[QUOTE=Showdown; 1552823]Backing up Mr. E / QUOTE]Hey, I need new tires for my Porsche. I don't use it in the winter but spring is here and its time. I could let the front go but the back 2 are shot. Whadda ya dink?
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[QUOTE=Showdown; 1552823]Backing up Mr. E / QUOTE]Hey, I need new tires for my Porsche. I don't use it in the winter but spring is here and its time. I could let the front go but the back 2 are shot. Whadda ya dink?
At first I'm thinking, dominican women are horrible and desperate working girls. Just based on the recent postings.
But when some of you are bedding women with 4 kids, you are inviting trouble! What do you honestly expect from an uneducated single mother who have been fucked over by men? Then you rent them a house or pay their bills! Are they your girlfriends, friends with benefits, working girls? You got to define the rules for them.
Or are some of you getting caught up in the sex and lost your control?
These aren't rhetorical / judgmental questions, I'm really trying to understand why the poor choices! Is your physical appearance a factor? I'm sure not all Dominicanas have kids by 18, at least not college students!
I've made poor decisions but avoid repeating them. One time I really thought this girl (Cuba) was the one and on my next trip, I got her around $100 worth of clothes. And you know what were the first words out of her mouth while she was checking the gifts?". And where is the cold weather jacket I asked you for?" No kidding, that's what she said to me and forgot to say thank you. You know what I did? Told her to leave and not come back. Kept calling and calling and had her mom even call me and plead with me.
I hope there are positive experiences there. And BTW, I have no interests in p4p! I'm looking for semi and nonpros
[QUOTE=Showdown;1552823]Moral of the story. Be like Mr E. Have sex with them. And then leave them. No money. If you do it the request will never end. And you will get nothing for it.[/QUOTE]LOL. I don't do them like that. As a matter of fact, for me this thing about chicks asking for money just started with a few new chicks. Most of the chicks I have, I have known for years and they have never asked me for a dime. I think I just ran into a bad batch recently. But like I said, you have to nip it in the bud from the beginning. The first time they ask you have to stop them right there and explain to them that you are not rich and you have your own bills and family to take care of and you are not going to be giving them money. Like Showdown has shown you, once you go down that road ain't no turning back, so why even start?
One of my girls down in Lima, Peru who I have been with for five years needed $200 for school last month. I have never given her a dime besides $10 or so for taxi to get to work and lunch the days she left me. We are supposed to go on a trip together to Mancora, Peru at the end of July. I told her she had to make a decision. I will give her the money for school, but we will not be taking the trip. She decided that school is way more important so I gave her the money for school. She sent the receipt where she paid and everything. For Easter she wants to go visit her sisters in Trujillo, Peru. She asked me for $70 for that a couple of days ago. She even said I can pay myself with my card on the bus company's website. All I had for her was one word, NO. She said okay baby I understand.
You have to train them from the beginning. HOW you train them is the key. You can train them that you will be there with money and other goods whenever they ask or you can train them not to ask you for anything. 20 years ago I had a shirt that said Don't Ask Me 4 SHIT. I wish I still had it. Got a picture wearing it back from Freaknik 94 though.
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1552823]I had a girl I pulled out of the streets of Sosua.
Spent alot of money on her and her four kids.
Paid her rent, food, light bill everything.
Would go every two weeks and see her and bring her 200-300 dollars worth of stuff from Wal-Mart (the things everyone in life needs).
This girl would still ask for money and minutes on her phone atleast 5 times a week.
I was going to Western Union so much the cashiers knew my name!
I finally got fed up with her the day she demanded I give her 1k to fix her car. Between the constant money demands, her bad attitude, and the horrible place she lived (Boca Chica) I blocked her number and whatsapp and moved on. To this day every few months she will send me a whatsapp from a different phone number. I just delete and move on.
Fast forward to today. I have a gf in Santo Domingo.
I got her a house in Santo Domingo (rented for 7k pesos) after seeing and visiting her in that wretched apartment she was living in.
I bought her the water tank for the top of the house so she always has water.
Got her a new fridge
Got her cable.
Send her money for food.
Now the problem is she knows if she ask for money she will get it.
For example she recently asked for money for food. Ok I sent her 4k pesos.
That night when I talked to her via Skype she pointed out the day before she had bought new paintings. Paintings? You don't have food and you bought paintings?
I had told her she was responsible for paying the internet and the electricity. I did this to give her a sense of responsibility. She has never payed either because she never has the money despite the fact that every time I visit there is something new (and irrelevant) she has purchased.
And what has she bought me in the year I have been with her? 2 shirts.
