Tallinn

apparently they have moved to

tartu mnt 51-26.

tiger.

Hi,

You can call +3725057173.

I paid 600 EEK for 4 pills and I felt like 20 again.


Kentmanni

well these guys used to be the original pronski 11/7 apartment and then moved to mere pst 8 - i know them quite well and they have always charged me 500/hr - but now i have my favourite girl there and they happyily deliver her to my apartment. she was telling me the other night that they had moved to tartu mnt now - but haven't had a chance to check it out yet.

btw getting very pissed off with the quality and service of the birds here - all the home delivery numbers bring at max (looking wise) 5-6/10 girls who are not really very interested. went to the red club on sat night late - got a session for 700 (as opposed to normal 1200), but again girl was uninterested and didn't want to be there. its shithouse, cause i have just had a month in russian and latvia - and every single girl was very energentic and made sure you enjoyed yourself thoroughly!

also haven't been very impressed with
[url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/oppilaat_nayta_k.php?lang_so=eng&land=EST&city=Tallinn[/url]

i have tried to call the love club many times ([url]http://www.redescort.com;[/url] +372 55 96 11 61) keep getting some guy on the phone who doesn't want to help.

what we need in tallinn/estonia is a page like

[url]http://zna.ru/[/url]

[url]http://www.escort.cz/v03/main.php?Lng=2&Edn=2&Sch=2[/url]

http://www.intimservis.lv/si/$en

where we can see the girls, get contact details (by email too), see photos and have the ability to send feedback about the girls for others to view.

tiger...

[url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/oppilas_tiedot.php?lang_so=eng&n=Kelly3&i=etukuva.jpg&city=Tallinn&land=EST[/url]

Not the least expensive, but well worth a call, especially if you want a little more than a quick jump!

She is busy, so it is worth calling before you arrive, if you are coming on a short trip.

BTW, the girls from redescort are all on [url]www.sihteeriopisto.net[/url], but not vice versa.

Viagra and Cialis are not available as OTC here. At least they should not be. WHy not go to the doctor and get a script?

dusty - so whats the best way to contact redescort? the guy on the phone (from the number provided) has been fair from responsive to my queries - maybe i shouldn't be asking in russain?

tiger

I hade a good experience from Narva mnt 14. Call +372 580 68 380. Ask for Katherine.

Pleace let me know if you like it.

Visitor

Ah, I see the problem, they use the same number on Secretary Academy and Red Wscort.

Well in that case, I guess they do not deserve your business...

I hade a nice experiense at Narva mnt 14. Call +372 580 68 380 and ask for Katherine. Price 600 EEK.

If you like it please let me know.

Visitor

Here is an alternative link to the Love Club, which I guess from the number given by Tiger8888 also goes by the name Red Escort:

[url]http://www.zone.ee/loveclub/esileht.htm[/url]

This place is also the Tuukri 26 hostel. My experience is mixed here. I had a really good time with a younger blond (can't remember the name, sorry) and a good time spoiled with a busty brunette named Marina. She gave great oral, but had some stank issues down below. I agree with the comments about the phone line. Service is less than helpful.

spot on guest - she was excellent...

tiger

Hey guys,

In Sunday's Observer (UK) there is a pretty big article about the influx of HIV into Estonia. According to the article, 1% of the population is HIV positive, which makes Estonia second only to Russia in percentage infected in the former USSR. The article goes on to say that the three reasons are promiscuity, drug use and poor government funding and communications.

Put that all together, and you've basically got the Russian population, who get the short end of the stick on all three of those. Since they make up the majority of the sex industry in Estonia, use 96% of the illicit drugs, and make up a third of the population, it would not be that much of a stretch to guess that the infection rate among Russians in Estonia is upwards of 3%.

Here's the article:

[url]http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1356052,00.html[/url]


AIDS GRIPS THE STAG PARTY'S FAVOURITE CITY

Teenage girls at most risk in Estonia's capital, Tallinn, as infection rates soar and cash for treatment stays scarce

Nick Paton Walsh in Tallinn
Sunday November 21, 2004

The Observer
A heroin user for most of his twenties, Yuri, 28, had been in prison for car theft near Tallinn, the capital of Estonia, for a year. When he came out he stayed clean, but only for six months. Then last week his life was torn apart when he found out he was HIV positive. He has yet to break the news to his 19-year-old girlfriend, Olga, with whom he has been having regular unprotected sex.

'I don't know how even to tell her about this,' Yuri told a health worker. 'I can't even go there.' He was shocked, because only one of the three other people he shared a drug spoon with was HIV positive, and this man always took his shot from the spoon last and they used different needles.

Yuri, who asked for his real name to be changed, has become a statistic in a health crisis that is threatening to envelop one of the European Union's newest members, a tiny Baltic state that became the EU's easternmost border last May. Estonia saw a massive rise in new HIV infections in 2000. Now an estimated 1 per cent of its 1.4 million population are HIV positive, one of the the highest rates in Europe.

Cheap flights and cheap alcohol bring thousands of holidaymakers and stag parties to Tallinn, a quaint city of cobbled streets which in the summer is full of young British men, now notorious here for their 'booze cruises'. This leads to a sexually charged atmosphere which may prove a key danger in the spread of the disease.

Nelli Kalikova, an MP and the former head of the city's anti-Aids centre, said the key problem in the next four years would be a spread of the virus among the heterosexual population.

