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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2569754]There is no ban in effect to enter Colombia from Brazil. My flight is via Panama City. But if yellow fever vaccine is required (taken at least 10 days prior to departing Brazil), I'm fucked.[/QUOTE]There had been a ban for months. When did it end? Okay.. I looked it up. It ended May 12.
[url]https://www.eltiempo.com/amp/politica/gobierno/colombia-reactiva-vuelos-desde-y-hacia-brasil-588224[/url]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2569754]There is no ban in effect to enter Colombia from Brazil. My flight is via Panama City. But if yellow fever vaccine is required (taken at least 10 days prior to departing Brazil), I'm fucked.[/QUOTE]I'd advise anyone to avoid transiting Panama City. This may be out of date by now, but on a flight last month they were scrutinizing every passenger on the flight from Colombia and pulling people aside and giving them choice of taking a covid test on the spot or being subject to immediate quarantine. They were also doing this on flights from Brazil. The situation of course is changeable. I didn't appreciate the vibe or the attitude; despite the convenient Star Alliance connection which I've used many times, it'll be a long time before I transit PTY again. Their new terminal, BTW, is nothing special; t looks like a Chinese job, minus the rough edges.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2569654]This is not true. It is only legal for the prostitute to sell herself. It is illegal for anyone else to profit from the sale of sex except the prostitute.[/QUOTE]Does that mean these clinicas and prives are illegal?
[QUOTE=Mangera;2569471]That is because she just recently changed her name. She used to be known as Maia or Mayra, and now is Vitoria. She worked at a Prive 3 or 4 years agao, then gave the Termas a try, and now is back to Prive work place. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Ah that makes sense. Victory is excellent. I've booked a 2 HR appointment with her since there's not much to do before my flight, and I'd rather just chill with her than wander around aimlessly with my carry-ONS.
[B]Day 4[/B]
[I]Prive[/I]
I wasn't able to visit Carol, who's highly rated on GPA, yesterday. So I booked 1 HR with her. I'd rate her a 6. 5 in looks. Her face is a 7, and her body's a 6. She has a bit of a gut, but has large, natural breasts. She says she doesn't like her pics on Onix because they've been shopped. I guess lots of clients as her about her pics? What she lacked in looks, she made up for in excellent GFE service. She started by asking if I enjoy kissing, and I answered in the affirmative. From there, the DFK was mind blowing. The way she worked her tongue, I think it's the best kissing I've experienced thus far. It's kind of funny how every time I write a review, I feel like I'm saying "This is the best GFE so far. " LOL. But it's true, the GFE sessions have been getting better and better. Her BBBJ was also very good, with plenty of eye contact. After a while, she put the cover on. We only went for CG. I didn't want to switch positions because the kissing was so intense. After finishing round 1, we just kept kissing. Kissing and talking for a good 20 min. Then round 2 started, but I had a hard time keeping it up in K9. I thought I was done and we just went into MISH where we were just making out. Her wonderful DFKs got me hard again. This time, I was able to complete round 2. Only the 2nd time during my Brazil trip that someone's been able to get 2 out of me so far.
[I]Boates[/I]
I was pretty excited to check out what these boates and termas had to offer. I'd already unloaded 2 for the day, so I knew I'd be thinking with my big head and not my little. I decided before going in that I'd only session if I found a 9 or 10.
First, we went to Terma 65 (entrance fee R50). Most of the girls were large and / or tall. Not really either of our styles. So after finishing our drinks (beer R20), we headed over to 4 x4. If you're visiting by yourself, I don't recommend walking from one place to another. Streets are narrow, dark, and do not have many people around. 4 x4 was much more to my liking (entrance: R50, beer: R20). There was a party going on, so lots of girls were going crazy, some making out with one another. There were probably about 5 solid 8's. Most were lower. One 8 noticed I was eyeing her, came over and started making out. My buddy decided to head over to 502 where he found a girl to his liking immediately. While I'm making out with this cutie, and she's molesting me under my robe. About an hour later, I get a text from my friend saying he's done. So we meet back outside and head over to MAB'S. We eat and drink. There's this really cute, tall branca. She reminds me of a young Julia Roberts (Pretty Woman reenactment? LOL). But when we got to my hotel (no issues with front desk), I found her to be just a bit too thin with saggy breasts. I think she was still lactating from just having a kid. But it didn't seem like she wanted me to make the milk come out. So an hour of making out, getting a BBBJ cost me R280. It wasn't too bad.
I don't think I like the boates and termas scene as much as I do the prives. Reason being, one girl (Beatrice) was great GFE while in the club. But when in the bedroom, she seemed eager to leave, even though the session was decent. 2nd reason: it could turn out to be an expensive mistake. This last girl from MAB's isn't necessarily an expensive mistake. But compared to prives, she was. The half HR I got from Victoria was half the price of that MAB's girl. Even if you get a dud at a prive or clinica, the price is so low, at least you got your nut off (probably). And Maria (the one 10 I've met thus far), kind of ruined my fantasy with her high price. It's nothing compared to what I'd pay in the states. But I think I prefer the 1 HR fantasy at a prive. Some of these girls are so good. And more than their looks, it's their attitudes that have made me cum twice in one session. Which leads me to:
[B]Day 5[/B]
Decided to check out Victoria at Onix again. Since I didn't want to walk around carrying my stuff, I made a 2 HR appointment and timed the session so I finish on time to make my flight. The 2 HR session was amazing. I was afraid it'd get boring. But her English is really good. Lots of DFK again, BBBJ was pretty good. Started in CG, finished in closed MISH while making out. Afterwards, we talked about travel, foods (she told me I've been eating all the wrong Brazilian foods LOL), and got into some personal stuff. Throughout the conversation, we'd DFK. I started getting hard again, so she gave me some more BBBJ, cover on, and K9. But every time the cover comes on in round 2, I start going limp. Part of the reason is because while one girl was putting it on, the base of the rubber SNAPPED on to my dick. Instead of rolling it on, she was stretching it out and rolling it inside out because she put it on backwards. For some reason, some of these girls put the cover on stretching the base. And every time they do, I'm concerned it's going to snap on my dick. Anyways, K9 isn't happening, which is a shame because her ass was pretty nice. I just lay on top of her and we make out again. Just like yesterday, the DFK got another rise out of me. We restarted round 2 and after a while, I was complete. The 2 hrs went by really fast. I'm glad I didn't take her 800 pernoite offer and just did her at her work, even though it's super small. BTW, I went to Onix 3 times, and got a different room each time. They were pretty much all the same, small rooms.
Back in SP again, but only for another 3 days. I'll probably hit up some of the clinicas again (mostly Abbobora and Prime). If I still have energy at night, I'll check out scandallo and connection.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2569790]I don't think I like the boates and termas scene as much as I do the prives. Reason being, one girl (Beatrice) was great GFE while in the club. But when in the bedroom, she seemed eager to leave, even though the session was decent. 2nd reason: it could turn out to be an expensive mistake. This last girl from MAB's isn't necessarily an expensive mistake. But compared to prives, she was. The half HR I got from Victoria was half the price of that MAB's girl. Even if you get a dud at a prive or clinica, the price is so low, at least you got your nut off (probably).[/QUOTE]The Cane doesn't have "duds". I take great pride in my selection process, and pulling a dud just isn't something that happens to me. In fact, I can't even recall the last time it happened. We all have our own techniques, but I don't know. I mean some things just can't be taught. You're either born with a certain talent and ability, or you aren't. The first thing is never ever be "thirsty" for some pussy, and never act like you have to fuck everything that moves, or that you just have to session with somebody no matter what. That helps avoid pulling duds for sure. Don't be thirsty. Anybody has the capability to avoid being like that. You manage the buceta. Don't let the buceta manage you. The termas of Rio and the boates of Sampa suit me just fine!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2569739]Oh, he said it. Here come the ISG wolves for your carcass.[/QUOTE]LOL. I was kind of worried as I posted that. "Did I post more info than I should've?" Fortunately, I've only met gents, successful people in their own fields, from ISG on my trip so far.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2569812]LOL. I was kind of worried as I posted that. "Did I post more info than I should've?" Fortunately, I've only met gents, successful people in their own fields, from ISG on my trip so far.[/QUOTE]He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2569802]The Cane doesn't have "duds". I take great pride in my selection process, and pulling a dud just isn't something that happens to me. In fact, I can't even recall the last time it happened. We all have our own techniques, but I don't know. I mean some things just can't be taught. You're either born with a certain talent and ability, or you aren't. The first thing is never ever be "thirsty" for some pussy, and never act like you have to fuck everything that moves, or that you just have to session with somebody no matter what. That helps avoid pulling duds for sure. Don't be thirsty. Anybody has the capability to avoid being like that. You manage the buceta. Don't let the buceta manage you. The termas of Rio and the boates of Sampa suit me just fine![/QUOTE]That works for you, this works for me. I don't really care that I pulled a dud. I'm going back in just a few days. My goal is to shoot as many times as I can while I'm still here. LOL. I've been averaging more than 1 fuck a day (for 12 days now). Sometimes, that dud will be on round 2. And this one time, it was on round 1 (but 3rd of the day). I don't mind. She was someone I found attractive and got a rise out of me at MAB'S. This was after I skipped out on several 8's at 4 x4. Why should I care? I spent my money the way I wanted. And I wanted to scratch that itch. Don't regret it for 1 sec.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2569878]He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.[/QUOTE]Haha, that makes sense. Fortunately, no bank was broken in Rio. And Scandallo is probably not the cheap charlies' watering hole anyways.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2569790]. Part of the reason is because while one girl was putting it on, the base of the rubber SNAPPED on to my dick. Instead of rolling it on, she was stretching it out and rolling it inside out because she put it on backwards. For some reason, some of these girls put the cover on stretching the base. And every time they do, I'm concerned it's going to snap on my dick. [/QUOTE]I hate it when hookers do that. It's crazy how the majority of hookers don't know how to put a condom on a customer's cock. It's like a chef not being able to cook rice or something.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2569878]He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.[/QUOTE]If someone shops online and not at a retail store because it is cheaper, do you consider that person cheap Charlie? I understand it is annoying to some. I think most of the times, people are saying one can buy the same thing for less. Whether it is the same thing or not, that is another debate.
Value Investing by Smart Money.
Speaking as one of those so called cheap charlies, I would just respectfully point out that there is an important point to be made. Vagabundo (and Senor Sperto, and Senor Bubba Boy, and a long line of successful value investors, Warren Buffet, et al) is not so much worried about pricing vagabundo out of the market. Vagabundo assures you, he could easily buy any pussy on the market in Rio. It is, rather, that Vagabundo does not want to be seen by the locals as dumb money, or in stock market terms a "market order".
As for Senor SK, I'm not reading his posts, as I decided not to hang with him, as he violated forum rules, which he corrected by taking down the offending posts. That said, if a possible wingman has IFF (identify friend or foe) issues, or can't follow the rules of the forum, then this forum member doesn't really need to take the risk of having to figure out whether the "girl" he picks has a penis or a clit.
That said, I mean no offense to Senor SK, who has written some very long, informative, and useful posts, especially for a first time after Covid monger coming from California, which was once a nice place for a man, but may no longer be so friendly to humans with dicks.
Tier 1 termas like 4 x4 are great. Vagabundo loves the vibe, the bunda, the talent. For a monger like FLCNHeavy, who identified himself as the ISG member who spent 1000 reais for a pernoite at 4 x4 (after Vagabundo, respectfully, tried to discretely conceal his identity, see the relevant posts if you like; it was in fact, Mr E, our most prolific writer here who was outraged by the 1000 reais pernoite pricing, especially when it was revealed, again by FLCNHeavy to be for just to 02 h); or for Anaggie who spent by his own post 3500 reais for 4 girls at 4 x 4 in 8 hours, and again, Anaggie gets positive props from this ISG member for smartly getting bareback by bringing his tests, a protip for a Agriculture and Mining expert if ever there was one. But Bubba Boy's guide observed that the smart local mongers go to tier 1 termas like 4 x 4 or Perola Negra or Paris Cafe to get numbers, and then to get them back to your apartment, for the own toilet advantage, preferably in a suite with a hydromassagem. Even though the rooms at 4 x4 or even Solarium are top notch, they are not a private pool and hydromassagem like a good love motel, like carbonara in Bangu, or in your luxury hotel or apartment suite.
Anyhoo. You could say Warren Buffet is a cheap bastard. He'd probably take that as a compliment. Likewise the experienced market maker who gets market maker leverage -- that means he can buy the same option contract, you, the retail investor buy with cash with borrowed money precisely because the exchange considers him to be smart money.
My view is don't be a retail investor. Be a professional.
There are military analogies to be made too, but I've made my point. Again. Now, as Senor sperto suggests, Vagabundo too will ignore AmorPorFavor.
Pax de Christo.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2569878]He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2569939]If someone shops online and not at a retail store because it is cheaper, do you consider that person cheap Charlie?...[/QUOTE]Not at all but when he becomes angry at you for shopping at the retail store then something's wrong with him.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2569789]Does that mean these clinicas and prives are illegal?[/QUOTE]No, not really.
Some locals might be able to explain it better, but I believe girls in clinicas, prives and termas are basically independent agents. The venue is renting you the room. The girls are providing their services with no strings, no coercion. The girls probably can quit anytime they want. Although, they have to follow the rules of the management while they are working there.
As someone was saying, RJMassagem and other places are trying to market and differentiate themselves as legitimate massage places. I avoid these types of places in RJ and SP. I don't find "real" Brazilian massages very good (as say compared to Asia). I also don't want to have to coax the masseuse to provide me extra services or get her to meet me outside the salon. However, I hope Natty Bumpo had a great time with Clara from RJMassagem at his place. She is a looker. Look forward to his report.
As far as duds, if you monger enough you will come across them. Many of these termas and Mabs girls are great sales people. Getting clients to fork over money is competitive business between these girls. They know how to use their feminine guile. I will stop short of calling them "teases" because technically they will fuck you just not with the GFE passion we desire.
Many times the signals are there and my brain just ignores them. There was this bombshell 9+ in Help Disco. An absolute stunning branca head to toe. For some reason, maybe the fact she wanted $100, she was getting passed over. Some of the clues that she is going to be a lousy fuck were probably her incredible club outfit, her impeccable highlighted hair and solid English skills. As the night wore on, I offer her $80. She accepts and it's off to my Copa apartment not far away.
Back at the apartment, she's now in a rush. She talks about how she lived and stripped in Miami. You know she would make $20 for just a lap dance. Yeah, yeah, whatever. This is Rio. I get her on the balcony overlooking the ocean and the lights of Copacabana Beach. We go at it on the plastic patio furniture. It was a nice night. Everything seemed to be perfect. The problem is she starts urging me to cum almost the minute we go from the short BJ to insertion. She would not shut up and she complained her pussy was tired.
It was a learning lesson. At the disco in its day, there were dozens of cute, sexy, less worldy girls who would fuck you all night for $50. They would be very appreciative and work to please you if you treated them nice. This is kind of the deal at Mabs, but on a much smaller scale.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2569950]As for Senor SK, I'm not reading his posts, as I decided not to hang with him, as he violated forum rules, which he corrected by taking down the offending posts. That said, if a possible wingman has IFF (identify friend or foe) issues, or can't follow the rules of the forum, then this forum member doesn't really need to take the risk of having to figure out whether the "girl" he picks has a penis or a clit.
That said, I mean no offense to Senor SK, who has written some very long, informative, and useful posts, especially for a first time after Covid monger coming from California, which was once a nice place for a man, but may no longer be so friendly to humans with dicks.[/QUOTE]No worries. I don't need to spend time who have phobias of a certain creed, even if those are "forum rules". My time is better spent with other enjoyable, high class members of ISG. Life's too short to be spent with negative people. No offense, as you've contributed much here, especially for locals and those here on a long term basis.
I had some concerns coming to a brand new country specifically for mongering, especially with South America's reputation for violence and Brazil's current covid situation. But HUGE thanks to Natty for inspiring me to make the trip. And thanks to Miami, Zebra, Diver, and one more anonymous ISGer who were a pleasure to hang out with. I respect every one of these classy gents. They're probably in the top 10% of US society, which probably makes them top 1% in the world. I'm talking about financial freedom and mental fortitude / liberty to make mongering trips across the world. It's been fun hanging out with everyone I met and would do so any time.
Now, to go hang out at Prime for some eye candy. =).
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2569754]There is no ban in effect to enter Colombia from Brazil. My flight is via Panama City. But if yellow fever vaccine is required (taken at least 10 days prior to departing Brazil), I'm fucked.[/QUOTE]To enter Colombia when you are traveling from Brazil. Please beware. I was denied boarding and got fucked. Not the end of the world, but lost a few hundred $ and my plans for Bogota got screwed. I guess will stick around for at least 10 more days.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2569802]You're either born with a certain talent and ability, or you aren't. The first thing is never ever be "thirsty" for some pussy, and never act like you have to fuck everything that moves, or that you just have to session with somebody no matter what. That helps avoid pulling duds for sure. Don't be thirsty. Anybody has the capability to avoid being like that. You manage the buceta. Don't let the buceta manage you. The termas of Rio and the boates of Sampa suit me just fine![/QUOTE]Bingo! That's right on the money!
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2569790] She reminds me of a young Julia Roberts (Pretty Woman reenactment? LOL). But when we got to my hotel (no issues with front desk), I found her to be just a bit too thin with saggy breasts. I think she was still lactating from just having a kid.[/QUOTE]Did you ask if she had kid?
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1]As a PSA to we few, I have gone so far as to cut and paste Bubba Boy's guide. I concur with all his wisdom, with some notes of my own.
....
The questions that Bubba Boy posts are solid, and should be used. I have modified mine a little:
1. [b]Voce tem filhos?[/b]
[/QUOTE]
Thanks Sinfully Korean for your copious posts. Great stuff in both the SP and Rio forums. My only slight advice to you is not worry about the prices quite so much (sounds like you CAN afford it) because when back in the states you will wish you hadn't.
And if you really want to blow the doors off your going to want to get some Viagra. You said you went a bit floppy at times and yep that's going to happen. But no need for it to. When I first hit Brasil on my first trip I did 5 girls at 5 different venues in 24 hours. Don't think I coulda pulled that off without an assist. And going two rounds back to back with 20-30 minutes rest won't happen for me anymore without it. Yeah I could get BJ round two but no way I'm fucking in round 2 without an assist. Also if you get a girl who is older or fatter than you hope but her service is good you will still be able to perform. Highly recommend.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2570094]Thanks Sinfully Korean for your copious posts. Great stuff in both the SP and Rio forums. My only slight advice to you is not worry about the prices quite so much (sounds like you CAN afford it) because when back in the states you will wish you hadn't.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you never go back home and worry about what you paid in Brazil. It's all good.
My regrets come when I get caught up in the action and I forget to call a Brazilian girl to meet-up. Sometimes they were the hottest fuck in recent memory and I'm quickly on to other things during a short stay. Sometimes I haven't even hooked up with a hot girl that I forget to call, but the mind unfairly projects that she would have been incredible in bed.
Steve here is pretty good at extending out those great encounters.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2569790]And Maria (the one 10 I've met thus far), kind of ruined my fantasy with her high price. It's nothing compared to what I'd pay in the states. But I think I prefer the 1 HR fantasy at a prive. [/QUOTE]700 for a 10 to come to your place is cheap. This probably is true for locals too. I guess your set up is for her to visit and fuck and that is what you get. If you have a chance, go check out the restaurant DOM nearby then let us know what is the price and you can put all of these into perspective.
Next time, if you are quoted a high price, or before getting a price from the girl, remind them you are not Japanese. lol.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2569950]Speaking as one of those so called cheap charlies, I would just respectfully point out that there is an important point to be made. Vagabundo (and Senor Sperto, and Senor Bubba Boy, and a long line of successful value investors, Warren Buffet, et al) is not so much worried about pricing vagabundo out of the market.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, just add the chatos "to ignore list", very useful. Some posters likes to show off like high-rollers. Because of age, physical shape, no chance of scoring regular girls and lack of portuguese skills and game their only solution to get some nice p*ssy is to overpay on their one weekend holiday. Some of them make excuses that the "cheap Charlies" can't afford paying what they pay. No matter what I buy, overpaying makes you look like a fool and will definitely not gain the respect of the GP.
The good is that I love meeting GPs that are receiving money from their US boyfriends. In between talking sweet to their BFs on Skype I f*ck their GFs for free. Sometimes I banging them just next to the laptops (bought by their BFs) where their BFs are calling them.
The bad is that it's no longer possible to share the best information on this forum, that's why I stopped sharing my privë lists. If you post info about this fantastic newbie that just started to work on a certain privê in Centro, then she'll be ruined by overpaying jerks. That sort of info can only be shared by PMs.
Have fun, Senhor Vagabundo.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2570094]And if you really want to blow the doors off your going to want to get some Viagra. You said you went a bit floppy at times and yep that's going to happen. But no need for it to. When I first hit Brasil on my first trip I did 5 girls at 5 different venues in 24 hours. Don't think I coulda pulled that off without an assist. And going two rounds back to back with 20-30 minutes rest won't happen for me anymore without it. Yeah I could get BJ round two but no way I'm fucking in round 2 without an assist. Also if you get a girl who is older or fatter than you hope but her service is good you will still be able to perform. Highly recommend.[/QUOTE]I'm still a bit wary of Viagra, since I haven't tried it yet. I don't want to depend on it. I went limp couple nights ago because I'd already shot twice on back to back days. Usually, shooting twice is enough to satisfy my libido for a few days. Honestly, I was just greedy because it was my last night in Rio. I have about 2. 5 days of mongering left in this great nation before having to head back to prude nation. I'll keep V in the back of my mind for the future. Thanks for the tip, though =) And you're right. It's not necessarily about how hot they are on round 2. It helps, but it's all about the chemistry and their attitude.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2570114]700 for a 10 to come to your place is cheap. This probably is true for locals too. I guess your set up is for her to visit and fuck and that is what you get. If you have a chance, go check out the restaurant DOM nearby then let us know what is the price and you can put all of these into perspective.[/QUOTE]It was a trophy fuck, and I'm glad I got the chance. The magic kind of wore off because of her relative high price. I've had a few KBs (Korean Babes) in California that reciprocated my feelings and we spent a lot of extracurricular time outside of paid sessions. That's the kind of magic I'm looking for. It's probably not likely to happen here unless I learn the language, which I plan on doing.
Miami shared some of his success stories on SA when we met. He had some great insight / strategy I hope to try next time.
Vagabundo headed out the door of the Hotel Transamerica at 09 h, just in time to catch the luxury bus to Centro. It is rainy. This time of year one must check the forecast if one plans a viagem with a girl.
Vagabundo had a breakfast at the megamatte in RB156. He wasn't in the mood for pernoite, though some of the usual suspects have been pinging him. The aftertaste of a non pro non mini relationship lingers, with a sour aftertaste. It was a non mini relationship because there was no sex, thank fully. It turns out she wanted favors for her boss, and for her sister. Vagabundo's takeaway is that he is so happy not to have kids, a family, all those nasty obligations. For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her.
Vagabundo mongered up to the 3 d floor of RB156 with his capucinno, fohlo camarao, and acai. He popped his generic viagra, and cialis, just a piece not the whole thing, and made a plan. He would cross the street to RB185, to Bel Prazer.
There, he picked his girl, a negra, who it turns out also had worked at 4 x 4. He paid his 120 r for the hour.
Vagabundo lay back, enjoyed the BBBJ, and the kissing, 69. She got on top to ride, and Vagabundo encouraged her to slap his face. She seemed to like this.
For any monger to really enjoy Rio, it is essential to master the sex language.
Chupa meu piroca means suck my dick.
Garganta profunda means deep throat.
Chupa meu saco means suck my balls.
Etc.
Frango Assado means missionary with a pillow (traversa) under her ass to push her pussy and ass up for better fucking.
This is what some mongers like to call missionary anal.
All through it, Vagabundo made nasty talk such as Quero vc fuder uma mulata come seu mao endentro buceta dela. To which the girl responded, vc quer isso agora. To which Vagabundo responded, proxima vez. Then Vagabundo encouraged, Vc e policia, Quero vc fuder uma loira com seu mao endentro buceta dela. Vc quer? This nasty talk made her ride harder, and she seemed to enjoy the audio novella of her violent, whacked out world which is the sacred and profane of Rio de Janeiro at war with itself, a class war, between rich and poor, black and white, shades of humanity, judged by colorism, by uniform, by social standing as surely strait jacketing as in the new classic novel and netflix movie, White Tiger.
Sure, you can be a yankee imperialist, but the girl will like it better if you speak her language, even if your portuguese sucks.
Vagabundo did request and was granted frango assado, and in that position he penetrated the anal passage of the girl. A nice tight ride up a strong, healthy, beautiful booty. She asked for 50 tip for the ass, which is fine.
It makes it all worth it.
Vagabundo shot his first load into the pink, intentionally translucent (comes in a light blue wrapper in the local pharma) up her booty. That was at the 30 minute mark.
Vagabundo showered.
He came back to the bed, and kissed, and exchange numbers, which later came up as "4 x4 . " from 3 years ago. Vagabundo knew he had seen her before.
Vagabundo suggested chupa meu piroca.
Meia Nove means 69.
De Quatro (sounds like "gi quatro") means doggy style.
Oh, that bunda, that nice jiggly, firm, athletic bunda.
Vagabundo came again, thinking about flooding her pussy with his sperm, and about flooding the world with his heirs.
The hour was pretty much over, and certainly, Vagabundo's balls were drained.
"Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we are in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.
Don't go out to tonight.
Its bound to take your life.
There's a bad moon on the rise".
-Creedence Clearwater Revival.
Vagabundo picked up some things he had on order in Centro.
He was a bit knackered after a nice morning of nasty fucking, so Vagabundo, uncharacteristically, took an indriver (the app that allows the user to set his price) back to Transamerica where he caught a nice afternoon nap. Thoughts of the other mulatta fluttered in his head like reindeer at christmastime in a child's imagination.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2570130]I'm still a bit wary of Viagra, since I haven't tried it yet. I don't want to depend on it.[/QUOTE]That's an interesting POV. I don't think Viagra and other ED meds actually create dependency. When it first became popular, I and other younger gents used it to enhance our experience and performance. I never had any young women complain either.
Where it might be a problem for some, is when one actually has alcohol and drug dependency and the ED meds help them overcome the deleterious effects of the alcohol and drugs. Of course, there were some young guys who would get drunk off their ass and still hammer like a jackhammer.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2570145]That's an interesting POV. I don't think Viagra and other ED meds actually create dependency. When it first became popular, I and other younger gents used it to enhance our experience and performance. I never had any young women complain either.
Where it might be a problem for some, is when one actually has alcohol and drug dependency and the ED meds help them overcome the deleterious effects of the alcohol and drugs. Of course, there were some young guys who would get drunk off their ass and still hammer like a jackhammer.[/QUOTE]I don't think he's saying dependence like a drug dependence. Just that you come to rely on it for optimal experience and it becomes hard to go without. I certainly fall in this category. Can I go one round without it? Yep. But it's not as satisfying as a Superman hardon. Likewise I was varying from 20 to 40 to 60 MG depending on the situation. But then had a semi fail one night with two rounds on 40. So next time it was 60. And I've been doing 60 Since because I don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.
So yeah dependency in that sense is a real thing.
[QUOTE] For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the novella Vagabundo! I found it both informative and inspiring to read. I hope to live that kind of life someday!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2570197]I don't think he's saying dependence like a drug dependence. Just that you come to rely on it for optimal experience and it becomes hard to go without. I certainly fall in this category. Can I go one round without it? Yep. But it's not as satisfying as a Superman hardon. Likewise I was varying from 20 to 40 to 60 MG depending on the situation. But then had a semi fail one night with two rounds on 40. So next time it was 60. And I've been doing 60 Since because I don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.
So yeah dependency in that sense is a real thing.[/QUOTE]Exactly this. For now, I'm fine. I've been on sex overdrive because of the short 2 week vacation. To be honest, I'd be happy having sex 2-3 times a week (multiple pops per session). I think that's what my libido prefers. Sessioning every day, sometimes multiple times a day is just greed and a luxury =).
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2570143]Vagabundo headed out the door of the Hotel Transamerica at 09 h, just in time to catch the luxury bus to Centro. It is rainy. This time of year one must check the forecast if one plans a viagem with a girl.
Vagabundo had a breakfast at the megamatte in RB156. He wasn't in the mood for pernoite, though some of the usual suspects have been pinging him. The aftertaste of a non pro non mini relationship lingers, with a sour aftertaste. It was a non mini relationship because there was no sex, thank fully. It turns out she wanted favors for her boss, and for her sister. Vagabundo's takeaway is that he is so happy not to have kids, a family, all those nasty obligations. For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her.
Vagabundo mongered up to the 3 d floor of RB156 with his capucinno, fohlo camarao, and acai. He popped his generic viagra, and cialis, just a piece not the whole thing, and made a plan. He would cross the street to RB185, to Bel Prazer.
There, he picked his girl, a negra, who it turns out also had worked at 4 x 4. He paid his 120 r for the hour.
Vagabundo lay back, enjoyed the BBBJ, and the kissing, 69. She got on top to ride, and Vagabundo encouraged her to slap his face. She seemed to like this.
For any monger to really enjoy Rio, it is essential to master the sex language.
Chupa meu piroca means suck my dick.
Garganta profunda means deep throat.
Chupa meu saco means suck my balls.
Etc.
Frango Assado means missionary with a pillow (traversa) under her ass to push her pussy and ass up for better fucking.[/QUOTE]Great storytelling as always, but.
Frango Assado, at least in my perusal of GPArena, means something else, I think. It's her on a bed's edge, legs up.
Missionary, I believe, is called PPMM or papai mamae, which makes perfect sense IMHO.
Frango Assado means literally roast chicken.
It looks like the attached image of a roast chicken.
If you walk around Brazil, you see roast chicken advertised in restaurants as frango assado.
The girl gets on her back, lets up in the air, and put a pillow (traversa) under her ass to elevate the holes desired.
It could also be on the edge of the bed as you describe.
I am sure our linguistic cuninglinguists will advise us, shortly, here on the dead sea scrolls society of penthouse letters in Portuguese, haha.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2570235]Great storytelling as always, but.
Frango Assado, at least in my perusal of GPArena, means something else, I think. It's her on a bed's edge, legs up.
Missionary, I believe, is called PPMM or papai mamae, which makes perfect sense IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
This will be my first time in Rio next month. I want to bang as many girls as possible without spending much money. Where can I find the best street hookers for cheap? And where should I stay for the most action? Thanks!
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2570055]My time is better spent with other enjoyable, high class members of ISG. Life's too short to be spent with negative people. But HUGE thanks to Natty for inspiring me to make the trip. And thanks to Miami, Zebra, Diver, and one more anonymous ISGer who were a pleasure to hang out with. I respect every one of these classy gents. They're probably in the top 10% of US society, which probably makes them top 1% in the world. I'm talking about financial freedom and mental fortitude / liberty to make mongering trips across the world.[/QUOTE]I will never apologize for being a millionaire. I worked hard and put up with a lot of shit to earn my money, and nobody here helped me to acquire one red cent of it. I'll be damned if anybody will tell me when, where, and how to spend it either. What's yours is yours, and what's mine is mine. Unless of course we're talking about the tutes we pass around LOLOLOL!
Vagabundo had a breakfast at the megamatte in RB156. He wasn't in the mood for pernoite, though some of the usual suspects have been pinging him. The aftertaste of a non pro non mini relationship lingers, with a sour aftertaste. It was a non mini relationship because there was no sex, thank fully. It turns out she wanted favors for her boss, and for her sister. Vagabundo's takeaway is that he is so happy not to have kids, a family, all those nasty obligations. For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her. Moreover, after having a few meals with the non pro and her sister, and her mulatta child, the non pro drops this bomb: My baby daddy is suing me for custody or something like that and he will not give consent to leave the country, but I'd love you to take me to Florida.
Fortunately, Vagabundo, being a vagabundo, was playing game, successfully he might add, to penetrate to her seniors, a boss of an important government agency, as well as to network in her office, with the drivers of some heavily armed vehicles. Vagabundo, having acquired the data he was after simply asked her to stop one night on the heavily trafficked drive through Jardim Botanico, borrowed her umbrella, and hit the street to link up with a fellow patriot, to hunt, hunt for pussy, because her bundaoaoaoaoaaoao gggg was going to be too much of a walrus whale blubber of heinous fat for even a humble spy on a the salary of a retired Commander, British Navy to fuck. NFW.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2570143]Vagabundo headed out the door of the Hotel Transamerica at 09 h, just in time to catch the luxury bus to Centro. It is rainy. This time of year one must check the forecast if one plans a viagem with a girl.
Vagabundo had a breakfast at the megamatte in RB156. He wasn't in the mood for pernoite, though some of the usual suspects have been pinging him. The aftertaste of a non pro non mini relationship lingers, with a sour aftertaste. It was a non mini relationship because there was no sex, thank fully. It turns out she wanted favors for her boss, and for her sister. Vagabundo's takeaway is that he is so happy not to have kids, a family, all those nasty obligations. For spirituality, he prefers the God of Spinoza, which Einstein cited. Not the God of churches, but of working girl hooker mongers, who find beauty in the pink, exposed clit of a hooker who is sucking your dick while you are 69 ing with her..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2570143]Frango Assado means missionary with a pillow (traversa) under her ass to push her pussy and ass up for better fucking.[/QUOTE] Frango assado is missionary with her legs on your shoulder, like a grilled chicken on a barbeque stick.
Every brazil monger should learn the basic names for f*ck positions: papai e mamãe, vaqueira, de quatro, cavaleira, borboleta, carrinho de mão, kangaroo penetrá etc...
[QUOTE=Sperto;2570331]Frango assado is missionary with her legs on your shoulder, like a grilled chicken on a barbeque stick.
Every brazil monger should learn the basic names for f*ck positions: papai e mame, vaqueira, de quatro, cavaleira, borboleta, carrinho de mo, kangaroo penetr etc...[/QUOTE]One of the many advantages of having a Brazilian Girlfriend is you learn the Portuguese names for these many positions (and others). Doubt a GDP will have the interest or inclination.
For those of you who have been there and done that, how many times have you cracked up while your partner was describing how to perform the various maneuvers. I usually ask at least 3-4 times just to be sure I get it right. LOL.
As usual, Sperto, thanks for keeping it real.
[QUOTE=Real1;2570260]Hey guys,
This will be my first time in Rio next month. I want to bang as many girls as possible without spending much money. Where can I find the best street hookers for cheap? And where should I stay for the most action? Thanks![/QUOTE]Take a look at Rocinha, lots of street action and cheap accommodations.
My buddy and I have noticed this the last few nights and are wondering why anyone would be compelled to literally flush money down the toilet in this manner? I'm not interested in telling people how to spend their hard earned dollars but it seems like ordering Concombre a la Menthe with Cassoulet at Papa's Shake Shack. But if that's how you roll, then go get it.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2570197]I don't think he's saying dependence like a drug dependence. Just that you come to rely on it for optimal experience and it becomes hard to go without. I certainly fall in this category. Can I go one round without it? Yep. But it's not as satisfying as a Superman hardon. Likewise I was varying from 20 to 40 to 60 MG depending on the situation. But then had a semi fail one night with two rounds on 40. So next time it was 60. And I've been doing 60 Since because I don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.
So yeah dependency in that sense is a real thing.[/QUOTE]I understand we are not talking about chemical dependency. Either do I think of ED meds as a crutch of which you will become psychologically dependent.
A mongering trip can be a crazy lifestyle for some of older guys. When you are running around, drinking and partying, the ED meds are kind of a call to action.
SinfullyKorean mentioned he was in sexual overdrive and having sex beyond his normal libido. In Brazil, Thailand, etc. I might hit a wall. It can be just too much sexual stimulus for an extended period. I might just swear to take a day off unless something spectacular falls into my lap. The problem is in the mongersphere something could easily fall into your lap. Literally!
[QUOTE=Sperto;2570331]Frango assado is missionary with her legs on your shoulder, like a grilled chicken on a barbeque stick.
Every brazil monger should learn the basic names for f*ck positions: papai e mame, vaqueira, de quatro, cavaleira, borboleta, carrinho de mo, kangaroo penetr etc...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2570237]
The girl gets on her back, lets up in the air, and put a pillow (traversa) under her ass to elevate the holes desired.
It could also be on the edge of the bed as you describe.
I am sure our linguistic cuninglinguists will advise us, shortly, here on the dead sea scrolls society of penthouse letters in Portuguese, haha.[/QUOTE]And so I'll stand corrected, confrades, for I'm always eager to learn.
[QUOTE=Real1;2570260]Hey guys,
This will be my first time in Rio next month. I want to bang as many girls as possible without spending much money. Where can I find the best street hookers for cheap? And where should I stay for the most action? Thanks![/QUOTE]Your mission statement is inspiring. Tell us: after having already Read The Fucking Forum (or RTTF for short) for at least 30-40 pages back, what specific questions do you still have?
Had an awesome time so far in my return to Rio after a 15 year absence. Met a gorgeous Brazilian on the plane which got me in the mood as I hit boots on ground. Staying in Copa near Djalma Ulrich where Help used to be. 4 x4 remodel is nice but doesn't feel like 4 x4. It's smaller now like Lions was. Gone is the fire pole that girls took to lower level whiskeria. Talent level is really nice but less girls overall, but still good since customer levels also down. So far, 3 excellent choices in Penelope (tall white 18 yoga blonde), Nadine and Livia (dark skinned brunettes). Also, spent a 1-hour session with Vitoria at Onix, the best session I have had so far.
Happy Friday from Rio!
Dan.
P.S. Anyone here want to hang out, please Private message me!
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[QUOTE=Mexidan;2570447]spent a 1-hour session with Vitoria at Onix, the best session I have had so far.[/QUOTE]Victoria at Onix was my favorite garota while in Rio, which is why I spent 2 hours with her before my flight out to SP. Glad you enjoyed her, too =).
I heard from numerous sources that I should've checked out Copacabana club and Dolce Vita. If you have time, make sure to check them out. They're a short Uber scooter ride away from where you're staying.
Nice report. Liked mixing prives and temas in particular.
I will be in centro at 22 h Friday to link up.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2570447]Had an awesome time so far in my return to Rio after a 15 year absence. Met a gorgeous Brazilian on the plane which got me in the mood as I hit boots on ground. Staying in Copa near Djalma Ulrich where Help used to be. 4 x4 remodel is nice but doesn't feel like 4 x4. It's smaller now like Lions was. Gone is the fire pole that girls took to lower level whiskeria. Talent level is really nice but less girls overall, but still good since customer levels also down. So far, 3 excellent choices in Penelope (tall white 18 yoga blonde), Nadine and Livia (dark skinned brunettes). Also, spent a 1-hour session with Vitoria at Onix, the best session I have had so far.
Happy Friday from Rio!
Dan.
P.S. Anyone here want to hang out, please Private message me![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sperto;2570455]Desinformation is normal procedure here in the forum, but recommending Rocinha for "street hookers for cheap" isn't just stupid but also extremely dangerous.[/QUOTE]It's hard to imagine a scenario where a simple google search doesn't reveal this as obvious ball busting, but I suppose there is a faint and dim possibility where someone actually follows through and books accommodations. Somehow. In Rocinha, and ends up in serious trouble as a result. And in that case I accept the critique. Until then, lighten up.
[URL]https://www.bradmontana.com/videos/a-novata-bibi-grifo/[/URL]
She was there yesterday for dinner.
I just walked up to her and got her number.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2570455]Desinformation is normal procedure here in the forum, but recommending Rocinha for "street hookers for cheap" isn't just stupid but also extremely dangerous.[/QUOTE]No one would take it at face value.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2570500][URL]https://www.bradmontana.com/videos/a-novata-bibi-grifo/[/URL]
She was there yesterday for dinner.
I just walked up to her and got her number.[/QUOTE]The first frame, WTF?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2570581]No one would take it at face value.[/QUOTE]Some tend to take things and themselves too seriously all of the time.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2570476]It's hard to imagine a scenario where a simple google search doesn't reveal this as obvious ball busting, but I suppose there is a faint and dim possibility where someone actually follows through and books accommodations. Somehow. In Rocinha, and ends up in serious trouble as a result. And in that case I accept the critique. Until then, lighten up.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, I didn't understand it was a joke. Regarding accommodation, it's actually popular among backpackers to stay in hostels in the favelas so that part was believable. Looking for cheap street hookers in Rocinha would be unhealthy but I'm sure some gringos actually tries that.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2570031]No, not really.
Some locals might be able to explain it better, but I believe girls in clinicas, prives and termas are basically independent agents. The venue is renting you the room. The girls are providing their services with no strings, no coercion. The girls probably can quit anytime they want. Although, they have to follow the rules of the management while they are working there.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry sir but it doesn't take much research to prove you are wrong. Most of the clinicas, prives, and termas are illegal. They are tolerated and allowed to operate but they remain illegal. Some boates depending on the setup are legal. The most successful of the venues pay bribes to the police in order operate. I've never witnessed or heard of a customer having an issue because I don't believe he is doing anything illegal it's the owner operators of the establishments that are breaking the law. I'm not trying to put a damper on anyone's pleasure and I still go to Brazil and enjoy all of the venues but I don't like false information being posted.
If we have any Brazilian attorneys on the board your input would be appreciated.
Well she just came by after her other work we watched Colombiana because she is from MDE and we banged. She went back to sp. 250 r bbfscip.
That is just a link to some of her vids.
I usually will only pay 150 to a girl who lives here and I get turned down about 50%.
She's way Overdone with the boob job, pretty face, nice pussy but ass way bigger than I like.
She Prefers sp. Find her on Twitter if you like. She's no Mayara Rodrigues who I had 3 times in 2010 or so, or Yasmin mineira in 2015 when she was 18 and before her porn, and Yasmin Vianna in barao in 2011 RIP, and Elisa Sanchez in a apt in flamengo.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2570582]The first frame, WTF?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2570031]Some locals might be able to explain it better, but I believe girls in clinicas, prives and termas are basically independent agents. The venue is renting you the room. The girls are providing their services with no strings, no coercion. The girls probably can quit anytime they want. Although, they have to follow the rules of the management while they are working there.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify. Clinicas and privées are not illegal if they just offers massage. They are not allowed to offer sexual services. Some clinicas makes some effort to look like they are legitimit massage places. They have massage benches, burn incense etc. If you look on the inside of all the f*ck rooms at Belprazer, Dudas etc they have signs telling it's prohibited to have sex in the rooms. In reality they do offers sex (there are a few clinicas that actually only offers massage and HJ).
The girls doesn't rent the rooms. They work for the privées. Normally the privê takes half of what is charged for the sessions. The privées have different rules, but many privées will fine the girls if they don't show up for work.
In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas.
Club 116,114.
My usual wingman has no interest in the favela urchins that I have developed a taste for and so declined to accompany me this given night, but I'm comfortable enough at this point to fly solo at least in the early evening. I have my uber drop me off at the Windsor Guanbara so I can walk a little bit and acclimate to the area before arriving at my target destination. It is a Friday night in Centro, approximately 19:00 hrs and very lively- bands playing, crowds gathering at outdoor tables to eat drink and be merry. It would appear that Centro Friday nights are a time of celebration at the end of the work week and the abandonment of the area by pedestrians does not occur until the following day.
I approach the doors of Club 116, 114 (R the Conceicao 116,114) which are two unguarded narrow openings in a building covered with graffiti in area adjacent to an empty lot with a constant ambient odor of feces. A red light flickers spasmodically in one of the doors, while a hypnagogic bluish glow adorns the other. I chose the left door to 116, and duck into a narrow passage that leads to a dark sequence of stairs. The floor is moist, possibly with urine or other substances, and I scurry like a rat to the top, turn left at the corner and take in a view of the club. Nobody up to this point, aside from the WG who tried to brush me aside to attend to her business, has even noticed my presence. The club is hot, humid, musty and crowded, filled with a raucous group of working-class Brazilian men and a handful of girls that hang on their arms intoning vulgar suggestions into the ears of their intoxicated companions. It is a tough looking scene and although I don't get any glares or necessarily feel out of place, I calculate immediately that my success rate here procuring and sessioning satisfactorily will be very low. Nevertheless I pause for a moment to take it- the mood an inversion of the manicured safety and upmarket hustle in the Copa Tourist Termas. It's worth coming back, but I would only do so on a weekday at an earlier time. Club 114 is similar but not quite as crowded, the interior theécor seemed to be scattered around as if some drunk partygoers had a laugh re-arranging the furniture in odd places or perhaps displaced by sudden gusts of wind from a phantom tornado. It looks like trash or debris is piled in one corner.
Terma 81.
I'm familiar with the area now, so the walk to are the Quitanda, 81 does not take long, but where on the map and in google street view Terma 81 should be, there is nothing. This Terma either no longer exists, is temporarily closed, or does not open on Fridays. Other mongers can advise.
Club 21 de Lux.
Is located in a narrow alleyway off of are Buenos Aires 21 called Beco das Cancelas or something similar. The two guys give me a funny look and say something in Porto that I don't understand as I enter and head up the stairs where a similarly befuddled man at the desks says something again in Porto I do not understand, repeating the word for man (Homem). Peeking into the Boate I gather very quickly that there are no mulheres on the premises and that "apenas homens" means that this club is either now a Gay club, or perhaps Friday night is Gay night. The attendant and door guys have a laugh as I make my retreat. Funny, the existing website for the club appeared hetero- but of course things change quickly.
Terma 502.
I lick my wounds and head to 502 where I run into a young mulatta I had sessioned with earlier in the week, not the one with the smelly hair, a cleaner nicer girl- but not quite as pretty. She was happy to see me, but not wanting to get in a rut, I was reluctant to indulge her and had my first beer of the evening to consider my options- finally deciding a quick dash to Whiskeria 65 would do no harm. The damage at the door after 1 beer is a measly 25. Well worth it for a look.
Terma 65.
It should be noted that 502 and 65 are both robe optional clubs (street clothes ok) which makes it really easy to duck in and out for recon purposes. Terma 65 also has a rotating stable of freelancers so you will get a different group of ladies just about every single night, which makes it great for repeats. Tonight was no exception and I was pleased at the number of new faces but found it hard to operate in the crowded boate. Again it seemed as if Friday is the night that the locals really fill up the place, and so the ratio was not great.
Nursing a beer down in the lounge I'm eventually approached by a super cute young lady of 19 years who had just arrived in Rio 3 days prior from Vitoria in Espirito Santo. She was a bit nervous about everything, but so, so cute, pretty smile, glasses, tight sexy body, young and fresh and when she started making out with me I knew it was on. She was not my usual spinner type, but agreed to my requests and so we headed to the cabine where she provided a fantastic session again with very passionate kissing, DATY, a couple of positions, BBBJ with COF and CIM at the end. Some of my leite ended up in her pinkish / reddish dyed hair and on her cute little glasses, and she disappeared after the ½ hour ostensibly to clean herself in a more private setting and never reappeared before I left so sadly I did not catch her name or get her whatsapp. Total damage at the desk was 305 reals.
Mab's.
I ubered back to Mab's to meet my erstwhile wingman and get some food. We've been hanging out at Mab's a lot recently and have to say the scene is looking good. Lots of talent especially at around 22:30 hrs although it's hit or miss. Some of the girls are asking 400 but can be easily coaxed down to 300 or even 250/200 if they are not picked off too soon. I saw one of my regulars there who is trying to make a ton of money before she heads back home to her rural city and don't care much to be a part of her work marathon so declined her invitations. My buddy found a girl to his liking, and since I didn't need to pop again, I headed home.
Next time I will try 116 at a different day / time and investigate MV30 and possibly Florida After. It appears that Terma Aquarius has closed and I'm not even certain about the other two, but only one way to know for sure.
Zebra Out.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2570618]I'm sorry sir but it doesn't take much research to prove you are wrong. Most of the clinicas, prives, and termas are illegal. They are tolerated and allowed to operate but they remain illegal. Some boates depending on the setup are legal. The most successful of the venues pay bribes to the police in order operate. I've never witnessed or heard of a customer having an issue because I don't believe he is doing anything illegal it's the owner operators of the establishments that are breaking the law. I'm not trying to put a damper on anyone's pleasure and I still go to Brazil and enjoy all of the venues but I don't like false information being posted.
If we have any Brazilian attorneys on the board your input would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Yes, I stand corrected.
It's hard to describe a "shade of gray" when only using the words black and white. Perhaps a Brazilian lawyer could explain the employment status and compensation arrangements of the termas, prive and clinica girls. Obviously, "the house" is collecting the money on behalf of the girls. And yes, the girls must follow the rules.
My comment on black and white is not meant to be argumentative. It's been said many times on ISG that sex venues around the world operate with the tacit approval of authorities whether they are legal or not. A sex venue operating within the law might be shutdown for some reason or another. Mabs is the best example of Brazilian sex workers operating as legal free agents. I'm certain that the authorities could shut it down if it became too big of a scene or any other nuisance.
All anyone on this board cares about is that they won't get in trouble with the law. I also haven't heard of any Brazilian working girls going to jail.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2570656]In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas. I approach the doors of Club 116, 114 (R the Conceicao 116,114) which are two unguarded narrow openings in a building covered with graffiti in area adjacent to an empty lot with a constant ambient odor of feces. A red light flickers spasmodically in one of the doors, while a hypnagogic bluish glow adorns the other. I chose the left door to 116, and duck into a narrow passage that leads to a dark sequence of stairs. The floor is moist, possibly with urine or other substances, and I scurry like a rat to the top, turn left at the corner and take in a view of the club. Nobody up to this point, aside from the WG who tried to brush me aside to attend to her business, has even noticed my presence. The club is hot, humid, musty and crowded, filled with a raucous group of working-class Brazilian men and a handful of girls that hang on their arms intoning vulgar suggestions into the ears of their intoxicated companions. It is a tough looking scene and although I don't get any glares or necessarily feel out of place, I calculate immediately that my success rate here procuring and sessioning satisfactorily will be very low. Nevertheless I pause for a moment to take it- the mood an inversion of the manicured safety and upmarket hustle in the Copa Tourist Termas. It's worth coming back, but I would only do so on a weekday at an earlier time. Club 114 is similar but not quite as crowded, the interior thecor seemed to be scattered around as if some drunk partygoers had a laugh re-arranging the furniture in odd places or perhaps displaced by sudden gusts of wind from a phantom tornado. It looks like trash or debris is piled in one corner.[/QUOTE]Do you see? Am I lying or am I crying? I'm crying if I gots to fuck up in there! The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. No parts left untold. Thanks! Some guys love it, but definitely not for the faint of heart! I would add that the termas of Copa (and other areas) are not just for tourists. Brazilians go to those as well, and they make up the primary clientele. Otherwise, those places could not survive.
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The reason for robes is so street clothes do not smell like perfume, another woman or sex. Smart GDPs do not wear perfume as they know their Brazilian patrons will not want to bring home the scent of another woman (Hoo-ah! Brazilian women take jealousy to a whole other level. Best to be avoided at all costs.
The best love motels (many converted to regular motels and hotels for the Olympics and World Cup) have private entrances where customers and their guests can enter unseen from the street. A safeguard against one of a Brazilian woman's favorite pastimes. Reporting on the indiscretions of her friend's mate. Telenovelas. Life imitates art.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2570656]In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas...........
I approach the doors of Club 116, 114 (R the Conceicao 116,114) which are two unguarded narrow openings in a building covered with graffiti in area adjacent to an empty lot with a constant ambient odor of feces. A red light flickers spasmodically in one of the doors, while a hypnagogic bluish glow adorns the other. I chose the left door to 116, and duck into a narrow passage that leads to a dark sequence of stairs. The floor is moist, possibly with urine or other substances, and I scurry like a rat to the top, turn left at the corner and take in a view of the club. Nobody up to this point, aside from the WG who tried to brush me aside to attend to her business, has even noticed my presence. The club is hot, humid, musty and crowded, filled with a raucous group of working-class Brazilian men and a handful of girls that hang on their arms intoning vulgar suggestions into the ears of their intoxicated companions. It is a tough looking scene and although I don't get any glares or necessarily feel out of place, I calculate immediately that my success rate here procuring and sessioning satisfactorily will be very low. Nevertheless I pause for a moment to take it- the mood an inversion of the manicured safety and upmarket hustle in the Copa Tourist Termas. It's worth coming back, but I would only do so on a weekday at an earlier time. Club 114 is similar but not quite as crowded, the interior thecor seemed to be scattered around as if some drunk partygoers had a laugh re-arranging the furniture in odd places or perhaps displaced by sudden gusts of wind from a phantom tornado. It looks like trash or debris is piled in one corner.[/QUOTE]That is quite a literary image. You would make Papa Hemingway proud.
Since you got a peek at some of the talent, what are your impressions of the ladies? Decent faces? Horse butts? Dark and light girls?
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2570747]That is quite a literary image. You would make Papa Hemingway proud.
Since you got a peek at some of the talent, what are your impressions of the ladies? Decent faces? Horse butts? Dark and light girls?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your nice comment. The talent is similar to 502- which is to say the girls are cut from a rougher cloth than the Tier 1 scene. Mostly on the darker, meatier side- but with a few mignon magra scattered in there. From the little I observed their behavior was far raunchier and unrestricted than the other Terma's with more aggression and directness. I would for sure return, but never on a Friday night.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2570703]The best love motels (many converted to regular motels and hotels for the Olympics and World Cup) have private entrances where customers and their guests can enter unseen from the street. A safeguard against one of a Brazilian woman's favorite pastimes. Reporting on the indiscretions of her friend's mate. Telenovelas. Life imitates art.[/QUOTE]While I have never driven a car to a love motel, I love (no pun) the fact that with some you can drive into a private garage with direct access to your room.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2570779]While I have never driven a car to a love motel, I love (no pun) the fact that with some you can drive into a private garage with direct access to your room.[/QUOTE]And now Uber. Same purpose. Only places I care to drive a car are civilized countries like Germany and Switzerland.
You should always have two addresses when in Rio, call them checkpoints 1 and 2. The first is.
Checkpoint 1.
Rua Visconde de Inhauma, 95 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20091-007•(21) 2121-1212. This is Hotel sao Francisco, or Hotel Atlantico Tower.
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Checkpoint 2.
Av Gastao Senges 395.
Checkpoint 3.
Hotel Panda, Rua Sao Clemente 200 block.
Discussion.
If you are mongering at 4 x 4, 116, or T31, then you should try to get the girl to Hotel Atlantico Tower. It has a good pool on the roof. In fact, if you are mongering at the centro prives during the day, or at any centro termas at night, this is a good spot because you can get a room there for 100 reais or less. There is a good pool on the roof for breaks between fucking. The rooms are fine. Most importantly, it is in walking distance of all the termas, including the dark side termas. It is 200 meters from 116,100 meters from T31,250 meters from 4 x 4, 200 meters from 502,150 meters from metro uruguiana, 75 meters from ave presidente vargas, and it is on Av Rio Branco.
At 116, you will always find the top 10% are porn star quality hot negras and morenas, even a loira with a pretty face. The best morena bundinhas are top shelf. T31 yielded the absolute best in my experience in the last year. 4 x 4 always has top qualilty talent, at a premium price, and is always worth doing. The goal of mongering, the option of which you are buying is the mini relationship, IE, the pernoite a few times a week, for weeks or months on end, a trip to buzios once a month, the new honeymoon once a quarter, new 19 year old just fell in love vibe. The first move is to either hotel Atlántico tower as checkpoint 1 or to Transamerica (checkpoint 2). Checkpoint 3 is Hotel Panda, the best hotel in Rio, in the best local in rio. Botafogo is always better than Copa. It is not a tourist area, it is an upper middle class integrated (near favela Santa Marta) area, where criminals do NOT come looking for gringo tourists.
You're at 10,000 feet and descending.
You don't have a hotel booked.
Where do you tell your uber to go?
Rua Visconde de Inhauma, 95.
And figure it the fuck out from there, because you're codename Vagabundo.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2570747]That is quite a literary image. You would make Papa Hemingway proud.
Since you got a peek at some of the talent, what are your impressions of the ladies? Decent faces? Horse butts? Dark and light girls?[/QUOTE]
I am going to Rio In September with my.
Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2570866]If you are mongering at 4 x 4, 116, or T31, then you should try to get the girl to Hotel Atlantico Tower. It has a good pool on the roof. In fact, if you are mongering at the centro prives during the day, or at any centro termas at night, this is a good spot because you can get a room there for 100 reais or less. There is a good pool on the roof for breaks between fucking. The rooms are fine. Most importantly, it is in walking distance of all the termas, including the dark side termas. It is 200 meters from 116,100 meters from T31,250 meters from 4 x 4, 200 meters from 502,150 meters from metro uruguiana, 75 meters from ave presidente vargas, and it is on Av Rio Branco.
At 116, you will always find the top 10% are porn star quality hot negras and morenas, even a loira with a pretty face. The best morena bundinhas are top shelf. T31 yielded the absolute best in my experience in the last year. 4 x 4 always has top quality talent, at a premium price, and is always worth doing. [/QUOTE]Great advice, thanks.
It looks like an MV30, T31,116 circuit could yield fruit.
[QUOTE=Family1234;2570989]I am going to Rio In September with my.
Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?[/QUOTE]Vila Mimosa, Rua Soteiro dos Reis would be The perfect place for you.
If you are really a NATO military active duty or veteran, I will help you. PM me.
Tell me about Pattaya Beach, especially if you did it as a member of a military service.
[QUOTE=Family1234;2570989]I am going to Rio In September with my.
Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2570656]In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas.
Club 116,114.[/QUOTE]I just call them for what they are, 'trash clubs'. Visited all of them back in October last year, including Club 114 & 116. Your description of the places are spot on. These places are definitely not for the faint of hearts. Between the filthy infrastructures and the trashy women, I don't know what's worse. Be prepared as even decent looking girls are hard to come by. Most are overaged and below average on looks. I had only 3 sessions out of the 30 or so visits over a span of 2 months. I now consider them to be pure luck. The third pull ended up being a dud. Price-wise they are similar to the Centro casas / prives. Zebra, there a few others you didn't visit. I will list the ones I know below. I'm only writing about them because they are rarely discussed, other than by V. Its another source for women for future Rio mongers who want to broaden their horizon beyond the usual termas and casas / prives. That said, for the best quality in the nighttime, the tier 1 termas are the best option. For the best bang for your buck, the casas / prives are very budget friendly with good girl quality and great service.
1) Rua Uruguaiana, 210 - IMO this one is the best of the bunch but that not saying much. Mulatas mostly, ranging from young and in decent shape to 30's with big guts. One of my successful session was from here. A 19 yr old, short, skinny mulata. She's a single mother with a BF. Lived two hours away. Face 6. 5/10. She was nice if not a bit shy. Super GFE lots of hugging and DFK. During sex she almost went bareback on me. It was tempting but in that place I thought better and went for covered. 110 reais for 40 minutes. The mistake pull was also occurred here. A 21 yr old, short average body mulata. I thought she looked hot inside the club. After some eye contact, she came over and we did some basic chitchat. I thought we had some good chemistry. She told me she could do it onsite or in a motel. She quoted me 150 reais to go outside. So I took her offer since I rather be in the comfort of my apt over the filthy onsite rooms. In better lighting outside however, I immediately had buyers remorse, as she wasn't as hot as I thought. But she was still a 7.5-8/10. Along the way, she tells me her birthday is the next day. She tells me she hadn't eaten anything all day. I normally never do this, but since it was her birthday, we stopped by a Mequi and I bought her some food. Once at my place we undressed and she started with a lackluster BBBJ. OK, that's OK I thought. As she came to lay next to me, I went in to kiss her. But she refused. When I asked her why, she said nobody kisses. Whatever that means. I call her out on her BS and she relents. But it was too late, the mood had already been ruined. I gave her the 150 reais and kicked her out. She was a nice girl but I made the rookie mistake of not questioning on details beforehand.
2) are. The Alfândega, 119 - Located on the opposite end of Terma 502. This one is just ok. Doesn't have as many girls as the above. Sessioned only once here and it was a gem. Rafaela was in her 20's, short, slighty chubby morena. Initially I wasn't really into her. She was more on the cute side than beautiful, a solid 7/10. But her bubbly personality and her infectious smile won me over. The onsite shower was filthy so I opted not to take a shower. The room was terribly dim but the bed was big enough for a threesome. Rafeala provided one of the more stellar sessions I've had. She was delicious to kiss. She could go slow and soft or full on DFK. I could've made out with her for the entire session and it would've worth every cent. Her BBBJ was amazing. Her pussy was tight and ever tighter in doggy. Felt like I was anal fucking her. Between that and her big round butt, it didn't take long for me to pop. 110 reais for 40 minutes.
3) Praça Monte Castelo, 26 - Only went here once. I got there late and they were about to close but they allowed me in. I was the only client there. There were 4 girls, one of which was a young white cutie. None of them approached me. They were preparing to leave. I was deciding on whether if I should call her over or not, but I got asked by another girl if I was going to choose anyone and that they are closing. So I left. Do I regret not pulling the trigger? No, not really.
4) Rua Uruguaiana, 145, Rua the Conceição, 114 and 116,4 clubs on Rua Leandro Martins. Ok I am going to group these 7 together as the girl quality in them are pretty much the same in my eyes. The majority of the girls are out of shape, overaged and in the 5-6/10 range. The very few pretty young ones I did happen to see (2 or so), they all had attached themselves to someone and didn't even look my way. I never spent more than 5 minutes in each of them.
Rio (and to lesser extent in sao paulo), the hottest women are the non-pros. I'm rapidly upping my portugues to become fluent. And since I'm not exactly prince charming, my portugues really needs to be on point. I was able to hold basic convos with the clinica girls this last time and that was big confidence booster. But not being able to carry a deeper and more complicated one was really frustrating. Literally like after 10 minutes I'd reach the limit of my vocab. That's fine in the clinicas when I'm finished a bit earily, and we chitchat for the remaining 5-10 minutes. But that's not going to fly when I'm trying to pickup a non-pro on the beach or on a night out.
And I hardly met any girl who spoke decent English in Sao Paulo. The only one was a young cute receptionist I met at at a casa in Santo Andre. Along with one of the working girls (who spoke no English), the three of us had a long fun chat, half in Portuguese, half in English. It was the type of meaningful convo I was looking for which was beyond the basic small chitchat. Maybe if I had actively looked I would of found some. But I was too busy running around the clinicas. I was completely satisfied with the amount of quality girls and services I was getting in the clinicas that I didn't find the need to look for non-pros. I need to find a balance I'm comfortable with and dedicate some time away from mongering. I was in this consistent 'which clinicia I should go next, which girl I need fuck' mode. Haha. Anyone else in the same mindset as me? Perhaps dedicate M-F daytime to mongering and the weekends for non-pros??
[QUOTE=Family1234;2570989]I am going to Rio In September with my.
Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?[/QUOTE]Wow. Please read first. Then post questions. You're trip is in Sept. There's plenty of time to read some excellent field reports. How long's your trip?
Anyone else get slapped with the Gringo Tax. I found a super big booty girl on the internet and reached out to her to set up a meeting. She asked if I was a gringo and then hit me with 500 R an hour.
When I saw on gparena that the price is 300 R an hour.
I decided not to call her out on that since I still would like to fuck her. I plan on getting a phone this week with a Brazilian phone number, so I can curb the chance that the girls hit me with the gringo tax.
SIM Chips.
Phone / Getting a Sim " chippee": Go to Central. Buy the Vivo, as it apparently gets better signal. Then you can charge the number "recarga" at any pharma, kiosk, etc, in order to keep your chip charged. You can also get chips for Tim, claro, etc. The cost is 10 reais, or 17 reais. Tell them you do not have a CPF, and that you want them to "cadastrar". You will see any number of women or sometimes men walking around with little trays with Tim, Claro, or Vivo. Getting a Brazilian number is key for game on zap, which is to say, essential.
116/ trash casas / darkside.
The best quality come out after 19 h, and especially after 22 h. If you are 4 x 4 already, you should go to 116 and T31. Zebra's writing is hemingway-esque and the praise is due. For those of us who have been to Captain Tony's in Key West, or watched Hemingway and Gellhorn, we would know: Hemingway would go to both 4 x4 and 116, probably to VM too, albeit with a guide and a shotgun.
Follow up on 116.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2570866]You should always have two addresses when in Rio, call them checkpoints 1 and 2. The first is.
Checkpoint 1.
Rua Visconde de Inhauma, 95 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20091-007(21) 2121-1212. This is Hotel sao Francisco, or Hotel Atlantico Tower.
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Checkpoint 2...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bravo;2571684]Anyone else get slapped with the Gringo Tax. I found a super big booty girl on the internet and reached out to her to set up a meeting. She asked if I was a gringo and then hit me with 500 R an hour.
When I saw on gparena that the price is 300 R an hour.
I decided not to call her out on that [/QUOTE]Well you damn well should have said something. She said that because a lot of guys that are not in country contact them wasting their time. This was told to me by a chick I hit up in Cuiaba the same way. Hell she even thought I was Brazilian when we met up and asked how I got the strange number because she wants one too.
If she had known you were a serious customer she would have not given you that price. I do not know how well your Portuguese is, but if you have a local number and do not write the language well they will still know you are not from there.
[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2571115]I just call them for what they are, 'trash clubs'. Visited all of them back in October last year, including Club 114 & 116. Your description of the places are spot on. These places are definitely not for the faint of hearts. Between the filthy infrastructures and the trashy women, I don't know what's worse. Be prepared as even decent looking girls are hard to come by. Most are overaged and below average on looks. I had only 3 sessions out of the 30 or so visits over a span of 2 months. I now consider them to be pure luck. The third pull ended up being a dud. Price-wise they are similar to the Centro casas / prives. Zebra, there a few others you didn't visit. I will list the ones I know below. I'm only writing about them because they are rarely discussed, other than by V. Its another source for women for future Rio mongers who want to broaden their horizon beyond the usual termas and casas / prives. That said, for the best quality in the nighttime, the tier 1 termas are the best option. For the best bang for your buck, the casas / prives are very budget friendly with good girl quality and great service.[/QUOTE]This a great informative post Mr DreamC, I really appreciate the time and detail and useful recon- I will come back to this when I have more attention and take some notes to use in the field.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2571714]Well you damn well should have said something. She said that because a lot of guys that are not in country contact them wasting their time. This was told to me by a chick I hit up in Cuiaba the same way. Hell she even thought I was Brazilian when we met up and asked how I got the strange number because she wants one too.
If she had known you were a serious customer she would have not given you that price. I do not know how well your Portuguese is, but if you have a local number and do not write the language well they will still know you are not from there.[/QUOTE]There is an interesting thread on gpguia, where a guy with two phone numbers called three girls, who had ads on Private55 and some other site like Fatalmodel. Every time when he was asked where he found her and he said Private55, the price was higher. Private55 is considered more upscale/premium than the other site the girls had their ads.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2571684]Anyone else get slapped with the Gringo Tax. I found a super big booty girl on the internet and reached out to her to set up a meeting. She asked if I was a gringo and then hit me with 500 R an hour.
When I saw on gparena that the price is 300 R an hour.
I decided not to call her out on that since I still would like to fuck her. I plan on getting a phone this week with a Brazilian phone number, so I can curb the chance that the girls hit me with the gringo tax.[/QUOTE]Did you tell her you found her on GParena?
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2571693]SIM Chips.
Phone / Getting a Sim " chippee": Go to Central. Buy the Vivo, as it apparently gets better signal. Then you can charge the number "recarga" at any pharma, kiosk, etc, in order to keep your chip charged. You can also get chips for Tim, claro, etc. The cost is 10 reais, or 17 reais. Tell them you do not have a CPF, and that you want them to "cadastrar". You will see any number of women or sometimes men walking around with little trays with Tim, Claro, or Vivo. Getting a Brazilian number is key for game on zap, which is to say, essential.
.[/QUOTE]Is there a way to keep your number 'charged' when you are out of the country so you won't have to get a new number every time you travel to Rio.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2571794]Is there a way to keep your number 'charged' when you are out of the country so you won't have to get a new number every time you travel to Rio.[/QUOTE]I've had my Brazilian number since 2019 with 'Oi'. I only recharge it when I am in Brazil. Never recharged it once while I was outside of Brazil. Can't speak for the other operators.
Lots to report so buckle your seatbelts and enjoy the ride. Full disclaimer. Most of this is regarding non-mongering activities but does have mongering implications / uses.
1.) I've spent several days recently in Buzios. What is Buzios you may ask? It is a luxury beach town about 3-4 hours outside of Rio. You will likely be paying US prices for things, but I found the excess costs to to be worth it. A few times I looked out over the water and thought I was in Italy or Greece. This place is worth bringing a non-pro for a weekend getaway. It wasn't very crowded because it is winter time, but locals did inform me that there are working girls in the clubs during the summertime. You can get a nice Airbnb for $100+/ night during the offseason.
2.) If you are visiting Rio as a newbie, like myself, one should indulge in the sites to see but be careful of your surroundings. I went into a few favelas since I blend in and was with a friend who knows the lay of the land / is Brazilian. While visiting these places may be enticing, I don't advise it for your average monger unless you take a formal tour. My speculation is that these tours are arranged through the companies and local gangs to ensure the safety of the tourists, as it brings money to the favelas. Be careful.
3.) I do recommend the average newbie visit the Christ statue, Lapas (famous steps), Saint Theresa, and the Botanical Gardens. Just take a formal tour. It is worth it even if you are only here for a week or so. There is a lot to see.
4.) If you are looking for a good non-pro social scene and are a senior member who has contributed to the forum, feel free to PM me and I will advise you on some great locations. But, you need to speak Portuguese or else you will not have any success.
5.) I did my due diligence and explored the darkside termas. I was not a fan. At all. For me, mongering is about quality and convenience. I found them to be dirty and the talent lacking for my tastes (brancas). Yes, there are brancas there, but it is like finding a diamond in the rough, which violates the principle of convenience. I'm ok with paying more for the convenience of 4 x4, 65, MC, Solarium, and even Centaurus. Experienced mongers looking for a bargain deal will of course disagree with me on this by stating that there is quality on the darkside and that the girls at these other termas are not much better for the price. To that I say this: if the average in a darkside termas is a 4 (a huge stretch BTW), while the average in a tier 1 terma is a 6, I'd rather be harassed and annoyed by 6's in a comfortable and clean environment where I can more easily find the 8+ that I am looking for. And yes, I am willing to pay for it because it is my money to spend.
But TIA, don't you rave about Santa Fe in Bogota which is known to be dirty and dangerous? Absolutely, but SF clubs are 1.) very safe and mostly clean and 2.) the talent there is some of the best I have ever seen, consistently. The darkside termas of Rio are not the same. I'd go to these darkside termas more if the quality was worth it for my tastes, but its just not there. It is worth noting for those familiar with Bogota that the girls who work in SF are the same ones who work in the more expensive northern clubs. The dynamic doesn't seem to be the same here in Rio, as the quality difference between darkside and even MC is so vast. There's no difference between Lidos (Zona T) and Troya (Santa Fe) on a Friday night in Bogota.
Bottom line: if you are a newbie to Rio, are interested primarily in brancas, and simply want the convenience of higher quality laid out for you in a comfortable environment, stick to 4 x4, 65, MC, Solarium, and Centaurus. You will pay more for this experience. Also BarraVIPs. Nothing but positive experiences with it so far.
6.) I still plan to visit the local massage places to see which ones offer FS, perhaps to help with continuous updates to World Traveler's map.
7.) Admittedly, I have not checked out DV or Mabs yet. Still on the list.
8.) Heading to SP soon. Talked to SK about his experiences there and am looking forward to it. The clinicas and places like Connections / Scandallo seem to be more my vibe. Quality and convenience.
You keep it on your whatsapp. Use both whatsapp and zapbiz. Get a google phone which allows multiple users. With 4 users and using both zaps, you can have 8 numbers. Keeping the chip alive itself may not be necessary.
As we say, I don't do IT, and I can't help stupid.
[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2571802]I've had my Brazilian number since 2019 with 'Oi'. I only recharge it when I am in Brazil. Never recharged it once while I was outside of Brazil. Can't speak for the other operators.[/QUOTE]
I would strongly suggest the terma, Mosaico, after midnight, and really best after 2 AM. It is in VM.
I also strongly suggest the prives, which you seem on your way to doing, especially the top tier prives.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2571832]Lots to report so buckle your seatbelts and enjoy the ride. Full disclaimer. Most of this is regarding non-mongering activities but does have mongering implications / uses.
1.) I've spent several days recently in Buzios. What is Buzios you may ask? It is a luxury beach town about 3-4 hours outside of Rio. You will likely be paying US prices for things, but I found the excess costs to to be worth it. A few times I looked out over the water and thought I was in Italy or Greece. This place is worth bringing a non-pro for a weekend getaway. It wasn't very crowded because it is winter time, but locals did inform me that there are working girls in the clubs during the summertime. You can get a nice Airbnb for $100+/ night during the offseason.
2.) If you are visiting Rio as a newbie, like myself, one should indulge in the sites to see but be careful of your surroundings. I went into a few favelas since I blend in and was with a friend who knows the lay of the land / is Brazilian. While visiting these places may be enticing, I don't advise it for your average monger unless you take a formal tour. My speculation is that these tours are arranged through the companies and local gangs to ensure the safety of the tourists, as it brings money to the favelas. Be careful.
3.) I do recommend the average newbie visit the Christ statue, Lapas (famous steps), Saint Theresa, and the Botanical Gardens. Just take a formal tour. It is worth it even if you are only here for a week or so. There is a lot to see.
4.) If you are looking for a good non-pro social scene and are a senior member who has contributed to the forum, feel free to PM me and I will advise you on some great locations. But, you need to speak Portuguese or else you will not have any success..[/QUOTE]
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5.) I did my due diligence and explored the darkside termas. I was not a fan. At all. For me, mongering is about quality and convenience. I found them to be dirty and the talent lacking for my tastes (brancas). Yes, there are brancas there, but it is like finding a diamond in the rough, which violates the principle of convenience. I'm ok with paying more for the convenience of 4 x4, 65, MC, Solarium, and even Centaurus. Experienced mongers looking for a bargain deal will of course disagree with me on this by stating that there is quality on the darkside and that the girls at these other termas are not much better for the price. To that I say this: if the average in a darkside termas is a 4 (a huge stretch BTW), while the average in a tier 1 terma is a 6, I'd rather be harassed and annoyed by 6's in a comfortable and clean environment where I can more easily find the 8+ that I am looking for. And yes, I am willing to pay for it because it is my money to spend.
Bottom line: if you are a newbie to Rio, are interested primarily in brancas, and simply want the convenience of higher quality laid out for you in a comfortable environment, stick to 4 x4, 65, MC, Solarium, and Centaurus. You will pay more for this experience. Also BarraVIPs. Nothing but positive experiences with it so far.
.[/QUOTE]Thank you for writing this. My views exactly. At least you did due diligence. My diligence was asking my agent in Rio about VM and he started laughing and told me it was trash and would never go there. That was good enough diligence for me 🤣.
Convenience is a big deal to me. I don't see why I should go from one to another to another "hoping to find a diamond in the rough". I would rather go to one where I am pretty much assured of a few diamonds at a higher price.
In the end. To each his own.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2571844]Thank you for writing this. My views exactly. At least you did due diligence. My diligence was asking my agent in Rio about VM and he started laughing and told me it was trash and would never go there. That was good enough diligence for me 🤣.
Convenience is a big deal to me. I don't see why I should go from one to another to another "hoping to find a diamond in the rough". I would rather go to one where I am pretty much assured of a few diamonds at a higher price.
In the end. To each his own.[/QUOTE]Some things are better lived vicariously!
[QUOTE=Bravo;2571794]Is there a way to keep your number 'charged' when you are out of the country so you won't have to get a new number every time you travel to Rio.[/QUOTE]Sure there is. Etopuponline. But for me, since the invention of whatsapp and T-mobile's free international internet, having a Brazilian SIM went the way of the dodo bird about 8-10 years ago.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2571852]Sure there is. Etopuponline. But for me, since the invention of whatsapp and T-mobile's free international internet, having a Brazilian SIM went the way of the dodo bird about 8-10 years ago.[/QUOTE]So True. I concur, unless you actually understand and speak fluent Portuguese and want the have a verbal conversation there is no reason to have a Brazilian SIM. Generally all GP's use WhatsApp or Zap (or other internet / WiFi based messaging service), all you need is an international internet access plan from your Cellphone provider or from any number of Cellular Plan providers.
But if you wish its easy to get a Brazilian SIM Card, just bring your passport when going to any one of The four largest mobile phone companies in Brazil are [B]Vivo[/B] (Telefnica / Portugal Telecom), [B]Claro[/B] (Amrica Movil), [B]TIM[/B] (Telecom Italia Mobile) and [B]Oi[/B] (Telemar) located in the Major malls.
also read [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2499906&viewfull=1#post2499906[/url]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2571844]Thank you for writing this. My views exactly. At least you did due diligence. My diligence was asking my agent in Rio about VM and he started laughing and told me it was trash and would never go there. That was good enough diligence for me 🤣.
Convenience is a big deal to me. I don't see why I should go from one to another to another "hoping to find a diamond in the rough". I would rather go to one where I am pretty much assured of a few diamonds at a higher price.
In the end. To each his own.[/QUOTE]I 100% agree with this post.
The tier 1 termas are such good value (for my level of cleanliness and safety) plus prives.
(SP clinica and boates cleanliness / convenience / level of girls are it's biggest strengths and the only thing that give rio it's run for it's money).
I'm not a neat freak or anything like that but there's a line that I personally won't go below and everyone has that line it's just higher or lower for different folks.
Trying out some non-pros would definitely be a better adventure I believe.
From what I gather the poster who stay for extended period of times in rio, it makes more sense to try out everything rio has to offer and save some cash and earn some interesting stories along the way.
(there are certain days / times to go to different termas / clinicas and if you time it right you definitely can score big time).
But for posters like myself who will only be there for 8 days or so it might not be as lucrative as the clock is always ticking and the days really fly by when you're having a great time!
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3.) I do recommend the average newbie visit the Christ statue, Lapas (famous steps), Saint Theresa, and the Botanical Gardens. Just take a formal tour. It is worth it even if you are only here for a week or so. There is a lot to see.[/QUOTE]Don't forget one major tourist attraction Monumento Natural dos Morros do Po de Acar e the Urca (aka Sugarloaf Mountain) [URL]https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sugarloaf+mountain+rio+de+janeiro&FORM=HDRSC3[/URL] plus all the local beaches.
Other considerations (architectural) if time permits - Niteroi Contemporary Art Museum, Museu do Amanha (Museum of Tomorrow, and Rio de Janeiro Cathedral (Catedral de So Sebastio do Rio de Janeiro).
Great nigth out with ' the boys'.
Miamiboy.
Tia.
Zebra.
Like 4 superheros we mongered over from 65 to 44.
All that is written is true, it is a good venue.
I got like 10 numbers.
I am back at the love shak with Monique.
Look, all you superheros, vagabundo only wants world peace, and a few thousand or maybe a million concubines.
As we are all offloading cash from the ships which regularly flow into Rio like moonrakers it makes no difference.
Vagabundo is watching gia derza anally ploughed by a preto while he prepares to plough a pretinha.
And this time of year, the hold outs for pernoite at the tier 1 termas are coming around.
Cash is king.
300 pernoite is the programa, and it will be a 24 hour sessiion.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2571832]Lots to report so buckle your seatbelts and enjoy the ride. Full disclaimer. Most of this is regarding non-mongering activities but does have mongering implications / uses.
1.) I've spent several days recently in Buzios. What is Buzios you may ask? It is a luxury beach town about 3-4 hours outside of Rio. You will likely be paying US prices for things, but I found the excess costs to to be worth it. A few times I looked out over the water and thought I was in Italy or Greece. This place is worth bringing a non-pro for a weekend getaway. It wasn't very crowded because it is winter time, but locals did inform me that there are working girls in the clubs during the summertime. You can get a nice Airbnb for $100+/ night during the offseason.
2.) If you are visiting Rio as a newbie, like myself, one should indulge in the sites to see but be careful of your surroundings. I went into a few favelas since I blend in and was with a friend who knows the lay of the land / is Brazilian. While visiting these places may be enticing, I don't advise it for your average monger unless you take a formal tour. My speculation is that these tours are arranged through the companies and local gangs to ensure the safety of the tourists, as it brings money to the favelas. Be careful.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2571850]Some things are better lived vicariously![/QUOTE]Very true but I have done enough vicarious shit in my 20's and 30's to last a lifetime. I am till suprised how I am alive, how I have yet to be robbed and beaten or how I was able out of some jams.
Today, I have the money and the wisdom to keep a low profile and just enjoy my time at a nicer joint that meet my standard.
Let the young, dumb and full of cum types enjoy their daring adventures 🤣.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2571832]Lots to report so buckle your seatbelts and enjoy the ride. Full disclaimer. Most of this is regarding non-mongering activities but does have mongering implications / uses. If you are looking for a good non-pro social scene and are a senior member who has contributed to the forum, feel free to PM me and I will advise you on some great locations. [b]But, you need to speak Portuguese or else you will not have any success. [/b][/QUOTE]Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone. However, in my experience if you're in an environment of Middle to Upper-Class, University Students, Large Corporate (generally international or US / UK based), Mid to High End Retail, Hospitality, Service Professionals, and etc. , they do speak English and other foreign languages. [U]The problem is do they want to speak to you??[/U] Problem solved if you know Portuguese fluently but you're not totally out of luck if they [U]have a desire to speak to you[/U] in English. Sure, its hit or miss but it can happen (and you may feel your wasting your time) just depends on the environment you're in. Believe me the Brazilians know who the Gringos are.
For those who are working in a large company with a Brazilian office or have a Friend who is Brazilian, connect with them. Again, this is your non-mongering time. I have had friends refer me to a Brazilians who they worked with in country while on a contract to hang with. They contacted their contact indicated I was visiting, and the contact showed me the town once I arrived. They knew or had a better idea of the locations where Brazilian patrons have likelihood of knowing ESL. (I. E. , Company X happy hour at Restaurant&bar X).
Just like in the States some people of other nationalities speak English but if you ask them a question, they indicate they do not understand you. In most cases they do not want to be bothered with you.
Haven't you been for example. The grocery store and the cashier utters something to you like "are you a frequent store discount member?" or instructions you do not understand in Portuguese to which you do not know what is being said looking bewildered and a customer in line behind steps up recognizing you don't understand and comes to your aid and translates the cashier's question or instructions?? Yes, it probably happens to everyone at some point. Would said customer if you walked up to them cold and asked a question would respond? Who knows but since you were holding up the line and their desire to get out of the store they stepped up to translate and help you so the line could start moving again. LOL.
Finally some friends and I were in Leme at [URL=http://marius.com.br/]Restaurante Marius Degustare[/URL] and a nice looking Carioca asked my friend if he was from Texas since he had a Houston Rockets Jersey and 6'9 (probably thought he was a player) anyway she initiated contact, spoke English because she had a "desire" to converse with my friend. They did eventually exchange numbers but nothing never happened since we were flying out the next day.
Codename Vagabundo executed a movement to contact by the 19 h bus from Barra.
As he pushed to centro, team ISG -- fuck you-- was hovering like demons in the night.
The night was rainy. Vagabundo had on a Goretex Parka, over a Rio Lifeguard red rash guard shirt, and bombeiro pants with a rip in his crotch, letting his nuts hang out, a little something for the ladies. He had an invicta blade in the pocket, expertly sharpened in a little shop in Lapa off Riachuelo. The other sharpening services suck.
He also carried a SOG Seal Strike inside his waistband.
Heading into centro, TIA, Miami, and Zebra stated their pos at 65, where Zebra had already torpedoed a carioca hole or three.
From checkpoint 65, just a block north of a big ass church, and two blocks west of the Tribunal Maritimo, which adjudicates all maritime disputes in Brazil, SEAL TEAM ISG, with a Swiss Guard liaison headed West towards 4 x4.
One wag mentioned club 21, some new gay club, which sounded pretty gay, but since the team was headed to 44, it was not gay at all, just a laughing matter.
A sniper fired off a few suppressed rounds, but Vagabundo threw a HC smoke, and TIA put on his thermals and whacked the aggressor with a few silenced shots. Zebra, being a endangered species, took cover.
That was all bullshit. Just a typical Hemingway esque lie. All the great writers are liars.
After punching out the doormen, and tossing their bodies in the bay, our team of 4 heros, made their way up to the 3 d floor, the main boate.
Vagabundo got like 10 numbers.
Zebra, being a animal from the fields of Africa, sessioned again.
Miami being from Miami, fucked a hot little number, a morena with a tight little size zero body. Vagabundo got her number, and vowed to turn her into a asset for the Vatican intelligence services.
TIA well, he probably sessioned too, but Vagabundo has been smoking whacky tabaccy, on Copperhead Road.
Meanwhile, Gato1 and Mexidan were in VM. Vagabundo missed mongering with his quick reaction force. Mexidan and Gato1 likely had a orgy with Eliza Sanches who is seen in VM often. Then Gato1 and Mexidan executed a uber mobile infiltration to 65, where they also speared the assholes pussies and mouths of likely some of the same holes used by Zebra.
From there, Vagabundo got a indriver and picked up Monique, took her home to Transamerica, where we are watching Dom, but Vagabundo is plotting to fuck all those sweet 4 x4 girls, including some super hotties who have been resisting the charms of our hero, Vagabundo, who promised to take them to Arrail or Buzios and fotograph their tight little asses in the sunlight for their instagram bunda content.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2571950]Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone. However, in my experience if you're in an environment of Middle to Upper-Class, University Students, Large Corporate (generally international or US / UK based), Mid to High End Retail, Hospitality, Service Professionals, and etc. , they do speak English and other foreign languages. [U]The problem is do they want to speak to you??[/U] Problem solved if you know Portuguese fluently but you're not totally out of luck if they [U]have a desire to speak to you[/U] in English. Sure, its hit or miss but it can happen (and you may feel your wasting your time) just depends on the environment you're in. Believe me the Brazilians know who the Gringos are.[/QUOTE]If you're hell bent on courting a non-pro, Sampa is better than Rio, and Brasilia is better than Sampa, and, I think, the ultimate place to find an English-speaking non-pro IMHO. Whenever I've met denizens of the Capital in my travels, all of them spoke English. There is no science in these observations, LOL, but it's been my experience.
Vagabundo must be careful not to disclose sources for the Vatican intelligence services.
But he met a Brazilian Navy Lieutenant, female type.
***** spoke good English, but had a little mulata kid, and was basically looking for a visa for her boss and admiral, and her sister, a nun, and then the baby daddy sued.
If you are looking for non pros, you must go to the rich temples.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2571950]Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone. However, in my experience if you're in an environment of Middle to Upper-Class, University Students, Large Corporate (generally international or US / UK based), Mid to High End Retail, Hospitality, Service Professionals, and etc. , they do speak English and other foreign languages. [U]The problem is do they want to speak to you??[/U] Problem solved if you know Portuguese fluently but you're not totally out of luck if they [U]have a desire to speak to you[/U] in English. Sure, its hit or miss but it can happen (and you may feel your wasting your time) just depends on the environment you're in. Believe me the Brazilians know who the Gringos are.
For those who are working in a large company with a Brazilian office or have a Friend who is Brazilian, connect with them. Again, this is your non-mongering time. I have had friends refer me to a Brazilians who they worked with in country while on a contract to hang with. They contacted their contact indicated I was visiting, and the contact showed me the town once I arrived. They knew or had a better idea of the locations where Brazilian patrons have likelihood of knowing ESL. (I. E. , Company X happy hour at Restaurant&bar X)..[/QUOTE]
Always keep this card on your phone and be ready to suggest meeting there, for pro or non pro.
Its like the AMEX for bunda.
Trust me.
Don't make codename VAGABUNDO send pictures.
He was born in 502.
If you want her contact PM me.
This is the hooker who gave me my callsign, Vagabundo.
She'd love to have as much dick up her ass as humanly possible, haha.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2571950]Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone.[/QUOTE]As someone who has lived among Brazilians for extended periods of time and over a long period of time, this statement is false. You can stop reading everything after.
It get's old reading nonsense from people who have no idea what they are talking about.
1. Netflix.
2. Netflix.
3. Your government could send you to a language class, but you will come out with diplomatic Portuguese, and miss all the fun of poxa, caralho, eita.
4. Felipe Ret videos, translate the verse.
5. Take the language class at PUC-Rio. Br, like Bubba Boy advised. In person, when available. Serves the double purpose of meeting the locals.
6. Netflix.
7. Local girlfirend, Netflix.
8 Netflix at home in Wisconson, Porto audio / English subtitles, or vice versa.
9. Netflix, Amazon, Dom.
10. Netflix.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2571950]Finally some friends and I were in Leme at [URL=http://marius.com.br/]Restaurante Marius Degustare[/URL] and a nice looking Carioca asked my friend if he was from Texas since he had a Houston Rockets Jersey and 6'9 (probably thought he was a player) anyway she initiated contact, spoke English because she had a "desire" to converse with my friend. They did eventually exchange numbers but nothing never happened since we were flying out the next day.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2571932]Very true but I have done enough vicarious shit in my 20's and 30's to last a lifetime. I am till suprised how I am alive, how I have yet to be robbed and beaten or how I was able out of some jams. Today, I have the money and the wisdom to keep a low profile and just enjoy my time at a nicer joint that meet my standard.[/QUOTE]Totally don't understand your response. Do you understand what "vicarious" means? To live vicariously is to experience through the imagination or through the actions of others. So how could you have been endangering yourself by "doing vicarious shit"? But in the end, we agree. Leave the "dark side" to those who dare to go there!
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2571950]Not too sure about being unsuccessful but it's complicated. A lot of Brazilians (non-Pros) do speak English nevertheless the problem with my dissertation is you can't tell by looking at someone. However, in my experience if you're in an environment of Middle to Upper-Class, University Students, Large Corporate (generally international or US / UK based), Mid to High End Retail, Hospitality, Service Professionals, and etc. , they do speak English and other foreign languages. [U]The problem is do they want to speak to you??[/U] Problem solved if you know Portuguese fluently but you're not totally out of luck if they [U]have a desire to speak to you[/U] in English. Sure, its hit or miss but it can happen (and you may feel your wasting your time) just depends on the environment you're in. Believe me the Brazilians know who the Gringos are.[/QUOTE]My observation is if you are 45 & under with some game, you can fit in most clubs geared to 20 somethings. You can get by if you are older if you look younger and are in good shape. Otherwise, you will look like the creepy, old foreign guy at the club. That is if they let you in. LOL.
Many English speaking non-pros in less wealthy countries are intrigued by gringos. That is one of the reasons they studied English and did well. It opens up opportunities for them. I would speak English with my buddies (yes, wingmen are still valuable) and you can see the English-speaking girls' antennas go up. If they will speak to you in English for awhile, that is obviously a good sign. Now some venues are known as pick-up clubs others less so. As always, the rest is how you play it.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2571950]I do recommend the average newbie visit the Christ statue, Lapas (famous steps), Saint Theresa, and the Botanical Gardens. Just take a formal tour. It is worth it even if you are only here for a week or so. There is a lot to see.[/QUOTE]I've found formal tours of Rio to be very overpriced. They take advantage of the fact tourists staying at the beach either do not know local prices or highly value being guided around. The hotels are steering people to these tours.
Since many mongers will be jutting around around Rio anyway, you can make an "off-book" arrangement with an Uber driver. Make a list of sites and show it to him / her. It doesn't take too much Portuguese to work this out. Find an Uber driver that you like and say something like "cuanto por seis horas?" (or whatever hours you prefer) and show them a feasible list of locations. They'll figure out the sequence based on location and traffic.
Logistically, I don't remember the layout of Cristo Redentor or Sugarloaf, but they should be able to wait in the parking lot. There is a trust factor though. You might have to pay some drivers as you go. I paid my guy 40 USA Dollars and he didn't seem too worried about being paid at the end. We also had each other's phone numbers in case I couldn't find him at the drop zone. I did take him to lunch, but I like hanging with locals. I usually find a cool Uber driver my first day or two. It's actually not unusual for an Uber driver in Brazil to hand you a card. Same guy drove me to GIG airport.
If you really want an English-speaking guide, you might be able to find a local guy with a car who is reasonable on Tripadvisor. Obviously, this is all cheaper if you are with a bud or two.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2572043]Always keep this card on your phone and be ready to suggest meeting there, for pro or non pro.
Its like the AMEX for bunda.
Trust me.
Don't make codename VAGABUNDO send pictures.[/QUOTE]Be sure to bring your bamboo rod!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2572066]Totally don't understand your response. Do you understand what "vicarious" means? To live vicariously is to experience through the imagination or through the actions of others. So how could you have been endangering yourself by "doing vicarious shit"? But in the end, we agree. Leave the "dark side" to those who dare to go there![/QUOTE]I knew a Vicar in Rio that took male visitors to the "dark side" termas for research purposes. I thought that was what you were talking about. Wink.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2572045]As someone who has lived among Brazilians for extended periods of time and over a long period of time, this statement is false. You can stop reading everything after.
It get's old reading nonsense from people who have no idea what they are talking about.[/QUOTE]Really! Just like that you speak and we take it as fact. BS simply BS. What makes it so wrong? Three sentences to claim a post is totally without merit. Wow. No explanation of a countervailing point of view. I simply posted my real experiences in Rio based on another posters comments.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2571964]If you're hell bent on courting a non-pro, Sampa is better than Rio, and Brasilia is better than Sampa, and, I think, the ultimate place to find an English-speaking non-pro IMHO. Whenever I've met denizens of the Capital in my travels, all of them spoke English. There is no science in these observations, LOL, but it's been my experience.[/QUOTE]It's a lot of work and no one should expect instant gratification. It also depends on whether you can handle yourself with women back home. However, the Brazilian women in second tier cities are generally friendlier to foreign men. Think Curitiba, Belo Horizonte, Porto Alegre, Brasilia etc.
If you have reasons to be in Brazil that takes you down there often and / or have Brazilian friends and colleagues, this helps considerably.
I don't know if Rio non-pros are still concerned with the stigma of socializing with foreign men. It was notably true during the height of Rio's mongering glory in the 2000's.
Quoting Xpartan: "There is no science in these observations, LOL, but it's been my experience. " Truer words have never been spoken.
To VB's report regarding last night's festivities. For my tastes, I actually thought 65 had better quality last night overall but MiamiBoy disagreed with me. Both 4 x4 and 65 were pretty decent overall, though the quality started to decline after 9:30 pm or so. This just goes to show that beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Sessioned with a pretty branca at 4 x4. Well, mostly branca. Perhaps 75% with the rest being native of some type but I have no idea. Amazing GFE, though I didn't ask for it. BBBJ, (covered) anal, and COF. Truly enthusiastic and she put on a great performance. You really get a good bang for your buck at 4 x4 as the damage was under R500. This included several drinks over the course of 3-4 hours and 30 minutes with the girl in the standard cabin. As I have previously stated, the bang for the buck is not what I seek. I look for quality and convenience. 4 x4 seems to be the perfect combination thereof, despite my initial observations.
About to go check out a prive, then perhaps head to a termas tonight (which I will go to remains unknown).
Heading to SP next week.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2572171]To VB's report regarding last night's festivities. For my tastes, I actually thought 65 had better quality last night overall but MiamiBoy disagreed with me. Both 4 x4 and 65 were pretty decent overall, though the quality started to decline after 9:30 pm or so. This just goes to show that beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Sessioned with a pretty branca at 4 x4. Well, mostly branca. Perhaps 75% with the rest being native of some type but I have no idea. Amazing GFE, though I didn't ask for it. BBBJ, (covered) anal, and COF. Truly enthusiastic and she put on a great performance. You really get a good bang for your buck at 4 x4 as the damage was under R500. This included several drinks over the course of 3-4 hours and 30 minutes with the girl in the standard cabin. As I have previously stated, the bang for the buck is not what I seek. I look for quality and convenience. 4 x4 seems to be the perfect combination thereof, despite my initial observations.[/QUOTE]Great report and great news to hear that 4 x 4 and 65 are getting back in form.
From my experience of many nights at 4 x 4, it is hot between 5 and 10 pm with the peak time in the middle. This synchronizes with the schedules of the local businessmen. It's easy to tell the wife or girlfriend that you are going out for drinks with co-workers. Boys will be boys and Brasileiros will be Brasileiros! LOL.
It's been a while since I've written a trip report. I felt that I couldn't add any value since I mainly do my own thing in Brazil. This will probably be more for the newbies but maybe some of the information will help some vets. While in Brazil I didn't read any ISG reports so if I repeat some information, please forgive me.
Pre trip. For those of us living in the USA We are so lucky. Since you need a negative pcr test 72 hours before departure, we have lots of choices. I seen prices low to very high but I took the test at the local CVS. When I called the assistant told me the test was free and normally the results come back within one or two days. Took the test and early morning on the second day I got my negative result back. Nothing beats free.
For piece of mind, I did get travel insurance with covid coverage. I went with Seven Corners with a cost of $300.00 usd for twelve days. Fortunately I didn't have to use it.
Flt. I flew on United. Between the booking and actual flight, the schedule changed about five times before United cancelled their flights to Rio. I believe they said the cancellation would be in effect until at least August. I rebooked with the following schedule on United. Lax-iah-gru-sdu which worked out fine with me since I like flying into sdu more than gig. For those of you that don't know the lay of the land and your booking got cancelled into gig, get the flight to sdu. This airport is just outside of centro and your ride to Copacabana, Ipanema, etc will be shorter and cheaper.
Sim card. Here's an option for those guys who like using a local sim card to keep their real number away from the girls. Also, It's cheaper than the $10.00 usd a day that At&t charges. While in Centro, go to Rio Branco 156. Yes that are / be 156. Near the back of the building there is a Vivo store. You don't need to sign in as you are not using the elevator. Here you can choose different plans. There are no tourist sim card that I know of so this comes pretty close. They have a seven day, 15 day, or monthly plans. You can go to the Vivo Brazil website for prices and plans. You do need to show your passport so please don't forget it. The person helping me took care of everything. Switching the sim card and activating the local card. The person helping me didn't speak English and my Portuguese still sucks but there are people there that do speak English. I bought the 15 day card and charged it up with are $100.00 and it worked like a charm. It even worked in most metro stations.
Metro card. For those of you intimidated by the self serve ticket machine, don't worry, there's a button for English to make it very easy to purchase. The card is good for the metro, vlt, boat, and buses.
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2572192]
For piece of mind, I did get travel insurance with covid coverage. I went with Seven Corners with a cost of $300.00 usd for twelve days. Fortunately I didn't have to use it.
[/QUOTE]What kind of plan did you get? Mine is like 80 USD for a month and it seems to be very comprehensive, though fortunately I have not had to use it as well. I even got the COVID coverage which, as a young man, seemed wholly unnecessary.
Termas in no particular order. My ratings and side comments. Standard = Deep kissing, bbj and covered full service. Great = standard + extra little things. Exceptional = standard + great + great connection.
Mahattan Good. About 12-14 girls. Average to slightly above average in looks. I did one girl who I met there last year. Her service was great. She let me bb to completion. One of the few times at the venue. Usually the bb happens if they come back to the hotel with me.
Monte Carlo. Weak. Only 3 girls on site. Average looking. To be fair, I did go on Saturday the Brazilian Valentine's day so I figured it would be weak.
4 x4. Really good. Anywhere from 25-40 girls there. Above average in looks. I took three girls from here. One was standard, the other two were great. Of the two one was a tall blond about 5'10" and slim. I told her she looked like a model and she told me she did work as a model but the pressures of modeling wasn't for her. The second was probably the cutest girls I have seen on this trip. She had black hair and about 5'2". What amazed me was not only did she worked at 4 x4, she was also on the Fatal model website. For those that don't know, it's basically an escort site. She worked everyday so I thought the session wouldn't be up to par but to my delight, she was a sweetheart.
65. Good. About 12-15 girls average to slightly above average. Had two sessions here. First was sub standard. There were red flags because in the boite instead of deep kissing she gave pecks. I told her I wouldn't take her up because of her lack of kissing. She promised it would be different in the room. Didn't happen but at least she did everything else okay. The second girl gave standard service.
Mv30. Closed. I went by there twice. Don't know if it's temporary or permanent.
502 Weak. Only three girls with average looks. I went on a Monday and they told me to come back on Thursday for more girls. I never made it back.
Solarium. Very good. About 14 girls slightly above average. This is the only place where I took a girl back to my hotel. I went on a Saturday and had such a good connection with this girl I asked if she wanted to have lunch on Sunday. We spent about 7 hours together that Sunday so yes, exceptional service.
Aeroporto. Closed. Doesn't look like it will open.
Annes msg. Good. About 8-10 girls in the lineup. The photos on their website looked better than the actual girls. To be fair they don't show the faces. The girl I choose gave the standard service and since it a little far, I didn't go back. I do like Tijuca though. Seems like a happening place.
Bel Prazer. Very good with lots of girls. Again the photos looked better than actual. The girl I took had baby damage but you couldn't tell by the photos. She gave a very good session.
EOB. Good. About 7 girls. The girl I took looked like a sexy chola chick. She was slim and very playful. I would rate her exceptional.
Rio Branco 156. I usually visit the prives here but as reported earlier, you need to sign in to get to the elevators. Seems strange to have turnstiles in front of the elevator bank. Since there were lines at both sides to sign in, I didn't go up.
Non full service.
Luna Therapia. Good. This place you have to call or whatapp them to schedule an appointment. They have a website with the photos and if the girl I had is any indication. The photos are up to date. I knew this place was not full service and I never had a nuru massage before so I went there. Not sure if it was real nuru gel but it did feel good. Her using her body all around me felt pretty good. She did allow kissing and DATY. She did offer a hand jack but I decided to save it for the night. Cost are $300.00 an hour. I had a good time there and I did feel relaxed after.
I know there were reports of not finding good places to eat, so here are some of the places I like to go to. I will not list the many by the kilo places I've been to or the executive lunch places that are dirt cheap.
Copacabana.
Apaia, really good seafood. I had the moqueca with fish and shrimp. Delicious and they do serve half portions.
Pavao Azul. Looks like a local hangout. I went just before opening and by the time I was leaving there was a line of people waiting for a table. I had the oxtail which came with rice, beans, potatoes and watercress. The oxtail is only served on certain days.
Centro.
Giuseppe. Great for pasta and steaks. Little pricy but worth it for me.
Malaga. Another hidden restaurant on the dark side. I wanted the roast pig but they didn't have it the day I went. I had the fish. Not sure what kind I just took the recommendation of the waiter.
Opus, the Brazilian version of the French dip sandwich. Cheap and filling.
Paladino. Another sandwich place. Sometimes I would buy a sandwich to go and leave it in the hotel fridge in the room. After a termas run, since most restaurants in centro are closed, Ill just have the sandwich for dinner. Again, cheap eats.
I do like eating the street food especially the meat skewers. Most of the places with the skewers charge are $7. 00.
Almost forgot, when my date from Solarium came over we ate at the Giuseppe in Leblon. Very modern and romantic place to eat. She loved it.
Porto Bay Hotel Copacabana. Pros. Location, clean, and according to the bell guy, guess friendly. Cons. Didn't see any.
Prodigy Hotel Santo Dumont. Pros. Location if you like exploring centro. Vlt can get you to the prives in about 2 minutes. About 5 minutes to the termas. Cons. There cleaning schedule. I usually go for a prive run so I leave around 10:00. After have lunch so I'm back at the hotel around 13:00. Find out the room hasn't been cleaned. I like to rest before I head out later to the termas but now I have to wait for the cleaning crew to come by. This hotel is not guess friendly. You can register one guess and that's pretty much it.
Hotel Novatel RJ Porto Atlantico, Pros. Newer modern hotel. Vlt stop right in front of hotel. Best shower I had in Rio. Cons. Location, it's on the other side of centro past Aqua Rio. There are no restaurants or markets close by. Swimming pool area was very small with no direct sunlight. With all that, this was my favorite hotel on this trip. I was on the 11th floor with a view of the bay which was so relaxing. My date also loved this hotel. Pretty isolated but I guess that means more privacy for you. I didn't ask if this hotel was guess friendly but when my date came over I met her in the lobby and headed straight to the elevators with no problem.
Who has taken a hooker to a swing club.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2572217]Who has taken a hooker to a swing club.[/QUOTE]Interesting question. I have not, but I do recall that a Scandallo tute in Sampa asked me out of the blue if I wanted to go with her to a swing party. I was staying in Moema where she said there were some good swing clubs. I remember that she went by "Josie". Anyway, I declined as she wasn't my type.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2572217]Who has taken a hooker to a swing club.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure Rio Bob has done this many times. But I could be wrong.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2572130]I've found formal tours of Rio to be very overpriced. They take advantage of the fact tourists staying at the beach either do not know local prices or highly value being guided around. The hotels are steering people to these tours.
Since many mongers will be jutting around around Rio anyway, you can make an "off-book" arrangement with an Uber driver. Make a list of sites and show it to him / her. It doesn't take too much Portuguese to work this out. Find an Uber driver that you like and say something like "cuanto por seis horas?" (or whatever hours you prefer) and show them a feasible list of locations. They'll figure out the sequence based on location and traffic.
Logistically, I don't remember the layout of Cristo Redentor or Sugarloaf, but they should be able to wait in the parking lot. There is a trust factor though. You might have to pay some drivers as you go. I paid my guy 40 USA Dollars and he didn't seem too worried about being paid at the end. We also had each other's phone numbers in case I couldn't find him at the drop zone. I did take him to lunch, but I like hanging with locals. I usually find a cool Uber driver my first day or two. It's actually not unusual for an Uber driver in Brazil to hand you a card. Same guy drove me to GIG airport.
If you really want an English-speaking guide, you might be able to find a local guy with a car who is reasonable on Tripadvisor. Obviously, this is all cheaper if you are with a bud or two.[/QUOTE]I've taken free walking tours all over the world and swear by them. Sure you'll have to tip them at the end ($10 or 10 Euros seem to satisfy everyone), but this is why they tend to work harder to please you. Every bit as good or better than "formal" tours, unless you need a car. In which case your local guy or gal tip is solid. I've hired local drivers in Balnearios, SD, Bali, etc.
Has anyone taken a girl from Rio to either these places? I like the idea of a "mini-relationship" beach tour, swimming, food and a girl who knows tastes, like wake up BJ and coffee in bed. If she does good, hard massage as well, life would be perfect! Naturally I will cruise Rios termas and clinicas like a fiend for the first few days. Barra seems to be a nicer Rio, and as one of esteemed colleagues mentions, there is the yellow house.
