Moscow

Can only agree with Angus and the Good Doctor.

There is a need to Go with the Flow as well as with the Playbook.

Once the heavy waft of Estrogen is in the air, it`s time for a monger to improvise while adhering to your core principles. Call it Fun rather than assembly line. Creative game and follow-through are the pepper corns in the steak sauce.

We can usually end up in the same place, but it is the journey that sets it apart from the mundane and adds the spark.

E.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thats a Bingo Dr. !!!

But I think you can say this of all mongering and maybe even life in general, though I myself do not always see it.

These forums are great, but there is a tendency to over analyze & plan that comes along with them. For me I find one can only get the slightest of flavor from the forum, then one has to get out there and work with what the moment brings. This is the the fun, the juice, of mongering.

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I am back on this valuable forum after a while and begin with the request for a contribution ... hoping to be able to reciprocate with my own contributions shortly.

Anyone has experience of a couple mother + daughter receiving men together for a threesome?

What is the press to refer to for this kind of advertising in Moscow and/or online?

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Was that; Dollars, Euros or Rubles?
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15,000 rubles = 370 euro = 505 dollars

PER HOUR

There's only a handful of Russian girls that I'd pay that much for, and they weren't working there that night!

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Criticizing you always will be making! :D

You are right, however, it's an important issue and something every monger should be aware of. The second a Russian dyevchonka hears you mixing perfect and imperfect verbs, that's the end of it right there. A Russian woman will take a lot of abuse from a man, but that's an absolute deal-breaker. :)[/QUOTE]

Ironically, I end up speaking English with most my Russian GFs since they want to practice their English. Or maybe I'm just mixing up perfect/imperfect and verbs of motion too much!

[QUOTE=Aibolit]
So, for those of us who must have the above-mentioned quality, I pose the following quesitons:
1. Have anyone heard of Randez-vous and Amsterdam salons?
2. Are there other salons that select ladies mostly according to my criteria above?
3. Are Fantasy's, Elite TV and Charmel indeed the best places in Moscow, or it is just popular with expats who don't explore beyond the mainstream?
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1. heard of them... never been there. There are literally 100s of salons/apartmenty in Moscow, so aside from a handful of the serial wh0remongers on sextalk.ru, nobody could have tried them all.

2. it's a crapshoot, really. In any case, the internet will not reflect reality, no matter how reputable the salon. There will almost always be new girls not reflected on the website, and some degree of Photoshop is usually involved.

3. to my knowledge, they don't speak English there, so I'm doubting if they're [b]that[/b] popular with expats. Actually, of the regular contributors on this forum, only a few of us frequent those salons (most likely for that reason). I've been to other, cheaper salons and had good experiences, but in terms of location, discretion, cleanliness, style, service and consistent level of attractive dyeffki, the CharmFantElit cartel has only rarely left me disappointed.

I appreciate and agree with the advice to "go with the flow", particularly when applied to freebie hunt. However, when one is in Moscow for few days only, planning can be helpful, especially with P4P. That way, precious time is not spent on research of where to go etc. So, will anyone consider addressing my questions from yesterday?

I did check sextalk.ru - thank you, Dr. Sakank. I was able to find a lot of reports about individual girls. Couldn't find much about establishments, such as salons or saunas etc. Any suggestions here?

I do plan to right back a report and appreciate in advance any help with these quesitons. Best,

Aibolit

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Personally I have always felt that those who try to overplan, or overanalyse where the absolute best of this or that is in Moscow are kind of missing the point about Moscow.

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Fully agree with that.

Aibolit, look at the answer of Piezdiest: what you see on the internet is rarely what you will find. Btw for the mentioned saloon, i was always disappointed by the pictures on the internet and always amazed by the girls when i entered into the magic room where the line-up is waiting for you.

I am sure you will find your "rai" even with your criteria in most of these saloon.

How does Moscow compare in terms of prices and quality with Germany FKK's? What are the prices for top quality girls in top quality clubs (like the German's FKK's)?

Hallo everybody, I just come back from Moscow, I have been there 2 days, I was in Cosmos hotel.

From 10 pm to 7 am you can find in the lobby 15-20 girls that you can bring to the room without any problem, the price is 6500 rub for 1hr with 2 shots.

3 mounths ago was more expensive (8000) but probably the crisis is also here..

To bring a lady from outside is impossible, you must register her and pay of course as an hotel guest!

[QUOTE=Aibolit]However, when one is in Moscow for few days only, planning can be helpful, especially with P4P. That way, precious time is not spent on research of where to go etc.[/QUOTE]It's true, if you will only be in Moscow for a few days, some planning is in order to make the most efficient use of your time. Read through this forum thoroughly and sextalk.ru. Get a good map of the city and familiarize yourself with the layout. Locate the places you will want to visit in advance, make sure you understand the street and address (Russian addresses being a whole 'nother subject in itself). Make sure you have telephone numbers and any other relevant contact info written down. Nothing worse than arriving in Moscow, expecting to find the info you need on the internet and then discover that the internet "nye robotaiyet".

And that's about it, there really isn't much more you can do.

