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[QUOTE=DerekTheDuke2004]Will be flying into Bangkok next week around midnight. I understand there are buses that leave directly from the airport to Pattaya. Does anyone know if the run through the night? Can I hop on a bus at 1am?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Twas purely a rhetorical question, mate, so no need to get your knickers twisted. I have now replaced the exclamation mark with a question mark, as intended.
I’m fascinated by this question how one mans hot chick can be another mans hot dog. Last week I posted photos of a girlfriend that I considered pretty hot but which several members assured me was not hot at all. A much greater number of members assured me that she was red hot and begged me for her details. So who is right and who need new optics? Although I did spot the common denominator amongst the naysayers in that they were regular and frequent posters who seldom post their own photos. Is this a factor and why?
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I know its an impossibly subjective question but surely there should be more consensus about WTF is hot and what is not? Or maybe not:eek:[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, they're not twisted. I'm from America. We don't wear knickers here. Not since the 1930s. These days they're mainly worn in the NFL.
Anyway the topic at hand... Yes I saw the Filipino you posted earlier. In that one shot you just linked she does look like she's an 8 - 8.5, but it's just a face shot, and I seem to remember the pix of her body didn't quite look as great as this one. It's not a natural pose, this one, so again it might be misleading.
As for Goyaye's "hot" girl, the last one, I'd agree she's a solid 8. (Um, hey, you have her contact info? ;) ) (just kidding)
I'm the opposite, type, by the way, don't rate attitude over looks. Looks over attitude for me. Just can't get excited if she doesn't look at least 8ish or so. I dont' need a girl every night. Prefer to go without until I find one worth taking.
I have a feeling it's genetic, this difference. I think some of us tend to spread the seed wide (find more girls attractive) and others more narrowly (picky). I think the hotter a girl is, the less disagreement you find. Easy to know who those are: everyone finds them hot. If just 50% do, that's not the one. But then you get those denial types who'll say, I don't find Marilyn Monroe (or whoever, some girl who's irrefutably universally hot) the least bit attractive; I prefer Pim here (everyone turns to look at the pockmarked 30ish overweight chick at the bar with the droopy boobies and the one gold tooth)
OK you guys passed the test, neither of you are that type. ;)
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]
What does wind me up a little is those assholes who never post photos of their own but always have something negative to say about the photos of braver, more generous members who do.[/QUOTE]
If you post photos, you have to expect they're gonna get commented on. This is a forum. That's what people do here. What do you expect? There's no rule saying guys have to post photos before they can make comments. It has nothing to do with how daring you are. If you don't like getting negative comments, well, it's probbly not a great idea to post photos here then. Negative comments are absolutely inevitable. Some at least. If you want a place where only people who take photos can speak, you should join a photo club. Thats not where you are now.
I guess you could post them along with a message saying: "OK you're only allowed to comment if 1. you want to say something positive or 2. you post pictures yourself."
Then again, you could avoid it also by just posting pics of hot chicks. ;)
[QUOTE=Wendella]...
As for Goyaye's "hot" girl, the last one, I'd agree she's a solid 8. (Um, hey, you have her contact info? ;) ) (just kidding)
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I didn't say that this one is "hot" either, just "very cute", but thanks for agreeing on the mark I gave her. I've met some really hot girls on several occasions, but alas, didn't have my camera or was not allowed to take even a single photo then.
More often than not, those stunners were not great performers, but if you want to know where I've found (among girls available in the P4P market) the best looking girls (according to me) so far in Thailand, it was in Nong Khai one year ago, on Sukpracha Road, at a place located near a parking lot and that is open only when the night has fallen. I haven't been there recently (I mean, late enough in the evening), but when I have the opportunity, I will check this place again and report in the I-San section of this forum. A couple of girls working there were really deserving a 9 or 9.5/10 for their looks (at least for me and people who have a similar taste in local women).
[QUOTE=Daddy07]
The hundreds of beer bars all over Pattaya are mostly populated by plain janes with an occaisional cutie sprinkled here and there. Walking Street freelancers are no better in overall appearence than Beach girls IMHO.[/QUOTE]
--100% accurate.
--Also, lots of the beach girls end up going to walking street later in the night
[QUOTE=Daddy07]
It is easier to find a looker in the best go-go's, because that is where they tend to congragate, but even the very best of them ... Happy, SuperBaby, SuperGirl, etc., display their share of dogs.[/QUOTE]
Agree, and they've gotten worse over the last few years. A lot of the girls are getting fat, too
Basically the stunners don't have to work in the bars anymore. They have rich foreign sponsors. Or, if they are really hot, they are plucked by the rich thais before ever entering the p4p scene.
