Caracas

Catire-Barranquilla/Bogota, I've never been on a second date in either city where I haven't gotten laid. I been to Charlotte in Bogota and hooked up as well. THere no question that these girls are more uptight that Colombiana, but I am that more intrigued with the place, the prudishness of the girls and see myself coming back with some frequency as I feel there is alot of unfinished business here.

Day 3

Started very late for me as i got back to the hotel after sex and arapas, which are damn good in Caracas. I have 2 dates set up today with 1 amigos.com girl and 1 latinamor girl. I was feeling that a 1 on 1 date might produce better results than just trying to hook up randomly at a club. Also i was able to slip in a hour fuck with Giselle from Caracas playboy in between, she was an alternate for Vanessa from sexycaracas.com who came by the hotel by did not pass inspection physically and the my initial impression was not good as she was wearing a serious frown on her face. I said no gracious gave her 20,000 for her taxi and we went out seperate ways. I did not want to do this but this girl i would not have sex with here in NY for free, therefore I cannot see myself paying for this one. Actually I DO NOT recommend anyone use this girl, you just have to trust my judgement on this one.

I was horny by this time and called for Samantha Thomas from caracas playboy and she was not available and i called Jade about 50 times this week and always the voicemail, Fabiana was also not picking up her phone. Caracas playboy finally sent Giselle Lauren who was available. I would have to say that I was not particually impressed, decent body, somewhat cute face, but braces but her attitude was very cheerful and I was quite horny by that time so i just did it. And actually i would say her performance was not too shabby at all and she got really wet and into things as well so it good to see. Instead of cab fare she asked for my Pink Floyd Wish you were there CD. SHe is not a bad option for anyone to choose just based on her great attitude. Interesting enough i see her later in the date with her boyfriend at the Sambil.

Third date of the date of the day with with a high school mallrat name Maria, we were to meet at the Sambil and catch a movie. Talking on the phone with her made me very disgusted as she spent a bit too much time bragging about her rich father and who complained that Chavez's economic policies are screwing her family up so much that they can't go clothes shopping in the US and Europe anymore. In a country where the majority of the people have no decent clothes its very hard to feel simpathy for this type of person. You almost feel glad that Chavez is screwing her families' precious shopping trips. I look past this and agree to meet her at the Sambil anyways because from the looks of her picture she is very attractive. As I am walking around the Sambil to the spot we were to meet I just suddenly change my mind and turn around. I am just too old for this girl i decide and she is way too immature to even hang out with. I guess she was a bit pissed off that i flaked because we were to meet the next day at Valle Arriba and she didnt show either. Don't ask, I'm just very fickle, Sunday I was alone during the day so I wanted to she her.

THat night had all the makings of a good one as I met Danielle at San Ignacio and it got pretty hot and heavy on the dance floor and we fooled around a bit but also this night ended up at Angelus, see the pics of the big ass girl below, she definately top 5 there. OF the 150 girls at Angelus only 5 are really hot, 10-15 ok and the rest are not fuckable.

ANother matter if you have a tri-band phone just buy a sim card here for $20 and you receive cell calls for free. My blackberry was not getting mail here but i'm told this is possible to adjust too.

This is one girl from Latinamor that i did not have time to meet. She speak very very little English so its going to take someone with a big of Spanish skills to meet her. I have her email and telephone number, for those who ARE going to Caracas soon, let me know and I will give you the info. Something tells me she is less of a good girl than the other girls i met.

Robhay, very interesting characterization of Colombianas vs Venezolanas.

I suspect most people would take issue with you but you have to go by your own personal experiences. Perhaps your statistical sample is too small, leading to the "aberration".

Venezolanas, especially Caraquenas, are said to be far more aggresive and bold than their Colombiana counterparts.

Rob,
Great report, and thanks for the pictures.
Would love to get ahold of that thick one from Angelus :-)

if you like them that "thick" then you can get one like that for one third (or less) of the Angelus price. (though I write that not knowing what the face looked like)

I know girls that started out working the Calle de los Hoteles that later made their way to Angelus,as they were told/realized they could quadruple plus their earnings, if they merely started to look more "glamorous".

A Calle girl I once met in Morrison's somehow tried to convince me (after I pointed out the ridiculousness of this reasoning) that because at Morrison's she gets her hair done every couple of days and wears a very nice dress, nicer clothes, more makup, etc

that her company has suddendly become worth triple plus of what it used to be worth.

She really believed it.

I, unfortunately, did not.

Forgive my spelling and grammer, I just read my posts and I should have spell checked it first.

Shadow- You would like her, the name is Kathuska. The first thing i look at in judging a girl is her face and this one has the face of an angel. Watch out for her older sister though, she also works at Angelus and has the face of a *****, and will bother you to death. Other than her the top girl has orange-blond hair, tall, and 2 tatoos on her ass, I forget her name but she is an amazing fuck.

