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The Michigan Republican-led state Senate Oversight Committee released a report that there was "no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud" in the state's 2020 election" . "Our clear finding is that citizens should be confident the results represent the true results of the ballots cast by the people of Michigan".
But wait, El Vez saw a video.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2573800]Gee, you're a hell of a comedian.
1. In 2009 the H1 N1 influenza AKA Swine Flu killed from 150,000 to 450,000 people worldwide.
The virus originated in the USA.
Who needs to be punished for that?
2. Fauci needs to be prosecuted, but the Red Menace doesn't?
The same Red Menace who -- as he personally admitted -- knew how deadly the virus was, but lied to the public in order not to disturb the markets?
3. Oh, and have you already proven that the Chinese manufactured the virus?
I'm so, so glad that "this isn't democrat or republican issue. " Could've fooled me.[/QUOTE]Big difference was that Swine flu was not man made in a lab and leaked out. I am glad you remembered the swine flu in 2009 which Obama did nothing at all to protect USA citizens. In Asia they took your temperature in the plane before they let you in their country but Obama just ignored it hoping it would go away and it did. Fortunately it was not deadly like Covid or Obama would have killed over 2,000,000 citizens.
Not proven yet that Covid came from China because they are stonewalling all the facts. That is why an investigation needs to be done. Also Biden and Fauci don't want an investigation and they are hindering it.
Amazing that when the democrats want to investigate fabricated Russian collusion that democrats welcome investigations but when the Republicans want to investigate anything they resist.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2573685]LOL. How do you intend to do that? On what basis, some conspiracy theory that the virus was manufacture when there is no actual evidence of this? Trump discovered what exactly? What actual crimes has Fauci committed? Statute, evidence? Canada. Maybe the world should prosecute the US for the bullshit Iraq invasion, the non existent weapons of mass destruction with hundreds of thousands killed. Nope the US does not allow such prosecutions and fat luck trying to do anything to China. China already flouts most of the sanctions the US imposes so exactly what is the world going to do to China?[/QUOTE]I have asked, many times, for him to provide evidence. But, for some reason, the moderator fails to post my requests.
He has no evidence. He has lots of suppositions like "I took a dump this morning and then it started to rain. They must be connected."
[QUOTE=GDreams;2573154]If Canada had to try and comment on fact rather than opinions his head would explode. He hates California and to admit they have an economy almost twice as big as Texas, has over the last 12 years had the highest average GDP growth in the country, has a per capita income 50% higher than Texas and one of the highest in the country all directly contradicts everything he says here. How can that be? Image the electrons bouncing around his head trying to figure out how the most socialist state in the country run by Democrats could possibly be the most successful. The heat generated by the said electrons meeting the resistance in the Trump side of the brain would cause his head to explode![/QUOTE]The California I see isn't through rose colored glasses. I see high taxes and unfair regulations for business.
I see worst homeless situation worse than any other state even Venice beach isn't safe anymore.
I see needles and shit on the streets in downtown SF and fisherman's wharf.
I see looting and shoplifting as a crime but CA does not prosecute looting under $1000.
I see power blackouts because CA is shutting down their nuclear and gas fired power plants for undependable wind and solar power.
I see businesses leaving.
I see forest burning down because CA has no forest management only environmental crap wiping out forests.
I guess your rose colored glasses blocks all this out.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2573844]I have asked, many times, for him to provide evidence. But, for some reason, the moderator fails to post my requests.
He has no evidence. He has lots of suppositions like "I took a dump this morning and then it started to rain. They must be connected."[/QUOTE]I know you both are socialists and have zero common sense so I am going to try to explain it to you as I would to a kindergarten kid. When a crime is committed the police have to investigate and gather the evidence. They don't just sit in the police station and make a stupid evaluation. That is why when a crime is committed the police investigate. I know this sounds very complicated but if a kinder you'd can understand I am hoping you can.
[QUOTE=Canada;2573843]Big difference was that Swine flu was not man made in a lab and leaked out. I am glad you remembered the swine flu in 2009 which Obama did nothing at all to protect USA citizens. In Asia they took your temperature in the plane before they let you in their country but Obama just ignored it hoping it would go away and it did. Fortunately it was not deadly like Covid or Obama would have killed over 2,000,000 citizens.