I must say: anyone punching the clock stateside for some old hag they wake up everyday and commute to work is a fool. Long live blue sky, good food, hot women, all holes open, DFK and a certain elan. We live only once. Imagine the indignity of some canned speech in a suburban Mc Funeral pretend chapel of how the fool followed the norms of sex prison USA and worked like a serf for employment at will with his passive partner, Uncle Sam, taking a huge chunk to piss away. That is madness.
Not long before I can go: 18 months since Thailand, man, the deprivation has been awful, the whole COVID greyness seeping through our souls whereas prior to 2020, luscious girls in Vienna, side stop in Thailand, and maybe soon I can go NYC to Rio, Rio across Atlantic to Europe (opening skiing and surfing arbitrage), then via Macau and back to USA. Or screw USA and invest in rich countries and live in cheap and enjoyable countries.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2572255]I'm pretty sure Rio Bob has done this many times. But I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]LOL yes been doing for years and recently.
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2572208]Pavao Azul. Looks like a local hangout. I went just before opening and by the time I was leaving there was a line of people waiting for a table. I had the oxtail which came with rice, beans, potatoes and watercress. The oxtail is only served on certain days. [/QUOTE]Well if it's anything like Jamaican / Caribbean Oxtail, I can't wait to try it. Thanks for the tip.
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2572208]Paladino. Another sandwich place. Sometimes I would buy a sandwich to go and leave it in the hotel fridge in the room. After a termas run, since most restaurants in centro are closed, Ill just have the sandwich for dinner. Again, cheap eats.
[b]I do like eating the street food especially the meat skewers.[/b] Most of the places with the skewers charge are $7. 00.[/QUOTE] Whoa R$7.00 now! I remember when my favorite street food, "meat on a stick" (especially skewered chicken w/beacon and/or sometimes with shrimp) was only are R$1.00 ...kkkk
Nice report.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2566528]Them's the facts bro! Could not have said it better myself. But you know there's always somebody who just has to "date" a tute, when really it should be all about the Five F's. Then when it doesn't work out, they're saddened. What could they have reasonably expected? Find them, feel them, finger them, fuck them. Then forget them![/QUOTE]Do what Mr E said but go to a doctor instead. Tell the doctor about your pain and that you have no money. Same with a lawyer, a plumber, or go into a restaurant. Go in and tell them you want something to eat but you don't have any money. See how much love you get?? They're all no different than the hooker selling her wares.
The Cheap Charlies will have you think hookers are the big problem because they charge for their time. They're no different from lawyers, bankers, plumbers and waitresses. There's the door if you can't pay.
The Threads of Distinction just got less distinct. Maybe if it continues management can change the name to: Threads of Distinction When Bottom Fishing.
Right before Covid hit hard I made my first trip to Thailand fell in love but with Covid I've given up going back for at least another year. And based on those trip reports I picked Rio de Janeiro as my next stop. I can't wait to go and I'm hoping some of you experts can give me a little advice. I emailed several hotels that say they don't allow you to bring girls back right now because of Covid so I'm looking at staying at an Airbnb instead every host I have emailed and said it's not a problem bringing a girl back but as security and apartments going to give me a hard time anyways? I understand having a girl overnight is not as common as it is in Thailand but I really enjoy that and going to give that a shot here. Also I was thinking of staying in Copacabana since it's the most centrally located it appears and plenty of Termas around there. Do you recommend that's a good place for a first time visitor or would I be better off staying in another spot. I saw that 4 x 4 and other places of interest are located in Cernto would that be a better place to stay? Also since I really am not going to know my way around at all at first is Uber the best way? I've heard it's relatively cheap for most rides? One last question by foot I'm walking around where I find other termas and prives. And what is the difference between the different places. Sorry for the newbie questions I'm still getting familiar with the different lingo. Thanks so much for any of you guys that can help me.
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2572214]Porto Bay Hotel Copacabana. Pros. Location, clean, and according to the bell guy, guess friendly. Cons. Didn't see any.
Prodigy Hotel Santo Dumont. Pros. Location if you like exploring centro. Vlt can get you to the prives in about 2 minutes. About 5 minutes to the termas. Cons. There cleaning schedule. I usually go for a prive run so I leave around 10:00. After have lunch so I'm back at the hotel around 13:00. Find out the room hasn't been cleaned. I like to rest before I head out later to the termas but now I have to wait for the cleaning crew to come by. This hotel is not guess friendly. You can register one guess and that's pretty much it.
Hotel Novatel RJ Porto Atlantico, Pros. Newer modern hotel. Vlt stop right in front of hotel. Best shower I had in Rio. Cons. Location, it's on the other side of centro past Aqua Rio. There are no restaurants or markets close by. Swimming pool area was very small with no direct sunlight. With all that, this was my favorite hotel on this trip. I was on the 11th floor with a view of the bay which was so relaxing. My date also loved this hotel. Pretty isolated but I guess that means more privacy for you. I didn't ask if this hotel was guess friendly but when my date came over I met her in the lobby and headed straight to the elevators with no problem.[/QUOTE]Hey QuackUp,
Thank you very much for your recent posts; they're exactly what a newbie like me is looking for.
I found this site a couple of weeks ago and have been pouring over it. Planning my first international mongering trip with a couple of buddies (hopefully in September of this year). I've never travelled internationally, but have local mongering experience. My buddies are the opposite (traveled a lot but little mongering exp).
I first planned on Cartagena, then Costa Rica, and now I think I've settled on Rio De Janeiro. Rio De Janeiro doesn't seem to have any political unrest or a major COVID problem, but I'm still not 100% this will be a good first trip. Any opinions on this are greatly appreciated.
I'm thinking we fly into SDU, possibly stay at Porto Bay in Copacabana, then hit mainly the 4 x4 and 65 for night spots initially. I like to see Christ the Redeemer and beaches during the day. Eat at Apaia and get some good steaks.
Just wanted to extend my thanks to all the reports. I couldn't imagine planning an international trip without this site!
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2572214]. . . Hotel Novatel RJ Porto Atlantico, Pros. Newer modern hotel. Vlt stop right in front of hotel. Best shower I had in Rio. Cons. Location, it's on the other side of centro past Aqua Rio. There are no restaurants or markets close by. Swimming pool area was very small with no direct sunlight. With all that, this was my favorite hotel on this trip. . .[/QUOTE]You weren't kidding when you said' [i]you like to do your own thing,[/i] as Hotel Novatel RJ Porto Atlantico, isn't exactly Centro per se.
I do remember this hotel (and think I checked it out once, out of curiosity) on my long walks / strolls back and forth, to and from Praca Maua, while staying with friends at a Santo Cristo condo complex at the bottom of favela Providencia.
It seems like a nice enough hotel, but not exactly a "centro" hotel, I would consider recommending to newbies necessarily, just because of its slightly "out-of-central" location. Although, as you've mentioned, taking the VLT does make it easier to get to.
This old sea docking area is part of the gentrification that has taken place over the last several years and is nice enough and fairly quiet area, if albeit somewhat sparse and numbered with lots of empty seaport warehouses. Utopia Aquario (aquarium), is a nice touch to the area and for tourists so I hear, as oddly enough, I still haven't been inside.
Kudos to you for sharing your stay in this area. Please add more, if there are some other honorable and notably places worthy of attention.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2572193]What kind of plan did you get? Mine is like 80 USD for a month and it seems to be very comprehensive, though fortunately I have not had to use it as well. I even got the COVID coverage which, as a young man, seemed wholly unnecessary.[/QUOTE]Got Allianz for $56 that ticked all the boxes included Covid, other than trip cancellation. When I had to cancel my Rio trip, they refunded immediately, no questions asked.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2572287]Has anyone taken a girl from Rio to either these places? I like the idea of a "mini-relationship" beach tour, swimming, food and a girl who knows tastes, like wake up BJ and coffee in bed.[/QUOTE]If I did have to choose BTW Cabo Frio and Buzios, I'd go to Buzios. More expensive but more fun, IMHO. As to a mere idea of taking your girl to Buzios, search for "Buzios," and you'll see this topic was recently discussed.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2572340]I emailed several hotels that say they don't allow you to bring girls back right now because of Covid so I'm looking at staying at an Airbnb instead every host I have emailed and said it's not a problem bringing a girl back but as security and apartments going to give me a hard time anyways?
Also I was thinking of staying in Copacabana since it's the most centrally located it appears and plenty of Termas around there. Do you recommend that's a good place for a first time visitor or would I be better off staying in another spot. [/QUOTE]1. For your first time, stay in Copa.
2. Below on this very page, another member mentions Portobay, which is located in Copa and guest-friendly. I had researched that hotel before and believe it is guest-friendly, too.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2572340]Also since I really am not going to know my way around at all at first is Uber the best way? I've heard it's relatively cheap for most rides?
One last question by foot I'm walking around where I find other termas and prives. And what is the difference between the different places. Sorry for the newbie questions I'm still getting familiar with the different lingo. Thanks so much for any of you guys that can help me.[/QUOTE]1. Uber is fine and cheap.
2. Most prives and arguably the best termas 4 x4 are in Centro, but getting between Copa and Centro is very easy by metro, bus, or Uber.
3. You seriously need to read A LOT to find the best termas and prives, then ask questions here or PM. Everything you want to know has been reported in Rio forums time and again.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2572389]3. You seriously need to read A LOT to find the best termas and prives, then ask questions here or PM. Everything you want to know has been reported in Rio forums time and again.[/QUOTE]God bless you. You're a lot more patient / tolerant than most. LOL. Including me.
Hi gents,
My second Brazil visit almost there, booked accommodation for all July but tickets not yet as still have things to sort out at home.
Was wondering how is situation in Rio with restrictions.
Last time almost everything worked more less normal, apart from nightclubs.
Luckily Rio is anal then SP regarding Covid drama.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2572340]Also I was thinking of staying in Copacabana since it's the most centrally located it appears and plenty of Termas around there. Do you recommend that's a good place for a first time visitor or would I be better off staying in another spot. I saw that 4 x 4 and other places of interest are located in Cernto would that be a better place to stay?[/QUOTE]On the Brazil cover page, click on "Rio de Janeiro. Hotels & Lodging". It's all discussed in great detail. Besides this Rio thread "Link to Reports of Distinction" is also a good place to check out.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2572217]Who has taken a hooker to a swing club.[/QUOTE]One of my recent posts of taking a tute to a swing club:
[QUOTE=RioBob;2562016]On Saturday early evening I tried to get a girl from barra vip to come over, 2 flaked out on me kept texting back they were going to be late so I canceled. I was getting hungry so I walked over to MAbs to get something to eat and I was texting another barra girl to come over but they all act like they don't need the money, business must be good for these girls and also some are young and beautiful.
So while I was sitting in Mabs planning my next move a woman comes over to me that I met in an Internet cafe many years ago to say Hello,. She said I'm sitting over there with a friend I think you'll like her. I went over and sat with them, not really my type but she seemed fun so I stayed a while. She asked me what my plans were for the night, I had none really but a girl I met last night told me of a new swing club in Barra called Achar. The girl said to me it's a good place and she loves it. I said yeah you want to go? She said yes but I said I didn't want to travel so far let's go to 2 A2 instead. So we went to my place and changed, she put on a dress and I put on pick pocket proof pants.
I didn't really expect much from 2 A2 considering these times, I thought maybe I'll just bang my girl and watch others. But my girl was perfect for this place, her personality plus big bunda and breasts many guys were reaching over to touch her and as soon as they do that gives me permission to touch theirs. I had my fingers in many hot wet bucettas, ate some delicious ones too plus we switched with 3 couples, it was a really good night.
On the way back I'm staying near Dolce Vita and I learned in 2 A2 that my girl likes bucetta too, many girls in the club were after her too. So I said let's go into dolce vita and get a girl for us, she said yes and she'll pick her out. We found this lovely 21 year old with small breasts and big luscious nipples. We all jumped into the bed together and I had both to myself. Good thing those Barra girls flaked on me otherwise I would have missed this great night.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes.
I was thinking of club mix bar.
[QUOTE=RioBob;2572494]One of my recent posts of taking a tute to a swing club:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2572389]Got Allianz for $56 that ticked all the boxes included Covid, other than trip cancellation. When I had to cancel my Rio trip, they refunded immediately, no questions asked.
If I did have to choose BTW Cabo Frio and Buzios, I'd go to Buzios. More expensive but more fun, IMHO. As to a mere idea of taking your girl to Buzios, search for "Buzios," and you'll see this topic was recently discussed.
1. For your first time, stay in Copa.
2. Below on this very page, another member mentions Portobay, which is located in Copa and guest-friendly. I had researched that hotel before and believe it is guest-friendly, too.
1. Uber is fine and cheap.
2. Most prives and arguably the best termas 4 x4 are in Centro, but getting between Copa and Centro is very easy by metro, bus, or Uber.
3. You seriously need to read A LOT to find the best termas and prives, then ask questions here or PM. Everything you want to know has been reported in Rio forums time and again.[/QUOTE]Thanks for answering some of my questions. I'm going to take your advice and stay in Copa and Uber around. I think I'm going to book an Airbnb it seems like there are some super nice condos for under $!00 usd. I do plan on spending lots of time reading this form over the next four months. It is a wealth on information. I'm trying to prepare myself as much as possible. In Pattaya I dove right into the deep end and I'm sure I will do the same In Brazil.
Last night I went to 65 and 4 x4 again with MiamiBoy. Unlike the previous night, 4 x4 actually had better quality. It was quite packed even through midnight. At some point there were even more guys than girls. Girls started to leave around 10 or 11, despite the high volume of customers present.
Unfortunately, I feel victim to the age old adage of "you snooze, you lose. " At the end of the night I was left with incredibly slim pickings and violated my rule of no average women. However, this average woman provided exemplary service in the form of BBBJ, anal, and even some tongue action where the sun don't shine. No, I did not kiss her before or after this unexpected event.
As I was taking her up to the room, MiamiBoy gave me the well deserved look of disappointment. Believe me man, I am even more disappointed with myself.
Here is to another day and hopefully better options.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2572236]Interesting question. I have not, but I do recall that a Scandallo tute in Sampa asked me out of the blue if I wanted to go with her to a swing party. I was staying in Moema where she said there were some good swing clubs. I remember that she went by "Josie". Anyway, I declined as she wasn't my type.[/QUOTE]Brazilian girls seem to like them. Many girls have asked me if I want to go, but I never went. There are at least two in Moema, probably many more.
[URL]http://www.innerclub.com.br/[/URL] and [URL]https://www.hotbar.com.br/[/URL].
I just came back a couple of weeks ago from my first trip to Rio so I can give you some advice based on my experience. I stayed at the Marriott and had no complaints. You only get 1 guest but that's all I needed. Only had 1 chick spend a night and that's because we were both wasted LOL but it was cool. Staying in Copacabana is the way to go for a newbie. Highly recommend Ubers over taxis. There cheaper for 2 and they were safer. Seems any issues me and my brother's had came after a taxi ride so just take Ubers. It's safe to walk but keep your wits and don't let anybody get close to you. My brother phone was stolen by some tranny's who he told to leave him alone but kept trying to grab his penis and ultimately grabbed his phone. Termas 4 x4 was my favorite and I went there every single day LOL. They closed on weekends but Monday through Friday that's the spot. It's a ton of termas and prives so don't be scared to just Google them and go exploring. Termas is like a bar club sauna brothel. Prives are like extras massage joints. I prefer termas cause I'm a party guy. Also hit mabs at night which is a bar where the working girls hang. I found some good quality gems at mabs. 1 was a dime piece who took me around the favelas and I had an amazing time with. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask me.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2572340]Right before Covid hit hard I made my first trip to Thailand fell in love but with Covid I've given up going back for at least another year. And based on those trip reports I picked Rio de Janeiro as my next stop. I can't wait to go and I'm hoping some of you experts can give me a little advice. I emailed several hotels that say they don't allow you to bring girls back right now because of Covid so I'm looking at staying at an Airbnb instead every host I have emailed and said it's not a problem bringing a girl back but as security and apartments going to give me a hard time anyways? I understand having a girl overnight is not as common as it is in Thailand but I really enjoy that and going to give that a shot here. Also I was thinking of staying in Copacabana since it's the most centrally located it appears and plenty of Termas around there. Do you recommend that's a good place for a first time visitor or would I be better off staying in another spot. I saw that 4 x 4 and other places of interest are located in Cernto would that be a better place to stay? Also since I really am not going to know my way around at all at first is Uber the best way? I've heard it's relatively cheap for most rides? One last question by foot I'm walking around where I find other termas and prives. And what is the difference between the different places. Sorry for the newbie questions I'm still getting familiar with the different lingo. Thanks so much for any of you guys that can help me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CkNice11;2572770]I just came back a couple of weeks ago from my first trip to Rio so I can give you some advice based on my experience. I stayed at the Marriott and had no complaints. You only get 1 guest but that's all I needed. Only had 1 chick spend a night and that's because we were both wasted LOL but it was cool. Staying in Copacabana is the way to go for a newbie. Highly recommend Ubers over taxis. There cheaper for 2 and they were safer. Seems any issues me and my brother's had came after a taxi ride so just take Ubers. It's safe to walk but keep your wits and don't let anybody get close to you. My brother phone was stolen by some tranny's who he told to leave him alone but kept trying to grab his penis and ultimately grabbed his phone. Termas 4 x4 was my favorite and I went there every single day LOL. They closed on weekends but Monday through Friday that's the spot. It's a ton of termas and prives so don't be scared to just Google them and go exploring. Termas is like a bar club sauna brothel. Prives are like extras massage joints. I prefer termas cause I'm a party guy. Also hit mabs at night which is a bar where the working girls hang. I found some good quality gems at mabs. 1 was a dime piece who took me around the favelas and I had an amazing time with. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask me.[/QUOTE]How much was it to session at 4 x4? I went, but didn't session.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2572543]Last night I went to 65 and 4 x4 again with MiamiBoy. Unlike the previous night, 4 x4 actually had better quality. It was quite packed even through midnight. At some point there were even more guys than girls. Girls started to leave around 10 or 11, despite the high volume of customers present.
Unfortunately, I feel victim to the age old adage of "you snooze, you lose. " At the end of the night I was left with incredibly slim pickings and violated my rule of no average women. However, this average woman provided exemplary service in the form of BBBJ, anal, and even some tongue action where the sun don't shine. No, I did not kiss her before or after this unexpected event.
As I was taking her up to the room, MiamiBoy gave me the well deserved look of disappointment. Believe me man, I am even more disappointed with myself.
Here is to another day and hopefully better options.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I miss Brazil already. I really want to spend more time in Rio next time. I think I could've really enjoyed 4 x4. Prives were amazing, too. I thought I was sexed out. But it only took 4 days to get my craving back.
[QUOTE=CkNice11;2572770]I just came back a couple of weeks ago from my first trip to Rio so I can give you some advice based on my experience. I stayed at the Marriott and had no complaints. You only get 1 guest but that's all I needed. Only had 1 chick spend a night and that's because we were both wasted LOL but it was cool. Staying in Copacabana is the way to go for a newbie. Highly recommend Ubers over taxis. There cheaper for 2 and they were safer. Seems any issues me and my brother's had came after a taxi ride so just take Ubers. It's safe to walk but keep your wits and don't let anybody get close to you. My brother phone was stolen by some tranny's who he told to leave him alone but kept trying to grab his penis and ultimately grabbed his phone. Termas 4 x4 was my favorite and I went there every single day LOL. They closed on weekends but Monday through Friday that's the spot. It's a ton of termas and prives so don't be scared to just Google them and go exploring. Termas is like a bar club sauna brothel. Prives are like extras massage joints. I prefer termas cause I'm a party guy. Also hit mabs at night which is a bar where the working girls hang. I found some good quality gems at mabs. 1 was a dime piece who took me around the favelas and I had an amazing time with. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask me.[/QUOTE]Best concise common sense advice for a first timer we have had in awhile.
To summarize:
Stay in Copacabana at a hotel, visit termas and private apartments during the week and Mabs on the weekend.
The Cane has also given excellent advice. Don't go cheap. You are only going to be in Rio a short time, live it up. If you cannot afford to at a 5:1 exchange rate, maybe you should just stay home. Guys who are in Brazil for months at a time, rightly need to consider their daily spend. That is not you. When I am there I buy my staples and canned goods at one supermarket and meats and fresh vegetables either at the farmer market or an upscale supermarket. Again, that is not you. Your time is way more important than the few dollars you might save. As for tipping, recognize people who have treated you right. Give a high five to the others with their hands out. I have been known to bring gifts to street vendors I have gotten to know and hand out money to those who clean up the beach. I support the artists and am patient and helpful to the disabled and elderly.
After you have picked through the low-hanging fruit, check out Zebra's reports. Put together a plan, take a day and have at it. Don't forget to take in some of the sites. For these you probably want to consult traditional tourist resources. If you want to visit a slum (favela) go to any major US city, don't waste your time gawking at poor people in Brazil living their lives. Enjoy your time, take good memories with you and leave good feelings towards you behind.
Location 4 x4.
It is halfway between bolsa valores / Praca XV barcas to Niteroi and Rio Branco where the investment firms are.
The target customer is the investor class, who take the late boat back to Niteroi. Not just the main port in Niteroi, but the minor ports like Inga, etc, where they have their armored, walled compounds within walking distance. Vagabundo knows these patrol routes. If you can manage it, one would prefer a twice daily boat ride, like the boss class in any port city, be I Copenhagen, Hamburg, Amsterdam, Sydney, san Francisco, san Diego, New York, Boston, Porto Allegre, Florianopolis, Salvador. Vikings always prefer boats as a venue to ride between making killings.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2572184]Great report and great news to hear that 4 x 4 and 65 are getting back in form.
From my experience of many nights at 4 x 4, it is hot between 5 and 10 pm with the peak time in the middle. This synchronizes with the schedules of the local businessmen. It's easy to tell the wife or girlfriend that you are going out for drinks with co-workers. Boys will be boys and Brasileiros will be Brasileiros! LOL.[/QUOTE]
I had Monique over for pernoite.
We did 2 pernoites for 300 each. Tuesday, 1 load. Wednesday, 5 loads. Thursday, 4 loads.
250 for food at beach each day.
Swimming in the Atlantic, priceless.
Thursday, she picked out a dupla partner, even agreed to pay half of the 200 for the other girl out of her money.
Thursday night, went and saw a morena with one of the best asses in Rio, for an hour at her local in Gloria. 250 at her place.
I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.
An uneventful ride leaves me deposited outside a shabby club, door cracked open and dimly lit red stairs. I decide to skip the club and drift across the street to the infamous are. Sotero dos Reis. I am drawn forth by some kind of magnetic pull, my mouth dry and pulse raised. The Zebra, adept at camouflage, is often mistaken for a native Brazilian, or sometimes even an Italian or Russian, so I am confident in my abilities to blend in and remain unobtrusive as long as I am not required to speak. A wingman could not be procured for this sortie, and so I must take extra precaution and remain vigilant. Nevertheless, my heart is beating fast as the street pulls me forward. I am like Willard silently floating towards Kurtz deep in the dark heart of the Cambodian jungle, I am entering a Heart of Darkness.
Improvised bars and eating stalls adorn both sides of the street, although "street" is a generous term as often times it becomes a ditch and one must scramble across fetid pools of dark and bacterial liquid of unknown origin and walk instead on the broken and jagged sidewalk. The increasingly foul odor alerts me that any skin contact with said liquid should be avoided with extreme prejudice. It is now that I begin to see the casas and girls hanging out in front of various bars and establishments. They are surprisingly quiet and subdued, casting only a leery gaze in my direction, and not the catcalsl and vulgarities that one would expect. In the first part of the street the mood is somnambulate, a blue narcotic light reflects off the street "water", and it's only as one walks further down that the music becomes audible and we arrive at the center of the Vila.
Crowds of rambunctious working class Brazilian men are drinking beer from tiny glasses and playing pool as half-naked garotas cling to their sides and talk amongst themselves. Now I can hear the music blasting from every corner, and each bar plays it's own tune, speakers distorted running at full volume- the music combining in one cacophonous sea of noise that continues to jar my nerves. I loiter around a but and decide to duck down the first alley way and penetrate further.
Like the axial procession at the temple of Karnak, the passage way is covered, and moves upwards in elevation the further one travels. To the Egyptians, this symbolized a return to the moment of creation, and a reunion with the creator God Amun, who stood on a mound of earth as the primordial waters receded. What I notice most is the pungent odor of vomit, which is pervasive and unrelenting. I gag a bit and try to acclimate. Making my way down the passage, to either side there are small rooms filled with naked and half naked women of all varieties. Sometimes there is a bar, sometimes there is a pool table, sometimes there is nothing but emptiness and a sullen girl staring out with dark and sad eyes. Sometimes the noise and smell overwhelm me to the point of disorientation. Most of the women are average or below average- poor women from the favelas trying to earn a meager wage. Surprisingly here and there a young lithe urchin can be visible, fresh and nubile, like a beautiful pearl in the vulgar, vaginal meat of a rotting oyster carcass. To the extent I would even be tempted, the sensory overload and fear of blowing my cover by speaking terrible Portuguese overwhelm, and its decided rather quickly that this will be an observation only mission.
The passage ends, but turns right and then another alley way, with similar characteristics, leads the descent back dwon towards Sotero doe Reis. I slow my walk a bit, lingering to take it all in, holding glances with some of the creatures that crawl forth to meet my gaze. It is simultaneously awful and sublime- the filth, the cacophony, the squalid poverty, the rare beauty. I imagine the gyrating and fucking that is going on behind these doors, a kind of rhythm or beat that never stops. It is the rhythm of creation, the screams and cries of pleasure echo the sounds of infants being born-the sound of life coming into existence.
Emerging back on into the street I feel as if I am reborn. My pulse slows and I begin to relax. I explore a bit further down, there are two other alleyways but they are not as enticing as this first axis, and so I stroll leisurely back up the street, still undiscovered and unnoticed by the locals. If on some rare lark one were to session here, your Portuguese would need to be on point, as there is no margin for error. Personally I would not feel comfortable enough to relax and enjoy myself. As I saunter slowly back to Mosaico to catch another uber I feel like I have seen enough to understand there is indeed a limit to my own fetish for the danger and excitement provided by sketchy surroundings. For me, Terma 502 is about as low as I want to go, although I'm not ruling out 116 entirely.
I head to Terma 31 to recon the dark side some more. My uber driver comes mere inches from running over a female pedestrian who gave no f**cks, and I am thrown violently forward as he brakes to avoid colliding with her. I exit the car in front of MV30, which I decline to investigate, and turn the corner to 31. Up the stairs and around the corner is a small room lit with smoke, green lasers, and stroboscopic light. There is a pool table, a stripper pole, one tired Garota, and two men- all of whom look at me curiously as if I am lost. I turn around and leave.
Minutes later I am safe in the warm bosom of Whiskeria 65 and after relaxing with a beer, chose "Sol" a young lady with pink hair and glasses that I had sessioned the week prior. I am rock hard as I pump her head and finally ejaculate all over her pretty smile and eyes. She looks like Mia Khalifa with small tits and a larger nose. All the stress that had built from my walk earlier is released in one fantastic orgasmic moment and I fall exhausted to the bed, embracing and kissing Sol for the remaining time.
The uber ride back to meet Miami at Mabs is near fatal as a young inexperienced driver keeps getting lost and looking at his phone. He missed the pickup a couple times- I will remember to cancel tardy drivers with more prejudice in the future- some of these guys are mere children and you are not safe with them.
Back at Mabs, we meet a beautiful loira "Barbara" who shows us her website- several pornographic videos of her with clients intrigue. She's asking too much, 500 for uncovered BJ, only cum on tits, and so no one takes her up. I run in to one of my former girlfriends who I though had traveled back to her home city but was either lying or still has yet to go. She's angry with me because I had told her I was going to Colombia and couldn't meet her one last time. She sends me some angry messages later, tries to get me jealous by asking for my friends number and if she could meet with him. Sure, whatever.
I will be leaving the country mid-next week for Colombia if all goes according to plan. I've enjoyed my stay here immensely, but the thirst for new hunting grounds is real. I'm sure I will post a wrap up report soon, but this will do for now.
Zebra Out.
This board is a great resource and while I may not be able to contribute any reports until later. I do want to contribute *something* so I don't get roasted for asking questions with no prior contribution.
So this has helped me save literally hundreds if not over a thousand dollars in the past few years.
Many of you may be familiar with BrazilCupid, DominicanCupid, ColombianCupid, FilipinoCupid, etc.
I've had great success over the years using the Cupid sites (for both freebies and pros) but often the cost is prohibitive. Why pay $150 USD when that can pay for 2-3 girls, right?
Well here is my method. Use a VPN and route your sign-up through Argentina. Steps and costs detailed below.
1. Open your VPN. Select Buenos Aires or another city in Argentina if possible.
2. Open an Incognito window in Chrome so your location data registers as in Argentina.
3. Go to the Cupid site you want to sign-up for. It must be a new account as they store prior location data.
4. Create an account and go to update. You will see two options: Gold and Platinum. Gold is 3000 ARS / year and Platinum is 4000 ARS / year. Select the one you want and begin messaging!
Benefits:
1. Subscription renews at to the 3000 or 4000 ARS price each year. This is $30 USD for Gold and $40 USD for Platinum and by next year, the ARS prices will probably be around $15 and $20 with Argentina's currency devaluation.
2. Definitely can get freebies if you put in limited effort 1 or 2 weeks before your trip. I can't say that definitively for *every* cupid country but it has worked in every one I have tried.
3. The current price for these sites is $150 USD each year if you register from the US. And it would renew at $150. That is insane if you travel to different countries and want to maintain multiple Cupid accounts.
If you don't have or know what a VPN is, there are hundreds of Youtube videos that can help. You can get a one-month VPN subscription for $5 (much cheaper if you buy longer subscriptions), sign up for all the Cupid countries you might ever want to visit and then cancel the VPN (if you don't have use for it). I would still recommend using a VPN in general.
Even if you continue logging in from the US after the initial sign-up, it will renew your contract at the ARS price.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2572796]How much was it to session at 4 x4? I went, but didn't session.[/QUOTE]I think it is 270 R for 30 minutes and 390 R for an hour for the simple cabins. The prices for the bigger suites are higher.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2572799]Best concise common sense advice for a first timer we have had in awhile.
To summarize:
Stay in Copacabana at a hotel, visit termas and private apartments during the week and Mabs on the weekend.
The Cane has also given excellent advice. Don't go cheap. You are only going to be in Rio a short time, live it up. If you cannot afford to at a 5:1 exchange rate, maybe you should just stay home. Guys who are in Brazil for months at a time, rightly need to consider their daily spend. That is not you. When I am there I buy my staples and canned goods at one supermarket and meats and fresh vegetables either at the farmer market or an upscale supermarket. Again, that is not you. Your time is way more important than the few dollars you might save. As for tipping, recognize people who have treated you right. Give a high five to the others with their hands out. I have been known to bring gifts to street vendors I have gotten to know and hand out money to those who clean up the beach. I support the artists and am patient and helpful to the disabled and elderly.
After you have picked through the low-hanging fruit, check out Zebra's reports. Put together a plan, take a day and have at it. Don't forget to take in some of the sites. For these you probably want to consult traditional tourist resources. If you want to visit a slum (favela) go to any major US city, don't waste your time gawking at poor people in Brazil living their lives. Enjoy your time, take good memories with you and leave good feelings towards you behind.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, except even a newbie can do well with an Airbnb, especially those on a more limited budget. The short-term rental market is developed exceptionally well in Rio, so I wouldn't hesitate. But that's a matter of preferences of course.
As to visiting favelas, I too can't understand the appeal. Seriously, these are the places were poor people live. If I were living in Rio or staying for a few months, even then I can't see myself getting bored to the point of "touring" a slum. Some folks claim they want to "immerse" in the experience, but going on a tour when you're protected by organizers or their contracts with local bandits doesn't immerse you in anything. I guess, those curious souls should actually stay at one of the safer favelas to scratch that itch.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2572830]Location 4 x4.
It is halfway between bolsa valores / Praca XV barcas to Niteroi and Rio Branco where the investment firms are.
The target customer is the investor class, who take the late boat back to Niteroi. Not just the main port in Niteroi, but the minor ports like Inga, etc, where they have their armored, walled compounds within walking distance. Vagabundo knows these patrol routes. If you can manage it, one would prefer a twice daily boat ride, like the boss class in any port city, be I Copenhagen, Hamburg, Amsterdam, Sydney, san Francisco, san Diego, New York, Boston, Porto Allegre, Florianopolis, Salvador. Vikings always prefer boats as a venue to ride between making killings.[/QUOTE]Taking a ferry to Niteroi is quick and pleasant. Not even mentioning the Flying Saucer Niemeyer Museum and cheap Niteroi prives.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2573024]Seriously, these are the places were poor people live.[/QUOTE]In general yes, but also middle-class and even rich people with mansions. I'm not speaking about rich narcos, but doctors, lawyers etc. Usually living in mansions built when the favelas were newborn.
Any word on when nightlife will reopen in Brazil? What is now the trendiest nightclub to party and see local girls (not "prostitutes" I'd like to take my friend to a good nightclub of some kind.
[QUOTE=Indecentpro;2572931]
I've had great success over the years using the Cupid sites (for both freebies and pros) but often the cost is prohibitive. Why pay $150 USD when that can pay for 2-3 girls, right?
Well here is my method. [/QUOTE]Great info. Thanks!
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2572925]I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.
An uneventful ride leaves me deposited outside a shabby club, door cracked open and dimly lit red stairs. I decide to skip the club and drift across the street to the infamous are. Sotero dos Reis. I am drawn forth by some kind of magnetic pull, my mouth dry and pulse raised. The Zebra, adept at camouflage, is often mistaken for a native Brazilian, or sometimes even an Italian or Russian, so I am confident in my abilities to blend in and remain unobtrusive as long as I am not required to speak. A wingman could not be procured for this sortie, and so I must take extra precaution and remain vigilant. Nevertheless, my heart is beating fast as the street pulls me forward. I am like Willard silently floating towards Kurtz deep in the dark heart of the Cambodian jungle, I am entering a Heart of Darkness.
[/QUOTE]So now that you've experienced the VM's sensory perversions kkkk, put it in the been-there-done-that column and move on. Mosaico, on the other hand, is a cool place. I had a very nice session with a lovely morena there once, who later visited me in my Airbnb a few days later. Don't remember the price, which tells me it wasn't outrageous. It's somewhat of an institution, too. I read on GParena they hired a porn star to strip and fuck everyone who were present at the moment.
Mosaico had a really big party on wed evening, the place was loaded with people. Unfrtunately, there were so many people that the cabins were full all night and I didn't have time to grab my favorita!
Crazy thing that happened to me on the way to Mosaico. I took an UBER to VM, as soon as we made the right off the highway to enter VM, a police car with 2 officers were partially blocking the road. They stopped my uber, walked up and started shining lights into the car. One officer them motioned for me to get out of the car. (I had on a mask, so he couldn't see my entire face) . I guess he could read from my forehead wrinkle and eye brow raise that I was confused as to why he anted me to step out of the car. I hesitated about 3 seconds as I looked at him, his partnet and then my uber driver before I reached for the handle and stepped out.
I thought the uber would drive away but he stayed where he was. The cop who motioned for me to get out was pissed nd yelled at me "When I tell you to get out of the car, you get out!" Again, I think from my facial expression he could tell that I was confused as to why I had to get out of the car. He berated me for about 10 seconds about following his commands and then I pulled the Ace out of my back pocket. In a calm voice I said "I don't speak Portuguese". Having brown skin and being dressed down, he probably thought I was Brazilian.
When I spoke english, he had a surprised look on his face and motioned for me to get back in the uber. Once I closed the door he gave me 2 thumbs up and a big smile like " Hey, we are good right?" and then I gave him a thumbs up back. I will admit I was nervous when I stepped out of the car into that dark street, I wasnt sure if they were going to rob me or beat me up. I am 100% positive that I did the right thing by acting like I couldn't speak or understand Portuguese!
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2572925]Emerging back on into the street I feel as if I am reborn. My pulse slows and I begin to relax. I explore a bit further down, there are two other alleyways but they are not as enticing as this first axis, and so I stroll leisurely back up the street, still undiscovered and unnoticed by the locals. If on some rare lark one were to session here, your Portuguese would need to be on point, as there is no margin for error. Personally I would not feel comfortable enough to relax and enjoy myself. As I saunter slowly back to Mosaico to catch another uber I feel like I have seen enough to understand there is indeed a limit to my own fetish for the danger and excitement provided by sketchy surroundings. For me, Terma 502 is about as low as I want to go, although I'm not ruling out 116 entirely.[/QUOTE]Prose, prose! Pure prose! Great report! Lived that totally vicariously through you! Well-done! Bravo! Was as if I was there walking along that street myself! Wish you had gone into Mosaico to give me a full picture of that place as well. Looking forward to more from you!
[QUOTE=Bravo;2573067]Mosaico had a really big party on wed evening, the place was loaded with people. Unfrtunately, there were so many people that the cabins were full all night and I didn't have time to grab my favorita![/QUOTE]If the cabins at Mosaico are full it only takes less than 1 minute to go to Hotel Canario.
Good acting with the cops!
[QUOTE=Bravo;2573067] ... He berated me for about 10 seconds about following his commands and then I pulled the Ace out of my back pocket. In a calm voice I said "I don't speak Portuguese". Having brown skin and being dressed down, he probably thought I was Brazilian.
When I spoke english, he had a surprised look on his face and motioned for me to get back in the uber ...[/QUOTE]Don't know if this has been discussed already, but what's with the Police and the reason behind all the reports of stoppages, lately? Is it just Uber rides or Taxis as well?
[QUOTE=Bravo;2573067]....I wasnt sure if they were going to rob me or beat me up. I am 100% positive that I did the right thing by acting like I couldn't speak or understand Portuguese![/QUOTE] [b]Or just shoot you. [/b]
Did you get the impression they were trying to perhaps, supplement their poultry income, by fleecing motorists? (especially, now that all the drug dealers are dead...just kidding).
We are in the heart of darkness.
We have gone native.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2573057]So now that you've experienced the VM's sensory perversions kkkk, [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spidy;2573095]... supplement their poultry income ...[/QUOTE]That might be correct under some circumstances...kkkk, but I meant "paltry income".
[QUOTE=Indecentpro;2572931]1. Open your VPN. Select Buenos Aires or another city in Argentina if possible.
2. Open an Incognito window in Chrome so your location data registers as in Argentina.
3. Go to the Cupid site you want to sign-up for. It must be a new account as they store prior location data.
4. Create an account and go to update. You will see two options: Gold and Platinum. Gold is 3000 ARS / year [/QUOTE]Thanks you mf genius. I have been on the cupid sites 16 years and have never thought of doing that. You are a moneysaver dude. Thanks for telling me how to spend my money.
So the Cupid sites price discriminate just like the chicks do. Charge one price one place and another price another place, all for the same site. Maybe some people will think the USA or European signup is higher quality because it costs more.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2573067]He berated me for about 10 seconds about following his commands and then I pulled the Ace out of my back pocket. In a calm voice I said "I don't speak Portuguese". Having brown skin and being dressed down, he probably thought I was Brazilian.
When I spoke english, he had a surprised look on his face and motioned for me to get back in the uber. Once I closed the door he gave me 2 thumbs up and a big smile like " Hey, we are good right?" and then I gave him a thumbs up back. I am 100% positive that I did the right thing by acting like I couldn't speak or understand Portuguese![/QUOTE]That was textbook. You have to know when to turn it on and off. Just because you can speak and understand does not mean you go blabbing off. If you happen to be in some real trouble then the only word you know in the local language is for embassy.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2572925]I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! I wish I had a chance to visit VM with you. But don't feel like I missed too much. =). Hopefully, I get another chance next time. I'm glad you were able to bestow your load upon Mia Khalifa.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2572940]I think it is 270 R for 30 minutes and 390 R for an hour for the simple cabins. The prices for the bigger suites are higher.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I went to 4 x4, but didn't session there so forgot their pricing structure. I'll try next time I'm there, for sure.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2573129]Thanks you mf genius. I have been on the cupid sites 16 years and have never thought of doing that. You are a moneysaver dude. Thanks for telling me how to spend my money.
So the Cupid sites price discriminate just like the chicks do. Charge one price one place and another price another place, all for the same site. Maybe some people will think the USA or European signup is higher quality because it costs more.[/QUOTE]Yeah no worries. I just checked and it's 750 ARS (Gold) and 1000 ARS (Platinum) for one month. And still the 3000/4000 price per year.
In my opinion it's probably the best value you could get. SA is like 10 x the price. Probably not 10 x the value but to each their own.
SA doesn't work BTW with this method. They have global pricing which is consistent.
All you need for the countries I have used this is to pipeline for 1 month and afterwards you can let the account expire. Probably the best investment / payoff ratio you could ever hope for.
Cheers.
Gentlemen,
I write this not to stir controversy, but rather as another data point to add to this forum in which we all share our experiences. When we travel for this hobby, we all have different goals, expectations, budgets, and non-negotiables. For me, the goal is to sleep with as many top tier (by my standards) beautiful women I can in about 4-6 weeks. My expectation is that the Brazilian girls will live up to their famed reputation, and also that with quality research, I can find the experiences I'm looking for. My pre-conceived notions of a solid budget were poorly framed as I quickly realized that one if one has certain tastes, you will have to pay. Without delving into the socioeconomic and racial realities of Brazil, if you are looking for top shelf brancas, you're going to have to pay more and go to different places. Yes, you can find quality brancas in places like VM and darkside termas, but that takes effort, which brings me to my final point. Some things are non-negotiable for me. I have spent a significant part of my young life in suffering, albeit for a good cause, and thus I do not desire to "work" while I am on vacation. Quality and convenience are non-negotiable for me once I have done my due diligence research of visiting all the places that must be visited (hence why I went to VM and the darkside termas previously). I do not want to spend my days and nights looking for what I want. I want to show up to a place with the types of girls I am looking for and enjoy myself in a safe, comfortable setting. At the end of my trip I will write a sort of all inclusive newbies guide to Rio, with a focus on the aforementioned subjects, so that those with similar tastes as mine can plan their trips appropriately. This is not to attack or otherwise insult the wise gentlemen of this forum looking for a bargain deal, but rather to more easily lay out the options for the lazy monger, like myself.
It recently came to me why there may be some differences among us hobbyists when it comes to how we monger. We are primal creatures and thus largely enjoy overcoming a challenge. We seek the adventure. Back home, I am constantly putting in the work to get with non-pros. Hell, even here I've been putting in the work with non-pros. But when it comes to mongering, I am not trying to work. I want to sit back, relax, and enjoy. For the older, perhaps married monger, this hobby may in fact be a mechanism to accomplish the aforementioned objective. This monger seeks the adventure and finding the diamond in the rough because he is appealing to his primal nature that may not be as active in his other life. He seeks the best deal and always wants to come out on top. I could be wrong on this, but it is a thought I had recently. Again, this is not an insult to anyone, but rather my musings of an explanation to describe some differences in perspective among the members of this board. There is no right or wrong way to monger in this regard and I mention it to add perspective the next time someone decides to chastise another board member for doing something like "overpaying" or refusing to go to a sketchy part of town. On the same hand, it also serves as perspective to defend the monger who puts in the work for us all and goes above and beyond to find all the best deals and locations. I am grateful for the latter monger specifically because it is he who paves the way! He is the Lieutenant Rowan, if you will.
The night starts with MiamiBoy informing me he is on his way to 4 x4. Upon his arrival, he tells me that the quality is not that great but he will wait it out for a little bit. I use the opportunity to bite the bullet and head on over to MC, just to check the quality before perhaps going to Solarium or Centaurus. Once I get to MC, I quickly change into my robe and head upstairs to the bar to grab a beer. I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me as the quality was much better than anything I have seen thus far here in Brazil. I think my first trip to Solarium would be comparable, but alas it was weeks ago and my memory on the matter is not that reliable. There were perhaps 20 girls of which only 2-3 I would not have sessioned with. Keep in mind gentlemen, if you haven't been able to tell from my reports thus far I am very picky. In the paraphrased words of Bearsi, "I didn't fly 8 hours to bang average ass women that I can at home after a couple drinks and some game in a bar. " Like Bearsi, I came here to bang beautiful, top-shelf women.
I sit down in the bar area and relax for a bit, just admiring the sight in front of me. A few girls come up to talk that I would happily session with, but I send them away because I want to get a complete picture of my options. Of the 20 or so girls, most were the illustrious spinner type with perfectly shaped bodies and pretty faces. A few were of the fit, big booty persuasion. Most were brancas or slightly mixed. There was only one dark skinned girl from what I saw. After a while I decided on one of the fit girls with a big booty. I did my usual friendly check to make sure they were on board with what I want in the room and off we went.
At this point, gentlemen, I must confess I made a mistake. When the girl took my key I forgot to mention how much time and the type of room I wanted. A few minutes go by and I think to myself that I'm going to get screwed over by being charged for 1 hour in a suite when I only want 40 minutes in a basic room. Suddenly, a gentleman who I believe is the owner came out of nowhere and said something along the lines of, "hey man, the girl said you want an hour in a suite. Is that true?" I told him no, I want 40 minutes in a basic room. He said no problem and that he just wanted to confirm, then walked away. Kudos to the management on this one because even though I would have told the girl when she got back what I wanted, that could have been a potential hassle which was just avoided due to the diligence and integrity of the owner / manager.
Now, I think the session is going to be ruined since I basically just slashed this girl's perceived earnings a bit. But man was I wrong. We got to the room and she put on a show. It was a cross between GFE and PSE the whole time. The girl brought out all the tricks. DFK (not my thing but whatever), BBBJ, anal, and she wanted me to CIM but her ass was so perfect I wanted to finish there. Best ass I've had in Rio so far, hands down. After I finish the girl did not want me to leave the room. Only about 20-25 minutes had gone by but she told me to take a 5 minute break then to go again for 10-15 more minutes. I told her it wasn't going to happen but she insisted on trying to make it happen by giving me another BBBJ and being as sexy / flirtatious as possible. I try to clean up but she just kept trying to get me going again. I honestly admire the effort on her part as it shows dedication to the craft. Our time is up and we leave. I'm sure her intention was to get me going again and then want to buy more time, but nonetheless I am pleased with the performance she put on for the entire time. She didn't waste any time with any BS. For the entire time, she was dedicated to making sure I had a great experience.
Another thing that makes MC worth noting is its facilities. Before and / or after your session, you can head down to the floor that has large showers, a couple bathrooms, etc. In this room they also have toothbrushes, toothpaste, mouth wash, body wash, and even shaving cream and razors if you want to use them. It is really pretty decent overall and as someone who appreciates convenience, I am happy these facilities are present.
After I clean up a bit, I head back upstairs to tip my waiter. Why? Everywhere I go I like to build a good reputation with the establishment. This paid off once upon a time in Bogota, but that is a story for another time. I head down to the reception and prepare to face the bill. I am not anxious, but of course I expect some hassle of a gringo tax or whatever. Seeing the bill, I am floored. The numbers couldn't be right. I had the entrance fee, a few beers, a water, 40 minutes with a girl, and the standard room for about R550? Every time I've gone to 4 x4 I've basically paid the in the R400's range for the same thing. Sure, most of the time I've drank a little more but the marginal difference here was unbelievable. At this point I'm thinking there's no way MC is only slightly more expensive (I. E. 20 USD) than 4 x4. What did I miss the first time? Oh yea, I had a threesome in a suite for an hour last time I was here LOL. I examine the bill closely and it is indeed accurate, as each thing is itemized by the price. I pay, walk out the door, and give the doorman a small tip. I head back to my hotel to write this report.
What is the takeaway here?
Well, it is just another data point. I had a good experience at MC for only a fraction more than what I've been spending at 4 x4. This just goes to show that experiences vary. I am happy I went and it was money well spent.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2572940]I think it is 270 R for 30 minutes and 390 R for an hour for the simple cabins. The prices for the bigger suites are higher.[/QUOTE]I recommend paying for one of the larger cabines (versus the most basic one) just to get a little bit more space. It's well worth the price for more comfort to do "the nasty" in.
Who is Lieutenant Rowan?
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2573174]Gentlemen,
I write this not to stir controversy, but rather as another data point to add to this forum in which we all share our experiences. When we travel for this hobby, we all have different goals, expectations, budgets, and non-negotiables. For me, the goal is to sleep with as many top tier (by my standards) beautiful women I can in about 4-6 weeks. My expectation is that the Brazilian girls will live up to their famed reputation, and also that with quality research, I can find the experiences I'm looking for. My pre-conceived notions of a solid budget were poorly framed as I quickly realized that one if one has certain tastes, you will have to pay. Without delving into the socioeconomic and racial realities of Brazil, if you are looking for top shelf brancas, you're going to have to pay more and go to different places. Yes, you can find quality brancas in places like VM and darkside termas, but that takes effort, which brings me to my final point. Some things are non-negotiable for me. I have spent a significant part of my young life in suffering, albeit for a good cause, and thus I do not desire to "work" while I am on vacation. Quality and convenience are non-negotiable for me once I have done my due diligence research of visiting all the places that must be visited (hence why I went to VM and the darkside termas previously). I do not want to spend my days and nights looking for what I want. I want to show up to a place with the types of girls I am looking for and enjoy myself in a safe, comfortable setting. At the end of my trip I will write a sort of all inclusive newbies guide to Rio, with a focus on the aforementioned subjects, so that those with similar tastes as mine can plan their trips appropriately. This is not to attack or otherwise insult the wise gentlemen of this forum looking for a bargain deal, but rather to more easily lay out the options for the lazy monger, like myself.[/QUOTE]
Cool images of brazilian girls.
Beleza Pura.
[URL]http://www.forosx.com/internacional/general-agencias-escorts-independientes-fuera-de-espana-etc/14945-brasil-beleza-beleza-pura-171.html[/URL]
Ivan.
PM me for his deets.
As with all *****houses the first number you get is the manager / owner, the Humphrey Bogart.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2573174]Suddenly, a gentleman who I believe is the owner came out of nowhere and said something along the lines of, "hey man, the girl said you want an hour in a suite. Is that true?" I told him no, I want 40 minutes in a basic room. He said no problem and that he just wanted to confirm, then walked away. Kudos to the management on this one because even though I would have told the girl when she got back what I wanted, that could have been a potential hassle which was just avoided due to the diligence and integrity of the owner / manager.
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1. Remember Hotel Canario, on rua ceara. You find that pearl, you get her there. It is 150 m or less away.
2. Well written. A F Scott Fitzgerald, to the aspiring Hemingways and Twains among us. Bravo.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2572925]I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.
An uneventful ride leaves me deposited outside a shabby club, door cracked open and dimly lit red stairs. I decide to skip the club and drift across the street to the infamous are. Sotero dos Reis. I am drawn forth by some kind of magnetic pull, my mouth dry and pulse raised. The Zebra, adept at camouflage, is often mistaken for a native Brazilian, or sometimes even an Italian or Russian, so I am confident in my abilities to blend in and remain unobtrusive as long as I am not required to speak. A wingman could not be procured for this sortie, and so I must take extra precaution and remain vigilant. Nevertheless, my heart is beating fast as the street pulls me forward. I am like Willard silently floating towards Kurtz deep in the dark heart of the Cambodian jungle, I am entering a Heart of Darkness...[/QUOTE]
1. Remember Hotel Canario, on rua ceara. You find that pearl, you get her there. It is 150 m or less away.
2. Well written. A F Scott Fitzgerald, to the aspiring Hemingways and Twains among us. Bravo.
3. Oh, and, we need more reports on Mosaico, remember after midnight, and best after 2 PM.
It's not that one has to be a cheap charlie (Munger), but as the saying goes, real insiders study personnel; amateurs study sex; professionals study logistics.
If you go to Mosaico, you will find that the 500 per hour top end girls from the Tier 1 Termas from Zona Sul (anywhere South of Av Presidente Vargas) turn into 200 per hour girls in Mosaico, but they might not fuck you if they don't like you. This is a key point, as all the clientele in Mosaico are locals, and this is where the top tier local girls go to fuck local guys.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2572925]I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.
An uneventful ride leaves me deposited outside a shabby club, door cracked open and dimly lit red stairs. I decide to skip the club and drift across the street to the infamous are. Sotero dos Reis. I am drawn forth by some kind of magnetic pull, my mouth dry and pulse raised. The Zebra, adept at camouflage, is often mistaken for a native Brazilian, or sometimes even an Italian or Russian, so I am confident in my abilities to blend in and remain unobtrusive as long as I am not required to speak. A wingman could not be procured for this sortie, and so I must take extra precaution and remain vigilant. Nevertheless, my heart is beating fast as the street pulls me forward. I am like Willard silently floating towards Kurtz deep in the dark heart of the Cambodian jungle, I am entering a Heart of Darkness....[/QUOTE]
Great report TiaVoyage.
Next week I will try my luck chasing gems and good fun in Rio.
Was wondering how detail are Brazilians regarding Covid entry requirements.
I was in UK within 14 days and is written then you might subject to quarantine.
Also how detail they are about PCR test, are they checking it and who (airlines or border).
Cheers for any info.
So, the little tryst in Gloria to end the night on Thursday was ATM, BBFSCIP, which I have to say is good service, and every man should get it. I mean ass to mouth. A good hour of ass to mouth hardcore anal fucking will really check the box, as I think Exec Talent pointed out.
I may post some pics of her tight little morena clara bundinha, which I've been plugging on and off for the better part of 7 years. She's a working girl, a happy hooker, a sperm milking nurse de facto proctologist whose tongue has been up my ass, with her pretty little carioca face. We have been fucking from Motel Megara in Zona Norte to Motel VIPS, Motel Malaga, and everywhere in between.
As it was on Thursday, I was on like my 5th or 6th load of the day. I had drilled Monique for 4 loads starting in the morning with the pernoite, and then after the beach day. On the beach, the waitress used the baby oil to oil monique's ass, her best feature, which attracted alot of attention from the male passers by.
I have been chatting with the remnants of team ISG Fuck you, who are preparing to head to other cities and countries. My recommendation as to tier 1 termas to check out is this.
I am open. You should do Paris café and Pérola Negra. The best branca by Far in Rio is a real Portuguese girl at Paris. Come after 10. Paris Cafe cover is 30, and same for Perola Negra. Barra is the Miami of Rio and maybe Brazil.
It has been a pleasure to monger with the latest crew -- TIA, Zebra, Miami, my wingmen in 4 x4 on a successful intel gathering raid -- with Gato1 and Mexidan standing by as the Quick Reaction Force. Obviously, some of us speak the same language of Hemingwayesque allusion to military terminology. But at the end of the day, we are libertines, or that is to say, Frenchmen, oh, to be a Frenchman in Rio de Janeiro, it doesn't get much better than that.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2572900]I had Monique over for pernoite.
We did 2 pernoites for 300 each. Tuesday, 1 load. Wednesday, 5 loads. Thursday, 4 loads.
250 for food at beach each day.
Swimming in the Atlantic, priceless.
Thursday, she picked out a dupla partner, even agreed to pay half of the 200 for the other girl out of her money.
Thursday night, went and saw a morena with one of the best asses in Rio, for an hour at her local in Gloria. 250 at her place.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spidy;2573095]Don't know if this has been discussed already, but what's with the Police and the reason behind all the reports of stoppages, lately? Is it just Uber rides or Taxis as well?
[b]Or just shoot you. [/b]
Did you get the impression they were trying to perhaps, supplement their poultry income, by fleecing motorists? (especially, now that all the drug dealers are dead...just kidding).[/QUOTE]This is pretty normal behavior for the police. Through the years especially if my taxi was full of passengers I have been pulled over a few times. I have learned the lesson not to speak to them in Portueguse because once I did they immediately told me to get out of the car and went through all my belongings and pockets looking for drugs being surrounded by 4 cops carrying machine guns. This has happened a few times and the girls told me it was normal.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2572925]....Like the axial procession at the temple of Karnak, the passage way is covered, and moves upwards in elevation the further one travels. To the Egyptians, this symbolized a return to the moment of creation, and a reunion with the creator God Amun, who stood on a mound of earth as the primordial waters receded. What I notice most is the pungent odor of vomit, which is pervasive and unrelenting. I gag a bit and try to acclimate. Making my way down the passage, to either side there are small rooms filled with naked and half naked women of all varieties. Sometimes there is a bar, sometimes there is a pool table, sometimes there is nothing but emptiness and a sullen girl staring out with dark and sad eyes. Sometimes the noise and smell overwhelm me to the point of disorientation. Most of the women are average or below average- poor women from the favelas trying to earn a meager wage. Surprisingly here and there a young lithe urchin can be visible, fresh and nubile, like a beautiful pearl in the vulgar, vaginal meat of a rotting oyster carcass. To the extent I would even be tempted, the sensory overload and fear of blowing my cover by speaking terrible Portuguese overwhelm, and its decided rather quickly that this will be an observation only mission.....[/QUOTE]If you did not plagiarize this then you must be in the literary field. This has emphasized in my mind why I should not visit this place.
This is good knowledge. Thanks to Bravo, MrE, RioBob for the after action report and analysis.
[QUOTE=RioBob;2573326]This is pretty normal behavior for the police. Through the years especially if my taxi was full of passengers I have been pulled over a few times. I have learned the lesson not to speak to them in Portueguse because once I did they immediately told me to get out of the car and went through all my belongings and pockets looking for drugs being surrounded by 4 cops carrying machine guns. This has happened a few times and the girls told me it was normal.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2573174]It was a cross between GFE and PSE the whole time. The girl brought out all the tricks. DFK (not my thing but whatever), BBBJ, anal, and she wanted me to CIM. After I finish the girl did not want me to leave the room. Only about 20-25 minutes had gone by but she told me to take a 5 minute break then to go again for 10-15 more minutes. I told her it wasn't going to happen but she insisted on trying to make it happen by giving me another BBBJ. I try to clean up but she just kept trying to get me going again. I honestly admire the effort on her part as it shows dedication to the craft. Our time is up and we leave. I'm sure her intention was to get me going again and then want to buy more time,[/QUOTE]Sounds like standard Brazil service to me. Nothing like the leche papi leche service of the Dominican Republic. Those guys do not know what they are missing. I have never had a girl in a termas ask me to buy more time. That is just how they do.
[QUOTE=RioBob;2573326]This is pretty normal behavior for the police. Through the years especially if my taxi was full of passengers I have been pulled over a few times. I have learned the lesson not to speak to them in Portueguse because once I did they immediately told me to get out of the car and went through all my belongings and pockets looking for drugs being surrounded by 4 cops carrying machine guns. This has happened a few times and the girls told me it was normal.[/QUOTE]I guess for the most part, I've always taken public transportation, even at 2 or 3 am at night. The buses ran fairly well throughout the night, from centro, VM or be it the last BRT train from Jardim Ocenico. Never had a problem, never had to wait more than about 20 minutes and most would drop me off in somewhere Copa and I'd walk home.
Still, all the times I have taken a taxi during the day or late at night, I've yet to get the "get out of the car" treatment, when passing through police check points.
Thanks for the update, at least I know what to expect, even with Uber rides. BTW, if I saw you in a car with a bunch passengers (especially if they were girls), I'd stop you myself...kkkk
Zebrastipes indeed brings quality, detailed reports that invokes the sounds, senses of the streets and tantalizingly paints the scene for those of us still trapped by work in sex prison USA.
Unrelated: exchange rate today is 4. 9 to USD, down from 5. 76 in March, roughly a 14% decrease in Pussy Of Pussy (POP) and my feeling is that the real is significantly undervalued and few utility stocks that can can ridden on currency and / or capex. Ride a few positions to pay for riding the girls! I've enclosed the chart. The Real is close to bottom or more likely reversing and the futures market seems to be pricing that in. Companies with BR labor but directly or indirectly earning in high labor cost countries seem a decent bet in their own right. And quite a few have decent ROI and balance sheets. All the more reason for a field trip!
A quick check shows residency can be had for $30 k investment or $1,220 monthly income for an over 50 retirement visa. BR has the hospitals and training and regulates drug prices and bans kickbacks like most first world countries. The system can be topped up privately. However you look at it, BR is far better value than the USA health that is run by rent seeking insiders (in a joint venture with stockholders), marketing etc. That said, it has a live birth rate of 1. 8 and like most places, faces a major ageing demographic shift over the next 30 years (end game of financialization since 1980, crap wages discourages breeding and asset inflation). As with most countries, it means the young, lacking political influence and also lacking labor pricing power (and lack of capital to play in at he asset casino) will screwed economically, and in our case, literally. It seems unfair they grey boards will have access to prime pussy and the poor young dudes will have depend on charity sex.
Enjoy life and the rate, and I'd suggest some positions to secure Real income as a hedge on rates / POP.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2573385]Still, all the times I have taken a taxi during the day or late at night, I've yet to get the "get out of the car" treatment, when passing through police check points.
[/QUOTE]I have only had it once. Back in the day, me and some friends were coming back from probably Via Show in a taxi late at night and they had a road block on the expressway. Maybe I am not riding around far and as late at night as some guys are for this to be frequently happening to me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2573129]Thanks you mf genius. I have been on the cupid sites 16 years and have never thought of doing that. You are a moneysaver dude. Thanks for telling me how to spend my money.
So the Cupid sites price discriminate just like the chicks do. Charge one price one place and another price another place, all for the same site. Maybe some people will think the USA or European signup is higher quality because it costs more.[/QUOTE]Chicks, hotels, tours, airlines, you name it. In South America it always makes sense to check the "local" VPN rates before booking. With airlines it may or may not be worth it, as they might just invalidate your ticket if you can't provide your local ID number. But hotels can be got cheaper sometimes (not all, not always, though). But I'd never, in a million years, presume that dating sites play this game too. This is groundbreaking. And if it works with Cupids, it might work with others, too, like Par Perfeito, etc.
Saturday, I linked up with Mexidan at RB156.
We headed over to Praca XV, where we ate outside.
The street scene was fun with a live band.
We then went to Hotel Atlantico Tower or Hotel Sao Francisco, on the 18th floor roof swimming pool area. This is key for the midday place to chill between rounds, IMHO. The hotel is good to stay, to prospect non pros as many are young, hot girls, from all over Brazil and all over the continent. Rua visconde Inhuama 95.
We headed to 116, which was closed, 114 had nada, T31 was closed, U210 had nada. We walked back towards Metro Uruguayan so Mexican could catch his Covid test in Copa.
Vagabundo broke off, caught the 422 bus to VM, found a 20 year old hot negra, and busted a nut.
Vagabundo then caught an uber back to zona sul to link up with Mexican, who had decided on Monte Carlo, so Vagabundo headed back to Transamerica, where he will link up for a Paris Cafe run if the boys so desire. Other than that, he is mission complete, which is to say nut busted, and ready for the rack.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2573174]..... After I finish the girl did not want me to leave the room. Only about 20-25 minutes had gone by but she told me to take a 5 minute break then to go again for 10-15 more minutes. I told her it wasn't going to happen but she insisted on trying to make it happen by giving me another BBBJ and being as sexy / flirtatious as possible. I try to clean up but she just kept trying to get me going again. I honestly admire the effort on her part as it shows dedication to the craft....[/QUOTE]If it was not Brazil then I would think dedication to the craft but being Rio it was more like dedication to relieving her horniness. Once in Solarium after I finished the girl began to masturbate frantically right there and then on the bed.
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2573299]
Was wondering how detail are Brazilians regarding Covid entry requirements.
I was in UK within 14 days and is written then you might subject to quarantine.
Also how detail they are about PCR test, are they checking it and who (airlines or border).
Cheers for any info.[/QUOTE]This is my experience travelling from US to SP a month ago.
Both airline and SP immigration asked me for proof of covid negative PCR test result and Brazil health declaration. I didn't complete the health declaration prior to going to airport, so I had to get that done online at the airport before they allowed me to check-in. I recommend completing the health declaration and having a copy of it before your travel.
Hemingway writing contest, Fx.
Indeed, zebra is a Hemingway imitator, as am I, and a common assignment for a English class in high school! I would submit that the eminent Senhor Zebrastripes is perhaps a Conrad, a high compliment, as Conrad is the writer of apocalypse now.
I see these themes in Senor Zebra.
Egyptian Theology.
His description of VM as like a Egyptian temple is the stuff of Old Testament heresy. The Christian, angry god (Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God) would surely smite him down with thunder, pandemics, endemics -- oh, wait, we are in one. This is why I keep 2 meters apart from Zebra. Those lightening bolts smiting heathen Egyptians are not to be tested lightly.
Heart of Darkness / Star Wars / Tijuana.
Conrad wrote of Colonel Kurtz, which role I am auditioning for in real time, up the river in Africa, surrounded by nubile, 18 or 20 year old negras with round asses, wet, pink, self lubricating holes, full lips willing to suck a man to the root, big natural tits with sensitive nipples yearning to be suckled like baby bottles, dark ebony eyes, all willing to chupa piroca (rymes with fuma maconha, in the felipe ret song, go and lip sync that for a good laugh or fuck or two) on Colonel Kurtz, US Army Special Forces in Apocalypse now, or in the German or Belgian Army Special Forces or Diplomatic Corps, one cannot quite recall which, without the text, which is back on the bookself in the rich world in a beach condo while our hero, Colonel Kurtz arbitrages a rich world beach condo in exchange for a poor world beach condo, and all the willing, undervalued native holes that come with it.
FX.
So, you see USD BRL going back over 5? Or further down, near term?
I see fx as vaxxx related.
Vaxxx in Brazil goes up in %, BRL goes back down, infilizmente. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted, boys.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2573431]Zebrastipes indeed brings quality, detailed reports that invokes the sounds, senses of the streets and tantalizingly paints the scene for those of us still trapped by work in sex prison USA.
Unrelated: exchange rate today is 4. 9 to USD, down from 5. 76 in March, roughly a 14% decrease in Pussy Of Pussy (POP) and my feeling is that the real is significantly undervalued and few utility stocks that can can ridden on currency and / or capex. Ride a few positions to pay for riding the girls! I've enclosed the chart. The Real is close to bottom or more likely reversing and the futures market seems to be pricing that in. Companies with BR labor but directly or indirectly earning in high labor cost countries seem a decent bet in their own right. And quite a few have decent ROI and balance sheets. All the more reason for a field trip![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2573299]Great report TiaVoyage.
Next week I will try my luck chasing gems and good fun in Rio.
Was wondering how detail are Brazilians regarding Covid entry requirements.
I was in UK within 14 days and is written then you might subject to quarantine.
Also how detail they are about PCR test, are they checking it and who (airlines or border).
Cheers for any info.[/QUOTE]You will be refused boarding if you are not Brazilian national or close family member etc. The quarantine of 14 days is applied to that group of people.
Spread them.
PM me for deets.
This is why you might want to stay a few weeks / days in centro on a longer trip of months / weeks, this is the talent you want in your bed, even on viagems.
[URL]http://www.ksportal.com.br/[/URL]
This may be the best barra housing option for relative newbies.
It will run about 50 USD a night, as opposed to less than 20 USD at Transamerica for monthly renters.
But the location is great, as it is in steps of metro.
The amenities are better, the apartments bigger, multi bedroom, more like the big tourist apartments in copa. The vibe in barra is Miami, the vibe in copa is times square. Neither is wrong or right, but one should choose per one's preference.
It is also a short walk to Perola Negra, and a easy cab ride or even bus ride for the senor spartan Sperto to Paris Cafe.
When one gets serious, there is the condo novo leblon near infoplace which is one of the alpha addresses. Novo Leblon says it all about Barra, which is still a work in progress.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2573791]You will be refused boarding if you are not Brazilian national or close family member etc. The quarantine of 14 days is applied to that group of people.[/QUOTE]How they know where was I 10 days ago?
Speaking from boarding gate experience or just reading what is written?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2573718]If it was not Brazil then I would think dedication to the craft but being Rio it was more like dedication to relieving her horniness. Once in Solarium after I finished the girl began to masturbate frantically right there and then on the bed.[/QUOTE]My first Termas visit ever was to Solarium in 2000. After I finished banging the chick in the cabina, she got on all fours and starting fingering her butthole. Only in Brasil.
A few visits later, I started hanging with a pro chica that was letting me bone her for nothing (nice to be young!) One time I came in a rubber in her pussy. She berated me for not taking it our and coming in her mouth. Again, only in Brasil.
[QUOTE=Combo;2573918]My first Termas visit ever was to Solarium in 2000. After I finished banging the chick in the cabina, she got on all fours and starting fingering her butthole. Only in Brasil.
A few visits later, I started hanging with a pro chica that was letting me bone her for nothing (nice to be young!) One time I came in a rubber in her pussy. She berated me for not taking it our and coming in her mouth. Again, only in Brasil.[/QUOTE]The very first time I went to Cancun (now Manhattan), after I finished in this girl's ass and was putting my robe on to leave, she rolled over onto her stomach and spread her butt cheeks wide asking me to cornhole her some more. We had plenty of time left in the session, but I wasn't into her that much and was ready to leave. She seemed disappointed LOL. All of us Brazil vets have stories like this. The Brasiliera is the best sexual being on the planet!
Fellas, I'm coming down in a few weeks. As usual I plan on checking out most of the top termas (4 x4, Solarium, etc) and some of the second tire (those in close proximity to 4 x4). Also Bel Prazer (which has been a gem my last couple trips) and a few other spots like it in the area. My question is have any of your laid eyes on or Sessioned with any PHAT bubble (natural) asses lately that you think are worth mentioning? If so please let me know where. Rio is huge and has tons of options. It can take forever to see even a fraction of the talent so just wondering if anyone has specifically seen anything I would like just so that I can cut down on time. Thanks for any info you may have!
Well, I touched down in Rio at midnight on Friday and got to my hotel in Copa (Pestana) around 2 am which was a breath of fresh air after 12 hours in transit. It's a nice enough hotel, but it definitely shows some signs of wear and tear. Things like bad caulking, worn down furniture but it will do for the price I got it at. The majority of my first day was spent getting a lay of the land, spending some time on the beach, and stocking up on the essentials like snacks and water. My plan is to try the different options that are available in Rio and I'll start with some of the closer termas before branching out into the terapias, darkside termas, and online game.
Day 1.
Being that I was a bit tired, I decided to switch up my schedule and hit Monte Carlo first around 6:30 pm rather than head down to Centaurus. Overall, it is definitely a smaller venue than I expected but I didn't have much time to consider that as I was immediately mobbed by a few girls looking to start my trip off right. I counted around 10 ladies in the bar with the majority being 7/10 and a couple of stunners. Luckily one of the stunning girls mobbed me in the beginning so I didn't have to shoo away the others too hard and I ended up picking a smaller branca who had a "smart fit" (which is more my style) look rather than the huge bunda type that seems to be more common here. I followed the advice of some good veterans here and made sure pick up my tongue off the ground and ask her a few questions before just taking her upstairs (What will you do for me? Get some DFK in the bar, etc.). Luckily she passed the tests and up we went. I picked the shorter time and we went to work. I love the way that others have described the typical Brazilian experience which is a mix of PSE and GFE. Immediately, we are at it like horny bunnies with the added benefit of her prompting to get in different positions. I don't think she spoke English but I can't really remember because we didn't spend much time talking. After I busted the first time, she made me finish her off before she took about a minute break and then jumped me again for nut two. With that, the time was up and I left a happy man. This was a great experience that left me wanting more which probably informed my decision the next day.
Day 2.
After a good night's rest and beach relaxation (people can shit on Copa's and Ipanema's beaches all they want but it is more than enough for the simple man who lives in the North), I decided to hit Centaurus around 7 ish and see if the hype was worth it. Well the amenities were fairly nice and the bar was a bit more spacious so that is a plus. There were about 15 girls and I would say that about 10 of them were doable and 6 were very attractive. I got the same mob treatment here so keep that in mind if you are hitting termas. In the end, I picked up a super cute morena with curly brown hair. She had really young look (I would have guessed around 19-20 but she was 27 haha. She told me most of the girls claim they are 18-20 for their older clients and this tracks with my experience around the world.). She didn't speak any English but we got by with my Spanish and a bit of google translate to help. I ended up picking a 1 hour session because I wanted to have a bit more time. I had a feeling that things were going to be good because I felt that we had good chemistry. I know this can be a foolish thing to consider, but luckily my intuition was right. This was like my day one experience but even better. I guess she was really horny or something because we barely had time to DFK before she suited me up and went to work. Suffice it to say, we went though many positions and I busted numerous times. She had me in cowgirl and didn't stop after I busted until she was done. Best part of all was she was a squirter and she let a huge amount when I was DATY. That was a first for me. In the end, I got her number and will probably hit up later in the week.
Early Thoughts.
So far, my experiences in the Tier 1 termas have been great. MC was around 500 for the time and Centaurus was a pricey 1 k (it would have been 720 if I chose the 40 minute time) for everything, including drinks. I didn't meet any girls that spoke good or even passable English yet. Thank goodness I know Spanish since it seems like most Brazilians can understand that well enough. But if you have good chemistry with a girl, then google translate will be fine and may even be a bit fun for a longer conversation. Small sample size but the service in Brazil has been otherworldly. It is always a good sign to see women use you to pleasure themselves so I have no complaints. Sunday is going to be a work day for me so I won't be active, but I'll return on Monday and try out some of the cheaper options in Centro. Overall, I feel like the tier 1 options have been worth their price because they are easy to get to, the quality of girls was good, and the service was great. This may change if the cheaper options prove to match that for a better price, but I'll reserve judgement until I try it.
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2573877]How they know where was I 10 days ago?
Speaking from boarding gate experience or just reading what is written?[/QUOTE]You're asking if they're following the rules strictly. Everyone is telling you yes, they are. They will know if you've been to the UK by your passport. If it doesn't say on your passport that you were in the UK the last 14 days, you might be able to get away with it.
PCR test is strictly enforced. I believe mine was enforced by my airline. I filled out my health declaration form online and printed it (13 pages). Airline staff were mostly confused by it, but it helped facilitate a faster check in process.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2573313]It has been a pleasure to monger with the latest crew -- TIA, Zebra, Miami, my wingmen in 4 x4 on a successful intel gathering raid -- with Gato1 and Mexidan standing by as the Quick Reaction Force. Obviously, some of us speak the same language of Hemingwayesque allusion to military terminology. But at the end of the day, we are libertines, or that is to say, Frenchmen, oh, to be a Frenchman in Rio de Janeiro, it doesn't get much better than that.[/QUOTE]This was indeed a great moment- and for that matter all of my expeditions with ISG wingmen have been positive experiences. Ages ago I read an MSM hatchet job on the ISG and other related hobby forums which was predictably judgmental with all the usual canards and crude judgements. The phrase that stuck with me was a description of the hobby as an essentially lonely and solitary pursuit- which, yes, it can be. Availing myself of this forum and the real-life wingmen herein, I see that it also can be a team sport with camaraderie, and all the usual jostling and preening that goes with male hierarchy- but also essentially a benign and yes, wholesome pursuit that practiced socially removes any lingering self-stigma and reproachments.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2573758]Hemingway writing contest, Fx.
Indeed, zebra is a Hemingway imitator, as am I, and a common assignment for a English class in high school! I would submit that the eminent Senhor Zebrastripes is perhaps a Conrad, a high compliment, as Conrad is the writer of apocalypse now.
I see these themes in Senor Zebra.
Egyptian Theology.
His description of VM as like a Egyptian temple is the stuff of Old Testament heresy. The Christian, angry god (Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God) would surely smite him down with thunder, pandemics, endemics -- oh, wait, we are in one. This is why I keep 2 meters apart from Zebra. Those lightening bolts smiting heathen Egyptians are not to be tested lightly.
Heart of Darkness / Star Wars / Tijuana.
Conrad wrote of Colonel Kurtz, which role I am auditioning for in real time, up the river in Africa, surrounded by nubile, 18 or 20 year old negras with round asses, wet, pink, self lubricating holes, full lips willing to suck a man to the root, big natural tits with sensitive nipples yearning to be suckled like baby bottles, dark ebony eyes, all willing to chupa piroca (rymes with fuma maconha, in the felipe ret song, go and lip sync that for a good laugh or fuck or two) on Colonel Kurtz, US Army Special Forces in Apocalypse now, or in the German or Belgian Army Special Forces or Diplomatic Corps, one cannot quite recall which, without the text, which is back on the bookself in the rich world in a beach condo while our hero, Colonel Kurtz arbitrages a rich world beach condo in exchange for a poor world beach condo, and all the willing, undervalued native holes that come with it.[/QUOTE]I think this comparison to Kurtz is very interesting and valid, both in the Ford Coppola sense, and in the original Conradian sense. Vagabundo- you are indeed a fascinating character- your writing stood out enough for me to mention it to a friend as notable and colorful before even posting here or arriving on the ground. You write long form psychedelic sex-haiku, channeling the poetic sensibilities of Crowley and Bukowski, with the atmospherics of Jean Genet or perhaps Balzac. Your placement on the ground and the energy and consistency you bring to the subject means that your contributions to the forum are seminal and central. But, you are also difficult and cantankerous, often much too quick to find offense and sometimes needlessly dismissive. This is fine- most interesting people are difficult. People can accept the price or not. I chose to accept it. Posturing and preening are a natural part of male hierarchy, we all do it. Soft abuse (ball busting) is how we get to see who is hard enough to actually command respect. That's why I know you won't wind my frankness in this note, because I wouldn't even bother to criticize you (mildly) if I did not respect you.
That being said, back to this Kurtzian insight and some questions. Does the freedom from obligation and worldly convention inevitably lead to a descent into madness? Will such a man find his corpse one day lying next to the pile of MacAffees and Epsteins? Is unrestrained sexuality and an ability to partake at such high frequency and volume a kind of dark enlightenment, or, a prison of the flesh? Was Kurtz a transcendent genius or more of a tragic figure? Most people do not lead a life that would enable them to answer such questions. Senor Vagabundo finds himself in this very Duchovnian world, and so I wonder what insight he is able to bring upon his own station, his own sense of metaphysical integration? I do not judge, simply ask the question. It is not necessary if the question is even answered, to ask it is a kind of answer.
The Sumerian goddess of love and war Innana, known later as Ishtar, and to the Babylonians and Hebrews as Astarte comes to mind. As she was also the goddess of sex and prostitutes, it was necessary for the Ensi (king) to partake in ritualized sex with the Priestess of Innana in the cella (a small room atop the ziggurat) in order to ensure her blessings.
The significance: that the profession of prostitution from it's earliest appearance in civilization was a sanctified and integral part of the social order. You might say all hobbyists are devotees to the Cult of Innana- and that certainly her presence in the everyday fabric of life in countries like Brazil, Thailand, etc is much greater than America, where she has been marginalized to pop music and strange, pervy corners of the internet. There she lives more in the basement than in the bedroom.
The mongers I've met through ISG have all been straight up normal dudes with good jobs and prospects or otherwise honorably retired. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are some fiends and ant****ial deviants that post here- but for the most part, as I've mentioned before I see the hobby as a normal wholesome pursuit.
Which brings us back again to Vagabundo and Kurtz and the question of how far into the jungle we really are? Some would say we are nowhere near any sort of jungle, that this is all a vivid farce. Again, questions are more interesting than answers.
As I make my way to Colombia and then back to the USA I will inevitably post here less, and perhaps eventually not at all or very little- but I do appreciate this particular forum and the characters that contribute to it. It certainly seems a cut above most. And many thanks to the people that have enjoyed my writing- I think to the extent it resonates, its because the subject matter is well chosen.
Zebra.
Rio Biz Cards 1 of #.
You roll into Rio, a aspiring producer of porn or just a dude who wants to reenact what you see on [URL]evilangel.com[/URL].
These are the essential cards to throw through zap or insta, once you get your talent's number at solarium, which card is attached.
These motels range from the best (VIPS, which is out of business, we hope temporarily; and panda; and bambina) to the most useful (barao, malaga) because they are central, to bem zona norte (cartago).
For 4 x 4, choose sheik.
Now you are James bond because you can read the tattoo on the hooker's wrist and say, "Macau sex trade" and speak her language. Just pass her your phone, show her the biz card, and she knows what you want. Agree on a price. Make it happen. Shaken not stirred.
[URL]https://www.economist.com/leaders/2014/08/07/a-personal-choice[/URL]
Senhor Zebra,
You are a scholar and a gentleman; our friends are our best psychoanalysts, literary critics, etc.
Our conversation spans Huntington's 8 world civilizations, indeed, sex is a subject that brings us closer to. Whatever our higher power is.
[URL]economist.com[/URL] could fairly be said to span all countries, as the fx is how all countries, civilizations communicate.
To wit, I would submit the linked article above is valid world wide (and that bubba boy's guide is still valid, and that perhaps for the moment, Rio is the now and forever capital of P4P).
Vagabundo, as a Kurtz, self aware; and as since eating unleavened bread in the basement of temple as a 5 year old, Vagabundo obeys all laws of which he is aware; but as Seinfeld says, it is not a lie if you believe it to be true, a nice summation of the plausible deniability that it takes to be a true carioca, at times. Sitting in Casablanca, like a bogart, waiting for that brunette from Paris to come in with some other dude.
Indeed, Vagabundo's life is perhaps like Heart of Darkness, but beneath the surface, it is also like Tropic Thunder, as Vagabundo recalls the command to never go full retard.
[URL]https://youtu.be/X6WHBO_Qc-Q[/URL]
Indeed, in English, it was taught that hell is the full complete expression of one's individual desire to be godlike, Tutankhamen like, memorialized in gold and stone pyramids, to which you allude if you will. But by contrast some golden mean is in giving of oneself to a higher good, to help another soul. And in our own small way as clients of sex workers, we can be kind, generous, and we do help these workers financially through a time when many are starving; indeed, some mongers, who shall go nameless go out of their way to help their sex workers financially, and in other ways, to give food to the hungry, etc.
[URL]https://youtu.be/IOkwd3_6z0Y[/URL]
Finally, citing joseph cambell, the power of myth, "all the gods and all the heavens and all the hells are within you" in a scene which cites the "never go full retard" scene.
Within our specific literature of prostitution in Rio, in the novel, "Fim"by Torres we see 5 life times of hooker mongers; we are free to choose which one we will live our lives as. I, for one, live my life as the one by the beach, who works out daily, who fucks as many of Rio's finest as I can. This novel, Fim, parallels the two lives of quincas water-bray, which was commended to us by this thread too, among the great literature of Brazil.
Thank you sir, for your correspondence. Safe travels.
Vagabundo.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574109]I think this comparison to Kurtz is very interesting and valid, both in the Ford Coppola sense, and in the original Conradian sense. [/QUOTE]
Some excellent insights here. I lack the sophisticated erudition of some here, but know enough history to make what I hope is useful.
Taking the analogy further, compare Colonel Kilgore to Colonel Kurtz and ask who is more insane. The comparative madness is a very old narrative, such as Kesey "one Flew Over the Cuckooos Nest". The same questioning of "reality" and self is an age old question.
In this matter, the conventionality lies between the implied obligations of reproduction of economic units in a nuclear family modern world says is the primary or sole repository of emotional or social validation connection. Other societies place platonic emotional connection far higher, and distinguish sex from emotional needs. Many male only groups have and will continue to supply this need, and not a few wives get jealous their meal ticket is not 100% co-dependent. Women have the equivalent, and are probably better at it than us. Many people love their pets which is considered acceptable. The romantic single point of emotional support failure is neither a necessary of sufficient part of a happy life. Poverty and illness can and does regularly shatter such state sponsored arrangements. Relationships are fragile. In engineering, system redundancy is prized as the answer to mean time between failure (MTBF). We have two kidneys for a similar reason.
The analogy with Epstein or McAfee, or the many suicides in Thailand is misleading. The question is whether unlimited P4 P is inherently self-destructive; and whether we, as mongers, are lost in the jungle. If a fellow lives only for fucking and alcohol and is otherwise idle, meaning not developing his mind / skills or meaningful social connection, then yes, they are at high risk of being a Kurtz. Solitary confinement specifically targets the need to bond and interaction. Jail removes sex, also seen as punishment. We also have a bunch of brain chemicals and patterns of reward that we can re-train and not be slaves to.
In reality, the numerous song / poem / story genre "I cannot live without you" is really about a weak sense of self, lack of identity, lack of self actualization and lack of having a platonic group of others, if you like, back up. The error is conflating sex with the internal basket of a strong self and a bunch of good, trusted friends. P4 P is not the problem per se. It starts with self. Far from being lost in the jungle, it might be that the clearly intelligent and productive dezinens of sub-group have evolved. It is conventional society that is the demonstrable jungle. Kurtz realized the truth. As the script said, "he broke from society and then broke from himself". His weakness was emotional loneliness.
The best way of not getting lost is a not flying beyond core skill level, flight plan, destination, situational awareness, navigation, adequate fuel and alternative landing spots if en route weather changes. Check and re-check assumptions. It's called cognitive flexibility and resilience. The military tests this for for officers and hones these traits. If you need drugs or alcohol to get by on a basis, something is wrong. If you need a person as a prop and will fall over without them, you also lack airworthiness. If you have too much time on your hands without evolving or lack the laughter and company of like minded folks, also a problem. Alcohol, over eating, sex, distractions etc are all escapes from a deeper madness. Turn the whole thing around and look to causes. P4P is not mad any more than a fine meal. All in balance. Adjust the trim. Allow for drift and correct course. The seven deadly sins remains a good plan of keeping default human sloth in check.
If your life is in order, you have enough to live on without working, and you have a few really good, trusted friends (as in trusted with money and secrets and accepting you as who you really are) you are already a winner. P4 P is icing on the cake, nothing to worry about *IF* the aircraft is in good repair and flown within its limits and pilot skill. It is residual guilt of having run away from the plantation and living a life very few men get to enjoy. The people here for the most part are people I'd be very happy to have for company; intelligent, highly aware, articulate, educated and from what I can see have a healthy deprecation of hubris.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2574231]If your life is in order, you have enough to live on without working, and you have a few really good, trusted friends (as in trusted with money and secrets and accepting you as who you really are) you are already a winner. P4 P is icing on the cake, nothing to worry about *IF* the aircraft is in good repair and flown within its limits and pilot skill. It is residual guilt of having run away from the plantation and living a life very few men get to enjoy. The people here for the most part are people I'd be very happy to have for company; intelligent, highly aware, articulate, educated and from what I can see have a healthy deprecation of hubris.[/QUOTE]That says it all!
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2573959]
Day 2.
After a good night's rest and beach relaxation (people can shit on Copa's and Ipanema's beaches all they want but it is more than enough for the simple man who lives in the North), I decided to hit Centaurus around 7 ish and see if the hype was worth it. Well the amenities were fairly nice and the bar was a bit more spacious so that is a plus. There were about 15 girls and I would say that about 10 of them were doable and 6 were very attractive. I got the same mob treatment here so keep that in mind if you are hitting termas. In the end, I picked up a super cute morena with curly brown hair. She had really young look (I would have guessed around 19-20 but she was 27 haha. She told me most of the girls claim they are 18-20 for their older clients and this tracks with my experience around the world.). She didn't speak any English but we got by with my Spanish and a bit of google translate to help. I ended up picking a 1 hour session because I wanted to have a bit more time. I had a feeling that things were going to be good because I felt that we had good chemistry. I know this can be a foolish thing to consider, but luckily my intuition was right. This was like my day one experience but even better. I guess she was really horny or something because we barely had time to DFK before she suited me up and went to work. Suffice it to say, we went though many positions and I busted numerous times. She had me in cowgirl and didn't stop after I busted until she was done. Best part of all was she was a squirter and she let a huge amount when I was DATY. That was a first for me. In the end, I got her number and will probably hit up later in the loop.[/QUOTE]Nice report!!
I have yet to find a squirter and was wondering if you could maybe share that contact for my next trip to Rio. I don't think you can PM yet so maybe if you get enough posts, you could drop me a PM.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2573986]You're asking if they're following the rules strictly. Everyone is telling you yes, they are. They will know if you've been to the UK by your passport. If it doesn't say on your passport that you were in the UK the last 14 days, you might be able to get away with it.
PCR test is strictly enforced. I believe mine was enforced by my airline. I filled out my health declaration form online and printed it (13 pages). Airline staff were mostly confused by it, but it helped facilitate a faster check in process.[/QUOTE]Cheers.
Flights booked anyway, couldn't wait anymore.
Lets see what happens.
Those who dares wins!
2 of 2. The fuller collection.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2574118]Rio Biz Cards 1 of #.
You roll into Rio, a aspiring producer of porn or just a dude who wants to reenact what you see on [URL]evilangel.com[/URL].
These are the essential cards to throw through zap or insta, once you get your talent's number at solarium, which card is attached.
These motels range from the best (VIPS, which is out of business, we hope temporarily; and panda; and bambina) to the most useful (barao, malaga) because they are central, to bem zona norte (cartago).
For 4 x 4, choose sheik.
Now you are James bond because you can read the tattoo on the hooker's wrist and say, "Macau sex trade" and speak her language. Just pass her your phone, show her the biz card, and she knows what you want. Agree on a price. Make it happen. Shaken not stirred.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2574283]Nice report!!
I have yet to find a squirter and was wondering if you could maybe share that contact for my next trip to Rio. I don't think you can PM yet so maybe if you get enough posts, you could drop me a PM.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Once dated a woman who drenched the bed. No, it is not urine. The first time it was WTF! After that it was, how about we do it on the floor?
First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registered.
I am happy that I only payed for 1 week, so I will switch hotels next week and stay at IBIS. I wish the manager had been more specific and explained that I couldn't change females every night because I wouldn't be staying here. I know 85 reais is not a lot of money but it adds up over 3 weeks and it the point that why register as 2 people if I still have to pay a charge when I have a female over. In addition, i now have to add basically another 100 reais to what ever i negotiate with the female. Complete bullshit!
I will start calling girls over in the afternoon and I hope there is no fucking games with management when I do that!
[QUOTE=Bravo;2574559]First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registered.
I am happy that I only payed for 1 week, so I will switch hotels next week and stay at IBIS. I wish the manager had been more specific and explained that I couldn't change females every night because I wouldn't be staying here. I know 85 reais is not a lot of money but it adds up over 3 weeks and it the point that why register as 2 people if I still have to pay a charge when I have a female over. In addition, i now have to add basically another 100 reais to what ever i negotiate with the female. Complete bullshit!
I will start calling girls over in the afternoon and I hope there is no fucking games with management when I do that![/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. Unfortunately, guest friendly hotels in Rio and elsewhere can many times be a moving target. If the manager isn't changing the rules during your stay, the night manager is trying to change them.
I have had the annoying "I paid for a double room for two guests." conversation a few times. Sometimes they relented and sometimes I've been forced to find another hotel. I guess that's why I've migrated to short-term rental units.
It's a pain in the ass, because sometimes you want the service and amenities of a hotel.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2574559]First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registered.
I am happy that I only payed for 1 week, so I will switch hotels next week and stay at IBIS. I wish the manager had been more specific[/QUOTE]That MF manager was as specific as he wanted to be to get you book at his hotel. You aren't the first monger staying in his establishment, and he knows exactly what the score is. Not even mentioning that if you had ONE girl, you could just check in with her and that's it, no need for all that bullshit.
Before you go to IBIS, check Portobay. Great location, and I've heard good things about its girlfriendliness. You might, however, want to try to reconfirm that with the hotel.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2574559]First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registered[/QUOTE]That is definitely an issue for a long stay like yours. Does IBIS allow guests no extra charge?
I ask because I'm spending 3 nights in Rio in late August, and booked at the Hilton Copacabana hoping I won't have issues if I call in some girls to come over for some sessions, or even if I bring someone with me after hitting the termas. I hope I won't have to pay extras there too.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2574559]The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.[/QUOTE]I agree, that's complete BS. Maybe it depends on the manager. But when I brought a lady into my room (Astoria), the hotel receptionist didn't bat an eye. She left after an HR, but the receptionist didn't know that when I was bringing her up.
I agree, this wasn't your fault. They were misleading so you'd book their room. They know it's super awkward to type that shit out: "I plan on sleeping with different women each night. Is that ok?" LOL.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2574559]First let me say I put the blame on my shoulders for not being specific enough when I went on a tour of the hotel. During the tour, the manager asked if I would be staying alone and I said yes, but I will have female friends come to visit me, he replied that it wouldn't be a problem as long as I registered as 2 people. Well. That wasn't exactly the case.
The hotel is nice and I love the view from the 11th floor but there is my HUGE problem with the hotel. I had a girl come visit me last night for a couple of hours and the night manager asked if she was staying the night because if she was, I would have to pay a charge! I was like WTF? A charge for what? I registered as 2 people.
So this morning, I went and spoke to the manager who is also the one who showed me the hotel and asked what the issue was. Apparently, you can have guest come to see you during the day, but I can only have ONE female stay the night for free. If I change females, then I have to pay 85 fucking reais per person! I never had to deal with this before in a hotel, where I could only have one guest registered.
I am happy that I only payed for 1 week, so I will switch hotels next week and stay at IBIS. I wish the manager had been more specific and explained that I couldn't change females every night because I wouldn't be staying here. I know 85 reais is not a lot of money but it adds up over 3 weeks and it the point that why register as 2 people if I still have to pay a charge when I have a female over. In addition, i now have to add basically another 100 reais to what ever i negotiate with the female. Complete bullshit!
I will start calling girls over in the afternoon and I hope there is no fucking games with management when I do that![/QUOTE]I never had that happen to me at the Astoria Palace, and I brought back my share of girls to the room. Believe me. This is one thing I hate about less than "first tier" countries. One time it's this, then another time it's that. If they can get away with it. Booking the room for 2 should have been all it took! That's the standard, commonly accepted practice.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2574514]Once dated a woman who drenched the bed. No, it is not urine. The first time it was WTF! After that it was, how about we do it on the floor?[/QUOTE]I've encountered that issue many times. :D I'll get a diaper changing pad if I'm going to keep seeing that particular lady. Those pads are absorbent, inexpensive, and they cum in various sizes. lol
With some of the recently written posts / conversions and poetic pros, comparisons to Hemingway (and the like), with regards to [B]VM[/B], it's interesting to note the strong emotional connection that a place, like VM triggers within someone to write such passionate pros.
When you consider, Hemingway love to write while in Cuba and [B]Hemingway wrote some of his best work while in Cuba[/B], a place, considered "squalled" and far "inferior" to American on so many levels. . . it begs the question, where is the same level of bluster, "poetic tales" and passion of enchantment [i]for the high-end establishments?[/i] Perhaps there are some? I don't remember any of recent memory.
What is it about VM, that brings out the Hemingway in some?
And this is why I don't believe half the BS that is put out. Funny as shit video about American propoganda.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EXF-9GtHsek[/URL]
[QUOTE=Spidy;2574633]What is it about VM, that brings out the Hemingway in some?[/QUOTE]Are you writing a book or something? You pose a lot of questions that have shit to do with shit.
Not urine? That's not what WebMD says. To each his own!
[URL]https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-squirting-orgasm[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2574641]Are you writing a book or something? You pose a lot of questions that have shit to do with shit.[/QUOTE]I think my questions are quite clear, for those that have read the Hemingway references that were posted in recent conversations surrounding VM.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2574641]Are you writing a book or something? You pose a lot of questions that have shit to do with shit.[/QUOTE]So you're saying that the "Hemingway writers" of this Rio thread and their writing style with regards to VM, aint got "shit" to do with Hemingway and him doing some of his best work while in Cuba.
Fair enough! Good to know, if that's your take.
[URL]https://youtu.be/Hj-1QxFS3eQ[/URL]
All the great writers are liars".
Senhor Vagabundo is more or less with Spidy on this one. But Senhor Mister Enternational is right as he has the most posts, in as much, as we are interested in current intel.
Hence, as Senhor Vagabundo has suggested, we need a thread for the Literature of Prostitution.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2574666]So you're saying that the "Hemingway writers" of this Rio thread and their writing style with regards to VM, aint got "shit" to do with Hemingway and him doing some of his best work while in Cuba.
Fair enough! Good to know, if that's your take.[/QUOTE]
I stayed in Centro last week at the IBIS hotel and had an issue with management and guests. I had one girl over two nights in a row and on the 2nd night they told her that I had to pat 42 reais for having her stay the night. I went downstairs to speak to the receptionist to find out what the problem was and she said there is a 21 R charge per night for a guest. I explained that I had reserved for 2 but she said I would have to speak to the manager in the morning. I told her I wasnt going to speak to anyone and that I would check out of the hotel at the end of the week and never book there again.
1 hour later my phone rang and it was the receptionist explaining that she found the problem. Because I didn't reserve a room on Ibis website and instead used [URL]booking.com[/URL], it didn't show up in Ibis system that I had reserved for 2 people. She admitted she made a mistake and said she would put something in the computer so I could get my money back in the morning.
Now I only had One girl over to the hotel last week, so I don't know how this is going to work next week when I plan to have a nightly guest. I guess I will have to be VERY fucking specific when I ask about the guest policy, or maybe I should just get an apartment instead.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2574641]Are you writing a book or something? You pose a lot of questions that have shit to do with shit.[/QUOTE]Not talking specifically about Spidy, but I mean I'm getting tired of being bludgeoned to death with constant literary (and other) allusions. How's about just some good old, straight up, straight forward field reports like in those good days of old? Geesh!
Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower.
Rua Visconde de Inhauma 95.
Transamerica / Associatioin Mediteraneo.
Av Gastao Senges 395.
Don't take that shit. Pick either of those hotels.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2574692]I stayed in Centro last week at the IBIS hotel and had an issue with management and guests. I had one girl over two nights in a row and on the 2nd night they told her that I had to pat 42 reais for having her stay the night. I went downstairs to speak to the receptionist to find out what the problem was and she said there is a 21 R charge per night for a guest. I explained that I had reserved for 2 but she said I would have to speak to the manager in the morning. I told her I wasnt going to speak to anyone and that I would check out of the hotel at the end of the week and never book there again.
1 hour later my phone rang and it was the receptionist explaining that she found the problem. Because I didn't reserve a room on Ibis website and instead used [URL]booking.com[/URL], it didn't show up in Ibis system that I had reserved for 2 people. She admitted she made a mistake and said she would put something in the computer so I could get my money back in the morning.
Now I only had One girl over to the hotel last week, so I don't know how this is going to work next week when I plan to have a nightly guest. I guess I will have to be VERY fucking specific when I ask about the guest policy, or maybe I should just get an apartment instead.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but Brazil still doesn't have nuclear submarines. Haha.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2574640]And this is why I don't believe half the BS that is put out. Funny as shit video about American propoganda.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EXF-9GtHsek[/URL][/QUOTE]
This ironically will become true of a girl, haha.
Vagabundo is doing a 300 pernoite with a new girl, let's call her Nia Nacci.
Meanwhile, he is plotting to fuck a new 18 year old porn starlet, oh, my the plot thickens.
Stay tuned, I will invite you to the wedding, and you can all fuck her too. Hahaha.
\You're always dancing down the street.
With your suede blue eyes.
And every new boy that you meet.
He doesn't know the real surprise.
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
Ooh, she'll make you flip.
(Here she comes again).
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
I kinda like the way she dips.
She's my best friend's girl.
She's my best friend's girl.
But she used to be mine.
You've got your nuclear boots.
And your drip dry glove.
Ooh when you bite your lip.
It's some reaction to love, o-ove, o-ove.
(Here she comes again).
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
Yeah, I think you'll flip.
(Here she comes again).
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
(Here she comes again).
I kinda like the way, I like the way she dips.
'Cause she's my best friend's girl.
Well she's my best friend's girl.
And she used to be mine.
She's so fine.
You're always dancing down the street.
With your suede blue eye-eyes.
And every new boy that you meet.
Doesn't know the real surprise.
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
(Here she comes again).
Oh, she'll make you flip.
(Here she comes again).
When she's dancing 'neath the starry sky.
(Here she comes again).
I kinda like the way, I like the way she dips.
'Cause she's my best friend's girl, uh.
She's my best friend's girl-irl uh-irl.
She used to be mine.
She so, fine.
Oh.
(My best friend's girlfriend).
She used to be mine.
(My best friend's girlfriend) yeah yeah.
(My best friend's girlfriend).
Said she used to be mine.
(My best friend's girlfriend) oh, yeah yeah yeah.
(My best friend's girlfriend).
She used to be mine.
(My best friend's girlfriend).
(My best friend's girlfriend).
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2574573]That is definitely an issue for a long stay like yours. Does IBIS allow guests no extra charge?
I ask because I'm spending 3 nights in Rio in late August, and booked at the Hilton Copacabana hoping I won't have issues if I call in some girls to come over for some sessions, or even if I bring someone with me after hitting the termas. I hope I won't have to pay extras there too.[/QUOTE]Hilton is not guest-friendly.
I have stayed at hotels all over Rio and have never had a guest issue.
Maybe some members should read this classic.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People[/URL]
Over the years I have lost track of the number of copies I have purchased for others.
In addition, suggest watching this classic paying particular attention to the manager's reference to a special customer.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ET3y4q5Os[/URL]
If you can't help being a jerk, stop. If you slither around like you have something to hide, stop. Be the guest the hotel wants and other guests would never complain about.
Most of all, stop complaining about hotels as if they are the problem.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2574633]What is it about VM, that brings out the Hemingway in some?[/QUOTE]I think it's the element of danger and the unknown- at least as perceived by a sheltered gringo mongers on holiday. Scandallo, etc does not provide this dramatic tension.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2574718]Not talking specifically about Spidy, but I mean I'm getting tired of being bludgeoned to death with constant literary (and other) allusions. How's about just some good old, straight up, straight forward field reports like in those good days of old? Geesh![/QUOTE]Point taken. Yes, let's get back to that.
Was at 65 with "Nicolle" who requested that I photograph and video portions of the encounter. I will spare the readers shot of my anatomy. I enjoy her silicon body and positive attitude with regards to garganta profunda and liete na boca, but mongers will find her face makeup a bit weird as she is gobbling you as she has tried to make her nose look thinner by applying an extreme highlight along the edge which in better light looks ridiculous and is hard to take seriously. Nevertheless, great performer, get her while she's good.
Phone.
I enrolled in google fi and bought two cheap (relatively) Motorola phones before arrival. With google fi your phone / internet will work just about anywhere in the world and this is convenient coming off the plane, etc. My monger whatsapp and social media all silo'd on this phone as well so it doesn't pollute my real life.
Airbnb / Hotel.
I stayed at 3 airbnb's over the 6 weeks and had no trouble at all bringing in ladies. No questions asked by the door ever. Ever. I need to do laundry, like to have a kitchen, and don't need someone to make my bed every morning, so I'm not sure what the draw of a hotel would even be considering all the hassles it seems to be causing. My first two weeks were in Copa, then I got wise and moved to Ipanema, where I stayed for a month, 3 weeks of which at a discount rate by paying cash directly to the renter.
Mongering.
I visited Terma's 65, 4 x 4, 502, and Monte Carlo and sessioned multiple times. I visited Solarium, Club 116/114, T 31, Manhattan, Marrakech, Kalabria, but did not session or pull girls from these establishments. My favorite terma was T 65, where I sessioned very frequently. For two beers, entry fee, and 30 minute of sex, 305 reals is not a bad deal. I appreciate the more laid back atmosphere in the T 65 lounge, and although there is quality at 4 x4 there's too much bunda grande for me. Also it's too dark in that club to gauge looks completely. Also its going to be a different mix every night at 65 because the girls are all freelancers so it's a new scene every time you go.
I pulled girls from Mab' and the walk between Mab's and DV. I visited DV (Dolce Vita) a couple times but it was dead both times. Mab's will have some great talent on occasion. I used Brazilian Cupid once, but did not use any online sites. I did not go to prives or clinics.
GFE.
I got wrapped up early on with one particular Terma girl and tried to replicate a GFE with her over the course of a few weeks. This is a mistake, do not do this with a Terma girl. It might be ok with an SA girl, and even then be weary. I wasted a lot of time, money, and emotional energy on this effort- probably because she seemed to be everything I needed and I didn't want to hassle looking for more. In the end she was an annoying drain and I found much better sex at a much lower cost (emotionally and financially) elsewhere. Also if you try to have a GFE experience, it's difficult if the girl is banging multiple dudes before seeing you on any given day. I had another mini-relationship after this that went better but ultimately suffered the same fate. Some will argue-Senhor Vagabundo comes to mind- that the ideal is a mini-relationship with a GDP. I'm now not so sure of this- it might be better to limit them to one, perhaps two encounters per week. A whole thread could be devoted to this topic.
CIM, COF, BBBJ, BBFS, swallowing, DFK, Anal.
I was able to get raw sex, and BBFS twice in six weeks- perhaps a 5% compliance rate. Compared to the Philippines that number would be close to 85-90%. This made me very sad, and when the Philippines opens it will be hard to justify coming back to Rio where such service is not common. The good new is that BBBJ, and CIM when requested were almost always given. If CIM was not granted, COF was offered as an alternative- which I can live with. Three GDP's swallowed without any prompt on my part, which was amazing. DFK was offered at close to 85%, which is much different than SEA, where you would get perhaps 45%. I never asked for anal and was never offered, but other mongers report this scene as being positive for it.
Always ask for what you want before you go to the cabine or you will end up disappointed. Don't be shy, they don't care. If she doesn't do what you need, move on and then next one will.
ISG Wingmen.
Another difference was that ISG enabled me to meet some wingmen which made the mongering experience extremely pleasant. I recommend to everyone to reach out to other posters on the ground. Meet at Mab's and just hang out to view the talent-it's not a big deal. You don't need to be buddy buddy with everyone, but it's been great experiencing the hobby as a team sport, which I never did previously. Mongers in SEA seem to keep to themselves. Thanks to my ISG buddies, you guys know who you are. Also thanks to the posters here who provide such a great resource.
I'm headed to Colombia for the next four or five weeks- not sure I will be posting on those forums though. Brazil was overall great- but as mentioned previously, it will be difficult to pass up SEA when those countries finally open up, so I'm not sure when I will return. When I do I will have a much better lay of the land, and do things much differently.
Zebra.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2574806]Hilton is not guest-friendly.[/QUOTE]If you are getting into the Hilton price category, the JW Marriott used to be solidly guest-friendly. This was a general reputation the JWM brand had all over the world. I suppose those Mormons like their fucking. LOL.
Can any board members who have stayed at the JW Marriott in the past year confirm their guest policy?
Tack this on to my wrap up report. It should be noted that although I still consider Thailand, and the Philippines as preferential mongering locations, Rio de Janiero bests them in the category of "Downtime Activities". As one cannot monger 24/7, there need to be things to do during the day and night that are fun and interesting.
Philippines:
Angeles City in the Philippines fails miserably in this category as the only thing to do other than monger is go to the crappy nearby mall. Subic is slightly better, but in general the Philippines is very weak for downtime.
