Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2786518]Visiting an FKK is on my bucket list. And you just poured some cold water on it. What changed so drastically in the last 8 years I wonder. Understand this is off topic for this location but would love to hear it from the horses mouth.[/QUOTE]The pandemic has totally devastated the talent pool. I was there last February and things were definitely not as good as they once were. However I look at mongering in Europe as a whole and FKK's are just part of my overall mongering. I visit many other places around Europe as well. FKK's are still lots of fun. Go to one of the bigger and better clubs and it's great to spend all day there. Free food, saunas, swimming pools, and hot naked girls walking around so the entry fee is worth it to me. 50 euros can still get you basic service from any chick in an FKK, but I often opt for the 100 euros for 1 hour including DFK and BBJ. When I was there the bigger clubs still had plenty of 8's and 9's, but the smaller clubs were total trash and a waste of time. Hopefully now that COVID is a thing of the past and the talent is returning. I'll find out in April when I return to Europe!

I read this rating stuff a shit load and to me, it makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever coming from guys who just throw out a random number. They have no basis for their ratings. First of all a 10 is PERFECT score. How they hell can you tell what her body looks like from a picture or with clothes on? Tits maybe sloppy. Giant pussy lips that hang. Stretch marks underneath the ass. She gets old. And what about make up off? So how do you rate them a 10? Stupid. That's PERFECT. Come on now.

Then for there to be 9,8,7,6. There must be 1,2,3,4. Or the scale isn't a fucking scale. You take a sample population like all the girls at Nightwish bar Soi 6. You line them up from ugliest to hottest or who would you fuck first to last. Then you can assign them rating numbers. That's how I see a scale works. So when guys say a girl is 7. What does that mean? Better than 70% of all women ages 18-68? What's the population sample we are talking about? Then they argue and debate on their rankings. Silly. So I'll make it easy.

Not fuckable at all.

Fuckable if she paid me.

Fuckable for free / dating.

Fuckable I will pay.

Fuckable I will over pay.

I will earn my red wings and over pay.

I will let her piss in my mouth and use my tongue as toilet paper and over pay.

These are a few of my recent "fuckable I will pay. " Not the prettiest or best lookers, one kind of funky looking. But as I look at the crowd on Khaosan the other night, I would not trade these girls in the pics for 95% of the civilians females aged 18-68 that I saw. Especially when I've seen them naked already. So then you have your population sample in Khaosan, then you can scale and assign numbers accordingly.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2786395]Ok, so basically the two week millionaires are cock blockers.[/QUOTE]Talk about taking it to extremes, a bargirl I know met a guy over Christmas, he went home and just came back, and they got married in the temple today.

I guess she will be off the market for a while.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2786558]T50 euros can still get you basic service from any chick in an FKK,[/QUOTE]I can choose ANY girl at Oase, Sharks, Palace in FRA and Samya in Cologne and have sex with her for 50 euro? This is contrary to everything I have been hearing for the top girls.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786585]I can choose ANY girl at Oase, Sharks, Palace in FRA and Samya in Cologne and have sex with her for 50 euro? This is contrary to everything I have been hearing for the top girls.[/QUOTE]Well to be fair I mainly opted for the 100 euro all inclusive, but I did session a couple times for basic service at 50 euros without issues.

Everyone agrees on a standard of beauty when it's obvious. Every girl in this video is smoking. Unless you're gay you would agree. They are all grandmas now but there is a standard out there and this video is it.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=128LI6_4L-s[/URL]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786536]
2000 barfines have been around since 2016. Sensations and What's Up to name a couple at that time.

Model drinks have been 200 baht since they introduced the model (ie topless) system in 2017(?). Are you saying drinks for all gogo girls are 200 now? [/QUOTE]Agree with what you say on the FKK's. The golden days are over for sure.

And it seems that barfines are 2 K now EVERYWHERE. So not only in the top5 gogos but. Lets make it the top 20?

Same for LD that are just up for inflation (excuse).

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2786470]Guys,

Talked to a manager of a gogobar today and he said barfines are now 2. 000 THB and up these days? Can someone confirm?

Seems that this (and lady drinks going into 200 THB and higher) makes Pattaya not worth the trip anymore if you are into Gogobars?