Not proven yet that Covid came from China because they are stonewalling all the facts. That is why an investigation needs to be done. Also Biden and Fauci don't want an investigation and they are hindering it.
Amazing that when the democrats want to investigate fabricated Russian collusion that democrats welcome investigations but when the Republicans want to investigate anything they resist.[/QUOTE]Shocker! Trump lied about Obama's response to the 2009 H1N1 "swine flu" outbreak.
Obama's administration declared it a public health emergency 2 weeks after the first USA case was identified and immediately swung into action to produce and deliver drugs to combat it and a vaccine to prevent it. Trump waited 7 weeks to do that after the first cases of coronavirus were identified in the USA while he continued to knowingly lie about the virulence of the human-to-human spread and publicly mocked the known effective mitigation measures that very likely would have averted a pandemic had he instead promoted them as enthusiastically and consistently as he mocked and dismissed them.
Then again, there is that inconvenient fact that Trump inexplicably dramatically cut funding and pulled our CDC representatives out of China and away from their on site front line position to monitor, respond to and take action to prevent these kind of pandemics a year before the coronavirus outbreak started there against all warnings from experts in the field for him not to do that.
That, along with Trump's mockery and dismissal of the known effective mitigation measures, will always be counted as far worse than merely "doing nothing" about preventing this pandemic and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans and more around the world when the event Trump was fully warned about and given a playbook for responding to by the outgoing Obama administration (that he promptly ignored so he could play more golf) eventually did occur.
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/ap-fact-check-virus-outbreak-donald-trump-barack-obama-joe-biden-039fb6327915570f1d6b30c29d7f9762[/URL]
[quote]Then, the CDCs flu surveillance network actually sounded the alarm, spotting two children in California who were the first diagnosed cases of the new flu strain. About two weeks later, the U.S. declared a public health emergency and CDC began releasing anti-flu drugs from the national stockpile to help hospitals get ready. Trump declared a state of emergency Friday, seven weeks after the first U.S. case of COVID-19 was announced.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Canada;2573921]I know you both are socialists and have zero common sense so I am going to try to explain it to you as I would to a kindergarten kid. When a crime is committed the police have to investigate and gather the evidence. They don't just sit in the police station and make a stupid evaluation. That is why when a crime is committed the police investigate. I know this sounds very complicated but if a kinder you'd can understand I am hoping you can.[/QUOTE]So, where is your evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was created in a lab like you have claimed hundreds of times.
I want first hand evidence. Verifiable. By multiple sources. By people who were actually there. Otherwise, it is opinion or conjecture or any other term you want to use.
But you don't have that.
If Republikkkans would have accepted your type of evidence during trump's impeachment trial, the orange buffoon would have been convicted 40-10.
[QUOTE=Canada;2573849]The California I see isn't through rose colored glasses. I see high taxes and unfair regulations for business.
I see worst homeless situation worse than any other state even Venice beach isn't safe anymore.
I see needles and shit on the streets in downtown SF and fisherman's wharf.
I see looting and shoplifting as a crime but CA does not prosecute looting under $1000.
I see power blackouts because CA is shutting down their nuclear and gas fired power plants for undependable wind and solar power.
I see businesses leaving.
I see forest burning down because CA has no forest management only environmental crap wiping out forests.
I guess your rose colored glasses blocks all this out.[/QUOTE]As I have said you only see the the grievance issues. You still don't explain why it has the biggest GDP, the best growth rates and one of the highest per capita incomes when it is according to you "so bad there". But just to clarify some of the nonsense you wrote. The nuclear reactor is shut down because the piping is defective and it is not safe to operate. The owner does not plan to repair it. California has delayed the decommissioning some of the old gas peaker plants until the battery backup systems have been completed in a few months. I see the forests are burning because of consistent droughts from the climate change You fascists refuse to acknowledge or address.
Glad to see you are wandering around San Fransisco. Did you do your civic duty and clean up the needles and shit you saw?
And no I am not a socialist. I recognize good governance. Trump was the antithesis of good governance.
