Moscow

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]- please, don't be angry, but prostitutes can't be real girlfriends with their own customers, this is 1000% sure. It is probably prostitutes can't be real girlfriends also when customers become just "friends" (with or without sex), but I am not sure 1000%. It is sure prostitutes could be girlfriends only if men meet them outside their "work" and men never know they are/were prostitutes..[/QUOTE]Perhaps you misunderstand me or what I mean by "prostitute friend".

I have a few prostitute friends I see sometimes, but they aren't my "girlfriends" per se. I have no interest in developing these relationships further and presumably they don't either.

It's been said here before and I thought it was so obvious that it didn't need to be said again. Men who fall in love with prostitutes are fools. It just won't work except in some very rare cases and with men who have a very strong personality. Most men couldnt handle her realities.

What I do have with my pro friends are very candid conversations and we talk about everything, including sex, their lives, the business, my life, their customers, other girls etc. And what I enjoy about this kind of relationship is that they are very candid with me as well. It isn't always pleasant what they say to me and about me, but it is real. I enjoy that.

As for your Korolevsky Minet, it simply isn't that important for me. Like anal, it also has no priority for me. It is a question of mood... if the mood is right, go for it. But other things are more important.

What I do insist on (and get 90% of the time) is BBBJ.

Furthermore I like to cum on girl's faces. We all have our hobbies and fetishes. :)

BTW, the wildest things I've ever done sexually weren't with prostitutes, but were with real girlfriends or one night stands from clubs. Like fucking a girl in the ass and then pulling out and fucking her mouth, making her suck my dick until I come in her mouth and face. Pretty amazing what girls will do or let be done to them in the heat of passion.

Even more amazing is how many of them actually like the rough, perverted treatment.

[quote=doctor_skank]perhaps you misunderstand me.

i have prostitute friends, but they aren't my girlfriends per se. i have no interest in developing this further and presumably they don't either. it's been said here before and i thought it was so obvious that it didn't need to be said again. men who fall in love with prostitutes are fools. it just won't work except in some very rare cases and with men who have a very strong personality. most men couldnt handle her realities.

what we do have are very candid conversations and talk about everything, including sex, their lives, customers etc. and what i enjoy about this kind of relationship is that they are very candid with me as well. it isn't always pleasant what they say to me and about me, but it is real. i enjoy that.

as for your korelevsky minet, it simply isn't that important for me. like anal, it also has no priority for me. it is a question of mood... if the mood is right, go for it.

what i do insist on (and get 90% of the time) is bbbj.

furthermore i like to cum on girl's faces. we all have our hobbies. :)

btw, the wildest things i've ever done sexually weren't with prostitutes, but were with real girlfriends or one night stands from clubs.[/quote]


i agree doc (have pro friends too, and often we are talking on money, investments and what they will do when ritired) ... bbbj is nearly a must... i'm not so fixed in head for that kind of bbbj, fairly prefer a facial... but anal ist very very intresting for me...

the only thing that makes me totally crazy would be a threesome with twins... was avaliable both in moscow and in kiev (not cheap obviously) but i never matched to do it... (but i did sisters.... and normal threesomes) :p

by the way the worst and most hard things where done with girlfriends... i have been so lucky to have for years several... yep we can say ninfomanka? specially one crazy for hard and harsh anal sex. she took me in the anal [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] role game... wearing waiter dress too :p :p

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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]BTW, the wildest things I've ever done sexually weren't with prostitutes, but were with real girlfriends or one night stands from clubs. Like fucking a girl in the ass and then pulling out and fucking her mouth, making her suck my dick until I come in her mouth and face. Pretty amazing what girls will do or let be done to them in the heat of passion.[/QUOTE]
The "no-limits" sexual passion of Russian women never ceases to amaze me. They are inevitably at 1000 mph. Guys who say that they are cold in bed REALLY don't know what they are talking about.

Ass to mouth is also a hobby of mine. My current Russian GF loves it. And BTW, maybe I've been lucky, but all the Russian women I've had sex with were keen on anal.

Yes, you are right in that point, you know the business indeed.

I knew one of those strong men (an Armenian), it is usually one of their pimps, and it seems, also, their affective relationship lasts as much as their work relationship. Moreover, I met, at the airport in Kiev, an Ukrainian prostitute/mamashka, who worked near me, with her Italian husband, oh what a romantic scene: "Stefano, please, take my luggage" "Oh yes, my darling" and he wasn't an attractive man at all!

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]It's been said here before and I thought it was so obvious that it didn't need to be said again. Men who fall in love with prostitutes are fools. It just won't work except in some very rare cases and with men who have a very strong personality. Most men couldn't handle her realities.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prosal]The "no-limits" sexual passion of Russian women never ceases to amaze me. They are inevitably at 1000 mph. Guys who say that they are cold in bed REALLY don't know what they are talking about.

