Cusco

[QUOTE=JayWonEm;2942508]I will be there in December for my first Peru trip as soon as Spirit resumes non-stops to Lima from southern FL. I will have to take a look at that site again, but from what I could see San Tutis is the only forum that has any activity. It may be more useful in Lima, so I appreciate the link. I will definitely be visiting the club, which I assume will be gringo-friendly with my decent working Spanish.

What are your thoughts on available upgrades, esp. BBJ? Ask, or is there some firm rule that it is not offered? The pictures I can find don't make the premises look too attractive. Would you call it a comfortable place to have a couple of beers and spend some time, or get in and get out?[/QUOTE]Visited Santutis last week and I have to say it was an experience in sex tourism, with emphasis on the tourism part because I wouldn't have done it for the sex. Got a $5 Uber from downtown and after about a 15 minute ride arrived at a security barrier with a couple of security guards blocking the road. Got out and walked up a small hill (always unpleasant in Cusco) with a handful of local guys to get to the ticket gate. Paid my S5 and went in. No check of any kind and kept my phone.

The place itself impressed me as former police or army barracks or something. It's a big empty central square with about 40-50 rooms all facing the center. A couple of bathrooms and a guy selling drinks, but otherwise no amenities. A bunch of single guys wandering around past the rooms. Some had a couple of guys waiting outside. If there was another gringo there I didn't see him. Took a pass and saw a couple of girls standing in their doorways half-dressed. After about 5 minutes I saw one who looked nice enough and we went into a small room with a bed, a concealed toilet, and a Sterno fire in the corner. We quickly negotiated S50 and proceeded with as transactional and emotionless a session as I can imagine. She was actually reasonably attractive, gave a decent CBJ, and was cooperative enough, but this was the definition of pump and dump. For an extra S10 she gave me a decent back rub, I got dressed, and when I walked out the door two guys were waiting.

I had no desire to hang around or see more. Five minutes later I was down the hill calling an Uber back to town. Total cost of around $40 and memories for a lifetime.

On my Maps are exact locations and Prices.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2909635]Here is a copy of the area Map.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayWonEm;2970305]Visited Santutis last week and I have to say it was an experience in sex tourism, with emphasis on the tourism part because I wouldn't have done it for the sex. Got a $5 Uber from downtown and after about a 15 minute ride arrived at a security barrier with a couple of security guards blocking the road. Got out and walked up a small hill (always unpleasant in Cusco) with a handful of local guys to get to the ticket gate. Paid my S5 and went in. No check of any kind and kept my phone.

The place itself impressed me as former police or army barracks or something. It's a big empty central square with about 40-50 rooms all facing the center. A couple of bathrooms and a guy selling drinks, but otherwise no amenities. A bunch of single guys wandering around past the rooms. Some had a couple of guys waiting outside. If there was another gringo there I didn't see him. Took a pass and saw a couple of girls standing in their doorways half-dressed. After about 5 minutes I saw one who looked nice enough and we went into a small room with a bed, a concealed toilet, and a Sterno fire in the corner. We quickly negotiated S50 and proceeded with as transactional and emotionless a session as I can imagine. She was actually reasonably attractive, gave a decent CBJ, and was cooperative enough, but this was the definition of pump and dump. For an extra S10 she gave me a decent back rub, I got dressed, and when I walked out the door two guys were waiting.

I had no desire to hang around or see more. Five minutes later I was down the hill calling an Uber back to town. Total cost of around $40 and memories for a lifetime.[/QUOTE]So, it's basically a chongo.

[QUOTE=AngmoLover;2973791]So, it's basically a chongo.[/QUOTE]Strike off "basically". It is a chongo.

I'm not sure if this is going to go anywhere, but it's worth a try.

Is there a good primer / summary about mongering in Cusco?

From my research so far, I'm not coming up with much. I've been to the 2 websites listed previously, and my Spanish sucks, and it just comes out weird on Google translate.

I'm aware that Cusco is far from a ideal place for this, so I have tempered my expectations accordingly, but I have 2 nights there in several months, and I'd like to sample the best of what IS available if at all possible. And no, I can't go to Lima. I know it's much better!

In my ideal scenario, I'd book someone to come out to my hotel, but I'm having a hard time finding a good website for this. Seems like they're all pretty sketchy. You don't know what you're getting, or even if they'll follow through on this. Is there a source that's better / more reliable than the others? Any tips? Cost is less of a factor than a predictably good provider.