[QUOTE=Canada;2573921]I know you both are socialists and have zero common sense so I am going to try to explain it to you as I would to a kindergarten kid. When a crime is committed the police have to investigate and gather the evidence. They don't just sit in the police station and make a stupid evaluation. That is why when a crime is committed the police investigate. I know this sounds very complicated but if a kinder you'd can understand I am hoping you can.[/QUOTE]Evidently your trump university criminal justice degree didn't cover the "don't comment on an in-process investigation" rule.
Kindergarten? Did you ever graduate from pre-school?
Bill Mahar was a hero when he was basing Trump but now that he is bashing cancel culture and socialism he is an angry white man. Amazing how a democrat can be a hero one year and the next he is an angry white man.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2574090]Evidently your trump university criminal justice degree didn't cover the "don't comment on an in-process investigation" rule.
Kindergarten? Did you ever graduate from pre-school?[/QUOTE]Yuh duh, pecker V is apparently in the process of becoming even more of a dolt. I did not think that was possible but shor enough he proved me wrong again! What comes before preschool and after kindergarten? Oh I Know! It's Pecker V!
[QUOTE=Canada;2574110]Bill Mahar was a hero when he was basing Trump but now that he is bashing cancel culture and socialism he is an angry white man. Amazing how a democrat can be a hero one year and the next he is an angry white man.[/QUOTE]Maher has no idea what cancel culture is. And neither do you.
Maher, and you, can't see that a political party canceling one of their members for not towing the party line is cancel culture.
But everybody knows that you can lead a kkkonservative to wisdom but you can't make him think.
[QUOTE=Canada;2573843]Big difference was that Swine flu was not man made in a lab and leaked out. I am glad you remembered the swine flu in 2009 which Obama did nothing at all to protect USA citizens. In Asia they took your temperature in the plane before they let you in their country but Obama just ignored it hoping it would go away and it did. Fortunately it was not deadly like Covid or Obama would have killed over 2,000,000 citizens.
Not proven yet that Covid came from China because they are stonewalling all the facts. That is why an investigation needs to be done. Also Biden and Fauci don't want an investigation and they are hindering it.
Amazing that when the democrats want to investigate fabricated Russian collusion that democrats welcome investigations but when the Republicans want to investigate anything they resist.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that Republikkkans wanted a January 6th commission? Because I could have sworn that they voted unanimously against such a commission.
Plus, you have already decided that COVID was man-made and deliberately leaked so why have an investigation?
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2574189]Are you saying that Republikkkans wanted a January 6th commission? Because I could have sworn that they voted unanimously against such a commission.
Plus, you have already decided that COVID was man-made and deliberately leaked so why have an investigation?[/QUOTE]The DOH, FBI and CIA have already investigated the January 6 ordeal. They know all the details and who was involved. The House wants to do their independent investigation at a cost of $1.8 Billion to do another investigation. I think Republicans just feel $1.8 Billion can be spent in other areas helping the American people rather than just helping the democrats in congress hiring all their friends.
They have evidence showing that Covid came from the lab but they don't know if it was intentional or all was involved. The fact that Fauci and some of the scientists are trying to block the investigation creates a red flag. The fact that WHO did not do an investigation creates more red flags. The world needs to know. Not just Republicans. You as an American should demand an investigation as well as citizens of other countries so it never happens again.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2574187]Maher has no idea what cancel culture is. And neither do you.
Maher, and you, can't see that a political party canceling one of their members for not towing the party line is cancel culture.
But everybody knows that you can lead a kkkonservative to wisdom but you can't make him think.[/QUOTE]Maybe he doesn't know what cancel culture is and maybe I don't either but what I think is cancel culture is anti American. History happened both good and bad. You can't cancel it or erase it. Getting rid of historic statues and flags does not eliminate our history. Everything democrats don't agree with in this world is racist. Democrats hate America so they think the flag is racist. Maybe you don't but the democrats as a whole do. Protesting the National Anthem and burning the flag are acceptable to democrats but Republicans have a huge problem with it because we love and support all America not just the things we like in America. Democrats want racism to last forever. They want to keep blacks in poverty. That is the hold they need to get re-elected. They bring up racism hourly. Watch CNN or MSNBC news and they will mention racism in every broadcast. They will bash or blame and apologize for how bad America is. I am proud for what I stand for. I hope you can be too.