Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2785221]Pattaya always low in quality

To me Pattaya has always been low in quality but high in quantity. I remember spending 2 hours and making multiple round of beach road trying to find a looker [/QUOTE]You're not going to find a Maserati (top gogo girl at 3k baht ST + 2k BF) in a Suzuki dealership (Beach Road 500 baht). To my knowledge no one has ever come on here saying you can find lookers on Beach Road. It's for people who come to Pattaya on a strict budget or are very frugal. It's like me coming on here saying all of Pattaya is really expensive because I ended up buying 20 drinks for a top model at Palace (4k drinks + 5k LT + 2k BF +3k drinks/snacks at Hollywood) when there are 1000s of G Clubs, BJ bars, Soi 6/7/8, beer bars, massage joints where girls will go with you for 1 k baht.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2785120]So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?

Did you visit pinup agogo?[/QUOTE]Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok. Street walkers to me are better in Pattaya, but I'm not seeing a high volume of girls out there. Not sure what the real number is, but definitely less then 100 but you have to walk quite a bit. The massage parlors are the real gem to me when it comes to Bangkok. Definitely good looking girls at very reasonable prices. Pattaya makes my feet hurt because I have to walk so much to find someone doable.

I remember walking by Pin Ups on Sunday and Monday night, but I can't recall if the girls standing outside were hot. I'm fairly certain they were just average as no one really made my head turn on walking street. I probably wouldn't go in there though as they will probably fleece me for lady drinks, and charge me outrageous prices for BF and ST. Let me know if that isn't the case. If it's within reason I may go in there to do some scouting around.

As for best mongering places, I've been to Germany, Thailand, and Colombia this year and I still stand by my assessment. I don't have an Asian fetish, I just like girls of all ethnicities pretty much equally. There are some ethnicities that I'm not very attracted to, but definitely I'm into Latin, Caucasian, and Asians so I judge each area as fairly as I can. And to say girls in Latin America have big fake boobs and big boots is just ignorant. I personally prefer slim, petite and natural girls and they are in abundance in Germany and Colombia.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2785120]So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?

Did you visit pinup agogo?[/QUOTE]I've spent serious time in all 3 places. My thoughts on best lookers.

Best Gogo Bar girls and clubs goes to Pattaya, even before COVID. The sheer number of them is crazy. However. If we are talking about outside of just Gogo Bars.

Civilians girls is Bangkok. Freelancers is Bangkok including Thermae and night clubs. Soapies is Bangkok. Remember the Lords Palace? 10,000 a girl? Kapoo is Bangkok. KTV and Thaniya is Bangkok. Online and sidelines girls is Bangkok. The Pimp?

Phuket is the runt.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.[/QUOTE]I heard it's still very busy and high season right now, so most of the good looking ones are probably wifed up with a tourist for a few weeks or months. Seems that you're late to the party and dealing with the leftovers. When I was there a few months ago the best looking girls were at the big gogos on LK metro and soi boomerang. Try those. The rest of Pattaya will have 6 and below. You can find a good looker in Honey 2 soapy way down second road past soi 6 but be prepared to pay a lot for it and forget long time.

What exactly are you looking for? If you are looking for long time GF, it's better to get on tinder or TF and search cities outside of pattaya and import her to you for a week or more. I met some super hot women in Chang Mai.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785275]Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok. [/QUOTE]You must be a seasoned GoGo bar guy if you are able to judge quality from just walking around and not going in. FYI hostesses stand outside on WS, rarely dancers do unless it's a small club. Like I said before, the best GoGo bars in Nana or Cowboy would not make top 12 on Walking Street. How do I know? I saw Indians being allowed into Rainbow Bars last night.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2785326]I heard it's still very busy and high season right now, so most of the good looking ones are probably wifed up with a tourist for a few weeks or months. Seems that you're late to the party and dealing with the leftovers. When I was there a few months ago the best looking girls were at the big gogos on LK metro and soi boomerang. Try those. The rest of Pattaya will have 6 and below. You can find a good looker in Honey 2 soapy way down second road past soi 6 but be prepared to pay a lot for it and forget long time.

