Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2775235]When it comes to the hottest girls, you can always eventually pay them enough to fuck them.

But you can never pay them enough to give you an organic, fully engaged, great time.

That part of the deal, of a session, if it comes at all, comes for free.

It's they who decide to give it, or withhold it, based on how they perceive you, like you, feel about you, etc.

To highlight that, a this week true story.

In Phuket I've been slowly chasing, interacting more like, with a "for me", irresistible cutie for probably six months now.

I'd see her, chat openly, buy her drinks, tip her, have sensual fun, but never sealed the deal to take her home.

She always made more than enough between salary, lady drinks and tips, to rarely need or want to go with customers.

She told me also, that for a price she would, and that that price was high.

It was clearly higher than I was wanting to pay as a local, and not a one week millionaire tourist.

...

As said above, that night she was the one that crossed over the line, she chose me, and I had the windfall of that.

At a price point a few hours later, one that had never been discussed, which was low end and totally acceptable to me.[/QUOTE]Somehow I suspect that your "windfall" would sum to negative if you include all the drinks and tips you wasted on her over 6 months.

Someone else would just have paid the amount she wanted, which in total is probably less than your total, and fucked her 6 months ago.

[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2774965]Going to rent a scooter now (oh boy prices are quoting around 400+) and finish the sight seeing with my wingman and drop him off before heading to soi 6.[/QUOTE]Yes prices are up for high season. Usually they are 150 per day. Most places would not even bargain, but I managed to find one place on Second Road Soi 12 and rented one for my dad for 2800 10 days. Then he would not even ride the thing, so I ended up letting a buddy that just moved to Pattaya use it. I think I had it 8 days then we took it back The lady let my buddy keep it the next 2 days that I had already paid for. She just gave my 1000 deposit back and got the deposit from him.

[QUOTE=DevSagar;2775257]Sorry Sir, you do not get private tables in a lounge kind of setting with sofa and private service in 2. 5 k THB with those kind of clubs like Jannat.

I know it is very high as I would not have done it if alone but got tagged along. Couldn't say no to my European colleagues..[/QUOTE]LOL what a waste of money. Even if the portion you chipped in was let's say 5,000 baht, that's 5 STs you could have had instead of sitting in a loud club 'partying' for a few hours.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2775328]Somehow I suspect that your "windfall" would sum to negative if you include all the drinks and tips you wasted on her over 6 months.

Someone else would just have paid the amount she wanted, which in total is probably less than your total, and fucked her 6 months ago.[/QUOTE]Same thing I was thinking. She did not choose him. He shelled out so much money after so much time. She finally got tired and gave in. I would never "chase" (or court) a person that I have to pay. Either you want the 1000 baht or you don't. Step to the next one.

[QUOTE=TomThumbbs;2775181]Walking Street is Agogos.

I was there a few months ago when Thailand was pushing hard for Indians. For the life of me Pinups and every other Agogo was not teeming with Indian s,. Hencely hence how could they be calling the shots. Several cases they weren't even allowed inside. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]I did not say indians. I said indians / arabs / asians. And trust me. Koreans as an example are paying 10 K in a gogobar without blinking. Learn to read.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2775273]However, when she cut LT to ST because her roommate didn't have the key to the room (translation: "hey, I've got a couple of fish on the line, you need to get back to the bar so we can both reel them in", I simply paid her my ST rate.[/QUOTE]Why do mongers believe this to be the case. Too many times chicks have told me about the key and I have taken them to let the roommate in. Even last month I went to pick up one of my normal chicks for breakfast. She lives in Pattaya Resort. She said that her roommate had not been home in 2 days. I said how do you know. She said because I have the key and she can not get in without me. I always get mad and say why don't you guys make a fucking extra key to make things easier. Usually their answer is that they are too lazy to do it. But you have enough energy to run back and forth everytime someone wants to get in?

Someone earlier mentioned the Key Trick. Here's how it works: you agree on LT with a lady. After an initial boom-boom, she announces that her roommate needs to get in her room, but doesn't have a key, so she has to leave. She expects her LT money.

The solution: be very understanding, but tell her you will pay her LT rate after she returns from her key duties. You will wait for her.

Either she goes away, and you have had a freebie or she changes her story into she just wants to go. So you pay ST and let her go.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2775400]Why do mongers believe this to be the case. Too many times chicks have told me about the key and I have taken them to let the roommate in. Even last month I went to pick up one of my normal chicks for breakfast. She lives in Pattaya Resort. She said that her roommate had not been home in 2 days. I said how do you know. She said because I have the key and she can not get in without me. I always get mad and say why don't you guys make a fucking extra key to make things easier. Usually their answer is that they are too lazy to do it. But you have enough energy to run back and forth everytime someone wants to get in?[/QUOTE]First to admit, I'm a skeptic. Have had a number of [B]memorable[/B] pleasant experiences where I was proved wrong.

But in this case, the [I]smoking gun[/I] was: I told her we could go back to her place, deliver the keys, return to continue. No, her friend was still at the bar (I knew that already from the background sounds in the call). Fine, bar closer, we could go there to deliver the keys, then return. No, friend was afraid to go home alone (hey, I'll play, keep digging). No problem, go to the bar, all leave from the bar, take her home, then return to continue. That's when her train ran out of track. Declined. Rather obvious. I really DON'T think she was concerned with my discomfort, just a simple business decision, a chance at a [I]double header[/I].