Catire- I would to an agree with the fact that non pro Venezuelan girls are more aggressive in the fact they will initial contact in the clubs whereas in Colombia I felt like i had to talk to a girl first but, from my limited experience I feel that Venezuelan girls are not even looking to hookup that night, I don't feel its true with Colombians.

I won't bore you people with the details of Day 4 as they sound very much like day 2 and 3.

In conclusion, Caracas IS NOT a place to go mongering. I WOULD NOT recommend someone go to Caracas for the sole purpose of mongering. Based on what i look for in a mongering destination Caracas is not an ideal location.

First the working girls are not even comparable to the best looking girls in the city. In Cuba, ALL the best looking girls are available. Also in Rio, at the least there are working girls comparable to the best looking non pros you would find in the discos.

In Caracas the working girls are not even close in physical apperance to the non pros hanging out in San Ignacio, maybe Fabiana, but even she is a step below the hotties in SI. The prices here do not justify the talent. After hearing from many monger they have a bit of an attittude and proformance may not be up to expectations, I was very pleasantly surprise by the attitudes of the girls i did fuck. All of them would go as far as I wanted to go with them in terms of gfe, bbbj, ect., but I'm sure all this is subjective from monger to monger.

Secondly for essentially the same looking girls in Bogota you will pay no more than 1/2.

Caracas and Bogota are very similiar I would say in the looks of the women expect I found Bogota to be more "white" and women in Caracas to have more of the indian mix, at least that is what i saw in San Ignacio. ALong the coast of Colombia you will find more of the African influence. I can't remember seeing more than 5 black people my whole trip to Caracas, and they all worked at the hotel. Personally I prefer a bit more mixture of races. So if what your looking for is a wider selection than Colombia is a more viable option.

But as Zippy said before and I agree 100% Caracas is a GREAT place for non pro action. Provided that you have the time, the women here are absolutely the best. I just feel in love with the place, the people and especially the women. I just thought they were the nicest people, but then again coming from NYC, anyone would seem nice compared to my people. I have recommend this place to some of my older friends looking to maybe settle down as I think this place is an ideal place to find someone, provided one is willing to put in the time, which it takes in Caracas

I think their Colombian sisters are just too easy of a lay and I wouldn't trust someone I could fuck so easily. YOu can date alot of nice good looking girls in Caracas. There is alot of shit i have to take care of in the states or I'd go back next weekend! But seriously I can't wait to get back to Caracas, I'm already trying to plan the next one but I will have to stay for a longer period or else its not really worth it for my point of view.

I have been viewing this board for a few years and using alot of peoples tip. I've been pretty selfish in keeping pics and info to myself, and in return have taken alot of heat for it so this pretty comprehensive report should more than make up for the lack of info i have provided in the past.

Oh I forgot to add another thing that Caracas has over Bogota is that the weather is ideal. Bogota just gets way too cold at night.

Catire and I have had this debate before, but I agree with Rob Hay. non-pro Venezolanas (especially Caraquenas), in general, are WAY MORE uptight than most non-pro Colombianas that I've come across.

In fact, I've never heard anyone (besides Catire) mention that they think Colombianas are more conservative in regards to sex as compared to Venezolanas....

I never meant to imply that Venezuelans were uptight. I meant to say that they are just not used to the whole "Sex in the City" thing.

Actually most Venezuelans I hung out with all said something similar in regards to the conservative nature of Venezuelan girls in regards to sex. They just said it is not in their culture to hook up with random guys whenever the meet them. But if Catire is hooking up with that frequency in Caracas, more power to him.

Prior to actually going to Caracas I read quite alot about Venezuelans and how much attitude they have, so much so that i was really turned off by the whole cultures.

BUt I think Venezuelans get a bum rap for being stuck up. The whole thing with Chavez and the strike has affected this country alot more than i would have ever thought. More than a few people told me stories about how their lives have drastically changed in the last couple of years, and they all sound the same. One girls told me how her familiy went to fairly weathly with apartments all over the city to never having recovered from the strike and being saddled with debt. Maybe its just that being from New YOrk i am dealing with people everyday with huge egos and my tolerance for attitude is just way too high, but I can honestly say that I did not one person in Venezuela that wasn't downright humble!

I think anyone who goes to Caracas will find that these people think we're the cocky ones.

I really miss Caracas and i think i'm going back in November but not before i try to slip in a trip to Medellin this month. Be sure to get in touch with local monger BE THERE , he was very helpful in guiding me around the city and giving me advise. Too bad i didn't listen to him in regards to hanging out around the Hilton Hotel area.

rob hay,

point of clarification - i didn't mean to say that non-pro venezolanas are uptight in general. i meant in regards to the speed at which they "give it up" (and actually, this is limited to the city of caracas, much better success in the smaller towns). that is to say, in my experience, they are much more uptight about giving it up as compared to their hermanas colombianas (with the exception of chicas in medellin).

by the way, i have never found venezuelans (even caraquenos) stuck-up at all. in fact, i've always found them quite friendly and accomodating.

if you want to get a "better" feel about "real" venezuela, you need to get out of caracas- caracas is not indicative of the rest of the country. hardly anyone explores the rest of venezuela and i can guarantee you that there are gems to be found in the smaller towns and pueblitos.

good reports, though. they seem to reinforce what most have said about caracas- good place for non-pro experiences if you have the time, mediocre p4p destination.