Now her family, who I have grown to dislike, realizes that the rich gringo is around so they are always asking her to ask me to buy things for them.
In addition when I leave they all show up to use or eat or drink whatever I have brought her from the States. Now that she has cable they all show up to watch tv.
Her dad, who I bought a phone for, will not travel the 10 minutes by motorbike to say hello to me when I am in town yet when I leave he shows up the next day to watch cable.
My girl works in a hair salon and I know for example she had about 10 clients this past weekend. Yet she called me today asking for more money for food.
I am now trying to get out of this situation with the girl I am with now because I am tired of sending money let alone the airplane tickets and taxis in addition to the money I spend when I am there.
No matter what morally I am on the hook for a year to pay the rent because I moved her out of her hell hole into a house. Still trying to figure out how to let this girl go because she does love me a great deal.[/QUOTE]I AM trying to be a smart ass because listen to yourself. You are a Mark! You are sweet! Sweet. Like bear meat. You have a sincere heart of gold and the morality of a true Gentleman. Stop being the pussy you fuck. They are going to use you until the last peso is given. You need to go out and buy JT MONEY's cd "Ho Problems" Listen, study, and learn the lyrics my brother. I remember your first story and I was dumbfounded. I was giving you cyber dap when you had enough and kicked the last chica to the curve. To hear you are back in the frying pan befuddles me! You are a walking positive reinforcer of negative actions. Dude there is more love in this forum from strangers than in a chica who doesn't respect you. Where is her love? In the bedroom some where between the 50 pumps? It ain't outside in she actions. It ain't with her family. Know one wants to be around someone the don't respect in less they want to use them. Does she have a gun to both your heads. Stop apply morality to the non morale. You should have a three month rule. After 3 months of the same chica; end the relationship for your own good until you admit Your problem. Unlike Mr E who was pointing out a problem before being victimized, you are telling us your problem poorly rationalizing your reason for being the victim. YOU don't OWE HER SHIT! You have done far more than anyone in her leeching family does. If you don't believe that see what happen if you leave. That if you have some fucking balls ma! If she can afford to live there tomorrow then back you the old shithole or maybe to her family. You will have taught her a valuable lesson in life about respect. That's better than you relearning the same mistakes you have made just a year ago. Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting a different out come. I don't want you to like me. I want you to want to kick my ass! (no guns please). After you kick my ass deal with the people that have been really disrespecting you. Started with the mirror. PS I love you
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1552868]One of my girls down in Lima, Peru who I have been with for five years needed $200 for school last month. I have never given her a dime besides $10 or so for taxi to get to work and lunch the days she left me. We are supposed to go on a trip together to Mancora, Peru at the end of July. I told her she had to make a decision. I will give her the money for school, but we will not be taking the trip. She decided that school is way more important so I gave her the money for school. She sent the receipt where she paid and everything. For Easter she wants to go visit her sisters in Trujillo, Peru. She asked me for $70 for that a couple of days ago. She even said I can pay myself with my card on the bus company's website. All I had for her was one word, NO. She said okay baby I understand.
You have to train them from the beginning. HOW you train them is the key. You can train them that you will be there with money and other goods whenever they ask or you can train them not to ask you for anything. 20 years ago I had a shirt that said Don't Ask Me 4 SHIT. I wish I still had it. Got a picture wearing it back from Freaknik 94 though.[/QUOTE]I wish I had that in Spanish
If your a middle age gringo, in the DR one of the best cards you have to play is that you have money.
The dilemma is this. IF you tell a girl no, I am not giving you money or act cheap in negotiations with a girl than you have lost the best card you had in your deck.
However, if you give money than you are labeled a sucker and will be treated as an ATM.
In addition most of us are on vacation down there for a very short amount of time. So getting to know these girls, and them getting to know you is really not an option.