I'm open to a massage parlor with a happy ending, but this seems pretty rare and unpredictable. Am I right in this?

I know there are some brothels, but for whatever reason I'm not real comfortable with this. Would consider this a last resort personally. But, if I do so, any tips? Do I just show up? Is it safe for gringos?

Have I missed anything? A bar where they hang out? If so, where and is it reasonable safe? How do I identify them? Is it pretty obvious? Will they approach me, or do I need to approach them?

I appreciate any tips you all have, so thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Blucas;2975445]I'm not sure if this is going to go anywhere, but it's worth a try.

Is there a good primer / summary about mongering in Cusco?

From my research so far, I'm not coming up with much. I've been to the 2 websites listed previously, and my Spanish sucks, and it just comes out weird on Google translate.

I'm aware that Cusco is far from a ideal place for this, so I have tempered my expectations accordingly, but I have 2 nights there in several months, and I'd like to sample the best of what IS available if at all possible[/QUOTE]If you're like most people, then your first night will keep you busy catching your breath. That said, my buddy who is older than me didn't feel a thing, so maybe you'll be lucky. To me, though, the first day and night I was just struggling to breeze.

[URL]https://blog.incarail.com/soroche-survival-cusco-elevation-guide[/URL]

Massage women are everywhere in the Centro, and some will offer extra services. Make sure to avoid girls who look too.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2975659]If you're like most people, then your first night will keep you busy catching your breath. That said, my buddy who is older than me didn't feel a thing, so maybe you'll be lucky. To me, though, the first day and night I was just struggling to breeze.

[URL]https://blog.incarail.com/soroche-survival-cusco-elevation-guide[/URL]

Massage women are everywhere in the Centro, and some will offer extra services. Make sure to avoid girls who look too.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the replay and tips. Hard to know how I'll respond to the elevation. I've been to 14 k feet once and did fine, but I drove there, so more gradual. We'll see.

A few more questions:

Your last word got cut off. Make sure to avoid girls who look too. ?? And what should I be concerned about with these girls?

Is it pretty obvious which massage girls offer extras? If so, is it pretty much only a HJ, or do they often offer more? Are many of them willing to go back to a hotel room?

The brothels sound kind of depressing and scary. Am I wrong? Should I reconsider them?

If things are as bad as they sound I'm playing with the idea of changing my flights and spending a night in Lima. I really just want an attractive GFE girl to come back to my room with me, and it sounds increasingly like that's not really an option in Cusco. But it'll be an expensive pain in my ass to change everything, so not sure if it's worth it.

Been in Cusco few days during the last year. The scene is super slow for mongering. However you could just use the "I'm a gringo in Cusco" strategy and hook some bricheras (civilian locals who date gringos). It depends on your skills but you could find very nice girls among the ones making tourism as well. Clubs like Chango will always have bricheras around and Inka Team will have wealthy local seoritas (family girls) having crazy fun with local friends thursdays of Macarena (that's the name of the Thursday parties). Never tried with massage girls from downtown because I don't take anybody lower than 6. Never saw a 7 among the massage girls around main square. Wild Rover hostel has its own bar and daily gringo party. You already know the hostel scene I suppose, you may find bricheras there as well. Won't recomend other bars because drugged guys by bad girls have been reported.

The Santutis chongo, i consider a very depressing waste of time, and time is money. The taxi and entrance can be inexpensive, unless you're planning to produce a National Geographic documentary on sex.

Moving to lima for a couple of days without knowing the scene can be expensive travel move, however a 100% chance to pick at least venies street walkers in Lince or the main malls of south and north Lima. Took 2 for a threesome in lince for US $50 each, but experience was super mechanical, however a very nice view of nude fresh flesh on the bed. One of the girls was on her what's while I was f**ng the second one. She was very pretty, a 7+, and unexpensive so I had nothing to complain.

About the altitude. Well in La Paz Bolivia, back 2010 I did once pick a girl from the bolivian tropico, that's higher than Cusco, the cold made my dick shrink at first LOL. Nothing a good drink and heater at 100% can't fix.

[QUOTE=Blucas;2975765]Thanks for the replay and tips. Hard to know how I'll respond to the elevation. I've been to 14 k feet once and did fine, but I drove there, so more gradual. We'll see.

