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[QUOTE=J Dougherty]Just back from a short trip to Bangkok. I've been mongering for a few years now, and to be honest, kinda bored of the straight pay-and-fuck, so I try to get off the beaten track, and sample the more interesting activities a city has to offer.
Eden Club: the infamous threesome, and yes, the girls are still ugly as sin! Hmm, thats not really fair. There're are some average looking ones there, but since you only get to pick one, its a crapshoot how the other half will look like. The girl's on the right side of the line (non-anal) tend to look better than the ones on the left. My theory is to pick the best looking one on the left side, she will then pick her partner from the right. That way, at least you'll have established a ground floor in terms of looks Up we go for the standard Eden experience. Double blowjob till CIM, rest, then lesbian/fuck/anal/etc. In between, we get to talk about how she was married, her kids, her husband's family, and hey, even some legal advice for free! It was interesting the first 2 times, but I think I've had my fill of Eden for a while.
BarBar (in Patpong 2): I've never heard of this place before until reading a comment by one of our ISG brothers here. Its a fetish S&M club, and they offer some aspects of BDSM + sex play if that's what you're interested in. It opens at 6pm, and if you're new to BDSM (and shy! ) like me, go early. The cover charge is 900bht, and includes your first drink (subsequent drinks are 350 bht, and 250bht LD). Once you've made your order, you're led to an adjoining room, with black leather couches lining the walls, and some BDSM contraptions in the middle (cages, X-bar, some strappy thing). Then you get to enjoy a 10-15 minutes mild S&M play by a few of their doms and subs. Its not always the same show. Mine involved 2 Doms paddling a Sub on the X-bar, while the next customer saw a show with the gals in the cage. Interestingly enough, the Sub for my show actually came over and licked my shoes at the end! Whoa. ! I had to stop thinking of all the muddy crap I just walked through getting to Patpong
Once the show is over, all 3 cuddle up and tried pressuring me to take them up. IMO, this kills the fantasy. How can you take the Dom seriously now, when 10 minutes ago, she was whining for your money? Anyway, its 4000 bht for 1, 5000bht for 2 girls, and 6000 bht for 3. Well, seing as this was my first time, I figured I'the splurge for 3 (2 Doms + 1 Sub) and enjoy the full experience. I also opted to be a Sub, since what the heck, it looks complicated to be a Dom, and being a virgin in this, its probably easier to be led than lead. After picking up some equipment, off we went to one of the rooms upstairs. I was expecting a full dungeon, but no dice. It's just a dimly litted room with a bed, a cage, an X-Bar and a footstool thingy which I never figured out the use. The Sub helped me undress, then one of the Mistresses bounded me up, while the other. Well, she tied up my balls (ouch! ). We agreed on the safe word 'Heineken', and she asked me how hard I want it, I told her to make it real, babeh! We started off with me pleasuring the Sub, then some spanking action, followed by foot worship, candle wax and more spanking. I was on my knees most of the time, which really started to hurt 30 minutes in. At the end, they bounded me spread eagle on the bed, and drip wax all over me while the Sub sucked me off. Oh, also, I'm sure because of the blindfold, but I don't think there was any lesbian action involved. As far as I can recall, both the Doms remain dressed in their kinky leather outfits.
All in all, it was an intriguing experience. Would I return? No. Maybe its just because I'm new and have unrealistic expectations about the lifestyle, but I was expecting more. Realism. Throughout the whole experience, I couldn't shake the feeling that I was the customer, as the Doms continue to be deferential when they're treating you. This is definitely not something you want as a Sub. The variety is not there too, and I think they could definitely use more creativity in coming up with the procedures. But, as first experiences go, it was interesting, and worth my 7000bht Oh, if you do plan to visit, 2 girls is an optimum number. With 1, there's even less things you could do, and with 3, one is always hanging around not doing much.
Slightly off-topic: I had the pleasure of meeting a local girl when I was there, and we went out together with some of her friends to a local club that night. Let me just say that the go-go and working girls are NOT representative of women in Bangkok. 8 out of 10 of the women I met in the club were complete knockouts. The 10's that I thought I saw in the go-go's, they're actually much closer to 5's when compared to the rest. We club-hopped (wish I could remember the names, but they were in Thai) around that night, all very nice places but mostly frequented by the Thais. I only saw a handful of Caucasians, and as far as I could tell (it was noisy), everyone else, including the band, was speaking Thai. Thank god she and her friends could speak English! And man, these university kids really know how to party. It was a weekday, and the club was packed to the brim. We actually partied till 5-6am, and it was a full crowd all the way to the end. I doubt there were any working girls where I was at, BUT Thai people are naturally friendly, and its very easy to strike up a conversation with them. I think if you go with a friend, and is decently dressed, you can have some pretty good fun mingling around.[/QUOTE]
Great report on Bar Bar s and m club. Very objective . Will definitely check it iut thanks to you. Would love to read more about your clubbing experiences with the non P4p girls. Yes their fave clubs are loud, smoky and most importantly SAFE for farrangs.