If you go to sextalk and click on

[i]Клуб Любителей Секса® - Москва[/i] (Sex lover's club - Moscow)

you can look up any phone number. You will see a line

[i]Метапоиск анкет по номеру телефона на досуговых сайтах:[/i]

enter in your phone number into the search engine and press

[i]Искать[/i]

it will return whatever info is available from sextalk for that phone number. If you type in the numbers for Fantasys or Charmel, it will return reviews about the girls who work there, which may help you to narrow down your selection. Of course, these reviews will be in Russian. You could run it through an online translator, but there will be so much slang and jargon that the translation will be impossible to understand.

Another good feature of sextalk is that, unlike ISG, it captures and stores specific kinds of info about girls that are reviewed. So if you click on

[i]Поиск в отчетах[/i] (search reports)

You will be presented with a screen that will allow you to search on just about any parameter you can think of; height, weight, hair color, bust size, even the metro stop. Sextalk also allows the guys to rate the girls on a variety of factors (on a scale of 1 to 5) and you can even search by rating. Enter that into

[i]Общая оценка от:[/i] (from) [i]до:[/i] (to)

and it will show you all the 5's, for example.

There is a thread on Sextalk.ru specifically for saunas, [i]Сауны, Гостиницы[/i] (saunas, hotels). I have read through it on occasion, but the impression I get is that Russian men tend to go to the sauna to get away from women, not to find them. The sauna in Russia is a long, complex male-bonding ritual, involving lots of vodka and flagellation with birch branches. If they want a woman, they generally tend to bring their own.

The other site that is a wealth of information is intimcity.ru. The also have very comprehensive search parameters, including a link to sextalk, so you can specify that you only want girls who have reports on Sextalk.

It is entirely possible that the kind of woman you are looing for is probably not looking for you. She will have many other ways to support herself than sitting around in a salon waiting for you to show up. There are some quality women in places like Fantasys and Charmel. Aside from their looks, they are, for the most part, dedicated professionals. They know what you want, they know how to give it to you and they have no problem with that. All for 4,000 руб. As Pizdyets pointed out, you will definitely get your money's worth.

Your best bet for the type of female pulchritude you are looking for is Aurora 911. Try converting one of the hostesses to the dark side. The challenge there will not be, do you want her. The challenge will be, does she want you? At any price.

Doc's advice is the best, don't over-analyze. The wonderful thing about Russia is that anything is possible, at any time. What is most important is to be open to what is happening around you. You may find that opportunities will appear that go far beyond what you planned for. The trick is... will you be savvy enough to understand what's being offered to you? ;)

By the way, Stravinsky, which are the Russian slang translation for:

- deep French kiss with tongue

- "facial"

- mouth-fucking

- cum-eating

- "creampie"

- fisting

- bondage

- pissing-in-mouth

- "double penetration"

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Ironically, I end up speaking English with most my Russian GFs since they want to practice their English.[/QUOTE]Interesting...

I don't think I've ever had a conversation in English with a Russian girl (in Moscow). But that's probably because [b]I[/b] want the chance to practice my Russian. Lord knows, my knowledge of Russian is far from perfect, but I've found there are few things more endearing to a Russian dyevchonka than a foreigner who can communicate with her in her own language.

Your point is valid though: perfective vs. imperfective.

I suppose it would be better to say

[i]часто вы заходите здесь[/i] (CHAS-to vui za-KHO-dit-tsye zdyeas)

vs.

[i]часто вы придёте здесь?[/i] (CHAS-to vui pri-DYOT-tsye zdyeas)

Another way to say it would be

[i]часто вы бываете здесь?[/i] (CHAS-to vui bui-VAI-yet-tsye zdyeas)


How would you say it?

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Interesting...

I don't think I've ever had a conversation in English with a Russian girl (in Moscow). But that's probably because [b]I[/b] want the chance to practice my Russian. Lord knows, my knowledge of Russian is far from perfect, but I've found there are few things more endearing to a Russian dyevchonka than a foreigner who can communicate with her in her own language.

Your point is valid though: perfective vs. imperfective.

I suppose it would be better to say

[i]часто вы заходите здесь[/i] (CHAS-to vui za-KHO-dit-tsye zdyeas)

vs.

[i]часто вы придёте здесь?[/i] (CHAS-to vui pri-DYOT-tsye zdyeas)

Another way to say it would be

[i]часто вы бываете здесь?[/i] (CHAS-to vui bui-VAI-yet-tsye zdyeas)


How would you say it?[/QUOTE]часто здесь?

Problem solved.

I'm about 50/50 on Russian vs. English... not because my Russian is good, just because I seem to find enough girls not interested in speaking English.

And yes, there is no better way to practice your Russian than pillow talk.

Thanks for the info Netviking!

Is 6500/h expensive there?

What about the Solaris? Did you go there?

Thanks

Hi Guys,

I am looking to do a tour of Eastern Europe and spend a couple of weeks in few majour cities. What I am looking for is a woman who will act as both a tour guide, interpriter and to go party with at the clubs.

Does not have to be sexual, but would have to be happy to help me chat up girls.

Does anyone know what sites it would be best to find someone to do this and what I should pay them?

Thanks

Might have to cross Opera off the list... there was a fire there Monday night and somebody died... Opera was on the militia's fire hazard list.

There are a lot of Moscow clubs that if there was ever a fire, dozens would die. They're like mazes.