For obvious reason I won't disclose the name of the Gogo this guys work but I know him for several years and don't think he got a reason to lie.[/QUOTE]You apparently do frequent Gogo bars. 2000 barfine has been the amount for models at most GoGo bars. Coyotes barfines are different and hostesses as well. Pricing before midnight and after midnight is a factor as well. It's been this way even before COVID. There are places still with no models like Baccara, Windmill, etc where it's much cheaper. Barfines are rolled into the girls salaries and contract. So yeah, if you are paying 2000 plus 3000ST plus 4 200 baht drinks. All of that goes to the girl. 5800 for ST. This might only translate to $175 for a couple of hours to tourists, but considering cost of living index and money value in Thailand (3. 5 X) is actually about $600 in what they can spend it on. So yeah, it's not cheap. There are guys who spend 10,000 on up a night for 1 girl.

Those who are frequent flyers at Gogo bars and have a good reputation with the staff and girls get them at much cheaper prices. I've had girls pay their own barfines out of their own pocket just to come party and be able to leave early. I've had girls accept 1 drink or 0 drink. I've had models only accept 2000ST and even 1500ST if they see me before or after work. Long stay guys have it much easier than weekend warriors. I've been both. I like the cheaper option as long as I am not sacrificing quality.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2786590]Well to be fair I mainly opted for the 100 euro all inclusive, but I did session a couple times for basic service at 50 euros without issues.[/QUOTE]100E for 30 minutes is now common in Hessen clubs, it started in Sharks and has spread to a lot of other places. Up in Dusseldorf, you can find a few places where the price is still 50E. What's even worse, is that the girls charge more for what they call extra's which may include BBBJ. Don't forget about the cost of admission, 30E - 80E depending on the club and time.

Just spent ten days in Pattaya. Most of the gogo's barfine is 1500 baht. One place the mama told me 2000 baht. I can't remember which place. Pin ups has the best line-up but most nights in there it's packed with young Asian guys. Other nights it's not. Even the weekend it wasn't packed. So it's worth checking out to see how busy it is. When it's packed I just turn around and leave because I won't be able to get any attention from the hot girls. Tanta is cozy and comfortable and pretty much a white guy place. I also liked XS and Palace and did some barfines at all these. So maybe Pin-ups was the 2000 place because I don't think I barfined a girl there. Overall the scene felt more welcoming than 4 years ago but the talent not as good.

I probably met about 8 thaifriendly girls. One was very good looking and similar to her photos. One was so different I only gave her taxi money and said good-bye. The others ranged from good enough to make my dick hard to "I only want a massage please". I learned that girls asking 1500 baht are girls that I'm not interested in meeting. TF is a real crap shoot but something to do during the daytime hours if you're just otherwise hanging out. I didn't even visit soi 6 this trip as that's really not my scene.

Every night I walked from about center strip to walking street. Lots of girls saying "Hello," the entire way. Of course more as I would near WS. I almost never interacted with the girls except to offer a polite "Hello," back at them. But my second to last night there was sort of a stunner along the way. We chatted a couple minutes and she sent me a Line message as I don't always carry my phone with me. I wasn't interested in taking her right then because it was still early only about 10 PM and I didn't take a pill yet to make my dick hard. So anyhow she came over to my hotel the next night and it was by far the best session of my trip. She's 20 years old, 43 kg and no baby. Told her she should be working in a gogo club and she said everybody tells her that but said she doesn't want a boss. So anyhow there are needles in the haystack to be found on beach road. I've spent months in Pattaya and finally had my first beach road girl haha. As she left told me she's not supposed to have feelings for customer but does for me. Yeah she's pretty new to the game. Her short time price is 1300 baht. I haven't asked enough girls to know the going rate out there but it would be apples and oranges anyhow.

Regarding FKK clubs yes unfortunately the scene has completely gone to hell there. Don't go unless you just want to check that box. Glad I visited many of them the couple years before Covid as prices just basically doubled post-covid. It makes no sense at all and I will no longer be making an annual trip to Frankfurt.

I'm still in Thailand and so will not be giving away any hot girl contacts that I've met. On the other hand if someone has something to trade I'm open-minded on that. Same in Bangkok.

Enjoy and treat the girls well.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786536]No more Hungarians, Polish, Czech, or Russian girls and void of any nationalities other than Romanian and Bulgarian. Not that there aren't the odd super hot Ro girls but before you could walk in to many different clubs and find 20-30 girls you want to go with. Now you're lucky to find more than 1. Gets expensive looking for girls after paying 50 to 80 euro entry fee for 2 or 4 clubs per day. Prices for what I consider a basic session including DFK has jumped from 50 to 150 euro and if you want CIM, anal, DFK, BBFS, etc add 50 euro extra for each item you want. Used to be 100's of girls in a larger club now there's like 50-70. I'll be there in June again and hope to be able to give a more positive update.