Thailand:
Similarly Pattaya is nothing special- compared to Ipanema and Copacabana, Pattaya beach is just awful, and the mess of streets inland is chaotic, dangerous, and difficult for pedestrians. There are a coupe of nearby temples but that will occupy two days at most. Bangkok is a bit better, but spending too much time in Bangkok can drain your wallet fast.
Cambodia:
Phnom Penh has some interesting landmarks, but once you check them off, you are left again with a dirty, chaotic city that is not pedestrian friendly.
Brazil:
Copacabana and Ipanema / Leblon are eminently walkable areas, and some of the best time I had was walking up the Ipanema stretch on Sundays when they close the whole street to cars and it's just pedestrian traffic and taking in the sights. There are number of destinations and tours that could keep one busy as well for a few weeks. Its just an undeniably beautiful environment.
One more data point for mongers to consider.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2574644]Not urine? That's not what WebMD says. To each his own![URL]https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-squirting-orgasm[/URL][/QUOTE]Funny, it doesn't smell nor look like urine. The jury is still out on it: "Female ejaculate is a thicker, whitish fluid that resembles very diluted milk. " [URL]https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/female-ejaculation[/URL].
Also didn't look whitish to me.
And this: "Scientific analysis of expelled fluids conducted by American sexologist Beverly Whipple in the early 1980's (and then subsequent studies by others) discovered that urea and creatine chemical constituents of pee were only present in very low levels. They also detected additional substances which you wouldn't usually expect to be present in a puddle of piddle. One of these was prostate-specific antigen, or PSA. " [URL]https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/544c5686-e3bc-4ac2-b4ca-f91eccefe441[/URL].
Who knows? Only matters that the ladies who are capable REALLY enjoy it.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2574938]Funny, it doesn't smell nor look like urine.[/QUOTE]It is cloudy and tastes like burnt rubber. Not thicker than urine at all in my opinion. Maybe it could seem that way since it is not clear. No idea what urine tastes like (unless it tastes like the same burnt rubber!)
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2574860]I have stayed at hotels all over Rio and have never had a guest issue.
Maybe some members should read this classic.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People[/URL]
Over the years I have lost track of the number of copies I have purchased for others.
In addition, suggest watching this classic paying particular attention to the manager's reference to a special customer.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ET3y4q5Os[/URL]
If you can't help being a jerk, stop. If you slither around like you have something to hide, stop. Be the guest the hotel wants and other guests would never complain about.
Most of all, stop complaining about hotels as if they are the problem.[/QUOTE]I read that book many many years ago, until this day I still try to apply some of its teachings. Some people are naturally that way, I wasn't so it was a life changing book for me.
As far as the hotel, I booked the Hilton because I saw some people commenting they never had an issue there, it might have been actually you! I try to dress well and be discreet around hotels anyways, so I think I'll take my chances and report back once I'm there in August.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2574679]Senhor Vagabundo is more or less with Spidy on this one. But Senhor Mister Enternational is right as he has the most posts, in as much, as we are interested in current intel.[/QUOTE]For those of you like, VB1 and Mr. E, with boots on the ground, I am very appreciative of the current intel you guys provide.
My question is to maybe garner insights into BMs (especailly newbies) and their interactions when they visit VM. So we know Mr E's take and that's appreciated. Perhaps he's right, but it still doesn't explain the poetic lengths some BMs take to describe VM.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2574679]Hence, as Senhor Vagabundo has suggested, we need a thread for the Literature of Prostitution.[/QUOTE]Hmmm... that idea very well could work, especially for those that wish to unleash their inner Hemingway. But I fear it would be a soon forgotten thread, with perhaps some good lost works of "artful posting". But it might address those who wish to report with a certain flair for the "over-the-top" poetic/creative writing license style.
[QUOTE=The Cane;2574679]Not talking specifically about Spidy, but I mean I'm getting tired of being bludgeoned to death with constant literary (and other) allusions. How's about just some good old, straight up, straight forward field reports like in those good days of old? Geesh! [/QUOTE]This was one of the points that I was alluding to.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a little poetic license and creative writing, which often makes for an interesting report. But personally, other times, the [i]"over-the-top" poetic license[/i], just takes away from what is otherwise, a good/great straight forward report.
Personally, I try to make short order of places that aren't to my liking and move on. Perhaps list some of my pros (if any) and cons, so others can judge for themselves and move on.
But specifically, I was just curious and wondering, [i]"Why does this poetic prose/license seem to flow from these writers, more often with reports on VM?"[/i] Or is it just me?
Many of these same writers, go on to enjoy a better, safer, cleaner and a fantastic time at the high-end clubs and venues. Where is the same level of their inner poetic Hemingway, for the high-end places, they've enjoyed way more than VM?
Hemingway/Cuba vs. ISG BM/VM, is there something to it?
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574935]Tack this on to my wrap up report. It should be noted that although I still consider Thailand, and the Philippines as preferential mongering locations, Rio de Janiero bests them in the category of "Downtime Activities". As one cannot monger 24/7, there need to be things to do during the day and night that are fun and interesting.
Philippines:
Angeles City in the Philippines fails miserably in this category as the only thing to do other than monger is go to the crappy nearby mall. Subic is slightly better, but in general the Philippines is very weak for downtime.
Thailand:
Similarly Pattaya is nothing special- compared to Ipanema and Copacabana, Pattaya beach is just awful, and the mess of streets inland is chaotic, dangerous, and difficult for pedestrians. There are a coupe of nearby temples but that will occupy two days at most. Bangkok is a bit better, but spending too much time in Bangkok can drain your wallet fast.
Cambodia:
Phnom Penh has some interesting landmarks, but once you check them off, you are left again with a dirty, chaotic city that is not pedestrian friendly.
Brazil:
Copacabana and Ipanema / Leblon are eminently walkable areas, and some of the best time I had was walking up the Ipanema stretch on Sundays when they close the whole street to cars and it's just pedestrian traffic and taking in the sights. There are number of destinations and tours that could keep one busy as well for a few weeks. Its just an undeniably beautiful environment.
One more data point for mongers to consider.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this post. When I travel my first priority is to have a traditional vacation but I also want to have some good mongering available. I was thinking about Pattaya but will now do Rio. I love the ocean. I have done Cuba, Cartagena, Cancun and Playa del Carmen. All have both. I will definitely be making my first trip to Rio when the covid situation improves there. Hopefully this winter.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2574633]With some of the recently written posts / conversions and poetic pros, comparisons to Hemingway (and the like), with regards to [B]VM[/B], it's interesting to note the strong emotional connection that a place, like VM triggers within someone to write such passionate pros.
When you consider, Hemingway love to write while in Cuba and [B]Hemingway wrote some of his best work while in Cuba[/B], a place, considered "squalled" and far "inferior" to American on so many levels. . . it begs the question, where is the same level of bluster, "poetic tales" and passion of enchantment [i]for the high-end establishments?[/i] Perhaps there are some? I don't remember any of recent memory.
What is it about VM, that brings out the Hemingway in some?[/QUOTE]I honestly don't know, what is it? In me it brings out the gag reflex, over and over again.
I don't know if Hemingway would enjoy walking down the alleys filled with the stench combination of stale urine and asscrack sweat. Or if he loved banging hookers on a mattress filled with thousands of DNA samples left by people before him. I don't doubt he did partake in something like that, but he was a war correspondent, and those were brutal times.
What's the fascination and why romanticize this squalid and terrible place, I'll never understand. As if Rio doesn't have zillions of other cheap sex options.
Any newbie should visit once, though, just to confirm they aren't missing out on a great thing.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2574860]I have stayed at hotels all over Rio and have never had a guest issue.
Maybe some members should read this classic.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People[/URL]
Over the years I have lost track of the number of copies I have purchased for others.
In addition, suggest watching this classic paying particular attention to the manager's reference to a special customer.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ET3y4q5Os[/URL]
If you can't help being a jerk, stop. If you slither around like you have something to hide, stop. Be the guest the hotel wants and other guests would never complain about.
Most of all, stop complaining about hotels as if they are the problem.[/QUOTE]They ARE a fucking problem.
If an upscale hotel doesn't want to let a hooker in to protect the hotel ambience, I totally understand. But in this case. Don't allow hookers at all.
That's not what they do, however. They let you bring a hooker and charge you extra for the privilege. Why exactly? Are they in a pimping business?
That's a scam. When you book for 2 people, you should be allowed to have 2 people in the room with no upcharge.
You're making it sound like you can walk in the door and proceed to your room with a girl on your arm as long as you're radiating confidence and not acting like a jerk. That's simply not true. Sometimes it works, and other times it doesn't. And I don't want to find out which is which. I just want to be able to use my room I paid for.
So, yes, the hotels are the problem, I'd say.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574891]Point taken. Yes, let's get back to that.[/QUOTE]Nah, let's not. I'm sure some folks here enjoy good storytelling from you and Senor Vagabondo.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2574925]If you are getting into the Hilton price category, the JW Marriott used to be solidly guest-friendly. This was a general reputation the JWM brand had all over the world. I suppose those Mormons like their fucking. LOL.
Can any board members who have stayed at the JW Marriott in the past year confirm their guest policy?[/QUOTE]My buddy stayed in JW and it was GF.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574935]Tack this on to my wrap up report. It should be noted that although I still consider Thailand, and the Philippines as preferential mongering locations, Rio de Janiero bests them in the category of "Downtime Activities". As one cannot monger 24/7, there need to be things to do during the day and night that are fun and interesting.[/QUOTE]In my mind, the only way that places like Thailand and the Philippines can be better than Brazil is if you like those Asian girls better than Brazilian girls. That's the only way that Asia can be better. And since those flat ass Asian girls are too often far too shy with their bodies for my tastes, they can [B]never ever[/B] compete with a Brasiliera tigress with those sexy curves of hers and her vixen attitude! I suppose if you got to have bareback FS then the PI wins, and if you got to have anal sex Brazil wins hands down. But all things being equal, at least for me, there's just no way the Asian girls are competitive in the sack with the Brazilian girls. Just no way! Not even close in my estimation. But hey, that's just me. Too each his own right?
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574890]I think it's the element of danger and the unknown- at least as perceived by a sheltered gringo mongers on holiday. Scandallo, etc does not provide this dramatic tension.[/QUOTE]Thank you...now that is a very interesting take, ZB81.
I guess for some, that perceived level of "danger" and the "unknown", may provide an adrenaline rush for sorts, that might also play into, a heightened level of writing. I can see that.
[QUOTE=Xpatan;2574975]...but he was a war correspondent, and those were brutal times.[/QUOTE]Xpartan, now that, Hemingway as a war correspondent, does [B]dovetail nicely[/B] and rather well with ZB81's explanation and does provide a very plausible answer to my question(s).
Interesting! Food for thought, anyways!
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2574925]If you are getting into the Hilton price category, the JW Marriott used to be solidly guest-friendly. This was a general reputation the JWM brand had all over the world. I suppose those Mormons like their fucking. LOL.
Can any board members who have stayed at the JW Marriott in the past year confirm their guest policy?[/QUOTE]I always stay at the JW in Copa and I can confirm it is girl friendly. I always book 2 guests in my reservation so when I bring one back, they never say anything at night. Now, if you bring one back during the day and she stays with you, you have to register her. You can bring another one if you want later but you have to de-register the first one and register the other one. You can have 3 guests in your reservation in a suite only.
They might charge you an extra guest charge if you bring two girls in your normal room. I am not too sure about that but will confirm on my next trip down in August.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574890]I think it's the element of danger and the unknown- at least as perceived by a sheltered gringo mongers on holiday. Scandallo, etc does not provide this dramatic tension.[/QUOTE]Vila Mimosa lends itself to literary comparisons.
In addition to the perceived danger for foreign interlopers, raw and unbridled sexuality is on display amongst the squalor and decay. A place where the poor working man can afford to satisfy his sexual needs. Where a woman with very few options in society can scratch out an existence.
There are no pretenses in Vila Mimosa, but the scene is powerfully evocative.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2574983]In my mind, the only way that places like Thailand and the Philippines can be better than Brazil is if you like those Asian girls better than Brazilian girls. That's the only way that Asia can be better. And since those flat ass Asian girls are too often far too shy with their bodies for my tastes, they can [B]never ever[/B] compete with a Brasiliera tigress with those sexy curves of hers and her vixen attitude! I suppose if you got to have bareback FS then the PI wins, and if you got to have anal sex Brazil wins hands down. But all things being equal, at least for me, there's just no way the Asian girls are competitive in the sack with the Brazilian girls. Just no way! Not even close in my estimation. But hey, that's just me. Too each his own right?[/QUOTE]This makes total sense to me- an Assman who values performance and attitude will no doubt prefer Brazil. My tastes are different and it's a good thing that we all have different tastes!
But this post made me think of a question that perhaps you, having experience of both (or others) could answer. One of the annoying things about SEA is the sheer volume of Western Mongers-who's presence and ubiquity irritates (I know I am one of them but nonetheless). Conversely, during my time here, I have seen very few Gringo mongers- most of the customers at Terma's etc being local guys. The girls have confirmed this as well. The thing is, I don't know if this is a natural state of affairs or on account of the COVID and travel difficulties.
If it is true that there are naturally less gringo mongers in Brazil, that would be another strike in favor of it's eminence on the International Stage.
Conversely, one could argue that the fact that Thailand, PH, cater to the foreign crowd does bring with it certain benefits.
So I would ask the group, how strange is it now that there are so few foreign mongers on the ground? If nothing else, the sustained local demand means there will not be a supply shock when tourism resumes.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2574692]I stayed in Centro last week at the IBIS hotel and had an issue with management and guests. I had one girl over two nights in a row and on the 2nd night they told her that I had to pat 42 reais for having her stay the night. I went downstairs to speak to the receptionist to find out what the problem was and she said there is a 21 R charge per night for a guest. I explained that I had reserved for 2 but she said I would have to speak to the manager in the morning. I told her I wasnt going to speak to anyone and that I would check out of the hotel at the end of the week and never book there again.
1 hour later my phone rang and it was the receptionist explaining that she found the problem. Because I didn't reserve a room on Ibis website and instead used [URL]booking.com[/URL], it didn't show up in Ibis system that I had reserved for 2 people. She admitted she made a mistake and said she would put something in the computer so I could get my money back in the morning.
Now I only had One girl over to the hotel last week, so I don't know how this is going to work next week when I plan to have a nightly guest. I guess I will have to be VERY fucking specific when I ask about the guest policy, or maybe I should just get an apartment instead.[/QUOTE]This is one of the reasons I rent an apartment during my recreational international trips.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574910]Phone.
I enrolled in google fi and bought two cheap (relatively) Motorola phones before arrival. With google fi your phone / internet will work just about anywhere in the world and this is convenient coming off the plane, etc. My monger whatsapp and social media all silo'd on this phone as well so it doesn't pollute my real life.
Zebra.[/QUOTE]Google Fi is indeed international calling / data / roaming done simply and cheaply. Hands down the easiest, most cost-effective mobile plan I have used in my domestic and international travels. Don't leave home without it.
Hemingway's novel, For Whom the Bell Tolls is about Robert Jordan, an American professor who advises one side in a 3 sided (fascists, communists, nationalists) civil war, who for 4 days is fucking a former raped prostitute, Maria, who is his love interest, and is based upon his 1937-1940 in Spain with Margaret Gellhorn, who he met in Key West, where he was on his second marriage with a strict catholic woman with whom he had kids. Gellhorn, a Jewish, smart, war correspondent who was a better writer, wrecked his home, and took him to war where he was whoring along with the rest of the expats.
Sound familiar?
I'd have to say, Hemingway probably would have liked a visit to Vila Mimosa to get his cost per fuck at 70 reais, but then he would do most of his fucking in centro prives and termas like 4 x4 and in barra termas like Paris and Perola, since barra is the Miami of Brazil, and Hem liked Key West and Cuba, where he spent a good deal of time on his boat, hunting German submarines; he did earn a Bronze Star for actual combat against the Germans in the invasion of France.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2574975]I don't know if Hemingway would enjoy walking down the alleys filled with the stench combination of stale urine and asscrack sweat. Or if he loved banging hookers on a mattress filled with thousands of DNA samples left by people before him. I don't doubt he did partake in something like that, but he was a war correspondent, and those were brutal times.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574910]I'm headed to Colombia for the next four or five weeks- not sure I will be posting on those forums though. Brazil was overall great- but as mentioned previously, it will be difficult to pass up SEA when those countries finally open up, so I'm not sure when I will return. When I do I will have a much better lay of the land, and do things much differently.
Zebra.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your firsthand experiences (good and bad) and your insights.
While I have stayed at apartments rented from agents, individuals and AirBnB, I also have spent months at hotels. Truth may be that sometimes I like all the kissing up.
Safe travels. The Rio Forum has been a better place because of your contributions.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2574972]Thanks for this post. When I travel my first priority is to have a traditional vacation but I also want to have some good mongering available. I was thinking about Pattaya but will now do Rio. I love the ocean. I have done Cuba, Cartagena, Cancun and Playa del Carmen. All have both. I will definitely be making my first trip to Rio when the covid situation improves there. Hopefully this winter.[/QUOTE]Just to add a little to this topic. They have re-done the beach in Pattaya now. It's not good but passable, although don't go in the water. However there are good beaches and swimmable water a short ferry boat or private charter boat ride away. It won't compete with all of the spots you've listed but can with Cartagena.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2574983]In my mind, the only way that places like Thailand and the Philippines can be better than Brazil is if you like those Asian girls better than Brazilian girls. That's the only way that Asia can be better. And since those flat ass Asian girls are too often far too shy with their bodies for my tastes, they can [B]never ever[/B] compete with a Brasiliera tigress with those sexy curves of hers and her vixen attitude! I suppose if you got to have bareback FS then the PI wins, and if you got to have anal sex Brazil wins hands down. But all things being equal, at least for me, there's just no way the Asian girls are competitive in the sack with the Brazilian girls. Just no way! Not even close in my estimation. But hey, that's just me. Too each his own right?[/QUOTE]I agree with your assessment as a vistor, however after living here the Thai ladies can compete with anyone in the world. I know you won't believe me, but I've posted about this before. It took me some time to be able to learn how to get the most out of these shy Asian girls. I haven't been to Brazil in 18 months, but I haven't forgotten the ease of finding hot Brasiliera tigresses as you put it. Now if anal is your thing Brazil wins hands down bar none. I have to admit at 72 years old I'm not into multi-hour fuck sessions but for shorter sessions or long time with sex at night and again in the morning these girls can be very sweet.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2575124]I agree with your assessment as a vistor, however after living here the Thai ladies can compete with anyone in the world. I know you won't believe me, but I've posted about this before. It took me some time to be able to learn how to get the most out of these shy Asian girls. I haven't been to Brazil in 18 months, but I haven't forgotten the ease of finding hot Brasiliera tigresses as you put it. Now if anal is your thing Brazil winds hands down bar none. I have to admit at 72 years old I'm not into multi-hour fuck sessions but for shorter sessions or long time with sex at night and again in the morning these girls can be very sweet.[/QUOTE]Even when I was just a visitor, my experience in Thailand was the total opposite of Cane's. None of my paid or unpaid chicks are shy. None have flat asses. Several like anal. I did not have to learn anything. Been doing the same thing since day 1; just being myself. The paid ones get 1000 baht ($30) for all night. Nobody rushes to leave. I usually have to put them out when I am ready to get my day started. It is like we have been to 2 different Thailands. Now Philippines can go to hell and I go there often. Those are the chicks that are built like plywood boards.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2575129]Even when I was just a visitor, my experience in Thailand was the total opposite of Cane's. None of my paid or unpaid chicks are shy. None have flat asses. Several like anal. I did not have to learn anything. Been doing the same thing since day 1; just being myself. The paid ones get 1000 baht ($30) for all night. Nobody rushes to leave. I usually have to put them out when I am ready to get my day started. It is like we have been to 2 different Thailands. Now Philippines can go to hell and I go there often. Those are the chicks that are built like plywood boards.[/QUOTE]Yes but everyone knows there is only ONE Mr Enternational 555. I never could compete with you and I wouldn't even try. I know what works for me and I'm equally happy in Thailand and Brazil. I choose to live in Bangkok for a number of reasons but continue to visit multiple cities in Thailand and travel the world. I have an 11 year old son in Brazil so I visit him often (obviously not during Covid).
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2575124]I agree with your assessment as a visitor, however after living here the Thai ladies can compete with anyone in the world. I know you won't believe me.[/QUOTE]No I don't, and especially when it comes to body types. As a matter of fact, that's not simply a matter of what I "believe", but what I "know". Now, somebody can post a picture here and there that breaks the mold, but East Asian women aren't world-renowned for their tits and ass with curvy figures, and there's a reason for that. I've seen literally thousands and thousands and thousands of Asian women with my very own eyes, and I know for a fact that generally speaking they don't have the kind of bodies that I desire. Another big thing for me is the face. The face is extremely important to me, and I just don't find most of their faces to be attractive. And I can't get to them hind parts if I can't get past that face! If I see 100 Asian women, I might give consideration to only about 10, with only 3 or 4 ultimately making my cut. I'm just not attracted to Asian women. I don't like most of their bodies and faces.
I suppose I can see how they might warm up to you emotionally and not be so "shy" and agree to "A-level" (anal) more often if you're a regular (like you and Mr. E) verus a visitor like me, but those bodies and faces aren't a changing! I will never return to Asia to monger ever again. It's simply not worth it to me since I don't find enough attractive women to suit my tastes. I mean I went 72 hours in Pattaya once (ground zero for mongering in Thailand) without fucking anybody! Couldn't find anybody I liked. Totally unheard of for me anywhere else in the world I have been to, and that's a lot of places! Kojax in Manila was hitting on all cylinders when I was in the PI, but that was about it! I want to add that I don't have anything against Asian people. It's just that not much sexual attraction is there for me. It's a personal thing. For me, the Asian girls will never be able to compete with the Latinas or the white girls. That's just me.
I got it free in Pattya but I was a buck fresh off the boat on libo from the swiss navy.
But callsign vagabundo like senhor Cain needs Latinas.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2575182]No I don't, and especially when it comes to body types. As a matter of fact, that's not simply a matter of what I "believe", but what I "know". Now, somebody can post a picture here and there that breaks the mold, but East Asian women aren't world-renowned for their tits and ass with curvy figures, and there's a reason for that. I've seen literally thousands and thousands and thousands of Asian women with my very own eyes, and I know for a fact that generally speaking they don't have the kind of bodies that I desire. Another big thing for me is the face. The face is extremely important to me, and I just don't find most of their faces to be attractive. And I can't get to them hind parts if I can't get past that face! If I see 100 Asian women, I might give consideration to only about 10, with only 3 or 4 ultimately making my cut. I'm just not attracted to Asian women. I don't like most of their bodies and faces.
I suppose I can see how they might warm up to you emotionally and not be so "shy" and agree to "A-level" (anal) more often if you're a regular (like you and Mr. E) verus a visitor like me, but those bodies and faces aren't a changing! I will never return to Asia to monger ever again. It's simply not worth it to me since I don't find enough attractive women to suit my tastes. I mean I went 72 hours in Pattaya once (ground zero for mongering in Thailand) without fucking anybody! Couldn't find anybody I liked. Totally unheard of for me anywhere else in the world I have been to, and that's a lot of places! Kojax in Manila was hitting on all cylinders when I was in the PI, but that was about it! I want to add that I don't have anything against Asian people. It's just that not much sexual attraction is there for me. It's a personal thing. For me, the Asian girls will never be able to compete with the Latinas or the white girls. That's just me.[/QUOTE]
Woke up to fucking a girl bare to Ana foxxx videos.
Groundhog day.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2575182]but East Asian women aren't world-renowned for their tits and ass with curvy figures,[/QUOTE]Totally agree, but Thailand is an anomaly in Asia. Just like people can say White chicks are not known for their big asses, but like I tell people that have never been to Brazil, White chicks there have bigger asses than Black ones; another anamoly.
I am a hips and ass man. If there were not chicks with ass then I certainly would not be around there. Maybe it is where you shop. I am not talking about chicks in gogo bars. You are not going to find chicks with big asses there. I am talking about discos, markets, and chicks just out and about. You can find them on Soi 6 as well.
I could not resist chiming in on this debate especially having hobbied significantly in Asia and Latin America among other regions. I would be surprised to hear anyone who is widely travelled to state that Brazilian women do not have the best bodies in the world. For me it is a no brainer and end of discussion. That being said I often find it very difficult to decide which place is better for mongering. Sometimes I think Brazil, other times I think Thailand. Right now I'm leaning towards Thailand. I like the Thai face. There are Thai women with delicious asses but they're different from Brazilian's, they may be big but the shape is different and not as sexy. What makes me lean towards Thailand for mongering now is the safety issue and the general agreeableness of the country for tourists. Of course the best mongering in the world for me is Germany but I would not live there for the expense and winter. I would not want to leave a country with winter to retire to one with it.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2575247]I could not resist chiming in on this debate especially having hobbied significantly in Asia and Latin America among other regions. I would be surprised to hear anyone who is widely travelled to state that Brazilian women do not have the best bodies in the world. For me it is a no brainer and end of discussion. That being said I often find it very difficult to decide which place is better for mongering. Sometimes I think Brazil, other times I think Thailand. Right now I'm leaning towards Thailand. I like the Thai face. There are Thai women with delicious asses but they're different from Brazilian's, they may be big but the shape is different and not as sexy. What makes me lean towards Thailand for mongering now is the safety issue and the general agreeableness of the country for tourists. Of course the best mongering in the world for me is Germany but I would not live there for the expense and winter. I would not want to leave a country with winter to retire to one with it.[/QUOTE]Guess it is time to give up on this ever really being a Thread for Rio de Janeiro Reports.
How about Russian or Czech women? One of my personal favorite are Mongolians. Great bodies and still an element of fine Asian features.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2575036]I'd have to say, Hemingway probably would have liked a visit to Vila Mimosa to get his cost per fuck at 70 reais, but then he would do most of his fucking in centro prives and termas like 4 x4 and in barra termas like Paris and Perola, since barra is the Miami of Brazil, and Hem liked Key West and Cuba, where he spent a good deal of time on his boat.................[/QUOTE]The Key West of Hemingway's days no longer exists. It's overrun with tourists and the cruise ship crowd. Gentrified beyond recognition.
I'm also not sure he would recognize the current dilapidated state of Cuba. It's gone to the opposite extreme of gentrification.
Hemingway surely would've liked Barra. In fact, I can see him right now at the Transamerica pool drinking a daiquiri. He probably would have owned a unit.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574679]...If it is true that there are naturally less gringo mongers in Brazil, that would be another strike in favor of it's eminence on the International Stage.
Conversely, one could argue that the fact that Thailand, PH, cater to the foreign crowd does bring with it certain benefits. [/QUOTE]As far as, [I]"eminence on the International Stage"[/I], if you're referring to Brazil as being the premier mongering destination, well I think Thailand has always held that dubious honor. I don't think Brazil has never had the mongering numbers to compete or rival, that of Thailand. Premier destination for the best sex, on the other hand is a different story.
Sheer numbers w/r to peek mongering in Brazil, was maybe 2000 to 2004 and a little less so, in 2005 to 2008. There is no one correct answer to the best place to monger or retire (w/mongering in mind). It naturally comes down to personal preferences and choices. It's also interesting to note, that mongerers, my have a different preference, based upon where they are in life.
As some BMs have recently said, they like Brazil, the women, the sex...etc, but it seems later in life, have chosen to settle in Thailand. And some would no longer consider Thailand at any future stage of life.
Without a doubt, Brazilian women have the best bodies. In my opinion, Thai women have the best bodies in Asia. Without researching scientific studies, they are a bit taller and generally a bit curvier than other Asian populations. Some believe this has to due with sharing some DNA with the Indian subcontinent. If you don't care for Asian women, this probably ain't going to make much difference to you.
Brazil also offers a lot of variety. There are obviously various ethnic and racial groups well represented. There is also every type of body size and shape. There is always one newbie in our crew who is worried that Brazilian women are too big in the bunda for him. We explain to them that there are many skinny girls in Brazil. There are short spinner types running around.
Spidy is right. 2000-2004 appeared to be Brazil's peak for foreign mongers. 2005-2008 were also good years. This might be a Rio-centric perspective during the days of Help Disco. Locals who can easily navigate the scene might find not much has changed in Brazil. However, Sao Paulo seemed to have many, many incredible escorts in the early 2000's.
I can see why older Americans and Europeans choose to retire in Thailand. I think its less stressful than living in Rio (or Sao Paulo). It might also be cheaper. Whether in reality it is true, the perception is Thai women are more passive and reserved. Thai people restrain their tempers, but I'm sure Thai women can be difficult and display passive-aggressive tendencies.
Indeed.
I have been thinking of buying one.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2575255]Hemingway surely would've liked Barra. In fact, I can see him right now at the Transamerica pool drinking a daiquiri. He probably would have owned a unit.[/QUOTE]
Tonight, Vagabundo fucked codename Anne Amari in 116. Cost was 80 reais. Bravo was a wingman. Totally hot little 22 yo, no kids, best ass, best little titties, best pretty mouth, from Belfort Roxo. Working on getting her out of the club, which was hopping at 18 h, no rooms were available, but we got into the room and fucked for 15 of the 30 minutes, then vibed. All was good. Wow what a body for just like 80 reais, which is 16 USD. Poxa Caralho eita.
Before that Bravo and Vagabundo reckoned 4 x4 for the 50 entrada. The english speaking woman there, her name is Eliana, had alerted Vagabundo that a concubine recruit had showed up, so Vagabundo went in and vibed with the loira, a perfect 18 yo from Jacaparagua, which vagabundo designates confidential informant 1. Also got a number for a smoking hot negra, 20 yo, has a kid, but will clearly be a BBFS concubine, and so pretty, have to take her to arrail for pictures. Vagabundo designates the negra confidential informant 69.
Vagabundo had a pernoite, popped twice today, with monique, who was taken to the pool for capuccino and misto quente, and then to posto 6 on the beach for pasteis and caiprihinhas. On the way back, the cops did stop our hero and his concubine, and they found a half smoked joint on codename Monique, but Vagabundo asked for the consulate in perfect Swiss Romanch (latin), and the cops gave up, and let our heros go.
Vagabundo paid monique 300.
The previous night another friend of Monique's had done pernoite for 350 r plus uber. BBFS, multiple pops, but she tried to upsell, and Vagabundo just put on cloths, and ejected her. Too bad, a nice 20 yo negra pussy, but it is not the only one in Rio. Vagabundo had been doing a 1. 5 hour Zoom call in English, so he was a chato.
Vagabundo is enjoying the Hemingway literary club as well.
Monger on fellas.
Let's have the Sex Olympics.
Fighting Fucking and Futbol.
Fuck in Motel Malaga.
Run through a gauntlet of enemy snipers to Maracana.
Play one on one naked soccer.
Send the best teams in the world.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2575282]As far as, [I]"eminence on the International Stage"[/I], if you're referring to Brazil as being the premier mongering destination, well I think Thailand has always held that dubious honor. I don't think Brazil has never had the mongering numbers to compete or rival, that of Thailand. Premier destination for the best sex, on the other hand is a different story.
Sheer numbers w/r to peek mongering in Brazil, was maybe 2000 to 2004 and a little less so, in 2005 to 2008. There is no one correct answer to the best place to monger or retire (w/mongering in mind). It naturally comes down to personal preferences and choices. It's also interesting to note, that mongerers, my have a different preference, based upon where they are in life.
As some BMs have recently said, they like Brazil, the women, the sex...etc, but it seems later in life, have chosen to settle in Thailand. And some would no longer consider Thailand at any future stage of life.[/QUOTE]
Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.
1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.
2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.
3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.
4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.
5) How is Tinder in Rio? I'm 41 in great shape (not to sound like I'm full of my self but lets face it that matters sometimes) I have great luck with meeting girls in my own city in the US and even non working girls while I was in Thailand. I'm hoping I can meet a regular girl to show me around or even a working girl if she doesn't charge me $400 a day. I'm thinking my lack of Portuguese my cause me to strike out there.
6) ok last question. When I went to Thailand for the first time there was a line group to meet up with other board members who were there at the same time. Anything like that for Brazil on line or whatapp?
Ok please don't rip on me to hard for asking newbie questions, I really did do hours of reading before I made this post and after my trip I will make a first time trip report to help out other new guys.
Thanks!
Indeed, Vagabundo concurs.
Vagabundo hereby challenges Zebrastripes to co-author "Hemingway v Conrad in Rio" a forthcoming novel.
Kind of like Blues Brothers 2: men in black in Rio de Janeiro.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2575064]Thanks for sharing your firsthand experiences (good and bad) and your insights.
While I have stayed at apartments rented from agents, individuals and AirBnB, I also have spent months at hotels. Truth may be that sometimes I like all the kissing up.
Safe travels. The Rio Forum has been a better place because of your contributions.[/QUOTE]
I've seen no update on the price of coconut in Copacabana. If you live in Estação Vila Militar, in Zona Oeste, your coconuts will be cold. They had the lowest temperature in 10 years, 8,7°see.
[URL]https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/2021/07/6180021-rio-registra-a-madrugada-mais-fria-em-10-anos.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574910]Phone.
I enrolled in google fi and bought two cheap (relatively) Motorola phones before arrival. With google fi your phone / internet will work just about anywhere in the world and this is convenient coming off the plane, etc. My monger whatsapp and social media all silo'd on this phone as well so it doesn't pollute my real life.
Airbnb / Hotel.
I stayed at 3 airbnb's over the 6 weeks and had no trouble at all bringing in ladies. No questions asked by the door ever. Ever. I need to do laundry, like to have a kitchen, and don't need someone to make my bed every morning, so I'm not sure what the draw of a hotel would even be considering all the hassles it seems to be causing. My first two weeks were in Copa, then I got wise and moved to Ipanema, where I stayed for a month, 3 weeks of which at a discount rate by paying cash directly to the renter.[/QUOTE]Solid Report and Advice.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2575299]... There is always one newbie in our crew who is worried that Brazilian women are too big in the bunda for him....[/QUOTE]For any newbie who likes anal Brazil is a windfall. Nothing more lustful than f..king a big bunda garota in the ass.
Last time I checked in, I had tried out some expensive Tier 1 termas (MC and Centaurus) to great success. Since then, I visited Solarium and 4 x4 as well. While there weren't any squirting orgasms, I will still say that the service was pretty good. Overall, I had no complaints with the attractiveness of the girls or their service. I even went back to Centaurus to account for the variance of how otherworldly my first time there was and I had another great experience, though not as good as the first. In my view, at the tier 1 termas, I would recommend hitting them up around the time that the Brazilian workday ends (seems 6-7 pm is a good time). I never had an issue finding girls I liked in the 7-8/10 range. I saw a few girls that were in the 9/10 but there were getting gobbled up constantly by other guys so it may be hard to time things with those girls. In terms of cost, I felt that Centaurus was way too expensive in retrospect since the other termas provide similar value for a few hundred less Real. But, I did have one of best experiences of the trip there so I can't complain.
Jady.
As part of first post, I told you all about the amazing experience I had at Centaurus with a woman named Morena (later gave me her real name of Jady). I really liked our chemistry so I got her Whatsapp and she visited me twice more for some fun pernoites. It's always great to spend time with WG where you question if she actually really likes you (remember, its her job so don't take it too seriously). Eating companion, interesting life story, cuddling while watching netflix, and mindblowing sex; definitely a few great nights. We never talked about price during the night but I ended up giving her 500 per night before she would leave. I'm sure some will say I overpaid, but I feel that is a perfect amount for a real pernoite (not just a night / morning 2 banger).
Prives.
Alright, here is where I can preface everything by stating that this is MY OPINION. I read a lot of posts here extolling the virtues of the prives and cheap termas. They talked of grand journeys to find the hidden diamond that would cost you half what you paid at the tier 1 termas. What they failed to truly mention is that it really is a journey. I'm sorry but the quality of the girls was noticeably worse than the good termas. Even worse in my view were the amenities. You are talking about tiny phonebooths for doing the deed and overall rubbish bedding. I tried guys, I really tried. I ended up sampling at Onix Terapia (more on that later) and at a Centro terma with a lower level co-worker and I just couldn't enjoy. I prefer not to be reminded of the abject povert many WGs face while we pinch pennies or how bad working conditions can be. And that shouldn't be surprising when you are paying the equivalent of 30-50 USD for a nut. If you want good amenities and simplicity, I'd recommend one of the tier 1 termas (not Centaurus unless you want to shell out even more). Their facilities were passably good and comparable / slightly better than most average fishbowls in Bangkok. In terms of service, I will say that it was pretty good. The girls are not as into it and the veneer of authenticity is much more transparent, but the service was good, nonetheless.
Onix Terapia.
I just wanted to note that I tried out Vitoria due to her good reviews by others and I would 100% agree with the assessment. She is one of the few girls in that side of the game that spoke good English and she looked great. It is an absolute shame that she is working at those facilities instead of playing at the online game. She could easily pass for a BarraVips girl and definitely has that capability. I never got her number and I have no interest in going back but if any of you ever go there, I'd give her the advice to pay for a photoshoot, put "english speaker" on her profile, and rake in the cash. But maybe she goes for the simpler high volume, lazy bang you can get away with at the prives.
Online Escorts.
For someone like myself, I found my sweet spot in the online game. I am staying at Pestana and I have no problem bringing these girls in. Hell, they have come straight to my door without me even having to leave the room. No fuss, no extra costs, just a simple validation call to your room from the girls to make sure you are there. I was never quoted more than 500 R / HR which seems to be a fair price for 9-10/10 level girls. They give fantastic service and you can enjoy it in your own room. For the online escorts, use GPArena to read Brazilian reviews. It's a great way to ensure you are not picking a dud and I never had one bad experience. A special note, it took me awhile to hit up Julie Prado on BarraVips but this girl was probably my favorite. To me, she is 10/10 and really went wild. She doesn't speak a lick of English and rarely responds to Spanish speakers because she is normally very, very busy from Brazilian customers. So she may not respond to you in a timely fashion and probably won't respond at all if you text in English.
Extra Thoughts.
There has been a running debate between Thailand or Brazil and I don't really care to think about it because the women are so different in looks. I like both so I think it best to hit up both on rotation. I do find Rio more enjoyable as a destination because of the beach and weather (Thailand feels super muggy sometimes). The only caveat is that Rio really doesn't cater to tourists in the way that SEA does. By no means are tourists not liked or unable to get around, but English is not very common here. In SEA, most service workers understand some level of English so it is easy to feel comfortable. This even extends to the WGs since Rio seems to have a pretty vibrant local community. Essentially, a sizable portion of the high quality talent in Rio had no English knowledge which means you are probably not getting in the door there. It's not like Japan with the racism (nothing is that bad), but it does feel like there is a gap in Rio for foreign mongers due to language and their own local community that supports the top talent. I came down for a bit of work and was taken by banking industry co-workers to a "local" terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water. Suffice it to say that the women were model / porn actress level with an associated price tag to boot. Some of our more frugal members here would be convulsing in anger but it was definitely a great experience if you have the money and the "in" to get into the door. That whole story was mostly just to highlight a major difference I see in Rio compared to SEA or the US, top level talent advertises openly and are available to anyone who can pay.
1.) Ask the airbnb host directly before booking.
2.) $2 to $5 USD depending on time of day.
3.) Get the address ahead of time and look for the numbers on the buildings when walking past.
4.) No, I used BarraVIP exclusively in Rio but Private55 is also generally reliable. R500 for an hour. Top tier girls in the city for the most part.
5.) Tinder is great in Rio. Say you're an (insert nationality here) in Rio for a long time and maybe add some dollar signs if you're looking for pros, remove the dollar signs if you aren't. I met many non-pros in Rio, mostly at bars though.
6.) There's a member on the board who runs a WhatsApp group for meetups. If you post decent reports on ground he may reach out to add you.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2575398]Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.
1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.
2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.
3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.
4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.
5) How is Tinder in Rio? I'm 41 in great shape (not to sound like I'm full of my self but lets face it that matters sometimes) I have great luck with meeting girls in my own city in the US and even non working girls while I was in Thailand. I'm hoping I can meet a regular girl to show me around or even a working girl if she doesn't charge me $400 a day. I'm thinking my lack of Portuguese my cause me to strike out there.
6) ok last question. When I went to Thailand for the first time there was a line group to meet up with other board members who were there at the same time. Anything like that for Brazil on line or whatapp?
Ok please don't rip on me to hard for asking newbie questions, I really did do hours of reading before I made this post and after my trip I will make a first time trip report to help out other new guys.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2575653]I read a lot of posts here extolling the virtues of the prives and cheap termas. They talked of grand journeys to find the hidden diamond that would cost you half what you paid at the tier 1 termas. What they failed to truly mention is that it really is a journey. I'm sorry but the quality of the girls was noticeably worse than the good termas. Even worse in my view were the amenities. You are talking about tiny phonebooths for doing the deed and overall rubbish bedding. I tried guys, I really tried.[/QUOTE]No worries, nobody expects a newbie to be able to find gems in privées. Nobody said it was going to be simple. Some mongers, the "high-rollers", go to T1 termas and do their thing. Pay expensive and think they hit the jackpot. Other mongers hit the privées. Try out a few and find the result satisfying. To really find the gems, the perfect fresh newbies with 10 points bodies that starts their career in a simple privé, this takes hard work.
Some days can pass without I meeting any gems. Then suddenly I strike a small, no famous privê, with a bunch of perfect gems. Then it's time to act. Try them all out in a few days and get phone numbers. God knows I entered privées with several newbie gems, tried one and the next time the others are gone to some exclusive casa. My preference are those who GPS that started the same day as I visit the privê. As being the first customer it's good to be to gentle and show your appreciation. These girls will never forget their first customer.
Sorry for interrupting the veterantalk. Carry on!
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2575677]1.) Ask the airbnb host directly before booking.
2.) $2 to $5 USD depending on time of day.
3.) Get the address ahead of time and look for the numbers on the buildings when walking past.
4.) No, I used BarraVIP exclusively in Rio but Private55 is also generally reliable. R500 for an hour. Top tier girls in the city for the most part.
5.) Tinder is great in Rio. Say you're an (insert nationality here) in Rio for a long time and maybe add some dollar signs if you're looking for pros, remove the dollar signs if you aren't. I met many non-pros in Rio, mostly at bars though.
6.) There's a member on the board who runs a WhatsApp group for meetups. If you post decent reports on ground he may reach out to add you.[/QUOTE]Hi mate,
Also a newbie here. And also looking threw a lot of pages and doing searches but can't find the info I'm looking for.
I'm used to Thailand but I'll be going to Brazil next year instead because of Thailand being tooo fucked up ATM.
But when I'm in Thailand I prefer all nighters (LT) instead of short time (ST) but there I know the prices and so on.
But can't really find it here.
So what is the average price span if I want to take a girl and spend the night with her?
And of course I understand that it can be a lot of difference but in a ballpark area.
Going to stay a month in Brazil and thinking about 2-3 weeks in Rio and maybe one week in Patel or what's it called up north.
Best regards.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2575398]Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.
1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.
2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.
3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.
4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.[/QUOTE]1. If that's your hotel budget and you want to stay at a nice place, stay at JW Marriott. It seems no one has had any problems bringing back guests there.
2. Everyone should figure out the subway. Google Maps will tell you where to get on and where to get off. Later in the evening, avoid the subway.
3. Mongers in Thailand would say "TIT" This is Thailand. Well TIB. Brazilian sex venues don't have flashy signs implying girls and / or sex is available. Many times the door front is very discreet. Massage places? The main deal is prives although terapeuticas might offer sex without spelling that out. Many don't offer sexual intercourse. Prives are usually in office buildings and not always well-marked. You need to know the room number so you don't roam around floors knocking on random office doors.
4. Avoid PhotoAcompanhantes.
Let us remember that he shot himself in the end! Not the way to go. Better to go while solidly planted between a tute's soft, lotioned legs! The Hemingway stuff only should go so far.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2575399]Indeed, Vagabundo concurs.
Vagabundo hereby challenges Zebrastripes to co-author "Hemingway v Conrad in Rio" a forthcoming novel.
Kind of like Blues Brothers 2: men in black in Rio de Janeiro.[/QUOTE]Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.
Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.
Zebra.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2575653]Last time I checked in, I had tried out some expensive Tier 1 termas (MC and Centaurus) to great success. Since then, I visited Solarium and 4 x4 as well. Overall, I had no complaints with the attractiveness of the girls or their service. I even went back to Centaurus to account for the variance of how otherworldly my first time there was and I had another great experience, though not as good as the first. In my view, at the tier 1 termas, I would recommend hitting them up around the time that the Brazilian workday ends (seems 6-7 pm is a good time). I never had an issue finding girls I liked in the 7-8/10 range.
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Jady.
As part of first post, I told you all about the amazing experience I had at Centaurus with a woman named Morena (later gave me her real name of Jady). I really liked our chemistry so I got her Whatsapp and she visited me twice more for some fun pernoites. It's always great to spend time with WG where you question if she actually really likes you (remember, its her job so don't take it too seriously). Eating companion, interesting life story, cuddling while watching netflix, and mindblowing sex; definitely a few great nights. We never talked about price during the night but I ended up giving her 500 per night before she would leave. I'm sure some will say I overpaid, but I feel that is a perfect amount for a real pernoite (not just a night / morning 2 banger).[/QUOTE]Hey theDerilious,
I enjoyed reading your RJ retrospective. It reminded a lot of my own recent trip experiences. For example, I too had a wonderful in-house session with Morena (Jady) at Centaurus. I would have liked seeing her again at my hotel, but unfortunately, I ran out of trip time. We are still in touch, so maybe I will see her again when I return to RJ in October.
I whole heartedly agree with your assessment on RJ Termas. I liked Solarium the best and went their 3 times. Ha Ha. But I am looking forward to checking out MC and 4 x 4 next time. I also went to Black Pearl, a favorite of an RJ expat BM, but either I went there too early or the place is not very good because the quality was not there, and neither were very many customers when I was there on a Saturday night just after the lockdown ended.
There was only a week while I was in RJ that the Prive's were officially open, so I chose to go to only 1 Prive by the name of RJMassagem in Barra. I choose RJMassagem because they were basically the only establishment I saw with good looking girls on their website. [URL]https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/team-barra-da-tijuca/[/URL].
I had a passionate Nuru session with Clara, but to my surprise, it turned out that RJMassagem is not a full service (vaginal sex) prive, only a massage and BJ happy ending place. Clara was great, however, and I had her over at my hotel 2 days later where we consummated our relationship. Ha Ha. Check out their internet site and see if any of the girls interest you. Based on my experience you will have to go through a 2-stage process, but it might be worth it to you if you want to do the girl.
Since I was in RJ and SP in April mostly during the lockdown, I spent a lot of time with Barra Vips girls in RJ and MClass call girls in SP. Again, I concur with your report that these sites have great lookers who provide outstanding service. 500 br is too much considering the quality. I can highly recommend Barra VIP girls Monique Costa, Duda Freitas, and Yasmine Moraes. My favorite call girl or my trip, however, was an MClass girl in SP who calls herself Jheny Gauchinha. What a gal! I am looking forward to seeing her again many times.
Anyway, I wanted to communicate directly with you, but your PM function is not working. It sounds like you had a great time. I had such a good time that I have already booked a return trip to Brazil for October. Thailand will have to wait for 2022 when I hope they get their shit together and everything will be open again.
One last thing: what was the name of the "local terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water" that you mentioned in your report? I would really like to go there and check it out.
NB.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2575398]2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.
3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.[/QUOTE][B]2)[/B] The Metro Rio, is probably way easier to navigate than either the (nightmare of a sytem, that is the) Tokyo Metro Subway system (believe me) or the London Underground and isn't hard as you might think, even with Portuguese nomenclature (unlike Tokyo...urrgh!) .
Urber / Taxis are fine and good way to talk with the local Cariocas. Metro Rio is a totally cool way of getting to know the city, if you're solo or not. Zone Sul locations (Barra, Leblon, Ipanema, Copa or Leme), just take LINE #1 or #4 all the way to 1 of four (4) centro stations (Cinelandia, Carioca, Uruguaiana or Presidente Vargas).
Most prives, boates, termas and P4P destinations can be found within walking distance of these four (4) centro stations. For a fist timer, you should be fine during the day. Use your own judgement at night.
Sometimes I've often used the metro system of city to get me to the approximate location to where I want to go, then I'll take a taxi (or if I get lost), to the finish the final leg of the trip. Can be cost effective sometimes, but not always. But that's just me, wanting to explore a little, if given the time.
[B]3)[/B] Any tool that help you navigate the city should be welcomed. If you don't fear looking like a tourist, you could go old school and buy a map. One of my all time favorite traveling pastimes, is to play 'dumb' and ask pretty women for street directions (but don't use the precise address). You just never know.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2575742]I concur with your report that these sites (Barra VIPs & MClass) have great lookers who provide outstanding service. 500 br is too much considering the quality. [/QUOTE]Correction:
500 br is [B]NOT [/B] too much considering the quality IMHO.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2575733]Let us remember that he shot himself in the end! Not the way to go. Better to go while solidly planted between a tute's soft, lotioned legs! The Hemingway stuff only should go so far.[/QUOTE]IMHO Hemingway was a great writer. My favorite works by him are: The Sun Also Rises, A Moveable Feast, To Have and Have Not, The Snows of Kilimanjaro, and The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber. I have no idea what slumming in 4th tier RJ bordellos has to do with him. That is pure fantasy. As a young man Hemingway truly loved Paris in the 1920's and we all know what that meant, but he always wrote about and seemed to prefer classy broads and hookers. Ha Ha.
His sad end should have no bearing on understanding the meaning of his life or the profound insights into the human condition which he wrote about and gave to the world in his literature.
Since Rio is not like Thailand and there are not flashing signs or half naked girls outside LOL how to you find the smaller prives / brothels, what's the best way to google search them since you can't type in Brothels in Rio and get results. One of the things I loved about Pattaya is roaming around and just spotting the place you want to try although I'm sure I will find other things I love about Brazil. I'm very excited for a new adventure.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2575742]There was only a week while I was in RJ that the Prive's were officially open, so I chose to go to only 1 Prive by the name of RJMassagem in Barra. I choose RJMassagem because they were basically the only establishment I saw with good looking girls on their website. [URL]https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/team-barra-da-tijuca/[/URL].
I had a passionate Nuru session with Clara, but to my surprise, it turned out that RJMassagem is not a full service (vaginal sex) prive, only a massage and BJ happy ending place. Clara was great, however, and I had her over at my hotel 2 days later where we consummated our relationship. Ha Ha. Check out their internet site and see if any of the girls interest you. Based on my experience you will have to go through a 2-stage process, but it might be worth it to you if you want to do the girl. [/QUOTE]I kinda like that setup actually but I never did hit up the massage places. Being that it was my first time, I mostly went through the termas to get a feel for those with online hookups to bridge the gaps. I definitely agree with Sperto that wasting time in the cheaper prives is the long man's game. When you are here for two weeks, wasting a whole day with no results or having to settle for service is not acceptable, especially because the vacationer is losing time that could be spent seeing sights or relaxing. I also believe that my aversion to cheaper prive adventures comes from age as well. When you are young, all you know is the hunt. You live in the world of young, inexperienced women, shitty housing, fleeting encounters, and fruitless nights. It's probably why most young men eventually decide to settle down and end the hunt (at least for awhile). Seems like a waste to just replicate the normal bar experience in a watered down prive environment, rather than focus on the thing people our age are searching for; quality experiences and comfort.
[QUOTE]One last thing: what was the name of the "local terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water" that you mentioned in your report? I would really like to go there and check it out.[/QUOTE]Well, the execs and I went over to a place near Hotel Panda for an "encontro" as I was told. I'm not sure how it generally works but we went to a general bar area in a nearby building where we had food and drinks. Then girls started popping in. You picked a girl, negotiated the price, and skipped over to.
Hotel Panda for the rooms. I'm heading over the Sao Paulo on Sunday with the guy who took me so I'll ask him more in person how it works or if this was some kind of sponsored event or something. I'll see if he knows where the girls are coming from because that's what I'm interested in. In Sao Paulo, I'll just be there a few days and will be focused on work so I'll probably just be ordering in at MClass or Private55.
From Bogota, Zebra made his way to Cartegena, and organized a band of cargo ships with rigid rubber boats, a kind of Spy Who Loved me flotilla, manned with hookers and uber drivers. Further south, Vagabundo had his own flotilla of supertankers, tankers, cruise ships, and the odd submarine bought in bunda from odessa. Somewhere, around Natal, the flotillas collided, in a pussy riot.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2575740]Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.
Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.
Zebra.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IndecentPro;2572931]This board is a great resource and while I may not be able to contribute any reports until later. I do want to contribute *something* so I don't get roasted for asking questions with no prior contribution.
So this has helped me save literally hundreds if not over a thousand dollars in the past few years.
Many of you may be familiar with BrazilCupid, DominicanCupid, ColombianCupid, FilipinoCupid, etc.
I've had great success over the years using the Cupid sites (for both freebies and pros) but often the cost is prohibitive. Why pay $150 USD when that can pay for 2-3 girls, right?
Well here is my method. Use a VPN and route your sign-up through Argentina. Steps and costs detailed below.
1. Open your VPN. Select Buenos Aires or another city in Argentina if possible.
2. Open an Incognito window in Chrome so your location data registers as in Argentina.
3. Go to the Cupid site you want to sign-up for. It must be a new account as they store prior location data.
4. Create an account and go to update. You will see two options: Gold and Platinum. Gold is 3000 ARS / year and Platinum is 4000 ARS / year. Select the one you want and begin messaging!
Benefits:[/QUOTE]Seems like they plugged that hole:
I use one of the better VPN's and can't access the site when it's on, damn too bad.
Not worth paying 150 $ for that shit site.
Got to wait until I'm there then.
(And yeah I know it's kinda shit because I tried it before at least in Thai and so on. A lot of spam messages just.
But yeah like most stuff you can find some gold in there).
Allright, Sperto as always is spot on.
Look, here is a simple way to hava a good time in prives and even (gasp) VM.
1. OK, you need to bang a hot girl in a prive, and need a nice room. Go to: Treze de Maio 33/3206. The rooms that overlook guanbara bay are really nice. Hot girls are there, notably estephany, see her review on gparena. I mean, 32nd floor, you are watching g bay, ships come in, ships go out, as they have for thousands of years. Rooms are big. Beds are queen or bigger. I mean, it's nice.
And you are paying 120 for an hour.
2. VM. Go to casa 14 and ask for the suite. Its a pretty big room, on the 4th floor. Sure, you have to wiggle to get to the top, but suck it up you first world snobs. You came to rio de janeiro.
3. VM / Mosaico. Go to Mosaico, best after 1 AM. The tier 1 girls come in to fuck locals for half price (200 for the hour). Rooms are fine. Best long term mini relationships are to be had in the Mosaico area clubs, like the once great club red light. 502 also good once upon a time, but I digress.
4. Get either the VM or the Mosaico girl to the hotel canario, right around the corner.
VM is great. I don't care what anyone says, it is really the place where a lot of the girls you will see a week or two later in 4 x4 start. I have witnessed it. I am a true insider and I study personnel. Not just negras, but ruivas too.
And in Mosaico, you get the rio grande do sul uber germanic loira just up for a month or two, staying in recreio with her MMA stud boyfriend who wants to make a few bucks on the side so she is selling her blond uber bad ass at Mosaico girls. I am thinking of a specific girl named Gabi, which is a loira morena from rio grande do sul name if vagabundo ever heard one. Pull those blond cheeks apart and sodomize her till she yawns.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2575701]No worries, nobody expects a newbie to be able to find gems in prives. Nobody said it was going to be simple. Some mongers, the "high-rollers", go to T1 termas and do their thing. Pay expensive and think they hit the jackpot. Other mongers hit the prives. Try out a few and find the result satisfying. To really find the gems, the perfect fresh newbies with 10 points bodies that starts their career in a simple priv, this takes hard work.
Some days can pass without I meeting any gems. Then suddenly I strike a small, no famous priv, with a bunch of perfect gems. Then it's time to act. Try them all out in a few days and get phone numbers. God knows I entered prives with several newbie gems, tried one and the next time the others are gone to some exclusive casa. My preference are those who GPS that started the same day as I visit the priv. As being the first customer it's good to be to gentle and show your appreciation. These girls will never forget their first customer.
Sorry for interrupting the veterantalk. Carry on![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2575653]... I came down for a bit of work and was taken by banking industry co-workers to a "local" terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water. Suffice it to say that the women were model / porn actress level with an associated price tag to boot. Some of our more frugal members here would be convulsing in anger but it was definitely a great experience if you have the money and the "in" to get into the door.....[/QUOTE]No need to hide details of the "local" terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water as according to you it was very expensive and, therefore, unlikely to be 'spoiled' by gringo mongers.
Indeed, he would have been better off with ganja to self medicate rather than the bottle and the ridiculous electroshock crap which lobotomized him.
All that said, Hemingway as a writer stands the test of time.
Perhaps most appropro to our subject is his book, a moveable feast.
For to paraphrase, if you have been in Rio as a man, it stays with you, for Rio is a moveable feast.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2575733]Let us remember that he shot himself in the end! Not the way to go. Better to go while solidly planted between a tute's soft, lotioned legs! The Hemingway stuff only should go so far.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2574890]I think it's the element of danger and the unknown- at least as perceived by a sheltered gringo mongers on holiday. Scandallo, etc does not provide this dramatic tension[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2574975]...but he was a war correspondent, and those were brutal times...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2574999]Vila Mimosa lends itself to literary comparisons.
In addition to the perceived danger for foreign interlopers, raw and unbridled sexuality is on display amongst the squalor and decay . . .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2575789]...I have no idea what slumming in 4th tier RJ bordellos has to do with him. That is pure fantasy...[/QUOTE]NB, I couldn't help but think about, Hemingway, as a war correspondent and the trauma that goes with writing about war, would lead me to think, [I]"Are newbies visiting Rio's VM bordellos, having a traumatic event?" [/I] and hence out comes their inner Hemingway, when they report on ISG.
Okay, it is perhaps a bit of a stretch and as you say [I]"pure fantasy"[/I], but it did make me wonder.
Hemingway and Gellhorn.
I would commend to our band of brothers the movie, Hemingway and Gellhorn, which is about 1937-40 when he was in the spanish civil war, with hookers, etc in a hotel in Barcelona, which I should visit, BTW.
Hemingway's the literary saint for we mongers.
Along with the saints of sinners, like Augustine, who after all wrote city of god, and confessions, in which he confessed a life of sin, multiple wives, african women in north africa. Sound familiar?
There is a fine book about hemingway as a spy: soldier, sailor, writer, spy.
[URL]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GCCT3WK/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1[/URL]
[QUOTE=Spidy;2576068]NB, I couldn't help but think about, Hemingway, as a war correspondent and the trauma that goes with writing about war, would lead me to think, [I]"Are newbies visiting Rio's VM bordellos, having a traumatic event?" [/I] and hence out comes their inner Hemingway, when they report on ISG.
Okay, it is perhaps as you say [I]"pure fantasy"[/I], but it did make me wonder.[/QUOTE]
I was on the fence but reading the board here makes me feel better about visiting for a week in August.
Things seem to be sufficiently open and "normal. " Any thoughts otherwise before I bite the bullet? It's time to get back and on with it.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2576088]I was on the fence but reading the board here makes me feel better about visiting for a week in August.
Things seem to be sufficiently open and "normal. " Any thoughts otherwise before I bite the bullet? It's time to get back and on with it.[/QUOTE]I arrived today.
So far seems same as like in December, lets see tonight with bars and clubs, last time many clubs closed.
But be ready on mask madness, it is worst then in Europe.
If anyone is tonight free bored, jetleged for beer somewhere on Copa hit me with PM.
[QUOTE=Onyx82;2575709]Hi mate,
Going to stay a month in Brazil and thinking about 2-3 weeks in Rio and maybe one week in Patel or what's it called up north.
Best regards.[/QUOTE]If you're staying in Rio for 3 weeks, read and contact Senor Vagabundo who has all answers to your questions, and then some. He might help if he likes you, LOL.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2575740]Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.
Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.
Zebra.[/QUOTE]Yes. Having been to both cities, I'd go in the opposite direction: Bogota, then Rio.
Also, according to many reports on Bogota thread, Pussy House has turned into a rip-off joint.
[QUOTE=Onyx82;2575930]Seems like they plugged that hole:
I use one of the better VPN's and can't access the site when it's on, damn too bad.
Not worth paying 150 $ for that shit site.
[/QUOTE]I have a cheap VPN service and can confirm that the method IndecentPro generously shared with us works fine.
Follow the exact steps he outlined in his post and it'll get you to 4000 ARS per year for Platinum.
If you can't open the site, dump your better VPN, and use another one.
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2576113]I arrived today.
But be ready on mask madness, it is worst then in Europe.[/QUOTE]Where are masks required? Judging by the reports, I thought it's business as usual.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2576205]I have a cheap VPN service and can confirm that the method IndecentPro generously shared with us works fine.
Follow the exact steps he outlined in his post and it'll get you to 4000 ARS per year for Platinum.
If you can't open the site, dump your better VPN, and use another one.
[/QUOTE]Ah thanks I will try it again later.
Thought Nord VPN would be able to do it.
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2576113]I arrived today.
So far seems same as like in December, lets see tonight with bars and clubs, last time many clubs closed.
But be ready on mask madness, it is worst then in Europe.
If anyone is tonight free bored, jetleged for beer somewhere on Copa hit me with PM.[/QUOTE]How are things going? I am interested for next August. Thanks!
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2575789]His sad end should have no bearing on understanding the meaning of his life or the profound insights into the human condition which he wrote about and gave to the world in his literature.[/QUOTE]True. It's just that this isn't a literature club. It's a place to discuss P4P around the world. Really wanting us all to get back to exactly what the site is about, and I'm positive that isn't to discuss the contributions of Hemingway, or any other literary giant. The only "literary giants" around here who matter are those who write good field reports!
[QUOTE=TShelby;2576289]How are things going? I am interested for next August. Thanks![/QUOTE]Restorants and bars are open, I think until 2 am.
Went last night to check Monte Carlo around 1 AM, I was, only costumer inside, had a drink with girl which is some kind of manager there and she said that around 3 should be more crowd.
Was akward being there alone, was mostly interested to see the place and have few drinks and maybe session if I feel urge to but didnt eventually.
Then went to P4 P, was writen on google that is closed but was thinking must be mistake or outdated.
Well, I was wrong.
Went back with same taxi to Copa and called it a night as I didn't sleep night before and was jetlegged.
It helps to know opening hours and what is currently available. Appreciate your reports on the ground!
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2576373]Restorants and bars are open, I think until 2 am.
.[/QUOTE]
Guys,
IDK about Bogota. It's cold, high altitude, difficult to get things done, and most importantly these girls will just not do BBBJ and the associated extras. It's hard to cope when something that is so central to my sex routine and so abundant and freely given in Rio is now just not on the menu- or at least is only given by 1/5 ladies for an extra price. Looking back at the termas and how those girls would just immediately start making out with you and allow you to feel them up- I realize perhaps Rio mongers take this state of affairs for granted. And so I say to you, do not take it for granted.
Can any of our experienced and wise members articulate on this difference between Bogota and Rio a bit further? A girl I was talking to said she didn't do BBBJ because "she didn't want to die", I mean, seriously? Has there been some evil NGO planting anti-sex conspiracy theories in these girls heads? And perhaps more significantly, will this be the case in Medellin as well? I recall a similar state of affairs in Costa Rica.
I know it's not a Rio thread topic per se, but I hope I can get away with it as a recent poster here and as relevant due to the real time comparison.
Hope all is well in Rio.
[QUOTE=TShelby;2576289]How are things going? I am interested for next August. Thanks![/QUOTE]You also have plans to go in August 2022?
What dates? (I'm planning to go around 22/8 and staying a month, celebrate my 40th bday in Brazil).
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2576373]Went last night to check Monte Carlo around 1 AM, I was, only costumer inside, had a drink with girl which is some kind of manager there and she said that around 3 should be more crowd.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure any Rio termas is happening at 1 AM and later.
So after reading through and finding wealth of useful information for the hobby in Rio De Janeiro I felt like I should do my duty and see what I can do to add the the reports. For the last few years I've made several trips to Thailand. Although going to Brazil was always an option I considered. However my preference for small petite girls made it hard to turn away from my favorite. Covid of course taking that opportunity away for the time being I ended up getting my fix in São Paulo for a couple of weeks last August. Also because of Covid however most of the adult entertainment venues were closed (so glad they'll be open for my upcoming trip). So I relied almost entirely on online escorts. The first thing I learned is that Catfishing is horrible in São Paulo. It took a few tries to get the hang of figuring out which profiles were real. (Verified photos, reviews, etc.). After which I hand a pretty good time. Another difference I've noticed is you don't have to have any idea of what you're doing in Pattaya but a little knowledge helps a lot in Brazil. Which is what brought me to this forum. And yet another difference, to my delight, is Anal is a lot easier to come by in Brazil and more than anything else you can find absolutely every kind of look a girl had around the world there.
I'm going back to Brazil again in 2 days. This time I'm going to spend a week in Rio and then another in São Paulo. I'm looking forward to trying out the termas this time around. I've also always done my mongering solo other than the first time I went. Maybe I'll get a chance to meet up with some of the members there. I'll post reports for the upcoming days.
Heads up to anyone visiting, even if you're vaccinated you still need to do a rapid test to prove that you're not carrying the virus that devastated part of the country. When I was checking in for my flight they wouldn't even check me in until I'd filled a form from the Brazilian government's website and showed proof that I was negative for the virus.
About the rumors of Centaurus ripping people off, they are true so be careful when you visit and use your common sense.
I'm currently using the agency Agenda31 to connect with some providers and so far I'm impressed. I got to hang out with Manu and her pictures 100% accurate. Being in Rio is depressing because I got to experience it so late. If you're planning the trip then I'd recommend that you do not hold back especially if you're vaccinated. Just as many mongers have stated, Sao Paulo does have a lot of beauties.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2576419]...Can any of our experienced and wise members articulate on this difference between Bogota and Rio a bit further? A girl I was talking to said she didn't do BBBJ because "she didn't want to die", I mean, seriously? Has there been some evil NGO planting anti-sex conspiracy theories in these girls heads? And perhaps more significantly, will this be the case in Medellin as well? I recall a similar state of affairs in Costa Rica.
I know it's not a Rio thread topic per se, but I hope I can get away with it as a recent poster here and as relevant due to the real time comparison.
Hope all is well in Rio.[/QUOTE]I don't know much about Bogota, but I am fairly familiar with Medellin and Cartagena. For BBBJ service, it depends which type of girl you are dealing with. Casa girls generally do not provide BBBJ, and some will offer it with an additional fee.
However, higher end girls do give BBBJ, and it is expected. By higher end, I mean WGs that charge higher rates, such as freelancers, club girls, or FB girls.
[URL]https://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04[/URL]
Perhaps try this, haha.
Make your way to Cartagena, and from there by boat back south, herr conrad.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2576419]Guys,
IDK about Bogota. It's cold, high altitude, difficult to get things done, and most importantly these girls will just not do BBBJ and the associated extras. It's hard to cope when something that is so central to my sex routine and so abundant and freely given in Rio is now just not on the menu- or at least is only given by 1/5 ladies for an extra price. Looking back at the termas and how those girls would just immediately start making out with you and allow you to feel them up- I realize perhaps Rio mongers take this state of affairs for granted. And so I say to you, do not take it for granted.[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
A question from a newbie here.
Next year I plan to go to Brazil to stay one month.
Met a guy at the gym who has been there a lot and he really recommended staying in Rio and close to Copacabana.
But he isn't a monger like us, so questions I have is:
Is it worth staying one month in Rio or should I go somewhere else too? (Or even go to Colombia in the same trip etc).
What is your experience?
And what would you recommend a newbie? (mostly been mongering in Asia but they are kinda of the table ATM).
And I have no Spanish or Portuguese skills.
(is the English worse then broken Thai English?
Best regards Joe.
[QUOTE=SixFourApache;2576485]
About the rumors of Centaurus ripping people off, they are true so be careful when you visit and use your common sense.
[/QUOTE]That's funny, that was true 20 years ago when I was frequently in Rio and on this Rio board. You had to check your bill carefully but they had some of the hottest women.
Haven't been to Rio since 09. Considering going back to I'm looking at post here again. How much is a session at Centaurus these days?
Codename Vagabundo. License to Kill. Hemingway and Bond Adventure Travel Genre.
Vagabundo is sitting here in the sauna at 4 x4, which is a de facto co-working space (the password for the WIFI's at 4 x4 is buenos44). This may be the best place in the world to:
1) Trade stocks, options, any financial instrument.
2) Write legal briefs.
3) do any remote work, now that there is WiFi.
4) be an anonymous client of anonymous sex workers, IE, a secret agent, to wit.
Hemingway is the same genre as Fleming, Ian, Bond 1-25, for which gentlemen of the Jury, Vagabundo offers exhibit 1, the movie, License to Kill, which was in fact filmed at the [URL]Hemingwayhome.com[/URL] in Key West, FL, wherein the anon secret agent was shot at from the light tower while on the balcony around the Hemingway bedroom (wife #2, with whom Hem had some kids, before wife #3, Gellhorn).
Vagabundo had mongered over to TDM33 (Treze de Maio 33), 3206. His first choice had said she would only do covered blow job, to which Vagabundo said. "you're not going to be the first Rio hooker to give me a covered blow job"in perfect Portuguese. And he picked another girl.
80 reais for a half hour. Massage in between.
Vagabundo has been a little knackered.
Sports fans, Vagabundo had work -- eek, the rich world!! -- to do last week, which cut into his precious me-time, IE, chupa meu piroca time. Well, that's why they call it work. Paid rent for 6 months in 3 days of writing complaints.
Oh, as to the common question -- how does Vababundo stay in Rio? -- the answer is he has been teaching English using [URL]economist.com[/URL] audio for 7 years. Gents, any one who can get on this site could get this kind of work. Play that good English audio for a few hours, and every 10 minutes stop and say something smart, and put up some clear introduction, middle, conclusion.
So, the prive girl was 20, a branca, nice mouth, slim, pretty enough to sit on vagabundo's dick, while Vababundo fantasized about Nina Deponca getting fucked by Sean Michaels in a night club in one of buttman's early films, back when he shot on a little sound stage in Van Nuys that he tricked out for his butt obsessive work, except Vagabundo fantasized about mulata nina deponca dominating branca nina hartley's virgin 18 year old ass, those nice full round bottom cheeks.
She wasn't a great performer.
Vagabundo made the mistake of fucking a second girl in the same casa, after he had been working on one girl. The girls obviously talked. Still the second prive girl got a load of leite for her troubles and it kind of dribbled out, after she rode Vagabundo's dick, and he bent her over doggy style.
Vagabundo spent the morning after the 9 h15 bus shopping for books, dropping by the casa de bombeiro.
A pro-tip: when the police stopped vagabundo, they did see the bombeiro militar wallet, and they let him and his date go.
Pro-Tip number two: never ride with a girl if there is any chance she has any weed.
Well, now, with that said, on with another day in the life of Vagabundo.
After the prive girl to milk a nut, Vagabundo headed over to 4 x 4, to link up with safado69.
Our plan for the week is:
Wednesday, 17 h, Solarium, maybe dinner before (cover there is 130 r). We are interested in Marius, though unlimited lobster tails is not available anymore.
Thursday, Paris Cafe and Perola negra in Barra (cover at both is 30 r).
So, in 4 x4, Vagabundo and Safado69 linked up. Vagabundo had a pair of sperm nurses sucking face with him, and he exchanged numbers, and told them he had sessioned, so don't spent too much time with our hero. As he types this he notes he should give them caixinhas (a little tip, maybe 20 reais). Vagabundo also chatted with a big titted girl from Curitiba, who comes well reviewed by Safado69, and with whom he traded numbers (on that note, an occupational hazard of whoring is crossing swords as eskimo bros, which is something that Vagabundo noted recently when a ISG member got all bent out of shape because Vagabundo was texting a girl he had been banging, and showing Vagabundo pics of her, etc; so, the take away is if you are in this "biz" and you share pics and name etc of a working girl, expect that your eskimo bros might seek refuge in the same passages, so to speak).
Sabado, Vagabundo may actually go to SP for a week to check out the Moema prives, as he understands that in the hood of Miruna, there is also Enjoy and other new top Prives.
Maybe.
As a rule, Vagabundo hates SP.
Also as a rule, this time of year, one should go further north, chasing the sun, like Salvador north, or Forteleza.
Because remember, the correct answers are always:
Q: How long are you in Brazil?
A: All year.
Q: Where are you from?
A: Salvador. Sou Baiano (see Tropa de Elite).
Peace and good mongering to all.
[QUOTE=Onyx82;2576641]
But he isn't a monger like us, so questions I have is:
Is it worth staying one month in Rio or should I go somewhere else too? (Or even go to Colombia in the same trip etc).
What is your experience?[/QUOTE]It's not about anyone else's experience. It's about what YOU like to do other than mongering.
Do you enjoy sightseeing, exploring different places? If so, I don't know another country as diverse as Brazil. Certainly visit a few places: Iguassu Falls and Salvador first come to mind.
Do you prefer a beach vacation? Then Rio and its environs have everything you need. Base yourself in Copa and do short trips to Buzios, Ilha Grande, perhaps Parati as well.
Do you need nothing but mongering? Divide your stay between Copa, Barra and Centro and plan your vacation to hit as many targets as your stamina can handle, and then some, LOL.
There are no right or wrong ways to enjoy yourself. Just do what works for you.
Wouldn't go to Colombia, though. You don't need distractions in Brazil, LOL.
[QUOTE=Onyx82;2576641]And I have no Spanish or Portuguese skills.
(is the English worse then broken Thai English?
Best regards Joe.[/QUOTE]It is much worse than in Thailand. Very few Brazilians speak English at all.
You'll still have a blast, though. Hard not to.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2576885]It's not about anyone else's experience. It's about what YOU like to do other than mongering.
Do you enjoy sightseeing, exploring different places? If so, I don't know another country as diverse as Brazil. Certainly visit a few places: Iguassu Falls and Salvador first come to mind.
Do you prefer a beach vacation? Then Rio and its environs have everything you need. Base yourself in Copa and do short trips to Buzios, Ilha Grande, perhaps Parati as well.
Do you need nothing but mongering? Divide your stay between Copa, Barra and Centro and plan your vacation to hit as many targets as your stamina can handle, and then some, LOL.
There are no right or wrong ways to enjoy yourself. Just do what works for you.
Wouldn't go to Colombia, though. You don't need distractions in Brazil, LOL.
It is much worse than in Thailand. Very few Brazilians speak English at all.
You'll still have a blast, though. Hard not to.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for the tips.
Tbh I usually do some exploring in Thailand but I prefer relaxing and do some mongering, the Iguassu Falls seemed nice. How long does it take to get there from Rio?
And should I bring a bird with me from Rio?
I also prefer / like to go to some cinema whenever I visit a country and just roam a bit in the mall to see how it is.
Haha yeah I might need to do a lot of cardio before leaving xD.
Ah okay, oh well worse English than Thailand but more chance of anal xD.
How is it with getting LT with birds?
Is it harder then Thailand? (I prefer a LT over ST because I like to cuddle also xD not just fuck and bye bye).
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2576757]That's funny, that was true 20 years ago when I was frequently in Rio and on this Rio board. You had to check your bill carefully but they had some of the hottest women.
Haven't been to Rio since 09. Considering going back to I'm looking at post here again. How much is a session at Centaurus these days?[/QUOTE]I believe they are aiming at a specific group who can afford their services as I don't believe a business owner would be so desperate and would tarnish their business reputation, but it could be possible.
Let's just say that I paid to sleep with British porn stars.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2575398]Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.
1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.
2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.
3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.
4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.[/QUOTE]FWIW, $150 is overkill for an AirBnB in Copacabana. Budget a third of that (more than likely you'll end up spending less) and spend the rest on partying and getting your fuck on. Just my $.02.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2575740]Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.
Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.
Zebra.[/QUOTE]Chapinero rocks! FWIW, my contacts in Bogota tell me it is a COVID-19 shitshow now. Be safe.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2576419]Guys,
IDK about Bogota. It's cold, high altitude, difficult to get things done, and most importantly these girls will just not do BBBJ and the associated extras. It's hard to cope when something that is so central to my sex routine and so abundant and freely given in Rio is now just not on the menu- or at least is only given by 1/5 ladies for an extra price. Looking back at the termas and how those girls would just immediately start making out with you and allow you to feel them up- I realize perhaps Rio mongers take this state of affairs for granted. And so I say to you, do not take it for granted.
Can any of our experienced and wise members articulate on this difference between Bogota and Rio a bit further? A girl I was talking to said she didn't do BBBJ because "she didn't want to die", I mean, seriously? Has there been some evil NGO planting anti-sex conspiracy theories in these girls heads? And perhaps more significantly, will this be the case in Medellin as well? I recall a similar state of affairs in Costa Rica.
I know it's not a Rio thread topic per se, but I hope I can get away with it as a recent poster here and as relevant due to the real time comparison.
Hope all is well in Rio.[/QUOTE]Yeah the rolas are definitely a different breed from the cariocas. I'll take the cariocas over the rolas most days.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2576419]Guys,
IDK about Bogota. It's cold, high altitude, difficult to get things done, and most importantly these girls will just not do BBBJ and the associated extras. It's hard to cope when something that is so central to my sex routine and so abundant and freely given in Rio is now just not on the menu- or at least is only given by 1/5 ladies for an extra price. Looking back at the termas and how those girls would just immediately start making out with you and allow you to feel them up- I realize perhaps Rio mongers take this state of affairs for granted. And so I say to you, do not take it for granted.
Can any of our experienced and wise members articulate on this difference between Bogota and Rio a bit further? A girl I was talking to said she didn't do BBBJ because "she didn't want to die", I mean, seriously? Has there been some evil NGO planting anti-sex conspiracy theories in these girls heads? And perhaps more significantly, will this be the case in Medellin as well? I recall a similar state of affairs in Costa Rica.
I know it's not a Rio thread topic per se, but I hope I can get away with it as a recent poster here and as relevant due to the real time comparison.
Hope all is well in Rio.[/QUOTE]Forgot to elaborate in my previous reply. My experience with the rolas (women of Bogota) is mixed. They are definitely slower to warm to you than the instant make-out session you get with most cariocas. It takes work / money / display of high value to get them going. Even then, they are loath to do anything sans condom or even passionate DFK in my experience. Granted my experience is with non-pros / prepagos there. You know "good girls" or opportunistic working girls masquerading as normal "good girls".
Been a couple of years since I was in Bogota in my favorite barrio of Chapinero. Have fun dude! If you're in Chapinero, try a restaurant I used to frequent (pre-pandemic) called Chambuka. It's a Caribbean restaurant next to the Bogota Beer Company on Calle 63 between Carrera 7 and Career 8. There's a waitress there named Kelly. Big fake tits and big fake ass who can be had as a prepago if you want to give it a shot.
[QUOTE=Onyx82;2576641]Hi guys,
A question from a newbie here.
Next year I plan to go to Brazil to stay one month.
Met a guy at the gym who has been there a lot and he really recommended staying in Rio and close to Copacabana.
But he isn't a monger like us, so questions I have is:
Is it worth staying one month in Rio or should I go somewhere else too? (Or even go to Colombia in the same trip etc).
What is your experience?
And what would you recommend a newbie? (mostly been mongering in Asia but they are kinda of the table ATM)..[/QUOTE]IMHO, spend the whole time in RJ with maybe some weekend excursions to Buzios, Paraty or Petropolis. There is so much to do and see in RJ -- you need a month to get oriented and experience it. Then once you get your sea-legs under you, spend the rest of the time partying, meeting people / girls and getting your fuck on. You won't regret it. Just my $.02.
[QUOTE=Yossarian;2577167]Chapinero rocks! FWIW, my contacts in Bogota tell me it is a COVID-19 shitshow now. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Things have gone downhill in Bogota. Zebra gives it a thumbs down. En route to Medellin.
[QUOTE=Yossarian;2577221]IMHO, spend the whole time in RJ with maybe some weekend excursions to Buzios, Paraty or Petropolis. There is so much to do and see in RJ -- you need a month to get oriented and experience it. Then once you get your sea-legs under you, spend the rest of the time partying, meeting people / girls and getting your fuck on. You won't regret it. Just my $.02.[/QUOTE]Yeah it will be something like that I will most likely end up doing.
Is Iguassu Falls a good weekend excursion?
And would you prefer a Airbnb or a hotel?
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2577249]Things have gone downhill in Bogota. Zebra gives it a thumbs down. En route to Medellin.[/QUOTE]When you are in the Bogota airport be sure to stop by the Juan Valdez Café, buy a bag of coffee, T-shirt and say Hi to Juan.
BTW, Bogota is a great city for non-pros.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2577295]When you are in the Bogota airport be sure to stop by the Juan Valdez Caf, buy a bag of coffee, T-shirt and say Hi to Juan.
BTW, Bogota is a great city for non-pros.[/QUOTE]Went there and had a brownie that made me diabetic.
[QUOTE=Onyx82;2576908]Thanks so much for the tips.
Tbh I usually do some exploring in Thailand but I prefer relaxing and do some mongering, the Iguassu Falls seemed nice. How long does it take to get there from Rio?
And should I bring a bird with me from Rio?
I also prefer / like to go to some cinema whenever I visit a country and just roam a bit in the mall to see how it is.
Haha yeah I might need to do a lot of cardio before leaving xD.
Ah okay, oh well worse English than Thailand but more chance of anal xD.
How is it with getting LT with birds?
Is it harder then Thailand? (I prefer a LT over ST because I like to cuddle also xD not just fuck and bye bye).[/QUOTE]1. A 2-hour flight, I think. Ideally, you need 3 full days in Iguassu, and I do recommend hiring a guide with a car. The distances are vast, better spend more money and save time.
2. Well, if you fall in love, you might. I wouldn't since Iguassu has its own P2 P scene.
3. You won't find any shortages of movies or malls in Rio.
4. LT, ST or anything in between. You're the boss.
5. No, it's not harder.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2577249]Things have gone downhill in Bogota. Zebra gives it a thumbs down. En route to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Yeah, my contacts in Bogota have been saying it is awful (on many levels) since the pandemic began. I hope Medellin is better for you.
[QUOTE=Onyx82;2577266]Yeah it will be something like that I will most likely end up doing.
Is Iguassu Falls a good weekend excursion?
And would you prefer a Airbnb or a hotel?[/QUOTE]It's all the way in the south, long trip. But, I hear it is amazing. Me -- I prefer AirBnB.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2577295]When you are in the Bogota airport be sure to stop by the Juan Valdez Caf, buy a bag of coffee, T-shirt and say Hi to Juan.
BTW, Bogota is a great city for non-pros.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is. Especially now with the economic crisis most of the ordinary rolas are facing in the pandemic they are DESPERATE. Rolas who normally would not even consider "doing that" for money are "doing that". You can easily play white-knight, Capt Save-A-Hoe down there with very high-quality rolas now.
[QUOTE=Yossarian;2577546]It's all the way in the south, long trip. But, I hear it is amazing. Me -- I prefer AirBnB.[/QUOTE]Yeah I saw that. Looked some clips on yt and looks very nice.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2577439]1. A 2-hour flight, I think. Ideally, you need 3 full days in Iguassu, and I do recommend hiring a guide with a car. The distances are vast, better spend more money and save time.
2. Well, if you fall in love, you might. I wouldn't since Iguassu has its own P2 P scene.
3. You won't find any shortages of movies or malls in Rio.
4. LT, ST or anything in between. You're the boss.
5. No, it's not harder.[/QUOTE]1. Ah so one day of travel then 3 full days there?
2. Ah okay, is it in Foz de Iguacu then?
And do you have any experience visiting Paraguay / Argentina at the same time? (Thinking why not take 3 countries in SA when I'm so close to them).
3. Ah nice, so tired of European pricing of the cinemas (Here in Sweden its ridiculous expensive).
4/5. Nice.
Thanks for all the tips and advice for a SA newbie. With my adhd I like to know as much as possible before I go somewhere and have as much facts / inside tips as possible.
Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio. Keep in mind that this guide was made for the newbie, not the experienced monger spending a long time on ground. As such, my recommendations reflect 1.) my own bias and 2.) my own perception of how to maximize one's time and experience without necessarily a big focus on saving some money. That being said. Here it is:
Flights.
International. This is really subject to where you live and when you book. If you fly direct to Rio, chances are you will end up at GIG. This is the international airport that is located about 45 minutes from Zona Sul (where Copacabana and Ipanema are). When I arrived going through customs was a smooth and easy process, though I was randomly selected for extra screening which only added a few more minutes due to some issues with the guy in front of me. Once you go through customs you'll arrive at the ground floor where there are taxis and hagglers all around. Ignore them. Head over to the ATMs directly in front of the elevators that will take you to the second floor and get cash, if you so desire. Like with all ATMs, there is a fee associated with it but it is marginal (in the realm of a couple dollars). Some people don't believe in getting money here and prefer to pinch pennies by finding other locations for exchange, but this guide is about convenience and quality, rather than using limited time on getting a few more dollars. There's no right or wrong answer as it is your money and your time.
Head on up two levels to floor 2 (you started on floor 0) and stand inside the airport while you call your Uber. Uber picks up on floor 2 and it is very easy to from the door to their car without hassles. I recommend using UberVIP because it ensures you get a top rated driver who has a lot of trips. It does not cost any more than UberX, but is an added benefit with certain credit cards. You'll have to do your own research to see if your card provides this perk. The ride from GIG to Copa and Ipanema is about 45 minutes if there is no traffic. Ask your driver, if he speaks English, to explain the neighborhoods you drive by on the way south. There is a tunnel that separates the north from the south here and there are some very relevant socioeconomic distinctions.
Domestic. If you connect through Sao Paulo you're going to go through customs there so I am not familiar with that process. But once you arrive at the domestic airport of Rio (SDU) you'll find it to be clean and comfortable. Security here for my flight to Sao Paulo was quick and efficient as well, though I did travel on a Sunday when things are slow. There is a luxury lounge that you can use if you have Priority Pass and it has basic snacks, drinks (wine and beer included), and wifi. It is a very small lounge and was crowded when I arrived. I did not get a chance to look for ATMs but I am sure they are around. This airport is only 20-25 minutes from the beaches when there is no traffic.
Lodging.
Hotels. I stayed at 2 hotels during my 3 weeks in Rio. The first was the hotel Astoria Palace. It is a decent enough place that is conveniently located close to Monte Carlo, Dolce Vide, and Mabs. There are also several restaurants close by and a few bank ATMs. Some prives like Eden Spa and Alternative Spa are within a 10 minute walk as well. Astoria Palace has a decent breakfast, OK wifi, good service from the staff, a rooftop bar, and is guest friendly. For the picky traveler they may not be a fan of the spotty wifi or the loud construction noises I experienced when I was there, but it is an OK hotel that is worth staying in for the convenience of location.
There is also the Windsor California Hotel close by that I stayed in and found to be excellent. The breakfast is truly top notch (huge selection of food). The rooftop restaurant and bar are great and provide a quality view of the beach. The wifi is super fast and the service of the staff was borderline 5 star, even though it is a 4 star hotel. I am not sure if it is guest friendly, but it is in a very convenient location and is of similar distance to the venues listed above. It is a little farther from Dolce Vide and Mabs than Astoria Palace is, but I found it to be a much better hotel overall. I don't like to bring back guests so this is my preferred location from now on. Expect $40-80/ night for a quality 4-star hotel, depending on the type of room you want.
AirBnb. Some people like to have their own place where they can cook, do laundry, etc. I did not use any AirBnbs here but can say that many are guest friendly. Reach out to the host before booking and ask if they allow you to bring in female guests. Some will say no but if you do your due diligence, you'll find many that will. Avoid the places further removed from the beach, as the back streets of Copacabana can be quite dangerous, especially at night. Staying anywhere along Copacabana, Ipanema, and Leblon is great. The former is the most convenient for the hobby while the latter is the most luxurious.
Other. The experienced monger may desire to stay off the beaten path, perhaps in downtown, Botafogo, or Barra. For the newbie monger looking for convenience, I'd caution against this. Staying along the Zona Sul beaches (Copa, Ipanema, Leblon) provide convenience and comfort that will decrease the stress of the trip. Downtown (centro) is closest to a lot of the discount termas and prives, but it is just a business center overall and walking around at night alone is not safe. Botafogo is a residential neighborhood in the middle between downtown and zona sul, but there is nothing interesting there that may appeal to the average tourist. Barra is a beautiful, wealthy, beach area but it is a 30 minute uber from most venues. If you need a break for a few days, Barra is a good place to go.
Miscellaneous Logistics.
Getting Around. Experienced mongers recommend public transport. I do not. I recommend all newbie travelers use Uber. It will cost you less than $5 to go from SDU airport downtown to the heart of Copacabana. It will cost you $2-3 to go from Copacabana to Solarium. For the combination of safety, efficiency, cost, and convenience, Uber cannot be beat. Learning the public transportation system can be useful for times of high traffic (the metro is pretty good here) but overall Uber is the best for getting around easily and safely. Do not ride the metro at night if you don't know what you are doing and / or don't think you can blend in. Lime scooters are everywhere so you can also take those up and down the beach at your leisure. These are perfect to go places that are too close to Uber but too far to walk.
Don't wear jewelry, especially when walking around at night. Take off the watch, rings, gold chain, etc. You aren't here to flex on anyone. If you're here to monger, then impressing some pro with your expensive watch is quite literally a waste of your time and only serves to inflate your ego. If you get held up, I personally would just give them what is on hand. In my experience, muggers want your money, not your life. If police stop you for whatever reason, immediately start communicating in English. If they start giving you a hard time and you have done nothing illegal, ask to call the embassy. I always keep a photocopy of my passport on hand. The local police can be quite corrupt and often just want a bribe, but they do not want trouble with the embassy. This is often talked about on the board and the general consensus is to have the golden ticket (passport info) ready to go. If, however, you are stopped by the federal police, you are in the hands of legitimate authorities as they are the real deal. If you get pulled over by them for whatever reason, you've probably done something wrong.
Laundry. If you have an AirBnb with laundry facilities, ignore this part. If you don't then fret not, there are many options here. Simply open up google maps on your phone and type in "laundry" and many places will pop up. You can either pay to have laundry done for you or you can do it yourself at these places. I elected to have my laundry done for me and it cost a total of $15 for a lot of clothes, essentially an entire suitcase worth. I also asked for expedited service and got it all back in 2 hours. You can do it yourself for about $5-10 I think. I do not recommend using hotel laundry service because it is shockingly expensive. At the Windsor California it would have cost me literally $100 for all of my clothes to be washed. Despite my love of convenience, that just isn't worth it.
ATM. This is often a big point of contention among board members. You can spend your time haggling for the best possible exchange rate, doing hours of research to save a few bucks, or you can head over to the nearest bank ATM to your hotel and withdraw your cash and be on your way. Ensure you use the bank ATMs as those are the safest and have cameras everywhere. Bradesco seems to be the most popular choice and there is one within walking distance to both Windsor California and Hotel Astoria Palace. I never had any issues and enjoyed the 5:1 exchange rate. It makes no difference in my life if I get 5. 10:1 or 5:1, so choose what works best for you. I'd avoid using ATMs that are just hanging out on the street as they are more subject to card swiping. But in the days of the chip as opposed to the magnetic strip, safety against fraud has improved significantly.
Food. I honestly debated including this section because there is so much one could write. Food everywhere is good. The farther you go from the beach, the cheaper it is. I recommend an Italian restaurant near Astoria Palace called La Trattoria. Simply open your phone to google maps and type in "Restaurants" to find numerous highly rated options. Google Reviews is your friend.
Groceries and Droguerias. Plenty of shopping all around. There is a popular food store chain called Zona Sul that is everywhere. If you are staying in an Airbnb with a kitchen just walk 5-10 minutes in every any direction and you'll find a grocery store. There is a difference between droguerias and farmacias here in Brazil, but most droguerias have farmacias in them. You can get your vitamin see or vitamin V in these farmacias. In droguerias you can find stuff that you would in any CVS or Walgreens in the US for your daily needs (shaving, headache medication, stomach ache medication, soap, etc.).
Tours. Take one, you're in Rio. It would be a shame to come so far and not see one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Yes, they can be pricy, but I think they're worth it.
Phone. Most US cell phone companies offer some sort of international travel plan in the form of a daily travel pass or an actual plan. If you're only on ground a week, I'd recommend the $10/ day travel pass. It isn't worth the hassle of trying to deal with the whole CPF thing and figuring out how many minutes / how much data you need. You can get a phone plan without a CPF but it is quite annoying to figure out how and where to go. It can eat up a lot of time and energy. Bite the bullet and pay the $10/ day for the convenience of not having to worry about getting a quality cell plan when on ground. If you're staying for more than 2 weeks, then sure, go ahead and get yourself a Brazilian cell phone plan. Lots of experienced mongers of this board will disagree with me, but I'm not going to argue over $70 for a 1 week vacation.
Haircut: Mr. Haircut in Copacabana. $10 for a really fresh cut. They'll serve you beer, water, or coffee while you get your haircut as well.
Language: Learn some Portuguese before you go. Most people don't speak any English whatsoever.
Race.
I will include this part as an oversimplified explanation of racial demographics in Brazil so that you understand where you are going. Many on the board ask about race or what the situation is on ground for people of different races. I hope this clarifies more questions than it raises.
Brancas are white women, or at least women who perceive themselves as white. Some women claim to be brancas but in the US and Europe they would actually be considered of Latina or Hispanic origin. Morena can either refer to a skin type (brown) or hair color. Morenas tend to be mixed with white and indigenous, if I am not mistaken. Mulattas are black and white mix. Negra means dark skinned, typically of African descent. You will find many shades in between and may be confused by how someone classifies themselves. I steer clear of these types of conversations with Brazilians and instead find something else to talk about. As a black man myself, I never experienced any sort of racism while in Brazil. No women refused to see me, none turned their gaze away, etc. I'm not sure if it would be different if I was actually Brazilian or if I went farther south, but I can confidently say that I did not experience any sort of discrimination or bias in Rio.
Termas Tier 1.
Keep in mind this guide was written for the newbie monger who prefers quality and convenience, as I have said many times before. Furthermore, I myself enjoy brancas so my recommendations reflect where one can find the most, and highest quality, of these types of pros. Rio is such a diverse city that you can and will find something that suits your fancy, if you know where to look. I'm not going to delve any further into the depths of the racial disparities of Brazil, but finding the highest volume of brancas requires going to tier 1 termas and the sort. If you prefer darker skinned women, you're most likely to find what you want in the darkside termas. It must be noted that you can find both types in both places. RTFF for more info on darkside termas if that is where you prefer to go.
Solarium. This place is not within walking distance of any of the Copa, Ipanema, or Leblon hotels. You'll have to Uber here, though it is located in a decent neighborhood. You'll walk in, get a key, and change into a robe before going upstairs. Once upstairs, you'll notice that the venue is quite small. The girls sit on one side while the men sit on the other, almost like an awkward middle school dance. Another thing that throws some people off is how brightly lit the place is compared to other termas. Fret not, the talent here is generally very good. You'll find the girls to be in the 7+ range, at least in my experience. This is worth the trip.
Centaurus. This place is controversial among board members and I understand why. It is expensive and the talent may only be marginally better than the rest, say 7+ on average (like Solarium), but the facilities are quite nice. You walk in and pay the entry fee in advance. There has been talk that you must pay for the girl at the same time you pay the entry fee, even if you don't know if you are going to session. This was not my experience. I only paid the entry fee upon entering and paid for the girl right before the session. Once you get your key you'll be able to change and check out the facilities. There is a nice shower area that has a wide range of things you might want to use on site. There's also massages available and I believe a sauna / steam room. Upstairs is a bar area that is a little small but that is where the girls hang out. There is also a stage. The girls here are more laid back and less aggressive. They may present themselves to you when you walk in, but you generally get less of a haggle here because the focus is more on customer service. This place is sort of famous because Justin Bieber visited a few years ago. It seems like the management is riding that wave in trying to present the image that it is way above the rest, though I'd say it is only marginally so due to the slightly above average girls and way above average facilities. Centaurus is located in between Ipa and Copa, so you can scooter or take a quick Uber here if you're staying in either of those places.
Monte Carlo. This place is within walking distance of the hotels mentioned in the earlier sections of this guide. You don't pay the entry fee up front and instead get your key to change into your robe. On the second floor are shower facilities and there is also a massage room and sauna room for use if you want. I'd say it is second in terms of facilities (Centaurus is better). The girls are a mix of high quality and not high quality. There were times I went when I was wholly unimpressed and also times when the quality was out of this world. In any case, I'd say the average is around 6. 5. For the convenience, I'd say this place is worth it and definitely worth checking out daily if you have the time. Some experienced mongers don't like this place as well because it is also expensive like Centaurus. But, expensive is in the eye of the beholder. You can get a few beers and a 40 minute session in a standard cabin for just over 500 are. That is fine by me.
4 x4. Experienced mongers love this place and I understand why. There is a broad range of quality here and something for everyone. Like brancas with big butts? They're here. Morena spinners? Here. Dark skinned athletic looking women? Also here. For the quality, the price range is phenomenal as well. You can get a girl for a 30 or 40 minute session in a standard cabin and have several beers for a little over R400. This makes it only marginally cheaper than Monte Carlo, which is worth noting I think. Key word here is marginally. 4 x4 is located in Centro, so it'll be about a 20 minute ride from Copa. Don't walk around alone in this area at night. You'll see guys hanging out in the entrance waiting for their Ubers to arrive, for good reason. This place is closed on weekends and I'd say the best time to come is between Tuesday and Thursday. There's a bar on the bottom floor below the boate that is a nice place to get away from the noise. There's also a smoke room on the 3rd floor that has a bar in it as well.
Whiskeria 65. I hesitated to add this place to the list because I actually didn't session here. I found the quality to be hit or miss every time. Sometimes I'd see something I liked, other times there was not one girl I would be interested in. There was one stellar looking blonde I intended to session with but she was always talking with someone else. This is a popular place among locals. Check it out on your way to or from 4 x4, just for the sake of it. Walk in and grab a beer. Walk out and pay your R70. Not much to lose here.
General advice: When you get to a new termas, wait 30-45 minutes before deciding whether to stay or leave. The best girls are usually taken so you have to wait and then be quick when they come out.
Online Escorts.
For the newbie monger (or even experienced monger) in a new city, I recommend steering clear of the photoaccompantes website. Instead, BarraVIP and Private55 are the go-to, generally reliable source. I had nothing but positive experiences with escorts from these sites. You can either go to them or they can come to you. If you go to them, expect R500 for 1 hour. I wouldn't pay more than that. These escorts tend to be higher end in terms of looks. Communicate with these girls on whatsapp (they call it "zap") and you can google their number to see if any reviews pop up, for better or worse.
Prives.
These are hit or miss depending on which ones you go to. There aren't really many options for higher end prives in Rio, though many swear by Onix and Eden Spa. These are highly rated on local review boards which honestly makes me not want to visit them. I had good experiences at Alternative Spa in Copacabana. It is expensive (about R450 for the massage and then you negotiate separately with the girl, about R250 or so), but I found it to be worth it as the massage itself was fantastic. RJ Massagem is generally pretty good as well, but can be hit or miss. Using the Rio map, I'd give some of these a try, but be cautious as they may not be as high end as one would expect.
Mabs and Dolce Vide
These deserve a category of their own. They are bars located in Copacabana near Leme. These bars have working girls sitting outside from opening to close. Best time to get here is around 11 or 12 at night. The talent here varies and I've heard many mixed reviews. I'm personally not a fan as I find the talent to be on the lower end, the girls more aggressive, and the prices too high for what you get. As these are located in Copa at are most popular at night, use your discretion when walking around. I've heard of guys having good experiences with girls from here and I've heard of guys getting robbed by girls. Not my scene to be honest so I won't delve too deep here.
Recommended 7 Day Travel Schedule.
Day 0 (Sunday): Arrive at GIG, go through customs, take an Uber to your hotel or Airbnb in Copacabana, Ipanema, or Leblon. If there is your first trip ever, I'd stick with Copacabana. Check in and start walking around the beach to just explore. Stop at the store and get the groceries and misc. Stuff you'll need for the week. Grab a drink and just take in the sights. Have dinner at any of the restaurants along the beach and just enjoy your first day on ground. Sundays are not good for the hobby as the termas worth going to are all closed. If you're really craving to get the ball rolling, hop on to BarraVIP or Private55 and message several of the girls until you can make an appointment with one.
Day 1 (Monday): Also a bad day for the hobby in Brazil, though things are open. Use this time to take a tour of the city and see some beautiful sights. In the late afternoon or early evening, contact a prive like Alternative Spa to see what their line-ups are. If someone suits your fancy, make an appointment and either walk, scooter, or Uber there. If none interest you, walk, scooter, or Uber on over to Monte Carlo. If nothing interests you there, check out Centaurus if you're willing to pay, but otherwise go back to the hotel and call up another BarraVIP to visit or to come to you.
Day 2 (Tuesday): Now, you are in the full swing of things. Start of the day by visting a prive, or a few. There are many around as shown on the WT map. Get this done in the morning (though selection is scarce usually before 2 pm) and then take a break for a few hours. Late afternoon head on over to Solarium. Stick around for a while, have a drink, have dinner, relax. Maybe get a couple sessions in. If no one here suits your fancy, take an uber to Centaurus or Monte Carlo where you can do the same thing. Tuesday-Thursday here is when you'll find the broadest scope of quality and quantity. Depending on your tastes, you'll prefer one place over another.
Day 3 (Wednesday): Do the same thing as Tuesday, except maybe give 4 x4 and Whiskeria 65 a whirl. From what I've been told and have seen myself, Wednesday and Thursdays are the best days for these venues.
Day 4 (Thursday): No change, except by this point you will likely have been to all the prives and termas worth going to for your own particular tastes. If you find yourself craving adventure or simply have different tastes, seek out a guide for a tier 2 termas or to take you to VM. Be prepared for a different scene. If you don't want to experience this tier 2 scene, then stick with the usual program of what you have enjoyed the most. Keep in mind, the quality at each termas and prive usually changes each day, so you may get lucky on your first go around or you may have to check out a few.
Day 5 (Friday): Friday is generally not as good as Tuesday-Thursday. This is because all the locals have less of an excuse to "grab a drink" after work with their co-workers and instead must head home to their families, at least so I've been told. Stick with whatever suits your fancy at recognize that your time in Brazil is quickly coming to an end.
Day 6 (Saturday): Last full day. No change in what you should be doing! The talent on Saturdays at various venues is generally not as good as during the week, so you may find the selection to be more limited.
Day 7 (Sunday): If you are flying back to the US, most flights leave at night while check out is usually around noon. If you are really trying to maximize your time, pre-arrange for an online escort to visit in the morning before you check-out. All termas are closed during the day so you'll be left to figure out something else to do for several hours before going to the airport. Perhaps walk the beach or visit another online escort at her location. Many of them have showers and whatnot that you can use as well to get cleaned up afterwards. Take a taxi back to the airport get there early because for some reason the Brazilians care a lot about being there a long time before your actual departure, especially for international trips.
Cost of 7 day trip (in USD):
Flight: $500-$1500 (depending on when you book and where you're coming from).
Hotel: $280-560 (depending on room preference).
Uber: $55.
Food / drinks: $450 if you want to eat and drink like a king, $150 if you want to cook on your own.
Laundry: $15 (if you're only here a week you may not even need to do this).
Hobbying: $700-$2000 (you can get by on 100 USD / day or less here and find some decent talent, but if you're trying to have 2 sessions a day with top shelf quality, it'll cost you a bit more).
Misc: $300.
Total for a 7 day trip: somewhere between $2000 on the low end and $5000 on the high end. A reasonable monger looking for quality and convenience can expect to pay around $3000 or so for the week. Yes, you can spend more or less depending on a variety of factors but $3000 is a fair budget to assume, including airfare.
[QUOTE=Onyx82;2577552]Yeah I saw that. Looked some clips on yt and looks very nice.
1. Ah so one day of travel then 3 full days there?
2. Ah okay, is it in Foz de Iguacu then?
And do you have any experience visiting Paraguay / Argentina at the same time? (Thinking why not take 3 countries in SA when I'm so close to them).
[/QUOTE]1. It might take a whole day with a connected flight. Try to get nonstop.
2. Yes, stay in Foz.
The Brazil side won't take much of your time, although it has some of the most wonderful sights, so don't skip it. But you'll need at least one day for the Argentinian side, and I would take 2 or at least 1. 5 days there because I hate rushing wonderful things. Visiting Paraguay as well as other tourist activities are tacky and a waste of time, IMHO, but you might want a day to relax by the pool or to actually monger. 3 full days should be perfect, 4 if you want some time to relax.
We stayed in a fantastic 3 bdrm Airbnb with a private pool under $100 a night. Accommodations are cheap in Iguassu.
So three days for sightseeings.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2577610]1. It might take a whole day with a connected flight. Try to get nonstop.
2. Yes, stay in Foz.
The Brazil side won't take much of your time, although it has some of the most wonderful sights, so don't skip it. But you'll need at least one day for the Argentinian side, and I would take 2 or at least 1. 5 days there because I hate rushing wonderful things. Visiting Paraguay as well as other tourist activities are tacky and a waste of time, IMHO, but you might want a day to relax by the pool or to actually monger. 3 full days should be perfect, 4 if you want some time to relax.
We stayed in a fantastic 3 bdrm Airbnb with a private pool under $100 a night. Accommodations are cheap in Iguassu.
So three days for sightseeings.[/QUOTE]He may not be able to get into Argentina.
[URL]https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/south-america/argentina/travel-alert[/URL]
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2577623]He may not be able to get into Argentina.
[URL]https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/south-america/argentina/travel-alert[/URL][/QUOTE]I'll not be going until August next year when I turn 40.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2577610]1. It might take a whole day with a connected flight. Try to get nonstop.
2. Yes, stay in Foz.
The Brazil side won't take much of your time, although it has some of the most wonderful sights, so don't skip it. But you'll need at least one day for the Argentinian side, and I would take 2 or at least 1. 5 days there because I hate rushing wonderful things. Visiting Paraguay as well as other tourist activities are tacky and a waste of time, IMHO, but you might want a day to relax by the pool or to actually monger. 3 full days should be perfect, 4 if you want some time to relax.
We stayed in a fantastic 3 bdrm Airbnb with a private pool under $100 a night. Accommodations are cheap in Iguassu..[/QUOTE]1. a whole day even flying from Rio?
Wow so bad connections in Brazil then xD.
2. Yeah that's what I thought.
About Paraguay it's just that I want to be able to tick off another country in my to visit list (and when I'm so close and most likely never will go there in another trip so then I'll just visit a quicky.