What exactly are you looking for? If you are looking for long time GF, it's better to get on tinder or TF and search cities outside of pattaya and import her to you for a week or more. I met some super hot women in Chang Mai.[/QUOTE]Definitely not looking to import something to wine and dine. Just whatever is here is what I'll take. I'm a variety type of person. Short term, hit and quit it is all I want. I could overpay, but I hate doing so. I've seen so many mongering places just destroyed due to over tourism, and I rather not add to the problem. Every city is no longer as good as it use to be so I can't compare locations to the past anymore. Now I can only compare each place to their contemporaries.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785354]Definitely not looking to import something to wine and dine. Just whatever is here is what I'll take. I'm a variety type of person. Short term, hit and quit it is all I want. I could overpay, but I hate doing so. I've seen so many mongering places just destroyed due to over tourism, and I rather not add to the problem. Every city is no longer as good as it use to be so I can't compare locations to the past anymore. Now I can only compare each place to their contemporaries.[/QUOTE]I hear you and agree that places aren't what they used to be. But it's not over tourism that did it. It's that the world in general is changing. The economy is motivating mongers to save money by finding gfs and sugar babies than to be butterflies. It's actually less expensive these days to to have 2 or 3 regulars than to have a lot of variety. So that's less customers for girls which motivates them to not work the streets anymore and settle down as well. It's more profitable for them to have 1 or 2 sugar daddies and stay home or even more profitable to just get pregnant by the right guy. I hate to tell you this, but the mongering game itself is falling out of fashion for a combination of reasons. So might as well just adjust your expectations and try to close your eyes and enjoy the mid level and low level quality faces and try to find the body types that you like. As the saying goes, you may not be able to get a 10 but you can fuck five 2's.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2785338]You must be a seasoned GoGo bar guy if you are able to judge quality from just walking around and not going in. FYI hostesses stand outside on WS, rarely dancers do unless it's a small club. Like I said before, the best GoGo bars in Nana or Cowboy would not make top 12 on Walking Street. How do I know? I saw Indians being allowed into Rainbow Bars last night.[/QUOTE]Oh No Indians. LOL. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2785372]I hear you and agree that places aren't what they used to be. But it's not over tourism that did it. It's that the world in general is changing. The economy is motivating mongers to save money by finding gfs and sugar babies than to be butterflies. It's actually less expensive these days to to have 2 or 3 regulars than to have a lot of variety. So that's less customers for girls which motivates them to not work the streets anymore and settle down as well. It's more profitable for them to have 1 or 2 sugar daddies and stay home or even more profitable to just get pregnant by the right guy. I hate to tell you this, but the mongering game itself is falling out of fashion for a combination of reasons. So might as well just adjust your expectations and try to close your eyes and enjoy the mid level and low level quality faces and try to find the body types that you like. As the saying goes, you may not be able to get a 10 but you can fuck five 2's.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't go that far. Europe and South America still have pretty strong lineups with fresh new faces everyday. Thailand has it's own share as well. It's just the prices have inflated in certain areas with too many tourist. For example in Colombia Parque Lleras I could easily find hot chicks for 150 k about 3 years ago. Now I can't find one for less then 300 k with reduced service! Too many over paying tourist there now. So now I move on to other avenues in Medellin that the tourist use less of therefore prices and services are still good. Same with Germany, just got to go to the right clubs which in general are places less frequented by tourist.

Now is High Season, when the 2 Week Millionaires come, fall in love with bargirls, and take them off the market for a month or two. Don't expect top tier ladies to be awaiting you in Pattaya now, come back in four months.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785471]Same with Germany, just got to go to the right clubs which in general are places less frequented by tourist.[/QUOTE]Which clubs are you referring to?

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785275]Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]It's FREE to walk in! I've never gone with any BKK BJ bar girls yet I keep walking by. It's FREE! Who knows one day I may find the girl of my dreams working in one of those bars. Rookie mistake judging bars based on the number of girls you see on the street. It's like those guys here who make their judgment of how good Thailand is by watching Youtube videos. I guess I was the same. Before I came to Thailand for the first time I used to see those horrid photos in the Photo Gallery forum and said I ain't doing any of those girls!

Not really fair to compare girls who work at Nana vs Soi 6. Those are 2 very different rate levels. It's like comparing Thermae girls to BJ Bar girls.

Just my 2 cents!