I'll have to agree with you guys ... lately I've been in Venezuela a lot, sharing time between between Caracas and Maracaibo.

I find the people of Caracas to be very nice in general ... I keep coming back not for the PFP (which Zippy said is much better in Colombia), but for the normal chicas I've met.
I enjoy sampling the daytime PFP too while my friends are in school or working ... some gems can be found in some of these studios around town ... as a matter of fact, I've met some pretty cool chicas that work in these studios and have taken them out on "real dates" ... they do appreciate being treated like that (with respect) and the rewards are great.

The one thing I find about Caracas is the street crime ... after an attemted mugging on me a few weeks back, I do find myself "checking six" a lot.
It seems like these "muggers" are a bit more organized than what I'm used to in Medellin for example.
It seems these "bands of muchachos" scout for prey and pounce in a quick, concerted mugging on the unexpecting.
Caracas is a fantastic place ... just be cautious and smart ...
Sorry to get off the subject ... just wanted to throw that caution out there.

In Maracaibo I find a whole different attitude from the people.
Still very nice, just like in Caracas but more laid back for sure.
It has more of that "coastal town" feel to it ... sort of like Barranquilla, Colombia.
The chicas are definitely less sophisticated / complicated ... I've found them to be very very friendly.
The drawback of Maracaibo is ... it's hotter than hot in the day and the Spanish spoken there is "muy Carribean" ... much more difficult to understand ... for me at least, though I am getting accustomed to it a bit.
... and, of course, Maracaibo, because it's much less populated than Caracas ... does not have the massive amounts of beautiful chicas walking about like in Caracas. There are definitely hot chicas, just not the amount.

If P4P is not that great, what is there to do if someone wants both entertainment in the evenings as well as the usual tourist activities in the day time ? Does Isla Margarita satisfy both requirements ?

ZIppy and RIcker,

I think that I should take your both your advise and try out some other areas of Venezuela as well just to get a better idea of the place.

I was thinking of Valencia as a possible option until i read this quote from an old report describing the scene in Valencia written by Zippy which i found hilarious, "Old, hard-core, chain-smoking, whisky-drinking or just plain fat mujeres sitting around dreaming of days gone by when they were young, thin, and pretty." Yikes, i can totally picture that in my head and its quite a scary thought.

Maybe Maracaibo is a viable option. How is the street crime there?. I see Maracaibo as a place where you definately have to look for the gems but could be a very rewarding as well.

I'm glad that this board is heating up a bit with more info and posters. FOr a while it was pretty dead. But most die hard Brazil, Costa Rica, Cuba or Colombia mongers I've talked to won't even consider coming to a place like Caracas, so it still does not appeal to the hardcore monger

But what it lacks in the p4p scene it more than makes up in non pro action.

JackDaniels, there is more than enough touristy and cultural crap to keep you occupied in the day and enough nightlife to keep you busy at night in Caracas. From what i hear Margarita is costly and lacks in both p4p and non pro

Rob:

Thanks for the updates.

Can you tell me which days are good at Loft/Vintage?
Is it just the weekend?

Does any one know if Mazara in Tower KPMG is good and where it is. I think it is in La Castellena area?

Also a place called Le Club in Ing Bank where ever that is.

So Dadi Latino is out of favour, shall miss that one.

Is Alcatraz a good bet still.

In general what times do clubs there get busy and thin out.
Could I go to say loft, then later head over to Alcatraz or Studio 54 and still get in?

Any one else around from 4-11 November?

to quote Rob Hay

""But most die hard Brazil, Costa Rica, Cuba or Colombia mongers I've talked to won't even consider coming to a place like Caracas, so it still does not appeal to the hardcore monger ""


this is a good thing, because if it did, then P4P in Caracas would lose whatever charm it might have.

it's hard enough to draw the CCS working girl out of her shell as a working girl and her very "commercial" environment as it is, without hordes of "hard core mongers" running around.

In fact, one of the absolutely best things about Caracas is its current scarcity of gringos in every aspect of its everyday life. It wasn't always like this.

travelmen

club popularity in Caracas is akin to Manhattan or South Beach. What's hot today might not be that hot within a couple of months.
that's something you'll have to ascertain once on the ground.

as to when clubs "get busy"? Generally speaking - LATE! though this depends on the club/clientele. The good places probably peak around 1 am and keep going until 6- 8 in the morning.

then there's always the afterhours :)