In any case, the choice of whether to give money or not and how much and how often is probably the biggest issue a gringo has playing the game we play. In any country.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1552881]I AM trying to be a smart ass because listen to yourself. You are a Mark! You are sweet! Sweet. Like bear meat. You have a sincere heart of gold and the morality of a true Gentleman. Stop being the pussy you fuck. They are going to use you until the last peso is given. You need to go out and buy JT MONEY's cd "Ho Problems" Listen, study, and learn the lyrics my brother. I remember your first story and I was dumbfounded. I was giving you cyber dap when you had enough and kicked the last chica to the curve. To hear you are back in the frying pan befuddles me! You are a walking positive reinforcer of negative actions. Dude there is more love in this forum from strangers than in a chica who doesn't respect you. Where is her love? In the bedroom some where between the 50 pumps? It ain't outside in she actions. It ain't with her family. Know one wants to be around someone the don't respect in less they want to use them. Does she have a gun to both your heads. Stop apply morality to the non morale. You should have a three month rule. After 3 months of the same chica; end the relationship for your own good until you admit Your problem. Unlike Mr E who was pointing out a problem before being victimized, you are telling us your problem poorly rationalizing your reason for being the victim. YOU don't OWE HER SHIT! You have done far more than anyone in her leeching family does. If you don't believe that see what happen if you leave. That if you have some fucking balls ma! If she can afford to live there tomorrow then back you the old shithole or maybe to her family. You will have taught her a valuable lesson in life about respect. That's better than you relearning the same mistakes you have made just a year ago. Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting a different out come. I don't want you to like me. I want you to want to kick my ass! (no guns please). After you kick my ass deal with the people that have been really disrespecting you. Started with the mirror. PS I love you[/QUOTE]First I was entertained by your post. True and accurate it is.
This girl I am dealing with is NOTHING like the Boca Chica chick. True this new girl is being well taken care of by me but never did I say she was a bad person. Nevertheless I know ultimately they are using me. Example-sent $50 today. Didn't get a thank you. She didn't even mention it until I asked her is she picked it up.
As men we all have our learning curves with women. Any man on this board who says he has NEVER been taken by a women is a liar. We all have. Guess my learning curve is a little larger than others. Its ok though. I'll learn one way or the other.
Now how to get myself out of this situation LOL.
Showdown
[QUOTE=Mfins; 1552905]If your a middle age gringo, in the DR one of the best cards you have to play is that you have money.
The dilemma is this. IF you tell a girl no, I am not giving you money or act cheap in negotiations with a girl than you have lost the best card you had in your deck.
However, if you give money than you are labeled a sucker and will be treated as an ATM.
In addition most of us are on vacation down there for a very short amount of time. So getting to know these girls, and them getting to know you is really not an option.
In any case, the choice of whether to give money or not and how much and how often is probably the biggest issue a gringo has playing the game we play. In any country.[/QUOTE]I don't think you realize we are talking two different things here since you said the word negotiate. Of course you are supposed to give a hooker money for services rendered at the time of services. However if the girl is not someone you met on the strip in Boca Chica or Sosua or inside of GBP; in other words, she is not a professed hooker, there is no need to line her pockets or try to bring her lifestyle to the level that yours is back home. You don't do the shit back home, so why go to another country and do it.
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1552907]First I was entertained by your post. True and accurate it is.
This girl I am dealing with is NOTHING like the Boca Chica chick. True this new girl is being well taken care of by me but never did I say she was a bad person. Nevertheless I know ultimately they are using me. Example-sent $50 today. Didn't get a thank you. She didn't even mention it until I asked her is she picked it up.
As men we all have our learning curves with women. Any man on this board who says he has NEVER been taken by a women is a liar. We all have. Guess my learning curve is a little larger than others. Its ok though. I'll learn one way or the other.
Now how to get myself out of this situation LOL.
Showdown[/QUOTE]Showdown I know you really like this chica and I agree anyone that has Never been taken by a women is a liar. Or gay. You know the answer to your question because you have been down this road before. Same road different car. STOP. STOP. Cut off all forms of communication. Besides your conscience. Everything else is easy. Do you think she is coming to where ever you are to make you talk to her? Granted she is not a bad person. But she doesn't even say thank you when you take your time out of your life to send Her money. What balls she now has. (yours) She doesn't even tell you she has the money. STOP STOP STOP! Her family doesn't respect you because she doesn't respect you. They react to the tone She sets. Even if you were soft on them she could make them respect you by respecting you! Its obvious she doesn't love you, but you do love her. Only when a man becomes sick and tired of being played that he remove himself. Are you tired yet. Really! You send her money Today - really! Its your money. Your situation. But Are you tired? I don't think so. I have seen a married man (no kids) of 8 years leave this wife to move next door to a woman with 3 children mover quicker. When asked why did you leave your wife so fast? He replied "I was tired of her respectful shit". You have a high tolerance for bullshit. But you know how to skin that cat.
[QUOTE=Mfins; 1552905]If your a middle age gringo, in the DR one of the best cards you have to play is that you have money.
The dilemma is this. IF you tell a girl no, I am not giving you money or act cheap in negotiations with a girl than you have lost the best card you had in your deck.
However, if you give money than you are labeled a sucker and will be treated as an ATM.
In addition most of us are on vacation down there for a very short amount of time. So getting to know these girls, and them getting to know you is really not an option.
