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[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]Okay, I had my first Indonesian girl early in my 3 week trip.

I saw her again a few days later and went sightseeing with her and her friend and then she spent the night again.

Said she was getting a real nanny job in February.

So, every time I would say something like how wonderful she was, she'd say "we're friends" or something similar.

I knew I was falling for her. So when I saw her in Laguna a few more times she would be with friends and invariably I would be with another woman or on the prowl. She knew I was a butterfly.

I kept saying we would see each other again before I left but I didn't want to because I knew I would fall for her.

So she's still in my Facebook list but she's not answered my e-mails lately.

I just didn't understand how to navigate a situation like that. If she's a working girl, why get jealous or mad at me for being a butterfly?

I just feel like I somehow hurt her feelings without meaning to. And, as I told her, I didn't want to see her again because I knew I would fall for her.

She is wonderful and I'd at least like to be friends with her if nothing else.

How do you fall for these women but not break their hearts or yours in the process? There have been a handful I could see marrying but I'm realistic and not ready for that yet.[/QUOTE]

The solution is don't fall for them. What exactly about them are you falling for? Remember they will be sugar sweet when trying to reel you in, once you are hooked they're as bad as any of them. Why do you want to be friends with her? Who gives a fuck if she's upset with you? She fucks for money, which means the men she fucks will pay women money to fuck them. Does she expect she was your first and will also be your last?

Plus Indos and Flippers get old and fat quickly after having kids, at least the Chinese try to stay in shape.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]My comfort zone tends to go to the LT GFE ones so I run the risk of walking that line constantly, I guess. But that is why I love Wanchai.[/QUOTE]From your posts, it seems like you either easily fall in love, or are looking for love.

In an earlier post, you talked about not wanting to break an Indonesian girl's heart, but actually in your entire description of the event it seemed like she was completely neutral without making any overtures towards you and it was you who was falling for her since you were sending her all those emails.

You've also said in several posts how a lot of Wan Chai girls would make great wives. Just how many wives do you want? You seem to be falling for a lot of women very quickly if you're already considering several different ones, albeit at different times, to be wife-worthy. Usually when a person falls in love and wants to get married, they have only one person in mind.

This isn't criticism, it's just that to me it looks like you open your heart and fall in love quite easily and quickly.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]At least you got to do her, I paid her 1000 for a terrible "massage" and could get no further. She sent me the exact same picture you posted, if a girl sends you a picture that is (supposed to be) sexy, wouldn't you get the impression that more is available? I am so fucking angry and feel ripped off... as if anyone should pay 1000 for a massage (only) when you can get a great one for 300. I ordered her out even though I hadn't finished my 2 hours, once it became clear that nothing further was going to happen I told her to get the fuck out. I also considered not paying her but I didn't want to be that much of an asshole so I tossed her the thousand and told her "there, you got your money, congratulations you ripped me off, get teh fuck out of here and never contact me again." Plus she did something strange to my neck and now I have a terrible headache.

She goes by "Cherry" among possibly other names. If anyone ever communicates with the girl in Lustforthrust's picture, BEWARE, she is a scammer who thinks she is really a legit masseuse... I guess the best scammers are those who don't even know they are scammers. STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM HER![/QUOTE]

Johnny,

How many years have you been in HK? You know most HKers are bullies, right? When you gave her 1,000 you looked like a putz; if you gave her 200 and told her to take public transport (millionaires in HK do and she's not), she'd have some respect for you.

Her massage is 600, you offer a 1,000 for an oil massage (her naked body sliding against yours) and take her (bullies are easily bullied). You are not interested in her "600hkd for hour" massage!

She's ugly, I wouldn't be interested in her at all and she ordered the most expensive drink when we first met. I resolved to make her earn it, that was my only motivation, my hard on.
And she smelt bad! I stuck a creamed finger up her ass. I would have done that too, but was afraid of seeing her sh1t on the condom when I pulled put.

She's probably gone cold now. If she does surface in a month when her gambling/Lunar NY shopping getS the better of her, remember she's out to get your money by doing as little as possible. If you get thrills from giving her a taste of her own, then go for it.