It's not the end of the world, but things are changing
[QUOTE=Daddy07]
And p4p prices have gone up over the last 3 years. Cuties at Happy were satisfied with 1000b ST not that long ago, but now, as you say, they want 1,5000b. Any cutie you find on Soi 6 will now hold fast for 700b, no longer 500b.[/QUOTE]
Yep, prices are up across the board in general.
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]
The best deal without question, are the free-lancers on walking street after 11PM or so. There price is 500 for ST and 1,000 for LT. I always look for one that dresses nice, not smutty like so many of them do.
That way there is a good chance she has a real job, they are the best. I always also like to find out if they just came down from Bangkok, there really good too.
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What age group?
What do you mean "real job"? You still giving her money for sex?
I've found that girls in their mid/late 20's to early 30's to be the easiest market to work in terms of free/cheap sex. These girls are all past their prime and will gladly take a man, provided you're not a freak. I get offers from these types often, but never take them up. I'm not into old women. But for those of you who are, keep this in mind.
Bill Miami,
I live in Pattaya, and although you have made great contribution it is surprising this comes from you. Your statement about beach road is shocking and so general and naive that I won't even respond to it. But I will say that even cows on Beach road roam to Walking Street after 11pm and Walking Street entrance is at the end of Beach Rd! I see no barrier there! And now even the LadyBoys from Beach Road are hitting Jomtien Beach. Living here or not how can anyone ever know where anyone is coming from.....?
There use to be a site whats hot / whats not? something like that? people would post pictures and people would rate them. After you can see the rating and what is surprising is how the rating vary so much. What might be a 10 to one person is only a 8 and when it comes to putting a number behind the women it just open up a endless conversation that no one is every going to agree! Goyave posted a very nice photo or a girl rating her a (8) and I was thinking tonight I bumped into a girl at a bar and after seeing his post on the (8) the girl I ran into must be a 10, and if Goyave saw her he might say she is a (8). The conversation about rating is a endless non-issue! If you don't have to put a bag over her face just f--k it! Sometimes we should look in the mirror before we go out and get a reality check! Just because we are the payor doesn't mean they aren't rating us? Wonder why the girls are always talking and laughing while you walk by?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]... There use to be a site whats hot / whats not? something like that? people would post pictures and people would rate them...[/QUOTE]
I guess it's this one: [url]http://www.whoshotornot.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]... What might be a 10 to one person is only a 8 and when it comes to putting a number behind the women it just open up a endless conversation that no one is every going to agree! Goyave posted a very nice photo or a girl rating her a (8) and I was thinking tonight I bumped into a girl at a bar and after seeing his post on the (8) the girl I ran into must be a 10, and if Goyave saw her he might say she is a (8)...[/QUOTE]
I never said that my own ratings are not subjective (most of the times, I add "according to me" or "in my humble opinion" when I'm giving a mark). I also might rate some girls very differently than other people who simply never had the opportunity to see them in the nude. And I might also give different ratings for the same girl at various stages of our "relationship". Some girls look better (and for others, it's quite the opposite) with a certain attire and make-up, but are very disappointing once naked and after a shower.
And a good photographer (even without altering the resulting picture with Photoshop or another software) can make you believe on paper that one girl is a stunner, but when you meet her in the real life, she's just cute or slightly above average. One of my ex-girlfriends in France is an actress (she mainly plays in theaters), and she doesn't look the same on the pictures from her casting portfolio than in the real life. When she was in her early twenties, I would have rated her with a solid 7.5/10, but looking at her professional photo album only, many people would have thought that she deserved at least a 9/10 then. The difference between those ratings is mainly due to the photographer's talent and a good lighting...
That being said, I'm a very bad photographer, so, that's why I wrote that some of my pictures don't do justice to the girls! But I hope that most readers now can imagine at least what is a cute girl according to me.
Again, to each his own, but I'd still rather fuck a 7/10 (and these girls are pretty easy to find) with a great attitude than a real stunner who is a starfish. Of course, if the stunner is also a very good performer, she certainly has my preference!
Let me clarify my statement on beach road and its girls. This is the way I should have wrote it the first time and it would not have become an issue. Hopefully, this will put this to rest.
I 100% agree that not all the girls that work on beach road are drug addicts, thieves, crazy or have some kind of sexually transmitted disease. But, the percentage is high enough that for 300 Baht, which is the bar fine at a beer bar or Soi 6 it is not worth the risk to me to avoid these problems.
As for the prices at Happy's or any of the top Go-Go bars for the 6 years I have been it has been 1,500 for ST. End of discussion on this issue, if anybody suggest anything different I am not responding, as your simply wrong. And Buda knows I have spent enough to know this one.