The issue was that she was mad that I paid [B]MY[/B] ST rate, [B]NOT [U]HER'S[/U][/B]. The benefit of having an agreement before leaving the bar; [B]clear[/B] when agreement changed, no misunderstanding. If she accepted my LT rate, she accepts my ST rate when SHE changes the contract. The shame was, when she orgasmed, her whole body flushed, and you can't fake that (or maybe she was just allergic to me, who's to say).

The "lost keys", the more traditional "room too cold", etc. [S]...[/S] Why? Just tell the truth, you want to leave for whatever reason. I'm not a warden, free to go. I always appreciated honesty, even if, regardless, there might be repercussions. The lies I find insulting, my ego in not that easily bruised. YMMV.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2775354]I did not say indians. I said indians / arabs / asians. And trust me. Koreans as an example are paying 10 K in a gogobar without blinking. Learn to read.[/QUOTE]Indians, Arabs are in a group of their own. No offense.

Can someone tell me more about LK Metro?

Like prices? Is it better then walking street? Service better?

And before someone says, "use the search function".

1. Go try it yourself. The search function is the worst.

2. I can not google LK metro. I am currently in a porn free country which limits my search results. Vpn does not always work.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2775460]First to admit, I'm a skeptic. Have had a number of [B]memorable[/B] pleasant experiences where I was proved wrong.

But in this case, the [I]smoking gun[/I] was: I told her we could go back to her place, deliver the keys, return to continue. No, her friend was still at the bar (I knew that already from the background sounds in the call). Fine, bar closer, we could go there to deliver the keys, then return. No, friend was afraid to go home alone (hey, I'll play, keep digging). No problem, go to the bar, all leave from the bar, take her home, then return to continue. That's when her train ran out of track. Declined. Rather obvious. I really DON'T think she was concerned with my discomfort, just a simple business decision, a chance at a [I]double header[/I].

The issue was that she was mad that I paid [B]MY[/B] ST rate, [B]NOT [U]HER'S[/U][/B]. The benefit of having an agreement before leaving the bar; [B]clear[/B] when agreement changed, no misunderstanding. If she accepted my LT rate, she accepts my ST rate when SHE changes the contract. The shame was, when she orgasmed, her whole body flushed, and you can't fake that (or maybe she was just allergic to me, who's to say).

The "lost keys", the more traditional "room too cold", etc. [S]...[/S] Why? Just tell the truth, you want to leave for whatever reason. I'm not a warden, free to go. I always appreciated honesty, even if, regardless, there might be repercussions. The lies I find insulting, my ego in not that easily bruised. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Your probing and, for the fun of it perhaps, trying to find a way to solve that "lost key" problem is a great example of Thai girls' talent for conjuring up what I refer to as a "Steel Trap Plot Point", worthy of the best Hitchcock scenarios. Although I think it is usually a lost or only one security key card that is either too expensive to duplicate or the landlord only allows one per room, not just an ordinary key that can be duplicated for 30 baht.

There is no solution to her problem that wouldn't benefit her and penalize you if you were to have paid up the full agreed upon LT amount, right? LOL. You offer a logical solution. Nope, won't work because whatever. So you offer a solution to that new problem. Nope, won't work because whatever. And on it goes. There is no escape, no way out. A Steel Trap plot point. Brilliant.

Thai girls are geniuses at writing that stuff. Covid test results, stock, kept or borrowed photos of those little kits with the two bands, etc have added new narrative twists and turns to the "lost key" plot points for their scenarios.

And the beauty of it is none of those Steel Trap Plot Points are the girl's fault. She can not be blamed. She can not be responsible for you paying a full LT amount but only getting a ST. That is a critical element in Thai culture. It is never their fault. That's why they can't just tell the truth.

Yes, the only way to cut through that steel trap is to do what you did; pay what is fair and accept the fact that now YOU will be blamed for the shocking final act of this Hitchcock movie. Pass the popcorn, please. LOL.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2775460]Why? Just tell the truth, you want to leave for whatever reason. I'm not a warden, free to go. I always appreciated honesty, even if, regardless, there might be repercussions. The lies I find insulting, my ego in not that easily bruised. YMMV.[/QUOTE]TiT and you forget one important thing for Thai. LOSE FACE. So maybe she didn't like you or whatever. Forgot something. Its all about WHITE LIES for them.

For us its frustrating so yeah.

Many ladies try to bail on LT by 1 or 2 am. They try to get their LT money at that time, because the karaoke bars open then, and they want to hit their favorite bar with cash in their pocket.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2775328]Somehow I suspect that your "windfall" would sum to negative if you include all the drinks and tips you wasted on her over 6 months.

Someone else would just have paid the amount she wanted, which in total is probably less than your total, and fucked her 6 months ago.[/QUOTE]You don't get it werqweq.

I fuck often and wherever I want, when I want.

There is always a lady available at a price.

But hollow unengaged fucks are just sticks in holes.

They're just relief.

I truly love and enjoy the feeling of giving chase.

Of valuing someone above the money, and reaping the rewards of that.

Unless you live here you will likely never understand that.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2775337]Same thing I was thinking. She did not choose him. He shelled out so much money after so much time. She finally got tired and gave in. I would never "chase" (or court) a person that I have to pay. Either you want the 1000 baht or you don't. Step to the next one.[/QUOTE]She never gave in Mr E.

There is much more to it that what I would write on here.

She did choose me, she had chosen me a lot earlier.

But she wasn't willing to act on it.

But, having read your forum posts and views on here often enough.

I know that you and I are not cut from the same cloth.

So we will never agree or see eye to eye on this.

Have a nice 2023 punting.