The crisis has serious economic implications, not only for Estonia's tourism industry. Experts fear a strain on the economy in future as the country battles to treat an infected working population.

The number of new cases rose suddenly in 2000, although the rate has now slowed. But a different threat has emerged. The greatest rise in new cases is among young women aged between 15 and 19 - a trend ascribed by experts mainly to a young, sexually active population having unprotected sex.

They warn that those 15- to 24-year-olds who are newly infected now will, in 15 years' time, be Estonia's breadwinners. A government report last week warned last week that 2.3 per cent could be wiped off the country's economic worth by 2008.

Some say HIV-positive Estonians may use their visa privileges in the EU under the Schengen Convention - signed by Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Germany, Portugal and Spain , but not Britain - to seek better medical care in richer countries.

Ahead of World Aids Day next week, critics accuse the Estonian government of doing too little. Estonia ranks second in the former Soviet countries, behind Russia, for the highest number of newly reported HIV infections. But the entire government budget for Aids prevention and treatment is 10 million kroni a year - less than £500,000.

Irina Moroz, a doctor at an Aids centre in Tallinn, said: 'I was in Finland last week at a treatment centre with a budget of €3 million (£2.1m). That's nearly four times our entire national budget.'

Estonia's programmes are now subsidised by £6m from the Global Aids Fund, money not guaranteed for the future. The government, which critics say did virtually nothing from 1996 to 2002 while the disease was spreading, admits it must move fast to catch up.

Anneli Tall, its HIV/Aids specialist, admitted: 'We did not put enough effort in when HIV was among the risk groups like drug users.'

The priority now was to push the anti-Aids message in the education and health systems and the military.

Some HIV-positive Estonians are already looking overseas. 'Some of my patients are actively talking about going abroad to get better treatment,' said Moroz. 'These are women studying to be doctors or engineers, the skilled population of tomorrow.'

Julia, 34, who contracted HIV from a married man in August 2002, said: 'I do not know what the state is doing to help me as I have seen nothing.' She has a full-time job which gives her medical insurance that will pay for her drugs when she falls ill. 'I have not told my family about this [disease].

'Only three close friends know I am positive. I will tell my son, but only in the last few minutes of my life.'

In the streets and pubs of Tallinn the young tourists and locals show little knowledge of the prevalence of a virus that has Julia and so many others in its grip.

Monika Haartman, 22, an Estonian student sitting in the Scotland Yard pub last week, said: 'When it comes to HIV, most people always think that it's never going to happen to them.'

Dave Ford, 22, a sales rep from Kidderminster, walking down the main street on Friday afternoon, said: 'It was £40 on Easyjet to get here, the room's £20 and the women are gorgeous. One of our mates has pulled, but we're just mostly getting hammered.'

Yet Estonia's HIV crisis will not always remain out of sight. MP Kalikova said the HIV positive people 'are until now healthy and the problem remains invisible. You don't see someone dying of Aids every day. But that time will come soon.'

Play safe guys,

Shiva

The rate of discovery of new cases did tail off after 2001! What they did not say was that there has been little new infection since then.

The actual infection rate for HIV is actually 0.23% of the population. (as at 31st March 2003)

All other figures are confabulations based upon 'estimates' made assuming that the rate of discovery of infections would continue at the same rate as it did in 1999/2000, a time when there was a concerted effort, funded by WHO and the EU to uncover HIV in the population.

[url]http://www.afew.org/english/statistics/estonia.htm[/url]

Whilst nobody suggests that unprotected sex is a good thing, the decrease in the incidence of other STDs is a decent indicator that sexual transmission of HIV is not a huge issue, except for those whose incomes and livelihoods depend upon a growing HIV problem. It should be remembered that money received to deal with HIV/AIDS that is spent upon health care support for these people almost always has a positive impact on the health care service as a whole, in the recipient country. For this reason, there is a vested interest in maximising the appearance of HIV for which there is abundant 'free' money.
The same situation can be seen in Russia where HIV funding supports TB care. There is no doubt about the incidence of TB, the target groups are coincident and so money for one purpose goes to support another.

There is little risk of a sensible punter picking up HIV on a trip to Tallinn.

Hi guys,

I am going to Tallinn early next year and would like some good advice on clubs to vist in town.

Thanks,

Dave London

I had to go all the way back to fucking August to find any posts on prices and women. The more recent posts were the best. Thanks guys.

Then I read the posts further back on Italians and minority men. Dude, whoever is writing these posts writes like a fucking Mexican. Don't you know how to speak English if you are going to represent the blonde race.

Yes, it is sad that the fucking Britons ruined the local women and the alcoholic Finnish has imbued the local women with a sense of Western women attitude. But you are a still a fucking third world country. Maybe it is not obvious as Thailand, but everything is still for sale when you can "sponsor" a piece of ass from a college student at a university in Estonia.

The issue is that when you travel for 10 days, it is hard to (1) first find and (2) then develop a relationship with a non pro to get that piece of ass. Attitude or no attidude, white women who need money to pay their bills will still suck your dick. It just takes longer and you may have to kiss their ass and speak their language. I would suggest starting an email relationship before you visit the *****. Or just avoid the hassle altogether and go to Moscow.

As far as your discussion on politics and races, dude, you guys can't even write English fluently, and I am not even white. Are you guys, fucking Germans or someting? Because you write like Mexicans and talk like degos.

So how do Estonian non-pro women react to Asian, Latino, and Black men in general?

And what % of them speak English? They seem to be some of the hottest women around.