Panama City

Spin The Globe,

Good and substantive reporting; great insight!

I’ve been lurking here trying to assess my prospects in Panama, yet am concerned that it’s a bit pricey for my taste. Unfortunately, you didn’t offer much by way of prices paid. Perhaps you can let me know how much for the various “selections” from the line-ups.

By the way, kudos for the quick thinking and presence of mind to have the bellman “accidentally” push the wrong floor – sounds like me. Damn, us mongers think alike.

Ez

Hey Spin,

Nice reports again. I have a couple of comments. Bacchus definately has some hot young Panamanians. On a Friday or Saturday night the selection is quite good, but totally non-pro.

In terms of hotels, Coral Suites quoted me that they have a no guess policy when I e-mailed them so I am surprised that you got away with the girlfriend line with you being a foreigner and your girls being Colombians. I stayed at the Ambassador Suites a year ago which is right next to Coral and they allow guests. Prices should be about the same more or less.

What is Coco's and where is it at? Is it similar to Miami, Le Palace, and Elite?

As for Elite, the $25 VIP dance is for one song when I went. You got lucky with your first experience.

Your taxi driver lied to you. I took a day trip to Isla Grande. While it is far, 2-3 hour drive, the roads weren't a problem. It is nice to see the Caribbean coast, the island was just ok though. If I go back, I want to hit Isla Contadora (Pearl Islands) next time.


Can more people post about the action in Casco Viejo like the poster below? This forum has plenty of info on GT and Le Palace so it would be nice to diversify.

Termas Time

Hello Board,

Not sure if my question has been seen by any fellow mongers. As it will be my first time to PTY, and ony for 4 days, I am hoping for some guidance for a gringo as posted below. Again, I thank all for their posts. As I have little Spanish, any help is appreciated.

Wizz

"Hello All,

I will be going to Panama for my first time in the next few weeks and will have one or two days to try and take all of your advice and put it into practice. So, I could use a lot of help.

I will probably arrive on Saturday or Sunday and will have my late evenings free for 3 or 4 nights. I would prefer to not have to bring the girls back to my hotel, so I am looking for on site rooms, or clubs/SWs with nearby hotels. I will also have to try GT based on all the posts about it. I gather the best time is in evening after 9:00 pm or so.

Question 1: What are my best options for clubs that have rooms or nearby hotels?

Question 2: What should I plan on budgeting in USD for one per night sessions at an "average price".

Question 3: If I have to use my hotel, is call in going to get better results than taking a girl back with me?

And of course, any other suggestions and observations are greatly appreciated."

Wizzywig and Macgoo;

First Wizz; There are others much more experienced that could do a better job of answering your questions, but since noone got back to you I’ll give it a shot.
First, you mention coming on either Sat or Sun. Well if you have ANY choice in the matter, come on Sat. On Sun; Le Palace and Coco’s are closed. At Elite the talent was horrible both Sundays I was there, and at GT several of the best girls were missing from the line-up. The city seems almost dead on Sunday.

As far as SW’s with nearby hotels, the forum member Caysal has good info below, you should contact him

Whether or not your hotel will hassle you on girls certainly depends on the hotel, and more importantly the person working the door/desk when you enter.

I found it to be infinitely easier when you walked in with a girl as opposed to calling a girl to your hotel and dealing with the front desk people. As Termas Times mentions in his post, my hotel, Coral Suites has a no-guest policy

When I had girls come over and the receptionist would call me to tell me I had a visitor, every time I had to do a little tap-dance to let them allow my visitor to enter. But they never did stop me once. I did get the feeling though that had I tried a few more times, they might have cut me off completely.

The times when I would enter with a girl, go in confidently, holding hands, and nod at the front desk, they barely batted an eye. I feel that it would take a pretty gutsy front desk clerk to say to a paying guest basically: “excuse me sir you can’t bring that hooker in here”, when this desk clerk at the night shift in a fairly busy hotel is not going to know if that is your girlfriend/wife etc. Just my opinion, YMMV.