If I've not seen wrong so is Paraguay half of the city and the other part is in Brazil?
So you would recommend booking Foz threw Airbnd?
Thanks for all the tips and so on.
Will most likely spend 5 days in total with trips back and forth to Foz and Rio.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2577623]He may not be able to get into Argentina.
[URL]https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/south-america/argentina/travel-alert[/URL][/QUOTE]For a second there forgot about the times we're living in.
[QUOTE=Onyx82;2576908]Thanks so much for the tips.
Tbh I usually do some exploring in Thailand but I prefer relaxing and do some mongering, the Iguassu Falls seemed nice. How long does it take to get there from Rio?
And should I bring a bird with me from Rio?
I also prefer / like to go to some cinema whenever I visit a country and just roam a bit in the mall to see how it is.
Haha yeah I might need to do a lot of cardio before leaving xD.
Ah okay, oh well worse English than Thailand but more chance of anal xD.
How is it with getting LT with birds?
Is it harder then Thailand? (I prefer a LT over ST because I like to cuddle also xD not just fuck and bye bye).[/QUOTE]If you go to Foz, you should also visit the Itaipu dam. It sounds boring, but it's not. If you go, take the longest tour and you will see the turbines and control room etc. The dam is almost 8 km long and 200 m high. Very interesting.
I like to sit in beer bars in Thailand and play games with the workers. If we get along I can take her back to hotel. Does Rio have something similar? I don't need sex everyday and enjoy the company. I like sitting outside at a bar relaxing with a friendly woman.
Also my plan is to go to Rio, stay in an Airbnb for a couple days then figure out things as I go. I want to be there for a month. Should I have a better plan?
Thanks for any advice or help.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2577704]I like to sit in beer bars in Thailand and play games with the workers. If we get along I can take her back to hotel. Does Rio have something similar? I don't need sex everyday and enjoy the company. I like sitting outside at a bar relaxing with a friendly woman.
Also my plan is to go to Rio, stay in an Airbnb for a couple days then figure out things as I go. I want to be there for a month. Should I have a better plan?[/QUOTE]There is nothing like this in Brazil. At all. Closest thing might be to sit and hang out with some hookers at Mab's but they're not getting paid by the bar or by the "lady drink" and if you don't express interest in their services they will walk. I don't think its a good idea to "figure things out as I go", and yes you should have a better plan.
I was once in your shoes, and many mongers that formerly would have visited SEA are now gravitating towards SA, but they are categorically different destinations. You might start by reading the forum (RTFM), and then ask questions. TiaVoyager just wrote a comprehensive guide for newbies that could get you started.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2577704]I like to sit in beer bars in Thailand and play games with the workers. If we get along I can take her back to hotel. Does Rio have something similar? I don't need sex everyday and enjoy the company. I like sitting outside at a bar relaxing with a friendly woman.
Also my plan is to go to Rio, stay in an Airbnb for a couple days then figure out things as I go. I want to be there for a month. Should I have a better plan?
Thanks for any advice or help.[/QUOTE]Never been in Thailand but don't think you will find anything similiar here, at least I didn't.
Lack of English language around and not enough of good women in every day life is something that you will need to deal with in Rio.
Airbnb offers good value for money.
Most buildings have doorman or receiption but don't bother asking owner can you bring someone as you might get No for answer but in reality is different from my experience.
Be careful where is appartment located as most of then in Copa are just hanging over street and is too noisy to sleep.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2577564]Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio. [/QUOTE]Excellent!!
Gents,
I commend senhor TIAVoyage25, but I beg to differ.
First, I would say that TIA is among the best monger brothers that Vagabundo has seen, but not the best -- that would go to Players 2 and 3 -- not that this is a competition. I'd gladly go out on a pussy patrol with TIA in my dream team of battle buddies to have fun with.
The best place to stay in Rio is Transamerica, av gastao senges 395. Players 2 and 3 were here on their first trip, they were both rich world mongers, and they stayed for 2 months, an optimal time. Really anyone coming to Rio should stay at least a month.
The second best place to stay is in a Airbnb at or near Rua Sao Clemente 114 -- plus or minus 100 digits either way. The reason is proximity to the metro. I differ from Senhor TIA in that Botafogo is a great neighborhood. Trattoria is a great spot to eat, but: 1) Copa really is dangerous, not for a fit and alert guy like TIA, but one witnesses fights over a mere bike as a regular occurence, 2) you, the sex tourist, are the target, even on a nightly walk from posto 4 to 4.5 to get an uber on ave nossa copa, or around the tip of copa near the fort from the beach at arpoador, the aggressive criminals will stalk, and one must be defensive. Even Mr. E's brother had criminals rip off stuff.
Third, the most important thing is simply to RTFF -- not this forum, alone, but.
[URL]gparena.net[/URL]
And make a list. Like.
[URL]https://www.rioencontro.com.br/stefany-hot/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rioencontro.com.br/ivy/[/URL]
Experienced mongers like Bravo roll in with a "hit list" of the prives, that can easily be correlated with the numbers on the above girls, both of whom I have been fucking.
Stephany is at TDM33/3206 -- the prive with the big queen bed overlooking Guanabara harbor from the 32nd floor.
Ivy is at Bel Prazer.
And on.
ISG is fine, the best English blog for sex travelers; gparena is gold, may need some translation work, but is the best single source. Make your list. Make a spreadsheet. Vagabundo has one from 2011,90 pages long.
Players 2 and 3 were good friends, relatives, travel buddies from the rich world. They are readers but not writers on this forum, perhaps the smartest way to go, and by the looks of it the majority of users on this forum.
You can go back through my posts and find all the key points about Transamerica.
As for distance, there is a daily free bus. The schedule is on the website, which I have posted here.
But the key to Transamerica is that this is where all the best girls are, where they start out.
Players 2 and 3 had each other to keep company, and then we teamed up, I being player 1. We hit the centro prives and the casas, the trash termas. Those guys were animals. They'd fast 2-3 days a week, drink just water, and fuck more girls, like 5 girls a day. We'd rage into the centro spots and trade girls willy nilly. They are still talked about and asked for among the spots, and among the VM spots. Anyone who says VM is not the source of some of the best new girls does not know Rio. OK, the average aerospace engineering major from Ohio who goes into banking and stays at the Marriot is not going to want to deal with the smell at VM, but as I have said, and sperto has pointed out, there is a hotel, Canario, on Rua Ceara in VM. The best terma after hours is Mosaico, for the real talent.
It was not just Players 2 and 3, there were other first time mongers who have done well at Transamerica. FLCN was on his first trip, again, many months, and his last several months were at Transamerica. Mandingoblack tried to get into Transamerica, without success, and went with [URL]KSPortal.com.br[/URL] at Barra Posto1 instead.
We men who pay for sex are all, invariably, dominant types. Once we have paid, we naturally think we are the king of the world, the most interesting man in the world, the uber male. Maybe we fucked brancas in tier one termas like Senhor Athens Cain, or maybe we did the 80% or 98% same quality (see Stephany, above) at the prives like Senhor Spartan Experto. But, having shot our monetary and bodily wads, we crave adulation, like so many Hemingway / Flemings writing about our secret agent exploits, wanting immortality like Bond.
In this reviewers opinion, modest though it is, but based on a solid 15 months and counting operating in this sad, squalid, but happiest place on earth for a man to pay for sex, the best mongers have found a home at Transamerica, Barra posto 6, or at KSPortal, barra posto 1. Those mongers follow a inverse rule -- less is more. Players 2 and 3 never posted here, never got sucked into any competitions imagined or contrived, but they hit home runs, scored goaaaalls. FLCN, and Mandingoblack, similarly liked Barra for the relative safety compared to other parts of Rio.
Centro, Vagabundo agrees, is not for the faint of heart. But Jimmyboy99 chose well in Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower at Rua Visconde Inhuama 95, and if he and Vagabundo can manage the risk of centro darkside, then anyone can. Vagabundo lived at Copa posto 5 near Othon for 3 months, but did not like the stalking street criminals, who are more than pests, they are the kind of grinding, omnipresent reminders of criminal potential that can go kinetic in 5 seconds.
In barra, there is none of that. It is thus worth the 30 minutes on the free luxury bus to get to centro, indeed, it is preferable. And if you like to swim, the water is clean, the beaches are beautiful. And of course, at Transamerica, the hookers are all at the pool.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2577564]Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2577564]Recommended 7 Day Travel Schedule.
Day 0 (Sunday): Arrive at GIG, go through customs, take an Uber to your hotel or Airbnb in Copacabana, Ipanema, or Leblon. If there is your first trip ever, I'd stick with Copacabana. Check in and start walking around the beach to just explore. Stop at the store and get the groceries and misc. Stuff you'll need for the week. Grab a drink and just take in the sights. Have dinner at any of the restaurants along the beach and just enjoy your first day on ground. Sundays are not good for the hobby as the termas worth going to are all closed. If you're really craving to get the ball rolling, hop on to BarraVIP or Private55 and message several of the girls until you can make an appointment with one.
Day 1 (Monday): Also a bad day for the hobby in Brazil, though things are open. Use this time to take a tour of the city and see some beautiful sights. In the late afternoon or early evening, contact a prive like Alternative Spa to see what their line-ups are. If someone suits your fancy, make an appointment and either walk, scooter, or Uber there. If none interest you, walk, scooter, or Uber on over to Monte Carlo. If nothing interests you there, check out Centaurus if you're willing to pay, but otherwise go back to the hotel and call up another BarraVIP to visit or to come to you.
Day 2 (Tuesday): Now, you are in the full swing of things. Start of the day by visting a prive, or a few. There are many around as shown on the WT map. Get this done in the morning (though selection is scarce usually before 2 pm) and then take a break for a few hours. Late afternoon head on over to Solarium. Stick around for a while, have a drink, have dinner, relax. Maybe get a couple sessions in. If no one here suits your fancy, take an uber to Centaurus or Monte Carlo where you can do the same thing. Tuesday-Thursday here is when you'll find the broadest scope of quality and quantity..[/QUOTE]Good sir, thank you very much for this guide; this is exactly what a newbie like me is looking for.
I'm curious about the negotiation. Is that a difficult process if one knows little Portuguese?
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2577564]Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio. Keep in mind that this guide was made for the newbie, not the experienced monger spending a long time on ground. As such, my recommendations reflect 1.) my own bias and 2.) my own perception of how to maximize one's time and experience without necessarily a big focus on saving some money.....[/QUOTE]A veritable report of distinction. You have made those few mongers gnashing their teeth over Hemingway analogies here very happy.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2577809]Anyone who says VM is not the source of some of the best new girls does not know Rio.[/QUOTE]Ouch, that hurt, especially coming from a distinguished and talented libertine like senor Vagabundo. Can my love for Mosaico be my saving grace?
Look, I won't say there are no diamonds to be found in VM, but why bother? Aren't there already enough avenues in Rio for good, clean fun, LOL?
Of course you can take them to Canario, but after tacking on the cost of the room, wouldn't you arrive at a typical prive pricing?
Now, if you're living in Rio and building your own harem, then I can see the point of finding some fresh innocent maidens in VM's urine-soaked alleys and saving them for yourself from the world of wholesale prostitution. But for a short-time visitor, like me, I just can't understand the appeal.
Tell you what, though, when I finally get to Rio, I promise to give it another chance.
I wanted to add in a few more thoughts for newbies that I learned on my trip.
Online Meetups.
When you are using the online sites, I would recommend sending out texts to a few options rather than just picking one girl. They appear to be handling their own messages so you may have to deal with them being busy or non-responsive. Once you have scheduled a time, understand that punctuality is a relative term to Cariocas. At least half of my meetups were about an 30 minutes to an hour late. So I would argue to just be aware that you either need to be very firm about the time or ensure that you are adding in a decent amount of leeway to your time. Here is a very important note for English only speakers, there are certain sites like RioSexSite and allow you to filter based on English speaking ability. Be wary of this and use common sense. When texting, if the girl is unable to respond in passable English, she probably won't be very good at speaking. I found a big difference in my texts between those who really knew the language and those who didn't. In my opinion, I would hesitate to put too much faith in stuff like that. It is much easier in my view to send out a few texts saying you only know English and those who can respond will respond. As others (and I) have mentioned, GPArena is a godsend for reviews. I would recommend using escorts that have reviews on those sites and avoid those who don't. Popping those reviews into google translate will tell you all you need to know.
Also, I don't know if others are doing this or not, but be cool. I had a girl who told me that foreign guys get too constricted and worried when ordering in. Remember, it's not illegal in Brazil and as long as you have a GFE friendly hotel (Pestana was a bit rundown but it was definitely friendly), there is nothing to be worried about. I remember my own apprehension during my first trip years back, so I understand the worry, but you'll have a much better time if you loosen up.
Repeat Costs.
Second time meetups really were much better than the first, even for cost. Overall, I found that the cost was 400-500 R / HR for the first time. But when I ordered a repeat, I often got similar quotes for the whole night. You may have to work on their schedule when they are free, but I really felt like Brazilian women understood the concept of dating. The pernoite really did feel more connected once they know you and you'll have much better service. One caveat, some of the more beautiful and popular escorts will not negotiate that much. They know their value and may still quote at least 1000 for a pernoite (I couldn't move them down any further than that). So, you will have to bite the bullet if you really like the girl or find someone else.
Crime.
I stayed in Copa and I had no issue with crime. If you are worried about that kind of stuff, stay on the beachfront for peace of mind. The area is well-lit and there are cop cars every few blocks all night long. Don't be stupid and don't get too wasted, but I felt very safe in Copa and Ipanema when I stayed on the beaten track.
Travel.
As others have mentioned, just use Uber for traveling. Most every trip I had cost between 20-35 R while tops out at 7 USD.
In regards to my experience at the encontro, I talked with my co-worker and he claims that only some of the girls were online / termas girls that get zapped for these business events. He was shooting some shit about model agencies and such and maybe he is right, but that kinda struck me as a bit of boasting. He is a lower level account manager so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't even have the details of it. Regardless, during my time in Rio and Sao Paulo, I found that many of the high-end escorts (online) were just as beautiful, toned, and service-oriented as that night.
Safado69 and I did a patrol of Perola Negra and Paris tonight. The cover is 30. The talent was not good, I did not session at either.
It's kind of the off season.
Yes, I think my game is to build up the harem from some of the prives, trash termas, and a few odd pulls from the tier 1 termas over time, not to mention from the freelancers. The freelancers are the top of the food chain, as they choose who they fuck, in contrast to the others.
Mosaico is the real deal, the source of the best mini relationships over the years. The best were a mineira with natural tits, a part negra who did great pernoites. A few others. New girls from 502, and from the darkside. It is true, the darkside is hit and miss. T31 yielded my best mini relationship this year, yet, on many nights t31 has almost nothing, just 2 girls.
4 x 4 is consistently the best now. There are some of the finest rio hookers there now. Perhaps the cream of the Rio hooker crop has flown north to Cancun for the southern hemisphere winter, or to some other venue. But there are always the usual suspects to fill up the dance card for pernoites. And then there are some of the tier 1 prospects, the real porn stars in the making, who need to be tapped. A few good wingmen are in town, now, not so much of a rat pack, but a pair of quality hitters, solid operators, the optimal situation.
Mosaico, yes, it is a saving grace.
And for those who dislike writing for its own sake, among the libertine culture which is Portugal's inheritance to Brazil, and to men, look over on the Brazilian boards, to writers like Dante, who write, to write, to write for oneself, whether to be read as an afterthought, who write about the same streets we patrol, about lapa, and centro, Rio Branco, and Vila Mimosa. They write about themselves in the third person, about themselves from the perspective of an omnipresent narrator, neither God nor Devil, yet the over monger, about the night itself, as a veil which follows us as we monger on, like Santana playing for a Tijuana strip club, or like Perola Negra playing in a Porto Allegre dance club.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2578105]Can my love for Mosaico be my saving grace?
Tell you what, though, when I finally get to Rio, I promise to give it another chance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Week53;2577814]Good sir, thank you very much for this guide; this is exactly what a newbie like me is looking for.
I'm curious about the negotiation. Is that a difficult process if one knows little Portuguese?[/QUOTE]Google translate on your phone will do the job for you. No worries.
[QUOTE=Week53;2577814]Good sir, thank you very much for this guide; this is exactly what a newbie like me is looking for...[/QUOTE] indeed, excellent report
Further, the metro is one of the great mongering routes of the world. The metro not just from Copa's stops to centro (Carioca, Uruguiana, Presidente Vargas, Central), but out to Metro Sans Pena (Annes Massagem).
I like the Metro and not just the metro the city buses, like the 457, which goes from copa to zona Norte.
It may be a degree of difficulty, but it is a worthwhile challenge to pick up girls on the buses.
Moreover, the spots like Vitirrini in Barra and the night spots in Gavea / Leblon are the locals of some of the best non pros.
Hey guys,
I needed some help from VM vets here. I'm a 35 year old crazy sex addict and have probably fucked over 500 women in my time many of them escorts and hookers around the world so I'm not afraid of visiting seedy / grimy areas. I look like a latino guy so don't stand out like a sore thumb. I love Bareback sex and touchwood haven't gotten anything yet. Recently got tested again and everything came back negative.
Anyways I wanted to go to VM on a 2 Day Rampage and what that essentially means is that.
A) I will only drink / eat light Soups and not eat any food. Just Water.
B) I get naturally very very hard but still will be using a 100 MG Viagra for ultimate pleasure maybe some molly if available.
C) I Want to fuck 4 women every day each for 3-4 hours (anal, bareback sex, rough rugged play).
D) This is my ideal Scenario.
9 AM - 12 PM (Girl 1) Rest for 2 hours.
2 PM - 5 PM (Girl 2) Rest for 2 hours.
7 PM - 10 PM (Girl 3) - Rest for 2 Hours.
12 AM - 3 AM (Girl 4) - Go Back to Hotel and sleep for 6/7 Hours and Repeat from 9 AM.
What I need help with is basically a place or a room that I can stay for the whole day in the heart of VM, be able to walk out select a girl bring her back for 3 hours, then go back out again select another girl and bring her back for 3 hours. My Budget Per day is $800 Dollars.
Is what I mentioned possible? I love grimy, sweaty, rugged sex hence why I prefer VM to a more upscale area.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2577564]Head over to the ATMs directly in front of the elevators that will take you to the second floor and get cash, if you so desire. Like with all ATMs, there is a fee associated with it but it is marginal (in the realm of a couple dollars). Some people don't believe in getting money here and prefer to pinch pennies by finding other locations for exchange, but this guide is about convenience and quality, rather than using limited time on getting a few more dollars. There's no right or wrong answer as it is your money and your time.
[/QUOTE]First of all this is an excellent guide for the new Rio Visitor. Also about the ATM in the airport, through the years the only caution I've read about this ATM was not about costs but about security. Not sure if this is true today but this ATM there have been many complaints that a card reader was installed and your ATM card was being copied and used to empty your accounts, so be careful. Plus if you're advocating using uber you don't need any cash until you get into town and use a better method like exchanging cash or a more secure ATM in a bank. Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2578161]Safado69 and I did a patrol of Perola Negra and Paris tonight. The cover is 30. The talent was not good, I did not session at either.
It's kind of the off season.
Yes, I think my game is to build up the harem from some of the prives, trash termas, and a few odd pulls from the tier 1 termas over time, not to mention from the freelancers. The freelancers are the top of the food chain, as they choose who they fuck, in contrast to the others.
Mosaico is the real deal, the source of the best mini relationships over the years. The best were a mineira with natural tits, a part negra who did great pernoites. A few others. New girls from 502, and from the darkside. It is true, the darkside is hit and miss. T31 yielded my best mini relationship this year, yet, on many nights t31 has almost nothing, just 2 girls.
4 x 4 is consistently the best now. There are some of the finest rio hookers there now. Perhaps the cream of the Rio hooker crop has flown north to Cancun for the southern hemisphere winter, or to some other venue. But there are always the usual suspects to fill up the dance card for pernoites. And then there are some of the tier 1 prospects, the real porn stars in the making, who need to be tapped. A few good wingmen are in town, now, not so much of a rat pack, but a pair of quality hitters, solid operators, the optimal situation..[/QUOTE]Vagabundo, I'm Portuguese. Portugal culture is far from libertine, we are much more alike Italians. Women have always ruled the households, behind the patriarch culture in the past, it was matriarch in some way.
Brazilian libertine culture is much more due to the African descent. It's very noticeable if you go to south, Santa Catarina, Porto Alegre, where women are much more introverted and difficult to approach. Or even São Paulo.
What I can say is that globalization has it Europe much like the USA, and over here it's a sex prison as well. And Brazil is going the same way in the future, specially given the political stance over there, All we can do is take the last shots in that paradise.
I'm hoping to get to Rio in near future, maybe my Portuguese Will be of some help.
Sheik hotel.
250 ir 300 r.
Standing bareback anal while declaring to ave Gomes Freire, "papa Francisco ama você", priceless.
Mosaico talent.
Men anyone can shoot big game in a zoo.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2578105]Ouch, that hurt, especially coming from a distinguished and talented libertine like senor Vagabundo. Can my love for Mosaico be my saving grace?
Look, I won't say there are no diamonds to be found in VM, but why bother? Aren't there already enough avenues in Rio for good, clean fun, LOL?
Of course you can take them to Canario, but after tacking on the cost of the room, wouldn't you arrive at a typical prive pricing?
Now, if you're living in Rio and building your own harem, then I can see the point of finding some fresh innocent maidens in VM's urine-soaked alleys and saving them for yourself from the world of wholesale prostitution. But for a short-time visitor, like me, I just can't understand the appeal.
Tell you what, though, when I finally get to Rio, I promise to give it another chance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2578325]A) I will only drink / eat light Soups and not eat any food. Just Water.
[/QUOTE]My favorite part of this whole vignette- it's like he is preparing to transcend the astral plane by partaking in a religious sacrament which requires a state of purification and ablution.
This is either a brilliant troll or someone who will definitely soon have one or many venereal diseases and a dick that looks like pulverized meat.
Either way I have no idea about your question concerning a suitable room for you to operate in but I'm sure Vagabundo1 or some other aficionado will answer the call.
Friday, Vagabundo went into centro, met Nina Deponca at Largo do Machado, where she once worked in a prive. After they went to centro on some business, they headed to sheik hotel on Gomes Freire. It was 180 for 4 hours with 4 beers, hydromassagem. Two pops, good to see her again. She had been taking care of her old man, who is recovered. Now, 40 year olds are being vaccinated. My impression is the endemic is receding. Good fucking.
Walked through the streets of downtown, through Uruguiana -- the street traffic was heavy, the urban vibe fun, had some awesome fries at the corner of Vargas and Uruguiana. She waited for a bus to Zona Norte near Club 116.
Men, I have to say. The talent is superb. Not only anne amari quality negras, but the hottest -- 9's, easily -- quality morena and morena claras. The party was for a morena named kiara. She is smoking hot.
OK, I can see why it is not friendly to gringo tourists, mainly language.
Also the smoke, which is really hard to deal with.
It is a locals joint. There is no nice English speaking lady to hold your hand. It is one step up from VM, but that is a big step. But the talent.
OMFG. There were two morenas in there who are Porn Star quality. And it is 16 US Dollars to fuck them for a half.
Vagabundo did a negra who does BBFS again, but he will be back.
A ISG member who is anon is in town and Vagabundo looks forward to linking up. The other guys who are in town -- bravo and Safado69 -- are solid wingmen / operators and it is great to monger with them.
Life is good.
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2578325]Anyways I wanted to go to VM on a 2 Day Rampage and what that essentially means is that.
A) I will only drink / eat light Soups and not eat any food. Just Water.
B) I get naturally very very hard but still will be using a 100 MG Viagra for ultimate pleasure maybe some molly if available.
C) I Want to fuck 4 women every day each for 3-4 hours (anal, bareback sex, rough rugged play).[/QUOTE]Is this what late-game mongering looks like? I feel like my heart would give out.
Since I had nothing to do I was on social media and saw a site that had videos and pictures, might be and alternative source.
[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/[/URL]
Anyone familiar with this site?
Its my go to site. It is good. Correlate with gparena, but it is good.
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2578554]Since I had nothing to do I was on social media and saw a site that had videos and pictures, might be and alternative source.
[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/[/URL]
Anyone familiar with this site?[/QUOTE]
TIA's post has me thinking of what a sustainable weekly budget is. In swimming, the athlete seeks to maximize the glide.
Whoring.
3 pernoites, 300 each, 300 more for food / uber. Two shots at night, two in the morning. Get the girls from darkside termas or VM, or some of the Tier 1 termas. 400 pernoite for a Tier 1 girl, maybe 2 times a week during the honeymoon period, the first few weeks, months. Or a motel for 4 hours like sheik in centro.
Travel. 4 or 5 ubers per week, minimized by using the free bus as much as possible. Spread out over almost 2 years, the 800 USD in round trip flight for 1 month turned into 21 months or more comes out at less than 40 USD a month.
Entrada at a few tier 1 termas a week. 110 r (4 x4, Perola, Paris).
Food. 100 r in groceries from guanabara buys bolinhos de bacalau, honey, azeite, coffee, filter. Another 150 for uber eats or equivalent (rappi).
The 6 S's at Transamerica. Shit shower shave supper sex sleep. 3200 r a month (5 g Internet is an extra 200 reais; call the front desk and ask for rafa). A view of the Atlantic horizon from a high rise condo in barra, priceless.
Pro Forma Weekly Budget.
TIA's post has me thinking of what a sustainable weekly budget is. In swimming, the athlete seeks to maximize the glide.
Whoring.
3 pernoites, 300 each, 300 more for food / uber. Two shots at night, two in the morning. Get the girls from darkside termas or VM, or some of the Tier 1 termas. 400 pernoite for a Tier 1 girl, maybe 2 times a week during the honeymoon period, the first few weeks, months. Or a motel for 4 hours like sheik in centro.
1800.
Travel. 4 or 5 ubers per week, minimized by using the free bus as much as possible. Spread out over almost 2 years, the 800 USD in round trip flight for 1 month turned into 21 months or more comes out at less than 40 USD a month.
200, amortized.
Entrada at a few tier 1 termas a week. 110 r (4 x4, Perola, Paris).
110.
Food. 100 r in groceries from guanabara buys bolinhos de bacalau, honey, azeite, coffee, filter. Another 150 for uber eats or equivalent (rappi).
250.
The 6 S's at Transamerica. Shit shower shave supper sex sleep. 3200 r a month (5 g Internet is an extra 200 reais; call the front desk and ask for rafa). A view of the Atlantic horizon from a high rise condo in barra, priceless.
750.
3000 reais, or 600 dollars per week. Thus calculated, I go now go to swim.
Generally, Paris and Perola are best after 11 pm or midnight.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2578161]Safado69 and I did a patrol of Perola Negra and Paris tonight. The cover is 30. The talent was not good, I did not session at either.
It's kind of the off season.
Yes, I think my game is to build up the harem from some of the prives, trash termas, and a few odd pulls from the tier 1 termas over time, not to mention from the freelancers. The freelancers are the top of the food chain, as they choose who they fuck, in contrast to the others.
Mosaico is the real deal, the source of the best mini relationships over the years. The best were a mineira with natural tits, a part negra who did great pernoites. A few others. New girls from 502, and from the darkside. It is true, the darkside is hit and miss. T31 yielded my best mini relationship this year, yet, on many nights t31 has almost nothing, just 2 girls..[/QUOTE]
Herr Conrad.
Me thinks it is a troll allusion to my saying players 2 and 3 fasted and fucked 5 boomers a day.
Málaga would be the base he seeks.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2578444]My favorite part of this whole vignette- it's like he is preparing to transcend the astral plane by partaking in a religious sacrament which requires a state of purification and ablution.
This is either a brilliant troll or someone who will definitely soon have one or many venereal diseases and a dick that looks like pulverized meat.
Either way I have no idea about your question concerning a suitable room for you to operate in but I'm sure Vagabundo1 or some other aficionado will answer the call.[/QUOTE]
There was slim, hot negra at perola.
But when vagabundo mentioned, pernoite 400, twice a week, she said, oh, 400 is a hour.
Uggg.
The pricing these hookers get from their clubs is a turn off.
Vagabundo writes this as he sits waiting or Ana Foxx to come to Transamerica for a day of fucking, including anal yippeeee, for 350 reais.
One can get solarium girls for 400 pernoite, a few times a week, one just has to be persistent and make a market. On the other hand, once one fucks in the tier 1 terma, then the girl gets her cpf (cost per fuck) anchored, and it is hard to un anchor. Hence, one must make a market. That is, one must have a list of dozens, down select to have a dozen, and have a top 3 always percolating to the top.
Or one can pay up.
Also a positive note on anaggie's romp with 4 4 x4 girls -- that's a good performance for 8 hours. Good on ya, come back and do it again.
To add to the literature of prostitution, vagabundo listened to Marquez, "memories of my melancholy working girls" about a 90 year old picking a virgin for a birthday present to himself. By those metrices, we can look forward to many more seasons of whoring in Rio. Whoring working girls by *****mongers. Libertines, we few, we band of brothers.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2578161]Safado69 and I did a patrol of Perola Negra and Paris tonight. The cover is 30. The talent was not good, I did not session at either.
It's kind of the off season.
Yes, I think my game is to build up the harem from some of the prives, trash termas, and a few odd pulls from the tier 1 termas over time, not to mention from the freelancers. The freelancers are the top of the food chain, as they choose who they fuck, in contrast to the others.
Mosaico is the real deal, the source of the best mini relationships over the years. The best were a mineira with natural tits, a part negra who did great pernoites. A few others. New girls from 502, and from the darkside. It is true, the darkside is hit and miss. T31 yielded my best mini relationship this year, yet, on many nights t31 has almost nothing, just 2 girls..[/QUOTE]
Anyone know where in copa I might be able watch the UFC fight tonight?
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2578626]Herr Conrad.
Me thinks it is a troll allusion to my saying players 2 and 3 fasted and fucked 5 boomers a day.
Mlaga would be the base he seeks.[/QUOTE]Haha not a troll post Vagabundo1, a real one. Care to elaborate a little on what Malaga is about I will be visiting Rio from the 6th till the 10th, happy to do some hardcore mongering with you LOL.
Saturday afternoon, Vagabundo had Ana Foxxx over. It was a pretty great fuck. It started with her all oiled up with half a bottle of baby oil, DFK, just bent her over and put it in her pussy from behind on the bed. Fucked for a while in doggy, then DATY until she came. Then fucked her ass, and came in her ass.
We went to Hula Hula at Posto 7, which was crowded. The plan was to take pics, but the sun was setting. She ordered picanha, which was a mistake. I ordered fish and chips, and we shared shrimp sauteed in olive oil (paulista) which are consistently excellent. We had a bottle of rose from a South African vinter. Senegalese vendors come by, and Vagabundo consistently networks with these guys. Real insiders study personnel.
We came back, and fucked again, it was a pretty animalistic fucking. Mish, doggy for the finish, oral in between, watching Ana Foxx porn with a girl who bears a resemblance but is 20, not 31 or more. Paid her 400, plus uber, plus 300 for dinner.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2578669]
Also a positive note on anaggie's romp with 4 4 x4 girls -- that's a good performance for 8 hours. Good on ya, come back and do it again.[/QUOTE]Ticket booked and confirmed for mid August arrival into Rio. One night at 4 x4 followed by three nights saved for Scandello .. if it stays open and is running almost normal. If not, change of plans and maybe more time in Rio. Let’s see how things are as the date gets closer.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2578444]My favorite part of this whole vignette- it's like he is preparing to transcend the astral plane by partaking in a religious sacrament which requires a state of purification and ablution.
This is either a brilliant troll or someone who will definitely soon have one or many venereal diseases and a dick that looks like pulverized meat.....[/QUOTE]Man, this made me laugh harder than I've ever laughed on ISG. Yep, I can't wait for his trip report.
Its going to be a long wait.
Post #1 kkk.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2578969]Man, this made me laugh harder than I've ever laughed on ISG. Yep, I can't wait for his trip report.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.hotelmalaga.com.br/[/URL]
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2578852]Haha not a troll post Vagabundo1, a real one. Care to elaborate a little on what Malaga is about I will be visiting Rio from the 6th till the 10th, happy to do some hardcore mongering with you LOL.[/QUOTE]
If you really want to do what you outlined, then Malaga would be a good base.
You can't really expect 3 hours of sex 4 times a day at VM.
I mean, you could but the pricing is 120 for an hour. It will be better just to get some regulars, and to negotiate a better rate than just paying up 120 for an hour.
The other logistical option would be to stay at Hotel Atlantico Tower at Rua Visconde Inhuama 95, and to take a bus and or uber to VM. Staying at this hotel will also put you in walking distance of Clube 116 and Terma 31, and all the centro tier 2 or trash termas, which have the same quality, and the same girls in many cases as VM.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2579076][URL]https://www.hotelmalaga.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]
I had one of the worst experiences of my mongering life in the Blue house in Anil. A board member recommended this place, on the advice of a local.
The girl said she would do DFK and BBBJ, and then refused. I only got 20 minutes for 100 r because I wanted to limit the risk of just this BS. Maybe I was being a little cheap, and maybe that affected the session, but in any case, this place is a definite no go for any foreign mongers. She employed every time waster in the book.
Moreover, the selection was bad. There was one slim loira, 19, who said she would not DFK, and would not BBBJ. Maybe that was because I wouldn't buy her food, but screw it, I am not the red cross for broke Brazilian hookers. The rest of the stable was not very good. Much better at Paris, Perola, or 4 x 4.
It reinforces my usual routine which is to get numbers, and then make a market for pernoites. This procedure works well for me.
Absolutely do not go to this place.
Well, since you are apparently legit, here is my input.
Stay at motel malaga, pernoite.
You need to figure out when the check in / out is.
You can take girls there and fuck them there, which is better.
Mosaico is best after 24 h, and you should look to session in mosaico two times a night, eg, 02 h, 04 h.
You should also add to the VM routine, the best prives in the Tijuca area, which are annes at sans pena metro, and massagemtijuca, which is across the street from Maracana stadium.
VM is 24/7/365.
The best times for VM are in the afternoon (see Sperto's posts on this). Post up at the northern entrance to VM at a bar, with a beverage, and just watch the girls come to work, and early evening, ditto. You would want to catch the girls BEFORE they get to their casa because once they get there to their casa, there is some tia (aunt), the universal name for the older, ugly jabba the hut (who once was a princess leia) looking semi human who is looking to take 50% of her earnings. You want to get her first, and she and you can do the math. The 80 r for a half hour in VM really means 40 for her, so 80 should be a reasonable rate for an hour with you.
You can PM me and maybe we can do some pussy patrols. I am with sperto on this subject, I find it safer to patrol alone or with the few who have proven they can be one of us. The highlanders of Rio de Janeiro. There can be only one.
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2578325]Hey guys,
I needed some help from VM vets here. I'm a 35 year old crazy sex addict and have probably fucked over 500 women in my time many of them escorts and hookers around the world so I'm not afraid of visiting seedy / grimy areas. I look like a latino guy so don't stand out like a sore thumb. I love Bareback sex and touchwood haven't gotten anything yet. Recently got tested again and everything came back negative.
Anyways I wanted to go to VM on a 2 Day Rampage and what that essentially means is that.
A) I will only drink / eat light Soups and not eat any food. Just Water.
B) I get naturally very very hard but still will be using a 100 MG Viagra for ultimate pleasure maybe some molly if available.
C) I Want to fuck 4 women every day each for 3-4 hours (anal, bareback sex, rough rugged play).
D) This is my ideal Scenario..[/QUOTE]
This is from the gparena site, by a monger named Dante.
Some notes:
- as I say, writing for its own sake is a good thing, worthwhile, art in our little corner of humanity, literature, which is itself redeeming, regardless of critics.
- 4 x 4, 54, and 502 are compared to a Bermuda triangle, with 502 being the only worthwhile. This makes me want to go check out 502. Though I really like the steam room and lawn chairs in 4 x 4, which make it worthwhile as a co-working space for me a few times a month, or more.
- this is a good way to gather real time intel from the locals. The amount of actionable intel on the ISG board is negligible. No one, myself included, posts their best girls because we, gringos, tend to get possessive, fall in love, etc; but the spirit of libertines is hey, go ahead and fuck my girl because she's not my girl, she's just a ho and vice versa. In this we all must resolve to be better Frenchmen.
[URL]http://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=78[/URL]
Friday. A meeting with libertines at the Paladino restaurant, some tulips of draft beer, shots of Salinas, cod fritters and we decided to visit 502. Even before the pandemic. Invariably, there are few customers and girls. Very rarely are there women who can be worth the expense.
The 502 maintains the scenery, but it has fitted a huge pool table in the old smokehouse, a kind of slot machine, which is understandable considering the long period of low customer base. Today, I find the mood in this region that I called the new "Bermuda Triangle" a little depressing: Four for Four, 65 and 502. The only one that still maintains acceptable values 8203;for the client is 502; the other two remain detached from reality, as if the managers lived in a Russian space station.
I drank some more, reaching drunken nirvana. Papo continued with other characters I encountered at the site. Settled in the smokehouse, forced to watch a very boring game of pool, I saw Letícia (I'm not sure of the name), a very beautiful Amazonian cabocla with a sculptural body. I called, sat down beside me, and did the preliminary interview. Transmitting a liberal profile, I approved of the girl and we went up to the alcove.
The great advantage of the 502 is the large cabins with shower. I took my shower while Leticia went out to get her supplies. Old people who abuse alcohol pay for it. My vision was no longer focused, my head was dizzy, Pikachu seemed to be awaiting cremation (never penetration).
Letícia came back, we kissed, we rubbed our bodies, I suckled her beautiful breasts, I put her on all fours and kissed that magazine cover ass as if it were a sacred image. The girl comes to suck me and shows her skill, sucks and masturbates me and I ejaculate my entire family tree. An honest and spontaneous sex, but I realized that the girl has a professional heart, immune to any affective involvement.
I paid the bill, went down to the night Rua the Alfândega and the night kept calling me for another drink. Of course I'm into it. The adventure continues. Wink.
Sexta-feira. Encontro com libertinos no restaurante Paladino, algumas tulipas de chope, doses de Salinas, bolinhos de bacalhau e decidimos visitar a 502. Andão vou mais esperando muito dos grandes e encalhados bordeis do Centro porque já me convenci de que a crise se instalou definitivamente neles, mesmo antes the pandemia. Invariavelmente, há poucos clientes e garotas. Muito raramente há mulheres que possam valer o gasto.
A 502 mantém o cenário, mas encaixou uma enorme mesa de sinuca no antigo fumódromo, uma espécie de caça-andíqueis, o que é compreensível se levarmos them conta o longo período de baixa de clientes. Hoje, considero um pouco deprimente o astral dessa região que denominei como o novo "Triângulo das Bermudas": Quatro por Quatro, 65 e 502. A única que ainda mantém valores aceitáveis para o cliente é a 502; as duas outras prosseguem alheias à realidade, como se os gestores vivessem them uma estação espacial russa.
Bebi um pouco mais, atingindo o nirvana ébrio. Papo prosseguiu com outros personagens que encontrei no local. Acomodado no fumódromo, obrigado a assistir a uma chatíssima partida de sinuca, avistei Letícia (não tenho certeza do nome), uma cabocla amazonense muito bonita e com um corpo escultural. Chamei, sentou-se ao meu lado e fiz a entrevista preliminar. Transmitindo um perfil liberal, aprovei a menina e subimos à alcova.
A grande vantagem the 502 está nas cabines amplas e com chuveiro. Tomei meu banho enquanto Letícia saiu para pegar seus apetrechos. Velhos que abusam no álcool pagam por isso. Minha visão andão tinha mais foco, a cabeça tonteava, Pikachu parecia estar aguardando a cremação (jamais a penetração).
Letícia retornou, nos beijamos, roçamos os corpos, mamei seus seios belíssimos, coloquei-a de quatro e beijei aquela bunda de capa de revista como se fosse uma imagem sagrada. A menina vem me chupar e mostra a sua habilidade, chupa e me masturba e eu ejaculo toda a minha árvore genealógica. Um sexo honesto e espontâneo, mas percebi que a menina tem um coração profissional, imune a qualquer envolvimento afetivo.
Paguei a conta, desci à noturna rua the Alfândega e a noite continuou me chamando para mais uma dose. É claro que eu tô afim. A aventura continua. Piscada.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2579254]
VM is 24/7/365.
The best times for VM are in the afternoon (see Sperto's posts on this). Post up at the northern entrance to VM at a bar, with a beverage, and just watch the girls come to work, and early evening, ditto. You would want to catch the girls BEFORE they get to their casa because once they get there to their casa, there is some tia (aunt), the universal name for the older, ugly jabba the hut (who once was a princess leia) looking semi human who is looking to take 50% of her earnings. You want to get her first, and she and you can do the math. The 80 r for a half hour in VM really means 40 for her, so 80 should be a reasonable rate for an hour with you.
.[/QUOTE]Best time for VM is in the afternoon to find the girls sneaking out of the house to make some cash before mom or the marido gets home, LOL.
Night time is good as well for the girls who can stay out late, LOL.
As far as the girl making 50% at the bar / casa where they work, I'm pretty sure is incorrect.
The house gets the room fee, about 15-20 R, the girl gets the rest.
I've often taken girls from their bar to another that has better rooms, and just pay 15 R to the Tia to make her happy, and at at times Ive given the Tia nada, with no problem.
I enjoy all venues in Rio as well, from high to low.
VM, however, has been great for me over the years.
About 10 years now.
(And I thank Sperto for his posts from the past that got me going there many moons ago!
Vagabundo took the 11 h20 bus from Av Gastao Senges 185 to Av Presidente Wilson 147, then patrolled over to TDM33/2106, where he banged a 19 yo with huge natural tits for a half hour, 80 r, BBBJ, 69, de quatro, good pop to clean out the palette from last night's debacle at blue house.
Vagabundo went back to meet with an English teaching mentor, then went on a non pro date. Since she hates Jorge Amado, and Vagabundo loves Jorge Amado, it likely is not a match, or perhaps opposites attract, but it is nice to have a real relationship with a intelligent woman.
Bravo reporting from 4 x 4 and 65 said that the talent was low, so, Vagabundo riding a city bus from Gavea to Botafogo diverted on the fly to Trattoria, which has gluten free pasta.
Normal Brazil friction aside (even rich world people who have been in Brazil for 50 years complain about the ridiculous bureaucratic mess), it was a fine day, which started with a box / swim workout by the pool, Hemingway style (see [URL]hemingwayhome.com[/URL] for the site of Hemingway's boxing gym which was plastered over by his wench of a wife, fully justifying his going off to Spain to fuck hookers with Gellhorn. Speaking of Jewish chicks, Vagabundo fantasized about Nina Hartley, as an 18 year old, starring in a interracial Story of O with Sean Michaels in the role of the boyfriend, who, sick of his dependent girlfriend, takes her to a BDSM swingers fest, where all his friends can insist on plugging her asshole to their satisfaction before ploughing her ass to gaping, followed by even more debauched French libertine behavior.)
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2579228]I had one of the worst experiences of my mongering life in the Blue house in Anil. A board member recommended this place, on the advice of a local.
The girl said she would do DFK and BBBJ, and then refused. I only got 20 minutes for 100 r because I wanted to limit the risk of just this BS. Maybe I was being a little cheap, and maybe that affected the session, but in any case, this place is a definite no go for any foreign mongers. She employed every time waster in the book.
Moreover, the selection was bad. There was one slim loira, 19, who said she would not DFK, and would not BBBJ. Maybe that was because I wouldn't buy her food, but screw it, I am not the red cross for broke Brazilian hookers. The rest of the stable was not very good. Much better at Paris, Perola, or 4 x 4.
It reinforces my usual routine which is to get numbers, and then make a market for pernoites. This procedure works well for me.
Absolutely do not go to this place.[/QUOTE]This is Brazil; you might get your socks blown off on another day.
Waiting for Ana Foxxx. SBUX, Cinelandia.
Ana Foxxx is a 20 year old black, bem negra (very black) brazilian girl. We're on our 4th "date". The bang on Saturday was superb, so Vagabundo is eagerly awaiting her. We are linking up at the Starbucks, Metro Cinelandia.
This is a good step. As I say, Professionals study logistics, true insiders study personnel, amateurs study sex.
Logistically, since she lives in bem zona norte, training her broke (she said she doesn't have money for bus fare) ass to meet in centro is important, as it can save as much as 250 r for uber rides not even counting her fee (400) or eats (300) on our last date. Cheap Charlie Mungers save dimes so they have billions. Starbucks is important for the rich worlder as we are familiar with them, they have good internet, nice chairs, and good caffeine. For some of us, we are on a caffeine and **** diet (IE, some members are subject to drug tests because they are IT pros or Jackie Brown stewardesses on airlines, etc, or otherwise regulated, even if only by short term need to get shit done, and cannabis does not always help; **** does, it's just good exercise; two hours of a tight young **** a day will serve as physical training). Here in Centro, RJ, there is a SBUX at Cinelandia, and between Carioca and Uruguiana on RB). The other beauty of using SBUC Cinelandia as a checkpoint is that it is the middle of the pussy market which is the glory of RJ's 12 m souls, which is 6% of the 200 m super conservative hyper religious souls in Brazil. From cinelandia, you can walk down RB, at 156 you have a building of prives, at 185 ditto, including Bel Prazer, of course TDM33, and take a right at Buenos Aires, there is 4 x 4, left at alfandega, and there is 502. All the budget casas on the sperto maps, etc, are right there. Keep going North on RB, cross av Pres Vargas, and you are at Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower, take a left on Strasse Marachel, and you head down to 116, from Hotel Atlantico Tower, and take the side street (alcatra Machado), and you are at T31. You, dear reader, the intrepid monger, should do this walk during the day, so you don't get all freaked at night, and it is second nature. At the intersection of RB and Vargas, take any city bus to VM -- just ask if the bus stops at Praca Bandeira. If you don't have a mask go to Alfandega, and buy one for 1.5 r, or a panama hat for 10 r. If you are a pro, you can find the casa bombeiro in that area, and pick up a few ballcaps with the medical universal patch (6 sides), and a Brazilian and Rio flag on either side, and a few velcro Brazil patches. Get a molle backpack with velcro patches, and be ready to swap patches to help not get fucked with. If you want to be really cool, bring a friend / cousin, and dress the same way, the way ready players 2 and 3 did. You are now in the dead center of RJ's pussy market, literally hundreds if not thousand of options for any kind of P4 P, and since geography defines history, it has been this way for tens of thousands and at least hundreds of years from when the first local vikings brought their bounty to the shores in the vicinity of the museum of the future on the harbor coast and bound gang banged her there. It's where the girls from 116 go for picnics, and it is where they ask to be dropped off when they leave Vagabundo's love shack high rise in Barra's coast.
Napoleon once said something like, " I studied my map".
You, the anon sex traveler secret agent, should study the attached map.
You will live south of Central, which is self explanatory enough. Your sex worker will live north of central. Download the images to your phone. You must be able to tell her to meet you at some point on that map. Eg,
See the images of whatsapp chats attached.
From metro cinelandia, it is a block walk to where there is a free bus to my condo, the famed Transamerica. Or one can take the metro, cheapest and fastest. Or one can take the 309 bus, which goes straight to the beach, which is where her volunteer photographer will want to go.
On the metro, one would want to go to metro jardim oceanico.
Monger on, gentlemen.
[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2578401]Vagabundo, I'm Portuguese. Portugal culture is far from libertine, we are much more alike Italians. Women have always ruled the households, behind the patriarch culture in the past, it was matriarch in some way.
Brazilian libertine culture is much more due to the African descent.[/QUOTE]Brazilian libertine culture developed from a confluence of various cultural and historical circumstances. The early Portuguese colonists were predominantly male and much unlike the English in North America they did not bring women to build families and communities. Many Native Brazilian peoples were considered polygamists. If you believe Wikipedia, the Tupi tribesmen offered young Tupi women to the Portuguese colonists to build relationships. Anyway, whether by Native offering or by way of coercion the Portuguese colonists had many indigenous "wives" who brought many Mameluco (Euro-Native American) children into the world. These children became the start of Brazilian miscegenation.
It's obvious that Brazilian-Portuguese libertinism, polygamy and miscegenation continued on with the introduction of African slaves. So basically the early Portuguese shagged anyone and everyone. It seems to have created a modern libertine culture with of course many absolving themselves of their wicked ways with Christianity.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2580004] Professionals study logistics[/QUOTE]I am curious. Why not just stay somewhere closer to Centro where you can save time and transportation cost?
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2580004] Cheap Charlie Mungers save dimes [/QUOTE]There is another perspective and it is opposite to this. Some people see time as money so they spend more to save time and use the time saved to make more money than the money spent and will come out ahead. They are paying for their own time, not the girl's time.
This is a very important insight.
Obrigado.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2580014]Brazilian libertine culture developed from a confluence of various cultural and historical circumstances. The early Portuguese colonists were predominantly male and much unlike the English in North America they did not bring women to build families and communities. Many Native Brazilian peoples were considered polygamists. If you believe Wikipedia, the Tupi tribesmen offered young Tupi women to the Portuguese colonists to build relationships. Anyway, whether by Native offering or by way of coercion the Portuguese colonists had many indigenous "wives" who brought many Mameluco (Euro-Native American) children into the world. These children became the start of Brazilian miscegenation.
It's obvious that Brazilian-Portuguese libertinism, polygamy and miscegenation continued on with the introduction of African slaves. So basically the early Portuguese shagged anyone and everyone. It seems to have created a modern libertine culture with of course many absolving themselves of their wicked ways with Christianity.[/QUOTE]
Since mobile prós can mint coin anywhere there is wi-fi sbux and 4 x 4 até optimal.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2580026]I am curious. Why not just stay somewhere closer to Centro where you can save time and transportation cost?
There is another perspective and it is opposite to this. Some people see time as money so they spend more to save time and use the time saved to make more money than the money spent and will come out ahead. They are paying for their own time, not the girl's time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2580026]I am curious. Why not just stay somewhere closer to Centro where you can save time and transportation cost?
There is another perspective and it is opposite to this. Some people see time as money so they spend more to save time and use the time saved to make more money than the money spent and will come out ahead. They are paying for their own time, not the girl's time.[/QUOTE]Noted by myself and others. If you have limited time in Brazil you really need to plan ahead and think about the best way to use the limited time. Make your money at home. Take advantage of the 5+:1 exchange rate and don't worry so much about saving a few dollars. For many years I had a very tight international travel schedule which did not afford me the luxury of putting something off until tomorrow. That is you in Brazil. Make the best use of your time. Stay closest to the action. Focus on convenience not saving money on lodging. Hotels have people who speak English and Portuguese who can help you. AirBnB does not. Advice from first timers here is invaluable to you. Do plan one day where you do not give a crap if things don't work out but you can't afford more than one of those.
Great fuck with Ana.
Shot Milk like Peter North ALL over her leg.
Two or three jets.
Held out from banging yesterday KKK.
Going to Beach to shoot surf videos.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2580004]Waiting for Ana Foxxx. SBUX, Cinelandia.
Ana Foxxx is a 20 year old black, bem negra (very black) brazilian girl. We're on our 4th "date". The bang on Saturday was superb, so Vagabundo is eagerly awaiting her. We are linking up at the Starbucks
Logistically, since she lives in bem zona norte, training her broke (she said she doesn't have money for bus fare) ass to meet in centro is important, as it can save as much as 250 r for uber rides not even counting her fee (400) or eats (300) on our last date. [/QUOTE]Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? I understand that for further meetings, you could save the Uber and possible the food if you don't feed her but from the looks of it. If she is too broke for bus fare, she will probably need to be fed to keep her energy up.
I admire your logistics. I could never get to that point. I am all about convenience and ease.
BBFS all I could cum 24 h v 1 h.
4 pops at my leisure.
At the Beach and my house.
Own toilet advantage.
But point taken.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2580067]Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? I understand that for further meetings, you could save the Uber and possible the food if you don't feed her but from the looks of it. If she is too broke for bus fare, she will probably need to be fed to keep her energy up.
I admire your logistics. I could never get to that point. I am all about convenience and ease.[/QUOTE]
Sex on Beach v sex in a building. Priceless.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2580067]Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? I understand that for further meetings, you could save the Uber and possible the food if you don't feed her but from the looks of it. If she is too broke for bus fare, she will probably need to be fed to keep her energy up.
I admire your logistics. I could never get to that point. I am all about convenience and ease.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2580067]Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? I understand that for further meetings, you could save the Uber and possible the food if you don't feed her but from the looks of it. If she is too broke for bus fare, she will probably need to be fed to keep her energy up.
I admire your logistics. I could never get to that point. I am all about convenience and ease.[/QUOTE]As the man said, time [B]is[/B] money!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2580004]Waiting for Ana Foxxx. SBUX, Cinelandia.
Ana Foxxx is a 20 year old black, bem negra (very black) brazilian girl. We're on our 4th "date". The bang on Saturday was superb, so Vagabundo is eagerly awaiting her. We are linking up at the Starbucks, Metro Cinelandia.
This is a good step. As I say, Professionals study logistics, true insiders study personnel, amateurs study sex.
Logistically, since she lives in bem zona norte, training her broke (she said she doesn't have money for bus fare) ass to meet in centro is important, as it can save as much as 250 r for uber rides not even counting her fee (400) or eats (300) on our last date. Cheap Charlie Mungers save dimes so they have billions. Starbucks is important for the rich worlder as we are familiar with them, they have good internet, nice chairs, and good caffeine. For some of us, we are on a caffeine and **** diet (IE, some members are subject to drug tests because they are IT pros or Jackie Brown stewardesses on airlines, etc, or otherwise regulated, even if only by short term need to get shit done, and cannabis does not always help; **** does, it's just good exercise; two hours of a tight young **** a day will serve as physical training). Here in Centro, RJ, there is a SBUX at Cinelandia, and between Carioca and Uruguiana on RB). The other beauty of using SBUC Cinelandia as a checkpoint is that it is the middle of the pussy market which is the glory of RJ's 12 m souls, which is 6% of the 200 m super conservative hyper religious souls in Brazil. From cinelandia, you can walk down RB, at 156 you have a building of prives, at 185 ditto, including Bel Prazer, of course TDM33, and take a right at Buenos Aires, there is 4 x 4, left at alfandega, and there is 502. All the budget casas on the sperto maps, etc, are right there. Keep going North on RB, cross av Pres Vargas, and you are at Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower, take a left on Strasse Marachel, and you head down to 116, from Hotel Atlantico Tower, and take the side street (alcatra Machado), and you are at T31. You, dear reader, the intrepid monger, should do this walk during the day, so you don't get all freaked at night, and it is second nature. At the intersection of RB and Vargas, take any city bus to VM -- just ask if the bus stops at Praca Bandeira. If you don't have a mask go to Alfandega, and buy one for 1.5 r, or a panama hat for 10 r. If you are a pro, you can find the casa bombeiro in that area, and pick up a few ballcaps with the medical universal patch (6 sides), and a Brazilian and Rio flag on either side, and a few velcro Brazil patches. Get a molle backpack with velcro patches, and be ready to swap patches to help not get fucked with. If you want to be really cool, bring a friend / cousin, and dress the same way, the way ready players 2 and 3 did. You are now in the dead center of RJ's pussy market, literally hundreds if not thousand of options for any kind of P4 P, and since geography defines history, it has been this way for tens of thousands and at least hundreds of years from when the first local vikings brought their bounty to the shores in the vicinity of the museum of the future on the harbor coast and bound gang banged her there. It's where the girls from 116 go for picnics, and it is where they ask to be dropped off when they leave Vagabundo's love shack high rise in Barra's coast.
Napoleon once said something like, " I studied my map".
You, the anon sex traveler secret agent, should study the attached map.
You will live south of Central, which is self explanatory enough. Your sex worker will live north of central. Download the images to your phone. You must be able to tell her to meet you at some point on that map. Eg,
See the images of whatsapp chats attached.
From metro cinelandia, it is a block walk to where there is a free bus to my condo, the famed Transamerica. Or one can take the metro, cheapest and fastest. Or one can take the 309 bus, which goes straight to the beach, which is where her volunteer photographer will want to go.
On the metro, one would want to go to metro jardim oceanico.
Monger on, gentlemen.[/QUOTE]I had no idea all of that is THAT close to the Cinelândia Starbucks. I've been there a couple of times with different non-pro / semi-pro each time. I will certainly have to take the daytime stroll you just outlined in this post. Thanks again for the solid gold you post.
Hello,
I remember several bars that were open near praca do Lido at Copa. Bars with no entry fee, expensive beers (6 dollars) and many girls dancing on funk and even stripping. I find it strange that there are (almost) no reviews of them here, since they exist because of / from tourist at Copa. Only Mabs (more resto without the dancing) and Dolce Vita are sometimes mentioned. Who knows the club Casablanca? I had great fun there during my last and only visit in 2015. If you wanted to take a girl home you had to pay the club also money though (I think 60 dollars). I guess it was the same as Balcony (closed permanently). Any news about these places?
I will only be in Rio for 1 evening. Monday evening. So I guess I will book a friendly hotel near these clubs around praca do lido. Someone said Hotel Astoria is girl friendly (few pages back) Can anyone confirm. Or give me a hotel in that area?. Since indeed Mosaico is only good from midnight and I have to leave at 8 in the morning it will (unfortunately) not for me. (too far from copa). Thanks for the info. I will send a 5 pages report on my 1 evening-.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2580067]Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? [/QUOTE]My understanding is it is apple and orange because they are not for the same amount of time and sex. The cost of food will likely be the same if the time for both are the same.
[QUOTE=MichaelSchoefs;2580099]Hello,
I remember several bars that were open near praca do Lido at Copa. Bars with no entry fee, expensive beers (6 dollars) and many girls dancing on funk and even stripping. I find it strange that there are (almost) no reviews of them here, since they exist because of / from tourist at Copa. Only Mabs (more resto without the dancing) and Dolce Vita are sometimes mentioned. Who knows the club Casablanca? I had great fun there during my last and only visit in 2015. If you wanted to take a girl home you had to pay the club also money though (I think 60 dollars). I guess it was the same as Balcony (closed permanently). Any news about these places?
I will only be in Rio for 1 evening. Monday evening. So I guess I will book a friendly hotel near these clubs around praca do lido. Someone said Hotel Astoria is girl friendly (few pages back) Can anyone confirm. Or give me a hotel in that area?. Since indeed Mosaico is only good from midnight and I have to leave at 8 in the morning it will (unfortunately) not for me. (too far from copa). Thanks for the info. I will send a 5 pages report on my 1 evening-.[/QUOTE]I was in Rio this past May and dolce vita was closed Monday and Tuesday. I don't know about the other clubs you mention. You have to imagine Monday is generally a slow day. I'd pick another strategy like online escorts.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2580014]Brazilian libertine culture developed from a confluence of various cultural and historical circumstances. The early Portuguese colonists were predominantly male and much unlike the English in North America they did not bring women to build families and communities. Many Native Brazilian peoples were considered polygamists. If you believe Wikipedia, the Tupi tribesmen offered young Tupi women to the Portuguese colonists to build relationships. Anyway, whether by Native offering or by way of coercion the Portuguese colonists had many indigenous "wives" who brought many Mameluco (Euro-Native American) children into the world. These children became the start of Brazilian miscegenation.
It's obvious that Brazilian-Portuguese libertinism, polygamy and miscegenation continued on with the introduction of African slaves. So basically the early Portuguese shagged anyone and everyone. It seems to have created a modern libertine culture with of course many absolving themselves of their wicked ways with Christianity.[/QUOTE]You were forgetting the African slaves.
Hence, Botafogo is the best hood.
But barra is best if you live here.
Or keep a hotel room at hotel sao Francisco / hotel Atlántico tower.
For that matter, I make each into a VFW and new Swiss Embassy haha.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2580047]Noted by myself and others. If you have limited time in Brazil you really need to plan ahead and think about the best way to use the limited time. Make your money at home. Take advantage of the 5+:1 exchange rate and don't worry so much about saving a few dollars. For many years I had a very tight international travel schedule which did not afford me the luxury of putting something off until tomorrow. That is you in Brazil. Make the best use of your time. Stay closest to the action. Focus on convenience not saving money on lodging. Hotels have people who speak English and Portuguese who can help you. AirBnB does not. Advice from first timers here is invaluable to you. Do plan one day where you do not give a crap if things don't work out but you can't afford more than one of those.[/QUOTE]
We made it to minute 39 of Rocco's latest with the negra from Kenya Zawaadi Ana Foxxxx, paying 400 for pernoite, plus eats, smokes.
My doc came over for the cannabis prescription since he is heading to POA for a week, I may go too.
Great afternoon at the beach, swam, ate -- the sardines are recommended, there's a aipim, which is good. A whole fried fish.
We fucked for an hour in the afternoon before the beach.
2 hours of sex a day is what my doctor says I should get in exercise.
Will be getting in my daily two hours of sexo in the morning too, now that I am the GanjaCoffee CannabisCaffeine King.
Some wanker says I shouldn't promote Botafogo. Just for that, Sperto maps is moving into Botafogo to identify all the MILF cocksucker working girls.
Vagabundo is now Botafogo.
Re: What am I going to do with you?
I am going to change my user name to botafogo.
And get to 12,000 posts.
Just to inundate your GF with gringo mongers who come for the suruba com pretos at the Panda Motel.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2580080]BBFS all I could cum 24 h v 1 h.
4 pops at my leisure.
At the Beach and my house.
Own toilet advantage.
But point taken.[/QUOTE]Pretty reasonable for 24 hrs. These are the type of arrangements I try to set up in SP so that it is "on demand" whenever the mood strikes. I don't feel like going on the hunt whenever the mood strikes. I like the hunt a lot but I love savoring the kill for a few days.
The beach in a word.
The beach is why I live in barra.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2580026]I am curious. Why not just stay somewhere closer to Centro where you can save time and transportation cost?
There is another perspective and it is opposite to this. Some people see time as money so they spend more to save time and use the time saved to make more money than the money spent and will come out ahead. They are paying for their own time, not the girl's time.[/QUOTE]
Senhor Nounce,
Precisely good sir. I am winding down from 2 hours of sex with Ana Zawaaadi Foxxx, who has Zawaadi's body as a 20 year old. And two hours of smoking weed, having dinner, eating, and taking pictures at the beach, watching Dom, and generally being happy with my woman, who is mistaken for African by the African beach vendors who come up and ask if she is from Afrika, to which I say, thanks for the compliment, can I get your number for when I need a asset to take care of the lost tribe of Israel in Africa for further benefit to Lugano, Switzerland, and the Union Bank of Switzerland, LTDA, Brazil.
Sometimes a man like this cracker would write words on a page to get negras to suck his cock, which I can totally relate to. Those who seek precision here are not smoking enough Hash.
You get a shiver in the dark.
It's a raining in the park but meantime-.
South of the river you stop and you hold everything.
A band is blowing Dixie, double four time.
You feel alright when you hear the music ring.
Well now you step inside but you don't see too many faces.
Coming in out of the rain they hear the jazz go down.
Competition in other places.
Uh but the horns they blowin' that sound.
Way on down south.
Way on down south.
London town.
You check out guitar George, he knows-all the chords.
Mind, it's strictly rhythm he doesn't want to make it cry or sing.
They said an old guitar is all, he can afford.
When he gets up under the lights to play his thing.
And Harry doesn't mind, if he doesn't, make the scene.
He's got a daytime job, he's doing alright.
He can play the Honky Tonk like anything.
Savin' it up, for Friday night.
With the Sultans.
We're the Sultans of Swing.
Then a crowd a boys they're a foolin' around in the corner.
Drunk and dressed in their best brown baggies and their platform soles.
They don't give a damn about any trumpet playin' band.
It ain't what they call Rock and Roll.
And the Sultans.
Yeah, the Sultans, they play Creole.
Creole.
And then the man he steps right up to the microphone.
And says at last just as the time bell rings.
"Goodnight, now it's time to go home".
Then he makes it fast with one more thing.
"We are the Sultans.
We are the Sultans of Swing".
[QUOTE=Nounce;2580119]My understanding is it is apple and orange because they are not for the same amount of time and sex. The cost of food will likely be the same if the time for both are the same.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MichaelSchoefs;2580099]Hello,
I remember several bars that were open near praca do Lido at Copa. Bars with no entry fee, expensive beers (6 dollars) and many girls dancing on funk and even stripping. I find it strange that there are (almost) no reviews of them here, since they exist because of / from tourist at Copa. Only Mabs (more resto without the dancing) and Dolce Vita are sometimes mentioned. Who knows the club Casablanca? I had great fun there during my last and only visit in 2015. If you wanted to take a girl home you had to pay the club also money though (I think 60 dollars). I guess it was the same as Balcony (closed permanently). Any news about these places?
I will only be in Rio for 1 evening. Monday evening. So I guess I will book a friendly hotel near these clubs around praca do lido. Someone said Hotel Astoria is girl friendly (few pages back) Can anyone confirm. Or give me a hotel in that area?. Since indeed Mosaico is only good from midnight and I have to leave at 8 in the morning it will (unfortunately) not for me. (too far from copa). Thanks for the info. I will send a 5 pages report on my 1 evening-.[/QUOTE]But why even go to Copa? Mabs, Dolce Vita and other Copa clubs are always hit and miss. What if you don't find anyone to your liking? And why even bother with Zona Sul for one night? Just stay in Centro and explore the monger circuit (4 x4, 502, Manhattan, for more, read the Vagabundo's short Centro guide below). Honestly, for one night in Rio I would probably have a nice dinner, then Uber to 4 x4 for a few drinks, sauna and a couple of girls. But then I'm lazy, LOL.
The truth lands with a thud and needs no introduction.
[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2580147]You were forgetting the African slaves.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2580225]But why even go to Copa? Mabs, Dolce Vita and other Copa clubs are always hit and miss. What if you don't find anyone to your liking? And why even bother with Zona Sul for one night? Just stay in Centro and explore the monger circuit (4 x4, 502, Manhattan, for more, read the Vagabundo's short Centro guide below). Honestly, for one night in Rio I would probably have a nice dinner, then Uber to 4 x4 for a few drinks, sauna and a couple of girls. But then I'm lazy, LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree. I'm not sure there is really time for dinner, but I think your point is with one night hit termas 4 x 4 and some of the Centro termas scene. Mabs and Dolce Vita aren't really a great idea if you only have one night and you want to make it count.
Walk around in the afternoon, have a late lunch (Confeitaria Colombo perhaps) and meander over to the termas.
Anybody on the ground know what the general consensus is with the delta variant. Are the news outlets creating any panic for another lockdown. I was looking forward to visiting in September but news around the world is that delta variant is spreading widely in South America. Peru is starting another lockdown apparently. Hope nothing changes.
[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2580147]You were forgetting the African slaves.[/QUOTE]Except I specifically mention African slaves in my second paragraph on the Brazilian-Portuguese libertine ways.
I'm sure many here also know the original Paulistas were half Portuguese, half Native. The original Paulista men were some bad dudes who roamed the interior hunting for Native slaves and likely fucked a bunch too.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2580311]The truth lands with a thud and needs no introduction.[/QUOTE]Do you read or do you just write?
[QUOTE=HoyaDay;2580368]Anybody on the ground know what the general consensus is with the delta variant. Are the news outlets creating any panic for another lockdown. I was looking forward to visiting in September but news around the world is that delta variant is spreading widely in South America. Peru is starting another lockdown apparently. Hope nothing changes.[/QUOTE]Only few cases in Rio, so far, but as we know it can spread very fast. [URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2021/07/prefeitura-do-rio-confirma-circulacao-da-variante-delta-e-monitora-40-pessoas.shtml[/URL].
Dear senhor Wyattearp.
MEU culpa senhor.
I skim, fuck, smoke, write, sometimes I cum inside.
I am a flawed multitasker pq nao sou chato.
Vagabundo motel Malaga overnight seems like a perfect spot only 10 minutes walk from mosaic club. Thank you my virtual legendary friend.
I'll be I Rio from 5th till 12th but can monger from 10th till 12th. Other days I want to enjoy the city go hang gliding, sky diving and do all the touristy stuff. Once my tank is completely drained on the 12th I'll head over to ilha grande for 2 days to relax and recharge then will monger hardcore for 3 days in São Paulo.
I'll DM you if you want to hang out together on 10th and 11th, you can feel totally comfortable with me mongering haha, fuck ID be down for girl swaps.
I've actually been talking to a 19 year old in SA and she wants to stay overnight from 11 pm till 7 am. She's beautiful to say the least and only asked for 600 which I thought was and absolutely steal LOL.
You may have to upgrade your membership to DM, but sure. It is worth it.
My standards are low. Unless you're a member of the Spanish inquisition looking to castrate unfaithful men for fornication, I will be a good corporal wingman for any visiting general. Haha.
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2580609]I'll DM you if you want to hang out together on 10th and 11th, you can feel totally comfortable with me mongering haha, fuck ID be down for girl swaps.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2580609]
I'll be I Rio from 5th till 12th but can monger from 10th till 12th. Other days I want to enjoy the city go hang gliding, sky diving and do all the touristy stuff. Once my tank is completely drained on the 12th I'll head over to ilha grande for 2 days to relax and recharge then will monger hardcore for 3 days in So Paulo.[/QUOTE]A few thoughts.
1. It's winter in Rio. The days are short, it probably gets dark around 6 pm or so, which means the only "touristy stuff" you'll get to do after that is drinking or watching TV. Why not monger instead?
2. Going to Ilha Grande for 2 days is nothing short of masochism, IMHO. It's at least 4. 5-5 hour transfer one way (don't believe BS-ers who promise to get you there in 2 hours). You'll be rushed around and won't see anything.
Conclusion:
You're making the same mistakes I've often made in my travels trying to squeeze as many experiences as possible in a very limited time-frame. You would enjoy it much better if you spent your 10-day vacation in Rio and IG rather than squeezing in Sampa, which you should approach as a separate project (I did 3 days in SP once, and it wasn't nearly enough).
Senhor Xpartan is correct on both counts.
I once went to christo because some ******* brokedick could not get it up travel buddy wanted to get a picture next to christ. I wished I had fucked the ass of the hottest morena I met in mosaico instead for another 2 hours in Malaga.
For that amount of time, come to barra posto 1, and take a girl jetski at praia dos amadors. It is a 30 minute cab ride. Take pictures of her ass in the sun, preferably with a butt plug, and post her number at the bottom of her picture so we can decide whether to plough her ass too.
Keeping it classy, Rio.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2581011]A few thoughts.
1. It's winter in Rio. The days are short, it probably gets dark around 6 pm or so, which means the only "touristy stuff" you'll get to do after that is drinking or watching TV. Why not monger instead?
2. Going to Ilha Grande for 2 days is nothing short of masochism, IMHO. It's at least 4. 5-5 hour transfer one way (don't believe BS-ers who promise to get you there in 2 hours). You'll be rushed around and won't see anything.
Conclusion:
You're making the same mistakes I've often made in my travels trying to squeeze as many experiences as possible in a very limited time-frame. You would enjoy it much better if you spent your 10-day vacation in Rio and IG rather than squeezing in Sampa, which you should approach as a separate project (I did 3 days in SP once, and it wasn't nearly enough).[/QUOTE]
Being in my 50's now, so I finally decided to try some ED pills to help with my performance issues (No gym for 1. 5 years and 45 pounds of covid weight) has really fucked up my Stroke! I am finally back in the gym and trying to eat healthy, but after 1 month of fucking these young garotas, I am slowly losing my sex drive (And wearing condoms doesn't fucking help either).
I bought the generic versions of Viagra and Cialis, I really didn't notice a major difference between the two. Being relatively new to ED pills (I took a whole viagra pill when I was like 31 and it was a nightmare. After I took the pill I had a massive headache and a brick for a dick! This time, I cut the pill into 4 pieces and swallowed 1/4th. For me, 1/4th of a pill works great. I am at full mast but its not Whiskey dick where I fuck for hours and can never bust a nut.
One thing I did notice (And it happened at the exact wrong fucking time) was that I could not have a full stomach either before or after I took the pill. I had a super hot girl with a crazy ass in my bed and couldn't perform last night. (I told her it was because I was drunk. LOL) Taking the pill with a full stomach just neutralized the effect.
Flip side: I don't know if this is supposed to happen but. I notice when I take the pill on an empty stomach, it works great, but in addition, it works as an appetite suppressor! I literally didn't eat for almost 2 days straight because I had absolutely no desire to consume anything. I only ate because I got nervous and didn't want a Lamar Odom episode, so I had a small sandwich and a juice.
Hopefully, once I get back into shape and lose the weight, I won't have to use the pills at all. But its nice to know that if I need a little "Help" I know what to take and how to take it in order to have the desired effect. Anyone know if you need a prescription from a doctor to bring the pills back to America?
I've never had trouble. But then I travel on a Swiss diplomatic passport.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2581051]Being in my 50's now, so I finally decided to try some ED pills to help with my performance issues (No gym for 1. 5 years and 45 pounds of covid weight) has really fucked up my Stroke! I am finally back in the gym and trying to eat healthy, but after 1 month of fucking these young garotas, I am slowly losing my sex drive (And wearing condoms doesn't fucking help either).
I bought the generic versions of Viagra and Cialis, I really didn't notice a major difference between the two. Being relatively new to ED pills (I took a whole viagra pill when I was like 31 and it was a nightmare. After I took the pill I had a massive headache and a brick for a dick! This time, I cut the pill into 4 pieces and swallowed 1/4th. For me, 1/4th of a pill works great. I am at full mast but its not Whiskey dick where I fuck for hours and can never bust a nut.
One thing I did notice (And it happened at the exact wrong fucking time) was that I could not have a full stomach either before or after I took the pill. I had a super hot girl with a crazy ass in my bed and couldn't perform last night. (I told her it was because I was drunk. LOL) Taking the pill with a full stomach just neutralized the effect.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2581011]Going to Ilha Grande for 2 days is nothing short of masochism, IMHO. It's at least 4. 5-5 hour transfer one way (don't believe BS-ers who promise to get you there in 2 hours).[/QUOTE]From the picture you can see that Uber got me from Copacabana to the port in Conceicao in 2 hours and 23 minutes. Then from there the boat is 30 minutes at most and they leave every hour on the hour. Relaxing there during the winter I am not sure of though.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2581051]Being in my 50's now, so I finally decided to try some ED pills to help with my performance issues (No gym for 1. 5 years and 45 pounds of covid weight) has really fucked up my Stroke! I am finally back in the gym and trying to eat healthy, but after 1 month of fucking these young garotas, I am slowly losing my sex drive (And wearing condoms doesn't fucking help either).
I bought the generic versions of Viagra and Cialis, I really didn't notice a major difference between the two. Being relatively new to ED pills (I took a whole viagra pill when I was like 31 and it was a nightmare. After I took the pill I had a massive headache and a brick for a dick! This time, I cut the pill into 4 pieces and swallowed 1/4th. For me, 1/4th of a pill works great. I am at full mast but its not Whiskey dick where I fuck for hours and can never bust a nut.
One thing I did notice (And it happened at the exact wrong fucking time) was that I could not have a full stomach either before or after I took the pill. I had a super hot girl with a crazy ass in my bed and couldn't perform last night. (I told her it was because I was drunk. LOL) Taking the pill with a full stomach just neutralized the effect.
Flip side: I don't know if this is supposed to happen but. I notice when I take the pill on an empty stomach, it works great, but in addition, it works as an appetite suppressor! I literally didn't eat for almost 2 days straight because I had absolutely no desire to consume anything. I only ate because I got nervous and didn't want a Lamar Odom episode, so I had a small sandwich and a juice.
Hopefully, once I get back into shape and lose the weight, I won't have to use the pills at all. But its nice to know that if I need a little "Help" I know what to take and how to take it in order to have the desired effect. Anyone know if you need a prescription from a doctor to bring the pills back to America?[/QUOTE]Been doing that with 50 MG generic viagra for the last couple of years, works great. A few weeks ago, I went to the drug store and they ran out of the generic viagra, so they offered me a cialus. I had never taken one before in my life. However, I had to get something because time limitations. So I went for it. Performance was fine during the next couple of days. However, I only had a beer or two with dinner after my play sessions, and I would get a headache. I never ever get headaches, not even with the generic viagra. So for me, best to stick with what works. Just because my body reacted in this manner, it does not apply to everyone else. So I suggest trial and error method to see what works best. 4 pieces formula works best for me.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2581051]..........Being relatively new to ED pills (I took a whole viagra pill when I was like 31 and it was a nightmare. After I took the pill I had a massive headache and a brick for a dick! This time, I cut the pill into 4 pieces and swallowed 1/4th. For me, 1/4th of a pill works great. I am at full mast but its not Whiskey dick where I fuck for hours and can never bust a nut.
One thing I did notice (And it happened at the exact wrong fucking time) was that I could not have a full stomach either before or after I took the pill. I had a super hot girl with a crazy ass in my bed and couldn't perform last night. (I told her it was because I was drunk. LOL) Taking the pill with a full stomach just neutralized the effect.
Flip side: I don't know if this is supposed to happen but. I notice when I take the pill on an empty stomach, it works great, but in addition, it works as an appetite suppressor! I literally didn't eat for almost 2 days straight because I had absolutely no desire to consume anything. I only ate because I got nervous and didn't want a Lamar Odom episode, so I had a small sandwich and a juice.
Hopefully, once I get back into shape and lose the weight, I won't have to use the pills at all. But its nice to know that if I need a little "Help" I know what to take and how to take it in order to have the desired effect. Anyone know if you need a prescription from a doctor to bring the pills back to America?[/QUOTE]I think it's fairly common to find Viagra and Levitra work better on an empty stomach. Headaches can occur if the dose is too high. I believe 25 and 50 MG pills aren't much cheaper than 100 MG pills. So men have been buying those little pill slicers at the pharmacy for years.
I find my appetite is suppressed for several hours, but never for days. When traveling, I always try to eat two meals. Dinner is usually much before I go into action. Interestingly, there seems to be some guy on the RJ or SP thread advocating fasting for better sex. I never heard that before, but certainly take Vitamin V and L on an empty stomach. Also, I cannot drink too much with ED meds. I kind of chill at the bars and termas at night with one or two drinks.
By the way, there is a thread called Viagra under Special Interests which leads to all ED meds discussions. This topic is explored in greater detail there.
[QUOTE=Mangera;2581111]Been doing that with 50 MG generic viagra for the last couple of years, works great. A few weeks ago, I went to the drug store and they ran out of the generic viagra, so they offered me a cialus.[/QUOTE]What drugstore? You don't need a medical prescription?
[QUOTE=Phate;2581151]What drugstore? You don't need a medical prescription?[/QUOTE]No you don't. I personally prefer using Rappi for this kind of stuff. That way I don't have to worry about awkwardly discussing with a pharmacist in a store.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2581159]No you don't. I personally prefer using Rappi for this kind of stuff. That way I don't have to worry about awkwardly discussing with a pharmacist in a store.[/QUOTE]For them it is as awkward as breathing. They discuss it everyday.
What would be the best option to buy a prepaid SIM card with internet for 10 days? I understand that there will be at Rio Airport but I would prefer to know your opinions, thanks as always!
Hey guys.
Just checking in to do some proper pre-check of things before I bite the bullet and go to Brazil again in September!
Is a vaccine required to enter or leave the country? I know you need a negative PCR test before and after.
I hear the days are shorter in September as the sun goes down at 6 pm or so. I'll be bring a jacket since I hear it can get a bit cold. I'll be doing lots of reports when I touch down and hit up every place I can and bring back reports! Also I know there are some posters in the area and wouldn't mind patrolling with some veterans!
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2581273]Hey guys.
Just checking in to do some proper pre-check of things before I bite the bullet and go to Brazil again in September!
Is a vaccine required to enter or leave the country? I know you need a negative PCR test before and after.
I hear the days are shorter in September as the sun goes down at 6 pm or so. I'll be bring a jacket since I hear it can get a bit cold. I'll be doing lots of reports when I touch down and hit up every place I can and bring back reports! Also I know there are some posters in the area and wouldn't mind patrolling with some veterans![/QUOTE]This is a good place for travel info [URL]https://www.traveldoc.aero/[/URL].
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2581115]I think it's fairly common to find Viagra and Levitra work better on an empty stomach. Headaches can occur if the dose is too high. I believe 25 and 50 MG pills aren't much cheaper than 100 MG pills. So men have been buying those little pill slicers at the pharmacy for years.
I find my appetite is suppressed for several hours, but never for days. When traveling, I always try to eat two meals. Dinner is usually much before I go into action. Interestingly, there seems to be some guy on the RJ or SP thread advocating fasting for better sex. I never heard that before, but certainly take Vitamin V and L on an empty stomach. Also, I cannot drink too much with ED meds. I kind of chill at the bars and termas at night with one or two drinks.
By the way, there is a thread called Viagra under Special Interests which leads to all ED meds discussions. This topic is explored in greater detail there.[/QUOTE]Revatio is a great alternative. Same medicine as Viagra but usually prescribed for heart in 20 MG tablets. They are little white pills that look like coffee sweeter we used to use years ago. Great thing is at 20 MG you can customize your dose. 50 MG is common. So I do 40 or 60 depending. Or 40 with a 20 booster later. Works great.
I got mine from Lemonaid in the US. Online doctor consult and they send them out. Super easy. Recommend.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2581289]This is a good place for travel info [URL]https://www.traveldoc.aero/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks! This is a very good and comprehensive site, loads of info!
Brigado!
I went to Praia marambaia, one beach after grumari.
It is beautiful.
I am going to ihla grande with Lara Selena (see photo thread) on quarta feira.
Waiting for her to come sit on my face now. And may be to scare up a dupla or two. I've been banging her for 6 years.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2581085]From the picture you can see that Uber got me from Copacabana to the port in Conceicao in 2 hours and 23 minutes. Then from there the boat is 30 minutes at most and they leave every hour on the hour. Relaxing there during the winter I am not sure of though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2581085]From the picture you can see that Uber got me from Copacabana to the port in Conceicao in 2 hours and 23 minutes. Then from there the boat is 30 minutes at most and they leave every hour on the hour. Relaxing there during the winter I am not sure of though.[/QUOTE]In a private car, yeah sure. You can make it in 3 hours IF there is no traffic and you get to the port right by the departure time and don't miss the boat (because if you do, you'll wait for another hour as you yourself mentioned). Best case scenario, you'll get there under 3 hours. Not the cheapest option, though. IIRC, a ride and a boat cost us about $90 back in 2020. On the way back to Rio, though, the chance is you will get into traffic. Too much trouble for a 2-day outing, IMHO.
As to winter weather, my last year trip to IG in Feb coincided with daily terrestrial downpours, so you never know.
Has anyone from the UK managed to travel to Brazil recently? Currently it looks like we are prohibited from traveling by Brazil but I've heard about people traveling via Portugal and not having any issues.
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2581416]Has anyone from the UK managed to travel to Brazil recently? Currently it looks like we are prohibited from traveling by Brazil but I've heard about people traveling via Portugal and not having any issues.[/QUOTE]I was in UK for 4 months and then within 14 days went to Brazil.
Just don't declare in app that you need to fill up online before getting boarding pass that you have been in UK within 14 days.
It is all bollocks anyway these Covid rules made for sheep and wana be China people.
[QUOTE=Phate;2581151]What drugstore? You don't need a medical prescription?[/QUOTE]Any drug store, including Pacheco.
I linked up with Palcon and Dandyman51 at Trattoria, which is excellent as always.
I suggested we go to VM to get oriented. This was 18 h. We took an uber, though I was willing to take the 457 bus from Copa.
We walked through VM from SouthEast to NorthWest, and found nothing of immediate interest.
My plan was to orient the patrol, mark targets, and circle back for further patrols. We walked past Mosaico. We walked to Hotel Canario. We walked northwest out of VM Triangle and patrolled from street walkers, and found some, but none good enough.
We came back to VM at 20 h, and settled in at Casa 52, the best casa, with a good overwatch of the street. One wingman found a loira (blond) of good enough quality -- a 7 or so -- and sessioned with her. I went in and found a usual suspect, and banged her. The other wingman also found a loira of good enough quality at 52, and sessioned. We all having busted a nut, we drank Stella for a few minutes more before taking an uber back to copa / barra to sleep well.
I've read 100 pages on the SP and almost the same on the RJ reports but haven't found my answers yet, hoping someone can chime in on your monger operating procedures when visiting a terapias or contacting a Garota found online through WhatsApp.
1) I noticed many terapias and Clinicas list different services on their websites, but none say full service. If I don't care about a massage, how do you approach the conversation about wanting full service only? I speak no Portuguese so I'm trying to work this out in my mind for when I walk in I feel less stupid if they don't offer such services LOL. Example:
[URL]http://copaterapias.com.br/services/[/URL]
I don't see full service. All other options seem pricey BTW, and no full service?
2) What is your normal message structure when reaching out to a garota found online or Twitter? If you don't speak Portuguese, do you message them in English or Portuguese but using Google translate? Do you let them know you speak little to no Portuguese? I'm curious about this, here in the States I normally send one message, polite but straight to the point asking availability, duration, incall or outcall, and maybe cost if not known or posted. 95% of the time I get a fast response. Curious what others send through WhatsApp.
Cafe Marambaia is worth the trip. The food is awesome, especially paella -- best of my life.
View of Ihla Grande and beach is awesome.
There are several pousadas, and a beach club. Even if you do not have time for a local trip to Ihla Grande or Buzios, a trip to Marambaia with a girl is a good move. Good houses can be rented for 1300 r per month. It is far away, and a dedicated uber driver will be necessary. For the Senhor Spartan's there is a bus. Truly, this is off the grid. You would have to be a real vagabundo to make it here.
This town is undiscovered, and worth a trip.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2581310]I went to Praia marambaia, one beach after grumari.
It is beautiful.
I am going to ihla grande with Lara Selena (see photo thread) on quarta feira.
Waiting for her to come sit on my face now. And may be to scare up a dupla or two. I've been banging her for 6 years.[/QUOTE]
At Central, you can buy a registered SIM chip for 12 r. I recommend ViVo as it has the best internet. Recharge it at kiosks.
[QUOTE=TShelby;2581237]What would be the best option to buy a prepaid SIM card with internet for 10 days? I understand that there will be at Rio Airport but I would prefer to know your opinions, thanks as always![/QUOTE]
Mosaico was just getting fired up at 21 h. So, on Sundays, the optimal time to get to VM is 20 h or later, and for Mosaico, 22 h or later. Elisa Sanches frequents / ed Mosaico according to the locals. Why? Because that's where locals, even porn stars, go to fuck locals. Eliza Sanches, famous though she is, is far from the top girl at Mosaico.
CPF. Cost Per Fuck.
The CPF at VM is 75 reais per half hour, or 120 r per hour, pretty much the same as centro prives, like sexy hot, IE, TDM33/3206, where I went with Jimmy Boy and another rich world monger we met at belprazer today. I sessioned with Stephanie, and one wingman did Karina and Stephanie.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2581785]I linked up with Palcon and Dandyman51 at Trattoria, which is excellent as always.
I suggested we go to VM to get oriented. This was 18 h. We took an uber, though I was willing to take the 457 bus from Copa.
We walked through VM from SouthEast to NorthWest, and found nothing of immediate interest.
My plan was to orient the patrol, mark targets, and circle back for further patrols. We walked past Mosaico. We walked to Hotel Canario. We walked northwest out of VM Triangle and patrolled from street walkers, and found some, but none good enough..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2581786]2) What is your normal message structure when reaching out to a garota found online or Twitter? If you don't speak Portuguese, do you message them in English or Portuguese but using Google translate? Do you let them know you speak little to no Portuguese? I'm curious about this, here in the States I normally send one message, polite but straight to the point asking availability, duration, incall or outcall, and maybe cost if not known or posted. 95% of the time I get a fast response. Curious what others send through WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]Straight to the point is the way to go. The girls don't like long stories. What I usually say in Portuguese is more or less;.
Hi, how are you? I'm a a gringo staying in this or that area or I tell them my hotels name (if I want her to come to my hotel). Then I tell them that I saw positive reviews of her on gpguia. My idea is to tell her that I know what the price should be. I think it works, because I have never been asked more than what the locals pay. Of course, if the girl comes to your hotel instead of you going to her place, the price is slightly, maybe BRL50 higher. Then I ask her what she does and what she doesn't do or how is her "atendimento" and ALWAYS the price. I also mention that I'm going to pay cash. In your case I would mention that you don't speak very good Portuguese, then the girl knows what to expect. Sometimes they answer fast, sometimes the next day and sometimes never.
Before I used to take screenshots of the messages I saw on internet. Below you can see very simple message written by a Brazilian.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2582117]Straight to the point is the way to go.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice. For those coming from the US, keep in mind you are not doing anything illegal or even out of the norm. Same goes for the girl.
She is offering a service and you are purchasing one. Unless you speak Portuguese and are comfortable with the subtle nuances of the culture and language, it is best to keep your communications short and simple. When you meet in person, show your warmth and friendliness. The girl does not know you. The more comfortable she feels around you, the better.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2582117]Straight to the point is the way to go. The girls don't like long stories. What I usually say in Portuguese is more or less;.
Hi, how are you? I'm a a gringo staying in this or that area or I tell them my hotels name (if I want her to come to my hotel). Then I tell them that I saw positive reviews of her on gpguia. My idea is to tell her that I know what the price should be. I think it works, because I have never been asked more than what the locals pay. Of course, if the girl comes to your hotel instead of you going to her place, the price is slightly, maybe BRL50 higher. Then I ask her what she does and what she doesn't do or how is her "atendimento" and ALWAYS the price. I also mention that I'm going to pay cash. In your case I would mention that you don't speak very good Portuguese, then the girl knows what to expect. Sometimes they answer fast, sometimes the next day and sometimes never.
Before I used to take screenshots of the messages I saw on internet. Below you can see very simple message written by a Brazilian.[/QUOTE]This makes a lot of sense, mentioning GPGuia says you've done some DD, I'm glad you shared this info! Hoping it works when I put it to the test next month!
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2582144]Excellent advice. For those coming from the US, keep in mind you are not doing anything illegal or even out of the norm. Same goes for the girl.
She is offering a service and you are purchasing one. Unless you speak Portuguese and are comfortable with the subtle nuances of the culture and language, it is best to keep your communications short and simple. When you meet in person, show your warmth and friendliness. The girl does not know you. The more comfortable she feels around you, the better.[/QUOTE]It's hard to remember that you have that freedom to discuss openly in Brazil, one can only dream one day we'll be able to in the US as well!
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2581786]I've read 100 pages on the SP and almost the same on the RJ reports but haven't found my answers yet, hoping someone can chime in on your monger operating procedures when visiting a terapias or contacting a Garota found online through WhatsApp.
1) I noticed many terapias and Clinicas list different services on their websites, but none say full service. If I don't care about a massage, how do you approach the conversation about wanting full service only? I speak no Portuguese so I'm trying to work this out in my mind for when I walk in I feel less stupid if they don't offer such services LOL. Example:
[URL]http://copaterapias.com.br/services/[/URL]
I don't see full service. All other options seem pricey BTW, and no full service?
2) What is your normal message structure when reaching out to a garota found online or Twitter? If you don't speak Portuguese, do you message them in English or Portuguese but using Google translate? Do you let them know you speak little to no Portuguese? I'm curious about this, here in the States I normally send one message, polite but straight to the point asking availability, duration, incall or outcall, and maybe cost if not known or posted. 95% of the time I get a fast response. Curious what others send through WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]1. They operate under the guise of massage parlors, but most do offer full service. I think Copa Terapia doesn't offer FS, but I'm not 100% sure I'm thinking about the right place. To take guesswork out of it, check GParena. They have reviews of most establishments in RJ.
2. Like other people say, straight to the point is the best approach, but I like mentioning how pretty she is. I don't know whether it helps or not, but it surely won't hurt. Do mention right away that you don't speak Portuguese. And regardless of what you do, expect a fair number of flake outs, it's just the way it is.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2581787]Cafe Marambaia is worth the trip. The food is awesome, especially paella -- best of my life.
View of Ihla Grande and beach is awesome.
There are several pousadas, and a beach club. Even if you do not have time for a local trip to Ihla Grande or Buzios, a trip to Marambaia with a girl is a good move. Good houses can be rented for 1300 r per month. It is far away, and a dedicated uber driver will be necessary. For the Senhor Spartan's there is a bus. Truly, this is off the grid. You would have to be a real vagabundo to make it here.
This town is undiscovered, and worth a trip.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a gem. I love undiscovered gems in Brazil. Thank you!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2582245]1. They operate under the guise of massage parlors, but most do offer full service. I think Copa Terapia doesn't offer FS, but I'm not 100% sure I'm thinking about the right place. To take guesswork out of it, check GParena. They have reviews of most establishments in RJ.![/QUOTE]You're correct, I was recently in Copa terapia and they don't provide sex but they do provide an orgasm via a handjob at the end. I got the nuru massage where the orgasm is provided but I'm pretty sure it's not provided for all massages. If you're interested in this type of thing just ask if the massage includes Orgasm which is the word that they used.
Whenever you fuck a Brazilian play this [URL]https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw&feature=share[/URL].
Play the Full album Felipe Ret.
[URL]https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/s/UybMu[/URL]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2582245]Sounds like a gem. I love undiscovered gems in Brazil. Thank you![/QUOTE]
Tuesday. Vagabundo, JimmyBoy99, and Bravo Centro Terma Patrol.
We did a centro terma patrol, having linked up at RB156. We did go over to Casa Bombeiro, and in loja 20, my wingman got a nice grey Bombeiro Civil hat. I've posted the Casa Bombeiro address before.
As a navigator, Bravo is the best! He had a full list from top to bottom of the main three buildings (156,185).
It is fun to go in and interview all the girls and enjoy the economic and other privilege of knowing you can bang any woman.
Rather than hit all the details, I will summarize the highlights.
In RB156, the best talent is at 2235, or Onix. There was a hot mulata getting ready for an hour with another client who did not come into the presentation.
In RB185, the best talent was at 405, which had a large equipe (team). Belprazer at 2114 is always top shelf, as I get the impression that is their flagship casa (Duda, Emporio, Annes, Massagem are all co owned AFAIK).
We headed over to where Jimmy boy is staying, but not before checking in with the legendary Kelly, who is a real piece of work, tall, amazon-esque, could be a fearsome MMA opponent if she were so inclined, and I can see she knows how to fuck, and could easily fight. She is a little too tall and muscular for my taste, I prefer the falsa magra, and younger (18-21), but I will probably do her once just because it is Rio and fucking is like shaking hands.
Emporio Bahno had the best line up. A hot mulata there almost got my donation, and I will be back to this tier 1 prive. Nice rooms, good selection. 2-3 very solid 7-9's.
We ate at Zanetti, a buffet a kilo with good tuna.
We hit Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower, where I hit the 18th floor pool, and racked out on one of the benches for a bit, after testing the waters, and just putting my feet in. My suggestion is to meet up there at 14 h tomorrow, Wednesday, before heading over to 4 x 4 at 16 h, for a kind of ISG social. The sauna in 4 x4 is among the best in centro and works well after a dip in the pool where one gets bremuda shorts wet.
After that refresher, I headed over to 116, and did one of my favorite hot 21 year old negras, falsa magra, super tight, a anne amari clone, for 80 reais, or 16 US Dollars. OK, 116 is dingy, and all the rest, but it is the place where the best negras come in centro.
A fine day.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2582380]Whenever you fuck a Brazilian play this [URL]https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw&feature=share[/URL].
Play the Full album Felipe Ret.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2582608]... but not before checking in with the legendary Kelly, who is a real piece of work, tall, amazon-esque, could be a fearsome MMA opponent if she were so inclined, and I can see she knows how to fuck, and could easily fight. She is a little too tall and muscular for my taste, I prefer the falsa magra, and younger (18-21), but I will probably do her once just because it is Rio and fucking is like shaking hands...[/QUOTE]"Amazon-esque", that was a perfect description of Kelly! Considering Senhor Vagabundo is a Rio mongering champ, you really must try out Kelly, the star of Stellas Massagem. She is very tall, very muscular and have silicon tits. No attributes that I like too much. However, she f*cks better than any pornstar, trying her anal is a must. Don't miss her BBBJCIM, which is incredible. Despite being a giant Amazon woman she's a very kind and sweet woman.
Based on advice on here I've decided to stay in Cococabana but my best off staying close to the beach or is there a better area? I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.
Also is there a map that somebody can link to you with all the different mongering locations around Rio? Thanks!
I was at 4 X4 on Monday and it looks like they are attempting to change their entry fee policy. In the past, if you took a girl before 6 PM, the entry fee was waived. It seems like that will not be the case any longer. They placed tape over the bottom of the price listing sheet explaining entry fee waiver.
When I went to pay my bill on Monday, I saw the entry fee and asked why it was included when I took a girl at 5:30 PM. The clerk yelled out the manager that she was giving me the promotion discount and then took it off my bill. Quietly, she whispered to me that they are trying to do away with that waiver because business is so slow.
Went out about 8 PM for a tour of darkside clubs two termas.
116 Rua de Conceicao: No entry fee. Too loud and too dark. Maybe 8-9 women, a little more men. To the extent I could see the women in the dark, none looked fuckable, so I left.
114 Rua de Conceicao: 10 Real entry (don't know if consumable). Could see from reception desk that it was empty, so left without going in.
31 Rua Alcantara Machado: 15 Real entry (consumable). Asked how many girls present. Was told three. Left without entering.
210 Uruguaiana: No entry fee. Enough light to see the women. Maybe 8-10 there, double that in men. Nobody fuckable so left.
119 Rua de Alfandega: No entry fee. No women, no customers. Completely empty. Left.
Club 502 (65 Rua de Alfandega): 10 Real entry (not consumable). Asked doorman how many women present. Was told 8. Equal number of customers. No one fuckable. Left.
Whiskeria 65 (65 Rua do Rosario): Entry now 70 Real (consumable. Caipirinhas and beers 20 Real). One hour now 325 Real. Monday two-girl special for 525 (545?) Real. Robe optional. Very dark and deafening music. Almost impossible to hear anyone. Maybe 20 women, lots of horse asses. Two women with nice faces but no tits or ass: a brunette who was guzzling down some old guy's vodka and spent the whole time I was there with him, and a tall tanned white girl with blonde dreadlocks, who was usually being felt up by a guy in a robe. Two other OK looking girls but not any better than prive girls at less than half the price. Tried to get some relief from the deafening noise so went to the other salon but it was closed: apparently there are not enough customers on Mondays so they shut the quiet lounge. Left without sessioning.
Was feeling pretty buzzed after 3 caipirinhas and didn't want to probably waste another 50 Real entry so didn't try 4 x4, since I will be going there Wednesday.
Conclusion: don't bother with these clubs (and probably the others) on a Monday night.
Got to VM about 9:30 PM. Dead. Counted 30 girls in the whole horseshoe part of VM. Some clubs closed, some no girls, max three girls in any club. Maybe 15 girls in the clubs across the street. Never seen it so dead.
Went to Mosaico about 10 PM. 30 Real entry (consumable. Beers 12 Real, no caipirinhas. Unfriendliest bartender I have ever met.) 8 girls, all sitting with a bunch of guys. Average prive quality girls. Two peeled off but never made any effort to engage with me, although no great loss since they were so-so at best. Hung around an hour hoping it would improve but it actually got worse as the girls went to do programas and no new girls showed up. When I left there were three girls and maybe 6 guys.
Conclusion: I either have the knack for finding the worst days to go clubbing or the scene is really as bad as it seems. Maybe the only good nights are Friday and Saturday. May check it out again then but no reason to go again before then.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2582677]I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.[/QUOTE]What stuff do you plan on bringing to the beach with you? I have never heard of anyone stealing things off the sand near the water. The stealing usually occurs on the sidewalk between the beach and the street. I have a zip up pocket on my swim trunks so I can keep the room key and money in that and leave my shirt on top of my shoes on the sand. If I am renting a chair and umbrella and have my bag with me, my bag has a clip that I rig to the chair or underside of the umbrella.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2582901]
Conclusion: don't bother with these clubs (and probably the others) on a Monday night.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Jimmy!
Yep, Monday's are generally, world wide, Hookers night off. Lol.
I try and reserve Monday's for GF time.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2582677]Based on advice on here I've decided to stay in Cococabana but my best off staying close to the beach or is there a better area? I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.
Also is there a map that somebody can link to you with all the different mongering locations around Rio? Thanks![/QUOTE]Like Mr. E implies don't bring any stuff with you but your money and key. If you do leave any stuff unattended and go swimming yes there is a good chance they will run off with it. Sometimes people ask me to watch their stuff and I say sure or you can go ask the guy who rented you the chairs to keep it secure in his stand the barraca.
Gearing up for my first trip in many years and I am dismayed to hear Barbarella is closed. I loved that place, many good pulls from there. I didn't mind the prices and always found decent quality women there.
Is Casablanca the next best option for something like Barbarella?
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2583045]Gearing up for my first trip in many years and I am dismayed to hear Barbarella is closed. I loved that place, many good pulls from there. I didn't mind the prices and always found decent quality women there.
Is Casablanca the next best option for something like Barbarella?[/QUOTE]Last time I was in Rio the locals were pushing Marrakech as well as Casa Blanca (White House). Never been to either one, so can't offer any personal insights.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2583045]Gearing up for my first trip in many years and I am dismayed to hear Barbarella is closed. I loved that place, many good pulls from there. I didn't mind the prices and always found decent quality women there.
Is Casablanca the next best option for something like Barbarella?[/QUOTE]Or maybe Dolce Vita. Late night, Copa.
Mosaico near VM as well.
[QUOTE=RioBob;2582374]You're correct, I was recently in Copa terapia and they don't provide sex but they do provide an orgasm via a handjob at the end. I got the nuru massage where the orgasm is provided but I'm pretty sure it's not provided for all massages. If you're interested in this type of thing just ask if the massage includes Orgasm which is the word that they used.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I thought it sounded familiar.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2582677]Based on advice on here I've decided to stay in Cococabana but my best off staying close to the beach or is there a better area? I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.
Also is there a map that somebody can link to you with all the different mongering locations around Rio? Thanks![/QUOTE]I don't know if you're staying at a hotel or apartment, but don't stay 'close' to the beach. Stay across from the beach on Avenida Atlantica. Sure, 1-2 blocks from the beach don't sound like a big deal, but that puts you on Nossa Senhora, which is noisy, polluted, unpleasant and might be an unsafe walk down a side street late at night. Trust me, this one or two blocks (depending where in Copa you're staying) makes a hell of a difference even if staying on Atlantica costs you a few more shekels. The only exception is if you're staying in Arpoador. I love that small area between Copacabana and Ipanema, and there are some upscale apartments there with killer views.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2582901]Went out about 8 PM for a tour of darkside clubs two termas.
Conclusion: don't bother with these clubs (and probably the others) on a Monday night.[/QUOTE]What you experienced on your tour was pretty much equal to what I had experienced late last year. Girl quality is generally pretty bad. Good quality girls can be found in these 'darkside' clubs but it will take a lot of visits and some luck before you can uncover one. From my experience last year, the only one really worth visiting was Rua Uruguaiana, 210. They had the most girls and the best quality (out of the 'darkside' clubs). Still, for me, I do get some excitement and enjoyment out of going to these clubs.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2582902]Conclusion: I either have the knack for finding the worst days to go clubbing or the scene is really as bad as it seems. Maybe the only good nights are Friday and Saturday. May check it out again then but no reason to go again before then.[/QUOTE]Mosaico used to be one of my favorites. I remember the place packed with people, 20-30 girls, non-stop funk music and naked pole dancing. The last time I had a session there was in mid 2019. Went there on a Monday night after midnight. Met this 29 years old named Juliana, face 8/10, mother to a 6 years old boy. Turned out what made her so attractive was because she had indigenous blood in her. Took her for 30 minutes for 150 reais. The sex was pretty good but the room was just god awful. The bed was hella nasty and the light in the room barely worked. I swear I don't know how I was able to tolerate it back then. My last visit was in late 2019. Didn't session as I didn't see anyone that I really liked. Didn't go there on my last trip.
Jimmy, I think you went there too early. Mosaico doesn't get busy until at least after 11 pm. Best nights to go are Thursday or Friday nights.
Mosaico is a good option if one wants to experience something a bit different. Its a pretty good spot to hang out. The girls are not pushy and the quality, in general, is pretty good. Its also a lot lighter on the wallet compared to the termas. Of course all this was 2 years ago. So Jimmy, if you are able to, please check it out again on a Thursday or Friday night around midnight and let us know how things are.
Wednesday epic Pussy Patrol.
Vagabundo headed to centro on the 9 h15 bus from Transamerica. Vagabundo linked up with Palcon who had an appointment with Stephany at TDM33/3206. She was a no show (surprise surprise). JimmyBoy99 also joined the patrol in Sexy Hot.
The team went down to 2414, cacau is notable. Vagabundo made an appointment at 12 h with her.
Then 2106, where the ruiva (redhead), Jade is notable. Also there is Camila, a young girl with big tits no kids. Palcon had left his number with sexy hot for stephany.
We went to some other prives, but they did not want 3 gringos, so we headed down the stairs to the bottom so we could go up and session.
Vagabundo went to 2414, but cacau was being stuffed by another linquica, alas. So he headed down to 2106 for the ruiva, who was excellent. 150 r. Palcon went up to 3206 and there was no Stephany, so he did Karina, who also has been written about on gparena.
JimmyBoy was back at Atlántico tower, changing rooms.
Vagabundo and Palcon went to eat at Zanetti on Rua Rosario. Fresh seared tuna is good.
We were a little late for the 14 h social at the roof of Atlántico tower, but we made it, and linked up with a walk on -- a friend we had made at Bel Prazer -- along the way, and thus, there were 4 knights of the round table by the little pool. Gato1 came up with another 2 friends, and so, there were 7 of us. We had a few beers in the afternoon light of the 18th floor rooftop pool side, where the locals smoked hookah, and the young lesbian lovers cavorted in the pool, along with kids, who were joined by a vagabundo in his Bermuda shorts. A good venue to talk over the travails of mongering in Rio de Janeiro, perhaps the best place in the world to do our particular hobby.
All details were classified Fight Club Confidential and Swiss Navy Secret.
Six of us, without JimmyBoy who, by the way, had to sponsor us as his guests at the rooftop pool terrace, headed over to 116 at 17 h. Four of us sessioned, including Vagabundo with the anne amari clone, who got a 40 minute session for 100 r. She gave a good BBBJ, and is still holding out her BBFS pussy, but Vagabundo, having blown two loads in the ruiva including one out of her mouth and onto the microfiber blanket that is used as a sheet, was drained anyway. Ana Foxxx had been texting Vababundo to schedule an overnight at 18 h, but she was canceled by Vagabundo because the plan was to go to 4 x4. 4 of the 6 sessioned with negras and morenas, tight young 20 year olds, who were chosen in the dingy light of the local bar. Vagabundo tried, and failed to be a DJ, playing "Lawyers Guns and Money" and Santana. The girls danced, but their little carioca brains wanted funk, so Vagabundo put on "Vagabundo e Dama"and all was again right. The patrol had formed up again anyway, and we were ready to roll, which we did.