[quote=lustforthrust]johnny,

how many years have you been in hk? you know most hkers are bullies, right? when you gave her 1,000 you looked like a putz; if you gave her 200 and told her to take public transport (millionaires in hk do and she's not), she'd have some respect for you.

her massage is 600, you offer a 1,000 for an oil massage (her naked body sliding against yours) and take her (bullies are easily bullied). you are not interested in her "600hkd for hour" massage!

she's ugly, i wouldn't be interested in her at all and she ordered the most expensive drink when we first met. i resolved to make her earn it, that was my only motivation, my hard on.
and she smelt bad! i stuck a creamed finger up her ass. i would have done that too, but was afraid of seeing her sh1t on the condom when i pulled put.

she's probably gone cold now. if she does surface in a month when her gambling/lunar ny shopping gets the better of her, remember she's out to get your money by doing as little as possible. if you get thrills from giving her a taste of her own, then go for it.[/quote]

by "take her" what do you mean? i am not going to do anything without her consent. bullying is one thing, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is another (not saying you raped her, don't misunderstand me).

i'm not interested in her at all, now i'm just pissed and want to make her pay. i want to hate-fuck her smack her around and tear her asshole apart with my cock.

you are absolutely right i looked like a putz and i should not have given her any money at all. i've been here long enough to know better but i wasn't dealing with a girl in wan chai, i just wasn't in that frame of mind and made a huge mistake.

how do you know she gambles?

AFF can mean, as stated, Asian Friend Finder, but can also mean Adult Friend Finder (swinger site) Both are owned by the same company. AFF (2) is no holds barred, everyone is there for same purpose. I have used to connect all over the world and dozens of times here in the states. Especially for asia you will find some pros or semi-pros listed there. Asia Friend Finder on other hand seems to have mostly lady's just looking for a guy. I have had two long term actual relationships + great sex, from ladies I have met there.

Both great hunting grounds.

thank you very much johnny rocket,

i have other personals questions,

i read some pages of this forum, but i never read forun where people say to be safe with some girl becuae after cbj they take std.

my question is do you never take std to go with girl?

cbj is safe?

there is some place where girl are most safe

indonesia gilr are safe?

thai girl are safe?

filipina girl are safe?

please give me a prompt reply

thanks

[quote=johnny rocket]gonorrhea and chlamydia are both common in hk as they are everywhere in the world. they are easily avoidable with proper condom use and if you should happen to get the burning sensation while peeing, discharge from urethra and painful sensation when rubbing up against your undies, go to any hk doctor, be honest about where you got it, and you can get a shot (in the butt) and a course of antibiotics which will take care of the problem within 5 days.

aids, herpes and syphilis are rarer. once again condom use is key.

there should be no problem with daty, it's almost impossible to contract an std in this fashion.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Lexingtonsteel]Thank you very much Johnny Rocket,

I have other personals questions,

I read some pages of this forum, but I never read forun where people say to be safe with some girl becuae after CBJ they take std.

My question is do you never take std to go with girl?

CBJ is safe?

There is some place where girl are most safe

Indonesia gilr are safe?

Thai girl are safe?

Filipina girl are safe?

Please give me a prompt reply

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I smell a troll, gentlemen, but giving him one last benefit of the doubt ...

Use a condom for everything and you have almost zero to worry about as regards STDs. Problem solved.

If you wish to try a BBBJ, then you are taking a risk. You could catch any number of STDs. Some are prepared to take the risk, others are not.

There is no generalised answer that can be given about whether some nationalities are "safer" than others. The solution to your stated concern ... always use a condom.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]I smell a troll, gentlemen, but giving him one last benefit of the doubt ...

Use a condom for everything and you have almost zero to worry about as regards STDs. Problem solved.

If you wish to try a BBBJ, then you are taking a risk. You could catch any number of STDs. Some are prepared to take the risk, others are not.

There is no generalised answer that can be given about whether some nationalities are "safer" than others. The solution to your stated concern ... always use a condom.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Troll? Asking these types of questions, he sounds more like a fecking Retard!

[QUOTE=Thor93]My 1,800 HK got her for the full night.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a popular number. Here's another craigslister with the same quote.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]Troll? Asking these types of questions, he sounds more like a fecking Retard![/QUOTE]


Agreed, Bob.

Lexingtonsteel is a retarded troll.

(Apologies, Jackson, but Lexingtonsteel's posts are begging to be attacked ... thus I smell a troll.)

Cheers

I am familiar with the 141 hotel reservation girls and have used their ST services a few times in the past. A lot of these girls indicate on the web site that they are "negotiable for overnight." For the most part my ST experience has been good and I think an overnight session with the right girl could be infinitely better. My plan therefore, is to meet up with a 141 hottie or two and have a ST tryst. If she is nice and we have a good time, then I will bring up the idea of an overnighter at my hotel.