In any case, the choice of whether to give money or not and how much and how often is probably the biggest issue a gringo has playing the game we play. In any country.[/QUOTE]I agree money is the best card we have to play. We have to use the jokers to our advantage even in the short time we have. Now that we understand the game we are playing; use it against our opponents when they don't want to play fair. I don't mind spending money on a chica, but I hate being played.
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1552823]Thai women were not that bad (and I lived in Thailand). Your right, my ex-Thai fiancé was ditched in the street by her ex-husband after he brought her back from the states. She had grown too smart and mouthy. She did not have a dime when we met, was sweet as honey, and always stayed home and skype with me everyday. She got caught up in the Thai games (which was bound to happen) and is a bar mamasan now. I got rid of her when she started lying about her job. The lies bothered me more than anything. Her ex finally died and left insurance money and she paid back most I ever gave her and thanked me for helping when she was down. I got off lucky.
I grew up in SE Wash D. C, and W. Oakland, so when I went to Sosua, I saw the same women hardened by a rough life as I've seen in the both those cities. I like my women sweet and somewhat obedient. I would never be with the Jamaican, Dominican women I have f*cked down there. Come to Africa if you want love from a sista.
Sorry that you don't respect yourself. To me respect is worth as much as money. Her dad is telling you he thinks your a puto by not even coming to have a beer with the man that's taking care if his daughter and gave him a phone. Just disappear and move on. You don't know owe anyone anything.move on cold turkey. Just because we sometime p4p, does not mean you can't be treated like a man. Your paying for love and buying a woman, and your not there to keep an eye on her ass and keep her in check. I don't kid myself that a twenty-something will really be in love with me. Its ok to spoil them a little when your there, but I expect no emails or calls when I'm not. Shit another one turns legal f*ck age everyday, get a new one.
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1552907]First I was entertained by your post. True and accurate it is.
This girl I am dealing with is NOTHING like the Boca Chica chick. True this new girl is being well taken care of by me but never did I say she was a bad person. Nevertheless I know ultimately they are using me. Example-sent $50 today. Didn't get a thank you. She didn't even mention it until I asked her is she picked it up.
As men we all have our learning curves with women. Any man on this board who says he has NEVER been taken by a women is a liar. We all have. Guess my learning curve is a little larger than others. Its ok though. I'll learn one way or the other.
Now how to get myself out of this situation LOL.
Showdown[/QUOTE]Showdown, you will get out of this situation really easy, just stop sending money, and his girl will disappear automatically, as she is only after your money.
[QUOTE=Berthold;1553236]Showdown, you will get out of this situation really easy, just stop sending money, and his girl will disappear automatically, as she is only after your money.[/QUOTE]My goodness. Sent $100 yesterday for food. Then she called today and said she needed $1500 pesos to go see her mom tomorrow (in a taxi about an hour or so away). I asked her why doesn't she use the $100 I sent. She said all of it was gone. Yet I never saw her spend $100 dollars in food in one setting before.
This girl is very sincere and honest but I think I have spoiled her. Time to run.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1553297]My goodness. Sent $100 yesterday for food. Then she called today and said she needed $1500 pesos to go see her mom tomorrow (in a taxi about an hour or so away). I asked her why doesn't she use the $100 I sent. She said all of it was gone. Yet I never saw her spend $100 dollars in food in one setting before.
This girl is very sincere and honest but I think I have spoiled her. Time to run.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]You sent her a 100 for food and then her calls back for more money to go see her Mother. She tell you she spent all the more you sent her in one day. You call her very "sincere and honest". Dude I think you are playing games with us here. You can't be that rich and naïve at the same time. If not. Can I please have her number. I need a play to crash next week. I promise you I won't touch her. Scouts honor.
Yeah. He has to be shiitin us. Every time some lazy ass or poor and unfortunate or whatever you want to call them chick asks for money I think to myself: Hmmm. To give her X$ I have to spend X more hours working. I guess my money is not as easy to come by as most of you guys because I will be damn if I spend more time than I have to busting my ass at work just to hand the money over to some third world broad. I don't care what her or her family is in need of. Hell everybody on the planet is in need of something. Why put some random broad's need over that of your friends' and family's? That is true pimpin in raw form right there.
You better get your ass off your shoulders and tell those broads you don't have it like that instead of trying to play Mr. Bigshot Foreigner. All you are doing is perpetuating the myth, stereotype, fantasy, fairy tale that all you have to do is find a foreign guy with a good heart and he will solve all of your and your family's problems because he has money that never ends.