We rolled to 4 x4. It was 18 h30 or 19 h. Jimmy Boy joined us so we were 7 strong. The talent was excellent. Vagabundo got more numbers. 3 or 4 guys sessioned there. Some of the hot new morenas with their tight MMA bodies were really superb. Criminal vagabundos took up the corner with their bottle service. Maybe we should stake out the same, or not. Since Vagabundo had already sport fucked for 3 loads, he was quite content to dance for tips from the strippers, suck face a little with the girls lusting after him or at least faking it well. There was the tall blonde from Minas Gerais that many have fucked. She agreed to 300 at a hotel for an hour. There is the tall Mulata bad ass negra who has no kids who Vagabundo discussed a viagem to Marambaia with. There are a whole host of new usual suspects in need of fucking.
The sauna is nice, a good warm up after the afternoon. The sauna room has padded lawn furniture chair lounges. Some chatted there. It is a good venue to watch for the best bundas who are chosen to session. Vagabundo, being a Swiss Naval Attache and military genius, gets numbers even there, while the girl is waiting to go fuck. There was Pietra, who one of Gato1's friends picked, a Paulistana with a kid, and a tight hot body. Vagabundo has no shame, scruples, morals or limits.
After the night of socializing, we rolled out in threes, and twos, and Vagabundo got a car for 45 r back to Barra.
Summary: 250 r for fucking, free bus to Centro, 45 r uber back, 40 r for lunch, 25 r for beers.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2582677]Based on advice on here I've decided to stay in Cococabana but my best off staying close to the beach or is there a better area? I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.
Also is there a map that somebody can link to you with all the different mongering locations around Rio? Thanks![/QUOTE]FWIW, don't go into the water at Copacabana. It's basically a sewer. But, if you want to stash your stuff, the Postos along the beach have showers and lockers there for rent. I hear that the water at Barra da Tijuca is relatively clean; but, I can't personally attest to that.
It is clean.
Take It from a Man who has done 50 Olympic triathlons.
[QUOTE=Yossarian;2583296]FWIW, don't go into the water at Copacabana. It's basically a sewer. But, if you want to stash your stuff, the Postos along the beach have showers and lockers there for rent. I hear that the water at Barra da Tijuca is relatively clean; but, I can't personally attest to that.[/QUOTE]
In two weeks I'm embarking on my first trip to Brazil and Rio.
I have read virtually every single post in the Rio forum since just before the Covid crisis hit the world (had tentative plans to go last summer). I have also read most longer posts all the way back through 2018.
Looking at the forum and searching online there don't seem to be a lot of girl friendly hotels. I would appreciate advice on hotels. Preferably I would like to keep the daily rate around 40 Euro or lower, but I can go as high as 60 Euros. Of course I want the hotel to be in Centro, close to the action.
Hotel Windsor Guanabara looks nice, and it seems each room has a balcony / terass which I like since I am a smoker. I also found a budget alternative that doesn't look too bad, Hotel OK, but I'm not sure if it's close enough to the action being located just north of "Praa Passeio Pblico".
I'd also like to know if Rio is a good place to find a girl that stays with you for a few days or a week, like in Thailand. My usual MO on my mongering trips is that the first few days are about quantity, the next few days about quality and the final few days / week I settle for the GFE with one girl.
I will arrive on August 7th and stay for just over two weeks. If anyone want to hit the bars or Termas with an Asian born middle aged Swedish guy, let me know.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2582659]"Amazon-esque", that was a perfect description of Kelly! Considering Senhor Vagabundo is a Rio mongering champ, you really must try out Kelly, the star of Stellas Massagem. She is very tall, very muscular and have silicon tits. No attributes that I like too much. However, she f*cks better than any pornstar, trying her anal is a must. Don't miss her BBBJCIM, which is incredible. Despite being a giant Amazon woman she's a very kind and sweet woman.[/QUOTE]Whoaaa. Looks like my dream girl! How tall is she exactly? I am a sucker for tall women.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2583306]It is clean.
Take It from a Man who has done 50 Olympic triathlons.[/QUOTE]Three days ago [URL]http://www.inea.rj.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/barra_e_zona_sul_boletim-5.pdf[/URL].
Who or whoever leads a wandering life, wanders, wanders, wanders.
I have a surf wallet that I hang round my neck on the necklace of the Swiss Naval Special Warfare, and I keep small change in a bombeiro Militar wallet, while carrying a SOG SEAL Strike inside my waistband, along with a Glock 43 in a neoprene pancake holster.
That last bit about the Glock is pure bullshit, just because I am writing a great spy novel on the beach of Barra the Tijuca, where there is no crime, not on the beach or on the sidewalks back to Barra, because this place is run by Gauchos, straight up Nordic Germanic guards all veterans of the Porto Allegre SWAT Team.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2582934]What stuff do you plan on bringing to the beach with you? I have never heard of anyone stealing things off the sand near the water. The stealing usually occurs on the sidewalk between the beach and the street. I have a zip up pocket on my swim trunks so I can keep the room key and money in that and leave my shirt on top of my shoes on the sand. If I am renting a chair and umbrella and have my bag with me, my bag has a clip that I rig to the chair or underside of the umbrella.[/QUOTE]
Vagabundo Pussy Patrol. Friday 14 h Transamerica, Av Gastao Senges 395, Paris, Perola.
On Friday, we are going to do a barra pussy tour.
14 meet at Av Gastao Senges 395.
We will have beers at the restaurant, maybe the beach or pool. We will to go Paris and Perola Negra after at night.
Join my whatsapp group for deets.
Bring your bluetooth speakers.
Friday 14 h we will have a pussy patrol. Start at 14 h at Transamerica, 385.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2583227]Wednesday epic Pussy Patrol.
Vagabundo headed to centro on the 9 h15 bus from Transamerica. Vagabundo linked up with Palcon who had an appointment with Stephany at TDM33/3206. She was a no show (surprise surprise). JimmyBoy99 also joined the patrol in Sexy Hot.
The team went down to 2414, cacau is notable. Vagabundo made an appointment at 12 h with her.
Then 2106, where the ruiva (redhead), Jade is notable. Also there is Camila, a young girl with big tits no kids. Palcon had left his number with sexy hot for stephany.
We went to some other prives, but they did not want 3 gringos, so we headed down the stairs to the bottom so we could go up and session...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nordico;2583320]Three days ago [URL]http://www.inea.rj.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/barra_e_zona_sul_boletim-5.pdf[/URL].[/QUOTE]Them frente ao 2º GBM (Bombeiros), nearest to Transamerica is in red (not clean).
Lululemon Bermuda shorts have CC pocket.
[URL]https://shop.lululemon.com/p/men-shorts/Pace-Breaker-Short-NF-7-Lined/_/prod9310050?color=49229[/URL]
Local equivalent store is Decathlon.
I like 5. 11 Apex pant, with bermudas under and keep surf wallet in pocket of bermudas.
[URL]https://www.511tactical.com/apex-pant.html[/URL]
For real operations I wear a triathlete. Bottom with side pockets for wallet beneath Apex pants but they get hot.
Boxer briefs wotu well and one can swim in them too.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2582934]What stuff do you plan on bringing to the beach with you? I have never heard of anyone stealing things off the sand near the water. The stealing usually occurs on the sidewalk between the beach and the street. I have a zip up pocket on my swim trunks so I can keep the room key and money in that and leave my shirt on top of my shoes on the sand. If I am renting a chair and umbrella and have my bag with me, my bag has a clip that I rig to the chair or underside of the umbrella.[/QUOTE]
I did Ana Foxxx, two pops, BBFSCIP and up her tight ass. 400 r plus uber, which came to 160. I bought her lunch at the beach, and bought stuff she wanted like a bathing suit (70), and some batteries which I kept, and a sunguard shirt which I kept, all in 600 reads or so for those trinkets and the lunch. Her attendance has some problems, like her ordering food just for her self on the phone, or even at the restaurant; Brazilians are the most selfish people in the world. And she always is in a rush to leave, which pisses me off, and she was reluctant about the deep French kissing (she obviously has boyfriends more her age). But I take it as it comes. To fuck the real Ana foxxx in North America would cost 1000 USD an hour from what I hear, and it would be covered, and it would be in some uncomfortable venue like a hotel room with some security guy sitting somewhere nearby. Ana foxxx -- my real hooker here in Rio -- has her flaws, but I love the fucking, and she comes, and we go for a good 40 minutes of raw heat of the jungle sex, sometimes over an hour. Sex is a good workout.
The other problem with whoring with these hookers is the bad health habits -- the constant smoking. Whether ganja is a gateway to coke, it is definitely a gateway to nicotine, and that is just bad. Alcohol is bad. The cannabis by itself is better than liquor and nicotine, but in an ideal world I would avoid that too.
In any case, after I sent Ana Foxx on her uber, I hit 4 x 4, where Palcon was banging the best girls. Dandy and I met up with him, but went over to 116, where we both sessioned.
Tomorrow is a Barra patrol, which, I would suggest should be a minimum 1 day in any pro forma week long patrol by a new monger.
We are meeting at Transamerica at 2 PM, and it looks like 3 at least. The plan is to socialize in the afternoon sun, maybe at the beach (as I may not be able to get everyone into the pool), or at the very least at the restaurant, and then to hit Paris Cafe and or Perola Negra later that night. There are good rooms at both termas. I will also set up my room at Transamerica so people could grab a nap there or we could bring some girls back to my room.
Greetings fellow deviants!
After a subpar trip last December due to traveling with a drag of a friend, I am making my much needed return to Rio. I've been lining some honeys up from future trips and will of course hit the prives and Termas. One of my girls suggested doing a sex party with me, her and 4 girls from her gym. I've been bugging her for this for like 3 years. So, I'm trying to find a good location to do it: no issues with neighbors, nice open space indoors, large private jacuzzi and / or pool and reasonably priced to accommodate 6-8 people comfortable. Looking for hourly / partial day rental or overnight rental. Thanks in advance!
After having checked "regular" travel advice I decided to change and I have now reserved a room at Hotel Astoria Palace for my stay. It is very close to the Copa beach and seems to be girl friendly. I booked a double room for two persons to make sure.
Since it's my first trip and I speak neither Portuguese nor Spanish I figured it's best to stay in a mainstream tourist area.
If anyone want to meet up for some bar hopping or Terma visits I will be in Rio 7-23 August.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2583538]..........Sex is a good workout.
The other problem with whoring with these hookers is the bad health habits -- the constant smoking. Whether ganja is a gateway to coke, it is definitely a gateway to nicotine, and that is just bad. Alcohol is bad. The cannabis by itself is better than liquor and nicotine, but in an ideal world I would avoid that too.[/QUOTE]I wonder if this is a self-selection process. Most of the girls I have ran around with in Rio don't smoke and ony drink a bit. I am turned off by kissing cigarette mouths. The 4 x4 girls I am generally partial to seem like they are dedicated sexual athletes. No joke.
I'm curious what other's experiences are.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2583669]I wonder if this is a self-selection process. Most of the girls I have ran around with in Rio don't smoke and ony drink a bit. I am turned off by kissing cigarette mouths. The 4 x4 girls I am generally partial to seem like they are dedicated sexual athletes. No joke.
I'm curious what other's experiences are.[/QUOTE]My experience has been the same as yours. Now, the problem isn't so much with them smoking and drinking and you kissing on "ashtray" mouth. No, you got to be concerned more about if she used Scope in between cum shots to the pearlie whites! Aaaahahaha!
[QUOTE=Questner;2583380]Them frente ao 2 GBM (Bombeiros), nearest to Transamerica is in red (not clean). [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nordico;2583320]Three days ago http://www.inea.rj.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/barra_e_zona_sul_boletim-5.pdf[/QUOTE]Your post with the ". pdf" (as of Jul-19-2021) of the cleaner beaches to be found in Rio, is very interesting, very interesting indeed. It looks like an official undertaking from the Governo do Rio (and by extension the Prefeitura the Cidade do Rio), so one can only assume it warrants some merit.
Since recent talk about some beaches being cleaner than others, it comes as somewhat of a shock that the Copa beaches are in better standing than others (like Barra) that were seen as being cleaner. Perhaps the upkeep with regards to Copa and Leme, has been better than first realized.
Thanks! That's Great info and good to know!
Girassol.
Jacaparagua.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2583585]Greetings fellow deviants!
After a subpar trip last December due to traveling with a drag of a friend, I am making my much needed return to Rio. I've been lining some honeys up from future trips and will of course hit the prives and Termas. One of my girls suggested doing a sex party with me, her and 4 girls from her gym. I've been bugging her for this for like 3 years. So, I'm trying to find a good location to do it: no issues with neighbors, nice open space indoors, large private jacuzzi and / or pool and reasonably priced to accommodate 6-8 people comfortable. Looking for hourly / partial day rental or overnight rental. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spidy;2583727]Your post with the ". pdf" (as of Jul-19-2021) of the cleaner beaches to be found in Rio, is very interesting, very interesting indeed. It looks like an official undertaking from the Governo do Rio (and by extension the Prefeitura the Cidade do Rio), so one can only assume it warrants some merit.
Since recent talk about some beaches being cleaner than others, it comes as somewhat of a shock that the Copa beaches are in better standing than others (like Barra) that were seen as being cleaner. Perhaps the upkeep with regards to Copa and Leme, has been better than first realized.
Thanks! That's Great info and good to know![/QUOTE]I've posted a live link to the government agency monitoring the beaches. I suggest anyone who stays in Rio bookmark and loads this page every time they're going to the beach, because things change daily.
[URL]https://praialimpa.net[/URL]
You really need to check it daily. I. e. Today it seems all Copa and Ipa beaches are clean, while Barra is 50:50, but it's not always this way. I even see that a Botafogo beach today (Marquês de Olinda) is shown as clean. Maybe you shouldn't fully trust this resource (I probably still wouldn't go into the water in Botafogo), but it's better then flying blind, I think.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2583738]I've posted a live link to the government agency monitoring the beaches. I suggest anyone who stays in Rio bookmark and loads this page every time they're going to the beach, because things change daily.
[URL]https://praialimpa.net[/URL]
You really need to check it daily. I. e. Today it seems all Copa and Ipa beaches are clean, while Barra is 50:50, but it's not always this way. I even see that a Botafogo beach today (Marqus de Olinda) is shown as clean. Maybe you shouldn't fully trust this resource (I probably still wouldn't go into the water in Botafogo), but it's better then flying blind, I think.[/QUOTE]It seems to be the same info. If you scroll down the page of Praia Limpa, it says the source (Fonte) is Inea [URL]http://www.inea.rj.gov.br/ar-agua-e-solo/balneabilidade-das-praias/[/URL].
Vaga Is 1200 Brazilian reas per day a good budget for mongering?
Obviously it depends on the girl but I'm talking about an 8/10 or higher.
Also what's you're schedule like on November 10th, 11th and 12th. I'll monger with you during these days or if anyone wants to monger and be my wingman That would be super fun. I'm down to have orgys, girl swaps and whatever goes really.
I'll be staying at Hotel Windsor or Hotel Transamerica till the 10th, then will just stay in the love hotel Malaga you mentioned on 10th 11th and 12th OR the 150 m one near club mosaic.
I'm also going on a seeking date on August 9th with a beautiful 24 year student whose going to med school to become a doctor, met her on seeking LOL.
[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2583624]After having checked "regular" travel advice I decided to change and I have now reserved a room at Hotel Astoria Palace for my stay. It is very close to the Copa beach and seems to be girl friendly. I booked a double room for two persons to make sure.
Since it's my first trip and I speak neither Portuguese nor Spanish I figured it's best to stay in a mainstream tourist area.
If anyone want to meet up for some bar hopping or Terma visits I will be in Rio 7-23 August.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Astoria 3 weeks ago. It s kinda girl friendly, I would advise looking elsewhere. They will let you bring in ONE female on your 2 person reservation!! If you bring in a different girl for an over night experience, they will charge you an 80 R fee for each new female. Not a lot of money, but it sucks to have to pay a fee when you already payed for two fucking people.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2583804]I stayed at Astoria 3 weeks ago. It s kinda girl friendly, I would advise looking elsewhere. They will let you bring in ONE female on your 2 person reservation!! If you bring in a different girl for an over night experience, they will charge you an 80 R fee for each new female. Not a lot of money, but it sucks to have to pay a fee when you already payed for two fucking people.[/QUOTE]If it's not an overnight, do you still have to pay?
300 r a day.
80 r half hour morning with a Prive girl.
80 r half hour afternoon Prive girl.
120 r at night hour one of those girls.
600 for a big day, but 300 as a rule.
Alternative 300 Pernoite with a regular, which is 24 h of all you can fuck, 5 pops, 3 times a week, which means fuck at night, fuck in morning, and on the 7th day, hike but don't have sex.
You can scroll through and find alternative budgets. Whether one is better than the other is what we call high class problems.
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2583775]Vaga Is 1200 Brazilian reas per day a good budget for mongering?
Obviously it depends on the girl but I'm talking about an 8/10 or higher.
Also what's you're schedule like on November 10th, 11th and 12th. I'll monger with you during these days or if anyone wants to monger and be my wingman That would be super fun. I'm down to have orgys, girl swaps and whatever goes really.
I'll be staying at Hotel Windsor or Hotel Transamerica till the 10th, then will just stay in the love hotel Malaga you mentioned on 10th 11th and 12th OR the 150 m one near club mosaic.
I'm also going on a seeking date on August 9th with a beautiful 24 year student whose going to med school to become a doctor, met her on seeking LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bravo;2583804]I stayed at Astoria 3 weeks ago. It s kinda girl friendly, I would advise looking elsewhere. They will let you bring in ONE female on your 2 person reservation!! If you bring in a different girl for an over night experience, they will charge you an 80 R fee for each new female. Not a lot of money, but it sucks to have to pay a fee when you already payed for two fucking people.[/QUOTE]When I stayed there (was a long time ago), I brought in different girls on different nights. It was different girls, but it was only [B]one[/B] girl per day / night on my two-person reservation, and there were no "chica fees". And of course the location in Copa is great if you want to be in Copa.
In 20+ years of traveling to brasil, tonight was the Second time that I had a girl want to suck my dick with a condom. To say I was annoyed is an understatement. I normally pay 200-250 R for a Mabs girl but this female was steadfast on 300 R. Reluctantly I gave in because she has a big booty. I explained to her that "I had been in Brasil for over a month and that sometimes it is difficult to cum because you become desensitized with condom use, so I needed a girl who really new how to suck dick so I could bust". She just nodded her head.
When we got in the room, before she even got naked, she asked where my rubbers were. I thought that was kinda strange but didn't say anything. Sat on the side of the bed and opened the condom. I said "Ummm, you are not going to try and suck my dick with a condom are you?" She told me she ONLY does it with a condom.
Trying to keep my cool, I said "didn't you hear what I said at Mabs about me needing a blow job master?" Her response was textbook "I heard what you said but you didn't specifically ASK me if I did it without a condom!" I just looked at her, smiled and asked her to pick up the money from the dresser and leave. I never thought that in Rio de Janeiro, I would actually have to ask a fucking hoe if she uses a condom for BJs. This isn't fucking Sosua, DR, it shouldn't even be a question!
I plain blasting her picture of the different sites I am a member of, so guys will know what they are getting into before they take her back to the room (Before you guys ask, I payed her so the problem would go away. Trust me, I felt like throwing her out, but for 60 bucks its not worth the potential hassle f dealing with police!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2583738]I've posted a live link to the government agency monitoring the beaches. I suggest anyone who stays in Rio bookmark and loads this page every time they're going to the beach, because things change daily.
[URL]https://praialimpa.net[/URL]
You really need to check it daily. I. e. Today it seems all Copa and Ipa beaches are clean, while Barra is 50:50, but it's not always this way. I even see that a Botafogo beach today (Marqus de Olinda) is shown as clean. Maybe you shouldn't fully trust this resource (I probably still wouldn't go into the water in Botafogo), but it's better then flying blind, I think.[/QUOTE]I have all of them mapped in Google Earth. Some beaches will always be a no go because of geography, usually near a river or a channel from the inland into the ocean.
[QUOTE=Questner;2583849]I have all of them mapped in Google Earth. Some beaches will always be a no go because of geography, usually near a river or a channel from the inland into the ocean.[/QUOTE]Al this talk of water is making me thirsty.
We haven't had a report on the price of Cocos lately.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2583823]When I stayed there (was a long time ago), I brought in different girls on different nights. It was different girls, but it was only [B]one[/B] girl per day / night on my two-person reservation, and there were no "chica fees". And of course the location in Copa is great if you want to be in Copa..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a lot of girl friendly hotels around, at least very few listed online that I can find. The only other nice looking option I found was Promenade Princess, but it was fully booked.
I would appreciate any advice on girl friendly hotes. Preferably close to the beach, but most importantly in a safe area where I can walt to close by bars or restaurants at night.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2583829]I plain blasting her picture of the different sites I am a member of, so guys will know what they are getting into before they take her back to the room.[/QUOTE]What other Rio sites you are apart of? I am planning a trip for memorial day 2022 and I am trying to get as much info as I can before I go. I tried PMing you but your message box was full.
Barra is always clean.
Even leblon and Ipanema is bisected by a shit river of sewage.
Not to start another high class. Feud but I swim in the clean water of Barra posto 6 and 7 weekly.
[QUOTE=Questner;2583849]I have all of them mapped in Google Earth. Some beaches will always be a no go because of geography, usually near a river or a channel from the inland into the ocean.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bravo;2583829]... I never thought that in Rio de Janeiro, I would actually have to ask a fucking hoe if she uses a condom for BJs. This isn't fucking Sosua, DR, it shouldn't even be a question!...[/QUOTE]I have had similar experiences with a bitchy attitude to go with it many in Sosua as you rightfully pointed out. In such circumstances I have a bit of difficulty getting an erection. However, I always try to get hard and bang her for as much time as the agreed to payment allows. I cannot ever recall allowing her to leave with the money with no attempt to consumate. That would make me too angry.
[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2583893]Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a lot of girl friendly hotels around, at least very few listed online that I can find. The only other nice looking option I found was Promenade Princess, but it was fully booked.
I would appreciate any advice on girl friendly hotels. Preferably close to the beach, but most importantly in a safe area where I can walt to close by bars or restaurants at night.[/QUOTE]I have stayed there as well, but stopped because the scene on that end dried up (mainly Help, Puta Praia, L'uomo). Accommodations were decent, but on the more expensive side.
[QUOTE=Trojan22;2583816]If it's not an overnight, do you still have to pay?[/QUOTE]I didn't have to pay a fee if she came over during the day or evening and left. Only if she stayed all night. SO you can have multipole females come visit but they just can't sleep over unless you want to pay the 80 R.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2583829]In 20+ years of traveling to brasil, tonight was the Second time that I had a girl want to suck my dick with a condom. To say I was annoyed is an understatement. I normally pay 200-250 R for a Mabs girl but this female was steadfast on 300 R. Reluctantly I gave in because she has a big booty. I explained to her that "I had been in Brasil for over a month and that sometimes it is difficult to cum because you become desensitized with condom use, so I needed a girl who really new how to suck dick so I could bust". She just nodded her head.
When we got in the room, before she even got naked, she asked where my rubbers were. I thought that was kinda strange but didn't say anything. Sat on the side of the bed and opened the condom. I said "Ummm, you are not going to try and suck my dick with a condom are you?" She told me she ONLY does it with a condom.
Trying to keep my cool, I said "didn't you hear what I said at Mabs about me needing a blow job master?" Her response was textbook "I heard what you said but you didn't specifically ASK me if I did it without a condom!" I just looked at her, smiled and asked her to pick up the money from the dresser and leave. I never thought that in Rio de Janeiro, I would actually have to ask a fucking hoe if she uses a condom for BJs. This isn't fucking Sosua, DR, it shouldn't even be a question!
I plain blasting her picture of the different sites I am a member of, so guys will know what they are getting into before they take her back to the room (Before you guys ask, I payed her so the problem would go away. Trust me, I felt like throwing her out, but for 60 bucks its not worth the potential hassle f dealing with police![/QUOTE]What a nightmare! Try going to the Cocal Casino in Jaco, Costa Rica if you want a real horror show. The only girls there that will BBBJ are 35 year olds with severe baby damage and bad teeth. I'm currently in Colombia where it's not quite as bad as CR, but this has been a real struggle. Curiously-Colombia lovers just shrug and deal with it. I'm not sure how anyone could ever enjoy a covered blowjob unless maybe it was your first blowjob.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2584003]I have stayed there as well, but stopped because the scene on that end dried up (mainly Help, Puta Praia, L'uomo). Accommodations were decent, but on the more expensive side.[/QUOTE]If you txt then and ask 95% of time you will get no as answer.
Just do it without asking.
Written "rules" and in reality is never the same.
Rent for 1-2 nights and see how it goes.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2584039]What a nightmare! Try going to the Cocal Casino in Jaco, Costa Rica if you want a real horror show. The only girls there that will BBBJ are 35 year olds with severe baby damage and bad teeth.[/QUOTE]Jaco wasn't bad before things exploded. There were always a few attractive, young girls floating around at Cocal and the disco. They weren't hardcore because they didn't seem too concerned with scoring a P4 P guy. You had to buy them drinks and dance with them before you asked them to come back to your hotel.
My buddies and I were at the Beatle Bar early in the evening. A group of cute girls were shooting baskets at an inside hoop. We try to start a conversation and get in on the game. No way Jose! Not going to happen. The girls wanted to hang with the girls. Long story short, by chance we met them at the disco and we're partying like Beatle Bar never happened. We took home three of them back to Cocal for the night.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2583950]Barra is always clean.
Even leblon and Ipanema is bisected by a shit river of sewage.
Not to start another high class. Feud but I swim in the clean water of Barra posto 6 and 7 weekly.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you can see if the water is unclean and dangerous. Other times you can't, which is why there are specialized labs where water samples are analyzed and recommendations are issued on a daily basis. If anything, I would take the LNEA suggestions as basic and minimal, as in if they say impropria, don't swim there.
5.99 r.
Mundial.
Copa.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2583860]Al this talk of water is making me thirsty.
We haven't had a report on the price of Cocos lately.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2583860]Al this talk of water is making me thirsty.
We haven't had a report on the price of Cocos lately.[/QUOTE]Cocô is a big business in agriculture. Reading reports on it needs acquired taste.
Knowing the quality of the beach close to your hotel (one of the basic travel information we share) is important for visitors who love the ocean.
Bravo did the right thing. 60 is not worth a conflict with the cops.
That said, here is my immediate action.
I have a GoPro in a scuba housing with a lanyard. If things go south with a girl in the room, I put the camera around the neck. The necklace case for a cell phone accomplishes the same thing; one can be bought at decathlon.
If things go south, I immediately start filming the situation.
Then of course, just get dressed. But the reason this situation is so bad, is you are literally naked, expecting a BBBJ, and the covered BJ always kills it.
Bravo is a good man and we wish him better sex with the next provider; good to hear from senhor Zebrastripes.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2584039]What a nightmare! Try going to the Cocal Casino in Jaco, Costa Rica if you want a real horror show. The only girls there that will BBBJ are 35 year olds with severe baby damage and bad teeth. I'm currently in Colombia where it's not quite as bad as CR, but this has been a real struggle. Curiously-Colombia lovers just shrug and deal with it. I'm not sure how anyone could ever enjoy a covered blowjob unless maybe it was your first blowjob.[/QUOTE]
I went into centro and linked up with JimmyBoy99.
We hit some prives, and had a good time.
Then we hit copa, where the 7 amigos from this week linked up across from the Marriot. The agro pan handlers really are a downer. We headed over to Solarium. I had an excellent dinner at the sushi place across from Solarium with another monger, while the majority of the patrol went up in Solarium.
All is well in Rio.
[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2583893]Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a lot of girl friendly hotels around, at least very few listed online that I can find. The only other nice looking option I found was Promenade Princess, but it was fully booked.
I would appreciate any advice on girl friendly hotes. Preferably close to the beach, but most importantly in a safe area where I can walt to close by bars or restaurants at night.[/QUOTE]Just off the top of my head look at the Porto Bay hotel which is dead center where the girls and bars are in Copacabana. Other hotels girl friendly are Marriott and Pestana.
Are all you guys who routinely burn up this thread complaining about hotels not being girl-friendly the same guys who are running around Rio in gangs acting like the fat kid who has been left alone in the candy shop? Or worse, and now thinks he owns it.
Grow up. Act like adults and you will not have an issue. I never have in all the years and months at a time staying at hotels all over Rio had one girl-friendly hotel issue.
Act like someone with something to hide and that you can't be trusted and guess what? You won't be.
You guys keep beating this same horse over and over and over again instead of looking in the mirror.
I read two boates were closed today by the municipality, one in Jardim and one in Barra (don't know the names). Technically boates, dance clubs and event halls should not operate at least until August 9.
I'll be coming to Rio with friends, including an attractive and very open minded female who is not my girlfriend.
Would hate to exclude her from the fun. The plan is to do a lot of Dolce Vita / whatever Boates we can find most of the time. My understanding is that she will not be welcome in termas, right?
I assume she will have no problem getting into Casablanca/Marrakech/Mosaico and the like.
I've just never been to Rio with a woman. Any suggestions appreciated.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2584580]...My understanding is that she will not be welcome in termas, right?...[/QUOTE]I was in a terma, fairly long time ago, and I saw an American girl partying there. Unfortunately she caused a scene at the end. She partied with 2 girls in a 3-some but would not pay the 2-girl price. She also kept arguing with the folks there, until the guys in her party stepped in and paid for her part.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2584585]I was in a terma, fairly long time ago, and I saw an American girl partying there. Unfortunately she caused a scene at the end. She partied with 2 girls in a 3-some but would not pay the 2-girl price. She also kept arguing with the folks there, until the guys in her party stepped in and paid for her part.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Come to think about it, I remember hearing some talks about mixed days at termas many many years ago, can't tell. But even if they once did it, they stopped a long time ago.
Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio. Keep in mind that this guide was made for the newbie, not the experienced monger spending a long time on ground. As such, my recommendations reflect 1.) my own bias and 2.) my own perception of how to maximize one's time and experience without necessarily a big focus on saving some money. That being said. Here it is:
Pure gold here, thanks for taking the time and care to write this up. How much did risk & hassle from see-19 factor into your decision to go? And how much practical daily impact did you notice (I. E. Masks, limitations on people in venues, etc)? Appreciate your input.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2584580]I'll be coming to Rio with friends, including an attractive and very open minded female who is not my girlfriend.
Would hate to exclude her from the fun. The plan is to do a lot of Dolce Vita / whatever Boates we can find most of the time. My understanding is that she will not be welcome in termas, right?
I assume she will have no problem getting into Casablanca/Marrakech/Mosaico and the like.
I've just never been to Rio with a woman. Any suggestions appreciated.[/QUOTE]Allowing couples was a thing at a number of the termas, back-in-the-day, on certain days, but not so much these days. I'm not sure, but it may still be allowed at certain termas, just phone and ask.
If she's open minded enough to want to be your "pretend girlfriend", you could consider checking out swinging in Rio, as an option. PM (or DM) Rio Bob, he may have some helpful tips and suggestions. Or just search/read Rio Bob's many posts w/r to his cool swinging escapades.
The dream woman is a lesbian or bi rich girl who likes going to Rio de Janeiro to fuck women too. Where do I find a woman like that?
[QUOTE=Spidy;2584656]Allowing couples was a thing at a number of the termas, back-in-the-day, on certain days, but not so much these days. I'm not sure, but it may still be allowed at certain termas, just phone and ask.
If she's open minded enough to want to be your "pretend girlfriend", you could consider checking out swinging in Rio, as an option. PM (or DM) Rio Bob, he may have some helpful tips and suggestions. Or just search/read Rio Bob's many posts w/r to his cool swinging escapades.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2584039]What a nightmare! Try going to the Cocal Casino in Jaco, Costa Rica if you want a real horror show. The only girls there that will BBBJ are 35 year olds with severe baby damage and bad teeth. I'm currently in Colombia where it's not quite as bad as CR, but this has been a real struggle. Curiously-Colombia lovers just shrug and deal with it. I'm not sure how anyone could ever enjoy a covered blowjob unless maybe it was your first blowjob.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Bogota is funny like that -- even with prepagos and "normal" girls. I think it has more to do with them having sex with a foreigner, aka sex-tourist, than anything else. I guarantee you they are not covering up like that for their local men for the most part.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2584721]The dream woman is a lesbian or bi rich girl who likes going to Rio de Janeiro to fuck women too. Where do I find a woman like that?[/QUOTE]Agreed, that mash-up of sexual diversity, does sound like fun. Lots of fun!
I wish I had an interesting story or two about [I]"a lesbian, a rich girl and a straight guy flying to Rio...",[/I] or some such similar story I could share, but I haven't been that lucky...yet.
Let's hope, Smokers Rule, is able to provide us with a story (or two) and report back some of his exploits, should he get lucky on his quest.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2584338]I never have in all the years and months at a time staying at hotels all over Rio had one girl-friendly hotel issue.
Act like someone with something to hide and that you can't be trusted and guess what? You won't be. [/QUOTE]This is interesting.
On my spring visit I stayed at 3 more or less 5* hotels in RJ. Before I arrived, I had inquired by Email about the respective hotel policies concerning ST invited girls. The Hyatt and the Fasano informed me that there were no extra charges for 1 girl per day. The Fairmont told me that I would be charged 250 br plus tax per girl if you can believe that! I stayed at the Fairmont for 3 nights anyway because I had Accor points and I figured I would be fine with the Terma girls and thus not need to bring a girl back to my room.
Then when I arrived in Brazil, RJ was in lockdown mode and all the Termas were closed, so I bit the bullet and invited over a couple of Barra VIP girls on two separate nights to the Fairmont. I tried to bring the 1st girl up to my room without registering her at the front desk, but sure enough hotel security noticed us, and the girl had to show her ID and get registered. Obviously, I was not too happy with the Fairmont's stated guest policy, but to my surprise I was not charged for either girl when I checked out, so I have no idea what the Fairmont's policy really is. Your post might explain their girly policy and why I was treated well, although I would not bet money on it. LOL.
The Fasano and the Hyatt were girl friendly to me from the get go as well as for other hotel guests and over the length of my stay at both hotels I saw a number of call girls come and go in addition to my girls. I had the same experience at the two hotels I stayed at in SP IE they were guest friendly, no extra charges. In fact, on 2 nights in a row, I met a couple of hookers having drinks and looking for customers at the SP Renaissance lobby bar. It felt like home.
But IMHO, a truly girl friendly hotel does not care how many girls a guest may bring back to his room on any occasion and leaves registering them or not registering them totally up to the guest. I do like my threesomes so I am thinking probable advantage Bangkok, Jakarta, and MNL over RJ & SP, but I will see what happens on my next visit to Brazil when I put on my Marcello Mastroianni persona and act like I own the place with a couple girls hanging by my side. It should be fun.
There is a new DJ coming to 4 x 4 -- DJ Gringo, aka, Vagabundo.
Stay tuned!
I had a great time guest DJ'ing and dancing with the girls at 4 x4. I gladly paid the 50 r cover for the zoomba class with women I can fuck as opposed to pussy prison, and for the sauna, and the lawn chairs, and the WiFi. I need to go back and just work on my podcast and VLog materials there with Adobe premire and additions.
The new find of the day is [URL]darkroom.com.br[/URL], a new or sort of new prive with some awesome negra talent.
Earlier in the day, I went to some of the usual prives and banged the usual suspect written about often here. It was as good or better than ever. Thank god prostitution is legal in this libertine country. Fuck the puritans!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2584721]Where do I find a woman like that?[/QUOTE]Perhaps we should meet when I'm in town.
PM me.
You need to clear out your messages.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2585067]Perhaps we should meet when I'm in town.[/QUOTE]
I appreciate the information.
However, I can see from driving that there is no major sewage outlet in Barra, in contrast to the shit river between Leblon and Ipanema, and I've felt the layer of shit in the harbor at Copacabana and further inside G bay, I've felt it and smelt it be more potent when the water is warmer. That along with the agro pan handlers is why I was happy to move out of Copa.
We 7 ISG bros were out on Saturday, and this POS sales **** goes up to our group, and won't take no for an answer. Every no just means the asshole says something like, "oh, are you Vasco (looking at my mask)" and ' you must be extra large". Until I along with Gato1 say, "get the fuck out of here" and "melhor vc vai emorra" and Gato1 actually starts calling for police. At which point POS salesman goes up to Klebber, a POS with a criminal record, and starts loudly complaining about us, and saying, "this is not your country" as if we are obliged to give this jerk money.
You never get that in Barra. They don't allow it. The Gaucho-esque culture of Barra is more like the expat Germans of Porto Allegre who don't tolerate the dirty water and agro pan handlers of Copa. For me, a part German, this makes a lot of difference. I hate that shit.
I can see how bad water gets out in Barra Posto 1, since there is a big river of sorts that empties out there. I can see how that might happen closer to Barra Shopping, where there might be some of that, or out towards Recreio. But where I live there is like zero chance of major pollution of the ocean. Maybe there is, but I can go swim a half mile without checking any website, which is why I live here. It's comparable to La Jolla or Hawaii as a place for ocean swimming.
The key may be to get to some of the surf / swim / yoga schools at the beach in Barra, like the Ecolounge. Which are great places to pull no pro pussy.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2584093]Sometimes you can see if the water is unclean and dangerous. Other times you can't, which is why there are specialized labs where water samples are analyzed and recommendations are issued on a daily basis. If anything, I would take the LNEA suggestions as basic and minimal, as in if they say impropria, don't swim there.[/QUOTE]
Is there a map of different termas someone can post the link to? I'll be there in November. I know I'd the five or six major ones but can't find info on the smaller ones. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2585063]There is a new DJ coming to 4 x 4 -- DJ Gringo, aka, Vagabundo.
Stay tuned!
I had a great time guest DJ'ing and dancing with the girls at 4 x4. I gladly paid the 50 r cover for the zoomba class with women I can fuck as opposed to pussy prison, and for the sauna, and the lawn chairs, and the WiFi. I need to go back and just work on my podcast and VLog materials there with Adobe premire and additions.
The new find of the day is [URL]darkroom.com.br[/URL], a new or sort of new prive with some awesome negra talent.
Earlier in the day, I went to some of the usual prives and banged the usual suspect written about often here. It was as good or better than ever. Thank god prostitution is legal in this libertine country. Fuck the puritans![/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Fuck the Puritans. Love this quote from HL Mencken. Just soooo true:
"Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy," LOL. I still laugh every time I read it.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2585083]
We 7 ISG bros were out on Saturday, and this POS sales **** goes up to our group, and won't take no for an answer. Every no just means the asshole says something like, "oh, are you Vasco (looking at my mask)" and ' you must be extra large". Until I along with Gato1 say, "get the fuck out of here" and "melhor vc vai emorra" and Gato1 actually starts calling for police. At which point POS salesman goes up to Klebber, a POS with a criminal record, and starts loudly complaining about us, and saying, "this is not your country" as if we are obliged to give this jerk money.[/QUOTE]I would expect it in Cartagena, but Rio? In over 20 years I've never experienced anything like that. Quite the contrary, panhandlers in Copa used to be quiet and content with whatever they were getting, not unlike their brethren in New York. Street peddlers could be a bit pushy, but there were certain humor and politeness about them, making interactions with them almost fun (to me at least). Things must've gotten really shitty down there.
P.S. Who or what is Klebber?
Hi guys,
Does anybody can recommend any online sources in Rio. I'm planing a trip right now.
The only one I know is [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/[/URL].
Does Tinder, Badoo etc work pretty well?
Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2585063]There is a new DJ coming to 4 x 4 -- DJ Gringo, aka, Vagabundo.
Stay tuned!
I had a great time guest DJ'ing and dancing with the girls at 4 x4. I gladly paid the 50 r cover for the zoomba class with women I can fuck as opposed to pussy prison, and for the sauna, and the lawn chairs, and the WiFi. I need to go back and just work on my podcast and VLog materials there with Adobe premire and additions.
The new find of the day is [URL]darkroom.com.br[/URL], a new or sort of new prive with some awesome negra talent.
Earlier in the day, I went to some of the usual prives and banged the usual suspect written about often here. It was as good or better than ever. Thank god prostitution is legal in this libertine country. Fuck the puritans![/QUOTE]You going to be the DJ next Wednesday night? I should be there with my agent.
[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2585407]Hi guys,
Does anybody can recommend any online sources in Rio. I'm planing a trip right now.
The only one I know is [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/[/URL].
Does Tinder, Badoo etc work pretty well?
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]PA is an advertising site. Everyone can pay and advertise there. Some scammers, some gems, and everything in between. You just don't know.
The only source you (and everyone else) needs in Rio is gparena. Seriously.
[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2585407]Hi guys,
Does Tinder, Badoo etc work pretty well?
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]These platforms produced nothing for me, as mentioned gparena is the go to resource. But altho there is some B&S on PA it is sometimes worth the gamble for the price being paid, just walk if you are not happy. I've had a couple of bait & switch which turned into nice sessions. Sometimes 3 girls work out of one apartment and I think use one profile. For 150/200 reais it's not a problem if it doesn't work out. Especially in Copa if you can't be bothered going to Centro.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2585249]Is there a map of different termas someone can post the link to? I'll be there in November. I know I'd the five or six major ones but can't find info on the smaller ones. Thanks![/QUOTE]Yes, here on ISG. Look at the User blogs for the Rio de Janeiro Map thread. Map was created by World Travel 69. He's created maps for a lot of cities / countries.
I Will Sing for Jameson's.
But I dance with strippers for free.
Bring your civil bombeiro uniform with these tags.
Ret.
Vagabundo.
DJ.
Porta dos fundos.
Gringo.
Rihanna.
And your cowboy boots.
And stacks of 2 reais notes.
I will be spinning Rihanna, Felipe Ret, oriente.
Taking requests for cash.
Haha.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2585430]You going to be the DJ next Wednesday night? I should be there with my agent.[/QUOTE]
It is Wednesday night.
I picked up Ana Foxxx on the metro, at Botafogo. Jimmy Boy and I patrolled downtown, including Regus, for those of you who want a mobile office. Since Jimmy Boy is a Swiss Bank Regulator, he has a Regus office to examine the church's books. We had a gangbang with all of [URL]BradMontana.com[/URL]'s talent there. We charged it to the account of the Russian Consulate, under plumbing, since the hookers pissed on the former President of the United States.
That last about the Russians is pure bullshit.
So, Vagabundo fucked Ana in her tight ass, which she upcharged Vagabundo to 500 for. Since she is riding the metro, it is the same cost. See how that works?
The following is good music to fuck to, according to our top intelligence asset in country.
Ad usam nostrorum tantum.
// Callsign Vagabundo Sends.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2585339]Couldn't agree more. Fuck the Puritans. Love this quote from HL Mencken. Just soooo true:
"Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy," LOL. I still laugh every time I read it.[/QUOTE]
To: Callsign Anaggie.
From: Callsign Vagabundo.
Please bring cowboy boots, size 10.5, and a cowboy hat. And chaps, leather, 2 sets. Hookers look great in chaps. Please advise cost. I will be glad to pay you in local currency.
The strippers don't like Garth Brooks, but I intend to bribe them to dance to George Strait with small bills, ie, 2 reais notes.
Also, please bring several flags of Texas, in as many sizes as possible, including velcro 3 x5 flags. Oh, and a 5. 11 Tactical Moab 10 pack in grey. That is the official pack of the ISG buttman backpacker club. The near and far recognition signal for the link up will be Texas flags on the velcro, and Vasco the Gama soccer shirts. The Texas Militia will arrive in Rio in support of Vasco the Gama soccer club in order to recruit hookers of sufficient quality for the invasion of Texas by porn, weed, and Brazilian strippers.
Also bring some Indian flags, including in the 3 x5 velcro size. The alternative link up signal is the Indian flag. The country.
I suggest flying out of DFW and picking up our personnel at Dallas Jesuit, SMU, the Bush library, and DFW Naval Air Base.
Oh, and surgical tubing (to fake the dicks that spit out water to put out the fire for the stripper v stripper baby oil wrestling show, and wet t-shirt contest). See where this is going!
Ad Usam Nostrorum Tantum.
Calsign Vagabundo Sends.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2585797]I Will Sing for Jameson's.
But I dance with strippers for free.
Bring your civil bombeiro uniform with these tags.
Ret.
Vagabundo.
DJ.[/QUOTE]
Went to Lapa about 9 PM Tuesday. All the vendors on the strip leading into it were gone and the two clubs next to and across the street from the gas station were closed. Asked a gas station attendant why and was told that Tuesday is their day off. Other clubs open and busy. Walked by Up House, the brothel on Av. Mem de Sa. Tout said free admission. Asked bouncer if could take a free look (olhada sem compromisso). Bouncer said OK. Walked in. 3 girls, all with guys. Walked out. Told bouncer no girls. No issues leaving. Had a couple of caipirinhas (8 real each) at Baronessa bar, listening to live music, and then went back to hotel.
Had a repeat session with a prive girl. Asked her how much of the fee she gets. Was told it was 50%, plus they have to pay a weekly fee for internet ads by the prive, and a fee if they miss a day. Couldn't believe how little they get for an hour of fucking. Lucky if they make 200-300 real a day. Bear that in mind when terma girls or freelancers ask for ridiculous amounts to session.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2585832]Went to Lapa about 9 PM Tuesday. Walked by Up House, the brothel on Av. Mem de Sa. Tout said free admission. Asked bouncer if could take a free look (olhada sem compromisso). Bouncer said OK. Walked in. 3 girls, all with guys. Walked out. Told bouncer no girls. No issues leaving. Had a couple of caipirinhas (8 real each) at Baronessa bar, listening to live music, and then went back to hotel.[/QUOTE]Never heard of this place before. Do you have more info about it? How was the quality of the 3 girls you saw? There are only 2 reports on gparena. The older report dated 10/19/2019 reported 170 reais for 30 minutes. I wonder if the price has increased since then. Regardless, might have to check it out on my next trip.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2585836]Had a repeat session with a prive girl. Asked her how much of the fee she gets. Was told it was 50%, plus they have to pay a weekly fee for internet ads by the prive, and a fee if they miss a day. Couldn't believe how little they get for an hour of fucking. Lucky if they make 200-300 real a day. Bear that in mind when terma girls or freelancers ask for ridiculous amounts to session.[/QUOTE]I just met a cute 23 year old girl who works security at a trucking company, 6 nights a week (10 hour over night shift). She makes 1400 R a month!! I thought about making an indecent proposal and offering her a 2 K a month salary for 3 days a week, 2 hour sessions!! So when I see these terma girls asking for 1000 reais to spend the night. GTFOH!
My biggest problem on this 2 month trip has been finding a girl at night in Mabs / DV who I am willing to spend 300 R / hour for. There are so many girls in centro for 120-150 R an hour that I can't justify paying double that amount!!
I will soon make my first visit to Brazil and Rio de Janeiro and would really appreciate some advice about Vila Mimosa.
"Regular" tourist advice often says that robbery (and murder) is a certainty at Vila Mimosa, whereas some mongers depict it as paradise on earth. I guess the truth is somewhere in between those views. I don't mind if the place is downtrodden and filthy. In fact I like to go to seedy places, as long as they are not very dangerous.
What I mainly want to know is when / if it's safe to visit Vila Mimosa. My second question is if the working girls are "honest", which basically means that they will provide the services promised for the asked price (I know I need to keep an eye on my money and valuables at all times).
I don't speak Portuguese, nor Spanish and I won't blend in since I am of east Asian descent.
The surrounding area is reported to be unsafe, so I know I should make sure to have an Uber or a taxi ready for transports.
Passed by around 5 PM. Decided to check if they were still doing the no entrance fee if you session before 6 PM, as a previous post stated that they trying to get rid of it. One of the owners was by the reception desk, so asked him. He confirmed that they are still doing that.
If you go there, you may want to confirm it for yourself to avoid a surprise.
Hi ISG people who like what I like, which is girls, girls, girls and then fun.
I am a latino from Miami. Speak portuguese quite fluently from my castellano (spanish) native language. I have been many times in Rio, every year from 1999 to 2019. I was pretty familiar with the P4 P scene but not anymore for not being able to visit for the pandemy.
I know my way around Rio and quite familiar with navigating the city. As a result I am happy to report, from the security point of view, had never been in major troubles or had issues with robberies or scams because I like to be very careful. Thru the years I have taken friends and relatives to hobby with ease given my portuguese. I have also been in 4 Rio carnavals and 3 Samba Parades. I 've been in many old venues like legendary Help, Luomo, and all the major termas.
Having said that. This time I am going alone, and given my cautious approach, I would like to get together with fellow mongers in Rio from 8/20 to 8/27. It is safer to party in a group than doing it on your own. Any Rio expert here can tell how dangerous Rio can be.
I want to live the life. Massages, termas, MAB's, and the like. As I have never been to Barra for the "activities" we love so much (only been there for the beaches), I am particularly interested with Senhor Vagabundo who reportedly organizes sexpeditions to the Barra's venues. That I would love to do if Mr Vagabundo would honor me.
I also want to do Rio touristy stuff: Maracana, centro tours, Sugar Loaf, Cristo Redentor, etc. I also plan to visit Ilha Grande and Paraty. I am staying at IBIS Copacabana. It is very near a metro station what makes moving around Rio very quick and cheap.
After Rio, I am going to Manaus from 8/28 to 9/20. I spent there the 2020 carnaval before the COVID shutdown. Happy to report that Manaus is my specialty. I've been visiting MAO from 1996 and know the city like my own hand, specially the whoring venues. I am a card holding founding member of legendary Remulos and similar venues. I am also into doing touristy stuff like river tours, Teatro AMazonas, centro tours, forro's tours, massages tours, etc.
Also extremely pleased to report that MAO (Manaus) is a prime city for non-pros. I have met dozens of normal, sexy, hot, gringo-loving girls. If you want to get a GFE with a normal girlfriend, this the place.
After my trip I will report extensively on Manaus, there's been a very long time since Sperto used to enlighten us about the beautiful, non-pro heaven, Manaus.
If you wan to meet in Rio, or Manaus, PM me.
Papa.
[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2586130]I will soon make my first visit to Brazil and Rio de Janeiro and would really appreciate some advice about Vila Mimosa.
"Regular" tourist advice often says that robbery (and murder) is a certainty at Vila Mimosa, whereas some mongers depict it as paradise on earth. I guess the truth is somewhere in between those views. I don't mind if the place is downtrodden and filthy. In fact I like to go to seedy places, as long as they are not very dangerous.
What I mainly want to know is when / if it's safe to visit Vila Mimosa. My second question is if the working girls are "honest", which basically means that they will provide the services promised for the asked price (I know I need to keep an eye on my money and valuables at all times).
I don't speak Portuguese, nor Spanish and I won't blend in since I am of east Asian descent.
The surrounding area is reported to be unsafe, so I know I should make sure to have an Uber or a taxi ready for transports.[/QUOTE]Villa mimosa is the bottom of the barrel. If you are broke or cheap, go there, otherwise get a real hottie at a terma or the beach. I can't believe people spend all that money and time to go to Brazil and then want to cheapen out like that.
Now that the termas are all open again, and there is this pesky virus, did they ban smoking in all the termas. Please tell me yes.
By the way, that was all a joke. There may have been some whacky tabaccy involved. Please don't buy all that. But if you do, I will pay for it in local currency. Except for the Texas flags. I will take those! I will make an effort to be there next Wednesday. And I do think that training Rio Strippers to appreciate George Strait is a hidden goldmine. The Rio to DFW flights and Rio to Galveston cruises need to be full!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2585818]To: Callsign Anaggie.
From: Callsign Vagabundo.
Please bring cowboy boots, size 10.5, and a cowboy hat. And chaps, leather, 2 sets. Hookers look great in chaps. Please advise cost. I will be glad to pay you in local currency.
The strippers don't like Garth Brooks, but I intend to bribe them to dance to George Strait with small bills, ie, 2 reais notes.
Also, please bring several flags of Texas, in as many sizes as possible, including velcro 3 x5 flags. Oh, and a 5. 11 Tactical Moab 10 pack in grey. That is the official pack of the ISG buttman backpacker club. The near and far recognition signal for the link up will be Texas flags on the velcro, and Vasco the Gama soccer shirts. The Texas Militia will arrive in Rio in support of Vasco the Gama soccer club in order to recruit hookers of sufficient quality for the invasion of Texas by porn, weed, and Brazilian strippers.
Also bring some Indian flags, including in the 3 x5 velcro size. The alternative link up signal is the Indian flag. The country..[/QUOTE]
Hi gents,
Any good soul to share recent updates regarding going back to EU with connection in Madrid.
So confusing and annoying all this nonsence regarding restrictions.
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2586448]Hi gents,
Any good soul to share recent updates regarding going back to EU with connection in Madrid.
So confusing and annoying all this nonsence regarding restrictions.[/QUOTE]I thought you play by your own rules, kkk. It depends on your nationality and destination. All the countries have their own rules.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2586399]By the way, that was all a joke. There may have been some whacky tabaccy involved. Please don't buy all that. But if you do, I will pay for it in local currency. Except for the Texas flags. I will take those! I will make an effort to be there next Wednesday. And I do think that training Rio Strippers to appreciate George Strait is a hidden goldmine. The Rio to DFW flights and Rio to Galveston cruises need to be full![/QUOTE]I took it all with a few grains of salt. LOL!!
I will see if I can find a flag at one of the airport stores during my stop at DFW. I will be taking the MIA-GIG flight so I can skip the GRU-GIG leg and get straight to work once I land.
Will keep you advised on my arrival into 4 x4. Just send me a ping on WhatsApp.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2586399]By the way, that was all a joke. There may have been some whacky tabaccy involved. Please don't buy all that. But if you do, I will pay for it in local currency. Except for the Texas flags. I will take those! I will make an effort to be there next Wednesday. And I do think that training Rio Strippers to appreciate George Strait is a hidden goldmine. The Rio to DFW flights and Rio to Galveston cruises need to be full![/QUOTE]I would imagine that Paulistanos would appreciate your George Strait record collection more than Cariocas. Maybe it's time for you to move south.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2586340]Villa mimosa is the bottom of the barrel. If you are broke or cheap, go there, otherwise get a real hottie at a terma or the beach. I can't believe people spend all that money and time to go to Brazil and then want to cheapen out like that.[/QUOTE]That's exactly how I see it too.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2586340]Villa mimosa is the bottom of the barrel. If you are broke or cheap, go there, otherwise get a real hottie at a terma or the beach. I can't believe people spend all that money and time to go to Brazil and then want to cheapen out like that.[/QUOTE]I just want to go and try it out once.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2586346]Now that the termas are all open again, and there is this pesky virus, did they ban smoking in all the termas. Please tell me yes.[/QUOTE]VM is something everyone should experience at least one time. That was all it took for me. Realize that we all have different tastes and budgets. If in Rio, make the trip and make up your own mind.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2586340]Villa mimosa is the bottom of the barrel. If you are broke or cheap, go there, otherwise get a real hottie at a terma or the beach. I can't believe people spend all that money and time to go to Brazil and then want to cheapen out like that.[/QUOTE]If you're having a blast in Copa, Ipanema, Centro, etc. Don't interrupt your trip to go to Vila Mimosa. I think it's best for those who have long stays or have been to Rio several times, to go take a look.
If a newcomer on his first or second trip really, really wants to check it out, it's certainly an adventure. Don't go with high expectations. Many of us checked VM off our list years ago. Been there, done that.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2586340]Villa mimosa is the bottom of the barrel. If you are broke or cheap, go there, otherwise get a real hottie at a terma or the beach. I can't believe people spend all that money and time to go to Brazil and then want to cheapen out like that.[/QUOTE]Hmmm that's your opinion, and I'm sure others agree with you, however, I'm certainly not broke nor cheap, and I love passing thru VM.
Sometimes I stay 5 minutes, sometimes 5 hours. Depends on the vibe.
I speak pretty good portuguese, and like a lot of guys, pretty good at dando papo (chit chat).
It may be a bottom of the barrel area, but damn have I found some stunners and unspoiled (like Terma types can be) girls there.
We all roll differently in the hunt.
I go high and low, and love it all.
Peace.
Glad to help.
PM me your ZAP (whatsapp).
[QUOTE=PapiMuyRico;]I want to live the life. Massages, termas, MAB's, and the like. As I have never been to Barra for the "activities" we love so much (only been there for the beaches), I am particularly interested with Senhor Vagabundo who reportedly organizes sexpeditions to the Barra's venues. That I would love to do if Mr Vagabundo would honor me.
I also want to do Rio touristy stuff: Maracana, centro tours, Sugar Loaf, Cristo Redentor, etc. I also plan to visit Ilha Grande and Paraty. I am staying at IBIS Copacabana. It is very near a metro station what makes moving around Rio very quick and cheap.
After Rio, I am going to Manaus from 8/28 to 9/20. I spent there the 2020 carnaval before the COVID shutdown. Happy to report that Manaus is my specialty. I've been visiting MAO from 1996 and know the city like my own hand, specially the whoring venues. I am a card holding founding member of legendary Remulos and similar venues. I am also into doing touristy stuff like river tours, Teatro AMazonas, centro tours, forro's tours, massages tours, etc.
Also extremely pleased to report that MAO (Manaus) is a prime city for non-pros. I have met dozens of normal, sexy, hot, gringo-loving girls. If you want to get a GFE with a normal girlfriend, this the place.[/QUOTE]
Two birds with one stone. Sundays, VM.
Last Sunday, I went with Palcon and Dandy to VM. We posted up at casa 52, where both sessioned with a blonde. VM is a good, sometimes the only, option on Sundays.
As I've said, and many have said:
The best talent starts at VM, even if for a week or two, and then goes on to 4 x 4 or other zona sul tier 1 termas.
The real carioca porn stars, like Elisa Sanches, frequent Mosaico and VM because that is where local sex workers go to fuck men they want to fuck. Go after 24 h, after midnight as Clapton says. But that Tier 1 terma girl who had to fuck you in 4 x 4 might not want to fuck you in Mosaico. Some mongers who think they are all that because they can shoot big game where they have to fuck you might not be able to deal with that environment, haha.
As for security, don't take pictures. If you do, security will warn you, and make you delete the pictures.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2586642]Hmmm that's your opinion, and I'm sure others agree with you, however, I'm certainly not broke nor cheap, and I love passing thru VM.
Sometimes I stay 5 minutes, sometimes 5 hours. Depends on the vibe.
I speak pretty good portuguese, and like a lot of guys, pretty good at dando papo (chit chat).
It may be a bottom of the barrel area, but damn have I found some stunners and unspoiled (like Terma types can be) girls there.
We all roll differently in the hunt..[/QUOTE]
Thursday and Friday.
I had some great sessions with the usual suspects at centro termas. It's like groundhog day, but it never gets old. Jimmyboy is a great wingman. Thursday we did niteroi which is recommended just for the views on the boat. I failed to do enough advance recon of GPArena, so we just hit a few prives, which are much more conservative than the Rio counterparts.
You guys who want to meet termas girls in their natural element should take a trip.
[URL]https://www.shoppingnovaiguacu.com.br/[/URL]
If you know a few termas girls well enough, you can go with them at the end of their shifts and spend the night there and all the next day.
Best part is you don't have to worry about stepping in another guy's spunk or worse. For those who claim to speak Portuguese well there is nothing like it.
Fish in a barrel. Just got a woody. Thinking about my VM experience does just the opposite.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2586656]
The real carioca porn stars, like Elisa Sanches, frequent Mosaico and VM because that is where local sex workers go to fuck men they want to fuck. Go after 24 h, after midnight as Clapton says. But that Tier 1 terma girl who had to fuck you in 4 x 4 might not want to fuck you in Mosaico. Some mongers who think they are all that because they can shoot big game where they have to fuck you might not be able to deal with that environment, haha.
.[/QUOTE]On a number of occasions I have seen girls in VM who work Mabs and DV. They flat out refuse to fuck me in VM! Its like their mindset is "I will not fuck you for 70 R in VM because I want gringos to pay me 300 R in Copa!
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2586340]Villa mimosa is the bottom of the barrel. If you are broke or cheap, go there, otherwise get a real hottie at a terma or the beach. I can't believe people spend all that money and time to go to Brazil and then want to cheapen out like that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Balboa;2586642]Hmmm that's your opinion, and I'm sure others agree with you, however, I'm certainly not broke nor cheap, and I love passing thru VM.
Sometimes I stay 5 minutes, sometimes 5 hours. Depends on the vibe.
I speak pretty good portuguese, and like a lot of guys, pretty good at dando papo (chit chat).
It may be a bottom of the barrel area, but damn have I found some stunners and unspoiled (like Terma types can be) girls there.
We all roll differently in the hunt.
I go high and low, and love it all.[/QUOTE]
Yep! The highs make me appreciate the lows and the lows make me appreciate the highs.
I tend NOT to wallow in either for too long and keep an "even keel" as best I can.
• Not too "snobby" and "uppity", to the point, where I can't see the "richness" the local working class girls/people of all stripes and all they have to offer.
• And not to much of a "penny pincher" and "a cheap charlie", to the point where I don't enjoy the hard earned money, I've worked for, with the occasional romp in luxury, opulent pleasures and lush well-to-do locals, life has to offer, once in a while.
Listen, you may never "understand" why someone else likes what they like. [i]It's kind of like "love" in a way.[/i] Do we really get, why someone loves someone else, at times?
To each their own. Enjoy what you like and whatever befits you, your life, personality and your style of play.
Don't apologize for paying a frugal modicum amount, or paying a modicum over payment amount. Neither is wrong or right. If you can find what you want, where you want it, then it's all good. Just sit-back, relax and enjoy. One size does not fit all.
Just know that, they like what they like and that's should be enough.
While you see "trash", someone else sees "treasure". Remember all that "glitters" is not "gold". I could go on, but I think I've come to the end of my "Kum ba yah, Oh Lord", moment...kkkk
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2586340]Villa mimosa is the bottom of the barrel. If you are broke or cheap, go there, otherwise get a real hottie at a terma or the beach. I can't believe people spend all that money and time to go to Brazil and then want to cheapen out like that.[/QUOTE]I've only gone to VM once years ago, but based on that small sample size, I think there are some hot-looking women there. But I didn't end up doing any of them because the conditions are pretty disgusting, like you don't want to touch anything. If I ever went again, I'd bring a sheet or some bed covering with me.
I agree that short-time visitors are better served with the termas, beach, etc.
Actually, the gaucho cowboys of POA -- the German only speaking towns of the hills around there, where the biggest gun maker of Brazil, Taurus, has its HQ like Sao Leopoldo, and the towns that produced Gisele bundschen, and which have her cousins and relatives in large numbers -- are the best target market for George Strait. However my best cover song as a carioca (note the origin of the word) singer is Chris Isaak, and to a lesser extent, Neil Diamond, because I am a German Jew at heart, if not by strict nurture. That said, Rio has it all. The mostly white, super Gaucho culture of Barra is probably where the natural Texas two steppers are hiding in plain site. I go to the beach with negra negra negra Ana Foxxx and she is the only negra for miles in any direction, except for the African sales walker dudes who all zero in on her like male bees to the queen bee, which I like, personally.
American pop music in Brazil comes in all flavors. I like "don't tell them" to fuck too -- again, just "play radio" on music. [URL]youtube.com[/URL]. However, there's nothing like "Calling Baton rouge" to fuck a hot young 18 year old white girl like Elsa Jean or equivalent to.
The white girls like that are going to be found in Barra, leblon, Gavea in the corporate / diplomatic enclaves, and some in Meier, the working class white / branca enclave in Zona Norte.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2586530]I would imagine that Paulistanos would appreciate your George Strait record collection more than Cariocas. Maybe it's time for you to move south.[/QUOTE]
So you go to hotel Canario which is 100 meters on foot away from Mosaico on the north end. Mr E did when I went there with him.
Or for the 24 h patrol base an easy walk to VM, you go to Motel Malaga.
[QUOTE=Combo;2586741]I've only gone to VM once years ago, but based on that small sample size, I think there are some hot-looking women there. But I didn't end up doing any of them because the conditions are pretty disgusting, like you don't want to touch anything. If I ever went again, I'd bring a sheet or some bed covering with me.
I agree that short-time visitors are better served with the termas, beach, etc.[/QUOTE]
Rio George Strait fans. Oil Workers, Halliburton.
One of the long term challenges of living in Rio for a retired Swiss naval intelligence officer with broken time in the Swiss Guard who relocated to Dallas Texas is finding long term friends. ISG is great for that. I consider some wingmen like JimmyBoy a real friend, but he leaves in a month. Palcon and Dandy were great patrol buddies, but they headed out. I am like a corporal on permanent station in a combat zone with a never ending bunch of Generals and Senators coming in to do sex tours. But, there is a group of people I naturally would get along with, in addition to the faculty where I teach, who are great.
That group is roughnecks!
I am talking oil workers.
Texas Gold.
Black Gold.
Texas Tea.
Halliburton here I come. Halliburton has a big ass sign in 30 foot tall letters across from Rodoviaria. There is also an office downtown. I am going there and finding buddies to party with, invite to 4 x 4, and 116, and Paris, and Perola Negra, and VM.
The beauty of Rio is that it is a big ass port city, like Salvador, or Porto Allegre, or Hamburg, or Amsterdam, or San Francisco or San Diego, or Sydney, or Kuwait City, or J Burg. That means that there is every flavor and every level from Spartan (the oil workers, the soccer players like Vasco who go to VM to get their girls for gang bang parties) to Athenian (the zona sul intellecutals, musicians, artists, and diplomats / corporate officers, and their effete pampered kids, the BNDES bankers).
Halliburton and Petrobras, and Electrobras, etc.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2586340]Villa mimosa is the bottom of the barrel. If you are broke or cheap, go there, otherwise get a real hottie at a terma or the beach. I can't believe people spend all that money and time to go to Brazil and then want to cheapen out like that.[/QUOTE]Looks like a drive by video of VM at night. Street names are given not much to see overall but something to see if you never been before. [URL]https://youtu.be/TF0coQ2-yT8[/URL].
Too bad they didn't do a daytime video drive through. Looks like all videos [URL=https://www.youtube.com/c/CaminhosPorA%C3%AD/videos]CaminhosPorA[/URL] are drive around videos.
Old News of VM.
[URL]https://youtu.be/PxRJ2ZN7H9I[/URL]
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2586448]Hi gents,
Any good soul to share recent updates regarding going back to EU with connection in Madrid.
So confusing and annoying all this nonsence regarding restrictions.[/QUOTE]I've been trying to find out too as I don't want to go into quarantine in the UK at a cost of 2 k Euros.
I thought about staying in Portugal for 14 days but they seem to say you will need to quarantine but I cannot see any details about how this works.
I don't know if this link helps for spain.
[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/sanidadgob[/URL]
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Combo;2586741]I've only gone to VM once years ago, but based on that small sample size, I think there are some hot-looking women there. But I didn't end up doing any of them because the conditions are pretty disgusting, like you don't want to touch anything. If I ever went again, I'd bring a sheet or some bed covering with me. I agree that short-time visitors are better served with the termas, beach, etc.[/QUOTE]I'm not interested in going on a vacation somewhere just to fuck in filth worrying about whether or not there's cum on the railing I'm about to grip LOL!
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2586803]I've been trying to find out too as I don't want to go into quarantine in the UK at a cost of 2 k Euros.
I thought about staying in Portugal for 14 days but they seem to say you will need to quarantine but I cannot see any details about how this works.
I don't know if this link helps for spain.
[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/sanidadgob[/URL]
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Ok. One more time [URL]https://www.traveldoc.aero/[/URL]. This is the site many airlines direct you. Health, customs and visa information.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2586340]Villa mimosa is the bottom of the barrel. If you are broke or cheap, go there, otherwise get a real hottie at a terma or the beach. I can't believe people spend all that money and time to go to Brazil and then want to cheapen out like that.[/QUOTE]I've never been to VM. Nevertheless, from what I've read I could well understand someone from the US visiting there. Actually I'd rather be hobbying in VM now than where I am.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2586690]
To each their own. Enjoy what you like and whatever befits you, your life, personality and your style of play.
Don't apologize for paying a frugal modicum amount, or paying a modicum over payment amount. Neither is wrong or right. If you can find what you want, where you want it, then it's all good. Just sit-back, relax and enjoy. One size does not fit all.
Just know that, they like what they like and that's should be enough.
While you see "trash", someone else sees "treasure".[/QUOTE]Exactamente!
[QUOTE=The Cane;2586831]I'm not interested in going on a vacation somewhere just to fuck in filth worrying about whether or not there's cum on the railing I'm about to grip LOL! [/QUOTE]Kkkkk! So true and a very good and valid observation. Nor should you go anywhere not to your liking to fuck.
But I think you're being a little modest and newbies show also know all about the smell of piss, sex and ass, followed by copious amounts of spit, sweat and alcohol, perhaps the odd sighting of vomit, trash/litter everywhere, broken glass everywhere, stray cats and dogs, drunk/loud Brazilians, loud pop/Hip-Hop/Rap, Brazilian funk and Pedagogy music blaring at uncharted decibels, naked/half-naked women prancing about, mafia and gang-bangers going at one another and toting AK-47's machine guns (. Okay I'm kidding about the AK-47's), but you get the picture. (I'll stop there, before I go off sounding like one of those aforementioned ISG poets. ...kkkk).
So for newbies and "the curious" alike, it should noted, that a visit to VM, isn't really for the faint of heart, or the scream-ish...etc, etc and by all accounts, ...definitely [B]isn't rated "E" for EVERYONE![/B]
VM still a good place to visit, at lease once, if your naturally curious that way. Just know what to expect. And remember, it's OK, if VM is not for you!
But with all that said, VM and all its squalor, [B]is still a magical and special place for some. [/B]
Looks good.
Thanks.
The best girls come from nova Iguacu.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2586676]You guys who want to meet termas girls in their natural element should take a trip.
[URL]https://www.shoppingnovaiguacu.com.br/[/URL]
If you know a few termas girls well enough, you can go with them at the end of their shifts and spend the night there and all the next day.
Best part is you don't have to worry about stepping in another guy's spunk or worse. For those who claim to speak Portuguese well there is nothing like it.
Fish in a barrel. Just got a woody. Thinking about my VM experience does just the opposite.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2586792]Rio George Strait fans. Oil Workers, Halliburton.
One of the long term challenges of living in Rio for a retired Swiss naval intelligence officer with broken time in the Swiss Guard who relocated to Dallas Texas is finding long term friends. ISG is great for that. I consider some wingmen like JimmyBoy a real friend, but he leaves in a month. Palcon and Dandy were great patrol buddies, but they headed out. I am like a corporal on permanent station in a combat zone with a never ending bunch of Generals and Senators coming in to do sex tours. [/QUOTE]Soon as I saw these words "corporal on permanent station in a combat zone" I knew.
Find older British series Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes if you haven't seen. British because there is an American LoM remake, which is easier to find, but skip it. Find the original. Something tells me you'll really enjoy them, corporal.
But you must watch both. Trust me.
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2586803]I've been trying to find out too as I don't want to go into quarantine in the UK at a cost of 2 k Euros.
I thought about staying in Portugal for 14 days but they seem to say you will need to quarantine but I cannot see any details about how this works.
I don't know if this link helps for spain.
[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/sanidadgob[/URL]
Good luck.[/QUOTE]I believe both Spain and Portugal have opened for vaccinated people.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2587056]Soon as I saw these words "corporal on permanent station in a combat zone" I knew.
Find older British series Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes if you haven't seen. British because there is an American LoM remake, which is easier to find, but skip it. Find the original. Something tells me you'll really enjoy them, corporal.
But you must watch both. Trust me.
I believe both Spain and Portugal have opened for vaccinated people.[/QUOTE]Spain opened for all (vaccinated or not), no test required, for various countries, including the USA.
Look, if you really want to see it tell the taxi to give you a tour. Bottom line is the place is filthy. Who wants to have sex there in those filthy rooms when you can go to a terma with great showers, a lounge, decent rooms all the way up to high end rooms. I have mongered in all Latin American countries and Brazilian term are the best places I have ever been. Nothing compares to it. Hotel del Rey Colombian massage parlors Hong Kong. Termas are the best. You can get a girls number for later.
No hottie I ever found in a terma would ever work villa mimosa for 70 reals. I'm sure you can find the diamond in the ruff but you will have to sort through a lot of ruff and risk your life. Some of the guys that go there will kill you for 20 bucks post coronavirus and no one will care. Just another gringo. Their economy has been devastated.
Is terma 81 a new terma. It popped up on a article of best brothels I read. I don't remember it back in the day. Also is terma Cancun, Terma airport, and terma Florida open again.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2587059]Spain opened for all (vaccinated or not), no test required, for various countries, including the USA.[/QUOTE]Wow, had to verify that, but you're right, all you need to do is fill the form. Quite dumb for Spain, IMHO, but good for travelers.
Thanks to general palcon I have batteries on the balcony where I am fucking Monique baré until 13 h.
VM is where you can always find baré 18 yo pussy for 14 us dollars.
I mean If that is your thing.
You're not risking your life if you don't take pictures wear Vasco and STFU.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2587056]Soon as I saw these words "corporal on permanent station in a combat zone" I knew.
Find older British series Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes if you haven't seen. British because there is an American LoM remake, which is easier to find, but skip it. Find the original. Something tells me you'll really enjoy them, corporal.
But you must watch both. Trust me.
I believe both Spain and Portugal have opened for vaccinated people.[/QUOTE]
Went to Spain and Portugal in June.
Spain (Madrid) was mostly business as usual with most things open, most closing times a little earlier (around 1). Made the mistake of going to Lisbon. Had to get a test, which was a pain. Then most things in lisbon were closed and closing times of what was open were like 10. Portugal is taking covid more seriously. Wish I had stuck to Spain. My 2 c.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2587059]Spain opened for all (vaccinated or not), no test required, for various countries, including the USA.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://coronavirus.rio/noticias/prefeitura-anuncia-plano-de-retomada-e-lanca-o-calendario-de-eventos-rio-de-novo/[/URL]
September 2nd. Boates to open at 50% capacity and October 17th. At 100%. So, normalization has been announced by the municipality with the 3rd phase on November 15,2021.
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September 2nd. Boates to open at 50% capacity and October 17th.[/QUOTE]If the Boates are closed how are clubs like Casablanca open?
Does anyone have further insights on that? I will fly in on August 18 and have more than 5 weeks in Rio then. After reading the past months here I've chosen to follow Senhor Vagabundos recommendations and find an accommodation in Barra. The Sheraton has some nice and for my understanding reasonably priced apartments on Airbnb. And it's as far as I can judge that perfectly located directly on the beach.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2587072]Look, if you really want to see it tell the taxi to give you a tour. Bottom line is the place is filthy. Who wants to have sex there in those filthy rooms when you can go to a terma with great showers, a lounge, decent rooms all the way up to high end rooms. I have mongered in all Latin American countries and Brazilian term are the best places I have ever been. Nothing compares to it. Hotel del Rey Colombian massage parlors Hong Kong. Termas are the best. You can get a girls number for later.
No hottie I ever found in a terma would ever work villa mimosa for 70 reals. I'm sure you can find the diamond in the ruff but you will have to sort through a lot of ruff and risk your life. Some of the guys that go there will kill you for 20 bucks post coronavirus and no one will care. Just another gringo. Their economy has been devastated.[/QUOTE]Now, I have no love for VM, but I don't believe it to be that dangerous. You're unlikely to be killed or even bothered with unless you piss off some wrong dudes.
[QUOTE=Chayachecker;2587432]Does anyone have further insights on that? I will fly in on August 18 and have more than 5 weeks in Rio then. After reading the past months here I've chosen to follow Senhor Vagabundos recommendations and find an accommodation in Barra. The Sheraton has some nice and for my understanding reasonably priced apartments on Airbnb. And it's as far as I can judge that perfectly located directly on the beach.[/QUOTE]There used to be a Sheraton in Barra, but they rebranded (as Wyndham, I think) a long time ago. From what I remember there is only one Sheraton in Rio, and it's in Leblon. I stayed there during the World Cup, and loved the views and the grounds, but it wasn't guest-friendly or reasonably-priced.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2587491]There used to be a Sheraton in Barra, but they rebranded (as Wyndham, I think) a long time ago. From what I remember there is only one Sheraton in Rio, and it's in Leblon. I stayed there during the World Cup, and loved the views and the grounds, but it wasn't guest-friendly or reasonably-priced.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right, I've checked it and its now called the Wyndham Barra.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2587491]There used to be a Sheraton in Barra, but they rebranded (as Wyndham, I think) a long time ago. From what I remember there is only one Sheraton in Rio, and it's in Leblon. I stayed there during the World Cup, and loved the views and the grounds, but it wasn't guest-friendly or reasonably-priced.[/QUOTE]Xpartan,
Logistically isn't the Sheraton located on Praia do Vidigal? I understand that from the Sheraton you cannot walk the beach to get to Praia do Leblon. I also heard Praia do Vidigal is a littered and dirty beach, so I crossed the Sheraton off my list of possible hotels a long time ago. Add to that huge negative, your experience that the hotel is not girly friendly, and all I can say is fuhgeddaboudit the Sheraton. I would much rather stay at some hotel on Praia do Leblon proper, on Ipanema or on Barra even though Barra is a good 20 to 30 minutes ride to most of the fun Termas.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2587491]There used to be a Sheraton in Barra, but they rebranded (as Wyndham, I think) a long time ago. From what I remember there is only one Sheraton in Rio, and it's in Leblon. I stayed there during the World Cup, and loved the views and the grounds, but it wasn't guest-friendly or reasonably-priced.[/QUOTE]Actually it is in Vidigal close to Leblon.
Villa Mimosa is a dirty, filthy shithole, filled with mostly fat, ugly women who fuck, in tiny rooms whose bed sheets may or may not get changed daily, guys who just want to empty their balls and can't afford more upscale evening locations. However, I still visit it on occasion to see what's happening and maybe find the proverbial gem in the pile of refuse, as I have on a couple of occasions in the years before the pandemic.
I went on a Tuesday two weeks ago at night and it was dead. Went this last Friday evening to see if it was any better. It was a lot more packed with guys and also some more girls, with a handful actually being fuckable, 3-4 girls in the horseshoe and 2 girls at #46 across the street. Saw this small, fit brunette in short shorts and a blue sweat shirt lifted up to show off her beautiful (silicone) tits. She had black curly hair down past her shoulders, pretty face, braces on her teeth, and a nice, firm ass in front of the bar across from #12 bar. She saw me staring at her and came over to chat and let me feel up her ass, confirming it was really firm. She seemed very sweet. Asked her why she worked in VM and not some club, since she certainly could work there, and she said she preferred VM.
Told her that I wasn't going to be able to session because I had forgotten to bring a bed sheet, since they never change them after each customer. She said that we could go to #12 because they change the sheets. Asked how much: 70 real for 30, and 130 for 60. Asked if she kissed, did BBBJ, etc. She said yes, so remembering my previous good hour sessions in VM, went for the hour.
We walked into #12 and I gave the girl 200. She kept 100 and gave 100 to the bar owner, who gave me 70 change. We went to the room but there were no sheets. She said she would go get them. I got undressed and she came back with a sheet that she said was fresh (but who knows). Started my music program but she didn't want me to dry hump her standing up: she said she needed a massage on her shoulders. I massaged her back, shoulders, legs, ass but she wouldn't let me touch her pussy or asshole. After a while, I had her turn over and tried to kiss her but she refused. I tried to kiss her tits but she said no to touching, kissing, or licking her tits. Thought about cancelling the session and complaining to the bar owner where she worked, but since I never gave the owner the money, figured the likely response would be you never gave me any money, work it out with her, which would be pointless.
My dick was now limp from all this refusal so asked her to blow me. She went for my condom. I asked her why, since she said she would do it bareback. She said it was for after but then put it on my limp dick and started sucking. Managing to get it half erect, we went to doggy, and somehow I was able to get it in her pussy (must be pretty loose for that to happen). I fucked her for a while with a semi-erection until it died, then more CBJ till it was half erect again, more doggy until it died again. I told her to use her hand but I was so disgusted with the session that my dick didn't respond at all so after a few minutes she said time was over and I didn't argue over the remaining 15 minutes since I wanted it to end also. As she left, I asked her for her name, telling her I had forgotten it. She said it was Lavinia, but it might not be true because she may have felt I wanted her name to report the bad session.
At some point in the session I asked her how long she had been in the business. She said 8 years, starting when she was 18, which surprised me, since she didn't look 26. Had I asked this before I said yes, I would have not gone with her since 8 years in VM turns you into a hardened pro.
Conclusions: bring your own bed sheet; ask her how long she has been in the business, and specifically how long at VM; assume whatever the girl tells she will do you is a lie; only go with her if you think you can still get hard and fuck her when she doesn't do what she said she would do; always start with the minimum amount of time, since you can always extend the time if the session is good but you ain't getting a refund if you want to shorten the session; always pay the owner of the bar she works at the session fee; and, avoid the girl I sessioned with.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2587086]Is terma 81 a new terma. It popped up on a article of best brothels I read. I don't remember it back in the day. Also is terma Cancun, Terma airport, and terma Florida open again.[/QUOTE]That must be a very old article. Terma 81 closed almost 2 years ago. Airport club closed years ago, then re-opened for a while, then closed for good sometime in 2017. Florida is now a gay men's club. Cancun is open but now called Club New York.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2587874]That must be a very old article. Terma 81 closed almost 2 years ago. Airport club closed years ago, then re-opened for a while, then closed for good sometime in 2017. Florida is now a gay men's club. Cancun is open but now called Club New York.[/QUOTE]So what are we down too now: Centaurus, 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, solarium, terma 65, Club New York. Did I miss any? I want to go in December.
At minimum, if you're real tight on money and you have to go there, try and find this diamond in the ruff, and tell her you don't like sex in the rooms and get her number. Offer her 50% more to come to your hotel or double. It's so cheap it doesn't even matter. They should say yes. You might get a cheap traveling partner because I imagine those girls rather be anywhere than that place. But having sex on those dirty sheets after a hundred mongers were there before you is really rolling the dice catching god knows what.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2587639]Xpartan,
Logistically isn't the Sheraton located on Praia do Vidigal? I understand that from the Sheraton you cannot walk the beach to get to Praia do Leblon. I also heard Praia do Vidigal is a littered and dirty beach, so I crossed the Sheraton off my list of possible hotels a long time ago. Add to that huge negative, your experience that the hotel is not girly friendly, and all I can say is fuhgeddaboudit the Sheraton. I would much rather stay at some hotel on Praia do Leblon proper, on Ipanema or on Barra even though Barra is a good 20 to 30 minutes ride to most of the fun Termas.[/QUOTE]Across from Vidigal. I stayed there in 2014 and liked the small beach (it's a protected beach, and it was clean and uncrowded at least back then). The views of the ocean and the favela were breathtaking especially from the lounge, that's what I liked the most. But I agree that location-wise it's not convenient.
1. To fuck at VM, you need to dress as lightly as possible. The footwear that works best IMHO is the advanced hiking sandal, which one can shower in, and wear while fucking.
[URL]https://www.decathlon.com/collections/mens-sandals/products/mens-nature-hiking-sandals-nh110?[/URL]
2. Bedsheet? Realistically, the micro fiber thin blanket is universally sold in Rio, and is used as a bedsheet in prives.
3. Again, the hotel Canario is 100 meters away, around the block from Mosaico.
4. Motel Malaga is 400 meters away.
5. Get the number, and get her to your hotel.
6. Casa 52 is the best observation post, as you can see the whole street, girls coming and going.
7 Mosaico, best after midnight, also is a good OP, as it has a balcony.
I don't go to VM often, maybe once a month, when some new contacts want to see it on a Sunday when no other options are available. But it is the de facto CPF (Cost Per Fuck) measure, and it is the same CPF as the prives and trash clubs like 116, IE 70 for a half hour.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2587839]Villa Mimosa is a dirty, filthy shithole, filled with mostly fat, ugly women who fuck, in tiny rooms whose bed sheets may or may not get changed daily, guys who just want to empty their balls and can't afford more upscale evening locations. However, I still visit it on occasion to see what's happening and maybe find the proverbial gem in the pile of refuse, as I have on a couple of occasions in the years before the pandemic.
I went on a Tuesday two weeks ago at night and it was dead. Went this last Friday evening to see if it was any better. It was a lot more packed with guys and also some more girls, with a handful actually being fuckable, 3-4 girls in the horseshoe and 2 girls at #46 across the street. Saw this small, fit brunette in short shorts and a blue sweat shirt lifted up to show off her beautiful (silicone) tits. She had black curly hair down past her shoulders, pretty face, braces on her teeth, and a nice, firm ass in front of the bar across from #12 bar. She saw me staring at her and came over to chat and let me feel up her ass, confirming it was really firm. She seemed very sweet. Asked her why she worked in VM and not some club, since she certainly could work there, and she said she preferred VM...[/QUOTE]
First of all I like to thank everyone who share information and opinions on this forum. It really is very useful for a first time visitor, even when there are conflicting views on a subject.
I am now preparing by downloading Rio maps to my phone and trying to learn at least some Portuguese phrases and numbers of course. Also setting up Uber and Whatsapp accounts. As soon as I arrive I will get a local sim-card since the roaming rates from my cell phone provider are silly (2 euros per minute).
From the comments on this forum any trip to Vila Mimosa would be for sightseeing only.
My planned daily budget is 1500 real and my max budget is around 3 k per day (flight and hotel already paid for). Reading the forum that seems to be enough.
I arrive on Friday night and will stay for just over two weeks. If anyone want to join up for some bar hopping and / or Terma visits that would be great. Should Vagabundo still be arranging outings I would very much appreciate if I would be allowed to participate.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2587881]So what are we down too now: Centaurus, 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, solarium, terma 65, Club New York. Did I miss any? I want to go in December.[/QUOTE]502, MV 30, T 31, but they're all dead, with very few girls.
From about Friday, I think, I've noticed Google says Monte Carlos Termas "temporarily closed." Is that true? Can anyone confirm?
Boots on the ground soon, renting a baller place in Copa.
I'll of course visit the termas and get numbers, etc but I really like just going out at about 11, getting some drinks, and picking up. Seems that scene is hit or miss these days.
Mabs and Dolce Vita are my only two real decent options, right? I don't really want to go to Centro too much.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2588127]502, MV 30, T 31, but they're all dead, with very few girls.[/QUOTE]What month should I go to Rio. I don't want to go to Rio unless all the termas are in full swing. Are they dead because girls are scared of catching the virus in those small spaces, or is the government mandating reduced capacity.
Further:
- bombeiro Bermuda shorts.
- rashguard long sleeve swim shirt, preferably in red (color of the lifeguards).
- bombeiro / guarda the vida ball cap (color of the lifeguard at the pool, like the lowest ranking civil servant, but still on the side of the people who carry guns legally).
The other brand you, the home viewer, can and should carry is the six sided blue universal symbol of the life saver, which is valid in Rio.
So, you go in and pick your girl, pay no more than 75 r for the half, after your interview, and you put on felipe ret, the whole album on your phone, and you go for it. There are always 18 year old ana foxxx, kira noir, gina Valentina clones there. There are always the same at mosaico.
OK, if you are a senhor athens and you only fuck seka platinum blondes in tier 1 termas who agree to your proctological pictures, it's not for you. If you like 18 year old porn star quality new talent, VM is a good spot. Again, Elisa Sanches is well known among the girls in VM, they pick Elisa Sanches porn on the overnights, and they say, "Elisa sanches comes to VM, she come to Mosaico". Vagabundo has seen her and her peers there, and elisa sanches is not even near the top of the pack in terms of the morena clara new talent who is regularly at VM. The best members of this board who shall go unnamed like VM for that reason.
Go in pairs, during the day, figure out where 52 is, walk around get comfortable, be confident you and your battle buddy can get a quick uber, or even call 190 (police), 192 (ambulance), 193 (fireman). And then stop your whining and gitter done.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2588045]1. To fuck at VM, you need to dress as lightly as possible. The footwear that works best IMHO is the advanced hiking sandal, which one can shower in, and wear while fucking.
[URL]https://www.decathlon.com/collections/mens-sandals/products/mens-nature-hiking-sandals-nh110?[/URL]
2. Bedsheet? Realistically, the micro fiber thin blanket is universally sold in Rio, and is used as a bedsheet in prives.
3. Again, the hotel Canario is 100 meters away, around the block from Mosaico.
4. Motel Malaga is 400 meters away.
5. Get the number, and get her to your hotel..[/QUOTE]
Guys,
What's the best place to get my Canadian dollars exchanged without getting a horrible rate. I heard airports are the worst places since they always charge a hefty fee.
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2588186]Guys,
What's the best place to get my Canadian dollars exchanged without getting a horrible rate. I heard airports are the worst places since they always charge a hefty fee.[/QUOTE]I pretty much use Best Exchange or Universo Cambio e Turismo (next door to Best Ex.), when in Copa. They take dollars (US or CDN), Euros, Pounds and most major currencies. Even the Philippine Peso/Thai Baht, at one time ago, (although with these currencies it wasn't worth it).
Best Exchange, Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 371, Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro (right in the middle of Copa, more or less)
If you establish a rapport, with Bernardo (at Best) or one of the other service people and frequently exchange large amounts, you may even get slightly better rates.
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2588186]Guys,
What's the best place to get my Canadian dollars exchanged without getting a horrible rate. I heard airports are the worst places since they always charge a hefty fee.[/QUOTE]BTW, when in Centro, I would use the Zenith Exchange and Tourism house a just across the street and few doors down from the Sao Bento Hotel (and Center Hotel) on Rio Branco.
Zenith Exchange and Tourism, Avenida 25 - Av. Rio Branco, 25, Centro, Rio de Janeiro, [URL]https://www.zenithcambio.com.br[/URL].
About 1 or 2 blocks away, Av. Rio Branco intersects with Av. Pres. Vargas and there are several Exchanges on the corner, each giving fair to comparable rates. (Note: Windsor Guanabara Hotel is located at the same intersection for a bearing reference).
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2588164]OK, if you are a senhor athens and you only fuck seka platinum blondes in tier 1 termas who agree to your proctological pictures, it's not for you. If you like 18 year old porn star quality new talent, VM is a good spot. Again, Elisa Sanches is well known among the girls in VM, they pick Elisa Sanches porn on the overnights, and they say, "Elisa sanches comes to VM, she come to Mosaico". Vagabundo has seen her and her peers there, and elisa sanches is not even near the top of the pack in terms of the morena clara new talent who is regularly at VM. The best members of this board who shall go unnamed like VM for that reason.[/QUOTE]If I want to fuck Elisa Sanches in the ass, then I will pay her to come to me in my clean hotel room (I did too) rather than, in the words of JimmyBoy99, go to that "dirty, filthy shithole, filled with mostly fat, ugly women who fuck in tiny rooms whose bed sheets may or may not get changed daily". The members of this board and guys from everywhere who don't want to fuck in squalor avoid Vila Mimosa like the plague in favor of other locales that are both sanitary and populated with a hotter selection of tutes.
Why not just get reais from the ATM?
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2588186]Guys,
What's the best place to get my Canadian dollars exchanged without getting a horrible rate. I heard airports are the worst places since they always charge a hefty fee.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2588186]Guys,
What's the best place to get my Canadian dollars exchanged without getting a horrible rate. I heard airports are the worst places since they always charge a hefty fee.[/QUOTE]I always use San Diego Cambio why Tourismo.
San Diego Exchange and Tourism.
+55 21 3442-8116.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/5HTvcxQNP2Cnaq8h9[/URL]
They have always given a good rate.
Well, today, Vagabundo fucked a actual Brazilian girl, in centro, at a prive, and it was great. 120 r for an hour, and 40+ minutes of actual fucking. He is a happily nut busted monger.
Vagabundo has in common with certain Senhor Athens mongers that we have both fucked Elisa Sanches. Proof thereof is herewith attached as exhibits A. The. Note, fellow members of the ass book intel community:
The sheets say Motel Malaga.
OK, let's put that on the CBS joke chalkboard for hunting bunda:
Here is hotel Malaga.
[URL]https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/s/jWpCA[/URL]
Here is Mosaico nightclub.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/Bqt69TFfYqTAqrsW7[/URL]
You, dear reader, can do the work to determine how far from Motel Malaga Mosaico is. It's less than 400 meters as the crow flies, maybe a little more as you walk. You should walk it during the day if you make Malaga your patrol base. Long time mongers in Rio will recall the legendary escort show and its sister agency, where the girls would walk to Malaga in Zona Norte (just barely), and to Barao do Flamengo in Zona Sul for the other agency. Go back to 2013 and before on this and search for Sperto's posts. Those posts were my guide, and it is why I post now, to pay it forward. I've had Elisa in Malaga, and in zona sul airbnb's and I will tell you a girl fucks better and respects and likes you more if you bang her in a love motel in zona norte. When you are in Copa on Ave Nossa Senhora, take the 457 bus to Norte Shopping and back. It will cost you 8 reais total. Get off at norte shopping, walk around, for example, to Motel Cartago. Get the number of the girl in 4 x4, or Monte Carlo, or Solarium, and if she lives in Zona Norte, tell her you will meet her at Norte Shopping, and suggest you fuck her at Cartago Motel. Elisa Sanches also is a frequent guest at Boate Black and White in Bonsuccesso, which is worth a trip, again, with an experience monger. The 457 bus also goes by VM. That hot as fuck morena clara in Monte Carlo or the other tier 1 termas is from Norte Shopping -- she gets to the tier 1 termas on some days in the 457 bus. Do you love fucking her? Do you love this creature, in some manner, whether eros, phillia, or agape? Then see the world through her eyes, even if for 4 hours out of your day, one day, when you are staying in a hotel on Av Atlantico. Take the 457 bus. Grow some balls, and put on a vasco shirt, and see the world through her eyes.
Here is the guide for motels for Brazil.
[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/[/URL]
So I made my first trip back to Rio about 2 months ago, but forgot to post anything. This time I am flying solo and have much more free time. I landed yesterday and after flying all night, I slept most of the day away. Woke up and had dinner then hit Solarium. I was there on my last visit 2 months ago but for a Monday, wow the talent was top notch. There was about 30 girls of all shapes and sizes. Lots of quality bunda. More smaller petite girls then 4 X4. I opted for a little spinner that had only been working there for about a week. Could have fooled me. She was a champ in the room. BBBJ, sex with condom then more BBBJ and CIM. I wish I remembered her club name, but I have her Instagram, phone number, and real name. She's off tomorrow so definitely bringing her over to the casa.
Tonight I hit 4 X4 for the first time. I usually don't repeat very often but last trip I met Jessica. She's a stunning blonde with a perfect bunda and great fake tits. My only gripe was last trip when she came back to the house and stayed over I hadn't realized she didn't shave her legs. I know that's normal for Brazil, but still not a fan. I ended up in the Sultans suite with her tonight and happy to say she shaved them. My chemistry with this girl is phenomenal. She had 3 orgasms to my 1 which is pretty standard these days. I'm happy with 1 in 90 minutes. BBBJ, sex no condom, pretty much anything goes. I'm yet to find a girl on the last 2 trips that doesn't give the GFE. I love this place. It's so hard to go home and deal with American girls after being here. They all suck. LOL. Torn between calling it an early night or hitting Solarium again. Also got a referral from my regular driver of a girl that looks like a 12 on a 10 scale. I may need a full day and night just for her if she's anything like the photos. 🤣129315;.
Forgot to post this. The best move in Rio these days is bringing new $100 bills to many of the exchange places and trading then for Reals. With new $100's they will give you 5. 3 reals to the dollar. Yesterday I took out $300 US and only got 1500 reals. That's a 90 real difference or about 6% you're losing. Then tonight I paid by CC at 4 X4 and they only give 5 to 1 plus CC fees so I lost about 9%. That being said, the move is to bring new 100's and not use ATMs or credit cards. Hope this helps.
Thank you guys for giving me a few addresses for the best exchange vendors. Truly much appreciated.
[QUOTE=Lancer520;2588337]... With new $100's they will give you 5. 3 reals to the dollar...That being said, the move is to bring new 100's and not use ATMs or credit cards. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
The midmarket rate has been below 5.2 for the last week. Generally, I believe the "smart move" is (with your Schwab or other card that refunds foreign transaction fees) to use the ATM but refuse the quoted lower bank rate and accept the midmarket rate.
[QUOTE=Lancer520;2588337]Forgot to post this. The best move in Rio these days is bringing new $100 bills to many of the exchange places and trading then for Reals. With new $100's they will give you 5. 3 reals to the dollar. Yesterday I took out $300 US and only got 1500 reals. That's a 90 real difference or about 6% you're losing. Then tonight I paid by CC at 4 X4 and they only give 5 to 1 plus CC fees so I lost about 9%. That being said, the move is to bring new 100's and not use ATMs or credit cards. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Excellent strategy thank you.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2588045]1. To fuck at VM, you need to dress as lightly as possible. The footwear that works best IMHO is the advanced hiking sandal, which one can shower in, and wear while fucking.
[URL]https://www.decathlon.com/collections/mens-sandals/products/mens-nature-hiking-sandals-nh110?[/URL]
2. Bedsheet? Realistically, the micro fiber thin blanket is universally sold in Rio, and is used as a bedsheet in prives.
3. Again, the hotel Canario is 100 meters away, around the block from Mosaico.
4. Motel Malaga is 400 meters away.
5. Get the number, and get her to your hotel.
6. Casa 52 is the best observation post, as you can see the whole street, girls coming and going.
7 Mosaico, best after midnight, also is a good OP, as it has a balcony.
I don't go to VM often, maybe once a month, when some new contacts want to see it on a Sunday when no other options are available. But it is the de facto CPF (Cost Per Fuck) measure, and it is the same CPF as the prives and trash clubs like 116, IE 70 for a half hour.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. Especially the lightweight hiking sandals link.
[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2588186]Guys,
What's the best place to get my Canadian dollars exchanged without getting a horrible rate. I heard airports are the worst places since they always charge a hefty fee.[/QUOTE]I have found that using the ATMs at the banks in Copacabana tend to give an excellent exchange rate even if you pay a significant fee. Less hassle for the most part and you come out ahead.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2588286]Why not just get reais from the ATM?[/QUOTE]What Smokers Rule said.
[QUOTE=Lancer520;2588329]So I made my first trip back to Rio about 2 months ago, but forgot to post anything. This time I am flying solo and have much more free time. I landed yesterday and after flying all night, I slept most of the day away. Woke up and had dinner then hit Solarium. I was there on my last visit 2 months ago but for a Monday, wow the talent was top notch. There was about 30 girls of all shapes and sizes. Lots of quality bunda. More smaller petite girls then 4 X4. I opted for a little spinner that had only been working there for about a week. Could have fooled me. She was a champ in the room. BBBJ, sex with condom then more BBBJ and CIM. I wish I remembered her club name, but I have her Instagram, phone number, and real name. She's off tomorrow so definitely bringing her over to the casa.
Tonight I hit 4 X4 for the first time. I usually don't repeat very often but last trip I met Jessica. She's a stunning blonde with a perfect bunda and great fake tits. My only gripe was last trip when she came back to the house and stayed over I hadn't realized she didn't shave her legs. I know that's normal for Brazil, but still not a fan. I ended up in the Sultans suite with her tonight and happy to say she shaved them. My chemistry with this girl is phenomenal. She had 3 orgasms to my 1 which is pretty standard these days. I'm happy with 1 in 90 minutes. BBBJ, sex no condom, pretty much anything goes. I'm yet to find a girl on the last 2 trips that doesn't give the GFE. I love this place. It's so hard to go home and deal with American girls after being here. They all suck. LOL. Torn between calling it an early night or hitting Solarium again. Also got a referral from my regular driver of a girl that looks like a 12 on a 10 scale. I may need a full day and night just for her if she's anything like the photos..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I can't wait to be there, I'll be on the ground in about 3 weeks, planning on hitting Solarium on Monday too, your report gives me hope. You don't use Uber to move around? How did you find your driver?
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2588152]What month should I go to Rio. I don't want to go to Rio unless all the termas are in full swing. Are they dead because girls are scared of catching the virus in those small spaces, or is the government mandating reduced capacity.[/QUOTE]I have no idea when, or if, it will get better. The government is not mandating reduced capacity. All the termas are fully open, just with reduced girls compared to the past, maybe due to covid. There should be enough girls in total to satisfy you even now, especially if you also do the prives in the afternoon.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2587426]If the Boates are closed how are clubs like Casablanca open?[/QUOTE]I don't understand this either.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2588152]What month should I go to Rio. I don't want to go to Rio unless all the termas are in full swing. Are they dead because girls are scared of catching the virus in those small spaces, or is the government mandating reduced capacity.[/QUOTE]They are gradually opening up [URL]https://coronavirus.rio/noticias/prefeitura-anuncia-plano-de-retomada-e-lanca-o-calendario-de-eventos-rio-de-novo/[/URL] 17th of October boates and such can have fully vaccinated clients up to 100% of their capacity. From 15th of November masks are required only in the public transportation and hospitals etc.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2588152]What month [b]should I go to Rio[/b]. I don't want to go to Rio unless all the termas are in full swing. Are they dead because girls are scared of catching the virus in those small spaces, or is the government mandating reduced capacity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nordico;2588849]They are gradually opening up [URL]https://coronavirus.rio/noticias/prefeitura-anuncia-plano-de-retomada-e-lanca-o-calendario-de-eventos-rio-de-novo/[/URL] 17th of October boates and such can have fully vaccinated clients up to 100% of their capacity. From 15th of November masks are required only in the public transportation and hospitals etc.[/QUOTE]Sure full vaccinated Yea.
I would plan for November (start of summertime thru March) onward just monitor all sources of COVID news related to Rio and Brazil in general. Also have trip cancellation insurance. Brazil is still behind in COVID vaccinations but is trying to get up to speed in getting population vaccinated. The main thing November is start of summer and many events including New Years and Carnival are main tourist times. Rio / Brazil in general can't afford to let another tourist season go by, they have to start getting tourist dollars and businesses back on track and economy going. So with only months away I do think things will really start to get better. If not then 1st quarter 22 should also be probably the best time to go.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2588857]Sure full vaccinated Yea.
I would plan for November (start of summertime thru March) onward just monitor all sources of COVID news related to Rio and Brazil in general. Also have trip cancellation insurance. Brazil is still behind in COVID vaccinations but is trying to get up to speed in getting population vaccinated. The main thing November is start of summer and many events including New Years and Carnival are main tourist times. Rio / Brazil in general can't afford to let another tourist season go by, they have to start getting tourist dollars and businesses back on track and economy going. So with only months away I do think things will really start to get better. If not then 1st quarter 22 should also be probably the best time to go.[/QUOTE]Good news is that 94% of the Brazilians are planning to get the vaccine. Bad news is that they are also using the Sinovac, which is not very good, but I suppose better than nothing. The next two months (August-September) Brazil will receive 132 million vaccines, most of them being AZ and Pfizer.
Landed GIG at 10 am after all my flights were delayed the day before and went straight to work approx 2 hrs away from Rio. I knew it was going to be a long day so I ate clean and drank plenty of water. Came back to Rio approx 6 pm, checked into the hotel, showered and off to 4 x4 I went.
4 x4 was hopping when I got there. Approx 35-40 girls when I walked in. All types. And all fuckable which makes a huge difference. There was something for everyone. Met up with Professor Vagabundo and Sir Johnny Boy which was a pleasure to run into someone you can link up with.
Talked to a few girls and the girl that I had a great time with last time comes downstairs and we played around a bit. She had finished her schedule and we were getting ready to leave to grab a bite to eat and back to the hotel, but that didn't work out as she had to get home to her babysitter. Got her number for the next time I am in rio and went back upstairs.
By this time it was around 1030 pm and I was getting tired. Really tired but I need to get my nut out so I was like. Let's get it done. The amount of people and girls also crashed at that time. It suddenly became empty as guys had to get home and girls finished their shifts and were going home. So, I found a good looking paulista standing around and talked to her for a while. No anal unfortunately, but she was available and my type and the other girls were with guys or just not my type. So, grabbed her for a quick 30 min session and did the deed.
She really liked having her tits sucked on and would grab my hair as I kept sucking on them. Her pussy was tight and I gave that a good licking till she came twice and she returned the favor happily. Condom on and she rode it till I came and felt relieved.
It wasn't a crazy night but I wasn't going for that like last time. I leave today for SP and am saving my energy for the girls at Scandello.
To the mongers I met last night — it was a pleasure and we will meet again for sure.
Has anybody seen this tute at 4 x 4? She used to work there before the fire. Now that it's open again, I wonder if she has returned? She tried to tell me that she looks the way she does just by working out, taking vitamins, and eating well. I say she's full of it! Her lips look injected, her tits aren't natural, and her ass looks plastic too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not kicking her out. Fucked her in the ass at Quatro, and would do her again. But no question in my mind that her German-Brazilian self has been "enhanced".
Went last week to Vivo and Tim stores to get a Brazil phone number but neither would give me SIM card without a CPF, and Tim wouldn't even reactivate my previous phone number without a CPF. I remembered a post by Vagabundo about getting one from a kiosk but could not find the post in a search. Met with Vagabundo on Wednesday to go to Casa Bombeiro and asked him where he said to get the card. He said it was at Central metro station, so we walked there because it was fairly close. There is a Tim stand in front of the entrance with a sign saying a SIM card is 10 real. Told the girl there that I did not have a CPF. She called another girl over and told her I had no CPF. The other girl took out a stack of SIM cards and gave me one to put in my phone. She then activated it and it worked fine. For 10 real you get the chip, 20 days of unlimited calls, and 9 gb of data, and it is rechargeable. Hell of a deal. Thanks, Vagabundo.
Wednesday night met up with Vagabundo and Anaggie at 4 x4. Arrived around 7:30 PM. Much quieter compared to the previous Wednesday, when there were at least 60-65 girls and lots of men. Noticed around 9 PM a girl leaving and then learned that the girl Anaggie was talking to was leaving at 10 because her shift was over. Never realized that the girls there apparently worked 8-hour shifts, so you should get there no later than 8 PM if you want the widest choice of girls. On leaving 4 x4, decided to visit Club New York to see what the costs were there. When I got there, the place was dark and I thought it was closed. Sitting in the darkness was a doorman. Asked him if it was open, how many girls working, and costs. Was told it was open till midnight, tonight was a slow night so not so many girls, and entrance was 50 real consumable with an hour program costing 320 real.
