,

I'll be at the hotel Kosmos next week (and the week-end) in Moscow. How is it? Is there some action there?

I've seen there is a night-club inside. Any info?

Thanks[/QUOTE]When I was there a couple years ago there were some girls working in the lobby, approaching guys asking to give them "sex massage".

I don't have any current info though.

I think the club is called "Solaris" and I also HEARD that there were girls working there, but didn't try myself. It would be interesting to know...

Any idea of the tarif for girls directly at the hotel?

While I already decided to try Fantasy's during my impending trip to Moscow, I was unsure about the talent posted on their website. Perhaps, I do have a problem here, as my preferences are quite demanding:
1. Young 18-22 y.o. face that is fresh and not *****-like.
2. Positive attitude, challenging positions, playful and ready to please.
3. Perfect body - not a gram of extra fat. Long legs, natural boobs.

After hearing many people rave about Fantasy's, Charmel and Elit TV (granted, my one and only visit to Charmel was positive) - I made a thorough scanning of the pictures on their 3 websites. I found it very difficult to find the talent that fits the above-mentioned criteria. The following girls approached the ideal:
Fantasy's (now called Atell) - Lika, Katya, Oksana, perhaps Diana.
Elite TV - Marina and Masha
Charmel - Veronica

I have also searched Dosug.nz and found that some good looking girls can be found at Randez-vous and Amsterdam salons.

So, for those of us who must have the above-mentioned quality, I pose the following quesitons:
1. Have anyone heard of Randez-vous and Amsterdam salons?
2. Are there other salons that select ladies mostly according to my criteria above?
3. Are Fantasy's, Elite TV and Charmel indeed the best places in Moscow, or it is just popular with expats who don't explore beyond the mainstream?


Best, Aibolit

[QUOTE=Aibolit]...indeed the best places in Moscow, or it is just popular with expats who don't explore beyond the mainstream?


Best, Aibolit[/QUOTE]Personally I have always felt that those who try to overplan, or overanalyse where the absolute best of this or that is in Moscow are kind of missing the point about Moscow.

The best place is where you are right now, if you understand what I mean.

I appreciate your efforts to figure out as much as you can pre-trip, but as a monger you have both to go with the flow and do some exploration yourself.

And after you do, don't forget to report. 99% of the guys that get advice from this forum never report back.

By the way, it's been mentioned before, but an "up to the minute" more detailed report on Moscow can be found on the Russian language site sextalk.ru... if you can navigate the language.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]The best place is where you are right now, if you understand what I mean.[/QUOTE]

Thats a Bingo Dr. !!!

But I think you can say this of all mongering and maybe even life in general, though I myself do not always see it.

These forums are great, but there is a tendency to over analyze & plan that comes along with them. For me I find one can only get the slightest of flavor from the forum, then one has to get out there and work with what the moment brings. This is the the fun, the juice, of mongering.

AM