Finally for both Macgoo and you, You asked for how much per night to budget and Macgoo asked for the line-up girls costs.
The line-up Macgoo is at GT The price is $84/hr if you make it to the door alone, $94/hr if the taxi takes you there, (yes, a $10 kickback to the cabbie.) To avoid this as I learned from other posters: ask the taxi to take you to the Plaza Mirage, which is the small shopping center where GT is located, tell him to let you off at Popeye’s Fried Chicken (on the corner of the Plaza Mirage). Enter, wait for your taxi to leave, then stroll the 3 doors down to GT.

As far as other prices they are all pretty well covered throughout the forum. The higher end places definitely have beautiful girls, but theyare not cheap,. The second tier and below clubs are much more affordable, but on my visits they didn't have much talent.
I hope this helps!

PANAMA QUICKIE TRIP:

WIZZY: For four days, there is no reason to go anywhere except Golden Times. Charge is about $90 for a one hour session, very clean and safe, and they are VERY strict with the girls and if you complain they may send the girl back to Colombia, so you always get treated well there. It should cost you about $2 for the taxi ride to GT from almost anywhere in the city. The taxi driver may ask you if you want him to wait, say no or he will try to charge you $20 for "waiting". Just have the doorman get you a new cab when you leave. There is also a good Chinese restaurant in the back on the second floor near GT. If you tired of GT, which you shouldn't in 4 days, the Miami Club is only 4 blocks away, similar setup, but the girls are hotter at GT. You will be constantly pressured to go to other places, mostly Le Palace and the River Club, by cabbies who will get a commission, but don't bother. GT is one of the best houses in the whole world, no reason to leave there if you have less than a week!

hey spin, just a question, if really went to coronado, did you passed a checkpoint at the entrance? if you did, it really was coronado.
if you didnt pass through a checkpoint, then it wasnt coronado and you got ripped.
Coronado has beaches with white sands, i can tell you since i live here in panama, and to get into coronado you have to know someone, since its like a private neighborhood

Termas,

Sorry, I didn’t see your question to me earlier. Cocos is a club that is part of the El Panama Hotel. No, it is not like Elite or Le Palace. It is a smallish club with a live band on Thur, Fri and Sat. It is kind of a strange setting in that there are couples of all ages in there dancing and drinking like in a normal club, but then there are all of these single girls..

Most seemed to be Colombianas without papers, but there were a few local working girls as well. Believe me they are not all beauties, and the selection varied widely. But there were a couple of hotties, and the one 1 spent 2 of the
last 3 nights with was as good as any girl in Elite, or GT. If the selection is not great it is just a fun place to watch the locals dance, and listen to some live music, but when some good ones are there, it provides a nice, affordable take-out option.

By the way, how did you get to Isla Grande, and how much did you pay? Also, if /when I go back to Panam, Isla Contadora is high on my list. Have you checked prices, on the flights; my guide book said $26 each way, but the book was a few years old.

Also, thanks for the tip on the Ambassador, I would probably try that next time rather than hassle with the Coral Suites

Gaunt Man,
I really didn’t care which beach I went to, I did want to go to Isla Grande, but my taxi kept saying it would take too long. So he suggested Coronado. Yes, we did pass a checkpoint, where I paid $4.25 each for me & the girl, which got us a ticket to the beach club. Then we drove through a rich area with some beautiful houses, one HUGE one that he pointed out was the 2nd president’s house. We drove through this area to arrive at the cheesy beach club. Like I said my pool at the hotel was better than this one, and most everyone stayed by the pool rather than on the beach. But yes there was a wide section of this lava type, black sand, and then towards the water there was more normal white sand beaches. So, I’m guessing I was in Coronado, plus the girl had been to Coronado before, and she didn’t say this isn’t the right place.. Anyway, the place sucked and I would go elsewhere next time.

Spin,

I actually stopped in Coco's (I forgot the name of place) a couple of times but never saw anything appealing mostly just couples or groups of people dancing to salsa. But other mongers in the past have mentionned cutting deals with women there. Kind of frustrating because that place is essentially across the street from Coral and Ambassador, but like I said nothing was really available that I noticed.

For island trips, I was told to expect to pay around $150 for round trip airfare to Isla Contadora if I remember correctly. There are many flights that go there daily. When I went to Isla Grande I payed my driver $90 for the whole day. We stopped at a fort on the way there, stayed at isla grande for a couple of hours, the we went a place between isla grande and colon where I went to do some snorkeling off some other island. Like I said the trip will be long, but I don't remember problems with the roads.