A few more questions:

Your last word got cut off. Make sure to avoid girls who look too. ?? And what should I be concerned about with these girls?

Is it pretty obvious which massage girls offer extras? If so, is it pretty much only a HJ, or do they often offer more? Are many of them willing to go back to a hotel room?

The brothels sound kind of depressing and scary. Am I wrong? Should I reconsider them?

If things are as bad as they sound I'm playing with the idea of changing my flights and spending a night in Lima. I really just want an attractive GFE girl to come back to my room with me, and it sounds increasingly like that's not really an option in Cusco. But it'll be an expensive pain in my ass to change everything, so not sure if it's worth it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blucas;2975765]Thanks for the replay and tips. Hard to know how I'll respond to the elevation. I've been to 14 k feet once and did fine, but I drove there, so more gradual. We'll see.

A few more questions:

Your last word got cut off. Make sure to avoid girls who look too. ??[/QUOTE]I meant too young. I've seen a few young girls offering massages near Plaza de Armas. It's hard to tell in the dark. I'd err on the side of caution.

[QUOTE=Blucas;2975765]The brothels sound kind of depressing and scary. Am I wrong? Should I reconsider them?

If things are as bad as they sound I'm playing with the idea of changing my flights and spending a night in Lima. I really just want an attractive GFE girl to come back to my room with me, and it sounds increasingly like that's not really an option in Cusco. But it'll be an expensive pain in my ass to change everything, so not sure if it's worth it.[/QUOTE]I've never been to brothels in Cusco because I don't like that kind of fun either. And yes, Cusco didn't feel like a place to find what you're looking for. But I'm also lazy, so I wouldn't change anything and just try my luck with massage ladies.

[QUOTE=Blucas;2975765]. . .

The brothels sound kind of depressing and scary. Am I wrong? Should I reconsider them?

If things are as bad as they sound I'm playing with the idea of changing my flights and spending a night in Lima. I really just want an attractive GFE girl to come back to my room with me, and it sounds increasingly like that's not really an option in Cusco. But it'll be an expensive pain in my ass to change everything, so not sure if it's worth it.[/QUOTE]I can't help you with Cusco, I've never been in Cusco without the missus, but if you plan to invest just one night in Lima, with your (acknowledged) limited Spanish skills, your chances of having a good time at a budget cost are low.

Let's review your alternatives:

1. If what you want is GFE, the dating Apps are the place to look, it's a hit-and-miss scenario but you could be lucky, I'd say it is a 60/40 chance (in your favor). But finding girls in dating Apps is time consuming and your limited Spanish skills are an added hindrance, besides, you could be unlucky and lose not only your money but also your only night in Lima. Still it is an option and the cost will be in the US 65 / US /80 range, although it could get as high as US 120.

2. You can try the ad-sites (photokinesiologas-dot-com, kinestops-dot-com etc.). Chances of hitting pay-dirt are again 60/40, this time against you, assuming you choose among the "verified" girls; your chances go down to 20/80 if you try non verified girls. Your lack of Spanish skills will be a limitation again and, if you really want GFE, ad-sites are not the best place to find that. This includes the girls who work at apartments (which you also find in the ad-sites).

3. You can try the streetwalkers in Lince or in Megaplaza Norte or in Mall del Sur; you'll have the advantage of getting to see the girl and briefly interact with her before deciding but, again, streetwalkers are not renowned for GFE. The cost will be around US 50 (as per [I]HiddenEye[/I]'s report) for about half an hour and you must add around US 15 or 20 for the hostel room and the taxi from your hotel to the streetwalker's zone and back.

4. You can go to Sauna Venice, Ying Yang Spa, Elysium Spa or any of the pseudo massage parlors in Lima, just make sure to check with some local guy so you don't end up in a handjob-only or blowjob-only place. You get to choose your girl from five to ten candidates and have a high chance of geting GFE. The cost (entrance + girl + taxi) will be around US 100. The same goes for the Nightclubs, only the nightclub girl will charge you around US 150 plus entrance fee, exit fee, your consumption in the nightclub and, of course, your taxi.