Ass to mouth is also a hobby of mine. My current Russian GF loves it. And BTW, maybe I've been lucky, but all the Russian women I've had sex with were keen on anal.[/QUOTE]x2. They do love sex. I've had very few girls that didn't like sex, only a couple that felt it was painful. In some cases that was a matter of training and they learned to love it. A couple of cases were the girls were abnormally small "down there" or too uptight to relax. But the vast majority were very sexual.

Although I haven't had as many girls be keen on anal as you. Definitely not all, if I had to put it in percentages I would say about 30%. Max.

None of them are shocked by the idea though, so it doesn't hurt trying. Well maybe her a bit. .)

i agree that anal sex is not something a russian girl would do on the first night. All anal sex i have performed was with girlfriend i stayed at least 2 months before they accepted - but they all accepted this. You just need time.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
No kissing? I never noticed. Last time there I was very much making out with girlfriend, my friends even cheering us on loudly... other couples also doing lots of kissing. Strange that they tried to interrupt you. Only time I was stopped was when we were dancing wildly too close to the motorcycle.

The only thing I can think of is if the kissing gets too wild and people start groping each other and taking off clothes, they tone it down before it gets out of hand. They want to avoid becoming another Hungry Duck. Just a theory though. Actually every time I have been there, there was a lot of kissing and groping etc. going on around me.
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Well for the water we received, it was just a kind of fun from the waitresses, as it was getting really hot with the 2 lesbos.
We were located near the entrance door, so maybe this is why maybe the security could watch our games more easily. But, it was done in a way that didn't stop us: nothing serious.

[QUOTE=Dhalgren17]The erotic-massage. Ru sounds interesting. I called the girl and she told me block 1, dom#22, room #46 on Studentcheskaya ulitsa(I speak a little Russian). My question is, how are addresses arranged in Russia? Are the blue numbers posted on buildings the dom #'s?[/QUOTE]Dhalgren,

Moscow addresses (and Russian addresses in general) are a whole subject in themselves.

The Russian word Дом (dohm) means house. It identifies the street address of a building, and yes, the blue enameled signs you see on buildings in Moscow show the дом number.

A large building in Moscow may also have many different entrances. An entrance to a building is called a подьезд (podyezd), and it will also have a number. Typically there is a домофон (domofone), which is an intercom that you can use to call an apartment from the подьезд. You will either have to enter a code to open the door, or they might buzz the door for you.

Once inside you need to know the этаж (etazh) floor, and also the квартира (kvarteera), apartment. Generally speaking, the apartment number has nothing to do with the floor. Apartment 48, could be on the 10th floor.

There is one more variation on Russian addresses: this is the корпус (corpus). I've been to the erotic-massage.ru salon at Studentcheskaya before, so I know what the girl is referring to. There is more than one building at that address, so each building is identified by a корпус number; 1, 2, 3 etc.

One more little trick about visiting salons in Moscow. Not only do you have to buzz yourself in, but you also have to buzz yourself out. So when you arrive at the podyezd to leave the building, look around for a little button somewhere that you will have to press to open the door.

Please do not post specific info about salons; podyezd and apartment, and certainly not any entry codes. The salons operate out of private apartments so typically they can only accommodate 2 or 3 customers at a time. If too many guys show up, they can't handle the business. If it happens too much, they may be forced to move and that's not good for anyone.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Dhalgren,

Moscow addresses (and Russian addresses in general) are a whole subject in themselves.

The Russian word? (dohm) means house. It identifies the street address of a building, and yes, the blue enameled signs you see on buildings in Moscow show the? Number.

A large building in Moscow may also have many different entrances. An entrance to a building is called a? (podyezd), and it will also have a number. Typically there is a? (domofone), which is an intercom that you can use to call an apartment from the?. You will either have to enter a code to open the door, or they might buzz the door for you.

Once inside you need to know the? (etazh) floor, and also the? (kvarteera), apartment. Generally speaking, the apartment number has nothing to do with the floor. Apartment 48, could be on the 10th floor.

There is one more variation on Russian addresses: this is the? (corpus). I've been to the erotic-massage. Ru salon at Studentcheskaya before, so I know what the girl is referring to. There is more than one building at that address, so each building is identified by a? Number; 1, 2, 3 etc.

One more little trick about visiting salons in Moscow. Not only do you have to buzz yourself in, but you also have to buzz yourself out. So when you arrive at the podyezd to leave the building, look around for a little button somewhere that you will have to press to open the door.

Please do not post specific info about salons; podyezd and apartment, and certainly not any entry codes. The salons operate out of private apartments so typically they can only accommodate 2 or 3 customers at a time. If too many guys show up, they can't handle the business. If it happens too much, they may be forced to move and that's not good for anyone.[/QUOTE]wow, Stravinsky you are an expert for sure! With such a detailed description it; s impossible to miss something! Thanks a lot. Always myself had a pain in the ass in finding addresses in Russia.