That does not mean before or now you can't get a girl for 1,000 ST out of these bars.
I have said the following before and I will state this again.
I don't negotiate with Thai girls, if they are asking the standard price. For those of you that are new here or are coming on vacation, the reason for this reaches deep into the Thai mentality.
In many cases, they would rather sit there, and this is for any profession and do nothing and make no money, rather than work for a little less than the standard rate. They fell cheated, if they do something for less than they got paid the last time. Why, I don't know, but that is the way it is.
If a taxi driver gets 150 Baht for a certain ride and has not made 1 Baht that day, and you offer 100 Baht, most times they will say no. If they do happen to say yes, they will ***** and moan the entire time about how much they are supposed to get paid, so once again it is just not worth it to me.
As for negotiating with the girls, since the amount of fun you are going to have is directly related to the girls, I never offer to pay them less than the standard rate. I want the girls in a good mood, happy and on there A game.
I also don't pay them more than the standard rate either, unless I am too drunk or they are too hot.
As for the prices on Soi 6, they are 500 for ST, end of discussion once again. Yes, some of the girls will ask for 700 Baht. All you have to do is say something like this, "I heard the price is 500." And virtually every one of them will take it, if not, who cares, there are 1,000 more that will.
In all the time I have been on that street, which might be 1,000 or more I have only had 1 girl hold out for 700. However, let me clarify this once more, to end any potential conflict.
As I mentioned before, I always offer to buy the girl a drink before I take her. I do this because I want to get to know her a little and make sure I like her, she likes me and she is a happy person and fun to be around.
So, by doing this the girl has made a little money off the drink I have bought her. Maybe that is the reason I don't have a problem, I don't know. Also, I am usually not drunk out of my mind, I am polite, I don't stink and I am usually laughing and joking around. This could also be a reason I don't have a problem.
As for the cuties on Soi 6, please anybody that implies you can't find super hotties there; well we have different opinions of the girls then. Also, for whatever reason this seems to be the place quite a few of the new girls just in town for the first time end up.
If you're down there as much as I am, you can even watch there transition from a native village girl to a savvy Soi 6 worker in a matter of months. They start out shy, not saying much, dressing very conservatively, too vociferous, arm grabbing, wildly dressing girls in a very short time.
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]
As for the prices at Happy's or any of the top Go-Go bars for the 6 years I have been it has been 1,500 for ST. End of discussion on this issue, if anybody suggest anything different I am not responding, as your simply wrong. And Buda knows I have spent enough to know this one.
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I'll bite.
I've had plenty from the top gogos for 1000 ST over the years and so have my friends, but latley it's tougher to get this price. And no, I'm not wrong! Maybe it's 1500ST for you because you are you.
Goyave,
Didn't mean to come across as being a critic to your rating but my point which was unclear was to basically say that we all use some type of rating and each time someone will see something else. It's funny but maybe as people say " Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder "
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Goyave,
Didn't mean to come across as being a critic to your rating but my point which was unclear was to basically say that we all use some type of rating and each time someone will see something else. It's funny but maybe as people say " Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder "
LBM[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, LBM, it was clear enough, but I just wanted to mention some of the reasons why people might rate a girl differently than the photographer by only looking at a few pictures.
[QUOTE=Goyave]I didn't say that this one is "hot" either, just "very cute", but thanks for agreeing on the mark I gave her. I've met some really hot girls on several occasions, but alas, didn't have my camera or was not allowed to take even a single photo then.
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Sounds good, about the Isaan info. Where was that again?
Ok yes she's borderline hot in my book. Sorry, no you didn't say that. I'd said I woudln't call anyone under an 8 "hot" then you posted that you rated her an 8, I think that's how I ended up referring to her as hot.
[QUOTE=Goyave]I guess it's this one: [url]http://www.whoshotornot.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
It'd be cool to see a Thai girl site like that, rather than American porn-star wannabes. Have guys vote on all the pics. Only problem is that it's so prone to being distorted by spam-types who'd do multiple votes to boost this one or that one, so probably couldnt' get an accurate reading. They've done studies like this though. Saw one on Discovery where they took a big photo album of photos from country to country doing surveys, rating attractiveness on a scale. Just face though.
[QUOTE=Goyave]I never said that my own ratings are not subjective (most of the times, I add "according to me" or "in my humble opinion" when I'm giving a mark). [/QUOTE]
Actually I think you said this:
[QUOTE=Goyave]my own ratings are not subjective [/QUOTE]
OK maybe I've quoted it a bit out of context. ;)
This whole discussion about stunner and hot or not hot has confused me quite a bit.
Just for me as a reality check, what do you think?