Went last night about 6 PM. Asked doorman how man girls were working; he said 20-25. Only the downstairs whiskeria is open; the upstairs boate was closed. The whiskeria was fairly small, maybe 2/3 the size of 4 x4, and a lot darker. When I went in I saw maybe 10 girls, most sitting together or standing near the bar. Never saw more than 12-13 in the two hours I was there. Some OK looking girls but not the quality of the best at 4 x4. Domestic beers are 15 real but caipirinhas are 30 real, which is even more than at 4 x4. A couple of girls came over to chat and get me to program with them but never pulled the trigger because I was still working off my feijoada lunch and didn't have the energy. During the chat with the second girl, I asked her how much of the 320 real hour session she gets; she said 250 real. I told her I was surprised because a girl at T65 had told me that the girls at 4 x4 and T65 get 200 real for an hour session. She said that was why she worked there.
Conclusion: not much reason to go back. More girls at T65 for about the same cost.
Wednesday night met up with Vagabundo and Anaggie at 4 x4. Arrived around 7:30 PM. Much quieter compared to the previous Wednesday, when there were at least 60-65 girls and lots of men. Noticed around 9 PM a girl leaving and then learned that the girl Anaggie was talking to was leaving at 10 because her shift was over. Never realized that the girls there apparently worked 8-hour shifts, so you should get there no later than 8 PM if you want the widest choice of girls. On leaving 4 x4, decided to visit Club New York to see what the costs were there. When I got there, the place was dark and I thought it was closed. Sitting in the darkness was a doorman. Asked him if it was open, how many girls working, and costs. Was told it was open till midnight, tonight was a slow night so not so many girls, and entrance was 50 real consumable with an hour program costing 320 real.
Went last night about 6 PM. Asked doorman how many girls were working; he said 20-25. Only the downstairs whiskeria is open; the upstairs boate was closed. The whiskeria was fairly small, maybe 2/3 the size of 4 x4, and a lot darker. When I went in I saw maybe 10 girls, most sitting together or standing near the bar. Never saw more than 12-13 in the two hours I was there. Some OK looking girls but not the quality of the best at 4 x4. Domestic beers are 15 real but caipirinhas are 30 real, which is even more than at 4 x4. A couple of girls came over to chat and get me to program with them but never pulled the trigger because I was still working off my feijoada lunch and didn't have the energy. During the chat with the second girl, I asked her how much of the 320 real hour session she gets; she said 250 real. I told her I was surprised because a girl at T65 had told me that the girls at 4 x4 and T65 get 200 real for an hour session. She said that was why she worked there.
Conclusion: not much reason to go back. More girls at T65 for about the same cost.
Nina deponca Came over. 3 pops. Anal, BBFS. But the ***** **** working girl smokes and will not obey so I am close to punching her. The smoking made me lose her money. I am ready to fire her and any other of these **** working girls who Smoke. I hate smoking now that I am training more.
That was fun.
Good to see you.
Fair winds and following seas.
They let DJ vagabundo play half a song.
Lesson is go on Mondays to guest DJ!
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2588951]Landed GIG at 10 am after all my flights were delayed the day before and went straight to work approx 2 hrs away from Rio. I knew it was going to be a long day so I ate clean and drank plenty of water. Came back to Rio approx 6 pm, checked into the hotel, showered and off to 4 x4 I went.
4 x4 was hopping when I got there. Approx 35-40 girls when I walked in. All types. And all fuckable which makes a huge difference. There was something for everyone. Met up with Professor Vagabundo and Sir Johnny Boy which was a pleasure to run into someone you can link up with.
Talked to a few girls and the girl that I had a great time with last time comes downstairs and we played around a bit. She had finished her schedule and we were getting ready to leave to grab a bite to eat and back to the hotel, but that didn't work out as she had to get home to her babysitter. Got her number for the next time I am in rio and went back upstairs..[/QUOTE]
No.
In the 10 times I've been there this year I have not seen her.
Lots of Morena Clara 18 year olds that will pump your Julie Andrews Nordic sex fantasies.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2589263]Has anybody seen this tute at 4 x 4? She used to work there before the fire. Now that it's open again, I wonder if she has returned? She tried to tell me that she looks the way she does just by working out, taking vitamins, and eating well. I say she's full of it! Her lips look injected, her tits aren't natural, and her ass looks plastic too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not kicking her out. Fucked her in the ass at Quatro, and would do her again. But no question in my mind that her German-Brazilian self has been "enhanced".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2588286]Why not just get reais from the ATM?[/QUOTE]Because Rio is the capital of ATM card skimming!
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2589340] . . . He said it was at Central metro station, so we walked there because it was fairly close. There is a Tim stand in front of the entrance with a sign saying a SIM card is 10 real. . .[/QUOTE]Yep, there are a great many good deals to be found in Centro. When you see the Copa tutes selling much of their wares (ie. sunglasses, hats, football shirts, beach towels...etc), many of them have simply purchased it in Centro and then up sell it in Copa (for the tourists) for a small profit. This goes double for some of the business owned shops in Copa.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2589396]No.
In the 10 times I've been there this year I have not seen her.
Lots of Morena Clara 18 year olds that will pump your Julie Andrews Nordic sex fantasies.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel and tip Dom Vagabundo, but they are no longer just my "fantasies" hahaha!
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2588599]Thanks for the report. I can't wait to be there, I'll be on the ground in about 3 weeks, planning on hitting Solarium on Monday too, your report gives me hope. You don't use Uber to move around? How did you find your driver?[/QUOTE]I use both. Uber is super cheap in Brazil and there are tons of drivers. My regular driver lived in the states for 10 years, so he speaks great English and is very knowledgeable about all the best spots for girls. He actually introduced me to a non pro who I have a date with tomorrow. He came referred to me by a guy I met on the flight down in June.
I could post some pictures of the current 4 x 4 top girls, but I don't have their permission to post their faces, nor do I really want to.
But I have to say, what is going on with the lips on that pic you posted? Those are some Botox highly modified lips, not to mention tits, which is generally a improvement, I guess.
Anyway, the current crop includes a certain loira (blonde) who is 18 from minas gerais, who like half a dozen of our comrades has banged. There are other blonde / brunettes who are 18 I am thinking of. Getting their pics and posting them here is not my thing, but if it is yours or the fetish of others (and we men always are visually oriented), then get on a plain and join the party.
[URL]Economist.com[/URL] has noted that there is a post pandemic and pre pandemic era.
Are those pictures from the girl today, and she is saying she is at 4 x 4? Or are those pictures of her from before the pandemic? Prior to to the 2019 fire seems like a few lifetimes ago, given all that has happened.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2589263]Has anybody seen this tute at 4 x 4? She used to work there before the fire. Now that it's open again, I wonder if she has returned? She tried to tell me that she looks the way she does just by working out, taking vitamins, and eating well. I say she's full of it! Her lips look injected, her tits aren't natural, and her ass looks plastic too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not kicking her out. Fucked her in the ass at Quatro, and would do her again. But no question in my mind that her German-Brazilian self has been "enhanced".[/QUOTE]
FWIW, I only use Bradesco ATMs to get cash and pay for everything in cash otherwise.
I also got a locally sold, refillable bank card. I have yet to use it.
I have had my card skimmed, but it was probably not at Bradesco, but another ATM.
That said, Bravo is a expert worth listening to.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2589414]Because Rio is the capital of ATM card skimming![/QUOTE]
I would suggest socks with those sandals for serious hikes, like the transcarioca trail for waterfalls. You take the 409 Horto bus to the end of the line in zona sul / jardim botanico, and follow the signs to some awesome waterfalls, made for skinny dipping with your favorite girl, great for photographs and to cool off. And you are 30 minutes away from the beach for a post hike swim at barra posto 4. The only thing about hiking is some trails have vagabundos with rifles, so go with guides who know how to be safe. You can also swim with those sandals. They are straight up amphibian.
[QUOTE=Yossarian;2588522]Thanks for the tips. Especially the lightweight hiking sandals link.[/QUOTE]
I've decided as a little gift to myself after my divorce I am planning a two week celebration in Rio by myself in November. To get the lay of the land and start the planning process I red the first 40 pages of this thread but got so horny I had to slip out to my local Chinese meat market for a 30 euro pump and dump to clear my head. I guess this is just a little thank you message, there truly is a wealth of information here on the Rio thread, everything from where to eat, which sandals to buy for a VM visit, the best Bermuda shorts with hidden CC pocket for the beach, clearly marked google maps with pins and even different budgets for mongering. I truly hope to meet some of you there and at the very least buy a round of beers.
*Did anyone ever hear again from the guy who wanted to bang 4 girls a day for 3 hour sessions and was only going to live from clear broth and Viagra? That whole story really made my day.
PM me, I will still be here; you may have to upgrade to message.
[QUOTE=Proline22;2589711]I've decided as a little gift to myself after my divorce I am planning a two week celebration in Rio by myself in November. To get the lay of the land and start the planning process I red the first 40 pages of this thread but got so horny I had to slip out to my local Chinese meat market for a 30 euro pump and dump to clear my head. I guess this is just a little thank you message, there truly is a wealth of information here on the Rio thread, everything from where to eat, which sandals to buy for a VM visit, the best Bermuda shorts with hidden CC pocket for the beach, clearly marked google maps with pins and even different budgets for mongering. I truly hope to meet some of you there and at the very least buy a round of beers.
*Did anyone ever hear again from the guy who wanted to bang 4 girls a day for 3 hour sessions and was only going to live from clear broth and Viagra? That whole story really made my day.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2589591]Are those pictures from the girl today, and she is saying she is at 4 x 4? Or are those pictures of her from before the pandemic? Prior to to the 2019 fire seems like a few lifetimes ago, given all that has happened.[/QUOTE]They are actually relatively recent pictures from her OnlyFans account that I pulled from Whatspp, where she posts to advertise her OnlyFans site (I am not a member). Which, after I asked here, I said to myself why don't you just ask her yourself since you have her WhatsApp? Which I will do. She has not said that she returned to 4 x4. I was just wondering. And yeah, no doubt she has injected her lips. She's all-natural my ass!
[QUOTE=Proline22;2589711]I've decided as a little gift to myself after my divorce I am planning a two week celebration in Rio by myself in November. To get the lay of the land and start the planning process I red the first 40 pages of this thread but got so horny I had to slip out to my local Chinese meat market for a 30 euro pump and dump to clear my head. I guess this is just a little thank you message, there truly is a wealth of information here on the Rio thread, everything from where to eat, which sandals to buy for a VM visit, the best Bermuda shorts with hidden CC pocket for the beach, clearly marked google maps with pins and even different budgets for mongering. I truly hope to meet some of you there and at the very least buy a round of beers.
*Did anyone ever hear again from the guy who wanted to bang 4 girls a day for 3 hour sessions and was only going to live from clear broth and Viagra? That whole story really made my day.[/QUOTE]I always advise people to start with the Reports of Distinction instead of reading pages and pages back and having to wade through extraneous posts all over the place. You get more bang for the buck in a more efficient way by focusing heavily on the RODs.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2589687]I would suggest socks with those sandals for serious hikes, like the transcarioca trail for waterfalls. You take the 409 Horto bus to the end of the line in zona sul / jardim botanico, and follow the signs to some awesome waterfalls, made for skinny dipping with your favorite girl, great for photographs and to cool off. And you are 30 minutes away from the beach for a post hike swim at barra posto 4. The only thing about hiking is some trails have vagabundos with rifles, so go with guides who know how to be safe. You can also swim with those sandals. They are straight up amphibian.[/QUOTE]Great tips on what to bring, I will bring rash guards and other stuff with me, I would have forgotten those without reading your posts. I see some kitesurfing pictures near posto 1 in Barra da Tijuca. It makes me wonder if I should bring wetsuit
[QUOTE=Spidy;2589434]Yep, there are a great many good deals to be found in Centro. When you see the Copa tutes selling much of their wares (ie. sunglasses, hats, football shirts, beach towels...etc), many of them have simply purchased it in Centro and then up sell it in Copa (for the tourists) for a small profit. This goes double for some of the business owned shops in Copa.[/QUOTE]The wholesale area in Centro is run by the Chinese. There resellers can buy individual items, baseball caps, t-shirts or they can buy in bulk and get a discount. Prices are clearly marked but there is always room for negotiation. Some electronics can also be purchased here. Like phone chargers but many of those are purchased at wholesale from same electronics stores you see when getting off the metro.
[QUOTE=Proline22;2589711]I've decided as a little gift to myself after my divorce I am planning a two week celebration in Rio by myself in November. To get the lay of the land and [b]start the planning process I red the first 40 pages of this thread, but [/b]. . . [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2589819]I always advise people to start with the Reports of Distinction instead of reading pages and pages back and having to wade through extraneous posts all over the place. You get more bang for the buck in a more efficient way by focusing heavily on the RODs.[/QUOTE]I second, that sage advice. Also happens to be the way I typically research and gather info, on a new destination.
I'll just add to that notion, and say another advantage to first checking and reading the RODs, is that, most often in the following days, topics of discussions will form around a ROD, highlighting the pros, cons, advantages, disadvantages, what could be done better, what to avoid next time...etc.
Thing is, [i]all sorts of questions and answers will be generated[/i], in which you yourself may have thought about or wondered.
One more thing. Although the ISG editor is a [i]"pain in the ass"[/i], the ISG search feature is very good. There are several search tools you can use. Get to know them, they will serve you well.
There hasn't been a lot of talk about BBFS but it is very important to me to know. Is Vila mimosa any good nowadays? In WT69's map it says over 1.5 k SWs with prices of 50-70 R which seems excellent to me for the exchange rate I get. MDE Botero is just in the same priceclass but nowhere near 1.5 k SWs. I don't mind running around asking half of them in a month for BBFS. Termas seem very overpriced to me and gparena seems like lots of effort, which I wouldn't mind either if BBFS is available at a reasonable rate.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2589340]Went last week to Vivo and Tim stores to get a Brazil phone number but neither would give me SIM card without a CPF, and Tim wouldn't even reactivate my previous phone number without a CPF. I remembered a post by Vagabundo about getting one from a kiosk but could not find the post in a search. Met with Vagabundo on Wednesday to go to Casa Bombeiro and asked him where he said to get the card. He said it was at Central metro station, so we walked there because it was fairly close. There is a Tim stand in front of the entrance with a sign saying a SIM card is 10 real. Told the girl there that I did not have a CPF. She called another girl over and told her I had no CPF. The other girl took out a stack of SIM cards and gave me one to put in my phone. She then activated it and it worked fine. For 10 real you get the chip, 20 days of unlimited calls, and 9 gb of data, and it is rechargeable. Hell of a deal. Thanks, Vagabundo.[/QUOTE]I am going in two weeks and I am interested in knowing exactly the location to go to get the sim card! Thank you!
[QUOTE=Spidy;2588284]BTW, when in Centro, I would use the Zenith Exchange and Tourism house a just across the street and few doors down from the Sao Bento Hotel (and Center Hotel) on Rio Branco.
Zenith Exchange and Tourism, Avenida 25 - Av. Rio Branco, 25, Centro, Rio de Janeiro, [URL]https://www.zenithcambio.com.br[/URL].
About 1 or 2 blocks away, Av. Rio Branco intersects with Av. Pres. Vargas and there are several Exchanges on the corner, each giving fair to comparable rates. (Note: Windsor Guanabara Hotel is located at the same intersection for a bearing reference).[/QUOTE]Went to the Bradesco branch across the street from the Hotel Atlantico Tower to compare bank ATM rates with the money exchange place recommended above. Was going to see what the bank rate was and compare it with Zenith. Machine said there was a 20 real fee for a withdrawal. Input real 1000 as the amount that I wanted to see what it would cost in dollars but it processed the transaction without giving the dollar amount. I then went to Zenith and asked for their rate for a $100 bill. Was told it was 5. 20.
At hotel went to my bank's website and saw that I had been charged $195.29 for 1020 real (1000 real for me plus the 20 real fee) for a rate of 5. 223. I have the fee reimbursed so I got this rate for my 1000 real. If the fee was not reimbursed the rate would have been 5. 12. Obviously the higher the amount withdrawn, the lower the impact of the ATM fee (e. G. Withdrawing 5000 real the rate would be 5. 202 even with the fee).
If you have an ATM card that reimburses ATM fees, using an ATM (at least a Bradesco one) is better, and if you withdraw enough at one time, it is the same as using most money exchange places even with the fee.
Went to Lapa about 9 PM Saturday night. Passed by Up House. Tout tried to get me in, said no admission, only consumption. Rates are 20 minutes 100 real, 30 minutes 150 real, and 60 minutes 250 real. Asked how many girls were working. He said 20. I told him last time I went in there were only 3. He seemed surprised and asked what day. Told him it was last week on a Tuesday, to which he said it is slow that day. Confirmed with him that there wasn't any minimum consumption, so went in, with him following me. Place was dark and dead, maybe 4 customers and 6 girls in the place, one of which might have been doable. I asked him where were the other 13 girls and he said upstairs in sessions. Since that was obviously not true, walked out of the place.
If you're in the area, there is little harm in checking it out since there should be no cost to look but don't make a special trip to go there.
I have a Love / Hate relationship with this spot. I love seeing the girls flow in and out all night long but I have how they always try to rip you off when it comes time to pay your bill! There are times when I am leaving the club alone and they will charge 50 R for a Despersa fee. When I asked a waitress what that meant, she said "Its the exit fee they charge when you take a female out of the club". I was all alone at the desk and they still tried to charge me a fee for taking a girl out.
In addition, if you purchase a bottle of alcohol and sit on the VIP couches, you do not have to pay the table fee of 200 R! The waiters try to add that to your bill in order to get a larger percentage when they get their cut of the bill.
Vagabundo's Daily Plan (MF).
The plan of The day is:
Meet at Metro Cinelandia Starbucks (google Rio metro map).
12 h30 - 15 h.
Recon centro prives, fuck. (see [URL]gparena.net[/URL]).
15 h lunch zanetti;.
15 h30 social hotel atlantico tower 18th floor; rua inhuama 95 (the smartest mongers just stay here, due to convenience, and swap rooms with their friends at Transamerica).
17 h terma 116, fuck; rua the conceciao 116, the former secret terma.
18 h 4 x4, fuck, play Rihanna and felipe ret. Rua Buenos Aires 44 (wifi PW is buenos44).
Saturday, Sundays: 12 h30, meet at Metro Cinelandia Starbucks, take metro to Sao Cristovao, walk to massagemtijuca, on Saturday. On Sunday, walk to VM.
References to insert:
Website with bus schedule for Transamerica flat / Mediterraneo Condo.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2589687]I would suggest socks with those sandals for serious hikes, like the transcarioca trail for waterfalls. You take the 409 Horto bus to the end of the line in zona sul / jardim botanico, and follow the signs to some awesome waterfalls, made for skinny dipping with your favorite girl, great for photographs and to cool off. And you are 30 minutes away from the beach for a post hike swim at barra posto 4. The only thing about hiking is some trails have vagabundos with rifles, so go with guides who know how to be safe. You can also swim with those sandals. They are straight up amphibian.[/QUOTE]Thanks again for the golden advice you regularly give out. I am looking at coming there for about 3 weeks in November. One thing I would like to do that I have not done in my previous 2 trips to Rio de Janeiro is to do some of these wonderful hikes / treks about which I hear and read so much. Basically get myself out of Copa / Leme / Ipanema and see more of Rio de Janeiro. Seriously considering staying in Barra da Tijuca and maybe taking that executive bus to which you have made reference a few times here to get down to Centro or just Uber where I need to go.
I'm 12 weeks away from my first Rio trip. I'm going to use Airbnb. I like my options for places to stay in Ipanema better then Coco cabana but as a first timer I keep reading that it's better to stay in that area. Is that true?
[QUOTE=Bravo;2590531]I have a Love / Hate relationship with this spot. I love seeing the girls flow in and out all night long but I have how they always try to rip you off when it comes time to pay your bill! There are times when I am leaving the club alone and they will charge 50 R for a Despersa fee. When I asked a waitress what that meant, she said "Its the exit fee they charge when you take a female out of the club". I was all alone at the desk and they still tried to charge me a fee for taking a girl out.
In addition, if you purchase a bottle of alcohol and sit on the VIP couches, you do not have to pay the table fee of 200 R! The waiters try to add that to your bill in order to get a larger percentage when they get their cut of the bill.[/QUOTE]HI Bravo. Customer has to pay R50 to take a girl out? And R200 if I sit down at a table? I was there 3 years ago and didn't see that charge! Please confirm so I know before I go, Thanks.
[QUOTE=PapiMuyRico;2590696]HI Bravo. Customer has to pay R50 to take a girl out? And R200 if I sit down at a table? I was there 3 years ago and didn't see that charge! Please confirm so I know before I go, Thanks.[/QUOTE]PMR,
I am not sure what you want me to confirm. I just returned from a 2 month trip and they tried to hit me with the fee on Multiple occasions. Each and every time, I confronted them and they removed it from my bill. I think at the end, the girl was just trying to fuck me over because she was sick and tired of me always checking my bill.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2590689]I'm 12 weeks away from my first Rio trip. I'm going to use Airbnb. I like my options for places to stay in Ipanema better then Coco cabana but as a first timer I keep reading that it's better to stay in that area. Is that true?[/QUOTE][B]Here's you asking the same question about 2-weeks ago: [/B]
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2582677][b]Couple more questions for my first trip to Rio.[/b] Based on advice on here I've decided to stay in Cococabana but my best off staying close to the beach or is there a better area? . . . [/QUOTE][B]Here's Xpartan answering your question:[/B]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2583101]I don't know if you're staying at a hotel or apartment, but don't stay 'close' to the beach. Stay across from the beach on Avenida Atlantica. Sure, 1-2 blocks from the beach don't sound like a big deal, but that puts you on Nossa Senhora, which is noisy, polluted, unpleasant and might be an unsafe walk down a side street late at night. Trust me, this one or two blocks (depending where in Copa you're staying) makes a hell of a difference even if staying on Atlantica costs you a few more shekels. The only exception is if you're staying in Arpoador. I love that small area between Copacabana and Ipanema, and there are some upscale apartments there with killer views.[/QUOTE]Note: Mr Enternational, Rio Bob and Yossarian, also followed up w/r to questions about "What stuff bring to the beach?"
[i]Was your question(s) not already asked and answered? [/i]
Copa or Ipanema, they are both or fine. There is no wrong or right answer. Book a few days Airbnb in Ipanema, if you don't like it then find something in Copa. If you like Ipanema, then extend your stay. And vise-a-versa, if you book in Copa.
Any intel on Copa Terapias.
Says they offer mutal massage and nuru, but wondering if that means full service?
[URL]http://copaterapias.com.br/therapists/[/URL]
[QUOTE=ManchesterLad1;2590841]Any intel on Copa Terapias.
Says they offer mutal massage and nuru, but wondering if that means full service?
[URL]http://copaterapias.com.br/therapists/[/URL][/QUOTE]Try a simple thread search and see if you can find the answer (you can).
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2590689]I'm 12 weeks away from my first Rio trip. I'm going to use Airbnb. I like my options for places to stay in Ipanema better then Coco cabana but as a first timer I keep reading that it's better to stay in that area. Is that true?[/QUOTE]As Xpartan noted, Arpoador the very small point joining Copacabana and Ipanema is a very good choice. Familiarize yourself with a map of Copacabana and Ipanema. You will see the East side of Ipanema is basically joined to the Southwest side of Copacabana. So don't overthink it. It's all right there. Walking back and forth during the day is no big deal. Going to one beach or the other is no big deal.
Some guys like staying down at the opposite end (Northeast) of Copacabana due to its proximity to Mabs and Dolce Vita. Since I do not recommend walking around at night and choose to take Ubers instead, there really isn't a reason for me to stay at that end of Copacabana.
[QUOTE=ManchesterLad1;2590841]Any intel on Copa Terapias.
Says they offer mutal massage and nuru, but wondering if that means full service?
[URL]http://copaterapias.com.br/therapists/[/URL][/QUOTE]No full service, just a happy ending.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2591051]Try a simple thread search and see if you can find the answer (you can).[/QUOTE]Only saw one in the photo; which the guy says he's not 100 percent sure.
Went to 156 Rio Branco about 4 PM. 6 of 8 girls at Dudas (3320) were busy, which surprised me as I thought that would be a slow time, so left. Also went to check out Lolas (3225) but it closed up shop. Went to Bel Prazer at 185 instead.
I did think about buying a shorty websuit shirt at decathlon when I went there with stargazer the other day. The water temperatures are such that it would make it more comfortable. I will probably try double rash guards for a next step though. I try to keep my cloths to a minimum so, theoretically, I could take off on an hours notice.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2589825]Great tips on what to bring, I will bring rash guards and other stuff with me, I would have forgotten those without reading your posts. I see some kitesurfing pictures near posto 1 in Barra da Tijuca. It makes me wonder if I should bring wetsuit[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2591060]As Xpartan noted, Arpoador the very small point joining Copacabana and Ipanema is a very good choice. Familiarize yourself with a map of Copacabana and Ipanema. You will see the East side of Ipanema is basically joined to the Southwest side of Copacabana. So don't overthink it. It's all right there. Walking back and forth during the day is no big deal. Going to one beach or the other is no big deal.
Some guys like staying down at the opposite end (Northeast) of Copacabana due to its proximity to Mabs and Dolce Vita. Since I do not recommend walking around at night and choose to take Ubers instead, there really isn't a reason for me to stay at that end of Copacabana.[/QUOTE]Thank you for that advice I will definitely check that area out. Sorry for those that got annoyed by asking the same question twice a few weeks apart but I'm just tying to get as much knowledge as I can to make my first Brazil trip nice. Its my first trip since Pattaya In Feb. Of 2020 and exited to escape work life for a couple weeks. I was definitely a little timid about my first trip to East Asia but the great advice really prepared me and I ended up having a fantastic time. I would've loved to go back but Covid makes that impossible now but I'm excited to try a new area of the world.
[QUOTE=ManchesterLad1;2591100]Only saw one in the photo; which the guy says he's not 100 percent sure.[/QUOTE]Me being that guy, you're correct, LOL.
But right above on the same search page you can see RioBob confirming the HJ nature of that establishment.
In any case, you've got your answer.
Just to make sure you understand I'm not patronizing you (sorry if I gave you this impression).
When you ask a question you might get a narrow answer to that particular question, nothing else.
When you search for an answer, you get the answer to your question and wealth of other information that can help make your trip unforgettable.
As Senhor Vagabundo and other veterans have said.
Start with the reports of distinction.
Read the replies and discussions based on these reports.
Search for the terms that interest you -- the search engine here is quite good.
Read the local gparenadotnet forum. It's amazing how far Google Translate has come.
Ask questions after you've done your homework, and people will be happy to help.
Travel to Rio and have the time of your life.
Write the report.
Good luck!
Pernoite, BBFS, 500 r.
So Vagabundo is doing pernoite. Having stopped drinking and working out more. Our hero is going on 3 hours of fucking the latest negra. A high % of negras from prives and VM will BBFS. I told her 300 pernoite, when she got into the love shack, she upsold me to 500, but that's nothing, so I slid my bratwurst into her negra pink slit and commenced to plough her and we had a great fuck, suck, including on the balcony, where a chair positioned away from the balcony makes a great spot to fuck, with weed and white wine, tea, and Felipe ret full albums on the ryobi speakers and again, thanks to General Palcon, Corporal Vagabundo has batteries. We then ordered some bk, and am watching Netflix.
Good night.
Tomorrow DJ Vagabundo will be playing 4 x 4, and Smokersrule will be there, along with his girlfriend, who will be wearing a strapon.
Monday, sergeant flight surgeon DJ Vagabundo, swiss naval special warfare, attacked td33 with ISG member tboy2121 with his bodyguard Colombian frank, and the three amigos fucked the usual suspects from top to bottom, then went to vanetti, then to hotel Atlántico tower, then to 116, where a hot little negra, Nicole, teased sergeant DJ Vagabundo, who had been promoted and awarded the swiss navy cross for pulling a wounded teammate out of an ambush. After some further patrols with prime minister jimmyboy99, swiss banking authority, and stargazer, the team moved to 4 x 4, where they were treated badly by a dancer named Yasmin who was quite the ****. We will send in some black pip layers to get medieval on her ass, haha.
Pernoite, BBFS, 500 r.
She comes in and we bang BBFS, she upsells to 500, but that is OK. We have already said 300 r pernoite 3 times a week. We fuck on the couch, bed, balcony for 3 hours or more. We hit it on the leather chair with roller wheels on the balcony. I brew sun brewed tea on the balcony, and put granola and protein powder in the 250 ML bottles from engov, the recovery drink. I am trying to get back in shape, and having stopped drinking it comes off quickly. Weed, though I would ideally quit that too, is much more healthy, and a constant winner with the girls. I also serve her some dinalle white wine, chilled. I am such a fucking hero. BK for dinner, enough for breakfast in bed, which we are eating as I type this. The porn must be set to play on silent and the booming speakers are the best investment you, the monger, will make. You play Felipe ret, start radio, on music. [URL]google.com[/URL], you are in there like Flynn. We had a Flynn in the SWISS guard, some asshole that the pope hand picked due to some Irish priest who ended up sucking dick like all the goddamn puritans, but I digress.
Some of that about priests, above, is just great screenwriting, but I don't tell my editor.
The girl came from a centro prive. I will be at cinelandia metro starbucks at 12 h30 . Today, a ISG member is bringing his girlfriend into 4 x4, and Sergeant callsign DJ Vagabundo, swiss naval special warfare, the recipient of the swiss navy cross for covert actions in the battle of Lugano, will be playing the tunes for the tutes to spread their cheeks.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2591253]Me being that guy, you're correct, LOL.
But right above on the same search page you can see RioBob confirming the HJ nature of that establishment.
In any case, you've got your answer.
Just to make sure you understand I'm not patronizing you (sorry if I gave you this impression).
When you ask a question you might get a narrow answer to that particular question, nothing else.
When you search for an answer, you get the answer to your question and wealth of other information that can help make your trip unforgettable.
As Senhor Vagabundo and other veterans have said.
Start with the reports of distinction.
Read the replies and discussions based on these reports.[/QUOTE]Thank you, yes I definitely enjoy the Rio forums more than others as y'all actually talk about valuable info not asking about covid tests etc.
The Marginal Buyer.
In an inefficient market, the marginal buyer is king.
You, the ISG member in Rio, are by definition, the marginal buyer.
OK, let's put that up on the chalkboard.
The 'market' in Rio is defined by natives of Brazil. Guys who make 1300 reais a month, who rent for 400, and who have the odd 50 twice a week, maybe, to spend on sex, so they go to centro prives or VM.
[URL]economist.com[/URL] recently noted that a PhD medical researcher is making like 4000 a month, and she's moving to France because Brazil sucks.
In that market, 4 x 4 is as good as it gets. It is the top. Maybe there are some at solarium who are better, but Vagabundo having been to both, is here to tell you, Solarium just spends more on pharmaceuticals. The quality of the chicks is the same. MC? Please. That's warmed over 27 year olds who are rejects from 4 x4.
The "market" is the centro terma. Most upwardly mobile, or white collar Brazilians are office workers in centro. They make between 1300 and 4000 a month. They go bang a hot prive girl with between 80 and 120. Maybe they go to VM on their way home, or to work. Many work 12-6 or some odd hour shift.
The number of ISG members in town at any given time is at most 7 multiplied by 3 (assuming that two times as many are just lurkers, or just guys who show up at 4 x 4 by their word of mouth). That is a negligible number. 20-30 dicks in a megacity of 12 million, of which say 3 million are fucking age males. The market is that great mass of Brazilian men looking to get the poison out.
And who are we? Even accounting for "high class problems" of whether you like blondes in tier 1 termas or negras in VM, we, the ISG members are the happy few, the guys who can get laid, when we want, any time we want. Judging by the pathetic rich world men who are my 'friends' on social networks and who whine like little girls in message boards, but who are married to some post menopausal dry pussy church chick who they support because she cooks 3 times a day, and who doesn't fuck like the girl in the next room at the motel in Reno, they are the sad, the guys who jerk off maybe, instead of getting some.
Well, its Thursday, and Vagabundo is still a little tired after the good marathon fuck on Tuesday, tired in a good way. Ana Foxxx says she wants to do a pernoite. So I may do that. Nia Nacci is texting vagabundo again to come over to barra so Vagabundo can defile her.
The plan from tboy2121 was to do barra today, see Transamerica and hit some termas. We will see what happens.
[QUOTE=TShelby;2590271]I am going in two weeks and I am interested in knowing exactly the location to go to get the sim card! Thank you![/QUOTE]Sorry friends, I can't find the Vagabundo post where was talking about the best place to buy a SIM card, I'm going to Rio next week and I'd like to have more information to waste as little time as possible. Obrigado.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2589340]Went last week to Vivo and Tim stores to get a Brazil phone number but neither would give me SIM card without a CPF, and Tim wouldn't even reactivate my previous phone number without a CPF. I remembered a post by Vagabundo about getting one from a kiosk but could not find the post in a search. Met with Vagabundo on Wednesday to go to Casa Bombeiro and asked him where he said to get the card. He said it was at Central metro station, so we walked there because it was fairly close. There is a Tim stand in front of the entrance with a sign saying a SIM card is 10 real. Told the girl there that I did not have a CPF. She called another girl over and told her I had no CPF. The other girl took out a stack of SIM cards and gave me one to put in my phone. She then activated it and it worked fine. For 10 real you get the chip, 20 days of unlimited calls, and 9 gb of data, and it is rechargeable. Hell of a deal. Thanks, Vagabundo.[/QUOTE]Here is the info you were looking for.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2591790]And who are we? Even accounting for "high class problems" of whether you like blondes in tier 1 termas or negras in VM, we, the ISG members are the happy few, the guys who can get laid, when we want, any time we want. Judging by the pathetic rich world men who are my 'friends' on social networks and who whine like little girls in message boards, but who are married to some post menopausal dry pussy church chick who they support because she cooks 3 times a day, and who doesn't fuck like the girl in the next room at the motel in Reno, they are the sad, the guys who jerk off maybe, instead of getting some.[/QUOTE]I see these thirsty men out here tripping over themselves and kissing ass on fat, unattractive, bossy women trying to get some of that depreciated pussy! If there's one thing a committed monger is not, it's "thirsty" for some puss and ass! No way am I going to settle for "standard fare" when I know I can be boning hot, 20+ year-old Brazilian brancas and morenas, 70% of them in the ass (that's my Brazil LAA or Lifetime Anal Average)! We may all have our own individual challenges, but achieving sexual satisfaction ain't one of them! I gots 99 problems, but getting some pussy ain't one! And I will keep mongering until either I can't get it up anymore, I can't afford it anymore, or I'm not breathing anymore! So help me God!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2591790]The Marginal Buyer.
In an inefficient market, the marginal buyer is king.
You, the ISG member in Rio, are by definition, the marginal buyer.
OK, let's put that up on the chalkboard.
The 'market' in Rio is defined by natives of Brazil. Guys who make 1300 reais a month, who rent for 400, and who have the odd 50 twice a week, maybe, to spend on sex, so they go to centro prives or VM.
[URL]economist.com[/URL] recently noted that a PhD medical researcher is making like 4000 a month, and she's moving to France because Brazil sucks.
In that market, 4 x 4 is as good as it gets. It is the top. Maybe there are some at solarium who are better, but Vagabundo having been to both, is here to tell you, Solarium just spends more on pharmaceuticals. The quality of the chicks is the same. MC? Please. That's warmed over 27 year olds who are rejects from 4 x4...[/QUOTE]I'm sure there is a nugget of information here that can be applied. The best a foreign monger can do in any country is make contact and make offers. Perhaps with some charm a foreigner strolls into 4 x 4 and makes a proposition to one of their top tier hotties, she think it's a great deal and accepts without issue. She instead might require a foreigner premium because you know language, culture, income disparity etc. Makes it necessary for her to ask for more. One foreign dick in several weeks ain't going to make her nut.
Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. From this I take, the marginal buyer in SP has no power.
So why do you think the Rio market is inefficient other than you have proclaimed you have mastered it? I don't think a marginal buyer who drops in for a week or so is going to have the ability to play any inefficiencies.
I haven't mastered it.
These are just my observations.
It is clearly an inefficient market.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2591937]I'm sure there is a nugget of information here that can be applied. The best a foreign monger can do in any country is make contact and make offers. Perhaps with some charm a foreigner strolls into 4 x 4 and makes a proposition to one of their top tier hotties, she think it's a great deal and accepts without issue. She instead might require a foreigner premium because you know language, culture, income disparity etc. Makes it necessary for her to ask for more. One foreign dick in several weeks ain't going to make her nut.
Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. From this I take, the marginal buyer in SP has no power.
So why do you think the Rio market is inefficient other than you have proclaimed you have mastered it? I don't think a marginal buyer who drops in for a week or so is going to have the ability to play any inefficiencies.[/QUOTE]
Reverse Cycle Ops.
Your average top tier stripper at 4 x4 works 16 h to 24 h at 4 x4, maybe goes to Mosaico a few nights a week to fuck who she wants.
Your average top tier prive girl works 12 h to 18 h at a centro prive.
You, the foreign monger, parachuting into GIG or SDU for 2 weeks, staying at Av Atlantico are, by yourself, not going to make a difference, but in the union of gringos, may be able to, and by playing smart, definitely could do well.
The Swiss Naval Infantry teach something called Reverse Cycle Ops, or we own the night, or we are best when they are worst. Cariocas are cold blooded animals, scared of the dark because that is where vagabundos lurk, so, you want to play where they are not occupied. One strategy is simply to get the number of the terma girl and get her to a motel in centro during lunch or the afternoon before her shift at 4 x 4 starts, then take her to buzios, or even closer and better IMHO, to Marambaia Cafe / Pousada on the weekends. Boom. Sundays for 4 x 4 girls (or prive girls). The prive girl on the other hand -- a pernoite once a week (Because if she is any good, she is being dicked down for 8 hours a day from 11 h to 19 h; for example, I am a victim of my own success, ie, stephany, last time I checked which was Monday was booked solid to 17 h when I asked about her at 12 h.) That will show vagabundo that he should not share information too widely. Does the average local girl like a gringo? F no. Fat, often. Can't speak porto, always. Smelly, often. Bad hygiene, often. Money, that's the only saving grace. Small dick, usually, which is why he's paying for it. Asshole, almost always. Old, often. Asian, often, and not a plus for the average latina or negra. But you can play smart. Go reverse cycle: ie, go for the afternoon session at a centro motel (see the guiadomoteis), go for a rare weekday pernoite, go for the weekend pernoite or viagem always. And cross talk with your fellow gringos.
Or you could just be brilliant in the basics, as the Swiss Naval Infantry like to say in their basic school:
For prives, show up at 11 h, and get the apresentacao early so you can get the first session; or you can call ahead and book at girl who has high reviews on GPArena.
For the termas, show up in the afternoon, and ditto.
And if you are really a squared away Monger, you could follow the example of JimmyBoy, who stays at Hotel Atlantico Tower. Logistics, Logistics, Logistics. That is like 250 meters from 4 x 4, and less than 800 m from all the centro prives.
Staying in a Ave Atlantico hotel may be the going trend for newbies, of which there are many, but you don't have to be a lemming. You should stay at Hotel Atlantico Tower or Transamerica. Be the bat, not the ball. Gain and maintain the initiative. Be the hunter, not the hunted.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2591964]I haven't mastered it.
These are just my observations.
It is clearly an inefficient market.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2591937]
Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. From this I take, the marginal buyer in SP has no power.[/QUOTE]I think if it is efficient, most girls should be able to make more money by having more customers per night, and also at a lower price. The girl make more money at lower price by fucking more. The current setup seems to benefit the club and a subset of girls more.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2591937]Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. [/QUOTE]How is it a rumor that chicks go different places and charge different prices? That is fact. Two weeks ago a buddy was in Sao Paulo and posted in a group that he had just seen a chick and her friends that he knew from the beach in Rio. They wanted twice as much at Bahamas Club in Sao Paulo as they did in Rio.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2591904]I see these thirsty men out here tripping over themselves and kissing ass on fat, unattractive, bossy women trying to get some of that depreciated pussy! If there's one thing a committed monger is not, it's "thirsty" for some puss and ass! No way am I going to settle for "standard fare" when I know I can be boning hot, 20+ year-old Brazilian brancas and morenas, 70% of them in the ass (that's my Brazil LAA or Lifetime Anal Average)! We may all have our own individual challenges, but achieving sexual satisfaction ain't one of them! I gots 99 problems, but getting some pussy ain't one! And I will keep mongering until either I can't get it up anymore, I can't afford it anymore, or I'm not breathing anymore! So help me God![/QUOTE]Now I feel like I need a trip to Rio. What part of town do I stay in and where do I look. Bars or agencies? Cartagena fan for years but willing to head further south for a new adventure. Anybody there set up women?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2592301]How is it a rumor that chicks go different places and charge different prices? That is fact. Two weeks ago a buddy was in Sao Paulo and posted in a group that he had just seen a chick and her friends that he knew from the beach in Rio. They wanted twice as much at Bahamas Club in Sao Paulo as they did in Rio.[/QUOTE]I guess it depends how we are discussing different prices at different places. It's been very well-known that the top tier working girls generally charge more in Sao Paulo than in Rio de Janeiro. And to advance that thought, some of these girls might have been to Europe and charged even more.
I don't think that demonstrates an inefficient market.
I used the Scandallo example because that to me was the best example of an efficient market in one place in Brazil. The Rio and SP escorts know where they stand in terms of value. They also know that their value is higher in Sao Paulo. In fact, a case can be made that Sao Paulo at this time has the better looking working girls than Rio. (Sure there will be some hotties in Rio. We're talking numbers.)
[URL]darkroom.com[/URL]. Be
But, you only can fuck so many girls a week.
A few weeks ago, I fucked Kelly on a Sunday.
[URL]https://www.bradmontana.com/atrizes/kelly-oliveira/[/URL]
She is hotter than any SP girl, I am willing to bet; and expert porn players agree.
I bet she is getting taken off the market by being overpaid in Euroland; but I also believe she is a true carioca resident of RJ, and to Rio she will return. For every one like her (and she has a 4 year old kid, and she is like 19), there are many more to be had, especially in the relative wilds of Niteroi and further towards Buzios where she is from.
At any given time, there are girls like Mayara Rodrigues in Rio.
I was at 4 x 4 tonight.
You can't tell me that there are hookers hotter than a certain Pietra. Jimmy Boy fucked her last night. Then she went into a suruba with a 5 guys x 5 girls. And next week sometime, if I have enough fluid left in my body (which is why I am quitting alcohol) I too will enjoy her in a hydromassagem at a motel, and possibly later at my apartment.
I had a normal day.
I missed my luxury bus into centro, so I took a city bus. It was raining so I got some wear out of and broke in a little more my desert boots, and my old Goretex Jacket from when we Swiss Naval Infantry embedded with our allies walked over hills in Korea. I got to Sans Pena, hopped on the metro, met up with Jimmy who was knackered from banging Pietra. I then linked with a cool battle buddy friend I made at 4 x4, who went to [URL]darkroom.com.br[/URL].
This place rocks!
It is on the 20th floor, in penthouse 6. It is a little hard to find, as such. But it is a prive with a deck. There were 10 girls. You can find the address on the site.
I highly recommend it.
But, I had forgotten my Cialis and Viagra, so I went back down to the street after my wingman picked a nice piece of tail to bang.
Then I got some meds, and patrolled over to one of the usual suspect prives, and cranked out a 1 hour session for 120 r.
Anyway, we then went to some spots in centro, picked up a flashlight / taser (my old one died; I recommend non lethal items for protection, as a first option). I am tired AF, as I have been training more. And my fucking is getting better, witness my 3 hour fuck on Tuesday. Look, gents, the girls want you to drink and smoke etc so you will not fuck as well. It's your choice.
So, then we went to 4 x4. It was too busy to really make headway with the best girls who were monopolized by the quasi criminal high rollers with their bottle service, though I did chat up some girls obviously, like Pietra. The locals hate we foreign mongers, and seek to cock block us. But whatever, we will get in there.
I guess I had some philosophical thoughts about sex addiction and whether it is sustainable to be a functional sex addict. But, then I decided to just keep fucking hookers and forget all that pussy ass bullshit!
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2592336]I guess it depends how we are discussing different prices at different places. It's been very well-known that the top tier working girls generally charge more in Sao Paulo than in Rio de Janeiro. And to advance that thought, some of these girls might have been to Europe and charged even more.
I don't think that demonstrates an inefficient market.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2592419]At any given time, there are girls like Mayara Rodrigues in Rio.[/QUOTE]If you talking about the porn star Mayara Rodrigues, she's 42 now. She probably hasn't been paid for a scene in several years.
There have always been women in Rio who have shot porn. If that's what someone desires, they can find them. The best of them were working in the 2000's.
I know there is a hotel and apartments thread but this place gets more eyeballs.
Was looking into getting a good airbnb in copa but I just saw a great offer for $45 a night for a super luxury double room at royal rio palace hotel that includes breakfast and is by posto 2.
The airbnb is $55 a night so the hotel is actually a good deal if its decent and was wondering if anyone had any recent experience with that hotel?
I generally don't like hotels because they feel very cold, procedural and bland and I like to have my freedom to do things like wash my own clothes in my room.
Hotels in rio I seen are a hit or miss (moldy rooms, broken ac, terrible staff) unless it's a established brand like Marriott, Shareton or Hilton and with my last encounter with the Grand Hyatt in SP I don't have an affinity for these places as much.
Only reason I like SP is the airbnb over there are plentiful and you can get a great condo for $35 (gym, pool, balcony, full kitchen, 15th story room, washing machine and centrally located).
I've read some reports that some hotels are being renovated or already are this year so I'd like to hear some feedback. It'd be greatly appreciated!
I'll be in Brazil in September (7 days in SP, 10 days in Rio) so I'll be posting my experiences once I land and hopefully with my previous experience and new intel from you guys I can accomplish a whole lot more.
Also for people talking about bringing a burner phone I would recommend it but for another reason.
My phone is a locked tmobile phone and as such it apparently doesn't allow me to download local brazilian apps on my phone. It just doesn't show up on the google play store.
So I brought my old unlocked phone and I was able to download some (not all tho) BR apps. The washing machine in the condo I was staying in SP required you to download an app and pay thru there to use it. Luckily I was able to use it but when I went to Ibraque Park I couldn't download the bike rental app.
Maybe I'm missing something but that was my encounter.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2592624]It just doesn't show up on the google play store.[/QUOTE]Try to change your google play country to see if that fix the issue.
[URL]https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/7431675?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid[/URL]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2592631]Try to change your google play country to see if that fix the issue.
[URL]https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/7431675?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid[/URL][/QUOTE]It says you can change your google play store country one time a year so I'll do it on my 2nd phone and see if it works which helps the notion of bringing a 2nd phone.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2592624]My phone is a locked tmobile phone and as such it apparently doesn't allow me to download local brazilian apps on my phone. It just doesn't show up on the google play store.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you get Tmobile to unlock it? I used to always do that until I just finally started buying my phones direct from Samsung unlocked. You have to tweak your location and play store to get some apps from other countries.
On another note, I just got Tmobile internet in my house the other day. It is literally 30 times faster than that AT&T crap I had and only $50.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2592658]Why didn't you get Tmobile to unlock it? I used to always do that until I just finally started buying my phones direct from Samsung unlocked. You have to tweak your location and play store to get some apps from other countries.
On another note, I just got Tmobile internet in my house the other day. It is literally 30 times faster than that AT&T crap I had and only $50.[/QUOTE]Man, I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile a few years ago and never looked back. Also buy my phones unlocked.
At any given time, there are girls like Mayara Rodrigues in Rio.
That is music to my ears. I can't wait to go to Rio. Mayara Rodrigues is my all time favorite Brazilian pornstar. God help those Brazilian buttholes if I make my way down there. My LAA is going to be higher then Canes when I get there.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2592624]Also for people talking about bringing a burner phone I would recommend it but for another reason.
My phone is a locked tmobile phone and as such it apparently doesn't allow me to download local brazilian apps on my phone. It just doesn't show up on the google play store.
So I brought my old unlocked phone and I was able to download some (not all tho) BR apps. The washing machine in the condo I was staying in SP required you to download an app and pay thru there to use it. Luckily I was able to use it but when I went to Ibraque Park I couldn't download the bike rental app.
Maybe I'm missing something but that was my encounter.[/QUOTE]I [B]always[/B] purchase unlocked phones. Current Burner Phone is a [b]Dual Sim Pixel 4 with Google Fi (with Flexible for 1 service plan).[/b] I get service right off the plane. I'm done hunting for SIM Cards. With the Pixel 4 I do have the ability to get an additional SIM Card.
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[URL=https://www.pcmag.com/news/google-fi-uses-dual-sims-in-a-really-cool-way#:~:text=Google%27s%20wireless%20carrier%2C%20Fi%2C%20will%20use%20the%20Pixel,technology%20with%20one%20physical%20SIM%20and%20one%20eSIM.]Dual Sim Pixel 4[/URL]. & [URL=https://fi.google.com/about/phones/?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_campaign=dr-2021-evergreen&utm_content=q3-2021_hybrid:campaign_hybrid:device_bkws_phrase_na_text_na_na_na#explore]Phones Designed for Google FI[/URL]
Just got back from about a week in Rio. Quick trip report for you guys.
AIRFARE.
American, around $700 RT from the US. No problems, flights were full but customs / immigration was quicker and easier than ever. Last time I went you had to have a visa so it's nice to not have to do that anymore.
ACCOMMODATION.
We stayed a week at a penthouse on Copa with a big hot tub, off Rua Bolivar (Posto 5). I've stayed there before and it's pricey but worth it. A bit more worn down than last time I stayed. Franky at RiosFinest has been a good contact over the years and I'm glad to bring my business to him. Absolutely no issues with girls, porter was supposed to check IDs and stuff but really didn't when we got in after hours. (Kind of wish he would have but whatever.). Ended up being like $200 a night for a 3 BR. If you need the contact information let me know. (This was way more expensive than $200 a night the first time I stayed there.).
We had a super late flight the last day so moved next door to the Pestana Atlntica so we could shower and stuff. Totally girl friendly but the room was old and the bed sucked. Glad we didn't stay there for the whole time.
GIRLS.
We got in on a Friday. I was with my two friends, one a guy and one a girl. Both are open minded. Went to Mabs and saw nothing first night. Honestly Mabs was a waste of time all the times I went there.
Then went to Dolce Vita. Good selection there on Friday. My buddy found a girl then I found a girl with a friend. He ended up taking his first girl and my girl's friend (against my advice). They said they wanted 300 R each, which was fine. When we got back to the room, his first girl said she wanted $100 and gave him attitude. He ended up giving it to her. I went with my girl and he went with his $100 girl and my girl's friend. The next morning we found the first girl stole some money from my friend, as well as my sunglasses and cologne. Not a big deal, but the lesson here is: Two of them is almost never twice as good and certainly not worth twice the money. And two girls that don't know each other is just a waste of time. It was his first time in Rio, so a valuable lesson learned. My girl was hot and did everything I wanted, and I got her number but she went with some guy to Switzerland a few days later.
I took 3 shots on Photoacomphantes (informed by GParena) and 2 went well and one not great. (Had to give one cab money and send her home.).
The gem I found was Laura from Fortaleza. She was tall, skinny, and I think very beautiful. And she let me do whatever I wanted, including facials and beijos negros. And she wanted 200 R. Always followed up on WhatsApp. I ended up seeing her 3 times. I wish I could take her home with me. I am attaching her pic (which she took in my room so it's real). PM me for her number. She's a very nice girl.
I took my male buddy to 4 x4 one night and it was his first time in a place like this. We got there after 11 on a Tuesday and I thought the pickings were slim, but he thought it was the greatest thing ever. Bought him a session, he is now a friend for life.
Interesting that 4 x4 now allows the option of wearing a robe or not. I kind of prefer the robe requirement but apparently they're making it an option because some people are uncomfortable with robes. Okay, fine.
Attaching the 4 x4 price list for inquiring minds. Also you can text them on WhatsApp at +55 21 96564-4440 and they'll answer your questions. I met the lady who runs it and she was kind to us. (Also helped me locate my lost cell phone.).
While I was at 4 x4 I inquired about bringing my GF there the next day. I knew they didn't allow girls before, but I was surprised to see they welcomed her. We were supposed to go Wednesday to meet Vagabundo but she was tired and wanted to hang at the hot tub so sadly I missed meeting him and others. We went back the next day and the door guy said she could go in the Whiskeria but not upstairs to the termas. I showed him my text with the lady, he confirmed, and no problem. My GF couldn't wear a robe, but she could go in. They sent over a bi girl and they hit it off and went for a session (without me). Not sure how true this is but she said that she was told that they had been equipping certain rooms for women and everyone clapped when she went to the room because she was the first to do so. (Take this with a grain of salt because she knows no porto.).
My buddy went with a new girl with braces who was apparently fantastic. He extended his session from 30 to 90 minutes. Apparently just nonstop great BBBJ. I went with a half Japanese girl who was cool and good at what she does. Two thumbs up for 4 x4. My session, my gfs session, many drinks, filet mignon ended up being 1100 R or so. Good deal.
When 4 x4 termas closes the Whiskeria downstairs is still open. We went downstairs and my friend noticed a girl he liked. Struck a deal for 400 R back to Copa and they left. She stayed several hours and treated him well. I think next time I come I'll spend more time at 4 x4.
OTHER
We went in August (Winter) and it was a little colder than I'the prefer. We got lucky on the sun and rain. It only rained our last two days there. When it rains, might as well make it a termas day. Of course, this being my friends' first trip, we did all the tourist stuff during the day. I won't bore you with that, except to say that the Museu de Amanha is just okay and that a sunset sail in Guanabara Bay is totally worth it. Churrascaria Palace is better than Carretao. I miss Porcao. Drinks at Princess Copacabana (or whatever we are calling it now) are very good, especially if you like stuff you can't order most other places, like Old Fashioneds.
I started going to Rio in 2007-2008 during Help days. Things have changed, and honestly it's less fun than when you could pull from Help / Barbarella. But it's still one of the best destinations I can think of, especially now. When I started going, the exchange rate was 2. 5:1 or so with the USD. Now it's double that. Things are *so* cheap, from food to drinks to tours to girls. If you're thinking about going to Rio, do it! I will likely be back at the end of the year.
Hope this helps!
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2592640]It says you can change your google play store country one time a year so I'll do it on my 2nd phone and see if it works which helps the notion of bringing a 2nd phone.[/QUOTE]Or you can create another account and switch between them when needed.
Must Read on Rio / Brazil colorism / security. AAR on raid that killed 27.
[URL]https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2021/08/12/rio-de-janeiro-asks-why-its-cops-kill-so-many-black-people[/URL]
The image is very good. It should be used as an "overlay" on your map of Rio, especially the rio metro map.
The reason that JimmyBoy is such a good monger, and a good wingman if you can get him, is that he is brilliant in the basics. He chooses to live at Hotel Atlantico Tower, which is dead center of the metro map. He uses the metro, and the city buses. From there, he can: 1) walk to all the centro prives, which is the dividing line of north and south (though not technically, as the economist map divides zona norte differently, including centro in zona norte; I always use North of Av Vargas as Zona Norte); 2) take the metro to zona sul beaches; 3) take the metro to tijuca prives, ie massagemtijuca, annesmassagem.
The map and the story from [URL]economist.com[/URL] rehashes what we discussed a few months back, ie, the jacarazinho (sp) police raid.
At dawn on May 6th residents of Jacarezinho, a favela in Rio de Janeiro, woke to the sound of police helicopters and gunfire. Ten hours later, 28 people were dead, nearly all of them black men. Mariana de Paula, a 27-year-old accountant and activist who lives on the morro ("hill", as steep favelas like Jacarezinho are called), told her boss that it was too dangerous to travel to the office. Her boss, who is white, suggested she use a ride-hailing app. "She didn't get it," says Ms de Paula, who is black. The shooting sounded like popcorn. The victims included one police officer, shot by drug traffickers, and 27 residents killed by the police. Some were unarmed. It was the deadliest police raid in the state's history.
When the shooting stopped, Ms de Paula began her commute down alleyways that zigzag to the bottom of the morro, through a tunnel from Rio's poor Zona Norte to the rich Zona Sul, and finally to Barra the Tijuca, a beachside strip that is 72% white. In mostly white neighbourhoods in Rio flats can cost 2,000 reais ($400) per square foot. Their inhabitants blame poverty and corruption for the violence that plagues the city. But a growing chorus from Ms de Paula's Rio, the mostly black peripheries and favelas, suggests there is more to it than that.
Black Brazilians are increasingly arguing not only that the police are too trigger-happy but also that their violence is sometimes racially motivated. In 2019 Brazilian cops killed 6,357 people. In the state of Rio they killed 1,814: nearly twice as many people as cops killed in the United States, which has a population 19 times as large. Eight out of ten Brazilians killed by police are negros, a grouping that combines the official racial categories of preto, "black", and pardo, "brown" or "mixed". (Throughout this article, "black" refers to the unofficial category of negros.) Police killings tripled between 2013 and 2020 and now represent around a third of all homicides in some states.
Part of the explanation lies in history. Brazil was the last country in the Americas to outlaw slavery. Though former slaves did not suffer formal segregation of the kind imposed by South Africa or the American South, poverty and laws criminalising vagrancy and African religions had a similar effect. Rio "civilised and modernised itself by expelling second-class citizens to the morros", writes Zuenir Ventura in "Cidade Partida" (Divided City, 1994).
Black people too poor to live elsewhere built shantytowns (see map). Their residents became cheap labour for factories in Zona Norte and white families in Zona Sul. Today black Brazilians are 56% of Brazil's population but 70% of the poor. Unemployment is 17% for blacks versus 12% for whites. White Brazilians earn almost twice as much as black ones do.
Great report, sorry I missed you. I was waiting for a pernoite from Ana Foxxx which unsurprisingly, she flaked on (50% flake rate for dates should be expected). I would be interested to know where you contracted for the sunset sail?
As I have said here and elsewhere on ISG, blackfemdom and femdom are winning themes in the global sex / porn market. Let's designate your female friend either callsign Kamala, Ivanka, or Melania, according to preference. And a report from HER on her session at 4 x 4 would be priceless!
Best.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2592818]I won't bore you with that, except to say that the Museu de Amanha is just okay and that a sunset sail in Guanabara Bay is totally worth it. [/QUOTE]
Vagabundo's Gear List.
Further to the sandals, which are winners, I would say this about gear:
1. Shop at decathlon.
Freeway Center, Av. Das Americas, 2000 - Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22640-101.
[URL]https://www.decathlon.com.br/[/URL]
It is a global brand, with stores in rich world locations like San Francisco. The French are culturally neutral. Even Brazilians who hate gringos like the French, because the French are libertines, the monger of mongers. The gear thus does not scream out " I am a gringo, rob me". It could have been gear you bought in Brazil, and you could be Brazilian, if of course, you don't open your mouth and talk.
2. Do wear a vasco covid mask, and or vasco shirt. Pick one up at metro uruguiana.
3. Do wear bombeiro gear, like the lifeguard cap that a new ISG walkon friend bought the other day (I guess we met at 4 x 4, and I added him to our local whatsapp group). I am not talking about wearing " full bombeiro" from head to toe. I am saying wear a piece of bombeiro local gear, like the pants, and the lifeguard (guardia do piscina) cap AND a vasco mask. That says, " I am a off guard civil bombeiro or at least a lifeguard therefore do not fuck with me because the people who legally carry guns are licensed by the same regulator as me" (the pool lifeguard at your pool, has to do 50 meters in 50 seconds and pass a test after a 2 month course on lifesaving techniques).
4. Buy grey preferably, or black, molle / velcro packs for your travel gear, from either decathlon or from 5. 11 tactical. Khaki packs will get inspected on bus trips because they scream out military. Have a Texas velcro patch because god bless fucking Texas (and Switzerland). We need need need a good honky tonk night at some of the better clubs to attract more cowboys, gauchos. Call it a lifetime aspiration.
[URL]https://www.511tactical.com/rush-moab-10.html[/URL]
In double tap (any monger who brings me one of these, vagabundo will gladly pay in local dinheiro and give you a few days of guided tour of the best of Rio's sex venues). The Moab10 sling bag is by far the single best bag for Rio mongering in my experience, limited though it is. I guess I could get amazon to deliver it. I just need to get off my ass and do it.
[URL]https://www.511tactical.com/rush-moab-6.html[/URL]
The Moab10 is a close second. OK, practical tip. Both of those bags have a CC pocket. That pocket works great for your cell phone, and may even save it from theft. In fact, there are TWO CC pockets -- the CC pocket which is designed for a pistol, but would work for a cell, weed, a knife, or any other item; and a water reservoir pocket, which actually works great for a small 11 inch laptop like the old Macbook Air 11 (which memo to apple, apple should make again, but I digress).
[URL]https://www.511tactical.com/rush24-2-0-backpack.html[/URL]
In the double tap, dark navy color. Not khaki. (vagabundo has been inspected on a bus trip to buzios because he had a khaki bag).
[URL]https://www.511tactical.com/apex-pant.html[/URL]
The apex pant is the alpha uniform pant. However, it is not local manufactured so locals will know you are wearing a gringo made pant. You can with any work find the locally made police pant. You don't want to wear police gear as 50% of the population will want to cut your nuts off. You do want to wear bombeiro civil (civil fireman) pants, because it says: 1) you are official, and the official police will protect you 2) the criminals respect you too because you are just maintenance when you walk around the buildings. All this gear is grey. In SP the cops wear grey, and the recognition rules are different. But the 5. 11 gear is top shelf.
The apex pant also has: a CC pocket for flex cuffs, just in case. Zip ties are endlessly useful. A CC pocket for a handcuff key. Ditto.
5. cloths.
ABC pant. Anti Ball Crushing. 'nuff said. Dressy, designed for yoga. If you only pack one pant, this is the best one.
[URL]https://shop.lululemon.com/c/men-pants/_/N-7ubZ1z0xss9?icid=cdp-cdp:mens-casual-pants;3;collectionjson;cdp:mens-abc-clothes;elevatedexperience[/URL]
All your cloths could and probably should be lulu gear -- metal vent polo shirts, the girls like to sleep in this, if its good enough for their tits pernoite, it's good enough for me; the pacebreaker shorts with the CC pocket.
You can find dress shirts, which are made in such a way as you could wear them as rashguard swim shirts. They are so nice that criminals back in the rich world stole them from Vagabundo.
Stuff it all in a 5. 11 tactical (use the tier system to stack packs together) ,or even better decathlon pack.
6. Extra credit. Home Depot.
Everywhere you go, you see gringo brands like Stanley. Nothing says don't fuck like me like a man who has a drill and other powertools with rechargeable batteries, except maybe a Swiss Naval Infantry corporal with a 7. 5 mm x 55 assault rifle, and it would be hard to get the SIG rifle into Brazil, unless you swam in after taking a little rubber boat to the 12 mile limit. A man who carries a street legal spear gun also says, "don't fuck with me" and you can find dive shops on rua alfandega (where 502 is). Go up and get your James bond on. In those shops you will find people who will carry and maybe sell you firearms, which are pretty much the same as spear guns. You can also find hatchets, and if you are so inclined to be ready to defend yourself, you could practice throwing those. You can find taser / flashlights on a tactico shop on rua gomes freire -- 367 to be exact.
But to my point, Home Depot gear is recommended for extended stay mongers, and in these endemic times, any trip could turn into an extended say. I recommend Ryobi rechargeable power tools, first and foremost the mini speaker. But, that said, all the Home Depot gear is top shelf. From the cloths to the knives (the Milwaukee duct knife is the best combat dagger you ever need, and at $20 is very affordable; the SOG SEAL Strike is a top shelf folding knife, and any monger who brings Vagabundo one again, will be rewarded with several days of combat sex patrolling).
I would even recommend the Home Depot sold packs for the career maintenance guy. Gringo brands are all over Rio, so you could still be a local even if you carry Stanly packs. Carhart jeans, pants, shirts, are so universal that French porn stars wear them. And the great majority of poor cariocas are in fact honest, working people who are somehow employed in the status of Rio de Janeiro as a working port -- huge containers ship dot the horizon off the beaches from copa to barra, every few kilometers, all day, every day. The Brazilian military academies of at least 2 services are all along the harbor from 1 distrito naval to urca (the military academy).
7. Patagonia.
The capilene line of mid weight kayaking shirts is solid. Vagabundo wears one bought almost 30 years ago for kayaking on lake lugano enroute to battle with the evil Italians who run brothels in their decrepit, corrupt country, the bastards!
Ideally, your gear should be 40 pound pack, 10 pound carry on. Over 18 months vagabundo's stuff has grown to higher amounts of weight. That said, walking with a pack is both a cardio and a weight work out.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2591157]I did think about buying a shorty websuit shirt at decathlon when I went there with stargazer the other day. The water temperatures are such that it would make it more comfortable. I will probably try double rash guards for a next step though. I try to keep my cloths to a minimum so, theoretically, I could take off on an hours notice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2592818]I took my male buddy to 4 x4 one night and it was his first time in a place like this. We got there after 11 on a Tuesday and I thought the pickings were slim, but he thought it was the greatest thing ever. Bought him a session, he is now a friend for life.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report! Good details and color on the scene. It's always good when a member is willing to share contact info. As I have said before, these girls aren't waiting for us to come back and they likely need the business.
You seem like you already know this, but I will mention the best time to go to 4 x4 is between 5 pm and 7 pm. Termas 4 x 4 is a weekday, after work downtown scene. Many girls have already went home by 11 pm.
The downside of going is more dicks, but definitely more chicks. It's also more festive.
One thing I forgot. Might help Americans traveling to Brazil.
I got a covid test at Labs a+ in Copa near Arpoador. We went to one other location near Posto 5 but they didn't do testing there. The center near Arpoador does not do it on Tuesday but they do on Wednesday. (Not sure about other days.). Cost is 340 R and you get results the next day if you do the test by 11 am. There was one English speaking guy there. Ask for his help.
They never emailed me my results. Rather, you go into a patient portal on their website where you use the username and PW they give you on a sheet when you pay.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2592818] ... My GF couldn't wear a robe, but she could go in. They sent over a bi girl and they hit it off and went for a session (without me). Not sure how true this is but she said that she was told that they had been equipping certain rooms for women and everyone clapped when she went to the room because she was the first to do so. (Take this with a grain of salt because she knows no porto.) ...[/QUOTE]Ahhh! What a pity you didn't join them. But good to know they allow GFs, if prior arrangements are made.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2593001]One thing I forgot. Might help Americans traveling to Brazil.
I got a covid test at Labs a+ in Copa near Arpoador. We went to one other location near Posto 5 but they didn't do testing there. The center near Arpoador does not do it on Tuesday but they do on Wednesday. (Not sure about other days.). Cost is 340 R and you get results the next day if you do the test by 11 am. [/QUOTE]To be clear, which type of Covid test did you get? I am assuming it was PCR since it was so expensive and you had to wait. A PCR in the airport at Sao Paulo Guarulhos is no more than 250 and you do not have to wait 1 day. Actually, Americans do not need a PCR test. An antigen test is sufficient. You could have gotten that at Pacheco drug store for 118 I think and you only have to wait 10 minutes. I have posted this info on the forum before.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2593019]To be clear, which type of Covid test did you get? I am assuming it was PCR since it was so expensive and you had to wait.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Yes, it was PCR.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2593019]To be clear, which type of Covid test did you get? I am assuming it was PCR since it was so expensive and you had to wait. A PCR in the airport at Sao Paulo Guarulhos is no more than 250 and you do not have to wait 1 day. Actually, Americans do not need a PCR test. An antigen test is sufficient. You could have gotten that at Pacheco drug store for 118 I think and you only have to wait 10 minutes. I have posted this info on the forum before.[/QUOTE]Posts like this one that reduce the hassle of getting something done are invaluable. You guys who take the time to make these kind of posts help newbies and veterans alike. Much appreciated.
I went to VM and had a session in a casa where in all the time wasters were employed to rob me of my time and money, though I did get BBFSCIP, which is still a good deal with a 20 year old.
The lesson is simply to take Sperto's excellent advice, which Mr. E took when he sessioned at VM a few months back, and which I did take last weekend: go to the nearby Hotel Canario. The address is Rua ceara 221.
The link is here.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/ztcbdQZmYNtMAY2Z9[/URL]
I don't go to VM much anymore, but I did a few weeks ago when Stargazer first arrived maybe because it was a Sunday and nothing else is open. When I did, I found one of the "usual suspects" and we did go to Hotel Canario, which was 60 or 70 reais for a 3 hour period. I paid the girl 100 for 1+ solid hours of BBFSCIP twice.
It kind of all depends on the casa, and the girl. The problem with all the casas is the tia, the manager, the gerentao, who is the jabba the hut which all the young princess leia working girls become, who have to get their % too.
And I hate smoking. The girls love to smoke because they would rather commit suicide because they have nothing really going. Give me a few of those Brazilian volleyball players from the Olympic games any day. I need to figure out how to source some of those athletes who have good health habits. But, of course, hookers are hookers because they have bad health habits, bad choices int life, criminal records, bad educations, shitty families, and all the rest. Which means that one would have to prospect at places like conventions, like sperto says, for non pros, or other good non pro venues.
I took the metro back after a cab ride to metro uruguiana. I will say that the non pros who are at Metro Jardim Oceanico are very appealing. This is basically the barra crowd of Olegario Maciel, the 72% white part of Rio.
Looking back on Tiavoyage's reports, those venues he noted as good non pro dance places in Barra and in Leblon are the prime places to be. But then, there is all that work to get into bed with the chick.
Monday I did one of the usual suspect prives.
The girl I did is attached. It was great. But, as you blokes are visual learners, feast your eyes from the rich world pussy prisons on that bundinha.
Tuesday, I did two other prive girls.
For less than 40 American dollars a day. Holy shit, batman, this is Valhalla.
Is VM "open" during the daytime? Meaning, is there a selection of garotas to be had? Is the selection better, worse or equal to the night crowd? I've only ever been at night, so I really don't know. Thanks in advance.
Paris Cafe. Melania - WOOHOO Vagabundo's first Terma girl in 2+ years.
So, today, well yesterday too, were great days.
I already posted about some of the prive girls I did.
I then went with stargazer to Paris Cafe in Barra, at 10 pm on a Tuesday.
Place was rocking! Lots of 8's or better.
Stargazer did an absolute 10, a blond. He did a dupla spent 900 on the sex and 260 on the drinks.
Vagabundo is a conservative cheap Charlie munger, but even Vagabundo snagged a morena clara with a Bunda boa, bundinha to die for, falsa magra (lean). He did her for a half hour (250), and bought her a drink or two (93 reais, plus the 30 entrada) so total damage was 343 for a half hour. Now, the sex was not great which again goes to why Vagabundo just gets numbers and gets them back, but the girl OMFG, like Melania Trump when she was 21, complete with no fucking brain because she was drunk. Drunk women, have an appeal all their own. Never gets old. We danced that carioca funk dance. I put my specially made Vagabundo hat on her and she loved it. We did get up to the room and she sat that nice ass on my face, she got nice and wet. I had fucked for 3 orgasms earlier today, so I was a little drained, and I forget my ED meds, so it took a minute to get it up, but I did, and I fucked her in missionary. I got nice and hard in missionary. I was saying romantic things like,"vc quer suruba'? " The sluts eyes lit up, and yes, she wants to have a dick in every hole. So, I took her third hole, slid it into her super appealing little asshole, and she kind of screamed and protested, took about an inch. I am not huge, but I am thick enough, and I do like my anal sex, and she didn't let in more than that, which was fine. I bent her over and finished in doggy style. She immediately said she had to go to the bathroom because clearly she was drunk. It was only a half hour and we were easily over 20 minutes. Mission accomplished. Cost per fuck calculation blown.
I will be swooping in on the hot little blond that stargazer nailed in a dupla. I am so evil. I respect no boundaries. Oh, wait, they are hookers. There are no boundaries. I mean, you can't commit crimes against them, but I mean, it's not like they are married women.
SUmmary: Paris Cafe is awesome. There was a real Venezuelan girl there, who I will be banging.
We went to Perola Negra after. The super tall blonde from minas who everyone has fucked is now a black haired 6.0 chica, I need to start defiling her. She was with some guy from Porto Allegre. It is Brasil. Everyone fucks everyone else.
Thank god. Fuck the puritans. Suck my libertine cock. But let me rest a little because that is three women in one day.
Gentlemen,
Let me thank you for your incredible reports. I've been RTFFing a lot and brushing up on my Porto, haven't spoken any since Junior High (all the way before the millennium! Anyone else remember Girls Gone Wild? HA! But better late than never, right? It seems pretty clear that all Brazilians and not just hookers appreciate it when you give a shit about their culture / treat them with some respect and that's not a problem in my books, but I'll def be making an idiot of myself! LOL! Who said pussy is easy?? Depending on how work pans out I might be in Rio as early as next week or sadly have to wait until Thanksgiving. Then again it's hot in November so nothing wrong churrasco instead of Turkey!
Anyways, the reports of Bubbles Boy, TIA Voyage, Executive Talent, Anaggie, Bearsi and ofc Vagabundo have been 100% helpful. Based on my readings I have found the following, and it's up to your own style of mongering:
1-You can stay at Copa for the convenience / tourist stuff. I'm a tourist and want to do all that boring old man stuff / have room service etc. So cool by me. But if you're really trying to "ace in the hole" (pun intended! Then you want Transamerica to meet the ladies or at least Barra / Ipanema lodgings. I might book a few nights at Transamerica, I saw a website posted back but it seems a bit sketchy, is it OK to just show up and book cash / card onsite? And also it seems to have gone through a lot of name changes, but seems like it's at Av Gastao Senges 395.
2-The Termas seem like the "A game" if you like branca women, not that there aren't plenty available elsewhere. I always like the club / FKK experience so will probably hit these a lot. But to summarize, you pay to get in, robe and wash up, then into the floor to invite girls / makeout / fuck whoever you want. Settle up at end of night. Stay safe if you hit a Centro terma after dark As always getting phone numbers are key! Then there's Prives / Massagems, I've read GPArena and sorta what's the difference between the two? These seem to be a day thing, too.
3-It looks like ideal times for Termas are 530-9 PM. Brazilians get off at 6 so it looks like that's when it really heats up but it dies before night time. Vagabundo says this is because it's for people who want to snuggle before going home. Maybe the robe is needed so the wife doesn't smell anything suspicious LOL! It also looks like Tuesday-Thursday are your "popping" days.
4-For those who want other options there's also BarraVIPS (love the girls on here!) and photoaccompanhentes, that latter one looks like I don't want to roll the dice. But the BarraVIPS girls are hot and I really want to do some! Vagabundo says there's ways to get it for lower, perhaps, and that's why I want to try Transamerica myself. However based on GPArena it looks like yeah the locals will pay the premium for premium pussy. I'm on vacation. I'll find out.
5-You can pernoite a girl including Termas ones. Lots of guys suggested that Termas girls are late / tired after shifts so better to see them on their days off. Means get LOTS of phone numbers!
6-Uber is recommended but lots of guys do metro / public transport. I don't know if I'm comfortable with the idea but there's a first time for everything. Taxis are seen as a bad idea for obvious gringos aka me.
7-there's club styles called Boates like Paris or Perola Negra. I don't know much about these but it's like they're clubs it's just instead of buying some entitled girl drinks and then getting ghosted, you can fuck her instead. Sounds like a deal to me!
8-there's darkside termas and VM. Based on the reports they're kinda dirty and sketchy, definitely not my scene so will probably take a pass. But for those into that sorta thing, diamonds in the rough are available and prices nice and low, Vagabundo mentioned Gina Valentina clones for 200 real so might sample at least once LOL.
9- it looks like the busiest days are weekdays, Tues-Thurs. Sundays look dead, Monday is slow, Fri / Sat can be 50/50.
I'd also note I love the club style that's why I think I'll like Termas. I used to hit these places in Gangnam where non-Koreans were usually never ever allowed but my K buddy vouched for me, it was like a club style but you could fuck several girls on the open floor before sessioning with the girl you picked! Got me hooked. But the price was pretty steep LOL, like $200-300 USD depending on the place.
Is this about accurate? I got questions for someone of my particular age and tastes.
1- Further to Point 7 what are places like Perola and Paris like? What are the ideal times to go to them / bang girls / pull numbers? I like the idea of re-enacting my college days and picking up cuties but fucking somewhere cleaner than the alley! Let me know I'm curious.
2- With Tues-Thurs being busiest, where does one go the other days of the week or are termas / boates still worth it on such days? I plan on also setting up pernoites for the going rate of 300-700 reals, I don't mind some white guy taxes if the girl is cool. Convenience is fine other people have their opinions but that's how I've always rolled in SK / Japan (though in those countries there's much more negative racial beliefs, they really don't like foreigners).
3- Looks like guys are getting BBFS. In East Asia this was sometimes standard for guys of a certain category but almost never for gaijin, sometimes I got it and it blew my mind. Have usually been clean myself but looks like in Brazil it can be done if you click with the girl / see her a few times and are clean and polite but of course YMMV and also make sure to be careful. Would love to find a cute Jessie Rogers clone and dump inside her a lot though!! That kind of Loira is def my type.
Thanks gents in advance. I hope I'm not too much of an asshole noob / gringo.
Vm is open 24/7/365 with 18 year old Bare holes for 16 dollars.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2593978]Is VM "open" during the daytime? Meaning, is there a selection of garotas to be had? Is the selection better, worse or equal to the night crowd? I've only ever been at night, so I really don't know. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
I scanned the posts to avoid asking dumb stuff: but have a question:
What is the real world cost for a 40-60 year old no pre-existing conditions health insurance in Rio as opposed to SUS? Any price / age ranges data would be great, it is hard to imagine it could even close to the fucked up USA predatory system. Finally, I may get down to RIO next week, looks like via Panama is the fastest and I've found COPA to be a pretty good airline. I look forward to an Alcatraz like escape from USA sex prison and catch up with many of the esteemed folks here from some clothing free cultural exchanges with the local girls.
VM takeout to a hotel seems an excellent idea, teen BB, and for the more cautious, Emtricitabine / Tenofovir Disoproxil 200/300 MG PO qD and usual caveats on STD's.
So I met her at the shell at Metro Jardim Oceanico. We took a taxi back to the love shack at Transmerica. The girls love the balcony for pictures, with the nice view of the condominiums of barra as a backdrop. We had some food she ordered, excellent rosti, which made my Swiss heart skip a beat.
We fucked for like an hour or more. We watched the Ana foxxx / kira noir / mike adriano scene, but actually the main show was her 20 year old pussy. The fucking was enhanced by hashish.
We then watched Django Unchained on Netflix with Porto audio and subtitles which she loved. Tarantino is a winner. If any real porn types are watching this just imitate Tarantino. Boom. Instant winner.
We slept, and fucked in the morning. BBFSCIP.
Stargazer went back to Paris and wifed up the blond for the rest of his trip. He is in my hall of fame of wingmen, along with Jimmy Boy -- IE, Bob Guccione's accountant and a Swiss Bank Regulator -- who is in town.
The blond at Paris Cafe -- I shall designate her callsign Ivanka -- is top shelf. To put to rest all of our lesbo fantasies, we should probably have Ivanka and Melania do a threesome with Vagabundo, in the interest of world peace, and to add a book of Deuteronomy, not to mention another Hemingway novel.
First time to Rio. Cartagena monger and love it but want to try the legendary Rio. Anyone know of a boots on the ground guy in Rio for advice and direction. If so please pm name and what he or she charges if you know. Will be staying in Copa Beach area. Tourist. Place sounds good. Especially the clubs. Is it really dead on the weekends. Strange. And is the best time early evening. Reports on here are great but since I have never been there, the references are a little hard to follow. Like, what is a branca girl.
[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2594907]Reports on here are great but since I have never been there, the references are a little hard to follow. Like, what is a branca girl.[/QUOTE]Compare with your Spanish, blanca. Branca.
Stargazer and I took our girls from Paris to the beach at Copa and for overnights.
I set a rate of 2000 reais per week for 3 or 4 pernoites. I paid for some food ($200 or so at Trattoria), Stargazer picked up alot of the tab at the beach, we split churrascuria at a nice place $300 for my half, and then I have my long legged morena clara over at the love shack after a few ubers for $100 or so, and some food, for another $100. She's 23, and looks like a young Melania. Stargazer's blond is like a young Ivanka. It's all covered at this point, but we need to go get some pharmaceuticals or tests or something, then it will be BBFS.
All is well.
So, there are several reasons I hate copa:
1. The hotel Astoria palace refused to let me and my girl back up to the hotel rooftop bar pool after we left. The goddamn hookers had to go get cigarettes and smoke weed. Jesus H Christ. So we are walking around copa buying cigarettes one at time. No, that means I, Vagabundo, am paying some stupid price for single cigarettes because these are nicotine addicts.
2. So, then we have an expensive meal at trattoria.
3. The girls need each other because the other wingman can't speak Porto. So, between fucking, she is bored out of her skull. And they need each other to keep company.
4. At the beach every fucking scumball vendor comes up and hits on our women, and of course, we get raped on pricing.
5. All that second hand smoke. Smoking again irritates my lungs, and after a day of smoking I am coughing.
6. Red meat. Generally I don't eat it. Wingman thinks churrasco is a must, so, fine. $300 on a churrasco for me and my girl. Not the money so much as the heavy gut after all that red meat. Not good for fucking.
7. the rude hotel staff at astoria palace. I put them on blast. Avoid Astoria Palace. Shitty hotel. Transamerica is good. Hotel Atlantico Tower is good. F' this hotel, Astoria palace.
8. Condoms. My date, Melania, says we will be barebacking next week. Thank fucking god. I hate hate hate condoms. With all the rest (red meat, alcohol, cigarettes), this has been a sub optimal day for fucking as cardio training. It just sucks to have to fight all these terrible health practices.
[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2594907]Reports on here are great but since I have never been there, the references are a little hard to follow. Like, what is a branca girl.[/QUOTE]If you are reading this, you have the most powerful information device ever created right at your fingertips.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2594368]I scanned the posts to avoid asking dumb stuff: but have a question:
What is the real world cost for a 40-60 year old no pre-existing conditions health insurance in Rio as opposed to SUS? [/QUOTE]I asked my girl that works at the health department in Rio. She does not have insurance, so she in-turn asked her friend that sells insurance. Instead of returning something simple, she ran the numbers. There is a wide range of plans and prices as you can see.
Very useful info, seems to converge around R500 per month. But other factors come into play, like a universal single buyer / regulated drug buying scheme to prevent rip offs (same as Singapore, AU and many other countries) and basic universal emergency care. Another reason BR offers a vastly better quality of life in certain non-touristy places.
I just looked online at USA hookers: fat, ugly, tatoos and expensive, I only want to rent it, not buy it.
I last had a cigarette 30 years ago when out at a bar my buddies bet me I couldn't get a date with a hot chick who was chain smoking. Often have told working girls if you want to make serious money, stop smoking. Today, no matter how hot the girl, if I smell smoke I pass. I usually ask, do you smoke after sex and if she answers, I don't know, I never looked, then I know I have a winner. Trust that there are many non-smoking girls in Rio. Just say no.
I had my girl from Paris over to my place. We hit olegario with her friend for drinks, which were 74 r for 4 at a Mexican place. We then got some liquor at a package store. We came back to my place, and the girls had a time of it playing music and drinking. I was on red bull and Gatorade. We fucked at night and the morning. Paid her 500.
In researching for my Winter return to Rio I saw that on google Mab's was "temporarily closed" although as I write this it looks normal again.
Anyone know the straight dirt on that?
Follow up question: any one of my experienced homies care to do a brief rundown of the realities of mongering in Rio during the Christmas and New Years holiday season?
I already know it's going to be a rip off and girls will be gone before and after Christmas. The airbnb prices for New Year's week are just ridiculous. Straight Ridiculous. I'm imagining freelancers knock up prices as well as domestic and international tourists flock to Copa and Ipanema in large numbers.
I have been to Rio and SP several times. Have been terribly missing these two heaven on earth.
I am vaccinated (Pfizer).
Want to get some inputs / guidance of precautions / fear / no-fear. Justification of enjoying in these clubs with Covid going around. I know this may be a buzz-kill question. So please don't beat me up. Haha.
I am very eager to understand what are the various logic both scientific as well as non-scientific for mongering with Covid around all of us.
I have been terribly quiet since March 2020. No action at all and is killing me.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2595921]In researching for my Winter return to Rio I saw that on google Mab's was "temporarily closed" although as I write this it looks normal again. Anyone know the straight dirt on that?[/QUOTE]Don't know when that was from. A buddy just put up a picture of Mabs the other day with some new flags and shit hanging up. Maybe they closed for the day to do that decorating.
(I jacked his pic.)
While I normally go to Tijuca massage parlors on Saturdays, the selection hasn't been too much to my taste lately so tried out some Copa ones. Went first to Delirio; only three girls available for the presentation, but the third one, Bruna, a pretty, bubbly, mulatta with a great slim body, pert small be tits, and nice firm ass, stood out. Asked to speak to her to ask what she did; she said everything. Told her I never come so could and would she fuck for the whole session? Yes. Asked her if she kissed; she DFKd me on the spot. Sold.
Receptionist said t was 180 real for the hour. Showed her I was a member of and poster on gparena.net so the rate should be 150, to which she agreed. Paid the receptionist the 150 real for the hour, took a shower, and waited for her to arrive. She undressed and she looked even better than before. Started my music program to do some dry humping but she was so hot to trot that I cut it short and went straight to me massaging her back, legs, pussy, and ass, which she really enjoyed, moaning with pleasure. (Found out later she only works there on Saturdays; the rest of the week she works in a non-sex terepia doing actual massages. Must of have been funny to her for her to be be massaged instead of her doing the massage.).
Turned her over to kiss, suck her tits, and then lick her pussy but she was so worked up that she didn't last more than a couple of minutes of my licking her clit before she exploded in an orgasm, rested a bit, and went to pee.
When she came back she started a BBBJ for a few minutes but I could see that she wanted to fuck so I put on the condom and she jumped on my dick and rode it for probably 15 minutes, kissing like a madwoman, until she came again, and went out to pee again. She came back and we did missionary until the time was over, with her moaning with pleasure the whole time.
A fantastic session and would repeat but am going to Sao Paulo this week so it will have to wait until my return, maybe in November.
Side note: checked out the 583 NSC parlors. The one in the Sobreloja is gone; apparently the rent became too much to stay in business. Eden Spa had 2-3 girls that I might have gone with had I not just finished with Bruna.
During the holidays many of the places like Mabs (or Transamerica, haha) turn into ghost towns. I had a regular, Monique, come over on Christmas day, and we did our usual pernoite / perdia for $250 (she has negotiated up to $400), and we went to holiday lunch at a nice churrascuria place at Olegario Maciel. But most of the working girls at Transamerica disappear on viagems until about 1/15. Since it is summer, many are going to the beach resorts, IE, buzios.
At that time, prices go up crazy. Not a problem if you are a monthly (mensal) renter, but the local landlords like to jack up the rent by 100% if they can. Fuck them. Well, I am planning logistically to just stay through again. At least until next fall (IE, April / March) as the spring, summer, fall is the time to be here in Brazil. I may need to get back to the Northern Hemisphere for the Rio Winter. This planning is somewhat exchange rate dependent.
Anyway, it would be good to see more of your Conrad-esque writing here on this board. You could write about blonds getting fucked up their asses in tier 1 termas to please all the sports fans here, haha. Oh. And I will PM you on some other items. Best, Vagabundo.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2595921]In researching for my Winter return to Rio I saw that on google Mab's was "temporarily closed" although as I write this it looks normal again.
Anyone know the straight dirt on that?
Follow up question: any one of my experienced homies care to do a brief rundown of the realities of mongering in Rio during the Christmas and New Years holiday season?
I already know it's going to be a rip off and girls will be gone before and after Christmas. The airbnb prices for New Year's week are just ridiculous. Straight Ridiculous. I'm imagining freelancers knock up prices as well as domestic and international tourists flock to Copa and Ipanema in large numbers.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I am finding girls who don't smoke too much yet. Like Ana Foxxx.
This new girl, Melania Trump, is great though, so I will put up with it for a while.
The damn red bulls too give me so much gas, I was de-inflating the whole next 24 hours.
These girls in the life are so fucking unhealthy. It is like dating a crack working girl who smokes, drinks, eats the worst food.
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2595519]I last had a cigarette 30 years ago when out at a bar my buddies bet me I couldn't get a date with a hot chick who was chain smoking. Often have told working girls if you want to make serious money, stop smoking. Today, no matter how hot the girl, if I smell smoke I pass. I usually ask, do you smoke after sex and if she answers, I don't know, I never looked, then I know I have a winner. Trust that there are many non-smoking girls in Rio. Just say no.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2595224]So, there are several reasons I hate copa:
1. The hotel Astoria palace refused to let me and my girl back up to the hotel rooftop bar pool after we left. The goddamn hookers had to go get cigarettes and smoke weed. Jesus H Christ. So we are walking around copa buying cigarettes one at time. No, that means I, Vagabundo, am paying some stupid price for single cigarettes because these are nicotine addicts.
.[/QUOTE]With the exception that it was after 10 PM, I can't think of any reason why they would not allow someone who was staying at the hotel the ability to go up on the roof deck. What did they tell you was the reason?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2595996]Don't know when that was from. A buddy just put up a picture of Mabs the other day with some new flags and shit hanging up. Maybe they closed for the day to do that decorating.
(I jacked his pic.)[/QUOTE]The flags have been there for a while now, since July if I remember correctly.
Monday, Groundhog day.
Farewell, Stargazer, who left for another continent today. We will be looking forward to your return.
Another wingman, Bach, came into town, and Vagabundo being a gentleman, got him on target with the ever in demand Stephany.
The truth is that group mongering in the prives is not a great way to get your own top picks. I'd bang Stephany every day, but there are a few falsa magra (lean, tall) morena claras like her on the prive market.
Last week Vagabundo banged something like 8 girls -- 3 prive girls, two pernoite BBFS regulars, and a new girl, Melania, who was his first girl at a terma, Paris Cafe in Barra. Well, I guess that's 6, but most were multiple nights, like Melania, who was 3 nights, and the pernoite girls, who were hours of continuous sex at night and the morning. Vagabundo is oversexed a little.
So, Monday started as most weekdays do for Vagabundo who is working on his writing career with Penthouse Letters: an omelette at the restaurant, at which a guy asks, "are you vagabundo?" So, this is a friend from Lucerne, and we will be ISG battle buddies in Transamerica for a few weeks. Then Vagabundo goes to the gym, does some clean and jerks, and then to the pool to hit the heavy bag. Then Vagabundo goes upstairs to his room, grabs some cash, and heads back down to catch the 9 h15 bus.
Vagabundo gets off at a Copacabana hotel to meet up with a new in town ISG member. They head to bang Stephany and the usual suspects. Vagabundo picks a girl with big natural tits, and who doesn't smoke -- so I need to put her in the pernoite rotation, as discussed.
Then we monger with a monger buddy who I had been calling Walkon but who thinks his callsign should be Bighead, which is fine, as well as Bach, over to the Casa Bombeiros, which won't sell any branded stuff anymore. Due to vagabundo of course, and if you're reading this, well, haha. Then we mongered around centro a little, caught ubers back to Copa, and that was the day in baseball.
Everyone comments on my writing, all the poems and such, and here again, is something for lasting artistic value. From a man named Kipling.
If you can keep your head when all about you.
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you.
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you.
But make allowance for their doubting too;.
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting.
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies.
Or being hated, don't give way to hating.
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster.
And treat those two impostors just the same;.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken.
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools.
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken.
And stoop and build 'them up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings.
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss.
And lose, and start again at your beginnings.
And never breathe a word about your loss;.
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew.
To serve your turn long after they are gone.
And so hold on when there is nothing in you.
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue.
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch.
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you.
If all men count with you, but none too much;.
If you can fill the unforgiving minute.
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run.
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it.
And—which is more—you'll be a Man, my son!
Well, I was a guest of Stargazer, and I had a girl, so he had 3 guests.
But fuck it, you know what, the four of us -- Stargazer and his girl from Paris Cafe and me and my girl from Paris Cafe -- did in fact party at Transamerica on Saturday night in my suite, with a awesome view of the beach at Barra, which is a much, much better fucking view of the ocean that Copa anyway. Cheaper too.
Logistically, Stargazer and Ivanka trump went to a local (barra) love motel to fuck in the mid afternoon between -- the Dunas Motel. He gave it a thumbs up.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2596205]With the exception that it was after 10 PM, I can't think of any reason why they would not allow someone who was staying at the hotel the ability to go up on the roof deck. What did they tell you was the reason?[/QUOTE]
The owner / manager of 4 x 4 is now married (he said it was due to covid lockdowns) in a 4 bed apartment in Tijuca, for which he pays 5000 a month. That's the guy who is the manager of the club we all go to for short time fucking, pay for play.
Or is there a better place to stay for mongering. Visit shaping up for November.
[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2596621]Or is there a better place to stay for mongering. Visit shaping up for November.[/QUOTE]As of last visit, Pestana Rio Atlntica was guest-friendly. It's a decent hotel- great views from pool and moderately priced. A lot of guys prefer to stay closer to Av Princesa Isabel. Astoria Palace Hotel has been mentioned.
For first visit, I’d stay in Copacabana.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2595921]In researching for my Winter return to Rio I saw that on google Mab's was "temporarily closed" although as I write this it looks normal again.
Anyone know the straight dirt on that?
Follow up question: any one of my experienced homies care to do a brief rundown of the realities of mongering in Rio during the Christmas and New Years holiday season?
I already know it's going to be a rip off and girls will be gone before and after Christmas. The airbnb prices for New Year's week are just ridiculous. Straight Ridiculous. I'm imagining freelancers knock up prices as well as domestic and international tourists flock to Copa and Ipanema in large numbers.[/QUOTE]I'm currently in Rio and Mabs is open. Some freelancers, not to much traffic, very few monger tourists currently, found some reasonable talent here the past 4 nights, price range is between 150 -300/ h. The skinny beauty branca I desperately wanted to fuck was insisting like a Rolex on 300 exactly per hour, if I want to come twice its 600 and so on. Beautiful bullshit-.
I am watching Netflix, "Outside the wire" with Monique, on a BBFS pernoite (400). A good night! She is my kind of girl. Any girl who picks " outside the wire" is a keeper. Holy Shit, I think I am in love. She probably likes it because the heroes are black, like her, and the action just looks like the Jacarizinho fire fights.
[QUOTE=Combo;2596655]As of last visit, Pestana Rio Atlntica was guest-friendly. It's a decent hotel- great views from pool and moderately priced. A lot of guys prefer to stay closer to Av Princesa Isabel. Astoria Palace Hotel has been mentioned.
For first visit, Id stay in Copacabana.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
Monique and I went to the beach and picked up a swinger couple and had a orgy.
I paid 350 for drinks at the beach.
It was great BBFS on her, a Loira, like 3 hours of fucking her raw dog in front of her husband. I guess he used condoms on Monique.
Furthermore, we fucked at the beach. Well, Monique and the Loira we will call her Seka, both sucked my dick, and her husband's. Groups of locals surrounded us like dogs with hard ONS. But since I brought my girl, I got a negra an Seka to suck my German dick. I was ordering maracuja juice, and buying Monique drinks, and we were smoking, and skinny dipping. There were actually some girls, some quite hot, but it was a kind of party atmosphere. It was very Brazilian libertine.
I was guilty of blowing off chayachecker for dinner, but we were having an orgy at. Well 19 h to 22 h. I must have fucked Seka for about 3 hours total. I tied her up with boxing wraps. It was wild. The couple live out in Cabo Frio, and we may be visiting. Haha.
Oh, I pay Monique 400 pernoite, which is quite good, but as mentioned, she is a good festa swing partner. Seka had to suck on Monique's negra pussy, and vice versa.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2597696]Monique and I went to the beach and picked up a swinger couple and had a orgy.
I paid 350 for drinks at the beach.
It was great BBFS on her, a Loira, like 3 hours of fucking her raw dog in front of her husband. I guess he used condoms on Monique.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2597696]Monique and I went to the beach and picked up a swinger couple and had a orgy.
I paid 350 for drinks at the beach.
It was great BBFS on her, a Loira, like 3 hours of fucking her raw dog in front of her husband. I guess he used condoms on Monique.[/QUOTE]Did you go to?
Abrico.
I must say it was great. I haven't gotten a new girl since that night, day after when I fucked Monique a few times and sent her home. It makes me interested anew in non pro MILFs (seka has two kids). I have some pics of Seka eating out Monique which I will clean up to blank out faces and post here. The native Brazilians are fucking, fucking, fucking.
A guy there with two mulata / negras, one of whose number I got, suggested hotel girassol, which is in jacaparagua, and is culturally in the criminal jungle, and probably has some great sex parties.
I would suggest going to one of those with a Nascar t-shirt might not be a good fashion move, haha.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2598006]Did you go to?[/QUOTE]
I had initially booked a 3 night trip to SP after having a blast in June. A couple of weeks before my trip, I decided to turn it into a 4 night Brazil trip, with 2 nights in RJ and 2 in SP.
RT between SP and RJ are cheap and I had the added benefit of arriving at each city via the domestic airport, which is a lot closer to the city and their international airports. I flew GOL and got tickets from GRU to SDU and SDU to CGH for $60 USD. I then paid about $10 USD each way to get into their premium economy seats in the first row, which was totally worth it.
A quick Uber from SDU to my hotel in Copa and I was ready to start exploring by 1 pm. None of the tier 1 Termas I wanted to hit was open yet so I walked around the beach and did some shopping near by. As it was winter time (still not too cold at 75 F) and very cloudy with intermittent showers, the beach was empty. I stopped by a local Brazilian restaurant near the hotel for lunch and then a nap until Solarium opened.
Solarium:. Wednesday afternoon, August 2021.
I dropped by there at 4 pm and the nice receptionist who spoke great English asked if it was my first time there and I said yes. She explained how it works and gave me the price list and then a key. It is sort of similar to Germany FKKs, as you change out of your clothes into a robe and slippers. I read that it was okay to keep your undies on, which I did. As I had showered at the hotel, I skipped it here, but their lockers and shower facilities looked okay. Similar to Sharks in Frankfurt. Due to covid, their masseuse and sauna wasn't available.
The whiseria on the second floor was where the girls congregated. The space was very small, probably smaller than 1,000 sq ft. There was a bar on one end with about 3-4 stools, and the room had seating along the walls for probably 20 people. I was quite shocked that this is what is considered a tier 1 Terma in RJ as it was so small. It is even much smaller than the smallest FKK in Frankfurt area (1/5th the size of Mainhattan and maybe 1/20th the size of Sharks).
There were about 8 girls and I was the only customer. The talent was just okay with mostly 6-7's and a couple of 8's. So comparable to a SP clinica, but with an entrance fee and about 3 x the cost for 60 min. The body type was mostly big Ts and As.
As I was the only guy there, a few girls came up to say Hi, but none spoke English so they soon retreated to their spot to make sexy faces at me. One of the two 8's that I was considering, sat at the stool next to me at the bar and tried to have a conversation with me, but we ran into a language barrier so she pulled out the Google translate. The conversation quickly went from small talk to aggressive flirtiness, where she promised to rock my world in bed. She then gave me a preview by grinding on my lap and then have me some very sensual DFK. She can tell it was working as I got hard fast and we agreed to go to the room.
In the room, she delivered on her promise as she was very passionate and energetic throughout. I have good endurance so we were at it for the whole hour and she never tapped out. She wanted me to extend our time but I had dinner reservations at a 2 Michelin star restaurant with a friend in the evening so took her Whatsapp for potential date later.
I forgot exact cost, but I think I paid R8-900 for admission, 1 drink and 60 min in their "suite" with a girl. I paid cash, as it would have been 10% more with CC.
I had one of the best meals of my life that night at Oro in Leblon and planned to take a brief nap at hotel before heading back out at 11 or 12 to MC or Centaurus. However, I slept right through my alarm, but recovered nicely from jet lag for the next day.
It was crappy weather on Thursday with rain and clouds and I started kicking myself for not doing the tourist stuff the day before. I wanted to see Christ the Redeemer and the hotel concierge said the best way to do it is via the official can. I spent the morning riding to the mountain and was expecting it to be a bust for sure due to near zero visibility. But figure I get to at least get a pic with the statue and get it of my bucket list. I got super lucky as the sky opened up for about 5 min while I was at the top and I got a beautiful view of the city and coastline below. I then headed to Leblon for lunch and then to Monte Carlo at around 4.
Monte Carlo:. Thursday afternoon, August 2021.
I found MC to be similar to Solarium in terms of facilities and size (even a bit smaller! I saw 3 girls and they are all just 6-7 in looks. After staying for 10 min and seeing no new girls, I went to the front desk to ask how many are currently there. She mentioned just the 3, but 12-15 are expected in the evening. She said if I want to return later, there would be no additional admission charge. I paid the R120 and said I would come back after dinner.
Centaurus: Thursday afternoon, August 2021.
I then hopped in an Uber to Centaurus and was immediately more impressed by their facilities. Reminds me of FKK Oase. Unfortunately, their whiseria isn't much bigger than the other two tier 1 Termas. There were about 10 girls working at 5 pm and they were a little better than Solarium the previous night, but nothing to go wow over. There were a few more 8's and maybe 1 8. 5.
I chatted up with a MILF who introduced herself and she spoke great English. Although she wasn't really my type, she had great eyes and was very friendly. We sat and chatted for a bit before she asked if I wanted to go to the room. I asked if she had any limitations and whether she would be okay doing most of the work as I was still jetlagged. She nodded in the affirmative so I took her to the room. I found her to be too gentle for my taste. Her BBBJ was mediocre, held her hand near the condom all the time and positioned herself to prevent maximum penetration. She also didn't have the best endurance and wouldn't do CIM. I eventually finished COB and went to dinner with my friend at another Michelin star restaurant. Total damage was just under R1,000 for 60 min and 2 drinks.
Monte Carlo:. Thursday evening, August 2021.
After our tremendous meal at Restaurant Mee, my buddy and I headed over MC. There were 15 girls in house, although I only saw 13. None of them were better than a 7 and most were 5-6's. We had a drink and called it a night.
4 x4:. Thursday evening, August 2021.
I couldn't sleep after going back to the hotel so after an hour, I gave up and headed to 4 x4. I arrived just after midnight and explored the club. Everyone was clothed so maybe the Termas part is only during the day. The place reminded me of a smaller Adelitas in Tijuana. It had 2 levels and there were a lot more girls here than any of the other tier 1 Termas I've been to. About 25-30, most in the 6-7's and a few 8's. There were quite a few gringos there and I think Vagabundo might have been in the house (something I learned after I left Rio). I had tried to hook up with him upon arrival in RJ, but I think I didn't give him enough of a heads-up about my arrival so it's my fault that the logistics didn't work out. I appreciate his poetic P4 P advice and still want to get him that drink.
There was one light skin negra / mulata that I was interested in but she didn't speak English. We used Google translate and worked out a 3 hour session to the hotel for R800. I was told the house charges R1,000 to take a girl out. I was not going to pay R1,000 + R800, but I think there was a miscommunication. I think it was min R1,000 for a pernoite. R400 for house now and minimum R600 for the girl, but she can negotiate for more.
R1,200 (R400 plus the R800 we agreed on) is still very steep from what I've read here, but with the great exchange rate, I said fuck it and took her back to the hotel. She was an okay fuck, but nothing mind-blowing.
I leave RJ with mixed feelings. I know I didn't go at the best times with it being winter and being unlucky with bad weather. All of that and me going to two of the better termas during the afternoon rather than evening definitely contributed to a subpar experience. It says a lot that my two meals are Oro and Restaurant were the highlights of the RJ portion of this trip.
I found the talent and service at the tier 1 Termas to be only comparable to the clinicas of SP, but at 3-4 x the price. I also think Porto or a good local guide is more important in RJ as compared to SP. I know those who have the time and Porto skills can do things a lot better and cheaper in RJ than I did, but I lack both.
There are still so much more to explore in RJ, and I hope to return to give it another go in the future.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2598321]Abrico.
I must say it was great. I haven't gotten a new girl since that night, day after when I fucked Monique a few times and sent her home. It makes me interested anew in non pro MILFs (seka has two kids). I have some pics of Seka eating out Monique which I will clean up to blank out faces and post here. The native Brazilians are fucking, fucking, fucking.
A guy there with two mulata / negras, one of whose number I got, suggested hotel girassol, which is in jacaparagua, and is culturally in the criminal jungle, and probably has some great sex parties.[/QUOTE]I think I stumbled across that beach on my date to the Classico Beach Club this past trip. I didn't know they had full on orgies / sex parties. Looked to me like a bunch of creepy German nudists. How do you find out about when the bacchanalia breaks out or is it just show up and hope for the best?
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2598345]
I leave RJ with mixed feelings. I know I didn't go at the best times with it being winter and being unlucky with bad weather. All of that and me going to two of the better termas during the afternoon rather than evening definitely contributed to a subpar experience. It says a lot that my two meals are Oro and Restaurant were the highlights of the RJ portion of this trip.
I found the talent and service at the tier 1 Termas to be only comparable to the clinicas of SP, but at 3-4 x the price. I also think Porto or a good local guide is more important in RJ as compared to SP. I know those who have the time and Porto skills can do things a lot better and cheaper in RJ than I did, but I lack both.
There are still so much more to explore in RJ, and I hope to return to give it another go in the future.[/QUOTE]One reason for your disappointment is that you compare two different things. Tier 1 termas (or termas in general) don't exist in SP, so you should compare clinicas with prives. I'm not very familiar with Sampa, but from my limited experience I found the prices to be roughly on par with Rio. Tier 1 Termas, just like clubs, tend to be more expensive since they add an element of socializing in a nice enough environment. The fact is you can go to terma with your buddies and enjoy adult entertainment without ever taking a girl to the room. Which is not the case with clinicas / prives / massagems.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2598345]Monte Carlo:. Thursday evening, August 2021.
There was one light skin negra / mulata that I was interested in but she didn't speak English. We used Google translate and worked out a 3 hour session to the hotel for R800. I was told the house charges R1,000 to take a girl out. I was not going to pay R1,000 + R800, but I think there was a miscommunication. I think it was min R1,000 for a pernoite. R400 for house now and minimum R600 for the girl, but she can negotiate for more.
R1,200 (R400 plus the R800 we agreed on) is still very steep from what I've read here, but with the great exchange rate, I said fuck it and took her back to the hotel. She was an okay fuck, but nothing mind-blowing.