Now let's examine the last two options, any of which would be my personal recommendation:

5. I know that you just said the brothels were not an option for you but let's not discard them altogether; Lima has a few brothels of a much higher level than any other city in Peru (Las Sirenitas, Las Geishas, Las Cucardas and a couple more) so any previous experience in Cusco brothels is not representative. Forget GFE (unless you are lucky and the girl finds you very attractive) but the price is so ridiculously low that you may end up paying more for the taxi than for the sex: Entrance fee is US 4, a 15 min session is US 10 -maybe US 12 and you have 20 or 30 girls to choose from. You also have a bar where you can have a beer, have a beer with the girl you like, have a beer with several girls if you like, and if you find one (or several ones) attractive, you can go to her room for one, two or three sessions. It is just too cheap.

6. And here is the complete opposite way: Contact [I]Jockey16[/I] and ask him to introduce you to one of his lady friends. A very beautiful English speaking girl will go to your hotel and charge you US 150 or so for, at least, one and a half hours of guaranteed GFE. It looks expensive but let's consider the alternative: [I]HiddenEye[/I] paid two girls US 50 each for, what, Half an hour, maybe one hour of, in his own words, [I]super mechanical[/I] sex? We are talking of US 120 including hostel for a non-threesome (he admits that one girl was chatting in WhatsApp while he was doing the other). I know there are forists here who trash forists like me for paying girls more than a hundred dollars when you can get "the same" for three or four times less money, but it is a matter of convenience. You make the math and decide what option is more convenient for you.

Good luck and, whatever you decide, please report the results here at the forum.

J. J.

To be more accurate it was S /150 each, so US $40 each, plus motel room it ended up around US $55 each because motels charge more for two girls in a threesome. Everything happened in 30 minutes or less, starting in the corner of Av. Arequipa and straight to the motel. US $110 for a quicky threesome with 19-20 y / o girls. Not bad.

There are tons of videos of the scene in YT and tiktok.

[QUOTE=JackJericho;2975982]...

3. You can try the streetwalkers in Lince or in Megaplaza Norte or in Mall del Sur; you'll have the advantage of getting to see the girl and briefly interact with her before deciding but, again, streetwalkers are not renowned for GFE. The cost will be around US 50 (as per [I]HiddenEye[/I]'s report) for about half an hour and you must add around US 15 or 20 for the hostel room and the taxi from your hotel to the streetwalker's zone and back.

6. And here is the complete opposite way: Contact [I]Jockey16[/I] and ask him to introduce you to one of his lady friends. A very beautiful English speaking girl will go to your hotel and charge you US 150 or so for, at least, one and a half hours of guaranteed GFE. It looks expensive but let's consider the alternative: [I]HiddenEye[/I] paid two girls US 50 each for, what, Half an hour, maybe one hour of, in his own words, [I]super mechanical[/I] sex? We are talking of US 120 including hostel for a non-threesome (he admits that one girl was chatting in WhatsApp while he was doing the other). I know there are forists here who trash forists like me for paying girls more than a hundred dollars when you can get "the same" for three or four times less money, but it is a matter of convenience. You make the math and decide what option is more convenient for you.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JackJericho;2975982]I can't help you with Cusco, I've never been in Cusco without the missus, but if you plan to invest just one night in Lima, with your (acknowledged) limited Spanish skills, your chances of having a good time at a budget cost are low.

Let's review your alternatives:

1. If what you want is GFE, the dating Apps are the place to look, it's a hit-and-miss scenario but you could be lucky, I'd say it is a 60/40 chance (in your favor). But finding girls in dating Apps is time consuming and your limited Spanish skills are an added hindrance, besides, you could be unlucky and lose not only your money but also your only night in Lima. Still it is an option and the cost will be in the US 65 / US /80 range, although it could get as high as US 120.

2. You can try the ad-sites (photokinesiologas-dot-com, kinestops-dot-com etc.). Chances of hitting pay-dirt are again 60/40, this time against you, assuming you choose among the "verified" girls; your chances go down to 20/80 if you try non verified girls. Your lack of Spanish skills will be a limitation again and, if you really want GFE, ad-sites are not the best place to find that. This includes the girls who work at apartments (which you also find in the ad-sites).

3. You can try the streetwalkers in Lince or in Megaplaza Norte or in Mall del Sur; you'll have the advantage of getting to see the girl and briefly interact with her before deciding but, again, streetwalkers are not renowned for GFE. The cost will be around US 50 (as per [I]HiddenEye[/I]'s report) for about half an hour and you must add around US 15 or 20 for the hostel room and the taxi from your hotel to the streetwalker's zone and back.