Hope that helps.

Termas Time

Night One in Panama

Well I had set up a night thing with a colombiana that I met on Amigos.com, but when I called hewr cell I got a song and dance that its was the wrong number, even though we haf talked days before. Well with that plan shot I called another Mongor who lives in Panama (free sex). He was doing nothing and he stopped by my hotel (torres de Alba $66 a night internet special) and we shot over to Elite II, BUT we thought about it and decided to skip it and raced over to Miami Club.

Miami Club

We kicked it had a drink called over a young ladie, nice thin body, Boobs and Ass were alittle smaller then I like but prety face. Said she was colombiana and her name was Andrea, well she gave me a lap dance and then quoted me $90 for one hour anything goes. DAMN anything? well I was already horny before I hit Panama and this fine thing grinding me got me more eroused and I thought I will probably POP in 15 minuets so I passed and kept my $90 dollars. Free Sex then suggested Fenix club so that I can get that initial POP out of the way so I can concentrate on long sessions.

Fenix Club

In a less then better part of Panama BUT not at all dangerous like previously reported, BUT I would recommend the buddy system. Nice looking girls 5 to 8 on the scale. After an hour of searching for that special girl (YA RIGHT), I settled for a colombian 20 year old that had a decend body (JENNY around a 7), paid my $26 dollars for half and hour. WHY $26 and bot $22? I made the mistake of admitting I arrived by taxi. (this spot is supposed to be $11 dollars for 15 min of fun). This girl gave the most amazing CBJ with complete ball massage, the fucking was decend we hit missionary and cowgirl, I know she cummed I was pounding it so hard, and she loved it (at least she moaned like she did, but who really cares its my moment right!), when we were done she took me by my TOOL and soaped me up and washed my Tool, she told me to please come back B4 I leave on sunday. She doesnt have a cell phone( ??) so i didnt bother with a date for the next day.

Free Sex saved the night and tomorrow we are hitting baccus club to try to find some Free Sex (non pro´s). I wil spend the day mongoring until we go out.

More to come!

Blitzdog

Spin the Globe,

Forget about Contadora, I’ve been there and the hotel is an overpriced dump.

Forget about Isla Grande as well if you want to party. It is very rural and they literally turn out lights at about 9 P.M. It is very pretty area to enjoy the beach and jungle during the day but at night there's nothing to do but screw or sleep. We couldn't even find anything to eat after about 8 P.M.

If you want to have a good time at the beach in Panama for a reasonable price, check out the new Decameron resort. They have an all-inclusive deal, where you pay one price and then eat, drink and party for no extra cost. If you go on a weekday it can be very reasonable.

Check it out at:

http://www.decameron.com/index_main.html

Trojan

Spin,

I spent a few days at Isla Grande. Here's the scoop: It is about 2.5-3 hours from Panama City. The roads are great for most of the way but the last half hour is mediocre (ie lots of pot holes but very manageable). BTW if your taxi driver was Daniel that explains why his story doesn't add up.

When you get to IG there are 2 good places to stay: Bananas Resort and Isla Grande Hotel. I stayed at Bananas. Check out their web site. Bananas is on one side of the island by itself. It is very quiet but well run and great staff. $95 per day if you stay more than 3 days. They have a website and will arrange all transfers to and from Panama City. I would recommend this after my problems with the taxi driver. A taxi will cost about $50 to go and $50 for him to return and get you a few days later if you want to arrange your own transport.

There is a well marked trail from Bananas to the other side of the island where all the village is. The trail goes over a hill that is quite a climb (about 350 feet high) so you will get some exercise. In the village is the Isla Grande Resort, some small hotels and some small beach bars. Not much night life on the island except for the weekends when the Colombians and rich Panamanians arrive.

IG is great to get away from it all and have a few days relaxing but not much for chicas. I did meet a nice girl at the beach bar and did score but I think I got lucky. Better to bring your own.

Round trip flights to Isla Contadora is $55.00.