Like most topic that comes around goes around, like prices, cheap charlie stuff reading the biggest problems when it comes to looks? Many say it but don't really believe it is human nature or as we get older we all start to do it. We say we understand but the next word out of our mouth is the same easier said than done as people say!

What we all say I believe " Looks is in the eye of the beholder, another mans trash is another mans treasure ".

The biggest problem is people putting a number after the object. I can't find 9,10, they are 1,2,3, that is the problem? We forget we all have standards looking and being are two different things I've been with guys at places who like them slims, some like big tits some don't, then many like myself start with the feet, legs up, to the ass, when it comes to face if something attracts me then I start to read their face they could be dark light skin it doesn't matter I start to analyze their body language facial expression that is a start. Too many just get me a young trophy to fuck a 9. 10. Incorporate looks only that to me is an ingredient for disaster.

Sure if I can get beauty and she fucks like a rabbit and ticks all the boxes including her personality that would be just great but after all the years here good luck with that! The best one I have in the sack has been a showgirl with saggy tits, an older GC who work her butt off for me in more ways than one, an older massage girl who is appreciative when a guy wants to sponsor her and take her away from the business stops working in the business for good and dedicates herself to the sponsor. These cases are rare really rare from my experience. I know this massage girl on Soi Honey, and for 10 years now we are friends and keep in touch she will never be more than that but we do get together from day one I knew she was a super start although older pre-covid clear a good 200,000 baht a month without a sponsor she lives now with her daughter a Soi down from me just purchased a 6.5 million baht estate. Looks average, and the leg is a bit crook but she is a rock star, and from customers who come when she is free a great companion on trips. She is by far a 10 but she knows customer service!

Take the number label away shut down your eyes to focus on one thing slow down when walking down places like Soi 6, as noted even when you are cut for the time it isn't going to get better if you rush through the process slow down, and let the game come to you if it doesn't no one is ever going to repeat their best experience anywhere nor is your dream standing on one corner of a Soi.

Whenever the opportunity arises I go to Bangkok, the place is larger there are more options even as noted better looking but as noted who decide it, I've sat in some places and friend says she is a beauty a 10. I look and say it's okay We are different why put a number on your trip that's the problem as I see it.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2785574] I've sat in some places and friend says she is a beauty a 10. I look say its okay We are different why put a number on your trip that's the problem as I see it.[/QUOTE]I was on a very exclusive private board with around 50 members. There was one guy on the board who had a totally different numbering system for looks than the rest of us. He said every girl starts at a 7 even if she has no teeth! Half his girls are 9+ and 10's. For me a 7 is a girl I may buy a drink for if she's dirty but likely wouldn't go with unless she was 1000 baht. I have never seen a 9+ or 10 in Thailand but I have in Vietnam and Jakarta. Haven't seen a 10 since FKK and even that was back in 2010 or so.

I don't care what a person's number is. Like you said we all have different scales and what we think is good looking. What I am opposed to are guys who sit at home on YouTube or say there are no nice girls when they NEVER walk into the bar, basing their rating on who is standing outside. If this were the case, the Bachelor in LK should have had the best lineup in Pattaya since imo their Hostess girl was the best looking one. Also, I never see girls standing outside of Booze Lounge in the Darkside yet imo that is the only bar on the Darkside that has young pretty girls (small sample size). Guys on here would report back that Booze wasn't busy cause no girls were standing outisde.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]I've been here for three days, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1,000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger. In regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia.[/QUOTE]I would be interested in some "top down analysis" from the Old Pattaya Hands on this.

What big picture factors are keeping the better looking girls out of circulation in Pattaya? Has high season ended early this year? Are the big spending, easy-to-please guys from East Asia staying away? Or perhaps the European punters have finally thrown in the towel? Have the hotties found a way to earn without hooking up with the naughty boys? Has the Thai economy gone into overdrive during China's COVID lockdown, creating lots of good jobs at high wages?

Or maybe the girls have lost touch with what the naughty boys want to see. Just my opinion, but the "Pattaya Look" favored by the girls is well and truly counter-productive. They have fooled themselves into thinking it's OK to gain weight, provided they get a ridiculous boob job or deface their skin with mural-sized tattoos. I know. I know. They wouldn't look that way unless they were making some kind of money. In which case we have nobody but ourselves to blame for spend money of such unattractive specimens.