[/QUOTE]Please do not pay to take girls out of a termas in Rio. Don't even enter into a discussion about it. In general, I do not believe in cutting out the middleman, but when you walk in the door at a termas, the middleman has been paid. If you use facilities on site for your session they are compensated for that as well. For emphasis, [B]please do not pay to take girls out of a termas in Rio[/B].
[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2598551]Please do not pay to take girls out of a termas in Rio. Don't even enter into a discussion about it. In general, I do not believe in cutting out the middleman, but when you walk in the door at a termas, the middleman has been paid. If you use facilities on site for your session they are compensated for that as well. For emphasis, [B]please do not pay to take girls out of a termas in Rio[/B].[/QUOTE]Agreed. It's completely unnecessary. If you want to see them outside the Termas, have them visit you before or after their shift or on their day off. And of course test-drive them in the Termas first.
I arrived in Rio today for 3 days. My intentions are to get a feel of the place, although in a rather short visit, and figure out if my next Brazil visit should be scheduled more heavily towards Rio rather than SP.
I flew in threw SDU. I arrived and walked outside embargos, then headed left to the pick up point for Uber. My driver dropped me off at the JW Marriott in Copacabana, and almost left with my luggage in the trunk when I got off, but I think it was an honest mistake, just thought it was a funny way to start my trip here.
I noticed the foul smell in the city during my drive in, but got used to it quick. Everyone has been telling me about how dangerous it is to walk around, but IMO it's fine. Sure, you see a lot of suspect characters in the streets but it's no different than other Latin American countries, just keep your eyes and ears open. I settled down in the hotel and went out to eat and explore a little.
It's a party out by the beach, plenty of eye candy to go around. I walked towards MABS and it seemed dead, but it's a Sunday, plus it's a rainy day. I ate at one of the local restaurants called Balada Mix and it was pretty good. I see more gringos here than in SP. I bought some basics in a local supermarket then decided I wanted to release some stress.
I shot a couple of messages to online girls this afternoon, since most other places are closed. I got to meet Ariel Mansur from Barravipsrio, she answered rather quickly on WhatsApp and we met at her place near the Hilton Copacabana. Damage was 500 Reals for the hour. She had a nice body, big butt and silicone big tits. Her face was pretty and her eyes had a caramel color that I really liked. She fucked good in many positions and gave a good BBBJ, we did it in her coach and bed. Her place was not upscale, rather low end. But she had a good attitude and conversation easy, idk if I'm getting better at understanding Porto or she spoke slow but I had no problem keeping a conversation with her. Only downside is she only allowed 1 shot, and I kind of wanted two since this would be my only kill for the day.
I walked back to the hotel, enjoyed the Copa scenery and then it started raining. The place has a charm, and I can see why people like it. It's not for everyone, but I think I could get used to hanging out here. Tomorrow I hope to visit some Terapias and hit Termas late afternoon and at night. I'm hoping to meet some forum members, but I know Monday and Tuesday are not prime days so I'll settle for what's available. I'll report back my findings.
Monique likes the nude beach, so I go with it.
As I recall you said you went with a terma girl who didn't want to go to the nude beach.
Monique and I always joke around about "I will buy you a branca escrava" . I was totally riffing on that dirty talk the whole time I banged seka -- and she loved it.
There are plenty of swing clubs which are similar. Club Mix Bar is in Praca Xv.
As I've written about, if you go further down the coast in this area, you will find Marambaia Pousada and Cafe, which are excellent.
It is not for everyone. You would have to go with a girl who likes to go to a nude beach, and who likes to swing. The couple we picked up too were a guy who works for a pharma company, Cimed, so I felt like they were fairly safe. Seka was a hot fuck. I drilled her for like 3 hours. At one point she took my dick and put it up her ass to finish. It's 3 days later, and I am still in the afterglow, haha. Plus I sprained my ankle somehow, haha.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2598363]I think I stumbled across that beach on my date to the Classico Beach Club this past trip. I didn't know they had full on orgies / sex parties. Looked to me like a bunch of creepy German nudists. How do you find out about when the bacchanalia breaks out or is it just show up and hope for the best?[/QUOTE]
I was sitting at a table in Mabs with some Americans and one of the guys at the table told us he had been working remotely in Rio for over 2 years. I asked him how he got around the visa issue and he said he enrolled in Portuguese school (he admitted that it is basically a front. He only goes to class once a week for an hour) he said he paid the school and they handled his student visa for him.
After he left, we kept talking about working remotely in Brasil and one guy who has been in Rio for over 1 year (he hosts a podcast) said "There are no more tourist visas in Brasil for Americans, why is that guy paying money to receive a student visa?" We talked for a while about whether or not the 90/180 day time periods still apply or not but none of us knew the answer.
I am waiting to hear from my company whether we have to return to the office in September. If they decide that we can continue to work remotely, I an seriously thinking of renting an apartment for 6 months - 1 year in Rio.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2598900]After he left, we kept talking about working remotely in Brasil and one guy who has been in Rio for over 1 year (he hosts a podcast) said "There are no more tourist visas in Brasil for Americans, why is that guy paying money to receive a student visa?" We talked for a while about whether or not the 90/180 day time periods still apply or not but none of us knew the answer.[/QUOTE]Of course the time limit still applies. You don't get to waltz into a country and stay forever simply because you don't have to go through a formal visa process. When I entered the country last week the lady verbalized and wrote in my passport, "I am going to give you 90 days."
I guess unbeknownst to himself, that guy is in the country illegally. I sure hope it is not a travel podcast he is hosting if he can't even cover the basics of how long it is permissible to stay in a country for himself. All he has to do is open his passport and add the bottom right number to the day he entered the country. If he has been there longer, then he made a big boo-boo.
P.S. The stamp is the visa (permission to be in the country) although you do not have to go through a formal visa process. It is visa on arrival. In many countries that you go to, when you check into a hotel, they have to copy that stamp when making a copy of your passport to have documentation that you are in the country legally. If you are ever somewhere like Colombia and get stopped in the street, they want to see that stamp/visa/permission.
"The penalty of overstaying a tourist visa in Brazil is eight reais a day (the maximum is 800 reais). Visitors can either pay the fine when the leave Brazil or when they return. It is not possible to re enter Brazil is the penalty is not paid. You would also not be able to return to Brazil for six months."
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2598902]
"The penalty of overstaying a tourist visa in Brazil is eight reais a day (the maximum is 800 reais). Visitors can either pay the fine when the leave Brazil or when they return. It is not possible to re enter Brazil is the penalty is not paid. You would also not be able to return to Brazil for six months."[/QUOTE]Well. Sounds like I better catch up with that guy and ask how much Portuguese school costs.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2598949]Well. Sounds like I better catch up with that guy and ask how much Portuguese school costs.[/QUOTE]Also have to be careful of whether your company's WFH policy applies internationally. There are big tax implications of having an employee work outside the country. Most companies don't allow this. And most tech companies have an easy way of finding out.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2598949]Well. Sounds like I better catch up with that guy and ask how much Portuguese school costs.[/QUOTE]From what I've heard (including from an American guy who legitimately got a Brazilian student visa for a legit university course) you can't change a tourist visa to a student visa or even apply for it inside Brazil. I think Mr. E is right that the guy might be unwittingly staying illegally and will have to pay the fine when he tries to leave the country.
Or maybe this is yet another case of 'jeitinho' and it's all perfectly legit, LOL.
On the other hand, $800? Not really a big deal if there are no consequences other than a 6-month ban.
File as a bonafide non resident for an expat. At least for Americans, of whom I, as a Swiss Banker, have several.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2599041]Also have to be careful of whether your company's WFH policy applies internationally. There are big tax implications of having an employee work outside the country. Most companies don't allow this. And most tech companies have an easy way of finding out.[/QUOTE]
If you read the bubba boy guide, there is enough information for a smart sleuth to figure out how to easily stay as long as you want in Brazil.
Look up the places he suggests to learn Porto. Those places also teach English. Then, get a subscription to [URL]economist.com[/URL] and use that audio (8 hours a week) to teach english. I mean, if you are smart enough to log into ISG, this is easy to do.
TIAVoyage's excellent guide has been a guide for most newbies. Like stargazer who stayed at the same hotel. So be it. But somewhere between Bubba Boy (10 years in country) and TIA (45 days) is Vagabundo's guide. And Vagabundo advises you to:
Download all [URL]economist.com[/URL] audio (especially about Brazil).
Find rich Brazilians (hint, hint, leblon, gavea, barra, botafogo).
Charge them. 250 to 500 reais per hour to have you play said audio to them or their beautiful teenage daughters (you can't fuck them until after you give them a grade).
OK, now you may go back to all the other useless crap that normally occupies this list.
I took 500 reais out of Bradesco and my Schwab account is showing minus $96.41 for an exchange of 500/96.41= 5.1861. XE is showing an exchange rate of 5.1847 reais to 1 USD.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2599041]Also have to be careful of whether your company's WFH policy applies internationally. There are big tax implications of having an employee work outside the country. Most companies don't allow this. And most tech companies have an easy way of finding out.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct. I have been hitting a few tech forums to find out which VPN would be best so that my company doesn't know that I have left the states. The overwhelming response has been "If you have a VPN on your computer and you then log into your company's VPN, your connection will be so slow, you won't be able to get any work done.
Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony.
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why don't we?
We all know that people are the same wherever you go.
There is good and bad in everyone.
We learn to live, when we learn to give.
Each other what we need to survive, together alive.
Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony.
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord why don't we?
Ebony, ivory, living in perfect harmony.
Ebony, ivory, ooh.
We all know that people are the same wherever you go.
There is good and bad in everyone.
We learn to live, when we learn to give.
Each other what we need to survive, together alive.
Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony.
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord why don't we?
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why don't we.
Ebony, ivory, living in perfect harmony.
Ebony, ivory, living in perfect harmony.
Ebony, ivory, living in perfect harmony.
Ebony, ivory, living in perfect harmony.
Ebony, ivory, living in perfect harmony.
Ebony, ivory, living in perfect harmony.
Credit goes to General Palcon for the batteries which powered the mobile Ryobi light!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2598756]Monique likes the nude beach, so I go with it.
As I recall you said you went with a terma girl who didn't want to go to the nude beach.
Monique and I always joke around about "I will buy you a branca escrava" . I was totally riffing on that dirty talk the whole time I banged seka -- and she loved it.
There are plenty of swing clubs which are similar. Club Mix Bar is in Praca Xv.
As I've written about, if you go further down the coast in this area, you will find Marambaia Pousada and Cafe, which are excellent.
It is not for everyone. You would have to go with a girl who likes to go to a nude beach, and who likes to swing. The couple we picked up too were a guy who works for a pharma company, Cimed, so I felt like they were fairly safe. Seka was a hot fuck. I drilled her for like 3 hours. At one point she took my dick and put it up her ass to finish. It's 3 days later, and I am still in the afterglow, haha. Plus I sprained my ankle somehow, haha.[/QUOTE]
Very good work Vagabundo. I have a similar mission and try and include a black, caucasion and thai simultaneously, usually a big titted blondie that the other girls are curious about.
More living in harmony and living naturally and free. Enough of that and blowjobs and wars would be a thing of the past.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2599067]"If you have a VPN on your computer and you then log into your company's VPN, your connection will be so slow, you won't be able to get any work done.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure the VPN speed slowdown is cumulative. My guess is you will get the slower of the two.
So Sunday I only fucked an online girl, then came to the hotel with intentions of hitting the top floor bar and going from there, but it was raining so the bar closed early. I ended up calling it an early night, which was fine. My plan was to hit a Prive or two on Monday.
Yesterday I checked my to do list, and picked Dudas Massagens, they have a list of girls online. I cross referenced with GPArena, and picked a girl named Beatriz. I sent a WhatsApp to them, they replied and I said I'm on my way. When I arrived to 156 Rio Branco I saw a set of elevators that require access by scanning a card. The guy managing the area was friendly, I showed him the sala I was going to, 3320 and with his little English directed me to check in at a set of registration windows, where they took my passport to give me a visitors card. Then a nice lady walked me to the elevator, and told me to take one to the 32 floor, then get off and take the next one to the 33rd floor, she also spoke a little English. Super friendly people here.
I got to the Prive, entered a room where the lady handling the appointments is, and asked for Beatriz. It turns out this girl stays busy, and was only available for 30 min, which I accepted. I paid 90.00 Reals, LOL. Then was shown to another room, with a shower and a bed, it was clean enough and got a bagged towel. I got undressed and rinsed while Beatriz showed up. Then, a Loira about 1.75 m tall walked in, big butt and nice tits, pretty face. She said she's 27 years old. She had a baby scar, but man she is still banging. Her BBBJ was perfect, then put her pussy on my face and OMG it was delicious, she appeared to have an orgasm there. She put the cover on and we fucked in many positions, until she came again, and then I finished while grabbing that big ass.
Amazing value, I would repeat with Beatriz preferably for an hour. I walked around the area to familiarize myself. With time I feel I would enjoy visiting the surroundings, I can tell there are a lot of hidden gems here, many cuties walking around.
At night I headed to Termas 4 X 4. I wasn't convinced about going, but Señor Vagabundo suggested it might be good since at this time of the month Brazilians haven't been paid yet and it might be easier to pick a girl. So I arrived around 8:30 pm. The bottom floor where the whiskeria is was empty, I headed upstairs and got checked in. I opted not to wear a robe, then entered the small termas area. I counted about 25 girls and about as many guys, if not mire. Quality wise it was low, only about 1 or 2 girls I would do, they were 7. 5 in my book, and both busy. A couple of girls approached me and we had little talks, but I decided to wait.
More quality started showing up, then this spinner type girl with a fit body and nice round ass showed up, stood in front of my table showing me the goodies, then walked away. She came back around and did the same, so I grabbed her to talk. We had good chemistry, even with my limited Porto. She doesn't drink but we were enjoying our time, and more hotties showed up, at some point I felt tempted to consider an upgrade, but I'm glad I didn't. How do you all react to picking a girl to later see others come up that look better?
Now, we talked about a proposal, and my plan was to take her back to my hotel. We settled for 500.00 Reals for pernoite, but her shift was not over until midnight. I felt tempted to look into taking her out earlier, but held my ground. She was released at 11 pm anyways. She was a little worried about management seeing her leave with a client, so I waited for her a little down the street from the 4 X4 doors. She said she might get a multa if they find out.
I had an awesome night with her, fucked most of the night, did anal and busted a couple of nuts in the early hours. The only thing I couldn't convince her to do is BBFS, I could tell she wanted it too, I kept trying but she wouldn't budge. This morning we fucked again before she left to her daily life. What a great time I've had in Rio so far, with little money spent. I'm envious of the local guys with means to hobby weekly.
I leave back to SP tomorrow, so far I'm torn as to what city I like best. Clínicas are awesome, but Prives seem like a ridiculous value, and with time I can see newcomers being found there, and enjoyed before becoming popular. What a place to be.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2599296]
Now, we talked about a proposal, and my plan was to take her back to my hotel. We settled for 500.00 Reals for pernoite, but her shift was not over until midnight. I felt tempted to look into taking her out earlier, but held my ground. She was released at 11 pm anyways. She was a little worried about management seeing her leave with a client, so I waited for her a little down the street from the 4 X4 doors. She said she might get a multa if they find out.
.[/QUOTE]She was telling the truth. If the door man is watching and decides to snitch, the girl can get hit with a fine because the club didn't get their cut. Many nights, I had to wait around the corner and then jump into a cab.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2599372]She was telling the truth. If the door man is watching and decides to snitch, the girl can get hit with a fine because the club didn't get their cut. Many nights, I had to wait around the corner and then jump into a cab.[/QUOTE]To me it seems to be common sense, but maybe it is not. Is it really right to hang out at a cleaning company socializing with the employees all day then expect the boss would not have a problem if they come clean for you as soon as their shift is done? Have some tact and discretion people.
Somebody stop me, because I can not stop myself!
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2599041]Also have to be careful of whether your company's WFH policy applies internationally. There are big tax implications of having an employee work outside the country. Most companies don't allow this. And most tech companies have an easy way of finding out.[/QUOTE]This is very true. Same with the big banks. If you are going do this you need to set up a VPN to a thin client in the states and log into your work from that thin client. Also, use Google Fi to make and receive phone calls.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2599380]To me it seems to be common sense, but maybe it is not. Is it really right to hang out at a cleaning company socializing with the employees all day then expect the boss would not have a problem if they come clean for you as soon as their shift is done? Have some tact and discretion people.[/QUOTE]Glad you said it Mr E. I've seen foreign guys openly and loudly asking for digits at the termas. For fuck's sake, whisper in the girl's ear. Don't be pushing your phone in front of the girls.
It's obviously easier to get contact info back in the rooms with a girl who provides good service.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2599296]She doesn't drink but we were enjoying our time, and more hotties showed up, at some point I felt tempted to consider an upgrade, but I'm glad I didn't. How do you all react to picking a girl to later see others come up that look better?[/QUOTE]We've all been there. A hotter girl walks by and you immediately have a brief feeling of monger's remorse.
This is why I think establishing the vibe with a girl is so important. When I feel that positive vibe, I am usually locked-in as the performance usually matches the vibe. This sounds like a silly notion, but for me a 7 or 8 with personality and spunk almost always surpasses a hotter girl at the termas.
Question for you EB. You said when you arrived at 8:30 there were about 25 girls with no more than two 7.5's. How many 8 or 9's did you see later?
Given your time of arrival, I would say those hotter girls were likely busy upstairs with clients. Sometimes if they don't see a lot of guys doing sessions, they will wander around the club having their hair combed, doing make-up, etc. That's why I like to arrive before 6 pm. Of course, when you select a girl and when you session require some strategy.
Go to Asha in barra. The hottest girls are there. Straight 10's. And a fuck fest in the back rooms. Highly recommend.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2598756]There are plenty of swing clubs which are similar. Club Mix Bar is in Praca Xv.
As I've written about, if you go further down the coast in this area, you will find Marambaia Pousada and Cafe, which are excellent.
It is not for everyone. You would have to go with a girl who likes to go to a nude beach, and who likes to swing. The couple we picked up too were a guy who works for a pharma company, Cimed, so I felt like they were fairly safe. Seka was a hot fuck. I drilled her for like 3 hours. At one point she took my dick and put it up her ass to finish. It's 3 days later, and I am still in the afterglow, haha. Plus I sprained my ankle somehow, haha.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2598902]Of course the time limit still applies. You don't get to waltz into a country and stay forever simply because you don't have to go through a formal visa process. When I entered the country last week the lady verbalized and wrote in my passport, "I am going to give you 90 days." . . . [/QUOTE]That was awfully magnanimous of the Customs Officer to give you 90 days, considering that's the default initial tourist maximum (unless later extended another 90 days).
I'm I missing something, as to why she had to explicitly stated the 90 days to you? Could they have given you less than the 90 days?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2598902] "The penalty of overstaying a tourist visa in Brazil is eight reais a day (the maximum is 800 reais). Visitors can either pay the fine when the leave Brazil or when they return. It is not possible to re enter Brazil is the penalty is not paid. You would also not be
able to return to Brazil for six months." [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2599049] On the other hand, $800? Not really a big deal if there are no consequences other than a 6-month ban.[/QUOTE]Yep, neither penalty, isn't much of a deterrent to discourage any would be Carioca infidels, from overstaying their welcome.
Are there stiffer penalties that one might face or be applied, depending upon how egregious my illegal overstay might be?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2598902]
"The penalty of overstaying a tourist visa in Brazil is eight reais a day (the maximum is 800 reais). Visitors can either pay the fine when the leave Brazil or when they return. It is not possible to re enter Brazil is the penalty is not paid. You would also not be able to return to Brazil for six months."[/QUOTE]As far as I know, the overstay fine had been changed in 2017 to be much steeper. It's now [NOPARSE]R$100 per day with a maximum of R$10,000[/NOPARSE].
From this article:
[URL]https://paduanseta.jusbrasil.com.br/artigos/723662172/o-que-e-e-qual-o-valor-da-multa-por-permanencia-irregular-de-estrangeiro-no-brasil[/URL]
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O art. 108 da Nova Lei de Migrao apresenta o teto e o piso da multa, ou seja, o valor mximo que pode ser aplicado e o valor mnimo. Assim, para cada dia irregular no Brasil aplicada uma multa de R$100,00 e esse valor pode chegar ao teto de R$10.000,00. Ou seja, se o imigrante ficar mais de 100 dias irregular sobre o territrio brasileiro, o valor mximo cobrado ser o de R$10.000,00, invariavelmente.
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[QUOTE=Mimic86;2599407]Go to Asha in barra. The hottest girls are there. Straight 10's. And a fuck fest in the back rooms. Highly recommend.[/QUOTE]Are single guys allowed in? I live in the US and some club single guys are allowed in and others only single woman. I had pretty good success but I don't know if I would in Brazil are since I don't speak any Portuguese.
First off, I got to say I'm impressed by the dedication and stamina some of you bring to this hobby. As my title implies, I'm not in the same league as you guys but hopefully other newbs will find my report useful.
I've actually been in Brazil for a month or so doing the tourist thing but have run out of sites to see and have some extra time to check out some of Brazil's other attractions as I'll be here one more month. Due to my lack of Portuguese and the low level of English here I haven't been really motivated to get out to the clinicas / prives / termas to see what they are about. As some of you might guess from my name, I'm from the former Soviet Union and I can't say I'm impressed by the women on the streets or beaches here when it comes to looks. However, I want to make the best of the month I have left here, so I can't really knock things until I've tried them, so I hope to have some fun, educational experiences in my last couple of weeks here.
Sao Paulo:
I was in Sao Paulo about a week or so ago and I tried out the well-known clinica, "Prime. " I actually really enjoyed my time there. One or two girls spoke a little English and I did session about 4 times over the week or so I was there. I'll definitely have to try out "Scandalla" on my way back through to find out what the hype is about. Generally I really liked the vibe and women of that city. It felt a more International, Big-city, High-Energy, Well-Educated-People type of a place. The restaurants were quite nice but there was really not much to do there.
Rio:
In my few days here, I've only been out once to a prive called "Zen Therapy. " It's in the RB185 building. It's very easy to access. You simply walk down the ramp to the elevators, and take the one on the far left to the 4th floor. It's sala 405. No ID check or anything required. Another important note. After reading the forums I was unsure if I needed an appointment before visiting a prive as most reports make mention of scheduling an appointment with a girl. Newbs should know that like the clinicas of Sao Paulo, you can just show up to the prive, ask for a "presentation" and they'll show you the available girls. Unless you are on a short trip, if you have time, you might as well go this route as the website pictures, even if real, can be photoshopped and you really can't get a vibe from the girl like you can in person.
What's cool about Zen Therapy is that their website seems generally accurate in that they have semi-realistic pictures of the girls that actually work there so it gives you some idea of what to expect. On my trip there today around 5 pm I was presented with 4 girls. Hanna, Anny, Raisa, and Liz. All seemed pretty friendly in the presentation. All had natural tits, Hanna and Liz both seemed the best proportioned to my liking. I'm not really into black women, but Raisa who was the only black woman was certainly the most pleasant. In the end I went with Hanna. I paid 100 for thirty minutes. The price may have only been 90 but I couldn't really understand the receptionist and she wasn't very patient with my lack of Portuguese. Either way, it was extremely cheap. I was just a bit surprised with the tone and demeaner of the receptionist as typically customer service in Brazil has been extremely friendly.
I would rate the session as just OK. We did DFK, BBBJ and covered sex, but there just wasn't any chemistry. For the price, however, I can't really complain. I'll probably go back and try another girl there next week, but now I'm thinking that maybe the termas will be more my thing. I should also mention that for looks, I would rate these women 5's and 6's perhaps. For the price and convenience it's a great deal but nothing to write home about.
General tips for newbs in Brazil:
Phone. Because of the language difficulty and CPF requirement it may be too much hassle for some to get a sim card. What I did was use an eSIM and bought some time from Flexiroam. It's a more expensive route to buy data but I think I paid $23 USD for 24 days and 1 GB of data. It's not much but more than enough for my minimum requirement of data for Uber rides, Whatsapp, Telegram, Messenger and any emergencies. I won't be watching YouTube on it and I keep mobile data turned off except for when I actually need to use it. If you have a new model phone that handles eSIMs, I recommend it or any similar services as this package was Global and I can pretty much fly anywhere and be set up to grab an Uber from the airport where ever I land.
CPF tip. For those that don't know, the CPF is basically a tax ID number that all residents of Brazil have and they like to use it for everything. As a foreigner you won't have one and it's a bit of a pain to get and not really worth the hassle unless you plan to live here or keep coming back. It's usually needed when you buy a sim card but that can be avoided with my tip above. Another area I had issues was booking bus tickets around Brazil. Some of the bus websites required a CPF number. There is a website which is a third-party site for booking tickets called [URL]clickbus.com.br[/URL]. They don't require it and also have an option to pay using Paypal which was nice. If you don't have that option and really do need to book a ticket with a CPF number, you can also google "CPF generator Brazil" websites. These are primarily for programmers to generate fake CPF numbers to test the validation code for their websites but technically you could use it to generate a fake CPF to book a bus ticket. I'm not sure how much trouble this could cause you if you started using it everywhere but if you have no other option when booking a bus ticket, it probably isn't a big deal.
Food. For those with language difficulties I recommend the "Buffet By Weight" style restaurants. Here in Brazil there are many buffets that'll charge you by the weight of your plate. It's super-easy as you just select what you want, put it on a scale and pay. Generally when I travel I find fast food the easiest and most convenient but here in Brazil, it seems every fast food place I go to follows "The Subway Method" where they ask you a million questions in Portuguese about exactly how you would like your food, and what ingredients, sauces, etc you would like. This drives me crazy, even in English. Just make a good product that the majority of people like and I'll just pay you and eat it. Anyway, generally food here is decent and their are a lot of options.
Transportation. Most people here recommend Uber and I would as well. I would also like to point out however, that the subway in Rio is quite modern, and a good, cheap, efficient way to cover long distances in the city. I personally hate sitting in a car in traffic, so sometimes I just use the subway.
Accommodation. This has been covered quite well in the forum. I've stayed in Copa (on my first trip through) and now in Centro. I'd go with the majority and say Copa is best for first-timers or short-term stays. There is something magical about be right next to the world-famous beach and it is nice to walk on in the mornings. And yes, Copa can be sketchy in the evenings but not nearly as sketchy as here in Centro. I really wouldn't walk around here after 7 pm. Almost everything is closed. It seemed that more was going on in the evening near the beach.
Anyway, that's it for now. More to come after I've hit some Termas.
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2599834]Rio:
In my few days here, I've only been out once to a prive called "Zen Therapy. " It's in the RB185 building. It's very easy to access. You simply walk down the ramp to the elevators, and take the one on the far left to the 4th floor. It's sala 405. No ID check or anything required. Another important note. After reading the forums I was unsure if I needed an appointment before visiting a prive as most reports make mention of scheduling an appointment with a girl. Newbs should know that like the clinicas of Sao Paulo, you can just show up to the prive, ask for a "presentation" and they'll show you the available girls. Unless you are on a short trip, if you have time, you might as well go this route as the website pictures, even if real, can be photoshopped and you really can't get a vibe from the girl like you can in person.
What's cool about Zen Therapy is that their website seems generally accurate in that they have semi-realistic pictures of the girls that actually work there so it gives you some idea of what to expect. On my trip there today around 5 pm I was presented with 4 girls. Hanna, Anny, Raisa, and Liz. All seemed pretty friendly in the presentation. All had natural tits, Hanna and Liz both seemed the best proportioned to my liking. I'm not really into black women, but Raisa who was the only black woman was certainly the most pleasant. In the end I went with Hanna. I paid 100 for thirty minutes. The price may have only been 90 but I couldn't really understand the receptionist and she wasn't very patient with my lack of Portuguese. Either way, it was extremely cheap. I was just a bit surprised with the tone and demeaner of the receptionist as typically customer service in Brazil has been extremely friendly.[/QUOTE]Making appointments at the massage places is a good idea if you speak Portuguese well. It is something I regularly do and one of the reasons is because it gives the girl an ego boost and bragging rights with her coworkers. In Rio I would say the photos are glamour shots but not overly Photoshopped. I have never felt deceived or have been disappointed. Also, when you are a walk-in you only see the girls available at that moment. Often the best girls are taken and keep busy.
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2599834]First off, I got to say I'm impressed by the dedication and stamina some of you bring to this hobby. As my title implies, I'm not in the same league as you guys but hopefully other newbs will find my report useful.
I've actually been in Brazil for a month or so doing the tourist thing but have run out of sites to see and have some extra time to check out some of Brazil's other attractions as I'll be here one more month. [/QUOTE]Great report, thank you. And a great tip for that CPF generator thing.
If you intend to stay in Rio for one more month, I'd encourage you to take in a little more territory. Visit Petropolis (a very pleasant trip to the mountainous old capital of Brazil), go to the resort town of Buzios for 3-4 days, ditto for Ilha Grande and Parati, from where you can further explore the Emerald Coast (Parati and the Emerald Coast are also doable from SP). If you aren't able to wife up for these trips, that's not a problem for every town in Brazil has some GDP presence. Resort towns like Buzios and Parati certainly do.
I don't know what you've already seen in Rio, but you could do some Centro walking tours (there are some great free tours where you just give them a small tip), go to the Cathedral and Benedictine Monastery, walk up Celeron steps from Lapa to Santa Theresa. Vagabundo also mentioned some waterfall hikes that sound interesting to me, if that's your thing.
I mean I don't think it's possible to run out of sites to see in and around Rio.
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2599834]. . . Food. For those with language difficulties I recommend the "Buffet By Weight" style restaurants. Here in Brazil there are many buffets that'll charge you by the weight of your plate. It's super-easy as you just select what you want, put it on a scale and pay. Generally when I travel I find fast food the easiest and most convenient but here in Brazil, it seems every fast food place I go to follows "The Subway Method" where they ask you a million questions in Portuguese about exactly how you would like your food, and what ingredients, sauces, etc you would like. This drives me crazy, even in English. Just make a good product that the majority of people like and I'll just pay you and eat it. Anyway, generally food here is decent and their are a lot of options.
. . .
Anyway, that's it for now. More to come after I've hit some Termas.[/QUOTE]Nice report, with several good tips for newbies. For more convenient super food ideas, checkout:
"Street Food in Brazil. RIO DE JANEIRO Brazilian Food + Attractions in Rio, Brazil!" [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlWDF3BfUdo[/URL].
Keep the reports coming and good luck at the termas.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2599802]Are single guys allowed in? I live in the US and some club single guys are allowed in and others only single woman. I had pretty good success but I don't know if I would in Brazil are since I don't speak any Portuguese.[/QUOTE]First off, I have no experience with Rio swing clubs. However, it seems most guys here bring something to the party. With no Portuguese, it would seem to be a challenge to interact in a swing club where more interactive understanding is needed. Communication like "Stick your dick in my girlfriend's mouth while I fuck her from behind" and "My wife say you can watch, but please don't touch."
One option is to find termas girls who speak some English and are agreeable to "swing" outside the club. I would spend some time with her in a session at the termas or your place to make sure the two of you are copacetic together. There you have both your "plus one" and a translator.
If you really like attending swing clubs solo, Whatsapp the club using Google Translate to see how amicable they are to a single man with no Portuguese visiting.
Thanks for the reply about single guys at Swing clubs. Finding a Terma girl who speaks English seems like a good idea. I'm trying to learn a few Portuguese phrases but I know that's won't help at all. I would be going to back to Thailand where it seems like half the girls speak English very well but since I don't have time to quarantine Brazil seems to be well with the trip. I've taken members advice and staying in Copa so hopefully my lack of speaking the language won't be as big of a deal. I love the beach and all the girls of course but right now my trip is 3 weeks long. Am I going to get bored? I was in Pattaya for two weeks and could have stayed a month for sure but Rio is different of course.
Finally: here I come, but arrive Sunday AM and want to know of clubs, prives or other means of available companions for a Sunday lunch and some fun afterwards? Seems Sunday is a bit dead, and I will definitely need some fun after a long flight from Boston. Any ideas or mercy referrals?
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2600119]Finally: here I come, but arrive Sunday AM and want to know of clubs, prives or other means of available companions for a Sunday lunch and some fun afterwards? Seems Sunday is a bit dead, and I will definitely need some fun after a long flight from Boston. Any ideas or mercy referrals?[/QUOTE]I arrived on a Sunday morning last week and it was mostly a settling down day, along with checking out the area in Copacabana since a lot of locals seem to hit the beach and restaurants that day. As far as mongering, as you know most stuff is closed. I ended up seeing a girl from Barrasvip that was willing to work on a Sunday. Just my two cents, I settled for this and rested to start Monday fresh in the centro Prives.
Single men are allowed in. They may pay extra to get in but are welcomed. Asha is a pretty standard night club with table seating, bar and dance areas. The orgies happen in the back rooms. There is one on the 2nd floor where only couples are allowed and the one on the first floor is for anyone however people tend to avoid this area because it is filled with creepy single men just waiting for something to happen. I would say the audience has a lot of barravip girls attending with their clients for the night. You have your real swingers, lesbians or couples just looking for excitement. You should definitely go with a girl you meet down here otherwise you are just a creep in the backroom LOL. Make sure you pick the right girl too or you will be stuck with a girl not really into the scene. Ask her if she is willing to swap or get involved with another girl before going. Or just have sex out in front of people. Portuguese is needed but if anything let your girl do all the talking and just nod your head. LOL.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2599802]Are single guys allowed in? I live in the US and some club single guys are allowed in and others only single woman. I had pretty good success but I don't know if I would in Brazil are since I don't speak any Portuguese.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2600119]Finally: here I come, but arrive Sunday AM and want to know of clubs, prives or other means of available companions for a Sunday lunch and some fun afterwards? Seems Sunday is a bit dead, and I will definitely need some fun after a long flight from Boston. Any ideas or mercy referrals?[/QUOTE]Was there about a month ago and on a chilly slow Sunday we took a trip to Vila Mimosa! I had a fuckin blast! Not for everybody but I think it's worth a trip.
Word of Advice to newcomers.
Sundays are pretty much a closed day for any real fun. Brazil is a very devout catholic country and family oriented as most latin / south american countries so some of these girls go to church or hang out with their family.
So Termas / Prives are closed.
If you arrive on a Sunday, your best bet is to hit up barrasvip or private55 and try to get a girl come to you or go to her place. As always it's best to schedule in advance (a week ahead or so before you arrive) as they could be out of the state, taking a day off or booked. It's always key to plan ahead.
You could also do some tourist stuff and explore the city which is a great option as well.
Also good time to buy supplies like sunscreen, clothes, etc and plan for the next day.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2600280]Brazil is a very devout catholic country[/QUOTE]I guess we would need to know your meanings of devout and very. I know a bunch of people in Brazil and I can count on one hand (seriously having a hard time thinking of any at all) the amount that goes to some type of worship house on a regular basis. They do exclaim "meu deus" or "jesus" every now and then if that counts for anything. Maybe on paper it is devout or Catholic, but in real life mehhh.
Me and my girlfriend were at an open air restaurant last night in her small Mato Grosso town, and a guy came through selling these sandalwood sachets for 3 reais, 4 for 10. Someone jokingly asked if it was for Condomble. Seen a Baptist church and Methodist church here, but have not seen a Catholic one.
They have an airport chapel in Sao Paulo. 15 and 20 years ago I used to go in there and lie down behind the altar to sleep while waiting on my connecting flight. I knew nobody else in such a devout Catholic country was coming in there.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2600280]Word of Advice to newcomers.
Sundays are pretty much a closed day for any real fun. You could also do some tourist stuff and explore the city which is a great option as well.[/QUOTE]On Sunday enjoy the beach, have a stroll, and do some people watching. Centro is deader than dead on Sundays.
First off, thanks for the tips regarding Rio, perhaps I should get out more, there is quite a lot to do in this region. The wifing-up to Buzios trip sounds like a great idea. If I find a girl with good chemistry I might try that.
Last night (Thursday) I managed to get out to 4 x 4 for my first termas experience. I arrived around 7 pm. My mission was just to have a few drinks and scope the place out just to see what it was about as I was tired and wasn't really in the mood. Turns out that a couple of beers put me in the mood, so I did session once and ended up spending about 2 hours there.
This place has no shortage of great reviews but I'd like to add a bit of a newbs perspective. To understand where I'm coming from, I'll say that the only comparable venues I've been to would be Showpark in Prague and La Isla in Medellin. Obviously these different styles of venues given that one of them is actually a strip club. But in general, the premise is the same. A fun place where you grab some drinks, check out the girls and then go bang one of them.
What I liked:
- On a global scale, the price is pretty damn good. I mean 50 for entry, 20 for a beer and 290 for 30 min. Or 410 for 60 min. That would be about 10 USD entry, 4 USD beer, 60 USD for sex.
- No shortage of choices. There was a very high quantity of women.
- English-friendly. From the very friendly woman at reception to a few of the girls I talked to, this has been one of the most English-friendly places I've been to in Brazil.
- The Robe culture. This was my first-time doing the robe thing. I would say about 75-80% of the guys used them, maybe 20% in street clothes. The robe put me more at ease. No worries that some guy dresses better than you do, everyone is equal in a way. No worries about losing a wallet or phone (not that I really worry about that at a club, but it's one less thing).
- The stripper pole. Being a newb and solo, I didn't know what to expect from this kinda place. I assumed I might end up standing there, drinking a beer and staring at the wall until one of the hot girls was free. But no, they did have some entertainment to focus on. The strip show was fun, and a great way to check out some of the talent.
What I didn't like:
- The facilities aren't exactly glamourous. The center of Rio is pretty dirty and run-down. Unfortunately that is just the general trend in Rio. Barra / Ipanema are nice areas of the city with modern facilities but the rest of the city kinda looks like a dive. The rooms are kinda basic but didn't really seem dirty.
- It was way too crowded for me. I had read that it's important to go during the busy times (Tues-Thurs). Presumably this is to have the largest selection of women. Last night there was almost no place to stand and the most beautiful women were busy with other guys. I've heard that all these termas are quite small so I guess that's what you have to deal with. If you go with a group, that's a fun, cool, party vibe, but when riding solo, I prefer to sit, drink, and observe the atmosphere. Perhaps I was just a little late to arrive. I think I'll try to arrive in the afternoon or 5 pm to see if it's more to my liking. It would be nice to be able to sit down or approach some hot girl who isn't occupied with a group of guys.
- Being approached by the uglies. To be clear, none of the women were pushy. I just don't like the awkwardness of shaking off a girl I'm not attracted to. I'm very picky, and it's not very likely that the top 10% girls will ever approach a guy, so I'd rather not be approached and just put in the work myself. For some guys who are shy or open for anything, this may be a benefit, I understand.
My mixed feelings:
- it's pretty awesome to be able to visit such an establishment with such services at such prices so I don't really like to complain. I should however, mention to other newbs that they keep expectations intact. I've learned so far that Brazil has such a high reputation due to the service level of the girls here. I would argue it's not necessarily the looks. Perhaps the top 10% of Brazilians are hotter than the top 10% of Eastern Europeans but in general, Eastern European women are far hotter. You really don't have to worry about overweight girls there. So, I guess I was a little disappointed with the looks. Sure, most of the women were technically do-able, but how many would I want to spend money on? For me, the vast majority would be no. The good news though, is that yes, the top 5 girls I saw there last night, were definitely hot and would've been a really great experience. I should also note, that the performance of the one girl I tried was actually pretty astonishing. I couldn't really keep up. If she had been younger and hotter I might've tried to get her number and see her outside of the club.
I can certainly see myself visiting a few more times this month and I'm sure I'll have a great time with some of the hotter girls. Also, I really want to check out some other termas so I can make comparisons. My type of girl is definitely branca. I noticed more in Sao Paulo than here in Rio for sure. If anyone knows of a terma or prive that has the same amount or more brancas than 4 x 4, I'd be interested to know, thanks!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2600377]I guess we would need to know your meanings of devout and very. I know a bunch of people in Brazil and I can count on one hand (seriously having a hard time thinking of any at all) the amount that goes to some type of worship house on a regular basis. [/QUOTE]In Brazil about 50% are catholic, 30% evangelica, 10% atheist and the rest other religions. In my experience the evangelicas are way more fanatic and more serious worshipper than the Catholics.
Great venues to. Meet girls.
Unless you burst into flames.
Have some sympathy have some taste.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2600395]In Brazil about 50% are catholic, 30% evangelica, 10% atheist and the rest other religions. In my experience the evangelicas are way more fanatic and more serious worshipper than the Catholics.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2600388]First off, thanks for the tips regarding Rio, perhaps I should get out more, there is quite a lot to do in this region. The wifing-up to Buzios trip sounds like a great idea. If I find a girl with good chemistry I might try that.
I can certainly see myself visiting a few more times this month and I'm sure I'll have a great time with some of the hotter girls. Also, I really want to check out some other termas so I can make comparisons. My type of girl is definitely branca. I noticed more in Sao Paulo than here in Rio for sure. If anyone knows of a terma or prive that has the same amount or more brancas than 4 x 4, I'd be interested to know, thanks![/QUOTE]If you prefer Brancas, Sao Paulo is definitely better. I love termas, but none is going to have the quality of the top-tier Clubs in Sao Paulo (IMO regardless of preferences).
You might try Termas Solarium in Jardin Botanico. At times in the past, it has had an overrepresentation of Brancas / Loiras vs the other termas.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2600583]Great venues to. Meet girls.
Unless you burst into flames.
Have some sympathy have some taste.[/QUOTE]A good point. Religious meetings sometimes have lots of hot girls. Out of curiosity I once followed a GF to an evangelica mass in Botafogo. Thousand of nicely dressed people singing and almost dancing. So many hot girls coming up to hug me as they thought I was a new member of their community.
In Salvador don't miss the Lavagem do Rio Vermelho. People who worship Iemanjá gathers in Rio Vermelho to give offerings to the sea goddess. All Candomblé worshipper in Salvador goes there. I have never seen som many beautiful black girls gathered in one place. Excellent for picking up regular girls.
Sometimes I enter old catholic churches in Brazil, to enjoy the architecture and also to cool me down on hot days. Plenty of hot girls visit churches during daytime. Out of respect I don't pick up girls inside a church. However when leaving the church is a different thing. If the girls have seen you in the church they know that you're a good guy and will happily go with you to have a coffee.
Did that guy who was planning to fuck VM girls raw for 14 hours a day while consuming only chicken broth, sildenafil and ecstasy ever show up? I want to see before and after photos of his pau.
[QUOTE=Combo;2600586]If you prefer Brancas, Sao Paulo is definitely better. I love termas, but none is going to have the quality of the top-tier Clubs in Sao Paulo (IMO regardless of preferences).
You might try Termas Solarium in Jardin Botanico. At times in the past, it has had an overrepresentation of Brancas / Loiras vs the other termas.[/QUOTE]Awesome. I'll be sure to check it out then. Thanks!
I also want to note for those who have the extra time and want to check out cinemas, gyms or museums in Rio, new rules went into effect on Sept. 1 that require vaccination documents to enter these places. I went to check out a movie yesterday at Botafogo Mall and I couldn't get in to the cinema unfortunately. These rules are for the state of Rio so Sao Paulo should still be fine. In terms of the hobby, it seems that the prives and termas should be operating normally but this is a sign that things could get worse in the future.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2598949]Well. Sounds like I better catch up with that guy and ask how much Portuguese school costs.[/QUOTE]Just walked past this sign on Nossa Senhora. Weather was great yesterday. Today overcast and cool.
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2600388]My mixed feelings:
- it's pretty awesome to be able to visit such an establishment with such services at such prices so I don't really like to complain. I should however, mention to other newbs that they keep expectations intact. I've learned so far that Brazil has such a high reputation due to the service level of the girls here. I would argue it's not necessarily the looks. Perhaps the top 10% of Brazilians are hotter than the top 10% of Eastern Europeans but in general, Eastern European women are far hotter. You really don't have to worry about overweight girls there. So, I guess I was a little disappointed with the looks. Sure, most of the women were technically do-able, but how many would I want to spend money on? For me, the vast majority would be no. [/QUOTE]Sadly, I haven't experienced a terma. I have been to Rio & Sao Paulo, but was with company that didn't allow for the hobby. It's a bit of a hike for me, as is Eastern Europe.
Termas sound very similar to German FKK clubs. Which I can say were a wonderful experience. Maybe less so now that BBBJ is not allowed in German clubs. Recent change as I understand it.
That said, it would be good to hear from someone who has experienced both Rio's Termas and Germany's FKK clubs in terms of the quality and ratio of women to men.
In my experience with German FKK Oase club near Frankfurt, there were many women that were do-able. There was a lot of talent in my taste range. Busty, young, slim waist, decently developed rear, and beautiful face. And of course seeing the talent walking around before making a selection is nice. The Oase FKK club definitely had women who would approach the men, but they weren't too pushy. Not too awkward in saying no, not now. Overall, the girls had a good attitude and looked to please. I would be interested in a comparison by those with experience in Germany.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2600377]I guess we would need to know your meanings of devout and very. I know a bunch of people in Brazil and I can count on one hand (seriously having a hard time thinking of any at all) the amount that goes to some type of worship house on a regular basis. They do exclaim "meu deus" or "jesus" every now and then if that counts for anything. Maybe on paper it is devout or Catholic, but in real life mehhh.
Me and my girlfriend were at an open air restaurant last night in her small Mato Grosso town, and a guy came through selling these sandalwood sachets for 3 reais, 4 for 10. Someone jokingly asked if it was for Condomble. Seen a Baptist church and Methodist church here, but have not seen a Catholic one.
They have an airport chapel in Sao Paulo. 15 and 20 years ago I used to go in there and lie down behind the altar to sleep while waiting on my connecting flight. I knew nobody else in such a devout Catholic country was coming in there.[/QUOTE]Where did you met your girlfriend? In Rio or SP? Do you think those interior states are good for meeting girls? For a Portuguese native.
[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2601117]Where did you met your girlfriend? In Rio or SP? Do you think those interior states are good for meeting girls? For a Portuguese native.[/QUOTE]Latinamericancupid. The first time she came down to meet me in Rio. She lived in a town where she had to ride the bus 20 hours overnight to the closest airport, which was in Goiania. Now she lives in a town with an airport although 1 flight on a small plane every couple of days. I have been meeting chicks on there for 16 years. I always leave her house and come to Rio for a few days. This time she said to only cheat on her a little bit.
So I've been here almost 2 weeks and dying to get a good workout in. The places I've been staying either don't have a gym or its a shittyy gym. I went to smart fit today and they tlld me I need a cpf to join. Even though I'm only going to be here for a couple months at most. So okay. I did some research online and it says I can get kne pretty easy but I need a proof of residence like a water bill? Isn't that a bit of a catch 22? I mean you probably need a cpf to rent a place in order to get the watwr bil right? Can I just ask my hotel to say I'm staying there? I've considered tryiing to use one of the online generators to make a fake cpf. Is that just a really bad idea? I think I could sign up online with it. Anyone here ever join smartfit?
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2601393]So I've been here almost 2 weeks and dying to get a good workout in. The places I've been staying either don't have a gym or its a shittyy gym. I went to smart fit today and they tlld me I need a cpf to join. Even though I'm only going to be here for a couple months at most. So okay. I did some research online and it says I can get kne pretty easy but I need a proof of residence like a water bill? Isn't that a bit of a catch 22? I mean you probably need a cpf to rent a place in order to get the watwr bil right? Can I just ask my hotel to say I'm staying there? I've considered tryiing to use one of the online generators to make a fake cpf. Is that just a really bad idea? I think I could sign up online with it. Anyone here ever join smartfit?[/QUOTE]Don't you have any bill from your home country in your phone that shows your address. It doesn't have to be a address in Brazil.
Thanks for the clarification. I thought it had to be a bill from Brazil. But actually I don't have any bills physcially sent to me anymore. I guess I could print out one my digital credit card statements. Would that work? I spend most of my time outside of my home country.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2601399]Don't you have any bill from your home country in your phone that shows your address. It doesn't have to be a address in Brazil.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2601404]Thanks for the clarification. I thought it had to be a bill from Brazil. But actually I don't have any bills physcially sent to me anymore. I guess I could print out one my digital credit card statements. Would that work? I spend most of my time outside of my home country.[/QUOTE]Any bill that has your name and home address and put the same address in the application. I can get all my bills in pdf format from my bank app. If you have any, just print it out. I sent one to the Brazilian consulate by email when I applied for mine last month. Check out the discussion in General info few days ago.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2601404]Thanks for the clarification. I thought it had to be a bill from Brazil. But actually I don't have any bills physcially sent to me anymore. I guess I could print out one my digital credit card statements. Would that work? I spend most of my time outside of my home country.[/QUOTE]I posted how I get it at the info section. Hope it can work for you too.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2601454]Follow the instruction of the attached form as much as you can. I use my US address. The fields on the form don't match but I did it anyway. These are the only info I sent to the email address listed.
1. the receipt of the online submission.
2 selfie with passport.
Nothing more, just be clear, I did not send utility bill mainly because I did not have it at that time. I could get it from my host but I don't have to.
I got my CPF within 3 days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601155]Latinamericancupid. The first time she came down to meet me in Rio. She lived in a town where she had to ride the bus 20 hours overnight to the closest airport, which was in Goiania. Now she lives in a town with an airport although 1 flight on a small plane every couple of days. I have been meeting chicks on there for 16 years. I always leave her house and come to Rio for a few days. This time she said to only cheat on her a little bit.[/QUOTE]I guess she also cheats on you. There is also Brazilamericancupid. Should be the same, I guess.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601155]Latinamericancupid. The first time she came down to meet me in Rio. She lived in a town where she had to ride the bus 20 hours overnight to the closest airport, which was in Goiania. Now she lives in a town with an airport although 1 flight on a small plane every couple of days. I have been meeting chicks on there for 16 years. I always leave her house and come to Rio for a few days. This time she said to only cheat on her a little bit.[/QUOTE]Also, Latin Cupid or Brazil Cupid asks for subscription, if you want to reply to messages. Did you pay? Or just went free?
[QUOTE=AdamExplores;2601086]Sadly, I haven't experienced a terma. I have been to Rio & Sao Paulo, but was with company that didn't allow for the hobby. It's a bit of a hike for me, as is Eastern Europe.
Termas sound very similar to German FKK clubs. Which I can say were a wonderful experience. Maybe less so now that BBBJ is not allowed in German clubs. Recent change as I understand it.
That said, it would be good to hear from someone who has experienced both Rio's Termas and Germany's FKK clubs in terms of the quality and ratio of women to men.
In my experience with German FKK Oase club near Frankfurt, there were many women that were do-able. There was a lot of talent in my taste range. Busty, young, slim waist, decently developed rear, and beautiful face. And of course seeing the talent walking around before making a selection is nice. The Oase FKK club definitely had women who would approach the men, but they weren't too pushy. Not too awkward in saying no, not now. Overall, the girls had a good attitude and looked to please. I would be interested in a comparison by those with experience in Germany.[/QUOTE]Oase was my favorite FKK near Frankfurt, although my experience is limited. I don't think any Termas will have quite the numbers and quality that Oase has (or at least had on my last visit). And at Oase, the girls are completely naked, which is really nice. OTOH, the girls in the Termas are Brasilian, which means they will generally give you a Porn Star Experience hard to find in other locales. And after you're done you can hang out on the Ocean Front, which is really nice.
[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2601469]I guess she also cheats on you. There is also Brazilamericancupid. Should be the same, I guess.[/QUOTE]No idea. But I am not the kind of guy that would care about something like that. There is a Brazilcupid. Difference is that Brazilcupid is a concentration of chicks in Brazil and Latinamericancupid has chicks all over Latin America, which works better if you travel to multiple Latin American countries.
Finally made it. I pmd vagabundo and would love to catch up for fine good and women safari for like minded.
[QUOTE=AdamExplores;2601086]Maybe less so now that BBBJ is not allowed in German clubs. Recent change as I understand it.[/QUOTE]I hit the Frankfurt FKK's a after that condom law went into effect. I had no problems getting BBBJ. None of the ladies even suggested it. FKK v Termas: Definitely more Eye Candy in the FKK's, lots of blondes too. OTOH, Termas is more bang for the buck! It's €50 per hour in the FKK, and an additional €50 if you want additional activities, (anal was €100 more at some places.) No the case in the Termas: no need to pay for extras. I found the FKK girls a bit clinical. Termas girls are just the opposite, they want to fuck! As to facilities, the FKK's are better, bigger. But for me, the Termas are More Fun!
Yesterday (Monday) I got out to Whiskeria 65 around 5:30 pm as I'm staying in the center and it was really convenient and easy to get to. I'd heard bad things about Mondays at the Termas and given that yesterday was a Monday between the weekend and today's major holiday, I really didn't know what to expect.
At 5:30, I'll rolled into the boate in my robe to grab a beer. There was literally only one girl there on the dancefloor and one bartender behind the bar. This could've made things quite awkward but fortunately the girl was a slim branca with nearly perfect proportions (unfortunately that did include silicon-enhanced breasts but that seems to be extremely common in Rio). She didn't really have a very pretty face, but that wasn't my main priority. She sat down for a bit while I finished my beer and tried to communicate. She really spoke zero English. It seemed like an easy enough decision to take her to a room for an hour. The session was good and she put on a near-perfect performance, but there was one regret. Given how much she talked and our communication issues every 5 minutes, I really wish I had grabbed my phone. That is probably my biggest lesson of the evening. For those of us without Porto, really, Google translate can make a very big difference and it is worthwhile sticking your phone in your robe pocket.
After the session, ideally, I would've just gone home, but given that I had only had one beer and hadn't seen much of the action I decided to go back to the boate to see if much had changed given that is was now closer to 7. Just a quick note on price. They do the whole cash vs. Credit card thing so you save a bit of money using cash. 1 HR. In the room costs 335 in cash or 355 on credit card. The entrance fee was 70 and I'm not sure if it's entirely consumable or partially, as I didn't really check the bill. I only had two beers and wasn't charged extra so I can deduce that at the very minimum, 2 beers are included as consumable.
The action up stairs was decent. I'd say there were about 10 guys and maybe 15 girls. Only two or three of us guys had robes and the others were in street clothes so I'm not sure if that is a changing trend. The girls were very friendly, approached me and accepted my "I'm too tired" excuse without making things awkward. About 5 of the girls were brancas which is what I liked, so it was a good ratio.
Comparing 4 x 4 to Whiskeria 65 is interesting. Obviously 4 x4 is the fan favorite and my sample group of only going to each one time isn't very deep but I probably enjoyed my Monday at 65 more than my Thursday at 4 x4. Interestingly enough I paid the exact same price at each place - 405 BRL. At 4 x 4 that gave me 3 beers and one 30 min. Session, whereas at 65 that gave me two beers and an hour session (and probably I could've grabbed another beer that would've been included in consumable). The room was much nicer at Whiskeria 65 I would say as well. It looked like a very modern renovation. The English was way better at 4 x 4 - nobody spoke English at 65 and the action and excitement was better at 4 x4 as well. Then again, we are comparing a Monday and a Thursday. For my solo travelling self, I enjoyed the calmer 65 a bit more but could imagine having a crazy fun time with some buddies at 4 x4.
Moral of the story for me so far, these tier 1 termas are quite comparable. I understand that some guys will have a limited time here but it's not really worth overanalyzing too much about which one to go to. Just get out there and have a fun time. These two places are so close to each other and both with a very affordable entry fee, if you're not satisfied with one, it's worth it to go check out the other.
Anyway, I've still got more time in Rio, so I'll probably check out Solorium before just sticking to 4 x 4 and 65 because both these places seem sufficient and I'd rather get familiar with one or two than to run around the city too much.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2601740]I hit the Frankfurt FKK's a after that condom law went into effect. I had no problems getting BBBJ. None of the ladies even suggested it. FKK v Termas: Definitely more Eye Candy in the FKK's, lots of blondes too. OTOH, Termas is more bang for the buck! It's 50 per hour in the FKK, and an additional 50 if you want additional activities, (anal was 100 more at some places.) No the case in the Termas: no need to pay for extras. I found the FKK girls a bit clinical. Termas girls are just the opposite, they want to fuck! As to facilities, the FKK's are better, bigger. But for me, the Termas are More Fun![/QUOTE]The 50 Euro per hour is incorrect. Before the pandemic closed them, the rate was 50/30 and 100/60, which included BBBJ and kissing. CIM and anal in the big Frankfurt clubs was 50 and 100, respectively, while they were 25 and 50 respectively in the NWR big clubs. Now, per reports in the German FKK thread, many girls are trying to charge 100/30 and 150/60 for the previous normal service.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2601771]Now, per reports in the German FKK thread, many girls are trying to charge 100/30 and 150/60 for the previous normal service.[/QUOTE]So it's gotten worse! Currently €100 = $R612. Termas for the Win!
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2601775]So it's gotten worse! Currently 100 = $R612. Termas for the Win![/QUOTE]Termas definitely win in terns of service and value. As for as facilities are concerned, there is no comparison with FKKs. FKKs (especially the big ones in Frankfurt and the one in Berlin) are like huge superstores where as termas are like small convince stores. Don't expect to find many 8-10's in termas. You may find a 8 here and there but 8+ may be like finding an unicorn.
Hi all,
I've only just had time to write, I arrived to Spain from Rio de Janeiro and Natal last week, about 10 days in total of the trip.
First, the truth is that I had certain misgivings about Brazil. From Spain, as with everything else, there is a totally distorted view of the country, and the arguments are based on crime statistics that are totally out of context.
Above all, I would highlight its atmosphere and rhythm 24 hours a day. Brazilian music is magical, it grabs you from day one and moves every corner of the country.
Also, of course, its people, who will welcome you and treat you like a real king. As a good "gringo" you acquire a status you have never felt before.
The women are on another level. And when I say on a different level, I'm not exaggerating and I'm talking about their physique and their way of being. In Brazil, luckily, boys are still boys and girls are still girls. There is courtship, seduction, flirting. Everything that Western societies have crushed in the last 50 years.
And finally, the landscapes, beaches, cities, climate, food, prices, infrastructures, etc. Little new to tell here.
Brazil will always be in our hearts, we will be back soon.
I stayed two nights at the Transamerica but it was a real fiasco, I noticed on the first day that not a single woman was to be seen in the Hotel, I started to write to many girls on barravips and they confirmed that they are no longer at the Transamerica, that they are no longer allowed to be there. There wasn't a single one, but it was good for me to get to know the Barra the Tijuca neighbourhood and I finally went to Ipanema Hotel.
I was also in Mabs (is full open) on a Thursday night and there was quite a lot of atmosphere but they had to call the police as there was an under-age girl wanting to prostitute herself, but I had a great time there nonetheless.
I also liked the weekend in the Lapa neighbourhood because it is a total carioca atmosphere, I was surprised that the thermal baths were closed for the weekend although I had already read about it here. I was able to enjoy a night in Montecarlo with two incredible women.
Brazil, we will be back soon.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2601813]Don't expect to find many 8-10's in termas. You may find a 8 here and there but 8+ may be like finding an unicorn.[/QUOTE]I would have to disagree. Of course, 8+ is in the eye of beholder, but still. There are gorgeous ladies in termas to be found, the problem is a terma can look like 2 completely different termas on 2 different days and times of the day, too.
[QUOTE=TShelby;2601816]Hi all,
I've only just had time to write, I arrived to Spain from Rio de Janeiro and Natal last week, about 10 days in total of the trip.
First, the truth is that I had certain misgivings about Brazil. From Spain, as with everything else, there is a totally distorted view of the country, and the arguments are based on crime statistics that are totally out of context.
Above all, I would highlight its atmosphere and rhythm 24 hours a day. Brazilian music is magical, it grabs you from day one and moves every corner of the country.
Also, of course, its people, who will welcome you and treat you like a real king. As a good "gringo" you acquire a status you have never felt before.[/QUOTE]Rio can elicit strong emotions, it's usually I love it or I hate it. I'm glad you enjoyed your stay.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2601871]I would have to disagree. Of course, 8+ is in the eye of beholder, but still. There are gorgeous ladies in termas to be found, the problem is a terma can look like 2 completely different termas on 2 different days and times of the day, too.[/QUOTE]My Rio experience just started few months ago during pandemic and my conclusions may not be true representation, but I can only judge based on my experience not based on what others say. I will change my conclusions when I see 8+ and I will report here. Unfortunately we are discussing a very subjective matter as you have indicated.
I agree that lineup can change dramatically day to day.
Quattro was closed. I baulked at monte Carlo, 130 to get in and basically 540 for 40 minutes. I've tagged 3 escorts at my hotel, and today was a 19 year old muletto, very cute, but a bit mechanical and shy. I think she had a pimp controlling her, but good stuff for 200. A had a older Blonde, fishnets and gave an expert bj, rubbing my balls and took a mouthful like a champ. She had a butt plug she wanted to put in me during the bj, never encountered that before. Life is good
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2601871]I would have to disagree. Of course, 8+ is in the eye of beholder, but still. There are gorgeous ladies in termas to be found, the problem is a terma can look like 2 completely different termas on 2 different days and times of the day, too.[/QUOTE]Yup I'm in Brazil now. I arrived on Friday and the 4 x 4 was JamPacked with about 40-50 girls, while Monday was dead with about 10 girls, So it really depends on which days you go. I recommend going Late in the week around Wednesday-Friday. Early in the week is usually dead. The US Dollar is right now very good against the Brazil Real, so your money will go long compared to 5-10 years ago. Flights are also cheap now, So Brazil is a steal right now. I will keep you guys posted on more updates.
I was here yesterday but it was closed. I got here at 7 pm today. Lots of girls (40+ girls) and men. I guessing it going to get very crowded tonight.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2601871]I would have to disagree. Of course, 8+ is in the eye of beholder, but still. There are gorgeous ladies in termas to be found, the problem is a terma can look like 2 completely different termas on 2 different days and times of the day, too.[/QUOTE]I agree. Most guys will find plenty of hot-looking chicks in the first-tier Rio Termas. Comparing them to Oase or Globe or Scandallo is sort of unfair as those places are pretty much the top quality in the World.
Tuesday was Independence Day and that night on the way to Mabs, I went to scoop PM up at his hotel. When we got to Mabs I saw an old buddy sitting at a table with 3 more guys so we took a seat with them. I told PM that I would take him to VM and we could return to Mabs later. It must have been 11:30pm. Found out it was one of the other guys' first time in Rio so I told him he should come along with us. He was already toasted off beer and kept asking the same questions 1 million times througout the entire evolution.
Uber was on the way for 20 reais but canceled. There were no other Ubers in the area so we ended up taking a taxi. 35 reais. I usually ride the bus, but when I am in a car with new guys, I still request the car drop us off the same place as the bus. I want the new guys to get the total experience of the walk up to VM. So he let us off right at the bridge. I will let PM report the rest of our crazy VM experience from his perspective since it was his first time. Then I will follow up after him if need be.
We went up to Club Mosaico and went in. The other guy already had a beer with him and they let him in with it. No matter to them because the 30 real entrance fee goes toward consumption. That is 1 or 2 drinks they can save to sell to someone else. I had a grape juice which was 14 and PM had a beer which was 16.
There were some fine ass chicks in there. They are definitely better than what I saw at 4x4 last time I was there. I guess the chicks set their own prices because when I talked to the manager he said the girls are from 150 reais. The other guy was sitting talking to a chick and he said she told him 300. I do not know. Maybe that was for 1 hour, because an older chick from Campo Grande, Mato Grosso do Sul told me 150 for 30 minutes.
I asked her how much for her to come see me after work and she said she would have to ask. I said not involving the club. She said she lives at the club so that would be kind of hard. I said yeah you are right about that. I asked her how many of the girls live at the club. She said a lot. I said give me a number. She said about 20. As fine as these chicks were I wanted to move into the club right along with them. We went to the cashier and paid our 30 reais and left out of the club.
I recommend Mosaico as a must see on the monger list. And at the 150 price point and better quality of chicks, I would have to put it above 4x4. I don't know how the rooms are, but the chicks are thumbs up. But remember, I do not think it opens until like 8pm. So you guys that are queasy about Villa Mimosa better suck it up and take a trip there.
Leaving VM we had no problem getting an Uber back to Copacabana. 20 reais. I think it was about 2am. When we pulled up at Mabs it was dead if not already closed. The chick PM was talking to before we left was still out front. He tried to get her for 100 but she insisted she goes for no less than 200. I sent a whatsapp to the chick I had bargained 300 all night (said she usually goes for no less than 600) for before we left to go to VM, but she did not answer. She ended up ringing me at 5:50am, but of course I was dead to the world by then.
I took bus to get to Rio from SP when I visited black in May. This time I flew Gol airlines from CGH to SDU. I suggest you get to CGH well in advance like at least 1:15 minutes in advance if you have to check-in luggage. There was a long and slow moving line for luggage check-in when I got to the airport. You could miss the flight if you arrive late and found such long line.
Uber at SDU:
I am going to add fewore details to the tip SinfullyKorean had shared (see is report of his first Rio visit for details).
After claiming your checked luggage exit the glass door and turn left and walk towards the Bossa Nova mall. Make sure you don't exit the terminal building until you reach the mall. If you do, as SK reported, taxi mafia is going to hunt you down. Along the way, you will pass through arrivals. You will see signs direction for mall. Once you exit terminal building you will see a big sign for Uber Lounge.
Stay:
This time iam staying in Airbnb at the intersection of IPA and Copa. Apartment size was a surprise to me. It is a tiny studio but it is good enough for me. The main thing that made me book this until is highspeed WiFi clocking 250 mbps.
Solarium:
Monday, 6th Sep.
I started with my favorite terma based on my experience during previous trip in May. Club had 15+ girls, most of them average looking. There were couple of girls that I saw during last trip.
I went with a 22 yo 172 cm tall petite brunette Myra. She told me that she does everything except Anal and she delivered on it. Lots of DFK, amazing BBBJ with loads of DT, DATA, and sex in MPOS. I asked for just BBBJTC but she did BBBJTCNQNS. Great girl and. Fantastic service. Who wouldn't love a girl that goes extra mile.
Tuesday, 7th Sep.
I went to 4 x4 but it was closed because of holiday, so I went to Solarium. Mostly same lineup as the day before except for few new girls. I went with Myra's friend (I don't remember her name). She also said everything except Anal. Her service was just ok, a standard run in the mil session.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2601458]I posted how I get it at the info section. Hope it can work for you too.[/QUOTE]You're a lifesaver. Saved me at least hours waiting at some government agency. Sent in my request by email 2 days ago. Then received a response saying that it would probably take 10 business days due to high volume of requests. Got my cpf number this morning in an email. I sent in a pdf bank statement with the account number blocked out as proof of residency.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602332] But remember, I do not think it opens until like 8pm. So you guys that are queasy about Villa Mimosa better suck it up and take a trip there. [/QUOTE]But what is the ideal mongering time window? 10-1 am?
One regret from my visit to VM this past summer was not poking my head in Mosaico, it gets a lot of love on here for sure.
Met up with Mr Enternational and off to VM. Mr E thoughtfully had a taxi drop us nearby so we got the full ambience of an urban slum, burned out cars, graffiti, two police roadblocks with machine gun armed cops. Mr E added further authenticity suggesting a pee against a wall. The place is something between a Max Max movie and the bar scene out of Star Wars.
It stinks of raw sewage, the odd stray cat, and girls for 60 rials, as in $US12, for everything. The rooms are a rancid sheet, bucket in the corner. Somehow Mr E and I wound up with two girls agreed at 75, then some sketch BS pretending to have no change, and then stuck is in a room, maybe 8 x 8 feet to bang the two girls that were pretty mechanical. The other guy we were with was about to climax but was put off by a giant cum splat on the sheet, when he pointed to the girls, she just changed position, clearly unfussed. Mosacio is the upmarket bar of the VM district, yes some hot girls there, prices all over the shop. Certainly was worth the visit (THANKS MR. E) and bought Mr E lunch the next day, hope we meet again on our travels. ].
4 x4 is overpriced, pushy girls upselling, saying one thing on the floor and another in the room, watching the clock. Rooms pretty ordinary for the price of R290. Doubt that I would repeat. Massage Dudas on RM156 on 33 floor much better, 170 reals banged this hot 20 year old, all holes, mirrors on the wall. Meanwhile I found a redhead who is really experienced and coming to my hotel in about 30 minutes. She managed to extract 3 orgasms over 2 hours, very soft hands and every hole and position open. No problems swallowing, in my hotel room, all for just R130 for a long hour, no pressure, enthusiastic participant
Life is good!
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2602766]Met up with Mr Enternational and off to VM. Mr E thoughtfully had a taxi drop us nearby so we got the full ambience of an urban slum, burned out cars, graffiti, two police roadblocks with machine gun armed cops. Mr E added further authenticity suggesting a pee against a wall. The place is something between a Max Max movie and the bar scene out of Star Wars.
It stinks of raw sewage, the odd stray cat, and girls for 60 rials, as in $US12, for everything. The rooms are a rancid sheet, bucket in the corner. Somehow Mr E and I wound up with two girls agreed at 75, then some sketch BS pretending to have no change, and then stuck is in a room, maybe 8 x 8 feet to bang the two girls that were pretty mechanical. The other guy we were with was about to climax but was put off by a giant cum splat on the sheet, when he pointed to the girls, she just changed position, clearly unfussed. Mosacio is the upmarket bar of the VM district, yes some hot girls there, prices all over the shop. Certainly was worth the visit (THANKS MR. E) and bought Mr E lunch the next day, hope we meet again on our travels. ].
[/QUOTE]Very nice entertaining report, PM. It felt like I was there, and gave me good laughs.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2602766]
4 x4 is overpriced, pushy girls upselling, saying one thing on the floor and another in the room, watching the clock. Rooms pretty ordinary for the price of R290. Doubt that I would repeat. [/QUOTE]I had good experience at 4 x4 during my visit past 2 days. Girls I picked have delivered on their promises. Report coming soon.
During last trip I picked the basic room and as you said it is very basic. This time I chose 2nd option on the list (suite essential or something), which gives you double the time (60 minutes), shower and a slight better bed.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602332]There were some fine ass chicks in there. They are definitely better than what I saw at 4x4 last time I was there. I guess the chicks set their own prices because when I talked to the manager he said the girls are from 150 reais. The other guy was sitting talking to a chick and he said she told him 300. I do not know. Maybe that was for 1 hour, because an older chick from Campo Grande, Mato Grosso do Sul told me 150 for 30 minutes..[/QUOTE]The girls don't set the prices at Mosaico, its based on the same factors that other termas use (Time and Type of room). I normally get one hour in a regular room (Cabine) for 200 R.
25+ girls. Lineup is better than Monday and Tuesday.
I'm arriving in Rio on Sunday the 12th is there any places open on Sunday?
Would appreciate any tips or suggestions thanks in advance.
Given the papal prohibitions on contraception, anal sex and cum in in a girls mouth has become normalized. I think this is very good and have practiced the teachings twice daily or more. Praise Jesus.
8 Sep: Terma 4x4
When I got in around 7:30 club was mostly packed. Lots of girls but most of them are average looking. I got a drink and started looking for a good one. Within few moments my eyes zeroed in on a beautiful tall girl wearing a head bandana like a Gypsy. I instantly decided she is the one I wanted to fuck that night but the problem is that she was hanging with group next to the DJ booth. Based on my experience with groups, they hog girls and my odds of catching her anytime soon is slim.
I got to see her great body with big boobs and perfect ass as she danced the pole soon after I spotted her. After the dance she stepped out of the lounge and returned after few minutes. She stopped to watch some other girl dance on her way back to the group. I didn't want to lose the opportunity, so I went and talked to her. I asked her name. She replied, Penelope. Are you available, I asked. She said, "I am horney". I said, let's talk. As I was leading her to the only empty table, someone beat me to it. I yelled few obscenities in my mind. Penelope didn't care to talk, she dragged me directly to the reception for booking room. Holy shit, this is going to be a disaster. On top of it all she convinced me to book 1 HR. I already chalked this season as a disasterous optifuck.
The moment we entered room. She started kissing. I knew then it is going to be a great season.
After some intense kissing, we had little chit chat to know each other. She is an 18 yo (could be bit older) tall (probably 5. 9 or 5. 10) with nice ass and big Cs. Her only restriction is no anal. She spoke no English and I spoke no Portuguese still the hour passed like 15 minutes. We kissed for more than 15 minutes followed by fantastic BBBJ and sex in every position I could imagine to take advantage of her long legs. I told her I would buy her a drink after the session. After the session, she didn't care to collect her drink even though she saw me in the lounge. Some girls pester for drinks and some don't care that much even when they are on offer.
I can't recommend her enough. It is hard to miss her. She probably be one of the tallest girl if not the tallest, in there.
9 Sep: Terma 4x4
Got to the club around 8 pm. Picked a darker skinned 20 yo 172 cm tall petite girl with very tight body named Ranata. She has cute face with lots of tats and shoulder length hair like Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction. She was good but not as passionate as Penelope.
I don't think these girls get commission off the drinks. So it would make sense that drinks don't interest these girls. Unless they just enjoy drinking.
What was the damage (price) for each? And thanks for the great reviews! Personally, I don't care much for taller girls.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2603002]8 Sep: Terma 4x4
When I got in around 7:30 club was mostly packed. Lots of girls but most of them are average looking. I got a drink and started looking for a good one. Within few moments my eyes zeroed in on a beautiful tall girl wearing a head bandana like a Gypsy. I instantly decided she is the one I wanted to fuck that night but the problem is that she was hanging with group next to the DJ booth. Based on my experience with groups, they hog girls and my odds of catching her anytime soon is slim.
I got to see her great body with big boobs and perfect ass as she danced the pole soon after I spotted her. After the dance she stepped out of the lounge and returned after few minutes. She stopped to watch some other girl dance on her way back to the group. I didn't want to lose the opportunity, so I went and talked to her. I asked her name. She replied, Penelope. Are you available, I asked. She said, "I am horney". I said, let's talk. As I was leading her to the only empty table, someone beat me to it. I yelled few obscenities in my mind. Penelope didn't care to talk, she dragged me directly to the reception for booking room. Holy shit, this is going to be a disaster. On top of it all she convinced me to book 1 HR. I already chalked this season as a disasterous optifuck.
The moment we entered room. She started kissing. I knew then it is going to be a great season.
After some intense kissing, we had little chit chat to know each other. She is an 18 yo (could be bit older) tall (probably 5. 9 or 5. 10) with nice ass and big Cs. Her only restriction is no anal. She spoke no English and I spoke no Portuguese still the hour passed like 15 minutes. We kissed for more than 15 minutes followed by fantastic BBBJ and sex in every position I could imagine to take advantage of her long legs. I told her I would buy her a drink after the session. After the session, she didn't care to collect her drink even though she saw me in the lounge. Some girls pester for drinks and some don't care that much even when they are on offer.
I can't recommend her enough. It is hard to miss her. She probably be one of the tallest girl if not the tallest, in there.
9 Sep: Terma 4x4
Got to the club around 8 pm. Picked a darker skinned 20 yo 172 cm tall petite girl with very tight body named Ranata. She has cute face with lots of tats and shoulder length hair like Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction. She was good but not as passionate as Penelope.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2603002]8 Sep: Terma 4x4
When I got in around 7:30 club was mostly packed. Lots of girls but most of them are average looking. I got a drink and started looking for a good one. Within few moments my eyes zeroed in on a beautiful tall girl wearing a head bandana like a Gypsy. I instantly decided she is the one I wanted to fuck that night but the problem is that she was hanging with group next to the DJ booth. Based on my experience with groups, they hog girls and my odds of catching her anytime soon is slim.
I got to see her great body with big boobs and perfect ass as she danced the pole soon after I spotted her. After the dance she stepped out of the lounge and returned after few minutes. She stopped to watch some other girl dance on her way back to the group. I didn't want to lose the opportunity, so I went and talked to her. I asked her name. She replied, Penelope. Are you available, I asked. She said, "I am horney". I said, let's talk. As I was leading her to the only empty table, someone beat me to it. I yelled few obscenities in my mind. Penelope didn't care to talk, she dragged me directly to the reception for booking room. Holy shit, this is going to be a disaster. On top of it all she convinced me to book 1 HR. I already chalked this season as a disasterous optifuck..[/QUOTE]Funny enough, I think we may have crossed paths.
I arrived just after 6 pm on Thursday evening. This was my second Thursday at 4 x 4. Despite arriving an hour earlier, the atmosphere and amount of action was similar. The place was packed. I agree that the vast amount of girls really were average. Also, I concur that the tall girl with the bandana was among the best girls at the club. I saw one other girl who was a bit shorter, a branca with a nice ass but she was quite occupied with the guys at a table with bottle service. A lot of reports will indicate the number of women at a club, but I think it's also important to indicate the number of men. This has been my disappointment I guess with 4 x4. It has so much going for it, but when you only have maybe 5 really hot girls and 10 or 15 men it doesn't seem so great. Especially at 4 x 4, it seems that there are tables near the DJ both that have some kind of bottle service or VIP status. As you mention, those guys kinda hog the hot girls. I wonder if 4 x4 is a victim of it's own success. Maybe I just have to go even earlier. I was only there until shortly after 7 I think, as I was feeling kind of frustrated that this environment was worse than my first visit. So I headed over to Whiskeria 65.
I don't know what it is, but again 65 ended up being better for me than 4 x 4. Sure, the English is much worse but everyone there is extremely friendly. I walked into a packed boate and while standing confused about whether I'd get a spot at the bar or not, a waiter came up, took my order and politely offered me a place to sit with a table. Here I just felt more like a VIP. The guys were sitting at tables, the girls were dancing. To be honest the talent there was generally slightly worse than at 4 x4 this night with the exception of the slim branca I'd been with earlier in the week. As soon as she recognized me, she sat down beside and was all over me. I'd really wanted to try someone new, but given that no one had really stood out and this girl had given me such great service before, I went with her. Again, they had nice clean, modern rooms and I left that night with an hour in the room and 2 beers for only 405 BRL.
Other general observations:
Prior to this night, I'd only been to 4 x4 once and Whiskeria 65 once. I had had one session at each place. On Thursday night, at both establishments I was approached by the girl I'd sessioned with before. The girl I'd sessioned with at 4 x4 was quite polite and spoke enough English for general conversation. She didn't give up easily though. When I declined her company, she asked if I wanted to buy her a drink. I refused that as well as I wasn't interested in going with her again. To be honest, she had been really great in the room, but her breathe had a bit of a tuna taste which turned me off and left a bad memory. Shortly later she came back to me with her friend to propose a 3-some. Her friend wasn't bad. She had a nice ass and small tits but an all-natural body which I prefer. Her friend was slightly pushy and harder to lose. I didn't like to sales tactic and wanted more space to make my own pursuit. It appears to me at these places that sessions don't really happen at a very high frequency. It seems to me that the women probably have to put in quite a bit of effort or time to get a guy in the room. As soon as it's clear that you are a foreigner who doesn't take a long time to decide and happily go for sessions without too much concern for the cost, the women pay attention. It's fun in a way, as you are treated more like a king. The women seem to know it's worthwhile to impress you as you could give them their paycheque for the night. I could understand why local guys who never session and only take advantage of the situation could be really annoying. I noticed that they also want to make sure you choose them again the next time as they don't want other women taking their paycheque.
My question is. How do you guys usually shake off the women you've been with before? Do you just bounce around from club to club to find new girls and avoid this problem, or do you use some very direct lines to give them the hint that you are not interested?
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2602964]Given the papal prohibitions on contraception, anal sex and cum in in a girls mouth has become normalized. I think this is very good and have practiced the teachings twice daily or more. Praise Jesus.[/QUOTE]My first ever sexual experience was anal sex, I was a teenager at school with a Catholic school girl. First vaginal sex was some years later.
I am safe and have no reason to be worried, but it has been a while and I should get tested. I'm sure this has been covered but I would be grateful for any info, places, prices etc.
Also because a 18 year old I met (saw her ID) wants to go BB and I feel compelled to help out and take her on a field trip as my temporary wife.
Report: Ave tri de mayo 33 (TDM33) sala 2106 ask for Camila. Very pretty and young (18 why, 9 months), but the place is a dive and I suspect she has a yeast infection. Pussy had a bad smell: she claims too much tight clothes and pussy gel. Such a shame. She is stunning and does everything, but the whiff of that clamshell and the sound of heaving and humping and groaning through paper thin walls was off putting. At 40 rials (USD 8) for 15 minutes I suspect she has 10+ cocks a day and is showing some wear and tear. It is always strange seeing young pretty things (I suppose we males confuse that with purity) that have such hard core sexual conquests and experience that puts us men to shame in biology. There is a BBC documentary called "Megabrothel". Pretty young and personable Dutch girl mentioned she had 15,000 customers in 7 years, 5. 87 cocks per day. Women can out do us in a heartbeat. It is strange asking them "Do you do anal, cum in mouth etc" and their smiling "Sim" answer.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2603135]I am safe and have no reason to be worried, but it has been a while and I should get tested. I'm sure this has been covered but I would be grateful for any info, places, prices etc.
Also because a 18 year old I met (saw her ID) wants to go BB and I feel compelled to help out and take her on a field trip as my temporary wife. . .
[/QUOTE]In the [i]"Safe Sex and other Sex related discussions"[/i] thread, Hobbying, posted some info, w/r to your question. Good Luck!
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2470-Safe-Sex-and-other-Sex-related-discussions&p=2458316&viewfull=1#post2458316[/URL]
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2603008]
What was the damage (price) for each? And thanks for the great reviews! Personally, I don't care much for taller girls.[/QUOTE]BR $410 each for 60 min in the basic suite. You could do it for BR $290 for 30 minutes in basic room. I think upgrading to suite is better value as you get room. Upgrade with extra 30 mims.
I am a shot guy (5. 6) but I love tall girls. If I see a 7 footer in these places, I will go talk to her. They are fun, you should try them.
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2603116]Funny enough, I think we may have crossed paths.
[/QUOTE]It would have been nice if we had met. We could have had a fancy bottle service to lure all the hotties to our table. LOL.
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2603116]
My question is. How do you guys usually shake off the women you've been with before? Do you just bounce around from club to club to find new girls and avoid this problem, or do you use some very direct lines to give them the hint that you are not interested?
[/QUOTE]I tell them that I would like to check out other girls. If you really like her take her number and setup something outside the club. I also have started declining some of the girls drink requests, first nicely and if that doesn't work then bluntly. I tell them I only buy drink for the girl I go to room with. On occasion I do buy drink if I happen to spend lot of time with a girl and decided not to take her.
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2603116]My question is. How do you guys usually shake off the women you've been with before? Do you just bounce around from club to club to find new girls and avoid this problem, or do you use some very direct lines to give them the hint that you are not interested?[/QUOTE]I think this is a figment of a lot of punters' minds. They feel that because they went with a chick before that they have some type of allegiance to her or she is attached to them. Even the brother wrote the other day that he sessioned with a chick in 4 X4 and right after was going to buy her a drink, but she never came to collect.
If you go to the mall food court and eat Chinese food today, do you think the Chinese food place will be attached to you tomorrow if you return and want to eat at Burger King? No. You simply wave at the Chinese food people then you go to Burger King. Same thing when there is a chick you know. Give her a hug, ask how she has been, and move along. You can even ask her to bring you a new chick! But I have never noticed a need to shake anyone off. It seems a lot of guys want to be invisible to chicks they already fucked.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2602964]Given the papal prohibitions on contraception, anal sex and cum in in a girls mouth has become normalized. I think this is very good and have practiced the teachings twice daily or more. Praise Jesus.[/QUOTE]In the past year, I have been pleasantly surprised by the number of girls who ask if I would like to cum in their mouths. I am not sure what happened but it has become almost as common as kissing during a session.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2600012]First off, I have no experience with Rio swing clubs. However, it seems most guys here bring something to the party. With no Portuguese, it would seem to be a challenge to interact in a swing club where more interactive understanding is needed. Communication like "Stick your dick in my girlfriend's mouth while I fuck her from behind" and "My wife say you can watch, but please don't touch."
One option is to find termas girls who speak some English and are agreeable to "swing" outside the club. I would spend some time with her in a session at the termas or your place to make sure the two of you are copacetic together. There you have both your "plus one" and a translator.
If you really like attending swing clubs solo, Whatsapp the club using Google Translate to see how amicable they are to a single man with no Portuguese visiting.[/QUOTE]A little while ago, I attended a three-day swingers event right here in the USA. And I have to say, it absolutely sucked! I fully expected that it would, but I wanted to prove it to myself once and for all. And besides, it was something to do LOL! So, why did it suck? Well because, virtually all of the women were old and / or unattractive and / or fat! That's why! And there must have been 1,500 people there (men and women). I ended up fucking nobody over the three days. I've long ago become accustomed to fucking hot young girls, and I just don't want anything other than that. The women at the swinger event, I wouldn't fuck virtually any of them for free! And the guys who do, they just don't have better options. Nope, the swing scene is not my thing, and I'm out for good. The women don't meet my optics standards. Now, there are women in my age cohort who I do find attractive, but they tend not to be swingers. So, I don't do American strip clubs (hot girls but can't fuck most of them), and I don't do swing (mostly unattractive, older women who you can fuck for free but, I never will). Not going to lower my standards. I would rather pay up to get exactly what I want in terms of [B]both[/B] optics and service. Yes sir, I am a monger thru and thru (hot girls who you can fuck via P4P), and you men are my people! Monger on!
Apologize for the question, everyone is tired with this malady, but.
'As of September 15,2021, to enter places of collective use, cariocas and tourists will have to prove that they have been vaccinated against COVID-19. Municipal Decree No. 49.335, of August 26,2021, determines that the digital vaccination card of the ConectaSUS application, the vaccination card itself or a letterhead of the Municipal Health Department be presented at the entrance. '.
(Original text: A partir de 15 de setembro de 2021, para entrar them locais de uso coletivo, cariocas e turistas vão another site que comprovar que se vacinaram contra a COVID-19. O Decreto Municipal andº 49.335, de 26 de agosto de 2021 determina que seja apresentada à entrada a carteira de vacinação digital do aplicativo ConecteSUS, o próprio cartão de vacinação ou um papel timbrado the Secretaria Municipal de Saúde.).
[URL]https://conectesus-paciente.saude.gov.br/[/URL] this site should be used to get a digital card.
So, as tourist, what are exactly my steps to get things done and get this digital card?
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2603135]I am safe and have no reason to be worried, but it has been a while and I should get tested. I'm sure this has been covered but I would be grateful for any info, places, prices etc.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you're at, but LabCorps is good. Their most popular panel is $129 and includes testing for about 8 different things. Select your panel and pay online. Then, you can go to any of their labs, no appointment required: [URL]https://www.healthlabs.com/[/URL].
Day 6: After a few hit and'misses, and after the favela style safari with Mr. E to the environs of Mosaico, yesterday I hit the jackpot in Niteroi, far longer out than I thought, a solid 36 minute uber ride. Lovely girl, blonde, big tits, 21, nordic, spoke English, hot and did everything enthusiastically, swallowed too. Taking her with me to Buzios. It takes a while to get a list of good providers, but after 11 encounters I am getting what many will recognize: pussy fatigue, that is, when the novelty wears off because getting a great range of sex and types is so cheap and easy. Like a food hall. Similar in many ways to Thailand, though the massage here is lame, nothing compared to the deep tissue in LOS to chill with as the refractory period kicks in.
Another excellent interaction was at Nossa583, level 2, dark black girl, easily G cup, young and open everyway, finished all over her big bouncing tits. Walked out with shaky legs and her giggling. Something about mish anal, and the "Oi, Oi" in Portuguesa and feeling the feeling coming on.
So all in all pretty good. Mongering is good, but it needs to be leavened with other stuff, socializing, sport etc. The fly-in fly-out bag as many as you can lasts a few days, even some really young guys in their 20's at 4 X4 admitted that after 2-3 in a day for days on end, they were nutted out. When you add in 15-20 hours of transport, covid tests, airport hassles, the toll is heavy.
The "nutted out" syndrome explains the sex and commitment trap of marriage that presumes sex only goes so far to hook and keep a man around needed for slavery to the state as economic / tax / consumption unit reproduction (baby) support system, for use in wars as canon fodder, taxation for politicians to mostly piss against the wall or give to their corrupt buddies, etc. There are powerful economic forces and vested interests around reproduction stability (consumption) and people singing songs and mythology about flags and nations that is entirely about control. Is there a middle ground somewhere? I never thought I would say too much pussy is bad, but it takes a lot of discipline and organization not to become nutted out, spiritually / psychologically worn out and dissolute, one of those sad, drunk losers we all have seen in our travels. Language plays a big part in remaining connected. Some mongers here are extremely intelligent and speak multiple languages that opens up a whole new world. Better hit the books !
[QUOTE=TheCane;2603609]I would rather pay up to get exactly what I want in terms of [B]both[/B] optics and service. Yes sir, I am a monger thru and thru (hot girls who you can fuck via P4P), and you men are my people! Monger on![/QUOTE]I have smiled many times today trying to imagine you with all those old women. Three days, kkkk.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2603609]A little while ago, I attended a three-day swingers event right here in the USA. And I have to say, it absolutely sucked! I fully expected that it would, but I wanted to prove it to myself once and for all. And besides, it was something to do LOL! So, why did it suck? Well because, virtually all of the women were old and / or unattractive and / or fat! That's why! And there must have been 1,500 people there (men and women). I ended up fucking nobody over the three days. I've long ago become accustomed to fucking hot young girls, and I just don't want anything other than that. The women at the swinger event, I wouldn't fuck virtually any of them for free! And the guys who do, they just don't have better options. Nope, the swing scene is not my thing, and I'm out for good. The women don't meet my optics standards. Now, there are women in my age cohort who I do find attractive, but they tend not to be swingers. So, I don't do American strip clubs (hot girls but can't fuck most of them), and I don't do swing (mostly unattractive, older women who you can fuck for free but, I never will). Not going to lower my standards. I would rather pay up to get exactly what I want in terms of [B]both[/B] optics and service. Yes sir, I am a monger thru and thru (hot girls who you can fuck via P4P), and you men are my people! Monger on![/QUOTE]In the States my choice is to lower my standards or go celibate. I can't go celibate. I've reached the stage though where I've got to get out of here.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2603795]Similar in many ways to Thailand, though the massage here is lame, nothing compared to the deep tissue in LOS to chill with as the refractory period kicks in.[/QUOTE]LOL. So I was on to something when I said I do not even waste my time with a massage outside of Thailand and Philippines?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2603808]In the States my choice is to lower my standards or go celibate. I can't go celibate. I've reached the stage though where I've got to get out of here.[/QUOTE]But I can't get it up for women who fall below a 7 on my scale. So, I choose celibacy instead.
Apples and Oranges when comparing countries, scenes and prices in them. Over the years, I've gone to 3 swing clubs in Rio. A bit more older crowd, but I don't recall any overweight women. Medellin has a nice swing scene, but they tend to be cliquish. As a general rule, it's best to take an open minded lady with you. Go solo, and more than likely, you'll be an observer.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2603874]Apples and Oranges when comparing countries, scenes and prices in them. Over the years, I've gone to 3 swing clubs in Rio. A bit more older crowd, but I don't recall any overweight women. Medellin has a nice swing scene, but they tend to be cliquish. As a general rule, it's best to take an open minded lady with you. Go solo, and more than likely, you'll be an observer.[/QUOTE]It all depends. At the particular event I went to, it was specifically for couples looking to hook up with single men. I was an observer 100% of my own choosing. I had opportunities, but diplomatically turned them down. There was definitely some "clique" there too since it's very much the same core group of people who travel around the country going to events hosted by the same company (they throw parties in 3 cities).
Cannot do anything without a CPF. Bus ticket to Buzios? No. Airline ticket? No. Yet OK to check into a hotel without it. So instead of R80 for the bus I took a private car for 200. Not bad value I suppose.
Is the bus company https://www.autoviacao1001.com deliberately trying to kill tourists as customers? Bizarre. I did not try going to the bus station, the web site is your typical rigid data field validation model (irrespective of reality or how asinine) fetishized by disconnected management and owners of the business. No CPF, no sale. No override. Probably I could just front up and pay cash, but they radiate hostility to cash paying customers. Any clues on how this works - or not - gratefully received.
Mr Enternational is indeed correct about lame massage. Meanwhile, I witnessed a foul mouthed (wh) ore flinging abuse and throwing shit at some guy. It is reminder that underneath their practiced smiles and cooing most of the ladies do not like their work or customers. Funny thing is that the more he laughed at her, then a couple of other guys joined in the merriment, one crazy chick turning red and free entertainment for the boys.
What is cpf? The post below has been concerned. Is that have to do with covid vaccination status? I'm coming from the US so does my white vaccine card work. This is definitely concerning for me since I'm going to be in Rio end of October.
Last Oct, a buddy of mine made our maiden voyage to Rio and had a blast (posted a TR).
Thailand opened up in November and spent 4 weeks there to end the year. Went back to Thailand In Apirl 2021 and just got back last week.
Even in thailand I was itching to get back to Rio so I convinced a buddy to join me end of Oct for a week of craziness.
Last year 4 x4 was yet to reopen but we had a blast in Centaurus, Montecarlo and Solarium (which was our favorite).
Last year although outdated someone had a Google map with adult spots pinned. Does that map still exist and has it ever been updated?
I want to try more prives this year. Last year my buddy and I had a hard time locating shops. So we often "settled" for website freelancers.
My buddy and I like to party and drink to buzzed state with ladies. So nice that 4 x4 has bottle service? And this time will try to check out a disco or two.
Saw some post on here that vaccines will be required for entry as of mid Sept? I'm Vaxed but my buddy isn't yet. Tried to look online and saw no credible mention or vaccine needed for entry to termas etc.
We haven't found a place yet. But looking at Airbnb. Just like in Thailand we like renting a nice place to host some small private parties.
Look forward to getting back and updating our adventures. Thanks for any feedback on my questions.
At PM, the right name is [URL]https://www.autoviacao1001.com.br/[/URL].
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2603953]What is cpf? The post below has been concerned. Is that have to do with covid vaccination status? I'm coming from the US so does my white vaccine card work. This is definitely concerning for me since I'm going to be in Rio end of October.[/QUOTE]Tax ID number. Like Social Security Number in the US. In Brazil they ask for the number for a lot of purchases you may make, such as at a department store (optional) or when doing some stuff online like purchasing tickets. Some websites will not advance if you do not enter a CPF.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2603808]In the States my choice is to lower my standards or go celibate. I can't go celibate. I've reached the stage though where I've got to get out of here.[/QUOTE]You ought to live while you're living because once you're dead you are dead.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2603934]Cannot do anything without a CPF. Bus ticket to Buzios? No... So instead of R80 for the bus I took a private car for 200. Not bad value I suppose.[/QUOTE]What's the problem with buying a ticket at the Rodoviária? It couldn't be more simple. A bus ticket cost between 58-86 reais, and leaves abou every second hour. If you want to buy the bus ticket in advance there is a place in Copacabana that sell bus tickets, their shop is on Rua Dias the Rocha.
Besides at the back entrance to the rodoviaria there are guys calling out destinations where you can go in their vans or cars. They leave as soon as the vans / cars are full. In March last year it cost me are $70 going to búzios in the front seat of a car with three more passengers in the back.
[QUOTE=Questner;2603650]Apologize for the question, everyone is tired with this malady, but.
'As of September 15,2021, to enter places of collective use, cariocas and tourists will have to prove that they have been vaccinated against COVID-19. Municipal Decree No. 49.335, of August 26,2021, determines that the digital vaccination card of the ConectaSUS application, the vaccination card itself or a letterhead of the Municipal Health Department be presented at the entrance. '.
(Original text: A partir de 15 de setembro de 2021, para entrar them locais de uso coletivo, cariocas e turistas vo another site que comprovar que se vacinaram contra a COVID-19. O Decreto Municipal and 49.335, de 26 de agosto de 2021 determina que seja apresentada entrada a carteira de vacinao digital do aplicativo ConecteSUS, o prprio carto de vacinao ou um papel timbrado the Secretaria Municipal de Sade.).
[URL]https://conectesus-paciente.saude.gov.br/[/URL] this site should be used to get a digital card.
So, as tourist, what are exactly my steps to get things done and get this digital card?[/QUOTE]From what I've read on different sites, the vaxx cards will only be checked at museums, movies, stadiums and some popular (and crowded) tourist sites. Bars and restaurants are exempt. Foreign vaxx cards will be accepted.
[URL]https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210827-rio-mandates-vaccines-for-tourist-spots-public-spaces[/URL]
[QUOTE=TravelBug2020;2603974]Last Oct, a buddy of mine made our maiden voyage to Rio and had a blast (posted a TR).
Thailand opened up in November and spent 4 weeks there to end the year. Went back to Thailand In Apirl 2021 and just got back last week.
[/QUOTE]What do you mean Thailand opened up in Nov? Far as I know, it just opened the Phuket sandbox in June, and it's going to open other sandboxes in other cities in Oct. And it seems the process to get into that sandbox has a lot of hoops to jump through.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2604099]What do you mean Thailand opened up in Nov? Far as I know, it just opened the Phuket sandbox in June, and it's going to open other sandboxes in other cities in Oct. And it seems the process to get into that sandbox has a lot of hoops to jump through.[/QUOTE]You have always been able to go to Thailand; you would have just had to quarantine 2 weeks in a hotel. The only difference with the sandbox is that you are allowed to go outside.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604108]You have always been able to go to Thailand; you would have just had to quarantine 2 weeks in a hotel. The only difference with the sandbox is that you are allowed to go outside.[/QUOTE]Well, I mean the OP said TH opened last November. To me, having to quarantine is the opposite of being opened. Who would want to be locked in a hotel room for 2 weeks?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2604116]Well, I mean the OP said TH opened last November. To me, having to quarantine is the opposite of being opened. Who would want to be locked in a hotel room for 2 weeks?[/QUOTE]You have your own definition of Open. Open to me was that I was able to enter TH with a tourist visa and contrary to many, the process was quite simple.
Yes, in November I had to do 14 Day Quarantine. But it hardly any different from my life in the USA. I worked Remotely, didn't use any vacation time and caught up on a lot of personal todo things. The room was big and nice with 3 really good meals a day.
And then once quarantine finished to be back in Thailand without mass tourism was amazing. Koh phi phi with no tourists? Etc. Was really nice to get some of those amazing islands to yourself with extremely low prices. Plus the prices of woman dropped. Hot gogo girls prices were much lower. Beers cheaper. It was just a great time to go prior to current lockdown measures.
But back to Rio. I found a copy of that Google map on another topic. Excited to get back.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2604116]Well, I mean the OP said TH opened last November. To me, having to quarantine is the opposite of being opened. Who would want to be locked in a hotel room for 2 weeks?[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's the sticking point, the damn quarantine. I don't need to tell you about the comparative difference between getting into Thailand or the PI vrs. Brazil. The speculative word I have heard is Songkran; the Thai Government is planning a big SongkranN quarantine free welcome back to Thailand provided the vaccination rollout continues and barring any future complications, but who knows what the fine points may be to this grand re-opening plan of theirs. I guess we just have to wait and see.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2603840]But I can't get it up for women who fall below a 7 on my scale. So, I choose celibacy instead.[/QUOTE]Young man I see you have not yet started to utilize coitus boosters.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2604043]You ought to live while you're living because once you're dead you are dead.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reminding me of the mission statement of everyone on ISG.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2599802]Are single guys allowed in? I live in the US and some club single guys are allowed in and others only single woman. I had pretty good success but I don't know if I would in Brazil are since I don't speak any Portuguese.[/QUOTE]Check the websites for the various swing clubs, they do have singles night usually on an off night like Wednesday or Thursday. The single guys in there vary from just a perv jerking off looking at other couples or a couple who might enjoy an extra guy and I've even seen a girl on her knees with 3 cocks in her mouth. But most are just pervs which I guess is ok if that's your thing. Single guys will pay much extra to enter.
Speaking Portuguese really is not required because not much talking is going on at all between couples, if you are close to a couple and you slip your hand on another girls breasts or between her legs and she is good with it and the other guy does it to your girl and you are good with it then things progress without words believe me. Now I have had conversations with other couples in the smoking area or in the lounge, sometimes to exchange numbers but in the sex rooms not much talking going on.
I think it's better to go with a girl on the weekend, sometimes I just go down to Mabs at 11 PM and ask a nice girl if she wants to go to a swing club, most of them will say yes and they love it. Brazilian guys like big asses, last time I was there I met a fairly big ass but fit mature woman and the brazilian guys loved her which gave me lots of opportunity with their girls, It was a good night. On another night I went with a much younger very slim girl I met in Dolce Vita, I didn't get as much action as I did with the older one, it varies from night to night. But having a good looking young girl with you helps. Also a lot of the women in these places are Bi sexual, so there is a lot of DATY going on.
Ana is coming over today. I feel the need for some 20 year old negra negra negra pussy. BBFS. With baby oil.
Nina deponca came over last week. It was 3 girls last week, down from my normal 6.
I don't write up every stroke now. I am sure you guys miss me. Haha.
Of course, you have to bring your own pussy. I mean, WTF.
You work it on gparena for like a minute, and you bring a prive girl or a freelancer.
[QUOTE=Rio Bob;2604225]Check the websites for the various swing clubs, they do have singles night usually on an off night like Wednesday or Thursday. The single guys in there vary from just a perv jerking off looking at other couples or a couple who might enjoy an extra guy and I've even seen a girl on her knees with 3 cocks in her mouth. But most are just pervs which I guess is ok if that's your thing. Single guys will pay much extra to enter.
. . .
I think it's better to go with a girl on the weekend, sometimes I just go down to Mabs at 11 PM and ask a nice girl if she wants to go to a swing club, most of them will say yes and they love it. . .[/QUOTE]
Rio Bob, as always, a great succinct and very helpful report on swinging. This time, details on picking up a escort or "plus-one", for a swing club festa and what to expect from your "spinner" or "phat-ass" choice at a swing club.
For example, I was just checking 2a2 Swing Club [URL]www.2a2.com.br[/URL], and on a Thursday nights where single guys are allowed in, it's are R$300 and are R$350 without vaccination card (R$50 consumable) and thought that's fucking pretty penny for Brazilian guys to spend to just jerk and wack-off.
Anyway, just curious for guys looking to pickup a date at Mabs/Dolce Vita (or other from other venues/websites) for swinging, in today's market place, [I]what is the cost range (per event or per hour), one can expect to pay said date? [/I].
Relatively speaking, it doesn't seem like it would be much more than the single guy's R$300/R$350 wankers fee?
[QUOTE=TravelBug2020;2604190]You have your own definition of Open. [/QUOTE]That's true, I do (LOL), but you're right and I take it back. I can travel for 2 weeks at a time tops, but for folks without these limitations a chance to see Thailand sans tourists sounds amazing!
Has anyone had any safety incidents while in Rio?
Also, has anyone noticed any Asians in Rio?
I'm Asian and nervous that I may stick out as a target for thieves.
So yeah, I regularly see safety issues. Since I have a brigade of swiss Naval Infantry disguised as maintenance guys in all the buildings of Barra, it's no problem. We just whack the enemy with well aimed, silenced shots from M27 Infantry Automatic Rifles firing 77 grain black hills ammo with 8 power scopes in the M38 configuration, even though I served with Callsign CHAOS in RcT7 as a exchange officer in that damned 29 Stumps heat.
So, swinging is a athletic event. Listen men last week, callsign Vagabundo banged seka for 3 hours while her husband some endurance athlete banged monique. Cashflows are incidental. I paid Monique her usual, 400 pernoite for 2 nights and paid for drinks. Priceless is fucking a blonde for 3 hours and making the blond be a slave to the black girl.
So, you move in a wedge until you take contact, then you throw a smoke grenade to cover the danger area, and you call up a few Germans. Game over.
Asians are not allowed in Rio.
The Mexicans round them up and send them to sao Paulo.
The swiss send Germans to put them in all Asian areas in downtown with the Italian Swiss from Lugano.
[QUOTE=SlipperyBanana;2604390]Has anyone had any safety incidents while in Rio?
Also, has anyone noticed any Asians in Rio?
I'm Asian and nervous that I may stick out as a target for thieves.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlipperyBanana;2604390]Has anyone had any safety incidents while in Rio?
Also, has anyone noticed any Asians in Rio?
I'm Asian and nervous that I may stick out as a target for thieves.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of Brasilians of Asian descent. Way more in Sao Paulo than in Rio, but nevertheless there are some in Rio. In fact, one of my all time favorite GDPs in Rio was of Japanese descent.
And given that Rio is a major tourist destination, there are plenty of Asian tourists. You will not stand our in the slightest.
Of course many of us have had incidents. Rio is well / known for not being the safest place. Keep your wits about you and you should be fine.
[URL]https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk[/URL]
OK, you need to learn Portuguese.
Here you go.
[QUOTE=SlipperyBanana;2604390]Has anyone had any safety incidents while in Rio?
Also, has anyone noticed any Asians in Rio?
I'm Asian and nervous that I may stick out as a target for thieves.[/QUOTE]The major safety incident is when raining, short Brazilians carry their umbrellas in my eye-hight almost sticking it into me eyes. Falling coconuts is also a major safety incident.
Half the lanchonette owners are Asian and 100% of the owners of cheap stuff are Asians.
[QUOTE=SlipperyBanana;2604390]Also, has anyone noticed any Asians in Rio? I'm Asian and nervous that I may stick out as a target for thieves.[/QUOTE]Chinese have taken over ownership of most of the lanchonetes or snack bars. You don't have to be Asian to be robbed. If those mfs will rob Pele then they will rob anyone. The thieves don't discriminate. You will stick out based on what you have, not what you look like.
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/23/brazil.brazil[/url]
[QUOTE=TravelBug2020;2604190]You have your own definition of Open. Open to me was that I was able to enter TH with a tourist visa and contrary to many, the process was quite simple.
Yes, in November I had to do 14 Day Quarantine. But it hardly any different from my life in the USA. I worked Remotely, didn't use any vacation time and caught up on a lot of personal todo things. The room was big and nice with 3 really good meals a day.
And then once quarantine finished to be back in Thailand without mass tourism was amazing. Koh phi phi with no tourists? Etc. Was really nice to get some of those amazing islands to yourself with extremely low prices. Plus the prices of woman dropped. Hot gogo girls prices were much lower. Beers cheaper. It was just a great time to go prior to current lockdown measures.
But back to Rio. I found a copy of that Google map on another topic. Excited to get back.[/QUOTE]Google map with Clínicas location?
[QUOTE=Spidy;2604328]Rio Bob, as always, a great succinct and very helpful report on swinging. This time, details on picking up a escort or "plus-one", for a swing club festa and what to expect from your "spinner" or "phat-ass" choice at a swing club.