Day Two in Panama ( My birthday)

In the Am my favorite panamanian girl came by for breakfast, we headed out to do some shopping and then hit my room for some much needed lovin, mission, doggy and BBBJ. She is 24 and about a 7 on the scale. Boy can she give a blow

In the early afternoon two girls that I met on amigos.com came by we talked and i was completely turned off by both of them. They were 7´s on the scale but looked too much like hookers instead of sexy, they took pics (clothed) but still I had no interest. As soon as I was able to free myself I headed over to horario (oriental massage).

Horario

I hooked up with a 21 yr old panamanian girl who´s name I have forgotten. She had a beautiful smile and a attractive face, her body was OK, but I am into petite women. To me she was a 6. she gave a decent massage, and a excellent CBJ. I did some DATY and made her cum 2 times. When we got down to buisness she like cowboy and really got into it. I got her in teh reverse missioonary and made her cum again, she liked it and kept throwing her ass back at me (luv that shit). She really seemed to get into it (who really knows). I made plans for this girl to stop by tomorrow night around 10 after work for an all nighter, lets see if she stops by. Later my panamanian pica stopped by for anther long session, I was tired I was going on with only 4 hours of sleep, but I needed to get ready Free sex and his friend were coming by to take me to club baccus.

Baccuss

OK if you are not in your 30´s this might not be the best place to hit, alot of college age girls that seem to be protected by male friends, when they see an older guy approach them, in fact alot of cock blocking going on by everyone. I did met a college girl from New York, we talked but nothing happen, I actually went home tired after all 3 sessions on my b-day made this day good.

Its 4am and I am headed to bed, my panamanian pica is stopping by around 9 am for more fun, I think she is a nymph! hahaha

OK see you later

Blitzdog

Day Three in PTY

My day started with a nice long session with my panamanian chica and some time at the canal, el central, and amador. In the early afternoon I hit Royal ellegance and river club.

River Club

I cant remember her name but she had brunette hair, about 5'3 maybe 115 lbs she was real nice and had firm breast and strong hands gave a great massage. I payed the usual 23 to house and 40 to her plus 10 tip. We did it missionary, cowgirl, She gave a CBJ.

Later I passed on my panamanian chica I was feeling alittle under the weather, I was tired, havent sleep much. In the pm I hooked up with some girl I met on amigos.com, she was 25 nice tight body and a great ass, we went to the amador and had a drink, we fooled around alittle, touching & kissing, I wanted her to go back to my hotel but she said she had to get home her baby sitter would wait all night, she wants to stop by tomorrow.

Golden Time

Well horny as hell now and my buddy was ready to play I hit the famous spot in PTY, (chicas a la sala), damn good to her that again. I remember reading about certain girls and their numbers but I had forgotten what numbers were posted on this board, I chose #28, it turned out to be Manuela, I remember her name from the board, Damn the earlier post were correct she was a great choice.

When I walked onto GT i was still dressed up, the chicas started to comment on my silk shirt how nice it was the next thing I know I got grabbed acouple of times in the crouch and ass, WOW that is a frist for me, last year when I hit GT never got touched or talked to, perhaps some new info dress nice and the girls come to you, Anyways back to manuela

Manuela

We talked and she is from Colombia, and is 22 (Looked older), she has huge tits, and a nice ass, I was so taken by her I decided for take out, $150 for hour and half. In teh cab we played touchy feely and in the elevator up to the 10th floor she grabbed my face and we shared some DFK, got to the room and did some picture things (sorry all clothed), we then hit the bed room. She gave a CBJ (nice action) and then DATY occured, she was moaning loud! She then asked me to fuck her! HEY I couldnt say no so I started slow and she loved it started with some more DFK and nibbling on my neck, I then slipped back down for some DATY and after she came again I bounded her reverse mis, and doggie, then slipped back down again (why I dont know but I loved her facial expression when DATY occured), well I then proceeded to pound her again and made her beg me to do it harder, well when all was said and done, we took a shower together and she scrubbed all my parts. Before she left she asked me for a pen and paper, she voluntered her number, e-mail and house address in colombia, she also wrote a cut little (I am in love with you) on my note book (clown), In thinking about it now I am thinking about calling on her tomorrow night if nothing pans out.