Just a warning don't believe most of what you read on the FKK forums. If you notice there are a ton of handles who only seem to know a handful of girls. I can't be the only person who finds that odd.



Can't confirm for you if you don't name the bar. 2000 barfines have been around since 2016. Sensations and What's Up to name a couple at that time. They started the tiered BF. They were both in the top 5 gogo bars at the time so could do it. Best deal back in those days that had decent girls was Happy agogo.

Model drinks have been 200 baht since they introduced the model (ie topless) system in 2017(?). Are you saying drinks for all gogo girls are 200 now? Don't slam Pattaya drink prices. Go buy some lady drinks at some of the BKK or Phuket gogo bars. You'll be wishing you were in Pattaya.

Drink prices don't bother me at all. I look at it like the price of admission to a boring movie. However, with prices increasing I both expect more DFK and mutual groping. Also no request for a second drink any time soon.[/QUOTE]Wow wtf Germany has tripled in price up to 150? That's insane. What about the red light houses and europarks?

[QUOTE=Bluat;2786590]but I did session a couple times for basic service at 50 euros without issues.[/QUOTE]Basic service is mean no FK and CBJ?

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2786645]Just spent ten days in Pattaya. Most of the gogo's barfine is 1500 baht. One place the mama told me 2000 baht. I can't remember which place. Pin ups has the best line-up but most nights in there it's packed with young Asian guys. Other nights it's not. Even the weekend it wasn't packed. So it's worth checking out to see how busy it is. When it's packed I just turn around and leave because I won't be able to get any attention from the hot girls. Tanta is cozy and comfortable and pretty much a white guy place. I also liked XS and Palace and did some barfines at all these. So maybe Pin-ups was the 2000 place because I don't think I barfined a girl there. Overall the scene felt more welcoming than 4 years ago but the talent not as good.

I probably met about 8 thaifriendly girls. One was very good looking and similar to her photos. One was so different I only gave her taxi money and said good-bye. The others ranged from good enough to make my dick hard to "I only want a massage please". I learned that girls asking 1500 baht are girls that I'm not interested in meeting. TF is a real crap shoot but something to do during the daytime hours if you're just otherwise hanging out. I didn't even visit soi 6 this trip as that's really not my scene.

Every night I walked from about center strip to walking street. Lots of girls saying "Hello," the entire way. Of course more as I would near WS. I almost never interacted with the girls except to offer a polite "Hello," back at them. But my second to last night there was sort of a stunner along the way. We chatted a couple minutes and she sent me a Line message as I don't always carry my phone with me. I wasn't interested in taking her right then because it was still early only about 10 PM and I didn't take a pill yet to make my dick hard. So anyhow she came over to my hotel the next night and it was by far the best session of my trip. She's 20 years old, 43 kg and no baby. Told her she should be working in a gogo club and she said everybody tells her that but said she doesn't want a boss. So anyhow there are needles in the haystack to be found on beach road. I've spent months in Pattaya and finally had my first beach road girl haha. As she left told me she's not supposed to have feelings for customer but does for me. Yeah she's pretty new to the game. Her short time price is 1300 baht. I haven't asked enough girls to know the going rate out there but it would be apples and oranges anyhow.

Regarding FKK clubs yes unfortunately the scene has completely gone to hell there. Don't go unless you just want to check that box. Glad I visited many of them the couple years before Covid as prices just basically doubled post-covid. It makes no sense at all and I will no longer be making an annual trip to Frankfurt.

I'm still in Thailand and so will not be giving away any hot girl contacts that I've met. On the other hand if someone has something to trade I'm open-minded on that. Same in Bangkok.

Enjoy and treat the girls well.[/QUOTE]Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2786665]Basic service is mean no FK and CBJ?[/QUOTE]That's right, pretty basic. A quick hit it and quit it. Probably not most guy's thing but they are smoking hot so it's not hard for me to nut. I don't need BBBJ and DFK from all girls. DFK sometimes disgust me thinking about how many dick she sucked that day and if she used mouth wash.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2786666]Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.[/QUOTE]Think of it this way, Thailand is a beautiful country where you have beautiful malls, cheap amazing food, amazing shopping, beautiful islands, and a rich culture. Any girl you are able to get is just icing on the cake. I would never choose this as my go-to location for mongering, but I enjoy a great vacation and if there are girls that I can find to fuck then all the better. It may take some time, but if persistent then you will find something to your liking in regards to looks and price. I have in both Bangkok and Pattaya.