4. You can go to Sauna Venice, Ying Yang Spa, Elysium Spa or any of the pseudo massage parlors in Lima, just make sure to check with some local guy so you don't end up in a handjob-only or blowjob-only place. You get to choose your girl from five to ten candidates and have a high chance of geting GFE. The cost (entrance + girl + taxi) will be around US 100. The same goes for the Nightclubs, only the nightclub girl will charge you around US 150 plus entrance fee, exit fee, your consumption in the nightclub and, of course, your taxi.

Now let's examine the last two options, any of which would be my personal recommendation:

5. I know that you just said the brothels were not an option for you but let's not discard them altogether; Lima has a few brothels of a much higher level than any other city in Peru (Las Sirenitas, Las Geishas, Las Cucardas and a couple more) so any previous experience in Cusco brothels is not representative. Forget GFE (unless you are lucky and the girl finds you very attractive) but the price is so ridiculously low that you may end up paying more for the taxi than for the sex: Entrance fee is US 4, a 15 min session is US 10 -maybe US 12 and you have 20 or 30 girls to choose from. You also have a bar where you can have a beer, have a beer with the girl you like, have a beer with several girls if you like, and if you find one (or several ones) attractive, you can go to her room for one, two or three sessions. It is just too cheap.

6. And here is the complete opposite way: Contact [I]Jockey16[/I] and ask him to introduce you to one of his lady friends. A very beautiful English speaking girl will go to your hotel and charge you US 150 or so for, at least, one and a half hours of guaranteed GFE. It looks expensive but let's consider the alternative: [I]HiddenEye[/I] paid two girls US 50 each for, what, Half an hour, maybe one hour of, in his own words, [I]super mechanical[/I] sex? We are talking of US 120 including hostel for a non-threesome (he admits that one girl was chatting in WhatsApp while he was doing the other). I know there are forists here who trash forists like me for paying girls more than a hundred dollars when you can get "the same" for three or four times less money, but it is a matter of convenience. You make the math and decide what option is more convenient for you.

Good luck and, whatever you decide, please report the results here at the forum.

J. J.[/QUOTE]Can't tell you how much I appreciate everyone's input here.

Jack. I like how you think! I went through a similar breakdown in my mind as to my options, pros / cons, etc. , just with a lot less information.

I should have been clearer. I'm not concerned about the cost. As you noted, I'll only be there one night, so I can't afford a fuck up. Compared to what I have to pay in my area, even the most expensive options in Lima are nothing. I will happily pay for the predictability of knowing that it's very likely I'll be getting what I want.

So, I came to the same conclusion as your option 6 - contact Jockey. JayWonEm's experience, sadly with only 1 night, is what I'm looking for. Geisha Academy is my 2nd choice, but I feel like with Jockey I'll have a much better idea of what I'm getting. Anyone know much about them? Next step is to get a crypto wallet and pay for membership here.

My trip isn't until July (Yes, I'm an overplanner! So my trip report won't be for a while.

Thanks again. Appreciate you all.

I sent a similar post many hours ago. Or at least I thought I did. I'm wondering if I never hit send. So, if this ends up being a double post, I apologize.

JJ. I like how you think! I went through the same options and pros / cons in my head, just with a lot less information.

One thing I should have mentioned is that cost is not really an issue. As you said, I'm there for only 1 night, so I can't take the chance of things getting fucked up. I'm willing to pay for predictability. Not to mention, compared to what I have to pay in my area, even the most expensive options in Peru are a bargain for me.

So, I came to the conclusion that your option 6 - working with Jockey. Is my best option. I'm in the process of getting a paid account, so you'll be hearing from me soon Jockey My backup plan would be to go with Geishas Academy. Feels like it would be pretty reliable, though I think it'll be harder to know in advance if I'm going to be getting what I want. Does anyone have experience with Geishas? Basically, I want something like what JayWonEm had, but for 1 night. Sounds perfect.

As for a report, you'll get it. But my trip isn't until July (Yes, I tend to over plan! So it won't be for a while.

Thanks again everyone. Appreciate you.

[QUOTE=JackJericho;2975982]I can't help you with Cusco, I've never been in Cusco without the missus, but if you plan to invest just one night in Lima, with your (acknowledged) limited Spanish skills, your chances of having a good time at a budget cost are low.