Quick Notes:

The girl from Horario never showed (no surprise), I called el complaciente.com and the dude quoted $100 for one hour and would not negotiate, so passed. What happens on my last night in PTY remains to be seen

Blitzdog

Final Thoughts, Recommendations, & Comparisons;

One last post and I’m out. Of, course as always, I’ll be happy to answer any questions.

Thanks Man, Saigon, Trojan and Termas for the flight and beach information. I’ll put it to good use next time!

Hey Blizt Dog-that was a good way to spend your birthday!

So on to the final thoughts:

Hotels: I only know 2 but I’ll give some info on both for those interested.
First, the Hotel Parador,was cheap at $38.50/night after tax. Girl friendly , had a decent pool, an ok location and a restaurant/bar in the lobby. But I left after 1 night. because the rooms are small, the security box is in the lobby, and you had to pay an $80 deposit for the safe key, which I did get back, its just you have to go to the lobby for all your transactions, then you have to carry around the key. Also, the rooms had those old-fashioned locks on them, which anyone could pick-open with a credit card, so if you have a computer or other valuables in your room beware. But if you are looking for a clean place on the cheap it is for you.

Coral Suites:
Price $50 + 5 in tax=$55. This was after asking for the corporate discount, the posted price in the room was $80. Very spacious room, that has a full sized fridge, which was great to stock-up on supplies, ie. wine, some champagne and other items, that greatly helped in entertaining the ladies. A sparkling clean roof-top pool, which was great to hang out by with the girls. A decent gym, better equipped than many in nicer hotels that I stay in on the road. Good for sweating out the previous night’s debauchery. Good electronic safe in the room, so no need to carry around a key. Free breakfast, although I only awoke once in time to eat here, normally I went to Cafeteria Manolos. .

The downside of the place is they were more girl ‘tolerant”, than girl friendly. As mentioned before, they never stopped me once, but when ordering-in, they definitely questioned me a bit. Also, previously mentioned, the trick of walking in confidentially , and holding hands went a long
way. But on one occasion the front desk girl gave me a weird look when entering with a girl, and later when I walked the girl out the front desk girl said to me “I need to speak with you later”, so when I came back in alone said , “I thought the other girl was your novia”, so I said yes, I have 2 now, and she just laughed. I never had any more problems. However, YMMV.

Recommendations:
Food; for solid clean, cheap eats Cafeteria Manolos had a solid breakfast, and some good lunch specials, nothing fancy here, but good value. It is right across from the El Panama Hotel, and Oasis.

For Non-Pro action try Club Bachus on Thursday Night. (Ladies Night)

If you are here to sightsee at all, at the very least don’t miss out on; Panama Viejo, Casco Viejo, Amador/Flamengo, and the Canal( Miraflores Lockes) By the way if you do go to Miraflores, they have a great lunch buffet, very nice for around $16.
As for the clubs/girls, they have been thoroughly covered by nearly every poster. If you have the money stick to the top-tier clubs GT, Elite, and Le Palace, and possibly Club Miami. The 2nd tier clubs were mostly horrible; Royal Elegance, River Club and Oasis, and they aren’t all that much cheaper than the top-tier. If you are truly looking to save money you may follow other posters advice and go to Club Fenix, (I haven’t been) but it is dirt cheap and the girls can’t be any worse than the 2nd tier places. But, since hunting is half the fun go check them all out and see for yourself.

Finally, for those newbies who ask the question should I go to Panama City, or San Jose CR.
I would say the city of Panama is much cleaner, more modern and safe to walk around.
The talent at the Higher -end places was much higher than any I’ve seen in CR.
However, the cost in PTY is a bit more, and the downside is the lack of any daytime quality, outside of arranging daytime dates with the Elite and Le Palace girls, and they can be a bit flaky
in keeping those appointments. In CR there is a more solid daytime setting with some decent quality that I didn’t find in PTY’s daytime clubs. But, again the higher end places at night blow-away anything CR can offer

I will definitely return to Panam and check out some of the recommended beaches . However, at some point I do have to consider going to the source of all the talent in Panama, and go directly to Colombia.

Anyway, I’m out. Off to Rio this week!
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