I know what the LT rate is for Wanchai Filipina bar girls and so I wonder what the LT rate is for Tsim Sha Tsui 141 Chinese mainland girls that ask 700-800hk for ST services. 2000hk?

[QUOTE=Lexingtonsteel]Thank you very much Johnny Rocket,

I have other personals questions,

I read some pages of this forum, but I never read forun where people say to be safe with some girl becuae after CBJ they take std.

My question is do you never take std to go with girl?

CBJ is safe?

There is some place where girl are most safe

Indonesia gilr are safe?

Thai girl are safe?

Filipina girl are safe?

Please give me a prompt reply

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I always take std when I have a girl and when you take 1 std, it doesn't matter if you take another so then you do not have to CBJ. The more you take to others, the less you will have and its better to share than keeping things to yourself.

i have often wondered about this, although i guess i was thinking overnight in her place, not only for sex, but also to save on the hotel.
i have also heard one can stay in some of the saunas pretty much 24 hours, although i guess you would have to sleep in the lounge chairs out in a room where people come and go.
i guess it would be kind of like staying at the y lol.
be interested to hear if anyone has tried either route.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]I am familiar with the 141 hotel reservation girls and have used their ST services a few times in the past. A lot of these girls indicate on the web site that they are "negotiable for overnight." For the most part my ST experience has been good and I think an overnight session with the right girl could be infinitely better. My plan therefore, is to meet up with a 141 hottie or two and have a ST tryst. If she is nice and we have a good time, then I will bring up the idea of an overnighter at my hotel.

I know what the LT rate is for Wanchai Filipina bar girls and so I wonder what the LT rate is for Tsim Sha Tsui 141 Chinese mainland girls that ask 700-800hk for ST services. 2000hk?[/QUOTE]

It was my last night in HK and I decided to head over to Wanchai to see what might be available after deciding to pass on my AFF girl from the first night. Even though I had a standing offer from her for only $1000HK, I was more interested in seeing other options.

Wanchai was busy and in truth there were lots of options. I floated between Neptune II, Laguna, and whatever they call the old Fenwicks. Neptune had the the best selection. They were all looking for at least $2000HK but could be talked down. I just did not see anything though that moved me.

I took a cab back to Kowloon just after 2am and got dropped off at Spicy Fingers. There was nothing going on in there, so I started walking back to my hotel. And as usual I got accosted by the older Chinese women that offer a massage. They all also wanted $2000HK but the price kept dropping as I kept walking.

One particular persistent one kept going with me and finally offered herself up for $1000HK. I decided to be brutally honest and told her she was too old, so she immediately offered up a younger Chinese girl. I was skeptical and told her I really did not want to spend much money that night. She asked what it would take, so I said $500Hk and it had to be a good looking younger girl.

She gets on the phone and says the girl will be there in a few minutes. I got to talking with her and asked where the girl was coming from. She said she was a mainland girl working the hotels, probably a 141 girl that had no business that night.

Sure enough a few minutes later, a really nice looking young Chinese girl shows up. I said ok and we walked to the hotel.

In the room she immediately strips down but wants her $500HK up front. I give and off to the shower we go. She does a good job cleaning me up and then off to the bed. She does a decent CBJ, allows some kissing, and lots of touching. We do the deed in a couple of different positions and it is not bad at all . After the deed she cuddles with me for a bit and then makes a pitch to stay overnight for a bit more, but I don't feel like entertaining her in the morning.

I give her a $100HK tip and she happily goes back off into the night. All in all it was a nice end to the evening and does prove if you hold your ground you can still find a decent bargain even in HK.

Generally, an overnight with a hotel reservation girl is their usual rate + cab fare. It's essentially an outcall to your place.

The common thing among experienced HK punters is that you don't take a hotel girl for an overnighter because the service isn't going to be any better, and it's still most likely going to be a one shot deal (and then to sleep). You're just getting the added thing of sleeping (literally) with a girl next to you. If you want an overnighter with sex multiple times that night and again in the morning, a Wan Chai freelancer is your best bet.

BTW, 141 just refers to an HK site that advertises girls. Hotel girls, or any working girls, aren't called "141 girls."

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]I am familiar with the 141 hotel reservation girls and have used their ST services a few times in the past. A lot of these girls indicate on the web site that they are "negotiable for overnight." For the most part my ST experience has been good and I think an overnight session with the right girl could be infinitely better. My plan therefore, is to meet up with a 141 hottie or two and have a ST tryst. If she is nice and we have a good time, then I will bring up the idea of an overnighter at my hotel. [/QUOTE]