For example, I was just checking 2a2 Swing Club [URL]www.2a2.com.br[/URL], and on a Thursday nights where single guys are allowed in, it's are R$300 and are R$350 without vaccination card (R$50 consumable) and thought that's fucking pretty penny for Brazilian guys to spend to just jerk and wack-off.
Anyway, just curious for guys looking to pickup a date at Mabs/Dolce Vita (or other from other venues/websites) for swinging, in today's market place, [I]what is the cost range (per event or per hour), one can expect to pay said date? [/I].
Relatively speaking, it doesn't seem like it would be much more than the single guy's R$300/R$350 wankers fee?[/QUOTE]Going to a swing club with a paid provider is not a cheap night out. If you consider the amount of time she is going to spend with you and all the work especially if you get a lot of action. Usually I start out on the date with dinner, we eat in a nice restaurant, good food and wine, relax and have fun. Then we go to 2 a2 , hang in the lounge and have some drinks, look around at other women and think about fucking them. Then maybe go into the boite where they have a DJ, dance a little, check out other couples.
When they open the upstairs sex rooms everybody goes upstairs. You could be up there couple hours, maybe she screws 2 or 3 guys, you screw their girls. Sometimes you come downstairs for a break and a drink, you leave at 4 am.
For some reason most of these girls want to go back to my place again and fuck me and spend the night, maybe it's too late to travel home.
At today's rate I have given these girls 500 to 700 reais for an all nighter and they worked for it.
[URL]https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=WOnzT3hsCiM&feature=share[/URL]
This is good music.
To fuck.
And smoke.
So after Ana foxxx, they didn't clean my room.
So the new girl gets all jealous and takes a lighter to my dick, playfully. She does also fuck BBFS.
Vagabundo.
Who still has a dick, but if I should get it burned off in the middle of the night, I probably deserve it.
Have some sympathy, have some taste.
That sounds right.
I paid Monique 400 pernoite and 350 for drinks at the beach. The swinger couple we picked up were a endurance athlete of some type who works at a pharma company, who fucked Monique, and then I fucked his blonde wife, Seka all night, well 3 hours, bare back, up her ass. I had started using her nice blonde mouth at the beach, along with a big black dude, and her husband. The whole night I kept up with my talk about we are going to buy you as a blonde slave for my black girl friend. Seka liked this nasty talk, especially coming from a gringo, and at the highlight of the night, she took my dick out of her pussy and put it up her ass, where I shot my load up her butt. I banged her like 3 hours, and made her eat out Monique. It was great.
750 reais.
I mean, that really is priceless.
[QUOTE=RioBob;2604558]Going to a swing club with a paid provider is not a cheap night out. If you consider the amount of time she is going to spend with you and all the work especially if you get a lot of action. Usually I start out on the date with dinner, we eat in a nice restaurant, good food and wine, relax and have fun. Then we go to 2 a2 , hang in the lounge and have some drinks, look around at other women and think about fucking them. Then maybe go into the boite where they have a DJ, dance a little, check out other couples.
When they open the upstairs sex rooms everybody goes upstairs. You could be up there couple hours, maybe she screws 2 or 3 guys, you screw their girls. Sometimes you come downstairs for a break and a drink, you leave at 4 am.
For some reason most of these girls want to go back to my place again and fuck me and spend the night, maybe it's too late to travel home.
At today's rate I have given these girls 500 to 700 reais for an all nighter and they worked for it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604484]Chinese have taken over ownership of most of the lanchonetes or snack bars. You don't have to be Asian to be robbed. If those mfs will rob Pele then they will rob anyone. The thieves don't discriminate. You will stick out based on what you have, not what you look like.
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/23/brazil.brazil[/url][/QUOTE]I cannot believe they robbed Pele. That man brought Brazil on the map.
The best hookers are returning to [URL]barravipsrio.com[/URL] like the swallows return to Capistrano like the salmon return to the river they were spawned in.
I like adventurous places and young, more natural girls and the information here is a little overwhelming for me. Really much. Do you have a tip where I should start? Maybe someone wants to get out of here together?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604484]Chinese have taken over ownership of most of the lanchonetes or snack bars.[/QUOTE]This is how global domination starts.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2604963]This is how global domination starts.[/QUOTE]But they are doing it by using money and buying stuff, whereas the Europeans did it by using weapons and diseases to kill.
Just landed in Rio after spending a fun week in SP. If anyone wants to hit the termas together or anything, PM me. I'll be here for a couple days.
Having a great time. What always amazes me is a cute 19 year old, via google translate, "I want to fuck your ass and cum in your mouth" and I get a little giggle, smile and "sim". One winked at me. I nearly came there and then in my pants. Such a huge and radical change from USA. Last two weeks I have fucked over a dozen teen bottoms with passionate kissing as I erupt in them. And they encourage me to do it again. For about $usd 18 for a real hour.
One black girl had amazing pressure and tightness, gripping me as if she was milking me, and suppose she was.
America is such bullshit. Safer in Rio than many us cities.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2605094]Having a great time. What always amazes me is a cute 19 year old, via google translate, "I want to fuck your ass and cum in your mouth" and I get a little giggle, smile and "sim". One winked at me. I nearly came there and then in my pants. Such a huge and radical change from USA. Last two weeks I have fucked over a dozen teen bottoms with passionate kissing as I erupt in them. And they encourage me to do it again. For about $usd 18 for a real hour.
One black girl had amazing pressure and tightness, gripping me as if she was milking me, and suppose she was.
America is such bullshit. Safer in Rio than many us cities.[/QUOTE]Agree made my voyage trip to Rio last Oct and was blown away with the sex performance, willingness and eagerness to get ass fucked and swallowing my load. I'll be back a little over 30 days.
Where are you finding these girls you speak of? Going to termas or freelance websites?
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2604844]I cannot believe they robbed Pele. That man brought Brazil on the map.[/QUOTE]I'm willing to wager the kids who robbed him had no idea who he was until they heard it on the evening news.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2605094]Having a great time. What always amazes me is a cute 19 year old, via google translate, "I want to fuck your ass and cum in your mouth" and I get a little giggle, smile and "sim". One winked at me. I nearly came there and then in my pants. Such a huge and radical change from USA. Last two weeks I have fucked over a dozen teen bottoms with passionate kissing as I erupt in them. And they encourage me to do it again. For about $usd 18 for a real hour.
One black girl had amazing pressure and tightness, gripping me as if she was milking me, and suppose she was.
America is such bullshit. Safer in Rio than many us cities.[/QUOTE]It's soooo difficult getting back to the US and having to accept the mediocre sex and BS given about having requests like anal, CIM and specially BBFS. I never got a frown from anyone in Brazil when requested, sure BBFS was not provided in a first visit, but many mentioned it could happen in subsequent visits. I think that unless you can comeback once in awhile you're better off not tasting the Brazilian girls, your life will never be the same!
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2605094]
America is such bullshit. Safer in Rio than many us cities.[/QUOTE]Um, well no. Rio is not safe. We all have our stories how we walked down side streets in Copa at night and nothing happened, how we walked Centro at night and nothing happened, etc. Well, just because nothing has happened yet doesn't mean it won't. Keep your wits around you at all times, it's when you start feeling totally safe, shit tends to happen.
I agree when you are in country where crime is high it important always be alert. When I visit Tijuana I always look to see who is behind me. This especially important in areas where you are alone.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2605189]Um, well no. Rio is not safe. We all have our stories how we walked down side streets in Copa at night and nothing happened, how we walked Centro at night and nothing happened, etc. Well, just because nothing has happened yet doesn't mean it won't. Keep your wits around you at all times, it's when you start feeling totally safe, shit tends to happen.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RioBob;2604558]Going to a swing club with a paid provider is not a cheap night out. If you consider the amount of time she is going to spend with you and all the work especially if you get a lot of action. Usually I start out on the date with dinner, we eat in a nice restaurant, good food and wine, relax and have fun. Then we go to 2 a2 , hang in the lounge and have some drinks, look around at other women and think about fucking them. Then maybe go into the boite where they have a DJ, dance a little, check out other couples.
When they open the upstairs sex rooms everybody goes upstairs. You could be up there couple hours, maybe she screws 2 or 3 guys, you screw their girls. Sometimes you come downstairs for a break and a drink, you leave at 4 am.
For some reason most of these girls want to go back to my place again and fuck me and spend the night, maybe it's too late to travel home.
At today's rate I have given these girls 500 to 700 reais for an all nighter and they worked for it. [/QUOTE]Gotta say, you definitely know how to show your escort/dates a good time. Great way too spend the evening, night and early morning, with a hot date. I thought to myself, it almost sounds like [i]"SA with mad benefits"[/i]...kkk
What's the age old adage, "wine, women, dinner, song and dance" (...or something to that effect), certainly serves you well and judging from the many historical swinging reports you've provided over the years, is it any wonder. Max Kudos!
Absolutely, these are some good basic fundamentals, one can apply to up their swinging game. Interestingly enough though, their has been an up tick in the talk and interest surrounding swinging in some of the other threads like the [I]"German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat"[/I] and the [I]"Seeking Arrangements", especially when it comes to hooking up with Brasileiras and swinging in RJ and SP, Brazil.[/I]
Albeit a little pricey, but not that bad, when you consider the hours and time spent, GFE service/foreplay, the potential of fucking multiple women and the fun, fondling and sex-play at the clubs. I'm sure it's money well spent and provides an indelible wealth of memories. In short, "king of the world".
Definitely something I'll be considering a bit more, the next time I'm in town, should the right situation present itself.
Where I find them ? Not in clubs or termas ! I have hunted and pecked, one via a mention in these esteemed pages, others by photoacompanhantes and some girls giving me numbers of their friends. Today I had a threesome, two late 20's girls who are good friends and so everything on the table. Double BJ, one rubbing alternately licking and rubbing my balls as I fucked her friend, then kissing me as she rubbed my balls and her friend rode cowboy up the butt. Then swap. Lots of giggles and playfulness. Then a nice dinner, more fun thanks to Mr. Google voice translate. Kiss goodnight and blowing me playful kisses goodbye followed up with some zap love hearts. These girls were experienced, friendly, and knew all the moves, drained me 3 times over 2 hours. R300 or roughly USD58. Did not charge for a lovely dinner together. kkkkkkkkk.
So much good quality sex, little shame (normal and healthy natural biology), friendly people. I've traveled a fair bit, Arraial de Cabo, Saquarema and Buzios, took a temporary wife with me, nice beaches, BJ on beach under the stars, cold beer. Got the "mini-relationship" experience, holding hands etc. I like the culture, does not have the USA hard core black and white religious BS or schizophrenic hyper sexualized advertising and super uptight women / paranoia about a bit of flesh. American sexuality is really messed up. Brazil I see a lot more laughter, spontaneous "come and join our table" at restaurants, harmless flirting and a whole lot more give and take generally. Working girls do not have the crushing stigma and demonization of the USA. Brazil constitutionally guarantees basic health care to everyone, and STD testing and treatment is free / cheap and easy to get and drugs are affordable or free.
No regular mass shootings either. Its roads are a mess, it has corruption, but so does USA, on a massive scale if you count bought off congressman that hide behind lawyers, bullshit and lies (all the same racket, including politicians in black robes and lawyers on commission legally able to blackmail people and companies).
Compared to Los Angeles and many other cities with out of control homelessness, uptight, brittle people, thuggish militarized police, weaponizing sex work, and roughly the equivalent of a sexual desert in price and quality, it is a no brainier. I will start learning porto and hope to return soon. We might thank COVID for normalizing work from home. I think the changes will be far bigger than many realize on overpriced real estate and money printing that is all that holds it aloft. USA is just getting too violent, cops love using toys of repression and arresting people in handcuffs for trivial stuff, like underage teens with a beer or guys wanting to pay an adult woman for consensual handjob. They have no regard to the extreme trauma, humiliation and permanent hatred and distrust of the government it generates, even if subsequently let go. The bridges are burned forever on what was already an iffy social contract. Cops have no idea or don't care what a total invasion this is, the equivalent of psychological rape. Really sick. It's some sort of puritanical domination with a strong racist tinge, the statistics and experience make that clear. Has not happened to me, but I know others who went on economic war against the govt after that.
As to safety: be careful, do not wear fancy watches or clothes, centro is far more risky than Copa (unless you are past Nossa), obviously pay attention. Don't leave phones / valuables on beaches. Same as Venice Beach in CA. Being hand in hand with a girl helps I think. Had a great time, swimming clean ocean, sandy feet, salty kisses, BJ's and lots of touch and playful affection, everyone happy, the girls, the girls families in many cases, me, and the Brazilian economy.
Hi mongers,
I'm visiting Rio for 2 weeks in October and working on planning the trip.
I'm wondering, what are the most effective routes for finding the hottest girls? I don't care about price or difficulty, just interested in the routes that most reliably find the 9's and 10's. I'm most interested in slim, young girls (18-22).
From what I've read, it sounds like the best quality comes form independent, online providers. What are the best ways to find these?
Likewise, what are the best in-person approaches for finding top quality girls? From what I've read, it sounds like sometimes you can find excellent, young talent as street walkers in certain places. Where are the best places for this?
I'm a reasonably attractive, fit man with some game, so I'm also curious about opinions for difficulty pursuing non-pro and semi-pro girls vs proper working girls, especially regarding top-quality young girls. Again, no concern regarding price or effort / difficulty, just interested in most effective methods for finding the hottest girls.
Ideally, I'm trying to figure out the best way to hire 3-5 girls to spend about a week with me on a friend's yacht. That said, we'll be in the city for about a week and also looking for how to find the hottest girls land-side.
Thanks.
Friday.
Well, give me a shout. We could link up before you leave.
Friday, Vagabundo had 4 regulars hitting him up, but he opted to hang out with Billy a retired cop who works at a law firm that represents lapa irish bar.
Vagabundo and the 74 year old cop sat on a street corner in lapa and drank.
We watched the hookers go by -- the she males. But there are non pro girls there too, and attractive ones. Vagabundo had pernoites BBFS the previous 2 nights.
So he was well nut busted, and the saying goes, bros before hoes.
Vagabundo concurs with Senor Maximus on all the contrasts with the USA.
The puritans in skirts with tax the rich on their asses will cut off your balls and feed them to you.
Safety is being able to bust a nut in a bare pussy as much as you want (go to VM, and in centro to 116).
Visitors come to Rio so fucking pussy whipped it hurts to be around them.
Look, vagabundo is not a therapist.
Don't whine about your anxiety.
Just do as I say.
Go to the centro prives during the day.
Pay 70 reais for a half with 2 hookers, pick one and do a night time session for 120.
Do it every day until you get your anxiety down, and then pick the best one from the week to go to a swing party or the beach.
If you don't like looking at other naked men, then just do overnights with her.
Do not, ask vagabundo "where are the termas where there are only 18 year olds who bareback".
The answer is 116.
There you must go, and be ready to talk the local linqua.
"quero vc sem camisinha. Estou limpio. Tenho prova" (take our your test).
Offer more cash.
Get a yes, or move on quickly.
And stop your whining.
Vagabundo is just a Swiss banker, retired from the Swiss naval infantry. Buy Swiss army gear at rio branco 156. The royalties go to supporting Swiss veterans, like vagabundo so they can fuck hookers until they die.
Ok, so Friday, vagabundo could have banged any of the aforementioned hookers, but he was a bro, and he bought billy a bottle of dreher, and a plate of food.
Then he went to 116, grabbed a hooker by the pussy, and they decided to fuck in the morning because she was tired.
Vagabundo squeezed her big clit hard just to punish the hooker a little then took a uber back to barra.
His balls are full of milk she will swallow after sucking his dick ass to mouth for the better part of an hour.
Her name is cereja, and she is a morena clara, 18, from jacarizino, where the cops whacked a bunch of locals. She's probably a drug criminal dick sucker, which pumps my nads.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2605465]Where I find them ? Not in clubs or termas ! I have hunted and pecked, one via a mention in these esteemed pages, others by photoacompanhantes and some girls giving me numbers of their friends. Today I had a threesome, two late 20's girls who are good friends and so everything on the table. Double BJ, one rubbing alternately licking and rubbing my balls as I fucked her friend, then kissing me as she rubbed my balls and her friend rode cowboy up the butt. Then swap. Lots of giggles and playfulness. Then a nice dinner, more fun thanks to Mr. Google voice translate. Kiss goodnight and blowing me playful kisses goodbye followed up with some zap love hearts. These girls were experienced, friendly, and knew all the moves, drained me 3 times over 2 hours. R300 or roughly USD58. Did not charge for a lovely dinner together. kkkkkkkkk.
So much good quality sex, little shame (normal and healthy natural biology), friendly people. I've traveled a fair bit, Arraial de Cabo, Saquarema and Buzios, took a temporary wife with me, nice beaches, BJ on beach under the stars, cold beer. Got the "mini-relationship" experience, holding hands etc. I like the culture, does not have the USA hard core black and white religious BS or schizophrenic hyper sexualized advertising and super uptight women / paranoia about a bit of flesh. American sexuality is really messed up. Brazil I see a lot more laughter, spontaneous "come and join our table" at restaurants, harmless flirting and a whole lot more give and take generally. Working girls do not have the crushing stigma and demonization of the USA. Brazil constitutionally guarantees basic health care to everyone, and STD testing and treatment is free / cheap and easy to get and drugs are affordable or free..[/QUOTE]
I booking a double bed room for me only in olindo hotel and ask at the reception today to have someone to visit me.
No extra charge is neccessary. Good point, because I thought it was a bad decision to take this place.
[QUOTE=Dodochen;2605669]I booking a double bed room for me only in olindo hotel and ask at the reception today to have someone to visit me.
No extra charge is neccessary. Good point, because I thought it was a bad decision to take this place.[/QUOTE]Good feedback. Last years stayed at Pestana which was GF. But for my trip next month their rates are much higher so was looking for an alternative.
Vagabundo. R70 (USD 14) for 2 girls for 30 minutes that's pretty amazing. R200 a night also amazing. Easy to be drained and at peace, always smiling!
I know the feeling, getting lucky every day, so much sex in every skin colour, slim, busty, blondes, red heads, black, in every position, single, doubles, you name it, though a BJ on the beach under a starry night with the waves crashing was really awesome, especially after a day of swimming and surfing. Bought her an Acai to rinse away sperm in her little mouth and delicate feminine lips. Slept soundly like a baby with seabreeze through my R100 a night beach view shack. Lazy saturday morning, session. We are living like kings
So much BS. Capital is not taxed at all, as intended. The W2's just do not get it and get fleeced. They then consistently vote against self economic interest and are easily conned with words like "socialism" they do not even understand already exists in the USA, especially corporate welfare, that is massive, cash payments, zero tax, loopholes, you name it. The entire system is designed to rip them off and cover it with deliberately shit education, lies, bullshit, marketing, spin and patriotic jingos.
Yes, sensible US men who come here will never again accept the pussy scarcity and entitled fat cows back home.
To be clear, that is 50 are for 20 minutes with 1 girl in tdm 33, and then another session of the same length (70 are for a half hour).
That is 140 r.
Then you do a 120 r hour with her at your place.
That's a pro forma 3 girl day for 280 are all in.
Generally, after a few nights, you can just be doing pernoite for 350 r on average.
Offer 2 or 3 times a week.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2605731]Vagabundo. R70 (USD 14) for 2 girls for 30 minutes that's pretty amazing. R200 a night also amazing. Easy to be drained and at peace, always smiling!
I know the feeling, getting lucky every day, so much sex in every skin colour, slim, busty, blondes, red heads, black, in every position, single, doubles, you name it, though a BJ on the beach under a starry night with the waves crashing was really awesome, especially after a day of swimming and surfing. Bought her an Acai to rinse away sperm in her little mouth and delicate feminine lips. Slept soundly like a baby with seabreeze through my R100 a night beach view shack. Lazy saturday morning, session. We are living like kings
So much BS. Capital is not taxed at all, as intended. The W2's just do not get it and get fleeced. They then consistently vote against self economic interest and are easily conned with words like "socialism" they do not even understand already exists in the USA, especially corporate welfare, that is massive, cash payments, zero tax, loopholes, you name it. The entire system is designed to rip them off and cover it with deliberately shit education, lies, bullshit, marketing, spin and patriotic jingos.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2605465]
So much good quality sex, little shame (normal and healthy natural biology), friendly people. I've traveled a fair bit, Arraial de Cabo, Saquarema and Buzios, took a temporary wife with me, nice beaches, BJ on beach under the stars, cold beer. Got the "mini-relationship" experience, holding hands etc. I like the culture, does not have the USA hard core black and white religious BS or schizophrenic hyper sexualized advertising and super uptight women / paranoia about a bit of flesh. American sexuality is really messed up. Brazil I see a lot more laughter, spontaneous "come and join our table" at restaurants, harmless flirting and a whole lot more[/QUOTE]Where did you stay in Buzios? How was it?
Looking at spending a weekend there in January with a girl I had the last time I was in SP. I thought about going outside of sao paulk but decided not to waste time dealing with the logistics and go directly to buzios from Rio after my meetings.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2605617]
The puritans in skirts with tax the rich on their asses will cut off your balls and feed them to you.
[/QUOTE]Is this the puritan you were referring to? [URL]https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1339033546313371648?s=20[/URL].
Interesting how people here always complain about the liberal feminists making America such a pussy desert, while they're the ones who come closest to supporting our hobby.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2605836]Is this the puritan you were referring to? [URL]https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1339033546313371648?s=20[/URL].
Interesting how people here always complain about the liberal feminists making America such a pussy desert, while they're the ones who come closest to supporting our hobby.[/QUOTE]Some do and some don't.
[QUOTE=Combo;2605837]Some do and some don't.[/QUOTE]Interestingly, that's true. There is no united front there. Some feminists are pro-prostitution and see it as an economic choice, and others see it as exploitation. It would be fun to try and find a correlation between their views and their, let's call it, Eye Candy Coefficient (ECC). I'd venture a guess that most feminists with a negative ECC would be anti-prostitution.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2605861]Interestingly, that's true. There is no united front there. Some feminists are pro-prostitution and see it as an economic choice, and others see it as exploitation. It would be fun to try and find a correlation between their views and their, let's call it, Eye Candy Coefficient (ECC). I'd venture a guess that most feminists with a negative ECC would be anti-prostitution.[/QUOTE]I'd say most leftists I know, especially younger ones, are pro-sex workers while simultaneously viewing it as exploitation. Because isn't 90% of all work some form of exploitation? You think it's these girls dreams to be sucking the dick of a stranger 2 x her age? You think it's a guy's dream to be filling out spreadsheets every day?
[QUOTE=Rextor;2605967]I'd say most leftists I know, especially younger ones, are pro-sex workers while simultaneously viewing it as exploitation. Because isn't 90% of all work some form of exploitation? You think it's these girls dreams to be sucking the dick of a stranger 2 x her age? You think it's a guy's dream to be filling out spreadsheets every day?[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that while the pro-sex work female Leftists view the SWorkers as "brave" and "empowered", we (the customer) are still viewed with scorn and derision. This is because women generally, and ideologically motivated activists specifically, are experts at living within extremely high levels of cognitive dissonance that would break most people.
Do you really think AOC and her ilk has anything but contempt for the average monger?
Vagabundo is channeling his inner Lionel Richie.
A negra is sitting next to him, Geisha. Hell, I've run out of porn star names to designate the new spy recruits.
I've been working some higher value targets but she offered her friend for a dupla, and I paid the white slave girl 200 last night and fucked her ass good after putting a dog collar on her and making her eat out the black girl's pussy, and vice versa.
Then I fucked Geisha.
Then she gave me a awesome backrub which is why I keep her.
Slept well.
Watching a war movie (another good thing) on Netflix.
Then we fucked in the morning (again).
Ordered lots of juice and quiche Lorraine over the mobile phone.
Ordered an acai milkshake.
Yes, being a man in the rich world is a bad deal.
Come to Rio.
Don't look back.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2605967]I'd say most leftists I know, especially younger ones, are pro-sex workers while simultaneously viewing it as exploitation. Because isn't 90% of all work some form of exploitation? You think it's these girls dreams to be sucking the dick of a stranger 2 x her age? You think it's a guy's dream to be filling out spreadsheets every day?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rextor;2605967]I'd say most leftists I know, especially younger ones, are pro-sex workers while simultaneously viewing it as exploitation. Because isn't 90% of all work some form of exploitation? You think it's these girls dreams to be sucking the dick of a stranger 2 x her age? You think it's a guy's dream to be filling out spreadsheets every day?[/QUOTE]I'm not too sure about leftists but I know for sure the right wingers are against prostitution. The US is sex prison because of the right wing evangelists.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2606001]I'm not too sure about leftists but I know for sure the right wingers are against prostitution. The US is sex prison because of the right wing evangelists.[/QUOTE]I think you are wrong there. The suffragette movement in America is responsible for prohibition and prostitution laws and their enforcement. Up until the 1920's there were houses of the rising sun in just about every county in America. Everyone went to them and enjoyed themselves including judges, politicians, police officials and ordinary citizens. Read some William Faulkner or John Steinbeck if you don't believe me.
I was yesterday in Casablanca. Many girls, like 25 Girls. Normaly go out with the girl is 150 BRL and the girl want 400-500 BRL of you for one hour. They have good stripteas shows and some real action in the club with the girls. The only thing which I don't like at places like this one. Everytime the older one girls will come to you to talk. I hate it to say a girl "I don't want you" and sometimes it is hard to make eye-contact with the right one.
Please, some recommendation for a place for young natural looking girls, environment is not important but it must be safe. Maybe just for fuck not for party.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2606001]I'm not too sure about leftists but I know for sure the right wingers are against prostitution. The US is sex prison because of the right wing evangelists.[/QUOTE]Correct. The right wingers hate prostitution yet always keep getting caught in gay massage parlors 🤦127997;8205;9794;65039;.
[QUOTE=Dodochen;2606009]I was yesterday in Casablanca. The only thing which I don't like at places like this one. Everytime the older one girls will come to you to talk. I hate it to say a girl "I don't want you" and sometimes it is hard to make eye-contact with the right one.[/QUOTE]Why eye contact? Why not just go up and talk to her or wave her over? When you go to McDonald's you are not waiting for eye contact with the cashier. You go right up and place your order. You can do the same thing in a hooker spot.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2605967]You think it's these girls dreams to be sucking the dick of a stranger 2 x her age? You think it's a guy's dream to be filling out spreadsheets every day?[/QUOTE]If it is paying the right amount of money then it is their dreams. Most money for the least work.It is not like the chicks studied ricket science and go laid off by NASA.
The purpose of American law is to force you to look at ugly women.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2605861]Interestingly, that's true. There is no united front there. Some feminists are pro-prostitution and see it as an economic choice, and others see it as exploitation. It would be fun to try and find a correlation between their views and their, let's call it, Eye Candy Coefficient (ECC). I'd venture a guess that most feminists with a negative ECC would be anti-prostitution.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2606014]Why eye contact? Why not just go up and talk to her or wave her over? When you go to McDonald's you are not waiting for eye contact with the cashier. You go right up and place your order. You can do the same thing in a hooker spot.[/QUOTE]In the final analysis, you're often right in what you say, but still you also often fail to acknowledge the [B]human[/B] element in all of this. Wanting somebody to fuck you isn't quite the same thing as wanting them to serve you a cheeseburger!
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2605989]Keep in mind that while the pro-sex work female Leftists view the SWorkers as "brave" and "empowered", we (the customer) are still viewed with scorn and derision. This is because women generally, and ideologically motivated activists specifically, are experts at living within extremely high levels of cognitive dissonance that would break most people.
Do you really think AOC and her ilk has anything but contempt for the average monger?[/QUOTE]If AOC had power, she would likely spend a lot of effort cracking down on mongers.
Communist countries tend to crack down on sex work. They view sex workers as a black eye to the regime. They also have a problem condoning such blatant entrepreneurism in their face. Obviously, it P4 P still goes on in these countries, but Beijing and Havana periodically rein it in and rein it in hard. Ten years ago, Dongguan was China's sin city. Havana was a great place for mongers.
The religious right and the radical left share some similar ideas. Of course, there is always a lot of hypocrisy coming from opportunist politicians especially on the right.
No I was referring to the other American hot female congressman wearing a tax the rich dress to a expensive social event.
If she wants to suck my dick while one of my nurses eats out her pussy I might retract my remarks.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2605836]Is this the puritan you were referring to? [URL]https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1339033546313371648?s=20[/URL].
Interesting how people here always complain about the liberal feminists making America such a pussy desert, while they're the ones who come closest to supporting our hobby.[/QUOTE]
So Geisha did a pernoite for 400.
Being a good negra sperm nurse she brought a white girl slave for 200.
The white girl, I will call her Samantha Strong for her enormous natural tits with nice big nipples full of milk, took it up the ass for a good 20 minutes or half hour while on a dog collar.
We paid her 200.
We smoked ganja (she also had a nice bong, which is better as the smoke is filtered through water).
Then geisha gave me a great deep tissue massage, and we slept well.
Then in the morning we had the usual hot box yoga for a few hours.
400 for geisha, a regular from among centro prives.
I get a lot of messages and talk about. Certain prives are not clean. Or the elevators in TDM 33. Look men, I am not the Rio visitors bureau, though I perhaps should be.
On the plus side, we have men like chayacheker, who left today, who carried a G3 for his country in eurolandia, where as a swiss naval intelligence officer we organized cells in case we needed to subdue the Germans under the iron hand of the romans in baden baden, a nice spa, where again Germans lounge around butt ass nekid.
The call in such places is to bring a negra to share, like a bottle of wine, and make friends, which sounds like a great plan for Monday, or Tuesday.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2605094]Having a great time. What always amazes me is a cute 19 year old, via google translate, "I want to fuck your ass and cum in your mouth" and I get a little giggle, smile and "sim". One winked at me. I nearly came there and then in my pants. Such a huge and radical change from USA. Last two weeks I have fucked over a dozen teen bottoms with passionate kissing as I erupt in them. And they encourage me to do it again. For about $usd 18 for a real hour.
One black girl had amazing pressure and tightness, gripping me as if she was milking me, and suppose she was.
America is such bullshit. Safer in Rio than many us cities.[/QUOTE]My last trip to Rio was my birthday and this chick offered up her twin sister in a threesome. Weird thing about it was I never suggested it, but it was them that insisted on giving me a birthday present I wouldn't forget. It was fuckin insane that I only paid about 160 bucks total for 6 hours of the freakiest fuckin I have ever had. Now turn the page, I was just in the the. Are. Days ago and I must add that I have had enough of that place. I pulled the trigger on one of those top notch bitches that the Sosua regulars are always hyping up and I regretted it. I won't embarrass myself by saying how much but I agreed to the price but she explained that I would have her for 2 hours. Well the ***** rushed everything like I was supposed to finish in 2 minutes. I had to instruct her several times to do more fuckin and less talkin but she was motioning like she had some place to go. So that's when it occurred to me that this ***** should have been on the clock for 2 hours, so after about an hour I finally finished and you can bet your right hand she didn't stay for her additional hour.
[QUOTE=Lakeside32;2606173]I was just in the DR days ago and I must add that I have had enough of that place. I pulled the trigger on one of those top notch bitches that the Sosua regulars are always hyping up and I regretted it. I won't embarrass myself by saying how much [/QUOTE]LOL. But when I write those kinds of truths in that thread the guys that swear by the place but have never been anywhere else for comparison get bent out of shape. Bolonga tastes like steak to you if you have always eaten bologna and have never tasted a ribeye. Leche papi leche. Propina. That place went to shit about 12 years ago, but people that came after that knew no difference. To them the bullshit is just normal.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2605989]Keep in mind that while the pro-sex work female Leftists view the SWorkers as "brave" and "empowered", we (the customer) are still viewed with scorn and derision. This is because women generally, and ideologically motivated activists specifically, are experts at living within extremely high levels of cognitive dissonance that would break most people.
Do you really think AOC and her ilk has anything but contempt for the average monger?[/QUOTE]Before I talk about AOC and the lefts attitude towards sw clients, let's just all agree that it's conservatives and Republicans in the US who are responsible today (not talking historically) of restricting sex work. They're the ones who passed Sesta / fosta and pushed sex workers and clients off established online platforms and onto more risky venues. And, as pointed out, they often are also hypocritically hiring sex workers as well.
Ok, now that we've established who's really to blame for the current legal state of sex work in the US, let's get to the lefts view of clients. I agree that they unfairly view clients with scorn and derision (although I think this too is changing a bit, slowly). And to be fair, a lot of johns make for very easy targets. How many countless men do you hear of sexually assaulting, beating, even killing some poor woman. Let's not pretend that there are a lot of men who, let's just say, "push boundaries. " I believe a lot of this would be reduced if sex work were normalized and legalized (something liberals and Leftists are much more for than conservatives / republicans). If an escort felt safe going to the cops when a client beats her, I'd bet that there would be less sw beatings.
But, you might say, "*I've* never beat any working girl! How is it fair to judge me for that?" And in a sense I agree, John's are painted with too broad a brush sometimes. But let's also be honest, that there is almost always a fundamental imbalance of power between a SW and a client. Even in the least coercive / most consensual interaction between a SW / client, one of those parties is much more likely to be struggling to pay bills, keep food on the table for their kids, worry about living in a bad neighborhood, etc. Not to say that johns are always well off, but it's more likely that they're better off than the worker. This is especially true for sex tourist like most on this forum / thread. The imbalance between the SW / client is huge in these cases.
A good analogy is if a servant is caught stealing from their billionaire employer. It's honestly hard to muster up the empathy to feel sorry for the billionaire since there's such a big delta in power. None of us are billionaires I assume, but we are usually orders of magnitude more wealthy than the chicas.
Now, I still think it's unfair to discount the lived reality of John's. A lot of that has to do with puritanical views about monogamy and marriage, which are fundamentally conservative concepts. And just as how there are systematic sociological and economic issues that lead to women choosing sex work, there are tons of systematic issues leading to men choosing to engage in sex work.
But if you're wondering why people judge you for flying off to Brazil or Thailand to fuck poor 20 year olds for a relatively tiny amount of USD, then I refer you again to the billionaire and his servant. People are reacting the inherent ickiness of a world in which people with such privilege can exist side by side with such lack of privilege. As for how I can justify my actions. I know I am basically powerless to change anything. I go to the polls every four years and push the right buttons, but I know that will not change anything. If in the future we live in a world with less sex work because women (and men) feel that they are not desperate enough to engage in it, then I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing, even though us poor johns won't be able to have sex with young beauties at a snap of a finger. Until then I will rest easy knowing that I am but a fly on the wall.
[QUOTE=Lakeside32;2606173]My last trip to Rio was my birthday and this chick offered up her twin sister in a threesome. Weird thing about it was I never suggested it, but it was them that insisted on giving me a birthday present I wouldn't forget. It was fuckin insane that I only paid about 160 bucks total for 6 hours of the freakiest fuckin I have ever had. Now turn the page, I was just in the the. Are. Days ago and I must add that I have had enough of that place. I pulled the trigger on one of those top notch bitches that the Sosua regulars are always hyping up and I regretted it. I won't embarrass myself by saying how much but I agreed to the price but she explained that I would have her for 2 hours. Well the ***** rushed everything like I was supposed to finish in 2 minutes. I had to instruct her several times to do more fuckin and less talkin but she was motioning like she had some place to go. So that's when it occurred to me that this ***** should have been on the clock for 2 hours, so after about an hour I finally finished and you can bet your right hand she didn't stay for her additional hour.[/QUOTE]I think it is hit or miss in terms of the service. I always heard that Brazilian girls are known for GFE or even PSE service, always ready to fuck, rain or shine, and fuck with a smile. However when I was in Rio last June, my experience was mixed. I sessioned with barravip girls, Mabs girls, Tinder and SA girls, tried multiple termas, and 90% of these sessions were meh. Nothing to write home about. No anal, no bareback sex, no threesomes, etc. Just plain vanilla covered sex. I even got CBJ a couple of times. A couple of clock watchers, a couple of smelly pussies mixed in. I still love Rio and will come back, it is such a beautiful place to visit. And girls there come in all shapes and sizes, love the diversity! But was really disappointed with the service. YMMV, perhaps.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2606232]I think it is hit or miss in terms of the service. I always heard that Brazilian girls are known for GFE or even PSE service, always ready to fuck, rain or shine, and fuck with a smile. However when I was in Rio last June, my experience was mixed. I sessioned with barravip girls, Mabs girls, Tinder and SA girls, tried multiple termas, and 90% of these sessions were meh. Nothing to write home about. No anal, no bareback sex, no threesomes, etc. Just plain vanilla covered sex. I even got CBJ a couple of times. A couple of clock watchers, a couple of smelly pussies mixed in. I still love Rio and will come back, it is such a beautiful place to visit. And girls there come in all shapes and sizes, love the diversity! But was really disappointed with the service. YMMV, perhaps.[/QUOTE]I never do bareback FS even when offered so I wouldn't know about that. But I have encountered some mediocre service, which I turned around by telling them what I want. I just turn them around, flip them, put them in a position I want them to be, and I can swear most like it, and even when they don't, they comply. They aren't all porn queens. Some girls can simply be shy or inexperienced, and they need directions. Others may be lazy or tired, but they won't say no to you, as long as you aren't rude or god forbid violent.
Honestly, I'll take my Rio tourist fuck (which are still quite rare) and take it again and again and again vs a Sosua tourist fuck as has been mentioned a few comments before. Because never in all my travels to Brazil has I ever heard leche papi. While in Sosua, there hasn't been a single trip where I wouldn't hear that damn fucking thing or one of its variation. In all honesty, I remember 3 relatively bad Rio sessions over 2 decades.
It will be my first time in Brazil so I will be staying in Copa for central location for sightseeing and good restaurants. Does anyone have recommendations for girl-friendly hotels? Price isn't an issue. I was thinking about staying at the Fairmont and even the Copacabana Palace for a night to see how they are.
I am currently in Sao Paulo and thinking of going to Rio for a couple days. Had anyone gone recently with covid protocols in place. I won't go if it is too much hassle to get there.
My buddy wants to go to Rio in Nov but he found out he needs a yellow fever shot in order to go back to the DR. Does anyone know where in Rio he can go to get this shot?
Once you flash a swiss diplomatic passport and swiss guard ID as well as a union bank of Switzerland business card, and of course a clean STD test, and cash, you will always get top tier service. Also, the answers are:
1. how long are you staying? Forever.
2. where are you from? Salvador.
Harder to do if you're a blond euro dude from Miami. So you have to say, "eu sou professor English no um colegio them Salvador."
She will say, "ah ta" and laugh, and she will look at the diplomatic passport, cash, and clean tests and invite you to sodomize her without a condom.
The truth is guarded by a body guard of lies.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2606232]I think it is hit or miss in terms of the service. I always heard that Brazilian girls are known for GFE or even PSE service, always ready to fuck, rain or shine, and fuck with a smile. However when I was in Rio last June, my experience was mixed. I sessioned with barravip girls, Mabs girls, Tinder and SA girls, tried multiple termas, and 90% of these sessions were meh. Nothing to write home about. No anal, no bareback sex, no threesomes, etc. Just plain vanilla covered sex. I even got CBJ a couple of times. A couple of clock watchers, a couple of smelly pussies mixed in. I still love Rio and will come back, it is such a beautiful place to visit. And girls there come in all shapes and sizes, love the diversity! But was really disappointed with the service. YMMV, perhaps.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bravo;2606375]My buddy wants to go to Rio in Nov but he found out he needs a yellow fever shot in order to go back to the DR. Does anyone know where in Rio he can go to get this shot?[/QUOTE]I checked with my girl that works at the Health Department. He can get the shot at one of the health centers.
CMS JOÃO BARROS BARRETO Centro Municipal de Saúde João Barros Barreto, ao lado the Estação Siqueira Campos. Rua Tenreiro Aranha s / and, Copacabana Atendimento: Seg a sex 7 às 18 h e Sábado 7 às 12 h.
CF CANTAGALO PAVÃO. PAVÃOZINHO Rua Saint Roman 172 - Copacabana Atendimento: Seg a sex 8 às 17 h.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2606375]My buddy wants to go to Rio in Nov but he found out he needs a yellow fever shot in order to go back to the DR. Does anyone know where in Rio he can go to get this shot?[/QUOTE]Lamina Aproador. No appointment needed. I paid something around 170 are.
[QUOTE=SlipperyBanana;2606335]It will be my first time in Brazil so I will be staying in Copa for central location for sightseeing and good restaurants. Does anyone have recommendations for girl-friendly hotels? Price isn't an issue. I was thinking about staying at the Fairmont and even the Copacabana Palace for a night to see how they are.[/QUOTE]Check the post #24489
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2606378]Once you flash a swiss diplomatic passport and swiss guard ID as well as a union bank of Switzerland business card, and of course a clean STD test, and cash, you will always get top tier service. Also, the answers are:
1. how long are you staying? Forever.
2. where are you from? Salvador.
Harder to do if you're a blond euro dude from Miami. So you have to say, "eu sou professor English no um colegio them Salvador."
She will say, "ah ta" and laugh, and she will look at the diplomatic passport, cash, and clean tests and invite you to sodomize her without a condom.
The truth is guarded by a body guard of lies.[/QUOTE]Being a blond euro dude from Miami with cash is not enough to get a good service? They say I have beautiful blue eyes LOL.
STD test would be helpful, agreed.
Question 1, I never tell them if and when I'm leaving.
Question 2, I tell them I'm from Russia.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2606372]I am currently in Sao Paulo and thinking of going to Rio for a couple days. Had anyone gone recently with covid protocols in place. I won't go if it is too much hassle to get there.[/QUOTE]What covid protocols? You buy a ticket, go to the airport, and sit in the plane just like always. There is nothing special to do except wear a mask.
I'm here for the week. Anyone else here?
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2606372]I am currently in Sao Paulo and thinking of going to Rio for a couple days. Had anyone gone recently with covid protocols in place. I won't go if it is too much hassle to get there.[/QUOTE]Are you vaccinated? You have to show proof of vaccination for some of the touristy things like seeing Christ the Redeemer, Sugarloaf Mtn, etc.
[QUOTE=SlipperyBanana;2606335]It will be my first time in Brazil so I will be staying in Copa for central location for sightseeing and good restaurants. Does anyone have recommendations for girl-friendly hotels? Price isn't an issue. I was thinking about staying at the Fairmont and even the Copacabana Palace for a night to see how they are.[/QUOTE]But JW Marriott is, or at least was before the pandemic. Email and ask them. The regular rooms are pretty small, though, so if price isn't an issue, grab one of their oceanfront suites and be a hero to your girlfriends.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2606481]But JW Marriott is, or at least was before the pandemic. Email and ask them. The regular rooms are pretty small, though, so if price isn't an issue, grab one of their oceanfront suites and be a hero to your girlfriends.[/QUOTE]It definitely is. But only two people per room are allowed and up to 3 in a suite. If you decide on a threesome, they might charge you for the third person.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2606511]It definitely is. But only two people per room are allowed and up to 3 in a suite. If you decide on a threesome, they might charge you for the third person.[/QUOTE]I do not think you can pay a fee for the extra guest, the 2nd woman will be asked to wait in the lobby or she can leave. (Unless the policy has changed since I last stayed there.)
[QUOTE=SlipperyBanana;2606335]It will be my first time in Brazil so I will be staying in Copa for central location for sightseeing and good restaurants. Does anyone have recommendations for girl-friendly hotels? Price isn't an issue. I was thinking about staying at the Fairmont and even the Copacabana Palace for a night to see how they are.[/QUOTE]The Fairmont is pretty good. Not a true Fairmont, however, since it was originally an Accor Hotel, but after Accor bought out Fairmont corporate re-christened the hotel a Fairmont. Not a big deal, but if you ever stayed at a real Fairmont you would quickly notice the difference. Anyway, it is pretty good and it was girl friendly when I stayed there in April. That's why I am going to stay there again in November.
But if money is no object stay at the Fasano. It is located across from Ipanema which is a better beach IMHO, and not far form Copa, but the main reason for my recommendation is that this small boutique hotel is a true 5 star with very well appointed deluxe rooms facing the beach, a great restaurant, pool, and it was girl friendly when I stayed there. It's only negative is beaucoup bucks.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2606524]I do not think you can pay a fee for the extra guest, the 2nd woman will be asked to wait in the lobby or she can leave. (Unless the policy has changed since I last stayed there.).[/QUOTE]I don't know of any Marriott Hotel worldwide that is not girl friendly. I trade off and stay at 2 different Marriott Executive Apartment Hotels in BKK, the Park Exec Marriott on Soi 24 and the Thonglor Marriot Exec on Soi 57. I have brought back multiple girls many times, 3 girls was my max, a menage a quatro, and no one at the hotel batted an eye.
So why are Rio Hotels so conservative?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2606382]I checked with my girl that works at the Health Department. He can get the shot at one of the health centers.
CMS JOO BARROS BARRETO Centro Municipal de Sade Joo Barros Barreto, ao lado the Estao Siqueira Campos. Rua Tenreiro Aranha s / and, Copacabana Atendimento: Seg a sex 7 s 18 h e Sbado 7 s 12 h.
CF CANTAGALO PAVO. PAVOZINHO Rua Saint Roman 172 - Copacabana Atendimento: Seg a sex 8 s 17 h.[/QUOTE][URL]https://copacabana.com/postos-de-saude[/URL]
What is the best choice to get a PCR-test on a way back in Copacabana?
[QUOTE=Trojan22;2606447]Are you vaccinated? You have to show proof of vaccination for some of the touristy things like seeing Christ the Redeemer, Sugarloaf Mtn, etc.[/QUOTE]I am fully vaccinated but I'm only looking to hit tourist destinations like 4 x4 and solarium.
Ok so vm trip. Wednesday at 13 h. Meet at cinelandia Starbucks at 13 h.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2606532]I don't know of any Marriott Hotel worldwide that is not girl friendly. I trade off and stay at 2 different Marriott Executive Apartment Hotels in BKK, the Park Exec Marriott on Soi 24 and the Thonglor Marriot Exec on Soi 57. I have brought back multiple girls many times, 3 girls was my max, a menage a quatro, and no one at the hotel batted an eye.
So why are Rio Hotels so conservative?[/QUOTE]That's Bangkok. I've never stayed at a non-guest friendly hotel in Bangkok. Do they even exist?
I suspect Rio hotels (and Colombia's too for that matter) just see it as an opportunity to charge extra. I mean they're more than willing to brush aside their righteousness for the right price, LOL.
PM me to be added to a local group of boots on the ground.
We few, we happy few.
[QUOTE=GregWilliams;2606432]I'm here for the week. Anyone else here?[/QUOTE]
So this regular came over Sunday, after texting me for 2 days straight (she's in need of money, she actually stole a can of tuna).
We did fuck, as we usually do, BBFSCIP, to (do a search for Monique white boy stomp on google and all the porn tubes), and to Ana foxxx, etc.
She doesn't like black submissive woman porn, go figure, so I put on some white girl getting ganbanged in jail ([URL]kink.com[/URL], the one paid service I keep).
Well, at least 2 pops Sunday night, another pop Monday morning, then we restocked on ganja, and went to the nude beach. It was actually a nice beach day, overcast, but not raining, and brisk if you actually went for a swim. We then went to guanabara where I bought bbq fixings, etc, which she barely touched as she had a headache. Not wanting to pay for another night with a chick who has a headache, I fucked her and then sent her on her way. She threw a little fit, but she has been on the way out for months if not a year. She is a player for swing, but I'm sure others are too, and she does BBFSCIP, but so do others, younger, tighter, and morenas, who are my preference, as well as top tier freelancers and even a few porn stars.
Vagabundo paid her 500.400 pernoite rate. Then 100 for bending her over and busting a quick nut while we watched kira noir / Ana foxxx porn.
Then vagabundo headed out to na brasa Colombia with phallus maximus for a drink and introduction. It being Monday, perola negra (ave de pepe 400) was probably closed.
Look, men, vagabundo is not in the business of leading tours. He may well do so if he has some reason. He is not a 1) IT consultant, 2) first aid consultant, 3) pimp (he doesn't want to give out contact, or to run a bordello; he might offer such things from time to time if there is actually a reason to do so, but he's not in this for anything). That said, if he is feeling up to it he will try to do VM and centro prives on Wednesday, 13 h, meet at cinelandia starbucks.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2606575]I am fully vaccinated but I'm only looking to hit tourist destinations like 4 x4 and solarium.[/QUOTE]I don't want to get into depth on the stupidity of the vaccination passport system, but the question is. Do you have the right papers for the right jurisdiction at the right time? To answer your question, I do not have papers and currently it's not a big deal. I can't go to the cinema now, but pretty much everything else is fine. You might have issues with the Christ statue and Sugar Loaf mountain but I can't confirm. I've been to both 4 x 4 and Solarium this week and these places don't require papers so you can rest easy.
This covid thing is killing me. I have a few Brazilian clients and they're all very relaxed, which led me to find out that Brazil is actually open to tourism. God bless this country.
So I don't speak a lick of Portuguese, is Rio de Janeiro a good choice for me to go for a week?
Which area do would you recommend me stay?
What attractions and food is good?
What are the essentials?
No way I'm going to pickup chicks not knowing the language, which escort sites do you recommend?
Please bless me with your wisdom.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2606532]I don't know of any Marriott Hotel worldwide that is not girl friendly. I trade off and stay at 2 different Marriott Executive Apartment Hotels in BKK, the Park Exec Marriott on Soi 24 and the Thonglor Marriot Exec on Soi 57. I have brought back multiple girls many times, 3 girls was my max, a menage a quatro, and no one at the hotel batted an eye.
So why are Rio Hotels so conservative?[/QUOTE]As a Titanium Plat for a long time. I can say the Marriott properties in D1 Saigon for sure won't allow girls to come in with you.
I was from last Thursday to Saturday in Rio, was in Mabs 5 minutes Friday night (11 h30 pm), very empty about 15 girls and outside under the Mabs tent many spaces free (incredible for a Friday night), maybe 2 or 3 girls was nice to pay attention of them, no more.
Then I went to dolce vita 5 people inside 3 girls and 2 men! I moved quickly.
Happy for me that I had my usual girl so no problem to have nice moment.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2606525]The Fairmont is pretty good. Not a true Fairmont, however, since it was originally an Accor Hotel, but after Accor bought out Fairmont corporate re-christened the hotel a Fairmont. Not a big deal, but if you ever stayed at a real Fairmont you would quickly notice the difference. Anyway, it is pretty good and it was girl friendly when I stayed there in April. That's why I am going to stay there again in November.
[/QUOTE]It's funny it was originally an Accor hotel. This hotel was probably built about the late 70's. It was called the Rio Palace hotel and was a high end 5 star hotel, celebrities stayed there as well as the Copacabana palace hotel. I've stayed there several times in the 80's. Then I guess it went downhill like many Rio hotels did. It changed hands a few times, I don't remember all the names but it also was a Sofitel hotel not too long ago. The hotel basically has the same bones as it did in the 70's.
[QUOTE=TravelBug2020;2606928]As a Titanium Plat for a long time. I can say the Marriott properties in D1 Saigon for sure won't allow girls to come in with you.[/QUOTE]That is not a Marriott only thing. I think all high end hotels in the city are like that. They want you to book another room for the girl.
[QUOTE=TravelBug2020;2606928]As a Titanium Plat for a long time. I can say the Marriott properties in D1 Saigon for sure won't allow girls to come in with you.[/QUOTE]That's interesting, although I am not too surprised. One of the reasons I have never gone to Saigon were all the various hurdles and work arounds required to punt successfully there. It is too complicated for me. But I love Viet girls and met some great ones in Phnom Penh, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Macau.
Sadly Phnom Penh and Hong Kong no longer have Viets. They were the stars in several Wanchai bars I used to go to pre 2014. In Macau Saunas, however, Vietnamese girls are usually relegated to entry level positions like thigh massage (HJ's) and were always on the lowest rung in the showtime lineups while Chinese, Korean, and a few so called Japanese girls were considered the hottest girls and were the most expensive. I wonder if the Macau Saunas will ever make come back. I used to really dig them! My last visit was pre Covid, June 2019.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2606532]
So why are Rio Hotels so conservative?[/QUOTE]Rio hotels have been this way for a long long time. They have their reasons like fights breaking out at 4 in the morning and these girls are loud and vicious, doesn't look good to the respectable guests, not a good look. Guys getting robbed and drugged again not a good look when the police show up. Not a good look when one of these favella rats shows up in the lobby. Some of the nicer hotels don't want to deal with this, it's not worth it to them. I've done the hotel thing and the apartment thing, lately I'm preferring apartments so I can bring in as many girls as I want. What does a hotel offer you really anyway, a pool? You can go swim in their pool anyway without staying there.
[QUOTE=RioBob;2607035] I've done the hotel thing and the apartment thing, lately I'm preferring apartments so I can bring in as many girls as I want. What does a hotel offer you really anyway, a pool? You can go swim in their pool anyway without staying there.[/QUOTE]You have a valid point here. Apartment rentals offer certain real advantages over hotels. The trick is finding the right apartment in good condition with a reasonable landlord. I have stayed in a few condo rental apartments in Pattaya and it was great. But I am still feeling my way around RJ, so I don't think am ready yet to intelligently go for a rental.
[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2606966]I was from last Thursday to Saturday in Rio, was in Mabs 5 minutes Friday night (11 h30 pm), very empty about 15 girls and outside under the Mabs tent many spaces free (incredible for a Friday night), maybe 2 or 3 girls was nice to pay attention of them, no more.
Then I went to dolce vita 5 people inside 3 girls and 2 men! I moved quickly.
Happy for me that I had my usual girl so no problem to have nice moment.[/QUOTE]Mabs is hit and miss, dolce vita picks up much later. I met this girl at Mabs but she goes to dolce vita too. If you like the way she looks don't pass her up if you see her. 110% GFE, real sweet, very experienced and takes care of you real well at reasonable value. She also always has something good to smoke.
[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video53159137/cavala_luna_oliveira_bitching_with_males_on_the_streets_and_beaches_of_rio_de_janeiro[/URL]
This is a video of a pro porn star having sex at abrico nude beach. The studio is [URL]bradmontana.com[/URL] which is a professional, and some of the male actors are the regular talent.
You can see the camera shots are very tight to just focus on the girl and the two guys. It is not for everyone. Girls do like it. The video shows good shots of the drive to abrico too.
[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video53676121/mirella_mansur_at_an_orgy_on_the_beach_in_rio_de_janeiro[/URL]
The above video is another semi pro video of a gangbang at abrico.
In my last trip there with Monique, again, I did see fully nude women, some of them waitresses. Going there with a girl is a difficult step, as most girls may not like it, though Monique. And Geisha -- say they do. I haven't gone with Geisha yet.
That said, there is a clothed part of praia abrico, and the excellent praia grumari is nearby too. This area I highly recommend for picking up local girls. There appear to be few tourists. Many of the people on the nude part of praia abrico do wear cloths. It is pretty weird, but it is kind of primal, kind of Adam and Eve.
[URL]https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/brazil/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]
Water temperatures are going up. Wetsuit, if it was once required, is no longer.
Sadly my Rio Adventure has come to an end but here are my results:
Termas Visited:
Solarium. Visited Twice. Easily my favorite in terms of beautiful brancas. Sessioned both times with the same girl. Slightly pricier than the centro termas but worth it for the cool atmosphere and talent. Entry is 120, but they'll include one free beer if you pay it in cash in advance. If I remember correctly, it's 475 for a 40-min session. Only downside is that the location is a little out of the way but really it's not a long Uber ride from Copa.
4 x4 - Visited 5 Times. I had mixed results. Went home without sessioning twice (once was due to overdoing it with the alcohol which would've been a waste of an experience). Entry is 50 and I believe the basic room is 410 for an hour. All termas have great customer service but 4 x 4 should get honorable mention due to the English-speaking receptionist who is extremely friendly and goes above and beyond to make you feel welcomed. After only visiting a couple of times she remembered who I was and even gave me a free upgrade to a suite on one of my sessions. 4 x4 is legendary and for good reason. I personally only found the women there to be OK. There were a lot of them, but I would only find between 2 and 4 per night that suited my standards. It was always a great party though. I would really recommend going with some other mongers and getting the VIP table. I don't know how much it costs but it seemed like those guys were always having a better time than everyone else.
Whiskeria 65 - Visited 6 Times. This was my underrated gem. It doesn't seem to be that well-liked but it felt like a second-home to me. It's partly because of the 70 entry that was fully consumable. I could just go in, have 3 beers and enjoy the atmosphere and it felt like I hadn't paid a cover all at. I sessioned 3 times here. Twice I got lucky and discovered a blond branca with perfect proportions who gave a very persuasive performance. She was one of the highlights of my trip. If she hadn't been there, I might not have been so impressed with the talent. They can really be quiet on Mondays and Fridays, but I had one of my best sessions on my Monday there. The other session there was simply OK. The price was quite nice. I think it's 335 for a room for an hour, and they have the best rooms of the 3 termas I visited as they are newly renovated.
Prives:
Studio Zen (formerly Zen Therapy) - Located at RB185, it's extremely easy and convenient to get to and I felt it was amazing value. Only 100 for a 30-min session and the girls were OK in terms of looks but one of them gave me one of the best performances during my time in Rio.
Final thoughts:
It was my first time trying this hobby in Rio and my mind was blown. The girls give you an experience I haven't really seen anywhere else. They aren't always the best looking women in the world (too many have crazy amounts of work done and many are overweight) but there are some gems in there. I was originally thinking of going to Thailand this winter, but due to their unpredictable and ridiculous handling of the pandemic, and my amazing time in Rio, I've decided I'll be back for January. March and enjoy Carnival. It really is the most beautiful city in the world. My only regret is doing it solo. Next time I'll reach out and meet up with other mongers. It seems like that would be a lot of fun.
Anyway, I'm in Sao Paulo now, I've only got a week but will try to explore it some more and make some comparisons but I feel my bias might lean more towards Rio in the end. We'll see.
We went to VM today at 13 h. It was fine. I found a 18 year old, BBFSCIP, and got number. 90 reais.
Then we had lunch at Cais do Oriente in Praca XV. We went then to [URL]Darkroom.com.br[/URL], where my wingman found a girl.
We few, we happy few.
[QUOTE=Dodochen;2606009]I was yesterday in Casablanca. Many girls, like 25 Girls. Normaly go out with the girl is 150 BRL and the girl want 400-500 BRL of you for one hour. They have good stripteas shows and some real action in the club with the girls. The only thing which I don't like at places like this one. Everytime the older one girls will come to you to talk. I hate it to say a girl "I don't want you" and sometimes it is hard to make eye-contact with the right one.
Please, some recommendation for a place for young natural looking girls, environment is not important but it must be safe. Maybe just for fuck not for party.[/QUOTE]
Vagabundo sent out the following heads up (some in Swiss Naval infantry call it a warning order, but that is so authoritarian, haha) on Monday.
Ok so vm trip. Wednesday at 13 h. Meet at cinelandia Starbucks at 13 h.
Vagabundo sent out the following SMEAC (Situation, Mission, Execution, admin, Communications) plan on Wednesday at 10 h17 local.
Ok, gents. 13 h is still the planned link up for VM. Situation: It is raining, and it is the afternoon. Mission: I am just going to walk you though VM. My intent is to make you self sufficient. We will walk to Hotel Canario, which I recommend. Execution: I will probably ask one of you fine gents to get a uber. You should bring at least 400 reais, which would cover a hotel and a girl. I suggest not bringing too much more. We will be in touch by whatsapp at all times, and if someone decides to take a girl for a half hour, I suggest waiting until he is done. We can set at link up at a certain casa, like Casa 52. Admin: covered above. As for what to wear, I suggest high end hiking sandals such as those I wrote about (get them at decathlon), long pants as it is raining on and off, a tank top preferably red, a rash guard, and a rain jacket of some sort. Bring your own ED meds, best price for them if you are in Barra is Barra Garden shopping; and best place to get cash is always the bradesco. I suggest leaving your credit card in your hotel safe. Communication: whatspp via this group.
On Wednesday, Vagabundo got on the bus from Transamerica to Centro at 11 h20.
It was overcast, and there were some stand up paddle surfers at Fortress Copacabana.
Vagabundo was at the Cinelandia Starbucks by 12 h39, and right on time Dodochen linked up.
We headed to VM in a uber, targeting Mosaico. This turned out to be a good plan as it was early, some girls were out, and most were not. There was no safety issue. Some good girls were out, and Vagabundo as he normally does got numbers. We first went to hotel canario so we could see where to go with a girl. This is a good location. The casas tia's will try to stop this. They want their 10 or 15 reais for their room. You, as a client want to get the girl to a neutral hotel, or to your own apartment / hotel room.
You must learn portoguese. It's been said so many times, but it bears repeating. Vagabundo did some translating. He is not normally in the biz of doing this, but dodochen is a good dude, and it was fun.
We did the loop several times. We set casa 52 as a link up point. We ordered guarvitas, and they overcharged us (4 reais each, but so what, and dodochen was paying). Margins are margins.
Vagabundo found happiness in a 18 yo negra which was 90 r. BBFSCIP.
We ubered back to metro uruguiana. We had lunch at Cais do Oriente, a nice restaurant, 59 r for a prixe fixe lunch menu, which is a popular local spot. The place is nice with entrances on both sides of a whole city block, including out onto the harbor where there is the tribunal maritime, and the ferry to the other side of the pond (g bay).
We then went to one of the centro prives, and Dodochen picked a girl. She upsold him 50 BRL for anal, but this is to be expected.
Vagabundo went home on the 309 bus, having just missed the 17 h20 luxury tourist bus back to Transamerica. It was a good day.
Anyone know the maximum duration for tourism in Brazil?
I know its 90 days and you can ask for extension up to 180 days within a year but is the following scenario legal and accepted or ok to do?
Visit Brazil for 90 days. Leave Brazil for a month and return to Brazil for another 90 days. Total 180 days.
Some further lessons learned.
1. Obviously, going to a possible risk area like VM during the day is a good move if you are a first time visitor. You must see Mosaico during the day, see the ways in and out by foot, and by taxi.
2. There are girls 24/7/365. There are good ones, if your taste is towards [URL]wefuckblackgirls.com[/URL], as Vagabundo's is. (one of his men in the Swiss Naval Infantry gave him the callsign "MUDSHARK" haha).
3. If you get a number, expect it is a communal cell phone. This sucks, as if you try to message the specific girl you want, you more than likely will get a signals intel cell of working girls sitting around with their Tia and maybe a security guy thinking about how best to rob you of as much as possible.
As I write this, I am texting my VM girl from Wednesday to try to get her over here to barra for pernoite. I also have 2 other girls who come to barra on their own (a big selling point for this customer). I will probably break down and send and uber (I actually use indriver app). I may even go get her. Towards that point, the logistics of the bus are key, and can be seen on the association mediterraneo website.
[URL]https://www.associacaomediterraneo.com/horario-onibus-van-balsa/onibus/[/URL]
As it stands, I expect to need to send an uber, or to get her at VM.
4. There is an unlimited supply of BBFS / CIP girls at VM / 116/ centro prives; even at 4 x4, 65, solarium (bring your tests like Anaggie, and of course your cash).
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2607514]Vagabundo sent out the following heads up (some in Swiss Naval infantry call it a warning order, but that is so authoritarian, haha) on Monday.
Ok so vm trip. Wednesday at 13 h. Meet at cinelandia Starbucks at 13 h.
Vagabundo sent out the following SMEAC (Situation, Mission, Execution, admin, Communications) plan on Wednesday at 10 h17 local.
Ok, gents. 13 h is still the planned link up for VM. Situation: It is raining, and it is the afternoon. Mission: I am just going to walk you though VM. My intent is to make you self sufficient. We will walk to Hotel Canario, which I recommend. Execution: I will probably ask one of you fine gents to get a uber. You should bring at least 400 reais, which would cover a hotel and a girl. I suggest not bringing too much more. We will be in touch by whatsapp at all times, and if someone decides to take a girl for a half hour, I suggest waiting until he is done. We can set at link up at a certain casa, like Casa 52..[/QUOTE]
So, as expected, the other girls in the casa are answering the phone number that she gave me.
Here is a good report of distinction about being a native Rio libertine.
[URL]http://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=6043[/URL]
I am using the time to deep clean my apartment. Being as organized as possible is helpful for pernoites.
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2607415]Anyway, I'm in Sao Paulo now, I've only got a week but will try to explore it some more and make some comparisons but I feel my bias might lean more towards Rio in the end. We'll see.[/QUOTE]LOL see you in SP next week if you are still there and want to meet.
[QUOTE=Mimic86;2607698]Anyone know the maximum duration for tourism in Brazil?
I know its 90 days and you can ask for extension up to 180 days within a year but is the following scenario legal and accepted or ok to do?
Visit Brazil for 90 days. Leave Brazil for a month and return to Brazil for another 90 days. Total 180 days.[/QUOTE]You can stay for 90 days, leave brasil for 1 day and then return and stay another 90 days. I know guys who go to Foz do Iguaçu, stay the night in Argentina the head back to brasil the next day.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2607700]if your taste is towards [URL]wefuckblackgirls.com[/URL], as Vagabundo's is. (one of his men in the Swiss Naval Infantry gave him the callsign "MUDSHARK" haha).[/QUOTE]A mud shark is a ghetto or trailer trash white chick that only dates black guys. For the opposite sexes it is called a derrick (the machines that drill oil).
Thank you for the clarification.
That said, the Swiss Naval Infantry E2, a combat veteran of the invasion of Italy, gave Vagagbundo the callsign. I will pass it along.
Mudshark is one of the greatest callsigns I have ever been given by my Naval Infantry grunts.
We are not as smart as squids.
But that said, holy shit, the talent for derricks or for this Vagabundo at VM at 01 h was off the hook. Lots of new 18 year old negra pussy that will take it raw, including the one I did. Haha.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2607823]A mud shark is a ghetto or trailer trash white chick that only dates black guys. For the opposite sexes it is called a derrick (the machines that drill oil).[/QUOTE]
So, 4 of us ISG folks, including Dodochen, bearsi, and Trojan hit centro.
Vagabundo had the team go to 116 first. There was a negra there who has been teasing Vagabundo, callsign Mudshark.
Or callsign Derrick.
None of the other guys wanted the meat on offer at 116.
Vagabundo walked the team over to Cancun.
Vagabundo was going to go to 4 x4, but instead he went to 116 and went upstairs with the negra. She promised BBFS. She gave about a minute of BBFS, after a BBBJ, which was great. Since Vagabundo knew she was a liar, he only got a 20 minute session for $60 reais, plus some drinks. The risk was $12 USD. This is what we call the game of love.
To fuck the real ana foxxx in the rich world, it might cost you $1000 USD.
So, then Vagabundo messaged dodochen, who was at 4 x 4.
The two man sniper / spotter team of V and the ubered over to Mosaico at 23 h.
OMFG!
The talent there is off the hook. I am typing in all caps because it is is worth it.
After midnight talent got better.
Vagabundo was a little sick, but motivated by the talent, and got numbers.
V even translated and got Dodochen on target with a big titted loira (blonde), who charged $350 reais for 40 minutes, apparently complete.
Our hero, V, got a bunch of numbers.
Afterwards, the pair patrolled over into the heart of darkness. The talent, if you like [URL]wefuckblackgirls.com[/URL], is as mentioned off the hook.
You will have to deal with the terrible facilities.
Oh, and one of Vagabundo's regulars or former regulars has it out for him. But he ducked her.
We then headed back to our cribs.
Men.
Go.
To.
Mosaico.
After midnight. There is a song by Eric Clapton.
Oh, on the way out, the military police had a checkpoint. They tried to force Vagabundo to trade his nice flashlight with a taser for his cheaper light, with one cop standing over watch with a FNFAL in 7.62 x51 NATO.
Since Vagabundo has seen all that before, he stood his ground and got his taser flashlight back.
It helps to be a Swiss Naval Infantry Veteran.
OOH RAH.
Vagabundo is a derrick, and that is the oil that he drills (a French African negra up at Las Vegas, a hooker, and she is a pole dancer, and the best negras are French, because the French love them drilling some black gold).
That other picture is of a mud shark. She is from the nordeste, and she prefers black pole. Look at those hips. She comes to Rio to jack up white guys for money but she is a straight up mud shark.
She is also going to be sitting on Vagabundo's face tomorrow on the beach where he is going to be her personal photographer. Haha. We are going to praia grumari. Vagabundo is going to take her to the nude beach, though, and then to a pousada at guaratiba. And drill her mud shark loving holes with his derrick. Haha.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2607823]A mud shark is a ghetto or trailer trash white chick that only dates black guys. For the opposite sexes it is called a derrick (the machines that drill oil).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bravo;2607810]You can stay for 90 days, leave brasil for 1 day and then return and stay another 90 days. I know guys who go to Foz do Iguayou, stay the night in Argentina the head back to brasil the next day.[/QUOTE]Maybe one has to stay overnight, because I checked my old passport and I didn't get 90 days when I crossed the border to Ciudad del Este and came back the same day.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2607439]We went to VM today at 13 h. It was fine. I found a 18 year old, BBFSCIP, and got number. 90 reais.
Then we had lunch at [B]Cais do Oriente in Praca XV[/b]. We went then to [URL]Darkroom.com.br[/URL], where my wingman found a girl.
We few, we happy few.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Restaurant listing. Will have to check it out if I can on my next visit. Always appreciate when someone posts a dining establishment. Good to Monger on a full stomach!
[QUOTE=Bravo;2607810]You can stay for 90 days, leave brasil for 1 day and then return and stay another 90 days. I know guys who go to Foz do Iguayou, stay the night in Argentina the head back to brasil the next day.[/QUOTE]Maybe one has to stay overnight, because I checked my old passport and I didn't get 90 days when I crossed the border to Ciudad del Este and came back the same day.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2607700]4. There is an unlimited supply of BBFS / CIP girls at VM / 116/ centro prives; even at 4 x4, 65, solarium (bring your tests like Anaggie, and of course your cash).[/QUOTE]What would you say the success rate is without the tests? I mean, is it anything like SE Asia? And would a fake test work?
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2607867]Thanks for the Restaurant listing. Will have to check it out if I can on my next visit. Always appreciate when someone posts a dining establishment. Good to Monger on a full stomach![/QUOTE]Or empty? I like to know about good restaurants too, but prefer to monger on a light to empty stomach and eat later. Works out better for me to be "hungry" when it's time to smash some tutes LOL!
Success rates at vm w / o tests is 90 pct.
For ethical reasons I will not answer about fake tests. You don't point a gun at something unless you want to destroy it.
[QUOTE=EgyMongerNew;2607869]What would you say the success rate is without the tests? I mean, is it anything like SE Asia? And would a fake test work?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2607415]Sadly my Rio Adventure has come to an end but here are my results:
Termas Visited:[/QUOTE]Great report and great maiden voyage. Congrats!
[QUOTE=EgyMongerNew;2607869]What would you say the success rate is without the tests? I mean, is it anything like SE Asia? And would a fake test work?[/QUOTE]BBFS at VM sounds suicidal.
1. PReP.
2. Go with girls who are tested, or start testing them at UPA (free). UPA is the free public health, like the UPP is the police pacificado.
That said, Senor Sperto is right, it is risky. But that 18 year old pussy and ass seemed to talk to me, like the Devil on the shoulder in Animal House, saying "fuck me, vagabundo, fuck me vagabundo" and I fucked that pussy, and it was good.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2608102]BBFS at VM sounds suicidal.[/QUOTE]
I had a great pernoite with Geisha, a prive girl from centro on Friday night / Saturday. We are watching beasts of no nation. Here is a easy test for good Netflix picks -- black men with guns. 6 Underground was a winner for the same reason.
We fucked for upwards of 2 hours last night, and 2 hours this morning. Both times to Ana Foxxx [URL]Kink.com[/URL] videos. Ana is so cute, and riding a nice bare black pussy to watching her tied up is a winner (though we also watched a white female cop fucked by a prison full of inmates, half of them black too). I played Felipe Ret -- the full albums, like 40 minutes, and 60 minutes.
For Trueblue, who I video messaged, I played Toby Keith, "Courtesy of the Red White and Blue."
As I write this, it is 14 h45.
She came at 21 h, on the metro from Iraja. She just had me pay $20 r for the taxi from Metro Jardim Oceanico. Wow, that is service.
She calls me Felipe Ret.
Oh, if you want to find ganja, go to the ganja coffee shop in Lapa on Rua Rezende. Do not ask Vagabundo for help with this. But you will find plenty of people there who will sell to you, upstairs in the coffee shop.
A wonderful pernoite.
Vagabundo is back to his daily workout of boxing, swimming, and lifting as of Friday.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2608346]That said, Senor Sperto is right, it is risky.[/QUOTE]If senhor Vagabundo don't mind it would be interesting to know if you have any experience of Viper retirement visa. I ask because I've been talking about this subject with some friends for a while. If you can't share info about Viper, that's just fine.
Random photos of a couple of girls I banged this past summer. The one at the beach (Grumari) was a Monte Carlo who became my Namoradinha for a few weeks (not recommended, a costly and emotionally draining experience). The silicone girl was from T65 who insisted that I film her giving me a BJ.
Missing those Termas.
Senhor Sperto,
I have not heard of the Viper Retirement Visa. I can ask the HR staff at my school, who did mine (not a retirement Visa) on the advice of the staff from my country, Switzerland, oh Switzerland, whose embassy is there in Lapa too, albeit in kind of a sketchy area near Gloria, but close enough to the excellent LoveTime Motel.
One of my regulars, Midori, gets her tests for free at a UPA. She is a dead ringer for Midori. I love her bare pussy, and she gives up her ass with no problem. Obviously the hole has been widened well by the dicks of Rio. She holds down a VM post, but she also appears from time to time at trash casas like 116, and Club 13 near Uruguiana Metro. Midori and I went to a Barra upscale place to get STD tests, but they would not service her, a dark negra. Mandingoblack tells me we can find free negra pussy in Lapa, which I will have to put in more effort to get. Lapa can be dangerous especially at night, not to mention it is a shemale and gay area, but local mongers like Dante on GPArena write positively about it. Anyway, it is true that BBFSCIP in VM is risky, but getting a few regulars who get tested like Midori, who is selfishly interested in her own health, is a very possible thing.
Sitting outside 4 x4 deciding whether to go up to the sauna or to spend the 50 reais on 15 minutes of sex at 116 the other night, I saw that a college and military classmate had his first child. I am wondering for those on the board with kids and a family whether it is worth it. Vagabundo has his own opinions on the subject, but is interested in the views of other comrades.
Best.
Senhor Vababundo.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2608409]If senhor Vagabundo don't mind it would be interesting to know if you have any experience of Viper retirement visa. I ask because I've been talking about this subject with some friends for a while. If you can't share info about Viper, that's just fine.[/QUOTE]
Two ISG members gave me a few PMs about issues of which we should all be aware.
One friend had his phone stolen while in his cab by a thief who snatched the device through an open window in Ipanema. Copa. The friend, a military man, gave chase for 5 blocks but lost the exchange. Lesson is keep the windows up. I also was the victim of an attempt by this type of grab, in Barra on Av das Americas in daylight, but I avoided losing my phone, perhaps due to my cat like reflexes, daily boxing regime, and the Swiss Naval Infantry Drones operating overhead (that last bit about the drones is of course pure bullshit).
Another friend was finishing up a session at VM, when the girl said the condom came lose and demanded money for some day after pill, and called in 3 guys. He did get out without losing property, but he had his credit card and 700 reais. Lesson is: don't take any more than necessary.
Preference poll: You've got exactly 7,000 BRL, all in and out, not more or less, to spend at 14 different venues (one girl, one fuck at each) in Rio. Amount spent at each venue may vary, but the total is 7,000. Name your list.
[QUOTE=Questner;2608515]Preference poll: You've got exactly 7,000 BRL, all in and out, not more or less, to spend at 14 different venues (one girl, one fuck at each) in Rio. Amount spent at each venue may vary, but the total is 7,000. Name your list.[/QUOTE]OK, I'll bite.
To me, it's not the money but time I'm short of. I only have 12-14 days to play when I travel (although if I had more time, I would care more about money, LOL).
But here is where I'd go. You do the math.
Well-known spots: 4 x4, 65, Solarium, Onix, Sexy Hot Massagens, Bel Prazer, Mosaico.
I would spend more than one morning visiting two amazing FS / massage therapists in Barra that are raved about on Gparena (check it, don't remember the names).
I'd visit at least a couple places at NS 583 like Copa Terapia and another one that escapes me now.
4-5 prives in Centro, like RB 155,158 (and such. I'd just walk around until I find someone special, LOL. I'd spend like a couple days doing that, not more.
Your formula would work, I think, if you limit yourself to one visit per place. But I tend to do more. Ie, 4 x4 and Solarium have never left me disappointed.
And then, as it happens sometimes, I meet a girl that blows my mind, and then my elaborate plans go to hell. And that's fine, too.
[QUOTE=Questner;2608515]Preference poll: You've got exactly 7,000 BRL, all in and out, not more or less, to spend at 14 different venues (one girl, one fuck at each) in Rio. Amount spent at each venue may vary, but the total is 7,000. Name your list.[/QUOTE]
Ok I'll bite......[b]My List .....All I care to go to![/b]
$7000 BRL /14=$500 BRL per venue. So the question is what venue you can not go to? [B]But you resolved that question since you said " Amount spent at each venue may vary" therefore money spent in one venue less than 500 can be use to spend more at another venue.[/B] If this is the case you can go to all venues you want to with the budget your proposing.
Attached to the following post #24656 is a 4 x4 price list.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2592818&viewfull=1#post2592818[/URL] a 60 minute encounter is 390 BRL to 450 BRL (so the savings of 110 BRL to 50 BRL to be applied to another venue which gives the next venue a spend budget of 500+110=610 BRL or 500+50=550 BRL) again the question is where can you not go to given the budget? I submit you don't need a list you can go to all of them.
Also note 500 BRL can get you pernoite in most cases if you just get numbers and have encounters at your apartment/hotel.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2607903]Or empty? I like to know about good restaurants too, but prefer to monger on a light to empty stomach and eat later. Works out better for me to be "hungry" when it's time to smash some tutes LOL![/QUOTE]LOL!! Understood!
Senhor ZebraStripes.
That is nice work sir. Falsa magra, morena clara. As Mr E says, we can never get serious with a working girl.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2608411]Random photos of a couple of girls I banged this past summer. The one at the beach (Grumari) was a Monte Carlo who became my Namoradinha for a few weeks (not recommended, a costly and emotionally draining experience). The silicone girl was from T65 who insisted that I film her giving me a BJ.
Missing those Termas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sperto;2608409]If senhor Vagabundo don't mind it would be interesting to know if you have any experience of Viper retirement visa. I ask because I've been talking about this subject with some friends for a while. If you can't share info about Viper, that's just fine.[/QUOTE]Sperto,
Someone posted this before, and I have been looking for it again. It's info on a retirement info from the SF Brazilian Consulate. I can't figure you why it's available in SF but not in NYC or DC. I believe the income requirement is now BRL 6,000, but I'm curious what they mean by able to transfer to Brazil--it seems they mean automatically. Someone on the forum had mentioned that you could buy an annuity for US $30,000 that could do this. Please share any info you find.
[URL]https://sistemas.mre.gov.br/kitweb/datafiles/SaoFrancisco/en-us/file/viper_retired.pdf[/URL]
OEM.
Thanks to Vagabundo for his help in Rio. I can only recommend everyone to visit the places you want to see in Rio together with Vagabundo if you are a newbie. He is very knowledgeable and knows exactly where to find what you want. I am shy with girls and he also helped me to translate.
One note for vaccination certificate for tourist stuff. A foreign and digital is also valid. Only also make a photo of your passport.
Hey guys,
Hope everyone is well. I am in Rio right now and was looking to connect with boots on the ground.
Any help?
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2606699]PM me to be added to a local group of boots on the ground.
We few, we happy few.[/QUOTE]Hello,
I am in Rio and would like to connect with boots on the ground. Any help would be appreciated.
50 fucks at Centro prives, 116, vm.
5 fucks at mosaico and Paris.
5 pernoites with best recruits therefrom.
[QUOTE=Questner;2608515]Preference poll: You've got exactly 7,000 BRL, all in and out, not more or less, to spend at 14 different venues (one girl, one fuck at each) in Rio. Amount spent at each venue may vary, but the total is 7,000. Name your list.[/QUOTE]
PM me.
You may need to upgrade your membership.
Wednesday 13 h meet at cinelandia Starbucks 2nd floor. Black cap "guardia de piscina".
[QUOTE=TravelJay;2608905]Hello,
I am in Rio and would like to connect with boots on the ground. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zelensky;2607415]Whiskeria 65 - Visited 6 Times. This was my underrated gem. It doesn't seem to be that well-liked but it felt like a second-home to me. It's partly because of the 70 entry that was fully consumable. I could just go in, have 3 beers and enjoy the atmosphere and it felt like I hadn't paid a cover all at. I sessioned 3 times here. Twice I got lucky and discovered a blond branca with perfect proportions who gave a very persuasive performance. She was one of the highlights of my trip. If she hadn't been there, I might not have been so impressed with the talent. They can really be quiet on Mondays and Fridays, but I had one of my best sessions on my Monday there. The other session there was simply OK. The price was quite nice. I think it's 335 for a room for an hour, and they have the best rooms of the 3 termas I visited as they are newly renovated.[/QUOTE]Termas 65 has traditionally been one of my favorite termas in Rio. It used to have a "rap" as being a place mostly for upper middle class Brazilians ready to blow some money. So, I'm like what's wrong with that LOL? Besides, I met (and fucked) some really hot brancas up in there, many of whom I shall remember forever, especially since I captured (and shared here) many of their images haha! There was a time when 65 fell off pretty badly, and even closed. I'm so glad they are back! I didn't session there the last time I was in Rio, but I'm looking forward to going back. Especially after reading your great report. Thanks!
I have a beach photography date.
Maybe Thursday. I will advise.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2609007]PM me.
You may need to upgrade your membership.
Wednesday 13 h meet at cinelandia Starbucks 2nd floor. Black cap "guardia de piscina".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2608940]50 fucks at Centro prives, 116, vm.
5 fucks at mosaico and Paris.
5 pernoites with best recruits therefrom.[/QUOTE]Fair enough: all nighters in the mix; and then basically Centro plus Cafe Paris. Thanks for the previous libertine link (Dante-RJ's post).
Last Oct was my 1st trip to Rio / Brazil. Making my way down again this October.
Me and my buddy had a great time at Centaurus and Solarium and Monte Carlo. (4 x 4 wasn't reopened then) I see plenty of posts on solarium and 4 x4 but not too much about Centaurus. Did they fall off or something? I know talent and places sometimes have ups and downs. But nobody ever mentions Centaurus any longer.
You can get it at Pacheco pharmacy on Rua Senador Dantes near Metro Carioca.
$200 r for 30 tablets.
Just really quick on 65 because I forgot to report. I had a nice black chick there named Naomi. Great body. Really nice PHAT ass! Not much up top from what I remember. She sucks a mean one and can take a good pounding too. She had a twin sister that I hit before too but disappointing so if you're interested make sure you get Naomi. You won't regret it.
As for 65 in general, it's hit or miss in my opinion. I like to go early before they open upstairs and the place turns into a club atmosphere. I think the girls can come and go as they please so the line up varies wildly.
So Geisha came over pernoite.
We fucked last night briefly.
We fucked so far 4 times today, the first on the balcony.
Then I offered her 250 for another night.
We may go to the beach.
She's a prive girl.
All is well.
First off thank you guys for the intel! This thread is gold.
I followed Vagabond advice. I bused over to Centro from Copa. Very cheap.
And scenic bus ride. I went to 116 around 1500 h. 1 girl I was the only customer.
I left walked to Belpar prive. Sessioned with a girl. Wonderful experience smell good, blowjob.
Ok, good spirit. It is a good place for newbies to get acclimated. I left and was walking the area (I like to walk) and stumbled on.
Another place like 116. I go in immediately see a solid 8. I session with her.
80 reais 20 minutes. She can fuck ride backwards cowgirl perfect. Ok blowjob. I decide to leave.
I catch the bus back to Copa. I was walking and ran into a girl heading to Mab's. I take her for drink. We go.
Back to my place to fuck. I like her she didn't outright ask for money. She asked for a present at the end.
(Same thing as asking for money) but I like how to went about it. I give her 300 reais because I really enjoyed her company.
Sorry for long post but thanks guys. I am going back today.
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[QUOTE=TravelJay;2609736]First off thank you guys for the intel! This thread is gold.
I followed Vagabond advice. I bused over to Centro from Copa. Very cheap.
And scenic bus ride. I went to 116 around 1500 h. 1 girl I was the only customer.
I left walked to Belpar prive. Sessioned with a girl. Wonderful experience smell good, blowjob.
Ok, good spirit. It is a good place for newbies to get acclimated. I left and was walking the area (I like to walk) and stumbled on.
Another place like 116. I go in immediately see a solid 8. I session with her.
80 reais 20 minutes. She can fuck ride backwards cowgirl perfect. Ok blowjob. I decide to leave.
I catch the bus back to Copa. I was walking and ran into a girl heading to Mab's. I take her for drink. We go.
Back to my place to fuck. I like her she didn't outright ask for money. She asked for a present at the end.
(Same thing as asking for money) but I like how to went about it. I give her 300 reais because I really enjoyed her company.
Sorry for long post but thanks guys. I am going back today.
[/QUOTE]This a long post? No it isn't. Please keep going, LOL.
A couple of questions.
By Belpar do you mean Bel Prazer? And do you remember that other place "like 116"?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2609884]This a long post? No it isn't. Please keep going, LOL.
A couple of questions.
By Belpar do you mean Bel Prazer? And do you remember that other place "like 116"?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Yes it was Bel Prazer and I can't remember the location of the 2nd place like 116. It is set up just like 116 in the same sort of alleyway. I will figure it out and post.
Yes Bel Prazer and I can't remember the location of the place like 116. It has green lights from the street. Set up very similar to 116. I will figure out the location and post.
This is a really good report.
Basically, he does the centro prives and 116 (or 114, or the trash casas nearby).
Moreover, riding local buses is a good move, and shows a high degree of courage and ability to adapt to the environment.
So, today, Vagabundo woke with Geisha, after a good sleep. Her massage was key, and a big reason that Vagabundo keeps her around.
She had a headache or something, and while Vagabundo would not normally accept that excuse, the whole 2 day pernoite and the beach trip yesterday were so good, he overlooked the issue and paid her 650 plus some bus money, took her down to reception, and that was that.
Vagabundo headed to centro on the 14 h20, made an appointment with one of the usual suspects, and blew a load or two. It wasn't great, because it was covered, but it was checking the box for fucking once a day.
120 r for an hour. Play felipe ret, orochi.
[QUOTE=TravelJay;2609736]First off thank you guys for the intel! This thread is gold.
I followed Vagabond advice. I bused over to Centro from Copa. Very cheap.
And scenic bus ride. I went to 116 around 1500 h. 1 girl I was the only customer.
I left walked to Belpar prive. Sessioned with a girl. Wonderful experience smell good, blowjob.
Ok, good spirit. It is a good place for newbies to get acclimated. I left and was walking the area (I like to walk) and stumbled on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TravelJay;2609906]Yes Bel Prazer and I can't remember the location of the place like 116. It has green lights from the street. Set up very similar to 116. I will figure out the location and post.[/QUOTE]Rua the alfândega 119.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2609007]PM me.
You may need to upgrade your membership.
Wednesday 13 h meet at cinelandia Starbucks 2nd floor. Black cap "guardia de piscina".[/QUOTE]Trying to message you but getting error says you have exceeded your message limit till you clear some out.
I am Boots on the ground in Copa.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2609924]This is a really good report.
Basically, he does the centro prives and 116 (or 114, or the trash casas nearby).
Moreover, riding local buses is a good move, and shows a high degree of courage and ability to adapt to the environment. [/QUOTE]You ain't kidding. Even Zona Sul cariocas are so scared of buses, it's kind of funny considering they run so full. Maybe they know something we don't, LOL. But they're also scared of their own Centro, too.
I know many, many years ago there was a hijacking that ended badly, with a female passenger killed during the siege and the perp shot dead by the cops after he surrendered. They just took him behind the bus and executed right there with the news crews cameras running and such.
A real estate broker back in the day told me she wouldn't be caught dead on a bus. A cute girl and a samba dancer.
Anyway, I'm not scared of using buses, but not during the rush hours. Metro is better and faster.
Yeah, I hate the city bus, mainly because of the noise compared to the luxury tourist bus from Transamerica to centro. On the other hand, there are hot af women on the bus, and I do get numbers there. However, it is difficult to convert, probably because I am not a 19 year old futbol player.
I had a non pro thing going with a police girl, and I took her on a date to aconchega carioca in praca bandeira, which was a bad move, probably because it is a lower class area right next to VM. But damn, she was a hot AF mulata with big titties, just like I like them, big milk jugs and pretty dick sucking lips, and a nice big booty to bend over my balcony in Transamerica which overlooks the Atlantic ocean, where I like to bend over my girls several times a day, where the people in the 7 towers of Riviera de forno can watch us bang, me behind her, with a lululemon shirt wrapped around her neck as a leash, with my sunglasses on her face (which she seems to have stolen, but that's ok). I love it when we both watch people come out into their balconies in plain sight across from us, 200 to 500 meters away in the 7 towers, an easy rifle shot for a scoped FN FAL, or even on iron sights. Then we go inside and finish the deed on the bed. I love my condo. We go over the marapindi canal in the little exclusive hotel boat, we walk to the beach, we order fish on the beach, smoke ganja, swim a little, and then we come back to the crib to milk my testicles because that is what hookers are good for, and who really wants a wife. Kids maybe, but a wife? Jesus h mother fucking christ, organized religion is just a way to take care of women who's pussies are stretched out by child bearing.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2610024]You ain't kidding. Even Zona Sul cariocas are so scared of buses, it's kind of funny considering they run so full. Maybe they know something we don't, LOL. But they're also scared of their own Centro, too.
I know many, many years ago there was a hijacking that ended badly, with a female passenger killed during the siege and the perp shot dead by the cops after he surrendered. They just took him behind the bus and executed right there with the news crews cameras running and such.
A real estate broker back in the day told me she wouldn't be caught dead on a bus. A cute girl and a samba dancer.
Anyway, I'm not scared of using buses, but not during the rush hours. Metro is better and faster.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2610024]You ain't kidding. Even Zona Sul cariocas are so scared of buses, it's kind of funny considering they run so full. Maybe they know something we don't, LOL. But they're also scared of their own Centro, too.
I know many, many years ago there was a hijacking that ended badly, with a female passenger killed during the siege and the perp shot dead by the cops after he surrendered. They just took him behind the bus and executed right there with the news crews cameras running and such.
A real estate broker back in the day told me she wouldn't be caught dead on a bus. A cute girl and a samba dancer.
Anyway, I'm not scared of using buses, but not during the rush hours. Metro is better and faster.[/QUOTE]95% of people that commute by public transportation is normal working people going about there day. It's no different than the hoods in LA or the bad areas in Thailand. Small elder ladies was on the bus dressed well jewelry on purse everything. If they are ok taking the "risk" I am as well.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2610099]Yeah, I hate the city bus, mainly because of the noise compared to the luxury tourist bus from Transamerica to centro. On the other hand, there are hot af women on the bus, and I do get numbers there. However, it is difficult to convert, probably because I am not a 19 year old futbol player.
I had a non pro thing going with a police girl, and I took her on a date to aconchega carioca in praca bandeira, which was a bad move, probably because it is a lower class area right next to VM. But damn, she was a hot AF mulata with big titties, just like I like them, big milk jugs and pretty dick sucking lips, and a nice big booty to bend over my balcony in Transamerica which overlooks the Atlantic ocean, where I like to bend over my girls several times a day, where the people in the 7 towers of Riviera de forno can watch us bang, me behind her, with a lululemon shirt wrapped around her neck as a leash, with my sunglasses on her face (which she seems to have stolen, but that's ok). I love it when we both watch people come out into their balconies in plain sight across from us, 200 to 500 meters away in the 7 towers, an easy rifle shot for a scoped FN FAL, or even on iron sights. Then we go inside and finish the deed on the bed. I love my condo. We go over the marapindi canal in the little exclusive hotel boat, we walk to the beach, we order fish on the beach, smoke ganja, swim a little, and then we come back to the crib to milk my testicles because that is what hookers are good for, and who really wants a wife. Kids maybe, but a wife? Jesus h mother fucking christ, organized religion is just a way to take care of women who's pussies are stretched out by child bearing.[/QUOTE]Next week I leave my current AirBnB and will be looking for another place. This Transamerica spot sounds good. I read on your other post that it is less than $20/ day if you book a month?
I had geisha over for pernoite Friday. She texted me, and she comes to Barra, to the metro jardim oceanico and takes a taxi to my pad. I pay the $20 r for the taxi, she comes up, and we bang on the balcony, do the churrasuria on the corner of my balcony, and then fuck fuck fuck on the huge bed. I put on some [URL]kink.com[/URL] , some combination of Ana foxxx submissive and even something with a dominant black girl for her (the porn theme always gets their attention).
She plays cacife clandistino, to mix it up from the Felipe ret.
She gives me a great backrub, we wake up, rinse repeat.
I give her 300 plus some fare for the bus, walk her down to reception.
Thus nut busted on a Saturday, I kind of blow off the two other girls who are texting me. I tell them to come to barra, which of course, they do not (in one case), and in the other case, she only comes up briefly on facebook, and she expects me to come to her, which being nut busted, I do not do.
[QUOTE=TravelJay;2610165]Next week I leave my current AirBnB and will be looking for another place. This Transamerica spot sounds good. I read on your other post that it is less than $20/ day if you book a month?[/QUOTE]I couldn't find a website for Transamerica and apparently it full for January on [URL]booking.com[/URL] , if its 20 $ it pretty cheap for Barra the Tijuca.
[QUOTE=TravelJay;2610165]Next week I leave my current AirBnB and will be looking for another place. This Transamerica spot sounds good. I read on your other post that it is less than $20/ day if you book a month?[/QUOTE]Do Transamerica have a website it shows no availability in January though.
FWIW, there is now a bank card powered laundry in the basement (1's level) of Transamerica.
There is also a snack shop with every beer, soda, snack on the same level.
And if you want to pick up girls at church, they have a pentacostal service there also on Thursdays and Sunday.
[URL]https://www.associacaomediterraneo.com/[/URL]
You can ask for the DJ Vagabundo discount (there is none, but soon may be), and the DJ Vagabundo Suite (I actually may be subletting my love crib, where I am currently having a dupla with Michelle Obama and Melania Trump and Ivanka Trump (who is on a leash, eating out Michelle)).
Actually I am in bed with Ana Foxxx. The ***** is in the house.
She totally is pussy whipping me. I picked her up at Rio Sul. It was raining, so we took a $86 reais cab ride, but it is what 16 USD. Then she asks for 100 r from last time (I say, OK). Then we agree to $500 r, for which I demand photos. She negotiates for everything. But I fucked her BBFSCIP (she even was asking for an extra $100 r for anal), and I finally got sick of the upselling, so even though she was like "no goza endentro" I creampied her 20 year old childless pussy. Then I ate her pussy til she came, and she had already ordered BK, so fuck it. I fucked it. We smoked hash and weed, and we are watching 6 Underground.
And $600 reais is only $120 USD so fucking no big deal. Life is good. Haha.
BTW, I had a great patrol with ISG Dark7. We met up and had a good lunch at the Clube Naval (the restaurant downstairs).
Then I took him to Bel Prazer in RB185. There is a girl there who goes by Natalia, she is a mulatta, and I encourage you to to go fuck her ass. I was banging her for about a year pernoite during the height of the pandemic. She's a hot little mulatta, but she knows it, and she kept jacking up the uber prices, so I moved on, but I may again bang her -- especially at a swing, where I can just offer up her holes for a gangbang. She'd probably like that. Haha. Then we went over to Treze de Maio 33, up to 3206, where I did the apresentacao with Stephany et al. There was a new Mineira, who apparently is rooming with Stephany. I think, just to fuck with Stephany, I am going to start just fucking the Morena mineira. So, now my wingman knows the centro prive main buildings, then we headed to Mosaico at 17 h to get the daylight recon. We saw canario hotel, we walked through VM, he even got numbers, then we walked to Sao Cristovao Metro, where we headed to Uruguiana, and he headed to Av Buenos Aires 44, the boardroom. Then I headed to Rio Sul, and picked up Ana Foxxx at the mall, and took her back to the Barra Love shack.
[QUOTE=Fellas;2611663]Do Transamerica have a website it shows no availability in January though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2611708]FWIW, there is now a bank card powered laundry in the basement (1's level) of Transamerica.
There is also a snack shop with every beer, soda, snack on the same level.
And if you want to pick up girls at church, they have a pentacostal service there also on Thursdays and Sunday.[/QUOTE]Someone claimed here a few weeks ago that girls had moved out of Transamerica, is that true? Where did they go?
Senor Bearsi mentioned that at dinner when I was out with him and Senor Dodochen a few weeks ago.
Could you link to the post? I tried to find it without success.
That said, I still see fairly obvious hooker type girls, 20 year olds who are stacked like brick shit houses, nublile, and with the bodies of volleyball prodigees checking in, and I get their numbers and offer to be their personal photographer, a good shtick, gig, and way in. Moreover, the long time hookers I know -- for example a 4 x 4 girl I had a mini relationship with in 2015/16 -- are still in Transamerica.
Brazilians are strange in that they will get 4 people staying in a hotel room. I am in a big suite, and in the small adjoining suite, there were 3 guys in the room, for like several weeks. Now, that suite has one very attractive girl, who doesn't seem like a working girl. There are super hot blond girls on my floor, whose number I have gotten.
If Bearsi hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have noticed it, and I haven't noticed it. Maybe there are fewer obvious barravipsrio girls at the pool, but there are still girls at the pool and in reception, and in the hood. It is a great neighborhood. I would like to know if there is a new Go-To hooker hotel, I would have to look into it. It may be one of the other barra hotels. I can ask around for some of the hookers that have returned to the area.
Thanks for the intel.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2611971]Someone claimed here a few weeks ago that girls had moved out of Transamerica, is that true? Where did they go?[/QUOTE]
Ana foxxx creampied.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2611909][URL]https://www.associacaomediterraneo.com/[/URL]
You can ask for the DJ Vagabundo discount (there is none, but soon may be), and the DJ Vagabundo Suite (I actually may be subletting my love crib, where I am currently having a dupla with Michelle Obama and Melania Trump and Ivanka Trump (who is on a leash, eating out Michelle)).
Actually I am in bed with Ana Foxxx. The ***** is in the house.
She totally is pussy whipping me. I picked her up at Rio Sul. It was raining, so we took a $86 reais cab ride, but it is what 16 USD. Then she asks for 100 r from last time (I say, OK). Then we agree to $500 r, for which I demand photos. She negotiates for everything. But I fucked her BBFSCIP (she even was asking for an extra $100 r for anal), and I finally got sick of the upselling, so even though she was like "no goza endentro" I creampied her 20 year old childless pussy. Then I ate her pussy til she came, and she had already ordered BK, so fuck it. I fucked it. We smoked hash and weed, and we are watching 6 Underground.
And $600 reais is only $120 USD so fucking no big deal. Life is good. Haha.
BTW, I had a great patrol with ISG Dark7. We met up and had a good lunch at the Clube Naval (the restaurant downstairs)..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the website Vagabundo, can you book from here or first you have to make an account?
No you can't book there.
[QUOTE=Fellas;2612121]Thanks for the website Vagabundo, can you book from here or first you have to make an account?[/QUOTE]
More of Ana Foxxx's ass.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2612077]Ana foxxx creampied.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2612029]Senor Bearsi mentioned that at dinner when I was out with him and Senor Dodochen a few weeks ago.
Could you link to the post? I tried to find it without success.
That said, I still see fairly obvious hooker type girls, 20 year olds who are stacked like brick shit houses, nublile, and with the bodies of volleyball prodigees checking in, and I get their numbers and offer to be their personal photographer, a good shtick, gig, and way in. Moreover, the long time hookers I know -- for example a 4 x 4 girl I had a mini relationship with in 2015/16 -- are still in Transamerica.[/QUOTE]Well, that's all I need to know, I guess, LOL. Going to stay there for 3-4 days when I finally make it to Rio. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2612029]Senor Bearsi mentioned that at dinner when I was out with him and Senor Dodochen a few weeks ago.
Could you link to the post? I tried to find it without success.[/QUOTE]This is the post.
[QUOTE=TShelby;2601816]I stayed two nights at the Transamerica but it was a real fiasco, I noticed on the first day that not a single woman was to be seen in the Hotel, I started to write to many girls on barravips and they confirmed that they are no longer at the Transamerica, that they are no longer allowed to be there. There wasn't a single one, but it was good for me to get to know the Barra the Tijuca neighbourhood and I finally went to Ipanema Hotel.[/QUOTE]
Greetings gents and rhbak you for all the info. I went back 15 pages and enjoyed absorbing your lessons for what may be my first trip to South America, Brazil and Rio.
I see "VM" is repeated over and over again. What is "VM"?
Also, how do Rio / Brazil girls compare to Colombia (Medellin) girls? I prefer 18-21 thin girls of all colors.
Thanks for your input. Seriously considering Rio over Medellin now.
With due respect to Senor Tshelby, the main point I would make is that for Transamerica, you should stay a month or at the least 2 weeks.
The working girls are fairly obvious. The brick shithouse girl I mentioned is from Recife, totally stacked, beautiful, and I was met with a positive response to go take her beach gopro pics. So too some of the top barrvipsrio girls. Some of the returning girls from that site are, come to think of it, staying elsewhere, but I see them pop up, I hit them up on their particular / personal cell phone numbers, and we go to grumari. In best mini relationship fashion, I am not fucking them all or not on all dates. Hell, I took a favorite to Guaratiba and we had a great lunch (paella, best I have ever had), and we didn't fuck (she demanded payment up front, and I was like, nah babe, you're not the only ass in the hood). I see some guys come through and they stay at Transamerica for 2 days and they expect a pornstar to come up to them in the lobby and start sucking their dick right there. In any case, the relative merits of barra v copa have been litigated here, and it is a high class argument -- Miami / san diego v times square, you can't go wrong (ipanema is very nice, actually, I was there with dark7 yesterday). My view is the best hood in zona sul is botafogo. In barra, senor safado69 had noted that the best hood may be around p1, where he had rented a Airbnb on the beach road near perola negra. [URL]ksportal.com.br[/URL] has some good apartments there for around $50 USD a night.
Anyway, I am on a pernoite with Anne amari, a 116 girl, bbfscip for 300 reais. Blew 2 loads last night after 2+ hours of fucking. Got off another 2 loads this morning after a few shorter rounds. She is well trained, my dick gets hard, her lips go on my dick. She followed directions to take the metro to metro jardim oceanico, then take a taxi to av gastao senges 395, where I paid (17 r or so), and so she won the prize for the Wednesday night pernoite with vagabundo.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2612186]This is the post.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabriel071;2612301]I see "VM" is repeated over and over again. What is "VM"?[/QUOTE]Google Vila Mimosa.
[QUOTE=Gabriel071;2612301]Also, how do Rio / Brazil girls compare to Colombia (Medellin) girls? I prefer 18-21 thin girls of all colors.[/QUOTE]Brazilians are much smarter than Colombians. Most 18-21 year olds are going to be somewhere studying and not out hoaring.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2612485]
Brazilians are much smarter than Colombians. Most 18-21 year olds are going to be somewhere studying and not out hoaring.[/QUOTE]That’s funny.
Not true, but funny. 😅
She is over.
I patrolled centro today with dark7.
We hit up club in lapa. I am definitely interested in this spot. Opens 8 pm.
I then went to a cool hostel in copa. I will post the deets (see screenshots of our zap group).
Then I came home and met geisha. She is being weird with the BBFSCIP, probably because I didn't clean well (I said I let another guy use my room haha).
Anne amari wanted to go out to a balada (music or dance club). I ditched her and went to the 1 distrito naval store and got a nice shirt with a velcro patch. However some of the club girls may think it makes me look like a cop. Which I was.
We also hit club 13, and there is a smoking negra from duque de caixis.
We hit darkroom, good talent, nice atmosphere.
[URL]darkroom.com.br[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2612485]Google Vila Mimosa.
Brazilians are much smarter than Colombians. Most 18-21 year olds are going to be somewhere studying and not out hoaring.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response LOL. I may be going to Rio for a few weeks. I've went back 30 pages now and found some great info. I think I would avoid VM based on some of the comments here.
Any suggestions for nearby brothels or outcall services, or massage parlors near Copacabana? Looking for BBFSCIP primarily, and possibly keeping a good provider around for a week or so (overnights).
Silly question: any issues with electricity and US devices? I have an adapter and see that Brazil uses Type and at 240 v. I'll be bringing medical equipment with me to use and having it not work would be a deal breaker.
Any suggestions on hotels? Considering JW Marriott but it seems there are better choices at the beach.
The week in baseball.
It is Friday, 10 h45.
Vagabundo, a Swiss Naval Intelligence Lieutenant Commander, Retired, who served his country well is in his love shack. Geisha has milked his nuts 3 times this morning, lastly BBFSCIP. She did once last night.
We are watching Dom on Amazon Prime.
Vagabundo gives Amazon Prime 4 out of 5 stars.
[URL]Kink.com[/URL] gets 5 out of 5, since we just watched Carmen Caliente's Brazilian loira pussy get fucked in bondage. Where do you find loiras like her? There are a few at 4 x 4. They are monopolized by locals who gangbang them in the sultao suite.
So, Commander Vagabundo, the hero of the Battle of Lugano, 2027, is planning on paying Geisha 350 or 400. She is coming over with her big titted blond slave girl, Samantha Strong on Sunday. I will collect model releases and IDs.
I met up with Dark7 again last night.
I highly recommend the ganja coffee shop, Rua Rezende 82. It is around the corner from the up house boate, which I need to check out, as I think it has good mulatas. We got free pass cards from the bouncer, Will.
[URL]https://ganjah.com.br/[/URL]
We went in there and they had guys offering product. I sampled some and it is good $ativa. I ordered a burger for $8 reais. It was excellent.
[URL]http://www.barraleme.com/Hoteis/Barrabella/barrabella.htm[/URL]
Av. Lúcio Costa, 4700 - Barra the Tijuca. RJ.
My checks with some of the local hoars who move around and used to be in Transamerica indicates that this may be the new Barra Hoartel. Since it is less than 300 meters away from Transamerica, Vagabundo will have to go over and recon the pool. Due to his flawless bombeiro and lifeguard disguise, he will likely just slide in without any scrutiny.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2612186]This is the post.[/QUOTE]