5 Rules for handling oneself inside P4P in Thailand
I read these 5 rules from another Website. They are from a guy named Khun Leigh (a savvy local expat who keeps in shape by hitting most of the bars of Nana Plaza as often as possible)
I think the Below rules should be Carefully read by any newcomer or Newbie to Thailand's Bar Scene. Thanks Khun Leigh.
[b]1) Pay As You Go [/b]
This is THE GOLDEN RULE! ALWAYS pay as you go. Never give a lady lump sums of money for any reason. Never fool yourself into thinking that she will like you more if you give her a monthly salary. Never prepay for any service or experience. Some of you may be thinking that this relates back to my first column about how ridiculous it is to "sponsor" a girl. Yes, you are right! With these ladies there is no yesterday and no tomorrow. Only today matters and if you gave her the sun, moon and stars last week she will think you are a bad guy for giving her nothing today. For example, I have a casual friend who was so infatuated with a top dancer from a popular NEP bar that he asked her if she would quit work if he gave her enough money. Her response was that 30, 000 baht a month would do it, so he gave her the money and she stopped dancing. Two weeks later he tells me that she rarely wants to see him and that she always seems too busy to meet! He feels like he spent his money for nothing. He did! I happen to know this gal quite well, so I called her to enquire about her intentions. This is what she told me:
"Leigh, you have to understand the way we think. I spent the 30, 000 by the 3rd of the month and yet he still wants to meet me and spend the night with me FOR FREE! Take last night for instance. I got 3 phone calls. One from him, one from a customer who paid me 4, 000 baht once, and one from a regular customer who always gives me 2, 500 baht. If I go out with customer number one I will get 4, 000, customer number two pays 2, 500, and your friend will give me NOTHING. " She is right. My friend thinks giving her the 30, 000 per month has paid UPFRONT for the whole month. In her mind, ONLY TODAY matters and until the 28th or 29th of the month (when she will try to reel him back in for another 30k on the 1st) he has gone from the most desirable customer to the least desirable. I think that’s what we call Ironic!
Pay as you go relates to all aspects of the experience. Even on a smaller scale, such as paying a bar fine and telling the gal you will come back in an hour. She may be there, and she may not. Depends on whether she gets a better offer. Don’t pay her anything unless you are walking out the door with her.
[b] 2) Enjoy The Game [/b]
Enjoy yourself! This is Paradise for single men and only losing your perspective can change that. I can pretty much guarantee that the guys who pay up front are NOT enjoying themselves. I love seeing the sly smile on one of my favorite lady’s faces when I see them with another customer. I love it when they make provocative facial expressions when the guy’s back is turned. I love it when they tell me all their wild stories. Many guys feel the same way and these guys will always have a great time here. Last week I was in an internet café and an entertainment provider asked me to translate an email for her. She told me it was from her "husband" in England. Ten minutes later she is showing me a photo a guy sent to her in front of a HUGE house in London. I asked if the photo was from her husband in England. She said "that’s my OTHER husband in England. " Well I was cracking up laughing when another farang customer came over to me and he gave me a high five. He said "Man I just love these gals. They are completely SHAMELESS. " Really wish I had come up with that one.
[b]3) Check Out Different Places [/b]
Don’t make the mistake of always going to the same places. Different places have VERY different atmospheres and the gal’s attitudes vary enormously. Popular places like Rainbow and Long Gun are great fun but never forget that with more customers ladies' attitudes often deteriorate. Avoid Japanese bars at all costs. Nothing against the Japanese. Most are gentlemen, I rarely see one arguing over his bill or causing a fight. However, they overpay for service and expect so little in return. Any local guy will tell you that it’s a HUGE risk taking a lady from a primarily Japanese bar such as Rainbow. The ladies get lazy and spoiled. Many don’t even smile!
[b]4) Never Forget That You Are The Customer [/b]
You are the customer and therefore have 99% of the power. Never forget this. If there is anything not to your liking just finish your drink, and go to another place. My attitude is that if the lady throws out any "qualifications" I am not interested. Such as, "I can’t do. , I never do. , I don’t have time for. , I have to be back here in an hour" etc. No problem Nice to meet you. See you later.
[b]5) Pay As You Go [/b]
Yes, this is the same as number one and this is THE GOLDEN RULE. Remember this and everything else will fall into place. 95% of the horror stories I hear are from guys who broke this rule. Pay as you go. Enjoy the game. Check out lots of different places. Never forget that you are the customer and have the power. Oh, and PAY AS YOU GO!
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