Let's review your alternatives:

1. If what you want is GFE, the dating Apps are the place to look, it's a hit-and-miss scenario but you could be lucky, I'd say it is a 60/40 chance (in your favor). But finding girls in dating Apps is time consuming and your limited Spanish skills are an added hindrance, besides, you could be unlucky and lose not only your money but also your only night in Lima. Still it is an option and the cost will be in the US 65 / US /80 range, although it could get as high as US 120.

2. You can try the ad-sites (photokinesiologas-dot-com, kinestops-dot-com etc.). Chances of hitting pay-dirt are again 60/40, this time against you, assuming you choose among the "verified" girls; your chances go down to 20/80 if you try non verified girls. Your lack of Spanish skills will be a limitation again and, if you really want GFE, ad-sites are not the best place to find that. This includes the girls who work at apartments (which you also find in the ad-sites).

3. You can try the streetwalkers in Lince or in Megaplaza Norte or in Mall del Sur; you'll have the advantage of getting to see the girl and briefly interact with her before deciding but, again, streetwalkers are not renowned for GFE. The cost will be around US 50 (as per [I]HiddenEye[/I]'s report) for about half an hour and you must add around US 15 or 20 for the hostel room and the taxi from your hotel to the streetwalker's zone and back.

4. You can go to Sauna Venice, Ying Yang Spa, Elysium Spa or any of the pseudo massage parlors in Lima, just make sure to check with some local guy so you don't end up in a handjob-only or blowjob-only place. You get to choose your girl from five to ten candidates and have a high chance of geting GFE. The cost (entrance + girl + taxi) will be around US 100. The same goes for the Nightclubs, only the nightclub girl will charge you around US 150 plus entrance fee, exit fee, your consumption in the nightclub and, of course, your taxi.

Now let's examine the last two options, any of which would be my personal recommendation:

5. I know that you just said the brothels were not an option for you but let's not discard them altogether; Lima has a few brothels of a much higher level than any other city in Peru (Las Sirenitas, Las Geishas, Las Cucardas and a couple more) so any previous experience in Cusco brothels is not representative. Forget GFE (unless you are lucky and the girl finds you very attractive) but the price is so ridiculously low that you may end up paying more for the taxi than for the sex: Entrance fee is US 4, a 15 min session is US 10 -maybe US 12 and you have 20 or 30 girls to choose from. You also have a bar where you can have a beer, have a beer with the girl you like, have a beer with several girls if you like, and if you find one (or several ones) attractive, you can go to her room for one, two or three sessions. It is just too cheap.

6. And here is the complete opposite way: Contact [I]Jockey16[/I] and ask him to introduce you to one of his lady friends. A very beautiful English speaking girl will go to your hotel and charge you US 150 or so for, at least, one and a half hours of guaranteed GFE. It looks expensive but let's consider the alternative: [I]HiddenEye[/I] paid two girls US 50 each for, what, Half an hour, maybe one hour of, in his own words, [I]super mechanical[/I] sex? We are talking of US 120 including hostel for a non-threesome (he admits that one girl was chatting in WhatsApp while he was doing the other). I know there are forists here who trash forists like me for paying girls more than a hundred dollars when you can get "the same" for three or four times less money, but it is a matter of convenience. You make the math and decide what option is more convenient for you.

Good luck and, whatever you decide, please report the results here at the forum.

J. J.[/QUOTE]

Portal Belen. Triumfo - Herrajes all near the main square and the Cathedral mainly after hours to sunset when there is no rain, girls offer 'massages' 20 soles per each girl for 30 minutes nearby. Up to two dozen girls, a few are reasonable. Asked many what does it include, and the answer is 'oil'. Not even one hinted on any other service. Many admitted to be too young. All in the plain sight of LE the last thing you need is to solicit them. Of course, maybe someone has different experience.

[QUOTE=Questner;2984906]Portal Belen. Triumfo - Herrajes all near the main square and the Cathedral mainly after hours to sunset when there is no rain, girls offer 'massages' 20 soles per each girl for 30 minutes nearby. Up to two dozen girls, a few are reasonable. Asked many what does it include, and the answer is 'oil'. Not even one hinted on any other service. Many admitted to be too young. All in the plain sight of LE the last thing you need is to solicit them. Of course, maybe someone has different experience.[/QUOTE]Portal Belen. I take it that this is the main square.

Triumfo. Herrajes, are they streets or hotels?

LE?