Sam80,

не за что...

Where have you been keeping yourself? You've spent time in Moscow and this is your first post?

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I also agree that the drinks are weak. I was ordering triple whiskys last time there just to get drunk, that gets expensive fast. [/QUOTE]

Amen to that, bro - paying $10 for a pint of Guinness just seems wrong. Still... it's a bargain compared to other major cities like New York, Tokyo, Paris or London.

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No kissing? I never noticed. Last time there I was very much making out with girlfriend, my friends even cheering us on loudly... other couples also doing lots of kissing. Strange that they tried to interrupt you.
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I can back that up... 109's girl was dry humping him half the time, and Doc had his tongue down his girl's throat more often than not. If you recall... this is the hottie who vanished without a trace, only to reappear dancing on top of the bar in her skivvys with a different hairstyle. That's gotta be an All Time Classic. In any case, there was all sorts of mauling going on there, and I didn't see anyone from Security or the waitstaff objecting. I'm with Skank... I'm guessing the girls were staff members and their co-workers were just trying to cool you off (and in turn, the girls as well).

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As for the expats, it seems to be THE place for local expats and foreign tourists to go now, replacing both Karma Bar and Real McCoy. Again, this is both good and bad. Brings in some girls looking for sexpats, but also increases the competition. If it gets too expat-laden, the club will become a sausage fest.[/QUOTE]

So far, they seem to be keeping the male:female ratio in check. I'm not sure *how* they're doing it exactly, but whatever it is - it's working. Recent visits to Che, on the other hand, have shown it to be going in the opposite direction in terms of male:female ratio. Last week, even on the dancefloor, there were 3 guys to every "girl" (using that term in the loosest sense given that these women were born while Brezhnev was still heading the country). The only reason I go there any more is for the live music, fajita nachos, and the mojitos, and usually I BYOB (bring my own b!tches).

[QUOTE=Pizdyets] If you recall... this is the hottie who vanished without a trace, only to reappear dancing on top of the bar in her skivvys with a different hairstyle. That's gotta be an All Time Classic. [/QUOTE]Indeed, that was just too awesome. .))))

So is the new Che groove mostly Russians or expats? IIRC, the most annoying guys there were always the Russians. And us of course.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]So is the new Che groove mostly Russians or expats? IIRC, the most annoying guys there were always the Russians. And us of course.[/QUOTE]

Hmm... how can I say this and not come across like a complete bigot? Maybe "Swarthy Expats"? Lots of Beautiful Creatures(TM).

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Sam80,

не за что...

Where have you been keeping yourself? You've spent time in Moscow and this is your first post?[/QUOTE]Well, I've been busy a while and now I free to share my experience with the people from this forum.

As promised, I'm posting a report about a recently-completed visit to Fantasys. I have made an extensive research of their website and picked 3 names: Oksana, Diana and another one, whose name I now forgot.

Called in, came and saw 3 girls waiting for me in one room. To my surprise (after reading so many positive posts about this establishment), the girls were not in the mood to exhibit even minor attempt to friendliness. I am relatively young, well groomed and good looking. So, I'm certain that their attetude had little to do with me per se.

I picked the least unfriendly Oksana. After disappearin for a while, Oksana came in and squeezed out herself few words that made it plainly clear to me that I won't enjoy the encounter. I'm sadly not aroused by bad attitude, even coming from a good looking young blond. So, I told her, "sorry, Oksana, I don't think we have chemistry here, I'm leaving". At this point, I should have followed my instinct that is almost never betrays me. Yet, I didn't. Scared by the potential of me leaving, Oksana pleaded with me to reconsider, stating that we'll certainly get along etc. Little I knew, as soon as she got the cash, she immediately reverted to her usual lazy/unfriendly attitude.

When I started playing with her body, she declared to me that if I want to make it nice to her - I shouldn't bother, as she "doesn't care". I should just do what I need and not inconvenience her with foreplay. After forcing myself to finish the first time (usually, it comes easy for me, but not with Oksana), we spoke for a little bit. I asked her why her friends were so unfriendly and she told me that Fantasy now employs all old-timers who have their clients and really don't want to exert themselves any more. The irony that this pretty much described her as well did not reach her comprehension. She became somewhat friendlier during the chit-chat but when I proposed to do IT again, she said: "there are 10 minutes left and usually at this time clients are getting ready to leave, not to do it again". The hints of "friendly" quickly disappeared from her face. I realized that she'd just lazy piece of crap and decided to cut my losses and leave. I told her good by and left.

My recommendation to anyone here is not to visit Fantasys. I check all their girls before making the final selection. The verdict is that they are not that pretty for the most part and those who are act as unfriendly as it gets. Plus, this place is now really overpriced at 4500 rubles/hour.

Hope this helps to someone. Aibolit